I've been a Christian for several decades now and have read/listened to the Holy Bible several times. When I have read it I've been puzzled with what
the "Abomination of Desolation" as talked about in Revelation is really all about. In my sight it is 1) abomination (very evil and 2) brings desolation exreme poverty in many forms)... so I've been thinking what might fit that criteria. Here's what I'm thinking.

It is probably something Evil of the highest order... what might that be?
Well I'm thinking that its probably some sort of machine fashioned after the Beast (the anti-christ). It would be something that encourages people to blaspheme the Holy Spirit and reward people with the coveted Mark of the
Beast. Basically people would be trading their souls for prosperity. By blaspheming the Holy Spirit people are damned eternally, with no forgiveness. Only something that Evil would really fit the bill. So I'm imagining
something like an interactive obilesk that forces people to blaspheme the
Holy Spirit or die, and for those that blaspheme in this way would be living the high life (until they realized that they've given up any chance of being saved).

So, some points to ponder:
1) Don't blaspheme the Holy Spirit: There is no going back
2) Don't receive the Mark of the Beast, the number 666 (the number of the Beast), or his symbol
3) Don't hate on God, you life is in His hands
4) Read the Holy Bible, knowledge is power.

I hope these thoughts find you well.
Best regards,
warmfuzzy

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Hey Warmfuzzy,

So, some points to ponder:
1) Don't blaspheme the Holy Spirit: There is no going back
2) Don't receive the Mark of the Beast, the number 666 (the number of the Beast), or his symbol
3) Don't hate on God, you life is in His hands
4) Read the Holy Bible, knowledge is power.

Good points. But for point 2: How do we identify the mark of the beast?
It could be a multitude of things. For instance:
- cashless society (central monetary system)
- the internet (especially <social> media, fueling hatespeech)
- pushmessages 24/7 (related mostly to internet, okay;))
- The forming of the European Union
- Wokeism
- ... and many more

Is it a matter of avoiding things like this when recognized? Or will it be very obvious and in plain sight, the mark? I really wonder. Personally I think the mark is put on each gradually, or attempts to put it on. And it is done
by throwing more and more diversions at us (push messaging).
Also, the forming of the EU worries me, centralizing more power in Brussels
to unchosen people in power.

What is your view?

Regards,

Onky

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1) Don't blaspheme the Holy Spirit: There is no going back
2) Don't receive the Mark of the Beast, the number 666 (the number of Beast), or his symbol
3) Don't hate on God, you life is in His hands
4) Read the Holy Bible, knowledge is power.

Good points. But for point 2: How do we identify the mark of the beast?
It could be a multitude of things. For instance:
- cashless society (central monetary system)
- the internet (especially <social> media, fueling hatespeech)
- pushmessages 24/7 (related mostly to internet, okay;))
- The forming of the European Union
- Wokeism
- ... and many more
Is it a matter of avoiding things like this when recognized? Or will it
be very obvious and in plain sight, the mark? I really wonder.
Personally I think the mark is put on each gradually, or attempts to put it on. And it is done by throwing more and more diversions at us (push messaging). Also, the forming of the EU worries me, centralizing more power in Brussels to unchosen people in power.
What is your view?

My oppinion is that the warning of the mark of the beast, points to the roman ruler Nero. In Judiasem (which the prophet Yochanan was not 'Christian' he
was a "Ma'anim" meaning a follower of the way) when it comes to prophocy they ususaly use a pictorial image of a bad guy that everyone knows, to make as a reference to the future. In some of the 1st - 6th century "psuedo-plagraphic" texts, the give the name "armeilus" as the name of the "Anti-christ".
Armeilus basicly is noted as being a person, who by his nature is more like what we would consider a worldy man that causes the "Amo Israel" (the people
of Israel) to follow a path that is anti-spiritual, or more of a path with
out awareness of God. The main texts that talk about Armeilus is "the
Apocolips of Simon Bar-YoChai" the was a great rabbinical sage from the
Mishna era and also one of the main figures in the commentary of the Zohar. Something of interest to think about, the letters WWW in hebrew is "Vav, Vav, Vav" which mathmaticly (hebrews letters are also numbers) = 6, 6, 6... kind
of an interesting coincadence.

if you want to research more, google "Ha'Ketz Yamim" ( the end of days in hebrew) im sure it will provide you with some interesting search results.
along with "Meshiach Ben-yoseph", "Meshiach Ben-ephraim", and "Meshiach Ben-Dovid" you find some VERY interesting passages from both "Midrash-rabbah" which is a mythological addition to the Talmud, and also from the Zohar,
which is the top metaphysical commentary on the Tanach, Mishna, and Talmud. happy researching guys!

Thanks
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the name of the "Anti-christ". Armeilus basicly is noted as being a person, who by his nature is more like what we would consider a worldy
man that causes the "Amo Israel" (the people of Israel) to follow a path that is anti-spiritual, or more of a path with out awareness of God. The

I know this is an old post, however I just read over this and it raised the question - Does the anti-christ identify himself to the public as an atheist?

All atheist publications all speak blasphemy against God. All material regarding atheism blames everything that is wrong in this world on God.

Revelations 13:1-6 talk about the beast rising up and speaking blasphemy against God. I don't know of any atheist who speaks positively regarding God. Satanists do this as well, however those that I know of who blaspheme God identify themselves as atheists.

Also, reading verse 16 and 17 - no one was forced to take the mark. Everyone who took it did so willingly. We must not forget that no one can force anyone to consent to anything, but you can cooerce them.

17 also struck my eye - "And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name". So you will either need the mark, the name, and/or the number. We have plenty of ways these days to implement any of these. We could do it via card, app on phone, tatoo, genetic markers, the list goes on.

How ya gonna do it? PS/2 it!

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On 17 Jul 2022, debian said the following...

the name of the "Anti-christ". Armeilus basicly is noted as being a person, who by his nature is more like what we would consider a world man that causes the "Amo Israel" (the people of Israel) to follow a p that is anti-spiritual, or more of a path with out awareness of God.

I know this is an old post, however I just read over this and it raised the question - Does the anti-christ identify himself to the public as an atheist?

There are endtimes writers who see the antichrist as a perversion in religious observances.

So rather than turning away from religion, they will substitute themselves for Christ.

They will add their layer of evil on top of Christianity.

Atheism can bee seen as another part of the end times story,

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On 17 Jul 2022, debian said the following...

I know this is an old post, however I just read over this and it raised the question - Does the anti-christ identify himself to the public as an atheist?

All atheist publications all speak blasphemy against God. All material regarding atheism blames everything that is wrong in this world on God.

Revelations 13:1-6 talk about the beast rising up and speaking blasphemy against God. I don't know of any atheist who speaks positively regarding God. Satanists do this as well, however those that I know of who
blaspheme God identify themselves as atheists.

Also, reading verse 16 and 17 - no one was forced to take the mark. Everyone who took it did so willingly. We must not forget that no one
can force anyone to consent to anything, but you can cooerce them.

17 also struck my eye - "And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name". So
you will either need the mark, the name, and/or the number. We have
plenty of ways these days to implement any of these. We could do it via card, app on phone, tatoo, genetic markers, the list goes on.

How ya gonna do it? PS/2 it!

Almost all Non-3D UPC's have 3 6's in them and have been that way for a long time. So its already been a thing for several generations. I know its kinda not great to quote a move like devil's advocate but the greatest thing the devil ever did was convince every one the he didn't exist. Makes it so people can look at Christians and think of them as fools. They don't even see it as something they are doing wrong and more like they are preventing us from brining anyone new in.

I'm sure they are here and they are running most of the world right now. Take comfort in the fact that no matter what happens its planned and its ok. Were supposed to go though this and all we need to do is not stop believing. Ride the wave of chaos out as we probably blow ourselves up.

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17 also struck my eye - "And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name". So
you will either need the mark, the name, and/or the number. We have
plenty of ways these days to implement any of these. We could do it via card, app on phone, tatoo, genetic markers, the list goes on.

It says "right hand or forehead." Over the course of the decades on this planet I have watched *everything that exists and can identify something* from bar codes to money itself be called the mark of the beast.

https://www.bibleref.com/Revelation/13/Revelation-13-16.html

It does not say left hand, wallet, a thing on a product you buy, or back tattoo. It says right hand or forehead.

Now I don't really believe in any of this. I find it interesting, but other than, "Here is an old book saying this is true," I have no indication any of this is connected to reality.

But if it is, right hand or forehead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GykI2_VaE2s

Watch out for 666!

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Watch out for 666!

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