• Media Mind Control

    From cr1mson@700:100/50 to All on Tue May 5 20:19:34 2020
    Media Mind Control
    by: Jon Justvig ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Have you ever wondered what the media is doing behind the scenes? It's our interest to not be controlled by the media. People watching and listening
    like zombies. What happens to our mind when we listen to the television?
    This day and age while everything is happening, our minds are being subliminalized by what's being viewed. Our minds being programmed by what
    we see on the screen. It's easy to be soaked into what's going on in the world. Where is there truth in the media? There's so many different sides
    to what's being viewed like a rubix cube. Unless we have a strong mind with solid colors instead of always being jumbled, then how strong is our mind?

    The media fills us with thoughts and things happening. There's so much
    going on in the world. Like what's up with this Covid-19 virus? Is it
    perhaps just a sickening being caused by the media? We need to filter what
    is being consumed by what we're watching and listening to.

    We have three gates to our hearts. The eye gate, what we watch. Our ear
    gate, what we see. And, our mouth gate, which what we say. Have you ever noticed when we close one or more of these gates the other gates get more intense? Perhaps there's a blind man that sees the real beauty. Or a deaf person that hears the truth... or even a mute that isn't heard so that a
    word is never told a lie?

    The mind is a terrible thing to waste is what I've heard in the past... it's easy to be consumed by what's being heard, viewed or said that we get caught
    up in what's really going on. We need to start at the foundation on how our mind was developed. The very basics. Simple things like eating, reading
    and writing... What is the mind really made of? It's sometimes puzzling to what our mind really has controlled of. I've heard that if you can
    visualize and what we think about controls what happens in reality. So take
    a moment, clear and clean up the mess of what we're thinking about and focus
    on what's most important.

    Whether we're watching television, listening to our favorite track on our
    radio or reading the newspaper, we're constantly being fed misinformation.
    How are we to know the truth when we're filled with the false.

    Think of a spunge. When it's dry it's solid but when it gets wet it gets
    heavy and is easily able to get dirty. Our minds can be like a spunge.
    Perhaps if we let it dry by resting in the quiet and letting things get off
    our minds will be able to come to reality that a lot of what we're being
    told or what's heard really doesn't even matter. What matters then? I
    would say we use our ethics... some say and eye for an eye and tooth for a tooth... or perhaps how does one feel when their on life support and their
    not in control of who pulls the plug? We've got to get it together people. Life is too short for a lot of this nonsense that's going on today.

    It didn't always be like this before all these modern things. When people started to invent things that's when the world started being torn apart. A
    way of people trying to take control, who does what when they do it and so forth.

    So remember to try to clean out the filter in our minds once in awhile like
    a filter on an air conditioner. Nothing positive can come in when it's
    filled with junk that the media tries and often does contaminate the mind.

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  • From shitty@700:100/18 to All on Sat Jan 13 17:58:19 2024
    I've been noticing the media controlling minds. They're doing it (in the USA) to get people to vote for Democrats. There are many levels to their effort:

    1) Sad faces: When reporters talk about Trump, they put on a sad face, kinda like the one that they use when they report on stuff like "Puppy Gets Lost." That's some kind of subtle brainwashing technique that makes viewers feel sad when they hear stuff anything pertaining to Trump (for example.)

    2) Classical conditioning: The media is copying Ivan Pavlov's classical conditioning experiment. Pavlov's dogs heard a bell ring every day around dinner time, and eventually, they'd salivate when they heard the bell ring. The media is doing this with Trump by reporting on as many negative things about him that they can dig up, as possible. That way, when people hear "Trump," their brains will associate it with something negative. Clever!

    3) Hiding important facts/Reporting unimportant facts: The media had back-to-back orgasms while reporting all the covid stuff after the virus had already taken root in the USA. But a new virus called GX_P2V is 20x more deadly than covid, but the media has yet to say a word about it. Instead, they're reporting on the color of Taylor Swift's stool (BROWN by the way.)

    4) Late Show Giggling: The Jimmy Kimmel Show (and every other late night TV show) is training monkeys to laugh at stuff that's not funny. They also all share a common theme (Trump) They are making viewers think that hating Trump is mandatory, despite all the good things he did when he was president. You don't wanna be the only guy at the party why thinks that Trump was the best presdient in history, you wanna be the guy who giggles with the other piss-chimps.

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  • From roman@700:100/92 to shitty on Sun Jan 14 04:27:24 2024
    It's not about Trump. The leftist billionaires who finance wakecism have adopted racial theory and the theory of the Franfurts school of Marxism. They want to create a new race - the Creoles. They have already ruined South Africa. You know that there they cut off the heads of whites, the Bantus kill the Zulus without stopping, the Zulus slaughter the Bantu. And in general, everyone there lives in enclaves surrounded by walls with barbed wire, like in bad dystopian movies. The ANC destroyed South Africa, left-wing liberals want to do this to all white countries.We are dealing with a unique mixture of bourgeois communism, left-nazism financed by specific people with the goal of undermining America and the entire white civilization as a whole. They are waging an undeclared race war against the societies that gave birth to the very understanding of human rights. It's schizophrenia, but it works. I don't know why DHS hasn't arrested them yet.

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  • From k9zw@700:100/69 to shitty on Sun Jan 14 05:08:38 2024
    On 13 Jan 2024, shitty said the following...

    I've been noticing the media controlling minds. They're doing it (in the USA) to get people to vote for Democrats. There are many levels to their effort:

    Roman points out that the agenda also includes race issues.

    The media agenda is super transparent if you watch Public TV news.

    Historically whatever county and whatever period of time, the media has never operated without an agenda.

    Usually the "man behind the curtain" was never seen. But now those who manipulate the media are not even subtle about it.

    Can we see exactly who pulls the strings? Not always, though the efforts of alternative media - the citizen's media - helps.

    The "citizen's media" is enough of a challenge to the MSM (Mainstream Media) that they cry for censorship.

    Censorship is real horror those who control the media would unleash.

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  • From roman@700:100/92 to k9zw on Sun Jan 14 08:06:05 2024
    The difference between communist ideology (left liberals) and classical American liberalism lies in the reading of "human rights". Communists use the concept of collective group rights they invented. In this way, they can manipulate society, inventing more and more new groups through the protection of which the banksters can earn money and influence. Classical American liberalism (Republicans) protects exclusively the rights of each individual person, as the only minority that needs protection. Thus, on the one hand, we have the protection of the rights of abstract groups on the basis of the fact that someone considers himself to be a member of such a group, on the other hand, the great American idea of ????the personal rights of each individual person, expressed in the American Constitution. That's the difference. Left liberalism is against the American Constitution.

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  • From shitty@700:100/18 to roman on Tue Jan 16 17:50:50 2024
    It's not about Trump. The leftist billionaires who finance wakecism have adopted racial theory and the theory of the Franfurts school of Marxism. They want to create a new race - the Creoles. They have already ruined South Africa. You know that there they cut off the heads of whites, the Bantus kill the Zulus without stopping, the Zulus slaughter the Bantu.
    And in general, everyone there lives in enclaves surrounded by walls
    with barbed wire, like in bad dystopian movies. The ANC destroyed South Africa, left-wing liberals want to do this to all white countries.We are dealing with a unique mixture of bourgeois communism, left-nazism
    financed by specific people with the goal of undermining America and the entire white civilization as a whole. They are waging an undeclared race war against the societies that gave birth to the very understanding of human rights. It's schizophrenia, but it works. I don't know why DHS hasn't arrested them yet.

    I see this happening here. Democrats & their globalist friends want minorities to conform to what the globalists refer to as "communities." A couple examples are "The Black Community" and "the LGBTQ Community."

    In reality, there's so such thing as a "Black Community" or an "LGBT Community. Segregation is non-existent in the USA, so they're trying to change our culture to segregate us in an unofficial way.

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  • From shitty@700:100/18 to k9zw on Tue Jan 16 17:54:05 2024
    Historically whatever county and whatever period of time, the media has never operated without an agenda.

    Usually the "man behind the curtain" was never seen. But now those who manipulate the media are not even subtle about it.

    Absolutely, the media has an agenda. It's the same agenda that the Democrats and other globalists share. The mega-donors are the "man behind the curtain." Wealthy CEOs and inside stock criminals like George Soros are using their financial might to play God.

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  • From roman@700:100/69 to shitty on Wed Jan 17 03:11:47 2024
    Part of the philosophy of communist group rights is the artificial creation of groups. When you create groups whose members demand special treatment, society begins to collapse, as has now happened in South Africa.

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  • From k9zw@700:100/69 to shitty on Wed Jan 17 09:46:45 2024
    On 16 Jan 2024, shitty said the following...
    Usually the "man behind the curtain" was never seen. But now those w manipulate the media are not even subtle about it.

    Absolutely, the media has an agenda. It's the same agenda that the Democrats and other globalists share. The mega-donors are the "man
    behind the curtain." Wealthy CEOs and inside stock criminals like George Soros are using their financial might to play God.

    These manipulators operate from a different point of reference than "mere citizens of the realm" operate from.

    Many are pan-nationalistic in nature.

    Few seem to champion Christian Values, instead putting forth value sets ranging from secular-Judiasm, Agnostic Opportunism, Show Christians, every variety of occultism, pagan, or satanism, Simulationists (who believe we live in a simulation), and others - all quite different but mainly sharing a "me first, F'you" underpinings.

    Those with open values are attacked by the mobs, whether other elites or their vasals.

    Not certain if their mindset even views "good vs evil" in the same way as the common man?

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  • From k9zw@700:100/69 to roman on Wed Jan 17 09:49:06 2024
    On 17 Jan 2024, roman said the following...

    Part of the philosophy of communist group rights is the artificial creation of groups. When you create groups whose members demand special treatment, society begins to collapse, as has now happened in South


    The idea of "divide and conquer" predates communism.

    That it is a main tool is certain.

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  • From roman@700:100/69 to k9zw on Wed Jan 17 13:51:30 2024
    For me, what has always been the strangest thing about communism is that people divided according to the principle of belonging to a guild are very proud of their belonging to a guild. Moreover, every time I see a lot of people I think about how the communists could divide them into groups. For example, people on a chairs and standing nearby. People with an Android smartphone and people with an Apple smartphone. People with beards and people
    with mustaches... In fact, they can come up with a lot of groups.

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  • From k9zw@700:100/69 to roman on Wed Jan 17 16:41:15 2024
    On 17 Jan 2024, roman said the following...

    For me, what has always been the strangest thing about communism is that people divided according to the principle of belonging to a guild are
    very proud of their belonging to a guild. Moreover, every time I see a
    lot of people I think about how the communists could divide them into groups. For example, people on a chairs and standing nearby. People with an Android smartphone and people with an Apple smartphone. People with beards and people with mustaches... In fact, they can come up with a lot of groups.

    Segmentation and self-segmentation

    You can build up a multi-axis matrix of a group of people, identifying influencers, controllers, and motivators.

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  • From shitty@700:100/18 to roman on Wed Jan 17 15:51:25 2024
    Part of the philosophy of communist group rights is the artificial creation of groups. When you create groups whose members demand special treatment, society begins to collapse, as has now happened in South Africa.

    That's exactly what's going on here. They are making victims out of people who are NOT victims by telling them faulty statistics. The dummies who fall for it are hypochondriacs.

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  • From shitty@700:100/18 to k9zw on Wed Jan 17 15:55:47 2024
    Absolutely, the media has an agenda. It's the same agenda that the Democrats and other globalists share. The mega-donors are the "man behind the curtain." Wealthy CEOs and inside stock criminals like Geo Soros are using their financial might to play God.

    These manipulators operate from a different point of reference than "mere citizens of the realm" operate from.

    Yes. People who vote Democrat don't realize that they are tools for the ultra-wealthy. There are simple idiotic narratives that they get fooled by that make them think otherwise.

    You can't explain it to them though, because these are the people who think they already know everything.

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  • From paulie420@700:100/71 to shitty on Wed Jan 17 18:06:38 2024
    Yes. People who vote Democrat don't realize that they are tools for the ultra-wealthy.

    In 2o24, voters [period] are tools for the wealthy.



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  • From roman@700:100/69 to shitty on Thu Jan 18 03:22:44 2024
    If the globalists had not created communist gaslighting echo chambers out in HTTPs with the help of their IT cartels, nothing would have happened to the United States. I won't reveal the secret. But most US allies no longer want to be US allies. Nobody in the world wants to be a hostage to deranged wakecists voters who see oppression and imperialism everywhere. We have already seen that the modern United States has been reduced by democrats to the state of a third-rate country in world relations. The Democrats fled Afghanistan because they wanted to, leave the war in Europe to chance, and did nothing for Israel and Taiwan. The Philippines is left alone with China.
    In Afghanistan alone, 1.2 million refugees have fled to Pakistan.
    A million people died in Ukraine. The destruction of Gaza is also on the conscience of the democrats. They knew everything and did nothing to prevent it. They're just doing business. Even Europe began to turn away from the United States, because the Democrats ruined everything. Soon they will destroy the USA too. And I ask. If it's a system. Who is behind this?

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  • From k9zw@700:100/69 to paulie420 on Thu Jan 18 09:29:33 2024
    On 17 Jan 2024, paulie420 said the following...

    Yes. People who vote Democrat don't realize that they are tools for t ultra-wealthy.

    In 2o24, voters [period] are tools for the wealthy.

    Perhaps, but more likely that the voters are barely relevant when the system allows for artificial voters/vote/counts.

    Once if was you could trust God, Country, Family and Friends, albeit in varying levels of confidence.

    Now it is that what is being presented to us as God, Country, Family and Friends is reframed/manipulated that truly "who can you trust?"

    Like living in Orwell's 1984, Rand's Anthem and all with Pink Floyd music setting the mood....

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  • From paulie420@700:100/71 to k9zw on Thu Jan 18 19:33:31 2024
    Like living in Orwell's 1984, Rand's Anthem and all with Pink Floyd music setting the mood....

    One thing is for sure; we're building up to some sort of... thing - I think the 2o24 is gonna be a doozy.

    I feel that Trump will squeak back in - and *I* don't think that's best for America... however, I don't see a better option with the way the left/Biden has performed and hasn't put forth a better option. That could have been an easy thing to do; Biden could have gave a great 'I'm simply too old and am going to support X X, who will come in and continue with Biden values in 2024' and done very well at the polls... it's becoming too late, IMO - I still think Michelle, or someone as 'voteable', will become the Dem pick... but it's just too late. Biden should have done so a year ago!!

    *IF* America has to pick between a Biden/Trump 2025, I don't know how any American [who's honest] could say Trump is a worst choice.

    That's horrible - because the left could do better for America... they just aren't. They're just digging their heals in, doubling down on voting changes and IMO are writing their own 2024 cry-night when Trump wins again.

    Last little note... I find it hilarious how everyone is now saying 'if Trump gets in it'll be so bad....' instead of 'Trump will NEVER be president' like last time. They know it; why the hell are they continuing to back this geriatric loser?



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  • From unixl0rd@700:100/71 to roman on Sat Jan 20 11:06:34 2024
    Africa, left-wing liberals want to do this to all white countries.We are dealing with a unique mixture of bourgeois communism, left-nazism
    financed by specific people with the goal of undermining America and the entire white civilization as a whole. They are waging an undeclared race

    WEF?

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  • From unixl0rd@700:100/71 to shitty on Sat Jan 20 11:11:33 2024
    Absolutely, the media has an agenda. It's the same agenda that the Democrats and other globalists share. The mega-donors are the "man
    behind the curtain." Wealthy CEOs and inside stock criminals like George Soros are using their financial might to play God.

    This is a subject I've been interested, lately. Any websites/books you could recommend?

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  • From unixl0rd@700:100/71 to paulie420 on Sat Jan 20 11:14:23 2024
    In 2o24, voters [period] are tools for the wealthy.

    As a Canuck, I agree. We're screwed.

    ... He's just one big walking hormone.... Neelix of Paris

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  • From roman@700:100/69 to unixl0rd on Sat Jan 20 15:17:10 2024
    Unfortunately, the WEF is an advisory and coordinating body. The final projects are implemented by other structures. And we know very little to assess the whole picture. Therefore, any new information is valuable to me.

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  • From shitty@700:100/18 to roman on Sun Jan 21 05:20:51 2024
    business. Even Europe began to turn away from the United States, because the Democrats ruined everything. Soon they will destroy the USA too. And
    I ask. If it's a system. Who is behind this?

    It looks like the Democrats want to increase the population because when the census gets measured next time, the increased population will allow additional members of congress to be added, and the Democrats have lots of monkeys ready to fill those positions.

    But if I'm wrong, and this is NOT the reason for Democrats filling the country with migrants, then the only other explanation would be that they're centralizing us in the attractive USA, so that they can murder in bulk to appease the other globalists from the WEF.

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  • From roman@700:100/69 to shitty on Sun Jan 21 07:39:51 2024
    My personal observations are:
    1. When the Republicans were in the White House, the US was in Afghanistan and there were not 2 million refugees fleeing from there;
    2. When the Republicans were in the White House in Ukraine, 1 million people no die on both sides, and God knows how many were seriously wounded or shell-shocked we don't know.
    3. When the Republicans were in the White House, Iran was afraid to attack Israel through the Hamas proxy and Gaza was an living city.
    4. When the Republicans were in the White House, China did not try to provoke a war with Taiwan, the Philippines, or India.
    5. When the Republicans were in the White House, pirates from Yemen and Somalia did not stage raid against merchant ships with many casualties and hostage-taking.
    These are my general observations. You can add a lot more. But I'm only interested in geopolitics.

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  • From shitty@700:100/18 to roman on Mon Jan 22 15:10:07 2024
    My personal observations are:
    1. When the Republicans were in the White House, the US was in
    Afghanistan and there were not 2 million refugees fleeing from there;
    2. When the Republicans were in the White House in Ukraine, 1 million people no die on both sides, and God knows how many were seriously
    wounded or shell-shocked we don't know.
    3. When the Republicans were in the White House, Iran was afraid to
    attack Israel through the Hamas proxy and Gaza was an living city.
    4. When the Republicans were in the White House, China did not try to provoke a war with Taiwan, the Philippines, or India.
    5. When the Republicans were in the White House, pirates from Yemen and Somalia did not stage raid against merchant ships with many casualties
    and hostage-taking.
    These are my general observations. You can add a lot more. But I'm only interested in geopolitics.

    Those are good observations.

    Despite these obvious facts, the World Economic Forum still favors Biden. What does that say about the world's top CEOs?

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  • From roman@700:100/69 to shitty on Tue Jan 23 03:33:37 2024
    My working theory is they want to wreak havoc on the world.
    As you know, they built a pipeline and railway from Haifa (Israel) to the shores of the Indian Ocean through all of Saudi Arabia. India has been maded as the new world factory instead of China. And now all goods bypass the Suez Canal and bypass the Chinese allies. A railway was also built along this pipeline. It is obvious that the globalists have lost interest in some regions of the world, so they plunged them into chaos in order to make money by selling old, out-of-date weapons. And at the same time confiscate hundreds of billions of dollars. In short, in my opinion, they are creating a new configuration of the world that is convenient for their business.

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  • From shitty@700:100/18 to roman on Tue Jan 23 16:23:29 2024
    My working theory is they want to wreak havoc on the world.
    As you know, they built a pipeline and railway from Haifa (Israel) to the shores of the Indian Ocean through all of Saudi Arabia. India has been maded as the new world factory instead of China. And now all goods
    bypass the Suez Canal and bypass the Chinese allies. A railway was also built along this pipeline. It is obvious that the globalists have lost interest in some regions of the world, so they plunged them into chaos
    in order to make money by selling old, out-of-date weapons. And at the same time confiscate hundreds of billions of dollars. In short, in my opinion, they are creating a new configuration of the world that is convenient for their business.

    I'm not sure if they're going to kill us or just exploit us some more ;)

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  • From roman@700:100/69 to shitty on Wed Jan 24 03:26:18 2024
    Millions of people have already died, not counting those who were vaccinated. The worst serial killers never look like real butchers.

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  • From k9zw@700:100/69 to shitty on Wed Jan 24 10:09:21 2024
    On 23 Jan 2024, shitty said the following...

    I'm not sure if they're going to kill us or just exploit us some more ;)

    Most likely "yes" is the answer to your question.

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  • From shitty@700:100/18 to roman on Wed Jan 24 14:36:32 2024
    Millions of people have already died, not counting those who were vaccinated. The worst serial killers never look like real butchers.

    I heard something about migrants being killed as "human sacrifices." Have you heard any news about that?

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  • From roman@700:100/92 to shitty on Wed Jan 24 19:01:23 2024
    There is always certain information that does not have 100% confirmation that many of the actions of globalists are of a mystical, ritual nature.
    In principle, illegal migrants are ideal victims for human sacrifice, since it has a sence. Who knows? I'm no longer surprised by anything. If they tell me tomorrow that they are recycling these people for adrenochrome, I will not be surprised.

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  • From k9zw@700:100/69 to shitty on Thu Jan 25 09:53:07 2024
    On 24 Jan 2024, shitty said the following...

    Millions of people have already died, not counting those who were vaccinated. The worst serial killers never look like real butchers.

    I heard something about migrants being killed as "human sacrifices."
    Have you heard any news about that?

    Unexplained is where these illegals are going, who is housing/feeding them or even providing employment?

    Then the matter of the child illegals - where are they?

    Seems what the government can account for is a fraction of those let in illegally.

    Seems that the expected quantities of services required may not match very well the actual?

    Now since they mostly had phones, why can't the government tell where they are?

    Seems there is a lack of will to want to the know the answers to those questions.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@700:100/20 to k9zw on Fri Jan 26 06:36:00 2024
    k9zw wrote to shitty <=-

    Unexplained is where these illegals are going, who is housing/feeding
    them or even providing employment?

    We're employing them.

    Sleeping on the couches of family/friends. Staying in housing the
    caters to undocumented renters. Working in kitchens, fields, doing day
    work for residents, subcontractor work for a licensed contractor, doing
    any sort of cash labor under the table.


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  • From k9zw@700:100/69 to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Jan 26 11:11:47 2024
    On 26 Jan 2024, poindexter FORTRAN said the following...

    k9zw wrote to shitty <=-

    Unexplained is where these illegals are going, who is housing/feeding them or even providing employment?

    We're employing them.

    Sleeping on the couches of family/friends. Staying in housing the
    caters to undocumented renters. Working in kitchens, fields, doing day
    work for residents, subcontractor work for a licensed contractor, doing
    any sort of cash labor under the table.

    The curious part is not seeing them.

    Perhaps my part of the country is less open to them?

    I am aware of facilities privately built that seemed orientated to house unspecified peoples for short-medium term durations. Almost like barrack/dorms.

    Seems a different sort of "secret build" than the usual doomsday bunkers.

    Honestly what rich dude wants to build 100 person hardended dorms, rather than their own hidey-hole bunker?

    --

    To couch-surf and black-economy exist, there needs to be a way to obtain enough basics to first survive and secondly satisfy the illegals' expectations. Wonder how it happens?

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  • From shitty@700:100/18 to k9zw on Fri Jan 26 15:13:30 2024
    I heard something about migrants being killed as "human sacrifices." Have you heard any news about that?

    Unexplained is where these illegals are going, who is housing/feeding
    them or even providing employment?

    Then the matter of the child illegals - where are they?

    These are good questions. I recall a time shortly after Biden was elected and there were 10s of thousands of unaccompanied children turning up at the border. Now, 3 years later, they think we forgot about it. I didn't forget.

    Lots of questions remain unanswered about that situation.

    Seems that the expected quantities of services required may not match
    very well the actual?

    That's a good point! Why aren't the hospitals flooded with illegals seeking treatment? Why aren't ophanages across the country flooded with migrant children? (Because they sacrificed them all!)

    Seems there is a lack of will to want to the know the answers to those questions.

    The liberal voters only care about what is relevant, and the rules of what is relevant are dictated to them by the television and radio.

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  • From paulie420@700:100/71 to k9zw on Fri Jan 26 20:50:37 2024
    Unexplained is where these illegals are going, who is housing/feeding
    them or even providing employment?

    You are.



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  • From paulie420@700:100/71 to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Jan 26 20:51:29 2024
    Sleeping on the couches of family/friends. Staying in housing the
    caters to undocumented renters. Working in kitchens, fields, doing day
    work for residents, subcontractor work for a licensed contractor, doing
    any sort of cash labor under the table.

    Just read about the new corps that are 'selling land' to illegals - they mostly default within the first year, or years to come... big business these days starts in the desert and ends with deportation.



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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@700:100/20 to k9zw on Sat Jan 27 08:18:00 2024
    k9zw wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    I am aware of facilities privately built that seemed orientated to
    house unspecified peoples for short-medium term durations. Almost like barrack/dorms.

    In agricultural areas, there's bunk housing and a process for
    undocumented workers to stay during harvest season. Everyone looks the
    other way because they typically are migrant, travel once the harvest
    is done, and their work is needed in the current state of affairs.

    Semi-permanent service workers could stay in in-law apartments, unzoned
    multi-tenant buildings, or rent a room from someone with a lease and
    legal resident status. All have their disadvantages.

    Farms would need to pay proper wages, taxes, etc. and pass the added
    expense to the consumer. Joe America doesn't want to pay $10 for a head
    of lettuce. I don't have numbers on Big Ag's lobby efforts, but I'm
    sure it could be extensive.

    In addition, the hispanic vote is significant in California and the
    Southwest.

    This all adds up to politicians treading very lightly around the issue.



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  • From k9zw@700:100/69 to paulie420 on Sun Jan 28 15:14:28 2024
    On 26 Jan 2024, paulie420 said the following...

    Unexplained is where these illegals are going, who is housing/feeding them or even providing employment?

    You are.

    Indirectly as taxpayers, we most like are.

    Outside of that indirect tax funding mechanisms, they are are also being financied my interested parties.

    I am not a financially interested party.

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  • From paulie420@700:100/71 to k9zw on Sun Jan 28 17:27:35 2024
    Unexplained is where these illegals are going, who is housing/fe them or even providing employment?

    You are.

    Indirectly as taxpayers, we most like are.
    Outside of that indirect tax funding mechanisms, they are are also being financied my interested parties.
    I am not a financially interested party.

    This isn't any new problem - we don't get a say where our tax money goes at all, and that's been a problem for decades.

    With the current situation in America I don't think we should be supporting MANY of the things that this administration is supporting today... till we can fix the issues at home how can we afford to help foreigners with theirs?!



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