• Re: Retropi on Nespi

    From Bbsing.Bbs@80:774/40 to Richard Menedetter on Thu Aug 1 17:01:00 2019
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    I had a small fan. but I just bought a "Ultimate Pi cooling fan" for 8 USD. (simply a large heatsink with 2 cooling fans).
    Probably not needed but I liked its appearance, and it may stop
    throttling of the pi.

    Is your colling fan attached to pins where you controll when the fan turns on?

    Is it on all the time?

    I have one of those cases with a fan attached and the fan power is attached pins 3 and 5.

    It works great for cooling the pi, but the fan is cheap and its loud. I think I will attached a pulldown to it and setup a script to turn on the fan only if it needs to be cooled.

    +-----+-----+---------+------+---+---Pi 3---+---+------+---------+-----+-----+
    | BCM | wPi | Name | Mode | V | Physical | V | Mode | Name | wPi | BCM |
    +-----+-----+---------+------+---+----++----+---+------+---------+-----+-----+
    | | | 3.3v | | | 1 || 2 | | | 5v | | |
    | 2 | 8 | SDA.1 | IN | 1 | 3 || 4 | | | 5V | | |
    | 3 | 9 | SCL.1 | IN | 1 | 5 || 6 | | | 0v | | |


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  • From Richard Menedetter@80:774/18 to Bbsing.Bbs on Mon Aug 12 12:49:24 2019
    Hi Bbsing!

    01 Aug 2019 17:01, from Bbsing.Bbs -> Richard Menedetter:

    I had a small fan. but I just bought a "Ultimate Pi cooling fan"
    for 8 USD. (simply a large heatsink with 2 cooling fans).
    Probably not needed but I liked its appearance, and it may stop
    throttling of the pi.
    Is your colling fan attached to pins where you controll when the fan
    turns on?

    No ... same as you, fan is allways on.

    CU, Ricsi

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  • From Bbsing.Bbs@80:774/40 to Richard Menedetter on Wed Aug 14 23:20:00 2019
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    Hi Bbsing!

    01 Aug 2019 17:01, from Bbsing.Bbs -> Richard Menedetter:

    I had a small fan. but I just bought a "Ultimate Pi cooling fan"
    for 8 USD. (simply a large heatsink with 2 cooling fans).
    Probably not needed but I liked its appearance, and it may stop
    throttling of the pi.
    Is your colling fan attached to pins where you controll when the fan
    turns on?

    No ... same as you, fan is allways on.

    CU, Ricsi

    Ok I'll come up with a solution for this.

    I think a here are some parts required for minimal required build:
    1) 1 560 ohm resistor
    2) 1 NPN 3904 transistor
    4) some wires
    .) a diagram
    .) some code see below
    .) possibly a diode.

    I did some messing around and found a fix for this annoying fan that is always on. .. mine is rattling a bit and if I can just turn it on when the cpu/gpu get hot, I can prevent a lot of noise.

    The basics of the hookup:

    [raspi pin 12]-(gpio18 3v)---(560 ohm resistor)---(npn3904 base)
    [raspi pin 6]-(ground)---[emitter (npn3904)]
    [collector (npn3904)]-(5v)---(-){fan motor black lead}
    {fan motor red wire}----[raspi pin 2]-(+5v)

    The gpio readall output helps with orientation

    -- CPU SIDE --
    +---Pi 3B+-+---+------+---------+-----+-----+
    | Physical | V | Mode | Name | wPi | BCM |
    | +----++----+---+------+---------+-----+-----+
    | | 1 || 2 | | | 5v | | |
    | 3 || 4 | | | 5v | | |
    H | 5 || 6 | | | 0v | | |
    D | 7 || 8 | 0 | IN | TxD | 15 | 14 |
    M | 9 || 10 | 1 | IN | RxD | 16 | 15 |
    I | 11 || 12 | 1 | OUT | GPIO. 1 | 1 | 18 |
    | 13 || 14 | | | 0v | | |
    P | 15 || 16 | 0 | IN | GPIO. 4 | 4 | 23 |
    O | 17 || 18 | 0 | IN | GPIO. 5 | 5 | 24 |
    R | 19 || 20 | | | 0v | | |
    T | 21 || 22 | 0 | IN | GPIO. 6 | 6 | 25 |
    | 23 || 24 | 1 | IN | CE0 | 10 | 8 |
    | | 25 || 26 | 1 | IN | CE1 | 11 | 7 |
    | | 27 || 28 | 1 | IN | SCL.0 | 31 | 1 |
    | 29 || 30 | | | 0v | | |
    | 31 || 32 | 0 | IN | GPIO.26 | 26 | 12 |
    | 33 || 34 | | | 0v | | |
    | 35 || 36 | 0 | IN | GPIO.27 | 27 | 16 |
    | 37 || 38 | 0 | IN | GPIO.28 | 28 | 20 |
    | 39 || 40 | 0 | IN | GPIO.29 | 29 | 21 |
    +----++----+---+------+---------+-----+-----+
    | Physical | V | Mode | Name | wPi | BCM |
    +---Pi 3B+-+---+------+---------+-----+-----+
    -- USB ETHERNET SIDE --

    I used Edoardo Paoloa Scalafiotti's code with minor modifications
    basic code begin -- base64 begin --

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    -- base64 end --

    run the code above using sudo:
    sudo ./raspi.fan.control.basic.py

    I tested this with the above parts and code.
    My system usually runs about 49 deg celcius.
    I test this with stres via:
    stress -v -c 4 -t 900s

    to install stress type the following:
    sudo apt update && sudo apt install stress

    If you want a systemd script for this let me know. Thats probably best if you just want the entire thing to run at startup.

    NOTE: I found if I don't slow down the execution loop that will drive the cpu use up and increase cpu temp. I also added a sleep gate to allow the system to cool below the threshold I set to keep the npn3904 from micro triggers.

    If anyone sees and issue with the wiring setup let me know.

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  • From Bbsing.Bbs@80:774/40 to Richard Menedetter on Fri Sep 4 03:08:42 2020
    Re: Retropi on Nespi
    By: Richard Menedetter to Bbsing.Bbs on Mon Aug 12 2019 12:49 pm

    Is your colling fan attached to pins where you controll when the fan turns on?

    No ... same as you, fan is allways on.

    CU, Ricsi

    Thanks for the reply.

    I wrote some code and added a transistor to make mine turn off.

    I recently got a pimoroni fan shim. Its OK, but sucked to put together. They used cheap nilon screws and nuts. So I had to mod the
    set they use for a spacer with a small drill bit.

    I'm reconfiguring my raspi-3 so I can use the new fan. I forgot I had a build with a breakout cable and its blocking the spot for
    the fanshim.

    supposedly the pimoroni fanshim has some code to turn it on and off.


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