• Back to the BBS Documentary Part One

    From Anachronist@80:774/68 to All on Tue Dec 22 19:51:41 2020
    After nine months in development, part one of Back to the BBS: The Return to Being Online is out! This new documentary covers the past and present of our scene. What's really great about it is that it highlights what's happening NOW as opposed to being stuck in the past. It features interviews with members of our scene as well as overviews of some of the top boards. Check it out at: https://youtu.be/nO0wGSX2liQ


    c5aNACHRONiST c1| c2absinthebbs.net:1940
    --- CNet/5
    * Origin: Badass Amiga Board aBSiNTHE BBS absinthebbs.net:1940 (80:774/68)
  • From Nelgin@nelgin@endofthelinebbs.com.nospam to Anachronist on Wed Dec 23 01:29:09 2020
    Anachronist wrote:
    After nine months in development, part one of Back to the BBS: The Return to Being Online is out! This new documentary covers the past and present of our scene. What's really great about it is that it highlights what's happening NOW
    as opposed to being stuck in the past. It features interviews with members of our scene as well as overviews of some of the top boards. Check it out at: https://youtu.be/nO0wGSX2liQ

    Seemed more like a way for Mystic sysops to adverise their boards.
  • From paulie420@80:505/12 to Nelgin on Wed Dec 23 05:03:35 2020
    Seemed more like a way for Mystic sysops to adverise their boards.

    It was advertised heavily around the BBS socials and FTNs for anyone to participate. aBSINTHE, the best cNet/Amiga BBS was interviewed heavily and if I
    had anything negative to say about it, it was that it was more of a synopsis of what BBSes are and how to connect to them; but further episodes are coming and I hope he digs into meat and potates of CURRENT BBS topics...

    You know, like Mystic and Mystic modding. :P



    |07p|15AULIE|1142|07o
    |08.........

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2020/11/23 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: 2o fOr beeRS bbs>>>20ForBeers.com:1337 (80:505/12)
  • From HusTler@80:61/0 to Nelgin on Wed Dec 23 06:54:17 2020
    Re: Re: Back to the BBS Documentary Part One
    By: Nelgin to Anachronist on Wed Dec 23 2020 01:29 am

    After nine months in development, part one of Back to the BBS: The
    Return to Being Online is out! This new documentary covers the past and

    Seemed more like a way for Mystic sysops to adverise their boards.

    Did you notice Synchronet wasn't mentioned?

    ===
    þ Synchronet þ Havens BBS havens.synchro.net:23
    --- SBBSecho 3.10-Linux
    * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (80:61/0)
  • From Nelgin@nelgin@endofthelinebbs.com.nospam to HusTler on Wed Dec 23 17:07:50 2020
    HusTler wrote:
    Re: Re: Back to the BBS Documentary Part One
    By: Nelgin to Anachronist on Wed Dec 23 2020 01:29 am

    After nine months in development, part one of Back to the BBS: The Return to Being Online is out! This new documentary covers the past and

    Seemed more like a way for Mystic sysops to adverise their boards.

    Did you notice Synchronet wasn't mentioned?

    To be fair, nothing was mentioned specifically, I don't think. We'll have to see what is upcoming. Thought I must admit, I fell asleep during the last
    part, it was that interesting lol.
  • From Anachronist@80:774/68 to Nelgin on Wed Dec 23 15:52:56 2020
    Seemed more like a way for Mystic sysops to adverise their boards.
    --- SBBSecho 3.11-Linux
    * Origin: End Of The Line BBS - endofthelinebbs.com (80:774/13)

    Huh? The two main boards featured were aBSiNTHE and Bottomless Abyss, and aBSiNTHE is running on CNET Pro 5.x for the Amiga of all things.


    cb>> caAnachronist

    --- CNet/5
    * Origin: Badass Amiga Board aBSiNTHE BBS absinthebbs.net:1940 (80:774/68)
  • From Joacim Melin@80:505/13 to Anachronist on Mon Dec 28 14:18:53 2020
    After nine months in development, part one of Back to the BBS: The
    Return to
    Being Online is out! This new documentary covers the past and present
    of our
    scene. What's really great about it is that it highlights what's
    happening NOW
    as opposed to being stuck in the past. It features interviews with
    members of
    our scene as well as overviews of some of the top boards. Check it out
    at:
    https://youtu.be/nO0wGSX2liQ


    c5aNACHRONiST c1| c2absinthebbs.net:1940

    Just watched the first part and it's very impressive and highly entertaining. Well done!

    --- NiKom v2.5.0
    * Origin: Delta City (deltacity.se, Vallentuna, Sweden) (80:505/13.0)
  • From hyjinx@80:774/81 to Nelgin on Thu Jan 7 06:00:01 2021
    Hi All,
    Did you notice Synchronet wasn't mentioned?

    Part two of the documentary specifically goes into BBS software. Think of part one as an introduction to all the other sections. I wanted to make sure that Part one was the thing that got potential newcomers to BBS's into it. If they want to know more, they can either call into a BBS, or watch the following parts as they go along.

    However, I have promoted calls all over the place, for interviews and content: BBS's, reddit, facebook and many other places for people to get involved. Many,
    many have, but literally nothing to do with Synchronet - nobody has shown the least bit interest in talking to me to represent that. I can't go chasing down every single person and product in the scene, so, if there is something that needs to be addressed, before it is too late, now is the time to speak out and get what needs to be covered in the docu. I personally very little about Synchronet. I am a user of BBSes, not a Sysop.

    To be fair, nothing was mentioned specifically, I don't think. We'll
    have tosee what is upcoming. Thought I must admit, I fell asleep during the lastpart, it was that interesting lol.

    Good to see that my dulcet tones are still successfully lulling people to sleep! Remember that the audience is not for sysops, or BBS afficionados, it is
    for a potential new generation of BBS users.

    For those that haven't fallen asleep (sic), here's what the contents of Part 2 and Part 3 are:
    PART 2:
    Games/ Doors
    Mods
    Hardware (eg the wifi232, some commodores and stuff, but not much here)
    BBS Server Software (eg Mystic, Enigma, ... Synchronet)
    BBS Messaging /echomail
    Privacy

    PART 3:
    ANSI scene
    Demoscene / Mod Scene
    ... and a little look back in time at the underground HPAVC stuff.

    If you think there is something that's not there that should be, let me know!

    Cheers,
    Alistair // hyjinx // youtube.com/alsgeeklab

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2020/12/04 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: thE qUAntUm wOrmhOlE, rAmsgAtE, uK. bbs.erb.pw (80:774/81)
  • From apam@80:505/14 to hyjinx on Thu Jan 7 20:14:22 2021
    least bit interest in talking to me to represent that. I can't go
    chasing down
    every single person and product in the scene, so, if there is

    Hmm. Did you speak to rob? He posted a link to your documentary on the synchronet facebook page, which is how I found out about it. So he must
    be at least interested in watching it.

    I'm not a documentary maker, but would have thought chasing people down
    would be a part of it.. and it's not like there is more than a handful of active 'products'.

    Good luck with it anyway, I watched some of part one.

    Andrew


    --- Talisman v0.9-dev (Linux/armv7l)
    * Origin: HappyLand v2.0 - telnet://happyland.zapto.org:11892/ (80:505/14)
  • From Ogg@Ogg to All on Thu Jan 7 10:15:00 2021
    Hello 774/81>!

    ** On Thursday 07.01.21 - 01:00, 774/81 wrote to Nelgin:

    Did you notice Synchronet wasn't mentioned?

    [snip]

    However, I have promoted calls all over the place, for interviews and content: BBS's, reddit, facebook and many other places for people to get involved. Many, many have, but literally nothing to do with Synchronet - nobody has shown the least bit interest in talking to me to represent that.

    The Synchronet author would be a great choice. He sounds like a
    fun and entertaining fellow (proficient programmer, drummer,
    family man). You should have no trouble tracking him down.
    You've already introduced his terminal software, SynchTerm.


    I am a user of BBSes, not a Sysop.

    Me too. Decades earlier, I did operate a few BBSes, and co-
    sysoped a PCBoard system on the side. Now, I approach this hobby
    from a user's perspective and messaging (echomail).


    Remember that the audience is not for sysops, or BBS afficionados, it
    is for a potential new generation of BBS users.

    [snip]

    For those that haven't fallen asleep (sic), here's what the contents of Part 2 and Part 3 are:
    PART 2:
    Games/ Doors
    Mods
    Hardware (eg the wifi232, some commodores and stuff, but not much here)
    BBS Server Software (eg Mystic, Enigma, ... Synchronet)
    BBS Messaging /echomail
    Privacy

    That's quite a package for PART 2. WRT echomail, don't forget to
    mention:

    [1] offline (QWK),
    [2] nntp methods (JAMnntp, SAMPInntp), and
    [3] point software (OpenXP, WinPoint), and even
    [4] software that can be used on a smartphone or tablet.

    Re [4] http://ambrosia60.dd-dns.de/fidonet/fidonet-on-
    smartphones.htm ..summarizes the options nicely, although one of
    them is nolonger supported and has bugs.

    Those are all quite relevant for the "user".

    New on the horizon is leveraging the opensource and secure
    Telegram services (https://telegram.org) for accessing FTN
    echomail. A sysop residing in Crimea has RECENTLY produced (and
    is perfecting weekly) a mail processor so that FTN echomail can
    be channelled to and from the Telegram environment. Users only
    need to install the app, register with the service, and they are
    ready to read and write in select Fidonet echos.

    Hop on over to the fidonet echo FIDONET.TELEGRAM to join the
    conversation and some experimentation.

    If you want to hop in via Telegram, here are the invite links for
    select echos that work resonably well for the instant messaging
    style and appearance:

    FIDONET.TELEGRAM
    :: https://t.me/joinchat/SPBwvE1gkHzEKAkapsHkdQ

    CHAT
    :: https://t.me/joinchat/SPBwvB0bLAJSx05BUocqYQ

    FUTURE4FIDO
    :: https://t.me/joinchat/SPBwvElfwUPvwAigYZO8oA

    ASIAN_LINK
    :: https://t.me/joinchat/H99gCE5QuSvbC13vXhF-qw

    MUSIC
    :: https://t.me/joinchat/SPBwvBh2-Rh-4NCHB9nvFQ

    COFFEE_KLATSCH
    :: https://t.me/joinchat/H99gCEfn85Hui-GEb3nwGA

    TAGLINES
    :: https://t.me/joinchat/SPBwvFE_2T5E27HXelZveg

    AUDIO
    :: https://t.me/joinchat/SPBwvE6RJxeedpvKCT7QgQ

    MOVIES
    :: https://t.me/joinchat/SPBwvFa9mkCYyzQO8mQeWA

    Maybe some of what I have mentioned here can make it into your
    docu series.

    --
    ..Ogg
  • From HusTler@80:61/0 to hyjinx on Thu Jan 7 07:23:39 2021
    Re: Re: Back to the BBS Documentary Part One
    By: hyjinx to Nelgin on Thu Jan 07 2021 06:00 am

    Did you notice Synchronet wasn't mentioned?

    However, I have promoted calls all over the place, for interviews and conten BBS's, reddit, facebook and many other places for people to get involved. Ma many have, but literally nothing to do with Synchronet - nobody has shown

    I won't watch this trash because Synchronet is not even mentioned. It's mostly the mystic boys and I do not like mystic and the SysOps that run it.

    ===
    þ Synchronet þ Havens BBS havens.synchro.net:23
    --- SBBSecho 3.10-Linux
    * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (80:61/0)
  • From Nelgin@nelgin@endofthelinebbs.com.nospam to hyjinx on Thu Jan 7 13:46:01 2021
    hyjinx wrote:
    Hi All,
    Did you notice Synchronet wasn't mentioned?

    Part two of the documentary specifically goes into BBS software. Think of part
    one as an introduction to all the other sections. I wanted to make sure that Part one was the thing that got potential newcomers to BBS's into it. If they want to know more, they can either call into a BBS, or watch the following parts as they go along.

    However, I have promoted calls all over the place, for interviews and content:
    BBS's, reddit, facebook and many other places for people to get involved. Many,
    many have, but literally nothing to do with Synchronet - nobody has shown the
    least bit interest in talking to me to represent that. I can't go chasing down
    every single person and product in the scene, so, if there is something that needs to be addressed, before it is too late, now is the time to speak out and
    get what needs to be covered in the docu. I personally very little about Synchronet. I am a user of BBSes, not a Sysop.

    I never saw anything about this until someone mentioned the youtube link but then again, I'm not active on BBS Facebook pages and the like. I've forwarded this on to Digital Man, the author of Synchronet and if he's interested, he'll be in touch, I guess.
  • From Nelgin@nelgin@endofthelinebbs.com.nospam to HusTler on Thu Jan 7 13:47:05 2021
    HusTler wrote:
    Re: Re: Back to the BBS Documentary Part One
    By: hyjinx to Nelgin on Thu Jan 07 2021 06:00 am

    Did you notice Synchronet wasn't mentioned?

    However, I have promoted calls all over the place, for interviews and conten
    BBS's, reddit, facebook and many other places for people to get involved. Ma
    many have, but literally nothing to do with Synchronet - nobody has shown

    I won't watch this trash because Synchronet is not even mentioned. It's mostly the mystic boys and I do not like mystic and the SysOps that run it.

    That's a bit harsh. The only problem I have with Mystic boards is that you usually have to sit through pages of graphics and other "information" before you get to a menu.
  • From Bob Roberts@80:505/15 to hyjinx on Thu Jan 7 11:37:38 2021
    Re: Re: Back to the BBS Documentary Part One
    By: hyjinx to Nelgin on Thu Jan 07 2021 06:00 am

    However, I have promoted calls all over the place, for interviews and content: BBS's, reddit, facebook and many other places for people to get involved. Many,
    many have, but literally nothing to do with Synchronet - nobody has shown the least bit interest in talking to me to represent that. I can't go

    I think Digital Man and/or eChicken would be the ones to interview about the current state of Synchronet. As one of the last remaining, currently developed, BBS softwares.... it would be a shame if the doc didn't have a few minutes dedicated to Synchronet. There are 174 systems in the Synchronet BBS List, which is automatically culled after 30 days if a system fails checks.

    https://synchro.net/sbbslist.html

    I think both Mystic and Synchronet have their pros and cons. I like them both.
    Mystic is extensible via Python, and Synch via Javascript. They both have many of the same features, but different audiences and implementations.

    Bob Roberts
    --- SBBSecho 3.12-Linux
    * Origin: Halls of Valhalla -=- San Francisco (80:505/15)
  • From Weishaupt@80:774/68 to Joacim Melin on Thu Jan 7 15:54:19 2021
    That documentary is why I am here. I have been aware of this board for awhile but didn't get around to calling it until I watched the doc and found it amusing, somehow, that the sysop was an actual absinthe drinker.

    We are rare.

    Or rarer than we should be.

    By which I mean people like us breathe rarefied air and drink rarefied spirits as we contemplate our dominion over the cosmos.

    My mom says I got a swole head but I really I just miss my adolescent days in the 1980s when I typed any old craziness that came out of my fool head.

    Great doc. BBS docs should not have ended with Jason Scott's excellent outing,
    and I hope to see more.


    cb>> caWeishaupt

    --- CNet/5
    * Origin: Badass Amiga Board aBSiNTHE BBS absinthebbs.net:1940 (80:774/68)
  • From Anachronist@80:774/68 to Joacim Melin on Thu Jan 7 18:07:59 2021
    Just watched the first part and it's very impressive and highly entertaining.
    Well done!

    I'm glad that you enjoyed it! Al did a great job putting this together. I'm looking forward to Part II and Part III coming out soon.


    cb>> caAnachronist

    --- CNet/5
    * Origin: Badass Amiga Board aBSiNTHE BBS absinthebbs.net:1940 (80:774/68)
  • From Vk3jed@80:61/0 to hyjinx on Fri Jan 8 21:21:00 2021
    On 01-07-21 06:00, hyjinx wrote to Nelgin <=-

    many have, but literally nothing to do with Synchronet - nobody has
    shown the least bit interest in talking to me to represent that. I
    can't go chasing down every single person and product in the scene, so,
    if there is something that needs to be addressed, before it is too
    late, now is the time to speak out and get what needs to be covered in
    the docu. I personally very little about Synchronet. I am a user of
    BBSes, not a Sysop.

    Interesting. I certainly use Synchronet as a sysop, though Rob (DM) is the logical person here. :) Synchronet is certainly one of the major players in today's BBS scene and has some really nice features. I personally make use of its flexibility in message handling. I use FTN, QWK and email (both to host mailing lists and to gate existing mailing lists into the BBS). And I even have one or two "mailin addresses" to allow external news bots to easily post to specific echos.

    For those that haven't fallen asleep (sic), here's what the contents of Part 2 and Part 3 are:
    PART 2:
    Games/ Doors
    Mods
    Hardware (eg the wifi232, some commodores and stuff, but not much here) BBS Server Software (eg Mystic, Enigma, ... Synchronet)
    BBS Messaging /echomail
    Privacy

    Cool, this one sounds interesting. :)

    PART 3:
    ANSI scene
    Demoscene / Mod Scene
    ... and a little look back in time at the underground HPAVC stuff.

    While not my thing, certainly some impressive stuff happening in this area. Good choice.

    If you think there is something that's not there that should be, let me know!

    Good question. I had some connections with the underground scene here, though I kept at arms length from it myself. One thing I do miss from the past is the diversity of message networks in the past. That diveristy now resides largely in places like Facebook and Reddit. BBSs no longer have the user base to support it. Sadly, the walled garden nature of the Internet makes it impossible to tape into this to diversify BBS messaging.

    Back in the heyday, alongside Fidonet, we were linked to networks covering ham radio (I do run a net for radio comms, but keep it broad), the occult, LGBT and Buddhism, among others. The BBS was shut down over 20 years ago, so I'm relying on hazy memories. :)


    ... Dijon vu: the feeling you've tasted that mustard before.
    === MultiMail/Win v0.51
    --- SBBSecho 3.10-Linux
    * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (80:61/0)
  • From Vk3jed@80:61/0 to Ogg on Fri Jan 8 21:25:00 2021
    On 01-07-21 10:15, Ogg wrote to All <=-

    The Synchronet author would be a great choice. He sounds like a
    fun and entertaining fellow (proficient programmer, drummer,
    family man). You should have no trouble tracking him down.
    You've already introduced his terminal software, SynchTerm.

    He can be found on DOVE-Net, FSX, Fidonet and no doubt other places. :)

    I am a user of BBSes, not a Sysop.

    Me too. Decades earlier, I did operate a few BBSes, and co-
    sysoped a PCBoard system on the side. Now, I approach this hobby
    from a user's perspective and messaging (echomail).


    Remember that the audience is not for sysops, or BBS afficionados, it
    is for a potential new generation of BBS users.

    [snip]

    For those that haven't fallen asleep (sic), here's what the contents of Part 2 and Part 3 are:
    PART 2:
    Games/ Doors
    Mods
    Hardware (eg the wifi232, some commodores and stuff, but not much here)
    BBS Server Software (eg Mystic, Enigma, ... Synchronet)
    BBS Messaging /echomail
    Privacy

    That's quite a package for PART 2. WRT echomail, don't forget to
    mention:

    [1] offline (QWK),
    [2] nntp methods (JAMnntp, SAMPInntp), and
    [3] point software (OpenXP, WinPoint), and even
    [4] software that can be used on a smartphone or tablet.

    Yep on all counts. :)

    Re [4] http://ambrosia60.dd-dns.de/fidonet/fidonet-on-
    smartphones.htm ..summarizes the options nicely, although one of
    them is nolonger supported and has bugs.

    Hmm, good to know that link.

    Hop on over to the fidonet echo FIDONET.TELEGRAM to join the
    conversation and some experimentation.

    Definitely!


    ... Jokes about German sausage are the wurst.
    === MultiMail/Win v0.51
    --- SBBSecho 3.10-Linux
    * Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (80:61/0)
  • From Don Rolo@80:774/99 to hyjinx on Sat Jan 9 12:17:02 2021
    Alistar! keep up the good work! a documentary like yours is MUCH needed in
    the BBS scene. Thanks for that.

    A NO, I didn't fell sleep. Quite te opossite!

    ***
    Don Rolo - The Vault BBS - thevaultbbs.ddns.net:2323
    +200 Door Games! Atari/ZX Spectrum/C64/DOS stuff!
    ANSI & ASCII Art Packs. ONLY curated content.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/05/26 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: The Vault BBS (80:774/99)
  • From Don Rolo@80:774/99 to HusTler on Sat Jan 9 12:24:40 2021
    I won't watch this trash because Synchronet is not even mentioned. It's mostly the mystic boys and I do not like mystic and the SysOps that run it.

    Are you talking of the people who made Mystic or SysOps that have nothing to
    do with the development of Mystic and use it (like myself)?
    Can you elaborate more your statement? I'm not here to fight, just wanna know and understand another vision of this matter.
    Thank you.

    ***
    Don Rolo - The Vault BBS - thevaultbbs.ddns.net:2323
    +200 Door Games! Atari/ZX Spectrum/C64/DOS stuff!
    ANSI & ASCII Art Packs. ONLY curated content.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/05/26 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: The Vault BBS (80:774/99)
  • From Jikey@80:505/10 to Anachronist on Sun Feb 21 06:20:17 2021

    On 22 Dec 2020, Anachronist said the following...

    After nine months in development, part one of Back to the BBS: The
    Return to Being Online is out! This new documentary covers the past and

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A45 2020/02/18 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Buckeye Telegraph (80:505/10)