• Man ....

    From Exodus@25:25/0 to All on Sun Feb 13 12:54:17 2022
    Man ... didn't know when I released my 1.19a code people would screw it up trying to port it. I just logged onto 2 Renegade boards that are aparently running on Linux. I cannot even SEE anything to load if I use NetRunner or Syncterm. I have to use mTel to even see it load.

    The ansis and all the coding is screwed (as I've only need to the new user info so far), they have a pause in the middle of text questions. Hell, the one board has a lightbar shuttle logon and it doens't even work right. Still haven't been validated in 2 weeks. (Shows they don't care about what their BBS is doing). When I try to send an email, it locks up after the subject line. Don't even get a chance to type.

    Atlast one this other one I can get to send a message, but it still SOOO screwed. I just don't get it. Why screw something up when there is a perfectly good option out there that WORKS. I can see if you wanna play around, but to have it out there for people to logon? Are you serious? It DOESN'T work.

    I don't get people ... espeically these Linux(nutballs) people, that think that is all there is. Try OS/2.

    ... Death, Life, and Infinite are the only constants.

    --- Renegade v1.30r1/Exp
    * Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.rgbbs.info (25:25/0)
  • From Atreyu@25:25/5 to Exodus on Sun Feb 13 19:17:42 2022
    On 13 Feb 22 12:54:17, Exodus said the following to All:

    Man ... didn't know when I released my 1.19a code people would screw it trying to port it. I just logged onto 2 Renegade boards that are aparently running on Linux. I cannot even SEE anything to load if I use NetRunner or Syncterm. I have to use mTel to even see it load.

    To me... Renegade is and shall always be, MS-DOS.

    Atreyu

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (25:25/5)
  • From Exodus@25:25/0 to Atreyu on Sun Feb 13 20:52:14 2022
    To me... Renegade is and shall always be, MS-DOS.

    AMEN.

    ... Hell hath no fury like vested interest masquerading as moral principle.

    --- Renegade v1.30r1/Exp
    * Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.rgbbs.info (25:25/0)
  • From Ktulu@25:1/100 to Exodus on Sun Feb 13 23:04:14 2022
    I don't get people ... espeically these Linux(nutballs) people, that think that is all there is. Try OS/2.

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Couldn't have said it any better myself.

    Yet everyone agrees with the Open Source model.

    |08-|12Ktulu
    |12S|04ys|12O|04p |08@ |12I|04nsane |12A|04sylum |12BBS
    |07Insane Asylum BBS -telnet://asylum.erb.pw port 23

    ... ASCII stupid question, get a stupid ANSI.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/01/28 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: Insane Asylum BBS (telnet asylum.erb.pw:23) (25:1/100)
  • From Atreyu@25:25/5 to Ktulu on Tue Feb 15 06:37:27 2022
    On 13 Feb 22 23:04:14, Ktulu said the following to Exodus:

    think that is all there is. Try OS/2.

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Couldn't have said it any better myself.

    Its been my experience, personal and professional, that life really boils down to there being two types of sysadmins.

    The first tend to be normal. Normally social, outgoing, fun to hang out with, go for beers, can switch off from discussing work and especially tech, its not a big deal if something breaks, BBS software usually runs good as the OS
    is better at running DOS, etc and surprisingly these guys tend to have good backups. These sysadmins make the computer "work for them". Its just a silly computer that runs programs. Its not a big deal. If they can't fix it, someone else can.

    The second tend to be sooooooooo insufferable, no social skills, usually very rude or a masochistic know-it-all, extremely defensive of their precious system as they likely spent MANY hours perfecting it (but its never really perfected), love to yack about how great their system is even as updates break dependancies, and BBS doors usually never work because their OS was never
    meant to run DOS (and if they do run DOS it needs to be some emulator). These sysadmins "work for their computer". Their computer is such a big deal to
    them they can't pull themselves away from it. Programs that run just never
    seem to ever run "right". Theres *ALWAYS SOMETHING* that needs tinkering with. And with all the tinkering, if they can't fix it... nobody else can.

    Guess which runs Windows and which runs Linux...

    Atreyu

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (25:25/5)
  • From paulie420@25:1/104 to exodus on Thu Feb 17 21:01:35 2022
    Man ... didn't know when I released my 1.19a code people would screw Ex> it up trying to port it.

    I tried testing a linux version and it wasn't ready. And I wasn't a good beta tester - but... I guess I was hoping for something more 'ready'.

    I'm happy that folks are digging in - and in the instance I am referencing, no one was stating that the project was ready for anything other than alpha/beta testing - but...

    Don't let any code dissuade you from your RG work. Its super valuable, dude. Thanks for continuing to supply an RG release that IS ready for prime time BBS use.



    |07p|15AULIE|1142|07o
    |08.........

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: 2o fOr beeRS bbS >> 20ForBeers.com:1337 (25:1/104)
  • From Exodus@25:25/0 to Paulie420 on Fri Feb 18 19:08:22 2022

    Don't let any code dissuade you from your RG work. Its super valuable, dude Thanks for continuing to supply an RG release that IS ready for prime time

    I wish it were 10 more years advanced by now tho. :(

    ... Duct tape, not The Force, holds the universe together.

    --- Renegade v1.30r1/Exp
    * Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.rgbbs.info (25:25/0)
  • From paulie420@25:1/104 to Exodus on Fri Feb 18 17:52:44 2022
    Don't let any code dissuade you from your RG work. Its super valuable, Thanks for continuing to supply an RG release that IS ready for prime t

    I wish it were 10 more years advanced by now tho. :(

    Is it in Pascal? Your 'closed open-source', right? Or, if you have a community please post the details...

    I *love* RG - I know very minimal Pascal, mainly thru MPL... but man... RG.

    :P



    |07p|15AULIE|1142|07o
    |08.........

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: 2o fOr beeRS bbS >> 20ForBeers.com:1337 (25:1/104)
  • From Exodus@25:25/0 to Paulie420 on Fri Feb 18 22:40:17 2022
    Is it in Pascal? Your 'closed open-source', right? Or, if you have a commun

    Yup. Pascal. Nothing differnt than when Mystic's code for 1.07 or 1.05 wwas released as open source and then "reclosed" to new coding. Right now it's just me and Lee Woodridge.

    ... Desperate times call for cheap shots.

    --- Renegade v1.30r1/Exp
    * Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.rgbbs.info (25:25/0)
  • From Ktulu@25:1/100 to Atreyu on Sat Feb 19 19:27:30 2022
    Its been my experience, personal and professional, that life really
    boils down to there being two types of sysadmins.

    Hey Atreyu, Long time no talk.

    The first tend to be normal. Normally social, outgoing, fun to hang out

    I'm going to guess this is the Windows Sysadmin.....

    The second tend to be sooooooooo insufferable, no social skills, usually

    ....and this is the Linux Sysadmin?

    How did I do?

    |08-|12Ktulu
    |12S|04ys|12O|04p |08@ |12I|04nsane |12A|04sylum |12BBS
    |07Insane Asylum BBS -telnet://asylum.erb.pw port 23

    ... Computers all wait at the same speed!

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/01/28 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: Insane Asylum BBS (telnet asylum.erb.pw:23) (25:1/100)
  • From Atreyu@25:25/5 to Ktulu on Sun Feb 20 09:51:07 2022
    On 19 Feb 22 19:27:30, Ktulu said the following to Atreyu:

    Hey Atreyu, Long time no talk.

    Hows things with you lately...

    The second tend to be sooooooooo insufferable, no social skills, usuall

    ....and this is the Linux Sysadmin?

    How did I do?


    Perfect score. :)

    Atreyu

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (25:25/5)
  • From Lux@25:25/22 to Exodus on Sun Feb 20 09:09:56 2022
    Man ... didn't know when I released my 1.19a code people would screw it trying to port it. I just logged onto 2 Renegade boards that are aparentl running on Linux. I cannot even SEE anything to load if I use NetRunner or Syncterm. I have to use mTel to even see it load.

    He is just getting his feet wet. I am running his port and using what little I know to help it along. Suddn Death is also helping him out here and there.

    Its a solid start, but yeah got a long way to go.

    ... With caller ID, Cthulhu hasn't dialed out in ages!...

    --- Renegade v1.18a
    * Origin: Physics bulletinboard.systems 16BIT! (25:25/22)
  • From Lux@25:25/22 to Atreyu on Sun Feb 20 09:13:38 2022
    To me... Renegade is and shall always be, MS-DOS.

    On the contrar...

    Im using PC-DOS over here ;)

    ... I played poker w/ tarot cards-got a flush & 5 people died

    --- Renegade v1.18a
    * Origin: Physics bulletinboard.systems 16BIT! (25:25/22)
  • From Exodus@25:25/0 to Lux on Sun Feb 20 13:25:52 2022
    Im using PC-DOS over here ;)

    Ick.

    ... I've lost my sense of direction; which way to the bar?

    --- Renegade v1.30r1/Exp
    * Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.rgbbs.info (25:25/0)
  • From Exodus@25:25/0 to Lux on Sun Feb 20 13:27:23 2022
    He is just getting his feet wet. I am running his port and using what littl

    Then someone needs to tell them how to run a BBS before they put it online for people to call. 5 weeks without being validated is kinda stupid. Just shows they don't give a shit and wanna show off a "k-rad" linux asshats.

    ... If we left the bones out it wouldn't be crunchy!

    --- Renegade v1.30r1/Exp
    * Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.rgbbs.info (25:25/0)
  • From Ktulu@25:1/100 to Atreyu on Sun Feb 20 16:29:58 2022
    Hows things with you lately...

    Things could be better but I won't complain.

    Perfect score. :)

    I have nothing against that OTHER operating system. But, i fully understand the points you've made.

    |08-|12Ktulu
    |12S|04ys|12O|04p |08@ |12I|04nsane |12A|04sylum |12BBS
    |07Insane Asylum BBS -telnet://asylum.erb.pw port 23

    ... (A)bort, (R)etry, (I)nfluence with large hammer.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/01/28 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: Insane Asylum BBS (telnet asylum.erb.pw:23) (25:1/100)
  • From Mro@25:25/0 to Exodus on Mon Feb 21 02:39:25 2022
    |03Quoting message from |11Exodus |03to |11All
    |03on |1113 Feb 22 12:54|03.

    Man ... didn't know when I released my 1.19a code people would screw it trying to port it. I just logged onto 2 Renegade boards that are aparentl running on Linux. I cannot even SEE anything to load if I use NetRunner or Syncterm. I have to use mTel to even see it load.


    which bbses are these?
    i didnt see it ported to linux.

    are they maybe using dosbox or dosemu to launch it?
    I don't get people ... espeically these Linux(nutballs) people, that th that is all there is. Try OS/2.


    fuck that retarded shit.

    ... Zen Druids practice Transcendental Vegetation.

    --- Renegade v1.30r1/Exp
    * Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.rgbbs.info (25:25/0)
  • From Mro@25:25/0 to Exodus on Mon Feb 21 02:46:13 2022
    |03Quoting message from |11Exodus |03to |11Paulie420
    |03on |1118 Feb 22 22:40|03.

    Is it in Pascal? Your 'closed open-source', right? Or, if you have a commun

    Yup. Pascal. Nothing differnt than when Mystic's code for 1.07 or 1.05 ww released as open source and then "reclosed" to new coding. Right now it's just me and Lee Woodridge.


    well mystic went open and then closed because g00r00 is a coward and a bitch. it's still an inferior bbs software and doesn't even have it's own fossil still, right?

    ... Blessed are the meek, for they make great scapegoats.

    --- Renegade v1.30r1/Exp
    * Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.rgbbs.info (25:25/0)
  • From Mro@25:25/0 to Lux on Mon Feb 21 02:46:57 2022
    |03Quoting message from |11Lux |03to |11Exodus
    |03on |1120 Feb 22 09:09:56|03.

    Man ... didn't know when I released my 1.19a code people would screw it trying to port it. I just logged onto 2 Renegade boards that are aparentl running on Linux. I cannot even SEE anything to load if I use NetRunner or Syncterm. I have to use mTel to even see it load.

    He is just getting his feet wet. I am running his port and using what littl know to help it along. Suddn Death is also helping him out here and there.

    Its a solid start, but yeah got a long way to go.

    then you can get netsurge to set him up on scinet this weekend, bro

    ... Difference between Genius & Stupidity? Genius has limits.

    --- Renegade v1.30r1/Exp
    * Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.rgbbs.info (25:25/0)
  • From Exodus@25:25/0 to Mro on Mon Feb 21 06:02:31 2022
    it's still an inferior bbs software and doesn't even have it's own fossil still, right?

    Got me on that one.

    ... Nothing's foolproof. Idiots are too ingenious.

    --- Renegade v1.30r1/Exp
    * Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.rgbbs.info (25:25/0)
  • From Atreyu@25:25/5 to Mro on Mon Feb 21 08:50:54 2022
    On 21 Feb 22 02:46:13, Mro said the following to Exodus:

    well mystic went open and then closed because g00r00 is a coward and a bitch it's still an inferior bbs software and doesn't even have it's own fossil still, right?

    I've talked to G00R00 privately and is far from how you describe... I'm not a fan of Mystic and would never run it here but still respect anyone who works
    on BBS software.

    Atreyu

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (25:25/5)
  • From Shitty@25:25/0 to Mro on Mon Feb 21 22:14:02 2022
    Yup. Pascal. Nothing differnt than when Mystic's code for 1.07 or 1.05 ww released as open source and then "reclosed" to new coding. Right now it's just me and Lee Woodridge.


    well mystic went open and then closed because g00r00 is a coward and a bitc it's still an inferior bbs software and doesn't even have it's own fossil still, right?

    It's got the Mystic scripting language. I use it and it works. Why do you
    want a BBS software to use a fossil driver? And why would you want it to be open source? Compatibility issues with old hardware?

    Sometimes you have to forgive people who have pissed you off. I pray for the well being of people who piss me off. (Maybe he was having a bad day.)

    --- Renegade v1.30r1/Exp
    * Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.rgbbs.info (25:25/0)
  • From Lux@25:25/22 to Exodus on Mon Feb 21 21:45:26 2022
    Then someone needs to tell them how to run a BBS before they put it online people to call. 5 weeks without being validated is kinda stupid. Just sho they don't give a shit and wanna show off a "k-rad" linux asshats.

    The RG thing is just up for Beta testing I think he runs a Daydream board on another port that he pays more attention to.

    But yeah if you gonna go full autopilot on your BBS its best to autovalidate.

    ... You make it we take it.

    --- Renegade v1.18a
    * Origin: Physics bulletinboard.systems 16BIT! (25:25/22)
  • From Lux@25:25/22 to Mro on Mon Feb 21 21:49:20 2022

    which bbses are these?
    i didnt see it ported to linux.

    are they maybe using dosbox or dosemu to launch it?
    I don't get people ... espeically these Linux(nutballs) people, that th that is all there is. Try OS/2.


    fuck that retarded shit.


    HAHAHAHa classic mro,

    Hes talking about Catch22 on port 24 the renegade port.
    catch22.zapto.org

    I think Catch22 Daydream is port 26

    ... Sure, it's embarrassing, but it's over quickly.

    --- Renegade v1.18a
    * Origin: Physics bulletinboard.systems 16BIT! (25:25/22)
  • From Lux@25:25/22 to Atreyu on Mon Feb 21 21:54:43 2022
    I've talked to G00R00 privately and is far from how you describe... I'm not fan of Mystic and would never run it here but still respect anyone who work on BBS software.

    Same, no easy task just messing with one element of one is hours of work without much expectation of return. Not sure if when James does it if he breaks 9 things fixing one thing (like I do) but I know that happens and I dont know how one keeps from throwing the computer out the window.

    ... I refuse to answer on the grounds..in the air maybe...

    --- Renegade v1.18a
    * Origin: Physics bulletinboard.systems 16BIT! (25:25/22)
  • From Mro@25:25/0 to Atreyu on Mon Feb 21 23:57:05 2022
    |03Quoting message from |11Atreyu |03to |11Mro
    |03on |1121 Feb 22 08:50:54|03.

    On 21 Feb 22 02:46:13, Mro said the following to Exodus:

    well mystic went open and then closed because g00r00 is a coward and a bitc it's still an inferior bbs software and doesn't even have it's own fossil still, right?

    I've talked to G00R00 privately and is far from how you describe... I'm not fan of Mystic and would never run it here but still respect anyone who work on BBS software.

    Atreyu

    regardless of what he told you, over time he told a different story.

    he did not want anybody to participate in the development.
    he had it open for a little while and he said he didn't like that
    nobody participated.

    he also would shoot down people's ideas and didn't want people to contribute.
    I also heard from someone that g00r00 got mad because this someone took the source and put it on his website and that's when it all happened.

    this someone used to take other people's stuff and make a few changes and
    stamp his name on it. he even tried to charge for it in the past. hint: he's a furry.

    it's his stuff and he has a right to be closed source. I've seen stuff get put on github and people fork it and do a few dumb things and then they claim they are an author.

    I don't think mystic should be open source, i don't even think anybody could really improve it in that environment. probably the only decent bbs software that is open source is synchronet and there's only about 2-3 guys who really really do good things with synchronet.
    really do good things with synchronet.

    ... And then you typed 'G=C800:5', right?

    --- Renegade v1.30r1/Exp
    * Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.rgbbs.info (25:25/0)
  • From Mro@25:25/0 to Shitty on Tue Feb 22 00:01:26 2022
    |03Quoting message from |11Shitty |03to |11Mro
    |03on |1121 Feb 22 22:14|03.

    Yup. Pascal. Nothing differnt than when Mystic's code for 1.07 or 1.05 ww released as open source and then "reclosed" to new coding. Right now it's just me and Lee Woodridge.


    well mystic went open and then closed because g00r00 is a coward and a bitc it's still an inferior bbs software and doesn't even have it's own fossil still, right?

    It's got the Mystic scripting language. I use it and it works. Why do you want a BBS software to use a fossil driver? And why would you want it to be open source? Compatibility issues with old hardware?


    well, because bbses run doorgames and they require a fossil driver, usually. it's better to have a fossil driver than bum one off of another developer


    Sometimes you have to forgive people who have pissed you off. I pray for th well being of people who piss me off. (Maybe he was having a bad day.)



    he didn't piss me off and i don't want it to be open source. I've ran mystic and i don't like it. i see no benefit to it. if i were to run something different i'd run telegard or elebbs.

    i liked running telegard; it was fun.

    --- Renegade v1.30r1/Exp
    * Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.rgbbs.info (25:25/0)
  • From Atreyu@25:25/5 to Lux on Tue Feb 22 06:28:46 2022
    On 21 Feb 22 21:54:43, Lux said the following to Atreyu:

    I've talked to G00R00 privately and is far from how you describe... I'm not fan of Mystic and would never run it here but still respect anyone who work on BBS software.

    Same, no easy task just messing with one element of one is hours of work without much expectation of return. Not sure if when James does it if he breaks 9 things fixing one thing (like I do) but I know that happens and I dont know how one keeps from throwing the computer out the window.

    Exactly... BBS's and mailers are complex software. To do one change means taking into account the umpteen million things that can and likely will go wrong.

    Atreyu

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (25:25/5)
  • From Atreyu@25:25/5 to Mro on Tue Feb 22 06:42:21 2022
    On 21 Feb 22 23:57:05, Mro said the following to Atreyu:

    regardless of what he told you, over time he told a different story.

    ... I'm not going to quote your entire reply, as nothing you wrote validates him being a "coward" or a "bitch". I haven't heard that type of insult for a long time. Sorry but it comes off as if you posted this after your parents
    gave you permission to use the family-room computer.

    Mystic is G00r00's software and he can do whatever he wants with it. If
    someone doesn't like that he hates the input of others or doesn't give thanks when due... then that person is free to go use other software.

    An author of a program for a silly hobby only a fraction of the world uses anymore, really owes nothing to you or anyone. Unless maybe you pay him or are in some legally binding support contract.

    I can tell you from first hand experience that writing and maintaining BBS or mailer software is not easy because the software is complicated, sometimes the users claim to be subject matter experts yet cannot find the on/off switch
    and sometimes one deals with being called names just because "they can".

    Atreyu

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (25:25/5)
  • From paulie420@25:1/104 to Exodus on Tue Feb 22 15:37:27 2022
    Yup. Pascal. Nothing differnt than when Mystic's code for 1.07 or 1.05 wwas released as open source and then "reclosed" to new coding. Right now it's just me and Lee Woodridge.

    I don't think theres anything wrong with that, brotha. Trust me, its just a blessing to have people still interested and working on these softwares. I'm a fan of Renegade getting updates in 2o22 - its crazy.

    Thanks for sharing a bit... :P



    |07p|15AULIE|1142|07o
    |08.........

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: 2o fOr beeRS bbS >> 20ForBeers.com:1337 (25:1/104)
  • From Lux@25:25/22 to Mro on Tue Feb 22 18:30:07 2022
    different i'd run telegard or elebbs.

    i liked running telegard; it was fun.

    Man, I wish someone would the list is getting pretty short.

    ... Cease & Desist citizen, or I'll reduce your head to a fine mist.

    --- Renegade v1.18a
    * Origin: Physics bulletinboard.systems 16BIT! (25:25/22)
  • From Lux@25:25/22 to Atreyu on Tue Feb 22 18:33:19 2022
    Exactly... BBS's and mailers are complex software. To do one change means taking into account the umpteen million things that can and likely will go wrong.

    I bet, my biggest worry would be fixing something and not realizing what broke and a few versions later the broken things revealed and all the sudden your like I wonder when that happened?

    ... Mad at your neighbor? Buy his kid a drum!

    --- Renegade v1.18a
    * Origin: Physics bulletinboard.systems 16BIT! (25:25/22)
  • From paulie420@25:1/104 to Atreyu on Sat Feb 26 14:31:31 2022
    ... I'm not going to quote your entire reply, as nothing you wrote validates him being a "coward" or a "bitch". I haven't heard that type
    of insult for a long time. Sorry but it comes off as if you posted this after your parents gave you permission to use the family-room computer.

    All I wanna say is that I agree with you fully. I don't want to stir the shit pot of someone whom I ... thats all.

    g00 is very responsive and helpful to the sysops that use his software. While there isn't a team of folks to fix things immediately, g00 almost does exactly that. To say that Mystic isn't a force in the BBS community would simply be false.



    |07p|15AULIE|1142|07o
    |08.........

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: 2o fOr beeRS bbS >> 20ForBeers.com:1337 (25:1/104)
  • From Mro@25:25/0 to Lux on Mon Feb 28 09:11:15 2022
    |03Quoting message from |11Lux |03to |11Mro
    |03on |1121 Feb 22 21:49:20|03.


    which bbses are these?
    i didnt see it ported to linux.

    are they maybe using dosbox or dosemu to launch it?
    I don't get people ... espeically these Linux(nutballs) people, that th that is all there is. Try OS/2.


    fuck that retarded shit.


    HAHAHAHa classic mro,

    Hes talking about Catch22 on port 24 the renegade port.
    catch22.zapto.org

    i guess not everyone can be cool like me and have a menu where you select from all the bbses you run

    i called his bbs and his login matrix looks like shit and i keep disconnecting.

    https://i.imgur.com/h7XtnRU.png

    i cant stay connected longer than 5 seconds.

    ... He who hesitates is trampled by the mob.

    --- Renegade v1.30r2/Exp
    * Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.rgbbs.info (25:25/0)
  • From Mro@25:25/0 to Atreyu on Mon Feb 28 09:16:56 2022
    |03Quoting message from |11Atreyu |03to |11Mro
    |03on |1122 Feb 22 06:42:21|03.

    On 21 Feb 22 23:57:05, Mro said the following to Atreyu:

    regardless of what he told you, over time he told a different story.

    ... I'm not going to quote your entire reply, as nothing you wrote validate him being a "coward" or a "bitch". I haven't heard that type of insult for long time. Sorry but it comes off as if you posted this after your parents gave you permission to use the family-room computer.

    i dont need you to quote it and you arent paying me any tribute by quoting. and i have a memory so i know what i said.

    you're right, he can do whatever he wants with his software. and he reverted the source to private because he wants it to be his.

    he complained about people contributing and he complained about people not contributing. he complained about people's feature suggestions.
    he was a bitch.

    my parents are dead so i didnt run to the family computer room.

    james can do whatever he wants with mystic and i support anything he does.
    i'd never run mystic because it's a shit bbs software. he wasnt allowed to work on renegade so he made something that was like renegade and elebbs but not as good.

    good for him. i've seen worse.
    An author of a program for a silly hobby only a fraction of the world uses anymore, really owes nothing to you or anyone. Unless maybe you pay him or in some legally binding support contract.



    i dont know why you are implying that he owes me something.

    i think mystic should be closed source and i think mystic has become the new synchronet , where 15 years ago more people run it and they have boring bbses. not that it matters now, because we have no users.

    the only thing i dont like about g00g00 is how he would ditch his friends and go missing for years, come back and then do the same. those people were my friends at the time and i find that behavior ugly.

    --- Renegade v1.30r2/Exp
    * Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.rgbbs.info (25:25/0)
  • From Mro@25:25/0 to Paulie420 on Mon Feb 28 09:18:47 2022
    |03Quoting message from |11Paulie420 |03to |11Exodus
    |03on |1122 Feb 22 15:37:27|03.

    Yup. Pascal. Nothing differnt than when Mystic's code for 1.07 or 1. wwas released as open source and then "reclosed" to new coding. Righ now it's just me and Lee Woodridge.

    I don't think theres anything wrong with that, brotha. Trust me, its just a blessing to have people still interested and working on these softwares. I' fan of Renegade getting updates in 2o22 - its crazy.

    Thanks for sharing a bit... :P


    i'd like to see renegade go back to 5-11.
    i'm not happy with the changes lee palmer made.

    what annoys me now is this tagline stuff. is there a way to turn off the taglines so it doesnt ask me everytime? no clue.

    ... Drink your coffee! There are people in India sleeping.

    --- Renegade v1.30r2/Exp
    * Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.rgbbs.info (25:25/0)
  • From Mro@25:25/0 to Paulie420 on Mon Feb 28 09:22:48 2022
    |03Quoting message from |11Paulie420 |03to |11Atreyu
    |03on |1126 Feb 22 14:31:31|03.

    ... I'm not going to quote your entire reply, as nothing you wrote validates him being a "coward" or a "bitch". I haven't heard that type of insult for a long time. Sorry but it comes off as if you posted thi after your parents gave you permission to use the family-room computer

    All I wanna say is that I agree with you fully. I don't want to stir the sh pot of someone whom I ... thats all.


    yeah but you werent around for all the other stuff.

    g00 is very responsive and helpful to the sysops that use his software. Whi there isn't a team of folks to fix things immediately, g00 almost does exac that. To say that Mystic isn't a force in the BBS community would simply be false.

    that's good that he's responsive NOW. now there COULD be a team of people helping with mystic. many good people offered to help. he flat out told them no. that's a matter of record, go look in zeronet where he's talking about going back to closed source.

    is mystic a force in the bbs community? that's a funny thing to say, since we have no users. are there some mystic bbses? yeah there's a lot of them. not many would make a list of great bbses to call.

    I don't know why people would want to run mystic when there's other stuff out there to run. someone should dig up and old obscure bbs software and run it. it's fun when people do THAT. not so fun to see a mystic bbs that has MRC and then a doorparty server and no local games.

    i'm fine with whatever happens. i rarely call bbses anyways. the people left in bbsing are the survivors and then you have the other side where it's the bottom of the barrel folks.

    --- Renegade v1.30r2/Exp
    * Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.rgbbs.info (25:25/0)
  • From Atreyu@25:25/5 to Mro on Mon Feb 28 13:39:55 2022
    On 28 Feb 22 09:16:56, Mro said the following to Atreyu:

    i dont know why you are implying that he owes me something.

    The entire basis of your replies to me is that he's a coward or a "bitch" for not meeting some level of expectation. Yours or others. What I'm saying is
    that it reads as if you or someone held him to an expectation he wasn't able to deliver. And I understand that, but this is the type of hobby where people aren't exactly emotional or normal... in fact they vanish without a trace.

    Nobody ever got teary-eyed for the Sysop that died in his apartment bathtub one day. But his rent and bills were on auto-withdrawl from a bank account funded with his likewise auto-deposited monthly disability income.

    Everything ran on auto-pilot even when the neighbors finally complained about the smell and had the cops bust down the door. Everything ran during the
    time the next-of-kin finally showed up to discover to their horror that this was an absolute hoarding disaster and it was certainly going to take longer than a weekend to move all his stuff out. There are logistical and presumably some legal/health/sanitation challenges when a tenant is a hoarder.

    Everything ran during the cleanup operation, for what seemed like another month... before someone finally pulled the plug on this little tiny PC
    running in the bedroom corner, buried under rotten fast food garbage.

    Now THAT was a Sysop who went WELL above our "expectations" at the time.

    Atreyu

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (25:25/5)
  • From paulie420@25:1/104 to Mro on Mon Feb 28 16:52:51 2022
    i'd like to see renegade go back to 5-11.
    i'm not happy with the changes lee palmer made.

    what annoys me now is this tagline stuff. is there a way to turn off the taglines so it doesnt ask me everytime? no clue.

    You can just pull up the editor commands by typing "/" while editing a message and toggle taglines off.

    Furthermore, sysops can choose whether to use taglines system-wide in the BBS configs. They can be set to toggle on/off on DEFAULT for users, and users can set that themselves - but I wish there were a toggle in the Account Settings Menu, too.

    ...

    Oh wait; thats on Mystic. :/



    |07p|15AULIE|1142|07o
    |08.........

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: 2o fOr beeRS bbS >> 20ForBeers.com:1337 (25:1/104)
  • From Lux@25:25/22 to Mro on Mon Feb 28 20:02:21 2022
    i called his bbs and his login matrix looks like shit and i keep disconnecting.

    https://i.imgur.com/h7XtnRU.png
    See I like that.

    i cant stay connected longer than 5 seconds.

    Thats done on purpose (for now)
    You select a selection before the timer runs out.

    Its really not read yet, its just up so a select group can do testing.
    You can also beta test on your linux box, got a good bit of it functioning already.

    ... Antelope Freeway, 1/64 mile.

    --- Renegade v1.18a
    * Origin: Physics bulletinboard.systems 16BIT! (25:25/22)
  • From Lux@25:25/22 to Atreyu on Mon Feb 28 20:09:16 2022
    An author of a program for a silly hobby only a fraction of the world uses anymore, really owes nothing to you or anyone. Unless maybe you pay him or in some legally binding support contract.

    ERhem, but it is literally THEE fraction of the world.
    The rest of the point and click world is nitwits.

    Reddit is a pretty cool group maybe we should offer Reddit at the BBS level. :)

    ... She's dead, Jim. But hell, she was like that in the sack

    --- Renegade v1.18a
    * Origin: Physics bulletinboard.systems 16BIT! (25:25/22)
  • From Lux@25:25/22 to Mro on Mon Feb 28 20:13:14 2022
    not that it matters now, because we have no users.

    Whatever we literally have the coolest fuckin people here ever.

    I like you all just the way you are. Serious.

    ... Who watches the watchmen?

    --- Renegade v1.18a
    * Origin: Physics bulletinboard.systems 16BIT! (25:25/22)
  • From Lux@25:25/22 to Mro on Mon Feb 28 20:16:59 2022
    i'd like to see renegade go back to 5-11.

    Running at port 1337

    i'm not happy with the changes lee palmer made.

    ok

    what annoys me now is this tagline stuff. is there a way to turn off the taglines so it doesnt ask me everytime? no clue.

    Actually you can do better then that..
    Its actually allows the op to select what bases you want to allow taglines in.

    Being op you must answer two questions
    Tagline?
    Post anonymous?


    ... Pardon me if not every "i" is crossed and "t" dotted...

    --- Renegade v1.18a
    * Origin: Physics bulletinboard.systems 16BIT! (25:25/22)
  • From Lux@25:25/22 to Atreyu on Mon Feb 28 20:24:17 2022
    Nobody ever got teary-eyed for the Sysop that died in his apartment bathtub one day. But his rent and bills were on auto-withdrawl from a bank account funded with his likewise auto-deposited monthly disability income.

    Interesting read.

    I now wonder if some of these other boards are a similar story but the guy died because he drove into a lake and was never discovered. and for years this forgotten apartment with this BBS running in it year after year.

    Gotta hand it to them at least their autopilot systems are stable.

    ... Monday is an awful way to spend one seventh of your life.

    --- Renegade v1.18a
    * Origin: Physics bulletinboard.systems 16BIT! (25:25/22)
  • From Exodus@25:25/0 to Mro on Mon Feb 28 16:33:38 2022
    i'd like to see renegade go back to 5-11.
    i'm not happy with the changes lee palmer made.


    It's set per base. I'll have to look to see how hard it would be to make it "per user" .... It's either ON or OFF per base right now. I don't even pay it attention anymore. I just hit ENTER ENTER. ;)

    ... Most "scientists" are bottle washers and button sorters. - Heinlein

    --- Renegade v1.30r2/Exp
    * Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.rgbbs.info (25:25/0)
  • From Mro@25:25/0 to Atreyu on Wed Mar 2 04:11:08 2022
    |03Quoting message from |11Atreyu |03to |11Mro
    |03on |1128 Feb 22 13:39:55|03.

    On 28 Feb 22 09:16:56, Mro said the following to Atreyu:

    i dont know why you are implying that he owes me something.

    The entire basis of your replies to me is that he's a coward or a "bitch" f not meeting some level of expectation. Yours or others. What I'm saying is that it reads as if you or someone held him to an expectation he wasn't abl to deliver. And I understand that, but this is the type of hobby where peop aren't exactly emotional or normal... in fact they vanish without a trace.


    nope i'm basing on it with his discussion with people on another msg network.

    the only thing i expect of him is to come and go, because that's what he's done the entire time i've known of him.

    i say he's a coward because he yanked back the source when someone took it and posted it online on their own bbs website. he used that as an excuse because he never wanted to have it public in the first place. he never wanted help from others, but was pressured to do all that open source stuff.

    that's his right to do, i dont care.

    the only thing i dont like about him is i've seen him be a fair weather friend to a lot of people over a very long time. just like frank linhares. i dont like people like that because i myself am a very good friend.

    --- Renegade v1.30r2/Exp
    * Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.rgbbs.info (25:25/0)
  • From Mro@25:25/0 to Atreyu on Wed Mar 2 04:13:52 2022
    Nobody ever got teary-eyed for the Sysop that died in his apartment bathtub one day. But his rent and bills were on auto-withdrawl from a bank account funded with his likewise auto-deposited monthly disability income.

    Everything ran on auto-pilot even when the neighbors finally complained abo the smell and had the cops bust down the door. Everything ran during the time the next-of-kin finally showed up to discover to their horror that thi


    bbs people are parasitic pieces of shit usually. they take and they dont give back. nobody cared when eli died or when thorny died. i wish i could have helped thorny and sent him the medication he needed. i was going through some crazy shit with my ex and i had no time for anything. he mentioned he had a horrible toothache and then he was gone.

    eli's 'friends' just kept on going and didnt give a shit that he died. they were worried about their shit wwiv project.

    --- Renegade v1.30r2/Exp
    * Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.rgbbs.info (25:25/0)
  • From Mro@25:25/0 to Paulie420 on Wed Mar 2 04:15:58 2022
    You can just pull up the editor commands by typing "/" while editing a mess and toggle taglines off.

    Furthermore, sysops can choose whether to use taglines system-wide in the B configs. They can be set to toggle on/off on DEFAULT for users, and users c set that themselves - but I wish there were a toggle in the Account Setting Menu, too.

    i dont have that
    Full Screen Editor [(?)Help]: ?


    Press ENTER to get a blank line and press /
    and one of the following command keys.

    (<CR>)Continue message
    (A)bort message (C)lear message
    (F)ile attach (M)CI codes Yes/No
    (Q)uote message (S)ave message
    (T)itle change (U)pload message


    Full Screen Editor [(?)Help]:
    set that themselves - but I wish there were a toggle in the Account Setting Menu, too.

    ...

    Oh wait; thats on Mystic. :/

    ew mystic.

    ... Of course I turned, I hit you didn't I?

    --- Renegade v1.30r2/Exp
    * Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.rgbbs.info (25:25/0)
  • From Mro@25:25/0 to Lux on Wed Mar 2 04:16:50 2022
    |03Quoting message from |11Lux |03to |11Mro
    |03on |1128 Feb 22 20:02:21|03.

    i called his bbs and his login matrix looks like shit and i keep disconnecting.

    https://i.imgur.com/h7XtnRU.png
    See I like that.

    i cant stay connected longer than 5 seconds.

    Thats done on purpose (for now)
    You select a selection before the timer runs out.

    Its really not read yet, its just up so a select group can do testing.
    You can also beta test on your linux box, got a good bit of it functioning already.


    oh, so it's like a bbs designed to sharpen your mind and tactical skills.

    ... Relativity all depends on how you look at it.

    --- Renegade v1.30r2/Exp
    * Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.rgbbs.info (25:25/0)
  • From Mro@25:25/0 to Lux on Wed Mar 2 04:17:27 2022
    |03Quoting message from |11Lux |03to |11Mro
    |03on |1128 Feb 22 20:13:14|03.

    not that it matters now, because we have no users.

    Whatever we literally have the coolest fuckin people here ever.


    that's just me. what about everybody else.

    ... Honk if you like obscene gestures!

    --- Renegade v1.30r2/Exp
    * Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.rgbbs.info (25:25/0)
  • From Mro@25:25/0 to Lux on Wed Mar 2 04:18:06 2022
    |03Quoting message from |11Lux |03to |11Mro
    |03on |1128 Feb 22 20:16:59|03.

    i'd like to see renegade go back to 5-11.

    Running at port 1337

    i'm not happy with the changes lee palmer made.

    ok

    what annoys me now is this tagline stuff. is there a way to turn off the taglines so it doesnt ask me everytime? no clue.

    Actually you can do better then that..
    Its actually allows the op to select what bases you want to allow taglines

    Being op you must answer two questions
    Tagline?
    Post anonymous?



    i'm not talking about when i'm an operator. i'm talking about when i call other bbses.

    and taglines are so fucking lame. i hate them

    ... What?!? DOSSHELL *isn't* supposed to be a joke?

    --- Renegade v1.30r2/Exp
    * Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.rgbbs.info (25:25/0)
  • From Lux@25:25/22 to Exodus on Wed Mar 2 16:55:56 2022
    It's set per base. I'll have to look to see how hard it would be to make "per user" .... It's either ON or OFF per base right now. I don't even p it attention anymore. I just hit ENTER ENTER. ;)

    At this point its all muscule memory I could login and newscan with my eyes closed.

    ... Would all ghouls in the audience please raise their talons?

    --- Renegade v1.18a
    * Origin: Physics bulletinboard.systems 16BIT! (25:25/22)
  • From Lux@25:25/22 to Mro on Thu Mar 3 16:48:43 2022
    back. nobody cared when eli died or when thorny died. i wish i could hav

    I cared when Eli died, I didn't know Thorny very well.

    ... Paused: enter any 12-digit prime number to continue

    --- Renegade v1.18a
    * Origin: Physics bulletinboard.systems 16BIT! (25:25/22)
  • From Lux@25:25/22 to Mro on Thu Mar 3 16:49:32 2022
    oh, so it's like a bbs designed to sharpen your mind and tactical skills.

    YES! and kill bots

    ... I do a weekly format In case I accidently backup c drive.

    --- Renegade v1.18a
    * Origin: Physics bulletinboard.systems 16BIT! (25:25/22)
  • From Lux@25:25/22 to Mro on Thu Mar 3 16:50:06 2022
    Whatever we literally have the coolest fuckin people here ever.


    that's just me. what about everybody else.


    HA!

    ... Don't confuse me with facts.

    --- Renegade v1.18a
    * Origin: Physics bulletinboard.systems 16BIT! (25:25/22)
  • From Lux@25:25/22 to Mro on Thu Mar 3 16:53:22 2022
    i'm not talking about when i'm an operator. i'm talking about when i call other bbses.

    Why, we operators don't care about you BBSers ;)
    I remember back in the mid 90's every other board had a real prick for a operator. Guess you could do that when you needed to use their board to get your warez.

    ... I like to leave messages *before* the beep.

    --- Renegade v1.18a
    * Origin: Physics bulletinboard.systems 16BIT! (25:25/22)
  • From Lux@25:25/5 to Atreyu on Sat Mar 5 13:41:33 2022
    The first tend to be normal. Normally social, outgoing, fun to hang out with

    The second tend to be sooooooooo insufferable, no social skills, usually ve

    Guess which runs Windows and which runs Linux...

    OH man totaly overlooked this message before :D
    So what about those strange System Operators that insist on still running
    only on DOS or OS/2? ;)

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (25:25/5)
  • From Atreyu@25:25/5 to Lux on Sat Mar 5 20:14:21 2022
    On 5 Mar 22 13:41, Lux said the following to Atreyu:

    OH man totaly overlooked this message before :D
    So what about those strange System Operators that insist on still running only on DOS or OS/2? ;)

    Since we never really hear from them, they don't need to be assigned a label.

    Atreyu

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (25:25/5)
  • From Atreyu@25:25/5 to Lux on Sat Mar 5 20:15:01 2022
    On 03 Mar 22 16:53:22, Lux said the following to Mro:

    i'm not talking about when i'm an operator. i'm talking about when i call other bbses.

    Why, we operators don't care about you BBSers ;)
    I remember back in the mid 90's every other board had a real prick for a operator. Guess you could do that when you needed to use their board to get your warez.

    The NC of Net 252 wanted to call you "voice" to verify that you understood network policy before joining.

    Atreyu

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (25:25/5)
  • From Atreyu@25:25/5 to Mro on Sat Mar 5 20:16:27 2022
    On 02 Mar 22 04:13:52, Mro said the following to Atreyu:

    bbs people are parasitic pieces of shit usually. they take and they dont giv

    To each his own I guess. BBS people paid for a LOT of my tech stuff in the early 90's. Even the annoying ones paid the subscription.

    Atreyu

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (25:25/5)
  • From Lux@25:25/22 to Atreyu on Sat Mar 5 20:31:10 2022
    The NC of Net 252 wanted to call you "voice" to verify that you understood network policy before joining.

    So cool, had only one or two calls from a sysop to verify, that was when
    those autoverify bots were popular.

    ... Oh, I'm sorry, were the voices in my head bothering you?

    --- Renegade v1.18a
    * Origin: Physics bulletinboard.systems 16BIT! (25:25/22)
  • From Atreyu@25:25/5 to Lux on Sun Mar 6 01:49:23 2022
    On 05 Mar 22 20:31:10, Lux said the following to Atreyu:

    The NC of Net 252 wanted to call you "voice" to verify that you understood network policy before joining.

    So cool, had only one or two calls from a sysop to verify, that was when those autoverify bots were popular.

    I remember those... call back verifiers....

    Atreyu

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (25:25/5)
  • From Lux@25:25/22 to Atreyu on Sun Mar 6 20:40:26 2022
    I remember those... call back verifiers....

    Yep, I think they worked, I can't really remember what they did or how they worked but they were on almost every board right before the 1999 BBS endgame.

    ... What garlic is to salad, insanity is to art.

    --- Renegade v1.18a
    * Origin: Physics bulletinboard.systems 16BIT! (25:25/22)
  • From Jas Hud@25:25/22 to Atreyu on Mon Mar 7 02:19:09 2022
    |03Quoting message from |11Atreyu |03to |11Mro
    |03on |1105 Mar 22 20:16:27|03.

    On 02 Mar 22 04:13:52, Mro said the following to Atreyu:

    bbs people are parasitic pieces of shit usually. they take and they dont gi

    To each his own I guess. BBS people paid for a LOT of my tech stuff in the early 90's. Even the annoying ones paid the subscription.


    i never heard of your stuff until the telnet age.

    ... The ox is slow, but the Earth is patient.

    --- Renegade v1.18a
    * Origin: Physics bulletinboard.systems 16BIT! (25:25/22)
  • From Jas Hud@25:25/22 to Lux on Mon Mar 7 02:19:42 2022
    |03Quoting message from |11Lux |03to |11Atreyu
    |03on |116 Mar 22 20:40|03.


    I remember those... call back verifiers....

    Yep, I think they worked, I can't really remember what they did or how they worked but they were on almost every board right before the 1999 BBS endgam



    i only saw one and i thought it was pretty cool

    ... I was gonna be a barber but neurosurgery pays better.

    --- Renegade v1.18a
    * Origin: Physics bulletinboard.systems 16BIT! (25:25/22)
  • From Atreyu@25:25/5 to Lux on Mon Mar 7 08:21:29 2022
    On 06 Mar 22 20:40:26, Lux said the following to Atreyu:

    I remember those... call back verifiers....

    Yep, I think they worked, I can't really remember what they did or how they worked but they were on almost every board right before the 1999 BBS endgame

    I think I looked at installing on a long time ago in the beginning of my board but decided against it for some reason.

    Atreyu

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (25:25/5)
  • From Atreyu@25:25/5 to Jas Hud on Mon Mar 7 08:57:47 2022
    On 07 Mar 22 02:19:09, Jas Hud said the following to Atreyu:

    bbs people are parasitic pieces of shit usually. they take and they dont gi

    To each his own I guess. BBS people paid for a LOT of my tech stuff in the early 90's. Even the annoying ones paid the subscription.

    i never heard of your stuff until the telnet age.

    I've never heard of a "Jas hud" until a few years ago but not here for a penis comparison contest. Names don't impress me and shouldn't impress others.

    All I know is that of the few things I've read, you've taken it upon yourself to insult someone who wrote BBS software. Either you have written your own and are proud of your stuff, or your name is really Rob Swindell, or you just seem to have a way about you that seems.... negative. Anyhow, doesn't matter.

    To be on topic about BBS people... In 94 had enough subscribers to pay for
    the phone lines which averaged over a hundred calls a day, was published in
    an article about BBS'ing in a local rag, paid for my own modems, a hard drive upgrade at one time and license keys for several utils and doorgames. Had a paid UUCP connection to an ISP in Toronto for newfangled Internet email and another connection in Montreal for Usenet groups.

    This was all on Renegade... endured some who laughed in my face and told me it sucked or it "wouldn't last" Lol, those "eleet" Sysops? Long gone now...

    The annoying ones I spoke of... these are the ones who trolled me day and night about not having enough files. You need more files. Need more doors, Lord needs more turns, I got killed can you resurrect my character etc etc... yes, some of them subscribed.

    The phone lines used to get slammed at midnight from people calling to play their game turns. This caused all sorts of problems with some games file-sharing and record locking that I had to babysit sometimes or write an elaborate series of OS/2 batch files and scripting to manage this.

    Then theres all the Fido crap, hubbing mail, destroying Dave Vandermeer or Timelord or whatever his name was on Xpressitnet, first running into RGSNet
    and Exodus (I think thats where we met at the time), STN, some others. Which I paid for the long-distance dialup modem calls to the 'states to exchange packets. I paid the long distance bill myself. About an extra $100 a month.

    Was doing all this at..... Pffffft 15 years old I think... while others in the neighborhood were busy bumming weed and playing Nintendo.

    Did I mention there was no hand-holding in the 90's... nothing to google, no Sysops I could bug to have them hold my hand to fix things. Had to figure all the shit out on my own. Or risk losing users, paying subscribers.

    I didn't get into telnet till around '01 and thats around the time I made the switch from OS/2 to Windows 2000. One summer night, said goodbye to OS/2 forever and never looked back.

    I don't call other boards except for Exodus, and don't care about what others think of me or my "creds" or whatever. Too busy doing my own shit.

    Atreyu

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (25:25/5)
  • From Exodus@25:25/0 to Atreyu on Mon Mar 7 16:30:49 2022
    are proud of your stuff, or your name is really Rob Swindell, or you just s
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


    HSHAHHAHAHAH ... I just spit my drink.

    ... No cute, furry animals killed to make this tagline.

    --- Renegade v1.30r2/Exp
    * Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.rgbbs.info (25:25/0)
  • From lux@25:25/10 to Atreyu on Wed Mar 9 02:38:51 2022
    This was all on Renegade... endured some who laughed in my face and told me it sucked or it "wouldn't last" Lol, those "eleet" Sysops? Long gone now...

    And that same Renegade and batch scripts etc all running today as it was in
    the 90's My board was not at all as popular but after making the switch from Iniquity to Renegade I have never seen another issue from software. Lots of hardware fails. But thats what you get when you run old hardware 24/7 up until recently RG has been running on 5-15 year old hardware.

    I am thankful I never had to deal with record locking (exept that old clunky out of date mailer I was using before ;)

    Did I mention there was no hand-holding in the 90's... nothing to
    google, no Sysops I could bug to have them hold my hand to fix things.

    Thankful we got that now, I would have been pretty stuck without help the
    other day. BBS stuff is still hard to "Google" but if you know how to use the search function you can find information from within some of the boards.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Compufuck | Binghamton, NY | compufuck.xyz (25:25/10)
  • From Lux@25:25/22 to Atreyu on Tue Mar 8 21:03:16 2022
    Timelord or whatever his name was on Xpressitnet,

    Time Warrior?

    ... To quote the Librarian at Unseen University, "Oook!"

    --- Renegade v1.18a
    * Origin: Physics bulletinboard.systems 16BIT! (25:25/22)
  • From Atreyu@25:25/5 to Lux on Wed Mar 9 08:24:37 2022
    On 09 Mar 22 02:38:51, Lux said the following to Atreyu:

    And that same Renegade and batch scripts etc all running today as it was in the 90's My board was not at all as popular but after making the switch from Iniquity to Renegade I have never seen another issue from software. Lots of hardware fails. But thats what you get when you run old hardware 24/7 up unt recently RG has been running on 5-15 year old hardware.

    My current setup runs on 15 year old hardware with no problem (yet)... I think the power supplies/capacitors are the biggest problems. Drives being second.

    I won an auction for the exact Tandy 1000 I had in '89/'90... it is VERY tempting to move everything back to that old gal.

    Thankful we got that now, I would have been pretty stuck without help the other day. BBS stuff is still hard to "Google" but if you know how to use th search function you can find information from within some of the boards.

    Sometimes there are RG questions that pop-up in here from time to time. I don't mind answering those but when its repeated requests for hand-holding
    its a bit annoying. Its like people are spoiled by the Internet now and are so used to Googling how to tie their shoes.

    Whats annoying is someone doing something with RG, failing at it, then giving either an attitude because it doesn't work right on Linux or its a "bug"....

    Atreyu

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (25:25/5)
  • From Atreyu@25:25/5 to Lux on Wed Mar 9 08:24:45 2022
    On 08 Mar 22 21:03:16, Lux said the following to Atreyu:

    Timelord or whatever his name was on Xpressitnet,

    Time Warrior?

    YES. Him.

    And lets never mention that name again.

    Atreyu

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (25:25/5)
  • From Jas Hud@25:25/22 to Atreyu on Wed Mar 9 08:18:35 2022
    |03Quoting message from |11Atreyu |03to |11Lux
    |03on |1107 Mar 22 08:21:29|03.

    On 06 Mar 22 20:40:26, Lux said the following to Atreyu:

    I remember those... call back verifiers....

    Yep, I think they worked, I can't really remember what they did or how they worked but they were on almost every board right before the 1999 BBS endgam

    I think I looked at installing on a long time ago in the beginning of my bo but decided against it for some reason.


    i thought it was cool the last time i saw it.
    the bbs called you and then you connected that way.
    that was pretty neat.

    ... Things you never hear people say: Please saw my leg off.

    --- Renegade v1.18a
    * Origin: Physics bulletinboard.systems 16BIT! (25:25/22)
  • From Jas Hud@25:25/22 to Atreyu on Wed Mar 9 08:22:11 2022
    i never heard of your stuff until the telnet age.

    I've never heard of a "Jas hud" until a few years ago but not here for a pe comparison contest. Names don't impress me and shouldn't impress others.


    i've been active in the telnet age for over 20 years.

    i dont know why you take offense at my remark and think we are comparing penises. dbridge want popular in my region.

    rg has weird editing so up there was going to write that i have been bbsing since like 93. i was active in fidonet and all that junk.
    i'm not saying i'm a celebrity but you've seen me, i'm sure.



    I don't call other boards except for Exodus, and don't care about what othe think of me or my "creds" or whatever. Too busy doing my own shit.



    sorry i hurt your feelings fella.

    ... Back from the shadows again ...

    --- Renegade v1.18a
    * Origin: Physics bulletinboard.systems 16BIT! (25:25/22)
  • From Jas Hud@25:25/22 to Exodus on Wed Mar 9 08:24:31 2022
    |03Quoting message from |11Exodus |03to |11Atreyu
    |03on |1107 Mar 22 16:30:49|03.

    are proud of your stuff, or your name is really Rob Swindell, or you just s
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


    HSHAHHAHAHAH ... I just spit my drink.



    actually here's a secret. rob loves me.
    i have no filter. i have pissed him off, though.

    the only thing i'm proud of is my hard work. but now that all the users are gone and only the lame people are left it doesn't matter. i was the hardest working guy in bbsing for like 18 years or so.

    i tried to get people back into bbsing, i was intergrating new shit into bbsing, i tried everything. i had that torrent site where these dumbasses would download the same like 180 gigs over and over again because they forgot where they put the files.

    anyways, what was a saying. bbs people are fucking lame.

    ... If at first you don't succeed, that means you're average.

    --- Renegade v1.18a
    * Origin: Physics bulletinboard.systems 16BIT! (25:25/22)
  • From Jas Hud@25:25/22 to Lux on Wed Mar 9 08:26:27 2022
    |03Quoting message from |11Lux |03to |11Atreyu
    |03on |118 Mar 22 21:03|03.

    Timelord or whatever his name was on Xpressitnet,

    Time Warrior?


    time loser
    i see he hasnt posted youtube videos for a year. i wonder if he died.

    ... I put hard wood floors over carpeting.

    --- Renegade v1.18a
    * Origin: Physics bulletinboard.systems 16BIT! (25:25/22)
  • From Jas Hud@25:25/22 to Lux on Wed Mar 9 08:27:22 2022
    hardware fails. But thats what you get when you run old hardware 24/7 up un recently RG has been running on 5-15 year old hardware.

    I am thankful I never had to deal with record locking (exept that old clunk out of date mailer I was using before ;)

    what mailer were you using

    ... That's stronger than a garlic milkshake.

    --- Renegade v1.18a
    * Origin: Physics bulletinboard.systems 16BIT! (25:25/22)
  • From Atreyu@25:25/5 to Jas Hud on Wed Mar 9 12:04:21 2022
    On 09 Mar 22 08:26:27, Jas Hud said the following to Lux:

    Timelord or whatever his name was on Xpressitnet,

    Time Warrior?

    time loser
    i see he hasnt posted youtube videos for a year. i wonder if he died.

    I wasn't even aware he was doing that...

    Atreyu

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (25:25/5)
  • From Atreyu@25:25/5 to Jas Hud on Wed Mar 9 12:05:30 2022
    On 09 Mar 22 08:22:11, Jas Hud said the following to Atreyu:

    i've been active in the telnet age for over 20 years.

    i dont know why you take offense at my remark and think we are comparing penises. dbridge want popular in my region.

    I'm not offended by your remarks. I'm not offended by anyone.

    I don't call other boards except for Exodus, and don't care about what othe think of me or my "creds" or whatever. Too busy doing my own shit.

    sorry i hurt your feelings fella.

    ?? Uhh, you didn't, not sure where that came from.

    I just don't call other boards except for his and even that's not often.

    Atreyu

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (25:25/5)
  • From Jas Hud@25:25/22 to Atreyu on Wed Mar 9 10:48:46 2022

    Sometimes there are RG questions that pop-up in here from time to time. I don't mind answering those but when its repeated requests for hand-holding its a bit annoying. Its like people are spoiled by the Internet now and are used to Googling how to tie their shoes.

    Whats annoying is someone doing something with RG, failing at it, then givi either an attitude because it doesn't work right on Linux or its a "bug"...



    well rg is a big of a mess, you have to admit that. i still think it has a great interface for the user side, aside from the file areas.

    bbs stuff is old and i dont blame people for having problems. there's a learning curve. not many people have the time for the attention span to
    bother getting things working.

    ... I'm really imprinted with the quality of this conference.

    --- Renegade v1.18a
    * Origin: Physics bulletinboard.systems 16BIT! (25:25/22)
  • From Jas Hud@25:25/22 to Atreyu on Wed Mar 9 10:51:57 2022
    |03Quoting message from |11Atreyu |03to |11Lux
    |03on |1109 Mar 22 08:24:45|03.

    On 08 Mar 22 21:03:16, Lux said the following to Atreyu:

    Timelord or whatever his name was on Xpressitnet,

    Time Warrior?

    YES. Him.

    And lets never mention that name again.

    Atreyu

    time warrior and jokester.
    good times.

    i really do wonder if he's dead. i can't find anything recent on him.
    i know he doesn't work. he lived off his dad. his dad is old.


    god dammit. he's alive
    https://i.imgur.com/O8wMdG5.png https://www.bitchute.com/video/lsiV7POADn5M/?fbclid=IwAR3rt9R6gxHbyLSxzJbPkxaK 54_ko-GhmKaXbnhOauYlXC3LCzXxN3ApFYI

    ... Congress's road to h*ll is now a 4 lane highway

    --- Renegade v1.18a
    * Origin: Physics bulletinboard.systems 16BIT! (25:25/22)
  • From Atreyu@25:25/5 to Jas Hud on Wed Mar 9 14:35:42 2022
    On 09 Mar 22 10:48:46, Jas Hud said the following to Atreyu:

    well rg is a big of a mess, you have to admit that. i still think it has great interface for the user side, aside from the file areas.

    The code actually isn't that bad compared to some others I've seen.

    bbs stuff is old and i dont blame people for having problems. there's a learning curve. not many people have the time for the attention span to bother getting things working.

    I explained it the best I could. Internet took the fun out of everything.

    Atreyu

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (25:25/5)
  • From Atreyu@25:25/5 to Jas Hud on Wed Mar 9 14:36:31 2022
    On 09 Mar 22 10:51:57, Jas Hud said the following to Atreyu:

    time warrior and jokester.
    good times.

    i really do wonder if he's dead. i can't find anything recent on him.
    i know he doesn't work. he lived off his dad. his dad is old.

    I don't wonder at all.

    Atreyu

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (25:25/5)
  • From Exodus@25:25/0 to Jas Hud on Wed Mar 9 16:21:58 2022
    actually here's a secret. rob loves me.
    i have no filter. i have pissed him off, though.

    the only thing i'm proud of is my hard work. but now that all the users ar gone and only the lame people are left it doesn't matter. i was the hard


    That reminds me, let him know I put a work around so that dupes don't get tossed back into DOVE, so he can turn off the blocker. Only downside is I can only poll for mail once a day, but it works. ;)

    ... Reality is an obstacle to hallucination.

    --- Renegade v1.30r2/Exp
    * Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.rgbbs.info (25:25/0)
  • From Exodus@25:25/0 to Jas Hud on Wed Mar 9 16:22:36 2022
    I am thankful I never had to deal with record locking (exept that old clunk out of date mailer I was using before ;)

    what mailer were you using

    I'm guessing Portal of Power. ;)

    ... The earth is like a tiny grain of sand, only heavier

    --- Renegade v1.30r2/Exp
    * Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.rgbbs.info (25:25/0)
  • From lux@25:1/104 to Atreyu on Wed Mar 9 20:55:38 2022
    My current setup runs on 15 year old hardware with no problem (yet)... I think the power supplies/capacitors are the biggest problems. Drives
    being second.

    I won an auction for the exact Tandy 1000 I had in '89/'90... it is VERY tempting to move everything back to that old gal.

    If you end up running the Tandy 1000 24/7 I would highly suggest a modern power supply. Too many old machines have been lost to bad caps in the power supply. RIP to both long time runners the Celeron300a machine and the CoreDuo DELL Jas shipped me when I had no BBS machine. Both died from cap failure in the power supply.

    Sometimes there are RG questions that pop-up in here from time to time.
    I don't mind answering those but when its repeated requests for hand-holding its a bit annoying. Its like people are spoiled by the Internet now and are so used to Googling how to tie their shoes.

    I try and read the manual before asking someone that knows already.
    Manuals are great, for something like Renegade a install guide would be helpful, or would it since there is so many different ways to run Renegade you would want it to cover many bases and we are then back to the full manual.

    ... Have the boy sent to the bridge. - Picard

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: 2o fOr beeRS bbS >> 20ForBeers.com:1337 (25:1/104)
  • From lux@25:1/104 to Atreyu on Wed Mar 9 20:56:47 2022
    YES. Him.

    And lets never mention that name again.

    Done. :)
    I remember, I caught the tail of that.

    ... A temper is a valuable possession; don't lose it

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: 2o fOr beeRS bbS >> 20ForBeers.com:1337 (25:1/104)
  • From lux@25:1/104 to Jas Hud on Wed Mar 9 20:58:43 2022
    i thought it was cool the last time i saw it.
    the bbs called you and then you connected that way.
    that was pretty neat.

    Yeah that was it, I remember now it was just getting your modem to answer I guess by hitting Terminal mode and typing ATA when the phone rang?

    ... Do not try to live forever. You will not succeed.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: 2o fOr beeRS bbS >> 20ForBeers.com:1337 (25:1/104)
  • From lux@25:1/104 to Jas Hud on Wed Mar 9 21:01:33 2022
    i see he hasnt posted youtube videos for a year. i wonder if he died.


    Maybe that was Cheeseburger 8)

    ... All hope abandon, ye who enter messages here.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: 2o fOr beeRS bbS >> 20ForBeers.com:1337 (25:1/104)
  • From lux@25:1/104 to Jas Hud on Wed Mar 9 21:09:43 2022
    out of date mailer I was using before ;)

    what mailer were you using

    That would have been IREX. Nothing against it it did things for years flawlessly, just that since using d'b learned a ton and have a much better view of whats going on at all times. Also can't wait to try out the features with y2ka2 Can you imagine having to setup every FIDO echo manually in RG!

    ... APPLE: It may be slow, but at least it's expensive.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: 2o fOr beeRS bbS >> 20ForBeers.com:1337 (25:1/104)
  • From lux@25:1/104 to Atreyu on Wed Mar 9 21:12:05 2022
    I just don't call other boards except for his and even that's not often.


    Lies, you know you like to idle on the old citadels :D
    Its just under a different name like N/A or something..

    ... In which level of metalanguage are you now speaking?

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: 2o fOr beeRS bbS >> 20ForBeers.com:1337 (25:1/104)
  • From lux@25:1/104 to Jas Hud on Wed Mar 9 21:14:46 2022
    god dammit. he's alive
    https://i.imgur.com/O8wMdG5.png

    Why is that img horrifying?
    YOU AINT SEEN NOTHING YET.

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/lsiV7POADn5M/?fbclid=IwAR3rt9R6gxHbyLSxzJbP
    54_ko-GhmKaXbnhOauYlXC3LCzXxN3ApFYI

    I do like the message here, interesting enough he seems to be talking about BBSes there. he looks to be younger then me in this video, that would make him a teenager back in the early 2000's Maybe he's learned a thing or two?

    ... You.... in the back row. Stop laughing or leave the room!

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: 2o fOr beeRS bbS >> 20ForBeers.com:1337 (25:1/104)
  • From Jas Hud@25:25/22 to Atreyu on Wed Mar 9 23:06:30 2022
    |03Quoting message from |11Atreyu |03to |11Jas Hud
    |03on |1109 Mar 22 12:04:21|03.

    On 09 Mar 22 08:26:27, Jas Hud said the following to Lux:

    Timelord or whatever his name was on Xpressitnet,

    Time Warrior?

    time loser
    i see he hasnt posted youtube videos for a year. i wonder if he died.

    I wasn't even aware he was doing that...

    oh god he was posting shit every day. now he's on bitcute doing it.
    he would video his neighbor and all kinds of crazy shit.
    he still isnt working so he has a ton of free time.

    ... Egad, I believe I've blown another synapse. -SLR

    --- Renegade v1.18a
    * Origin: Physics bulletinboard.systems 16BIT! (25:25/22)
  • From Jas Hud@25:25/22 to Atreyu on Wed Mar 9 23:07:05 2022
    |03Quoting message from |11Atreyu |03to |11Jas Hud
    |03on |1109 Mar 22 12:05:30|03.

    On 09 Mar 22 08:22:11, Jas Hud said the following to Atreyu:

    i've been active in the telnet age for over 20 years.

    i dont know why you take offense at my remark and think we are comparing penises. dbridge want popular in my region.

    I'm not offended by your remarks. I'm not offended by anyone.

    that's good to hear.
    people get offended too easy.

    ... We've broken the space-time continuum and passed the savings on to you!

    --- Renegade v1.18a
    * Origin: Physics bulletinboard.systems 16BIT! (25:25/22)
  • From Jas Hud@25:25/22 to Atreyu on Wed Mar 9 23:09:03 2022
    |03Quoting message from |11Atreyu |03to |11Jas Hud
    |03on |1109 Mar 22 14:35:42|03.

    On 09 Mar 22 10:48:46, Jas Hud said the following to Atreyu:

    well rg is a big of a mess, you have to admit that. i still think it has great interface for the user side, aside from the file areas.

    The code actually isn't that bad compared to some others I've seen.


    yeah but that's not saying much. most of these softwares were made by
    hobbyist programmers.

    i just dont like the changes post cott lang

    I explained it the best I could. Internet took the fun out of everything.


    i think the internet added fun. but you got everyone on the internet
    including their grandma and then it became a growing, neverending shit hole

    ... Fight crime....shoot back

    --- Renegade v1.18a
    * Origin: Physics bulletinboard.systems 16BIT! (25:25/22)
  • From Jas Hud@25:25/22 to Atreyu on Wed Mar 9 23:09:39 2022
    |03Quoting message from |11Atreyu |03to |11Jas Hud
    |03on |1109 Mar 22 14:36:31|03.

    On 09 Mar 22 10:51:57, Jas Hud said the following to Atreyu:

    time warrior and jokester.
    good times.

    i really do wonder if he's dead. i can't find anything recent on him.
    i know he doesn't work. he lived off his dad. his dad is old.

    I don't wonder at all.

    Atreyu

    i'll msg him and tell him you miss him.
    maybe he can talk to you on the phone for 3 hrs.

    ... Things are never so bad that they can't get worse.

    --- Renegade v1.18a
    * Origin: Physics bulletinboard.systems 16BIT! (25:25/22)
  • From Jas Hud@25:25/22 to Exodus on Wed Mar 9 23:10:56 2022
    |03Quoting message from |11Exodus |03to |11Jas Hud
    |03on |1109 Mar 22 16:21:58|03.

    actually here's a secret. rob loves me.
    i have no filter. i have pissed him off, though.

    the only thing i'm proud of is my hard work. but now that all the users ar gone and only the lame people are left it doesn't matter. i was the hard


    That reminds me, let him know I put a work around so that dupes don't get tossed back into DOVE, so he can turn off the blocker. Only downside is I only poll for mail once a day, but it works. ;)


    well he's going to want you to email him.
    it's probably rob@synchro.net
    then he can watch and see what happens.

    seriously though robert wolfe did much much much worse, many many many times. he takes the cake with the flooding.

    ... Always remember where you came from so you can return.

    --- Renegade v1.18a
    * Origin: Physics bulletinboard.systems 16BIT! (25:25/22)
  • From Exodus@25:25/0 to Lux on Thu Mar 10 05:57:33 2022
    with y2ka2 Can you imagine having to setup every FIDO echo manually in RG!

    Yeah, I did.

    ... My mistakes are purely erroneous.

    --- Renegade v1.30r2/Exp
    * Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.rgbbs.info (25:25/0)
  • From Atreyu@25:25/5 to Lux on Thu Mar 10 06:52:28 2022
    On 09 Mar 22 20:55:38, Lux said the following to Atreyu:

    If you end up running the Tandy 1000 24/7 I would highly suggest a modern power supply. Too many old machines have been lost to bad caps in the power supply. RIP to both long time runners the Celeron300a machine and the CoreDu DELL Jas shipped me when I had no BBS machine. Both died from cap failure in the power supply.

    I'm not sure what I'll do with it because there's no freaking way its going to handle the traffic of BinkD or telnet bots... 8mhz @ 10 megabit Lan?

    Atreyu

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (25:25/5)
  • From Atreyu@25:25/5 to Lux on Thu Mar 10 06:53:06 2022
    On 09 Mar 22 21:12:05, Lux said the following to Atreyu:

    I just don't call other boards except for his and even that's not often


    Lies, you know you like to idle on the old citadels :D
    Its just under a different name like N/A or something..

    Next you'll tell me to call a Wildcrap board...

    Atreyu

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (25:25/5)
  • From Atreyu@25:25/5 to Jas Hud on Thu Mar 10 06:54:53 2022
    On 09 Mar 22 23:06:30, Jas Hud said the following to Atreyu:

    oh god he was posting shit every day. now he's on bitcute doing it.
    he would video his neighbor and all kinds of crazy shit.
    he still isnt working so he has a ton of free time.

    He seems like the type to contribute to the stupidity of Internet culture...

    Atreyu

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (25:25/5)
  • From Atreyu@25:25/5 to Jas Hud on Thu Mar 10 07:01:42 2022
    On 09 Mar 22 23:09:03, Jas Hud said the following to Atreyu:

    The code actually isn't that bad compared to some others I've seen.

    yeah but that's not saying much. most of these softwares were made by hobbyist programmers.

    Oh it does say much that I'd rather deal with RG's code versus some fucking convoluted Oracle fuckery clumsy mess that is this one ERP database I work with in my dayjob.

    i just dont like the changes post cott lang

    I don't like changes past Y2KA2 because of the sacrifice of allllll the cool Rg mod's and utils in favour of saving a few bytes that nobody really cared.

    Atreyu

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (25:25/5)
  • From Atreyu@25:25/5 to Jas Hud on Thu Mar 10 07:01:54 2022
    On 09 Mar 22 23:09:39, Jas Hud said the following to Atreyu:

    i'll msg him and tell him you miss him.
    maybe he can talk to you on the phone for 3 hrs.

    No thanks.

    Atreyu

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (25:25/5)
  • From Atreyu@25:25/5 to Jas Hud on Thu Mar 10 07:04:22 2022
    On 09 Mar 22 23:10:56, Jas Hud said the following to Exodus:

    seriously though robert wolfe did much much much worse, many many many time he takes the cake with the flooding.

    He would change BBS software like underwear... every day it seemed he ran something different.

    Almost all flooding of old msgs in Fido is from Synchronet systems. Every couple of years this still happens. Every. Single. Time. Its that bloated overrated fucking Synchronet.

    But of course... its never Synchronet's fault, its always "the settings".

    Its like playing video games and always loosing, well it must be the controllers.

    Atreyu

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (25:25/5)
  • From Jas Hud@25:25/22 to Lux on Fri Mar 11 19:21:27 2022
    If you end up running the Tandy 1000 24/7 I would highly suggest a modern power supply. Too many old machines have been lost to bad caps in the power supply. RIP to both long time runners the Celeron300a machine and the CoreD DELL Jas shipped me when I had no BBS machine. Both died from cap failure i the power supply.

    did you buy a new power supply?

    ... Horn broke...watch for finger.

    --- Renegade v1.18a
    * Origin: Physics bulletinboard.systems 16BIT! (25:25/22)
  • From Jas Hud@25:25/22 to Lux on Fri Mar 11 19:22:20 2022
    |03Quoting message from |11Lux |03to |11Jas Hud
    |03on |1109 Mar 22 21:01:33|03.

    i see he hasnt posted youtube videos for a year. i wonder if he died.


    Maybe that was Cheeseburger 8)


    you solved the riddle.

    ... Reality Is An Illusion Caused By Lack Of Acid

    --- Renegade v1.18a
    * Origin: Physics bulletinboard.systems 16BIT! (25:25/22)
  • From Jas Hud@25:25/22 to Lux on Fri Mar 11 19:23:16 2022
    |03Quoting message from |11Lux |03to |11Jas Hud
    |03on |1109 Mar 22 21:09:43|03.

    out of date mailer I was using before ;)

    what mailer were you using

    That would have been IREX. Nothing against it it did things for years flawlessly, just that since using d'b learned a ton and have a much better view of whats going on at all times. Also can't wait to try out the feature with y2ka2 Can you imagine having to setup every FIDO echo manually in RG!

    ... APPLE: It may be slow, but at least it's expensive.

    oh man i loved irex. graveyard was using it fine.

    ... If wishes were horses, beggars would be shoveling manure.

    --- Renegade v1.18a
    * Origin: Physics bulletinboard.systems 16BIT! (25:25/22)
  • From Jas Hud@25:25/22 to Lux on Fri Mar 11 19:24:12 2022
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/lsiV7POADn5M/?fbclid=Iw
    R3rt9R6gxHbyLSxzJbP
    54_ko-GhmKaXbnhOauYlXC3LCzXxN3ApFYI

    I do like the message here, interesting enough he seems to be talking about BBSes there. he looks to be younger then me in this video, that would make a teenager back in the early 2000's Maybe he's learned a thing or two?



    he's not young. he just has no hair and no teeth.
    maybe you are confusing him for a baby

    ... Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's tagline.

    --- Renegade v1.18a
    * Origin: Physics bulletinboard.systems 16BIT! (25:25/22)
  • From Jas Hud@25:25/22 to Atreyu on Fri Mar 11 19:28:58 2022
    I don't like changes past Y2KA2 because of the sacrifice of allllll the coo Rg mod's and utils in favour of saving a few bytes that nobody really cared



    yeah that was a huge loss. filedude was so great. and you could just zip up some ansi screens and a .mnu file and give it to someone. not anymore.

    they really took a big shit on a bbs software that i loved.
    atleast i got herrings to release the source.

    ... Beware False Messengers, and Trust Only Your Enemies.

    --- Renegade v1.18a
    * Origin: Physics bulletinboard.systems 16BIT! (25:25/22)
  • From Jas Hud@25:25/22 to Atreyu on Fri Mar 11 19:30:53 2022
    |03Quoting message from |11Atreyu |03to |11Jas Hud
    |03on |1110 Mar 22 07:01:54|03.

    On 09 Mar 22 23:09:39, Jas Hud said the following to Atreyu:

    i'll msg him and tell him you miss him.
    maybe he can talk to you on the phone for 3 hrs.

    No thanks.

    Atreyu

    oh darn, too late.

    ... Multitasking = screwing up several things at once.

    --- Renegade v1.18a
    * Origin: Physics bulletinboard.systems 16BIT! (25:25/22)
  • From Jas Hud@25:25/22 to Atreyu on Fri Mar 11 19:37:42 2022
    |03Quoting message from |11Atreyu |03to |11Jas Hud
    |03on |1110 Mar 22 07:04:22|03.

    On 09 Mar 22 23:10:56, Jas Hud said the following to Exodus:

    seriously though robert wolfe did much much much worse, many many many tim he takes the cake with the flooding.

    He would change BBS software like underwear... every day it seemed he ran something different.

    yeah, on top of that he didn't know how to setup it up. i didnt know anything about ftn and i actually fixed 2 bbses that he setup. he did everything unorthodox.

    Almost all flooding of old msgs in Fido is from Synchronet systems. Every couple of years this still happens. Every. Single. Time. Its that bloated overrated fucking Synchronet.

    But of course... its never Synchronet's fault, its always "the settings".



    what usually happens is there's enough data in there that the crc check dont detect it as a dupe. you can modify that.

    it is absolutely the fault of the sysop sending dupes, though.
    i had synchronet bbses hooked up to multiple networks including fidonet and never sent dupes. this was on multiple bbses using internet rex and radius
    and other software.

    i don't know how these sysops are configuring it so it is taking existing
    msgs, putting their origin line and sending it back. it's something they
    are doing wrong. i've never done it so i don't know.

    i'm no expert but i've set my own stuff up with no problems and i've setup people who are now running msg networks that are still going. i showed frank linhares how to do it and then he acted like an expert on it to everyone. i dont know shit and i logged into his system and set it up! same with another dude who is still around.

    so if you find out how they are doing it, let me know. i'm sure they wont
    admit to what they did wrong, though.

    ... Beware! This is a dangerous product, manuals required.

    --- Renegade v1.18a
    * Origin: Physics bulletinboard.systems 16BIT! (25:25/22)
  • From lux@25:1/104 to Exodus on Fri Mar 11 20:36:56 2022
    Yeah, I did.

    I hope you and Nick get to work on some d'bridge compatibility for that new version of Renegade. Would be nice if d'b could take care of adding all fido and everything else. Even if only just adding the bases.

    There is already a utility for y2ka2, not sure that works on the latest version.

    ... DOS never says "GOOD command or filename"

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: 2o fOr beeRS bbS >> 20ForBeers.com:1337 (25:1/104)
  • From lux@25:1/104 to Atreyu on Fri Mar 11 20:39:31 2022
    I'm not sure what I'll do with it because there's no freaking way its going to handle the traffic of BinkD or telnet bots... 8mhz @ 10 megabit Lan?

    I need to mail you one of these dos machines running dbridge and emulating modems over lan. Its amazing with bots! They don't know what to make of it.

    ... "If we do happen to step on a mine, Sir, what do we do?"

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: 2o fOr beeRS bbS >> 20ForBeers.com:1337 (25:1/104)
  • From lux@25:1/104 to Atreyu on Fri Mar 11 20:48:00 2022
    Next you'll tell me to call a Wildcrap board...


    Nonsense, why I could only recommend one to call...

    Wizards Rainbow 323-436-5249
    12 Nodes of that modded wild cat.

    Formerly Bit Sunrise BBS, Wizard's Rainbow has been online since 2014. We provide a unique experience with an completely original BBS format complete with custom BCR games & chances to win real prizesz! We also host a large original file base online, active caller base and multiple message networks.

    And its located right here in California on the way to Nevada.
    Pretty sure its got a .com too.

    ... Neutrinos are into physicists.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: 2o fOr beeRS bbS >> 20ForBeers.com:1337 (25:1/104)
  • From lux@25:1/104 to Atreyu on Fri Mar 11 20:51:01 2022
    I don't like changes past Y2KA2 because of the sacrifice of allllll the cool Rg mod's and utils in favour of saving a few bytes that nobody really cared.

    Thats not all you get, and sounds like more is to come.

    I do remember loosing monochrome support :(

    ... Do not under any circumstances trust the CIA agent.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: 2o fOr beeRS bbS >> 20ForBeers.com:1337 (25:1/104)
  • From lux@25:1/104 to Jas Hud on Fri Mar 11 20:58:08 2022
    did you buy a new power supply?


    No Im going to recap that board it will likely run again.
    And I have a powersupply for it watched when I have time.

    That was my favorite machine. haha you were pissed I maxxed it out with a quad core and the usb 3 conversion that rocked. That machine is a runner.

    The one that can't be revived is the ASUS board I had before that. its got some deeper problems then just early 2000s caps.

    ... OS/2 Virus Scanner: WIN Virus found [R]emove or [R]emove?

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: 2o fOr beeRS bbS >> 20ForBeers.com:1337 (25:1/104)
  • From lux@25:1/104 to Jas Hud on Fri Mar 11 21:01:00 2022
    oh man i loved irex. graveyard was using it fine.

    !^^^!
    What do you mean WAS, what happened?
    Do you need me to login and setup dbridge on there?

    Its easy, you know its easy if I did it already.

    ... He was so crooked he could hide behind a corkscrew.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: 2o fOr beeRS bbS >> 20ForBeers.com:1337 (25:1/104)
  • From lux@25:1/104 to Jas Hud on Fri Mar 11 21:03:16 2022
    he's not young. he just has no hair and no teeth.
    maybe you are confusing him for a baby

    Damn that must mean I have five fake teeth and Picard hair.

    ... Ahhhhhhhh, I forget what I was going to say.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: 2o fOr beeRS bbS >> 20ForBeers.com:1337 (25:1/104)
  • From lux@25:1/104 to Jas Hud on Fri Mar 11 21:07:01 2022
    it is absolutely the fault of the sysop sending dupes, though.
    i had synchronet bbses hooked up to multiple networks including fidonet and never sent dupes. this was on multiple bbses using internet rex and radius and other software.

    I bet I could get something like that going on IREX. It did manage to generate something like a 20mb outgoing that luckily got noticed (not by me) Before switching from it. I would have had someone tossing that :D

    But I agree Synchronet wouldn't put me through that.

    ... Taglines: The Bumper Stickers of the 90's!

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: 2o fOr beeRS bbS >> 20ForBeers.com:1337 (25:1/104)
  • From Atreyu@25:25/5 to Lux on Sat Mar 12 03:20:37 2022
    On 11 Mar 22 20:36:56, Lux said the following to Exodus:

    I hope you and Nick get to work on some d'bridge compatibility for that new version of Renegade. Would be nice if d'b could take care of adding all fido and everything else. Even if only just adding the bases.

    There is already a utility for y2ka2, not sure that works on the latest version.

    It does not. I would need to recompile it to work with the post-Y2K structures.

    Atreyu

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (25:25/5)
  • From Atreyu@25:25/5 to Lux on Sat Mar 12 03:21:39 2022
    On 11 Mar 22 20:48:00, Lux said the following to Atreyu:

    Nonsense, why I could only recommend one to call...

    Wizards Rainbow 323-436-5249
    12 Nodes of that modded wild cat.

    Modded Wildcrap? So... bright yellow to a slightly less bright yellow?

    Atreyu

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (25:25/5)
  • From Atreyu@25:25/5 to Lux on Sat Mar 12 03:23:43 2022
    On 11 Mar 22 20:51:01, Lux said the following to Atreyu:

    I don't like changes past Y2KA2 because of the sacrifice of allllll the cool Rg mod's and utils in favour of saving a few bytes that nobody really cared.

    Thats not all you get, and sounds like more is to come.

    I do remember loosing monochrome support :(

    I didn't remember that one. The first thing Nuclear did was drop Digiboard support and I was still using one at the time. His comments? "Really... who uses this?"

    That sort of arrogance was what made me stay on Y2KA2.

    As I wrote before, changing the entire menu storage structure was just unbelievably stupid. I can't believe he wasn't given the boot.

    Atreyu

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (25:25/5)
  • From Atreyu@25:25/5 to Jas Hud on Sat Mar 12 03:25:20 2022
    On 11 Mar 22 19:28:58, Jas Hud said the following to Atreyu:

    I don't like changes past Y2KA2 because of the sacrifice of allllll the coo Rg mod's and utils in favour of saving a few bytes that nobody really cared

    yeah that was a huge loss. filedude was so great. and you could just zip some ansi screens and a .mnu file and give it to someone. not anymore.

    Yup, or how if one *really* wanted to, you could generate .MNU files from the command-line very easily.

    Atreyu

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (25:25/5)
  • From Atreyu@25:25/5 to Jas Hud on Sat Mar 12 04:14:57 2022
    On 11 Mar 22 19:37:42, Jas Hud said the following to Atreyu:

    But of course... its never Synchronet's fault, its always "the settings".

    what usually happens is there's enough data in there that the crc check don detect it as a dupe. you can modify that.

    it is absolutely the fault of the sysop sending dupes, though.
    i had synchronet bbses hooked up to multiple networks including fidonet an never sent dupes. this was on multiple bbses using internet rex and radius and other software.

    Synchronet is not designed for the newcomer average Sysop. Its meant for autistic savants who can count cards or tell me that 247 toothpicks fell
    out of that box. UH OH! 15 minutes till Jeopardy.

    Or its meant for a social recluse who grew up in East Texas with a strong interest in physics who ends up moving west to an apartment building in Pasedena to work at Caltech, gets a roommate from Princeton, and lives across the hall from a blonde actress working at the Cheesecake Factory.

    Thats the sort of person that enjoys Synchronet.

    It just has so many settings and configs, it needs a config for a config. Its just wayyyyyy too much. The average Sysop can't get shit working in it without some level of hand-holding. When something goes wrong, he's usually at a
    total loss as to "why".

    Now take that bloatware and couple that with the problems of Linux and the likewise its-never-my-fault insufferable arrogant Linux Sysop crowd and multiply this by about a half-dozen of them. A recipe for disaster...

    I've seen this first hand for decades now... always "the configs" at fault, never the software. Yeah right.

    Atreyu

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (25:25/5)
  • From Atreyu@25:25/5 to Lux on Sat Mar 12 04:16:24 2022
    On 11 Mar 22 20:39:31, Lux said the following to Atreyu:

    I'm not sure what I'll do with it because there's no freaking way its going to handle the traffic of BinkD or telnet bots... 8mhz @ 10 megabi Lan?

    I need to mail you one of these dos machines running dbridge and emulating modems over lan. Its amazing with bots! They don't know what to make of it.

    Send me video of an actual script-kiddie weirdo millenial encountering this...

    Atreyu

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (25:25/5)
  • From Atreyu@25:25/5 to Jas Hud on Sat Mar 12 04:17:22 2022
    On 11 Mar 22 19:24:12, Jas Hud said the following to Lux:

    I do like the message here, interesting enough he seems to be talking about BBSes there. he looks to be younger then me in this video, that would make a teenager back in the early 2000's Maybe he's learned a thing or two?

    he's not young. he just has no hair and no teeth.
    maybe you are confusing him for a baby

    He's not worth the bytes wasted discussing him.

    Atreyu

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (25:25/5)
  • From Lux@25:25/0 to Atreyu on Sat Mar 12 09:20:22 2022
    Modded Wildcrap? So... bright yellow to a slightly less bright yellow?

    Dude im telling you fully modded out.
    You find any bright yellow and you win a prize.

    ... I have seen the evidence. I want DIFFERENT evidence...

    --- Renegade v1.30r3/Exp
    * Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.rgbbs.info (25:25/0)
  • From Lux@25:25/0 to Atreyu on Sat Mar 12 09:26:11 2022
    I didn't remember that one. The first thing Nuclear did was drop Digiboard support and I was still using one at the time. His comments? "Really... uses this?"


    Thats how I felt when I looked at my crt' s and support for it vanished I figured meh I guess those wont work much longer anyways. And guess what I could still plug it in and run it 24/7 fairly inexpensive. I do think there would be so much burn in it would be difficult to see by now had I started using it then.

    ... I wish you wouldn't sharpen your teeth when you say that.

    --- Renegade v1.30r3/Exp
    * Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.rgbbs.info (25:25/0)
  • From Lux@25:25/0 to Atreyu on Sat Mar 12 09:42:08 2022
    Or its meant for a social recluse who grew up in East Texas with a strong interest in physics who ends up moving west to an apartment building in Pasedena to work at Caltech, gets a roommate from Princeton, and lives acro the hall from a blonde actress working at the Cheesecake Factory.


    8) Stop talking about me.

    It just has so many settings and configs, it needs a config for a config. I just wayyyyyy too much. The average Sysop can't get shit working in it with some level of hand-holding. When something goes wrong, he's usually at a total loss as to "why".


    This is talking about last week

    I've seen this first hand for decades now... always "the configs" at fault, never the software. Yeah right.


    I had a difficult time setting stuff up on Synch but come on if I can get it going how hard could it really be? granted it did take a month to do something that I could have done on RG in one evening. Aaannd there was some severe to moderate hand holding plus help from the top Synch guys. But thats mostly due to some confusion I created by listening to every bit of information even if some of its not entirely true. I got caught up in legacy commands and all.

    I did learn quite a bit and that can be the take away. I now know how to copy a segment of a script and get that one segment going then put it back in the script and see what happens and figure out what changed it and why.

    I do like how Renegade sees to it that you dont forget your end_cmd on line 887 and the compler doesnt catch that and your entire script bombs because of it as to your point.

    ... Between two evils, always pick one you never tried before

    --- Renegade v1.30r3/Exp
    * Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.rgbbs.info (25:25/0)
  • From Lux@25:25/0 to Atreyu on Sat Mar 12 09:46:45 2022
    Send me video of an actual script-kiddie weirdo millenial encountering this

    There really isn't anything to see on the event the bots probe D'b answers the emulated phone sits there and times out then takes a good couple of seconds resetting its com. By this time the bots go and attack elsewhere. and D'b laughs and goes back to screensavering.

    ...I may be a wierdo but im a GENX wierdo.

    --- Renegade v1.30r3/Exp
    * Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.rgbbs.info (25:25/0)
  • From Exodus@25:25/0 to Lux on Sat Mar 12 12:28:47 2022
    I hope you and Nick get to work on some d'bridge compatibility for that new version of Renegade. Would be nice if d'b could take care of adding all fid and everything else. Even if only just adding the bases.

    There is already a utility for y2ka2, not sure that works on the latest version.

    Nope, it doesn't. I just gave Nick the stuctures for 1.30r3 and we'll cross our fingers if he gets time. ;)

    ... The universe is laughing behind your back.

    --- Renegade v1.30r3/Exp
    * Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.rgbbs.info (25:25/0)
  • From Exodus@25:25/0 to Atreyu on Sat Mar 12 12:32:12 2022
    Or its meant for a social recluse who grew up in East Texas with a strong interest in physics who ends up moving west to an apartment building in Pasedena to work at Caltech, gets a roommate from Princeton, and lives acro the hall from a blonde actress working at the Cheesecake Factory.


    HAHAH

    ... Old soldiers never die...young ones do.

    --- Renegade v1.30r3/Exp
    * Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.rgbbs.info (25:25/0)
  • From Atreyu@25:25/5 to Lux on Sat Mar 12 12:03:18 2022
    On 12 Mar 22 09:20:22, Lux said the following to Atreyu:

    Modded Wildcrap? So... bright yellow to a slightly less bright yellow?

    Dude im telling you fully modded out.
    You find any bright yellow and you win a prize.

    Uhhh... white colours?

    Atreyu

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (25:25/5)
  • From Atreyu@25:25/5 to Lux on Sat Mar 12 12:03:51 2022
    On 12 Mar 22 09:26:11, Lux said the following to Atreyu:

    Thats how I felt when I looked at my crt' s and support for it vanished I figured meh I guess those wont work much longer anyways. And guess what I could still plug it in and run it 24/7 fairly inexpensive. I do think there would be so much burn in it would be difficult to see by now had I started using it then.

    Renegade has a built in screen-saver though...

    Atreyu

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (25:25/5)
  • From Atreyu@25:25/5 to Lux on Sat Mar 12 12:06:31 2022
    On 12 Mar 22 09:42:08, Lux said the following to Atreyu:

    Or its meant for a social recluse who grew up in East Texas with a strong interest in physics who ends up moving west to an apartment building in Pasedena to work at Caltech, gets a roommate from Princeton, and lives acro the hall from a blonde actress working at the Cheesecake Factory.

    8) Stop talking about me.

    You can't be Leonard... he gets the blonde.

    It just has so many settings and configs, it needs a config for a config. I just wayyyyyy too much. The average Sysop can't get shit working in it with some level of hand-holding. When something goes wrong, he's usually at a total loss as to "why".

    This is talking about last week

    Lol, you weren't running Synchronet.

    I do like how Renegade sees to it that you dont forget your end_cmd on line 887 and the compler doesnt catch that and your entire script bombs because o it as to your point.

    I never really messed around with any scripting in Renegade.

    Atreyu

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (25:25/5)
  • From Atreyu@25:25/5 to Lux on Sat Mar 12 12:07:15 2022
    On 12 Mar 22 09:46:45, Lux said the following to Atreyu:

    There really isn't anything to see on the event the bots probe D'b answers t emulated phone sits there and times out then takes a good couple of seconds resetting its com. By this time the bots go and attack elsewhere. and D'b laughs and goes back to screensavering.

    Ahhh just admit it, you ONLY installed it for the screensavering.

    Atreyu

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (25:25/5)
  • From Exodus@25:25/0 to Atreyu on Sat Mar 12 12:35:38 2022

    Renegade has a built in screen-saver though...

    I'm gonna change it to say "SynchroNet" scrolling across the screen. <G>

    ... not after devouring so many maidens of the valley.

    --- Renegade v1.30r3/Exp
    * Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.rgbbs.info (25:25/0)
  • From Lux@25:25/22 to Exodus on Sat Mar 12 20:25:01 2022
    There is already a utility for y2ka2, not sure that works on the latest version.

    Nope, it doesn't. I just gave Nick the stuctures for 1.30r3 and we'll cros our fingers if he gets time. ;)

    Well after thats sorted I have a request for DB. Need a mode reset escape sequence right at the start of The DB splash screen before hit esc twice and all that. Very low priority request but something I noticed could be useful
    to others and would certainly useful in my situation.


    Was able to export the config and throw one in and import it back since the menu system wouldn't let me enter the escape code. This way at least the hit escape part shows up but everything before that is BLACK|BLACK due to some crafty synchronet modifications.





    ... PCs rule 1001111 1001011

    --- Renegade v1.18a
    * Origin: Physics bulletinboard.systems 16BIT! (25:25/22)
  • From Lux@25:25/22 to Atreyu on Sat Mar 12 20:25:57 2022
    Modded Wildcrap? So... bright yellow to a slightly less bright yellow?

    Dude im telling you fully modded out.
    You find any bright yellow and you win a prize.

    Uhhh... white colours?

    15 colors everything but bright yellow.

    ... I FELT something was wrong. Multitasking causes schizophrenia.

    --- Renegade v1.18a
    * Origin: Physics bulletinboard.systems 16BIT! (25:25/22)
  • From Lux@25:25/22 to Atreyu on Sat Mar 12 20:29:45 2022
    Thats how I felt when I looked at my crt' s and support for it vanished I figured meh I guess those wont work much longer anyways. And guess what I could still plug it in and run it 24/7 fairly inexpensive. I do think ther would be so much burn in it would be difficult to see by now had I started using it then.

    Renegade has a built in screen-saver though...

    Gah dude who would use that when you could have a few db's handling things. Then you get awesome Ansi starfield simulation. with an occasional red star.

    What I forgot about was Iniqity's screensaver. :D

    ... Call me Ishmael. I won't ANSWER, but..

    --- Renegade v1.18a
    * Origin: Physics bulletinboard.systems 16BIT! (25:25/22)
  • From Lux@25:25/22 to Atreyu on Sat Mar 12 20:34:06 2022
    You can't be Leonard... he gets the blonde.

    I married the blonde

    Lol, you weren't running Synchronet.

    I run Synchronet every day since 2005

    I never really messed around with any scripting in Renegade.

    What are you talking about?! I have most of the same scripting you have.
    How do you think the moment a user sends ftn stuff thats polling and visa versa. How do you think my randomizer works.

    ..wait does .bat files count?


    --- Renegade v1.18a
    * Origin: Physics bulletinboard.systems 16BIT! (25:25/22)
  • From Lux@25:25/22 to Atreyu on Sat Mar 12 20:37:18 2022
    Ahhh just admit it, you ONLY installed it for the screensavering.

    I was trying to get to that. But then you assumed I would have renegade at some wfc screen like a noob :D


    Yeah its true its a favorite.
    I leave that monitor and this monitor on all the time my middle monitor goes off at night cause its chaos and brite.

    ... Brain Disengaged; Call Back Tomorrow.

    --- Renegade v1.18a
    * Origin: Physics bulletinboard.systems 16BIT! (25:25/22)
  • From paulie420@25:1/104 to lux on Sat Mar 12 19:41:11 2022
    Next you'll tell me to call a Wildcrap board...

    Nonsense, why I could only recommend one to call...
    Wizards Rainbow 323-436-5249
    12 Nodes of that modded wild cat.

    Pretty sure its got a .com too.

    wizardsrainbow.com:23

    I really like this WC!



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    * Origin: 2o fOr beeRS bbS >> 20ForBeers.com:1337 (25:1/104)
  • From paulie420@25:1/104 to Atreyu on Sat Mar 12 19:43:13 2022
    I need to mail you one of these dos machines running dbridge and emulat modems over lan. Its amazing with bots! They don't know what to make of

    Send me video of an actual script-kiddie weirdo millenial encountering this...

    Yessssssssssss.



    |07p|15AULIE|1142|07o
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    * Origin: 2o fOr beeRS bbS >> 20ForBeers.com:1337 (25:1/104)
  • From Mro@25:25/0 to Atreyu on Sun Mar 13 09:39:42 2022
    Synchronet is not designed for the newcomer average Sysop. Its meant for autistic savants who can count cards or tell me that 247 toothpicks fell out of that box. UH OH! 15 minutes till Jeopardy.

    Or its meant for a social recluse who grew up in East Texas with a strong interest in physics who ends up moving west to an apartment building in Pasedena to work at Caltech, gets a roommate from Princeton, and lives acro the hall from a blonde actress working at the Cheesecake Factory.

    Thats the sort of person that enjoys Synchronet.

    well i was a renegade and an iniquity sysop.
    i switched to synchronet because it was the most stable software in the age when we are all going online with telnet. remember netmodem??

    you dont have to be a programmer or genius to run synchronet. and any new sysop can run it.

    if i could do anything with it, anybody can. i'm no genius.

    there was a little bit of a learning curve and honestly the people that
    appear to help with synchronet are just pretenders. they dont really help people. i took people under my wing and showed them how to approach it and get in the correct mindset. sometimes you have to do that instead of just replying on a msg network.

    once i found other people's mods i learned how to do things and make it even better than any of my other bbses.

    synchronet is really a superior bbs software and all the current bbs softwares pale in compairson.

    not only THAT, but the documentation actually doesn't suck. most bbs related documentation is just plain horrible.

    ... I was a dirty young man - I haven't changed.

    --- Renegade v1.30r3/Exp
    * Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.rgbbs.info (25:25/0)
  • From Mro@25:25/0 to Atreyu on Sun Mar 13 09:40:52 2022
    |03Quoting message from |11Atreyu |03to |11Jas Hud
    |03on |1112 Mar 22 03:25:20|03.

    On 11 Mar 22 19:28:58, Jas Hud said the following to Atreyu:

    I don't like changes past Y2KA2 because of the sacrifice of allllll the coo Rg mod's and utils in favour of saving a few bytes that nobody really cared

    yeah that was a huge loss. filedude was so great. and you could just zip some ansi screens and a .mnu file and give it to someone. not anymore.

    Yup, or how if one *really* wanted to, you could generate .MNU files from t command-line very easily.



    oh yeah, i did that a few times. i really miss the old days.

    ... Radioactive Halibut will make fission chips

    --- Renegade v1.30r3/Exp
    * Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.rgbbs.info (25:25/0)
  • From Mro@25:25/0 to Lux on Sun Mar 13 09:45:46 2022
    I had a difficult time setting stuff up on Synch but come on if I can get i going how hard could it really be? granted it did take a month to do something that I could have done on RG in one evening. Aaannd there was som severe to moderate hand holding plus help from the top Synch guys. But that mostly due to some confusion I created by listening to every bit of information even if some of its not entirely true. I got caught up in legac commands and all.


    your problem with setting up synchronet and making your complex menu system is you:
    [1] don't read the documentation or .src examples provided.
    [2] you are taking it too seriously.
    [3] #1 again

    ... The world is a stage, but the play is badly cast.

    --- Renegade v1.30r3/Exp
    * Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.rgbbs.info (25:25/0)
  • From paulie420@25:1/104 to Lux on Sun Mar 13 13:20:57 2022
    Lol, you weren't running Synchronet.

    I run Synchronet every day since 2005

    Dude, I also didn't realize this... I thought you were an RG guy thru and thru - I'll have to rewrite my 'friends of' link to Physics.



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    * Origin: 2o fOr beeRS bbS >> 20ForBeers.com:1337 (25:1/104)
  • From Exodus@25:25/0 to Paulie420 on Sun Mar 13 16:57:25 2022
    I run Synchronet every day since 2005

    Dude, I also didn't realize this... I thought you were an RG guy thru and t - I'll have to rewrite my 'friends of' link to Physics.

    He goes whichever way the wind blows. Makes me no want to make the 200 menu limit. ;)

    ... Chance makes our parents, but choice makes our friends.

    --- Renegade v1.30r3/Exp
    * Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.rgbbs.info (25:25/0)
  • From Lux@25:25/22 to Paulie420 on Sun Mar 13 20:18:28 2022
    wizardsrainbow.com:23

    I really like this WC!

    Thats the best WC I have ever seen.

    ... Anything free is worth what you pay for it.

    --- Renegade v1.18a
    * Origin: Physics bulletinboard.systems 16BIT! (25:25/22)
  • From Lux@25:25/22 to Mro on Sun Mar 13 20:25:32 2022
    there was a little bit of a learning curve and honestly the people that

    Ok I will agree with most of that..

    not only THAT, but the documentation actually doesn't suck. most bbs relat documentation is just plain horrible.

    It does have an alright set of DOCs
    Even I can make sense of some if it.

    ... Avoid hangovers - stay drunk

    --- Renegade v1.18a
    * Origin: Physics bulletinboard.systems 16BIT! (25:25/22)
  • From Lux@25:25/22 to Paulie420 on Sun Mar 13 20:35:15 2022
    Dude, I also didn't realize this... I thought you were an RG guy thru and t - I'll have to rewrite my 'friends of' link to Physics.

    thru? Im never thru, I do dabble in the darkside every now and then.
    But nothing beats Renegade for me.

    Like Atreyu said, simple, works, very moddable. +5

    ... What garlic is to salad, insanity is to art.

    --- Renegade v1.18a
    * Origin: Physics bulletinboard.systems 16BIT! (25:25/22)
  • From Lux@25:25/22 to Exodus on Sun Mar 13 20:36:08 2022
    He goes whichever way the wind blows. Makes me no want to make the 200 men limit. ;)

    I will simply downgrade to 5-11 ;)

    ... Should the wind blow that way.

    --- Renegade v1.18a
    * Origin: Physics bulletinboard.systems 16BIT! (25:25/22)
  • From Exodus@25:25/0 to Lux on Mon Mar 14 06:03:45 2022
    He goes whichever way the wind blows. Makes me no want to make the 200 men limit. ;)

    I will simply downgrade to 5-11 ;)

    LIES! <G>

    ... How do we know you're the *real* Angel of Death?

    --- Renegade v1.30r3/Exp
    * Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.rgbbs.info (25:25/0)
  • From Jas Hud@25:25/22 to Lux on Mon Mar 14 06:26:26 2022
    |03Quoting message from |11Lux |03to |11Atreyu
    |03on |1112 Mar 22 20:25|03.

    Modded Wildcrap? So... bright yellow to a slightly less bright yellow?

    Dude im telling you fully modded out.
    You find any bright yellow and you win a prize.

    Uhhh... white colours?

    15 colors everything but bright yellow.

    i want to run a wildcat 4 bbs. and everything will be yellow.

    ... I debug with a magnet.

    --- Renegade v1.18a
    * Origin: Physics bulletinboard.systems 16BIT! (25:25/22)
  • From Jas Hud@25:25/22 to Exodus on Mon Mar 14 06:27:31 2022
    |03Quoting message from |11Exodus |03to |11Paulie420
    |03on |1113 Mar 22 16:57:25|03.

    I run Synchronet every day since 2005

    Dude, I also didn't realize this... I thought you were an RG guy thru and t - I'll have to rewrite my 'friends of' link to Physics.

    He goes whichever way the wind blows. Makes me no want to make the 200 men limit. ;)

    synchronet has NO limits. :D

    ... Shin - Device for finding furniture in the dark.

    --- Renegade v1.18a
    * Origin: Physics bulletinboard.systems 16BIT! (25:25/22)
  • From Jas Hud@25:25/22 to Lux on Mon Mar 14 06:28:36 2022
    |03Quoting message from |11Lux |03to |11Paulie420
    |03on |1113 Mar 22 20:35|03.

    Dude, I also didn't realize this... I thought you were an RG guy thru and t - I'll have to rewrite my 'friends of' link to Physics.

    thru? Im never thru, I do dabble in the darkside every now and then.
    But nothing beats Renegade for me.


    if you become a synchronet wizzard like i WAS, you can make it look and work like rg but then do anything else you can imagine.

    ... I refuse to answer on the grounds..in the air maybe...

    --- Renegade v1.18a
    * Origin: Physics bulletinboard.systems 16BIT! (25:25/22)
  • From paulie420@25:1/104 to Lux on Mon Mar 14 10:20:04 2022
    Dude, I also didn't realize this... I thought you were an RG guy thru a - I'll have to rewrite my 'friends of' link to Physics.

    thru? Im never thru, I do dabble in the darkside every now and then.
    But nothing beats Renegade for me.
    Like Atreyu said, simple, works, very moddable. +5

    Ahh - thats what I thought, altho I'm digging your Physics trickery. :P



    |07p|15AULIE|1142|07o
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    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: 2o fOr beeRS bbS >> 20ForBeers.com:1337 (25:1/104)
  • From Mro@25:25/0 to Lux on Tue Mar 15 14:32:41 2022
    |03Quoting message from |11Lux |03to |11Paulie420
    |03on |1113 Mar 22 20:35:15|03.

    Dude, I also didn't realize this... I thought you were an RG guy thru and t - I'll have to rewrite my 'friends of' link to Physics.

    thru? Im never thru, I do dabble in the darkside every now and then.
    But nothing beats Renegade for me.

    Like Atreyu said, simple, works, very moddable. +5


    i wouldn't call it moddable. you have to use a lot of ugly hacks.

    ... Every morning is the dawn of a new error...

    --- Renegade v1.30r3/Exp
    * Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.rgbbs.info (25:25/0)
  • From Atreyu@25:25/5 to Mro on Tue Mar 15 15:40:32 2022
    On 15 Mar 22 14:32:41, Mro said the following to Lux:

    But nothing beats Renegade for me.

    Like Atreyu said, simple, works, very moddable. +5

    i wouldn't call it moddable. you have to use a lot of ugly hacks.

    Just grab the source code, then "anything" can be modded.

    Atreyu

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (25:25/5)
  • From Lux@25:25/22 to Jas Hud on Tue Mar 15 21:05:46 2022
    i want to run a wildcat 4 bbs. and everything will be yellow.

    Just leave it stock and pump files at it 24/7
    When I was 15 thats what I remember every wildcat board was stock and had craploads of files on it.

    ... When I was a kid we had to carve our CPU's out of wood...

    --- Renegade v1.18a
    * Origin: Physics bulletinboard.systems 16BIT! (25:25/22)
  • From Lux@25:25/22 to Jas Hud on Tue Mar 15 21:11:23 2022
    if you become a synchronet wizzard like i WAS, you can make it look and wo like rg but then do anything else you can imagine.

    Wouldn't be enough for me, I would need to be a BETTER synchronet wizzard then you WAS. aaaaannnnndd I think we both know thats never gonna happen.

    I do enjoy the idea of evertything is a script. and I have learned quite a bit about it in just playing around with the login annex.. Ill likely continue messing with it and who knows some day maybe open the doors to the synchronet board. I won't do that until Its got something unique to it, Last thing we need is another stock synchroboard.

    ... I don't have any solution, but I admire the problem.

    --- Renegade v1.18a
    * Origin: Physics bulletinboard.systems 16BIT! (25:25/22)
  • From Lux@25:25/22 to Mro on Tue Mar 15 21:17:14 2022
    Like Atreyu said, simple, works, very moddable. +5


    i wouldn't call it moddable. you have to use a lot of ugly hacks.

    Part of the fun, like damn there is no way to do what I want it to do...
    I guess I will go to sleep...
    DREAMS an UGLY hack<
    OH look what I did!

    ... Don't look for flaws as you go through life.

    --- Renegade v1.18a
    * Origin: Physics bulletinboard.systems 16BIT! (25:25/22)
  • From Mro@25:25/0 to Atreyu on Fri Mar 18 07:20:06 2022
    |03Quoting message from |11Atreyu |03to |11Mro
    |03on |1115 Mar 22 15:40:32|03.

    On 15 Mar 22 14:32:41, Mro said the following to Lux:

    But nothing beats Renegade for me.

    Like Atreyu said, simple, works, very moddable. +5

    i wouldn't call it moddable. you have to use a lot of ugly hacks.

    Just grab the source code, then "anything" can be modded.


    people are better off starting all over. or not at all, for a bbs software.

    ... Your new credit limit is $1. Have a nice day.

    --- Renegade v1.30r3/Exp
    * Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.rgbbs.info (25:25/0)
  • From Mro@25:25/0 to Lux on Fri Mar 18 07:21:59 2022
    |03Quoting message from |11Lux |03to |11Jas Hud
    |03on |1115 Mar 22 21:05:46|03.

    i want to run a wildcat 4 bbs. and everything will be yellow.

    Just leave it stock and pump files at it 24/7
    When I was 15 thats what I remember every wildcat board was stock and had craploads of files on it.



    my friend had a great wildcat board. i've probably only seen 4 modded wc boards in my life.

    ... Contains less than 2% U.S. RDA for this echo

    --- Renegade v1.30r3/Exp
    * Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.rgbbs.info (25:25/0)
  • From Mro@25:25/0 to Lux on Fri Mar 18 07:22:56 2022
    |03Quoting message from |11Lux |03to |11Jas Hud
    |03on |1115 Mar 22 21:11:23|03.

    if you become a synchronet wizzard like i WAS, you can make it look and wo like rg but then do anything else you can imagine.

    Wouldn't be enough for me, I would need to be a BETTER synchronet wizzard t you WAS. aaaaannnnndd I think we both know thats never gonna happen.

    I do enjoy the idea of evertything is a script. and I have learned quite a about it in just playing around with the login annex.. Ill likely continue messing with it and who knows some day maybe open the doors to the synchron board. I won't do that until Its got something unique to it, Last thing we need is another stock synchroboard.



    i dont see any stock synchronet bbses anymore. now i see boring mystic bbses.

    ... No One Is Ugly After 2:00 AM

    --- Renegade v1.30r3/Exp
    * Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.rgbbs.info (25:25/0)
  • From Codefenix@25:25/21 to Mro on Fri Mar 18 11:50:38 2022
    Re: Re: Man ....
    By: Mro to Lux on Fri Mar 18 2022 07:22 am

    i dont see any stock synchronet bbses anymore. now i see boring mystic bbses.

    You'll see plenty of both kinds plop on top of the 'new' section of the Telnet BBS Guide page constantly. There's a couple of each right now as I type this (to be fair, I'm just looking at the login screenshots which are stock, so maybe they're customized under the surface, maybe not).

    I made the noob mistake very early on of having my BBS accessible while I was working on it, and with the sbbslist timed event running. I just left it running one day so a buddy of mine could test it out. The next day, some one I don't know creates a new account and says they heard about it from Telnet BBS Guide. Eventually I realized that the sbbslist must be one of Telnet BBS Guide's sources. Lesson learned, and from that point on I made sure I tried to understand as much from the wiki as possible before going online again.

    I kinda wish TBBSG did more vetting. Maybe only include boards that have been active for X days, and aren't just more noobs like I was when I was just trying out the software. Maybe then we'd see fewer stock listings constantly littering the top of the new board list. But I digress.

    I like to think now I have a good board, and very much non-stock. Maybe not the best out there, but I put a lot of work into it and hopefully it shows.
    --- SBBSecho 3.11-Win32
    * Origin: -=[conchaos.synchro.net|ConstructiveChaos BBS]=- (25:25/21)
  • From Atreyu@25:25/5 to Mro on Fri Mar 18 18:01:48 2022
    On 18 Mar 22 07:20:06, Mro said the following to Atreyu:

    Like Atreyu said, simple, works, very moddable. +5

    i wouldn't call it moddable. you have to use a lot of ugly hacks.

    Just grab the source code, then "anything" can be modded.

    people are better off starting all over. or not at all, for a bbs software.

    I'm not sure I understand what that means.

    Atreyu

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (25:25/5)
  • From Lux@25:25/22 to Mro on Sun Mar 20 21:23:57 2022
    my friend had a great wildcat board. i've probably only seen 4 modded wc boards in my life.

    wonder if its not very straight forward to mod?

    ... Failure reading left hemisphere <A>bort <R>etry <F>rolic?

    --- Renegade v1.18a
    * Origin: Physics bulletinboard.systems 16BIT! (25:25/22)
  • From Mro@25:25/0 to Lux on Mon Mar 21 15:32:34 2022
    |03Quoting message from |11Lux |03to |11Mro
    |03on |1120 Mar 22 21:23:57|03.

    my friend had a great wildcat board. i've probably only seen 4 modded wc boards in my life.

    wonder if its not very straight forward to mod?


    it didn't take him long.

    ... Member: International Brotherhood of Tagline Thieves!

    --- Renegade v1.30r3/Exp
    * Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.rgbbs.info (25:25/0)
  • From Roon@25:25/27 to Atreyu on Fri Apr 1 20:21:17 2022
    Hello Atreyu,

    05 Mar 22 20:14, you wrote to Lux:

    On 5 Mar 22 13:41, Lux said the following to Atreyu:

    OH man totaly overlooked this message before :D
    So what about those strange System Operators that insist on still
    running only on DOS or OS/2? ;)

    Since we never really hear from them, they don't need to be assigned a label.

    ahem! :)

    Regards,
    --
    dp

    telnet://bbs.roonsbbs.hu:1212 <<=-

    ... 10:04pm up 42 days, 7:01:10, load: 76 processes, 279 threads.
    --- GoldED/2 1.1.4.7+EMX
    * Origin: Roon's BBS - Budapest, HUNGARY +36-1-4454412 (25:25/27)
  • From Atreyu@25:25/5 to Roon on Fri Apr 1 16:22:54 2022
    On 01 Apr 22 20:21:17, Roon said the following to Atreyu:

    Since we never really hear from them, they don't need to be assigned a label.

    OS/2 systems tend to be up for so long and we never really hear from them because they are usually busy screwing blondes or drinking blonde ale.

    ... 10:04pm up 42 days, 7:01:10, load: 76 processes, 279 threads.

    But why is yours only up for 42 days?

    Atreyu

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (25:25/5)
  • From Roon@25:25/27 to Atreyu on Tue Apr 5 13:39:13 2022
    Hello Atreyu,

    01 Apr 22 16:22, you wrote to me:

    On 01 Apr 22 20:21:17, Roon said the following to Atreyu:

    Since we never really hear from them, they don't need to be
    assigned a label.

    OS/2 systems tend to be up for so long and we never really hear from
    them because they are usually busy screwing blondes or drinking blonde
    ale.

    ... 10:04pm up 42 days, 7:01:10, load: 76 processes, 279 threads.

    But why is yours only up for 42 days?

    42 days is pretty good here :)

    Regards,
    --
    dp

    telnet://bbs.roonsbbs.hu:1212 <<=-

    ... 3:37pm up 1 days, 3:46:57, load: 73 processes, 276 threads.
    --- GoldED/2 1.1.4.7+EMX
    * Origin: Roon's BBS - Budapest, HUNGARY +36-1-4454412 (25:25/27)
  • From Jas Hud@25:25/22 to Roon on Tue Apr 5 14:05:14 2022
    |03Quoting message from |11Roon |03to |11Atreyu
    |03on |1101 Apr 22 20:21:17|03.

    Hello Atreyu,

    05 Mar 22 20:14, you wrote to Lux:

    On 5 Mar 22 13:41, Lux said the following to Atreyu:

    OH man totaly overlooked this message before :D
    So what about those strange System Operators that insist on still
    running only on DOS or OS/2? ;)

    Since we never really hear from them, they don't need to be assigned a label.

    ahem! :)

    neckbeard alert!

    ... Never accept a drink from a urologist.

    --- Renegade v1.18a
    * Origin: Physics bulletinboard.systems 16BIT! (25:25/22)
  • From Jas Hud@25:25/22 to Atreyu on Tue Apr 5 14:10:29 2022
    ... 10:04pm up 42 days, 7:01:10, load: 76 processes, 279 threads.

    But why is yours only up for 42 days?

    42 days? my grandma spends more time in the bathroom than that.

    right now i have 1230 days.
    i dont even know why i rebooted. maybe the ovh network was going nuts. https://i.imgur.com/hrmoahE.png

    i think my longest recent uptime has been like 5+ years

    ... MUST...DESTROY...MANKIND.......oops! Time for lunch!

    --- Renegade v1.18a
    * Origin: Physics bulletinboard.systems 16BIT! (25:25/22)
  • From Lux@25:25/22 to Jas Hud on Tue Apr 5 21:58:59 2022
    right now i have 1230 days.
    I could have uptime like that if it wasn't for Californias wonderous PSPS and constant power issues.
    Im looking to do a small wind turbine and some solar panels +battery to correct this horrible crap. I just need to keep the internet hot and some low power machines. For the fridge I have a generator that would drain this setup in a manner of minutes This is just going to be a small DC-DC setup since my internet and pc's can run 12vdc direct. DIY tip, if you set something like this up for yourself spend the extra money on a quality charge controller. The rest of the stuff isn't important unless you add an inverter in to get AC.

    The windmill im building is very basic its a bridged rectifier hooked to a john deere tractor alternator I grabbed it because its 80bucks and operates on permenent magnets instead of field windings. This will reduce drag and let it spin in low wind conditions when the batterys call for charge. It max is 20amps but in this aplication it will be producing less then an amp in most cases since i need a 2 to 1 ratio in order to ever see any type of production.

    The solar is what im banking on nice sunny day will push around 2000 watts so in the dead of winter the most overcast day I will still get at least 100 watts. Thats plenty to run what I need and with 3 deep cycle batterys I could run almost a two days with no sun and no wind at all.

    ... PATROL CAR BUMPERSTICKER: Attitudes adjusted, while you wait.

    --- Renegade v1.18a
    * Origin: Physics bulletinboard.systems 16BIT! (25:25/22)
  • From Atreyu@25:25/5 to Jas Hud on Wed Apr 6 09:46:39 2022
    On 05 Apr 22 14:10:29, Jas Hud said the following to Atreyu:

    right now i have 1230 days.
    i dont even know why i rebooted. maybe the ovh network was going nuts.

    Its rare that Ovh has problems. I've used them for years.

    Atreyu

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (25:25/5)
  • From Atreyu@25:25/5 to Lux on Wed Apr 6 09:48:26 2022
    On 05 Apr 22 21:58:59, Lux said the following to Jas Hud:

    right now i have 1230 days.
    I could have uptime like that if it wasn't for Californias wonderous PSPS an constant power issues.

    Toronto Hydro is just as bad especially rolling blackouts, brownouts.

    I have an older APC 1400 in my home rack with a fresh set of batteries it has managed to keep the power in order here.

    Atreyu

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (25:25/5)
  • From Jas Hud@25:25/22 to Lux on Wed Apr 6 22:31:04 2022
    The solar is what im banking on nice sunny day will push around 2000 watts in the dead of winter the most overcast day I will still get at least 100 watts. Thats plenty to run what I need and with 3 deep cycle batterys I cou run almost a two days with no sun and no wind at all.


    just get a gas generator. solar and wind power suck ass.

    ... You can tie me up, but you can't tie me down.

    --- Renegade v1.18a
    * Origin: Physics bulletinboard.systems 16BIT! (25:25/22)
  • From Jas Hud@25:25/22 to Atreyu on Wed Apr 6 22:32:56 2022
    |03Quoting message from |11Atreyu |03to |11Jas Hud
    |03on |1106 Apr 22 09:46:39|03.

    On 05 Apr 22 14:10:29, Jas Hud said the following to Atreyu:

    right now i have 1230 days.
    i dont even know why i rebooted. maybe the ovh network was going nuts.

    Its rare that Ovh has problems. I've used them for years.


    yeah it was that one time last year where their wood building burnt to the ground.

    one time something happened to my actual computer and they replaced it in 30 mins, which was nice. they're a good, cheap company.

    i hope they fixed their backup protocols, though. with the burnt down
    building they had no offsite backups.

    i backup to home all the time so i don't care either way.

    out of all the hosts i've used, big and small, ovh is the best provider.

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  • From Jas Hud@25:25/22 to Atreyu on Wed Apr 6 22:34:38 2022
    |03Quoting message from |11Atreyu |03to |11Lux
    |03on |1106 Apr 22 09:48:26|03.

    On 05 Apr 22 21:58:59, Lux said the following to Jas Hud:

    right now i have 1230 days.
    I could have uptime like that if it wasn't for Californias wonderous PSPS a constant power issues.

    Toronto Hydro is just as bad especially rolling blackouts, brownouts.

    I have an older APC 1400 in my home rack with a fresh set of batteries it h managed to keep the power in order here.


    i would move out of any area that had brownouts or blackouts. we just shouldn't have to deal with that in today's age. i've had power go out here a few times and i hate it. i miss living in an industrial area. that
    powergrid was solid.

    where i live now there's too many trees knocking down wires and too many crackheads running into poles.

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  • From Atreyu@25:25/5 to Jas Hud on Thu Apr 7 09:53:47 2022
    On 06 Apr 22 22:32:56, Jas Hud said the following to Atreyu:

    i hope they fixed their backup protocols, though. with the burnt down building they had no offsite backups.

    i backup to home all the time so i don't care either way.

    out of all the hosts i've used, big and small, ovh is the best provider.

    I didn't have a use for their backup strategy as I had everything scripted
    on my own to dump everything from the Ovh Linux VM in Montreal to my home network here every week. It ran like clockwork for years.

    Their DDOS mitigation strategy is state of the art. Entirely automated and very slick... they know their shit very well.

    When the Linux VM served its purpose and was no longer needed I shut it down and there was no BS with cancellations or fees or whatever you get elsewhere.

    Will always be a huge fan of them...

    Atreyu

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  • From Atreyu@25:25/5 to Jas Hud on Thu Apr 7 09:57:54 2022
    On 06 Apr 22 22:34:38, Jas Hud said the following to Atreyu:

    i would move out of any area that had brownouts or blackouts. we just shouldn't have to deal with that in today's age. i've had power go out here few times and i hate it. i miss living in an industrial area. that powergrid was solid.

    Toronto has shit power and the rates are stupid thanks to liberal mismanagement and spending sprees on all kinds of stupid feel-good bullshit.
    Up north they also built those ugly windmills everywhere. Its disgusting. Turned a very beautiful countryside into an ugly useless windmill farm.

    And thanks to them legalizing weed for votes, now we have tons of these ugly pathetic millenial dispenseries everywhere, worse than cheque-cashing joints and porn shops. These places are even next to schools and parks.

    If I could move to a real conservative area I would, even a redneck hicktown.

    Atreyu

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  • From Shitty@25:25/10 to Atreyu on Thu Apr 7 15:44:29 2022
    If I could move to a real conservative area I would, even a redneck hicktown.

    I've considered moving under the same circumstances, but consider the fact
    that liberal douchebaggery can take root in any town, and that the media can train monkeys faster than you can pack your bags.

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  • From Atreyu@25:25/5 to Shitty on Fri Apr 8 02:59:37 2022
    On 07 Apr 22 15:44:29, Shitty said the following to Atreyu:

    If I could move to a real conservative area I would, even a redneck hicktown.

    I've considered moving under the same circumstances, but consider the fact that liberal douchebaggery can take root in any town, and that the media can train monkeys faster than you can pack your bags.

    Possibly but I'm sure theres some *real* bible-thumping small town areas where everyone carries, everyone knows eachother, everyone was raised with manners.

    I don't even normally like the Jesus crowd but appreciate that they have some values to them.

    Atreyu

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  • From Jas Hud@25:25/22 to Atreyu on Sun Apr 10 22:17:35 2022
    |03Quoting message from |11Atreyu |03to |11Jas Hud
    |03on |1107 Apr 22 09:53:47|03.

    On 06 Apr 22 22:32:56, Jas Hud said the following to Atreyu:

    i hope they fixed their backup protocols, though. with the burnt down building they had no offsite backups.

    i backup to home all the time so i don't care either way.

    out of all the hosts i've used, big and small, ovh is the best provider.

    I didn't have a use for their backup strategy as I had everything scripted on my own to dump everything from the Ovh Linux VM in Montreal to my home network here every week. It ran like clockwork for years.

    Their DDOS mitigation strategy is state of the art. Entirely automated and very slick... they know their shit very well.

    When the Linux VM served its purpose and was no longer needed I shut it dow and there was no BS with cancellations or fees or whatever you get elsewher

    Will always be a huge fan of them...

    Atreyu

    i'm a big backup nut and it's saved me tons of times. I've also seen
    hundreds of stupid sysops lose everything and cry about it when they didn't back up.

    i prefer to download to home, but i did checkout ovh's backup system and i
    did upload vm backups a few times to it. i don't intend to keep using it because it's a pain in the ass to use their login and their server and
    there's restrictions of where i can upload to and also the space is limited.

    it's not desirable but it's better than nothing.

    i suppose if my server blew up again it would come in handy to restore from their backup instead of me uploading my backups for 2-3 days on my current connection that has a poor upload speed.

    I've used a lot of providers over the years, sometimes 3 at a time or more
    when i was into experimenting and torrent sites. ovh hasn't really let me down.

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  • From Jas Hud@25:25/22 to Shitty on Sun Apr 10 22:20:33 2022
    |03Quoting message from |11Shitty |03to |11Atreyu
    |03on |1107 Apr 22 15:44:29|03.

    If I could move to a real conservative area I would, even a redneck hicktown.

    I've considered moving under the same circumstances, but consider the fact that liberal douchebaggery can take root in any town, and that the media ca train monkeys faster than you can pack your bags.


    yeah, you're right. in my city there's a problem where everything fell apart from decades of democratic rule. we had a mayoral election and less than 30% of registered voters came out and voted. i didn't vote either because it was a shitty choice. oh but when they voted in the presidential election
    somehow we had more than a 100% voter turnout :D

    all they need to do is offer free shit and the idiots vote democrat.

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  • From Atreyu@25:25/5 to Jas Hud on Mon Apr 11 12:03:34 2022
    On 10 Apr 22 22:17:35, Jas Hud said the following to Atreyu:

    i prefer to download to home, but i did checkout ovh's backup system and i did upload vm backups a few times to it. i don't intend to keep using it because it's a pain in the ass to use their login and their server and there's restrictions of where i can upload to and also the space is limite

    I'm a backup nut as well. At home its hot-imaging live systems to encrypted external hardrives that are in a set that rotates every Friday night with
    one drive kept off-site. Before that it was LTO2... before that it was Dat72... never had a loss of anything, ever in 2 decades.

    There have been a few shit drives here that died over the years but restoring backups here is as easy as booting from recovery media to restore the image. There is no reinstalling OS's or software or any of that crap. The image is restored perfectly. If I had to restore to different hardware or a VM or whatever, that can be done too.

    I'm not really a fan of cloud backups because of the sheer amount of data transfer that would be involved with my setup and the fact that hard drives are so cheap now...

    Ovh backup plans do work but pretty sure its for a cluster of VM's or companies who do not mind spending for it.

    But I too have seen many Sysops lose everything. I don't understand it.

    Atreyu

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  • From Jas Hud@25:25/22 to Atreyu on Mon Apr 11 22:29:30 2022
    I'm not really a fan of cloud backups because of the sheer amount of data transfer that would be involved with my setup and the fact that hard drives are so cheap now...

    Ovh backup plans do work but pretty sure its for a cluster of VM's or companies who do not mind spending for it.



    Here's their shitty backup. you get an email and i dont think
    you can change the password. and it's internal on their network and only 100gigs

    --begin---
    Dear Customer,

    You are receiving this email as you have requested that we send you your FTP backup password.

    We'd like to inform you that your password has been changed for security reasons. You'll find all the necessary information below:

    Connection settings to the FTP server are:

    Login: nsXXXXX61.ip-###-###-70.net
    Password: xxxxxxxxxxx
    FTP server: ftpback-bhs#-###.ip-###-###-###.net

    You have 100 GB of disk space


    You must login through your server for the connection to happen.



    Regards,

    SoYouStart Customer Services

    --end ---


    so, it goes without saying, i dont use it.


    But I too have seen many Sysops lose everything. I don't understand it.



    they're fools!!

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  • From Atreyu@25:25/5 to Jas Hud on Tue Apr 12 09:23:31 2022
    On 11 Apr 22 22:29:30, Jas Hud said the following to Atreyu:

    Here's their shitty backup. you get an email and i dont think
    you can change the password. and it's internal on their network and only 100gigs

    Yeah 100 gigs is nothing. Might've been great 20 years ago.

    Atreyu

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  • From Mro@25:25/0 to Atreyu on Tue Apr 12 17:57:02 2022
    |03Quoting message from |11Atreyu |03to |11Jas Hud
    |03on |1112 Apr 22 09:23:31|03.

    On 11 Apr 22 22:29:30, Jas Hud said the following to Atreyu:

    Here's their shitty backup. you get an email and i dont think
    you can change the password. and it's internal on their network and only 100gigs

    Yeah 100 gigs is nothing. Might've been great 20 years ago.



    well i think they keep it small because it's for the essentials.

    but the logging in from inside the network is very annoying.

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  • From Shitty@25:25/10 to Jas Hud on Wed Apr 13 02:30:51 2022
    yeah, you're right. in my city there's a problem where everything fell apart from decades of democratic rule. we had a mayoral election and
    less than 30% of registered voters came out and voted. i didn't vote either because it was a shitty choice. oh but when they voted in the presidential election somehow we had more than a 100% voter turnout :D

    So you were wondering why nobody cared who the next mayor was gonna be, but when they elected Joe for president your question was answered: People who don't care about their country don't care about their city either.

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  • From Shitty@25:25/10 to Atreyu on Wed Apr 13 02:48:40 2022
    Ovh backup plans do work but pretty sure its for a cluster of VM's or companies who do not mind spending for it.

    I use VirtualMin (open source cPanel alternative) to back up my OVH VPS. I did a restore 1x so far and it worked.

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  • From Mro@25:25/0 to Shitty on Wed Apr 13 20:16:19 2022
    |03Quoting message from |11Shitty |03to |11Atreyu
    |03on |1113 Apr 22 02:48:40|03.

    Ovh backup plans do work but pretty sure its for a cluster of VM's or companies who do not mind spending for it.

    I use VirtualMin (open source cPanel alternative) to back up my OVH VPS. I a restore 1x so far and it worked.



    that looks pretty cool. i have proxmox to handle my VMS and when i backup i just use ssh and backup the files after shutting down the vm.

    i'll make a linux vm at home and check this out.

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  • From Jas Hud@25:25/22 to Shitty on Wed Apr 13 18:10:24 2022
    |03Quoting message from |11Shitty |03to |11Jas Hud
    |03on |1113 Apr 22 02:30:51|03.

    yeah, you're right. in my city there's a problem where everything fel apart from decades of democratic rule. we had a mayoral election and less than 30% of registered voters came out and voted. i didn't vote either because it was a shitty choice. oh but when they voted in the presidential election somehow we had more than a 100% voter turnout :D

    So you were wondering why nobody cared who the next mayor was gonna be, but when they elected Joe for president your question was answered: People who don't care about their country don't care about their city either.


    yeah it was so important to get rid of those mean tweets and that guy who was attacking the media that they had to cheat to win. i think in my area the numbers were so high during the election that it was pretty much impossible. and election observers were kicked out.

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  • From Lux@25:25/22 to Atreyu on Mon Jul 18 19:39:10 2022
    Toronto Hydro is just as bad especially rolling blackouts, brownouts.

    I have an older APC 1400 in my home rack with a fresh set of batteries it h managed to keep the power in order here.

    I have tried replacing batteries in my APC but I just end up with a bricked unit. I just replace the entire unit anymore.

    Its like they make it to sell batteries but then shortly after that a new unit.

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  • From Atreyu@25:25/5 to Lux on Tue Jul 19 08:30:30 2022
    On 18 Jul 22 19:39:10, Lux said the following to Atreyu:

    I have an older APC 1400 in my home rack with a fresh set of batteries it h managed to keep the power in order here.

    I have tried replacing batteries in my APC but I just end up with a bricked unit. I just replace the entire unit anymore.

    Its like they make it to sell batteries but then shortly after that a new unit.

    The APC 1400 is a rackmount commercial grade unit. This model is the SU series. There are four batteries on a sliding tray that can be hot-swapped at anytime. It costs about $240 CDN to replace them every 2 to 3 years, depending on how many times the system had to run on backup power. The system runs a self-test every 2 weeks to verify the condition of the batteries.

    The unit has a daughterboard upgrade slot which takes any APC smart-card, in this case I installed one with Ethernet and a temperature sensor probe. Any change in the power conditions trigger an email to my local SMTP relay. That relay is also programmed to email/post notices automatically after running on backup power for longer than a half hour. The Vmware servers, virtual machines and old BBS hardware can also be powered down after another condition is met.

    But..... I'm sure our resident professor has a farrrrrrrr better setup.

    Atreyu

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  • From Lux@25:25/22 to Atreyu on Sat Aug 13 21:17:15 2022
    The unit has a daughterboard upgrade slot which takes any APC smart-card, i this case I installed one with Ethernet and a temperature sensor probe. Any change in the power conditions trigger an email to my local SMTP relay. Tha relay is also programmed to email/post notices automatically after running backup power for longer than a half hour. The Vmware servers, virtual machi and old BBS hardware can also be powered down after another condition is me

    But..... I'm sure our resident professor has a farrrrrrrr better setup.

    That sounds fantastic, I just have the APC costco special keeps the internet and the wifi up for 10-20 minutes. Gets rid of the internet restarts from glitching power mostly.

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