• Decent free personal vpn server on the net whose client runs on linux?

    From Daniel S.@110:300/11 to All on Tue Jan 28 23:54:34 2014
    Subject: Decent free personal vpn server on the net whose client runs on
    linux?

    What's a good freeware personal vpn server for linux users
    that would be used infrequently when traveling at hotspots?

    I tried himachi and cyberghost, but both are not on linux.

    The use model would be to fire up the client when infrequently
    at hotspots, and that client would connect to an existing
    vpn server on the net.

    The low-volume traffic in the tunnel would be http, nntp,
    smtp, etc.

    What is a good free personal vpn server on the net whose
    client runs on linux?


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  • From Lusotec@110:300/11 to All on Wed Jan 29 01:26:54 2014
    Subject: Re: Decent free personal vpn server on the net whose client runs on linux?

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    Daniel S. wrote:
    What's a good freeware personal vpn server for linux users
    that would be used infrequently when traveling at hotspots?

    I tried himachi and cyberghost, but both are not on linux.

    The use model would be to fire up the client when infrequently
    at hotspots, and that client would connect to an existing
    vpn server on the net.

    The low-volume traffic in the tunnel would be http, nntp,
    smtp, etc.

    What is a good free personal vpn server on the net whose
    client runs on linux?

    ssh
    OpenVPN

    I prefer ssh for its flexibility but OpenVPN may be easier to setup.

    Regards
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  • From Pat@110:300/11 to All on Wed Jan 29 23:26:42 2014
    Subject: Re: Decent free personal vpn server on the net whose client runs
    on linux?

    Lusotec wrote:
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    Daniel S. wrote:
    What's a good freeware personal vpn server for linux users
    that would be used infrequently when traveling at hotspots?

    I tried himachi and cyberghost, but both are not on linux.

    The use model would be to fire up the client when infrequently
    at hotspots, and that client would connect to an existing
    vpn server on the net.

    The low-volume traffic in the tunnel would be http, nntp,
    smtp, etc.

    What is a good free personal vpn server on the net whose
    client runs on linux?

    ssh
    OpenVPN

    I prefer ssh for its flexibility but OpenVPN may be easier to setup.

    Regards
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    There are a few, but as far as free options you basically have
    PTPP-VPN (network-manager plug-in), OpenVPN for which there is a network-manager plug-in available also, and the new open source
    SoftEther VPN. PTPP-VPN is easiest to setup. Most of the free services
    change their password frequently unless you sign-up for an account, so
    that becomes not so convenient when you are on the go. Try a Google
    search to find a provider.

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  • From Daniel S.@110:300/11 to All on Fri Jan 31 06:44:03 2014
    Subject: Re: Decent free personal vpn server on the net whose client runs on
    linux?

    On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 01:26:54 +0000, Lusotec wrote:

    ssh OpenVPN
    I prefer ssh for its flexibility but OpenVPN may be easier to setup.

    I don't at all understand how OpenVPN can possibly work?
    Are there free personal VPN openVPN servers on the network?

    When I google, I don't find any IP addresses that I can
    connect to using OpenVPN as my client on Linux.

    Which free personal VPN OpenVPN server do YOU connect to?

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  • From Lusotec@110:300/11 to All on Fri Jan 31 11:33:51 2014
    Subject: Re: Decent free personal vpn server on the net whose client runs on linux?

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    Daniel S. wrote:
    Lusotec wrote:
    ssh OpenVPN
    I prefer ssh for its flexibility but OpenVPN may be easier to setup.

    I don't at all understand how OpenVPN can possibly work?

    OpenVPN creates VPNs that work like VPNs! So the question is what "work" do you need the VPN for? What exactly do you want to achieve with a VPN?

    Are there free personal VPN openVPN servers on the network?

    That is a question you should ask the administrators of the network and systems you want to connect to.

    When I google, I don't find any IP addresses that I can
    connect to using OpenVPN as my client on Linux.

    I'm getting the impression you don't understand what a VPN is for.

    Which free personal VPN OpenVPN server do YOU connect to?

    I connect to my own systems and systems I manage.

    Regards
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  • From Marek Novotny@1:0/0 to All on Fri Jan 31 16:33:21 2014
    Subject: Re: Decent free personal vpn server on the net whose client runs on
    linux?

    On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 06:44:03 +0000, Daniel S. wrote:

    On Wed, 29 Jan 2014 01:26:54 +0000, Lusotec wrote:

    ssh OpenVPN I prefer ssh for its flexibility but OpenVPN may be easier
    to setup.

    I don't at all understand how OpenVPN can possibly work? Are there free personal VPN openVPN servers on the network?

    I don't know of free OpenVPN servers but there certainly are paid
    services which support OpenVPN. I myself use WiTopia.

    When I google, I don't find any IP addresses that I can connect to using OpenVPN as my client on Linux.

    Which free personal VPN OpenVPN server do YOU connect to?

    --
    Marek Novotny
    A member of the Linux Foundation
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  • From Daniel S.@110:300/11 to All on Fri Jan 31 17:43:47 2014
    Subject: Re: Decent free personal vpn server on the net whose client runs on
    linux?

    On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 11:33:51 +0000, Lusotec wrote:

    OpenVPN creates VPNs that work like VPNs!

    That was my point.
    OpenVPN is the wrong solution.


    That is a question you should ask the administrators
    of the network and systems you want to connect to.

    Again, that was my whole point.
    It bears repeating that the definition of a
    PERSONAL VPN SERVER
    means a public vpn server on the net, which, either for
    free or for pay, will act as your VPN server.

    The whole point of the question is to find one whose
    client will work on Linux! :)

    I'm getting the impression you don't understand
    what a VPN is for.

    Actually, to be a bit blunt, I carefully crafted the
    original question so as NOT to confuse people with
    a public "personal vpn server" and, a "roll-your-own"
    VPN server, which OpenVPN is for - which is NOT at all
    in any way, shape or form, what I'm asking about.

    I connect to my own systems and systems I manage.

    Yes. I understand. But that's not the question.
    The question has NOTHING to do with the roll-your-own
    VPN servers.

    The question is asking what public "personal vpn servers"
    are out there whose clients run on Linux.


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  • From Daniel S.@110:300/11 to All on Fri Jan 31 17:48:48 2014
    Subject: Re: Decent free personal vpn server on the net whose client runs on
    linux?

    On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 10:33:21 -0600, Marek Novotny wrote:

    I don't know of free OpenVPN servers but there
    are paid services which support OpenVPN.
    I myself use WiTopia.

    Ah. That is interesting.

    WiTopia seems to be #8 in this list of the best
    public personal VPN servers:

    http://netforbeginners.about.com/od/readerpicks/tp/The-Best-VPN-Service-Provide rs.htm

    I see a setup for Windows:

    https://www.witopia.net/support/setting-up-and-using-your-vpn/manual-openvpnssl -setup/
    But, I don't see a Linux setup procedure yet.

    Are you on Linux?

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  • From Daniel S.@110:300/11 to All on Fri Jan 31 17:59:17 2014
    Subject: Re: Decent free personal vpn server on the net whose client runs on
    linux?

    On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 17:48:48 +0000, Daniel S. wrote:

    But, I don't see a Linux setup procedure yet.

    Found it!

    https://www.jumpthewall.net/support/setting-up-and-using-your-vpn/ubuntu-linux/

    It's not free, as you noted, so, I'll keep looking
    for a free one first.

    Most of the free public personal vpn servers are
    actually crippleware for free, which is all I
    really need at the moment.

    Then, if you need more, they they revert to payware,
    which is then faster (usually much faster) and which
    has many more servers (in many countries) to choose
    from.

    There's no way I'm going to roll my own public
    personal vpn server - so that's why the question
    in the first place.


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  • From Daniel S.@110:300/11 to All on Fri Jan 31 18:03:13 2014
    Subject: Re: Decent free personal vpn server on the net whose client runs on
    linux?

    On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 10:33:21 -0600, Marek Novotny wrote:

    I myself use WiTopia.

    I found the Ubuntu instructions for WiTopia here:

    https://www.jumpthewall.net/support/setting-up-and-using-your-vpn/ubuntu-linux/

    What scares me a bit, is the lack of support.

    It seems that the only protocols supported are:
    1. openVPN(SSL)
    2. Cisco IPSEC
    3. PPTP

    From my limited reading, PPTP is deprecated, so,
    that leaves us with SSL (which isn't all that
    strong, right?) and then IPSEC (which is what
    we'd want, right?).

    The only problem with the IPSEC solution is
    that Cisco is involved. My unsubstantiated hunch
    is that, for a public free personal vpn server,
    any CISCO software would be a bear to set up.

    It needs to be point and click, just like
    cyberghost is on Windows. Only on Linux.


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  • From Marek Novotny@1:0/0 to All on Fri Jan 31 18:12:06 2014
    Subject: Re: Decent free personal vpn server on the net whose client runs on
    linux?

    On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 17:48:48 +0000, Daniel S. wrote:

    On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 10:33:21 -0600, Marek Novotny wrote:

    I don't know of free OpenVPN servers but there are paid services which
    support OpenVPN.
    I myself use WiTopia.

    Ah. That is interesting.

    WiTopia seems to be #8 in this list of the best public personal VPN
    servers:
    http://netforbeginners.about.com/od/readerpicks/tp/The-Best-VPN-
    Service-Providers.htm

    I see a setup for Windows:
    https://www.witopia.net/support/setting-up-and-using-your-vpn/manual-
    openvpnssl-setup/
    But, I don't see a Linux setup procedure yet.

    Are you on Linux?

    I am exclusively on Linux. And they do indeed have a setup for any Linux
    that supports OpenVPN. They have a direct setup for Ubuntu, which works
    with Mint. And I have used it with Slackware. I haven't tried it with Suse
    11 sp3 yet, but all the plumbing is there so I doubt there would be any
    issue with that. Pretty sure I tested it with Fedora 20.

    I don't think I got it working on RedHad 6.5.

    --
    Marek Novotny
    A member of the Linux Foundation
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  • From Marek Novotny@1:0/0 to All on Fri Jan 31 18:26:16 2014
    Subject: Re: Decent free personal vpn server on the net whose client runs on
    linux?

    On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 18:03:13 +0000, Daniel S. wrote:

    On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 10:33:21 -0600, Marek Novotny wrote:

    I myself use WiTopia.

    I found the Ubuntu instructions for WiTopia here:
    https://www.jumpthewall.net/support/setting-up-and-using-your-vpn/
    ubuntu-linux/

    What scares me a bit, is the lack of support.

    It seems that the only protocols supported are:
    1. openVPN(SSL)
    2. Cisco IPSEC
    3. PPTP

    From my limited reading, PPTP is deprecated, so,
    that leaves us with SSL (which isn't all that strong, right?) and then
    IPSEC (which is what we'd want, right?).

    It does work with PPTP. I've used that as well, and also with another
    provider called, ProXPN. It's a lower grade encryption and I'm not too
    fond of it myself. I like OpenVPN. If you are using Ubuntu, Mint,
    Slackware or Fedora it is a very simple setup. All through the GUI and seriously easy as pie.

    The only problem with the IPSEC solution is that Cisco is involved. My unsubstantiated hunch is that, for a public free personal vpn server,
    any CISCO software would be a bear to set up.

    I've not tried it with the Cisco setup myself.

    It needs to be point and click, just like cyberghost is on Windows. Only
    on Linux.

    I've no idea who that is. It's not as easy as it is with Windows or the
    Mac. I have used WiTopia on the Mac. The install app gives you all the
    exit points to choose from. On the Linux client, I have to create the
    ones I want to use one by one. So I tend to ceate about 5 or 6 exit
    points around the world.

    Now using those is just a click away. You can enter into and exit out of
    the VPN end point very easily and through the Network Manager GUI.

    Here is a list of exit points:

    USA OpenVPN SSL VPN Gateways

    vpn.atlanta.witopia.net (Atlanta, GA)
    vpn.austin.witopia.net (Austin, TX)
    vpn.chicago.witopia.net (Chicago, IL)
    vpn.cincinnati.witopia.net (Cincinnati, OH)
    vpn.dallas.witopia.net (Dallas, TX)
    vpn.denver.witopia.net (Denver, CO)
    vpn.kansascity.witopia.net (Kansas City, MO)
    vpn.longbeach.witopia.net (Long Beach, CA)
    vpn.losangeles.witopia.net (Los Angeles, CA)
    vpn.lasvegas.witopia.net (Las Vegas, NV)
    vpn.miami.witopia.net (Miami, FL)
    vpn.newyork.witopia.net (New York, NY)
    vpn.phoenix.witopia.net {Phoenix, AZ)
    vpn.saintlouis.witopia.net (Saint Louis, MO)
    vpn.sanfrancisco.witopia.net (San Francisco, CA)
    vpn.seattle.witopia.net (Seattle, WA)
    vpn.washingtondc.witopia.net (Washington, DC)
    vpn.mexicocity.witopia.net (Mexico City, Mexico)

    Canada OpenVPN SSL VPN Gateways

    vpn.montreal.witopia.net (Montreal, Canada
    vpn.toronto.witopia.net (Toronto, Canada)
    vpn.vancouver.witopia.net (Vancouver, Canada)
    Central/South America OpenVPN SSL VPN Gateways

    vpn.buenosaires.witopia.net (Buenos Aires, Argentina) vpn.panamacity.witopia.net (Panama City, Panama)
    vpn.riodejaneiro.witopia.net (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil)
    vpn.saopaulo.witopia.net (Sao Paulo, Brazil)

    Europe OpenVPN SSL VPN Gateways

    vpn.amsterdam.witopia.net (Amsterdam, Netherlands)
    vpn.brussels.witopia.net (Brussels, Belgium)
    vpn.bucharest.witopia.net (Bucharest, Romania)
    vpn.copenhagen.witopia.net (Copenhagen, Denmark)
    vpn.dublin.witopia.net (Dublin, Ireland)
    vpn.frankfurt.witopia.net (Frankfurt, Germany)
    vpn.helsinki.witopia.net (Helsinki, Finland)
    vpn.istanbul.witopia.net (Istanbul, Turkey)
    vpn.kiev.witopia.net (Kiev, Ukraine)
    vpn.lisbon.witopia.net (Lisbon, Portugal)
    vpn.london.witopia.net (London, United Kingdom)
    vpn.luxembourg.witopia.net (Luxembourg, Luxembourg)
    vpn.madrid.witopia.net (Madrid, Spain)
    vpn.valencia.witopia.net (Valencia, Spain)
    vpn.manchester.witopia.net (Manchester, United Kingdom)
    vpn.milan.witopia.net (Milan, Italy)
    vpn.moscow.witopia.net (Moscow, Russian Federation)
    vpn.munich.witopia.net (Munich, Germany)
    vpn.oslo.witopia.net (Oslo, Norway)
    vpn.paris.witopia.net (Paris, France)
    vpn.prague.witopia.net (Prague, Czech Republic)
    vpn.riga.witopia.net (Riga, Latvia)
    vpn.rome.witopia.net (Rome, Italy)
    vpn.stockholm.witopia.net (Stockholm, Sweden)
    vpn.vienna.witopia.net (Vienna, Austria)
    vpn.vilnius.witopia.net (Vilnius, Lithuania)
    vpn.warsaw.witopia.net (Warsaw, Poland)
    vpn.zurich.witopia.net (Zurich, Switzerland)

    Africa/Middle East OpenVPN SSL VPN Gateways

    vpn.cairo.witopia.net (Cairo, Egypt)
    vpn.jerusalem.witopia.net (Jerusalem)

    Asia OpenVPN SSL VPN Gateways

    vpn.bangkok.witopia.net (Bangkok, Thailand)
    vpn.hanoi.witopia.net (Hanoi, Vietnam)
    vpn.hongkong.witopia.net (Hong Kong, China)
    vpn.kualalumpur.witopia.net (Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia)
    vpn.newdelhi.witopia.net (New Delhi, India)
    vpn.singapore.witopia.net (Singapore, Republic of Singapore) vpn.tokyo.witopia.net (Tokyo, JP)

    Oceania OpenVPN SSL VPN Gateways

    vpn.sydney.witopia.net (Sydney, Australia)

    --
    Marek Novotny
    A member of the Linux Foundation
    http://www.linuxfoundation.org

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  • From Lusotec@110:300/11 to All on Fri Jan 31 19:01:01 2014
    Subject: Re: Decent free personal vpn server on the net whose client runs on linux?

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    Daniel S. wrote:
    Lusotec wrote:
    OpenVPN creates VPNs that work like VPNs!

    That was my point.
    OpenVPN is the wrong solution.

    It may be so but since you did not describe your problem, all I could do was answer your question based on the limited information you provided.

    That is a question you should ask the administrators
    of the network and systems you want to connect to.

    Again, that was my whole point.
    It bears repeating that the definition of a
    PERSONAL VPN SERVER
    means a public vpn server on the net,

    VPN stands for Virtual *Private* Network. A "public vpn" is nonsense!

    which, either for free or for pay, will act as your VPN server.

    The whole point of the question is to find one whose
    client will work on Linux! :)

    I'm getting the impression you don't understand
    what a VPN is for.

    Actually, to be a bit blunt, I carefully crafted the
    original question so as NOT to confuse people with
    a public "personal vpn server" and, a "roll-your-own"
    VPN server, which OpenVPN is for - which is NOT at all
    in any way, shape or form, what I'm asking about.

    - From the your other posts what you seem to want is a secure anonymizing *proxy* to the Internet. That is not in any way a VPN.

    WiTopia, cyberghost and other similar companies provide anonymizing proxies
    to access the Internet.

    If you want a anonymizing proxy, your best bet is Tor. https://www.torproject.org/

    I connect to my own systems and systems I manage.

    Yes. I understand. But that's not the question.
    The question has NOTHING to do with the roll-your-own
    VPN servers.

    The question is asking what public "personal vpn servers"
    are out there whose clients run on Linux.

    Regards
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  • From Pat@110:300/11 to All on Fri Jan 31 19:31:36 2014
    Subject: Re: Decent free personal vpn server on the net whose client runs
    on linux?

    The old adage "you get what you pay for" holds true often still.
    Software is one of the few products which can be made available for
    free, economics will continue to determine the rest. I personally am reasonably satisfied with many free services offered on the Internet,
    and glad of their availability. Providing "Class A" service does not
    come cheap.

    Daniel S. wrote:
    On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 17:48:48 +0000, Daniel S. wrote:

    But, I don't see a Linux setup procedure yet.

    Found it!

    https://www.jumpthewall.net/support/setting-up-and-using-your-vpn/ubuntu-linux/

    It's not free, as you noted, so, I'll keep looking
    for a free one first.

    Most of the free public personal vpn servers are
    actually crippleware for free, which is all I
    really need at the moment.

    Then, if you need more, they they revert to payware,
    which is then faster (usually much faster) and which
    has many more servers (in many countries) to choose
    from.

    There's no way I'm going to roll my own public
    personal vpn server - so that's why the question
    in the first place.



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  • From root@110:300/11 to All on Fri Jan 31 22:22:39 2014
    Subject: Re: Decent free personal vpn server on the net whose client runs on linux?

    Marek Novotny <mach2@hushmail.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 18:03:13 +0000, Daniel S. wrote:

    On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 10:33:21 -0600, Marek Novotny wrote:

    I myself use WiTopia.

    I found the Ubuntu instructions for WiTopia here:
    https://www.jumpthewall.net/support/setting-up-and-using-your-vpn/
    ubuntu-linux/

    What scares me a bit, is the lack of support.

    It seems that the only protocols supported are:
    1. openVPN(SSL)
    2. Cisco IPSEC
    3. PPTP

    From my limited reading, PPTP is deprecated, so,
    that leaves us with SSL (which isn't all that strong, right?) and then
    IPSEC (which is what we'd want, right?).

    It does work with PPTP. I've used that as well, and also with another provider called, ProXPN. It's a lower grade encryption and I'm not too
    fond of it myself. I like OpenVPN. If you are using Ubuntu, Mint,
    Slackware or Fedora it is a very simple setup. All through the GUI and seriously easy as pie.

    The only problem with the IPSEC solution is that Cisco is involved. My
    unsubstantiated hunch is that, for a public free personal vpn server,
    any CISCO software would be a bear to set up.

    I've not tried it with the Cisco setup myself.

    It needs to be point and click, just like cyberghost is on Windows. Only
    on Linux.

    I've no idea who that is. It's not as easy as it is with Windows or the
    Mac. I have used WiTopia on the Mac. The install app gives you all the
    exit points to choose from. On the Linux client, I have to create the
    ones I want to use one by one. So I tend to ceate about 5 or 6 exit
    points around the world.

    Now using those is just a click away. You can enter into and exit out of
    the VPN end point very easily and through the Network Manager GUI.

    Here is a list of exit points:

    USA OpenVPN SSL VPN Gateways

    vpn.atlanta.witopia.net (Atlanta, GA)
    vpn.austin.witopia.net (Austin, TX)
    vpn.chicago.witopia.net (Chicago, IL)
    vpn.cincinnati.witopia.net (Cincinnati, OH)
    vpn.dallas.witopia.net (Dallas, TX)
    vpn.denver.witopia.net (Denver, CO)
    vpn.kansascity.witopia.net (Kansas City, MO)
    vpn.longbeach.witopia.net (Long Beach, CA)
    vpn.losangeles.witopia.net (Los Angeles, CA)
    vpn.lasvegas.witopia.net (Las Vegas, NV)
    vpn.miami.witopia.net (Miami, FL)
    vpn.newyork.witopia.net (New York, NY)
    vpn.phoenix.witopia.net {Phoenix, AZ)
    vpn.saintlouis.witopia.net (Saint Louis, MO)
    vpn.sanfrancisco.witopia.net (San Francisco, CA)
    vpn.seattle.witopia.net (Seattle, WA)
    vpn.washingtondc.witopia.net (Washington, DC)
    vpn.mexicocity.witopia.net (Mexico City, Mexico)

    Canada OpenVPN SSL VPN Gateways

    vpn.montreal.witopia.net (Montreal, Canada
    vpn.toronto.witopia.net (Toronto, Canada)
    vpn.vancouver.witopia.net (Vancouver, Canada)
    Central/South America OpenVPN SSL VPN Gateways

    vpn.buenosaires.witopia.net (Buenos Aires, Argentina) vpn.panamacity.witopia.net (Panama City, Panama)
    vpn.riodejaneiro.witopia.net (Rio de Janeiro, Brazil) vpn.saopaulo.witopia.net (Sao Paulo, Brazil)

    Europe OpenVPN SSL VPN Gateways

    vpn.amsterdam.witopia.net (Amsterdam, Netherlands)
    vpn.brussels.witopia.net (Brussels, Belgium)
    vpn.bucharest.witopia.net (Bucharest, Romania)
    vpn.copenhagen.witopia.net (Copenhagen, Denmark)
    vpn.dublin.witopia.net (Dublin, Ireland)
    vpn.frankfurt.witopia.net (Frankfurt, Germany)
    vpn.helsinki.witopia.net (Helsinki, Finland)
    vpn.istanbul.witopia.net (Istanbul, Turkey)
    vpn.kiev.witopia.net (Kiev, Ukraine)
    vpn.lisbon.witopia.net (Lisbon, Portugal)
    vpn.london.witopia.net (London, United Kingdom)
    vpn.luxembourg.witopia.net (Luxembourg, Luxembourg)
    vpn.madrid.witopia.net (Madrid, Spain)
    vpn.valencia.witopia.net (Valencia, Spain)
    vpn.manchester.witopia.net (Manchester, United Kingdom)
    vpn.milan.witopia.net (Milan, Italy)
    vpn.moscow.witopia.net (Moscow, Russian Federation)
    vpn.munich.witopia.net (Munich, Germany)
    vpn.oslo.witopia.net (Oslo, Norway)
    vpn.paris.witopia.net (Paris, France)
    vpn.prague.witopia.net (Prague, Czech Republic)
    vpn.riga.witopia.net (Riga, Latvia)
    vpn.rome.witopia.net (Rome, Italy)
    vpn.stockholm.witopia.net (Stockholm, Sweden)
    vpn.vienna.witopia.net (Vienna, Austria)
    vpn.vilnius.witopia.net (Vilnius, Lithuania)
    vpn.warsaw.witopia.net (Warsaw, Poland)
    vpn.zurich.witopia.net (Zurich, Switzerland)

    Africa/Middle East OpenVPN SSL VPN Gateways

    vpn.cairo.witopia.net (Cairo, Egypt)
    vpn.jerusalem.witopia.net (Jerusalem)

    Asia OpenVPN SSL VPN Gateways

    vpn.bangkok.witopia.net (Bangkok, Thailand)
    vpn.hanoi.witopia.net (Hanoi, Vietnam)
    vpn.hongkong.witopia.net (Hong Kong, China)
    vpn.kualalumpur.witopia.net (Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia)
    vpn.newdelhi.witopia.net (New Delhi, India)
    vpn.singapore.witopia.net (Singapore, Republic of Singapore) vpn.tokyo.witopia.net (Tokyo, JP)

    Oceania OpenVPN SSL VPN Gateways

    vpn.sydney.witopia.net (Sydney, Australia)


    Can the exit point be changed easily?

    --- MBSE BBS v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux-i386)
    * Origin: Linux Advocacy (110:300/11@linuxnet)
  • From Marek Novotny@1:0/0 to All on Fri Jan 31 23:22:40 2014
    Subject: Re: Decent free personal vpn server on the net whose client runs on
    linux?

    On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 22:22:39 +0000, root wrote:

    Marek Novotny <mach2@hushmail.com> wrote:

    I've no idea who that is. It's not as easy as it is with Windows or the
    Mac. I have used WiTopia on the Mac. The install app gives you all the
    exit points to choose from. On the Linux client, I have to create the
    ones I want to use one by one. So I tend to ceate about 5 or 6 exit
    points around the world.

    Now using those is just a click away. You can enter into and exit out
    of the VPN end point very easily and through the Network Manager GUI.

    Here is a list of exit points:

    [...]

    Can the exit point be changed easily?

    Yes, you essentially make a series of VPN settings, one for exit point in
    the Network Manager. Activating one is as simple as choosing it from your selection of points in Network Manager. You can easily activate a point
    in Russia, then exist that, then enter another in Mexico if you like. It
    takes just a few seconds.

    --
    Marek Novotny
    A member of the Linux Foundation
    http://www.linuxfoundation.org

    --- MBSE BBS v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux-i386)
    * Origin: The Kofo System II BBS telnet://fido2.kofobbs.
  • From Chris Davies@110:300/11 to All on Sat Feb 1 00:34:00 2014
    Subject: Re: Decent free personal vpn server on the net whose client runs on linux?
    Reply-To: chris@roaima.co.uk

    Daniel S. <danielsijakovic@gmail.com> wrote:
    It seems that the only protocols supported are:
    2. Cisco IPSEC

    The only problem with the IPSEC solution is that Cisco is involved.

    The vpnc utility works really well with many/most Cisco endpoints.

    Chris

    --- MBSE BBS v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux-i386)
    * Origin: Roaima. Harrogate, North Yorkshire, UK (110:300/11@linuxnet)
  • From Chris Davies@110:300/11 to All on Sat Feb 1 00:31:33 2014
    Reply-To: chris@roaima.co.uk

    Lusotec <nomail@nomail.not> wrote:
    From the your other posts what you seem to want is a secure anonymizing *proxy* to the Internet. That is not in any way a VPN.

    Unfortunately, this is how such a service is now sold.
    Misdescription? Yes. Irritating? Yes. Fixable? No.

    Chris

    --- MBSE BBS v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux-i386)
    * Origin: Roaima. Harrogate, North Yorkshire, UK (110:300/11@linuxnet)
  • From Daniel S.@110:300/11 to All on Sat Feb 1 04:48:16 2014
    Subject: Re: Decent free personal vpn server on the net whose client runs on
    linux?

    On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 13:31:36 -0600, Pat wrote:

    The old adage "you get what you pay for" holds true

    Hi there Pat,

    The advantage of free software is that you can
    often experiment and learn what you need by
    using the free stuff first.

    Then, when it's time to buy the payware, you're
    well aware of what you can get for free, and
    what the limitations are.

    That way, you're a much better educated consumer
    when it comes to plonking down real dollars
    for functionality.

    If you don't test things out first, then you're
    at the mercy of marketing. From my experience,
    the marketing guys oversell what they have, but,
    more importantly, they gloss over the disadvantages.

    So, the old adage of not paying for the milk
    if you can get it free holds true, still today.


    --- MBSE BBS v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux-i386)
    * Origin: Mixmin (110:300/11@linuxnet)
  • From Daniel S.@110:300/11 to All on Sat Feb 1 04:55:10 2014
    Subject: Re: Decent free personal vpn server on the net whose client runs on
    linux?

    On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 19:01:01 +0000, Lusotec wrote:

    It may be so but since you did not describe your problem,
    all I could do was answer your question based on the
    limited information you provided.

    I do agree that I didn't provide a lot of detail, so,
    I apologize.

    The goal would be to run a client on the Linux PC
    and, instantly, ALL traffic is then in the encrypted
    tunnel.

    That's it (i.e., that's how personal vpn servers work).

    We already have this for Windows.
    I'm just looking for the Linux variant of the same thing.

    BTW, all traffic means your nntp, smtp, pop, http, ftp,
    telnet, ping, tracert, etc., traffic.

    It should be:
    a) Simple (the most you should have to do is run a client)
    b) Fast (1Mbit per second is OK for low-volume stuff)
    c) Secure (IPSEC would be preferred, 1024 bits preferred)

    For this, Tor can't possibly work (except for http/https
    traffic). And, rolling your own VPN server isn't what
    we're after.


    --- MBSE BBS v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux-i386)
    * Origin: Mixmin (110:300/11@linuxnet)
  • From Daniel S.@110:300/11 to All on Sat Feb 1 05:01:21 2014
    Subject: Re: Decent free personal vpn server on the net whose client runs on
    linux?

    On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 19:01:01 +0000, Lusotec wrote:

    VPN stands for Virtual *Private* Network.
    A "public vpn" is nonsense!

    Again, I apologize.
    I am not an expert (otherwise I wouldn't ask).

    Some people understood - but - I may easily have
    used the wrong technical words for what I ask.

    What we're talking about here, tactically, is a
    set of freely available existing VPN servers all
    over the world, accessible to the user on Linux.

    This existing set of servers is usually free for
    limited bandwidth, and of increasing prices for
    increasing performance.

    The interface to this set of servers is usually
    by a client that runs on the local PC, and, once
    the connection is made from your local client to
    the VPN server on the net, ALL traffic is
    subsequently encrypted.

    I can easily find whatever-you-would-call-that
    for Windows machines; the problem is finding the
    same services for Linux.

    Given that's the long-winded explanation, what
    would *you* call that?

    When I google for "personal VPN servers", or for
    "personal vpn services", I seem to find web pages
    discussing exactly what I'm looking for.

    However, I'm no expert.

    So, what would *you* call the type of vpn service
    and server I'm looking for to be free and available
    to linux users?


    --- MBSE BBS v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux-i386)
    * Origin: Mixmin (110:300/11@linuxnet)
  • From Daniel S.@110:300/11 to All on Sat Feb 1 05:07:15 2014
    Subject: Re: Decent free personal vpn server on the net whose client runs on
    linux?

    On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 19:01:01 +0000, Lusotec wrote:

    - From the your other posts what you seem to want is a secure anonymizing *proxy* to the Internet. That is not in any way a VPN.

    I already have proxies galore, but they only work,
    AFAIK, for web protocols.

    For example, I rarely, if ever, use a web browser to
    get anything done (e.g., smtp, pop, nntp, ftp, telnet, etc.),
    but, if all I had wanted was a proxy, I'd simply point
    my Linux web browser to a freeware proxy server, e.g.:
    https://cyberghostvpn.com/proxy/?proxy=gb.proxy.cyberghostvpn.com

    But, that would be nearly useless for anything other
    than mere http traffic.

    For example, how would I use a proxy to carry on
    this nntp USENET conversation with you?


    --- MBSE BBS v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux-i386)
    * Origin: Mixmin (110:300/11@linuxnet)
  • From Daniel S.@110:300/11 to All on Sat Feb 1 05:09:47 2014
    Subject: Re: Decent free personal vpn server on the net whose client runs on
    linux?

    On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 19:01:01 +0000, Lusotec wrote:

    If you want a anonymizing proxy, your best bet
    is Tor.

    I've used the Tor Browser Bundle for years.
    It only works for web traffic.

    To be clear, I guess, there ARE ways to be
    creative with Tor, by adding SOCKS5 and other
    things, but it's really complicated to get Tor
    to do anything other than web traffic.

    For example, how would I carry on this port
    119 nntp USENET conversation with you over Tor?

    --- MBSE BBS v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux-i386)
    * Origin: Mixmin (110:300/11@linuxnet)
  • From Daniel S.@110:300/11 to All on Sat Feb 1 05:15:48 2014
    On Sat, 01 Feb 2014 00:31:33 +0000, Chris Davies wrote:

    From the your other posts what you seem to want is a secure anonymizing
    *proxy* to the Internet. That is not in any way a VPN.

    Unfortunately, this is how such a service is now sold.
    Misdescription? Yes. Irritating? Yes. Fixable? No.

    Hi Chris,

    I'm confused by your comment.
    A proxy is not VPN.

    At least not the way *I* understand proxies.

    If I had wanted an encrypted proxy on Linux, I'd already
    have it, simply by typing "free encrypted proxy" on Google.

    The first one that comes up, for example, is: https://cyberghostvpn.com/proxy/?proxy=gb.proxy.cyberghostvpn.com

    But, as you know, there are many others.

    Since many use a web interface, that would make
    the Linux problem go away, as my particular problem
    is that I can find what I need, but for Windows, and
    not (yet) for Linux.

    But, to reiterate, the goal is to encrypt ALL traffic,
    such that someone local, for example, my ISP or the guy
    sitting next to me in a local hotspot, can't read ANYTHING.

    So, I don't see how a proxy has any role here, since it
    wouldn't necessarily handle ALL traffic coming out of my
    PC.

    Or, do I misunderstand proxies?


    --- MBSE BBS v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux-i386)
    * Origin: Mixmin (110:300/11@linuxnet)
  • From Daniel S.@110:300/11 to All on Sat Feb 1 05:18:04 2014
    Subject: Re: Decent free personal vpn server on the net whose client runs on
    linux?

    On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 12:26:16 -0600, Marek Novotny wrote:

    It does work with PPTP. I've used that as well,
    and also with another provider called, ProXPN.
    It's a lower grade encryption and I'm not too
    fond of it myself.

    From what I've read, it's not even worth exploring
    PPTP, since stronger encryption of all port traffic
    is available elsewhere.

    What I'm aiming for is IPSEC, if I can get that.

    If not, I guess SSL is a distant second.

    But, again, I'm no expert.

    What *should* we aim for if our goal is to prevent
    a knowledgeable person from snooping on *any* of
    our port traffic on our side (e.g., local WiFi or
    the local ISP)?


    --- MBSE BBS v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux-i386)
    * Origin: Mixmin (110:300/11@linuxnet)
  • From Daniel S.@110:300/11 to All on Sat Feb 1 05:22:47 2014
    Subject: Re: Decent free personal vpn server on the net whose client runs on
    linux?

    On Sat, 01 Feb 2014 04:55:10 +0000, Daniel S. wrote:

    For this, Tor can't possibly work

    BTW, even Tor doesn't work, since it doesn't
    hide the fact you're still connecting, in the clear,
    to a Tor directory server in order to get the
    list of available entry, middle, and exit nodes.

    VPN is the ONLY solution that I know of that
    will work.

    We already (easily) have free personal vpn services
    available for Windows - which encrypt *all* traffic
    (not just web traffic).

    The goal is simply to find the same thing, but,
    for Linux.

    --- MBSE BBS v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux-i386)
    * Origin: Mixmin (110:300/11@linuxnet)
  • From Daniel S.@110:300/11 to All on Sat Feb 1 05:25:03 2014
    Subject: Re: Decent free personal vpn server on the net whose client runs on
    linux?

    On Sat, 01 Feb 2014 05:01:21 +0000, Daniel S. wrote:

    I can easily find whatever-you-would-call-that for
    Windows; the problem is finding the service for Linux.

    I guess, we could also look for the client to run,
    instead of on the Linux PC, on the linux router.

    That way, all the traffic emanating from a particular
    household would be in the VPN tunnel.

    But, that wouldn't work at a hotspot - so - to start
    simple, all I'm asking is for a decent free personal
    vpn service whose clients run on Linux laptops.


    --- MBSE BBS v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux-i386)
    * Origin: Mixmin (110:300/11@linuxnet)
  • From Daniel S.@110:300/11 to All on Sat Feb 1 05:29:45 2014
    Subject: Re: Decent free personal vpn server on the net whose client runs on
    linux?

    On Sat, 01 Feb 2014 05:09:47 +0000, Daniel S. wrote:

    For example, how would I carry on this port 119 nntp
    USENET conversation with you over Tor?

    BTW, I'm well aware of Google Groups, and other
    web-to-nntp (and smtp-to-nntp) gateways, but, that
    still wouldn't work for, say, ftp.

    So, what is needed is simple, if it can be found.
    I can easily find it for Windows; so the goal is
    the following:

    1. Works on Linux.
    2. Free (if possible, for low volumes).
    3. Encrypts all traffic on all ports.

    Googling for "personal vpn service free linux",
    there are a few that I will strive to check out,
    but, I was hoping to get security-related advice
    here in order to point me in the best direction
    (based on your prior experiences).

    https://www.google.de/search?q=personal+vpn+service+free+linux


    --- MBSE BBS v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux-i386)
    * Origin: Mixmin (110:300/11@linuxnet)
  • From Daniel S.@110:300/11 to All on Sat Feb 1 05:38:36 2014
    Subject: Re: Decent free personal vpn server on the net whose client runs on
    linux?

    On Sat, 01 Feb 2014 05:29:45 +0000, Daniel S. wrote:

    Googling for "personal vpn service free linux",
    there are a few that I will strive to check out,
    but, I was hoping to get security-related advice here in order to point me
    in the best direction (based on your prior experiences).

    For example, these all purport to provide *payware*
    personal vpn services for Linux users: https://www.bestvpn.com/blog/3625/best-vpn-for-linux/

    But, the goal is to try out the freeware first.

    Notice this guy asks the same question, but, as with
    this thread, the confusion with proxies and roll-your-own
    corporate-style VPN gets in the way: http://askubuntu.com/questions/6853/is-there-a-free-service-like-hotspot-shield -for-ubuntu

    To restate, the goal is simple:
    1. Free (for low volume, payware for increased performance is OK)
    2. All ports are encrypted (not just port 80)
    3. Connect to *existing* VPN servers on the net
    4. Linux (since free solutions for Windows abound)

    We can easily get the first 3 out of 4, e.g., http://brainlandbots.wordpress.com/2013/04/08/top-10-free-vpn-virtual-private-n etwork-services/

    The hard part is #4.
    Which is why I'm asking *you* for your experienced advice!

    --- MBSE BBS v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux-i386)
    * Origin: Mixmin (110:300/11@linuxnet)
  • From Marek Novotny@1:0/0 to All on Sat Feb 1 06:31:41 2014
    Subject: Re: Decent free personal vpn server on the net whose client runs on
    linux?

    On Sat, 01 Feb 2014 05:18:04 +0000, Daniel S. wrote:

    On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 12:26:16 -0600, Marek Novotny wrote:

    It does work with PPTP. I've used that as well,
    and also with another provider called, ProXPN. It's a lower grade
    encryption and I'm not too fond of it myself.

    From what I've read, it's not even worth exploring PPTP, since stronger encryption of all port traffic is available elsewhere.

    What I'm aiming for is IPSEC, if I can get that.

    If not, I guess SSL is a distant second.

    But, again, I'm no expert.

    What *should* we aim for if our goal is to prevent a knowledgeable
    person from snooping on *any* of our port traffic on our side (e.g.,
    local WiFi or the local ISP)?

    I'm no expert either. That being said I do use WiTopia, which uses BF-
    CBC. I think you'll be fine with that. Once connected via OpenVPN those
    local to you will just see encrypted traffic. You'll essentially be at
    the end point. Nothing to snoop on the local area network. If the tunnel senses someone trying to crack it, it will create an alternate routing
    tunnel and essentially walk away from that attempt.

    Say you attach yourself to a Zurich end point, and you connect to some
    spot where snoops are watching. They'll trace you to the Zurich end
    point. If they are a government and the vpn provider keeps a log they
    could discover who was using that particular IP address at that
    particular time. If no one keeps a log or if the log is destroyed say
    every 30 minutes, then they have 30 minutes to get that request in to
    whom ever owns that IP address in that country.

    If you use it for a short period, then disconnect it, then attach
    yourself to another country for a short period, and do this again and
    again. It's harder to discover you. If you switch from one service to
    another, then it gets even harder.

    In my opinion, it's all about the log and how long you stay in the
    tunnel. I tend to pop in and out. I have two vpn providers, a proxy
    provider and my own ssh server. Perhaps a government will unwind it, but
    your every day guy won't stand a chance. I have a couple other tricks
    which I won't mention which further complicate this.

    --
    Marek Novotny
    A member of the Linux Foundation
    http://www.linuxfoundation.org

    --- MBSE BBS v1.0.1 (GNU/Linux-i386)
    * Origin: The Kofo System II BBS telnet://fido2.kofobbs.
  • From p-0''0-h the cat (ES)@110:300/11 to All on Sat Feb 1 11:34:41 2014
    Subject: Re: Decent free personal vpn server on the net whose client runs on linux?

    On Sat, 1 Feb 2014 05:38:36 +0000 (UTC), "Daniel S." <danielsijakovic@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 01 Feb 2014 05:29:45 +0000, Daniel S. wrote:

    Googling for "personal vpn service free linux",
    there are a few that I will strive to check out,
    but, I was hoping to get security-related advice here in order to point me >> in the best direction (based on your prior experiences).

    For example, these all purport to provide *payware*
    personal vpn services for Linux users: >https://www.bestvpn.com/blog/3625/best-vpn-for-linux/

    But, the goal is to try out the freeware first.

    Notice this guy asks the same question, but, as with
    this thread, the confusion with proxies and roll-your-own
    corporate-style VPN gets in the way: >http://askubuntu.com/questions/6853/is-there-a-free-service-like-hotspot-shiel d-for-ubuntu

    To restate, the goal is simple:
    1. Free (for low volume, payware for increased performance is OK)
    2. All ports are encrypted (not just port 80)
    3. Connect to *existing* VPN servers on the net
    4. Linux (since free solutions for Windows abound)

    We can easily get the first 3 out of 4, e.g., >http://brainlandbots.wordpress.com/2013/04/08/top-10-free-vpn-virtual-private- network-services/

    The hard part is #4.
    Which is why I'm asking *you* for your experienced advice!

    Why do you want to aggregate all your traffic at an endpoint owned by
    someone or some company who probably exists in another legal
    jurisdiction. Why do you trust them? If it's free you probably have even
    less legal rights. Explain to me why you think this is a secure
    solution.

    --
    p-0.0-h the cat

    Internet Terrorist, Mass sock puppeteer, Agent provocateur, Gutter rat,
    Devil incarnate, Linux user#666, BaStarD hacker, Resident evil, Monkey Boy, Certifiable criminal, Spineless cowardly scum, textbook Psychopath,
    the SCOURGE, l33t p00h d3 tr0ll, p00h == lam3r, p00h == tr0ll, troll infâme, the OVERCAT [The BEARPAIR are dead, and we are its murderers], lowlife troll, shyster [pending approval by STATE_TERROR], cripple, sociopath, kook,
    smug prick, smartarse, arsehole, moron, idiot, imbecile, snittish scumbag, liar, total ******* retard, and shill.

    Honorary SHYSTER and FRAUD awarded for services to Haberdashery.
    By Appointment to God Frank-Lin.

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  • From Lusotec@110:300/11 to All on Sat Feb 1 12:07:31 2014
    Subject: Re: Decent free personal vpn server on the net whose client runs on linux?

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    Daniel S. wrote:
    Lusotec wrote:
    If you want a anonymizing proxy, your best bet
    is Tor.

    I've used the Tor Browser Bundle for years.
    It only works for web traffic.

    Tor works for any TCP traffic.

    To be clear, I guess, there ARE ways to be
    creative with Tor, by adding SOCKS5 and other
    things, but it's really complicated to get Tor
    to do anything other than web traffic.

    For example, how would I carry on this port
    119 nntp USENET conversation with you over Tor?

    There are a few ways. The simplest way is probably to setup your NNTP client to use the Tor SOCKS proxy (usually at 127.0.0.1:9050).

    Regards.
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  • From Lusotec@110:300/11 to All on Sat Feb 1 12:20:28 2014
    Subject: Re: Decent free personal vpn server on the net whose client runs on linux?

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    Daniel S. wrote:
    Lusotec wrote:
    - From the your other posts what you seem to want is a secure anonymizing
    *proxy* to the Internet. That is not in any way a VPN.

    I already have proxies galore, but they only work,
    AFAIK, for web protocols.

    For example, I rarely, if ever, use a web browser to
    get anything done (e.g., smtp, pop, nntp, ftp, telnet, etc.),
    but, if all I had wanted was a proxy, I'd simply point
    my Linux web browser to a freeware proxy server, e.g.:
    https://cyberghostvpn.com/proxy/?proxy=gb.proxy.cyberghostvpn.com

    But, that would be nearly useless for anything other
    than mere http traffic.

    For example, how would I use a proxy to carry on
    this nntp USENET conversation with you?

    The preferred way is to configure the Internet client/application (e.g. NNTP client) to use the proxy you want (e.g. a default local Tor would be at 127.0.0.1:9050).

    Most Internet clients/applications allow setting a proxy. For those that do not, tsocks (or similar tools) can force native dynamic linked applications
    to use a SOCKS proxy.

    Regards.
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  • From Lusotec@110:300/11 to All on Sat Feb 1 12:44:08 2014
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    Chris Davies wrote:
    Lusotec wrote:
    From the your other posts what you seem to want is a secure anonymizing
    *proxy* to the Internet. That is not in any way a VPN.

    Unfortunately, this is how such a service is now sold.
    Misdescription? Yes. Irritating? Yes. Fixable? No.

    Chris

    The problem is that unknowingly/naively using a proxy (especially those passing themselves as VPNs) actually decreases security.

    Regards.
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  • From Chris Davies@110:300/11 to All on Sat Feb 1 14:50:33 2014
    Reply-To: chris@roaima.co.uk

    Daniel S. <danielsijakovic@gmail.com> wrote:
    From the your other posts what you seem to want is a secure anonymizing
    *proxy* to the Internet. That is not in any way a VPN.

    On Sat, 01 Feb 2014 00:31:33 +0000, Chris Davies wrote:
    Unfortunately, this is how such a service is now sold.
    Misdescription? Yes. Irritating? Yes. Fixable? No.

    I'm confused by your comment.
    A proxy is not VPN.
    At least not the way *I* understand proxies.

    The way it is sold is that the user is sold a VPN connection that
    terminates in one of several nominated endpoints, usually in a different country. The user's traffic is encrypted via the VPN to the endpoint,
    at which point it is proxied to the target.

    Yes, it's a proxy but without the complexity of needing the user to
    worry about how to encrypt the traffic from their PC to the proxy itself.

    OpenVPN + Squid makes for a very convenient solution, particularly
    when your endpoints are scattered around the world. In fact, you could
    offer OpenVPN to a "local" endpoint, and have that endpoint tunnel your
    traffic over another encrypted link to a remote endpoint where the traffic appeared on the Internet in its original unencrypted form. With enough aggregated traffic flowing between the hosted endpoints it becomes much
    harder for others to identify where the original user is actually trying
    to reach.

    Chris

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  • From Daniel S.@110:300/11 to All on Sun Feb 2 00:12:01 2014
    Subject: Re: Decent free personal vpn server on the net whose client runs on
    linux?

    On Sat, 01 Feb 2014 00:31:41 -0600, Marek Novotny wrote:

    I do use WiTopia, which uses BF-CBC. Once connected via OpenVPN
    those local to you will just see encrypted traffic.

    I like that those local can't see my data.

    If no one keeps a log or if the log is destroyed

    My primary goal is to eliminate local eavesdroppers, so, logs,
    while important, are secondary (to me).

    If you switch from one service to another, then it
    gets even harder.

    I like that idea!

    I have a couple other tricks which I won't
    mention which further complicate this.

    I have a few tricks too, but, mine are rather
    basic. For example, I can add Tor, and I can
    switch up the OS and browser, and I can turn
    off javascript, etc. ...


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  • From Daniel S.@110:300/11 to All on Sun Feb 2 00:42:18 2014
    On Sat, 01 Feb 2014 14:50:33 +0000, Chris Davies wrote:

    OpenVPN + Squid makes for a very convenient solution

    I had never heard of Squid before.

    Squid seems to be a proxy server.
    The OpenVPN apparently is the client that works on
    my laptop.

    But, where do I find an existing free Squid proxy
    server on the net?


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  • From Daniel S.@110:300/11 to All on Sun Feb 2 00:45:06 2014
    Subject: Re: Decent free personal vpn server on the net whose client runs on
    linux?

    On Sat, 01 Feb 2014 12:20:28 +0000, Lusotec wrote:

    The preferred way is to configure the Internet client/application (e.g.
    NNTP client) to use the proxy you want (e.g. a default local Tor would
    be at 127.0.0.1:9050).

    That's complicated enough, but, then you have to figure
    out how to set up the proxy for p2p.

    And then how to set it up for smtp.
    And then for pop/imap.
    etc.

    What I like about free public personal vpn servers,
    is that, with a single client install, *all* ports
    are protected, in one fell swoop.


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  • From Daniel S.@110:300/11 to All on Sun Feb 2 01:14:22 2014
    Subject: Re: Decent free personal vpn server on the net whose client runs on
    linux?

    On Sat, 01 Feb 2014 11:34:41 +0000, p-0''0-h the cat (ES) wrote:

    Why do you want to aggregate all your traffic at an endpoint
    owned by someone or some company who probably exists in another
    legal jurisdiction.
    Why do you trust them?

    What I "trust" about the free public personal vpn services
    (whatever you want to call them), is that a *local* adversary
    will be thwarted.

    I don't disagree with you that a state-sponsored adversary
    will merely be inconvenienced.


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