• HOW2 test ssh 'separately'?

    From not.socialnetwork@gmail.com@110:110/2002 to All on Sat Jun 7 06:59:43 2014
    This http-based gmail is intolerable!
    I realy didn't want to know about: ssh, TLS/SSL ....

    AFAIK gmail needs TLS/SSL.

    My good-old ETHO-mailer could allow me to:
    select mails to fetch, delete, send accumulated mails ...
    next time I WANT to, 'being' on line.

    Modern e-mailers assume permanent on-line. That's crap!

    ETHO has a SSH package, which seems a monster, compared to other
    ETHO packages, and says:
    "..the remote host must support the SSH 2 protocol.
    The old SSH 1 protocol is not supported..."

    Does SSH satisfy gmails requirements?
    If so, how would I easily test the ETHO-SSH facility, before I build
    and couple it to a good-mailer.

    == TIA.

    PS. IIRC, I confirmed linux:ssh by connecting the PC to a rPi, via
    an etho cable; so could the linux:ssh confirm 'some' connectivety
    with gmail, before I start building the good-mailer?


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  • From Richard Kettlewell@110:110/2002 to All on Sat Jun 7 08:40:26 2014
    not.socialnetwork@gmail.com writes:
    This http-based gmail is intolerable!
    I realy didn't want to know about: ssh, TLS/SSL ....

    AFAIK gmail needs TLS/SSL.

    My good-old ETHO-mailer could allow me to:
    select mails to fetch, delete, send accumulated mails ...
    next time I WANT to, 'being' on line.

    Modern e-mailers assume permanent on-line. That's crap!

    ETHO has a SSH package, which seems a monster, compared to other
    ETHO packages, and says:
    "..the remote host must support the SSH 2 protocol.
    The old SSH 1 protocol is not supported..."

    Does SSH satisfy gmails requirements?

    No. SSH is not SSL.

    --
    http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/

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  • From Unknown@110:110/2002 to All on Sat Jun 7 13:14:03 2014
    On Sat, 07 Jun 2014 09:40:26 +0100, Richard Kettlewell wrote:


    Does SSH satisfy gmails requirements?

    No. SSH is not SSL.

    Thanks for saving me wasted time & effort - unlike gmail.
    ETHO mailer shows <fetch, delete,..etc> at the Top, no matter
    where you are in the Frame.

    With http:gmail, if you are in the middle of the multi-screen text,
    you need to go to the top or bottom, and lose your text-place to
    find the command, amongst a pile of garbage.

    It's not that google are stoopid. It's that they want to confuse you,
    to push adverts in-Yo-face.

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  • From Keith Keller@110:110/2002 to All on Sat Jun 7 18:01:36 2014
    ["Followup-To:" header set to comp.os.linux.networking.]
    On 2014-06-07, not.socialnetwork@gmail.com <not.socialnetwork@gmail.com> wrote:
    This http-based gmail is intolerable!

    Your trolling is intolerable, yet you keep doing it.

    You can configure Gmail to allow you IMAP access if you don't like
    their web interface.

    And stop morphing: this is the sixth address I have for you in my
    scorefile.

    --keith

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  • From no.top.post@gmail.com@110:110/2002 to All on Sun Jun 15 19:58:18 2014
    On 2014-06-07, not.socialnetwork@gmail.com <not.socialnetwork@gmail.com> wrote:
    This http-based gmail is intolerable!

    ]You can configure Gmail to allow you IMAP access if you don't like
    ]their web interface.

    IIRC that needs always on-line. You can't:
    = fetch the headers & go off-line;
    = mark which one's to d/l or delete when next going on line.

    ]And stop morphing: this is the sixth address I have for you in my
    ]scorefile.

    This forum is for adults to exchange technical info.
    If you want to do personality stalking, there are reportedly facilities elsewhere.


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  • From Michael Black@1:0/0 to All on Mon Jun 16 17:34:29 2014
    On Sun, 15 Jun 2014, no.top.post@gmail.com wrote:

    On 2014-06-07, not.socialnetwork@gmail.com <not.socialnetwork@gmail.com>
    wrote:
    This http-based gmail is intolerable!

    ]You can configure Gmail to allow you IMAP access if you don't like
    ]their web interface.

    IIRC that needs always on-line. You can't:
    = fetch the headers & go off-line;
    = mark which one's to d/l or delete when next going on line.

    ]And stop morphing: this is the sixth address I have for you in my ]scorefile.

    This forum is for adults to exchange technical info.
    If you want to do personality stalking, there are reportedly facilities elsewhere.


    NO, he doesn't want to stalk you, he wants to avoid you. But since you
    keep morphing, he keeps stepping in your messages.

    I don't care what someone wants to call themselves on the internet, but I really don't respect people who go around without a consistent "name".

    Michael


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  • From Frank Slootweg@110:110/2002 to All on Mon Jun 16 20:31:43 2014
    no.top.post@gmail.com wrote:
    On 2014-06-07, not.socialnetwork@gmail.com <not.socialnetwork@gmail.com>
    wrote:
    This http-based gmail is intolerable!

    ]You can configure Gmail to allow you IMAP access if you don't like
    ]their web interface.

    IIRC that needs always on-line. You can't:
    = fetch the headers & go off-line;
    = mark which one's to d/l or delete when next going on line.

    You seem to be confusing ("Yeah, *right*!"), the web-mailer 'Gmail'
    with the MSP (Mail SP) 'Gmail' (or, even worse, the 'app' Gmail). If
    you're using IMAP (or POP) you're using the MSP 'Gmail', not the
    web-mailer 'Gmail'.

    So whether you can do what you want depends on your MUA (Mail User
    Agent [1] aka 'mailer'), not on the MSP 'Gmail'.

    Any decent IMAP/POP3 mailer can do what you want. If you 'need' recommendations, I suggest you ask (in 'this' group (CMM) or in a Linux mail(er) group).

    ]And stop morphing: this is the sixth address I have for you in my ]scorefile.

    This forum is for adults to exchange technical info.
    If you want to do personality stalking, there are reportedly facilities elsewhere.

    EMAK is bad. Your "personality stalking" 'argument' is utterly misguided/misplaced, because it attempts to put blame on the reader
    instead of on you, the poster. *Your* EMAK behaviour is especially bad,
    because you keep bringing up the same 'problems' and are not interested
    in solutions, you only want to hear that your 'problems' are indeed
    problems, but they never are. Case in point: This very OP. So grow up or
    shut up.

    [1] Yes, that is largely simplified. Mind you we're talking to/at Chris
    Glur! :-(

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  • From Keith Keller@110:110/2002 to All on Mon Jun 16 21:06:49 2014
    ["Followup-To:" header set to comp.os.linux.networking.]
    On 2014-06-16, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
    no.top.post@gmail.com wrote:
    On 2014-06-07, not.socialnetwork@gmail.com <not.socialnetwork@gmail.com> wrote:
    This http-based gmail is intolerable!

    ]You can configure Gmail to allow you IMAP access if you don't like
    ]their web interface.

    Huh, this was me, wasn't it? Of course ''Chris Glur'' screwed up the
    quoting, as we should expect.

    ]And stop morphing: this is the sixth address I have for you in my
    ]scorefile.

    This forum is for adults to exchange technical info.

    Adults don't morph their From: headers.

    If you want to do personality stalking, there are reportedly facilities
    elsewhere.

    If you don't want people ''stalking'' you, stop morphing your From:
    headers, so that our scorefiles can be applied to your posts.

    EMAK is bad.

    EMAK? I did a quick web search but didn't find anything applicable
    (granted I didn't search that hard).

    --keith

    --
    kkeller-usenet@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us
    (try just my userid to email me) AOLSFAQ=http://www.therockgarden.ca/aolsfaq.txt
    see X- headers for PGP signature information


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  • From Richard Kettlewell@110:110/2002 to All on Mon Jun 16 21:09:29 2014
    Keith Keller <kkeller-usenet@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> writes:
    On 2014-06-16, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
    EMAK is bad.

    EMAK? I did a quick web search but didn't find anything applicable
    (granted I didn't search that hard).

    “Excessive Morphing to Avoid Killfiles”.

    --
    http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/

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  • From Keith Keller@110:110/2002 to All on Mon Jun 16 23:07:44 2014
    On 2014-06-16, Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> wrote:
    Keith Keller <kkeller-usenet@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> writes:
    On 2014-06-16, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
    EMAK is bad.

    EMAK? I did a quick web search but didn't find anything applicable
    (granted I didn't search that hard).

    ???Excessive Morphing to Avoid Killfiles???.

    GAAAH! /me smacks head, I should have figured that out!

    EMAK is not just bad, it's evil. Only trolls do EMAK.

    --keith

    --
    kkeller-usenet@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us
    (try just my userid to email me) AOLSFAQ=http://www.therockgarden.ca/aolsfaq.txt
    see X- headers for PGP signature information


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  • From Frank Slootweg@110:110/2002 to All on Tue Jun 17 20:48:52 2014
    Keith Keller <kkeller-usenet@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> wrote:
    ["Followup-To:" header set to comp.os.linux.networking.]
    [Ignored because I subscribe (only) to comp.mail.misc.]
    On 2014-06-16, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
    [...]
    EMAK is bad.

    EMAK? I did a quick web search but didn't find anything applicable
    (granted I didn't search that hard).

    Excessive Morphing to Avoid Killfiles

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