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    From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to David Smith on Sat May 9 10:32:00 2020

    Hi Dave!

    BTW, for infrared (IR) controlling appears the RPi 4 is missing LIRC -- not sure as fiddling with a project here and by the time I figured out what possibly to do ran out of time. I found https://www.instructables.com/id/Easy-Setup-IR-Remote-Control-Using-LIRC -for-the-Ra/
    Funny you should mention that. I went to a MagiQuest a couple of
    years ago in Pigeon Forge TN and my kids loved it. Been thinking
    about those wands ever since and wondering if I could rig up some
    kind of IR sensor on the Pi and make my own little game at home.
    I saw some information about it and I looked at a few different
    IR sensors but put it on my list of things to do and never got
    back to it.

    Some day we should get around to comparing our Round ToIt Lists! <g>

    I'm still working on my little IR project: ran into a bit of a snag
    because the brand of TV (and so remote control) wasn't listed on the
    LIRC site. Seiko was but I needed Seiki. Typo maybe? Nope. There is
    a way to create one's own 'decoding chart' but sounds like a lot of
    work; did finally one on-line and troubleshooted that; hope to test
    today.



    And we probably should move this thread as not really on-topic for Ham radio. I'll let it be your choice for where as I received and pretty
    sure have selected all conferences. Electronics? Could rename one that hasn't been used in ages and piddle off the other SysOps!
    Your probably right Electronics might be good!

    Done! ...Did??!

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  • From David Smith@454:1/110 to Barry Martin on Sun May 10 16:26:44 2020
    Some day we should get around to comparing our Round ToIt Lists! <g>

    Lol my list seems to expand all the time. I need to write it down but I don't even remember half the stuff! :) Let see.. Got a model railroad I started on
    a while back thats still sittign there. From there I started cleaning out a
    old milk barn where my "shop" is. Got about half way done with that and had
    to go work on some stuff in the house. Then all the little electronic
    projects all over the place that I start. I seem to just rotate around from one to the other! :)

    I'm still working on my little IR project: ran into a bit of a snag because the brand of TV (and so remote control) wasn't listed on the
    LIRC site. Seiko was but I needed Seiki. Typo maybe? Nope. There is
    a way to create one's own 'decoding chart' but sounds like a lot of
    work; did finally one on-line and troubleshooted that; hope to test
    today.
    I hope the one you found will work!


    Done! ...Did??!

    Hah you did! I didn't even notice at first! :)

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to David Smith on Mon May 11 06:59:00 2020

    Hi Dave!

    You found me! (Moved this thread from Ham Radio.)


    Some day we should get around to comparing our Round ToIt Lists! <g>
    Lol my list seems to expand all the time. I need to write it down
    but I don't even remember half the stuff! :) Let see.. Got a
    model railroad I started on a while back thats still sittign
    there. From there I started cleaning out a old milk barn where my
    "shop" is. Got about half way done with that and had to go work
    on some stuff in the house. Then all the little electronic
    projects all over the place that I start. I seem to just rotate
    around from one to the other! :)

    My What I'm Going to Do Today is a mental list (um, in my head, though a
    little crazy!) and depends somewhat on the weather: not going to be
    doing yard work in the rain. Do have scratch paper/note cards and pens
    in various palces in the house, not for writing down what to do but
    sometimes at 'odd' times like brushing my teeth or drifting off to sleep
    I'll think of a potential solution on a project. So have a little stash
    of paper in the bathroom cabinet and in the bedside table.



    I'm still working on my little IR project: ran into a bit of a snag because the brand of TV (and so remote control) wasn't listed on the
    LIRC site. Seiko was but I needed Seiki. Typo maybe? Nope. There is
    a way to create one's own 'decoding chart' but sounds like a lot of
    work; did finally one on-line and troubleshooted that; hope to test
    today.
    I hope the one you found will work!

    I finally found one, plugged it in, and -- nothing. Did a help post to
    the MythTV Forum (because where is going to be used and they have used
    remote controls instead of keyboards); got an impressive reply
    (detailed) which helped but I ran into a snag near the beginning; should
    get a response back this morning.


    Done! ...Did??!
    Hah you did! I didn't even notice at first! :)

    Sneaky that way!

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  • From David Smith@454:1/110 to Barry Martin on Wed May 13 08:32:25 2020
    My What I'm Going to Do Today is a mental list (um, in my head, though a little crazy!) and depends somewhat on the weather: not going to be
    doing yard work in the rain.
    Yep thats how I tend to get shifted from one project to another. Weather was too bad to work on one so I started another. Needed to do something before I could continue that, so I moved to another. Just keep going in an endless circle sometimes! :) My Vivance doesn't seem to be keepign up with me! :)


    Do have scratch paper/note cards and pens
    in various palces in the house, not for writing down what to do but sometimes at 'odd' times like brushing my teeth or drifting off to sleep I'll think of a potential solution on a project. So have a little stash of paper in the bathroom cabinet and in the bedside table.
    I've tried that. Sad thing is I can't read my own handwriting! Pharmacist
    told me my writing was worse than any doctors she's ever read! :) I do like spreadsheets so I try to keep a spreadsheet of stuff to do in google docs. I just tend to get sidetracked with trying to tweak the sheet formulas and such then! :)


    I finally found one, plugged it in, and -- nothing. Did a help post to the MythTV Forum (because where is going to be used and they have used remote controls instead of keyboards); got an impressive reply
    (detailed) which helped but I ran into a snag near the beginning; should get a response back this morning.

    Thats awesome I hope ou are able to get that to work! I was looking at the MagiQuest wands a bit. It looks like they operate at 36 or 38 KHz. Found some stuff on openschemes.com that looks promising. Seem to be other folks who
    have tinkered around with it in the past (I'm always a day late to the
    party). I just need to find a good IR receiver that works at those
    frequencies and with the Pi.

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to David Smith on Thu May 14 12:34:00 2020

    Hi Dave!

    My What I'm Going to Do Today is a mental list (um, in my head, though a little crazy!) and depends somewhat on the weather: not going to be
    doing yard work in the rain.
    Yep thats how I tend to get shifted from one project to another.
    Weather was too bad to work on one so I started another. Needed
    to do something before I could continue that, so I moved to
    another. Just keep going in an endless circle sometimes! :) My
    Vivance doesn't seem to be keepign up with me! :)

    Your But Firsts seem to be more aggressive in distracting you than mine!


    Do have scratch paper/note cards and pens
    in various palces in the house, not for writing down what to do but sometimes at 'odd' times like brushing my teeth or drifting off to sleep I'll think of a potential solution on a project. So have a little stash of paper in the bathroom cabinet and in the bedside table.
    I've tried that. Sad thing is I can't read my own handwriting!
    Pharmacist told me my writing was worse than any doctors she's
    ever read! :) I do like spreadsheets so I try to keep a
    spreadsheet of stuff to do in google docs. I just tend to get
    sidetracked with trying to tweak the sheet formulas and such
    then! :)

    My writing got ruined from high-speed note-taking in college; in
    hindsight Gregg Shorthand would have been helpful but I don't know of
    any tract in the sciences where shorthand is an option. That seems to
    be an exclusive of the 'secretarial' tract. Actually "Intro to Home Ec"
    would be good for college students: how to sew a button, how to clean
    the dorm room and do laundry (why is everything pink?!)....



    I finally found one, plugged it in, and -- nothing. Did a help post to the MythTV Forum (because where is going to be used and they have used remote controls instead of keyboards); got an impressive reply
    (detailed) which helped but I ran into a snag near the beginning; should get a response back this morning.
    Thats awesome I hope ou are able to get that to work! I was
    looking at the MagiQuest wands a bit. It looks like they operate
    at 36 or 38 KHz. Found some stuff on openschemes.com that looks
    promising. Seem to be other folks who have tinkered around with
    it in the past (I'm always a day late to the party). I just need
    to find a good IR receiver that works at those frequencies and
    with the Pi.

    Most do. Check www.lirc.org -- scroll down for the link to the
    database ("Supported Remote Controls" header).

    I used a receiver from a Hauppauge tuner -- can't find the specific
    right now but is one of the two or three commonly used IR detectors in
    a pretty plastic cover and connecting cable. The problem I had was the extraction/build/whatever didn't automatically create several files so
    while I had the first step of detection and decoding and the last step
    of doing something with it Step 2 of linking the two was missing. (I
    used to watch SouthPark and the episode about "Phase 1 - make
    underpants, Phase 3 - Profit! -- What's 'Phase 2?" 'We dunno'" comes to
    mind!)

    BTW, it appears connecting the IR detector to an RPi 3 and to an RPi4
    are different. The GPIO pins are the same, maybe the firmware changed??
    I can give links if you want them.

    ...Your comment I just need to find a good IR receiver to work with
    MagiQuest wand and the RPi', I'm going to say probably not too much of
    a problem; maybe check out this 1 minute video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZec247UpLM -- I didn't view but the
    text onthe page indicates it is working with an Arduino.


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  • From David Smith@454:1/110 to Barry Martin on Mon May 18 09:26:49 2020
    Your But Firsts seem to be more aggressive in distracting you than mine!
    Yep especially lately I seem to get so easlily distracted. Working at home right now with all this COVID-19 stuff going on and its taking all I can do
    to stay focused on actual work! :)

    My writing got ruined from high-speed note-taking in college; in hindsight Gregg Shorthand would have been helpful but I don't know of
    any tract in the sciences where shorthand is an option. That seems to

    be an exclusive of the 'secretarial' tract.
    Not that my handwriting was ever any good, but it was at least legible back when I was in school. I wish we would have had laptops and stuff back then it sure would have made things easier! I tried to use one of those micr-casette recorders to record notes but then when I tried to sit down in my dorm and listen to them I would always seem to fall asleep! Fortunately, i managed to make it through college "Thanky Lawdy"! :)



    Actually "Intro to Home Ec"
    would be good for college students: how to sew a button, how to clean
    the dorm room and do laundry (why is everything pink?!)....
    Don't get me started on Home Ec! I didn't care much for high school, and
    don't remember much of anything I learned there, but two of the few things I
    do remember and still use today; Aggriculture/Shop and the week that all the guys had to take Home Ec! They don't even teach these classes in a lot of schools now. Its such a shame because these are critical life skills that everyone needs to learn to be prepared for when they grow up and leave home!


    Most do. Check www.lirc.org -- scroll down for the link to the
    database ("Supported Remote Controls" header).
    I used a receiver from a Hauppauge tuner -- can't find the specific
    right now but is one of the two or three commonly used IR detectors in
    a pretty plastic cover and connecting cable. The problem I had was the extraction/build/whatever didn't automatically create several files so while I had the first step of detection and decoding and the last step
    of doing something with it Step 2 of linking the two was missing. (I
    used to watch SouthPark and the episode about "Phase 1 - make
    underpants, Phase 3 - Profit! -- What's 'Phase 2?" 'We dunno'" comes to mind!)

    BTW, it appears connecting the IR detector to an RPi 3 and to an RPi4
    are different. The GPIO pins are the same, maybe the firmware changed??
    I can give links if you want them.

    ...Your comment I just need to find a good IR receiver to work with MagiQuest wand and the RPi', I'm going to say probably not too much of
    a problem; maybe check out this 1 minute video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZec247UpLM -- I didn't view but the text onthe page indicates it is working with an Arduino.


    Hey thats a good video! I looked at a few videos and websites a while back
    but nothing with such a good "hands on" demonstration. Definately gonna save this one!
    My son was commenting on Magiquest last night. He really loved it! I'd sure like to try to get a little "Mini-Adventure" set up at home for him! :)

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to David Smith on Tue May 19 11:10:00 2020

    Hi Dave!

    Your But Firsts seem to be more aggressive in distracting you than mine!
    Yep especially lately I seem to get so easlily distracted.
    Working at home right now with all this COVID-19 stuff going on
    and its taking all I can do to stay focused on actual work! :)

    That's nothing! You should see how easily distracted us retired folks
    can be!!


    My writing got ruined from high-speed note-taking in college; in
    hindsight Gregg Shorthand would have been helpful but I don't know of
    any tract in the sciences where shorthand is an option. That seems to
    be an exclusive of the 'secretarial' tract.
    Not that my handwriting was ever any good, but it was at least
    legible back when I was in school. I wish we would have had
    laptops and stuff back then it sure would have made things

    Hmmm: extension cords to trip over, whirring of cooling fans, bopping of
    the person sitting in front of you against the neck of your CRT.....<g>

    easier! I tried to use one of those micr-casette recorders to
    record notes but then when I tried to sit down in my dorm and
    listen to them I would always seem to fall asleep! Fortunately, i
    managed to make it through college "Thanky Lawdy"! :)

    I vaguely recall a few people in class taping the lectures -- no, they
    used cassettes, maybe micro-cassettes, not reel-to-reel!! They either
    tried to sit in the front row or two in front of the podium or under a
    speaker in the ceiling.



    Actually "Intro to Home Ec"
    would be good for college students: how to sew a button, how to clean
    the dorm room and do laundry (why is everything pink?!)....
    Don't get me started on Home Ec! I didn't care much for high
    school, and don't remember much of anything I learned there, but
    two of the few things I do remember and still use today;
    Aggriculture/Shop and the week that all the guys had to take Home
    Ec! They don't even teach these classes in a lot of schools now.
    Its such a shame because these are critical life skills that
    everyone needs to learn to be prepared for when they grow up and
    leave home!

    Yes. I don't know if my parents did it on purpose or just evolved but I
    knew how to clean (well, that one more was what would be termed
    'chore'), simple cooking -- that one evolved from my Mother would go
    skiing and so us men (Dad and I) made something to eat. I could do
    simple sewing: sew a button back on, patch a rip, etc.


    Most do. Check www.lirc.org -- scroll down for the link to the
    database ("Supported Remote Controls" header).
    I used a receiver from a Hauppauge tuner -- can't find the specific
    right now but is one of the two or three commonly used IR detectors in
    a pretty plastic cover and connecting cable. The problem I had was the extraction/build/whatever didn't automatically create several files so while I had the first step of detection and decoding and the last step
    of doing something with it Step 2 of linking the two was missing. (I
    used to watch SouthPark and the episode about "Phase 1 - make
    underpants, Phase 3 - Profit! -- What's 'Phase 2?" 'We dunno'" comes to mind!)

    BTW, it appears connecting the IR detector to an RPi 3 and to an RPi4
    are different. The GPIO pins are the same, maybe the firmware changed??
    I can give links if you want them.

    ...Your comment I just need to find a good IR receiver to work with MagiQuest wand and the RPi', I'm going to say probably not too much of
    a problem; maybe check out this 1 minute video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZec247UpLM -- I didn't view but the
    text onthe page indicates it is working with an Arduino.

    Hey thats a good video! I looked at a few videos and websites a
    while back but nothing with such a good "hands on" demonstration.
    Definately gonna save this one!

    While I think of it "be careful" with LIRC and the Raspberry 4 or maybe
    Buster and so all the Raspberry Pi's. (My current project sort of
    requires the RPi4 so "don't care" about 3, 2, etc.) Anyway, appears
    something is broken between LIRC and Buster:

    https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=269703

    https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=235256

    "Oddly" on my Pi LIRC, or what I think is LIRC, works once I get into
    MythTV: the remote functions work. Getting there is the problem: trying
    to push a button on the remote at Desktop to load MythFrontEnd isn't
    working. A test to simply write to a file (echo txt > test.txt) also
    didn't work but then I'm not sure I was doing it right. Have a question
    in to the Forum that has been helping.



    My son was commenting on Magiquest last night. He really loved
    it! I'd sure like to try to get a little "Mini-Adventure" set up
    at home for him! :)

    Good! I'll admit not be being into gaming other than Solitaire and
    lately Mahjongg but if everyone was the same we'd be borrrrring!! As
    for setting up the mini-adventure, go for it!! At least we might be
    able to figure out the infrared part!


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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to David Smith on Tue May 19 16:13:00 2020

    Hi Dave!

    Update information...


    Most do. Check www.lirc.org -- scroll down for the link to the
    <snip>
    BTW, it appears connecting the IR detector to an RPi 3 and to an RPi4
    are different. The GPIO pins are the same, maybe the firmware changed??
    I can give links if you want them.
    <snip>
    <my quote from this morning>
    BJM: While I think of it "be careful" with LIRC and the Raspberry 4 or maybe BJM: Buster and so all the Raspberry Pi's. (My current project sort of
    BJM: requires the RPi4 so "don't care" about 3, 2, etc.) Anyway, appears
    BJM: something is broken between LIRC and Buster:

    OK, the good news is for me LIRC and IREXEC aren't broken but the
    instructions I was following needed to be updated. The 'start" wasn't correct: it needed to talk to IREXEC but was trying to talk to with the remote's key assignment stuff.

    The correction is: /etc/lirc/irexec.lircrc

    begin
    prog = irexec
    button = KEY_C
    config = echo pswd | su -l pi -c /home/pi/Load_MythFE.sh
    end


    "KEY_C" is the yellow button on my remote. Can be any key as long as
    not assigned in elsewhere.

    pswd = password for that Raspberry Pi

    pi = username for that Raspberry Pi

    The sh script is what needs to be loaded to get what you want the button
    to start up, in my case to load the Myth Front End. (I'm just soooo
    clever with naming things!!)


    HTH!
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