• Re: Shingrix was:

    From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Thu Jul 9 19:41:32 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 29-Jun-2020 11:10 <=-

    BTW, I did get my second Shingrix shot last week,
    Very good... now that's off the to-do list... ;) I still need to get
    mine started....
    Be prepared for a stiff bill: apparently not covered by most
    insurances.
    Mine covers it, but at a high tier where I pay a substantial chunk of
    it.... that was part of what gave me pause back when I almost had it
    done earlier... I still do intend to get it eventually, though...
    Yes, no idea why the price is so much; I essentially paid
    three-quarters of the 'normal and customary' price. Hopefully a tax deduction, did/will get points on my credit card.

    If you itemize deductions, it will count towards your medical
    deduction... As to why the insurance picks up so little of it... it
    might be partly that it is a new vaccine, and partly that it isn't for a
    public health issue, just to protect the person getting it... When
    there's a Covid-19 vaccine, I'd expect that to be covered mostly or in
    full, since like the flu, it protects the community to have as many
    vaccinated as possible....

    And should I have decided against getting the shot because of the
    price I would definitely regretted being so cheap while itching and otherwise suffering with the rash.

    Indeed. Some medical costs are worth more than you paid, whether in
    relief or protection... :)

    Hmmm: there was 'stuff' at Hy-Vee where those clearance carts had been
    but obviously didn't make much impression. The Starbucks seating is
    on the other side of where the carts had lined up and with the seating
    area partially reopened can't be too blocked.
    And now, Wegmans has been able to put some of the tables and chairs
    back out so that people can eat there again... the self-serve buffets
    aren't back yet... that may be a while, sadly...
    The Starbucks are Hy-Vee has some widely-spaced tables and chairs; a
    few people enjoying their coffees there. Now I'll have to investigate
    the restaurant portion which was on the other side at the front of the
    store. With the remodel moved some food shops and stations around,
    plus there was some large area walled off where most of the restaurant
    seating was, so probably that section's turn to be remodeled.
    That would be my guess... :)
    I did check a bit during last Thursday's grocery shopping: that corner
    of the building where the restaurant seating was is temporarily walled
    off and construction going on. I didn't noticed any temporary
    seating, though that could be partially because of COVID-19
    restrictions -- if so at least the timing sort of worked out.

    They may just be focusing on getting the remodel done... and with the
    shutdowns only now gradually being lifted didn't see any reason to open
    things up at all yet for the restaurant... even without the covid, they
    might have closed it all down for this stage of their remodel, too....

    True. Last week there was a bit more than the prior week: did
    visually paw through a cart or two of interest. I'm not overly
    concerned about contacting items, just other people could be freaking
    out, so out of a bit of concerned for them plus me just look unless
    something is truly of interest.
    I'd likely do the same... :)
    I generally don't paw through clearance anyway unless I really-really
    want to find something, usually additional to what I have already
    found rather than a hoping to get a random find. Normally might
    'lightly rake' the top layer, now sort of a don't touch unless
    necessary.

    At this point, might as well let the eyes do the "touching"...

    a news item this morning where Illinois bars are being allowed to open
    at 25% capacity. One bar owner interviewed said he wasn't sure if he'd
    re-open or not as needed 50% capacity to make a profit. He also
    commented on how the bars across the River in Iowa were allowed to be
    open at 50% and he could see them from his business (meaning looking
    across the River -- can probably see the customers with a good pair of
    binoculars).
    I don't think bars are allowed to open here, yet... only restaurants
    with bar service... Bars tend to be more congregating in crowds type
    of places....
    On this morning's news one of the Downtown Davenport bars is
    temporarily closing voluntarily: the owner or manager was on-camera and stated he couldn't stay open in good conscience knowing the crowd
    couldn't be controlled fully and he didn't want to be the epicenter of
    an outbreak / spike. The bar is established: <looked up) 1934. Originally a 'watering hole' for the reports/news staff of one of the local newspapers and lawyers, plus Downtown employees on that side.

    Good for him. When things get settled enough for him to reopen in good conscience, hopefully he'll get good business... :)

    So we had our hygenist visits this past Thursday... things just a bit
    weird, as one might expect.... my hygenist in full protective gear
    (head scarf, goggles, mask, face shield, gown over clothes, gloves),
    his not quite so much (I think he said just face shield besides the
    usual mask and gloves), spit sink not in operation, just using a
    plastic cup of water plus another to spit into... my hygenist didn't
    do the polishing, but his did... But now our teeth are cleaned and
    scraped, and checked for cavities... ;)
    LIS (if the message got through!) my dental check is coming up
    mid-July. In the past both the hygenist and dentist wore masks when
    doing their close-up work, so on and off. Also goggles or some sort of protection of the eyes -- amazing the details one overlooks! Usually they're doing their work from the back (from behind my head and over)
    or from the side and I have my eyes closed.

    I do tend also to close my eyes when they are working... :)

    No spit sink -- do remember using one as a child. Here squirt water
    in, swish, they suction out.

    This time, she wasn't even using the suction... used a gauze to wipe
    stuff off my teeth as she scaled...

    Do have to make one with the optometrist: received another e-mail
    reminder.
    I've got an appointment with the Optical Shop to get my new glasses
    ordered finally... it'll be Wednesday the 1st... Life somewhat goes
    back to normal.... slowly.... ;)
    We're getting there!

    And my new glasses are now ordered, and should be ready any time now...
    I'll need to make another appointment to pick them up when they call to
    say they're ready... They have you call from the parking lot when you
    arrive, the person that answers asks a bunch of covid questions, and
    then they let you in for your appointment...

    Yes, I'm thinking there will be a slight push for tele-appointments
    from both the patient and doctor sides because it can be more
    convenient. Well, for some checks: anything thermal could be a little
    difficult (scan my own forehead, and if concerned about validity the
    doctor or nurse could have the patient scan on-camera.
    For most anything I'd want to see a doctor for, in-person tends to be
    more useful... :)
    For me too. I can see advantanges for some instances of tele-
    consulting. ...Wonder if the patient has to wait on video-hold the 15 minutes like in the office?!

    Good question.... When Richard had a phone visit, we just had to stay
    by the phone until she called...

    True on the helping and leaving. ...And so the children of your older
    brothers and sisters are about the age of the younger ones. Are we up
    to where one is their own uncle or aunt yet?! <g>
    No, but with 35 kids, likely there would be some uncles/aunts that
    were younger than their nieces/nephews....
    Yup! And not an uncommon family event now.
    Of course, now it's more likely just a widely spaced-out family... ;)
    And not uncommon to have later-in-life children. (I know, essentially
    a rephrasing of the agreement.)

    True.

    One does get creative... <G> Basements and attics get turned into
    bedrooms, sometimes more than one per... :) There are some larger
    homes, though... Friends of mine here in Rochester at one time owned
    a home that had three floors plus attic and basement... the second
    and third floors each had four bedrooms and two baths... they only
    used four of those as actual bedrooms, the others became office space
    or hobby space.... they only had three kids... :)
    We have the summer bedrooms and we have the winter bedrooms... <g>
    That many rooms (and bathrooms!) for five people seems much too large,
    but as you said a room for a home office, hobbies....
    It was a nice space for entertaining... :) And one could easily house
    extra overnight guests... :)
    Yes: no kids having to give up their bedroom to sleep with their
    annoying little brother or sister to make room for company sleeping
    in their beds.
    Exactly... :)
    And if the parents had company staying overnight frequently it would
    make sense to purchase a house able to accomodate conveniently, so the extra bedroom(s), for the guests' comfort their own bathroom.

    They did have family visit from out of town often enough for that to be helpful... They've since downsized twice... all the kids are off on
    their own now... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Fri Jul 10 09:21:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    BTW, I did get my second Shingrix shot last week,
    Very good... now that's off the to-do list... ;) I still need to get
    mine started....
    Be prepared for a stiff bill: apparently not covered by most
    insurances.
    Mine covers it, but at a high tier where I pay a substantial chunk of
    it.... that was part of what gave me pause back when I almost had it
    done earlier... I still do intend to get it eventually, though...
    Yes, no idea why the price is so much; I essentially paid
    three-quarters of the 'normal and customary' price. Hopefully a tax deduction, did/will get points on my credit card.
    If you itemize deductions, it will count towards your medical
    deduction... As to why the insurance picks up so little of it...
    it might be partly that it is a new vaccine, and partly that it
    isn't for a public health issue, just to protect the person
    getting it... When there's a Covid-19 vaccine, I'd expect that to
    be covered mostly or in full, since like the flu, it protects the community to have as many vaccinated as possible....

    Though using that arguement the cholesterol-lowering medication only does
    me good and the insurance picks up 100%. Maybe they feel I'm worthy to society! <bseg>


    And should I have decided against getting the shot because of the
    price I would definitely regretted being so cheap while itching and otherwise suffering with the rash.
    Indeed. Some medical costs are worth more than you paid, whether
    in relief or protection... :)

    Yup! I've seen some pictures of nasty cases and I don't want that!!


    Hmmm: there was 'stuff' at Hy-Vee where those clearance carts had been
    but obviously didn't make much impression. The Starbucks seating is
    on the other side of where the carts had lined up and with the seating
    area partially reopened can't be too blocked.
    And now, Wegmans has been able to put some of the tables and chairs
    back out so that people can eat there again... the self-serve buffets
    aren't back yet... that may be a while, sadly...
    The Starbucks are Hy-Vee has some widely-spaced tables and chairs; a
    few people enjoying their coffees there. Now I'll have to investigate
    the restaurant portion which was on the other side at the front of the
    store. With the remodel moved some food shops and stations around,
    plus there was some large area walled off where most of the restaurant
    seating was, so probably that section's turn to be remodeled.
    That would be my guess... :)
    I did check a bit during last Thursday's grocery shopping: that corner
    of the building where the restaurant seating was is temporarily walled
    off and construction going on. I didn't noticed any temporary
    seating, though that could be partially because of COVID-19
    restrictions -- if so at least the timing sort of worked out.
    They may just be focusing on getting the remodel done... and with
    the shutdowns only now gradually being lifted didn't see any
    reason to open things up at all yet for the restaurant... even
    without the covid, they might have closed it all down for this
    stage of their remodel, too....

    Right. They may have used the COVID-19 restructions as a reason to
    close down the restaurant portion and instead of remodelling that
    because it was next on the list to focus on the next areas on the list.
    If the restaurant has to be closed because of COVID-19 it's not going ot
    be making any money, so get a section done that will make money.



    a news item this morning where Illinois bars are being allowed to open
    at 25% capacity. One bar owner interviewed said he wasn't sure if he'd
    re-open or not as needed 50% capacity to make a profit. He also
    commented on how the bars across the River in Iowa were allowed to be
    open at 50% and he could see them from his business (meaning looking
    across the River -- can probably see the customers with a good pair of
    binoculars).
    I don't think bars are allowed to open here, yet... only restaurants
    with bar service... Bars tend to be more congregating in crowds type
    of places....
    On this morning's news one of the Downtown Davenport bars is
    temporarily closing voluntarily: the owner or manager was on-camera and stated he couldn't stay open in good conscience knowing the crowd
    couldn't be controlled fully and he didn't want to be the epicenter of
    an outbreak / spike. The bar is established: <looked up) 1934.
    Originally a 'watering hole' for the reports/news staff of one of the local newspapers and lawyers, plus Downtown employees on that side.
    Good for him. When things get settled enough for him to reopen
    in good conscience, hopefully he'll get good business... :)

    I'm quite sure he will.


    <Dental - cleaning, etc.>
    No spit sink -- do remember using one as a child. Here squirt water
    in, swish, they suction out.
    This time, she wasn't even using the suction... used a gauze to
    wipe stuff off my teeth as she scaled...

    That would make sense to avoid splashing. I'll find out Monday morning
    what my dental hygenist's/office's processes are. Will have to remember
    to bring along their phone number: not something I have listed in
    Contacts. OTOH do have with me: have a list of my doctors and telephone numbers in my wallet in with my insurance cards.


    Do have to make one with the optometrist: received another e-mail
    reminder.
    I've got an appointment with the Optical Shop to get my new glasses
    ordered finally... it'll be Wednesday the 1st... Life somewhat goes
    back to normal.... slowly.... ;)
    We're getting there!
    And my new glasses are now ordered, and should be ready any time
    now... I'll need to make another appointment to pick them up when
    they call to say they're ready... They have you call from the
    parking lot when you arrive, the person that answers asks a bunch
    of covid questions, and then they let you in for your
    appointment...

    Yup - getting used to that 'parking lot waiting room' process. Us
    patients are going to have to get used to asking or otherwise finding
    out when their parking has shade!


    Yes, I'm thinking there will be a slight push for tele-appointments
    from both the patient and doctor sides because it can be more
    convenient. Well, for some checks: anything thermal could be a little
    difficult (scan my own forehead, and if concerned about validity the
    doctor or nurse could have the patient scan on-camera.
    For most anything I'd want to see a doctor for, in-person tends to be
    more useful... :)
    For me too. I can see advantanges for some instances of tele-
    consulting. ...Wonder if the patient has to wait on video-hold the 15 minutes like in the office?!
    Good question.... When Richard had a phone visit, we just had to
    stay by the phone until she called...

    Which one would tend to do if expecting a call anyway.



    One does get creative... <G> Basements and attics get turned into
    bedrooms, sometimes more than one per... :) There are some larger
    homes, though... Friends of mine here in Rochester at one time owned
    a home that had three floors plus attic and basement... the second
    and third floors each had four bedrooms and two baths... they only
    used four of those as actual bedrooms, the others became office space
    or hobby space.... they only had three kids... :)
    We have the summer bedrooms and we have the winter bedrooms... <g>
    That many rooms (and bathrooms!) for five people seems much too large,
    but as you said a room for a home office, hobbies....
    It was a nice space for entertaining... :) And one could easily house
    extra overnight guests... :)
    Yes: no kids having to give up their bedroom to sleep with their
    annoying little brother or sister to make room for company sleeping
    in their beds.
    Exactly... :)
    And if the parents had company staying overnight frequently it would
    make sense to purchase a house able to accomodate conveniently, so the extra bedroom(s), for the guests' comfort their own bathroom.
    They did have family visit from out of town often enough for that
    to be helpful... They've since downsized twice... all the kids
    are off on their own now... :)

    Hopefuuly the downsized place wasn't too downsized: kids and their
    families will visit.


    ... A lawyer got his client a suspended sentence...the client was
    hung.

    Client would have preferred that for the jury!



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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Wed Aug 5 19:46:00 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 10-Jul-2020 09:21 <=-

    Mine covers it, but at a high tier where I pay a substantial chunk of
    it.... that was part of what gave me pause back when I almost had it
    done earlier... I still do intend to get it eventually, though...
    Yes, no idea why the price is so much; I essentially paid
    three-quarters of the 'normal and customary' price. Hopefully a tax
    deduction, did/will get points on my credit card.
    If you itemize deductions, it will count towards your medical
    deduction... As to why the insurance picks up so little of it... it
    might be partly that it is a new vaccine, and partly that it isn't for
    a public health issue, just to protect the person getting it... When
    there's a Covid-19 vaccine, I'd expect that to be covered mostly or in
    full, since like the flu, it protects the community to have as many
    vaccinated as possible....
    Though using that arguement the cholesterol-lowering medication only
    does me good and the insurance picks up 100%. Maybe they feel I'm
    worthy to society! <bseg>

    Regular prescriptions are a different story from vaccinations... A lot
    of the generics end up with a $0 copay... :) But only a few vaccines
    are covered completely....

    And should I have decided against getting the shot because of the
    price I would definitely regretted being so cheap while itching and
    otherwise suffering with the rash.
    Indeed. Some medical costs are worth more than you paid, whether
    in relief or protection... :)
    Yup! I've seen some pictures of nasty cases and I don't want that!!

    And I've had friends that had some of those nasty cases....

    I did check a bit during last Thursday's grocery shopping: that corner
    of the building where the restaurant seating was is temporarily walled
    off and construction going on. I didn't noticed any temporary
    seating, though that could be partially because of COVID-19
    restrictions -- if so at least the timing sort of worked out.
    They may just be focusing on getting the remodel done... and with the
    shutdowns only now gradually being lifted didn't see any reason to
    open things up at all yet for the restaurant... even without the
    covid, they might have closed it all down for this stage of their
    remodel, too....
    Right. They may have used the COVID-19 restructions as a reason to
    close down the restaurant portion and instead of remodelling that
    because it was next on the list to focus on the next areas on the
    list. If the restaurant has to be closed because of COVID-19 it's not going to be making any money, so get a section done that will make
    money.

    Makes sense to me.... :)

    Do have to make one with the optometrist: received another e-mail
    reminder.
    I've got an appointment with the Optical Shop to get my new glasses
    ordered finally... it'll be Wednesday the 1st... Life somewhat goes
    back to normal.... slowly.... ;)
    We're getting there!
    And my new glasses are now ordered, and should be ready any time now..
    I'll need to make another appointment to pick them up when they call
    to say they're ready... They have you call from the parking lot when
    you arrive, the person that answers asks a bunch of covid questions,
    and then they let you in for your appointment...
    Yup - getting used to that 'parking lot waiting room' process. Us patients are going to have to get used to asking or otherwise finding
    out when their parking has shade!

    Or just sucking it up when there isn't any shade..... ;)

    Yes, I'm thinking there will be a slight push for tele-appointments
    from both the patient and doctor sides because it can be more
    convenient. Well, for some checks: anything thermal could be a little
    difficult (scan my own forehead, and if concerned about validity the
    doctor or nurse could have the patient scan on-camera.
    For most anything I'd want to see a doctor for, in-person tends to be
    more useful... :)
    For me too. I can see advantanges for some instances of tele-
    consulting. ...Wonder if the patient has to wait on video-hold the 15
    minutes like in the office?!
    Good question.... When Richard had a phone visit, we just had to
    stay by the phone until she called...
    Which one would tend to do if expecting a call anyway.

    Exactly... Last week, I had two doctor visits by phone... the first one
    called in the 15 minutes beforehand we were supposed to be ready during,
    the second one called about half an hour early... fortunately I was home
    and already on alert to watch for him... :)

    And if the parents had company staying overnight frequently it would
    make sense to purchase a house able to accomodate conveniently, so the
    extra bedroom(s), for the guests' comfort their own bathroom.
    They did have family visit from out of town often enough for that to
    be helpful... They've since downsized twice... all the kids are off
    on their own now... :)
    Hopefuuly the downsized place wasn't too downsized: kids and their families will visit.

    Two of the three kids have their own homes here locally... The other
    doesn't have any kids of her own yet.... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Thu Aug 6 08:38:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    Mine covers it, but at a high tier where I pay a substantial chunk of
    it.... that was part of what gave me pause back when I almost had it
    done earlier... I still do intend to get it eventually, though...
    Yes, no idea why the price is so much; I essentially paid
    three-quarters of the 'normal and customary' price. Hopefully a tax
    deduction, did/will get points on my credit card.
    If you itemize deductions, it will count towards your medical
    deduction... As to why the insurance picks up so little of it... it
    might be partly that it is a new vaccine, and partly that it isn't for
    a public health issue, just to protect the person getting it... When
    there's a Covid-19 vaccine, I'd expect that to be covered mostly or in
    full, since like the flu, it protects the community to have as many
    vaccinated as possible....
    Though using that arguement the cholesterol-lowering medication only
    does me good and the insurance picks up 100%. Maybe they feel I'm
    worthy to society! <bseg>
    Regular prescriptions are a different story from vaccinations...
    A lot of the generics end up with a $0 copay... :) But only a
    few vaccines are covered completely....

    True. Regulations, the Fine Print, and the etc.'s all make a
    difference. One medication I do get "free" (need to pay for the
    insurance!), another $3....


    And should I have decided against getting the shot because of the
    price I would definitely regretted being so cheap while itching and
    otherwise suffering with the rash.
    Indeed. Some medical costs are worth more than you paid, whether
    in relief or protection... :)
    Yup! I've seen some pictures of nasty cases and I don't want that!!
    And I've had friends that had some of those nasty cases....

    Even worse than the pictures!



    Do have to make one with the optometrist: received another e-mail
    reminder.
    I've got an appointment with the Optical Shop to get my new glasses
    ordered finally... it'll be Wednesday the 1st... Life somewhat goes
    back to normal.... slowly.... ;)
    We're getting there!
    And my new glasses are now ordered, and should be ready any time now..
    I'll need to make another appointment to pick them up when they call
    to say they're ready... They have you call from the parking lot when
    you arrive, the person that answers asks a bunch of covid questions,
    and then they let you in for your appointment...
    Yup - getting used to that 'parking lot waiting room' process. Us patients are going to have to get used to asking or otherwise finding
    out when their parking has shade!
    Or just sucking it up when there isn't any shade..... ;)

    Or hoping for an earlier-morning appointment during that cold spell we
    just had!


    Yes, I'm thinking there will be a slight push for tele-appointments
    from both the patient and doctor sides because it can be more
    convenient. Well, for some checks: anything thermal could be a little
    difficult (scan my own forehead, and if concerned about validity the
    doctor or nurse could have the patient scan on-camera.
    For most anything I'd want to see a doctor for, in-person tends to be
    more useful... :)
    For me too. I can see advantanges for some instances of tele-
    consulting. ...Wonder if the patient has to wait on video-hold the 15
    minutes like in the office?!
    Good question.... When Richard had a phone visit, we just had to
    stay by the phone until she called...
    Which one would tend to do if expecting a call anyway.
    Exactly... Last week, I had two doctor visits by phone... the
    first one called in the 15 minutes beforehand we were supposed to
    be ready during, the second one called about half an hour
    early... fortunately I was home and already on alert to watch for
    him... :)

    Early is good!


    And if the parents had company staying overnight frequently it would
    make sense to purchase a house able to accomodate conveniently, so the
    extra bedroom(s), for the guests' comfort their own bathroom.
    They did have family visit from out of town often enough for that to
    be helpful... They've since downsized twice... all the kids are off
    on their own now... :)
    Hopefuuly the downsized place wasn't too downsized: kids and their families will visit.
    Two of the three kids have their own homes here locally... The
    other doesn't have any kids of her own yet.... :)

    They should have bought a small apartment building! Swimming pool,
    laundry room, share heating and cooling costs...



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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to Nancy Backus on Sat Aug 8 17:59:00 2020
    Nancy,

    ... I'm objective; I object to everything.

    Too many in the world like that...but, I hope you won't object
    to me taking this tagline...because I have one of my own. <G>

    Daryl

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