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    From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Thu Jun 25 00:24:04 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 17-Jun-2020 08:11 <=-

    We hadn't gone as far as specific types of trees but did come to the
    conclusion it wasn't going to work here: mostly insufficient room and
    that was also going to cause a problem with at least one of the trees
    'growing funny' ==> shade cast by one would cause the other to grow
    'funny',
    Then I suppose that you'd have to choose between planting for the
    future generations, or planting for shade soon...
    I'll admit to being a little self-centered and would be planting more
    for me, though some consideration for the future: it would be a sturdy
    type of tree, so more hardwood than soft, and one that stands up to
    storms and winds.
    And the sooner you do plant it, the sooner there will be any benefit
    from it, whether short-term or long-term.... ;)
    Oddly enough true! <g>

    Sometimes one just has to state the obvious... ;)

    The shade consideration is an interesting one: the tree while quite
    large provided very little shading of the house. Probably was mostly
    positioning while that could be corrected at planting of the new tree
    then creates another problem as would be growing into the utility
    lines. Here the telephone, cable, fiber optic and electric lines are
    run along telephone poles in the back yard where an alley would have
    been but they never built.
    And then they cross the back yard from the runs to connect into your
    house.... No alley even planned for here, but still the lines run
    along the back lot lines, with the secondary lines coming in
    diagonally from the poles to the backs of the houses...
    Right. Actually kind of nice to have the street free of poles
    sticking out of the ground; in the back yard they somewhat blend in
    with the trees.

    True. :)

    Ended up nothing replaced, even though I semi-sneakily allowed some
    of the seedlings to remain when I was weeding. They got plucked.
    (There's an area of shrubs, ground cover, some flowers, etc., in
    the section as around the tree the grass didn't grow all that well.)
    I guess you would have had to be more purposeful about leaving the
    seedlings there... and put guards around them to show it... ;)
    Oh, there was no mistaking they were there.
    But apparently one could mistake the intent to KEEP them there... ;)
    True: they were well-seen above the groundcover.
    So one would have to tell the "weedpuller" not to pull those, since
    they were intentional... <G>
    Semi-said they were for replacement; wasn't going to keep them all -- maybe four or five were kept and the half-idea was to let them grow to
    see how healthy, potential shape, positioning, then select one. "No!"
    and with an evil gleam in the eye - <yank>! <faux whimper>

    So, does she have some other plan for replacing...? Or does she need to
    be reminded that trees are necessary for breathing....? ;)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Fri Jun 26 15:53:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    We hadn't gone as far as specific types of trees but did come to the
    conclusion it wasn't going to work here: mostly insufficient room and
    that was also going to cause a problem with at least one of the trees
    'growing funny' ==> shade cast by one would cause the other to grow
    'funny',
    Then I suppose that you'd have to choose between planting for the
    future generations, or planting for shade soon...
    I'll admit to being a little self-centered and would be planting more
    for me, though some consideration for the future: it would be a sturdy
    type of tree, so more hardwood than soft, and one that stands up to
    storms and winds.
    And the sooner you do plant it, the sooner there will be any benefit
    from it, whether short-term or long-term.... ;)
    Oddly enough true! <g>
    Sometimes one just has to state the obvious... ;)

    Sometimes it's needed to get off that proverbial fence!



    Ended up nothing replaced, even though I semi-sneakily allowed some
    of the seedlings to remain when I was weeding. They got plucked.
    (There's an area of shrubs, ground cover, some flowers, etc., in
    the section as around the tree the grass didn't grow all that well.)
    I guess you would have had to be more purposeful about leaving the
    seedlings there... and put guards around them to show it... ;)
    Oh, there was no mistaking they were there.
    But apparently one could mistake the intent to KEEP them there... ;)
    True: they were well-seen above the groundcover.
    So one would have to tell the "weedpuller" not to pull those, since
    they were intentional... <G>
    Semi-said they were for replacement; wasn't going to keep them all -- maybe four or five were kept and the half-idea was to let them grow to
    see how healthy, potential shape, positioning, then select one. "No!"
    and with an evil gleam in the eye - <yank>! <faux whimper>
    So, does she have some other plan for replacing...? Or does she
    need to be reminded that trees are necessary for breathing....? ;)

    So far the plan is no replacement tree. If the original one had
    provided shade to the house probably would have changed. As for O2,
    there are plenty of trees in the neighbourhood, though every so often
    hear/see one being cut down because died. Or falls over like the what happened several years ago across the street. Oddly the same general
    area is where about a month ago the limb broke off and part went through
    the roof into the kitchen.



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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Sat Jul 4 20:28:54 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 26-Jun-2020 15:53 <=-

    Then I suppose that you'd have to choose between planting for the
    future generations, or planting for shade soon...
    I'll admit to being a little self-centered and would be planting more
    for me, though some consideration for the future: it would be a sturdy
    type of tree, so more hardwood than soft, and one that stands up to
    storms and winds.
    And the sooner you do plant it, the sooner there will be any benefit
    from it, whether short-term or long-term.... ;)
    Oddly enough true! <g>
    Sometimes one just has to state the obvious... ;)
    Sometimes it's needed to get off that proverbial fence!

    And either choose... or decide to do nothing....

    Ended up nothing replaced, even though I semi-sneakily allowed some
    of the seedlings to remain when I was weeding. They got plucked.
    (There's an area of shrubs, ground cover, some flowers, etc., in
    the section as around the tree the grass didn't grow all that well.)
    I guess you would have had to be more purposeful about leaving the
    seedlings there... and put guards around them to show it... ;)
    Oh, there was no mistaking they were there.
    But apparently one could mistake the intent to KEEP them there... ;)
    True: they were well-seen above the groundcover.
    So one would have to tell the "weedpuller" not to pull those, since
    they were intentional... <G>
    Semi-said they were for replacement; wasn't going to keep them all --
    maybe four or five were kept and the half-idea was to let them grow to
    see how healthy, potential shape, positioning, then select one. "No!"
    and with an evil gleam in the eye - <yank>! <faux whimper>
    So, does she have some other plan for replacing...? Or does she
    need to be reminded that trees are necessary for breathing....? ;)
    So far the plan is no replacement tree. If the original one had
    provided shade to the house probably would have changed.

    One could place it closer to the house, to provide some shade
    (eventually)...

    As for O2, there are plenty of trees in the neighbourhood, though
    every so often hear/see one being cut down because died. Or falls
    over like the what happened several years ago across the street.

    People do tend to forget that tress are essential for the O2 they
    produce... so often trees are taken out and not replaced...

    Oddly the same general area is where about a month ago the limb broke
    off and part went through the roof into the kitchen.

    Not your kitchen, though.... ;)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Sun Jul 5 08:32:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    Then I suppose that you'd have to choose between planting for the
    future generations, or planting for shade soon...
    I'll admit to being a little self-centered and would be planting more
    for me, though some consideration for the future: it would be a sturdy
    type of tree, so more hardwood than soft, and one that stands up to
    storms and winds.
    And the sooner you do plant it, the sooner there will be any benefit
    from it, whether short-term or long-term.... ;)
    Oddly enough true! <g>
    Sometimes one just has to state the obvious... ;)
    Sometimes it's needed to get off that proverbial fence!
    And either choose... or decide to do nothing....

    I've been 'overridden' to do nothing and there's the possibility of some
    year tearing out all/most of that section where the tree was and the groundscover, several shrubs creating a sort of edge at the rear of the section, miscellaneous flowers and replacing with ??. At least isn't a this-tyear project.


    Ended up nothing replaced, even though I semi-sneakily allowed some
    of the seedlings to remain when I was weeding. They got plucked.
    (There's an area of shrubs, ground cover, some flowers, etc., in
    the section as around the tree the grass didn't grow all that well.)
    I guess you would have had to be more purposeful about leaving the
    seedlings there... and put guards around them to show it... ;)
    Oh, there was no mistaking they were there.
    But apparently one could mistake the intent to KEEP them there... ;)
    True: they were well-seen above the groundcover.
    So one would have to tell the "weedpuller" not to pull those, since
    they were intentional... <G>
    Semi-said they were for replacement; wasn't going to keep them all --
    maybe four or five were kept and the half-idea was to let them grow to
    see how healthy, potential shape, positioning, then select one. "No!"
    and with an evil gleam in the eye - <yank>! <faux whimper>
    So, does she have some other plan for replacing...? Or does she
    need to be reminded that trees are necessary for breathing....? ;)
    So far the plan is no replacement tree. If the original one had
    provided shade to the house probably would have changed.
    One could place it closer to the house, to provide some shade (eventually)...

    As I mentioned now there's some consideration to remove all/some of
    where the tree was.



    As for O2, there are plenty of trees in the neighbourhood, though
    every so often hear/see one being cut down because died. Or falls
    over like the what happened several years ago across the street.
    People do tend to forget that tress are essential for the O2 they produce... so often trees are taken out and not replaced...

    Unfortunately their CO2-to-O2 conversion is generally forgotten, as well
    as homes for birds and squirrels, shade-creation (so cooling!).


    Oddly the same general area is where about a month ago the limb broke
    off and part went through the roof into the kitchen.
    Not your kitchen, though.... ;)

    Fortunately no! Neighbour across the street,



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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Mon Jul 27 17:00:52 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 05-Jul-2020 08:32 <=-

    And the sooner you do plant it, the sooner there will be any benefit
    from it, whether short-term or long-term.... ;)
    Oddly enough true! <g>
    Sometimes one just has to state the obvious... ;)
    Sometimes it's needed to get off that proverbial fence!
    And either choose... or decide to do nothing....
    I've been 'overridden' to do nothing and there's the possibility of
    some year tearing out all/most of that section where the tree was and
    the groundscover, several shrubs creating a sort of edge at the rear of the section, miscellaneous flowers and replacing with ??. At least
    isn't a this-year project.

    Just as well, I suppose... sounds like what's in mind is a rather
    extensive project....

    As for O2, there are plenty of trees in the neighbourhood, though
    every so often hear/see one being cut down because died. Or falls
    over like the what happened several years ago across the street.
    People do tend to forget that tress are essential for the O2 they
    produce... so often trees are taken out and not replaced...
    Unfortunately their CO2-to-O2 conversion is generally forgotten, as
    well as homes for birds and squirrels, shade-creation (so cooling!).

    Sadly....

    Oddly the same general area is where about a month ago the limb broke
    off and part went through the roof into the kitchen.
    Not your kitchen, though.... ;)
    Fortunately no! Neighbour across the street,

    And his tree, not yours, hopefully....?

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Tue Jul 28 08:11:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    And the sooner you do plant it, the sooner there will be any benefit
    from it, whether short-term or long-term.... ;)
    Oddly enough true! <g>
    Sometimes one just has to state the obvious... ;)
    Sometimes it's needed to get off that proverbial fence!
    And either choose... or decide to do nothing....
    I've been 'overridden' to do nothing and there's the possibility of
    some year tearing out all/most of that section where the tree was and
    the groundscover, several shrubs creating a sort of edge at the rear of the section, miscellaneous flowers and replacing with ??. At least
    isn't a this-year project.
    Just as well, I suppose... sounds like what's in mind is a rather extensive project....

    It would be a large project: covers maybe a sixth of the back yard. And
    being big enough it would probably turn into a re-do of the entire back
    yard.



    Oddly the same general area is where about a month ago the limb broke
    off and part went through the roof into the kitchen.
    Not your kitchen, though.... ;)
    Fortunately no! Neighbour across the street,
    And his tree, not yours, hopefully....?

    It was her tree (or more accurately the landlord's).



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