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    From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Tue Jun 23 17:29:00 2020
    Subject: computers was: Resend moving or not was: C


    Hi Nancy!

    Just uploaded "Part 1" so I don't get too large a packet. Problem
    would be more with the OLMR than any other part. Plus it ended up
    yours was message #12345 - easy to memorize! (Plus different colours
    and markers.)
    You just had too many messages there from Daryl and me... <G> At
    least this isn't a multi-hundred message packet... <G>

    Not yet anyway!!


    There are some things and applications where Windows is a necessity.
    Agreed, reluctantly... ;) And that's partly why Richard has a
    selection of computers of his own... some with Linux, some with DOS,
    some with Windows, depending on what he needs/wants....
    I'm sort of visualizing someone browsing in front of a collection of
    computers like one would browse a magazine rack!
    Not quite.... ;) But he does have them all around him as he sits
    at his computer desk.... most are some sort of laptop.... :)
    All makes sense when one thinks about it a little. Different machines
    for different jobs. Here I could combine computers but easier and
    better to have some as dedicated to a particular job. No one-size- fits-all rule!
    Exactly. :) He likes to do his internet browsing, etc with his
    linux machine, but some websites require windows of some sort...
    And some of the programs he writes are for more than one
    platform, so he has to test them out on different machines with
    different OSes... and so forth... ;)

    I haven't run across a website in some time requiring Windows, but that
    could be because the Ubuntu version of Firefox has gotten better at
    decoding the Windows commands. Or the Iowa Attorney General has gotten
    after them. <g> Still, if one (Richard) wants to run a programme on
    various platforms one needs to test with the various platforms. Maybe
    for initial ease and convenience put it together on a virtual machine,
    but for the final verification steps pretty much need to run on a true machine.


    A while back I had a problem with some thumbdrives - not an off-brand
    -- and the repair required Windows - not even an inkling of a
    consideration for Mac much less Linux. IMO a bit short-sighted.
    One could say that... :)
    I'll admit to barely having an idea of the work to create a repair
    utility -- I know it's a lot of work! Seems like it is something that
    should have been done by now but for whatever reason hasn't. Know I'm
    not the only one who has screwed up thumbdrives; I'm probably like
    99.9% of those who have who has no idea how to create a repair utility
    and so relies on that 0.1%.
    Richard might be able to do it.... but I don't know if he has, or if
    he'd want to.... :)
    It seems not to be a simple job as there are no Linux-specific repair utilities -- of course someone has to be first!
    True... :)

    Sort of along Richard and others testing their programmes on a real
    machine I did find one little issue with trying to repair a bad
    thumbdrive on a Virtual Windows machine running on a Linux machine: if
    the Linux machine doens't detect the thumbdrive the virtual machine
    certainly won't!


    I've done that many a time with DOS, for the same reason... and yes,
    one really doesn't want to wait until it was really tight... <G>
    In my DOS Days I used to edit saved files to keep within the 2048 byte
    cluster size -- don't know if was worth the work but was a good review
    of the material!
    If things tended to always be tight, it might have been worth the
    work... Of course nowadays, the basic cluster size is a lot larger
    than that, so you end up wasting space with those smaller files... ;)
    Solved that problem with a 3 TB hard drive! ...414 GB (17%) used --
    wellllll, maybe was a bit of overkill!
    Ummmm, yes..... I'd say so.... just a bit of overkill... <G> For
    now, anyway... ;)
    Too much storage is better than not enough. I had semi-calculated how much I probably needed, based on the old computer's storage, the
    tacked-on external drive, etc. Must have counted something twice!
    Or what was newly available was obviously going to be at least
    enough, and then some... ;)

    Something like that! :) ...Better too much than not enough!



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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to Nancy Backus on Wed Jun 24 14:54:00 2020
    Nancy,

    You just had too many messages there from Daryl and me... <G> At least this isn't a multi-hundred message packet... <G>

    We both could work hard, and inundate Barry. <G> I had 32 personal
    messages (I didn't get to access the BBS the last few days, due to thunderstorms), and I have nearly 50 replies in this packet.

    ... Tagline procurement isn't stealing...it's an art and a science.

    Darn right it is!! :)

    Daryl

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Thu Jun 25 19:29:00 2020



    DARYL STOUT wrote to NANCY BACKUS <=-

    We both could work hard, and inundate Barry. <G> I had 32
    personal messages (I didn't get to access the BBS the last few
    days, due to thunderstorms), and I have nearly 50 replies in this
    packet.


    Bwahahaha! (Is that how it's spelt?) Back in the the hay-day of BBSs
    the BBS I called was across the River and was a major hub. As an
    individual I was beating entire BBSs in message posts! ...Please don't
    take that as a challenge!!



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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Tue Jun 30 18:35:48 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 23-Jun-2020 17:29 <=-
    Subject: computers was: Resend moving or not was: C

    Not quite.... ;) But he does have them all around him as he sits
    at his computer desk.... most are some sort of laptop.... :)
    All makes sense when one thinks about it a little. Different machines
    for different jobs. Here I could combine computers but easier and
    better to have some as dedicated to a particular job. No one-size-
    fits-all rule!
    Exactly. :) He likes to do his internet browsing, etc with his linux
    machine, but some websites require windows of some sort... And some of
    the programs he writes are for more than one platform, so he has to test
    them out on different machines with different OSes... and so forth... ;)
    I haven't run across a website in some time requiring Windows, but
    that could be because the Ubuntu version of Firefox has gotten better
    at decoding the Windows commands.

    Or you are just going to different websites.... ;)

    Or the Iowa Attorney General has gotten after them. <g>

    That could work for Iowa ones... <G>

    Still, if one (Richard) wants to run a programme on various platforms
    one needs to test with the various platforms. Maybe for initial ease
    and convenience put it together on a virtual machine, but for the
    final verification steps pretty much need to run on a true machine.

    Pretty much...

    I'll admit to barely having an idea of the work to create a repair
    utility -- I know it's a lot of work! Seems like it is something that
    should have been done by now but for whatever reason hasn't. Know I'm
    not the only one who has screwed up thumbdrives; I'm probably like
    99.9% of those who have who has no idea how to create a repair utility
    and so relies on that 0.1%.
    Richard might be able to do it.... but I don't know if he has, or if
    he'd want to.... :)
    It seems not to be a simple job as there are no Linux-specific repair
    utilities -- of course someone has to be first!
    True... :)
    Sort of along Richard and others testing their programmes on a real machine I did find one little issue with trying to repair a bad
    thumbdrive on a Virtual Windows machine running on a Linux machine: if
    the Linux machine doens't detect the thumbdrive the virtual machine certainly won't!

    True. :)

    Solved that problem with a 3 TB hard drive! ...414 GB (17%) used --
    wellllll, maybe was a bit of overkill!
    Ummmm, yes..... I'd say so.... just a bit of overkill... <G> For
    now, anyway... ;)
    Too much storage is better than not enough. I had semi-calculated how
    much I probably needed, based on the old computer's storage, the
    tacked-on external drive, etc. Must have counted something twice!
    Or what was newly available was obviously going to be at least
    enough, and then some... ;)
    Something like that! :) ...Better too much than not enough!

    True. ;)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Wed Jul 1 09:05:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    Not quite.... ;) But he does have them all around him as he sits
    at his computer desk.... most are some sort of laptop.... :)
    All makes sense when one thinks about it a little. Different machines
    for different jobs. Here I could combine computers but easier and
    better to have some as dedicated to a particular job. No one-size-
    fits-all rule!
    Exactly. :) He likes to do his internet browsing, etc with his linux
    machine, but some websites require windows of some sort... And some of
    the programs he writes are for more than one platform, so he has to test
    them out on different machines with different OSes... and so forth... ;)
    I haven't run across a website in some time requiring Windows, but
    that could be because the Ubuntu version of Firefox has gotten better
    at decoding the Windows commands.
    Or you are just going to different websites.... ;)

    That could be: subconsciously ignoring the ones leaning towards Windows.



    Still, if one (Richard) wants to run a programme on various platforms
    one needs to test with the various platforms. Maybe for initial ease
    and convenience put it together on a virtual machine, but for the
    final verification steps pretty much need to run on a true machine.
    Pretty much...

    One should in general find out the why to anything before argueing. :)
    For me a Virtual Windows works for what I do; for The Wizard and for
    what he does only real Windows would make sense. I prefer using a
    "full-sized" monitor and computer, plus use a 'portable computer' (smart
    cell phone) for when convenient. Others use only their cell phones
    because of what I interpret as advantages of a large/stationary system
    they find as drawback.


    Solved that problem with a 3 TB hard drive! ...414 GB (17%) used --
    wellllll, maybe was a bit of overkill!
    Ummmm, yes..... I'd say so.... just a bit of overkill... <G> For
    now, anyway... ;)
    Too much storage is better than not enough. I had semi-calculated how
    much I probably needed, based on the old computer's storage, the
    tacked-on external drive, etc. Must have counted something twice!
    Or what was newly available was obviously going to be at least
    enough, and then some... ;)
    Something like that! :) ...Better too much than not enough!
    True. ;)

    The good news is can add on an external drive very easily if one doesn't
    wish to go inside. Did that option with the old computer. Went inside
    plenty of times, and off-hand seems like there was an empty bay but as a temporary computer didn't want to bother. Or at least emphasise the
    temporary to get me to build the new machine.



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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Daryl Stout on Thu Jul 2 17:14:00 2020
    Quoting Daryl Stout to Nancy Backus on 24-Jun-2020 14:54 <=-

    You just had too many messages there from Daryl and me... <G> At
    least this isn't a multi-hundred message packet... <G>

    We both could work hard, and inundate Barry. <G> I had 32 personal messages (I didn't get to access the BBS the last few days, due to thunderstorms), and I have nearly 50 replies in this packet.

    No thank you... I try to keep my replies to Barry to about 5, mostly so
    *I* don't get inundated... ;) But that does keep me running behind.. ;)

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    Darn right it is!! :)

    Indeed... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Fri Jul 3 08:35:00 2020

    NANCY BACKUS wrote to DARYL STOUT <=-

    We both could work hard, and inundate Barry. <G> I had 32 personal messages (I didn't get to access the BBS the last few days, due to thunderstorms), and I have nearly 50 replies in this packet.
    No thank you... I try to keep my replies to Barry to about 5,
    mostly so *I* don't get inundated... ;) But that does keep me
    running behind.. ;)

    I need to combine the five messages into four to help you get caught up. ...Seems it would work on the surface but for some reason not! <g>



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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Mon Jul 20 00:48:00 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 03-Jul-2020 08:35 <=-
    NANCY BACKUS wrote to DARYL STOUT <=-

    We both could work hard, and inundate Barry. <G> I had 32 personal
    messages (I didn't get to access the BBS the last few days, due to
    thunderstorms), and I have nearly 50 replies in this packet.
    No thank you... I try to keep my replies to Barry to about 5, mostly
    so *I* don't get inundated... ;) But that does keep me running
    behind.. ;)
    I need to combine the five messages into four to help you get caught
    up. ...Seems it would work on the surface but for some reason not! <g>

    Um.... no, I don't think it would work out all that well... ;) When the messages get longer, it takes longer to answer, so I'd probably not be
    able to do a full 5... ;) I just need not to have weeks like this past
    one, where nothing was accomplished at all... ;0

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Mon Jul 20 09:11:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 03-Jul-2020 08:35 <=-
    NANCY BACKUS wrote to DARYL STOUT <=-
    We both could work hard, and inundate Barry. <G> I had 32 personal
    messages (I didn't get to access the BBS the last few days, due to
    thunderstorms), and I have nearly 50 replies in this packet.
    No thank you... I try to keep my replies to Barry to about 5, mostly
    so *I* don't get inundated... ;) But that does keep me running
    behind.. ;)
    I need to combine the five messages into four to help you get caught
    up. ...Seems it would work on the surface but for some reason not! <g>

    Um.... no, I don't think it would work out all that well... ;)
    When the messages get longer, it takes longer to answer, so I'd
    probably not be able to do a full 5... ;) I just need not to
    have weeks like this past one, where nothing was accomplished at
    all... ;0

    Shorter messages also work out better on this end -- no problems with
    the software and hardware, more a problem with the wetware looking for a logical point to get a cofee refill!



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