• Re: Resend PING Question

    From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Mon Jun 22 17:35:34 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 15-Jun-2020 09:54 <=-

    I've taken to calling it Medical Building Syndrome, since some
    buildings (whichever doctor office I'm in) seem to be more likely to
    trigger it than others... I keep track of the "good" readings to
    pass back to my PCP, since his is one of the bad ones... :)
    <chuckle> Of course! Years ago I had a check at the medical office:
    elevated. Literally a half-hour later at another doctor - back down
    to normal.
    Some people are better at hearing through the stethoscope than others
    are... and the automatic ones can be very inaccurate as well...
    True on both counts. Checking one source against another isn't always
    a bad thing, especially as I knew what my normal was. Wouldn't say my
    blood pressure wasn't elevated at the medical office, just knew it
    probably wasn't necessary to base a prescription on that isolated
    incident.

    I've had a 24-hour blood pressure test a couple of times... the
    cardiologist that monitored it decided that I don't really have high
    blood pressure, since it was perfectly normal at night, and passed that
    along to my then PCP... So, so far I've managed not to need any
    prescriptions for it, and have declined the offer as well... ;)

    closing down the massage therapy offices here has been more of an
    issue for me... it's been a weekly therapy for pain control for many
    years now... and my body is really getting unhappy without it...
    Yes, and having Richard or someone try to replicate at home just isn't
    the same.
    Exactly....
    Just think how enjoyable it will be when you do get to return to the
    massage studio!!
    It will probably take a few sessions to get even the bulk of the
    accumulated knots out, judging from past experience...
    After all this time it will probably be like starting from the
    beginning.
    Possibly.... I had a disappointment... my therapist called middle of
    last week, was ready to schedule again, and we were all scheduled for
    Saturday, when she had to cancel out after all.. Turns out she didn't
    have the go-ahead yet for opening the office.... So now I'm back to
    waiting still... sigh....
    Darn! Hopefully she can re-open soon and you get some therapy.

    Two weeks later, she was allowed to re-open, and I've now had two
    rubs... it really is going to take some time to get things back to more
    normal, but at least now the process is re-started... :) I have to wear
    a mask when not face down, she has to wear a mask and a face shield, and
    do extra sanitising of the office between clients... but it's nice to
    get the therapy again... :)

    Also that way you'll be waiting to see if the openings spark a new
    wave of the virus....
    That too! Unfortunately I'm predicting 'yes' just because of natural
    transmission, not sloppiness in protective measures. (You ought to
    see that spike without distancing, masks, etc.!)
    So IIRC last weekend the barber shops, gyms, and some other sites were
    allowed to open; I haven't heard a spike being reported by still a
    little early -- a spike being reported this morning would almost
    require everyone going out a week ago and mingling -- going to be a
    slower pace of venturing out into the world.
    Is that still the case, that there hasn't been any new spike from
    the openings...?
    There hasn't been. Lately the TV station has been reporting today's
    and yesterday's numbers and no chart to track past reports but appears
    no spikes and the curve evening out.

    That seems to be the case here, as well... I've heard that some states
    are having issues with new spikes, but maybe there's less care being
    taken by people as things begin to reopen...

    We've also considered similar, more of "will the rates go up?!" as
    opposed to "will they cancel us?!" -- a minor increase we'll put up
    with, otherwise there are other companies out there who will be more
    than happy to take our money. Our insurance agent is an agency and
    they have multiple options.
    With yours being clearly a weather-related incident, no fault at
    all of yours, even by a long stretch, I'd not expect any adverse
    consequences, actually... :)
    I'm not expecting a rise but perhaps preparing for a one-period
    increase of a few dollars just because of the way the numbers are crunched.

    They'd have to be revising rates across the entire spectrum of customers
    in your area, to do any sort of rate increase, I'd think....

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Tue Jun 23 17:29:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    I've taken to calling it Medical Building Syndrome, since some
    buildings (whichever doctor office I'm in) seem to be more likely to
    trigger it than others... I keep track of the "good" readings to
    pass back to my PCP, since his is one of the bad ones... :)
    <chuckle> Of course! Years ago I had a check at the medical office:
    elevated. Literally a half-hour later at another doctor - back down
    to normal.
    Some people are better at hearing through the stethoscope than others
    are... and the automatic ones can be very inaccurate as well...
    True on both counts. Checking one source against another isn't always
    a bad thing, especially as I knew what my normal was. Wouldn't say my
    blood pressure wasn't elevated at the medical office, just knew it
    probably wasn't necessary to base a prescription on that isolated
    incident.
    I've had a 24-hour blood pressure test a couple of times... the cardiologist that monitored it decided that I don't really have
    high blood pressure, since it was perfectly normal at night, and
    passed that along to my then PCP... So, so far I've managed not
    to need any prescriptions for it, and have declined the offer as
    well... ;)

    Just another reason for one to know what his or her normals are. Like
    when my pulse rate was definitely too rapid - that was caught at the
    doctor's office. There could be a few reasons so let's not panic and prescribe something quite yet. Monitored for a couple/few months,
    didn't get much better so not due to a transient factor. ...OK, I've convinced myself it's not a short term health quirk and so let's go
    ahead with the detailed checking.



    Darn! Hopefully she can re-open soon and you get some therapy.
    Two weeks later, she was allowed to re-open, and I've now had two
    rubs... it really is going to take some time to get things back
    to more normal, but at least now the process is re-started... :)
    I have to wear a mask when not face down, she has to wear a mask
    and a face shield, and do extra sanitising of the office between clients... but it's nice to get the therapy again... :)

    Yes, I can imagine! And her facility was probably never dirty: always replacing table covering, washing hands, etc., but with the possibility
    of COVID-19 just taking the extra precautions.



    Also that way you'll be waiting to see if the openings spark a new
    wave of the virus....
    That too! Unfortunately I'm predicting 'yes' just because of natural
    transmission, not sloppiness in protective measures. (You ought to
    see that spike without distancing, masks, etc.!)
    So IIRC last weekend the barber shops, gyms, and some other sites were
    allowed to open; I haven't heard a spike being reported by still a
    little early -- a spike being reported this morning would almost
    require everyone going out a week ago and mingling -- going to be a
    slower pace of venturing out into the world.
    Is that still the case, that there hasn't been any new spike from
    the openings...?
    There hasn't been. Lately the TV station has been reporting today's
    and yesterday's numbers and no chart to track past reports but appears
    no spikes and the curve evening out.
    That seems to be the case here, as well... I've heard that some
    states are having issues with new spikes, but maybe there's less
    care being taken by people as things begin to reopen...

    As I understand it a combination of more testing (so more reporting) and
    people improperly gathering. Can gather, can group, just need to do so
    with a bit of healthy caution. ...I'm surprised no one has done a
    "stranger danger" takeoff yet!



    We've also considered similar, more of "will the rates go up?!" as
    opposed to "will they cancel us?!" -- a minor increase we'll put up
    with, otherwise there are other companies out there who will be more
    than happy to take our money. Our insurance agent is an agency and
    they have multiple options.
    With yours being clearly a weather-related incident, no fault at
    all of yours, even by a long stretch, I'd not expect any adverse
    consequences, actually... :)
    I'm not expecting a rise but perhaps preparing for a one-period
    increase of a few dollars just because of the way the numbers are crunched.
    They'd have to be revising rates across the entire spectrum of
    customers in your area, to do any sort of rate increase, I'd
    think....

    The insurance companies might want to think twice as I'd guess at least
    50% of the houses in this area have had new roofs in the last month. Semi-unrelated is there have been ads on TV stating the Iowa Attorney
    General will prosecute price gouging due to COVID-19 and based on what
    he and his office has done in the past probably at least thirty years
    wouldn't have a problem investigating unnecessary insurance increases.



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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to Nancy Backus on Wed Jun 24 14:09:00 2020
    Nancy,

    I've had a 24-hour blood pressure test a couple of times... the cardiologist that monitored it decided that I don't really have high
    blood pressure, since it was perfectly normal at night, and passed that along to my then PCP... So, so far I've managed not to need any prescriptions for it, and have declined the offer as well... ;)

    While I have hypertension, the Metropolol is taking care of that very
    nicely.

    I went in this morning for the Low-T treatment. For a man (like we
    needed something else to worry about), not treating it can create, or
    aggravate cardiovascular and diabetes issues. While my heart is good,
    I'm pre-type 2 diabetic.

    The thing is, due to COVID-19, the Testapel (testosterone pellets)
    are back ordered until August. My urologist said "Your level is in the
    low end of the medium range, and I'm afraid if we wait until August for
    the next hip/buttocks cheek implant, your testosterone levels will
    CRASH, and that could cause big problems".

    So, I'm getting weekly shots in the hip, on the upper part of the
    buttock. I'm also getting monthly B12 shots in the same areas, because
    the medicine I'm taking for acid reflux is causing the B12 levels to
    plunge. I get full blood work (CBC) in September and March. The A1C has
    been holding steady at 6.1 -- but that's just shy of the threshold for
    type 2 diabetes, which would obviously be a major game changer.

    But, as noted previously, I don't care ones age or gender. If you
    don't take care of yourself, you're sure to be sorry. The one drawback
    is that those injection needles feel like barbed wire!!


    That seems to be the case here, as well... I've heard that some states
    are having issues with new spikes, but maybe there's less care being
    taken by people as things begin to reopen...

    Arkansas is having that as well. A bunch of folks ignored social
    distancing, etc. with the holidays...and I saw where the yearly July
    4 fireworks deal was cancelled, as was the Race For The Cure for breast cancer...all due to COVID-19. I haven't square danced since March, but
    I've noticed some clubs and areas starting dancing again. They likely
    are using masks and gloves...which I wouldn't mind...at least we'd be
    dancing. But, we tell folks if they're leery of getting out, or if they
    don't feel well, they should stay home.

    ... Everywhere is walking distance if you have the time - Steven Wright

    At least it's that between the bedrooms, bathrooms, and the kitchen
    here at home. <G>

    Daryl

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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Tue Jun 30 18:18:14 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 23-Jun-2020 17:29 <=-

    I've had a 24-hour blood pressure test a couple of times... the
    cardiologist that monitored it decided that I don't really have high
    blood pressure, since it was perfectly normal at night, and passed
    that along to my then PCP... So, so far I've managed not to need any
    prescriptions for it, and have declined the offer as well... ;)
    Just another reason for one to know what his or her normals are. Like when my pulse rate was definitely too rapid - that was caught at the doctor's office. There could be a few reasons so let's not panic and prescribe something quite yet. Monitored for a couple/few months,
    didn't get much better so not due to a transient factor. ...OK, I've convinced myself it's not a short term health quirk and so let's go
    ahead with the detailed checking.

    Right... don't want to treat unnecessarily, but also don't want to
    ignore a true problem... Saw my GYN last week, BP was normal enough
    there, so added it to the list for my PCP to see... ;)

    Darn! Hopefully she can re-open soon and you get some therapy.
    Two weeks later, she was allowed to re-open, and I've now had two
    rubs... it really is going to take some time to get things back
    to more normal, but at least now the process is re-started... :)
    I have to wear a mask when not face down, she has to wear a mask
    and a face shield, and do extra sanitising of the office between
    clients... but it's nice to get the therapy again... :)
    Yes, I can imagine! And her facility was probably never dirty: always replacing table covering, washing hands, etc., but with the
    possibility of COVID-19 just taking the extra precautions.

    Exactly. :)

    Also that way you'll be waiting to see if the openings spark a new
    wave of the virus....
    That too! Unfortunately I'm predicting 'yes' just because of natural
    transmission, not sloppiness in protective measures. (You ought to
    see that spike without distancing, masks, etc.!)
    So IIRC last weekend the barber shops, gyms, and some other sites were
    allowed to open; I haven't heard a spike being reported by still a
    little early -- a spike being reported this morning would almost
    require everyone going out a week ago and mingling -- going to be a
    slower pace of venturing out into the world.
    Is that still the case, that there hasn't been any new spike from
    the openings...?
    There hasn't been. Lately the TV station has been reporting today's
    and yesterday's numbers and no chart to track past reports but appears
    no spikes and the curve evening out.
    That seems to be the case here, as well... I've heard that some states
    are having issues with new spikes, but maybe there's less care being
    taken by people as things begin to reopen...
    As I understand it a combination of more testing (so more reporting)
    and people improperly gathering. Can gather, can group, just need to
    do so with a bit of healthy caution. ...I'm surprised no one has done
    a "stranger danger" takeoff yet!

    Apparently, there's not been much caution in the states that are spiking significantly... I can understand wanting to throw off the traces, but
    it's just a bit too early yet... As I understand it, too, in many
    cases, the states started opening too early and too fast... and/or
    hadn't shut down enough to begin with... People here have complained
    about how restrictive things were, and at the slow pace of reopening...
    but on the other hand, we still are continuing to decrease, despite more testings and practically being fully reopened, although still with masks
    and distancing and reduced occupancy.... :)

    We've also considered similar, more of "will the rates go up?!" as
    opposed to "will they cancel us?!" -- a minor increase we'll put up
    with, otherwise there are other companies out there who will be more
    than happy to take our money. Our insurance agent is an agency and
    they have multiple options.
    With yours being clearly a weather-related incident, no fault at
    all of yours, even by a long stretch, I'd not expect any adverse
    consequences, actually... :)
    I'm not expecting a rise but perhaps preparing for a one-period
    increase of a few dollars just because of the way the numbers are
    crunched.
    They'd have to be revising rates across the entire spectrum of
    customers in your area, to do any sort of rate increase, I'd think...
    The insurance companies might want to think twice as I'd guess at
    least 50% of the houses in this area have had new roofs in the last
    month. Semi-unrelated is there have been ads on TV stating the Iowa Attorney General will prosecute price gouging due to COVID-19 and based
    on what he and his office has done in the past probably at least thirty years wouldn't have a problem investigating unnecessary insurance increases.

    It could well be argued that these are extraordinary circumstances, and
    rates shouldn't be raised... also that the houses in question have
    increased their value and decreased their liability... ;)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Wed Jul 1 09:05:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    I've had a 24-hour blood pressure test a couple of times... the
    cardiologist that monitored it decided that I don't really have high
    blood pressure, since it was perfectly normal at night, and passed
    that along to my then PCP... So, so far I've managed not to need any
    prescriptions for it, and have declined the offer as well... ;)
    Just another reason for one to know what his or her normals are. Like when my pulse rate was definitely too rapid - that was caught at the doctor's office. There could be a few reasons so let's not panic and prescribe something quite yet. Monitored for a couple/few months,
    didn't get much better so not due to a transient factor. ...OK, I've convinced myself it's not a short term health quirk and so let's go
    ahead with the detailed checking.
    Right... don't want to treat unnecessarily, but also don't want
    to ignore a true problem... Saw my GYN last week, BP was normal
    enough there, so added it to the list for my PCP to see... ;)

    Yes: white coat syndrome, slight anxiety leftover from that car almost
    not stopping in time on the way to your appointment, etc., could cause a transient fluctuation.



    Also that way you'll be waiting to see if the openings spark a new
    wave of the virus....
    That too! Unfortunately I'm predicting 'yes' just because of natural
    transmission, not sloppiness in protective measures. (You ought to
    see that spike without distancing, masks, etc.!)
    So IIRC last weekend the barber shops, gyms, and some other sites were
    allowed to open; I haven't heard a spike being reported by still a
    little early -- a spike being reported this morning would almost
    require everyone going out a week ago and mingling -- going to be a
    slower pace of venturing out into the world.
    Is that still the case, that there hasn't been any new spike from
    the openings...?
    There hasn't been. Lately the TV station has been reporting today's
    and yesterday's numbers and no chart to track past reports but appears
    no spikes and the curve evening out.
    That seems to be the case here, as well... I've heard that some states
    are having issues with new spikes, but maybe there's less care being
    taken by people as things begin to reopen...
    As I understand it a combination of more testing (so more reporting)
    and people improperly gathering. Can gather, can group, just need to
    do so with a bit of healthy caution. ...I'm surprised no one has done
    a "stranger danger" takeoff yet!
    Apparently, there's not been much caution in the states that are
    spiking significantly... I can understand wanting to throw off
    the traces, but it's just a bit too early yet... As I understand
    it, too, in many cases, the states started opening too early and
    too fast... and/or hadn't shut down enough to begin with...
    People here have complained about how restrictive things were,
    and at the slow pace of reopening... but on the other hand, we
    still are continuing to decrease, despite more testings and
    practically being fully reopened, although still with masks and
    distancing and reduced occupancy.... :)

    Pretty much a definite agreement to all. LIS, additional testing will
    find more cases, which makes those number charts look frighting but
    probably a good thing as discovering low-level instances which would
    still be passing on the disease unknowlingly.

    From my sitting at the Computer Desk vantage point it seems the slow-
    but-sure openign (25%, then 50%...) makes more sense as easier to
    control gatherings just because less numbers. Of course that does
    assume compliance.

    The financial side of things -- <head spinning>. LISB4, fortunately
    I/we are retired and so our incomes were unaffected. Those working,
    relying on paychecks to come in... <wince> Fortunately many creditors
    are letting payments slide - for a while - but that money will have to be
    made up.


    We've also considered similar, more of "will the rates go up?!" as
    opposed to "will they cancel us?!" -- a minor increase we'll put up
    with, otherwise there are other companies out there who will be more
    than happy to take our money. Our insurance agent is an agency and
    they have multiple options.
    With yours being clearly a weather-related incident, no fault at
    all of yours, even by a long stretch, I'd not expect any adverse
    consequences, actually... :)
    I'm not expecting a rise but perhaps preparing for a one-period
    increase of a few dollars just because of the way the numbers are
    crunched.
    They'd have to be revising rates across the entire spectrum of
    customers in your area, to do any sort of rate increase, I'd think...
    The insurance companies might want to think twice as I'd guess at
    least 50% of the houses in this area have had new roofs in the last
    month. Semi-unrelated is there have been ads on TV stating the Iowa Attorney General will prosecute price gouging due to COVID-19 and based
    on what he and his office has done in the past probably at least thirty years wouldn't have a problem investigating unnecessary insurance increases.
    It could well be argued that these are extraordinary
    circumstances, and rates shouldn't be raised... also that the
    houses in question have increased their value and decreased their liability... ;)

    That's true!



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