Quoting Daryl Stout to Nancy Backus on 15-Jun-2020 09:56 <=-

Saturday night, a "backdoor cold front" (moved from northeast to
southwest across the state...instead the "normal" west to east, or northwest to southeast) sent out an "outflow boundary", causing thunderstorms to develop. One cell sat over downtown and midtown Little Rock, and DUMPED it's 500,000 tons of water. I got very little rain at
my location, but with lightning nearby, I was offline for a few hours.

Could have been worse.... but better safe than sorry... ;)

No sirens here, I don't get alarms on my cellphone... and of course
I'm not watching the TV... ;) But the NWS does break in to my radio
program if there is some weather threat in the region...

The people around here have called in death threats to the TV
stations, because they broke in with a tornado warning that wasn't for their area. What they refuse to accept is that the TV station doesn't
just serve their county, and it proves that they are selfish.

The NWS breaks in to my radio station, often with warnings for places
actually outside the station's range, but while I shake my head at it, I
just figure that it's part of what one lives with... ;)

When I checked this morning it was still stuck on May 17th... I check
regularly just in case something knocks it unstuck... ;)

We have to quit using glue in our QWK packets. <G>

Ah, but this isn't anything in the messaging... this is telnet to
Weather Underground's forecast... and it's still stuck on May 17th....

Lately, at least for here, norway seems to not be all that accurate
temperature wise... whether I look at it in F or in C degrees...
Richard got me going to weather.gov which is similar to wUnderground
(since it gets info from there anyway when it's working)... that gives
fairly current temperature, as well as a week's out forecast... :)

I use weather.gov exclusively, as the National Weather Service is
the only one authorized to issue watches, warnings, and advisories.

There are slight differences between the various sources, both in what
they issue and in how they present it.... Weather.gov at least seems to
be accurate... :)

I used to eat raisins as a snack; past several years no, though still
put a ton in my oatmeal or top the cereal -- "you want cereal with
your raisins?" could work!

I still eat them as a snack on occasion... we keep them in the house
for that and for cooking with... ;)

I like them, but they're like prunes to me. :P

I had a friend that was like that... whenever we needed to get her guts
moving, we'd give her raisins... ;) Or another things that worked for
her was applesauce.... ;)

ttyl neb

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Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 15-Jun-2020 09:54 <=-

And this begins the 4th and final set of 5 reposted messages... :)

Celebrations all around!! High five!! <Looking around> This darn 6' social distancing does have its drawbacks!

They are virtual high fives in any case... ;) (and more like 600+ miles distancing, as well... [g])

<chuckle> You know, I'm not sure! It seems like the test siren goes
on forever; I'm sure probably the same period as the actual warning,
just seems that way.

"You're just testing, so get on with it" vs being occupied with
figuring out what the real siren is warning about... <G>

Depending on the weather, wind, etc. the sirens (test mode or actual)
can be very loud. They slowly rotate, so naturally louder and softer
depending on which way pointed, but if the breeze right can carry the
sounds effectively making them louder. Seems humidity can affect
also. Sometimes all combined can make the siren sound like it's a block
away!

Well, they are designed to get your attention... ;) How far are
they actually from you...?

I'm not sure: I think the closest one is a few blocks away at the top
of the hill. With that location would cover the western portion of the downtown area and riverfront as well as the residentials areas on top
of the hill, as well as the very northeastern corner of Davenport.
There are seveal more sirens in the area I can hear, that's just the closest one.

So pretty close, and that does seem a well-reasoned placing... :)

They did go off yesterday afternoon: tornado spotted southeast of
here. Autumn was here and we were playing when the 'all-clear' siren
sounded; she was concerned and confused as with the first one the skies
were darkening, wind and rain, plus one or the other were looking at
the TV; this one no real reaction/concern. So I did explain the sirens
will go off to warn of possible bad weather and then also to tell us
when it's gone/done. Back to playing.

And now she'll know for when the next time comes... ;) Good that
the tornado didn't come too close to you after all, too.... :)

Autumn used to like storms, then for some reason became afraid, well,
more extremely cautious. I don't think anything happened to cause her reaction to change. IMO caution is good, fear/paranoia is not.
(Well, there are times fear is proper!)

Well, there are storms, and then there are storms... and kids pick up on
the way adults are reacting as well... :)

Being aware of conditions is a good habit to get into anyway... ;) And
if one is in an area where the weather could get nasty fast, having a
weather radio for alerts is probably another good practice... :)

I probably would get a weather radio if I didn't live in the city;
sirens, alarms from the cell phone.... The TV stations are also very
good about sticking radar maps in the bottom corner of the screen,
information crawls, breaking in when necessary.

No sirens here, I don't get alarms on my cellphone... and of course
I'm not watching the TV... ;) But the NWS does break in to my radio
program if there is some weather threat in the region...

Iowa PBS (state-wide network) does display various warnings in a top scroll (most stations/networks have their scrolls at the bottom). If a weather condition to monitor a map of Iowa with the counties affected
will be in the upper left. Adjoining states' counties will also be displayed as they are part of the coverage areas.

That could be convenient... ;)

As long as it is working... ;) telnet wUnderground was working for a
while but got stuck again on the 17th....

I just checked and not working properly: didn't even give the 2-letter
state codes (was going to double-check the three-letter code it
wanted).

When I checked this morning it was still stuck on May 17th...I check
regularly just in case something knocks it unstuck... ;)

And, last I checked, still stuck there... I wonder if they've abandoned
the telnet version entirely...

I've been primarily using ansiweather for current temperature
and 'finger <site>@graph.no' for the day's forecast.

Lately, at least for here, norway seems to not be all that accurate
temperature wise... whether I look at it in F or in C degrees...
Richard got me going to weather.gov which is similar to wUnderground
(since it gets info from there anyway when it's working)... that gives
fairly current temperature, as well as a week's out forecast... :)

I've also noted the Norweigen system seems to be predicting the day's
high temperature about five to degrees Fahrenheit below what the local station is predicting, and the higher temperature is more correct.

Yoday's graph was totally bogus... had temps to be dropping into the 70s instead of the 90s that's being predicted... we're under a heat advisory
until 7PM tonight...

I'll be restarting my Weather Station project in a bit -- right now a
few other projects in line (and that's the computer project line!).

Things keep you busy.... <G>

Put the a/c in here (the Computer Room) after Autumn went home
yesterday. Sort of didn't want to as blocks the view, hard to open
the window (from the top!), whine-whimper -- supposed to be in the
upper 80's today so will be put an end to the whinnnnnning. Tested the
central a/c -- seems to be fine.

Better to have it when needed... we only have fans, which just went
back into service today with the temps back in the 80s again...

Have been able to not run the central a/c for the past several days as cooler outside temperatures plus a nice breeze going through the
house. We generally have ceiling fans on to move the air around, even
when the air conditioning is on.

Ceiling fans are nice for moving air, year round even... :) We don't
have any here, though...

Was all that damage just from the hailstorm....? Or is some of it
being wrapped into this claim from earlier damages....? I suppose the
contractor can also let you know if your screens really are ready for
replacement all around...

AFAIK all the damage from the hailstorm. We never did see the damage
to the roof from the ground but very obvious from the copy of the
pictures the inspector took. Of course helps he has chalk marks
circling the impact dents but still obvious.

That would make things more obvious.... ;) Both the better vantage
point and the chalk marks... :)

True. Roof has been replaced - looks nice, has a reddish tone to it (selected that colour). Now waiting to get called back about having
the gutters, window trim, awnings and screens replaced (just the ones damaged). Then the patio and deck replacement! Then.....

It's all turned out to be a rather extensive house project... :)

As for the screens, during the meeting it was advised not to do the
add-on of the screens (the ones not ripped and therefore not covered)
as would cost about double of what we would pay doing ourselves.

Ah, so you might as well do that part yourself... :) Are you going
to have the same contractor do your back deck/porch while there...?

At this point no but will ask if they do that kind of work or a recommendation. We do have a company in mind for the deck/porch job
but have been waiting, in part because of the COVID-19 business
closures, in part because the credit union is closed as far as getting inside to talk to someone about a loan, in part because "one crisis at
a time"....

Makes sense... :) Our credit union has been doing only drive-thru for
most bank transactions, but one can make an appointment to enter the
bank itself for certain things, like loan applications and such...

The other day I had the bite-sized shredded wheat topped with a
bran-type cereal topped with raisins - tasted fine to me! :) To me
the single 'bale of hay' tastes bland plus is a bit of a fight to eat.

The raisins would definitely help.... :)

I used to eat raisins as a snack; past several years no, though still
put a ton in my oatmeal or top the cereal -- "you want cereal with
your raisins?" could work!

I still eat them as a snack on occasion... we keep them in the
house for that and for cooking with... ;)

Yes, not everyone likes raisins. ...I barely tolerate olives -
trade! <g>

I like olives fine, green, black, kalamata, whichever... ;) But I'm
keeping my raisins, too... ;) No trade... <g>

ttyl neb

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Hi Nancy!

And this begins the 4th and final set of 5 reposted messages... :)

Celebrations all around!! High five!! <Looking around> This darn 6' social distancing does have its drawbacks!

They are virtual high fives in any case... ;) (and more like
600+ miles distancing, as well... [g])

At least as the birdie flies!

<chuckle> You know, I'm not sure! It seems like the test siren goes
on forever; I'm sure probably the same period as the actual warning,
just seems that way.

"You're just testing, so get on with it" vs being occupied with
figuring out what the real siren is warning about... <G>

Depending on the weather, wind, etc. the sirens (test mode or actual)
can be very loud. They slowly rotate, so naturally louder and softer
depending on which way pointed, but if the breeze right can carry the
sounds effectively making them louder. Seems humidity can affect
also. Sometimes all combined can make the siren sound like it's a block
away!

Well, they are designed to get your attention... ;) How far are
they actually from you...?

I'm not sure: I think the closest one is a few blocks away at the top
of the hill. With that location would cover the western portion of the downtown area and riverfront as well as the residentials areas on top
of the hill, as well as the very northeastern corner of Davenport.
There are several more sirens in the area I can hear, that's just the closest one.

So pretty close, and that does seem a well-reasoned placing... :)

Yes: makes sense to place the siren on a high point and the top of the
bluff tends to cover a good area. ...Just too a semi-quick look and did
not see a map of where the sirens are. Maybe the real estate agents are
having it hid: I wouldn't want to live next to one!!

They did go off yesterday afternoon: tornado spotted southeast of
here. Autumn was here and we were playing when the 'all-clear' siren
sounded; she was concerned and confused as with the first one the skies
were darkening, wind and rain, plus one or the other were looking at
the TV; this one no real reaction/concern. So I did explain the sirens
will go off to warn of possible bad weather and then also to tell us
when it's gone/done. Back to playing.

And now she'll know for when the next time comes... ;) Good that
the tornado didn't come too close to you after all, too.... :)

Autumn used to like storms, then for some reason became afraid, well,
more extremely cautious. I don't think anything happened to cause her reaction to change. IMO caution is good, fear/paranoia is not.
(Well, there are times fear is proper!)

Well, there are storms, and then there are storms... and kids
pick up on the way adults are reacting as well... :)

True, though not always due to adult reactions: I get a slight shiver if
I am going under an overpass if a large truck is going over me at the
same time. No known reason, no fear, just that slight quiver.

Being aware of conditions is a good habit to get into anyway... ;) And
if one is in an area where the weather could get nasty fast, having a
weather radio for alerts is probably another good practice... :)

I probably would get a weather radio if I didn't live in the city;
sirens, alarms from the cell phone.... The TV stations are also very
good about sticking radar maps in the bottom corner of the screen,
information crawls, breaking in when necessary.

No sirens here, I don't get alarms on my cellphone... and of course
I'm not watching the TV... ;) But the NWS does break in to my radio
program if there is some weather threat in the region...

Iowa PBS (state-wide network) does display various warnings in a top scroll (most stations/networks have their scrolls at the bottom). If a weather condition to monitor a map of Iowa with the counties affected
will be in the upper left. Adjoining states' counties will also be displayed as they are part of the coverage areas.

That could be convenient... ;)

For them, yes. If something is happening or potentially happening any
source of information is welcomed.

As long as it is working... ;) telnet wUnderground was working for a
while but got stuck again on the 17th....

I just checked and not working properly: didn't even give the 2-letter
state codes (was going to double-check the three-letter code it
wanted).

When I checked this morning it was still stuck on May 17th...I check
regularly just in case something knocks it unstuck... ;)

And, last I checked, still stuck there... I wonder if they've
abandoned the telnet version entirely...

Possibly, though would have thought they would have taken down the site,

I've been primarily using ansiweather for current temperature
and 'finger <site>@graph.no' for the day's forecast.

Lately, at least for here, norway seems to not be all that accurate
temperature wise... whether I look at it in F or in C degrees...
Richard got me going to weather.gov which is similar to wUnderground
(since it gets info from there anyway when it's working)... that gives
fairly current temperature, as well as a week's out forecast... :)

I've also noted the Norweigen system seems to be predicting the day's
high temperature about five to degrees Fahrenheit below what the local station is predicting, and the higher temperature is more correct.

Yoday's graph was totally bogus... had temps to be dropping into
the 70s instead of the 90s that's being predicted... we're under
a heat advisory until 7PM tonight...

For me the predicted highs portions of the graph always seem about five
degrees low. Still, is a guideline. (Current/start of the graph always
seems to be within a degree or two. Easily that difference in live
reporting between the two NWS sites within five or six miles of the
house.)

I'll be restarting my Weather Station project in a bit -- right now a
few other projects in line (and that's the computer project line!).

Things keep you busy.... <G>

Semi-sorta a good thing to have postponed it. When switching from DSL
to fiber optic the LAN IP addresses went from 192.168.0.x to 192.168.4.x
-- the two don't see each other. Apparently there are ways to bridge
but seemed like another layer of complication to me. Updating the
computers is either as simple as turning off the connection and turning
it back on or rebooting (dynamic address), manually updating if a static address. Then there's the MythTV Backend which the 'general' computer
had a static address which was easy to update but for some reason the
database portion didn't want to update. Got the information on how to
fix this morning. Only a four day project. Got a few other computers
and devices which may pose a bit of a challenge, at least one because it
is 'headless': no monitor nor keyboard attached and designed to be
remotely accessed. OK, so if the remote access is on '4' and it's on
'0' and the two networks don't see each other..... Thinking might be
able to use the DSL router to artificially create the '0' network ==>
plug the headless device into the router, a laptop into the router.

Put the a/c in here (the Computer Room) after Autumn went home
yesterday. Sort of didn't want to as blocks the view, hard to open
the window (from the top!), whine-whimper -- supposed to be in the
upper 80's today so will be put an end to the whinnnnnning. Tested the
central a/c -- seems to be fine.

Better to have it when needed... we only have fans, which just went
back into service today with the temps back in the 80s again...

Have been able to not run the central a/c for the past several days as cooler outside temperatures plus a nice breeze going through the
house. We generally have ceiling fans on to move the air around, even
when the air conditioning is on.

Ceiling fans are nice for moving air, year round even... :) We
don't have any here, though...

I generally don't like the breeze of a ceiling fan (even on low) in the
winter because of the cooling effect of the moving air, but when warmer
that cooling effect sure is nice!!

Was all that damage just from the hailstorm....? Or is some of it
being wrapped into this claim from earlier damages....? I suppose the
contractor can also let you know if your screens really are ready for
replacement all around...

AFAIK all the damage from the hailstorm. We never did see the damage
to the roof from the ground but very obvious from the copy of the
pictures the inspector took. Of course helps he has chalk marks
circling the impact dents but still obvious.

That would make things more obvious.... ;) Both the better vantage
point and the chalk marks... :)

True. Roof has been replaced - looks nice, has a reddish tone to it (selected that colour). Now waiting to get called back about having
the gutters, window trim, awnings and screens replaced (just the ones damaged). Then the patio and deck replacement! Then.....

It's all turned out to be a rather extensive house project... :)

Yes. The balance of the repairs have not been done yet as they're
behind. Do need to get going on the patio and deck; a bit of a breather between one contractor and the next.

As for the screens, during the meeting it was advised not to do the
add-on of the screens (the ones not ripped and therefore not covered)
as would cost about double of what we would pay doing ourselves.

Ah, so you might as well do that part yourself... :) Are you going
to have the same contractor do your back deck/porch while there...?

At this point no but will ask if they do that kind of work or a recommendation. We do have a company in mind for the deck/porch job
but have been waiting, in part because of the COVID-19 business
closures, in part because the credit union is closed as far as getting inside to talk to someone about a loan, in part because "one crisis at
a time"....

Makes sense... :) Our credit union has been doing only
drive-thru for most bank transactions, but one can make an
appointment to enter the bank itself for certain things, like
loan applications and such...

The credit union(s) here is/are open now for about a week. No real need
to go in yet.

The other day I had the bite-sized shredded wheat topped with a
bran-type cereal topped with raisins - tasted fine to me! :) To me
the single 'bale of hay' tastes bland plus is a bit of a fight to eat.

The raisins would definitely help.... :)

I used to eat raisins as a snack; past several years no, though still
put a ton in my oatmeal or top the cereal -- "you want cereal with
your raisins?" could work!

I still eat them as a snack on occasion... we keep them in the
house for that and for cooking with... ;)

Yes, not everyone likes raisins. ...I barely tolerate olives -
trade! <g>

I like olives fine, green, black, kalamata, whichever... ;) But
I'm keeping my raisins, too... ;) No trade... <g>

OK, that's fair! :)


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Nancy,

thunderstorms to develop. One cell sat over downtown and midtown Little Rock, and DUMPED it's 500,000 tons of water. I got very little rain at
my location, but with lightning nearby, I was offline for a few hours.

Could have been worse.... but better safe than sorry... ;)

One ham radio operator took a direct hit...his tower, antenna, mast,
and coaxial cable, were VAPORIZED!! The surge protection was worthless
(even though he had spent untold dollars on it), as the insides of the
UPS units and computer towers were black as night, with the circuit
boards fused together...and he had scorch marks down his walls. I'll
bet he had to have the entire electrical system in his home redone.

The NWS breaks in to my radio station, often with warnings for places actually outside the station's range, but while I shake my head at it,
I just figure that it's part of what one lives with... ;)

The only time they break in here is for an Emergency Alert System (EAS) alert...such as a Tornado Warning, Flash Flood Warning, or Child Abduction Emergency (Amber Alert).

Ah, but this isn't anything in the messaging... this is telnet to
Weather Underground's forecast... and it's still stuck on May 17th....

One of my ham radio applications used to use Weather Underground, but
IBM owns them, and they got rid of the "free data lookup". So, the ham
radio application had to get a different weather app.

There are slight differences between the various sources, both in what they issue and in how they present it.... Weather.gov at least seems to
be accurate... :)

Meteorology is such an inexact science...as there are at least 2 dozen computer models to analyze. The Global Forecast System (GFS) runs every
6 hours, while most other models run every 12 hours. Each one handles
weather situations differently, depending on the season. There was a
cartoon, where there are 3 people working at desks in meteorology class.
The one with the European Model (ECMWF) was working feverishly at it. The
one with the GFS is looking at the ECMWF out of the corner of his eye, and
the North American Model (NAM) is "picking his nose". :P

It seemed like that on Christmas Day, 2012...when nearly a foot of snow
fell across Arkansas. The ECMWF model was spot on -- the GFS was a bit
off in amounts, and the NAM was nowhere near it.

I had a friend that was like that... whenever we needed to get her guts moving, we'd give her raisins... ;) Or another things that worked for
her was applesauce.... ;)

That will do me with apple juice...it's like Fletcher's Castoria.

I think of the old joke where the Sunday night before school the next morning, the kids get "a bad tummy ache", saying "they don't think they
can go to school in the morning". Well, Momma pulls out the castor oil
from the medicine cabinet...amazing at how fast they were cured. <G>

Daryl

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Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 23-Jun-2020 17:29 <=-

And this begins the 4th and final set of 5 reposted messages... :)

Celebrations all around!! High five!! <Looking around> This darn 6'
social distancing does have its drawbacks!

They are virtual high fives in any case... ;) (and more like 600+
miles distancing, as well... [g])

At least as the birdie flies!

True.... probably even more following the roads... ;)

Well, they are designed to get your attention... ;) How far are
they actually from you...?

I'm not sure: I think the closest one is a few blocks away at the top
of the hill. With that location would cover the western portion of the
downtown area and riverfront as well as the residentials areas on top
of the hill, as well as the very northeastern corner of Davenport.
There are several more sirens in the area I can hear, that's just the
closest one.

So pretty close, and that does seem a well-reasoned placing... :)

Yes: makes sense to place the siren on a high point and the top of the bluff tends to cover a good area. ...Just took a semi-quick look and
did not see a map of where the sirens are. Maybe the real estate
agents are having it hid: I wouldn't want to live next to one!!

Might have to look at the website of whoever operates them... NWS....?

And now she'll know for when the next time comes... ;) Good that
the tornado didn't come too close to you after all, too.... :)

Autumn used to like storms, then for some reason became afraid, well,
more extremely cautious. I don't think anything happened to cause her
reaction to change. IMO caution is good, fear/paranoia is not.
(Well, there are times fear is proper!)

Well, there are storms, and then there are storms... and kids pick
up on the way adults are reacting as well... :)

True, though not always due to adult reactions: I get a slight shiver
if I am going under an overpass if a large truck is going over me at
the same time. No known reason, no fear, just that slight quiver.

The subconscious racing through all the possible scenarios.... ;)

No sirens here, I don't get alarms on my cellphone... and of course
I'm not watching the TV... ;) But the NWS does break in to my radio
program if there is some weather threat in the region...

Iowa PBS (state-wide network) does display various warnings in a top
scroll (most stations/networks have their scrolls at the bottom). If a
weather condition to monitor a map of Iowa with the counties affected
will be in the upper left. Adjoining states' counties will also be
displayed as they are part of the coverage areas.

That could be convenient... ;)

For them, yes. If something is happening or potentially happening any source of information is welcomed.

Indeed. :)

As long as it is working... ;) telnet wUnderground was working for a
while but got stuck again on the 17th....

I just checked and not working properly: didn't even give the 2-letter
state codes (was going to double-check the three-letter code it
wanted).

When I checked this morning it was still stuck on May 17th...I check
regularly just in case something knocks it unstuck... ;)

And, last I checked, still stuck there... I wonder if they've
abandoned the telnet version entirely...

Possibly, though would have thought they would have taken down the
site,

But Firsts getting in their way, maybe...? Still stuck as of last night....

I've been primarily using ansiweather for current temperature
and 'finger <site>@graph.no' for the day's forecast.

Lately, at least for here, norway seems to not be all that accurate
temperature wise... whether I look at it in F or in C degrees...
Richard got me going to weather.gov which is similar to wUnderground
(since it gets info from there anyway when it's working)... that gives
fairly current temperature, as well as a week's out forecast... :)

I've also noted the Norweigen system seems to be predicting the day's
high temperature about five to degrees Fahrenheit below what the local
station is predicting, and the higher temperature is more correct.

Today's graph was totally bogus... had temps to be dropping into the
70s instead of the 90s that's being predicted... we're under a heat
advisory until 7PM tonight...

For me the predicted highs portions of the graph always seem about
five degrees low. Still, is a guideline. (Current/start of the graph always seems to be within a degree or two. Easily that difference in
live reporting between the two NWS sites within five or six miles of
the house.)

I still check it periodically... once in a while, it seems to be closer on
than other times.... Decided not to depend on it for accuracy, get that
from the weather.gov site, but Richard says the curve itself is somewhat accurate, if offset from where it should be.... so do look at it for the jollies... ;)

I'll be restarting my Weather Station project in a bit -- right now a
few other projects in line (and that's the computer project line!).

Things keep you busy.... <G>

Semi-sorta a good thing to have postponed it. When switching from DSL
to fiber optic the LAN IP addresses went from 192.168.0.x to
192.168.4.x -- the two don't see each other. Apparently there are ways
to bridge but seemed like another layer of complication to me.
Updating the computers is either as simple as turning off the
connection and turning it back on or rebooting (dynamic address),
manually updating if a static address. Then there's the MythTV Backend which the 'general' computer had a static address which was easy to
update but for some reason the database portion didn't want to update. Got the information on how to fix this morning. Only a four day
project. Got a few other computers and devices which may pose a bit of
a challenge, at least one because it is 'headless': no monitor nor keyboard attached and designed to be remotely accessed. OK, so if the remote access is on '4' and it's on '0' and the two networks don't see each other..... Thinking might be able to use the DSL router to artificially create the '0' network ==> plug the headless device into
the router, a laptop into the router.

That's kept you busy.... ;)

Better to have it when needed... we only have fans, which just went
back into service today with the temps back in the 80s again...

Have been able to not run the central a/c for the past several days as
cooler outside temperatures plus a nice breeze going through the
house. We generally have ceiling fans on to move the air around, even
when the air conditioning is on.

Ceiling fans are nice for moving air, year round even... :) We don't
have any here, though...

I generally don't like the breeze of a ceiling fan (even on low) in
the winter because of the cooling effect of the moving air, but when warmer that cooling effect sure is nice!!

One is supposed to reverse the direction so that it moves the heat back
down to the rest of the room... ;)

True. Roof has been replaced - looks nice, has a reddish tone to it
(selected that colour). Now waiting to get called back about having
the gutters, window trim, awnings and screens replaced (just the ones
damaged). Then the patio and deck replacement! Then.....

It's all turned out to be a rather extensive house project... :)

Yes. The balance of the repairs have not been done yet as they're
behind. Do need to get going on the patio and deck; a bit of a
breather between one contractor and the next.

And besides, everyone and his brother are needing their services to fix
things up after that hailstorm..... But one does need to get the jobs
done while the weather is good... ;)

We do have a company in mind for the deck/porch job but have been
waiting, in part because of the COVID-19 business closures, in part
because the credit union is closed as far as getting inside to talk
to someone about a loan, in part because "one crisis at a time"....

Makes sense... :) Our credit union has been doing only drive-thru
for most bank transactions, but one can make an appointment to enter
the bank itself for certain things, like loan applications and such...

The credit union(s) here is/are open now for about a week. No real
need to go in yet.

Ours is gradually opening up the insides of the branches now... first
added to the approved list for appointments, and I think in a week or
two is supposed to do limited capacity inside teller service....

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Hi Nancy!

And this begins the 4th and final set of 5 reposted messages... :)

Celebrations all around!! High five!! <Looking around> This darn 6'
social distancing does have its drawbacks!

They are virtual high fives in any case... ;) (and more like 600+
miles distancing, as well... [g])

At least as the birdie flies!

True.... probably even more following the roads... ;)

Some of the original ones are more like the cow wanders!

Not sure when this came up in the last week but the last few newscasts
has announced people from Iowa would be quarantined for fourteen days if
they were to visit New York (State) - that would blow most vacations!
This morning's newscast said anyone coming from a state whose incidence
rate is 10% will be quarantined; we only have 9.5%, which does round up.
Not sure how they pull and quarantine -- go now and get put in a decent
hotel for two weeks!

Well, they are designed to get your attention... ;) How far are
they actually from you...?

I'm not sure: I think the closest one is a few blocks away at the top
of the hill. With that location would cover the western portion of the
downtown area and riverfront as well as the residentials areas on top
of the hill, as well as the very northeastern corner of Davenport.
There are several more sirens in the area I can hear, that's just the
closest one.

So pretty close, and that does seem a well-reasoned placing... :)

Yes: makes sense to place the siren on a high point and the top of the bluff tends to cover a good area. ...Just took a semi-quick look and
did not see a map of where the sirens are. Maybe the real estate
agents are having it hid: I wouldn't want to live next to one!!

Might have to look at the website of whoever operates them...
NWS....?

I'm pretty sure I heard more Scott County being in charge, with input
from NWS, spotters, and other agencies so Googled something like Scott
County emergency siren map and saw this:

https://www.scottcountyiowa.gov/ema/sirens

Click and see:

Sirens
More coming soon: Sirens

Maybe they have to plot the locations too! <g>

Most of the initial hits were for why and when they sirens sound and
that error a while back when the sirens sounded accidentally.

And now she'll know for when the next time comes... ;) Good that
the tornado didn't come too close to you after all, too.... :)

Autumn used to like storms, then for some reason became afraid, well,
more extremely cautious. I don't think anything happened to cause her
reaction to change. IMO caution is good, fear/paranoia is not.
(Well, there are times fear is proper!)

Well, there are storms, and then there are storms... and kids pick
up on the way adults are reacting as well... :)

True, though not always due to adult reactions: I get a slight shiver
if I am going under an overpass if a large truck is going over me at
the same time. No known reason, no fear, just that slight quiver.

The subconscious racing through all the possible scenarios.... ;)

Probably due to some cartoon I saw or something equally semi-silly. No reaction if no vehicles going overhead at the time, Car might cause a double-look type reaction.

As long as it is working... ;) telnet wUnderground was working for a
while but got stuck again on the 17th....

I just checked and not working properly: didn't even give the 2-letter
state codes (was going to double-check the three-letter code it
wanted).

When I checked this morning it was still stuck on May 17th...I check
regularly just in case something knocks it unstuck... ;)

And, last I checked, still stuck there... I wonder if they've
abandoned the telnet version entirely...

Possibly, though would have thought they would have taken down the
site,

But Firsts getting in their way, maybe...? Still stuck as of
last night....

I'll have to get working on my Raspberry Pi weather display project
again. ...Did a bit of snooping to see if something changed, mainly
'early century' hits (from 2011, etc.). Did see one "telnet rainmaker.wunderground.com 3000" so tried that as not sure what '3000'
does; I'd guess a designate a port which either would open the routine
totally or redirect to a different one than default. Like you got data
stuck on May 17.

You'll have to get on a Linux machine or find the equivalent Windows
command: curl -s wttr.in/davenport | head -7

Command as above will give an ASCII icon of the current conditions
(right now a drawing of a cloud), sky conditions, temperature, wind
speed, visibility and rainfall amount.

Leave from pipe to the end off and get a three day forecast at morning,
noon, evening, and night.

I've been primarily using ansiweather for current temperature
and 'finger <site>@graph.no' for the day's forecast.

Lately, at least for here, norway seems to not be all that accurate
temperature wise... whether I look at it in F or in C degrees...
Richard got me going to weather.gov which is similar to wUnderground
(since it gets info from there anyway when it's working)... that gives
fairly current temperature, as well as a week's out forecast... :)

I've also noted the Norweigen system seems to be predicting the day's
high temperature about five to degrees Fahrenheit below what the local
station is predicting, and the higher temperature is more correct.

Today's graph was totally bogus... had temps to be dropping into the
70s instead of the 90s that's being predicted... we're under a heat
advisory until 7PM tonight...

For me the predicted highs portions of the graph always seem about
five degrees low. Still, is a guideline. (Current/start of the graph always seems to be within a degree or two. Easily that difference in
live reporting between the two NWS sites within five or six miles of
the house.)

I still check it periodically... once in a while, it seems to be
closer on than other times.... Decided not to depend on it for
accuracy, get that from the weather.gov site, but Richard says
the curve itself is somewhat accurate, if offset from where it
should be.... so do look at it for the jollies... ;)

I generally consider the weather forecasts from any source as an
educated guess -- the education level seems to vary! They might get
more respect if they said "today's hig temperature wil be in the upper
80's:" as opposed to "it will be 88ø".

I'll be restarting my Weather Station project in a bit -- right now a
few other projects in line (and that's the computer project line!).

Things keep you busy.... <G>

Semi-sorta a good thing to have postponed it. When switching from DSL
to fiber optic the LAN IP addresses went from 192.168.0.x to
192.168.4.x -- the two don't see each other. Apparently there are ways
to bridge but seemed like another layer of complication to me.
Updating the computers is either as simple as turning off the
connection and turning it back on or rebooting (dynamic address),
manually updating if a static address. Then there's the MythTV Backend which the 'general' computer had a static address which was easy to
update but for some reason the database portion didn't want to update.
Got the information on how to fix this morning. Only a four day
project. Got a few other computers and devices which may pose a bit of
a challenge, at least one because it is 'headless': no monitor nor keyboard attached and designed to be remotely accessed. OK, so if the remote access is on '4' and it's on '0' and the two networks don't see each other..... Thinking might be able to use the DSL router to artificially create the '0' network ==> plug the headless device into
the router, a laptop into the router.

That's kept you busy.... ;)

Yes -- surprisingly easy once know how to do it! ...Like anything, of
course. I was half-figuring would need to do some sort of fancy wiring
between the old and new routers, changing the mode of one, etc., etc.
Fine if needed permanantly. Did find a command line: essentially told
the specific computer to add the 0.x address to 4.x address - now works
with both address sets! Reboot - the magic disappears!

So as far as I know all of the computers in regular use have been
updated and are connecting. Yea! :)

Better to have it when needed... we only have fans, which just went
back into service today with the temps back in the 80s again...

Have been able to not run the central a/c for the past several days as
cooler outside temperatures plus a nice breeze going through the
house. We generally have ceiling fans on to move the air around, even
when the air conditioning is on.

Ceiling fans are nice for moving air, year round even... :) We don't
have any here, though...

I generally don't like the breeze of a ceiling fan (even on low) in
the winter because of the cooling effect of the moving air, but when warmer that cooling effect sure is nice!!

One is supposed to reverse the direction so that it moves the
heat back down to the rest of the room... ;)

Yes, do switch most fans' direction. Up here in the Computer Room I
tend to leave it as when reversed the breeze comes straight down on me
and tends to be a little uncomfortable. Might have something to do with
the angled ceiling as the room is in the story-and-a-half portion of the
house.

True. Roof has been replaced - looks nice, has a reddish tone to it
(selected that colour). Now waiting to get called back about having
the gutters, window trim, awnings and screens replaced (just the ones
damaged). Then the patio and deck replacement! Then.....

It's all turned out to be a rather extensive house project... :)

Yes. The balance of the repairs have not been done yet as they're
behind. Do need to get going on the patio and deck; a bit of a
breather between one contractor and the next.

And besides, everyone and his brother are needing their services
to fix things up after that hailstorm..... But one does need to
get the jobs done while the weather is good... ;)

Right: eveyone was wanting their roofs now and all those nows were concentrated because the damage happened at the same time. Plus even
less spread-out because some of those roofs would not have been replaced normally until five or ten years from now.

Still waiting on the gutters, etc.

We do have a company in mind for the deck/porch job but have been
waiting, in part because of the COVID-19 business closures, in part
because the credit union is closed as far as getting inside to talk
to someone about a loan, in part because "one crisis at a time"....

Makes sense... :) Our credit union has been doing only drive-thru
for most bank transactions, but one can make an appointment to enter
the bank itself for certain things, like loan applications and such...

The credit union(s) here is/are open now for about a week. No real
need to go in yet.

Ours is gradually opening up the insides of the branches now...
first added to the approved list for appointments, and I think in
a week or two is supposed to do limited capacity inside teller
service....

My credit union sent out an e-mail announcement the lobby is open,
practicing social distancing, etc., but I haven't needed to go yet so
haven't seen in practice. I go to the headquarters site and they have a
huge lobby so we were practically practing social distancing before
anyway!


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Quoting Daryl Stout to Nancy Backus on 24-Jun-2020 12:44 <=-

thunderstorms to develop. One cell sat over downtown and midtown Little
Rock, and DUMPED it's 500,000 tons of water. I got very little rain at
my location, but with lightning nearby, I was offline for a few hours.

Could have been worse.... but better safe than sorry... ;)

One ham radio operator took a direct hit...his tower, antenna, mast,
and coaxial cable, were VAPORIZED!! The surge protection was worthless (even though he had spent untold dollars on it), as the insides of the
UPS units and computer towers were black as night, with the circuit
boards fused together...and he had scorch marks down his walls. I'll
bet he had to have the entire electrical system in his home redone.

Even if he'd had everything unplugged, wouldn't a direct hit still have vaporized at least the tower/antenna/mast etc...?

The NWS breaks in to my radio station, often with warnings for places
actually outside the station's range, but while I shake my head at it,
I just figure that it's part of what one lives with... ;)

The only time they break in here is for an Emergency Alert System
(EAS) alert...such as a Tornado Warning, Flash Flood Warning, or Child Abduction Emergency (Amber Alert).

That's all they break in for here as well... minus the Amber Alert...

There are slight differences between the various sources, both in what
they issue and in how they present it.... Weather.gov at least seems to
be accurate... :)

Meteorology is such an inexact science...as there are at least 2
dozen computer models to analyze. The Global Forecast System (GFS) runs every 6 hours, while most other models run every 12 hours. Each one handles weather situations differently, depending on the season. There
was a cartoon, where there are 3 people working at desks in meteorology class. The one with the European Model (ECMWF) was working feverishly
at it. The one with the GFS is looking at the ECMWF out of the corner
of his eye, and the North American Model (NAM) is "picking his nose". :P It seemed like that on Christmas Day, 2012...when nearly a foot of
snow fell across Arkansas. The ECMWF model was spot on -- the GFS was a bit off in amounts, and the NAM was nowhere near it.

Could have been coincidence... ;) Do you know which weather.gov
uses...?

I had a friend that was like that... whenever we needed to get her guts
moving, we'd give her raisins... ;) Or another thing that worked for
her was applesauce.... ;)

That will do me with apple juice...it's like Fletcher's Castoria.
I think of the old joke where the Sunday night before school the next morning, the kids get "a bad tummy ache", saying "they don't think they can go to school in the morning". Well, Momma pulls out the castor oil from the medicine cabinet...amazing at how fast they were cured. <G>

Castor oil is one thing I don't remember being in the medicine cabinet,
growing up... :) Never needed it, in any case... :)

ttyl neb

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Nancy,

Even if he'd had everything unplugged, wouldn't a direct hit still have vaporized at least the tower/antenna/mast etc...?

Yes, it would have. I've gotten so where I unplug the UPS units when
there's a threat of lightning. I have surge protection at the electric
meter outside, but one can't be too careful.

That's all they break in for here as well... minus the Amber Alert...

It may be up to the individual stations, but if EAS activation is
requested, they have to send it.

It seemed like that on Christmas Day, 2012...when nearly a foot of
snow fell across Arkansas. The ECMWF model was spot on -- the GFS was a bit off in amounts, and the NAM was nowhere near it.

Could have been coincidence... ;) Do you know which weather.gov
uses...?

It depends on the situation. The meterologists at each local office
know local climatology, and history of how the models run. If the
solutions are similar, they just "blend them". But, there are some
days when "the model solutions are totally out to lunch, and will be
discarded" <G>. Thnkfully, it's one of the models that get skewed,
and not all of them.

Castor oil is one thing I don't remember being in the medicine cabinet, growing up... :) Never needed it, in any case... :)

It's rare I need Miralax or Immodium, but I'm glad I have it.

Daryl

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Barry,

Most of the initial hits were for why and when they sirens sound and
that error a while back when the sirens sounded accidentally.

I think in central Arkansas, selected folks near the sirens are
called, or they call the local 911 center, to advise if the siren
test worked properly (shut off after 30 seconds). The worst time
for a tornado warning would be when they test them (12 noon on
Wednesday). Except for the meteorologists, storm spotters, and
emergency personnel, no one else would know the difference.

I generally consider the weather forecasts from any source as an
educated guess -- the education level seems to vary! They might get
more respect if they said "today's hig temperature wil be in the upper 80's:" as opposed to "it will be 88ø".

Considering there are at least 2 dozen forecast models that have to
be analyzed from 2 to 4 times a day.

So as far as I know all of the computers in regular use have been
updated and are connecting. Yea! :)

Between thunderstorms and erratic nature of Xfinity, I've been offline
more than online lately.

Yes, do switch most fans' direction. Up here in the Computer Room I
tend to leave it as when reversed the breeze comes straight down on me
and tends to be a little uncomfortable. Might have something to do
with the angled ceiling as the room is in the story-and-a-half portion
of the house.

I need to get a portable fan..the pull cord on the ceiling fan in my
bedroom broke.

Still waiting on the gutters, etc.

You'll find several in the bowling alley down the street. <G>

My credit union sent out an e-mail announcement the lobby is open, practicing social distancing, etc., but I haven't needed to go yet so haven't seen in practice. I go to the headquarters site and they have
a huge lobby so we were practically practing social distancing before anyway!

Without a credit card, I don't worry about a credit union. I never
bothered to rebuild my credit after bankruptcy 11 years ago.

Daryl

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Hi Daryl!

Most of the initial hits were for why and when they sirens sound and
that error a while back when the sirens sounded accidentally.

I think in central Arkansas, selected folks near the sirens are
called, or they call the local 911 center, to advise if the siren
test worked properly (shut off after 30 seconds).

The siren tests here are the first Tuesday of the month at 10 a.m.
unless there is severe weather in the area. Seems like they last five
minutes -- maybe also testing back-up power and 'hearability' -- only
designed to be heard outside but want to make sure it's heard when the
leaves are on the trees, the siren is rotating 360ø (especially in
winter when could be frozen), etc.

The worst time
for a tornado warning would be when they test them (12 noon on
Wednesday). Except for the meteorologists, storm spotters, and
emergency personnel, no one else would know the difference.

Mother Nature: <looking at watch> "Five... four... three...two... one!
Let 'er rip!! <cackle>"

I generally consider the weather forecasts from any source as an
educated guess -- the education level seems to vary! They might get
more respect if they said "today's high temperature will be in the upper 80's:" as opposed to "it will be 88ø".

Considering there are at least 2 dozen forecast models that
have to be analyzed from 2 to 4 times a day.

<throwing darts to select> This one.... now this one.....

So as far as I know all of the computers in regular use have been
updated and are connecting. Yea! :)

Between thunderstorms and erratic nature of Xfinity, I've been
offline more than online lately.

That 'erratic Xfinity' would be causing me to either 'stink on poop'
them to get the problem fixed or be looking into alterative providers.

Yes, do switch most fans' direction. Up here in the Computer Room I
tend to leave it as when reversed the breeze comes straight down on me
and tends to be a little uncomfortable. Might have something to do
with the angled ceiling as the room is in the story-and-a-half portion
of the house.

I need to get a portable fan..the pull cord on the ceiling fan
in my bedroom broke.

Ooo! Shopping trip -- out of the house! --- Hey! What'cha doin'
on-line?!

A few years back I got my Mother a Lasko 3542 fan from Target -- only
reason I remmeber that is I updated my e-mail address with them last
night and have a note on the page in the password Book. ...OK, no
longer available (has been a couple of years) -- maybe the spec are
on-line someplace. Appears the current equivalent is the "20-inch
Cyclone Fan with Remote". I didn't see a model number, and appears the
3520 further down the page is similar but a junk version by the low
ratings.

Still waiting on the gutters, etc.

You'll find several in the bowling alley down the street. <G>

Thanks for the idea! Did find a couple outside on the side of the
street!

My credit union sent out an e-mail announcement the lobby is open, practicing social distancing, etc., but I haven't needed to go yet so haven't seen in practice. I go to the headquarters site and they have
a huge lobby so we were practically practing social distancing before anyway!

Without a credit card, I don't worry about a credit union. I
never bothered to rebuild my credit after bankruptcy 11 years
ago.

I probably wouldn't be overly concerned with my FICO Score but for me
the convenience of the credit card. OTOH I use the credit card more as
a debit card: my mindset is the piece of plastic is just an easier and
more convenient way for me to pay for the item; it has to be repaid.

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