Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 19-May-2020 11:10 <=-
Yes -- as for swapping the CPU Heat Sink not like I haven't done
before -- heat sink part is fine but the fan froze -- just never had
swapped in a totally different - in this case monster - heat sink. And
was suckered in by the original one being "AMD approved" -- well, that
means it should be right and do the job, right?
One would have thought.... but maybe it was approved for some other
job....? <G>
Apparently it's job was to be cooling a much lighter capacity
processor!
And now you know... <G>Ah! I neglected to to check _which_ one it was approved for!!
(Actually I had and my processor was listed.)
As for the cameras, got that working. No idea why the real-time
failure with the original software, and appears for whatever reason the
new/updated software either isn't an energy efficient or because it
does more and so the processor does more work ==> heat and current
draw. Ended up putting in a metal case with extensions inside which
contact the CPU, etc., and so draw the heat of better than the original
heat sinks. (The metal case is warm to the touch!). That seems to
have been the problem.
Making it work harder and thus generating more heat, does seem to be a
possibility, even in my limited area of knowledge here... :) Finding
a way to dissipate that heat makes sense, too...
Yes, those chips just don't like to be too warm! Didn't quite make
sense why the original hardware wasn't liking the updated software
but.... I had the metal case in stock for another project, and did my
"buy two, they're cheap!" philosophy. Actually still have a spare:
did buy two but the original project changed.
Funny how that happens, sometimes... :) But handy to have for theIf cheap enough spares are handy!
project at hand.... :)
Dunno... one could run the experiment on a variety of variously
sunny days, and see if it makes much (or any) difference... ;)
Yes, see what happens on a fully sunny day which would be running
under ideal conditions and so find out what my maximum voltage would
be. Lesser sunny to overcast days would have less solar output and so
need to tweak the solar cell's positioning to make the best of what is
available.
All seems like workable situations and all... ;)
Yes, eventually back to that project. I haven't been down in the
basement for a while; some stuff up here in the Computer Room, some
Spring yard work.....
You'll get back to it in due time... :)
Yes: when it gets to 90 and 100 outside I'l be looking for an indoor
project!
And a cool basement will be very inviting... <G>True. I haven't been down there for anything but putting away
groceries or 'going shopping'.
Likely any price increase would be hidden.... It might be the same
price per container, but the net weight or volume has decreased
slightly... thinking that the customer is less likely to notice that
sort of thing... ;)
Yes: keep the price and container the same but less contents.
Or tweak the container just a little so that it's not all that
noticeable... ;0
They've probably done that to us consumers, I'm sure! Not false
advertising as long as they keep the weight display consistent.
Ice cream containers are a case in point where they did do that...Right: more trained by size. Have noticed when the opposite happens
what used to be a half-gallon container is now just 3 pints... they
raised the bottom up into the container so the inside is less, but
the outside appears to be the old size... the correct weight is, of
course, on the package, but people rarely really notice that anyway...
the manufacturers loudly proclaim "smaller packaging, same amount!".
They figured out how to make the box smaller so as to get more per
case, or make the case smaller so more cases could be packed into the semi-trailer and cut their costs.
Probably could be made smaller in size (the font) as long as
everything else was correspondingly smaller with the new packaging.
Doesn't even have to have much else changed... people aren't
likely to notice that unless they are routinely comparing with
other products... and when they all change at once, one might not
pick up on it that quickly... ;)
...Consumer beware!
Absolutely... Sugar is now in 4-lb bags rather than 5-lb... cansAnd the latter has screwed up some recipes: "one small can of
that used to be 16 oz are now 15, or even 14.5oz...
Evaporated Milk" -- now doesn't seem to be that small can being sold.
As for the sugar, I remember that one. Bought the usual smaller-of-the-two sizes; may have noticed something was different but didn't pick up what. ...Know here it is stored in a canister set but
the set is unmarked and so sugar doesn't go in a canister designed for five pounds of sugar. I also generally don't use sugar (not saying I don't eat!) so I don't 'play' with the transfer, etc. It did take us a little while before we caught on to the size difference.
Wegmans is still doing the consumer reusables instead of the plastic
bags... and selling quite a few of them as well... They are easily
enough wiped down after each use, if one desires to be a little more
cautious... But yes, the other sanitizing and safety measures have got
to be costing them, and when they are out of things, they can't sell
them to get any profit there, either...
A hare surprised on Wegmans allowing the use of the consumer resuables
-- all purchases or just the ones packed by the consumer him or
herself. Hy-Vee is or at least was allowing the reusables if the
customer packed their own groceries.
Richard packs ours... has been right along... I'm not surprised thatHy-Vee might have decided on an all-or-none option to avoid confrontations: what is considered 'dirty', though probably more as they're trying to avoid contact when handing over someone else's bag
Wegmans is staying with the reusables, since they've been pushing them
for almost 15 years... When our state outlawed the use of plastic bags
in stores, Wegmans was ecstatic, as they'd tried to get rid of them
years ago, but customers weren't ready to do so.... There are still
plenty of new reusable bags available throughout the store and at the
checkouts, so one can have a fresh new one each week if wished for...
There is a sign now at the checkout that states that if the reusable
looks too dirty, the clerk can refuse to load it... but I've not seen
that having to be enforced.... :)
-- who knows what it has been in contact with? While I prefer using reusable bags for the current time it's better to go with the flow.
Oh, and Hy-Vee does allow reusable bags if one is packing their own,
so Richard being able to use might be the reason.
And that reminded me: the coffee-flavourd M&Ms were a restricted-time
offering. I was on eBay for something else (ended up not buying
anywhere) and someone was selling just-expired packs (expiry April
17th or something) and someone else had listed packs with an expiry the
end of May. Either one would have been OK but I wasn't sure of the
quantity: looked like a single pack at $9.99 - so ten dollars. Uh,
no. OK, so free shipping, but still seemed rather high for a little
packet. I'm not spending my stimulus check on candy!
Guess I was right... <G> No, I'd not spend that sort of money for
candy, either... And it appears that maybe some people did some
hoarding there, as well, hoping to make a killing.... sigh....
Maybe not a killing but just buying up end quantities. I didn't pay
attention to the vendor so don't know if it was Vinny's Odd Lots or
what.
Even if it was just buying up end quantities, that's an exorbitantI thought so, so it was a no. Did try to make sure I wasn't
price for a package of M&Ms.... :)
misreading -- weight was about right for a single package, definately
not a box.
For sure a rip-off... ;)
Yes -- as for swapping the CPU Heat Sink not like I haven't done
before -- heat sink part is fine but the fan froze -- just never had
swapped in a totally different - in this case monster - heat sink. And
was suckered in by the original one being "AMD approved" -- well, that
means it should be right and do the job, right?
One would have thought.... but maybe it was approved for some other
job....? <G>
Apparently it's job was to be cooling a much lighter capacity
processor!
And now you know... <G>Ah! I neglected to to check _which_ one it was approved for!!
(Actually I had and my processor was listed.)
Maybe they were being overly optimistic on your processor...?
As for the cameras, got that working. No idea why the real-time
failure with the original software, and appears for whatever reason the
new/updated software either isn't an energy efficient or because it
does more and so the processor does more work ==> heat and current
draw. Ended up putting in a metal case with extensions inside which
contact the CPU, etc., and so draw the heat of better than the original
heat sinks. (The metal case is warm to the touch!). That seems to
have been the problem.
Making it work harder and thus generating more heat, does seem to be a
possibility, even in my limited area of knowledge here... :) Finding
a way to dissipate that heat makes sense, too...
Yes, those chips just don't like to be too warm! Didn't quite make
sense why the original hardware wasn't liking the updated software
but.... I had the metal case in stock for another project, and did my
"buy two, they're cheap!" philosophy. Actually still have a spare:
did buy two but the original project changed.
Funny how that happens, sometimes... :) But handy to have for theIf cheap enough spares are handy!
project at hand.... :)
True. ;)
Dunno... one could run the experiment on a variety of variously
sunny days, and see if it makes much (or any) difference... ;)
Yes, see what happens on a fully sunny day which would be running
under ideal conditions and so find out what my maximum voltage would
be. Lesser sunny to overcast days would have less solar output and so
need to tweak the solar cell's positioning to make the best of what is
available.
All seems like workable situations and all... ;)
Yes, eventually back to that project. I haven't been down in the
basement for a while; some stuff up here in the Computer Room, some
Spring yard work.....
You'll get back to it in due time... :)
Yes: when it gets to 90 and 100 outside I'l be looking for an indoor
project!
And a cool basement will be very inviting... <G>True. I haven't been down there for anything but putting away
groceries or 'going shopping'.
The time will come... ;)
Likely any price increase would be hidden.... It might be the same
price per container, but the net weight or volume has decreased
slightly... thinking that the customer is less likely to notice that
sort of thing... ;)
Yes: keep the price and container the same but less contents.
Or tweak the container just a little so that it's not all that
noticeable... ;0
They've probably done that to us consumers, I'm sure! Not false
advertising as long as they keep the weight display consistent.
Ice cream containers are a case in point where they did do that...Right: more trained by size. Have noticed when the opposite happens
what used to be a half-gallon container is now just 3 pints... they
raised the bottom up into the container so the inside is less, but
the outside appears to be the old size... the correct weight is, of
course, on the package, but people rarely really notice that anyway...
the manufacturers loudly proclaim "smaller packaging, same amount!".
They figured out how to make the box smaller so as to get more per
case, or make the case smaller so more cases could be packed into the semi-trailer and cut their costs.
Or get more boxes onto the shelf at the grocery store... ;)
Probably could be made smaller in size (the font) as long as
everything else was correspondingly smaller with the new packaging.
Doesn't even have to have much else changed... people aren't
likely to notice that unless they are routinely comparing with
other products... and when they all change at once, one might not
pick up on it that quickly... ;)
...Consumer beware!
Absolutely... Sugar is now in 4-lb bags rather than 5-lb... cansAnd the latter has screwed up some recipes: "one small can of
that used to be 16 oz are now 15, or even 14.5oz...
Evaporated Milk" -- now doesn't seem to be that small can being sold.
Or the small can used to be 8 oz and now is only 6.5... but the
other ingredients might have likewise shrunk, and so the
proportion still not too out of line... <G>
As for the sugar, I remember that one. Bought the usual smaller-of-the-two sizes; may have noticed something was different but didn't pick up what. ...Know here it is stored in a canister set but
the set is unmarked and so sugar doesn't go in a canister designed for five pounds of sugar. I also generally don't use sugar (not saying I don't eat!) so I don't 'play' with the transfer, etc. It did take us a little while before we caught on to the size difference.
We use sugar very rarely... so rarely, in fact, that I still have
more than half a TW container into which I put a 5lb bag of sugar
decades ago (perfect fit, back then)... ;) I noticed the sugar
because the size change had been discussed by others in the
Cooking Echo... ;)
Hy-Vee might have decided on an all-or-none option to avoid confrontations: what is considered 'dirty', though probably more as they're trying to avoid contact when handing over someone else's bag
-- who knows what it has been in contact with? While I prefer using reusable bags for the current time it's better to go with the flow.
Oh, and Hy-Vee does allow reusable bags if one is packing their own,
so Richard being able to use might be the reason.
Wegmans still has paper bags available (5 cents each, the
reusables are 99 cents), but no plastic ones... And I've seen
plenty of cashiers packing other people's groceries into their brought-back reusables... :)
And that reminded me: the coffee-flavourd M&Ms were a restricted-time
offering. I was on eBay for something else (ended up not buying
anywhere) and someone was selling just-expired packs (expiry April
17th or something) and someone else had listed packs with an expiry the
end of May. Either one would have been OK but I wasn't sure of the
quantity: looked like a single pack at $9.99 - so ten dollars. Uh,
no. OK, so free shipping, but still seemed rather high for a little
packet. I'm not spending my stimulus check on candy!
Guess I was right... <G> No, I'd not spend that sort of money for
candy, either... And it appears that maybe some people did some
hoarding there, as well, hoping to make a killing.... sigh....
Maybe not a killing but just buying up end quantities. I didn't pay
attention to the vendor so don't know if it was Vinny's Odd Lots or
what.
Even if it was just buying up end quantities, that's an exorbitantI thought so, so it was a no. Did try to make sure I wasn't
price for a package of M&Ms.... :)
misreading -- weight was about right for a single package, definately
not a box.
For sure a rip-off... ;)
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