• Resend Re: virus stuff was: Solar T

    From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Fri Jun 12 15:56:12 2020
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    Original Date: 02 Jun 20 12:08:36
    Subj: Re: virus stuff was: Solar T

    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 19-May-2020 11:10 <=-

    Cures for the coronavirus... threats of infecting you if you don't send
    them money.... Helping you get your stimulus check if you just send
    them... (actually, I've heard that those really are popping up now...)
    Wouldn't surprise me! Here the spam telephone calls are in the down
    phase -- seemed even prior to the coronavirus there were constantly
    ringing periods and rather quiet periods.
    True... last few days the spam/scam calls have all been the credit
    card variants.... or hangups....
    Pretty much the same here.

    And lately, a lot of medicare scam-type calls... with a little spate in
    between of auto insurance and extended warranty calls...

    The problem currently is we have to monitor the calls as we're
    expecting a call from the person overseeing the hail damage project
    here and with COVID-19 they're primarily working from home using
    their cell phones. And if they've moved around some their cell
    number could be from anywhere.

    Seems a lot of people that do use their cell phones for business have
    made the effort to have their name come up on the ID, which is handy and reassuring... ;)

    We did verify they're aware of that little problem and they do leave messages, either for pickup or so the client can call back.

    That works nicely, too....

    Same for e-mails, though most are getting shuttled to the Junk Mail
    folders and category (Thunderbird will allow a small part of the
    message to go through and question if it should be tagged as junk).
    I very rarely get spam emails... apparently they don't make it
    through my ISP....
    My spam e-mail reception from my "Q" account (the former Qwest phone company, now owned by CenturyLink) goes from tons then slowly
    decreased to almost nothing and nothing. It'll then stay at the acceptable dribble level for months, then suddenly shoot up and repeat
    the cycle. Almost like they put in a new filter which has to be
    trained.

    Maybe... or just a system upgrade that the filter has to get used to...

    That's a possibility too -- probably a probability. Was scanning
    through an article indicating random 'correct' local numbers coming up
    on Caller ID are due to the spammers buying pre-paid phone cards.
    Apparently somehow triggers a valid number to display. The whole
    getting-around-the-computers is interesting and baffling!
    As I understand it, it's a function of doing calls with VoIP... they
    can give themself any number they wish....
    Ah, OK. And apparently they change their number constantly to make it
    more difficult to trace.
    Precisely... also to make it seem as though your neighbor is
    calling... :)
    Right, which tend to make one a hare more off-guard while one racks
    their brain on who the voice belongs to.

    Unless one is wise to the ploy and only answers the ones that are
    totally recognized... and otherwise presumes that it's likely to be
    bogus... Particularly on my cell phone, if it comes up with the same
    area code and exchange, I discount it to being spam/scam... I know no
    one else that shares that with me... :) If it turned out to be valid,
    they'd leave a message hopefully (and the scammers that do, are
    immediately obvious as such)....

    Yes, good to be reminded it is normal to be confused, annoyed,
    overwhelmed, etc. It is not the normal we're used to. It was a sudden
    change. And if I may say so Americans are not used to being told what
    to do: stay home! Wear a mask! Don't touch! IMO there are times for
    freedom and there are times to strictly follow the government rules.
    (There isn't much freedom in a box six feet underground.)
    True... As long as the restrictions are only for a limited time and
    for a recognizable reason... Hopefully the normal we were used to will
    return again... :)
    I'm thinking a revised normal (a.k.a. the new normal), at least in the
    near future. One group of people will be maintaining and therefore
    requiring social distancing, not touching/cleaning surfaces, and the
    like
    There's always been some degree of that among some people... it's just
    been more of a minority thing....
    Yes; plus everyone is more aware of the, for example, social
    distancing detail. Thinking the accidental bumping into a stranger
    while walking down a sidewalk. Before: "watch where you're going!".
    Now: "you trying to kill me?!". ...Before, go to a restaurant and waterspots on the silverware was sort of a lightly raised eyebrow and
    wipe with the napkin. Now... ??

    I supposed there could be heightened awareness at the moment... I tend
    more to a more laissez faire attitude anyway, and expect that as things
    run their course I'll just drop back to how I was.... Others might not,
    I suppose... :)

    - so to use restaurants as an example greater space between
    tables, one-use menus, wrapped silverware and napkins. On the end is
    the group who will crowd together and not worry about single use as
    long as assumed cleaned for them (menu in a plastic protector and wiped
    down). Right now I'm more with the first group but reusing cleaned
    items isn't out of the question.
    Even with the current situation, Taste of Japan is still using the
    same regular menus, plastic encased... disposable napkins and
    chopsticks same as always... The only other place we've been, Nam
    Vang, is also using their same menus (theirs are plastic-coated)...
    Most restaurants we go to are pretty meticulous about cleanliness
    anyway, just on general principles (and health code standards)... ;)
    For a while, restaurants will be forced to operated at reduced
    capacity to allow for more distancing, but I don't expect that to
    stay the case forever... and a lot of places don't lack the tables
    anyway.... :)
    Yes, plastic-wrapped menus have been around for ages, though I've seen some which shouldn't have been! Now, a tiny rip and it will be
    disposed of. Cleanliness will be under a microscope; always was
    supposed to be clean but sometimes things slipped by. As for capacity, right now the need to keep separation because of the 6' rule -
    eventually will be relaxed, though I wonder if the customers will like being so close to the next party again? I'm thinking there will be a preference for separation but now for privacy: not overhearing the next table or booth, and I certainly wouldn't miss the kid on next booth jumping up and down!

    Yeah, to avoid that, I do prefer the outside seat on the last booth so
    as not to be sharing that inner divider... ;)

    Just as well to go over it with your advisors... ;)
    Right: they know, or at least are much better informed than I am. And
    dealing with Iowa may be one thing, dealing with Iowa and New
    Hampshire (where my Mother lives) another. ...Good thing we got rid of
    the land in Slovakia and just have to deal with small stuff in Austria!
    Indeed...! Dealing with international stuff is its own hassle... My
    parents had an account in a UK bank that we had to go through hoops to
    liquidate into the estate... ;)
    I'm thinking my inheritance from my Aunt won't be too bad as it is a
    set dollar (well, Euro) amount. My Mother is the one to deal with the
    property distributions, though I'll be involved indirectly. Semi-
    decided the items will be bought out by the relatives other there and
    just transfer money.
    Money is probably easiest to transfer... :) But some items might have
    family significance... :) You'll just be the recipient of those,
    though, and your aunt's executor will be the one with the headaches
    (if any) of distributing the items or turning into money... :)
    Possibly. European (or at least Austrian and Slovakian) lawyers seem
    to be a lot more laid back than American. When the land was
    transferred to the Slovakian part of the family my Mother (and
    Father's) lawyer drew up some multi-page contract, signed, and
    notarized. Gets over there, those lawyers said all that was needed was
    a paper saying she (my Mother) agreed to giving the land. Essentially
    a paragraph, maybe two.

    Probably better to have done more than required than to find out that
    you hadn't done enough. though... ;) The last remaining hurdle for us
    to close out my mother's probate is to get the final report to my sister
    in England and then a signed and notarized (by a US notary at the
    embassy in London) receipt and release form back from her.... we have
    them for everyone else... and then take those with a final report back
    to the court... Covid restricting travel put a crimp into our planned schedule... but I'm sure the court will understand... :)

    True! The local TV stations are putting up ads for what is open and
    how to contact. The station I usually watch for news has maybe a
    30-second spot with mini-ads of random lengths: some are cell phone
    videos of a bakery "we're open" and a quick contact info; other
    <snip>
    I suppose it could actually be considered a public service, to let
    the public know what is available now, and as things open up... :)
    I've been hearing regular advertisers tailoring their ads to let
    people know to what extent they are able to be open (take-out,
    curbside retail, etc) and similar in the sponsor spiels on public
    radio... ;)
    Yes, might be considered as in the Public Service Announcement arena,
    and a bit of a trickle-down effect: I see/hear Matilda's Millet
    Muffins is open for curbside, hey: I wonder if Barbara's Bran Bagels is open still too?!

    Of course one can always just drive by one's favorite spots and check
    out the progress... ;) We see a lot of signs out front saying "Open for Takeout", often with a phone number... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to Nancy Backus on Sat Jun 13 11:16:00 2020
    Nancy,

    And lately, a lot of medicare scam-type calls... with a little spate in between of auto insurance and extended warranty calls...

    I'm getting a ton of those on the cellphones. I've even gotten scam calls threatening to cut off my Social Security because of "incorrect info". I
    noted the number, and went to the Social Security Website to report the
    fraud. At least I have an app in place to block the scam number, and report
    it to a database.

    Seems a lot of people that do use their cell phones for business have
    made the effort to have their name come up on the ID, which is handy
    and reassuring... ;)

    If I can't identify the caller, I let voice mail take it. On my line, I
    make note about the BBS, ham radio, or square dancing (my 3 hobbies)...and some have thought they dialed the wrong number. <G>

    Unless one is wise to the ploy and only answers the ones that are
    totally recognized... and otherwise presumes that it's likely to be bogus... Particularly on my cell phone, if it comes up with the same
    area code and exchange, I discount it to being spam/scam... I know no
    one else that shares that with me... :) If it turned out to be valid, they'd leave a message hopefully (and the scammers that do, are immediately obvious as such)....

    It's amazing all the schemes scammers are using...and sadly, many folks
    are falling for it. If it sounds to good to be true, it likely is. I have
    a bulletin on the BBS about "Fraud -- You Lose".

    I supposed there could be heightened awareness at the moment... I tend more to a more laissez faire attitude anyway, and expect that as things run their course I'll just drop back to how I was.... Others might not,
    I suppose... :)

    An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure...but in so many cases, it has become extreme overkill, IMO.

    Yeah, to avoid that, I do prefer the outside seat on the last booth so
    as not to be sharing that inner divider... ;)

    Plus, if you have to make a bathroom run, you can just "get up and go". :P

    Daryl

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Sat Jun 13 09:42:00 2020
    Subject: Resend Re: virus stuff was: Solar T



    Hi Nancy!

    This starts the second set of 5, resending from June 2...
    Original Date: 02 Jun 20 12:08:36
    Subj: Re: virus stuff was: Solar T



    Cures for the coronavirus... threats of infecting you if you don't send
    them money.... Helping you get your stimulus check if you just send
    them... (actually, I've heard that those really are popping up now...)
    Wouldn't surprise me! Here the spam telephone calls are in the down
    phase -- seemed even prior to the coronavirus there were constantly
    ringing periods and rather quiet periods.
    True... last few days the spam/scam calls have all been the credit
    card variants.... or hangups....
    Pretty much the same here.
    And lately, a lot of medicare scam-type calls... with a little
    spate in between of auto insurance and extended warranty calls...

    We didn't get too many of those, and lately they have been swapped out
    with the whichever is th one with the one guy calling from all over the country. If we don't recognize the number let it go to the answering
    machine, check later: "Hi! This --" "Him again! <delete button>".


    The problem currently is we have to monitor the calls as we're
    expecting a call from the person overseeing the hail damage project
    here and with COVID-19 they're primarily working from home using
    their cell phones. And if they've moved around some their cell
    number could be from anywhere.
    Seems a lot of people that do use their cell phones for business
    have made the effort to have their name come up on the ID, which
    is handy and reassuring... ;)

    With the roof contact people about a third have their name come up.
    Sort of speaking of cell phone names, one carrier doing it here but not
    quite right: if a group -- the four lines for $25 each offer -- the name
    of the account holder comes up. So now when Autumn's mother calls the
    name of her sister appears! When Autumn's father calls his sister-in-
    law's name comes up!


    We did verify they're aware of that little problem and they do leave messages, either for pickup or so the client can call back.
    That works nicely, too....

    Yes -- work with the problem every including themselves is having.


    Same for e-mails, though most are getting shuttled to the Junk Mail
    folders and category (Thunderbird will allow a small part of the
    message to go through and question if it should be tagged as junk).
    I very rarely get spam emails... apparently they don't make it
    through my ISP....
    My spam e-mail reception from my "Q" account (the former Qwest phone company, now owned by CenturyLink) goes from tons then slowly
    decreased to almost nothing and nothing. It'll then stay at the acceptable dribble level for months, then suddenly shoot up and repeat
    the cycle. Almost like they put in a new filter which has to be
    trained.
    Maybe... or just a system upgrade that the filter has to get used
    to...

    Apparently the latter as the Junk Mail folder in that account is almost
    always empty, and I don't get too many junk mails sneaking through. So between the mail server's filter and the one I have here not bad.


    That's a possibility too -- probably a probability. Was scanning
    through an article indicating random 'correct' local numbers coming up
    on Caller ID are due to the spammers buying pre-paid phone cards.
    Apparently somehow triggers a valid number to display. The whole
    getting-around-the-computers is interesting and baffling!
    As I understand it, it's a function of doing calls with VoIP... they
    can give themself any number they wish....
    Ah, OK. And apparently they change their number constantly to make it
    more difficult to trace.
    Precisely... also to make it seem as though your neighbor is
    calling... :)
    Right, which tend to make one a hare more off-guard while one racks
    their brain on who the voice belongs to.
    Unless one is wise to the ploy and only answers the ones that are
    totally recognized... and otherwise presumes that it's likely to
    be bogus... Particularly on my cell phone, if it comes up with
    the same area code and exchange, I discount it to being
    spam/scam... I know no one else that shares that with me... :)
    If it turned out to be valid, they'd leave a message hopefully
    (and the scammers that do, are immediately obvious as such)....

    That little trick wouldn't work here: 332- 381- 388- 355- 359- and that's
    the original of the Davenport and Bettendorf exchanges from years ago.
    When I was at the apartment complex I had a 359- and a friend downstairs
    had 355-.


    Yes, good to be reminded it is normal to be confused, annoyed,
    overwhelmed, etc. It is not the normal we're used to. It was a sudden
    change. And if I may say so Americans are not used to being told what
    to do: stay home! Wear a mask! Don't touch! IMO there are times for
    freedom and there are times to strictly follow the government rules.
    (There isn't much freedom in a box six feet underground.)
    True... As long as the restrictions are only for a limited time and
    for a recognizable reason... Hopefully the normal we were used to will
    return again... :)
    I'm thinking a revised normal (a.k.a. the new normal), at least in the
    near future. One group of people will be maintaining and therefore
    requiring social distancing, not touching/cleaning surfaces, and the
    like
    There's always been some degree of that among some people... it's just
    been more of a minority thing....
    Yes; plus everyone is more aware of the, for example, social
    distancing detail. Thinking the accidental bumping into a stranger
    while walking down a sidewalk. Before: "watch where you're going!".
    Now: "you trying to kill me?!". ...Before, go to a restaurant and waterspots on the silverware was sort of a lightly raised eyebrow and
    wipe with the napkin. Now... ??
    I supposed there could be heightened awareness at the moment... I
    tend more to a more laissez faire attitude anyway, and expect
    that as things run their course I'll just drop back to how I
    was.... Others might not, I suppose... :)

    I and probably most people will 'drop back' as things return to normal,
    or the revised normal. Right now 'hightened awareness' and everything
    is suspect. I picked up my presciption the other day -- the pharmacy
    tech had a little tickle in her throat so naturally coughed; I jokingly
    went "gaaa!" and theatrically did a shielding of myself -- brought a
    laugh to her and the other staff -- she said she needed that relief.



    Just as well to go over it with your advisors... ;)
    Right: they know, or at least are much better informed than I am. And
    dealing with Iowa may be one thing, dealing with Iowa and New
    Hampshire (where my Mother lives) another. ...Good thing we got rid of
    the land in Slovakia and just have to deal with small stuff in Austria!
    Indeed...! Dealing with international stuff is its own hassle... My
    parents had an account in a UK bank that we had to go through hoops to
    liquidate into the estate... ;)
    I'm thinking my inheritance from my Aunt won't be too bad as it is a
    set dollar (well, Euro) amount. My Mother is the one to deal with the
    property distributions, though I'll be involved indirectly. Semi-
    decided the items will be bought out by the relatives other there and
    just transfer money.
    Money is probably easiest to transfer... :) But some items might have
    family significance... :) You'll just be the recipient of those,
    though, and your aunt's executor will be the one with the headaches
    (if any) of distributing the items or turning into money... :)
    Possibly. European (or at least Austrian and Slovakian) lawyers seem
    to be a lot more laid back than American. When the land was
    transferred to the Slovakian part of the family my Mother (and
    Father's) lawyer drew up some multi-page contract, signed, and
    notarized. Gets over there, those lawyers said all that was needed was
    a paper saying she (my Mother) agreed to giving the land. Essentially
    a paragraph, maybe two.
    Probably better to have done more than required than to find out
    that you hadn't done enough. though... ;) The last remaining
    hurdle for us to close out my mother's probate is to get the
    final report to my sister in England and then a signed and
    notarized (by a US notary at the embassy in London) receipt and
    release form back from her.... we have them for everyone else...
    and then take those with a final report back to the court...
    Covid restricting travel put a crimp into our planned schedule...
    but I'm sure the court will understand... :)

    I'd probably contact the court, directly or indirectly, to keep aware of difficulties and delays. Might be international participants isn't as
    common as we think.



    True! The local TV stations are putting up ads for what is open and
    how to contact. The station I usually watch for news has maybe a
    30-second spot with mini-ads of random lengths: some are cell phone
    videos of a bakery "we're open" and a quick contact info; other
    <snip>
    I suppose it could actually be considered a public service, to let
    the public know what is available now, and as things open up... :)
    I've been hearing regular advertisers tailoring their ads to let
    people know to what extent they are able to be open (take-out,
    curbside retail, etc) and similar in the sponsor spiels on public
    radio... ;)
    Yes, might be considered as in the Public Service Announcement arena,
    and a bit of a trickle-down effect: I see/hear Matilda's Millet
    Muffins is open for curbside, hey: I wonder if Barbara's Bran Bagels is open still too?!
    Of course one can always just drive by one's favorite spots and
    check out the progress... ;) We see a lot of signs out front
    saying "Open for Takeout", often with a phone number... :)

    Yes, a lot of that type of signage here too - which makes sense. Back
    in the pre-COVID-19 days drive by earlier in the morning, don't see cars
    in the parking lot, you open? No won't see cars in the parking lot,
    COVID-19 regulations have closed a lot of places, don't know if
    partially opened. I' not sure what good the phone number does on the
    placard putt-putting by at 25 MPH -- suppose at least a reminded to look
    up the number when get home.



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