• Shingrix was: weather

    From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Thu Apr 16 08:45:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    Exactly... But we generally aren't up early enough to be there before
    they open, anyway.... <G>
    We tend to be on the 'early morning rising' schedule. My Mother used
    to be when she was working and then gradually moved over to the 'night
    owl schedule - I just have to remember not to call her too early in the
    morning; the one hour time zone difference does help prevent that!
    We've always had more 'night owl' tendencies here...
    My Mother used to be an 'early worm', getting up at 4:30 or maybe 5 -
    I've forgotten which. For whatever reason she's gradually switched to staying up later - probably due to watching TV movies -- and so
    needing to get up later in the morning for the necessary sleep.
    Doesn't really matter if early bird or night owl.
    Depends a lot on one's circadian rhythms... As long as one gets
    their necessary sleep, and can function during the waking
    hours... ;)

    Yes; I wonder how many people have adjusted their sleep schedules now
    they don't have to go to work? Working from home might allow for a more natural/personalized pattern.



    Oh, while I think of it: the new hospital-affiliate urgent care
    facility inside Hy-Vee is temporarily closed -- suppose the staff has
    been reassigned to the actual hospital facilities.
    There might also be concerns that it would make grocery shopping
    a little more risky....
    Possibly, though the Starbucks inside and right next door is still
    open - though appears the tables have been spread out.
    Our store put aside all their tables and chairs and roped the
    stacks off to comply with the no-sit-down-eat-in edict here for
    all restaurants and bars... only take out (and delivery) is
    allowed... Different places have different rules, though...

    I'll have to check when I go: here too most if not all restaurants are
    doing just carry-out, curbside delivery or delivery. (I can't think of
    one restaurant doing dine-in so probably all.) Last I recall the
    Starbucks at Hy-Vee had a customer chatting with the barista at the
    counter; I sort of vaguely recall the tables and chairs spread out on
    the floor but no one sitting, which lately has not been unusual.


    And didn't think of including it in an earlier message but the Iowa
    Governor is either also suggesting or mandating postponement of all
    non-urgent surgeries, etc. Would suppose it's a little hard to do
    surgery and keep the 6' social distancing thing. <jk> Plus (and a
    little more seriously) if opened up that's just another potential path
    for infection. Plus potentially occupies a bed which could be used for
    more urgent needs like the COVID-19.
    We've had that here, as well... mandated postponement of any "elective"
    surgeries.... And I think the primary reason is to free up beds for
    COVID-19 patients.... but also, there could be some of the not wanting
    to unnecessarily expose people to infection risk, whether by surgery
    or merely proximity within the hospital... When the hospitals are full
    of flu patients at peak, elective surgeries tend to be discouraged
    also...
    That I hadn't heard but does make sense to hold beds for potential flu patients. Maybe isn't as much of a problem locally as it is in your
    part of the country.
    Even here, one wouldn't likely know about it during flu season
    unles they or someone they knew was contemplating surgery... no
    widespread public announcements like we have now with the
    pandemic....

    Even then it seems is just a postponement/rescheduling and seems for
    common reasons, nothing to do with a local/regionalized sickness.


    Right. My dental checkup originally scheduled for yesterday had been
    rescheduled towards the end of April and we did note the possibility
    of it being re-rescheduled. ...Did notice there was a new sign: his
    son had joined the practice almost a year ago -- that should lead into
    a good ribbing to the son! My optometrist's office had closed down
    about the same time and and noted where other local eye doctors (as
    well as over the nation) have temporarily closed.
    Another medical specialty that involves close contact with the
    face... and the eyes are a key vector for the COVID virus to spread
    through.... The optician shops are all closed at the moment, too... I
    need to get new glasses with my new prescription which I got shortly
    before all this started happening... but it'll have to wait now....
    If really needed your eye doctor might be able to schedule an
    appointment -- mine has sent out e-mails indicating a doctor on duty
    can be contacted. I'm not recalling "for emergencies" but to me
    implied. Break frames or loose a contact: fine. Just need a regular
    exam: probably not.
    I had the regular exam back in February, but didn't immediately
    order my new glasses, which in retrospect was a bad choice... I'd
    been considering getting the new glasses at BJ's or the like
    instead of directly at the office....

    Hindsight being 20/20, which is even worse when referring to vision! My optomotrist's office had sent out a general e-mail stating they will
    close the offices effective whatever the date was, pick up glasses and contacts; would presume arrangements were made for those orders
    remaining. Main problem would be tweaking of the fitting.

    BTW my dental office called: my rescheduled appointment was next
    Wednesdy (April 22) and they will be closed I think through May 5th at
    the earliest. Could have rescheduled but she was sort of indicating
    probably would have to be postponed again so I opted for the we'll
    schedule when open for sure again -- she sounded relieved at the choice.


    things are dragging on
    longer than people originally thought they might....

    The news this morning indicated (professional) sporting events would not
    be with the fans present until probably 2021. I'm not into sports, occasionally watch -- no fans in the stands would be strange! Probably
    really strange for the players to be playing a competition game without
    fans: would seem like a practice.

    We watched _Who Wants to be a Millionaire_ the other night; it was
    recorded without an audience which seemed strange. Most of the time the
    TV viewer doesn't see the audience but does hear them; the show didn't
    have the audience's background noise -- breathing and movements are
    recorded. Was something like the silence of 9/11 when no jets, etc.,
    in the air. The crew was trying to make up for some of the silence by cheering, etc.


    Richard has been going out more than I do, as I think I mentioned
    before.... fewer reasons TO go out, with doctor offices closed,
    restaurants closed, any sort of gathering place closed.... etc....
    I'm mostly content to stay home unless there's a good reason to go
    out...
    Right: I'm the more stay-at-home now also: not all that into shopping
    just for browsing sake. And as you said, more and more places closing down, or limiting access.
    Exactly... fewer places to go on my regular paths....

    Pretty soon the highlight of my social life will be watching the
    mailman delivering the mail!


    ... Fencing: the sport that looks like two bee keepers dueling.
    I did a little fencing when I was in college... There is a lot of
    protective clothing one wears for the sport... ;)
    Even with the rounded tip of the practice saber (right term?) with a
    jab or slicing move it can still cut unprotected skin.
    Three different types of fencing swords... Foils (slender, with a
    rounded tip), Epees (more robust, and more like a sword in shape) and
    Sabers (much heavier)... The foils would probably only scratch at
    worst, though without a face mask, might poke out an eye... the
    others could do more damage...
    Those names do ring a bell. I haven't seen a fencing match in ages
    but do recall admiring the artform.
    It's not a common sport.... you see more sword dueling in movies than
    any sort of fencing as a sport.... ;) All I ever did was the foil
    fencing.... ;) Couldn't do it now, though, I'm sure.... :)
    Fencing might become more popular: you're enclosed in a protective
    suit and generally stay a few feet away from the other person!!
    But with gyms closed down, there's no place to practice, or for
    that matter, to run meets.... ;)

    Fence in a scuba suit!!



    As for the deck/stair repair here, I could probably do the step easy enough: just get the proper width and cut to length. OK, and screw
    back in place! The replacement of the board on the deck itself should
    be about as easy, though when looking the other day appears may be a
    few boards rather than just one. Will have to take a better look;
    might be better not to fiddle with it temporarily and just have the
    whole job done as originally planned last year.
    Depending on how much of a hazard the bad boards are at this
    time... if not too much of one, could wait for the more complete
    job later... :)

    The patch job is something doable. Will consider if for whatever reason
    can't get the enter thing professionally replaced this Spring/early
    Summer.


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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/1 to Barry Martin on Sun Apr 26 23:33:30 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 16-Apr-2020 08:45 <=-

    We've always had more 'night owl' tendencies here...
    My Mother used to be an 'early worm', getting up at 4:30 or maybe 5 -
    I've forgotten which. For whatever reason she's gradually switched to
    staying up later - probably due to watching TV movies -- and so
    needing to get up later in the morning for the necessary sleep.
    Doesn't really matter if early bird or night owl.
    Depends a lot on one's circadian rhythms... As long as one gets their
    necessary sleep, and can function during the waking hours... ;)
    Yes; I wonder how many people have adjusted their sleep schedules now
    they don't have to go to work? Working from home might allow for a
    more natural/personalized pattern.

    Possible... unless they still have to keep to a fairly rigid schedule...
    Just don't have the commute there and back... ;)

    Possibly, though the Starbucks inside and right next door is still
    open - though appears the tables have been spread out.
    Our store put aside all their tables and chairs and roped the stacks
    off to comply with the no-sit-down-eat-in edict here for all
    restaurants and bars... only take out (and delivery) is allowed...
    Different places have different rules, though...
    I'll have to check when I go: here too most if not all restaurants are doing just carry-out, curbside delivery or delivery. (I can't think
    of one restaurant doing dine-in so probably all.) Last I recall the Starbucks at Hy-Vee had a customer chatting with the barista at the counter; I sort of vaguely recall the tables and chairs spread out on
    the floor but no one sitting, which lately has not been unusual.

    Maybe that was just before everything got shut down...

    We've had that here, as well... mandated postponement of any "elective"
    surgeries.... And I think the primary reason is to free up beds for
    COVID-19 patients.... but also, there could be some of the not wanting
    to unnecessarily expose people to infection risk, whether by surgery
    or merely proximity within the hospital... When the hospitals are full
    of flu patients at peak, elective surgeries tend to be discouraged
    also...
    That I hadn't heard but does make sense to hold beds for potential flu
    patients. Maybe isn't as much of a problem locally as it is in your
    part of the country.
    Even here, one wouldn't likely know about it during flu season unless
    they or someone they knew was contemplating surgery... no widespread
    public announcements like we have now with the pandemic....
    Even then it seems is just a postponement/rescheduling and seems for common reasons, nothing to do with a local/regionalized sickness.

    Sometimes there's still the ability to schedule surgeries, even during
    flu season... "elective" surgeries can still be very necessary, just not
    an emergency...

    If really needed your eye doctor might be able to schedule an
    appointment -- mine has sent out e-mails indicating a doctor on duty
    can be contacted. I'm not recalling "for emergencies" but to me
    implied. Break frames or loose a contact: fine. Just need a regular
    exam: probably not.
    I had the regular exam back in February, but didn't immediately order
    my new glasses, which in retrospect was a bad choice... I'd been
    considering getting the new glasses at BJ's or the like instead of
    directly at the office....
    Hindsight being 20/20, which is even worse when referring to vision!

    Indeed.

    BTW my dental office called: my rescheduled appointment was next
    Wednesday (April 22) and they will be closed I think through May 5th at the earliest. Could have rescheduled but she was sort of indicating probably would have to be postponed again so I opted for the we'll schedule when open for sure again -- she sounded relieved at the
    choice.

    My dentist's office hasn't called yet to reschedule my hygenist
    appointment... I suspect that it won't be, since I do have another one
    already scheduled for 3 months out from the cancelled one.... I was
    scheduled for a follow-up visit to the endodontist tomorrow... they
    called Friday and moved it out 5 weeks, hoping that they'll be able to
    keep that... :)

    things are dragging on longer than people originally thought they
    might....
    The news this morning indicated (professional) sporting events would
    not be with the fans present until probably 2021. I'm not into sports, occasionally watch -- no fans in the stands would be strange!
    Probably really strange for the players to be playing a competition
    game without fans: would seem like a practice.

    I don't even watch sports... but I suppose it might seem strange... I'd
    think, though, that if one was playing a different team (not just ones
    own teammates in scrimmage) it still would feel like a real game and not
    just practice... Just wouldn't have the distraction of the fans there...

    We watched _Who Wants to be a Millionaire_ the other night; it was recorded without an audience which seemed strange. Most of the time
    the TV viewer doesn't see the audience but does hear them; the show
    didn't have the audience's background noise -- breathing and movements
    are recorded. Was something like the silence of 9/11 when no jets,
    etc., in the air. The crew was trying to make up for some of the
    silence by cheering, etc.

    They might have done better with having a "skeleton crew" audience...
    just a few people scattered throughout the room to make sounds... ;)
    Our church has been livestreaming the morning service ever since things
    have been shut down... the pastor is in the pulpit, the accompanist at
    the piano (or organ when it was my turn), Tony is running the video
    equipment and Richard the regular sound (fed to the video stream)... and
    then there's a few others there to be the congregation (for singing and responses)... I've been coming with Richard to be part of that, a couple
    of the elders come and count the offering afterwards (sent in by mail or paypal), and today the accompanist's husband came with her, and one
    other from the elders also came... so a total of 9... Usually it would
    be more like 75-85 or more there... but at least it does make for a less
    dead stream of the real service... :)

    Richard has been going out more than I do, as I think I mentioned
    before.... fewer reasons TO go out, with doctor offices closed,
    restaurants closed, any sort of gathering place closed.... etc....
    I'm mostly content to stay home unless there's a good reason to go
    out...
    Right: I'm the more stay-at-home now also: not all that into shopping
    just for browsing sake. And as you said, more and more places closing
    down, or limiting access.
    Exactly... fewer places to go on my regular paths....
    Pretty soon the highlight of my social life will be watching the
    mailman delivering the mail!

    I'm not even downstairs to watch that happening... ;)

    Those names do ring a bell. I haven't seen a fencing match in ages
    but do recall admiring the artform.
    It's not a common sport.... you see more sword dueling in movies than
    any sort of fencing as a sport.... ;) All I ever did was the foil
    fencing.... ;) Couldn't do it now, though, I'm sure.... :)
    Fencing might become more popular: you're enclosed in a protective
    suit and generally stay a few feet away from the other person!!
    But with gyms closed down, there's no place to practice, or for that
    matter, to run meets.... ;)
    Fence in a scuba suit!!

    And have the meets in open fields....? ;) Nah, I don't think so...

    As for the deck/stair repair here, I could probably do the step easy
    enough: just get the proper width and cut to length. OK, and screw
    back in place! The replacement of the board on the deck itself should
    be about as easy, though when looking the other day appears may be a
    few boards rather than just one. Will have to take a better look;
    might be better not to fiddle with it temporarily and just have the
    whole job done as originally planned last year.
    Depending on how much of a hazard the bad boards are at this time... if
    not too much of one, could wait for the more complete job later... :)
    The patch job is something doable. Will consider if for whatever
    reason can't get the enter thing professionally replaced this
    Spring/early Summer.

    Here in NYS, at least, contractors are allowed to do that sort of work,
    even with only essential business allowed... :)

    ttyl neb

    ... Apartment building blew up. Roomers were flying!SEEN-BY: 1/1 452
  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/1 to Barry Martin on Sun Apr 26 23:33:30 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 16-Apr-2020 08:45 <=-

    We've always had more 'night owl' tendencies here...
    My Mother used to be an 'early worm', getting up at 4:30 or maybe 5 -
    I've forgotten which. For whatever reason she's gradually switched to
    staying up later - probably due to watching TV movies -- and so
    needing to get up later in the morning for the necessary sleep.
    Doesn't really matter if early bird or night owl.
    Depends a lot on one's circadian rhythms... As long as one gets their
    necessary sleep, and can function during the waking hours... ;)
    Yes; I wonder how many people have adjusted their sleep schedules now
    they don't have to go to work? Working from home might allow for a
    more natural/personalized pattern.

    Possible... unless they still have to keep to a fairly rigid schedule...
    Just don't have the commute there and back... ;)

    Possibly, though the Starbucks inside and right next door is still
    open - though appears the tables have been spread out.
    Our store put aside all their tables and chairs and roped the stacks
    off to comply with the no-sit-down-eat-in edict here for all
    restaurants and bars... only take out (and delivery) is allowed...
    Different places have different rules, though...
    I'll have to check when I go: here too most if not all restaurants are doing just carry-out, curbside delivery or delivery. (I can't think
    of one restaurant doing dine-in so probably all.) Last I recall the Starbucks at Hy-Vee had a customer chatting with the barista at the counter; I sort of vaguely recall the tables and chairs spread out on
    the floor but no one sitting, which lately has not been unusual.

    Maybe that was just before everything got shut down...

    We've had that here, as well... mandated postponement of any "elective"
    surgeries.... And I think the primary reason is to free up beds for
    COVID-19 patients.... but also, there could be some of the not wanting
    to unnecessarily expose people to infection risk, whether by surgery
    or merely proximity within the hospital... When the hospitals are full
    of flu patients at peak, elective surgeries tend to be discouraged
    also...
    That I hadn't heard but does make sense to hold beds for potential flu
    patients. Maybe isn't as much of a problem locally as it is in your
    part of the country.
    Even here, one wouldn't likely know about it during flu season unless
    they or someone they knew was contemplating surgery... no widespread
    public announcements like we have now with the pandemic....
    Even then it seems is just a postponement/rescheduling and seems for common reasons, nothing to do with a local/regionalized sickness.

    Sometimes there's still the ability to schedule surgeries, even during
    flu season... "elective" surgeries can still be very necessary, just not
    an emergency...

    If really needed your eye doctor might be able to schedule an
    appointment -- mine has sent out e-mails indicating a doctor on duty
    can be contacted. I'm not recalling "for emergencies" but to me
    implied. Break frames or loose a contact: fine. Just need a regular
    exam: probably not.
    I had the regular exam back in February, but didn't immediately order
    my new glasses, which in retrospect was a bad choice... I'd been
    considering getting the new glasses at BJ's or the like instead of
    directly at the office....
    Hindsight being 20/20, which is even worse when referring to vision!

    Indeed.

    BTW my dental office called: my rescheduled appointment was next
    Wednesday (April 22) and they will be closed I think through May 5th at the earliest. Could have rescheduled but she was sort of indicating probably would have to be postponed again so I opted for the we'll schedule when open for sure again -- she sounded relieved at the
    choice.

    My dentist's office hasn't called yet to reschedule my hygenist
    appointment... I suspect that it won't be, since I do have another one
    already scheduled for 3 months out from the cancelled one.... I was
    scheduled for a follow-up visit to the endodontist tomorrow... they
    called Friday and moved it out 5 weeks, hoping that they'll be able to
    keep that... :)

    things are dragging on longer than people originally thought they
    might....
    The news this morning indicated (professional) sporting events would
    not be with the fans present until probably 2021. I'm not into sports, occasionally watch -- no fans in the stands would be strange!
    Probably really strange for the players to be playing a competition
    game without fans: would seem like a practice.

    I don't even watch sports... but I suppose it might seem strange... I'd
    think, though, that if one was playing a different team (not just ones
    own teammates in scrimmage) it still would feel like a real game and not
    just practice... Just wouldn't have the distraction of the fans there...

    We watched _Who Wants to be a Millionaire_ the other night; it was recorded without an audience which seemed strange. Most of the time
    the TV viewer doesn't see the audience but does hear them; the show
    didn't have the audience's background noise -- breathing and movements
    are recorded. Was something like the silence of 9/11 when no jets,
    etc., in the air. The crew was trying to make up for some of the
    silence by cheering, etc.

    They might have done better with having a "skeleton crew" audience...
    just a few people scattered throughout the room to make sounds... ;)
    Our church has been livestreaming the morning service ever since things
    have been shut down... the pastor is in the pulpit, the accompanist at
    the piano (or organ when it was my turn), Tony is running the video
    equipment and Richard the regular sound (fed to the video stream)... and
    then there's a few others there to be the congregation (for singing and responses)... I've been coming with Richard to be part of that, a couple
    of the elders come and count the offering afterwards (sent in by mail or paypal), and today the accompanist's husband came with her, and one
    other from the elders also came... so a total of 9... Usually it would
    be more like 75-85 or more there... but at least it does make for a less
    dead stream of the real service... :)

    Richard has been going out more than I do, as I think I mentioned
    before.... fewer reasons TO go out, with doctor offices closed,
    restaurants closed, any sort of gathering place closed.... etc....
    I'm mostly content to stay home unless there's a good reason to go
    out...
    Right: I'm the more stay-at-home now also: not all that into shopping
    just for browsing sake. And as you said, more and more places closing
    down, or limiting access.
    Exactly... fewer places to go on my regular paths....
    Pretty soon the highlight of my social life will be watching the
    mailman delivering the mail!

    I'm not even downstairs to watch that happening... ;)

    Those names do ring a bell. I haven't seen a fencing match in ages
    but do recall admiring the artform.
    It's not a common sport.... you see more sword dueling in movies than
    any sort of fencing as a sport.... ;) All I ever did was the foil
    fencing.... ;) Couldn't do it now, though, I'm sure.... :)
    Fencing might become more popular: you're enclosed in a protective
    suit and generally stay a few feet away from the other person!!
    But with gyms closed down, there's no place to practice, or for that
    matter, to run meets.... ;)
    Fence in a scuba suit!!

    And have the meets in open fields....? ;) Nah, I don't think so...

    As for the deck/stair repair here, I could probably do the step easy
    enough: just get the proper width and cut to length. OK, and screw
    back in place! The replacement of the board on the deck itself should
    be about as easy, though when looking the other day appears may be a
    few boards rather than just one. Will have to take a better look;
    might be better not to fiddle with it temporarily and just have the
    whole job done as originally planned last year.
    Depending on how much of a hazard the bad boards are at this time... if
    not too much of one, could wait for the more complete job later... :)
    The patch job is something doable. Will consider if for whatever
    reason can't get the enter thing professionally replaced this
    Spring/early Summer.

    Here in NYS, at least, contractors are allowed to do that sort of work,
    even with only essential business allowed... :)

    ttyl neb

    ... Apartment building blew up. Roomers were flying!SEEN-BY: 1/1 452
  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Tue Apr 28 10:19:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    We've always had more 'night owl' tendencies here...
    My Mother used to be an 'early worm', getting up at 4:30 or maybe 5 -
    I've forgotten which. For whatever reason she's gradually switched to
    staying up later - probably due to watching TV movies -- and so
    needing to get up later in the morning for the necessary sleep.
    Doesn't really matter if early bird or night owl.
    Depends a lot on one's circadian rhythms... As long as one gets their
    necessary sleep, and can function during the waking hours... ;)
    Yes; I wonder how many people have adjusted their sleep schedules now
    they don't have to go to work? Working from home might allow for a
    more natural/personalized pattern.
    Possible... unless they still have to keep to a fairly rigid
    schedule... Just don't have the commute there and back... ;)

    Like the local morning TV anchors -- they have to 'commute' to their
    home office-now-studio but still have to be ready to be on the air at
    4:30, so review the news, select the articles for presentation, who
    does, etc. And don't forget showering, dressing, makeup for the ladies.


    Possibly, though the Starbucks inside and right next door is still
    open - though appears the tables have been spread out.
    Our store put aside all their tables and chairs and roped the stacks
    off to comply with the no-sit-down-eat-in edict here for all
    restaurants and bars... only take out (and delivery) is allowed...
    Different places have different rules, though...
    I'll have to check when I go: here too most if not all restaurants are doing just carry-out, curbside delivery or delivery. (I can't think
    of one restaurant doing dine-in so probably all.) Last I recall the Starbucks at Hy-Vee had a customer chatting with the barista at the counter; I sort of vaguely recall the tables and chairs spread out on
    the floor but no one sitting, which lately has not been unusual.
    Maybe that was just before everything got shut down...

    Quite possible. That was around a month ago. In the interim the tables
    and chairs had been removed, the areas sort of made to look less empty
    by expanding the entry aisle a bit and lining with carts of clearance.

    Last week I didn't go: only two items in the ad I was semi-interested
    in; I'd guess almost half of the digital ad was summer entertainment:
    grills, furniture, and the like.


    We've had that here, as well... mandated postponement of any "elective"
    surgeries.... And I think the primary reason is to free up beds for
    COVID-19 patients.... but also, there could be some of the not wanting
    to unnecessarily expose people to infection risk, whether by surgery
    or merely proximity within the hospital... When the hospitals are full
    of flu patients at peak, elective surgeries tend to be discouraged
    also...
    That I hadn't heard but does make sense to hold beds for potential flu
    patients. Maybe isn't as much of a problem locally as it is in your
    part of the country.
    Even here, one wouldn't likely know about it during flu season unless
    they or someone they knew was contemplating surgery... no widespread
    public announcements like we have now with the pandemic....
    Even then it seems is just a postponement/rescheduling and seems for common reasons, nothing to do with a local/regionalized sickness.
    Sometimes there's still the ability to schedule surgeries, even
    during flu season... "elective" surgeries can still be very
    necessary, just not an emergency...

    True: I'm thinking kidney stones' lithotripsy. It may seem like an
    emergency at the time but probably classified more as elective. (Though
    I elect to have it now! <rs!>)


    If really needed your eye doctor might be able to schedule an
    appointment -- mine has sent out e-mails indicating a doctor on duty
    can be contacted. I'm not recalling "for emergencies" but to me
    implied. Break frames or loose a contact: fine. Just need a regular
    exam: probably not.
    I had the regular exam back in February, but didn't immediately order
    my new glasses, which in retrospect was a bad choice... I'd been
    considering getting the new glasses at BJ's or the like instead of
    directly at the office....
    Hindsight being 20/20, which is even worse when referring to vision!
    Indeed.

    According to the last e-mail I received my optometrist's office was anticipating re-opening May 5th. Their announcment was several days
    before the Governor announced partial re-openings in 77 of Iowa's 99
    counties -- we're not part of the 77. Don't know if this changed the
    planned re-opening date: didn't see anything in last night's e-mail but
    that would have been only about seven hours after the Governor's
    announcement.


    BTW my dental office called: my rescheduled appointment was next
    Wednesday (April 22) and they will be closed I think through May 5th at the earliest. Could have rescheduled but she was sort of indicating probably would have to be postponed again so I opted for the we'll schedule when open for sure again -- she sounded relieved at the
    choice.
    My dentist's office hasn't called yet to reschedule my hygenist appointment... I suspect that it won't be, since I do have
    another one already scheduled for 3 months out from the cancelled
    one.... I was scheduled for a follow-up visit to the endodontist tomorrow... they called Friday and moved it out 5 weeks, hoping
    that they'll be able to keep that... :)

    Hope so! In general all these delays are probably doing a number on
    overall planning. Instead of being relatively evenly spread throughout
    the year now all the Spring appointments are scooted over to Summer.
    Those six month checkups will be bunched in Winter.... Probably able to
    do some nine month checks....



    things are dragging on longer than people originally thought they
    might....
    The news this morning indicated (professional) sporting events would
    not be with the fans present until probably 2021. I'm not into sports, occasionally watch -- no fans in the stands would be strange!
    Probably really strange for the players to be playing a competition
    game without fans: would seem like a practice.
    I don't even watch sports... but I suppose it might seem
    strange... I'd think, though, that if one was playing a different
    team (not just ones own teammates in scrimmage) it still would
    feel like a real game and not just practice... Just wouldn't have
    the distraction of the fans there...

    I'm not a sports fan either but just there is some excitement and
    encouragement from an audience, sports or theater.


    We watched _Who Wants to be a Millionaire_ the other night; it was recorded without an audience which seemed strange. Most of the time
    the TV viewer doesn't see the audience but does hear them; the show
    didn't have the audience's background noise -- breathing and movements
    are recorded. Was something like the silence of 9/11 when no jets,
    etc., in the air. The crew was trying to make up for some of the
    silence by cheering, etc.
    They might have done better with having a "skeleton crew"
    audience... just a few people scattered throughout the room to
    make sounds... ;)

    That would be an idea! Maybe the logistics just don't work out as none
    of the shows with audiences have audiences. Maybe a group of two
    distancing from a group of six just doesn't work.


    Our church has been livestreaming the morning
    service ever since things have been shut down... the pastor is in
    the pulpit, the accompanist at the piano (or organ when it was my
    turn), Tony is running the video equipment and Richard the
    regular sound (fed to the video stream)... and then there's a few
    others there to be the congregation (for singing and
    responses)... I've been coming with Richard to be part of that, a
    couple of the elders come and count the offering afterwards (sent
    in by mail or paypal), and today the accompanist's husband came
    with her, and one other from the elders also came... so a total
    of 9... Usually it would be more like 75-85 or more there... but
    at least it does make for a less dead stream of the real
    service... :)

    It would! The few of present would give more of a regular feel. The
    other little detail is the group 'knows the ropes': what to do, how to
    stay away while doing their job. Studio audience would be a bunch of
    random people new to the environment.


    Richard has been going out more than I do, as I think I mentioned
    before.... fewer reasons TO go out, with doctor offices closed,
    restaurants closed, any sort of gathering place closed.... etc....
    I'm mostly content to stay home unless there's a good reason to go
    out...
    Right: I'm the more stay-at-home now also: not all that into shopping
    just for browsing sake. And as you said, more and more places closing
    down, or limiting access.
    Exactly... fewer places to go on my regular paths....
    Pretty soon the highlight of my social life will be watching the
    mailman delivering the mail!
    I'm not even downstairs to watch that happening... ;)

    <chuckle>


    Those names do ring a bell. I haven't seen a fencing match in ages
    but do recall admiring the artform.
    It's not a common sport.... you see more sword dueling in movies than
    any sort of fencing as a sport.... ;) All I ever did was the foil
    fencing.... ;) Couldn't do it now, though, I'm sure.... :)
    Fencing might become more popular: you're enclosed in a protective
    suit and generally stay a few feet away from the other person!!
    But with gyms closed down, there's no place to practice, or for that
    matter, to run meets.... ;)
    Fence in a scuba suit!!
    And have the meets in open fields....? ;) Nah, I don't think
    so...

    Darn: foiled again! <bseg>


    As for the deck/stair repair here, I could probably do the step easy
    enough: just get the proper width and cut to length. OK, and screw
    back in place! The replacement of the board on the deck itself should
    be about as easy, though when looking the other day appears may be a
    few boards rather than just one. Will have to take a better look;
    might be better not to fiddle with it temporarily and just have the
    whole job done as originally planned last year.
    Depending on how much of a hazard the bad boards are at this time... if
    not too much of one, could wait for the more complete job later... :)
    The patch job is something doable. Will consider if for whatever
    reason can't get the enter thing professionally replaced this
    Spring/early Summer.
    Here in NYS, at least, contractors are allowed to do that sort of
    work, even with only essential business allowed... :)

    Probably here also; we need to look into the replacement. Repair could
    be done but I'm thinking as a last resort. No danger of falling through
    -- even the one step isn't that bad. Just is a more than last year.


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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Tue May 5 17:37:22 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 28-Apr-2020 10:19 <=-

    Depends a lot on one's circadian rhythms... As long as one gets their
    necessary sleep, and can function during the waking hours... ;)
    Yes; I wonder how many people have adjusted their sleep schedules now
    they don't have to go to work? Working from home might allow for a
    more natural/personalized pattern.
    Possible... unless they still have to keep to a fairly rigid
    schedule... Just don't have the commute there and back... ;)
    Like the local morning TV anchors -- they have to 'commute' to their
    home office-now-studio but still have to be ready to be on the air at 4:30, so review the news, select the articles for presentation, who
    does, etc. And don't forget showering, dressing, makeup for the
    ladies.

    Exactly... :)

    I'll have to check when I go: here too most if not all restaurants are
    doing just carry-out, curbside delivery or delivery. (I can't think
    of one restaurant doing dine-in so probably all.) Last I recall the
    Starbucks at Hy-Vee had a customer chatting with the barista at the
    counter; I sort of vaguely recall the tables and chairs spread out on
    the floor but no one sitting, which lately has not been unusual.
    Maybe that was just before everything got shut down...
    Quite possible. That was around a month ago. In the interim the
    tables and chairs had been removed, the areas sort of made to look less empty by expanding the entry aisle a bit and lining with carts of clearance.

    Sounds more like what I was expecting.... :)

    Last week I didn't go: only two items in the ad I was semi-interested
    in; I'd guess almost half of the digital ad was summer entertainment: grills, furniture, and the like.

    We've not had anything even resembling ads from Wegmans... Maybe they
    decided to save money by not printing any of their usual stuff... and I
    suppose no need to try to attract extra people when we need to be
    practicing distancing anyway....

    Even here, one wouldn't likely know about it during flu season unless
    they or someone they knew was contemplating surgery... no widespread
    public announcements like we have now with the pandemic....
    Even then it seems is just a postponement/rescheduling and seems for
    common reasons, nothing to do with a local/regionalized sickness.
    Sometimes there's still the ability to schedule surgeries, even
    during flu season... "elective" surgeries can still be very
    necessary, just not an emergency...
    True: I'm thinking kidney stones' lithotripsy. It may seem like an emergency at the time but probably classified more as elective.
    (Though I elect to have it now! <rs!>)

    I think that might be considered more emergency than elective... I was
    thinking more such things as cataract surgeries.... :)

    If really needed your eye doctor might be able to schedule an
    appointment -- mine has sent out e-mails indicating a doctor on duty
    can be contacted. I'm not recalling "for emergencies" but to me
    implied. Break frames or loose a contact: fine. Just need a regular
    exam: probably not.
    I had the regular exam back in February, but didn't immediately order
    my new glasses, which in retrospect was a bad choice... I'd been
    considering getting the new glasses at BJ's or the like instead of
    directly at the office....
    Hindsight being 20/20, which is even worse when referring to vision!
    Indeed.
    According to the last e-mail I received my optometrist's office was anticipating re-opening May 5th. Their announcment was several days before the Governor announced partial re-openings in 77 of Iowa's 99 counties -- we're not part of the 77. Don't know if this changed the planned re-opening date: didn't see anything in last night's e-mail
    but that would have been only about seven hours after the Governor's announcement.

    They might have voluntarily closed, from guidelines from their
    professional organization, as my dentist office did, rather than being
    part of the governor's mandatory shutdown...

    BTW my dental office called: my rescheduled appointment was next
    Wednesday (April 22) and they will be closed I think through May 5th at
    the earliest. Could have rescheduled but she was sort of indicating
    probably would have to be postponed again so I opted for the we'll
    schedule when open for sure again -- she sounded relieved at the
    choice.
    My dentist's office hasn't called yet to reschedule my hygenist
    appointment... I suspect that it won't be, since I do have another
    one already scheduled for 3 months out from the cancelled one.... I
    was scheduled for a follow-up visit to the endodontist tomorrow...
    they called Friday and moved it out 5 weeks, hoping that they'll be
    able to keep that... :)
    Hope so! In general all these delays are probably doing a number on overall planning. Instead of being relatively evenly spread
    throughout the year now all the Spring appointments are scooted over
    to Summer. Those six month checkups will be bunched in Winter.... Probably able to do some nine month checks....

    Possibly...

    things are dragging on longer than people originally thought they
    might....
    The news this morning indicated (professional) sporting events would
    not be with the fans present until probably 2021. I'm not into sports,
    occasionally watch -- no fans in the stands would be strange!
    Probably really strange for the players to be playing a competition
    game without fans: would seem like a practice.
    I don't even watch sports... but I suppose it might seem strange...
    I'd think, though, that if one was playing a different team (not just
    ones own teammates in scrimmage) it still would feel like a real game
    and not just practice... Just wouldn't have the distraction of the
    fans there...
    I'm not a sports fan either but just there is some excitement and encouragement from an audience, sports or theater.

    Ok, then, encouragement... <G>

    We watched _Who Wants to be a Millionaire_ the other night; it was
    recorded without an audience which seemed strange. Most of the time
    the TV viewer doesn't see the audience but does hear them; the show
    didn't have the audience's background noise -- breathing and movements
    are recorded. Was something like the silence of 9/11 when no jets,
    etc., in the air. The crew was trying to make up for some of the
    silence by cheering, etc.
    They might have done better with having a "skeleton crew" audience...
    just a few people scattered throughout the room to make sounds... ;)
    That would be an idea! Maybe the logistics just don't work out as
    none of the shows with audiences have audiences. Maybe a group of two distancing from a group of six just doesn't work.

    Or maybe it's too hard to just choose a small number out of the ones
    that thought they'd be able to attend, and not make enemies... ;)

    Our church has been livestreaming the morning service ever since things
    have been shut down... the pastor is in the pulpit, the accompanist
    at the piano (or organ when it was my turn), Tony is running the video
    equipment and Richard the regular sound (fed to the video stream)...
    and then there's a few others there to be the congregation (for singing
    and responses)... I've been coming with Richard to be part of that, a
    couple of the elders come and count the offering afterwards (sent in by
    mail or paypal), and today the accompanist's husband came with her, and
    one other from the elders also came... so a total of 9... Usually it
    would be more like 75-85 or more there... but at least it does make for
    a less dead stream of the real service... :)
    It would! The few of present would give more of a regular feel. The other little detail is the group 'knows the ropes': what to do, how to stay away while doing their job. Studio audience would be a bunch of random people new to the environment.

    There is that, too...

    Those names do ring a bell. I haven't seen a fencing match in ages
    but do recall admiring the artform.
    It's not a common sport.... you see more sword dueling in movies than
    any sort of fencing as a sport.... ;) All I ever did was the foil
    fencing.... ;) Couldn't do it now, though, I'm sure.... :)
    Fencing might become more popular: you're enclosed in a protective
    suit and generally stay a few feet away from the other person!!
    But with gyms closed down, there's no place to practice, or for that
    matter, to run meets.... ;)
    Fence in a scuba suit!!
    And have the meets in open fields....? ;) Nah, I don't think so...
    Darn: foiled again! <bseg>

    ;)

    As for the deck/stair repair here, I could probably do the step easy
    enough: just get the proper width and cut to length. OK, and screw
    back in place! The replacement of the board on the deck itself should
    be about as easy, though when looking the other day appears may be a
    few boards rather than just one. Will have to take a better look;
    might be better not to fiddle with it temporarily and just have the
    whole job done as originally planned last year.
    Depending on how much of a hazard the bad boards are at this time...
    if not too much of one, could wait for the more complete job later...
    The patch job is something doable. Will consider if for whatever
    reason can't get the enter thing professionally replaced this
    Spring/early Summer.
    Here in NYS, at least, contractors are allowed to do that sort of
    work, even with only essential business allowed... :)
    Probably here also; we need to look into the replacement. Repair
    could be done but I'm thinking as a last resort. No danger of falling through -- even the one step isn't that bad. Just is a more than last year.

    So until it gets more dangerous, there's really no pressing need to get
    it fixed yet.... ;)

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    A: No, 35 children is enough.

    At least my sister stopped at 10.... <G>

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Wed May 6 10:09:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    I'll have to check when I go: here too most if not all restaurants are
    doing just carry-out, curbside delivery or delivery. (I can't think
    of one restaurant doing dine-in so probably all.) Last I recall the
    Starbucks at Hy-Vee had a customer chatting with the barista at the
    counter; I sort of vaguely recall the tables and chairs spread out on
    the floor but no one sitting, which lately has not been unusual.
    Maybe that was just before everything got shut down...
    Quite possible. That was around a month ago. In the interim the
    tables and chairs had been removed, the areas sort of made to look less empty by expanding the entry aisle a bit and lining with carts of clearance.
    Sounds more like what I was expecting.... :)

    Yes; the clearance carts will probably be replaced by Mother's Day
    options -- is this Sunday as I write. And Saturday's forecast is for
    31ø - fortunately that's the expected low and not high!


    Last week I didn't go: only two items in the ad I was semi-interested
    in; I'd guess almost half of the digital ad was summer entertainment: grills, furniture, and the like.
    We've not had anything even resembling ads from Wegmans... Maybe
    they decided to save money by not printing any of their usual
    stuff... and I suppose no need to try to attract extra people
    when we need to be practicing distancing anyway....

    Normally Hy-Vee has about a 6" wide ad on the left side of the front
    page of a Wednesday advertiser and inside is a 20 page insert. Usually
    the first page ad was for specials at their mini-grocery insid ethe gas station. Now they have retained the first page ad and the insert is
    only four or six pages, sometimes eight. Starting today (May 6) they're restricting meat/chicken/pork purchases to four packs total; saw on the
    news other stores in the U.S. were limiting to three packs and Wendy's
    was out of beef for their burgers.


    If really needed your eye doctor might be able to schedule an
    appointment -- mine has sent out e-mails indicating a doctor on duty
    can be contacted. I'm not recalling "for emergencies" but to me
    implied. Break frames or loose a contact: fine. Just need a regular
    exam: probably not.
    I had the regular exam back in February, but didn't immediately order
    my new glasses, which in retrospect was a bad choice... I'd been
    considering getting the new glasses at BJ's or the like instead of
    directly at the office....
    Hindsight being 20/20, which is even worse when referring to vision!
    Indeed.
    According to the last e-mail I received my optometrist's office was anticipating re-opening May 5th. Their announcment was several days before the Governor announced partial re-openings in 77 of Iowa's 99 counties -- we're not part of the 77. Don't know if this changed the planned re-opening date: didn't see anything in last night's e-mail
    but that would have been only about seven hours after the Governor's announcement.
    They might have voluntarily closed, from guidelines from their professional organization, as my dentist office did, rather than
    being part of the governor's mandatory shutdown...

    I'm not sure if voluntary or mandatory; more "we're closed" "OK" type of thought process. With both offices if there is a problem it will be
    taken care of but routine checks will be postponed. ...Watch out for
    that backlog!!


    things are dragging on longer than people originally thought they
    might....
    The news this morning indicated (professional) sporting events would
    not be with the fans present until probably 2021. I'm not into sports,
    occasionally watch -- no fans in the stands would be strange!
    Probably really strange for the players to be playing a competition
    game without fans: would seem like a practice.
    I don't even watch sports... but I suppose it might seem strange...
    I'd think, though, that if one was playing a different team (not just
    ones own teammates in scrimmage) it still would feel like a real game
    and not just practice... Just wouldn't have the distraction of the
    fans there...
    I'm not a sports fan either but just there is some excitement and encouragement from an audience, sports or theater.
    Ok, then, encouragement... <G>

    Just thought of an invention: they have the laugh track for TV, need the Audiencer for live events: sports, concerts, etc. The Deluxe Audiencer
    has robots which get up and cheer - can easily be programmed to do The
    Wave. <g> Optional vendors tossing batteries in the form of hot dogs
    not included. <gg>


    We watched _Who Wants to be a Millionaire_ the other night; it was
    recorded without an audience which seemed strange. Most of the time
    the TV viewer doesn't see the audience but does hear them; the show
    didn't have the audience's background noise -- breathing and movements
    are recorded. Was something like the silence of 9/11 when no jets,
    etc., in the air. The crew was trying to make up for some of the
    silence by cheering, etc.
    They might have done better with having a "skeleton crew" audience...
    just a few people scattered throughout the room to make sounds... ;)
    That would be an idea! Maybe the logistics just don't work out as
    none of the shows with audiences have audiences. Maybe a group of two distancing from a group of six just doesn't work.
    Or maybe it's too hard to just choose a small number out of the
    ones that thought they'd be able to attend, and not make
    enemies... ;)

    Possibly: sometimes just easier logistics of all or none.



    As for the deck/stair repair here, I could probably do the step easy
    enough: just get the proper width and cut to length. OK, and screw
    back in place! The replacement of the board on the deck itself should
    be about as easy, though when looking the other day appears may be a
    few boards rather than just one. Will have to take a better look;
    might be better not to fiddle with it temporarily and just have the
    whole job done as originally planned last year.
    Depending on how much of a hazard the bad boards are at this time...
    if not too much of one, could wait for the more complete job later...
    The patch job is something doable. Will consider if for whatever
    reason can't get the enter thing professionally replaced this
    Spring/early Summer.
    Here in NYS, at least, contractors are allowed to do that sort of
    work, even with only essential business allowed... :)
    Probably here also; we need to look into the replacement. Repair
    could be done but I'm thinking as a last resort. No danger of falling through -- even the one step isn't that bad. Just is a more than last year.
    So until it gets more dangerous, there's really no pressing need
    to get it fixed yet.... ;)

    Right, though it's a replace this year project unless a major But First
    elbows its way in. At this point more wait a few more weeks until the
    county re-opens so can wander to see options. Could probably make appointments but we'd rather do a bit of wandering to see various
    'random' options: this store has a fence pattern we like, this shop a
    flooring pattern but wrong material -- get ideas together and see what
    can be done from that during an meeting with a construction vendor.



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    A: No, 35 children is enough.
    At least my sister stopped at 10.... <G>

    <gasp!> I'm an only child so sounds - - - frightening!!


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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Tue May 12 18:04:02 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 06-May-2020 10:09 <=-

    Starbucks at Hy-Vee had a customer chatting with the barista at the
    counter; I sort of vaguely recall the tables and chairs spread out on
    the floor but no one sitting, which lately has not been unusual.
    Maybe that was just before everything got shut down...
    Quite possible. That was around a month ago. In the interim the
    tables and chairs had been removed, the areas sort of made to look
    less empty by expanding the entry aisle a bit and lining with carts
    of clearance.
    Sounds more like what I was expecting.... :)
    Yes; the clearance carts will probably be replaced by Mother's Day
    options -- is this Sunday as I write.

    Or end up being clearance for Mother's Day, afterwards... ;)

    And Saturday's forecast is for
    31ø - fortunately that's the expected low and not high!

    Even that is a bit low for this time of year.... We've had freeze
    warnings almost every night for a week or so... continuing tonight and
    possibly also tomorrow night (Wed 13th)... but then things are supposed
    to go back to seasonal temps in the 60s during the day, and low temps
    above freezing....

    Last week I didn't go: only two items in the ad I was semi-interested
    in; I'd guess almost half of the digital ad was summer entertainment:
    grills, furniture, and the like.
    We've not had anything even resembling ads from Wegmans... Maybe they
    decided to save money by not printing any of their usual stuff... and
    I suppose no need to try to attract extra people when we need to be
    practicing distancing anyway....
    Normally Hy-Vee has about a 6" wide ad on the left side of the front
    page of a Wednesday advertiser and inside is a 20 page insert.
    Usually the first page ad was for specials at their mini-grocery inside the gas station. Now they have retained the first page ad and the
    insert is only four or six pages, sometimes eight. Starting today (May
    6) they're restricting meat/chicken/pork purchases to four packs total; saw on the news other stores in the U.S. were limiting to three packs
    and Wendy's was out of beef for their burgers.

    There were limits on the various meat products at our store Friday,
    too... but there were plenty of supplies (perhaps because of the
    limits)... that's been pretty regular at the store for a while now,
    though...

    According to the last e-mail I received my optometrist's office was
    anticipating re-opening May 5th. Their announcment was several days
    before the Governor announced partial re-openings in 77 of Iowa's 99
    counties -- we're not part of the 77. Don't know if this changed the
    planned re-opening date: didn't see anything in last night's e-mail
    but that would have been only about seven hours after the Governor's
    announcement.
    They might have voluntarily closed, from guidelines from their
    professional organization, as my dentist office did, rather than
    being part of the governor's mandatory shutdown...
    I'm not sure if voluntary or mandatory; more "we're closed" "OK" type
    of thought process. With both offices if there is a problem it will be taken care of but routine checks will be postponed. ...Watch out for
    that backlog!!

    True... when things open back up, there probably will be quite the
    backlog....

    Probably really strange for the players to be playing a competition
    game without fans: would seem like a practice.
    I don't even watch sports... but I suppose it might seem strange...
    I'd think, though, that if one was playing a different team (not just
    ones own teammates in scrimmage) it still would feel like a real game
    and not just practice... Just wouldn't have the distraction of the
    fans there...
    I'm not a sports fan either but just there is some excitement and
    encouragement from an audience, sports or theater.
    Ok, then, encouragement... <G>
    Just thought of an invention: they have the laugh track for TV, need
    the Audiencer for live events: sports, concerts, etc. The Deluxe Audiencer has robots which get up and cheer - can easily be programmed
    to do The Wave. <g> Optional vendors tossing batteries in the form of
    hot dogs not included. <gg>

    There you go again... with that overly fertile imagination of yours
    going wild... <G> Quite the picture, though... ;)

    We watched _Who Wants to be a Millionaire_ the other night; it was
    recorded without an audience which seemed strange. Most of the time
    the TV viewer doesn't see the audience but does hear them; the show
    didn't have the audience's background noise -- breathing and movements
    are recorded. Was something like the silence of 9/11 when no jets,
    etc., in the air. The crew was trying to make up for some of the
    silence by cheering, etc.
    They might have done better with having a "skeleton crew" audience...
    just a few people scattered throughout the room to make sounds... ;)
    That would be an idea! Maybe the logistics just don't work out as
    none of the shows with audiences have audiences. Maybe a group of two
    distancing from a group of six just doesn't work.
    Or maybe it's too hard to just choose a small number out of the ones
    that thought they'd be able to attend, and not make enemies... ;)
    Possibly: sometimes just easier logistics of all or none.

    Yup.

    As for the deck/stair repair here, I could probably do the step easy
    enough: just get the proper width and cut to length. OK, and screw
    back in place! The replacement of the board on the deck itself should
    be about as easy, though when looking the other day appears may be a
    few boards rather than just one. Will have to take a better look;
    might be better not to fiddle with it temporarily and just have the
    whole job done as originally planned last year.
    Depending on how much of a hazard the bad boards are at this time...
    if not too much of one, could wait for the more complete job later...
    The patch job is something doable. Will consider if for whatever
    reason can't get the enter thing professionally replaced this
    Spring/early Summer.
    Here in NYS, at least, contractors are allowed to do that sort of
    work, even with only essential business allowed... :)
    Probably here also; we need to look into the replacement. Repair
    could be done but I'm thinking as a last resort. No danger of falling
    through -- even the one step isn't that bad. Just is a more than last
    year.
    So until it gets more dangerous, there's really no pressing need to
    get it fixed yet.... ;)
    Right, though it's a replace this year project unless a major But
    First elbows its way in. At this point more wait a few more weeks
    until the county re-opens so can wander to see options. Could probably make appointments but we'd rather do a bit of wandering to see various 'random' options: this store has a fence pattern we like, this shop a flooring pattern but wrong material -- get ideas together and see what
    can be done from that during an meeting with a construction vendor.

    Might as well do your research beforehand since there's time... :)

    ... Q: Should I have a baby after 35? A: No, 35 children is enough.
    At least my sister stopped at 10.... <G>
    <gasp!> I'm an only child so sounds - - - frightening!!

    As the oldest of 8, 10 or even 12 doesn't sound that terrible (although
    more than I'd want)... but 35 sounds a bit frightening even to me... <G>

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Wed May 13 08:47:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    Starbucks at Hy-Vee had a customer chatting with the barista at the
    counter; I sort of vaguely recall the tables and chairs spread out on
    the floor but no one sitting, which lately has not been unusual.
    Maybe that was just before everything got shut down...
    Quite possible. That was around a month ago. In the interim the
    tables and chairs had been removed, the areas sort of made to look
    less empty by expanding the entry aisle a bit and lining with carts
    of clearance.
    Sounds more like what I was expecting.... :)
    Yes; the clearance carts will probably be replaced by Mother's Day
    options -- is this Sunday as I write.
    Or end up being clearance for Mother's Day, afterwards... ;)

    Probably so! ...Will probably find out tomorrow; sort of depends on
    their ad as don't *need* anything but would a decent sale price could
    sway that.


    And Saturday's forecast is for
    31ø - fortunately that's the expected low and not high!
    Even that is a bit low for this time of year.... We've had freeze
    warnings almost every night for a week or so... continuing
    tonight and possibly also tomorrow night (Wed 13th)... but then
    things are supposed to go back to seasonal temps in the 60s
    during the day, and low temps above freezing....

    Did get down to 28ø; my Mother in southern NH had a snow/rain mix while
    the White Mountains had up to 10" of snow. We're supposed to get back
    into normal temperatures (low 70's) next week.


    they're restricting meat/chicken/pork purchases to four packs total;
    There were limits on the various meat products at our store
    Friday, too... but there were plenty of supplies (perhaps because
    of the limits)... that's been pretty regular at the store for a
    while now, though...

    I should have checked out the meat counter and section better but on
    cursory glance nothing unusual caught my eye so also would guess an
    adequate supply, possibly because of the limit and possibly the end-of- current-supply hadn't hit. Where I did notice holes was in frozen,
    especially certain pizza brands and Stouffers lasagna meals - maybe the
    same supplier? And pizza in general might have a bit of a run as quick
    and easy to prepare.



    They might have voluntarily closed, from guidelines from their
    professional organization, as my dentist office did, rather than
    being part of the governor's mandatory shutdown...
    I'm not sure if voluntary or mandatory; more "we're closed" "OK" type
    of thought process. With both offices if there is a problem it will be taken care of but routine checks will be postponed. ...Watch out for
    that backlog!!
    True... when things open back up, there probably will be quite
    the backlog....

    And I would presume/hope they schedule for allowances for emergencies,
    or even just getting caught up when that half-hour appointment stretches
    into 45 minutes or an hour! As for the backlog, yep; I'll admit to
    being part of it. Didn't do on purpose. <g> I'd presume the logistics
    on dealing with the backlog have been discussed with the various health organizations and possibly insurance companies, to smooth out the
    patient load, else there's going to be a bit of a dry spell in six
    months, a year, 18 months....


    Probably really strange for the players to be playing a competition
    game without fans: would seem like a practice.
    I don't even watch sports... but I suppose it might seem strange...
    I'd think, though, that if one was playing a different team (not just
    ones own teammates in scrimmage) it still would feel like a real game
    and not just practice... Just wouldn't have the distraction of the
    fans there...
    I'm not a sports fan either but just there is some excitement and
    encouragement from an audience, sports or theater.
    Ok, then, encouragement... <G>
    Just thought of an invention: they have the laugh track for TV, need
    the Audiencer for live events: sports, concerts, etc. The Deluxe Audiencer has robots which get up and cheer - can easily be programmed
    to do The Wave. <g> Optional vendors tossing batteries in the form of
    hot dogs not included. <gg>
    There you go again... with that overly fertile imagination of
    yours going wild... <G> Quite the picture, though... ;)

    Thank you? <gg>



    As for the deck/stair repair here, I could probably do the step easy
    enough: just get the proper width and cut to length. OK, and screw
    back in place! The replacement of the board on the deck itself should
    be about as easy, though when looking the other day appears may be a
    few boards rather than just one. Will have to take a better look;
    might be better not to fiddle with it temporarily and just have the
    whole job done as originally planned last year.
    Depending on how much of a hazard the bad boards are at this time...
    if not too much of one, could wait for the more complete job later...
    The patch job is something doable. Will consider if for whatever
    reason can't get the enter thing professionally replaced this
    Spring/early Summer.
    Here in NYS, at least, contractors are allowed to do that sort of
    work, even with only essential business allowed... :)
    Probably here also; we need to look into the replacement. Repair
    could be done but I'm thinking as a last resort. No danger of falling
    through -- even the one step isn't that bad. Just is a more than last
    year.
    So until it gets more dangerous, there's really no pressing need to
    get it fixed yet.... ;)
    Right, though it's a replace this year project unless a major But
    First elbows its way in. At this point more wait a few more weeks
    until the county re-opens so can wander to see options. Could probably make appointments but we'd rather do a bit of wandering to see various 'random' options: this store has a fence pattern we like, this shop a flooring pattern but wrong material -- get ideas together and see what
    can be done from that during an meeting with a construction vendor.
    Might as well do your research beforehand since there's time... :)

    Yes, sort of have done some preliminary idea-getting.



    ... Q: Should I have a baby after 35? A: No, 35 children is enough.
    At least my sister stopped at 10.... <G>
    <gasp!> I'm an only child so sounds - - - frightening!!
    As the oldest of 8, 10 or even 12 doesn't sound that terrible
    (although more than I'd want)... but 35 sounds a bit frightening
    even to me... <G>

    Need a bus just to transport the family, maybe a couple of vans. Small diner's kitchen for cooking, even then in shifts. A whole wing of the
    house just for laundry and off-season clothing storage. Urgh!!


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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Thu May 21 16:48:18 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 13-May-2020 08:47 <=-

    Starbucks at Hy-Vee had a customer chatting with the barista at the
    counter; I sort of vaguely recall the tables and chairs spread out on
    the floor but no one sitting, which lately has not been unusual.
    Maybe that was just before everything got shut down...
    Quite possible. That was around a month ago. In the interim the
    tables and chairs had been removed, the areas sort of made to look
    less empty by expanding the entry aisle a bit and lining with carts
    of clearance.
    Sounds more like what I was expecting.... :)
    Yes; the clearance carts will probably be replaced by Mother's Day
    options -- is this Sunday as I write.
    Or end up being clearance for Mother's Day, afterwards... ;)
    Probably so! ...Will probably find out tomorrow;

    And was there any Mother's Day clearance...?

    sort of depends on their ad as don't *need* anything but would a decent sale price could sway that.

    Or didn't you end up going... ;)

    And Saturday's forecast is for
    31ø - fortunately that's the expected low and not high!
    Even that is a bit low for this time of year.... We've had freeze
    warnings almost every night for a week or so... continuing tonight
    and possibly also tomorrow night (Wed 13th)... but then things are
    supposed to go back to seasonal temps in the 60s during the day, and
    low temps above freezing....
    Did get down to 28ø; my Mother in southern NH had a snow/rain mix
    while the White Mountains had up to 10" of snow. We're supposed to get back into normal temperatures (low 70's) next week.

    Thankfully we've not been having snow... :) And we are back into
    normal temps now... with Memorial Day threatening to be summer-like with
    a high near 80... :)

    they're restricting meat/chicken/pork purchases to four packs total;
    There were limits on the various meat products at our store Friday,
    too... but there were plenty of supplies (perhaps because of the
    limits)... that's been pretty regular at the store for a while now,
    though...
    I should have checked out the meat counter and section better but on cursory glance nothing unusual caught my eye so also would guess an adequate supply, possibly because of the limit and possibly the end-of-current-supply hadn't hit. Where I did notice holes was in
    frozen, especially certain pizza brands and Stouffers lasagna meals - maybe the same supplier? And pizza in general might have a bit of a
    run as quick and easy to prepare.

    Hard to tell what drives the shortages... fortunately for us, anything
    that we want/need seems to be in supply, or has a viable substitute...

    They might have voluntarily closed, from guidelines from their
    professional organization, as my dentist office did, rather than
    being part of the governor's mandatory shutdown...
    I'm not sure if voluntary or mandatory; more "we're closed" "OK" type
    of thought process. With both offices if there is a problem it will be
    taken care of but routine checks will be postponed. ...Watch out for
    that backlog!!
    True... when things open back up, there probably will be quite the
    backlog....
    And I would presume/hope they schedule for allowances for emergencies,
    or even just getting caught up when that half-hour appointment
    stretches into 45 minutes or an hour! As for the backlog, yep; I'll
    admit to being part of it. Didn't do on purpose. <g>

    It was, after all, rather forced upon us... <G>

    I'd presume the logistics on dealing with the backlog have been
    discussed with the various health organizations and possibly insurance companies, to smooth out the patient load, else there's going to be a
    bit of a dry spell in six months, a year, 18 months....

    Depending on how far out they were actually booking... everybody might
    just get pushed down the line however long this gap ends up being, two
    months, three months... people that normally come in every three months probably just skip that one appointment and continue from there...
    anything critical may be being done by phone or telemedicine during the hiatus....

    Depending on how much of a hazard the bad boards are at this time...
    if not too much of one, could wait for the more complete job later...
    The patch job is something doable. Will consider if for whatever
    reason can't get the entire thing professionally replaced this
    Spring/early Summer.
    Here in NYS, at least, contractors are allowed to do that sort of
    work, even with only essential business allowed... :)
    Probably here also; we need to look into the replacement. Repair
    could be done but I'm thinking as a last resort. No danger of falling
    through -- even the one step isn't that bad. Just is a more than last
    year.
    So until it gets more dangerous, there's really no pressing need to
    get it fixed yet.... ;)
    Right, though it's a replace this year project unless a major But
    First elbows its way in. At this point more wait a few more weeks
    until the county re-opens so can wander to see options. Could probably
    make appointments but we'd rather do a bit of wandering to see various
    'random' options: this store has a fence pattern we like, this shop a
    flooring pattern but wrong material -- get ideas together and see what
    can be done from that during an meeting with a construction vendor.
    Might as well do your research beforehand since there's time... :)
    Yes, sort of have done some preliminary idea-getting.

    Now it's just a case of waiting to see if the contractors will be able
    to schedule you in this year or not... ;)

    ... Q: Should I have a baby after 35? A: No, 35 children is enough.
    At least my sister stopped at 10.... <G>
    <gasp!> I'm an only child so sounds - - - frightening!!
    As oldest of 8, 10 or even 12 doesn't sound that terrible (although
    more than I'd want)... but 35 sounds a bit frightening even to me. <G>
    Need a bus just to transport the family, maybe a couple of vans.

    When we were up to 5 or 6 kids, and the stationwagon died, Daddy bought
    his first VW Microbus (essentially a van)... we went through 3 or 4 of
    those before the kids were mostly out of the house.. ;) But only one at
    a time... ;)

    Small diner's kitchen for cooking, even then in shifts. A whole wing
    of the house just for laundry and off-season clothing storage. Urgh!!

    Some things to keep in mind, though... there are some economies of
    scale, and less likely that there would be a super-abundance of clothing
    per person... And, unless each pregnancy was a set of quadruplets or
    more, chances are that the older kids would be well out on their own
    long before the youngest were even born... And in any case, the older
    kids help out with the younger ones... ;) A table to seat 37 people
    would, though, need a rather large room to hold it... ;) The cooking
    might not need to be done in shifts (just no short-order cooking), but
    the eating might need to be... <G>

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Fri May 22 11:44:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    Starbucks at Hy-Vee had a customer chatting with the barista at the
    counter; I sort of vaguely recall the tables and chairs spread out on
    the floor but no one sitting, which lately has not been unusual.
    Maybe that was just before everything got shut down...
    Quite possible. That was around a month ago. In the interim the
    tables and chairs had been removed, the areas sort of made to look
    less empty by expanding the entry aisle a bit and lining with carts
    of clearance.
    Sounds more like what I was expecting.... :)
    Yes; the clearance carts will probably be replaced by Mother's Day
    options -- is this Sunday as I write.
    Or end up being clearance for Mother's Day, afterwards... ;)
    Probably so! ...Will probably find out tomorrow;
    And was there any Mother's Day clearance...?

    Probably a little but nothing really sticks in my mind (darn Teflon
    coating!) <g>) Not too much general clearance and only a couple items
    of potential interest.


    sort of depends on their ad as don't *need* anything but would a decent sale price could sway that.
    Or didn't you end up going... ;)

    So far just skipped the one week.


    And Saturday's forecast is for
    31ø - fortunately that's the expected low and not high!
    Even that is a bit low for this time of year.... We've had freeze
    warnings almost every night for a week or so... continuing tonight
    and possibly also tomorrow night (Wed 13th)... but then things are
    supposed to go back to seasonal temps in the 60s during the day, and
    low temps above freezing....
    Did get down to 28ø; my Mother in southern NH had a snow/rain mix
    while the White Mountains had up to 10" of snow. We're supposed to get back into normal temperatures (low 70's) next week.
    Thankfully we've not been having snow... :) And we are back
    into normal temps now... with Memorial Day threatening to be
    summer-like with a high near 80... :)

    Today it's supposed to get into the low 70's and sunny -- which will be
    nice after a week of what seemed like nothing but overcast, drizzle, and
    cool. Right now 56ø and definitely overcast but they say it'll improve!


    they're restricting meat/chicken/pork purchases to four packs total;
    There were limits on the various meat products at our store Friday,
    too... but there were plenty of supplies (perhaps because of the
    limits)... that's been pretty regular at the store for a while now,
    though...
    I should have checked out the meat counter and section better but on cursory glance nothing unusual caught my eye so also would guess an adequate supply, possibly because of the limit and possibly the end-of-current-supply hadn't hit. Where I did notice holes was in
    frozen, especially certain pizza brands and Stouffers lasagna meals - maybe the same supplier? And pizza in general might have a bit of a
    run as quick and easy to prepare.
    Hard to tell what drives the shortages... fortunately for us,
    anything that we want/need seems to be in supply, or has a viable substitute...

    Yes. Hy-Vee had a Hormel pork loin or tenderloin on a buy one get one
    free, so two for $8.99. Would have bought but was told not to as
    sufficient in the freezer. Print ad (about 12"x12") has almost the
    entire page with a meat ad partially geared towards next weekend's
    Memorial Day weekend. Would guess next week's heavier on the grill
    items, though if the 4-packs restriction is still in place "could be interesting".


    They might have voluntarily closed, from guidelines from their
    professional organization, as my dentist office did, rather than
    being part of the governor's mandatory shutdown...
    I'm not sure if voluntary or mandatory; more "we're closed" "OK" type
    of thought process. With both offices if there is a problem it will be
    taken care of but routine checks will be postponed. ...Watch out for
    that backlog!!
    True... when things open back up, there probably will be quite the
    backlog....
    And I would presume/hope they schedule for allowances for emergencies,
    or even just getting caught up when that half-hour appointment
    stretches into 45 minutes or an hour! As for the backlog, yep; I'll
    admit to being part of it. Didn't do on purpose. <g>
    It was, after all, rather forced upon us... <G>

    Yes. Haven't heard anything from my dentist's office -- no idea if they
    are open yet and as nothing bothering me won't call. If haven't heard
    anything by mid-June will inquire -- that's about three weeks from now.

    Semi-tangent: the shop where I go to get my hair cut has been swamped
    with an hour waiting list. Other shops the same -- I'll just wait a bit
    more before trying.


    I'd presume the logistics on dealing with the backlog have been
    discussed with the various health organizations and possibly insurance companies, to smooth out the patient load, else there's going to be a
    bit of a dry spell in six months, a year, 18 months....
    Depending on how far out they were actually booking... everybody
    might just get pushed down the line however long this gap ends up
    being, two months, three months... people that normally come in
    every three months probably just skip that one appointment and
    continue from there... anything critical may be being done by
    phone or telemedicine during the hiatus....

    Yes; probably more that way on the skip an appointment if already
    scheduled or the post_COVID-19 appointment would end up close to the
    usual cycle. Don't know of anyone who has done a tele-medical
    appointment but have seen advertised as an available option locally.



    Depending on how much of a hazard the bad boards are at this time...
    if not too much of one, could wait for the more complete job later...
    The patch job is something doable. Will consider if for whatever
    reason can't get the entire thing professionally replaced this
    Spring/early Summer.
    Here in NYS, at least, contractors are allowed to do that sort of
    work, even with only essential business allowed... :)
    Probably here also; we need to look into the replacement. Repair
    could be done but I'm thinking as a last resort. No danger of falling
    through -- even the one step isn't that bad. Just is a more than last
    year.
    So until it gets more dangerous, there's really no pressing need to
    get it fixed yet.... ;)
    Right, though it's a replace this year project unless a major But
    First elbows its way in. At this point more wait a few more weeks
    until the county re-opens so can wander to see options. Could probably
    make appointments but we'd rather do a bit of wandering to see various
    'random' options: this store has a fence pattern we like, this shop a
    flooring pattern but wrong material -- get ideas together and see what
    can be done from that during an meeting with a construction vendor.
    Might as well do your research beforehand since there's time... :)
    Yes, sort of have done some preliminary idea-getting.
    Now it's just a case of waiting to see if the contractors will be
    able to schedule you in this year or not... ;)

    Another minor detail!


    ... Q: Should I have a baby after 35? A: No, 35 children is enough.
    At least my sister stopped at 10.... <G>
    <gasp!> I'm an only child so sounds - - - frightening!!
    As oldest of 8, 10 or even 12 doesn't sound that terrible (although
    more than I'd want)... but 35 sounds a bit frightening even to me. <G>
    Need a bus just to transport the family, maybe a couple of vans.
    When we were up to 5 or 6 kids, and the stationwagon died, Daddy
    bought his first VW Microbus (essentially a van)... we went
    through 3 or 4 of those before the kids were mostly out of the
    house.. ;) But only one at a time... ;)

    As long as it wasn't yellow! (Here comes the mini school bus!) The
    microbus does make sense: I don't think that much bigger footprint than
    a car but seats more. ...Well, maybe the same, just easier. Only real experience with a large family is _The Brady Bunch_ TV show and think at
    one time they had a station wagon - I don't recall a van - but what
    occurs on TV isn't the same as in real life.


    Small diner's kitchen for cooking, even then in shifts. A whole wing
    of the house just for laundry and off-season clothing storage. Urgh!!
    Some things to keep in mind, though... there are some economies
    of scale, and less likely that there would be a super-abundance
    of clothing per person... And, unless each pregnancy was a set of quadruplets or more, chances are that the older kids would be
    well out on their own long before the youngest were even born...
    And in any case, the older kids help out with the younger ones...
    ;) A table to seat 37 people would, though, need a rather large
    room to hold it... ;) The cooking might not need to be done in
    shifts (just no short-order cooking), but the eating might need
    to be... <G>

    Yes, assuming single pregnancies and once a year that's around 30 years. (OMG!) The older children would help take care of the younger - and eventually their own at the same time. Shift-eating would almost be a requirement. Passing down of clothes, toys, etc. also pretty much a requirment. ...Two two-tier bunk beds per bedroom; probably a house
    with five or six bedrooms - some have moved out. <spinning!!>


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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Wed Jun 3 19:17:24 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 22-May-2020 11:44 <=-

    Yes; the clearance carts will probably be replaced by Mother's Day
    options -- is this Sunday as I write.
    Or end up being clearance for Mother's Day, afterwards... ;)
    Probably so! ...Will probably find out tomorrow;
    And was there any Mother's Day clearance...?
    Probably a little but nothing really sticks in my mind (darn Teflon coating!) <g>) Not too much general clearance and only a couple items
    of potential interest.

    Things somewhat normal despite the abnormalities.... At Wegmans, they've
    moved stand-alone refrigerated display cases around the area where the
    tables, chairs and self-serve hot/cold foods used to be... the area
    still seems somewhat empty, but not totally now.... provides a reason to
    wander through it anyway...

    I should have checked out the meat counter and section better but on
    cursory glance nothing unusual caught my eye so also would guess an
    adequate supply, possibly because of the limit and possibly the
    end-of-current-supply hadn't hit. Where I did notice holes was in
    frozen, especially certain pizza brands and Stouffers lasagna meals -
    maybe the same supplier? And pizza in general might have a bit of a
    run as quick and easy to prepare.
    Hard to tell what drives the shortages... fortunately for us, anything
    that we want/need seems to be in supply, or has a viable substitute...
    Yes. Hy-Vee had a Hormel pork loin or tenderloin on a buy one get one free, so two for $8.99. Would have bought but was told not to as sufficient in the freezer. Print ad (about 12"x12") has almost the
    entire page with a meat ad partially geared towards next weekend's Memorial Day weekend. Would guess next week's heavier on the grill
    items, though if the 4-packs restriction is still in place "could be interesting".

    Well, people aren't supposed to be having large parties yet, anyway... :)

    Haven't heard anything from my dentist's office -- no idea if
    they are open yet and as nothing bothering me won't call. If haven't heard anything by mid-June will inquire -- that's about three weeks
    from now.

    I'm thinking it's about time to check my dentist and eye doctor's
    offices... I heard on the radio that dentists were being allowed to open
    now around here....

    Semi-tangent: the shop where I go to get my hair cut has been swamped
    with an hour waiting list. Other shops the same -- I'll just wait a
    bit more before trying.

    That is totally expectable... everybody's had to wait for the
    reopening... and very few would have taken the scissors into their own
    hands... ;)

    I'd presume the logistics on dealing with the backlog have been
    discussed with the various health organizations and possibly insurance
    companies, to smooth out the patient load, else there's going to be a
    bit of a dry spell in six months, a year, 18 months....
    Depending on how far out they were actually booking... everybody might
    just get pushed down the line however long this gap ends up being, two
    months, three months... people that normally come in every three months
    probably just skip that one appointment and continue from there...
    anything critical may be being done by phone or telemedicine during the
    hiatus....
    Yes; probably more that way on the skip an appointment if already scheduled or the post_COVID-19 appointment would end up close to the
    usual cycle. Don't know of anyone who has done a tele-medical
    appointment but have seen advertised as an available option locally.

    Richard had a phone appointment as a regular follow-up with the primary
    doctor office, I know of someone who used the telemedicine to "visit" a dermatology specialist for a skin rash on her hands (that one was by
    computer), and I know of someone who contacted her doctor to get
    antibiotics prescribed for a bronchitis attack.... And I've also seen
    local advertisements for it at a nearby urgent care center....

    ... Q: Should I have a baby after 35? A: No, 35 children is enough.
    At least my sister stopped at 10.... <G>
    <gasp!> I'm an only child so sounds - - - frightening!!
    As oldest of 8, 10 or even 12 doesn't sound that terrible (although
    more than I'd want)... but 35 sounds a bit frightening even to me. <G>
    Need a bus just to transport the family, maybe a couple of vans.
    When we were up to 5 or 6 kids, and the stationwagon died, Daddy
    bought his first VW Microbus (essentially a van)... we went through 3
    or 4 of those before the kids were mostly out of the house.. ;) But
    only one at a time... ;)

    As long as it wasn't yellow! (Here comes the mini school bus!) The microbus does make sense: I don't think that much bigger footprint
    than a car but seats more. ...Well, maybe the same, just easier.

    The first one was olive green (two-tone, dark/light), the second red and
    cream or white, the third was orange (and maybe cream or white, also)...
    The VW had it's engine in the rear, with a in-car luggage area over it,
    and nothing really in front, so, yes, it was about the same footprint as
    a station wagon... and did seat a couple more.... Back then one didn't
    have to have seatbelts in the back or car seats, so one could squish in
    more kids... <G>

    Only real experience with a large family is _The Brady Bunch_ TV show
    and think at one time they had a station wagon - I don't recall a van
    - but what occurs on TV isn't the same as in real life.

    I think you are right about the station wagon... but I didn't see all
    that many episodes of that... :)

    Small diner's kitchen for cooking, even then in shifts. A whole wing
    of the house just for laundry and off-season clothing storage. Urgh!!
    Some things to keep in mind, though... there are some economies of
    scale, and less likely that there would be a super-abundance of
    clothing per person... And, unless each pregnancy was a set of
    quadruplets or more, chances are that the older kids would be well
    out on their own long before the youngest were even born... And in
    any case, the older kids help out with the younger ones... ;) A table
    to seat 37 people would, though, need a rather large room to hold
    it... ;) The cooking might not need to be done in shifts (just no
    short-order cooking), but the eating might need to be... <G>
    Yes, assuming single pregnancies and once a year that's around 30
    years. (OMG!)

    Actually for 35 kids, that would be 35 years.... but more likely with
    that many kids at least some of the births would have been multiples, at
    least twins... My sister with 10 kids had them every 2 years or so, so
    over a span of about 20 years... :)

    The older children would help take care of the younger -
    and eventually their own at the same time.

    By the time they got married and had their own kids, they'd be leaving
    the household, and the next set of "older" kids would be in turn taking
    care of younger ones... True, though, that even after I'd left home,
    Richard and I did help some with my youngest siblings still, especially
    as they got into their teens... :)

    Shift-eating would almost be a requirement.

    Actually, probably not... just not quite such formal seating as one
    would expect in a smaller family... I'm thinking of family get-togethers
    for Thanksgiving or Christmas even now, where there might easily be more
    than 40 or 50 there.... we don't eat in shifts, things just aren't
    always all that formal is all... ;)

    Passing down of clothes, toys, etc. also pretty much a requirement.

    Some sharing of toys... clothes can only be passed down so far before
    they wear out... :) Even as oldest, though, I rarely had any new
    clothes except as Christmas presents... ;)

    ...Two two-tier bunk beds per bedroom; probably a house
    with five or six bedrooms - some have moved out. <spinning!!>

    One does get creative... <G> Basements and attics get turned into
    bedrooms, sometimes more than one per... :) There are some larger
    homes, though... Friends of mine here in Rochester at one time owned a
    home that had three floors plus attic and basement... the second and
    third floors each had four bedrooms and two baths... they only used four
    of those as actual bedrooms, the others became office space or hobby
    space.... they only had three kids... :)

    ttyl neb

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