And like your WXXI there are a few stations to change to when something
major is going on. One may not be as good now: they had staff cuts
with the last I-Heart-Media slash so more automated. Still physically
part of a nine studio complex, so maybe "flip a switch" and simulcast.
What I was trying to say is that WXXI is the designated station toAh! Misread and misinterpreted that one. Not sure what is done here:
turn to for emergencies... when that EBS test message comes out, and
says, if this was an actual emergency, you'd be told where to tune
to... WXXI 91.5 is the one that would be designated for people
listening to the other stations... :)
I don't recall the test announcements indicating a specific station
would be used.
I think the specific station is only designated in the case of an
actual emergency....
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 12-Mar-2020 16:22 <=-
Found a spare Round TuIt and found some information:
What I was trying to say is that WXXI is the designated station to
turn to for emergencies... when that EBS test message comes out, and
says, if this was an actual emergency, you'd be told where to tune
to... WXXI 91.5 is the one that would be designated for people
listening to the other stations... :)
Ah! Misread and misinterpreted that one. Not sure what is done here:
I don't recall the test announcements indicating a specific station
would be used.
I think the specific station is only designated in the case of an<Later> So tracking down the information wasn't as easy as I thought it would be. The Spokane site seems to be headquarters and the page
actual emergency....
lists stations in Washington and Idaho. The webpage implies a page 2
but I couldn't find a way to get to it.
Back to Googling. Did find a listing "Primary Emergency Alert System Broadcast Stations" -- which went to the Spokane, WA, site!
...Checked where Firefox thought I was: yup, right location!
Did finally get somewhere with "Primary Emergency Alert System
Broadcast Stations Iowa": got me to an FCC page (https:/www.fcc.gov/files/ia-eas-plan.pdf so I suppose just substitute
the state). Finally find WOC-AM and WLLR-FM are the designated local primary stations -- they monitor WHO-AM in Des Moines which is up one level. Whew!
Now, if anyone is somewhat into radio callsigns (Daryl! Get back
on-line!) they'll note something a hare quirky: happens the three
stations I mentioned all begin with "W" and they're on the west side
of the Mississippi River where the call signs generally begin with "K". WOC and WHO are older than the "K" calls. WLLR is and isn't that old (they began as WOC-FM), not quite sure how they got the W.
What I was trying to say is that WXXI is the designated station to
turn to for emergencies... when that EBS test message comes out, and
says, if this was an actual emergency, you'd be told where to tune
to... WXXI 91.5 is the one that would be designated for people
listening to the other stations... :)
Ah! Misread and misinterpreted that one. Not sure what is done here:
I don't recall the test announcements indicating a specific station
would be used.
I think the specific station is only designated in the case of an<Later> So tracking down the information wasn't as easy as I thought it would be. The Spokane site seems to be headquarters and the page
actual emergency....
lists stations in Washington and Idaho. The webpage implies a page 2
but I couldn't find a way to get to it.
Back to Googling. Did find a listing "Primary Emergency Alert System Broadcast Stations" -- which went to the Spokane, WA, site!
...Checked where Firefox thought I was: yup, right location!
But, in thinking for you, it figured you wanted the headquarters
for your area....
Did finally get somewhere with "Primary Emergency Alert System
Broadcast Stations Iowa": got me to an FCC page (https:/www.fcc.gov/files/ia-eas-plan.pdf so I suppose just substitute
the state). Finally find WOC-AM and WLLR-FM are the designated local primary stations -- they monitor WHO-AM in Des Moines which is up one level. Whew!
So now you know for the next emergency (weather or otherwise)....
Now, if anyone is somewhat into radio callsigns (Daryl! Get back
on-line!) they'll note something a hare quirky: happens the three
stations I mentioned all begin with "W" and they're on the west side
of the Mississippi River where the call signs generally begin with "K". WOC and WHO are older than the "K" calls. WLLR is and isn't that old (they began as WOC-FM), not quite sure how they got the W.
True, the west of the Mississippi stations should be starting
with K... My guess would be that since WOC and WHO were able to
keep their W, being ancient stations (and interesting that they
didn't just add a K to those callsigns, since they are also odd
being only 3 letters), WLLR, being a part of WOC actually, was
allowed to use the W as well...
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 25-Mar-2020 07:57 <=-
I think the specific station is only designated in the case of an
actual emergency....
<Later> So tracking down the information wasn't as easy as I thought it
would be. The Spokane site seems to be headquarters and the page
lists stations in Washington and Idaho. The webpage implies a page 2
but I couldn't find a way to get to it.
Back to Googling. Did find a listing "Primary Emergency Alert System
Broadcast Stations" -- which went to the Spokane, WA, site!
...Checked where Firefox thought I was: yup, right location!
But, in thinking for you, it figured you wanted the headquarters forRight, though I've seen it think I'm in various parts of eastern Iowa.
your area....
I'm roughly in the center, on the bottom of the 'elbow' where Iowa
juts into Illinois. Frequently the browsers will think I'm in
Burlington all the way to the south, Dubuque all the way to the north, Clinton - the next county and city north. Usually Davenport, the next city over and has a major Internet connection (whatever it's called).
Did finally get somewhere with "Primary Emergency Alert System
Broadcast Stations Iowa": got me to an FCC page
(https:/www.fcc.gov/files/ia-eas-plan.pdf so I suppose just substitute
the state). Finally find WOC-AM and WLLR-FM are the designated local
primary stations -- they monitor WHO-AM in Des Moines which is up one
level. Whew!
So now you know for the next emergency (weather or otherwise)....And the 'good news' is the transmitter is at the antenna farm only a
few miles from here so should be able to receive the signal without too much problem.
Now, if anyone is somewhat into radio callsigns (Daryl! Get back
on-line!) they'll note something a hare quirky: happens the three
stations I mentioned all begin with "W" and they're on the west side
of the Mississippi River where the call signs generally begin with "K".
WOC and WHO are older than the "K" calls. WLLR is and isn't that old
(they began as WOC-FM), not quite sure how they got the W.
True, the west of the Mississippi stations should be starting with K...Something like that. And the call signs were originally three
My guess would be that since WOC and WHO were able to keep their W,
being ancient stations (and interesting that they didn't just add a K
to those callsigns, since they are also odd being only 3 letters),
WLLR, being a part of WOC actually, was allowed to use the W as well...
letters: WBZ in Boston comes to mind, seems like there's one in NYC.
And of course a bunch scattered throughout the country. ...Who'da
thought the need for more than WAA through WZZ!
I think the specific station is only designated in the case of an
actual emergency....
<Later> So tracking down the information wasn't as easy as I thought it
would be. The Spokane site seems to be headquarters and the page
lists stations in Washington and Idaho. The webpage implies a page 2
but I couldn't find a way to get to it.
Back to Googling. Did find a listing "Primary Emergency Alert System
Broadcast Stations" -- which went to the Spokane, WA, site!
...Checked where Firefox thought I was: yup, right location!
But, in thinking for you, it figured you wanted the headquarters forRight, though I've seen it think I'm in various parts of eastern Iowa.
your area....
Richard has problems with Google trying to think for him... it
often guesses wrong.... ;0
I'm roughly in the center, on the bottom of the 'elbow' where Iowa
juts into Illinois. Frequently the browsers will think I'm in
Burlington all the way to the south, Dubuque all the way to the north, Clinton - the next county and city north. Usually Davenport, the next city over and has a major Internet connection (whatever it's called).
At least Davenport makes a lot better sense than the other
options... ;)
Did finally get somewhere with "Primary Emergency Alert System
Broadcast Stations Iowa": got me to an FCC page
(https:/www.fcc.gov/files/ia-eas-plan.pdf so I suppose just substitute
the state). Finally find WOC-AM and WLLR-FM are the designated local
primary stations -- they monitor WHO-AM in Des Moines which is up one
level. Whew!
So now you know for the next emergency (weather or otherwise)....And the 'good news' is the transmitter is at the antenna farm only a
few miles from here so should be able to receive the signal without too much problem.
Very good.... :)
Now, if anyone is somewhat into radio callsigns (Daryl! Get back
on-line!) they'll note something a hare quirky: happens the three
stations I mentioned all begin with "W" and they're on the west side
of the Mississippi River where the call signs generally begin with "K".
WOC and WHO are older than the "K" calls. WLLR is and isn't that old
(they began as WOC-FM), not quite sure how they got the W.
True, the west of the Mississippi stations should be starting with K...Something like that. And the call signs were originally three
My guess would be that since WOC and WHO were able to keep their W,
being ancient stations (and interesting that they didn't just add a K
to those callsigns, since they are also odd being only 3 letters),
WLLR, being a part of WOC actually, was allowed to use the W as well...
letters: WBZ in Boston comes to mind, seems like there's one in NYC.
And of course a bunch scattered throughout the country. ...Who'da
thought the need for more than WAA through WZZ!
Surprise, surprise.... ;) Once there were any stations, every
locality would want their own.... and then there would be more
than one, competing with different formats.... <G>
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 02-Apr-2020 12:17 <=-
But, in thinking for you, it figured you wanted the headquarters for
your area....
Right, though I've seen it think I'm in various parts of eastern Iowa.
Richard has problems with Google trying to think for him... it oftenAll depends (as usual!). Most people probably want/mean a site local
guesses wrong.... ;0
to them. I've also entered partially technical terms which Google sometimes tries to dumb-down. It also seems the "+" and "-" options
don't work, or work a lot less definitive than they used to. Thinking
of "Vienna +1040" should have given me addresses in the 4th District (postal code 1040) but combined with other search terms came through rather a mish-mash.
I'm roughly in the center, on the bottom of the 'elbow' where Iowa
juts into Illinois. Frequently the browsers will think I'm in
Burlington all the way to the south, Dubuque all the way to the north,
Clinton - the next county and city north. Usually Davenport, the next
city over and has a major Internet connection (whatever it's called).
At least Davenport makes a lot better sense than the other options... ;)True. OTOH maybe like with telephone lines it connects me into the Internet where less busy: then Clinton would make sense as the next
one; Dubuque and Burlington are more 'extremes' as far as distance is concerned. <shrug> As long as it works!
Did finally get somewhere with "Primary Emergency Alert System
Broadcast Stations Iowa": got me to an FCC page
(https:/www.fcc.gov/files/ia-eas-plan.pdf so I suppose just substitute
the state). Finally find WOC-AM and WLLR-FM are the designated local
primary stations -- they monitor WHO-AM in Des Moines which is up one
level. Whew!
So now you know for the next emergency (weather or otherwise)....
And the 'good news' is the transmitter is at the antenna farm only a
few miles from here so should be able to receive the signal without too
much problem.
Very good.... :)Make sure have working batteries.....
True, the west of the Mississippi stations should be starting with K...
My guess would be that since WOC and WHO were able to keep their W,
being ancient stations (and interesting that they didn't just add a K
to those callsigns, since they are also odd being only 3 letters),
WLLR, being a part of WOC actually, was allowed to use the W as well...
Something like that. And the call signs were originally three
letters: WBZ in Boston comes to mind, seems like there's one in NYC.
And of course a bunch scattered throughout the country. ...Who'da
thought the need for more than WAA through WZZ!
Surprise, surprise.... ;) Once there were any stations, everyYup, or even same/similar formats: "I can do it better!".
locality would want their own.... and then there would be more than
one, competing with different formats.... <G>
But, in thinking for you, it figured you wanted the headquarters for
your area....
Right, though I've seen it think I'm in various parts of eastern Iowa.
Richard has problems with Google trying to think for him... it oftenAll depends (as usual!). Most people probably want/mean a site local
guesses wrong.... ;0
to them. I've also entered partially technical terms which Google sometimes tries to dumb-down. It also seems the "+" and "-" options
don't work, or work a lot less definitive than they used to. Thinking
of "Vienna +1040" should have given me addresses in the 4th District (postal code 1040) but combined with other search terms came through rather a mish-mash.
Well, actually, I don't generally do any Google searches, so I've
not learned any of the tricks that are supposed to work... the
options, the Boolean searches, etc.... I've heard tell of them,
and watched other people use them... but don't do them myself....
;)
I'm roughly in the center, on the bottom of the 'elbow' where Iowa
juts into Illinois. Frequently the browsers will think I'm in
Burlington all the way to the south, Dubuque all the way to the north,
Clinton - the next county and city north. Usually Davenport, the next
city over and has a major Internet connection (whatever it's called).
At least Davenport makes a lot better sense than the other options... ;)True. OTOH maybe like with telephone lines it connects me into the Internet where less busy: then Clinton would make sense as the next
one; Dubuque and Burlington are more 'extremes' as far as distance is concerned. <shrug> As long as it works!
It's all Wizard to me... <G>
Did finally get somewhere with "Primary Emergency Alert System
Broadcast Stations Iowa": got me to an FCC page
(https:/www.fcc.gov/files/ia-eas-plan.pdf so I suppose just substitute
the state). Finally find WOC-AM and WLLR-FM are the designated local
primary stations -- they monitor WHO-AM in Des Moines which is up one
level. Whew!
So now you know for the next emergency (weather or otherwise)....
And the 'good news' is the transmitter is at the antenna farm only a
few miles from here so should be able to receive the signal without too
much problem.
Very good.... :)Make sure have working batteries.....
You've already been working on that... :)
True, the west of the Mississippi stations should be starting with K...
My guess would be that since WOC and WHO were able to keep their W,
being ancient stations (and interesting that they didn't just add a K
to those callsigns, since they are also odd being only 3 letters),
WLLR, being a part of WOC actually, was allowed to use the W as well...
Something like that. And the call signs were originally three
letters: WBZ in Boston comes to mind, seems like there's one in NYC.
And of course a bunch scattered throughout the country. ...Who'da
thought the need for more than WAA through WZZ!
Surprise, surprise.... ;) Once there were any stations, everyYup, or even same/similar formats: "I can do it better!".
locality would want their own.... and then there would be more than
one, competing with different formats.... <G>
Probably a slight variation on the original formats, though...
One is Top 40, another is Top 40 plus the 10 below them.... <G>
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 11-Apr-2020 09:14 <=-
Richard has problems with Google trying to think for him... it often
guesses wrong.... ;0
All depends (as usual!). Most people probably want/mean a site local
to them. I've also entered partially technical terms which Google
sometimes tries to dumb-down. It also seems the "+" and "-" options
don't work, or work a lot less definitive than they used to. Thinking
of "Vienna +1040" should have given me addresses in the 4th District
(postal code 1040) but combined with other search terms came through
rather a mish-mash.
Well, actually, I don't generally do any Google searches, so I've notThose mysterious magic spells!
learned any of the tricks that are supposed to work... the options,
the Boolean searches, etc.... I've heard tell of them, and watched
other people use them... but don't do them myself.... ;)
I'm roughly in the center, on the bottom of the 'elbow' where Iowa
juts into Illinois. Frequently the browsers will think I'm in
Burlington all the way to the south, Dubuque all the way to the north,
Clinton - the next county and city north. Usually Davenport, the next
city over and has a major Internet connection (whatever it's called).
At least Davenport makes a lot better sense than the other options... ;)
True. OTOH maybe like with telephone lines it connects me into the
Internet where less busy: then Clinton would make sense as the next
one; Dubuque and Burlington are more 'extremes' as far as distance is
concerned. <shrug> As long as it works!
It's all Wizard to me... <G><chuckle> I partially learned from troubleshooting over the decades:
is the problem something here or elsewhere? The elsewhere sort of ties
in with remembering where it thinks I am. And possibly also "why am I getting the wrong site?" ==> Lowe's Burlington instead of Lowe's Davenport. And some of the problem I bring on to myself by using
private browsing: I just want to look around, don't bother me sending
me a ton of e-mails!
the state). Finally find WOC-AM and WLLR-FM are the designated local
primary stations -- they monitor WHO-AM in Des Moines which is up one
level. Whew!
So now you know for the next emergency (weather or otherwise)....
And the 'good news' is the transmitter is at the antenna farm only a
few miles from here so should be able to receive the signal without too
much problem.
Very good.... :)
Make sure have working batteries.....
You've already been working on that... :)Now if the Sun would shine.... Overcast today with a 50-50 chance of rain, maybe a thunderstorm tomorrow is Easter Sunday and 80% chance of rain. Monday might snow but probably not acumulate.....
And of course a bunch scattered throughout the country. ...Who'da
thought the need for more than WAA through WZZ!
Surprise, surprise.... ;) Once there were any stations, every
locality would want their own.... and then there would be more than
one, competing with different formats.... <G>
Yup, or even same/similar formats: "I can do it better!".
Probably a slight variation on the original formats, though..."All Brahms, all the time! This is WZZZ!"
One is Top 40, another is Top 40 plus the 10 below them.... <G>
Richard has problems with Google trying to think for him... it often
guesses wrong.... ;0
All depends (as usual!). Most people probably want/mean a site local
to them. I've also entered partially technical terms which Google
sometimes tries to dumb-down. It also seems the "+" and "-" options
don't work, or work a lot less definitive than they used to. Thinking
of "Vienna +1040" should have given me addresses in the 4th District
(postal code 1040) but combined with other search terms came through
rather a mish-mash.
Well, actually, I don't generally do any Google searches, so I've notThose mysterious magic spells!
learned any of the tricks that are supposed to work... the options,
the Boolean searches, etc.... I've heard tell of them, and watched
other people use them... but don't do them myself.... ;)
Exactly. :)
the state). Finally find WOC-AM and WLLR-FM are the designated local
primary stations -- they monitor WHO-AM in Des Moines which is up one
level. Whew!
So now you know for the next emergency (weather or otherwise)....
And the 'good news' is the transmitter is at the antenna farm only a
few miles from here so should be able to receive the signal without too
much problem.
Very good.... :)
Make sure have working batteries.....
You've already been working on that... :)Now if the Sun would shine.... Overcast today with a 50-50 chance of rain, maybe a thunderstorm tomorrow is Easter Sunday and 80% chance of rain. Monday might snow but probably not acumulate.....
We've had similar weather off and on... this morning there was
snow on the ground, and it's still quite chilly (high to be
around 40)... but at least the sun is shining brightly in through
my window at the moment... :)
And of course a bunch scattered throughout the country. ...Who'da
thought the need for more than WAA through WZZ!
Surprise, surprise.... ;) Once there were any stations, every
locality would want their own.... and then there would be more than
one, competing with different formats.... <G>
Yup, or even same/similar formats: "I can do it better!".
Probably a slight variation on the original formats, though..."All Brahms, all the time! This is WZZZ!"
One is Top 40, another is Top 40 plus the 10 below them.... <G>
That's not quite fair...! Most of Brahms's music is lively... :)
Take for instance his Hungarian Rhapsodies... or the Academic
Overture, or, for that matter, the fast movements of his
symphonies... :) And so forth... ;)
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Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 23-Apr-2020 10:33 <=-
Well, actually, I don't generally do any Google searches, so I've not
learned any of the tricks that are supposed to work... the options,
the Boolean searches, etc.... I've heard tell of them, and watched
other people use them... but don't do them myself.... ;)
Those mysterious magic spells!
Exactly. :)All goes back to what is needed. Here I (try to!) look up stuff to
figure out why something isn't working. Sometimes I don't know the correct term, sometimes I do but other might not so Google (and
probably the other search engines) try to help by guessing and
including those.
So now you know for the next emergency (weather or otherwise)....
And the 'good news' is the transmitter is at the antenna farm only a
few miles from here so should be able to receive the signal without too
much problem.
Very good.... :)
Make sure have working batteries.....
You've already been working on that... :)
Now if the Sun would shine.... Overcast today with a 50-50 chance of
rain, maybe a thunderstorm tomorrow is Easter Sunday and 80% chance of
rain. Monday might snow but probably not acumulate.....
We've had similar weather off and on... this morning there was snowMost of yesterday was coolish in the 50's and low 60's and then early evening was 76ø! They're talking about upper 80's and maybe low 90's
on the ground, and it's still quite chilly (high to be around 40)...
but at least the sun is shining brightly in through my window at the
moment... :)
the middle of next week. A little too early for that but I'll enjoy
it!
And of course a bunch scattered throughout the country. ...Who'da
thought the need for more than WAA through WZZ!
Surprise, surprise.... ;) Once there were any stations, every
locality would want their own.... and then there would be more than
one, competing with different formats.... <G>
Yup, or even same/similar formats: "I can do it better!".
Probably a slight variation on the original formats, though...
One is Top 40, another is Top 40 plus the 10 below them.... <G>
"All Brahms, all the time! This is WZZZ!"
That's not quite fair...! Most of Brahms's music is lively... :)Those are played on WEEE!! <g>
Take for instance his Hungarian Rhapsodies... or the Academic Overture,
or, for that matter, the fast movements of his symphonies... :) And
so forth... ;)
Well, actually, I don't generally do any Google searches, so I've not
learned any of the tricks that are supposed to work... the options,
the Boolean searches, etc.... I've heard tell of them, and watched
other people use them... but don't do them myself.... ;)
Those mysterious magic spells!
Exactly. :)All goes back to what is needed. Here I (try to!) look up stuff to
figure out why something isn't working. Sometimes I don't know the correct term, sometimes I do but other might not so Google (and
probably the other search engines) try to help by guessing and
including those.
And if it guesses intelligently, yes, it might end up helpful...
;) Richard uses Duck, Duck, GO usually.... has better results
with that....
So now you know for the next emergency (weather or otherwise)....
too BM>>>> much problem.And the 'good news' is the transmitter is at the antenna farm only a
few miles from here so should be able to receive the signal without
Very good.... :)
Make sure have working batteries.....
You've already been working on that... :)
Now if the Sun would shine.... Overcast today with a 50-50 chance of
rain, maybe a thunderstorm tomorrow is Easter Sunday and 80% chance of
rain. Monday might snow but probably not acumulate.....
We've had similar weather off and on... this morning there was snowMost of yesterday was coolish in the 50's and low 60's and then early evening was 76ø! They're talking about upper 80's and maybe low 90's
on the ground, and it's still quite chilly (high to be around 40)...
but at least the sun is shining brightly in through my window at the
moment... :)
the middle of next week. A little too early for that but I'll enjoy
it!
Thankfully we've not been getting 80s or 90s... high 70s is fine
enough for me.... ;)
And of course a bunch scattered throughout the country. ...Who'da
thought the need for more than WAA through WZZ!
Surprise, surprise.... ;) Once there were any stations, every
locality would want their own.... and then there would be more than
one, competing with different formats.... <G>
Yup, or even same/similar formats: "I can do it better!".
Probably a slight variation on the original formats, though...
One is Top 40, another is Top 40 plus the 10 below them.... <G>
"All Brahms, all the time! This is WZZZ!"
That's not quite fair...! Most of Brahms's music is lively... :)Those are played on WEEE!! <g>
Take for instance his Hungarian Rhapsodies... or the Academic Overture,
or, for that matter, the fast movements of his symphonies... :) And
so forth... ;)
Yeah, right... ;)
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 01-May-2020 09:05 <=-
Those mysterious magic spells!
Exactly. :)All goes back to what is needed. Here I (try to!) look up stuff to
figure out why something isn't working. Sometimes I don't know the correct term, sometimes I do but other might not so Google (and
probably the other search engines) try to help by guessing and
including those.
And if it guesses intelligently, yes, it might end up helpful... ;) Richard uses Duck, Duck, GO usually... has better results with that...
I should try DuckDuckGo again -- admittedly one of those deals where
I'm comfortable with Google, most of the time it gives what I'm looking for and when it doesn't more of an issue where I don't have the right
or enough information. Thinking of when I was trying to find where my Aunt was at the Kurhaus.
Make sure have working batteries.....
You've already been working on that... :)
Now if the Sun would shine.... Overcast today with a 50-50 chance of
rain, maybe a thunderstorm tomorrow is Easter Sunday and 80% chance of
rain. Monday might snow but probably not acumulate.....
We've had similar weather off and on... this morning there was snow
on the ground, and it's still quite chilly (high to be around 40)...
but at least the sun is shining brightly in through my window at the
moment... :)
Most of yesterday was coolish in the 50's and low 60's and then early
evening was 76ø! They're talking about upper 80's and maybe low 90's
the middle of next week. A little too early for that but I'll enjoy
it!
Thankfully we've not been getting 80s or 90s... high 70s is fineIt's supposed to get into the low 70's today (May 1) and possibly low
enough for me.... ;)
80's tomorrow. Then cooler and more normal next week. Planning on
doing some yard work today as have Autumn tomorrow.
Surprise, surprise.... ;) Once there were any stations, every
locality would want their own.... and then there would be more than
one, competing with different formats.... <G>
Yup, or even same/similar formats: "I can do it better!".
Probably a slight variation on the original formats, though...
One is Top 40, another is Top 40 plus the 10 below them.... <G>
"All Brahms, all the time! This is WZZZ!"
That's not quite fair...! Most of Brahms's music is lively... :)
Take for instance his Hungarian Rhapsodies... or the Academic Overture,
or, for that matter, the fast movements of his symphonies... :) And
so forth... ;)
Those are played on WEEE!! <g>
Yeah, right... ;)No?! <g> ...Wonder if they play _The Flight of the Bumblebee_ on
WBZ?! (I know it for Channel 4, WBZ-FM is sports radio format, WBZ-AM
is talk radio.)
Those mysterious magic spells!
Exactly. :)All goes back to what is needed. Here I (try to!) look up stuff to
figure out why something isn't working. Sometimes I don't know the correct term, sometimes I do but other might not so Google (and
probably the other search engines) try to help by guessing and
including those.
And if it guesses intelligently, yes, it might end up helpful... ;) Richard uses Duck, Duck, GO usually... has better results with that...
I should try DuckDuckGo again -- admittedly one of those deals where
I'm comfortable with Google, most of the time it gives what I'm looking for and when it doesn't more of an issue where I don't have the right
or enough information. Thinking of when I was trying to find where my Aunt was at the Kurhaus.
Dunno... I don't generally do searches at all... and I'm sure
that one tends to be most comfortable with what one usuall
uses...
Make sure have working batteries.....
You've already been working on that... :)
Now if the Sun would shine.... Overcast today with a 50-50 chance of
rain, maybe a thunderstorm tomorrow is Easter Sunday and 80% chance of
rain. Monday might snow but probably not acumulate.....
We've had similar weather off and on... this morning there was snow
on the ground, and it's still quite chilly (high to be around 40)...
but at least the sun is shining brightly in through my window at the
moment... :)
Most of yesterday was coolish in the 50's and low 60's and then early
evening was 76ø! They're talking about upper 80's and maybe low 90's
the middle of next week. A little too early for that but I'll enjoy
it!
Thankfully we've not been getting 80s or 90s... high 70s is fineIt's supposed to get into the low 70's today (May 1) and possibly low
enough for me.... ;)
80's tomorrow. Then cooler and more normal next week. Planning on
doing some yard work today as have Autumn tomorrow.
Hope you got things accomplished... ;) We're back to freeze
warnings almost every night this week... and I did hear thunder
this afternoon...
Surprise, surprise.... ;) Once there were any stations, every
locality would want their own.... and then there would be more than
one, competing with different formats.... <G>
Yup, or even same/similar formats: "I can do it better!".
Probably a slight variation on the original formats, though...
One is Top 40, another is Top 40 plus the 10 below them.... <G>
"All Brahms, all the time! This is WZZZ!"
That's not quite fair...! Most of Brahms's music is lively... :)
Take for instance his Hungarian Rhapsodies... or the Academic Overture,
or, for that matter, the fast movements of his symphonies... :) And
so forth... ;)
Those are played on WEEE!! <g>
Yeah, right... ;)No?! <g> ...Wonder if they play _The Flight of the Bumblebee_ on
WBZ?! (I know it for Channel 4, WBZ-FM is sports radio format, WBZ-AM
is talk radio.)
They could steal it to play under their station IDs... ;)
... I am a mental tourist, My mind wanders!
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 08-May-2020 09:32 <=-
I should try DuckDuckGo again -- admittedly one of those deals where
I'm comfortable with Google, most of the time it gives what I'm looking
for and when it doesn't more of an issue where I don't have the right
or enough information. Thinking of when I was trying to find where my
Aunt was at the Kurhaus.
Dunno... I don't generally do searches at all... and I'm sure that oneOddly yes <g>: one tends to use what one is comfortable with, so here Google and I have trained each other. For some searches Google is probably best while for others a different search engine would be
tends to be most comfortable with what one usually uses...
better. Usually by the time I realize I maybe should try another search engine I'm tired/frustrated/need a break, etc. and eventually either try something different (ask a question, for example) or decide it wasn't
that important. Though usually is find the answer in a different way.
Make sure have working batteries.....
You've already been working on that... :)
Now if the Sun would shine.... Overcast today with a 50-50 chance of
rain, maybe a thunderstorm tomorrow is Easter Sunday and 80% chance of
rain. Monday might snow but probably not acumulate.....
We've had similar weather off and on... this morning there was snow
on the ground, and it's still quite chilly (high to be around 40)...
but at least the sun is shining brightly in through my window at the
moment... :)
Most of yesterday was coolish in the 50's and low 60's and then early
evening was 76ø! They're talking about upper 80's and maybe low 90's
the middle of next week. A little too early for that but I'll enjoy
it!
Thankfully we've not been getting 80s or 90s... high 70s is fine
enough for me.... ;)
It's supposed to get into the low 70's today (May 1) and possibly low
80's tomorrow. Then cooler and more normal next week. Planning on
doing some yard work today as have Autumn tomorrow.
Hope you got things accomplished... ;) We're back to freeze warningsI'm not recalling but seems sufficient done to be satisfied. Tomorrow morning (the Saturday before Mother's Day) the predicted low is now
almost every night this week, and I did hear thunder this afternoon...
30ø (one degree lower than yesterday's forecast). Right now looks nice and sunny and inviting out there: 44ø with 10 MPH winds + whatever the gusts are. Not quite as inviting!
Surprise, surprise.... ;) Once there were any stations, every
locality would want their own.... and then there would be more than
one, competing with different formats.... <G>
Yup, or even same/similar formats: "I can do it better!".
Probably a slight variation on the original formats, though...
One is Top 40, another is Top 40 plus the 10 below them.... <G>
"All Brahms, all the time! This is WZZZ!"
That's not quite fair...! Most of Brahms's music is lively... :)
Take for instance his Hungarian Rhapsodies... or the Academic Overture,
or, for that matter, the fast movements of his symphonies... :) And
so forth... ;)
Those are played on WEEE!! <g>
Yeah, right... ;)
No?! <g> ...Wonder if they play _The Flight of the Bumblebee_ on
WBZ?! (I know it for Channel 4, WBZ-FM is sports radio format, WBZ-AM
is talk radio.)
They could steal it to play under their station IDs... ;)Wonder if they've thought about it?
... I am a mental tourist, My mind wanders!Heck, my mind sometimes wanders so far it needs a passport!
I should try DuckDuckGo again -- admittedly one of those deals where
I'm comfortable with Google, most of the time it gives what I'm looking
for and when it doesn't more of an issue where I don't have the right
or enough information. Thinking of when I was trying to find where my
Aunt was at the Kurhaus.
Dunno... I don't generally do searches at all... and I'm sure that oneOddly yes <g>: one tends to use what one is comfortable with, so here Google and I have trained each other. For some searches Google is probably best while for others a different search engine would be
tends to be most comfortable with what one usually uses...
better. Usually by the time I realize I maybe should try another search engine I'm tired/frustrated/need a break, etc. and eventually either try something different (ask a question, for example) or decide it wasn't
that important. Though usually is find the answer in a different way.
My usual way of doing a search is to ask Richard to do it for
me... <G>
Surprise, surprise.... ;) Once there were any stations, every
locality would want their own.... and then there would be more than
one, competing with different formats.... <G>
Yup, or even same/similar formats: "I can do it better!".
Probably a slight variation on the original formats, though...
One is Top 40, another is Top 40 plus the 10 below them.... <G>
"All Brahms, all the time! This is WZZZ!"
Overture, NB>>>> or, for that matter, the fast movements of his symphonies... :) And NB>>>> so forth... ;)That's not quite fair...! Most of Brahms's music is lively... :)
Take for instance his Hungarian Rhapsodies... or the Academic
Those are played on WEEE!! <g>
Yeah, right... ;)
No?! <g> ...Wonder if they play _The Flight of the Bumblebee_ on
WBZ?! (I know it for Channel 4, WBZ-FM is sports radio format, WBZ-AM
is talk radio.)
They could steal it to play under their station IDs... ;)Wonder if they've thought about it?
Only if someone in the loop knows about the piece... and maybe it
was vetoed as being too obscure... <G>
... I am a mental tourist, My mind wanders!Heck, my mind sometimes wanders so far it needs a passport!
With special visas as well, eh...? ;)
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 15-May-2020 10:27 <=-
I should try DuckDuckGo again -- admittedly one of those deals where
I'm comfortable with Google, most of the time it gives what I'm looking
for and when it doesn't more of an issue where I don't have the right
or enough information. Thinking of when I was trying to find where my
Aunt was at the Kurhaus.
Dunno... I don't generally do searches at all... and I'm sure that one
tends to be most comfortable with what one usually uses...
Oddly yes <g>: one tends to use what one is comfortable with, so here
Google and I have trained each other. For some searches Google is
probably best while for others a different search engine would be
better. Usually by the time I realize I maybe should try another search
engine I'm tired/frustrated/need a break, etc. and eventually either try
something different (ask a question, for example) or decide it wasn't
that important. Though usually is find the answer in a different way.
My usual way of doing a search is to ask Richard to do it for me... <G>That is one option!
I always hated those Windows error messages which have "or ask your
system administrator for help". I _am_ the 'System Administrator'!!!
...Wonder if they play _The Flight of the Bumblebee_ on WBZ?! (I know
it for Channel 4, WBZ-FM is sports radio format, WBZ-AM is talk radio.)
They could steal it to play under their station IDs... ;)
Wonder if they've thought about it?
Only if someone in the loop knows about the piece... and maybe itPossibly! Or maybe Authur Fidler prefered WGBH over WBZ when in town.
was vetoed as being too obscure... <G>
(Now there's a bit of open-obscurity! I'll put 'the answer' at the
end.)
... I am a mental tourist, My mind wanders!
Heck, my mind sometimes wanders so far it needs a passport!
With special visas as well, eh...? ;)Maybe special MasterCards and Discovers as well!
The open-obscurity: former conductor of the Boston Pops, Channel 2 (Boston) in the NTSC/pre-digital days, Channel 4 (Boston), and Boston.
Curiously, recently I've been seeing billboard ads forI should try DuckDuckGo again -- admittedly one of those deals where
DuckDuckGo, as well as hearing them be a sponsor for NPR... ;)
They are pushing one of their other strong points, the privacy
issue, since they don't track where you go...
I always hated those Windows error messages which have "or ask your
system administrator for help". I _am_ the 'System Administrator'!!!
Yes, that does make it harder for you... ;)
...Wonder if they play _The Flight of the Bumblebee_ on WBZ?! (I know
it for Channel 4, WBZ-FM is sports radio format, WBZ-AM is talk radio.)
They could steal it to play under their station IDs... ;)
Wonder if they've thought about it?
Only if someone in the loop knows about the piece... and maybe itPossibly! Or maybe Authur Fidler prefered WGBH over WBZ when in town.
was vetoed as being too obscure... <G>
That would be Arthur Fiedler, actually... ;) And he probably did
prefer WGBH as the classical station... ;)
(Now there's a bit of open-obscurity! I'll put 'the answer' at the
end.)
Yup. ;)
... I am a mental tourist, My mind wanders!
Heck, my mind sometimes wanders so far it needs a passport!
With special visas as well, eh...? ;)Maybe special MasterCards and Discovers as well!
Only if you are planning to charge an humungous amount.... ;)
The open-obscurity: former conductor of the Boston Pops, Channel 2 (Boston) in the NTSC/pre-digital days, Channel 4 (Boston), and Boston.
Right... I'm familiar with Fiedler and the Boston Pops, also with
WGBH as the station that broadcasts the Boston Pops and the
BSO... :)
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 30-May-2020 11:30 <=-
I should try DuckDuckGo again -- admittedly one of those deals where
Curiously, recently I've been seeing billboard ads for DuckDuckGo, asThey don't; everyone else does. <g> (Not a slam at DuckDuckGo:
well as hearing them be a sponsor for NPR... ;) They are pushing one
of their other strong points, the privacy issue, since they don't track
where you go...
everyone tracks no matter what search engine.)
I always hated those Windows error messages which have "or ask your
system administrator for help". I _am_ the 'System Administrator'!!!
Yes, that does make it harder for you... ;)To me it's sort of a cop out: sure, the administrator can control
access and what is installed but the message doesn't tell him (or her) anything useful either, like a 0x code or some THIS_IS_WHERE_THE_BOOBOO_OCCURRED verbiage. And yes, I have received
some cryptic errors from Linux; at least it doesn't tell me to go ask
for help.
...Wonder if they play _The Flight of the Bumblebee_ on WBZ?! (I know
it for Channel 4, WBZ-FM is sports radio format, WBZ-AM is talk radio.)
They could steal it to play under their station IDs... ;)
Wonder if they've thought about it?
Only if someone in the loop knows about the piece... and maybe it
was vetoed as being too obscure... <G>
Possibly! Or maybe Authur Fidler prefered WGBH over WBZ when in town.
That would be Arthur Fiedler, actually... ;) And he probably didOops -- there was a local company with 'Fidler' in the name.
prefer WGBH as the classical station... ;)
... I am a mental tourist, My mind wanders!
Heck, my mind sometimes wanders so far it needs a passport!
With special visas as well, eh...? ;)
Maybe special MasterCards and Discovers as well!
Only if you are planning to charge an humungous amount.... ;)We'll put a bunch on this card, and a bunch on this other card.....
The open-obscurity: former conductor of the Boston Pops, Channel 2 (Boston) in the NTSC/pre-digital days, Channel 4 (Boston), and Boston.
Right... I'm familiar with Fiedler and the Boston Pops, also with
WGBH as the station that broadcasts the Boston Pops and the BSO... :)
Not to be confused with the Fidlers of Davenport!
I should try DuckDuckGo again -- admittedly one of those deals where
Curiously, recently I've been seeing billboard ads for DuckDuckGo, asThey don't; everyone else does. <g> (Not a slam at DuckDuckGo:
well as hearing them be a sponsor for NPR... ;) They are pushing one
of their other strong points, the privacy issue, since they don't track
where you go...
everyone tracks no matter what search engine.)
Ah, but they dump the cookies along the way, and don't let the
others track the way they'd like to...
I always hated those Windows error messages which have "or ask your
system administrator for help". I _am_ the 'System Administrator'!!!
Yes, that does make it harder for you... ;)To me it's sort of a cop out: sure, the administrator can control
access and what is installed but the message doesn't tell him (or her) anything useful either, like a 0x code or some THIS_IS_WHERE_THE_BOOBOO_OCCURRED verbiage. And yes, I have received
some cryptic errors from Linux; at least it doesn't tell me to go ask
for help.
If something like that showed up on my screen, I'd just yell for
the Wizard.... he's the System Administrator for this
household... and generally does have a clue... or can figure it
out...
... I am a mental tourist, My mind wanders!
Heck, my mind sometimes wanders so far it needs a passport!
With special visas as well, eh...? ;)
Maybe special MasterCards and Discovers as well!
Only if you are planning to charge an humungous amount.... ;)We'll put a bunch on this card, and a bunch on this other card.....
Balance it out... but one still has to pay eventually.. ;)
Hmmm... OTOH I do frequently use 'Private Mode' of Firefox. Probably similar though not the same.
I'm a Gemini so I yell for my other self. <g>
Hmmm... OTOH I do frequently use 'Private Mode' of Firefox. Probably similar though not the same.
I didn't use that, but I have DuckDuckGO as the search engine.
Google and the others are too nosey.
I'm a Gemini so I yell for my other self. <g>
I said to myself today..."Self...". But, I talk to myself when
I need expert advice. <G>
... ALGORITHM - Tipper's birth control method.
I don't know. Not agreeing, not disagreeing. There are advantages to being somewhat tracked: I want Smith's Repair Service here in Davenport and not in Seattle. ...I've done research and web wanderings for
Vienna, Austria, but not sure how 'nosey' it gets as I usually add "Austria" or the search is semi-pointing to over there anyway (how many 'Traungasse's are there in the U.S.?)
And I might be a little less concerned with being tracked as I in all
of my jobs since High School it has been advantageous for me to leave a paper trail. Not saying Google and others might be too inquisitive,
but for what I do it has been more of an advantage than not. That
opinion could of course change.
I'm a Gemini so I yell for my other self. <g>
I said to myself today..."Self...". But, I talk to myself when
I need expert advice. <G>
Sounds like a situation of a bunch of Yes Men to me!
... ALGORITHM - Tipper's birth control method.
Wonder if she could look that information up on his Internet?!
I don't know. Not agreeing, not disagreeing. There are advantages to being somewhat tracked: I want Smith's Repair Service here in Davenport and not in Seattle. ...I've done research and web wanderings for
Vienna, Austria, but not sure how 'nosey' it gets as I usually add "Austria" or the search is semi-pointing to over there anyway (how many 'Traungasse's are there in the U.S.?)
Well, you really have to know what you're looking for, as some businesses or areas have the same or similar names in different
locations. I noted that there was a town in South Dakota called
Hot Springs, just like in Arkansas. I was talking to the local
Skywarn Coordinator via ham radio, and mentioned that "Doppler
Radar noted a tornado near Hot Springs, moving northeast at 30
mph". He about crapped his pants when he asked "What??!!"...and I
said "Oh, I'm sorry...I should've said 'South Dakota'". I thought
he was going to skin me alive. <G>
And I might be a little less concerned with being tracked as I in all
of my jobs since High School it has been advantageous for me to leave a paper trail. Not saying Google and others might be too inquisitive,
but for what I do it has been more of an advantage than not. That
opinion could of course change.
The ads for DuckDuckGo is that they were searching for a
product, or on illnesses...and now, they were getting ads for the products, or embarrassing medical conditions.
I'm a Gemini so I yell for my other self. <g>
I said to myself today..."Self...". But, I talk to myself when
I need expert advice. <G>
Sounds like a situation of a bunch of Yes Men to me!
And, like Dumbo, they work for peanuts. <G>
But, while my Zodiac sign is Aries, my true sign is SLIPPERY
WHEN WET. <G>
Radar noted a tornado near Hot Springs, moving northeast at 30
mph". He about crapped his pants when he asked "What??!!"...and I
said "Oh, I'm sorry...I should've said 'South Dakota'". I thought
he was going to skin me alive. <G>
<ROTFL!> Yes, there can be some rather interesting occurances with assumptions and partial information. A lot of duplicate place names.
"Are you suferring from <condition>?"
"No, I'm rather enjoying it, thank you!"
And, like Dumbo, they work for peanuts. <G>
Well they work for some sort of nut!
But, while my Zodiac sign is Aries, my true sign is SLIPPERY
WHEN WET. <G>
I'm thinking the old rock group Wet Willie.
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 06-Jun-2020 10:32 <=-
I should try DuckDuckGo again -- admittedly one of those deals where
Curiously, recently I've been seeing billboard ads for DuckDuckGo, as
well as hearing them be a sponsor for NPR... ;) They are pushing one
of their other strong points, the privacy issue, since they don't
track where you go...
They don't; everyone else does. <g> (Not a slam at DuckDuckGo:
everyone tracks no matter what search engine.)
Ah, but they dump the cookies along the way, and don't let the othersHmmm... OTOH I do frequently use 'Private Mode' of Firefox. Probably similar though not the same.
track the way they'd like to...
I always hated those Windows error messages which have "or ask your
system administrator for help". I _am_ the 'System Administrator'!!!
Yes, that does make it harder for you... ;)
To me it's sort of a cop out: sure, the administrator can control
access and what is installed but the message doesn't tell him (or her)
anything useful either, like a 0x code or some
THIS_IS_WHERE_THE_BOOBOO_OCCURRED verbiage. And yes, I have received
some cryptic errors from Linux; at least it doesn't tell me to go ask
for help.
If something like that showed up on my screen, I'd just yell for theI'm a Gemini so I yell for my other self. <g>
Wizard.... he's the System Administrator for this household... and
generally does have a clue... or can figure it out...
... I am a mental tourist, My mind wanders!
Heck, my mind sometimes wanders so far it needs a passport!
With special visas as well, eh...? ;)
Maybe special MasterCards and Discovers as well!
Only if you are planning to charge an humungous amount.... ;)
We'll put a bunch on this card, and a bunch on this other card.....
Balance it out... but one still has to pay eventually.. ;)Yup! Good news is I/we haven't had to play Bill Roulette ==> pay this
one but not some other.
... Anyone know what it is or how it works?
Radar noted a tornado near Hot Springs, moving northeast at 30
mph". He about crapped his pants when he asked "What??!!"...and I
said "Oh, I'm sorry...I should've said 'South Dakota'". I thought
he was going to skin me alive. <G>
<ROTFL!> Yes, there can be some rather interesting occurances with assumptions and partial information. A lot of duplicate place names.
Arkansas has a lot of these names, like El Paso, Houston, and
Austin, for openers.
I should try DuckDuckGo again -- admittedly one of those deals where
Curiously, recently I've been seeing billboard ads for DuckDuckGo, as
well as hearing them be a sponsor for NPR... ;) They are pushing one
of their other strong points, the privacy issue, since they don't
track where you go...
They don't; everyone else does. <g> (Not a slam at DuckDuckGo:
everyone tracks no matter what search engine.)
Ah, but they dump the cookies along the way, and don't let the othersHmmm... OTOH I do frequently use 'Private Mode' of Firefox. Probably similar though not the same.
track the way they'd like to...
I'd have to ask the Wizard on that... i'd guess not similar
enough...
I always hated those Windows error messages which have "or ask your
system administrator for help". I _am_ the 'System Administrator'!!!
Yes, that does make it harder for you... ;)
To me it's sort of a cop out: sure, the administrator can control
access and what is installed but the message doesn't tell him (or her)
anything useful either, like a 0x code or some
THIS_IS_WHERE_THE_BOOBOO_OCCURRED verbiage. And yes, I have received
some cryptic errors from Linux; at least it doesn't tell me to go ask
for help.
If something like that showed up on my screen, I'd just yell for theI'm a Gemini so I yell for my other self. <g>
Wizard.... he's the System Administrator for this household... and
generally does have a clue... or can figure it out...
Between the two of you, you can always figure things out, eh...?
;)
... I am a mental tourist, My mind wanders!
Heck, my mind sometimes wanders so far it needs a passport!
With special visas as well, eh...? ;)
Maybe special MasterCards and Discovers as well!
Only if you are planning to charge an humungous amount.... ;)
We'll put a bunch on this card, and a bunch on this other card.....
Balance it out... but one still has to pay eventually.. ;)Yup! Good news is I/we haven't had to play Bill Roulette ==> pay this
one but not some other.
Or use one to pay the next.... No, best to stay on top of things
right along and pay as you go, whether running things through
cards or not... :)
... Anyone know what it is or how it works?
Or cares....??? <G>
And Richard might not be familiar enough as he uses DuckDuckGo instead
of Firefox. ...Learning session for all!
We do sometimes confuse each other thoroughly!
Part of the bill-swamp might be the use of plastic along with the lack
of receipts. With cash had a physical symbol of coming ins and going outs. With credit cards there's a piece of plastic which doesn't
change other than getting worn-lookign after a while.
I remember when the store switched over to direct deposit: no physical paycheck to symbolize payment of the work I've done. Work work work
and nothing in return. Sure, the money was in my account, just I
didn't get to touch it like with the paper paycheck.
Black Box Time!
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 17-Jun-2020 08:11 <=-
I should try DuckDuckGo again -- admittedly one of those deals where
Curiously, recently I've been seeing billboard ads for DuckDuckGo, as
well as hearing them be a sponsor for NPR... ;) They are pushing one
of their other strong points, the privacy issue, since they don't
track where you go...
They don't; everyone else does. <g> (Not a slam at DuckDuckGo:
everyone tracks no matter what search engine.)
Ah, but they dump the cookies along the way, and don't let the others
track the way they'd like to...
Hmmm... OTOH I do frequently use 'Private Mode' of Firefox. Probably
similar though not the same.
I'd have to ask the Wizard on that... I'd guess not similar enough...And Richard might not be familiar enough as he uses DuckDuckGo instead
of Firefox. ...Learning session for all!
Heck, my mind sometimes wanders so far it needs a passport!
With special visas as well, eh...? ;)
Maybe special MasterCards and Discovers as well!
Only if you are planning to charge an humungous amount.... ;)
We'll put a bunch on this card, and a bunch on this other card.....
Balance it out... but one still has to pay eventually.. ;)
Yup! Good news is I/we haven't had to play Bill Roulette ==> pay this
one but not some other.
Or use one to pay the next.... No, best to stay on top of things rightYes, best to stay on top of things but not always possible: low-paying
along and pay as you go, whether running things through cards or not...
job -- "get a better paying one" isn't always possible due to various roadblocks or conveniences (if can't afford a car to get to the better-paying job....).
Part of the bill-swamp might be the use of plastic along with the lack
of receipts. With cash had a physical symbol of coming ins and going outs. With credit cards there's a piece of plastic which doesn't
change other than getting worn-looking after a while.
I remember when the store switched over to direct deposit: no physical
paycheck to symbolize payment of the work I've done. Work work work
and nothing in return. Sure, the money was in my account, just I
didn't get to touch it like with the paper paycheck.
I should try DuckDuckGo again -- admittedly one of those deals where
Curiously, recently I've been seeing billboard ads for DuckDuckGo, as
well as hearing them be a sponsor for NPR... ;) They are pushing one
of their other strong points, the privacy issue, since they don't
track where you go...
They don't; everyone else does. <g> (Not a slam at DuckDuckGo:
everyone tracks no matter what search engine.)
Ah, but they dump the cookies along the way, and don't let the others
track the way they'd like to...
Hmmm... OTOH I do frequently use 'Private Mode' of Firefox. Probably
similar though not the same.
I'd have to ask the Wizard on that... I'd guess not similar enough...And Richard might not be familiar enough as he uses DuckDuckGo instead
of Firefox. ...Learning session for all!
He's checked out the alternatives from time to time, so probably
does know about it...
Heck, my mind sometimes wanders so far it needs a passport!
With special visas as well, eh...? ;)
Maybe special MasterCards and Discovers as well!
Only if you are planning to charge an humungous amount.... ;)
We'll put a bunch on this card, and a bunch on this other card.....
Balance it out... but one still has to pay eventually.. ;)
Yup! Good news is I/we haven't had to play Bill Roulette ==> pay this
one but not some other.
Or use one to pay the next.... No, best to stay on top of things rightYes, best to stay on top of things but not always possible: low-paying
along and pay as you go, whether running things through cards or not...
job -- "get a better paying one" isn't always possible due to various roadblocks or conveniences (if can't afford a car to get to the better-paying job....).
One has to be very careful in that sort of circumstance not to
let the card (or access to credit) be a trap....
Part of the bill-swamp might be the use of plastic along with the lack
of receipts. With cash had a physical symbol of coming ins and going outs. With credit cards there's a piece of plastic which doesn't
change other than getting worn-looking after a while.
At least if one keeps the receipts or at least closely monitors
the statements when they come, one should have a clue... but the
mindset that plastic isn't really money is easy enough to fall
into... until the bill comes and it's too big to pay off at
once...
I remember when the store switched over to direct deposit: no physicalA different psychological/mental impact.... ;)
paycheck to symbolize payment of the work I've done. Work work work
and nothing in return. Sure, the money was in my account, just I
didn't get to touch it like with the paper paycheck.
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 26-Jun-2020 15:53 <=-
Balance it out... but one still has to pay eventually.. ;)
Yup! Good news is I/we haven't had to play Bill Roulette ==> pay this
one but not some other.
Or use one to pay the next.... No, best to stay on top of things right
along and pay as you go, whether running things through cards or not...
Yes, best to stay on top of things but not always possible: low-paying
job -- "get a better paying one" isn't always possible due to various
roadblocks or conveniences (if can't afford a car to get to the
better-paying job....).
One has to be very careful in that sort of circumstance not to let theYes: Rule #1 is it is not 'free money': it does have to be paid back.
card (or access to credit) be a trap....
And the credit rules sometimes seem backwards: if you need to borrow
money you can't get the credit to do so; if you have the money and
don't need to borrow money they pester you to borrow!
Part of the bill-swamp might be the use of plastic along with the lack
of receipts. With cash had a physical symbol of coming ins and going
outs. With credit cards there's a piece of plastic which doesn't
change other than getting worn-looking after a while.
At least if one keeps the receipts or at least closely monitors theYup. People need to be taught (and more importantly realize) to
statements when they come, one should have a clue... but the mindset
that plastic isn't really money is easy enough to fall into... until
the bill comes and it's too big to pay off at once...
journal their income and outgo in some manner, IMO other than a pie
chart or list provided at the swipe of a finger or mouse click. My way
is to hand-write the numbers in the checkbook and a journal. Makes me more aware the numbers are attached to real money.
I remember when the store switched over to direct deposit: no physical
paycheck to symbolize payment of the work I've done. Work work work
and nothing in return. Sure, the money was in my account, just I
didn't get to touch it like with the paper paycheck.
A different psychological/mental impact.... ;)Yes: I was raised with paper so when "took that away" the link between work and payment was gone.
And the credit rules sometimes seem backwards: if you need to borrow
money you can't get the credit to do so; if you have the money and
don't need to borrow money they pester you to borrow!
The trick is to normally stay on top of things, only buying what
is well within one's means, so that one has the margin to get the
less accessible needs when they arise.... and be able to make any necessary payments on any debt that needs to be incurred... And
then, when you have the money and don't need to borrow, not to be
sucked in by the pesterers... ;)
I remember when the store switched over to direct deposit: no physical
paycheck to symbolize payment of the work I've done. Work work work
and nothing in return. Sure, the money was in my account, just I
didn't get to touch it like with the paper paycheck.
A different psychological/mental impact.... ;)Yes: I was raised with paper so when "took that away" the link between work and payment was gone.
That's when one needs to set up other ways of maintaining that
link mentally... whether between work and pay, or income and
outgo... :)
Yes. Was reading the other day what the article classified as poor
were constantly zinged: if no bank account the person gets charged $7 (article's number) for check cashing. So to use easy numbers their
$100 paycheck is now a little over $90. Pay a bill by buying a money order, there's a fee for that, further chipping away at that paycheck.
OTOH I get money (interest/dividend) because I have money in the bank/ credit union, get free checking (and whine about paying for a new box
of checks).....
Right. For me the handwritten entries in the journal seem to help with that linking.
Yes. Was reading the other day what the article classified as poor
were constantly zinged: if no bank account the person gets charged $7 (article's number) for check cashing. So to use easy numbers their
$100 paycheck is now a little over $90. Pay a bill by buying a money order, there's a fee for that, further chipping away at that paycheck.
Even they declared these Cash Advance places illegal, they
still do it. It's not worth it, for a 400% or more interest
charge.
OTOH I get money (interest/dividend) because I have money in the bank/ credit union, get free checking (and whine about paying for a new box
of checks).....
I have to pay for my checks, but thankfully, most of my
transactions are done electronically.
Right. For me the handwritten entries in the journal seem to help with that linking.
Now, if I could only read my poor handwriting in the check
register. <G>
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 05-Jul-2020 08:32 <=-
<Credit cards and finances stuff>
The trick is to normally stay on top of things, only buying what isYes. Was reading the other day what the article classified as poor
well within one's means, so that one has the margin to get the less
accessible needs when they arise... and be able to make any necessary
payments on any debt that needs to be incurred... And then, when you
have the money and don't need to borrow, not to be sucked in by the
pesterers... ;)
were constantly zinged: if no bank account the person gets charged $7 (article's number) for check cashing. So to use easy numbers their
$100 paycheck is now a little over $90. Pay a bill by buying a money order, there's a fee for that, further chipping away at that paycheck.
OTOH I get money (interest/dividend) because I have money in the bank/ credit union, get free checking (and whine about paying for a new box
of checks).....
I remember when the store switched over to direct deposit: no physical
paycheck to symbolize payment of the work I've done. Work work work
and nothing in return. Sure, the money was in my account, just I
didn't get to touch it like with the paper paycheck.
A different psychological/mental impact.... ;)
Yes: I was raised with paper so when "took that away" the link between
work and payment was gone.
That's when one needs to set up other ways of maintaining that linkRight. For me the handwritten entries in the journal seem to help
mentally... whether between work and pay, or income and outgo... :)
with that linking.
<Credit cards and finances stuff>
The trick is to normally stay on top of things, only buying what isYes. Was reading the other day what the article classified as poor
well within one's means, so that one has the margin to get the less
accessible needs when they arise... and be able to make any necessary
payments on any debt that needs to be incurred... And then, when you
have the money and don't need to borrow, not to be sucked in by the
pesterers... ;)
were constantly zinged: if no bank account the person gets charged $7 (article's number) for check cashing. So to use easy numbers their
$100 paycheck is now a little over $90. Pay a bill by buying a money order, there's a fee for that, further chipping away at that paycheck.
The commercial banks, even the small town ones, aren't set up to
be kind to the poor, what with their fees and monthly maintenance
charges when under some minimum amount (or without direct deposit
of pay or pension)... But that's where the credit unions come in
as a godsend to the poor... As long as one meets some basic
criteria (generally living or working in the area served by the
credit union), one can open a free checking account, no fees, and
for as little as a $1 deposit... So the person the article
referenced could deposit the paycheck into the account, and write
checks to pay the bills, no extra fees... And the FCU I use gives
a free box of checks when one opens the account... and a debit
card if one wishes, to access the account without checks... :)
OTOH I get money (interest/dividend) because I have money in the bank/ credit union, get free checking (and whine about paying for a new box
of checks).....
Credit unions are a much more friendly option... :) And the
accounts that I use a lot of checks for, I generally get my
checks mail-order at one of the discount places like Checks
Unlimited... their 4-box offers for new customers are a lot less
expensive than buying new checks through the bank or CU... :) It
takes me a long time to use up 4 boxes worth of checks... <G>
I remember when the store switched over to direct deposit: no physical
paycheck to symbolize payment of the work I've done. Work work work
and nothing in return. Sure, the money was in my account, just I
didn't get to touch it like with the paper paycheck.
A different psychological/mental impact.... ;)
Yes: I was raised with paper so when "took that away" the link between
work and payment was gone.
That's when one needs to set up other ways of maintaining that linkRight. For me the handwritten entries in the journal seem to help
mentally... whether between work and pay, or income and outgo... :)
with that linking.
So that works for you.. :) For me, it's usually sufficient to
enter the direct deposit into the bankbook... ;) And to keep up
with the various debits, checks, withdrawals etc into the
checkbook register... :)
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