January 4th: I'm back! Appears there some sort of problem with the
mailruns when rolled to 2020 -- two decade delay on Y2K?!
Richard just mentioned tonight that apparently some of the Y2K fixesI may have read the same article. Prior I hadn't heard anything; it
merely tossed the problem down the road 20 years.... maybe that
caught you...? He said that nothing that I use would be affected by
that, though.... :)
would have seemed there would have been some 'leak' there could be a problem.
Perhaps the authors of those kick-it-down-the-road fixes aren't
around any more or forgot it would eventually loom again... it
was, after all, 20 years ago....
(For the Y2K one I didn't do much other than screen print a
copy of my financial statements from on-line, have a little extra
cash, and make sure the cars were reasonably filled. I didn't think things would grind to a halt and if they did would be isolated cases
and fixed so running within a few days.)
There was a lot of hubbub before Y2K... and lots of people
scrambling to patch important stuff.... Richard didn't expect
much of a problem, either, but we did take the precaution to shut
down all the computers entirely before midnight, and wait a few
minutes after before turning things back on.... And then nothing happened... <G>
Yesterday it worked.
Today it is not working.
Windows is like that.
That's why I use DOS... <G> (and occasionally linux)(OK: had deleted what follows and made sense to leave in to go with
the above.)
... Workarounds are lifesavers... until they get waterlogged... ;)
And it's really bad when the patch has to be patched!
That's for sure.... <G>Years and years and years ago I used WordPerfect. Not cheap but
worked the way I wanted it to and had the functions I wanted and
whatever Microsoft offered didn't. Recall reading WordPerfect did a complete overhaul of their product about 2/3rds of the way into my
using them because there were so many patches and sub-sub-sub-routines, etc., it was causing a significant slowdown. So they started from scratch, rewrote the code, and came out with a much faster and better-running product.
Makes sense... :) Did they offer the new product at a discount
to their faithful customers that were still using the old
version...?
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 17-Jan-2020 09:36 <=-
January 4th: I'm back! Appears there some sort of problem with the
mailruns when rolled to 2020 -- two decade delay on Y2K?!
Richard just mentioned tonight that apparently some of the Y2K fixesI may have read the same article. Prior I hadn't heard anything; it
merely tossed the problem down the road 20 years.... maybe that caught
you...? He said that nothing that I use would be affected by that,
though.... :)
would have seemed there would have been some 'leak' there could be a problem.
Perhaps the authors of those kick-it-down-the-road fixes aren't
around any more or forgot it would eventually loom again... it
was, after all, 20 years ago....
I would guess a combination of all options. I didn't read anything; admittedly I'm not "in the loop" but usually read in the techier stuff
of potential problems.
(For the Y2K one I didn't do much other than screen print a
copy of my financial statements from on-line, have a little extra
cash, and make sure the cars were reasonably filled. I didn't think
things would grind to a halt and if they did would be isolated cases
and fixed so running within a few days.)
There was a lot of hubbub before Y2K... and lots of people scramblingI think I shut down overnight also -- don't recall: it was twenty
to patch important stuff.... Richard didn't expect much of a problem,
either, but we did take the precaution to shut down all the computers
entirely before midnight, and wait a few minutes after before turning
things back on.... And then nothing happened... <G>
years ago. <g> AFAICT all went smoothly here at the house, at the
store, elsewhere in the area.
... Workarounds are lifesavers... until they get waterlogged... ;)
And it's really bad when the patch has to be patched!
That's for sure.... <G>
Years and years and years ago I used WordPerfect. Not cheap but
worked the way I wanted it to and had the functions I wanted and
whatever Microsoft offered didn't. Recall reading WordPerfect did a
complete overhaul of their product about 2/3rds of the way into my
using them because there were so many patches and sub-sub-sub-routines,
etc., it was causing a significant slowdown. So they started from
scratch, rewrote the code, and came out with a much faster and
better-running product.
Makes sense... :) Did they offer the new product at a discount toI don't recall: that was probably more like forty years ago.
their faithful customers that were still using the old version...?
...Had to do a rescan of the TVs because of the "Repack" ==>
television stations moving their transmitting frequencies. Locally "Channel 6" had done it (finally) a month or so ago, with lots of notifications on-air and their website, including delays because of weather.
That left Chs. 8, 18, and 26. (Other stations not moving.) Ch 8 had
a handful of announcements it would be updating today (January 17th)
but seemed like their total announcments would have added up to what
Ch. 6 notified in one day. Never did see announcments for the other
two stations.
So Ch. 8 was "off the air" this morning, did my rescanning which
brought them back. Also found out later Chs. 18 and 26 had changed so locally the TV stations should be up-to-date.
January 4th: I'm back! Appears there some sort of problem with the
mailruns when rolled to 2020 -- two decade delay on Y2K?!
Richard just mentioned tonight that apparently some of the Y2K fixesI may have read the same article. Prior I hadn't heard anything; it
merely tossed the problem down the road 20 years.... maybe that caught
you...? He said that nothing that I use would be affected by that,
though.... :)
would have seemed there would have been some 'leak' there could be a problem.
Perhaps the authors of those kick-it-down-the-road fixes aren't
around any more or forgot it would eventually loom again... it
was, after all, 20 years ago....
I would guess a combination of all options. I didn't read anything; admittedly I'm not "in the loop" but usually read in the techier stuff
of potential problems.
I don't think that Richard had heard anything ahead of time,
either...
(For the Y2K one I didn't do much other than screen print a
copy of my financial statements from on-line, have a little extra
cash, and make sure the cars were reasonably filled. I didn't think
things would grind to a halt and if they did would be isolated cases
and fixed so running within a few days.)
There was a lot of hubbub before Y2K... and lots of people scramblingI think I shut down overnight also -- don't recall: it was twenty
to patch important stuff.... Richard didn't expect much of a problem,
either, but we did take the precaution to shut down all the computers
entirely before midnight, and wait a few minutes after before turning
things back on.... And then nothing happened... <G>
years ago. <g> AFAICT all went smoothly here at the house, at the
store, elsewhere in the area.
Yup, it was pretty much a non-event... Not that anybody I knew
was upset by that... it was more a relief... :)
... Workarounds are lifesavers... until they get waterlogged... ;)
And it's really bad when the patch has to be patched!
That's for sure.... <G>
Years and years and years ago I used WordPerfect. Not cheap but
worked the way I wanted it to and had the functions I wanted and
whatever Microsoft offered didn't. Recall reading WordPerfect did a
complete overhaul of their product about 2/3rds of the way into my
using them because there were so many patches and sub-sub-sub-routines,
etc., it was causing a significant slowdown. So they started from
scratch, rewrote the code, and came out with a much faster and
better-running product.
Makes sense... :) Did they offer the new product at a discount toI don't recall: that was probably more like forty years ago.
their faithful customers that were still using the old version...?
Must have seemed equitable to you at the time... otherwise, I'd
expect that you'd remember it more vividly... ;) Especially as
you kept using it for quite a while longer... ;)
...Had to do a rescan of the TVs because of the "Repack" ==>
television stations moving their transmitting frequencies. Locally "Channel 6" had done it (finally) a month or so ago, with lots of notifications on-air and their website, including delays because of weather.
That left Chs. 8, 18, and 26. (Other stations not moving.) Ch 8 had
a handful of announcements it would be updating today (January 17th)
but seemed like their total announcments would have added up to what
Ch. 6 notified in one day. Never did see announcments for the other
two stations.
So Ch. 8 was "off the air" this morning, did my rescanning which
brought them back. Also found out later Chs. 18 and 26 had changed so locally the TV stations should be up-to-date.
Ours happened a couple of months ago, I think.... I remember
Richard needing to rescan at one point, and lots of announcements
ahead of time on my radio station for the (PBS) TV's changing
transmitting frequency. And I think it affected all the stations
in our area....
Hi Nancy!
Ooo! Your message was #11111 here!
DARYL STOUT wrote to BARRY MARTIN <=-
Hi Nancy!
Ooo! Your message was #11111 here!
All for One, and One for All?? <G>
Ooo! Your message was #11111 here!
All for One, and One for All?? <G>
Or as the tagline says....
... 1 There's always one in every crowd.
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 24-Jan-2020 11:40 <=-
Ooo! Your message was #11111 here!
January 4th: I'm back! Appears there some sort of problem with the
mailruns when rolled to 2020 -- two decade delay on Y2K?!
Richard just mentioned tonight that apparently some of the Y2K fixes
merely tossed the problem down the road 20 years.... maybe that caught
you...? He said that nothing that I use would be affected by that,
though.... :)
I may have read the same article. Prior I hadn't heard anything; it
would have seemed there would have been some 'leak' there could be a
problem.
Perhaps the authors of those kick-it-down-the-road fixes aren't
around any more or forgot it would eventually loom again... it was,
after all, 20 years ago....
I would guess a combination of all options. I didn't read anything;
admittedly I'm not "in the loop" but usually read in the techier stuff
of potential problems.
I don't think that Richard had heard anything ahead of time, either...OK -- not that I'm concerned with being out of the loop, but nice to
know I was sort of caught unawares also.
(For the Y2K one I didn't do much other than screen print a
copy of my financial statements from on-line, have a little extra
cash, and make sure the cars were reasonably filled. I didn't think
things would grind to a halt and if they did would be isolated cases
and fixed so running within a few days.)
There was a lot of hubbub before Y2K... and lots of people scrambling
to patch important stuff.... Richard didn't expect much of a problem,
either, but we did take the precaution to shut down all the computers
entirely before midnight, and wait a few minutes after before turning
things back on.... And then nothing happened... <G>
I think I shut down overnight also -- don't recall: it was twenty
years ago. <g> AFAICT all went smoothly here at the house, at the
store, elsewhere in the area.
Yup, it was pretty much a non-event... Not that anybody I knew wasI don't know of anyone who was in a panic either. Thinking back
upset by that... it was more a relief... :)
seemed most did about the same as I did: get some verification
paperwork together, have some money, make sure the gas tank wasn't empty.... As you said, ended up pretty much being a non-event,
probbaly because of all the behind-the-scenes work going on to make
sure it didn't occur.
And it's really bad when the patch has to be patched!
That's for sure.... <G>
Years and years and years ago I used WordPerfect. Not cheap but
worked the way I wanted it to and had the functions I wanted and
whatever Microsoft offered didn't. Recall reading WordPerfect did a
complete overhaul of their product about 2/3rds of the way into my
using them because there were so many patches and sub-sub-sub-routines,
etc., it was causing a significant slowdown. So they started from
scratch, rewrote the code, and came out with a much faster and
better-running product.
Makes sense... :) Did they offer the new product at a discount to
their faithful customers that were still using the old version...?
I don't recall: that was probably more like forty years ago.
Must have seemed equitable to you at the time... otherwise, I'd expectRight: probably more along an upgrade price as opposed to a brand new version price.
that you'd remember it more vividly... ;) Especially as you kept
using it for quite a while longer... ;)
...Had to do a rescan of the TVs because of the "Repack" ==>
television stations moving their transmitting frequencies. Locally
"Channel 6" had done it (finally) a month or so ago, with lots of
notifications on-air and their website, including delays because of
weather.
That left Chs. 8, 18, and 26. (Other stations not moving.) Ch 8 had
a handful of announcements it would be updating today (January 17th)
but seemed like their total announcments would have added up to what
Ch. 6 notified in one day. Never did see announcments for the other
two stations.
So Ch. 8 was "off the air" this morning, did my rescanning which
brought them back. Also found out later Chs. 18 and 26 had changed so
locally the TV stations should be up-to-date.
Ours happened a couple of months ago, I think.... I remember RichardFor whatever reason about half the local stations moved. I'm not sure
needing to rescan at one point, and lots of announcements ahead of
time on my radio station for the (PBS) TV's changing transmitting
frequency. And I think it affected all the stations in our area....
why the move other than to use the band more effectively. Did notice
one thing different: my MythTV scan only went to Channel 52; UHF band
used to go to 68 or 69. Maybe the "repack" name is to overall condense the band; I half-remember the FCC wanting to use some new channels for things like cell phones, maybe WiFi and conumer devices. LIS, half- remembering bits and pieces.
Back to the local repacking, Ch. 6 was the first one, but delayed
because of weather, and some of the weather delay was at whatever
station the tower crews were working on before coming here, some
weather delays due to the bad weather locally. As for the other
stations, just didn't say much.
Ooo! Your message was #11111 here!Or as the tagline says....
All for One, and One for All?? <G>
... 1 There's always one in every crowd.
From "A Chorus Line" -- ONE -- singlular sensation. <G>
January 4th: I'm back! Appears there some sort of problem with the
mailruns when rolled to 2020 -- two decade delay on Y2K?!
Richard just mentioned tonight that apparently some of the Y2K fixes
merely tossed the problem down the road 20 years.... maybe that caught
you...? He said that nothing that I use would be affected by that,
though.... :)
I may have read the same article. Prior I hadn't heard anything; it
would have seemed there would have been some 'leak' there could be a
problem.
Perhaps the authors of those kick-it-down-the-road fixes aren't
around any more or forgot it would eventually loom again... it was,
after all, 20 years ago....
I would guess a combination of all options. I didn't read anything;
admittedly I'm not "in the loop" but usually read in the techier stuff
of potential problems.
I don't think that Richard had heard anything ahead of time, either...OK -- not that I'm concerned with being out of the loop, but nice to
know I was sort of caught unawares also.
An unexpected "gotcha"....
And it's really bad when the patch has to be patched!
That's for sure.... <G>
Years and years and years ago I used WordPerfect. Not cheap but
worked the way I wanted it to and had the functions I wanted and
whatever Microsoft offered didn't. Recall reading WordPerfect did a
complete overhaul of their product about 2/3rds of the way into my
using them because there were so many patches and sub-sub-sub-routines,
etc., it was causing a significant slowdown. So they started from
scratch, rewrote the code, and came out with a much faster and
better-running product.
Makes sense... :) Did they offer the new product at a discount to
their faithful customers that were still using the old version...?
I don't recall: that was probably more like forty years ago.
Must have seemed equitable to you at the time... otherwise, I'd expectRight: probably more along an upgrade price as opposed to a brand new version price.
that you'd remember it more vividly... ;) Especially as you kept
using it for quite a while longer... ;)
Which would make sense.... :) When the author of the BlueWave
Reader came out with an entirely new version, he offered to
register the new one for free for a limited time to those who had registered the original version... I did take advantage of
that... :)
...Had to do a rescan of the TVs because of the "Repack" ==>
television stations moving their transmitting frequencies. Locally
"Channel 6" had done it (finally) a month or so ago, with lots of
notifications on-air and their website, including delays because of
weather.
That left Chs. 8, 18, and 26. (Other stations not moving.) Ch 8 had
a handful of announcements it would be updating today (January 17th)
but seemed like their total announcments would have added up to what
Ch. 6 notified in one day. Never did see announcments for the other
two stations.
So Ch. 8 was "off the air" this morning, did my rescanning which
brought them back. Also found out later Chs. 18 and 26 had changed so
locally the TV stations should be up-to-date.
Ours happened a couple of months ago, I think.... I remember RichardFor whatever reason about half the local stations moved. I'm not sure
needing to rescan at one point, and lots of announcements ahead of
time on my radio station for the (PBS) TV's changing transmitting
frequency. And I think it affected all the stations in our area....
why the move other than to use the band more effectively. Did notice
one thing different: my MythTV scan only went to Channel 52; UHF band
used to go to 68 or 69. Maybe the "repack" name is to overall condense the band; I half-remember the FCC wanting to use some new channels for things like cell phones, maybe WiFi and conumer devices. LIS, half- remembering bits and pieces.
That sounds like what I heard... ;)
Back to the local repacking, Ch. 6 was the first one, but delayed
because of weather, and some of the weather delay was at whatever
station the tower crews were working on before coming here, some
weather delays due to the bad weather locally. As for the other
stations, just didn't say much.
As I'm not watching the TV at all, I wasn't really paying
attention until Richard started talking about it.... :)
Ooo! Your message was #11111 here!Or as the tagline says....
All for One, and One for All?? <G>
... 1 There's always one in every crowd.
From "A Chorus Line" -- ONE -- singlular sensation. <G>
Sooo.... Argh! this editor won't let me copy nor insert the face BM>character!
Annnd kick! and kick! and kick!!
\o/ \o/ \o/ \o/
| | | |
|/ |/ |/ |/
/ / / /
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 31-Jan-2020 08:23 <=-
Perhaps the authors of those kick-it-down-the-road fixes aren't
around any more or forgot it would eventually loom again... it was,
after all, 20 years ago....
I would guess a combination of all options. I didn't read anything;
admittedly I'm not "in the loop" but usually read in the techier stuff
of potential problems.
I don't think that Richard had heard anything ahead of time, either...
OK -- not that I'm concerned with being out of the loop, but nice to
know I was sort of caught unawares also.
An unexpected "gotcha"....Yes; LIS like being aware of potential problems/issues - I can't do
much about them in the way of programming/fix but nice to know
something could be happening and monitor the situation. ...Quite sure other similar issues have snuck by.
Must have seemed equitable to you at the time... otherwise, I'd expect
that you'd remember it more vividly... ;) Especially as you kept
using it for quite a while longer... ;)
Right: probably more along an upgrade price as opposed to a brand new
version price.
Which would make sense.... :) When the author of the BlueWaveGood and good. The free probably cost him a little bit (not getting
Reader came out with an entirely new version, he offered to register
the new one for free for a limited time to those who had registered
the original version... I did take advantage of that... :)
paid for his work) but may have also saved him work supporting old versions which were now replaced by his new one. And could have
created money with the customers using upgrades to the new version
telling users of other products how good the new and improved BlueWave
is. (That made a lot more sense in my mind when I only had to use thoughts and not words!)
Back to the local repacking, Ch. 6 was the first one, but delayed
because of weather, and some of the weather delay was at whatever
station the tower crews were working on before coming here, some
weather delays due to the bad weather locally. As for the other
stations, just didn't say much.
As I'm not watching the TV at all, I wasn't really paying attention<chuckle> Right: TV? Oh, yeah, that monitor-like thing in the corner.
until Richard started talking about it.... :)
Perhaps the authors of those kick-it-down-the-road fixes aren't
around any more or forgot it would eventually loom again... it was,
after all, 20 years ago....
I would guess a combination of all options. I didn't read anything;
admittedly I'm not "in the loop" but usually read in the techier stuff
of potential problems.
I don't think that Richard had heard anything ahead of time, either...
OK -- not that I'm concerned with being out of the loop, but nice to
know I was sort of caught unawares also.
An unexpected "gotcha"....Yes; LIS like being aware of potential problems/issues - I can't do
much about them in the way of programming/fix but nice to know
something could be happening and monitor the situation. ...Quite sure other similar issues have snuck by.
And as long as they get fixed or don't really affect things too
much, not really a problem...
Must have seemed equitable to you at the time... otherwise, I'd expect
that you'd remember it more vividly... ;) Especially as you kept
using it for quite a while longer... ;)
Right: probably more along an upgrade price as opposed to a brand new
version price.
Which would make sense.... :) When the author of the BlueWaveGood and good. The free probably cost him a little bit (not getting
Reader came out with an entirely new version, he offered to register
the new one for free for a limited time to those who had registered
the original version... I did take advantage of that... :)
paid for his work) but may have also saved him work supporting old versions which were now replaced by his new one. And could have
created money with the customers using upgrades to the new version
telling users of other products how good the new and improved BlueWave
is. (That made a lot more sense in my mind when I only had to use thoughts and not words!)
Telling other users about the upgraded product, anyway... I don't
know what other products, if any, Cutting Edge produced... But he
did write a full line of readers and BBS offline doors for
BlueWave, for different platforms and bbs softwares... :)
Back to the local repacking, Ch. 6 was the first one, but delayed
because of weather, and some of the weather delay was at whatever
station the tower crews were working on before coming here, some
weather delays due to the bad weather locally. As for the other
stations, just didn't say much.
As I'm not watching the TV at all, I wasn't really paying attention<chuckle> Right: TV? Oh, yeah, that monitor-like thing in the corner.
until Richard started talking about it.... :)
Yup, something like that.... :)
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 06-Feb-2020 08:19 <=-
I don't think that Richard had heard anything ahead of time, either...
OK -- not that I'm concerned with being out of the loop, but nice to
know I was sort of caught unawares also.
An unexpected "gotcha"....
Yes; LIS like being aware of potential problems/issues - I can't do
much about them in the way of programming/fix but nice to know
something could be happening and monitor the situation. ...Quite sure
other similar issues have snuck by.
And as long as they get fixed or don't really affect things too much,Right. I'm rather low on the totem pole: by the time a problem gets
not really a problem...
to me it's been tested a few thousand times. Or a handful - I also
have some utilities which are probably used by a hundred or so people.
Anyway, if I see something check to see it's not something stupid I
did. try to get as detailed as possible, and report.
As you said, they usually get fixed, if not and not too inconvenient,
just ignore and go on.
Which would make sense.... :) When the author of the BlueWave
Reader came out with an entirely new version, he offered to register
the new one for free for a limited time to those who had registered
the original version... I did take advantage of that... :)
Good and good. The free probably cost him a little bit (not getting
paid for his work) but may have also saved him work supporting old
versions which were now replaced by his new one. And could have
created money with the customers using upgrades to the new version
telling users of other products how good the new and improved BlueWave
is. (That made a lot more sense in my mind when I only had to use
thoughts and not words!)
Telling other users about the upgraded product, anyway... I don't knowWord-of-mouth advertising is good!
what other products, if any, Cutting Edge produced... But he did write
a full line of readers and BBS offline doors for BlueWave, for
different platforms and bbs softwares... :)
Back to the local repacking, Ch. 6 was the first one, but delayed
because of weather, and some of the weather delay was at whatever
station the tower crews were working on before coming here, some
weather delays due to the bad weather locally. As for the other
stations, just didn't say much.
As I'm not watching the TV at all, I wasn't really paying attention
until Richard started talking about it.... :)
<chuckle> Right: TV? Oh, yeah, that monitor-like thing in the corner.
Yup, something like that.... :)Back to the rescanning, for me the problem wasn't the TVs but more the MythTV portion ==> recording and playback of TV shows. Had read in
the forum of some problems, most rescans seemed to go fine. Here my "Phase 1" rescan for 'Channel 6' went fine; even got a new station
(though rarely watch because most offerings repeated locally).
"Phase 2" was a little bumpy but could have been something I tried. 'Channel 8' moved from one frequency to another -- could I simply
change that number? The way I did it didn't work; on the rescan
(regular way) I ended up with two 'Channel 8's, one old and therefore
dead but identified as WQAD and the other new, live, but identified as
"1" (subchannels as "2", "3". etc.). Figured out the ones with the
call signs were the old, delete and rename the new ones, and all set.
The other stations which updated at the same time did not have the
quirk.
Think we're all set here until a new station comes on-line, either a
new substation to an existing station or a new station. Now to see
what's going on with Samantha and Daryll.... (hopefully find the
tagline!)
... 7:30 Ch 7: Bewitched.Tabatha gets carsick & turns Darin into
plastic bag.
I don't think that Richard had heard anything ahead of time, either...
OK -- not that I'm concerned with being out of the loop, but nice to
know I was sort of caught unawares also.
An unexpected "gotcha"....
Yes; LIS like being aware of potential problems/issues - I can't do
much about them in the way of programming/fix but nice to know
something could be happening and monitor the situation. ...Quite sure
other similar issues have snuck by.
And as long as they get fixed or don't really affect things too much,Right. I'm rather low on the totem pole: by the time a problem gets
not really a problem...
to me it's been tested a few thousand times. Or a handful - I also
have some utilities which are probably used by a hundred or so people.
I'm pretty much not even on the pole... <G> And only have a
handful of programs I use anyway, other than Richard's utilities
and such...
Anyway, if I see something check to see it's not something stupid I
did. try to get as detailed as possible, and report.
As you said, they usually get fixed, if not and not too inconvenient,
just ignore and go on.
Yup. And I think the programs I do use aren't ones that I can
reach the authors of anymore anyway.... so if there is an issue,
I just have to hope that Richard can find a way to fix it... ;)
Which would make sense.... :) When the author of the BlueWave
Reader came out with an entirely new version, he offered to register
the new one for free for a limited time to those who had registered
the original version... I did take advantage of that... :)
Good and good. The free probably cost him a little bit (not getting
paid for his work) but may have also saved him work supporting old
versions which were now replaced by his new one. And could have
created money with the customers using upgrades to the new version
telling users of other products how good the new and improved BlueWave
is. (That made a lot more sense in my mind when I only had to use
thoughts and not words!)
Telling other users about the upgraded product, anyway... I don't knowWord-of-mouth advertising is good!
what other products, if any, Cutting Edge produced... But he did write
a full line of readers and BBS offline doors for BlueWave, for
different platforms and bbs softwares... :)
Yup... and having them available on BBSs to download... There was
a kid that was really into Bluewave, back when I was just getting
into this stuff... Paul something... He was also a regular on the Holodeck, and made sure that we had the latest and greatest as
soon as it came out... I know of at least one existing bbs
(Holodeck is gone now) that has pretty much every Bluewave file,
including the Y2K fixes that happened after the author had
already disappeared...
Back to the local repacking, Ch. 6 was the first one, but delayed
because of weather, and some of the weather delay was at whatever
station the tower crews were working on before coming here, some
weather delays due to the bad weather locally. As for the other
stations, just didn't say much.
As I'm not watching the TV at all, I wasn't really paying attention
until Richard started talking about it.... :)
<chuckle> Right: TV? Oh, yeah, that monitor-like thing in the corner.
Yup, something like that.... :)Back to the rescanning, for me the problem wasn't the TVs but more the MythTV portion ==> recording and playback of TV shows. Had read in
the forum of some problems, most rescans seemed to go fine. Here my "Phase 1" rescan for 'Channel 6' went fine; even got a new station
(though rarely watch because most offerings repeated locally).
The more complicated one's setup, the more complicated the
updates get... ;)
"Phase 2" was a little bumpy but could have been something I tried. 'Channel 8' moved from one frequency to another -- could I simply
change that number? The way I did it didn't work; on the rescan
(regular way) I ended up with two 'Channel 8's, one old and therefore
dead but identified as WQAD and the other new, live, but identified as
"1" (subchannels as "2", "3". etc.). Figured out the ones with the
call signs were the old, delete and rename the new ones, and all set.
The other stations which updated at the same time did not have the
quirk.
Probably best not to second-guess the instructions... <G>
Think we're all set here until a new station comes on-line, either a
new substation to an existing station or a new station. Now to see
what's going on with Samantha and Daryll.... (hopefully find the
tagline!)
... 7:30 Ch 7: Bewitched.Tabatha gets carsick & turns Darin into
plastic bag.
That's the other show, isn't it...?
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 11-Feb-2020 08:39 <=-
Yes; LIS like being aware of potential problems/issues - I can't do
much about them in the way of programming/fix but nice to know
something could be happening and monitor the situation. ...Quite sure
other similar issues have snuck by.
And as long as they get fixed or don't really affect things too much,
not really a problem...
Right. I'm rather low on the totem pole: by the time a problem gets
to me it's been tested a few thousand times. Or a handful - I also
have some utilities which are probably used by a hundred or so people.
I'm pretty much not even on the pole... <G> And only have a handfulSomeone has to be out there to admire the Totem! <g>
of programs I use anyway, other than Richard's utilities and such...
Anyway, if I see something check to see it's not something stupid I
did. try to get as detailed as possible, and report.
As you said, they usually get fixed, if not and not too inconvenient,
just ignore and go on.
Yup. And I think the programs I do use aren't ones that I canI'm using one of those right now: the editor I use for BBS mail is no longer supported. Years ago I sent a check to register - I think more
reach the authors of anymore anyway.... so if there is an issue,
I just have to hope that Richard can find a way to fix it... ;)
to be legit and appreciative. Was returned, I think by the family.
Telling other users about the upgraded product, anyway... I don't
know what other products, if any, Cutting Edge produced... But he
did write a full line of readers and BBS offline doors for BlueWave,
for different platforms and bbs softwares... :)
Word-of-mouth advertising is good!
Yup... and having them available on BBSs to download... There was aA repository of old files and fixes is nice to have available. Part
kid that was really into Bluewave, back when I was just getting into
this stuff... Paul something... He was also a regular on the Holodeck,
and made sure that we had the latest and greatest as soon as it came
out... I know of at least one existing bbs (Holodeck is gone now) that
has pretty much every Bluewave file, including the Y2K fixes that
happened after the author had already disappeared...
of that may be why I have kept a bunch of old software, for that just
in case I or someone needs. Not so sure I really need to keep MS-DOS
3.x.
As I'm not watching the TV at all, I wasn't really paying attention
until Richard started talking about it.... :)
<chuckle> Right: TV? Oh, yeah, that monitor-like thing in the corner.
Yup, something like that.... :)
Back to the rescanning, for me the problem wasn't the TVs but more the
MythTV portion ==> recording and playback of TV shows. Had read in
the forum of some problems, most rescans seemed to go fine. Here my
"Phase 1" rescan for 'Channel 6' went fine; even got a new station
(though rarely watch because most offerings repeated locally).
The more complicated one's setup, the more complicated the updatesSeems to! OTOH it's (MythTV) relatively straight-forward: just a lot
get... ;)
more menus. ...OK, so maybe just a little more complicated!
"Phase 2" was a little bumpy but could have been something I tried.
'Channel 8' moved from one frequency to another -- could I simply
change that number? The way I did it didn't work; on the rescan
(regular way) I ended up with two 'Channel 8's, one old and therefore
dead but identified as WQAD and the other new, live, but identified as
"1" (subchannels as "2", "3". etc.). Figured out the ones with the
call signs were the old, delete and rename the new ones, and all set.
The other stations which updated at the same time did not have the
quirk.
Probably best not to second-guess the instructions... <G>(Where's that tagline about discoveries are made by not following instructions?!)
I may have to read what the correct way to
update/change is: I don't know if any of the remaining stations will
have a future repack but reasonably sure of added sub-stations.
Think we're all set here until a new station comes on-line, either a
new substation to an existing station or a new station. Now to see
what's going on with Samantha and Daryll.... (hopefully find the
tagline!)
... 7:30 Ch 7: Bewitched.Tabatha gets carsick & turns Darin into
plastic bag.
That's the other show, isn't it...?There were two husbands - maybe both were named Darin? ....Darrin
(two r's): Dick York.... The other one wasn't listed in the photos.
Off to the Wikipedia article.... Ah!:
Darrin Stephens (originally Dick York, seasons 1-5; later Dick
Sargent, seasons 6-8).
As for the reason for the change:
Dick York was unable to continue his role as Darrin because of a
severe back condition, the result of an accident during the filming
of They Came To Cordura in 1959. Starting during the third season,
York's disability caused ongoing shooting delays and script rewrites. After collapsing while filming the episode "Daddy Does His Thing" and being rushed to the hospital in January 1969, York left the show.
Dick Sargent was cast for the role that same month,[1] and went on to
play Darrin in the sixth through eighth seasons,
... Today it's hard to find wood to knock on for good luck.
Anyway, if I see something check to see it's not something stupid I
did. try to get as detailed as possible, and report.
As you said, they usually get fixed, if not and not too inconvenient,
just ignore and go on.
Yup. And I think the programs I do use aren't ones that I canI'm using one of those right now: the editor I use for BBS mail is no longer supported. Years ago I sent a check to register - I think more
reach the authors of anymore anyway.... so if there is an issue,
I just have to hope that Richard can find a way to fix it... ;)
to be legit and appreciative. Was returned, I think by the family.
As long as it still works, it doesn't matter whether or not it is supported, after all... :)
Telling other users about the upgraded product, anyway... I don't
know what other products, if any, Cutting Edge produced... But he
did write a full line of readers and BBS offline doors for BlueWave,
for different platforms and bbs softwares... :)
Word-of-mouth advertising is good!
Yup... and having them available on BBSs to download... There was aA repository of old files and fixes is nice to have available. Part
kid that was really into Bluewave, back when I was just getting into
this stuff... Paul something... He was also a regular on the Holodeck,
and made sure that we had the latest and greatest as soon as it came
out... I know of at least one existing bbs (Holodeck is gone now) that
has pretty much every Bluewave file, including the Y2K fixes that
happened after the author had already disappeared...
of that may be why I have kept a bunch of old software, for that just
in case I or someone needs. Not so sure I really need to keep MS-DOS
3.x.
You just never know... But, yes, that is pretty ancient... even I
am using something beyond that... <G>
As I'm not watching the TV at all, I wasn't really paying attention
until Richard started talking about it.... :)
<chuckle> Right: TV? Oh, yeah, that monitor-like thing in the corner.
Yup, something like that.... :)
Back to the rescanning, for me the problem wasn't the TVs but more the
MythTV portion ==> recording and playback of TV shows. Had read in
the forum of some problems, most rescans seemed to go fine. Here my
"Phase 1" rescan for 'Channel 6' went fine; even got a new station
(though rarely watch because most offerings repeated locally).
The more complicated one's setup, the more complicated the updatesSeems to! OTOH it's (MythTV) relatively straight-forward: just a lot
get... ;)
more menus. ...OK, so maybe just a little more complicated!
As I said.... <G>
"Phase 2" was a little bumpy but could have been something I tried.
'Channel 8' moved from one frequency to another -- could I simply
change that number? The way I did it didn't work; on the rescan
(regular way) I ended up with two 'Channel 8's, one old and therefore
dead but identified as WQAD and the other new, live, but identified as
"1" (subchannels as "2", "3". etc.). Figured out the ones with the
call signs were the old, delete and rename the new ones, and all set.
The other stations which updated at the same time did not have the
quirk.
Probably best not to second-guess the instructions... <G>(Where's that tagline about discoveries are made by not following instructions?!)
Sometimes the discovery is that it would have been better to
follow the instructions... <G>
I may have to read what the correct way to
update/change is: I don't know if any of the remaining stations will
have a future repack but reasonably sure of added sub-stations.
And by then, there might be an update to the instructions, too...
;)
Think we're all set here until a new station comes on-line, either a
new substation to an existing station or a new station. Now to see
what's going on with Samantha and Daryll.... (hopefully find the
tagline!)
... 7:30 Ch 7: Bewitched.Tabatha gets carsick & turns Darin into
plastic bag.
That's the other show, isn't it...?There were two husbands - maybe both were named Darin? ....Darrin
(two r's): Dick York.... The other one wasn't listed in the photos.
I was referring to the fact that one was "Samantha and Daryll"
and the other one "Tabitha and Darin"... And then there was
Jeanie (Genie)....
Off to the Wikipedia article.... Ah!:
Darrin Stephens (originally Dick York, seasons 1-5; later Dick
Sargent, seasons 6-8).
As for the reason for the change:
Dick York was unable to continue his role as Darrin because of a
severe back condition, the result of an accident during the filming
of They Came To Cordura in 1959. Starting during the third season,
York's disability caused ongoing shooting delays and script rewrites. After collapsing while filming the episode "Daddy Does His Thing" and being rushed to the hospital in January 1969, York left the show.
Dick Sargent was cast for the role that same month,[1] and went on to
play Darrin in the sixth through eighth seasons,
Not that I was by any means a regular viewer, but I did see the
occasional episode from time to time... of a number of those
shows... ;) And saw some as reruns over the years as well (at
other people's houses, generally)...
... Today it's hard to find wood to knock on for good luck.
That's why one might use one's head to knock on... it's
convenient, as well... <G>
... If you wake up Sleepy & Grumpy, you must be Snow White.
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 17-Feb-2020 08:37 <=-
Yup. And I think the programs I do use aren't ones that I can
reach the authors of anymore anyway.... so if there is an issue,
I just have to hope that Richard can find a way to fix it... ;)
I'm using one of those right now: the editor I use for BBS mail is no
longer supported. Years ago I sent a check to register - I think more
to be legit and appreciative. Was returned, I think by the family.
As long as it still works, it doesn't matter whether or not it isRight; I was mainly trying to send the registration check as thank you
supported, after all... :)
to the author. Also would have removed the 'please register' note
that only appears when first writing then disappears.
A repository of old files and fixes is nice to have available. Part
of that may be why I have kept a bunch of old software, for that just
in case I or someone needs. Not so sure I really need to keep MS-DOS
3.x.
You just never know... But, yes, that is pretty ancient... even IGood! <g> ...Just did a quick look at eBay -- did see a 3.3 and that
am using something beyond that... <G>
was bundled with a Windows at a little over forty dollars. Appears
not really worth the storage space. ...Would be nice if could find out how long some of the 'antique' items have been posted: selling like hotcakes or posted since 1995.
The more complicated one's setup, the more complicated the updates
get... ;)
Seems to! OTOH it's (MythTV) relatively straight-forward: just a lot
more menus. ...OK, so maybe just a little more complicated!
As I said.... <G>
Not watching TV or .... <g>
I may have to read what the correct way to
update/change is: I don't know if any of the remaining stations will
have a future repack but reasonably sure of added sub-stations.
And by then, there might be an update to the instructions, too... ;)I did find out appears there is a rescan needed around March 17th.
Out of curiosity I think I'll look up that other way of setting the station frequency. Probably easier to do a scan.
Think we're all set here until a new station comes on-line, either a
new substation to an existing station or a new station. Now to see
what's going on with Samantha and Daryll.... (hopefully find the
tagline!)
... 7:30 Ch 7: Bewitched.Tabatha gets carsick & turns Darin into
plastic bag.
That's the other show, isn't it...?
There were two husbands - maybe both were named Darin? ....Darrin
(two r's): Dick York.... The other one wasn't listed in the photos.
I was referring to the fact that one was "Samantha and Daryll" andAh-ha! You do know some TV!!
the other one "Tabitha and Darin"... And then there was Jeanie
(Genie)....
Not that I was by any means a regular viewer, but I did see theA lot of the shows I watch could easily be classified as cotton candy
occasional episode from time to time... of a number of those shows...
And saw some as reruns over the years as well (at other people's
houses, generally)...
for the brain, though not quite turning my brain to cotton candy (Marshmallow Fluff, maybe! <g>). Some was just to be able to join in
on work conversations.
... Today it's hard to find wood to knock on for good luck.
That's why one might use one's head to knock on... it'sI do usually have it with me!
convenient, as well... <G>
Yup. And I think the programs I do use aren't ones that I can
reach the authors of anymore anyway.... so if there is an issue,
I just have to hope that Richard can find a way to fix it... ;)
I'm using one of those right now: the editor I use for BBS mail is no
longer supported. Years ago I sent a check to register - I think more
to be legit and appreciative. Was returned, I think by the family.
As long as it still works, it doesn't matter whether or not it isRight; I was mainly trying to send the registration check as thank you
supported, after all... :)
to the author. Also would have removed the 'please register' note
that only appears when first writing then disappears.
The little nags.... ;) Yes, it would have been nice to get that registered, but if the author wasn't around any more, probably
the family wouldn't have been able to generate a registration
code for you anyway....
A repository of old files and fixes is nice to have available. Part
of that may be why I have kept a bunch of old software, for that just
in case I or someone needs. Not so sure I really need to keep MS-DOS
3.x.
You just never know... But, yes, that is pretty ancient... even IGood! <g> ...Just did a quick look at eBay -- did see a 3.3 and that
am using something beyond that... <G>
was bundled with a Windows at a little over forty dollars. Appears
not really worth the storage space. ...Would be nice if could find out how long some of the 'antique' items have been posted: selling like hotcakes or posted since 1995.
You mean Ebay doesn't have some way of telling that sort of information....?
The more complicated one's setup, the more complicated the updates
get... ;)
Seems to! OTOH it's (MythTV) relatively straight-forward: just a lot
more menus. ...OK, so maybe just a little more complicated!
As I said.... <G>Not watching TV or .... <g>
Updates.... for you, that is.... <G> and relative
complication... ;)
Ah-ha! You do know some TV!!
I didn't say I had had NO exposure to TV.... <G> Some things do
stick even if only seen on occasional basis at friends'
houses.... ;)
Not that I was by any means a regular viewer, but I did see theA lot of the shows I watch could easily be classified as cotton candy
occasional episode from time to time... of a number of those shows...
And saw some as reruns over the years as well (at other people's
houses, generally)...
for the brain, though not quite turning my brain to cotton candy (Marshmallow Fluff, maybe! <g>). Some was just to be able to join in
on work conversations.
Which you don't need now... but, yeah... it's a way to relax....
;)
... Advice is usually worth what it cost. Less if you hired a
consultant.
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 23-Feb-2020 08:37 <=-
the editor I use for BBS mail is no longer supported. Years ago I
sent a check to register - I think more to be legit and appreciative.
Was returned, I think by the family.
As long as it still works, it doesn't matter whether or not it is
supported, after all... :)
Right; I was mainly trying to send the registration check as thank you
to the author. Also would have removed the 'please register' note
that only appears when first writing then disappears.
Yes, it would have been nice to get that registered, but if theProbably not; another option was the author was alive just not
author wasn't around any more, probably the family wouldn't have been
able to generate a registration code for you anyway....
actively supporting the software. Mine was more of attempt to do the right thing (register) and show appreciation of the person's work.
A repository of old files and fixes is nice to have available. Part
of that may be why I have kept a bunch of old software, for that just
in case I or someone needs. Not so sure I really need to keep MS-DOS
3.x.
You just never know... But, yes, that is pretty ancient... even I
am using something beyond that... <G>
Good! <g> ...Just did a quick look at eBay -- did see a 3.3 and that
was bundled with a Windows at a little over forty dollars. Appears
not really worth the storage space. ...Would be nice if could find out
how long some of the 'antique' items have been posted: selling like
hotcakes or posted since 1995.
You mean Ebay doesn't have some way of telling that sort ofNot that I had noticed. ...Looked closer at three listings and
information....?
didn't see anything indicated initial post date. (Have seen on
Amazon.)
The more complicated one's setup, the more complicated the updates
get... ;)
Seems to! OTOH it's (MythTV) relatively straight-forward: just a lot
more menus. ...OK, so maybe just a little more complicated!
As I said.... <G>
Not watching TV or .... <g>
Updates.... for you, that is.... <G> and relative complication... ;)Simple takes the fun out of it! <g>
Ah-ha! You do know some TV!!
I didn't say I had had NO exposure to TV.... <G> Some things doTrue. "Waste of time" probably comes to your mind frequently! <jk>
stick even if only seen on occasional basis at friends' houses.... ;)
Not that I was by any means a regular viewer, but I did see the
occasional episode from time to time... of a number of those shows...
And saw some as reruns over the years as well (at other people's
houses, generally)...
A lot of the shows I watch could easily be classified as cotton candy
for the brain, though not quite turning my brain to cotton candy
(Marshmallow Fluff, maybe! <g>). Some was just to be able to join in
on work conversations.
Which you don't need now... but, yeah... it's a way to relax.... ;)After a long day of e-mail, some ends-and-odds on-line research,
...<g>
... Advice is usually worth what it cost. Less if you hired aAnd consultants should be considered that: someone to get ideas from.
consultant.
What works for them/in their mind doesn't necessarily work for you/me/
the person being the 'consultee'. Spend good money (and time) on a
person hired to tell you what to do (or not to do) one probably wants postive results: I give you money, you tell me how to fix this
problem.
the editor I use for BBS mail is no longer supported. Years ago I
sent a check to register - I think more to be legit and appreciative.
Was returned, I think by the family.
As long as it still works, it doesn't matter whether or not it is
supported, after all... :)
Right; I was mainly trying to send the registration check as thank you
to the author. Also would have removed the 'please register' note
that only appears when first writing then disappears.
Yes, it would have been nice to get that registered, but if theProbably not; another option was the author was alive just not
author wasn't around any more, probably the family wouldn't have been
able to generate a registration code for you anyway....
actively supporting the software. Mine was more of attempt to do the right thing (register) and show appreciation of the person's work.
And both are good things... :)
A repository of old files and fixes is nice to have available. Part
of that may be why I have kept a bunch of old software, for that just
in case I or someone needs. Not so sure I really need to keep MS-DOS
3.x.
You just never know... But, yes, that is pretty ancient... even I
am using something beyond that... <G>
Good! <g> ...Just did a quick look at eBay -- did see a 3.3 and that
was bundled with a Windows at a little over forty dollars. Appears
not really worth the storage space. ...Would be nice if could find out
how long some of the 'antique' items have been posted: selling like
hotcakes or posted since 1995.
You mean Ebay doesn't have some way of telling that sort ofNot that I had noticed. ...Looked closer at three listings and
information....?
didn't see anything indicated initial post date. (Have seen on
Amazon.)
Maybe it isn't viewable on the user side of things... You'd think
that someone would keep track of that sort of thing, if only for
ongoing site maintenance....
Ah-ha! You do know some TV!!
I didn't say I had had NO exposure to TV.... <G> Some things doTrue. "Waste of time" probably comes to your mind frequently! <jk>
stick even if only seen on occasional basis at friends' houses.... ;)
Some times just "distraction".... which isn't always bad... <G>
Not that I was by any means a regular viewer, but I did see the
occasional episode from time to time... of a number of those shows...
And saw some as reruns over the years as well (at other people's
houses, generally)...
A lot of the shows I watch could easily be classified as cotton candy
for the brain, though not quite turning my brain to cotton candy
(Marshmallow Fluff, maybe! <g>). Some was just to be able to join in
on work conversations.
Which you don't need now... but, yeah... it's a way to relax.... ;)After a long day of e-mail, some ends-and-odds on-line research,
...<g>
Whatever you want to call it... <G>
... Advice is usually worth what it cost. Less if you hired aAnd consultants should be considered that: someone to get ideas from.
consultant.
What works for them/in their mind doesn't necessarily work for you/me/
the person being the 'consultee'. Spend good money (and time) on a
person hired to tell you what to do (or not to do) one probably wants postive results: I give you money, you tell me how to fix this
problem.
Sometimes it is quite useful to get some expertise on a
subject/project, especially if one has hit a snag... as long as
the consultant does know, anyway.... ;)
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 29-Feb-2020 08:58 <=-
Right; I was mainly trying to send the registration check as thank you
to the author. Also would have removed the 'please register' note
that only appears when first writing then disappears.
Yes, it would have been nice to get that registered, but if the
author wasn't around any more, probably the family wouldn't have been
able to generate a registration code for you anyway....
Probably not; another option was the author was alive just not
actively supporting the software. Mine was more of attempt to do the
right thing (register) and show appreciation of the person's work.
And both are good things... :)And probably more the latter. Vaguely recalling I knew ahead of time
the software was no longer registerable; at least by the attempt to register I was showing appreciation.
...Just did a quick look at eBay -- did see a 3.3 and that was
bundled with a Windows at a little over forty dollars. Appears not
really worth the storage space. ...Would be nice if could find out
how long some of the 'antique' items have been posted: selling like
hotcakes or posted since 1995.
You mean Ebay doesn't have some way of telling that sort of
information....?
Not that I had noticed. ...Looked closer at three listings and
didn't see anything indicated initial post date. (Have seen on
Amazon.)
Maybe it isn't viewable on the user side of things... You'd thinkI have Googled for information on products/devices and have clicked to
that someone would keep track of that sort of thing, if only for
ongoing site maintenance....
old and expired listings -- sometimes get "auction ended August 14,
1997" so some very old information is being kept. Just haven't seen
or figured out how to get to the initial listing date on eBay; Amazon usually has it. Oh well. Did find a paperback I brought in as part
of my giveaway was listed $44-90 -- history on a local univeristy.
Gave that one to one of the receptionists: her father had attended and seemed to imply there was more than just going there. (And no, I
didn't tell her the price spread I had found.)
Ah-ha! You do know some TV!!
I didn't say I had had NO exposure to TV.... <G> Some things do
stick even if only seen on occasional basis at friends' houses.... ;)
True. "Waste of time" probably comes to your mind frequently! <jk>
Some times just "distraction".... which isn't always bad... <G>True: provides relief, or a mood-changer (preferably to happy).
... Advice is usually worth what it cost. Less if you hired a
consultant.
And consultants should be considered that: someone to get ideas from.
What works for them/in their mind doesn't necessarily work for you/me/
the person being the 'consultee'. Spend good money (and time) on a
person hired to tell you what to do (or not to do) one probably wants
postive results: I give you money, you tell me how to fix this
problem.
Sometimes it is quite useful to get some expertise on aYes - like my car's battery issue. Would seem the dealer mechanics
subject/project, especially if one has hit a snag... as long as
the consultant does know, anyway.... ;)
would know. Well, they did know it wasn't the battery but something causing the battery to 'fail'. They just needed a hint as to where to look.
And probably more the latter. Vaguely recalling I knew ahead of time
the software was no longer registerable; at least by the attempt to register I was showing appreciation.
Yup. And another way to show appreciation is to keep using it... although, admittedly, often there'd be no way that anyone would necessarily know that you were... <G>
I have Googled for information on products/devices and have clicked to
old and expired listings -- sometimes get "auction ended August 14,
1997" so some very old information is being kept. Just haven't seen
or figured out how to get to the initial listing date on eBay; Amazon usually has it. Oh well. Did find a paperback I brought in as part
of my giveaway was listed $44-90 -- history on a local univeristy.
Gave that one to one of the receptionists: her father had attended and seemed to imply there was more than just going there. (And no, I
didn't tell her the price spread I had found.)
From what Richard says, the price spreads on EBay can be totally ridiculous... one really does have to have a clue what something
is worth before thinking of buying it there... but by the same
token, one can also get some really good deals there.... :)
Ah-ha! You do know some TV!!
I didn't say I had had NO exposure to TV.... <G> Some things do
stick even if only seen on occasional basis at friends' houses.... ;)
True. "Waste of time" probably comes to your mind frequently! <jk>
Some times just "distraction".... which isn't always bad... <G>True: provides relief, or a mood-changer (preferably to happy).
Often it just gets me annoyed, another reason not to seek out TV
for me... ;)
... Advice is usually worth what it cost. Less if you hired a
consultant.
And consultants should be considered that: someone to get ideas from.
What works for them/in their mind doesn't necessarily work for you/me/
the person being the 'consultee'. Spend good money (and time) on a
person hired to tell you what to do (or not to do) one probably wants
postive results: I give you money, you tell me how to fix this
problem.
Sometimes it is quite useful to get some expertise on aYes - like my car's battery issue. Would seem the dealer mechanics
subject/project, especially if one has hit a snag... as long as
the consultant does know, anyway.... ;)
would know. Well, they did know it wasn't the battery but something causing the battery to 'fail'. They just needed a hint as to where to look.
And they did figure it out for you nicely... :)
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 06-Mar-2020 08:47 <=-
And probably more the latter. Vaguely recalling I knew ahead of time
the software was no longer registerable; at least by the attempt to
register I was showing appreciation.
Yup. And another way to show appreciation is to keep using it...Right: I don't think 'Sedit' shows up anyplace on my source taglines.
although, admittedly, often there'd be no way that anyone would
necessarily know that you were... <G>
I have Googled for information on products/devices and have clicked to
old and expired listings -- sometimes get "auction ended August 14,
1997" so some very old information is being kept. Just haven't seen
or figured out how to get to the initial listing date on eBay; Amazon
usually has it. Oh well. Did find a paperback I brought in as part
of my giveaway was listed $44-90 -- history on a local univeristy.
Gave that one to one of the receptionists: her father had attended and
seemed to imply there was more than just going there. (And no, I
didn't tell her the price spread I had found.)
From what Richard says, the price spreads on EBay can be totallyAgree! Though just like shopping at brick-and-mortar stores one site
ridiculous... one really does have to have a clue what something is
worth before thinking of buying it there... but by the same token,
one can also get some really good deals there.... :)
will have a super-low price while another rather high. If don't
know/look around may not be getting a decent deal.
...Trying to sell an item at $100 when everyone else is $20 makes no sense: too easy to look around.
Ah-ha! You do know some TV!!
I didn't say I had had NO exposure to TV.... <G> Some things do
stick even if only seen on occasional basis at friends' houses.... ;)
True. "Waste of time" probably comes to your mind frequently! <jk>
Some times just "distraction".... which isn't always bad... <G>
True: provides relief, or a mood-changer (preferably to happy). Often
it just gets me annoyed, another reason not to seek out TV for me... ;)Some (most!) of the shows have no interest to us. Remember a few
shows we stopped watching just because 'annoying' - can have a bad/mediocre show occasionally but....
... Advice is usually worth what it cost. Less if you hired a
consultant.
And consultants should be considered that: someone to get ideas from.
What works for them/in their mind doesn't necessarily work for you/me/
the person being the 'consultee'. Spend good money (and time) on a
person hired to tell you what to do (or not to do) one probably wants
positive results: I give you money, you tell me how to fix this
problem.
Sometimes it is quite useful to get some expertise on a subject/
project, especially if one has hit a snag... as long as the
consultant does know, anyway.... ;)
Yes - like my car's battery issue. Would seem the dealer mechanics
would know. Well, they did know it wasn't the battery but something
causing the battery to 'fail'. They just needed a hint as to where to
look.
And they did figure it out for you nicely... :)Yes, no more mystery lock/unlock issues and tires are holding
pressure. Both corrected because of a presumed battery issue.
And probably more the latter. Vaguely recalling I knew ahead of time
the software was no longer registerable; at least by the attempt to
register I was showing appreciation.
Yup. And another way to show appreciation is to keep using it...Right: I don't think 'Sedit' shows up anyplace on my source taglines.
although, admittedly, often there'd be no way that anyone would
necessarily know that you were... <G>
Not that I've seen... MultiMail gets credit, though... :)
I have Googled for information on products/devices and have clicked to
old and expired listings -- sometimes get "auction ended August 14,
1997" so some very old information is being kept. Just haven't seen
or figured out how to get to the initial listing date on eBay; Amazon
usually has it. Oh well. Did find a paperback I brought in as part
of my giveaway was listed $44-90 -- history on a local univeristy.
Gave that one to one of the receptionists: her father had attended and
seemed to imply there was more than just going there. (And no, I
didn't tell her the price spread I had found.)
From what Richard says, the price spreads on EBay can be totallyAgree! Though just like shopping at brick-and-mortar stores one site
ridiculous... one really does have to have a clue what something is
worth before thinking of buying it there... but by the same token,
one can also get some really good deals there.... :)
will have a super-low price while another rather high. If don't
know/look around may not be getting a decent deal.
Less likely to have that sort of price spread at
brick-and-mortar, though...
...Trying to sell an item at $100 when everyone else is $20 makes no sense: too easy to look around.
But probably enough people don't look around, and do take the
first price they see, for the sellers to get away with it....
Ah-ha! You do know some TV!!
I didn't say I had had NO exposure to TV.... <G> Some things do
stick even if only seen on occasional basis at friends' houses.... ;)
True. "Waste of time" probably comes to your mind frequently! <jk>
Some times just "distraction".... which isn't always bad... <G>
True: provides relief, or a mood-changer (preferably to happy). Often
it just gets me annoyed, another reason not to seek out TV for me... ;)Some (most!) of the shows have no interest to us. Remember a few
shows we stopped watching just because 'annoying' - can have a bad/mediocre show occasionally but....
And that's a large part of my just not bothering with TV at all
any more... ;)
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 13-Mar-2020 09:40 <=-
And probably more the latter. Vaguely recalling I knew ahead of time
the software was no longer registerable; at least by the attempt to
register I was showing appreciation.
Yup. And another way to show appreciation is to keep using it...
although, admittedly, often there'd be no way that anyone would
necessarily know that you were... <G>
Right: I don't think 'Sedit' shows up anyplace on my source taglines.
Not that I've seen... MultiMail gets credit, though... :)Last one gets the credit!
I have Googled for information on products/devices and have clicked to
old and expired listings -- sometimes get "auction ended August 14,
1997" so some very old information is being kept. Just haven't seen
or figured out how to get to the initial listing date on eBay; Amazon
usually has it. Oh well. Did find a paperback I brought in as part
of my giveaway was listed $44-90 -- history on a local univeristy.
Gave that one to one of the receptionists: her father had attended and
seemed to imply there was more than just going there. (And no, I
didn't tell her the price spread I had found.)
From what Richard says, the price spreads on EBay can be totally
ridiculous... one really does have to have a clue what something is
worth before thinking of buying it there... but by the same token,
one can also get some really good deals there.... :)
Agree! Though just like shopping at brick-and-mortar stores one site
will have a super-low price while another rather high. If don't
know/look around may not be getting a decent deal.
Less likely to have that sort of price spread at brick-and-mortar,A lot of times competitors will be shopped to check pricing. Or used
though...
to be -- probably now do the same thing we do at home is check various
web sites.
As far as eBay, quite sure they do the same thing amongst each other,
just still find it odd there is a large spread even in the low price group: one witl sell for $5 and another $7, though have sometimes
found the higher priced is better if look for multiple quantities:
need two, so the $5 one is $10 total, but a higher-priced offering is giving discounts if buy more than one.
...Trying to sell an item at $100 when everyone else is $20 makes no
sense: too easy to look around.
But probably enough people don't look around, and do take theKy suggested in another conference (or maybe it was this one) a legal
first price they see, for the sellers to get away with it....
way to move drug and other not-legally-approved monies.
Ah-ha! You do know some TV!!
I didn't say I had had NO exposure to TV.... <G> Some things do
stick even if only seen on occasional basis at friends' houses.... ;)
True. "Waste of time" probably comes to your mind frequently! <jk>
Some times just "distraction".... which isn't always bad... <G>
True: provides relief, or a mood-changer (preferably to happy). Often
it just gets me annoyed, another reason not to seek out TV for me... ;)
Some (most!) of the shows have no interest to us. Remember a few
shows we stopped watching just because 'annoying' - can have a
bad/mediocre show occasionally but....
And that's a large part of my just not bothering with TV at allEvery show became annoying!
any more... ;)
And probably more the latter. Vaguely recalling I knew ahead of time
the software was no longer registerable; at least by the attempt to
register I was showing appreciation.
Yup. And another way to show appreciation is to keep using it...
although, admittedly, often there'd be no way that anyone would
necessarily know that you were... <G>
Right: I don't think 'Sedit' shows up anyplace on my source taglines.
Not that I've seen... MultiMail gets credit, though... :)Last one gets the credit!
Yup, generally so, as there is only one line available for that
sort of credit.... although, I think I vaguely remember seeing
some messages with multiple lines of that sort.... probably
something that someone set up on their own....
I have Googled for information on products/devices and have clicked to
old and expired listings -- sometimes get "auction ended August 14,
1997" so some very old information is being kept. Just haven't seen
or figured out how to get to the initial listing date on eBay; Amazon
usually has it. Oh well. Did find a paperback I brought in as part
of my giveaway was listed $44-90 -- history on a local univeristy.
Gave that one to one of the receptionists: her father had attended and
seemed to imply there was more than just going there. (And no, I
didn't tell her the price spread I had found.)
From what Richard says, the price spreads on EBay can be totally
ridiculous... one really does have to have a clue what something is
worth before thinking of buying it there... but by the same token,
one can also get some really good deals there.... :)
Agree! Though just like shopping at brick-and-mortar stores one site
will have a super-low price while another rather high. If don't
know/look around may not be getting a decent deal.
Less likely to have that sort of price spread at brick-and-mortar,A lot of times competitors will be shopped to check pricing. Or used
though...
to be -- probably now do the same thing we do at home is check various
web sites.
B&M probably do do at least some of the price-checking in person, locally... of course, there are almost always some "wicked deal"
or loss leader sales, but generally they do stay rather close to
each other... or boast about how they've got the lowest prices in
town... <G>
As far as eBay, quite sure they do the same thing amongst each other,
just still find it odd there is a large spread even in the low price group: one witl sell for $5 and another $7, though have sometimes
found the higher priced is better if look for multiple quantities:
need two, so the $5 one is $10 total, but a higher-priced offering is giving discounts if buy more than one.
Or one is charging shipping and the other one not.... The thing
is that eBay is made up of lots of individual sellers (some from
their home, some as a business and some in-between), some of
which are going for whatever the market might bear, and some that
are just trying to sell for something reasonable...
...Trying to sell an item at $100 when everyone else is $20 makes no
sense: too easy to look around.
But probably enough people don't look around, and do take theKy suggested in another conference (or maybe it was this one) a legal
first price they see, for the sellers to get away with it....
way to move drug and other not-legally-approved monies.
Probably another conference, as I don't recall the
conversation... but that could also be a factor in some cases....
Ah-ha! You do know some TV!!
I didn't say I had had NO exposure to TV.... <G> Some things do
stick even if only seen on occasional basis at friends' houses.... ;)
True. "Waste of time" probably comes to your mind frequently! <jk>
Some times just "distraction".... which isn't always bad... <G>
True: provides relief, or a mood-changer (preferably to happy). Often
it just gets me annoyed, another reason not to seek out TV for me... ;)
Some (most!) of the shows have no interest to us. Remember a few
shows we stopped watching just because 'annoying' - can have a
bad/mediocre show occasionally but....
And that's a large part of my just not bothering with TV at allEvery show became annoying!
any more... ;)
Pretty much, at some point.... ;) And the ones that probably
would have held my interest, I'd either not know about or would
forget about when it actually showed... or Richard would be
watching something else... And now the only TV in the house isn't
exactly easily accessible for me.... ;)
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 26-Mar-2020 07:37 <=-
Vaguely recalling I knew ahead of time the software was no longer
registerable; at least by the attempt to register I was showing
appreciation.
Yup. And another way to show appreciation is to keep using it...
although, admittedly, often there'd be no way that anyone would
necessarily know that you were... <G>
Right: I don't think 'Sedit' shows up anyplace on my source taglines.
Not that I've seen... MultiMail gets credit, though... :)
Last one gets the credit!
Yup, generally so, as there is only one line available for that sortThere are always ways to modify and expand; it's a matter of others to
of credit... although, I think I vaguely remember seeing some messages
with multiple lines of that sort.... probably something that someone
set up on their own....
use this new 'standard'.
From what Richard says, the price spreads on EBay can be totally
ridiculous... one really does have to have a clue what something is
worth before thinking of buying it there... but by the same token,
one can also get some really good deals there.... :)
Agree! Though just like shopping at brick-and-mortar stores one site
will have a super-low price while another rather high. If don't
know/look around may not be getting a decent deal.
Less likely to have that sort of price spread at brick-and-mortar,
though...
A lot of times competitors will be shopped to check pricing. Or used
to be -- probably now do the same thing we do at home is check various
web sites.
B&M probably do do at least some of the price-checking in person,,,,By one cent! Also have to watch sizes/capacities/fabrics, etc.:
locally... of course, there are almost always some "wicked deal" or
loss leader sales, but generally they do stay rather close to each
other... or boast about how they've got the lowest prices in town...
Store A may have a 10 oz. bottle while Store B has 11 oz.
Know with
Large Applances at the store the various competitors (and my store)
got around price matching for the same model as wasn't quite the same model: got a different model number because something was changed.
As far as eBay, quite sure they do the same thing amongst each other,
just still find it odd there is a large spread even in the low price
group: one witl sell for $5 and another $7, though have sometimes
found the higher priced is better if look for multiple quantities:
need two, so the $5 one is $10 total, but a higher-priced offering is
giving discounts if buy more than one.
Or one is charging shipping and the other one not.... The thing isRight. If I were to sell I'd not be in it for a profit and weekly paycheck; I'd be in it more to get rid of stuff and maybe get a bit of
that eBay is made up of lots of individual sellers (some from their
home, some as a business and some in-between), some of which are
going for whatever the market might bear, and some that are just
trying to sell for something reasonable...
my original investment back. There might be (probably!) pricing guidelines, or maybe self-guidelines: if he's selling it for $25 if I
sell it for $24 I might get the business.
And I think I wrote a while back where I paid a dollar more for the
same item (may have been the same seller) and got the better deal
because that one had free shipping. Actually saved money by paying
more.
...Trying to sell an item at $100 when everyone else is $20 makes no
sense: too easy to look around.
But probably enough people don't look around, and do take the
first price they see, for the sellers to get away with it....
Ky suggested in another conference (or maybe it was this one) a legal
way to move drug and other not-legally-approved monies.
Probably another conference, as I don't recall the conversation...Also would seem like those selling that way would be an easy target:
but that could also be a factor in some cases....
law enforcement goes on-line, selects 'Pricing: High to Low', does a
bit of checking as to why the high price, start searching for the
seller.
Some (most!) of the shows have no interest to us. Remember a few
shows we stopped watching just because 'annoying' - can have a
bad/mediocre show occasionally but....
And that's a large part of my just not bothering with TV at all
any more... ;)
Every show became annoying!
Pretty much, at some point.... ;) And the ones that probably wouldSo even less TV! ...Just different forms of entertainment. :)
have held my interest, I'd either not know about or would forget about
when it actually showed... or Richard would be watching something
else... And now the only TV in the house isn't exactly easily
accessible for me.... ;)
Vaguely recalling I knew ahead of time the software was no longer
registerable; at least by the attempt to register I was showing
appreciation.
Yup. And another way to show appreciation is to keep using it...
although, admittedly, often there'd be no way that anyone would
necessarily know that you were... <G>
Right: I don't think 'Sedit' shows up anyplace on my source taglines.
Not that I've seen... MultiMail gets credit, though... :)
Last one gets the credit!
Yup, generally so, as there is only one line available for that sortThere are always ways to modify and expand; it's a matter of others to
of credit... although, I think I vaguely remember seeing some messages
with multiple lines of that sort.... probably something that someone
set up on their own....
use this new 'standard'.
I was thinking more of an individual thing... not something to
become a new standard.... and besides, old software wouldn't know
about any new standards, so wouldn't/couldn't be using them... :)
From what Richard says, the price spreads on EBay can be totally
ridiculous... one really does have to have a clue what something is
worth before thinking of buying it there... but by the same token,
one can also get some really good deals there.... :)
Agree! Though just like shopping at brick-and-mortar stores one site
will have a super-low price while another rather high. If don't
know/look around may not be getting a decent deal.
Less likely to have that sort of price spread at brick-and-mortar,
though...
A lot of times competitors will be shopped to check pricing. Or used
to be -- probably now do the same thing we do at home is check various
web sites.
B&M probably do do at least some of the price-checking in person,,,,By one cent! Also have to watch sizes/capacities/fabrics, etc.:
locally... of course, there are almost always some "wicked deal" or
loss leader sales, but generally they do stay rather close to each
other... or boast about how they've got the lowest prices in town...
Store A may have a 10 oz. bottle while Store B has 11 oz.
Wegmans is pretty good about comparing equivalents.... of course,
they probably pick items where they do have the price
advantage... ;) A poster with all the available items would be
too big, so they only list a dozen or so... ;)
Know with
Large Applances at the store the various competitors (and my store)
got around price matching for the same model as wasn't quite the same model: got a different model number because something was changed.
And manufacturers would likely make minor changes from one chain
to another anyway... call it something for one store and another
sub-brand name for another.... :) So of course the model number
would have to be different... :)
And I think I wrote a while back where I paid a dollar more for the
same item (may have been the same seller) and got the better deal
because that one had free shipping. Actually saved money by paying
more.
You probably did mention that before... and yes, the buyer needs
to take all sorts of things into consideration to be sure that it
is the best deal... ;)
...Trying to sell an item at $100 when everyone else is $20 makes no
sense: too easy to look around.
But probably enough people don't look around, and do take the
first price they see, for the sellers to get away with it....
Ky suggested in another conference (or maybe it was this one) a legal
way to move drug and other not-legally-approved monies.
Probably another conference, as I don't recall the conversation...Also would seem like those selling that way would be an easy target:
but that could also be a factor in some cases....
law enforcement goes on-line, selects 'Pricing: High to Low', does a
bit of checking as to why the high price, start searching for the
seller.
Money laundering could as easily be done with median-priced
items, so law enforcement might not be able to spot it all that
easily....
Some (most!) of the shows have no interest to us. Remember a few
shows we stopped watching just because 'annoying' - can have a
bad/mediocre show occasionally but....
And that's a large part of my just not bothering with TV at all
any more... ;)
Every show became annoying!
Pretty much, at some point.... ;) And the ones that probably wouldSo even less TV! ...Just different forms of entertainment. :)
have held my interest, I'd either not know about or would forget about
when it actually showed... or Richard would be watching something
else... And now the only TV in the house isn't exactly easily
accessible for me.... ;)
Exactly... there's bbsing, reading... and so forth.... :)
... "I was breeding that mold. Its name was Albert." - Lister
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 02-Apr-2020 12:17 <=-
Right: I don't think 'Sedit' shows up anyplace on my source taglines.
Not that I've seen... MultiMail gets credit, though... :)
Last one gets the credit!
Yup, generally so, as there is only one line available for that sort
of credit... although, I think I vaguely remember seeing some messages
with multiple lines of that sort.... probably something that someone
set up on their own....
There are always ways to modify and expand; it's a matter of others to
use this new 'standard'.
I was thinking more of an individual thing... not something toYou're right: most old software does use the old standards! (I'm
become a new standard.... and besides, old software wouldn't know
about any new standards, so wouldn't/couldn't be using them... :)
soooo in trouble for that one!)
Generally nicer when the new standard has compatibility with the old
- thinking like USB 3 is backwards compatible with USB 2.
OTOH sometimes just not possible: digital TV, though there are adapters for the analog sets.
A lot of times competitors will be shopped to check pricing. Or used
to be -- probably now do the same thing we do at home is check various
web sites.
B&M probably do do at least some of the price-checking in person,
locally... of course, there are almost always some "wicked deal" or
loss leader sales, but generally they do stay rather close to each
other... or boast about how they've got the lowest prices in town...
,,,By one cent! Also have to watch sizes/capacities/fabrics, etc.:
Store A may have a 10 oz. bottle while Store B has 11 oz.
Wegmans is pretty good about comparing equivalents.... of course, theyProbably would pick just the ones advantageous to them! OTOH _occasionally_ could do something where a competitor had a lower
probably pick items where they do have the price advantage... ;) A
poster with all the available items would be too big, so they only
list a dozen or so... ;)
price, red-X through the higher Wegman's price and show the new lower price.
Know with
Large Applances at the store the various competitors (and my store)
got around price matching for the same model as wasn't quite the same
model: got a different model number because something was changed.
And manufacturers would likely make minor changes from one chain toRight, though I'm remembering one specific incident a few years before
another anyway... call it something for one store and another sub-
brand name for another.... :) So of course the model number would
have to be different... :)
I retired with a national brand sold by us and another store up the
Mall. IIRC the only difference was a blue interior light instead of
white -- that different model numbers (of course), and so could not be price- matched which (irritated) the salesman to a high degree as the competitor was lower in price and he was loosing sales (and so commission).
And I think I wrote a while back where I paid a dollar more for the
same item (may have been the same seller) and got the better deal
because that one had free shipping. Actually saved money by paying
more.
You probably did mention that before... and yes, the buyer needs toOn-line I will look around a bit for best or at least better deals: spending an hour on-line to save a penny isn't my way of shopping. Brick-and-mortar shopping -- how much I price compare depends on the
take all sorts of things into consideration to be sure that it is the
best deal... ;)
price and item: I usually start off knowing such-and-such store has
decent prices, so if I like the item it gets purchased - done! OTOH a thousand-dollar refrigerator, we're spending time to get a good price
plus the features we want!
...Trying to sell an item at $100 when everyone else is $20 makes no
sense: too easy to look around.
But probably enough people don't look around, and do take the
first price they see, for the sellers to get away with it....
Ky suggested in another conference (or maybe it was this one) a legal
way to move drug and other not-legally-approved monies.
Probably another conference, as I don't recall the conversation...
but that could also be a factor in some cases....
Also would seem like those selling that way would be an easy target:
law enforcement goes on-line, selects 'Pricing: High to Low', does a
bit of checking as to why the high price, start searching for the
seller.
Money laundering could as easily be done with median-priced items,True: "hiding in the crowd" seems safer than "out in the open" with you've-got-to-be-kidding prices.
so law enforcement might not be able to spot it all that easily....
And that's a large part of my just not bothering with TV at all
any more... ;)
Every show became annoying!
Pretty much, at some point.... ;) And the ones that probably would
have held my interest, I'd either not know about or would forget about
when it actually showed... or Richard would be watching something
else... And now the only TV in the house isn't exactly easily
accessible for me.... ;)
So even less TV! ...Just different forms of entertainment. :)
Exactly... there's bbsing, reading... and so forth.... :)And sometimes one feels like reading and sometimes not. :)
Right: I don't think 'Sedit' shows up anyplace on my source taglines.
Not that I've seen... MultiMail gets credit, though... :)
Last one gets the credit!
Yup, generally so, as there is only one line available for that sort
of credit... although, I think I vaguely remember seeing some messages
with multiple lines of that sort.... probably something that someone
set up on their own....
There are always ways to modify and expand; it's a matter of others to
use this new 'standard'.
I was thinking more of an individual thing... not something toYou're right: most old software does use the old standards! (I'm
become a new standard.... and besides, old software wouldn't know
about any new standards, so wouldn't/couldn't be using them... :)
soooo in trouble for that one!)
That is, however, how many people seem to think... Everyone is
supposed to jump on the bandwagon of the newest and supposedly
greatest... why keep old just because it works fine as it is...
Generally nicer when the new standard has compatibility with the old
- thinking like USB 3 is backwards compatible with USB 2.
I'm a firm believer in backwards compatibility... even though I
get laughed at for expressing that....
OTOH sometimes just not possible: digital TV, though there are adapters for the analog sets.
A form of backwards adaptability, anyway.... ;)
A lot of times competitors will be shopped to check pricing. Or used
to be -- probably now do the same thing we do at home is check various
web sites.
B&M probably do do at least some of the price-checking in person,
locally... of course, there are almost always some "wicked deal" or
loss leader sales, but generally they do stay rather close to each
other... or boast about how they've got the lowest prices in town...
,,,By one cent! Also have to watch sizes/capacities/fabrics, etc.:
Store A may have a 10 oz. bottle while Store B has 11 oz.
Wegmans is pretty good about comparing equivalents.... of course, theyProbably would pick just the ones advantageous to them! OTOH _occasionally_ could do something where a competitor had a lower
probably pick items where they do have the price advantage... ;) A
poster with all the available items would be too big, so they only
list a dozen or so... ;)
price, red-X through the higher Wegman's price and show the new lower price.
I haven't seen that sort of thing done, at least not at
Wegmans... if I were to shop the other stores more, I'd not be
too surprised to find they had listings which put them in a more
favorable light against the other stores, though...
Know with
Large Applances at the store the various competitors (and my store)
got around price matching for the same model as wasn't quite the same
model: got a different model number because something was changed.
And manufacturers would likely make minor changes from one chain toRight, though I'm remembering one specific incident a few years before
another anyway... call it something for one store and another sub-
brand name for another.... :) So of course the model number would
have to be different... :)
I retired with a national brand sold by us and another store up the
Mall. IIRC the only difference was a blue interior light instead of
white -- that different model numbers (of course), and so could not be price- matched which (irritated) the salesman to a high degree as the competitor was lower in price and he was loosing sales (and so commission).
I can see where that would be irritating... seems not
particularly fair of the manufacturer to play along with that....
but I suppose that could be turned upside down, and your store
could have sold it for less than the other store was, and thereby
got the sale.... :)
And I think I wrote a while back where I paid a dollar more for the
same item (may have been the same seller) and got the better deal
because that one had free shipping. Actually saved money by paying
more.
You probably did mention that before... and yes, the buyer needs toOn-line I will look around a bit for best or at least better deals: spending an hour on-line to save a penny isn't my way of shopping. Brick-and-mortar shopping -- how much I price compare depends on the
take all sorts of things into consideration to be sure that it is the
best deal... ;)
price and item: I usually start off knowing such-and-such store has
decent prices, so if I like the item it gets purchased - done! OTOH a thousand-dollar refrigerator, we're spending time to get a good price
plus the features we want!
I don't shop online at all, but with other shopping, I do tend to
know what the prices are at the store(s) I regularly shop at, so
I know if something elsewhere is any sort of a deal... but
generally do tend to shop just at certain stores anyway... :)
And like you, with some major purchase, we'll be looking various
places to get the price and the features (or lack thereof) we
want...
...Trying to sell an item at $100 when everyone else is $20 makes no
sense: too easy to look around.
But probably enough people don't look around, and do take the
first price they see, for the sellers to get away with it....
Ky suggested in another conference (or maybe it was this one) a legal
way to move drug and other not-legally-approved monies.
Probably another conference, as I don't recall the conversation...
but that could also be a factor in some cases....
Also would seem like those selling that way would be an easy target:
law enforcement goes on-line, selects 'Pricing: High to Low', does a
bit of checking as to why the high price, start searching for the
seller.
Money laundering could as easily be done with median-priced items,True: "hiding in the crowd" seems safer than "out in the open" with you've-got-to-be-kidding prices.
so law enforcement might not be able to spot it all that easily....
The number one rule of not getting in trouble with the law is
Don't Attract Attention.... ;)
And that's a large part of my just not bothering with TV at all
any more... ;)
Every show became annoying!
Pretty much, at some point.... ;) And the ones that probably would
have held my interest, I'd either not know about or would forget about
when it actually showed... or Richard would be watching something
else... And now the only TV in the house isn't exactly easily
accessible for me.... ;)
So even less TV! ...Just different forms of entertainment. :)
Exactly... there's bbsing, reading... and so forth.... :)And sometimes one feels like reading and sometimes not. :)
I have various sorts of reading available to me, as well... ;)
And if the eyes are tired, one can always take a nap.... <G>
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 11-Apr-2020 09:14 <=-
There are always ways to modify and expand; it's a matter of others to
use this new 'standard'.
I was thinking more of an individual thing... not something to
become a new standard.... and besides, old software wouldn't know
about any new standards, so wouldn't/couldn't be using them... :)
You're right: most old software does use the old standards! (I'm
soooo in trouble for that one!)
That is, however, how many people seem to think... Everyone isWe're not 'everybody'! 'New and improved' might be better, but is it better for me? I usually don't need the latest and greatest,
supposed to jump on the bandwagon of the newest and supposedly
greatest... why keep old just because it works fine as it is...
...and I'm trying to think of an example where I did go "I gotta have that!" and bought. Ummm.... Not I don't embrace change, just usually
wait until they get the kinks out (and the initial price comes down!).
Generally nicer when the new standard has compatibility with the old
- thinking like USB 3 is backwards compatible with USB 2.
I'm a firm believer in backwards compatibility... even though ITo me makes sense: data on a USB 3 thumbdrive -- try to stick it into
get laughed at for expressing that....
a USB 2 port and doesn't work - gaaa!! Of course some things just
won't work together: try sticking a VHS cassette into a DVD player! Though they did have VHS/DVD devices - just 'cheated' and had two
devices in one unit.
Wegmans is pretty good about comparing equivalents.... of course, they
probably pick items where they do have the price advantage... ;) A
poster with all the available items would be too big, so they only
list a dozen or so... ;)
Probably would pick just the ones advantageous to them! OTOH
_occasionally_ could do something where a competitor had a lower
price, red-X through the higher Wegman's price and show the new lower
price.
I haven't seen that sort of thing done, at least not at Wegmans... ifThat would tend to make sense! I've also noticed some grocery
I were to shop the other stores more, I'd not be too surprised to
find they had listings which put them in a more favorable light
against the other stores, though...
products have a rotation of who has it on sale this week. Noted in the past where Hy-Vee will have the brand of supplements I take on sale
this week, next week Walgreens wiil, following week someone else.....
Right, though I'm remembering one specific incident a few years before
I retired with a national brand sold by us and another store up the
Mall. IIRC the only difference was a blue interior light instead of
white -- that different model numbers (of course), and so could not be
price- matched which (irritated) the salesman to a high degree as the
competitor was lower in price and he was loosing sales (and so
commission).
I can see where that would be irritating... seems not particularlyYes, I suppose there is some logic down the road somewhere. Not sure
fair of the manufacturer to play along with that.... but I suppose
that could be turned upside down, and your store could have sold it
for less than the other store was, and thereby got the sale.... :)
if the manufacturer really cared: you want a blue light, buy enough,
sure! You want with a flimsy roller that is going to break and make us look bad? No.
On-line I will look around a bit for best or at least better deals:
spending an hour on-line to save a penny isn't my way of shopping.
Brick-and-mortar shopping -- how much I price compare depends on the
price and item: I usually start off knowing such-and-such store has
decent prices, so if I like the item it gets purchased - done! OTOH a
thousand-dollar refrigerator, we're spending time to get a good price
plus the features we want!
I don't shop online at all, but with other shopping, I do tend to knowPart of my 'best deal' requirements depends on where the item is going
what the prices are at the store(s) I regularly shop at, so I know if
something elsewhere is any sort of a deal... but generally do tend to
shop just at certain stores anyway... :) And like you, with some
major purchase, we'll be looking various places to get the price and
and the features (or lack thereof) we want...
to be located. Washer and dryer are in the basement, on the
'unfinished' side, so I could really care less what colour they are or even if they match. And 72-different washing and cooling
temperatures? Only ever use three. OTOH the refrigerator probably
needs to be white, maybe black, to match. Nothing wrong with stainless steel but wouldn't look right. We use the through-the-door water and
ice, so for us is a requirment; can understand why not for other folks.
Computer stuff I don't care to look inside except when I'm working on
it, so clear panels, LED lighting, to me interesting for about five seconds. OTOH did see while back a case with a medium-resolution
display on the case -- hmm: maybe put the weather stuff on it??!!
Also would seem like those selling that way would be an easy target:
law enforcement goes on-line, selects 'Pricing: High to Low', does a
bit of checking as to why the high price, start searching for the
seller.
Money laundering could as easily be done with median-priced items,
so law enforcement might not be able to spot it all that easily....
True: "hiding in the crowd" seems safer than "out in the open" with
you've-got-to-be-kidding prices.
The number one rule of not getting in trouble with the law is Don't<chuckle> Haven't heard/read about it lately but for a while there
Attract Attention.... ;)
were lots of regional drug busts because the driver was speeding. 80
MPH in a 65 tends to attract attention!
There are always ways to modify and expand; it's a matter of others to
use this new 'standard'.
I was thinking more of an individual thing... not something to
become a new standard.... and besides, old software wouldn't know
about any new standards, so wouldn't/couldn't be using them... :)
You're right: most old software does use the old standards! (I'm
soooo in trouble for that one!)
That is, however, how many people seem to think... Everyone isWe're not 'everybody'! 'New and improved' might be better, but is it better for me? I usually don't need the latest and greatest,
supposed to jump on the bandwagon of the newest and supposedly
greatest... why keep old just because it works fine as it is...
Indeed. And from my point of view, not having to learn new
spells is a major goodness... :)
...and I'm trying to think of an example where I did go "I gotta have that!" and bought. Ummm.... Not I don't embrace change, just usually
wait until they get the kinks out (and the initial price comes down!).
Richard's more likely to go for change than I am... but he also
waits for the kinks to be taken care of and the price to come
down... :)
Generally nicer when the new standard has compatibility with the old
- thinking like USB 3 is backwards compatible with USB 2.
I'm a firm believer in backwards compatibility... even though ITo me makes sense: data on a USB 3 thumbdrive -- try to stick it into
get laughed at for expressing that....
a USB 2 port and doesn't work - gaaa!! Of course some things just
won't work together: try sticking a VHS cassette into a DVD player!
Though they did have VHS/DVD devices - just 'cheated' and had two
devices in one unit.
On my computer, the tower has a zipdrive disk slot, and a
CD-ROM... and also, in one slot of the tower a dual drive with a
slot for each of the 3 1/2 and the 5 1/4 floppies... The original
computer had a drive for the SSSD disks and another for the DSHD
disks... that still sits to the side of the computer desk, with
the printer sitting atop it... :)
What I use for a laptop, though, keeps getting upgraded....
recently Richard replaced the one I was using (that was having
the battery issues) with a Dell.... much larger, different
capabilities, etc... I'm working on familiarizing myself with
it...
Wegmans is pretty good about comparing equivalents.... of course, they
probably pick items where they do have the price advantage... ;) A
poster with all the available items would be too big, so they only
list a dozen or so... ;)
Probably would pick just the ones advantageous to them! OTOH
_occasionally_ could do something where a competitor had a lower
price, red-X through the higher Wegman's price and show the new lower
price.
I haven't seen that sort of thing done, at least not at Wegmans... ifThat would tend to make sense! I've also noticed some grocery
I were to shop the other stores more, I'd not be too surprised to
find they had listings which put them in a more favorable light
against the other stores, though...
products have a rotation of who has it on sale this week. Noted in the past where Hy-Vee will have the brand of supplements I take on sale
this week, next week Walgreens will, following week someone else.....
There aren't a lot of things I pay attention to the circulars
for... if the sale is actually originating from the
manufacturer/supplier, it could make sense to have the sales
"make the rounds" of the different stores, though...
Right, though I'm remembering one specific incident a few years before
I retired with a national brand sold by us and another store up the
Mall. IIRC the only difference was a blue interior light instead of
white -- that different model numbers (of course), and so could not be
price- matched which (irritated) the salesman to a high degree as the
competitor was lower in price and he was loosing sales (and so
commission).
I can see where that would be irritating... seems not particularlyYes, I suppose there is some logic down the road somewhere. Not sure
fair of the manufacturer to play along with that.... but I suppose
that could be turned upside down, and your store could have sold it
for less than the other store was, and thereby got the sale.... :)
if the manufacturer really cared: you want a blue light, buy enough,
sure! You want with a flimsy roller that is going to break and make us look bad? No.
The differentiating at least needs to uphold the quality of the
product, after all... ;)
On-line I will look around a bit for best or at least better deals:
spending an hour on-line to save a penny isn't my way of shopping.
Brick-and-mortar shopping -- how much I price compare depends on the
price and item: I usually start off knowing such-and-such store has
decent prices, so if I like the item it gets purchased - done! OTOH a
thousand-dollar refrigerator, we're spending time to get a good price
plus the features we want!
I don't shop online at all, but with other shopping, I do tend to knowPart of my 'best deal' requirements depends on where the item is going
what the prices are at the store(s) I regularly shop at, so I know if
something elsewhere is any sort of a deal... but generally do tend to
shop just at certain stores anyway... :) And like you, with some
major purchase, we'll be looking various places to get the price and
and the features (or lack thereof) we want...
to be located. Washer and dryer are in the basement, on the
'unfinished' side, so I could really care less what colour they are or even if they match. And 72-different washing and cooling
temperatures? Only ever use three. OTOH the refrigerator probably
needs to be white, maybe black, to match. Nothing wrong with stainless steel but wouldn't look right. We use the through-the-door water and
ice, so for us is a requirment; can understand why not for other folks.
We'd be similar on the washer/dryer to you... but for us, the
water and ice in/on the fridge would be a liability... we'd just
as soon have the extra space they consume available, as well...
but we would be a little more particular about the color....
Computer stuff I don't care to look inside except when I'm working on
it, so clear panels, LED lighting, to me interesting for about five seconds. OTOH did see while back a case with a medium-resolution
display on the case -- hmm: maybe put the weather stuff on it??!!
Yup, some of the bells and whistles are just distractions... ;)
But if one has a valid use for it, then maybe.... ;)
Also would seem like those selling that way would be an easy target:
law enforcement goes on-line, selects 'Pricing: High to Low', does a
bit of checking as to why the high price, start searching for the
seller.
Money laundering could as easily be done with median-priced items,
so law enforcement might not be able to spot it all that easily....
True: "hiding in the crowd" seems safer than "out in the open" with
you've-got-to-be-kidding prices.
The number one rule of not getting in trouble with the law is Don't<chuckle> Haven't heard/read about it lately but for a while there
Attract Attention.... ;)
were lots of regional drug busts because the driver was speeding. 80
MPH in a 65 tends to attract attention!
Contenders for the Darwin Award, I'd say... <G>
... I like my eggs hatched, raised, plucked & fried in crispy
batter
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 23-Apr-2020 10:33 <=-
That is, however, how many people seem to think... Everyone is
supposed to jump on the bandwagon of the newest and supposedly
greatest... why keep old just because it works fine as it is...
We're not 'everybody'! 'New and improved' might be better, but is it
better for me? I usually don't need the latest and greatest,
Indeed. And from my point of view, not having to learn new spellsTrue! And sometimes with the new they took away an option used by a
is a major goodness... :)
Magic Spell so no longer works. May be 'new' but for that option not
an 'improved'.
...and I'm trying to think of an example where I did go "I gotta have
that!" and bought. Ummm.... Not I don't embrace change, just usually
wait until they get the kinks out (and the initial price comes down!).
Richard's more likely to go for change than I am... but he also waitsHere too: glad there are those someones who buy the "latest and
for the kinks to be taken care of and the price to come down... :)
greatest" and so effectively test out for me.
Generally nicer when the new standard has compatibility with the old
- thinking like USB 3 is backwards compatible with USB 2.
I'm a firm believer in backwards compatibility... even though I
get laughed at for expressing that....
To me makes sense: data on a USB 3 thumbdrive -- try to stick it into
a USB 2 port and doesn't work - gaaa!! Of course some things just
won't work together: try sticking a VHS cassette into a DVD player!
Though they did have VHS/DVD devices - just 'cheated' and had two
devices in one unit.
On my computer, the tower has a zipdrive disk slot, and a CD-ROM...Years back I purchasd a refurbished computer with a Zipdrive in it;
and also, in one slot of the tower a dual drive with a slot for each
of the 3 1/2 and the 5 1/4 floppies... The original computer had a
drive for the SSSD disks and another for the DSHD disks... that still
sits to the side of the computer desk, with the printer sitting atop
it... :)
didn't buy the computer just because of the Zipdrive but did select it over another one without -- at the time figured could be handy to have
the Zipdrive. Never did get used (no media).
Also have 3«- and 5¬-inch drives -- stored. Used to install on a computer as I was building but used less and less until not at all. I
did get a 3«" USB floppy several years back (probably a lot longer
than 'several') but haven't used that in I don't know how long.
What I use for a laptop, though, keeps getting upgraded....I never quite got in to laptops and notebooks. Have, just rarely use; prefer the bigger screen, a full-sized keyboard, etc. I know can plug those into the laptop. I guess more started because when I was away
recently Richard replaced the one I was using (that was having the
battery issues) with a Dell... much larger, different capabilities,
etc... I'm working on familiarizing myself with it...
from the computer I didn't want it following me: if I'm outside I want
to take a break from the computer.
I haven't seen that sort of thing done, at least not at Wegmans... if
I were to shop the other stores more, I'd not be too surprised to
find they had listings which put them in a more favorable light
against the other stores, though...
That would tend to make sense! I've also noticed some grocery
products have a rotation of who has it on sale this week. Noted in the
past where Hy-Vee will have the brand of supplements I take on sale
this week, next week Walgreens will, following week someone else.....
There aren't a lot of things I pay attention to the circulars for...About the only thing we compare for price is the Christmas Turkey. I don't think have ever purchased at Hy-Vee because it seems their offer
if the sale is actually originating from the manufacturer/supplier,
it could make sense to have the sales "make the rounds" of the
different stores, though...
is always buy a ham, get a free turkey. We don't need a ham!
Schnuck's, Target, Walmart, Aldi usually have a week with a
super-cheap price and get it then, making room in the freezer here
until time to thaw.
Yes, I suppose there is some logic down the road somewhere. Not sure
if the manufacturer really cared: you want a blue light, buy enough,
sure! You want with a flimsy roller that is going to break and make us
look bad? No.
The differentiating at least needs to uphold the quality of the"Blue LEDs rule!" "White light is right!" <g> In this instance
product, after all... ;)
there were no other differences but when we were shopping around for
a refrigerator noting things like the shelving: open racks vs. solid shelves, number, if could be moved. Lighting in the refrigerator and freezer compartments would be a yes, what colour - egh!
We'd be similar on the washer/dryer to you... but for us, the waterWhen you look around for a new 'fridge the water in the door option probably doesn't take too much room: small container in the back of
and ice in/on the fridge would be a liability... we'd just as soon
have the extra space they consume available, as well... but we would
be a little more particular about the color....
the refrigerator to cool the water, a spigot area on the front door.
Now as for the ice creation and storage -- that's a huge space-taker!
Computer stuff I don't care to look inside except when I'm working on
it, so clear panels, LED lighting, to me interesting for about five
seconds. OTOH did see while back a case with a medium-resolution
display on the case -- hmm: maybe put the weather stuff on it??!!
Yup, some of the bells and whistles are just distractions... ;)For me the display on the side of the computer case could be of
But if one has a valid use for it, then maybe.... ;)
interest. Would require some rearranging: currently this computer is
on a little table (UPS is under the table) off the right side of the Computer Desk - would either need to be elevated or probably make more sense just to put the the computer on the end of the desk and use the
top of the table for storage. ...And one has to remember the computer case's display is on the left side; I temporarily put the backup
computer on the left side of the desk and in that configuration the display would not show!
As for being able to look inside - egh! I can't tell at a glance one
CPU from another, plus they're covered by a fan and heatsink anyway.
RAM: some have pretty heat sinks. Nothing moves except the fans.
Looking at the wiring arangement - <shrug>. Seems mine always gets screwed up: starts off nice and neat but then something: forgot
connection between the DVD and the motherboard, installed the
motherboard speaker backwards....
The number one rule of not getting in trouble with the law is Don't
Attract Attention.... ;)
<chuckle> Haven't heard/read about it lately but for a while there
were lots of regional drug busts because the driver was speeding. 80
MPH in a 65 tends to attract attention!
Contenders for the Darwin Award, I'd say... <G>Appears so!! Haven't heard anything lately on the news; doubt if ran
out!
That is, however, how many people seem to think... Everyone is
supposed to jump on the bandwagon of the newest and supposedly
greatest... why keep old just because it works fine as it is...
We're not 'everybody'! 'New and improved' might be better, but is it
better for me? I usually don't need the latest and greatest,
Indeed. And from my point of view, not having to learn new spellsTrue! And sometimes with the new they took away an option used by a
is a major goodness... :)
Magic Spell so no longer works. May be 'new' but for that option not
an 'improved'.
Indeed...!!
Generally nicer when the new standard has compatibility with the old
- thinking like USB 3 is backwards compatible with USB 2.
I'm a firm believer in backwards compatibility... even though I
get laughed at for expressing that....
To me makes sense: data on a USB 3 thumbdrive -- try to stick it into
a USB 2 port and doesn't work - gaaa!! Of course some things just
won't work together: try sticking a VHS cassette into a DVD player!
Though they did have VHS/DVD devices - just 'cheated' and had two
devices in one unit.
On my computer, the tower has a zipdrive disk slot, and a CD-ROM...Years back I purchasd a refurbished computer with a Zipdrive in it;
and also, in one slot of the tower a dual drive with a slot for each
of the 3 1/2 and the 5 1/4 floppies... The original computer had a
drive for the SSSD disks and another for the DSHD disks... that still
sits to the side of the computer desk, with the printer sitting atop
it... :)
didn't buy the computer just because of the Zipdrive but did select it over another one without -- at the time figured could be handy to have
the Zipdrive. Never did get used (no media).
I use the Zipdrive disks for storage all the time... and for a
while was using them to download HUGE files onto, since they have
more capacity...
Also have 3«- and 5¬-inch drives -- stored. Used to install on a computer as I was building but used less and less until not at all. I
did get a 3«" USB floppy several years back (probably a lot longer
than 'several') but haven't used that in I don't know how long.
Richard got one of those 3 1/2" USB floppy drives, and uses it
for "sneakernet" to the Windows10 touchscreen machine.... for any
of the other machines I think there's a 3 1/2" drive installed
for "sneaker netting"...
What I use for a laptop, though, keeps getting upgraded....I never quite got in to laptops and notebooks. Have, just rarely use; prefer the bigger screen, a full-sized keyboard, etc. I know can plug those into the laptop. I guess more started because when I was away
recently Richard replaced the one I was using (that was having the
battery issues) with a Dell... much larger, different capabilities,
etc... I'm working on familiarizing myself with it...
from the computer I didn't want it following me: if I'm outside I want
to take a break from the computer.
I use it when traveling, mostly... Back in the bad old days, I'd
use it to be reading the day before's packet while spending all
evening downloading the new message packet(s)... <G>
I haven't seen that sort of thing done, at least not at Wegmans... if
I were to shop the other stores more, I'd not be too surprised to
find they had listings which put them in a more favorable light
against the other stores, though...
That would tend to make sense! I've also noticed some grocery
products have a rotation of who has it on sale this week. Noted in the
past where Hy-Vee will have the brand of supplements I take on sale
this week, next week Walgreens will, following week someone else.....
There aren't a lot of things I pay attention to the circulars for...About the only thing we compare for price is the Christmas Turkey. I don't think have ever purchased at Hy-Vee because it seems their offer
if the sale is actually originating from the manufacturer/supplier,
it could make sense to have the sales "make the rounds" of the
different stores, though...
is always buy a ham, get a free turkey. We don't need a ham!
Schnuck's, Target, Walmart, Aldi usually have a week with a
super-cheap price and get it then, making room in the freezer here
until time to thaw.
We don't get the turkey, either... ;) I'll generally buy a
package of two turkey thighs, and that will do us (especially as
we much prefer the dark meat, not the breast)... but then, we are generally going somewhere else for Thanksgiving and for
Christmas, so another reason not to need for the festivity...
Wegmans generally has some sort of decent price per pound on it
for the holidays, though... if we were interested...
Yes, I suppose there is some logic down the road somewhere. Not sure
if the manufacturer really cared: you want a blue light, buy enough,
sure! You want with a flimsy roller that is going to break and make us
look bad? No.
The differentiating at least needs to uphold the quality of the"Blue LEDs rule!" "White light is right!" <g> In this instance
product, after all... ;)
there were no other differences but when we were shopping around for
a refrigerator noting things like the shelving: open racks vs. solid shelves, number, if could be moved. Lighting in the refrigerator and freezer compartments would be a yes, what colour - egh!
Yup, shelving was something we paid attention to, also...
especially the flexibility and ease of cleaning... No light in
our freezer, though... :)
We'd be similar on the washer/dryer to you... but for us, the waterWhen you look around for a new 'fridge the water in the door option probably doesn't take too much room: small container in the back of
and ice in/on the fridge would be a liability... we'd just as soon
have the extra space they consume available, as well... but we would
be a little more particular about the color....
the refrigerator to cool the water, a spigot area on the front door.
Still something else to break down... ;) And might still take up
more space than I'd want it to... :)
Computer stuff I don't care to look inside except when I'm working on
it, so clear panels, LED lighting, to me interesting for about five
seconds. OTOH did see while back a case with a medium-resolution
display on the case -- hmm: maybe put the weather stuff on it??!!
Yup, some of the bells and whistles are just distractions... ;)For me the display on the side of the computer case could be of
But if one has a valid use for it, then maybe.... ;)
interest. Would require some rearranging: currently this computer is
on a little table (UPS is under the table) off the right side of the Computer Desk - would either need to be elevated or probably make more sense just to put the the computer on the end of the desk and use the
top of the table for storage. ...And one has to remember the computer case's display is on the left side; I temporarily put the backup
computer on the left side of the desk and in that configuration the display would not show!
Yup, you'd need to rearrange for that to work for you.... ;)
The number one rule of not getting in trouble with the law is Don't
Attract Attention.... ;)
<chuckle> Haven't heard/read about it lately but for a while there
were lots of regional drug busts because the driver was speeding. 80
MPH in a 65 tends to attract attention!
Contenders for the Darwin Award, I'd say... <G>Appears so!! Haven't heard anything lately on the news; doubt if ran
out!
Maybe there's too much else happening.....
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