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    From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Wed Sep 18 01:35:00 2019
    Quoting Barry Martin to Daryl Stout on 09-Sep-2019 07:16 <=-

    A lot of my disabilities are hidden. What really gripes me is
    the vehicles that have NO EVIDENCE of a hangtag or license plate,
    indicating disability, parking in the space.
    That's a difference! The bad part is perhaps a disabled person is borrowing a vehicle and so has a valid permit, just is in/on their own vehicle. ...I never really thought of it but if a person has a car or
    van with disabled plates and takes that vehicle in for repair and
    borrows a vehicle, then what? The handicap permit is on the other vehicle, and while could be removed the plate is legal only to the original vehicle, not the one being borrowed.

    At least here in NYS, I think that if one has the disabled plates, one
    can also get the hangtag for just such instances as that... I'll have
    to check with a friend of mine that does have the plates on her
    vehicle... all I have is the hangtag itself....

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Wed Sep 18 08:00:00 2019

    Hi Nancy!

    A lot of my disabilities are hidden. What really gripes me is
    the vehicles that have NO EVIDENCE of a hangtag or license plate,
    indicating disability, parking in the space.
    That's a difference! The bad part is perhaps a disabled person is borrowing a vehicle and so has a valid permit, just is in/on their own vehicle. ...I never really thought of it but if a person has a car or
    van with disabled plates and takes that vehicle in for repair and
    borrows a vehicle, then what? The handicap permit is on the other vehicle, and while could be removed the plate is legal only to the original vehicle, not the one being borrowed.
    At least here in NYS, I think that if one has the disabled
    plates, one can also get the hangtag for just such instances as
    that... I'll have to check with a friend of mine that does have
    the plates on her vehicle... all I have is the hangtag itself....

    I had the temporary hangtag. In Iowa can have multiple identifiers:

    Multiple Permits

    - Persons with disabilities plates may be issued to all vehicles
    titled in the person with disabilities' name.
    - Two removable windshield placards may be issued for each person
    with a disability.
    - Persons with disabilities parking stickers may be issued to
    all vehicles titled in the person with disabilities name.

    Appears one still needs to plan ahead: if has the license plate one
    needs to plan ahead to have a temporary hangtag for when the car is in
    repair.


    ... Technically horrible stuff, but somehow very tasty.

    You must be talking about that fast food place serving stir fry in the
    other message! <g>


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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Tue Sep 24 16:03:28 2019
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 18-Sep-2019 08:00 <=-

    That's a difference! The bad part is perhaps a disabled person is
    borrowing a vehicle and so has a valid permit, just is in/on their own
    vehicle. ...I never really thought of it but if a person has a car or
    van with disabled plates and takes that vehicle in for repair and
    borrows a vehicle, then what? The handicap permit is on the other
    vehicle, and while could be removed the plate is legal only to the
    original vehicle, not the one being borrowed.
    At least here in NYS, I think that if one has the disabled plates, one
    can also get the hangtag for just such instances as that... I'll have
    to check with a friend of mine that does have the plates on her
    vehicle... all I have is the hangtag itself....
    I had the temporary hangtag.

    At least with the hangtag, one can take it from vehicle to vehicle...

    In Iowa can have multiple identifiers:
    Multiple Permits
    - Persons with disabilities plates may be issued to all vehicles
    titled in the person with disabilities' name.
    - Two removable windshield placards may be issued for each person
    with a disability.
    - Persons with disabilities parking stickers may be issued to
    all vehicles titled in the person with disabilities name.

    I don't think NYS has diabilities parking stickers... and I think one is limited to one hangtag per person, here... I'd have to research deeper
    to find out if the "plates to all vehicles titled in name" applies here,
    too...

    Appears one still needs to plan ahead: if has the license plate one
    needs to plan ahead to have a temporary hangtag for when the car is in repair.

    I vaguely recall on the permit application that one could choose plates, hangtag or both... I got my tag a few years ago....

    ... Technically horrible stuff, but somehow very tasty.
    You must be talking about that fast food place serving stir fry in the other message! <g>

    Oh, I don't think the fastfood place's stir fry would even be
    technically horrible, even to the average joe... ;) But it might apply
    to the general perception of most offal foods.... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Wed Sep 25 08:57:00 2019

    Hi Nancy!

    That's a difference! The bad part is perhaps a disabled person is
    borrowing a vehicle and so has a valid permit, just is in/on their own
    vehicle. ...I never really thought of it but if a person has a car or
    van with disabled plates and takes that vehicle in for repair and
    borrows a vehicle, then what? The handicap permit is on the other
    vehicle, and while could be removed the plate is legal only to the
    original vehicle, not the one being borrowed.
    At least here in NYS, I think that if one has the disabled plates, one
    can also get the hangtag for just such instances as that... I'll have
    to check with a friend of mine that does have the plates on her
    vehicle... all I have is the hangtag itself....
    I had the temporary hangtag.
    At least with the hangtag, one can take it from vehicle to
    vehicle...

    True. To me would make sense to have a 'portable' hangtag, not just for
    when the regular vehicle needs repair but those times when a passenger. ...OTOH there were times when I preferred not to park in a spot (when I
    was authorized). My car is a 'little wind-up' and parking amongst the
    vans and SUVs hard to see around them to back out. (Backup camera would
    have been handy.)



    In Iowa can have multiple identifiers:
    Multiple Permits
    - Persons with disabilities plates may be issued to all vehicles
    titled in the person with disabilities' name.
    - Two removable windshield placards may be issued for each person
    with a disability.
    - Persons with disabilities parking stickers may be issued to
    all vehicles titled in the person with disabilities name.
    I don't think NYS has diabilities parking stickers... and I think
    one is limited to one hangtag per person, here... I'd have to
    research deeper to find out if the "plates to all vehicles titled
    in name" applies here, too...

    Regulations vary by state -- no wonder tourists get confused! <g>



    Appears one still needs to plan ahead: if has the license plate one
    needs to plan ahead to have a temporary hangtag for when the car is in repair.
    I vaguely recall on the permit application that one could choose
    plates, hangtag or both... I got my tag a few years ago....

    If I need one I'd be re-checking the regulations as has been ten years
    since I fell-down-and-go-boom'd - a few things have probably changed.
    To my thinking a permanent plate on the car plus a portable hangtag
    makes sense.


    ... Technically horrible stuff, but somehow very tasty.
    You must be talking about that fast food place serving stir fry in the other message! <g>
    Oh, I don't think the fastfood place's stir fry would even be
    technically horrible, even to the average joe... ;) But it might
    apply to the general perception of most offal foods.... :)

    Some might be tatsy until find out what they are!

    _ /|
    \'o.O'
    =(__)=
    U Ack!!



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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to BARRY MARTIN on Thu Sep 26 14:15:00 2019
    Barry,


    _ /|
    \'o.O'
    =(__)=
    U Ack!!

    TTTTTHHHHHPPPPPBBBBBTTTTT!! I miss Bloom County, Bill The Cat, and
    Opus The Penguin.

    Daryl

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Sat Sep 28 07:01:00 2019

    Hi Daryl!

    _ /|
    \'o.O'
    =(__)=
    U Ack!!
    TTTTTHHHHHPPPPPBBBBBTTTTT!! I miss Bloom County, Bill The Cat,
    and Opus The Penguin.

    Yes, I do too. Years ago someone got me a small Opus and he sits on the Computer Desk overseeing things.


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    I wonder if bananas bend towards the Sun?


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  • From Mike Powell@454:1/105 to BARRY MARTIN on Sun Sep 29 15:42:00 2019
    _ /|
    \'o.O'
    =(__)=
    U Ack!!
    TTTTTHHHHHPPPPPBBBBBTTTTT!! I miss Bloom County, Bill The Cat,
    and Opus The Penguin.

    Yes, I do too. Years ago someone got me a small Opus and he sits on the Computer Desk overseeing things.

    Barry (and Daryl),
    Berkeley Breathed (sp?) has started producing the comic again, and has been
    for a least a year now. It is published to facebook (at least) and
    possibly other places.

    Mike

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Mike Powell on Mon Sep 30 06:41:00 2019

    Hi Mike!
    _ /|
    \'o.O'
    =(__)=
    U Ack!!
    TTTTTHHHHHPPPPPBBBBBTTTTT!! I miss Bloom County, Bill The Cat,
    and Opus The Penguin.
    Barry (and Daryl),
    Berkeley Breathed (sp?) has started producing the comic again,
    and has been for a least a year now. It is published to facebook
    (at least) and possibly other places.

    A quick search came up with Facebook and GoComics.com (googled "Bloom
    County", it suggested '2019' so went with that one). ...Gee, who does
    the kid remind me of? <g>



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  • From Mike Powell@454:1/105 to BARRY MARTIN on Tue Oct 1 18:17:00 2019
    A quick search came up with Facebook and GoComics.com (googled "Bloom County", it suggested '2019' so went with that one). ...Gee, who does
    the kid remind me of? <g>

    Glad to hear you can get to it from somewhere besides FB. IIRC, there used
    to be a site that contained multiple comics that were still being published
    in the papers... maybe a day behind, and it kept at least two weeks worth. Maybe that is the site.

    Mike

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Mike Powell on Wed Oct 2 06:59:00 2019

    Hi Mike!

    A quick search came up with Facebook and GoComics.com (googled "Bloom County", it suggested '2019' so went with that one). ...Gee, who does
    the kid remind me of? <g>
    Glad to hear you can get to it from somewhere besides FB. IIRC,
    there used to be a site that contained multiple comics that were
    still being published in the papers... maybe a day behind, and it
    kept at least two weeks worth. Maybe that is the site.

    I think you're right: I remember getting two or three comics emailed
    years ago and suddenly that sputtered and stopped.



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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Tue Oct 8 15:14:04 2019
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 25-Sep-2019 08:57 <=-

    ...I never really thought of it but if a person has a car or
    van with disabled plates and takes that vehicle in for repair and
    borrows a vehicle, then what? The handicap permit is on the other
    vehicle, and while could be removed the plate is legal only to the
    original vehicle, not the one being borrowed.
    At least here in NYS, I think that if one has the disabled plates, one
    can also get the hangtag for just such instances as that... I'll have
    to check with a friend of mine that does have the plates on her
    vehicle... all I have is the hangtag itself....
    I had the temporary hangtag.
    At least with the hangtag, one can take it from vehicle to vehicle...
    True. To me would make sense to have a 'portable' hangtag, not just
    for when the regular vehicle needs repair but those times when a passenger.

    Before I had my permanent hangtag, I regularly transported a few people
    that just brought their hangtag with them, to be hung in whatever
    vehicle they were riding in... now I just use mine... and try to
    remember to take it with me if I'm riding in another vehicle than my
    own... ;) It's registered to the person, not the vehicle...

    ...OTOH there were times when I preferred not to park in a
    spot (when I was authorized). My car is a 'little wind-up' and parking amongst the vans and SUVs hard to see around them to back out. (Backup camera would have been handy.)

    Backup cameras don't show you what's coming from the left and right
    around those behemoths, though.... just what's behind you... the rentals
    I've used have had them... :)

    In Iowa can have multiple identifiers:
    Multiple Permits
    - Persons with disabilities plates may be issued to all vehicles
    titled in the person with disabilities' name.
    - Two removable windshield placards may be issued for each person
    with a disability.
    - Persons with disabilities parking stickers may be issued to
    all vehicles titled in the person with disabilities name.
    I don't think NYS has diabilities parking stickers... and I think
    one is limited to one hangtag per person, here... I'd have to
    research deeper to find out if the "plates to all vehicles titled
    in name" applies here, too...
    Regulations vary by state -- no wonder tourists get confused! <g>

    That they do... I'm pretty sure though that all states have reciprocity agreements where the issuing state's disability "markers" are accepted
    by the other states... :)

    Appears one still needs to plan ahead: if has the license plate one
    needs to plan ahead to have a temporary hangtag for when the car is in
    repair.
    I vaguely recall on the permit application that one could choose
    plates, hangtag or both... I got my tag a few years ago....
    If I need one I'd be re-checking the regulations as has been ten years since I fell-down-and-go-boom'd - a few things have probably changed.
    To my thinking a permanent plate on the car plus a portable hangtag
    makes sense.

    It does, for all the reasons we've already stated... ;) I had a
    temporary tag when I broke my ankle, too... got the permanent one for
    myself more recently... my doctor agreed that it would be a good idea
    for me to have it...

    ... Technically horrible stuff, but somehow very tasty.
    You must be talking about that fast food place serving stir fry in the
    other message! <g>
    Oh, I don't think the fastfood place's stir fry would even be
    technically horrible, even to the average joe... ;) But it might
    apply to the general perception of most offal foods.... :)
    Some might be tatsy until find out what they are!

    Actually, they are tasty, even when one does know what they are... :)
    We've done "full-disclosure" tastings of such at various Cooking Echo Picnics.... this year it was steak and kidney pie... actually lamb
    kidneys and shoulder roast cut up... When the kidney was just cooked,
    before adding it to the pie, each of us had a little piece to taste...
    and everyone, even the doubters, agreed that it really was quite nice...
    and enjoyed the final product as well... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Wed Oct 9 09:27:00 2019

    Hi Nancy!

    ...I never really thought of it but if a person has a car or
    van with disabled plates and takes that vehicle in for repair and
    borrows a vehicle, then what? The handicap permit is on the other
    vehicle, and while could be removed the plate is legal only to the
    original vehicle, not the one being borrowed.
    At least here in NYS, I think that if one has the disabled plates, one
    can also get the hangtag for just such instances as that... I'll have
    to check with a friend of mine that does have the plates on her
    vehicle... all I have is the hangtag itself....
    I had the temporary hangtag.
    At least with the hangtag, one can take it from vehicle to vehicle...
    True. To me would make sense to have a 'portable' hangtag, not just
    for when the regular vehicle needs repair but those times when a passenger.
    Before I had my permanent hangtag, I regularly transported a few
    people that just brought their hangtag with them, to be hung in
    whatever vehicle they were riding in... now I just use mine...
    and try to remember to take it with me if I'm riding in another
    vehicle than my own... ;) It's registered to the person, not the vehicle...

    Right on the hangtag being registered to person and not the vehicle.
    And could see where easy enough to forget to take the hangtag down from
    the mirror when finally leaving the vehicle: get distracted, etc.
    ...Carry a spare?! <g>


    ...OTOH there were times when I preferred not to park in a
    spot (when I was authorized). My car is a 'little wind-up' and parking amongst the vans and SUVs hard to see around them to back out. (Backup camera would have been handy.)
    Backup cameras don't show you what's coming from the left and
    right around those behemoths, though.... just what's behind
    you... the rentals I've used have had them... :)

    I knew the older cameras did not show side views, thought the new ones
    were starting to. I'd still not rely on eventual side-view camera: use
    as an adjunct to what I observe. IOW "looks clear in the viewfinder"
    does not mean slam the car in reverse and go.


    In Iowa can have multiple identifiers:
    Multiple Permits
    - Persons with disabilities plates may be issued to all vehicles
    titled in the person with disabilities' name.
    - Two removable windshield placards may be issued for each person
    with a disability.
    - Persons with disabilities parking stickers may be issued to
    all vehicles titled in the person with disabilities name.
    I don't think NYS has diabilities parking stickers... and I think
    one is limited to one hangtag per person, here... I'd have to
    research deeper to find out if the "plates to all vehicles titled
    in name" applies here, too...
    Regulations vary by state -- no wonder tourists get confused! <g>
    That they do... I'm pretty sure though that all states have
    reciprocity agreements where the issuing state's disability
    "markers" are accepted by the other states... :)

    I would presume so. And sort of along that line Iowa has a new vanity
    plate option which might get a few raised eyebrows by out-of-state authorities: black and white and looks relatively generic, like the fake
    plates on new car commercials. https://whotv.com/2019/09/02/blackout-buzz-iowa-dot-offering-convienent- way-to-get-new-popular-license-plates/ Accroding to that news artciles
    there are two other states with similar plates. And yes, there has been
    a black-and-gold plate available for some time for the Iowa Hawkeye
    (football) supporters.


    Appears one still needs to plan ahead: if has the license plate one
    needs to plan ahead to have a temporary hangtag for when the car is in
    repair.
    I vaguely recall on the permit application that one could choose
    plates, hangtag or both... I got my tag a few years ago....
    If I need one I'd be re-checking the regulations as has been ten years since I fell-down-and-go-boom'd - a few things have probably changed.
    To my thinking a permanent plate on the car plus a portable hangtag
    makes sense.
    It does, for all the reasons we've already stated... ;) I had a
    temporary tag when I broke my ankle, too... got the permanent one
    for myself more recently... my doctor agreed that it would be a
    good idea for me to have it...

    Yes. And as we talked about before, can be all sorts of hidden reasons
    for needing to park closer and other accomodations. At Hy-Vee I tend to
    park further out, preferably next to the second cart corral: parking
    space is wider and I can open car door with the shopping cart next to the
    car and have room to maneuover. Also generally a small cart (vs. full/ regular-sized one) handy in the corral.


    ... Technically horrible stuff, but somehow very tasty.
    You must be talking about that fast food place serving stir fry in the
    other message! <g>
    Oh, I don't think the fastfood place's stir fry would even be
    technically horrible, even to the average joe... ;) But it might
    apply to the general perception of most offal foods.... :)
    Some might be tatsy until find out what they are!
    Actually, they are tasty, even when one does know what they
    are... :) We've done "full-disclosure" tastings of such at
    various Cooking Echo Picnics.... this year it was steak and
    kidney pie... actually lamb kidneys and shoulder roast cut up...
    When the kidney was just cooked, before adding it to the pie,
    each of us had a little piece to taste... and everyone, even the
    doubters, agreed that it really was quite nice... and enjoyed the
    final product as well... :)

    Yes, I think for me it's more being taught "eating organs is gross",
    though I do like liver. Kidneys, stomach, brain -- groooooss! Never
    had that I know of, so might be good. And intestines used to be and
    sometimes still used for sausage casings. You _know_ what went through
    those intestines!!


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    And along those lines: saw about a half-dozen butterflies snacking on
    one of the plants in the back yard yesterday. Figured they would have
    been migrating to some place warmer as supposed to have a freeze this
    weekend. And the half-dozen number is the usual number I've seen
    fluttering around.


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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Sat Oct 19 00:24:46 2019
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 09-Oct-2019 09:27 <=-

    At least here in NYS, I think that if one has the disabled plates, one
    can also get the hangtag for just such instances as that... I'll have
    to check with a friend of mine that does have the plates on her
    vehicle... all I have is the hangtag itself....
    I had the temporary hangtag.
    At least with the hangtag, one can take it from vehicle to vehicle...

    I'll be seeing that friend next week... I might remember to ask her... ;)

    True. To me would make sense to have a 'portable' hangtag, not just
    for when the regular vehicle needs repair but those times when a
    passenger.
    Before I had my permanent hangtag, I regularly transported a few
    people that just brought their hangtag with them, to be hung in
    whatever vehicle they were riding in... now I just use mine... and
    try to remember to take it with me if I'm riding in another vehicle
    than my own... ;) It's registered to the person, not the vehicle...
    Right on the hangtag being registered to person and not the vehicle.
    And could see where easy enough to forget to take the hangtag down
    from the mirror when finally leaving the vehicle: get distracted, etc. ...Carry a spare?! <g>

    Our hangtags state clearly on them that one is to take it down from the
    mirror when it isn't in use, so when one is driving... Mine generally
    resides in the glove compartment... So I really do have to think to
    remember to grab it out of my car if I'll be riding in someone else's
    (like Richard's, or the rental vehicles I've had this year)...

    ...OTOH there were times when I preferred not to park in a
    spot (when I was authorized). My car is a 'little wind-up' and parking
    amongst the vans and SUVs hard to see around them to back out. (Backup
    camera would have been handy.)
    Backup cameras don't show you what's coming from the left and right
    around those behemoths, though.... just what's behind you... the
    rentals I've used have had them... :)
    I knew the older cameras did not show side views, thought the new ones were starting to.

    It's kinda a wide-angle view, but still not really a side view...

    I'd still not rely on eventual side-view camera:
    use as an adjunct to what I observe. IOW "looks clear in the
    viewfinder" does not mean slam the car in reverse and go.

    Exactly... one still needs to look all around, just use the camera as an additional piece of information....

    I don't think NYS has diabilities parking stickers... and I think
    one is limited to one hangtag per person, here... I'd have to
    research deeper to find out if the "plates to all vehicles titled
    in name" applies here, too...
    Regulations vary by state -- no wonder tourists get confused! <g>
    That they do... I'm pretty sure though that all states have
    reciprocity agreements where the issuing state's disability
    "markers" are accepted by the other states... :)
    I would presume so. And sort of along that line Iowa has a new vanity plate option which might get a few raised eyebrows by out-of-state authorities: black and white and looks relatively generic, like the
    fake plates on new car commercials.

    I'd hope that law enforcement would have access to information that
    would let them know it's legit...

    https://whotv.com/2019/09/02/blackout-buzz-iowa-dot-offering-convienent
    - way-to-get-new-popular-license-plates/ Accroding to that news
    artciles there are two other states with similar plates.

    Looks like a few typos in that... ;)

    And yes, there has been a black-and-gold plate available for some
    time for the Iowa Hawkeye (football) supporters.

    There's a number of special NYS plates for various supporters as well...

    Appears one still needs to plan ahead: if has the license plate one
    needs to plan ahead to have a temporary hangtag for when the car is in
    repair.
    I vaguely recall on the permit application that one could choose
    plates, hangtag or both... I got my tag a few years ago....
    If I need one I'd be re-checking the regulations as has been ten years
    since I fell-down-and-go-boom'd - a few things have probably changed.
    To my thinking a permanent plate on the car plus a portable hangtag
    makes sense.
    It does, for all the reasons we've already stated... ;) I had a
    temporary tag when I broke my ankle, too... got the permanent one for
    myself more recently... my doctor agreed that it would be a good idea
    for me to have it...
    Yes. And as we talked about before, can be all sorts of hidden
    reasons for needing to park closer and other accomodations. At Hy-Vee
    I tend to park further out, preferably next to the second cart corral: parking space is wider and I can open car door with the shopping cart
    next to the car and have room to maneuover. Also generally a small
    cart (vs. full/ regular-sized one) handy in the corral.

    Nice to have a cart handy to use as a walker... ;) The handicap spaces
    do have extra room on either side of the space (or at least one side),
    so it does make loading easier, too...

    ... Technically horrible stuff, but somehow very tasty.
    You must be talking about that fast food place serving stir fry in the
    other message! <g>
    Oh, I don't think the fastfood place's stir fry would even be
    technically horrible, even to the average joe... ;) But it might
    apply to the general perception of most offal foods.... :)
    Some might be tasty until find out what they are!
    Actually, they are tasty, even when one does know what they are... :)
    We've done "full-disclosure" tastings of such at various Cooking Echo
    Picnics.... this year it was steak and kidney pie... actually lamb
    kidneys and beef shoulder roast cut up... When the kidney was just
    cooked, before adding it to the pie, each of us had a little piece to
    taste... and everyone, even the doubters, agreed that it really was
    quite nice... and enjoyed the final product as well... :)
    Yes, I think for me it's more being taught "eating organs is gross", though I do like liver. Kidneys, stomach, brain -- groooooss! Never
    had that I know of, so might be good.

    Only thing I've not tried of those is brain... never had the chance...
    but I'd certainly try it, given that chance.... :) And what I've had,
    IS good.... ;)

    And intestines used to be and sometimes still used for sausage
    casings. You _know_ what went through those intestines!!

    But they are cleaned out extremely well... :) No need to worry about
    that... ;)

    ... Butterflies are self-propelled flowers.
    And along those lines: saw about a half-dozen butterflies snacking on
    one of the plants in the back yard yesterday. Figured they would have been migrating to some place warmer as supposed to have a freeze this weekend. And the half-dozen number is the usual number I've seen fluttering around.

    Maybe they were just stoking up for the flight.... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Sat Oct 19 09:27:00 2019

    Hi Nancy!

    At least here in NYS, I think that if one has the disabled plates, one
    can also get the hangtag for just such instances as that... I'll have
    to check with a friend of mine that does have the plates on her
    vehicle... all I have is the hangtag itself....
    I had the temporary hangtag.
    At least with the hangtag, one can take it from vehicle to vehicle...
    I'll be seeing that friend next week... I might remember to ask
    her... ;)

    Curious Cat started clawing and so I did a quick check -- so far didn't
    find the Plate + Hangtag answer but did find in Iowa on can get a
    sticker for the regular license plate if they don't want a disability
    plate. Goes in the lower right of the rear plate (IIRC new plates are
    issued once every ten years). Lower left is the annual registration
    sticker. Front plate is just there.

    OK, apparently can have plate plus hangtag:

    Multiple permits

    - Persons with disabilities plates may be issued to all vehicles
    titled in the person's name with a disability.
    - Two removable windshield placards may be issued for each
    person with a disability.
    - Persons with disabilities parking stickers may be issued to all
    vehicles titled in the person's name with a disability.

    The second point seems to imply in Iowa can have both. If I ever need
    to obtain I'd double-check the legal requirements. The official request
    form may make the option real clear.



    True. To me would make sense to have a 'portable' hangtag, not just
    for when the regular vehicle needs repair but those times when a
    passenger.
    Before I had my permanent hangtag, I regularly transported a few
    people that just brought their hangtag with them, to be hung in
    whatever vehicle they were riding in... now I just use mine... and
    try to remember to take it with me if I'm riding in another vehicle
    than my own... ;) It's registered to the person, not the vehicle...
    Right on the hangtag being registered to person and not the vehicle.
    And could see where easy enough to forget to take the hangtag down
    from the mirror when finally leaving the vehicle: get distracted, etc. ...Carry a spare?! <g>
    Our hangtags state clearly on them that one is to take it down
    from the mirror when it isn't in use, so when one is driving...

    IIRC Iowa does also.

    Mine generally resides in the glove compartment... So I really do
    have to think to remember to grab it out of my car if I'll be
    riding in someone else's (like Richard's, or the rental vehicles
    I've had this year)...

    Now if you only carried a purse! I think I put mine on the passenger
    seat as generally I was driving alone, or if a passenger moved it to the
    center console's 'container'. (The container thing isn't too large so
    the tag had to be shoved in.)


    ...OTOH there were times when I preferred not to park in a
    spot (when I was authorized). My car is a 'little wind-up' and parking
    amongst the vans and SUVs hard to see around them to back out. (Backup
    camera would have been handy.)
    Backup cameras don't show you what's coming from the left and right
    around those behemoths, though.... just what's behind you... the
    rentals I've used have had them... :)
    I knew the older cameras did not show side views, thought the new ones were starting to.
    It's kinda a wide-angle view, but still not really a side view...

    And I'm glad you had brought up that detail: one of the e-ads I get had
    an add-on rear view camera. Decent price but minimal wide view and
    definitely no side view.


    I'd still not rely on eventual side-view camera:
    use as an adjunct to what I observe. IOW "looks clear in the
    viewfinder" does not mean slam the car in reverse and go.
    Exactly... one still needs to look all around, just use the
    camera as an additional piece of information....

    Right.


    I don't think NYS has diabilities parking stickers... and I think
    one is limited to one hangtag per person, here... I'd have to
    research deeper to find out if the "plates to all vehicles titled
    in name" applies here, too...
    Regulations vary by state -- no wonder tourists get confused! <g>
    That they do... I'm pretty sure though that all states have
    reciprocity agreements where the issuing state's disability
    "markers" are accepted by the other states... :)
    I would presume so. And sort of along that line Iowa has a new vanity plate option which might get a few raised eyebrows by out-of-state authorities: black and white and looks relatively generic, like the
    fake plates on new car commercials.
    I'd hope that law enforcement would have access to information
    that would let them know it's legit...

    My guess is yes, with the computers they have in their vehicles plus
    radio contact. Hopefully they don't have to spend as much time as you
    and I have on this little 'project' -- access to that database. Plus
    they can probably do it 'backwards': vehicle parked in a handicapped
    spot -- have plates/sticker/hangtag? If 'yes' then probably legit, if no
    issue ticket. If probably legit then run the plate: the plate
    information should have whether allowed to have a handicap ID.



    https://whotv.com/2019/09/02/blackout-buzz-iowa-dot-offering-convienent
    - way-to-get-new-popular-license-plates/ According to that news
    articles there are two other states with similar plates.
    Looks like a few typos in that... ;)

    Mine or theirs?! Noticed on the local news' crawl this morning
    "Davepnort".


    And yes, there has been a black-and-gold plate available for some
    time for the Iowa Hawkeye (football) supporters.
    There's a number of special NYS plates for various supporters as
    well...

    Common way for the states to obtain more money: various forms of vanity plates.


    Appears one still needs to plan ahead: if has the license plate one
    needs to plan ahead to have a temporary hangtag for when the car is in
    repair.
    I vaguely recall on the permit application that one could choose
    plates, hangtag or both... I got my tag a few years ago....
    If I need one I'd be re-checking the regulations as has been ten years
    since I fell-down-and-go-boom'd - a few things have probably changed.
    To my thinking a permanent plate on the car plus a portable hangtag
    makes sense.
    It does, for all the reasons we've already stated... ;) I had a
    temporary tag when I broke my ankle, too... got the permanent one for
    myself more recently... my doctor agreed that it would be a good idea
    for me to have it...
    Yes. And as we talked about before, can be all sorts of hidden
    reasons for needing to park closer and other accomodations. At Hy-Vee
    I tend to park further out, preferably next to the second cart corral: parking space is wider and I can open car door with the shopping cart
    next to the car and have room to maneuover. Also generally a small
    cart (vs. full/ regular-sized one) handy in the corral.
    Nice to have a cart handy to use as a walker... ;) The handicap
    spaces do have extra room on either side of the space (or at
    least one side), so it does make loading easier, too...

    Yes, the extra space was nice but LISB4 my little wind-up car couldn't
    see around the behemoth SUVs and vans. ...Need a back-up camera on a
    selfie stick to extend and look around!!



    ... Technically horrible stuff, but somehow very tasty.
    You must be talking about that fast food place serving stir fry in the
    other message! <g>
    Oh, I don't think the fastfood place's stir fry would even be
    technically horrible, even to the average joe... ;) But it might
    apply to the general perception of most offal foods.... :)
    Some might be tasty until find out what they are!
    Actually, they are tasty, even when one does know what they are... :)
    We've done "full-disclosure" tastings of such at various Cooking Echo
    Picnics.... this year it was steak and kidney pie... actually lamb
    kidneys and beef shoulder roast cut up... When the kidney was just
    cooked, before adding it to the pie, each of us had a little piece to
    taste... and everyone, even the doubters, agreed that it really was
    quite nice... and enjoyed the final product as well... :)
    Yes, I think for me it's more being taught "eating organs is gross", though I do like liver. Kidneys, stomach, brain -- groooooss! Never
    had that I know of, so might be good.
    Only thing I've not tried of those is brain... never had the
    chance... but I'd certainly try it, given that chance.... :) And
    what I've had, IS good.... ;)

    90% of it is probably just growing up and so trained certain words / identifiers are not eaten. If presented and didn't know what it was
    probably eat and maybe like it. (Conversely have had foods I normally
    like presented in a format I don't like and so yuck.)


    And intestines used to be and sometimes still used for sausage
    casings. You _know_ what went through those intestines!!
    But they are cleaned out extremely well... :) No need to worry
    about that... ;)

    <chuckle> True.


    ... Butterflies are self-propelled flowers.
    And along those lines: saw about a half-dozen butterflies snacking on
    one of the plants in the back yard yesterday. Figured they would have been migrating to some place warmer as supposed to have a freeze this weekend. And the half-dozen number is the usual number I've seen fluttering around.
    Maybe they were just stoking up for the flight.... :)

    They may have left: I haven't been outside that much but didn't see
    anyone except a couple of white moths.



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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Wed Oct 30 02:39:20 2019
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 19-Oct-2019 09:27 <=-

    At least here in NYS, I think that if one has the disabled plates, one
    can also get the hangtag for just such instances as that... I'll have
    to check with a friend of mine that does have the plates on her
    vehicle... all I have is the hangtag itself....
    I had the temporary hangtag.
    At least with the hangtag, one can take it from vehicle to vehicle...
    I'll be seeing that friend next week... I might remember to ask
    her... ;)
    Curious Cat started clawing and so I did a quick check -- so far
    didn't find the Plate + Hangtag answer

    So I asked my friend... and she didn't know... but now she's going to
    look into it, because she had a bit of a problem when her car was in the
    shop for repairs, and she didn't have the license plate to show her
    eligibility for the handicap spots.... All she has now is the plates...
    but she is going to see if she can get a hangtag as well... She'd
    thought that it was a short term thing (like the temp tags), but I told
    her that they are for something like 8 years, and are pretty much
    automatically renewed, only have to go in and pick up a new one...

    but did find in Iowa on can get a sticker for the regular license plate
    if they don't want a disability plate. Goes in the lower right of the rear plate (IIRC new plates are issued once every ten years). Lower
    left is the annual registration sticker. Front plate is just there.

    That's a nice setup too, then.... :)

    OK, apparently can have plate plus hangtag:
    Multiple permits
    - Persons with disabilities plates may be issued to all vehicles
    titled in the person's name with a disability.
    - Two removable windshield placards may be issued for each
    person with a disability.
    - Persons with disabilities parking stickers may be issued to all
    vehicles titled in the person's name with a disability.
    The second point seems to imply in Iowa can have both. If I ever need
    to obtain I'd double-check the legal requirements. The official
    request form may make the option real clear.

    Looks like... and the official request form is where I think I remember
    seeing the option to get both as well as either/or.... :)

    Mine generally resides in the glove compartment... So I really do
    have to think to remember to grab it out of my car if I'll be
    riding in someone else's (like Richard's, or the rental vehicles
    I've had this year)...
    Now if you only carried a purse!

    Once in a while, I'll have some sort of a totebag that I could tuck the
    tag into, for when going into someone else's vehicle....

    I think I put mine on the passenger seat as generally I was driving
    alone, or if a passenger moved it to the center console's 'container'. (The container thing isn't too large so the tag had to be shoved in.)

    I've seen things advertised to tuck it up behind the visor.... and swing
    it down when ready to use.... But usually the glove compartment is the
    best place for me... I'd rather not leave it out in the open if it
    isn't actually in use... sometimes one finds a spot that works just as
    well that isn't designated, but one doesn't want to have the car broken
    into just to steal the tag, either...

    Backup cameras don't show you what's coming from the left and right
    around those behemoths, though.... just what's behind you... the
    rentals I've used have had them... :)
    I knew the older cameras did not show side views, thought the new ones
    were starting to.
    It's kinda a wide-angle view, but still not really a side view...
    And I'm glad you had brought up that detail: one of the e-ads I get
    had an add-on rear view camera. Decent price but minimal wide view and definitely no side view.

    It could be useful, but just expect too much from it... :)

    I would presume so. And sort of along that line Iowa has a new vanity
    plate option which might get a few raised eyebrows by out-of-state
    authorities: black and white and looks relatively generic, like the
    fake plates on new car commercials.
    I'd hope that law enforcement would have access to information
    that would let them know it's legit...
    My guess is yes, with the computers they have in their vehicles plus
    radio contact. Hopefully they don't have to spend as much time as you
    and I have on this little 'project' -- access to that database. Plus
    they can probably do it 'backwards': vehicle parked in a handicapped
    spot -- have plates/sticker/hangtag? If 'yes' then probably legit, if
    no issue ticket. If probably legit then run the plate: the plate information should have whether allowed to have a handicap ID.

    Except, the ID's registered to a person not the plate, unless the plate
    itself is the handicap sort.... More likely just to accept the plate or
    sticker or tag at face value.... :)

    https://whotv.com/2019/09/02/blackout-buzz-iowa-dot-offering-convienent
    -way-to-get-new-popular-license-plates/ According to that news
    articles there are two other states with similar plates.
    Looks like a few typos in that... ;)
    Mine or theirs?! Noticed on the local news' crawl this morning "Davepnort".

    You fixed the "articles" typo.... but looks like there's a typo in the
    addy ('convienent' instead of 'convenient')...

    And yes, there has been a black-and-gold plate available for some
    time for the Iowa Hawkeye (football) supporters.
    There's a number of special NYS plates for various supporters as
    well...
    Common way for the states to obtain more money: various forms of
    vanity plates.

    Yup.... :)

    Yes. And as we talked about before, can be all sorts of hidden
    reasons for needing to park closer and other accomodations. At Hy-Vee
    I tend to park further out, preferably next to the second cart corral:
    parking space is wider and I can open car door with the shopping cart
    next to the car and have room to maneuover. Also generally a small
    cart (vs. full/ regular-sized one) handy in the corral.
    Nice to have a cart handy to use as a walker... ;) The handicap
    spaces do have extra room on either side of the space (or at
    least one side), so it does make loading easier, too...
    Yes, the extra space was nice but LISB4 my little wind-up car couldn't
    see around the behemoth SUVs and vans. ...Need a back-up camera on a selfie stick to extend and look around!!

    And even that probably would miss some of the traffic... trouble is,
    those behemoths could be parked anywhere.... although they do seem to
    want to park as close as possible.... <G>

    Yes, I think for me it's more being taught "eating organs is gross",
    though I do like liver. Kidneys, stomach, brain -- groooooss! Never
    had that I know of, so might be good.
    Only thing I've not tried of those is brain... never had the chance...
    but I'd certainly try it, given that chance.... :) And what I've had,
    IS good.... ;)
    90% of it is probably just growing up and so trained certain words / identifiers are not eaten. If presented and didn't know what it was probably eat and maybe like it. (Conversely have had foods I normally
    like presented in a format I don't like and so yuck.)

    True, I grew up with lots of organ meats as part of the usual routine...

    ... Butterflies are self-propelled flowers.
    And along those lines: saw about a half-dozen butterflies snacking on
    one of the plants in the back yard yesterday. Figured they would have
    been migrating to some place warmer as supposed to have a freeze this
    weekend. And the half-dozen number is the usual number I've seen
    fluttering around.
    Maybe they were just stoking up for the flight.... :)
    They may have left: I haven't been outside that much but didn't see
    anyone except a couple of white moths.

    It is getting to be that time of year.... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Wed Oct 30 09:50:00 2019

    Hi Nancy!

    At least here in NYS, I think that if one has the disabled plates, one
    can also get the hangtag for just such instances as that... I'll have
    to check with a friend of mine that does have the plates on her
    vehicle... all I have is the hangtag itself....
    I had the temporary hangtag.
    At least with the hangtag, one can take it from vehicle to vehicle...
    I'll be seeing that friend next week... I might remember to ask
    her... ;)
    Curious Cat started clawing and so I did a quick check -- so far
    didn't find the Plate + Hangtag answer
    So I asked my friend... and she didn't know... but now she's
    going to look into it, because she had a bit of a problem when
    her car was in the shop for repairs, and she didn't have the
    license plate to show her eligibility for the handicap spots....
    All she has now is the plates... but she is going to see if she
    can get a hangtag as well... She'd thought that it was a short
    term thing (like the temp tags), but I told her that they are for something like 8 years, and are pretty much automatically
    renewed, only have to go in and pick up a new one...

    The portable hangtag only comes to light when the car with the handicap
    plates isn't available! Even if had to be requested annual would be a
    good idea to have: besides the car in service just riding with someone
    -- pull out the tag to be able to park close (for medical reasons).



    but did find in Iowa on can get a sticker for the regular license plate
    if they don't want a disability plate. Goes in the lower right of the rear plate (IIRC new plates are issued once every ten years). Lower
    left is the annual registration sticker. Front plate is just there.
    That's a nice setup too, then.... :)

    Yes. I don't recall the sticker option when I was looking in to the
    permit years ago. Actually makes more sense in some cases: bending /
    kneeling for an extended time swapping out the plates can be a problem
    for some! Slap a sticker on, done!


    OK, apparently can have plate plus hangtag:
    Multiple permits
    - Persons with disabilities plates may be issued to all vehicles
    titled in the person's name with a disability.
    - Two removable windshield placards may be issued for each
    person with a disability.
    - Persons with disabilities parking stickers may be issued to all
    vehicles titled in the person's name with a disability.
    The second point seems to imply in Iowa can have both. If I ever need
    to obtain I'd double-check the legal requirements. The official
    request form may make the option real clear.
    Looks like... and the official request form is where I think I
    remember seeing the option to get both as well as either/or....
    :)

    Probably. Sometimes easier not to make things complicated by explaining
    it all in the summary.


    Mine generally resides in the glove compartment... So I really do
    have to think to remember to grab it out of my car if I'll be
    riding in someone else's (like Richard's, or the rental vehicles
    I've had this year)...
    Now if you only carried a purse!
    Once in a while, I'll have some sort of a totebag that I could
    tuck the tag into, for when going into someone else's vehicle....

    Makes sense: as the need arises.


    I think I put mine on the passenger seat as generally I was driving
    alone, or if a passenger moved it to the center console's 'container'. (The container thing isn't too large so the tag had to be shoved in.)
    I've seen things advertised to tuck it up behind the visor....
    and swing it down when ready to use....

    Still have to remember to swing down the visor, which isn't all that
    difficult - about the same as remembering to pull from the glove
    compartment. I'd find it more convenient between the two options.

    But usually the glove
    compartment is the best place for me... I'd rather not leave it
    out in the open if it isn't actually in use... sometimes one
    finds a spot that works just as well that isn't designated, but
    one doesn't want to have the car broken into just to steal the
    tag, either...

    Right. I don't recall hearing of a car being broken in to just for the
    tag but wouldn't surprise me.


    Backup cameras don't show you what's coming from the left and right
    around those behemoths, though.... just what's behind you... the
    rentals I've used have had them... :)
    I knew the older cameras did not show side views, thought the new ones
    were starting to.
    It's kinda a wide-angle view, but still not really a side view...
    And I'm glad you had brought up that detail: one of the e-ads I get
    had an add-on rear view camera. Decent price but minimal wide view and definitely no side view.
    It could be useful, but just expect too much from it... :)

    Right. At this point I'd wait for one with much better side view capabilities. The version I usually see is mounted above the rear
    license plate (via the plate's screws) which I'm reasonably certain on
    my car would be a problem for side views as the plate is recessed
    slightly.


    I would presume so. And sort of along that line Iowa has a new vanity
    plate option which might get a few raised eyebrows by out-of-state
    authorities: black and white and looks relatively generic, like the
    fake plates on new car commercials.
    I'd hope that law enforcement would have access to information
    that would let them know it's legit...
    My guess is yes, with the computers they have in their vehicles plus
    radio contact. Hopefully they don't have to spend as much time as you
    and I have on this little 'project' -- access to that database. Plus
    they can probably do it 'backwards': vehicle parked in a handicapped
    spot -- have plates/sticker/hangtag? If 'yes' then probably legit, if
    no issue ticket. If probably legit then run the plate: the plate information should have whether allowed to have a handicap ID.
    Except, the ID's registered to a person not the plate, unless the
    plate itself is the handicap sort.... More likely just to accept
    the plate or sticker or tag at face value.... :)

    Right: the usual reason is the to ascertain authorized vehicles are
    parked in a handicapped spot: plate/sticker/hangtag? Okey-dokey! Next!


    https://whotv.com/2019/09/02/blackout-buzz-iowa-dot-offering-convienent
    -way-to-get-new-popular-license-plates/ According to that news
    articles there are two other states with similar plates.
    Looks like a few typos in that... ;)
    Mine or theirs?! Noticed on the local news' crawl this morning "Davepnort".
    You fixed the "articles" typo.... but looks like there's a typo
    in the addy ('convienent' instead of 'convenient')...

    I noticed that too; they will have errors in the crawl a little too frequently. I think every so often on the teleprompter: every so often
    anchor reading and slight pause as trying to figure out what was
    supposed to be written. More of a word issue than waiting for the next
    line to appear on the machine.


    And yes, there has been a black-and-gold plate available for some
    time for the Iowa Hawkeye (football) supporters.
    There's a number of special NYS plates for various supporters as
    well...
    Common way for the states to obtain more money: various forms of
    vanity plates.
    Yup.... :)

    Nothing wrong with that, just sometimes wonder how all those plate
    variations get memorized by police, especially adjoining states.
    suppose easier now with the bar code scanning.


    Yes. And as we talked about before, can be all sorts of hidden
    reasons for needing to park closer and other accomodations. At Hy-Vee
    I tend to park further out, preferably next to the second cart corral:
    parking space is wider and I can open car door with the shopping cart
    next to the car and have room to maneuover. Also generally a small
    cart (vs. full/ regular-sized one) handy in the corral.
    Nice to have a cart handy to use as a walker... ;) The handicap
    spaces do have extra room on either side of the space (or at
    least one side), so it does make loading easier, too...
    Yes, the extra space was nice but LISB4 my little wind-up car couldn't
    see around the behemoth SUVs and vans. ...Need a back-up camera on a selfie stick to extend and look around!!
    And even that probably would miss some of the traffic... trouble
    is, those behemoths could be parked anywhere.... although they do
    seem to want to park as close as possible.... <G>

    Or decide where I parked 100' out alone in the semi-boonies was an
    excellent idea and so park on either side of me!


    Yes, I think for me it's more being taught "eating organs is gross",
    though I do like liver. Kidneys, stomach, brain -- groooooss! Never
    had that I know of, so might be good.
    Only thing I've not tried of those is brain... never had the chance...
    but I'd certainly try it, given that chance.... :) And what I've had,
    IS good.... ;)
    90% of it is probably just growing up and so trained certain words / identifiers are not eaten. If presented and didn't know what it was probably eat and maybe like it. (Conversely have had foods I normally
    like presented in a format I don't like and so yuck.)
    True, I grew up with lots of organ meats as part of the usual
    routine...

    So for the rest give it a fancy name and the gross stuff now sounds extra-yummy!


    ... Butterflies are self-propelled flowers.
    And along those lines: saw about a half-dozen butterflies snacking on
    one of the plants in the back yard yesterday. Figured they would have
    been migrating to some place warmer as supposed to have a freeze this
    weekend. And the half-dozen number is the usual number I've seen
    fluttering around.
    Maybe they were just stoking up for the flight.... :)
    They may have left: I haven't been outside that much but didn't see
    anyone except a couple of white moths.
    It is getting to be that time of year.... :)

    Hopefully everybody left who was supposed to leave. Had that quarter-
    inch of snow yesterday morning; day or two before doing some tidying up
    in the yard and noticed two moths who looked like butterflies, I don't
    care too much about the moths but hope the butterflies around here
    scooted off to where it's warm. (And now wondering where those moths
    winter.)


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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Thu Nov 7 01:34:10 2019
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 30-Oct-2019 09:50 <=-

    So I asked my friend... and she didn't know... but now she's going to
    look into it, because she had a bit of a problem when her car was in
    the shop for repairs, and she didn't have the license plate to show
    her eligibility for the handicap spots.... All she has now is the
    plates... but she is going to see if she can get a hangtag as well...
    She'd thought that it was a short term thing (like the temp tags),
    but but I told her that they are for something like 8 years, and are
    pretty much automatically renewed, only have to go in and pick up a
    new one...
    The portable hangtag only comes to light when the car with the
    handicap plates isn't available! Even if had to be requested annual
    would be a good idea to have: besides the car in service just riding
    with someone -- pull out the tag to be able to park close (for medical reasons).

    Exactly. Of course, if the alternative driver has their own tag, one
    wouldn't need it... but can't count on that being the case...

    but did find in Iowa on can get a sticker for the regular license plate
    if they don't want a disability plate. Goes in the lower right of the
    rear plate (IIRC new plates are issued once every ten years). Lower
    left is the annual registration sticker. Front plate is just there.
    That's a nice setup too, then.... :)
    Yes. I don't recall the sticker option when I was looking in to the
    permit years ago. Actually makes more sense in some cases: bending / kneeling for an extended time swapping out the plates can be a problem
    for some! Slap a sticker on, done!

    And easier to get someone else to do it for you, as well... :)

    Mine generally resides in the glove compartment... So I really do
    have to think to remember to grab it out of my car if I'll be
    riding in someone else's (like Richard's, or the rental vehicles
    I've had this year)...
    Now if you only carried a purse!
    Once in a while, I'll have some sort of a totebag that I could
    tuck the tag into, for when going into someone else's vehicle....
    Makes sense: as the need arises.

    Lately, I've been moving the tag from my car to Richard's, as we are
    going in his whenever we are driving together, to cut down on the
    wear-and-tear on mine until we find someone to fix the clutch...

    I think I put mine on the passenger seat as generally I was driving
    alone, or if a passenger moved it to the center console's 'container'.
    (The container thing isn't too large so the tag had to be shoved in.)
    I've seen things advertised to tuck it up behind the visor....
    and swing it down when ready to use....
    Still have to remember to swing down the visor, which isn't all that difficult - about the same as remembering to pull from the glove compartment. I'd find it more convenient between the two options.

    Maybe, if I got used to it....

    But usually the glove compartment is the best place for me... I'd
    rather not leave it out in the open if it isn't actually in use...
    sometimes one finds a spot that works just as well that isn't
    designated, but one doesn't want to have the car broken into just
    to steal the tag, either...
    Right. I don't recall hearing of a car being broken in to just for
    the tag but wouldn't surprise me.

    Probably a little far-fetched, but I'd still rather not take the
    chance... ;)

    And I'm glad you had brought up that detail: one of the e-ads I get
    had an add-on rear view camera. Decent price but minimal wide view and
    definitely no side view.
    It could be useful, but just expect too much from it... :)
    Right. At this point I'd wait for one with much better side view capabilities. The version I usually see is mounted above the rear
    license plate (via the plate's screws) which I'm reasonably certain on
    my car would be a problem for side views as the plate is recessed slightly.

    The newer vehicles built-in ones might have fewer problems that way...
    but I'm not that gung-ho just to get one... ;)

    There's a number of special NYS plates for various supporters as
    well...
    Common way for the states to obtain more money: various forms of
    vanity plates.
    Yup.... :)
    Nothing wrong with that, just sometimes wonder how all those plate variations get memorized by police, especially adjoining states.
    suppose easier now with the bar code scanning.

    The plates are supposed to have the state name visible... any license
    covers that cover the state are actually illegal....

    Yes, the extra space was nice but LISB4 my little wind-up car couldn't
    see around the behemoth SUVs and vans. ...Need a back-up camera on a
    selfie stick to extend and look around!!
    And even that probably would miss some of the traffic... trouble is,
    those behemoths could be parked anywhere.... although they do seem to
    want to park as close as possible.... <G>
    Or decide where I parked 100' out alone in the semi-boonies was an excellent idea and so park on either side of me!

    Rather defeating your aim in parking there.... ;)

    ... Butterflies are self-propelled flowers.
    And along those lines: saw about a half-dozen butterflies snacking on
    one of the plants in the back yard yesterday. Figured they would have
    been migrating to some place warmer as supposed to have a freeze this
    weekend. And the half-dozen number is the usual number I've seen
    fluttering around.
    Maybe they were just stoking up for the flight.... :)
    They may have left: I haven't been outside that much but didn't see
    anyone except a couple of white moths.
    It is getting to be that time of year.... :)
    Hopefully everybody left who was supposed to leave. Had that quarter- inch of snow yesterday morning; day or two before doing some tidying
    up in the yard and noticed two moths who looked like butterflies, I
    don't care too much about the moths but hope the butterflies around
    here scooted off to where it's warm. (And now wondering where those
    moths winter.)

    As long as it isn't inside your house.... <G>

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Thu Nov 7 13:55:00 2019

    Hi Nancy!

    So I asked my friend... and she didn't know... but now she's going to
    look into it, because she had a bit of a problem when her car was in
    the shop for repairs, and she didn't have the license plate to show
    her eligibility for the handicap spots.... All she has now is the
    plates... but she is going to see if she can get a hangtag as well...
    She'd thought that it was a short term thing (like the temp tags),
    but but I told her that they are for something like 8 years, and are
    pretty much automatically renewed, only have to go in and pick up a
    new one...
    The portable hangtag only comes to light when the car with the
    handicap plates isn't available! Even if had to be requested annual
    would be a good idea to have: besides the car in service just riding
    with someone -- pull out the tag to be able to park close (for medical reasons).
    Exactly. Of course, if the alternative driver has their own tag,
    one wouldn't need it... but can't count on that being the case...

    No, better to be over-prepared.


    but did find in Iowa on can get a sticker for the regular license plate
    if they don't want a disability plate. Goes in the lower right of the
    rear plate (IIRC new plates are issued once every ten years). Lower
    left is the annual registration sticker. Front plate is just there.
    That's a nice setup too, then.... :)
    Yes. I don't recall the sticker option when I was looking in to the
    permit years ago. Actually makes more sense in some cases: bending / kneeling for an extended time swapping out the plates can be a problem
    for some! Slap a sticker on, done!
    And easier to get someone else to do it for you, as well... :)

    True. And I'll admit to being a little stuck in the rut with "updating
    the plates is my job" so didn't really occur to me. Plus in my case was
    a temporary tag so any sort of permanance did not make sense.


    Mine generally resides in the glove compartment... So I really do
    have to think to remember to grab it out of my car if I'll be
    riding in someone else's (like Richard's, or the rental vehicles
    I've had this year)...
    Now if you only carried a purse!
    Once in a while, I'll have some sort of a totebag that I could
    tuck the tag into, for when going into someone else's vehicle....
    Makes sense: as the need arises.
    Lately, I've been moving the tag from my car to Richard's, as we
    are going in his whenever we are driving together, to cut down on
    the wear-and-tear on mine until we find someone to fix the
    clutch...

    Smart move! Any luck on finding a mechanic?


    I think I put mine on the passenger seat as generally I was driving
    alone, or if a passenger moved it to the center console's 'container'.
    (The container thing isn't too large so the tag had to be shoved in.)
    I've seen things advertised to tuck it up behind the visor....
    and swing it down when ready to use....
    Still have to remember to swing down the visor, which isn't all that difficult - about the same as remembering to pull from the glove compartment. I'd find it more convenient between the two options.
    Maybe, if I got used to it....

    Me too. :)


    But usually the glove compartment is the best place for me... I'd
    rather not leave it out in the open if it isn't actually in use...
    sometimes one finds a spot that works just as well that isn't
    designated, but one doesn't want to have the car broken into just
    to steal the tag, either...
    Right. I don't recall hearing of a car being broken in to just for
    the tag but wouldn't surprise me.
    Probably a little far-fetched, but I'd still rather not take the
    chance... ;)

    Out of sight eliminates that tempation. Reduces the theft option, but
    if 'something good' not seen might get a bypass.


    And I'm glad you had brought up that detail: one of the e-ads I get
    had an add-on rear view camera. Decent price but minimal wide view and
    definitely no side view.
    It could be useful, but just expect too much from it... :)
    Right. At this point I'd wait for one with much better side view capabilities. The version I usually see is mounted above the rear
    license plate (via the plate's screws) which I'm reasonably certain on
    my car would be a problem for side views as the plate is recessed slightly.
    The newer vehicles built-in ones might have fewer problems that
    way... but I'm not that gung-ho just to get one... ;)

    Nor I.


    There's a number of special NYS plates for various supporters as
    well...
    Common way for the states to obtain more money: various forms of
    vanity plates.
    Yup.... :)
    Nothing wrong with that, just sometimes wonder how all those plate variations get memorized by police, especially adjoining states.
    suppose easier now with the bar code scanning.
    The plates are supposed to have the state name visible... any
    license covers that cover the state are actually illegal....

    I'm fairly certain the same here, for Iowa and Illinois. Have seen some
    plates which I would guess would be out of compliance but "not my job".
    Here (Iowa) the same plate is kept for I think ten years; yearly
    registration stickers are placed on the rear plate in the lower left
    corner. (To me) clearly stated on the form the stickers come on;
    naturally every so often see the 'stacked' stickers up along the left
    side.


    Yes, the extra space was nice but LISB4 my little wind-up car couldn't
    see around the behemoth SUVs and vans. ...Need a back-up camera on a
    selfie stick to extend and look around!!
    And even that probably would miss some of the traffic... trouble is,
    those behemoths could be parked anywhere.... although they do seem to
    want to park as close as possible.... <G>
    Or decide where I parked 100' out alone in the semi-boonies was an excellent idea and so park on either side of me!
    Rather defeating your aim in parking there.... ;)

    Sort of! Wouldn't be quite so bad if parked with a space between (every
    other space) but not clustered!


    ... Butterflies are self-propelled flowers.
    And along those lines: saw about a half-dozen butterflies snacking on
    one of the plants in the back yard yesterday. Figured they would have
    been migrating to some place warmer as supposed to have a freeze this
    weekend. And the half-dozen number is the usual number I've seen
    fluttering around.
    Maybe they were just stoking up for the flight.... :)
    They may have left: I haven't been outside that much but didn't see
    anyone except a couple of white moths.
    It is getting to be that time of year.... :)
    Hopefully everybody left who was supposed to leave. Had that quarter- inch of snow yesterday morning; day or two before doing some tidying
    up in the yard and noticed two moths who looked like butterflies, I
    don't care too much about the moths but hope the butterflies around
    here scooted off to where it's warm. (And now wondering where those
    moths winter.)
    As long as it isn't inside your house.... <G>

    Gee I don't remember this sweater being a mesh! Have not looked for so
    not seen but wouldn't surprise me to have some bugs wintering behind the shutters or up against the vents ==> shutters are white so don't collect
    the sun's heat all that well but still a bit of warmth, plus protection.



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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Tue Nov 12 20:03:22 2019
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 07-Nov-2019 13:55 <=-

    plates... but she is going to see if she can get a hangtag as well...
    She'd thought that it was a short term thing (like the temp tags),
    but but I told her that they are for something like 8 years, and are
    pretty much automatically renewed, only have to go in and pick up a
    new one...
    The portable hangtag only comes to light when the car with the
    handicap plates isn't available! Even if had to be requested annual
    would be a good idea to have: besides the car in service just riding
    with someone -- pull out the tag to be able to park close (for medical
    reasons).
    Exactly. Of course, if the alternative driver has their own tag,
    one wouldn't need it... but can't count on that being the case...
    No, better to be over-prepared.

    Yup. :)

    but did find in Iowa on can get a sticker for the regular license plate
    if they don't want a disability plate. Goes in the lower right of the
    rear plate (IIRC new plates are issued once every ten years). Lower
    left is the annual registration sticker. Front plate is just there.
    That's a nice setup too, then.... :)
    Yes. I don't recall the sticker option when I was looking in to the
    permit years ago. Actually makes more sense in some cases: bending /
    kneeling for an extended time swapping out the plates can be a problem
    for some! Slap a sticker on, done!
    And easier to get someone else to do it for you, as well... :)
    True. And I'll admit to being a little stuck in the rut with
    "updating the plates is my job" so didn't really occur to me. Plus in
    my case was a temporary tag so any sort of permanance did not make
    sense.

    Yup, you had a different situation... :)

    Mine generally resides in the glove compartment... So I really do
    have to think to remember to grab it out of my car if I'll be
    riding in someone else's (like Richard's, or the rental vehicles
    I've had this year)...
    Now if you only carried a purse!
    Once in a while, I'll have some sort of a totebag that I could
    tuck the tag into, for when going into someone else's vehicle....
    Makes sense: as the need arises.
    Lately, I've been moving the tag from my car to Richard's, as we
    are going in his whenever we are driving together, to cut down on
    the wear-and-tear on mine until we find someone to fix the clutch...
    Smart move! Any luck on finding a mechanic?

    Not definitely yet... Did hear of a place that specializes in Imports, including Volvos, but that it tends to be expensive (no real surprise
    there)... I'd hope that they'd at least do better work than the dealer
    has been doing....

    But usually the glove compartment is the best place for me... I'd
    rather not leave it out in the open if it isn't actually in use...
    sometimes one finds a spot that works just as well that isn't
    designated, but one doesn't want to have the car broken into just
    to steal the tag, either...
    Right. I don't recall hearing of a car being broken in to just for
    the tag but wouldn't surprise me.
    Probably a little far-fetched, but I'd still rather not take the
    chance... ;)
    Out of sight eliminates that tempation. Reduces the theft option, but
    if 'something good' not seen might get a bypass.

    That's the hope...

    Nothing wrong with that, just sometimes wonder how all those plate
    variations get memorized by police, especially adjoining states.
    suppose easier now with the bar code scanning.
    The plates are supposed to have the state name visible... any
    license covers that cover the state are actually illegal....
    I'm fairly certain the same here, for Iowa and Illinois. Have seen
    some plates which I would guess would be out of compliance but "not my job". Here (Iowa) the same plate is kept for I think ten years; yearly registration stickers are placed on the rear plate in the lower left corner. (To me) clearly stated on the form the stickers come on; naturally every so often see the 'stacked' stickers up along the left side.

    As long as the sticker is roughly in the right place....? We don't have
    a sticker for the plate, we have a sticker (good for 2 years) that goes
    on the windshield next to the inspection sticker... both get removed
    before the new one is placed...

    Yes, the extra space was nice but LISB4 my little wind-up car couldn't
    see around the behemoth SUVs and vans. ...Need a back-up camera on a
    selfie stick to extend and look around!!
    And even that probably would miss some of the traffic... trouble is,
    those behemoths could be parked anywhere.... although they do seem to
    want to park as close as possible.... <G>
    Or decide where I parked 100' out alone in the semi-boonies was an
    excellent idea and so park on either side of me!
    Rather defeating your aim in parking there.... ;)
    Sort of! Wouldn't be quite so bad if parked with a space between
    (every other space) but not clustered!

    But what makes you think that they'd plan to be considerate of you...?

    It is getting to be that time of year.... :)
    Hopefully everybody left who was supposed to leave. Had that quarter-
    inch of snow yesterday morning; day or two before doing some tidying
    up in the yard and noticed two moths who looked like butterflies, I
    don't care too much about the moths but hope the butterflies around
    here scooted off to where it's warm. (And now wondering where those
    moths winter.)
    As long as it isn't inside your house.... <G>
    Gee I don't remember this sweater being a mesh! Have not looked for
    so not seen but wouldn't surprise me to have some bugs wintering behind the shutters or up against the vents ==> shutters are white so don't collect the sun's heat all that well but still a bit of warmth, plus protection.

    Outside's not so bad... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Wed Nov 13 11:08:00 2019

    Hi Nancy!

    but did find in Iowa on can get a sticker for the regular license plate
    if they don't want a disability plate. Goes in the lower right of the
    rear plate (IIRC new plates are issued once every ten years). Lower
    left is the annual registration sticker. Front plate is just there.
    That's a nice setup too, then.... :)
    Yes. I don't recall the sticker option when I was looking in to the
    permit years ago. Actually makes more sense in some cases: bending /
    kneeling for an extended time swapping out the plates can be a problem
    for some! Slap a sticker on, done!
    And easier to get someone else to do it for you, as well... :)
    True. And I'll admit to being a little stuck in the rut with
    "updating the plates is my job" so didn't really occur to me. Plus in
    my case was a temporary tag so any sort of permanance did not make
    sense.
    Yup, you had a different situation... :)

    Right - six month temporary while I healed. Will admit to being a bit
    biased as for me it was a convenience verus a requirement. Not a health
    issue where shuffling 100 feet is a problem.


    Mine generally resides in the glove compartment... So I really do
    have to think to remember to grab it out of my car if I'll be
    riding in someone else's (like Richard's, or the rental vehicles
    I've had this year)...
    Now if you only carried a purse!
    Once in a while, I'll have some sort of a totebag that I could
    tuck the tag into, for when going into someone else's vehicle....
    Makes sense: as the need arises.
    Lately, I've been moving the tag from my car to Richard's, as we
    are going in his whenever we are driving together, to cut down on
    the wear-and-tear on mine until we find someone to fix the clutch...
    Smart move! Any luck on finding a mechanic?
    Not definitely yet... Did hear of a place that specializes in
    Imports, including Volvos, but that it tends to be expensive (no
    real surprise there)... I'd hope that they'd at least do better
    work than the dealer has been doing....

    Specialists will tend to be expense "just because". Could even see
    where the dealer would send a customer to the specializing mechanic for
    certain repairs: the dealer not being specialized enough.



    Nothing wrong with that, just sometimes wonder how all those plate
    variations get memorized by police, especially adjoining states.
    suppose easier now with the bar code scanning.
    The plates are supposed to have the state name visible... any
    license covers that cover the state are actually illegal....
    I'm fairly certain the same here, for Iowa and Illinois. Have seen
    some plates which I would guess would be out of compliance but "not my job". Here (Iowa) the same plate is kept for I think ten years; yearly registration stickers are placed on the rear plate in the lower left corner. (To me) clearly stated on the form the stickers come on; naturally every so often see the 'stacked' stickers up along the left side.
    As long as the sticker is roughly in the right place....? We
    don't have a sticker for the plate, we have a sticker (good for 2
    years) that goes on the windshield next to the inspection
    sticker... both get removed before the new one is placed...

    Iowa for whatever reason eliminated vehicle inspection decades ago -
    before I moved out here in 1975. New Hampshire I'm pretty sure was (and
    still is) twice a year -- maybe just once a year. Remember thinking no inspection not making sense: not for the "how does one know the car is
    safe" but more for courtesy items like brake lights and even headlights.
    (I've driven with a burnt-out headlamp -- can see but 'seems a little
    dark'.)

    As for the registration stickers on the plate, they're supposed to be
    applied over each other. I take a paper napkin, towel, etc., to wipe
    the old one clean before applying the new -- the "stick'em" is really
    strong but always a hare afraid if don't make some attempt at cleaning
    the stack of stickers will fall off, especially after a few years'
    worth. Never heard of any such incident.


    Yes, the extra space was nice but LISB4 my little wind-up car couldn't
    see around the behemoth SUVs and vans. ...Need a back-up camera on a
    selfie stick to extend and look around!!
    And even that probably would miss some of the traffic... trouble is,
    those behemoths could be parked anywhere.... although they do seem to
    want to park as close as possible.... <G>
    Or decide where I parked 100' out alone in the semi-boonies was an
    excellent idea and so park on either side of me!
    Rather defeating your aim in parking there.... ;)
    Sort of! Wouldn't be quite so bad if parked with a space between
    (every other space) but not clustered!
    But what makes you think that they'd plan to be considerate of
    you...?

    Hope?


    It is getting to be that time of year.... :)
    Hopefully everybody left who was supposed to leave. Had that quarter-
    inch of snow yesterday morning; day or two before doing some tidying
    up in the yard and noticed two moths who looked like butterflies, I
    don't care too much about the moths but hope the butterflies around
    here scooted off to where it's warm. (And now wondering where those
    moths winter.)
    As long as it isn't inside your house.... <G>
    Gee I don't remember this sweater being a mesh! Have not looked for
    so not seen but wouldn't surprise me to have some bugs wintering behind the shutters or up against the vents ==> shutters are white so don't collect the sun's heat all that well but still a bit of warmth, plus protection.
    Outside's not so bad... :)

    No, not so bad. The other day did notice some not-so-cute bug stuck to
    the outside of the screen of one of the dining room windows. Possibly
    got caught by the cold weather and so 'froze' -- more semi-hibernation
    state.



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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Tue Nov 26 17:50:42 2019
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 13-Nov-2019 11:08 <=-

    And easier to get someone else to do it for you, as well... :)
    True. And I'll admit to being a little stuck in the rut with
    "updating the plates is my job" so didn't really occur to me. Plus
    in my case was a temporary tag so any sort of permanance did not
    make sense.
    Yup, you had a different situation... :)
    Right - six month temporary while I healed. Will admit to being a bit biased as for me it was a convenience versus a requirement. Not a
    health issue where shuffling 100 feet is a problem.

    I had one of those before... now mine is permanent... I'll admit it's
    somewhat of a convenience, but the extra walk can be a problem for me...
    I do tend to use the shopping cart as somewhat of a walker, too... :)

    Lately, I've been moving the tag from my car to Richard's, as we
    are going in his whenever we are driving together, to cut down on
    the wear-and-tear on mine until we find someone to fix the clutch...
    Smart move! Any luck on finding a mechanic?
    Not definitely yet... Did hear of a place that specializes in Imports,
    including Volvos, but that it tends to be expensive (no real surprise
    there)... I'd hope that they'd at least do better work than the
    dealer has been doing....
    Specialists will tend to be expense "just because". Could even see
    where the dealer would send a customer to the specializing mechanic
    for certain repairs: the dealer not being specialized enough.

    That is the case with one of the mechanics we use.... even the dealers
    send any air conditioner problems to him....

    I'm fairly certain the same here, for Iowa and Illinois. Have seen
    some plates which I would guess would be out of compliance but "not my
    job". Here (Iowa) the same plate is kept for I think ten years; yearly
    registration stickers are placed on the rear plate in the lower left
    corner. (To me) clearly stated on the form the stickers come on;
    naturally every so often see the 'stacked' stickers up along the left
    side.
    As long as the sticker is roughly in the right place....? We don't
    have a sticker for the plate, we have a sticker (good for 2 years)
    that goes on the windshield next to the inspection sticker... both
    get removed before the new one is placed...
    Iowa for whatever reason eliminated vehicle inspection decades ago - before I moved out here in 1975. New Hampshire I'm pretty sure was
    (and still is) twice a year -- maybe just once a year. Remember
    thinking no inspection not making sense: not for the "how does one know the car is safe" but more for courtesy items like brake lights and even headlights. (I've driven with a burnt-out headlamp -- can see but
    'seems a little dark'.)

    Here the inspection is yearly, partly for safety (brakes, lights,
    wipers, horn, windshield cracks, CV joints and similar) and partly for emissions...

    As for the registration stickers on the plate, they're supposed to be applied over each other. I take a paper napkin, towel, etc., to wipe
    the old one clean before applying the new -- the "stick'em" is really strong but always a hare afraid if don't make some attempt at cleaning
    the stack of stickers will fall off, especially after a few years'
    worth. Never heard of any such incident.

    But one can easily imagine it... and the disconcerted driver when
    stopped by police... I'd think that running it through the computer
    would show that it actually was up-to-date, though....

    up in the yard and noticed two moths who looked like butterflies, I
    don't care too much about the moths but hope the butterflies around
    here scooted off to where it's warm. (And now wondering where those
    moths winter.)
    As long as it isn't inside your house.... <G>
    Gee I don't remember this sweater being a mesh! Have not looked for
    so not seen but wouldn't surprise me to have some bugs wintering behind
    the shutters or up against the vents ==> shutters are white so don't
    collect the sun's heat all that well but still a bit of warmth, plus
    protection.
    Outside's not so bad... :)
    No, not so bad. The other day did notice some not-so-cute bug stuck
    to the outside of the screen of one of the dining room windows.
    Possibly got caught by the cold weather and so 'froze' -- more semi-hibernation state.

    Did you get the warming spell, too...? and did that bug warm up and fly somewhere else....? :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Wed Nov 27 09:41:00 2019

    Hi Nancy!

    And easier to get someone else to do it for you, as well... :)
    True. And I'll admit to being a little stuck in the rut with
    "updating the plates is my job" so didn't really occur to me. Plus
    in my case was a temporary tag so any sort of permanance did not
    make sense.
    Yup, you had a different situation... :)
    Right - six month temporary while I healed. Will admit to being a bit biased as for me it was a convenience versus a requirement. Not a
    health issue where shuffling 100 feet is a problem.
    I had one of those before... now mine is permanent... I'll admit
    it's somewhat of a convenience, but the extra walk can be a
    problem for me... I do tend to use the shopping cart as somewhat
    of a walker, too... :)

    I had a small reusable grocery bag (the rectangular woven kind) attached
    to the front of my walker via a shower curtain clip for transporting smaller/lighter items. When graduated to a cane used a plastic bag the newspapers come in to carry a bottled water around: wrap the handle
    portion around my hand plus grasp the cane. (Other hand was holding on
    to the bannister,)


    Lately, I've been moving the tag from my car to Richard's, as we
    are going in his whenever we are driving together, to cut down on
    the wear-and-tear on mine until we find someone to fix the clutch...
    Smart move! Any luck on finding a mechanic?
    Not definitely yet... Did hear of a place that specializes in Imports,
    including Volvos, but that it tends to be expensive (no real surprise
    there)... I'd hope that they'd at least do better work than the
    dealer has been doing....
    Specialists will tend to be expense "just because". Could even see
    where the dealer would send a customer to the specializing mechanic
    for certain repairs: the dealer not being specialized enough.
    That is the case with one of the mechanics we use.... even the
    dealers send any air conditioner problems to him....

    That mechanic/shop must be real good with air conditioners! Or else
    more cost-efficient to have one shop equipped with the Freon/etc.
    capture devices. (If a small dealership like "Jeff's Car Corner" would
    make sense to send out certain jobs, where as "Green Buick GMC" has a
    service building almost bigger than all of Jeff's Car Corner.)



    I'm fairly certain the same here, for Iowa and Illinois. Have seen
    some plates which I would guess would be out of compliance but "not my
    job". Here (Iowa) the same plate is kept for I think ten years; yearly
    registration stickers are placed on the rear plate in the lower left
    corner. (To me) clearly stated on the form the stickers come on;
    naturally every so often see the 'stacked' stickers up along the left
    side.
    As long as the sticker is roughly in the right place....? We don't
    have a sticker for the plate, we have a sticker (good for 2 years)
    that goes on the windshield next to the inspection sticker... both
    get removed before the new one is placed...
    Iowa for whatever reason eliminated vehicle inspection decades ago - before I moved out here in 1975. New Hampshire I'm pretty sure was
    (and still is) twice a year -- maybe just once a year. Remember
    thinking no inspection not making sense: not for the "how does one know the car is safe" but more for courtesy items like brake lights and even headlights. (I've driven with a burnt-out headlamp -- can see but
    'seems a little dark'.)
    Here the inspection is yearly, partly for safety (brakes, lights,
    wipers, horn, windshield cracks, CV joints and similar) and
    partly for emissions...

    Which to me makes sense. Can check headlights and brakelights by
    oneself (reflection) or easier to have someone else look. Wipers, horn
    and cracked glass also easy (though ignorable). Mechanicals and
    emmissions -- is that why people don't crowd up against my rear end any
    more?!


    As for the registration stickers on the plate, they're supposed to be applied over each other. I take a paper napkin, towel, etc., to wipe
    the old one clean before applying the new -- the "stick'em" is really strong but always a hare afraid if don't make some attempt at cleaning
    the stack of stickers will fall off, especially after a few years'
    worth. Never heard of any such incident.
    But one can easily imagine it... and the disconcerted driver when
    stopped by police... I'd think that running it through the
    computer would show that it actually was up-to-date, though....

    AFAIK one is supposed to have the registration sheet - the one the
    sticker as attached to -- in the car. As you said would presume easy
    enough to check if the registration was current.

    LIS, I've never had a problem with and never heard of a sticker falling
    off; could see someone taking a knife or screwdriver and peeling off
    just to be <nasty> but seems like there would be sufficient left to make
    it obvious was there at one time.


    up in the yard and noticed two moths who looked like butterflies, I
    don't care too much about the moths but hope the butterflies around
    here scooted off to where it's warm. (And now wondering where those
    moths winter.)
    As long as it isn't inside your house.... <G>
    Gee I don't remember this sweater being a mesh! Have not looked for
    so not seen but wouldn't surprise me to have some bugs wintering behind
    the shutters or up against the vents ==> shutters are white so don't
    collect the sun's heat all that well but still a bit of warmth, plus
    protection.
    Outside's not so bad... :)
    No, not so bad. The other day did notice some not-so-cute bug stuck
    to the outside of the screen of one of the dining room windows.
    Possibly got caught by the cold weather and so 'froze' -- more semi-hibernation state.
    Did you get the warming spell, too...? and did that bug warm up
    and fly somewhere else....? :)

    The critter is gone, but don't know if flew off or fell off. Did warm
    up some, so probably flew off. LIS elsewhere, rather breezy out there
    this morning. Cooled off a few degrees since I started this REP earlier
    and the ansiweather reports indicate the wind has died down some -- just
    hasn't registered those howling wind gusts! And no more DSL issues --
    maybe they checked yesterday to see what they screwed up the other night
    and fixed and rebooted this morning!


    Barry_Martin_3@
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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Tue Dec 3 20:45:04 2019
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 27-Nov-2019 09:41 <=-

    Yup, you had a different situation... :)
    Right - six month temporary while I healed. Will admit to being a bit
    biased as for me it was a convenience versus a requirement. Not a
    health issue where shuffling 100 feet is a problem.
    I had one of those before... now mine is permanent... I'll admit it's
    somewhat of a convenience, but the extra walk can be a problem for me..
    I do tend to use the shopping cart as somewhat of a walker, too... :)
    I had a small reusable grocery bag (the rectangular woven kind)
    attached to the front of my walker via a shower curtain clip for transporting smaller/lighter items. When graduated to a cane used a plastic bag the newspapers come in to carry a bottled water around:
    wrap the handle portion around my hand plus grasp the cane. (Other
    hand was holding on to the bannister,)

    I never really got into that sort of thing... while I was using a real
    walker, I never tried to carry anything else... but then I had to keep
    all weight off my right ankle/leg for 10 weeks while the tendons
    reknit, so was hopping on one foot with the support of the walker....
    once that was done and the pin taken out, I was allowed to walk again,
    and things were more back to normal by then... I was using the ride-em
    carts for a while in the store, though...

    Specialists will tend to be expense "just because". Could even see
    where the dealer would send a customer to the specializing mechanic
    for certain repairs: the dealer not being specialized enough.
    That is the case with one of the mechanics we use.... even the
    dealers send any air conditioner problems to him....
    That mechanic/shop must be real good with air conditioners! Or else
    more cost-efficient to have one shop equipped with the Freon/etc.
    capture devices. (If a small dealership like "Jeff's Car Corner"
    would make sense to send out certain jobs, where as "Green Buick GMC"
    has a service building almost bigger than all of Jeff's Car Corner.)

    It's the big dealers that send their cars there, too... He is good with
    air conditioners... :)

    Iowa for whatever reason eliminated vehicle inspection decades ago -
    before I moved out here in 1975. New Hampshire I'm pretty sure was
    (and still is) twice a year -- maybe just once a year. Remember
    thinking no inspection not making sense: not for the "how does one know
    the car is safe" but more for courtesy items like brake lights and even
    headlights. (I've driven with a burnt-out headlamp -- can see but
    'seems a little dark'.)
    Here the inspection is yearly, partly for safety (brakes, lights,
    wipers, horn, windshield cracks, CV joints and similar) and partly
    for emissions...
    Which to me makes sense. Can check headlights and brakelights by
    oneself (reflection) or easier to have someone else look. Wipers,
    horn and cracked glass also easy (though ignorable). Mechanicals and emmissions -- is that why people don't crowd up against my rear end
    any more?!

    The car computer talks to the state computer and tattles on the
    emissions... the rest of it the mechanic checks, either while pulling
    the car into the bay, or while the car is up on the lift...

    As for the registration stickers on the plate, they're supposed to be
    applied over each other. I take a paper napkin, towel, etc., to wipe
    the old one clean before applying the new -- the "stick'em" is really
    strong but always a hare afraid if don't make some attempt at cleaning
    the stack of stickers will fall off, especially after a few years'
    worth. Never heard of any such incident.
    But one can easily imagine it... and the disconcerted driver when
    stopped by police... I'd think that running it through the> computer
    would show that it actually was up-to-date, though....
    AFAIK one is supposed to have the registration sheet - the one the
    sticker as attached to -- in the car. As you said would presume easy enough to check if the registration was current.

    That too... ours is just a card we punch out and keep in the wallet or
    car....

    LIS, I've never had a problem with and never heard of a sticker
    falling off; could see someone taking a knife or screwdriver and
    peeling off just to be <nasty> but seems like there would be sufficient left to make it obvious was there at one time.

    Sometimes there's the problem of the whole plate going missing from
    front or back of the car (our state requires both)... But there, too,
    the police could run the registration number through the computer and
    see if it's up-to-date... they might still give a ticket, to give
    incentive to get to DMV and get the replacement quickly... :)

    No, not so bad. The other day did notice some not-so-cute bug stuck
    to the outside of the screen of one of the dining room windows.
    Possibly got caught by the cold weather and so 'froze' -- more
    semi-hibernation state.
    Did you get the warming spell, too...? and did that bug warm up
    and fly somewhere else....? :)
    The critter is gone, but don't know if flew off or fell off. Did warm
    up some, so probably flew off. LIS elsewhere, rather breezy out there this morning.

    So might have been blown off... ;)

    Cooled off a few degrees since I started this REP earlier and the ansiweather reports indicate the wind has died down some -- just
    hasn't registered those howling wind gusts!

    Gusts are harder to measure....

    And no more DSL issues -- maybe they checked yesterday to see what
    they screwed up the other night and fixed and rebooted this morning!

    Could be.... :) Or maybe the issues had to do with abnormal user
    volumes making things fluctuate....

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Wed Dec 4 09:02:00 2019

    Hi Nancy!

    Yup, you had a different situation... :)
    Right - six month temporary while I healed. Will admit to being a bit
    biased as for me it was a convenience versus a requirement. Not a
    health issue where shuffling 100 feet is a problem.
    I had one of those before... now mine is permanent... I'll admit it's
    somewhat of a convenience, but the extra walk can be a problem for me..
    I do tend to use the shopping cart as somewhat of a walker, too... :)
    I had a small reusable grocery bag (the rectangular woven kind)
    attached to the front of my walker via a shower curtain clip for transporting smaller/lighter items. When graduated to a cane used a plastic bag the newspapers come in to carry a bottled water around:
    wrap the handle portion around my hand plus grasp the cane. (Other
    hand was holding on to the bannister,)
    I never really got into that sort of thing... while I was using a
    real walker, I never tried to carry anything else... but then I
    had to keep all weight off my right ankle/leg for 10 weeks while
    the tendons reknit, so was hopping on one foot with the support
    of the walker.... once that was done and the pin taken out, I was
    allowed to walk again, and things were more back to normal by
    then... I was using the ride-em carts for a while in the store,
    though...

    Hopefully you avoided the urge to peel out! <g> As for the walker,
    again two different requirements: I was urged to walk and bear weight
    (even the morning after surgery) while you were to keep the weight off.
    For both of us the walker was more a means to not fall over while moving around.


    Specialists will tend to be expense "just because". Could even see
    where the dealer would send a customer to the specializing mechanic
    for certain repairs: the dealer not being specialized enough.
    That is the case with one of the mechanics we use.... even the
    dealers send any air conditioner problems to him....
    That mechanic/shop must be real good with air conditioners! Or else
    more cost-efficient to have one shop equipped with the Freon/etc.
    capture devices. (If a small dealership like "Jeff's Car Corner"
    would make sense to send out certain jobs, where as "Green Buick GMC"
    has a service building almost bigger than all of Jeff's Car Corner.)
    It's the big dealers that send their cars there, too... He is
    good with air conditioners... :)

    He must be real good then! Or has a sufficient reputation with the
    general public if the dealers and other shops did it themselves would
    cast a doubt.


    Iowa for whatever reason eliminated vehicle inspection decades ago -
    before I moved out here in 1975. New Hampshire I'm pretty sure was
    (and still is) twice a year -- maybe just once a year. Remember
    thinking no inspection not making sense: not for the "how does one know
    the car is safe" but more for courtesy items like brake lights and even
    headlights. (I've driven with a burnt-out headlamp -- can see but
    'seems a little dark'.)
    Here the inspection is yearly, partly for safety (brakes, lights,
    wipers, horn, windshield cracks, CV joints and similar) and partly
    for emissions...
    Which to me makes sense. Can check headlights and brakelights by
    oneself (reflection) or easier to have someone else look. Wipers,
    horn and cracked glass also easy (though ignorable). Mechanicals and emmissions -- is that why people don't crowd up against my rear end
    any more?!
    The car computer talks to the state computer and tattles on the emissions... the rest of it the mechanic checks, either while
    pulling the car into the bay, or while the car is up on the
    lift...

    I knew it! Cars computers do talk to other computers! Probably explains
    why us humans sometimes loose cars in parking lots: "I _know_ I parked
    it over here". Did; the car moved because it wanted to talk to a
    different group of cars!


    As for the registration stickers on the plate, they're supposed to be
    applied over each other. I take a paper napkin, towel, etc., to wipe
    the old one clean before applying the new -- the "stick'em" is really
    strong but always a hare afraid if don't make some attempt at cleaning
    the stack of stickers will fall off, especially after a few years'
    worth. Never heard of any such incident.
    But one can easily imagine it... and the disconcerted driver when
    stopped by police... I'd think that running it through the> computer
    would show that it actually was up-to-date, though....
    AFAIK one is supposed to have the registration sheet - the one the
    sticker as attached to -- in the car. As you said would presume easy enough to check if the registration was current.
    That too... ours is just a card we punch out and keep in the
    wallet or car....

    Hmm: we get a whole sheet of paper on which the current year's sticker
    is removed from and stuck to the rear plate.


    LIS, I've never had a problem with and never heard of a sticker
    falling off; could see someone taking a knife or screwdriver and
    peeling off just to be <nasty> but seems like there would be sufficient left to make it obvious was there at one time.
    Sometimes there's the problem of the whole plate going missing
    from front or back of the car (our state requires both)... But
    there, too, the police could run the registration number through
    the computer and see if it's up-to-date... they might still give
    a ticket, to give incentive to get to DMV and get the replacement quickly... :)

    Iowa requires both plates also; every so often discussion of having just
    the rear plate to decrease expenses. Don't know what happens if a plate
    falls off or is stolen; have seen plates hanging by one bolt but don't
    recall seeing a car without a plate and not having a temporary tag. We
    don't on-purpose check to see if the plates are present, though I do
    sort of glance while walking by as part of a cursory overall check.



    Cooled off a few degrees since I started this REP earlier and the ansiweather reports indicate the wind has died down some -- just
    hasn't registered those howling wind gusts!
    Gusts are harder to measure....

    Plus ansiweather doesn't have an option for gusts, just sustained. And
    along the weather line, supposed to be seasonaly nice here for the next
    several days, then I think it was Monday the temperature goes from upper
    40's into the lower 20's.


    And no more DSL issues -- maybe they checked yesterday to see what
    they screwed up the other night and fixed and rebooted this morning!
    Could be.... :) Or maybe the issues had to do with abnormal
    user volumes making things fluctuate....

    High usage would seem to just do a slow down, not a loss of the DSL
    signal. The good news is everything seems to be back to normal,
    including my download and upload numbers.



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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Tue Dec 10 19:16:12 2019
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 04-Dec-2019 09:02 <=-

    I had a small reusable grocery bag (the rectangular woven kind)
    attached to the front of my walker via a shower curtain clip for
    transporting smaller/lighter items. When graduated to a cane used a
    plastic bag the newspapers come in to carry a bottled water around:
    wrap the handle portion around my hand plus grasp the cane. (Other
    hand was holding on to the bannister,)
    I never really got into that sort of thing... while I was using a real
    walker, I never tried to carry anything else... but then I had to keep
    all weight off my right ankle/leg for 10 weeks while the tendons
    reknit, so was hopping on one foot with the support of the walker....
    once that was done and the pin taken out, I was allowed to walk again,
    and things were more back to normal by then... I was using the ride-em
    carts for a while in the store, though...
    Hopefully you avoided the urge to peel out! <g>

    Those carts just wouldn't.... :) One could walk faster than those would
    go... but they were handy when one can't walk because it's too painful,
    or would cause more problems.... :)

    As for the walker, again two different requirements: I was urged to
    walk and bear weight (even the morning after surgery) while you were
    to keep the weight off.

    Yup... Hip surgery they do usually get the patient up and moving right
    away.... knee or ankle usually there are other factors that need to keep
    weight off of them.... I had a friend that broke his ankle not that long
    after I did, and he was able to walk on his a lot sooner than I was....
    his was just a simple bone break, while mine pulled tendons and
    twisted...

    For both of us the walker was more a means to not fall over while
    moving around.

    Exactly. :)

    That is the case with one of the mechanics we use.... even the
    dealers send any air conditioner problems to him....
    That mechanic/shop must be real good with air conditioners! Or else
    more cost-efficient to have one shop equipped with the Freon/etc.
    capture devices. (If a small dealership like "Jeff's Car Corner"
    would make sense to send out certain jobs, where as "Green Buick GMC"
    has a service building almost bigger than all of Jeff's Car Corner.)
    It's the big dealers that send their cars there, too... He is
    good with air conditioners... :)
    He must be real good then! Or has a sufficient reputation with the general public if the dealers and other shops did it themselves would
    cast a doubt.

    I think it's just that he's very good, and has the equipment....

    The car computer talks to the state computer and tattles on the
    emissions... the rest of it the mechanic checks, either while
    pulling the car into the bay, or while the car is up on the lift...
    I knew it! Cars computers do talk to other computers! Probably
    explains why us humans sometimes loose cars in parking lots: "I _know_
    I parked it over here". Did; the car moved because it wanted to talk
    to a different group of cars!

    Um.... no. The mechanic has to physically connect the car to the state computer via a cable... :)

    As for the registration stickers on the plate, they're supposed to be
    applied over each other. I take a paper napkin, towel, etc., to wipe
    the old one clean before applying the new -- the "stick'em" is really
    strong but always a hare afraid if don't make some attempt at cleaning
    the stack of stickers will fall off, especially after a few years'
    worth. Never heard of any such incident.
    But one can easily imagine it... and the disconcerted driver when
    stopped by police... I'd think that running it through the> computer
    would show that it actually was up-to-date, though....
    AFAIK one is supposed to have the registration sheet - the one the
    sticker as attached to -- in the car. As you said would presume easy
    enough to check if the registration was current.
    That too... ours is just a card we punch out and keep in the wallet
    or car....
    Hmm: we get a whole sheet of paper on which the current year's sticker
    is removed from and stuck to the rear plate.

    Different states, different ways of doing things.... Ours might be a
    whole sheet, but it has the windshield sticker to peel off, a
    registration card to punch out, and a section that is a receipt for what
    we just paid for that 2-year registration....

    LIS, I've never had a problem with and never heard of a sticker
    falling off; could see someone taking a knife or screwdriver and
    peeling off just to be <nasty> but seems like there would be sufficient
    left to make it obvious was there at one time.
    Sometimes there's the problem of the whole plate going missing from
    front or back of the car (our state requires both)... But there, too,
    the police could run the registration number through the computer and
    see if it's up-to-date... they might still give a ticket, to give
    incentive to get to DMV and get the replacement quickly... :)
    Iowa requires both plates also; every so often discussion of having
    just the rear plate to decrease expenses. Don't know what happens if a plate falls off or is stolen; have seen plates hanging by one bolt but don't recall seeing a car without a plate and not having a temporary
    tag. We don't on-purpose check to see if the plates are present,
    though I do sort of glance while walking by as part of a cursory
    overall check.

    I see it here a lot more than I'd have expected.... there are times we
    wonder whether the owner of the vehicle is trying to pull a fast one,
    and have one plate of the set on each of two vehicles... no way to know
    unless one had stopped the car and really read the registration
    sticker... and/or ran the plates through the computer to see which
    vehicle it was registered to.... ;)

    Cooled off a few degrees since I started this REP earlier and the
    ansiweather reports indicate the wind has died down some -- just
    hasn't registered those howling wind gusts!
    Gusts are harder to measure....
    Plus ansiweather doesn't have an option for gusts, just sustained.
    And along the weather line, supposed to be seasonaly nice here for the next several days, then I think it was Monday the temperature goes from upper 40's into the lower 20's.

    Today the high of 50 was at about 3am... and it's been going down
    steadily since.... down in the 30s now....and to have a low tonight in
    the lower 20s... Highs tomorrow are only supposed to be in the 20s...

    And no more DSL issues -- maybe they checked yesterday to see what
    they screwed up the other night and fixed and rebooted this morning!
    Could be.... :) Or maybe the issues had to do with abnormal user
    volumes making things fluctuate....
    High usage would seem to just do a slow down, not a loss of the DSL signal. The good news is everything seems to be back to normal,
    including my download and upload numbers.

    That is good news. :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Wed Dec 11 10:03:00 2019

    Hi Nancy!

    I had a small reusable grocery bag (the rectangular woven kind)
    attached to the front of my walker via a shower curtain clip for
    transporting smaller/lighter items. When graduated to a cane used a
    plastic bag the newspapers come in to carry a bottled water around:
    wrap the handle portion around my hand plus grasp the cane. (Other
    hand was holding on to the bannister,)
    I never really got into that sort of thing... while I was using a real
    walker, I never tried to carry anything else... but then I had to keep
    all weight off my right ankle/leg for 10 weeks while the tendons
    reknit, so was hopping on one foot with the support of the walker....
    once that was done and the pin taken out, I was allowed to walk again,
    and things were more back to normal by then... I was using the ride-em
    carts for a while in the store, though...
    Hopefully you avoided the urge to peel out! <g>
    Those carts just wouldn't.... :) One could walk faster than
    those would go... but they were handy when one can't walk because
    it's too painful, or would cause more problems.... :)

    The ones at Hy-Vee seem like they could really get some speed up but
    probably just because of the motor and gear noise. Never seen on race
    down the straight-away(!).



    As for the walker, again two different requirements: I was urged to
    walk and bear weight (even the morning after surgery) while you were
    to keep the weight off.
    Yup... Hip surgery they do usually get the patient up and moving
    right away.... knee or ankle usually there are other factors that
    need to keep weight off of them.... I had a friend that broke his
    ankle not that long after I did, and he was able to walk on his a
    lot sooner than I was.... his was just a simple bone break, while
    mine pulled tendons and twisted...

    Just a little nastier! I think I told you some time back when the physiotherapist came in the morning after my surgery (had it some time
    in the early evening) and said we were going for a walk -- (me,
    something like) "you have the right patient? I just had surgery last
    night" -- thinking errors happen. easy enough to misremember the room
    number, etc. "Nope" and explained safety features of the belt and
    harness for support should I start to fall. ...And we were off! And
    no, no problems; I don't recall any tenderness much less pain.



    That is the case with one of the mechanics we use.... even the
    dealers send any air conditioner problems to him....
    That mechanic/shop must be real good with air conditioners! Or else
    more cost-efficient to have one shop equipped with the Freon/etc.
    capture devices. (If a small dealership like "Jeff's Car Corner"
    would make sense to send out certain jobs, where as "Green Buick GMC"
    has a service building almost bigger than all of Jeff's Car Corner.)
    It's the big dealers that send their cars there, too... He is
    good with air conditioners... :)
    He must be real good then! Or has a sufficient reputation with the general public if the dealers and other shops did it themselves would
    cast a doubt.
    I think it's just that he's very good, and has the equipment....

    And probably the licensing. Probabyl cheaper for the dealers to send customers to the one mechanic and shop than pay for the equipment, etc.



    As for the registration stickers on the plate, they're supposed to be
    applied over each other. I take a paper napkin, towel, etc., to wipe
    the old one clean before applying the new -- the "stick'em" is really
    strong but always a hare afraid if don't make some attempt at cleaning
    the stack of stickers will fall off, especially after a few years'
    worth. Never heard of any such incident.
    But one can easily imagine it... and the disconcerted driver when
    stopped by police... I'd think that running it through the> computer
    would show that it actually was up-to-date, though....
    AFAIK one is supposed to have the registration sheet - the one the
    sticker as attached to -- in the car. As you said would presume easy
    enough to check if the registration was current.
    That too... ours is just a card we punch out and keep in the wallet
    or car....
    Hmm: we get a whole sheet of paper on which the current year's sticker
    is removed from and stuck to the rear plate.
    Different states, different ways of doing things.... Ours might
    be a whole sheet, but it has the windshield sticker to peel off,
    a registration card to punch out, and a section that is a receipt
    for what we just paid for that 2-year registration....

    Another difference: Iowa's in yearly.


    LIS, I've never had a problem with and never heard of a sticker
    falling off; could see someone taking a knife or screwdriver and
    peeling off just to be <nasty> but seems like there would be sufficient
    left to make it obvious was there at one time.
    Sometimes there's the problem of the whole plate going missing from
    front or back of the car (our state requires both)... But there, too,
    the police could run the registration number through the computer and
    see if it's up-to-date... they might still give a ticket, to give
    incentive to get to DMV and get the replacement quickly... :)
    Iowa requires both plates also; every so often discussion of having
    just the rear plate to decrease expenses. Don't know what happens if a plate falls off or is stolen; have seen plates hanging by one bolt but don't recall seeing a car without a plate and not having a temporary
    tag. We don't on-purpose check to see if the plates are present,
    though I do sort of glance while walking by as part of a cursory
    overall check.
    I see it here a lot more than I'd have expected.... there are
    times we wonder whether the owner of the vehicle is trying to
    pull a fast one, and have one plate of the set on each of two
    vehicles... no way to know unless one had stopped the car and
    really read the registration sticker... and/or ran the plates
    through the computer to see which vehicle it was registered
    to.... ;)

    Right: a possibility. A few years ago we would drive by a parked car
    and it would be gone for a few days then back a different colour. Not constantly, but maybe three times a year. Could see that fly on the
    wall: "The plates are registered to a red Toyota, your Toyota is green."
    "It used to be red." ....



    Cooled off a few degrees since I started this REP earlier and the
    ansiweather reports indicate the wind has died down some -- just
    hasn't registered those howling wind gusts!
    Gusts are harder to measure....
    Plus ansiweather doesn't have an option for gusts, just sustained.
    And along the weather line, supposed to be seasonaly nice here for the next several days, then I think it was Monday the temperature goes from upper 40's into the lower 20's.
    Today the high of 50 was at about 3am... and it's been going
    down steadily since.... down in the 30s now....and to have a low
    tonight in the lower 20s... Highs tomorrow are only supposed to
    be in the 20s...

    Might be the beginnings of weather system we had a few days ago: had the
    40's, then one afternoon dropped 20-25 degrees. Beware the 'light
    flurries' at the end!! (Last I heard our "chance of flurries with no accumulation" was 1.1 inches.)


    And no more DSL issues -- maybe they checked yesterday to see what
    they screwed up the other night and fixed and rebooted this morning!
    Could be.... :) Or maybe the issues had to do with abnormal user
    volumes making things fluctuate....
    High usage would seem to just do a slow down, not a loss of the DSL signal. The good news is everything seems to be back to normal,
    including my download and upload numbers.
    That is good news. :)

    Yes, especially as I uploaded some vacation pictures to my cousin and
    that took -- not sure how long: started in the afternoon with a small
    test run -- slow but OK. Early evening half of the remainder -- couple
    files failed; got those. Mid-evening the other half, ended up letting
    run overnight but only about half uploaded. Restarted the session in
    the morning and was able to upload the remainder without issues. Just
    slow, and that's due to me not havign an all that fast DSL option
    (normally don't need).



    Barry_Martin_3@
    @Q.COM



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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Sat Dec 21 09:39:00 2019

    Hi Nancy!

    I was using the ride-em carts for a while in the store, though...
    Hopefully you avoided the urge to peel out! <g>
    Those carts just wouldn't.... :) One could walk faster than those
    would go... but they were handy when one can't walk because it's too
    painful, or would cause more problems.... :)
    The ones at Hy-Vee seem like they could really get some speed up but probably just because of the motor and gear noise. Never seen one
    race down the straight-away(!).
    Sometime when there are plenty available, and you have extra
    time, it might be an interesting experiment to try to ride/drive
    one... :)

    I was kidding with two of the women stockers the other day as a guy on a
    mobile scissor lift was scooting by about using one of those (the lift)
    as a shopping cart. Evolved into a would be handy for the two ladies to
    get to the top shelves. They're not petite but not quite tall enough to
    reach the top shelves easily.



    I think I told you some time back when the physiotherapist came in the morning after my surgery (had it some time in the early evening) and
    said we were going for a walk -- (me, something like) "you have the
    right patient? I just had surgery last night" -- thinking errors
    happen, easy enough to misremember the room number, etc. "Nope" and explained safety features of the belt and harness for support should
    I start to fall. ...And we were off! And no, no problems; I don't
    recall any tenderness much less pain.
    Yes, I remember you mentioning that... My dad had the same
    reaction to his first encounter with the PT the day after his hip surgery... ;)

    Logically it would seem to give some time for the bones to mend; OTOH if there's something in there holding one's pieces together.....


    AFAIK one is supposed to have the registration sheet - the one the
    sticker as attached to -- in the car. As you said would presume easy
    enough to check if the registration was current.
    That too... ours is just a card we punch out and keep in the wallet
    or car....
    Hmm: we get a whole sheet of paper on which the current year's sticker
    is removed from and stuck to the rear plate.
    Different states, different ways of doing things.... Ours might be a
    whole sheet, but it has the windshield sticker to peel off, a
    registration card to punch out, and a section that is a receipt for
    what we just paid for that 2-year registration....
    Another difference: Iowa's is yearly.
    Ours used to be, but I guess NYS decided that the savings in
    paperwork was worth going to a 2-year...

    Probably. There has also been talk of going to a single plate -- just
    the rear plate. I guess the police prefer two plates but it seems not a requirement.


    I see it here a lot more than I'd have expected.... there are times
    we wonder whether the owner of the vehicle is trying to pull a fast
    one, and have one plate of the set on each of two vehicles... no way
    to know unless one had stopped the car and really read the
    registration sticker... and/or ran the plates through the computer
    to see which vehicle it was registered to.... ;)
    Right: a possibility. A few years ago we would drive by a parked car
    and it would be gone for a few days then back a different colour. Not constantly, but maybe three times a year. Could see that fly on the
    wall: "The plates are registered to a red Toyota, your Toyota is
    green." "It used to be red." ....
    So the plates were still the same each time....? I suppose that
    someone might be into changing the color of the car, like some
    people like to redecorate every season... Or the car was being
    driven by a Toyota salesman and it got changed out
    periodically....

    AFAICT it was the same car because of the bumper stickers. Plus it was
    an older car and a car salesman would probably drive a current model.
    Almost seemed like the car was used in racing as seemed like it
    sometimes had a number on the side, but not the past year or so (and
    appears to be the same car).


    Plus ansiweather doesn't have an option for gusts, just sustained.
    And along the weather line, supposed to be seasonaly nice here for the
    next several days, then I think it was Monday the temperature goes from
    upper 40's into the lower 20's.
    Today the high of 50 was at about 3am... and it's been going down
    steadily since.... down in the 30s now....and to have a low tonight in
    the lower 20s... Highs tomorrow are only supposed to be in the 20s...
    Might be the beginnings of weather system we had a few days ago: had
    the 40's, then one afternoon dropped 20-25 degrees. Beware the 'light flurries' at the end!! (Last I heard our "chance of flurries with no accumulation" was 1.1 inches.)
    Around here, the forecasters habitually waffle on the amount of
    potential accumulation... especially with lake effect snow, which
    can be in narrow bands, affecting only certain parts of the
    area... Overall, lately we've ended up with less than the
    predictions, though others in slightly different parts of the
    area had more than the predictions....

    Yes, we can have a storm come through and it wil be all rain is southern eastern Iowa (Burlington), all snow in northern eastern Iowa (Dubuque)
    and mixed here (Davenport/Bettendorf/Quad Cities). Or "why is your car
    all wet?" "It was raining on <site a couple miles from the house>."
    "Huh: no rain here."


    And no more DSL issues -- maybe they checked yesterday to see what
    they screwed up the other night and fixed and rebooted this morning!
    Could be.... :) Or maybe the issues had to do with abnormal user
    volumes making things fluctuate....
    High usage would seem to just do a slow down, not a loss of the DSL
    signal. The good news is everything seems to be back to normal,
    including my download and upload numbers.
    That is good news. :)
    Yes, especially as I uploaded some vacation pictures to my cousin and
    that took -- not sure how long: started in the afternoon with a small
    test run -- slow but OK. Early evening half of the remainder --
    couple files failed; got those. Mid-evening the other half, ended up letting run overnight but only about half uploaded. Restarted the
    session in the morning and was able to upload the remainder without issues. Just slow, and that's due to me not having an all that fast
    DSL option (normally don't need).
    Some of it might have been due to it going overseas, too....

    I think they're located in the U.S, but who knows how the data got to
    them: data feed to (say) California busy? Run it through to Japan and
    back the other way!

    (Nerdy fun: run in private mode and note where sites think you are.)



    Oh... and I checked out the tagline limit in Bluewave, it's a 70
    character limit here.... MultiMail's might be 75...

    OK, thanks. I took a semi-quick look here but didn't see a number.


    ... How can I run amok? I don't even own one.

    Have you checked in the online manual?


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    @Q.COM



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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Tue Dec 31 18:58:36 2019
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 21-Dec-2019 09:39 <=-

    Hopefully you avoided the urge to peel out! <g>
    Those carts just wouldn't.... :) One could walk faster than those
    would go... but they were handy when one can't walk because it's too
    painful, or would cause more problems.... :)
    The ones at Hy-Vee seem like they could really get some speed up but
    probably just because of the motor and gear noise. Never seen one
    race down the straight-away(!).
    Sometime when there are plenty available, and you have extra time,
    it might be an interesting experiment to try to ride/drive one... :)
    I was kidding with two of the women stockers the other day as a guy on
    a mobile scissor lift was scooting by about using one of those (the
    lift) as a shopping cart. Evolved into a would be handy for the two ladies to get to the top shelves. They're not petite but not quite
    tall enough to reach the top shelves easily.

    I'm a little surprised that the guy was allowed to use the cart in that
    way... but it would indeed add a little reach... ;)

    I think I told you some time back when the physiotherapist came in the
    morning after my surgery (had it some time in the early evening) and
    said we were going for a walk -- (me, something like) "you have the
    right patient? I just had surgery last night" -- thinking errors
    happen, easy enough to misremember the room number, etc. "Nope" and
    explained safety features of the belt and harness for support should
    I start to fall. ...And we were off! And no, no problems; I don't
    recall any tenderness much less pain.
    Yes, I remember you mentioning that... My dad had the same reaction
    to his first encounter with the PT the day after his hip surgery... ;)
    Logically it would seem to give some time for the bones to mend; OTOH
    if there's something in there holding one's pieces together.....

    With the hip, that is indeed the case... put together in such a way that
    things are held together... and walking on it apparently helps to
    solidify that connection, unlike some of the other surgeries....

    Different states, different ways of doing things.... Ours might be
    a whole sheet, but it has the windshield sticker to peel off, a
    registration card to punch out, and a section that is a receipt for
    what we just paid for that 2-year registration....
    Another difference: Iowa's is yearly.
    Ours used to be, but I guess NYS decided that the savings in paperwork
    was worth going to a 2-year...
    Probably. There has also been talk of going to a single plate -- just
    the rear plate. I guess the police prefer two plates but it seems not
    a requirement.

    Some states do only have a rear plate...

    Right: a possibility. A few years ago we would drive by a parked car
    and it would be gone for a few days then back a different colour. Not
    constantly, but maybe three times a year. Could see that fly on the
    wall: "The plates are registered to a red Toyota, your Toyota is
    green." "It used to be red." ....
    So the plates were still the same each time....? I suppose that
    someone might be into changing the color of the car, like some people
    like to redecorate every season... Or the car was being driven by
    a Toyota salesman and it got changed out periodically....
    AFAICT it was the same car because of the bumper stickers. Plus it
    was an older car and a car salesman would probably drive a current
    model. Almost seemed like the car was used in racing as seemed like it sometimes had a number on the side, but not the past year or so (and appears to be the same car).

    Using in racing could explain it... the new paint job might have been
    because of having a new sponsor, or maybe because there was some damage
    needing repair, and might as well change the color while we're at it... ;)

    Might be the beginnings of weather system we had a few days ago: had
    the 40's, then one afternoon dropped 20-25 degrees. Beware the 'light
    flurries' at the end!! (Last I heard our "chance of flurries with no
    accumulation" was 1.1 inches.)
    Around here, the forecasters habitually waffle on the amount of
    potential accumulation... especially with lake effect snow, which
    can be in narrow bands, affecting only certain parts of the area...
    Overall, lately we've ended up with less than the predictions, though
    others in slightly different parts of the area had more than the
    predictions....
    Yes, we can have a storm come through and it will be all rain in
    southern eastern Iowa (Burlington), all snow in northern eastern Iowa (Dubuque) and mixed here (Davenport/Bettendorf/Quad Cities). Or "why
    is your car all wet?" "It was raining on <site a couple miles from the house>." "Huh: no rain here."

    Well, the storm does have to have an edge somewhere.... ;)

    Yes, especially as I uploaded some vacation pictures to my cousin and
    that took -- not sure how long: started in the afternoon with a small
    test run -- slow but OK. Early evening half of the remainder --
    couple files failed; got those. Mid-evening the other half, ended up
    letting run overnight but only about half uploaded. Restarted the
    session in the morning and was able to upload the remainder without
    issues. Just slow, and that's due to me not having an all that fast
    DSL option (normally don't need).
    Some of it might have been due to it going overseas, too....
    I think they're located in the U.S, but who knows how the data got to them: data feed to (say) California busy? Run it through to Japan and back the other way!

    Isn't your cousin in Germany....? Or were you sending to another
    cousin...?

    (Nerdy fun: run in private mode and note where sites think you are.)

    That is rather nerdy... one needs to know how to do that in the first
    place... <G>

    Oh... and I checked out the tagline limit in Bluewave, it's a 70
    character limit here.... MultiMail's might be 75...
    OK, thanks. I took a semi-quick look here but didn't see a number.

    I didn't look for any written explanations, just counted the characters
    in the longest allowable taglines... ;)

    ... How can I run amok? I don't even own one.
    Have you checked in the online manual?

    You mean it might be documented somewhere.....? <G>

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Wed Jan 1 08:51:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    Hopefully you avoided the urge to peel out! <g>
    Those carts just wouldn't.... :) One could walk faster than those
    would go... but they were handy when one can't walk because it's too
    painful, or would cause more problems.... :)
    The ones at Hy-Vee seem like they could really get some speed up but
    probably just because of the motor and gear noise. Never seen one
    race down the straight-away(!).
    Sometime when there are plenty available, and you have extra time,
    it might be an interesting experiment to try to ride/drive one... :)
    I was kidding with two of the women stockers the other day as a guy on
    a mobile scissor lift was scooting by about using one of those (the
    lift) as a shopping cart. Evolved into a would be handy for the two ladies to get to the top shelves. They're not petite but not quite
    tall enough to reach the top shelves easily.
    I'm a little surprised that the guy was allowed to use the cart
    in that way... but it would indeed add a little reach... ;)

    Nope: I clobbered that one. The worker was using the scissor lift
    properly, just riding it from one point to another in the store (the
    controls are in the basket). The joke comment to the ladies was to use
    it as a shopping cart and reach the upper shelves.



    I think I told you some time back when the physiotherapist came in the
    morning after my surgery (had it some time in the early evening) and
    said we were going for a walk -- (me, something like) "you have the
    right patient? I just had surgery last night" -- thinking errors
    happen, easy enough to misremember the room number, etc. "Nope" and
    explained safety features of the belt and harness for support should
    I start to fall. ...And we were off! And no, no problems; I don't
    recall any tenderness much less pain.
    Yes, I remember you mentioning that... My dad had the same reaction
    to his first encounter with the PT the day after his hip surgery... ;)
    Logically it would seem to give some time for the bones to mend; OTOH
    if there's something in there holding one's pieces together.....
    With the hip, that is indeed the case... put together in such a
    way that things are held together... and walking on it apparently
    helps to solidify that connection, unlike some of the other
    surgeries....

    Right. I thought sure there would be some pain at the fracture site
    with the two pieces grinding/moving against each other -- sure was
    painful when I moved before the surgery! Probably whatever medication I
    was on helped, though I had asked and the reply was something so if
    there as a problem and I should feel pain I would. And so we're off
    down the hallway walking with a broken leg.



    Different states, different ways of doing things.... Ours might be
    a whole sheet, but it has the windshield sticker to peel off, a
    registration card to punch out, and a section that is a receipt for
    what we just paid for that 2-year registration....
    Another difference: Iowa's is yearly.
    Ours used to be, but I guess NYS decided that the savings in paperwork
    was worth going to a 2-year...
    Probably. There has also been talk of going to a single plate -- just
    the rear plate. I guess the police prefer two plates but it seems not
    a requirement.
    Some states do only have a rear plate...

    Yes; apparently works out.


    Right: a possibility. A few years ago we would drive by a parked car
    and it would be gone for a few days then back a different colour. Not
    constantly, but maybe three times a year. Could see that fly on the
    wall: "The plates are registered to a red Toyota, your Toyota is
    green." "It used to be red." ....
    So the plates were still the same each time....? I suppose that
    someone might be into changing the color of the car, like some people
    like to redecorate every season... Or the car was being driven by
    a Toyota salesman and it got changed out periodically....
    AFAICT it was the same car because of the bumper stickers. Plus it
    was an older car and a car salesman would probably drive a current
    model. Almost seemed like the car was used in racing as seemed like it sometimes had a number on the side, but not the past year or so (and appears to be the same car).
    Using in racing could explain it... the new paint job might have
    been because of having a new sponsor, or maybe because there was
    some damage needing repair, and might as well change the color
    while we're at it... ;)

    Makes sense!


    Might be the beginnings of weather system we had a few days ago: had
    the 40's, then one afternoon dropped 20-25 degrees. Beware the 'light
    flurries' at the end!! (Last I heard our "chance of flurries with no
    accumulation" was 1.1 inches.)
    Around here, the forecasters habitually waffle on the amount of
    potential accumulation... especially with lake effect snow, which
    can be in narrow bands, affecting only certain parts of the area...
    Overall, lately we've ended up with less than the predictions, though
    others in slightly different parts of the area had more than the
    predictions....
    Yes, we can have a storm come through and it will be all rain in
    southern eastern Iowa (Burlington), all snow in northern eastern Iowa (Dubuque) and mixed here (Davenport/Bettendorf/Quad Cities). Or "why
    is your car all wet?" "It was raining on <site a couple miles from the house>." "Huh: no rain here."
    Well, the storm does have to have an edge somewhere.... ;)

    True, just seems odd that well-defined, though have experienced rain
    showers starting or stopping: in the backyard and at first a few
    raindrops, then more and then it's a downpour!


    Yes, especially as I uploaded some vacation pictures to my cousin and
    that took -- not sure how long: started in the afternoon with a small
    test run -- slow but OK. Early evening half of the remainder --
    couple files failed; got those. Mid-evening the other half, ended up
    letting run overnight but only about half uploaded. Restarted the
    session in the morning and was able to upload the remainder without
    issues. Just slow, and that's due to me not having an all that fast
    DSL option (normally don't need).
    Some of it might have been due to it going overseas, too....
    I think they're located in the U.S, but who knows how the data got to them: data feed to (say) California busy? Run it through to Japan and back the other way!
    Isn't your cousin in Germany....? Or were you sending to another cousin...?

    My cousin in Austria, yes.


    (Nerdy fun: run in private mode and note where sites think you are.)
    That is rather nerdy... one needs to know how to do that in the
    first place... <G>

    Right-click the Firefox icon and select 'Private Window". ...Which
    doesn't completely hide one from the outside world, just keeps me from
    getting more unrequested mail. ...I was looking for battery chargers / maintainers yesterday. Have an older one but manual says not for use
    with the type of battery I need it for (automotive yes, UPS no; and to complicate that some automotive batteries are the UPS type and vice
    versa. "AGM" if anyone wants that detail.). So looking around in
    Private Mode, essentially getting information and prices (most are of
    the OMG type!). Selected one, switch to regular mode and purchased.


    Oh... and I checked out the tagline limit in Bluewave, it's a 70
    character limit here.... MultiMail's might be 75...
    OK, thanks. I took a semi-quick look here but didn't see a number.
    I didn't look for any written explanations, just counted the
    characters in the longest allowable taglines... ;)

    When I do my tagline sessions I'm adding to the file so just go by the
    end point of the longest taglines.


    ... How can I run amok? I don't even own one.
    Have you checked in the online manual?
    You mean it might be documented somewhere.....? <G>

    Entirely possible. Or at least a YouTube post.


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    @Q.COM



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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Tue Jan 7 18:16:54 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 01-Jan-2020 08:51 <=-

    I was kidding with two of the women stockers the other day as a guy on
    a mobile scissor lift was scooting by about using one of those (the
    lift) as a shopping cart. Evolved into a would be handy for the two
    ladies to get to the top shelves. They're not petite but not quite
    tall enough to reach the top shelves easily.
    I'm a little surprised that the guy was allowed to use the cart in
    that way... but it would indeed add a little reach... ;)
    Nope: I clobbered that one. The worker was using the scissor lift properly, just riding it from one point to another in the store (the controls are in the basket). The joke comment to the ladies was to
    use it as a shopping cart and reach the upper shelves.

    Ah, I misparsed that one... I think it might have been only half-kidding
    though for them as stockers to need something like that to reach the top shelves... ;)

    I think I told you some time back when the physiotherapist came in the
    morning after my surgery (had it some time in the early evening) and
    said we were going for a walk -- (me, something like) "you have the
    right patient? I just had surgery last night" -- thinking errors
    happen, easy enough to misremember the room number, etc. "Nope" and
    explained safety features of the belt and harness for support should
    I start to fall. ...And we were off! And no, no problems; I don't
    recall any tenderness much less pain.
    Yes, I remember you mentioning that... My dad had the same reaction
    to his first encounter with the PT the day after his hip surgery... ;)
    Logically it would seem to give some time for the bones to mend; OTOH
    if there's something in there holding one's pieces together.....
    With the hip, that is indeed the case... put together in such a way
    that things are held together... and walking on it apparently helps
    to solidify that connection, unlike some of the other surgeries....
    Right. I thought sure there would be some pain at the fracture site
    with the two pieces grinding/moving against each other -- sure was
    painful when I moved before the surgery! Probably whatever medication
    I was on helped, though I had asked and the reply was something so if there was a problem and I should feel pain I would. And so we're off
    down the hallway walking with a broken leg.

    After the surgery, it wasn't a broken leg anymore.... :) You'd have the post-surgical pain from the incisions, but they stabilize the leg in the process, so you'd not have that pain anymore.... With Daddy, they
    replaced the top part of the hip with an artificial ball for the socket,
    the shape of that was a ball at the top going down into a taper that fit
    into his existing bone, and replaced that top part of the bone... Indeed
    was better than before...

    what we just paid for that 2-year registration....
    Another difference: Iowa's is yearly.
    Ours used to be, but I guess NYS decided that the savings in paperwork
    was worth going to a 2-year...
    Probably. There has also been talk of going to a single plate -- just
    the rear plate. I guess the police prefer two plates but it seems not
    a requirement.
    Some states do only have a rear plate...
    Yes; apparently works out.

    Leaves room in the front for advertising.... <G>

    Yes, we can have a storm come through and it will be all rain in
    southern eastern Iowa (Burlington), all snow in northern eastern Iowa
    (Dubuque) and mixed here (Davenport/Bettendorf/Quad Cities). Or "why
    is your car all wet?" "It was raining on <site a couple miles from the
    house>." "Huh: no rain here."
    Well, the storm does have to have an edge somewhere.... ;)
    True, just seems odd that well-defined, though have experienced rain showers starting or stopping: in the backyard and at first a few raindrops, then more and then it's a downpour!

    I guess sometimes the edge can be more well defined than other times...
    I've seen storms moving in from the Pond... you can see the drops of
    rain on the water surface, and clearly nothing up at the camp... and
    then it's raining a few feet from the camp, but still not on the camp
    itself... and then it reaches the camp.... :)

    Yes, especially as I uploaded some vacation pictures to my cousin and
    that took -- not sure how long: started in the afternoon with a small
    test run -- slow but OK. Early evening half of the remainder --
    couple files failed; got those. Mid-evening the other half, ended up
    letting run overnight but only about half uploaded. Restarted the
    session in the morning and was able to upload the remainder without
    issues. Just slow, and that's due to me not having an all that fast
    DSL option (normally don't need).
    Some of it might have been due to it going overseas, too....
    I think they're located in the U.S, but who knows how the data got to
    them: data feed to (say) California busy? Run it through to Japan and
    back the other way!
    Isn't your cousin in Germany....? Or were you sending to another
    cousin...?
    My cousin in Austria, yes.

    Ok, so the data was going overseas to Austria.... would have started
    with your service here in the states, but somehow had to get overseas in
    the process... which, AIS, might have slowed the transmission down for
    whatever reason... :)

    (Nerdy fun: run in private mode and note where sites think you are.)
    That is rather nerdy... one needs to know how to do that in the
    first place... <G>
    Right-click the Firefox icon and select 'Private Window". ...Which doesn't completely hide one from the outside world, just keeps me from getting more unrequested mail.

    Not something I'd be doing... and wouldn't be using Firefox anyway... :)
    But I think I follow... ;)

    ...I was looking for battery chargers/maintainers yesterday. Have an
    older one but manual says not for use with the type of battery I need
    it for (automotive yes, UPS no; and to complicate that some automotive batteries are the UPS type and vice versa. "AGM" if anyone wants that detail.). So looking around in Private Mode, essentially getting information and prices (most are of the OMG type!). Selected one,
    switch to regular mode and purchased.

    So you found someting suitable.... :) And I see the example... ;)

    Oh... and I checked out the tagline limit in Bluewave, it's a 70
    character limit here.... MultiMail's might be 75...
    OK, thanks. I took a semi-quick look here but didn't see a number.
    I didn't look for any written explanations, just counted the
    characters in the longest allowable taglines... ;)
    When I do my tagline sessions I'm adding to the file so just go by the
    end point of the longest taglines.

    Makes sense... :)

    ... How can I run amok? I don't even own one.
    Have you checked in the online manual?
    You mean it might be documented somewhere.....? <G>
    Entirely possible. Or at least a YouTube post.

    You can find just about anything on YouTube, or at least so I've
    heard... that's another thing I don't do... :)

    ttyl neb

    ... Dog for sale: Eats anything - Is fond of children.

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Wed Jan 8 10:06:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    I was kidding with two of the women stockers the other day as a guy on
    a mobile scissor lift was scooting by about using one of those (the
    lift) as a shopping cart. Evolved into a would be handy for the two
    ladies to get to the top shelves. They're not petite but not quite
    tall enough to reach the top shelves easily.
    I'm a little surprised that the guy was allowed to use the cart in
    that way... but it would indeed add a little reach... ;)
    Nope: I clobbered that one. The worker was using the scissor lift properly, just riding it from one point to another in the store (the controls are in the basket). The joke comment to the ladies was to
    use it as a shopping cart and reach the upper shelves.
    Ah, I misparsed that one... I think it might have been only
    half-kidding though for them as stockers to need something like
    that to reach the top shelves... ;)

    There are times it would be handy! LISB4, I had helped Hy-Vee associate helping a customer because neither one could reach an item on the top
    shelf. The shelf wasn't all that high, just the item the customer
    wanted was towards the back (front ones being sold and shelf had not
    been faced).


    I think I told you some time back when the physiotherapist came in the
    morning after my surgery (had it some time in the early evening) and
    said we were going for a walk -- (me, something like) "you have the
    right patient? I just had surgery last night" -- thinking errors
    happen, easy enough to misremember the room number, etc. "Nope" and
    explained safety features of the belt and harness for support should
    I start to fall. ...And we were off! And no, no problems; I don't
    recall any tenderness much less pain.
    Yes, I remember you mentioning that... My dad had the same reaction
    to his first encounter with the PT the day after his hip surgery... ;)
    Logically it would seem to give some time for the bones to mend; OTOH
    if there's something in there holding one's pieces together.....
    With the hip, that is indeed the case... put together in such a way
    that things are held together... and walking on it apparently helps
    to solidify that connection, unlike some of the other surgeries....
    Right. I thought sure there would be some pain at the fracture site
    with the two pieces grinding/moving against each other -- sure was
    painful when I moved before the surgery! Probably whatever medication
    I was on helped, though I had asked and the reply was something so if there was a problem and I should feel pain I would. And so we're off
    down the hallway walking with a broken leg.
    After the surgery, it wasn't a broken leg anymore.... :)

    Well it wasn't broken apart, true.

    You'd have the post-surgical pain from the incisions, but they
    stabilize the leg in the process, so you'd not have that pain

    Actually I don't recall any pain/tenderness from the incisions. Maybe
    just buried as part of the healing process and nothing noteworthy. Do
    recall being surprised at the number of staples 'holding me together'.

    anymore.... With Daddy, they replaced the top part of the hip
    with an artificial ball for the socket, the shape of that was a
    ball at the top going down into a taper that fit into his
    existing bone, and replaced that top part of the bone... Indeed
    was better than before...

    That's good! Yes, have seen pictures of the leg's half of the
    replacement -- then imagine the surgery: hammer in garden stake, pop on
    the cap.


    what we just paid for that 2-year registration....
    Another difference: Iowa's is yearly.
    Ours used to be, but I guess NYS decided that the savings in paperwork
    was worth going to a 2-year...
    Probably. There has also been talk of going to a single plate -- just
    the rear plate. I guess the police prefer two plates but it seems not
    a requirement.
    Some states do only have a rear plate...
    Yes; apparently works out.
    Leaves room in the front for advertising.... <G>

    Or silly signs like maybe "rabid driver! stay away!" to prevent other
    cars from hitting! <g>


    Yes, we can have a storm come through and it will be all rain in
    southern eastern Iowa (Burlington), all snow in northern eastern Iowa
    (Dubuque) and mixed here (Davenport/Bettendorf/Quad Cities). Or "why
    is your car all wet?" "It was raining on <site a couple miles from the
    house>." "Huh: no rain here."
    Well, the storm does have to have an edge somewhere.... ;)
    True, just seems odd that well-defined, though have experienced rain showers starting or stopping: in the backyard and at first a few raindrops, then more and then it's a downpour!
    I guess sometimes the edge can be more well defined than other
    times... I've seen storms moving in from the Pond... you can see
    the drops of rain on the water surface, and clearly nothing up at
    the camp... and then it's raining a few feet from the camp, but
    still not on the camp itself... and then it reaches the camp....
    :)

    That would be rather neat to experience! I may have: have seen rain
    coming in but not clearly defined on grass, etc., as it would be on
    water.


    Yes, especially as I uploaded some vacation pictures to my cousin and
    that took -- not sure how long: started in the afternoon with a small
    test run -- slow but OK. Early evening half of the remainder --
    couple files failed; got those. Mid-evening the other half, ended up
    letting run overnight but only about half uploaded. Restarted the
    session in the morning and was able to upload the remainder without
    issues. Just slow, and that's due to me not having an all that fast
    DSL option (normally don't need).
    Some of it might have been due to it going overseas, too....
    I think they're located in the U.S, but who knows how the data got to
    them: data feed to (say) California busy? Run it through to Japan and
    back the other way!
    Isn't your cousin in Germany....? Or were you sending to another
    cousin...?
    My cousin in Austria, yes.
    Ok, so the data was going overseas to Austria.... would have
    started with your service here in the states, but somehow had to
    get overseas in the process... which, AIS, might have slowed the transmission down for whatever reason... :)

    He would have had that issue, not me: I had uploaded to a site called
    Box.com. I think located in the U.S. but not certain, plus could have
    storage all over the globe. My upload problem could have been caused
    by multiple issues: a glitch at Box, problems with DSL/onward
    connections, trying to upload too much at once with a slow line.....


    (Nerdy fun: run in private mode and note where sites think you are.)
    That is rather nerdy... one needs to know how to do that in the
    first place... <G>
    Right-click the Firefox icon and select 'Private Window". ...Which doesn't completely hide one from the outside world, just keeps me from getting more unrequested mail.
    Not something I'd be doing... and wouldn't be using Firefox
    anyway... :) But I think I follow... ;)

    Because you're a smart cookie! :)


    ...I was looking for battery chargers/maintainers yesterday. Have an
    older one but manual says not for use with the type of battery I need
    it for (automotive yes, UPS no; and to complicate that some automotive batteries are the UPS type and vice versa. "AGM" if anyone wants that detail.). So looking around in Private Mode, essentially getting information and prices (most are of the OMG type!). Selected one,
    switch to regular mode and purchased.
    So you found someting suitable.... :) And I see the example...
    ;)

    Yes - the battery charger/maintainer hasn't arrived yet so don't know
    how well it works yet. From what I read the wrong type of charger can overcharge and/or charge to fast ==> don't want the chemicals inside the battery to boil.



    ... How can I run amok? I don't even own one.
    Have you checked in the online manual?
    You mean it might be documented somewhere.....? <G>
    Entirely possible. Or at least a YouTube post.
    You can find just about anything on YouTube, or at least so I've
    heard... that's another thing I don't do... :)

    I've been on YouTube for something specific and then have been sucked
    into the suggested videos on more than one occasion; most interesting as
    I've selected them, some of the "well that was a waste" - just like
    anything. Have made links to it; an old show's episode to explain a
    phrase or thought (the 'Festivus' episode of _Seinfeld_, for example).


    ... Dog for sale: Eats anything - Is fond of children.

    What is "I'll take 'Misplaced Modifiers' for $600.".


    Barry_Martin_3@
    @Q.COM



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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Tue Jan 14 02:20:24 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 08-Jan-2020 10:06 <=-

    I'm a little surprised that the guy was allowed to use the cart in
    that way... but it would indeed add a little reach... ;)
    Nope: I clobbered that one. The worker was using the scissor lift
    properly, just riding it from one point to another in the store (the
    controls are in the basket). The joke comment to the ladies was to
    use it as a shopping cart and reach the upper shelves.
    Ah, I misparsed that one... I think it might have been only
    half-kidding though for them as stockers to need something like that
    to reach the top shelves... ;)
    There are times it would be handy! LISB4, I had helped a Hy-Vee
    associate helping a customer because neither one could reach an item on the top shelf. The shelf wasn't all that high, just the item the
    customer wanted was towards the back (front ones being sold and shelf
    had not been faced).

    That can be an issue... there have been a few times that I've had to
    have Richard reach something way in the back on the top shelf... just
    couldn't reach it on my own.... :)

    to his first encounter with the PT the day after his hip surgery... ;)
    Logically it would seem to give some time for the bones to mend; OTOH
    if there's something in there holding one's pieces together.....
    With the hip, that is indeed the case... put together in such a way
    that things are held together... and walking on it apparently helps
    to solidify that connection, unlike some of the other surgeries....
    Right. I thought sure there would be some pain at the fracture site
    with the two pieces grinding/moving against each other -- sure was
    painful when I moved before the surgery! Probably whatever medication
    I was on helped, though I had asked and the reply was something so if
    there was a problem and I should feel pain I would. And so we're off
    down the hallway walking with a broken leg.
    After the surgery, it wasn't a broken leg anymore.... :)
    Well it wasn't broken apart, true.

    It had been surgically put back together again... :)

    You'd have the post-surgical pain from the incisions, but they
    stabilize the leg in the process, so you'd not have that pain
    Actually I don't recall any pain/tenderness from the incisions. Maybe just buried as part of the healing process and nothing noteworthy. Do recall being surprised at the number of staples 'holding me together'.

    You are lucky you could use the staples... my body reacts to them, and
    the sites fester.... I have to have the old-fashioned suture thread...

    anymore.... With Daddy, they replaced the top part of the hip
    with an artificial ball for the socket, the shape of that was a
    ball at the top going down into a taper that fit into his
    existing bone, and replaced that top part of the bone... Indeed
    was better than before...
    That's good! Yes, have seen pictures of the leg's half of the
    replacement -- then imagine the surgery: hammer in garden stake, pop
    on the cap.

    Probably somewhat similar... <G> Actually, as I recall, the "stake"
    part and the "cap" part were already part of one piece... don't remember exactly how they got it to stay in the bone, though... may have used
    medical super glue or something... :)

    Probably. There has also been talk of going to a single plate -- just
    the rear plate. I guess the police prefer two plates but it seems not
    a requirement.
    Some states do only have a rear plate...
    Yes; apparently works out.
    Leaves room in the front for advertising.... <G>
    Or silly signs like maybe "rabid driver! stay away!" to prevent other
    cars from hitting! <g>

    Haven't actually seen that one yet... but yes, similar... :)

    Yes, we can have a storm come through and it will be all rain in
    southern eastern Iowa (Burlington), all snow in northern eastern Iowa
    (Dubuque) and mixed here (Davenport/Bettendorf/Quad Cities). Or "why
    is your car all wet?" "It was raining on <site a couple miles from the
    house>." "Huh: no rain here."
    Well, the storm does have to have an edge somewhere.... ;)
    True, just seems odd that well-defined, though have experienced rain
    showers starting or stopping: in the backyard and at first a few
    raindrops, then more and then it's a downpour!
    I guess sometimes the edge can be more well defined than other times...
    I've seen storms moving in from the Pond... you can see the drops of
    rain on the water surface, and clearly nothing up at the camp... and
    then it's raining a few feet from the camp, but still not on the camp
    itself... and then it reaches the camp.... :)
    That would be rather neat to experience! I may have: have seen rain coming in but not clearly defined on grass, etc., as it would be on
    water.

    Yes, it is easier to see where the rain is landing when you see the
    ripples on the water... :)

    Yes, especially as I uploaded some vacation pictures to my cousin and
    that took -- not sure how long: started in the afternoon with a small
    test run -- slow but OK. Early evening half of the remainder --
    couple files failed; got those. Mid-evening the other half, ended up
    letting run overnight but only about half uploaded. Restarted the
    session in the morning and was able to upload the remainder without
    issues. Just slow, and that's due to me not having an all that fast
    DSL option (normally don't need).
    Some of it might have been due to it going overseas, too....
    I think they're located in the U.S, but who knows how the data got to
    them: data feed to (say) California busy? Run it through to Japan and
    back the other way!
    Isn't your cousin in Germany....? Or were you sending to another
    cousin...?
    My cousin in Austria, yes.
    Ok, so the data was going overseas to Austria.... would have started
    with your service here in the states, but somehow had to get overseas
    in the process... which, AIS, might have slowed the transmission down
    for whatever reason... :)
    He would have had that issue, not me: I had uploaded to a site called Box.com. I think located in the U.S. but not certain, plus could have storage all over the globe. My upload problem could have been caused
    by multiple issues: a glitch at Box, problems with DSL/onward
    connections, trying to upload too much at once with a slow line.....

    Ah... so you upload there, and then he goes to retrieve it from there...
    I see... Of course, it could be located just about anywhere...

    ...I was looking for battery chargers/maintainers yesterday. Have an
    older one but manual says not for use with the type of battery I need
    it for (automotive yes, UPS no; and to complicate that some automotive
    batteries are the UPS type and vice versa. "AGM" if anyone wants that
    detail.). So looking around in Private Mode, essentially getting
    information and prices (most are of the OMG type!). Selected one,
    switch to regular mode and purchased.
    So you found someting suitable.... :) And I see the example... ;)
    Yes - the battery charger/maintainer hasn't arrived yet so don't know
    how well it works yet. From what I read the wrong type of charger can overcharge and/or charge too fast ==> don't want the chemicals inside
    the battery to boil.

    No, that could be a problem....

    ... How can I run amok? I don't even own one.
    Have you checked in the online manual?
    You mean it might be documented somewhere.....? <G>
    Entirely possible. Or at least a YouTube post.
    You can find just about anything on YouTube, or at least so I've
    heard... that's another thing I don't do... :)
    I've been on YouTube for something specific and then have been sucked
    into the suggested videos on more than one occasion; most interesting
    as I've selected them, some of the "well that was a waste" - just like anything. Have made links to it; an old show's episode to explain a phrase or thought (the 'Festivus' episode of _Seinfeld_, for example).

    I have friends here that spend a lot of time following the suggested
    videos... and apparently don't find it too much of a time-waster... ;)

    ... 43.3% of all Statistics are meaningless.

    That few....?? ;)

    ttyl neb

    ... IBM: It may be slow, but at least it's expensive.

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Tue Jan 14 07:50:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    I'm a little surprised that the guy was allowed to use the cart in
    that way... but it would indeed add a little reach... ;)
    Nope: I clobbered that one. The worker was using the scissor lift
    properly, just riding it from one point to another in the store (the
    controls are in the basket). The joke comment to the ladies was to
    use it as a shopping cart and reach the upper shelves.
    Ah, I misparsed that one... I think it might have been only
    half-kidding though for them as stockers to need something like that
    to reach the top shelves... ;)
    There are times it would be handy! LISB4, I had helped a Hy-Vee
    associate helping a customer because neither one could reach an item on the top shelf. The shelf wasn't all that high, just the item the
    customer wanted was towards the back (front ones being sold and shelf
    had not been faced).
    That can be an issue... there have been a few times that I've had
    to have Richard reach something way in the back on the top
    shelf... just couldn't reach it on my own.... :)

    Right: just have to get someone taller/with a longer reach. Or of
    course the mechanical version: standing on something. ...I have
    sometimes purchased an item I wanted which was back on the shelf a
    little ways and semi-automatically brought a few forward. Sort of a combination of while I'm here help someone find what I was looking for
    and my time in retail.


    to his first encounter with the PT the day after his hip surgery... ;)
    Logically it would seem to give some time for the bones to mend; OTOH
    if there's something in there holding one's pieces together.....
    With the hip, that is indeed the case... put together in such a way
    that things are held together... and walking on it apparently helps
    to solidify that connection, unlike some of the other surgeries....
    Right. I thought sure there would be some pain at the fracture site
    with the two pieces grinding/moving against each other -- sure was
    painful when I moved before the surgery! Probably whatever medication
    I was on helped, though I had asked and the reply was something so if
    there was a problem and I should feel pain I would. And so we're off
    down the hallway walking with a broken leg.
    After the surgery, it wasn't a broken leg anymore.... :)
    Well it wasn't broken apart, true.
    It had been surgically put back together again... :)

    Plus I can accurately state I may have a screw loose!


    You'd have the post-surgical pain from the incisions, but they
    stabilize the leg in the process, so you'd not have that pain
    Actually I don't recall any pain/tenderness from the incisions. Maybe just buried as part of the healing process and nothing noteworthy. Do recall being surprised at the number of staples 'holding me together'.
    You are lucky you could use the staples... my body reacts to
    them, and the sites fester.... I have to have the old-fashioned
    suture thread...

    That would be bad!! Know people have reactions to certain metals used in
    the stud for earrings. I don't think that information is in medical
    records. Suppose a quick allergy reaction test could be done.



    anymore.... With Daddy, they replaced the top part of the hip
    with an artificial ball for the socket, the shape of that was a
    ball at the top going down into a taper that fit into his
    existing bone, and replaced that top part of the bone... Indeed
    was better than before...
    That's good! Yes, have seen pictures of the leg's half of the
    replacement -- then imagine the surgery: hammer in garden stake, pop
    on the cap.
    Probably somewhat similar... <G> Actually, as I recall, the
    "stake" part and the "cap" part were already part of one piece...
    don't remember exactly how they got it to stay in the bone,
    though... may have used medical super glue or something... :)

    My wonderment is how they get the rod/stake inside: I think my rod is
    about a foot long -- maybe nine inches -- so figure 4-6" is in one
    portion and the other 4-6" sticking out and has to go into the other
    piece. Maybe some insertion room gained by angling but most I'm
    guessing is stretch/pull apart. (Anyone quesy yet?!)





    Yes, especially as I uploaded some vacation pictures to my cousin and
    that took -- not sure how long: started in the afternoon with a small
    test run -- slow but OK. Early evening half of the remainder --
    couple files failed; got those. Mid-evening the other half, ended up
    letting run overnight but only about half uploaded. Restarted the
    session in the morning and was able to upload the remainder without
    issues. Just slow, and that's due to me not having an all that fast
    DSL option (normally don't need).
    Some of it might have been due to it going overseas, too....
    I think they're located in the U.S, but who knows how the data got to
    them: data feed to (say) California busy? Run it through to Japan and
    back the other way!
    Isn't your cousin in Germany....? Or were you sending to another
    cousin...?
    My cousin in Austria, yes.
    Ok, so the data was going overseas to Austria.... would have started
    with your service here in the states, but somehow had to get overseas
    in the process... which, AIS, might have slowed the transmission down
    for whatever reason... :)
    He would have had that issue, not me: I had uploaded to a site called Box.com. I think located in the U.S. but not certain, plus could have storage all over the globe. My upload problem could have been caused
    by multiple issues: a glitch at Box, problems with DSL/onward
    connections, trying to upload too much at once with a slow line.....
    Ah... so you upload there, and then he goes to retrieve it from
    there... I see... Of course, it could be located just about
    anywhere...

    Correct, and potentially multiple places with cloud storage. The first
    year I had sent a thumbdrive. Sent in a regular #10 envelope, protected
    the thumbdrive in a cardboard tray. Fortunately I had kept small as
    found out at the Post Office the envelope needed to be kept semi-
    flexible to go through the sorting equipment, else a charge for hand-
    sorting. Next option would have been in a small box, and even though a
    small item (the thumbdrive) should not use a tiny box: have to get
    labels, postage, etc., on!



    ...I was looking for battery chargers/maintainers yesterday. Have an
    older one but manual says not for use with the type of battery I need
    it for (automotive yes, UPS no; and to complicate that some automotive
    batteries are the UPS type and vice versa. "AGM" if anyone wants that
    detail.). So looking around in Private Mode, essentially getting
    information and prices (most are of the OMG type!). Selected one,
    switch to regular mode and purchased.
    So you found someting suitable.... :) And I see the example... ;)
    Yes - the battery charger/maintainer hasn't arrived yet so don't know
    how well it works yet. From what I read the wrong type of charger can overcharge and/or charge too fast ==> don't want the chemicals inside
    the battery to boil.
    No, that could be a problem....

    Tends to make a mess!

    And the charger/maintainer arrived late yesterday. From the labelling
    can't tell it's supposed to be special (for the type of battery I'm
    using). Will set it up later today and keep an eye on it - or probably
    more accurate a hand to monitor the temperature and make sure doesn't
    boil.


    ... How can I run amok? I don't even own one.
    Have you checked in the online manual?
    You mean it might be documented somewhere.....? <G>
    Entirely possible. Or at least a YouTube post.
    You can find just about anything on YouTube, or at least so I've
    heard... that's another thing I don't do... :)
    I've been on YouTube for something specific and then have been sucked
    into the suggested videos on more than one occasion; most interesting
    as I've selected them, some of the "well that was a waste" - just like anything. Have made links to it; an old show's episode to explain a phrase or thought (the 'Festivus' episode of _Seinfeld_, for example).
    I have friends here that spend a lot of time following the
    suggested videos... and apparently don't find it too much of a time-waster... ;)

    "Wasting time" is in the mind of the opinioned person. (Bet as is that
    won't take off as an everyday saying!) To me playing video games 'all
    the time' is a waste of time and I'm quite sure people think me sitting
    in front of a monitor and pecking at the keyboard is a waste of time.


    ... 43.3% of all Statistics are meaningless.
    That few....?? ;)

    Well we could do another study if we had the funding!


    ... IBM: It may be slow, but at least it's expensive.

    OTOH they do have some rather detailed manuals!


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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Tue Jan 21 23:35:28 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 14-Jan-2020 07:50 <=-

    controls are in the basket). The joke comment to the ladies was to
    use it as a shopping cart and reach the upper shelves.
    Ah, I misparsed that one... I think it might have been only
    half-kidding though for them as stockers to need something like that
    to reach the top shelves... ;)
    There are times it would be handy! LISB4, I had helped a Hy-Vee
    associate helping a customer because neither one could reach an item on
    the top shelf. The shelf wasn't all that high, just the item the
    customer wanted was towards the back (front ones being sold and shelf
    had not been faced).
    That can be an issue... there have been a few times that I've had to
    have Richard reach something way in the back on the top shelf... just
    couldn't reach it on my own.... :)
    Right: just have to get someone taller/with a longer reach. Or of
    course the mechanical version: standing on something.

    Yup, that can work, too... Sometimes even Richard has to stand on the
    bottom shelf to get something way at the back of the top shelf... ;)

    ...I have sometimes purchased an item I wanted which was back on the
    shelf a little ways and semi-automatically brought a few forward.
    Sort of a combination of while I'm here help someone find what I was looking for and my time in retail.

    Yup, Richard does the same... and part of it is also the semi-automatic
    from when he used to do overnight stocking at Wegmans... He's often
    "facing" the shelves, even if we aren't getting something from that
    part... ;)

    With the hip, that is indeed the case... put together in such a way
    that things are held together... and walking on it apparently helps
    to solidify that connection, unlike some of the other surgeries....
    Right. I thought sure there would be some pain at the fracture site
    with the two pieces grinding/moving against each other -- sure was
    painful when I moved before the surgery! Probably whatever medication
    I was on helped, though I had asked and the reply was something so if
    there was a problem and I should feel pain I would. And so we're off
    down the hallway walking with a broken leg.
    After the surgery, it wasn't a broken leg anymore.... :)
    Well it wasn't broken apart, true.
    It had been surgically put back together again... :)
    Plus I can accurately state I may have a screw loose!

    Let's hope it isn't, though...! I could also, from the plate on my
    fibula that covers where the spiral break was... ;) But I'd just as
    soon they stay properly tight... <G>

    You'd have the post-surgical pain from the incisions, but they
    stabilize the leg in the process, so you'd not have that pain
    Actually I don't recall any pain/tenderness from the incisions. Maybe
    just buried as part of the healing process and nothing noteworthy. Do
    recall being surprised at the number of staples 'holding me together'.
    You are lucky you could use the staples... my body reacts to them, and
    the sites fester.... I have to have the old-fashioned suture thread...
    That would be bad!! Know people have reactions to certain metals used
    in the stud for earrings. I don't think that information is in medical records. Suppose a quick allergy reaction test could be done.

    I make sure I tell any surgeon/doctor before I have any sort of surgery
    that might require any sort of sutures/staples... It isn't a regular
    question for the records, but it can always be put in later....

    anymore.... With Daddy, they replaced the top part of the hip with
    an artificial ball for the socket, the shape of that was a ball at
    the top going down into a taper that fit into his existing bone, and
    replaced that top part of the bone.. Indeed was better than before..
    That's good! Yes, have seen pictures of the leg's half of the
    replacement -- then imagine the surgery: hammer in garden stake, pop
    on the cap.
    Probably somewhat similar... <G> Actually, as I recall, the "stake"
    part and the "cap" part were already part of one piece... don't
    remember exactly how they got it to stay in the bone, though... may
    have used medical super glue or something... :)
    My wonderment is how they get the rod/stake inside: I think my rod is about a foot long -- maybe nine inches -- so figure 4-6" is in one
    portion and the other 4-6" sticking out and has to go into the other piece. Maybe some insertion room gained by angling but most I'm
    guessing is stretch/pull apart. (Anyone queasy yet?!)

    They do make an incision at the top of the leg along the hip... probably
    gives enough "wiggle" room.... :)

    My cousin in Austria, yes.
    Ok, so the data was going overseas to Austria.... would have started
    with your service here in the states, but somehow had to get overseas
    in the process... which, AIS, might have slowed the transmission down
    for whatever reason... :)
    He would have had that issue, not me: I had uploaded to a site called
    Box.com. I think located in the U.S. but not certain, plus could have
    storage all over the globe. My upload problem could have been caused
    by multiple issues: a glitch at Box, problems with DSL/onward
    connections, trying to upload too much at once with a slow line.....
    Ah... so you upload there, and then he goes to retrieve it from
    there.. I see... Of course, it could be located just about anywhere..
    Correct, and potentially multiple places with cloud storage. The
    first year I had sent a thumbdrive. Sent in a regular #10 envelope, protected the thumbdrive in a cardboard tray. Fortunately I had kept small as found out at the Post Office the envelope needed to be kept
    semi- flexible to go through the sorting equipment, else a charge for hand- sorting. Next option would have been in a small box, and even though a small item (the thumbdrive) should not use a tiny box: have to get labels, postage, etc., on!

    Lots of factors... :)

    ...I was looking for battery chargers/maintainers yesterday. Have an
    older one but manual says not for use with the type of battery I need
    it for (automotive yes, UPS no; and to complicate that some automotive
    batteries are the UPS type and vice versa. "AGM" if anyone wants that
    detail.). So looking around in Private Mode, essentially getting
    information and prices (most are of the OMG type!). Selected one,
    switch to regular mode and purchased.
    So you found someting suitable.... :) And I see the example... ;)
    Yes - the battery charger/maintainer hasn't arrived yet so don't know
    how well it works yet. From what I read the wrong type of charger can
    overcharge and/or charge too fast ==> don't want the chemicals inside
    the battery to boil.
    No, that could be a problem....
    Tends to make a mess!

    True. :)

    And the charger/maintainer arrived late yesterday. From the labelling can't tell it's supposed to be special (for the type of battery I'm using). Will set it up later today and keep an eye on it - or
    probably more accurate a hand to monitor the temperature and make sure doesn't boil.

    Hopefully all worked out well and properly... :)

    Entirely possible. Or at least a YouTube post.
    You can find just about anything on YouTube, or at least so I've
    heard... that's another thing I don't do... :)
    I've been on YouTube for something specific and then have been sucked
    into the suggested videos on more than one occasion; most interesting
    as I've selected them, some of the "well that was a waste" - just like
    anything. Have made links to it; an old show's episode to explain a
    phrase or thought (the 'Festivus' episode of _Seinfeld_, for example).
    I have friends here that spend a lot of time following the suggested
    videos... and apparently don't find it too much of a time-waster... ;)
    "Wasting time" is in the mind of the opinioned person. (Bet as is
    that won't take off as an everyday saying!) To me playing video games 'all the time' is a waste of time and I'm quite sure people think me sitting in front of a monitor and pecking at the keyboard is a waste of time.

    I generally are a little more measured, and simply call such things time consumers... whether or not it is wasting time, as you say, is in the
    mind of the consumer.... ;) At least to some extent...... <G>

    ... IBM: It may be slow, but at least it's expensive.
    OTOH they do have some rather detailed manuals!
    ... IBM: [I]ncredibly [B]oring [M]anuals.

    Hmmm... that seems a bit biased.... <G>

    ttyl neb

    ... Procrastinator: A person with hardening of the oughteries

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Wed Jan 22 10:10:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    controls are in the basket). The joke comment to the ladies was to
    use it as a shopping cart and reach the upper shelves.
    Ah, I misparsed that one... I think it might have been only
    half-kidding though for them as stockers to need something like that
    to reach the top shelves... ;)
    There are times it would be handy! LISB4, I had helped a Hy-Vee
    associate helping a customer because neither one could reach an item on
    the top shelf. The shelf wasn't all that high, just the item the
    customer wanted was towards the back (front ones being sold and shelf
    had not been faced).
    That can be an issue... there have been a few times that I've had to
    have Richard reach something way in the back on the top shelf... just
    couldn't reach it on my own.... :)
    Right: just have to get someone taller/with a longer reach. Or of
    course the mechanical version: standing on something.
    Yup, that can work, too... Sometimes even Richard has to stand on
    the bottom shelf to get something way at the back of the top
    shelf... ;)

    I would do that at the store where I worked to get to back row of the
    top shelf of the Jean Wall in the Men's Department. We weren't supposed
    to: supposed to get a ladder. The ladder was supposed to be in the department, which of course it rarely was. (If each selling department
    was supposed to have at least one ladder where did they all go?)



    ...I have sometimes purchased an item I wanted which was back on the
    shelf a little ways and semi-automatically brought a few forward.
    Sort of a combination of while I'm here help someone find what I was looking for and my time in retail.
    Yup, Richard does the same... and part of it is also the
    semi-automatic from when he used to do overnight stocking at
    Wegmans... He's often "facing" the shelves, even if we aren't
    getting something from that part... ;)

    Old habits..... <g> While my Mother was shopping for clothes Dad and
    I would sometimes have nothing to do if the store didn't have a hardware
    or electronics department so somewhat out of boredom we'd space the
    clothing on the racks.


    With the hip, that is indeed the case... put together in such a way
    that things are held together... and walking on it apparently helps
    to solidify that connection, unlike some of the other surgeries....
    Right. I thought sure there would be some pain at the fracture site
    with the two pieces grinding/moving against each other -- sure was
    painful when I moved before the surgery! Probably whatever medication
    I was on helped, though I had asked and the reply was something so if
    there was a problem and I should feel pain I would. And so we're off
    down the hallway walking with a broken leg.
    After the surgery, it wasn't a broken leg anymore.... :)
    Well it wasn't broken apart, true.
    It had been surgically put back together again... :)
    Plus I can accurately state I may have a screw loose!
    Let's hope it isn't, though...! I could also, from the plate on
    my fibula that covers where the spiral break was... ;) But I'd
    just as soon they stay properly tight... <G>

    Hopefully they stay snug! On my X-rays I don't see where any lock
    washers were used and Loc-Tight probably is radiotransparent.


    You'd have the post-surgical pain from the incisions, but they
    stabilize the leg in the process, so you'd not have that pain
    Actually I don't recall any pain/tenderness from the incisions. Maybe
    just buried as part of the healing process and nothing noteworthy. Do
    recall being surprised at the number of staples 'holding me together'.
    You are lucky you could use the staples... my body reacts to them, and
    the sites fester.... I have to have the old-fashioned suture thread...
    That would be bad!! Know people have reactions to certain metals used
    in the stud for earrings. I don't think that information is in medical records. Suppose a quick allergy reaction test could be done.
    I make sure I tell any surgeon/doctor before I have any sort of
    surgery that might require any sort of sutures/staples... It
    isn't a regular question for the records, but it can always be
    put in later....

    Yes, I would too. I was thinking more the case where unconscious and
    unable to inform.


    anymore.... With Daddy, they replaced the top part of the hip with
    an artificial ball for the socket, the shape of that was a ball at
    the top going down into a taper that fit into his existing bone, and
    replaced that top part of the bone.. Indeed was better than before..
    That's good! Yes, have seen pictures of the leg's half of the
    replacement -- then imagine the surgery: hammer in garden stake, pop
    on the cap.
    Probably somewhat similar... <G> Actually, as I recall, the "stake"
    part and the "cap" part were already part of one piece... don't
    remember exactly how they got it to stay in the bone, though... may
    have used medical super glue or something... :)
    My wonderment is how they get the rod/stake inside: I think my rod is about a foot long -- maybe nine inches -- so figure 4-6" is in one
    portion and the other 4-6" sticking out and has to go into the other piece. Maybe some insertion room gained by angling but most I'm
    guessing is stretch/pull apart. (Anyone queasy yet?!)
    They do make an incision at the top of the leg along the hip...
    probably gives enough "wiggle" room.... :)

    You know Daryl is reading that and making sounds: <slow stretch>
    BOING!!!



    My cousin in Austria, yes.
    Ok, so the data was going overseas to Austria.... would have started
    with your service here in the states, but somehow had to get overseas
    in the process... which, AIS, might have slowed the transmission down
    for whatever reason... :)
    He would have had that issue, not me: I had uploaded to a site called
    Box.com. I think located in the U.S. but not certain, plus could have
    storage all over the globe. My upload problem could have been caused
    by multiple issues: a glitch at Box, problems with DSL/onward
    connections, trying to upload too much at once with a slow line.....
    Ah... so you upload there, and then he goes to retrieve it from
    there.. I see... Of course, it could be located just about anywhere..
    Correct, and potentially multiple places with cloud storage. The
    first year I had sent a thumbdrive. Sent in a regular #10 envelope, protected the thumbdrive in a cardboard tray. Fortunately I had kept small as found out at the Post Office the envelope needed to be kept
    semi- flexible to go through the sorting equipment, else a charge for hand- sorting. Next option would have been in a small box, and even though a small item (the thumbdrive) should not use a tiny box: have to get labels, postage, etc., on!
    Lots of factors... :)

    Yes, and most make sense. Too small a box and no room for labels +
    postage + documentation. Plus small is easier to get lost!



    ...I was looking for battery chargers/maintainers yesterday. Have an
    older one but manual says not for use with the type of battery I need
    it for (automotive yes, UPS no; and to complicate that some automotive
    batteries are the UPS type and vice versa. "AGM" if anyone wants that
    detail.). So looking around in Private Mode, essentially getting
    information and prices (most are of the OMG type!). Selected one,
    switch to regular mode and purchased.
    So you found someting suitable.... :) And I see the example... ;)
    Yes - the battery charger/maintainer hasn't arrived yet so don't know
    how well it works yet. From what I read the wrong type of charger can
    overcharge and/or charge too fast ==> don't want the chemicals inside
    the battery to boil.
    No, that could be a problem....
    Tends to make a mess!
    True. :)

    In the meantime I did experiment with a battery I wasn't overly
    concerned about. One of the UPSs around here takes two batteries; had a split-second power glitch which shut off the UPS. Batteries only a
    little over two years old and worked before. Replaced both batteries;
    later tested the original: one weak so probably the one that failed, the
    other probably OK but I won't trust it. This is the battery I used for
    my experiment.

    The charger/maintainer has 12v DC on it but outputs closer to 13.5 --
    13.2v is 10% over -- a usual amount for charging. The battery didn't
    overheat at all -- checked with one of those non-contact thermal 'guns'; actually was a hare cooler than another battery of the same type right
    next to it.

    Did test later: had disconnected the battery from the charger, let it
    sit a while, voltage had settled a bit, connected to the power port of
    the TV. Turned on the TV and ran for close to three hours. (This is
    the TV I plan to use during a power failure.)



    Entirely possible. Or at least a YouTube post.
    You can find just about anything on YouTube, or at least so I've
    heard... that's another thing I don't do... :)
    I've been on YouTube for something specific and then have been sucked
    into the suggested videos on more than one occasion; most interesting
    as I've selected them, some of the "well that was a waste" - just like
    anything. Have made links to it; an old show's episode to explain a
    phrase or thought (the 'Festivus' episode of _Seinfeld_, for example).
    I have friends here that spend a lot of time following the suggested
    videos... and apparently don't find it too much of a time-waster... ;)
    "Wasting time" is in the mind of the opinioned person. (Bet as is
    that won't take off as an everyday saying!) To me playing video games 'all the time' is a waste of time and I'm quite sure people think me sitting in front of a monitor and pecking at the keyboard is a waste of time.
    I generally are a little more measured, and simply call such
    things time consumers... whether or not it is wasting time, as
    you say, is in the mind of the consumer.... ;) At least to some extent...... <G>

    True. A waste of time to one person is of vital interest to another.



    ... IBM: It may be slow, but at least it's expensive.
    OTOH they do have some rather detailed manuals!
    ... IBM: [I]ncredibly [B]oring [M]anuals.
    Hmmm... that seems a bit biased.... <G>

    Soooo maybe "I Believe Most"?!



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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to BARRY MARTIN on Fri Jan 24 23:01:00 2020
    Barry,

    They do make an incision at the top of the leg along the hip... probably gives enough "wiggle" room.... :)

    You know Daryl is reading that and making sounds: <slow stretch>
    BOING!!!

    You're lucky we're not in the same shower together, or I'd take a wet
    towel, and pop you good. :P Or, I'd sneak a whoopee cushion in your
    chair. <G>

    Daryl


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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Sat Jan 25 07:52:00 2020

    Hi Daryl!

    They do make an incision at the top of the leg along the hip... probably gives enough "wiggle" room.... :)
    You know Daryl is reading that and making sounds: <slow stretch>
    BOING!!!
    You're lucky we're not in the same shower together, or I'd take
    a wet towel, and pop you good. :P Or, I'd sneak a whoopee cushion
    in your chair. <G>

    Trying to come up with a suitable retort but anything I type I'd have to moderate myself!



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    @Q.COM



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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to BARRY MARTIN on Sun Jan 26 22:37:00 2020
    Barry,

    You're lucky we're not in the same shower together, or I'd take
    a wet towel, and pop you good. :P Or, I'd sneak a whoopee cushion
    in your chair. <G>

    Trying to come up with a suitable retort but anything I type I'd have to BM>moderate myself!

    And, I might get banned.

    ... Whoopie-cushion floppies: "Alright! Who booted?!?"

    The hard drive says "Your OS Stinks". :P

    Daryl


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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Mon Jan 27 10:03:00 2020

    Hi Daryl!

    You're lucky we're not in the same shower together, or I'd take
    a wet towel, and pop you good. :P Or, I'd sneak a whoopee cushion
    in your chair. <G>
    Trying to come up with a suitable retort but anything I type I'd have to
    moderate myself!
    And, I might get banned.

    Or at least shunned!


    ... Whoopie-cushion floppies: "Alright! Who booted?!?"
    The hard drive says "Your OS Stinks". :P

    Open Windows and let the smell out!



    Barry_Martin_3@
    @Q.COM



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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Wed Jan 29 22:19:44 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 22-Jan-2020 10:10 <=-

    That can be an issue... there have been a few times that I've had to
    have Richard reach something way in the back on the top shelf... just
    couldn't reach it on my own.... :)
    Right: just have to get someone taller/with a longer reach. Or of
    course the mechanical version: standing on something.
    Yup, that can work, too... Sometimes even Richard has to stand on the
    bottom shelf to get something way at the back of the top shelf... ;)
    I would do that at the store where I worked to get to back row of the
    top shelf of the Jean Wall in the Men's Department. We weren't
    supposed to: supposed to get a ladder. The ladder was supposed to be
    in the department, which of course it rarely was. (If each selling department was supposed to have at least one ladder where did they all go?)

    Like the IV poles in the hospital, they are a gregarious lot, and
    congregate at the end of the hall, or maybe in the case of the ladders,
    at some equally unuseful area of the store.... ;)

    ...I have sometimes purchased an item I wanted which was back on the
    shelf a little ways and semi-automatically brought a few forward.
    Sort of a combination of while I'm here help someone find what I was
    looking for and my time in retail.
    Yup, Richard does the same... and part of it is also the
    semi-automatic from when he used to do overnight stocking at
    Wegmans... He's often "facing" the shelves, even if we aren't getting
    something from that part... ;)
    Old habits..... <g> While my Mother was shopping for clothes Dad and
    I would sometimes have nothing to do if the store didn't have a
    hardware or electronics department so somewhat out of boredom we'd
    space the clothing on the racks.

    I could see Richard doing something of the sort... although I'm rarely
    shopping for clothes, and when I do, it's pretty efficient, not giving
    him time to get into that sort of thing... <G>

    And so we're off down the hallway walking with a broken leg.
    After the surgery, it wasn't a broken leg anymore.... :)
    Well it wasn't broken apart, true.
    It had been surgically put back together again... :)
    Plus I can accurately state I may have a screw loose!
    Let's hope it isn't, though...! I could also, from the plate on my
    fibula that covers where the spiral break was... ;) But I'd just as
    soon they stay properly tight... <G>
    Hopefully they stay snug! On my X-rays I don't see where any lock
    washers were used and Loc-Tight probably is radiotransparent.

    Indeed... and probably, whatever sort of stuff they do use... :)

    You are lucky you could use the staples... my body reacts to them, and
    the sites fester.... I have to have the old-fashioned suture thread...
    That would be bad!! Know people have reactions to certain metals used
    in the stud for earrings. I don't think that information is in medical
    records. Suppose a quick allergy reaction test could be done.
    I make sure I tell any surgeon/doctor before I have any sort of surgery
    that might require any sort of sutures/staples... It isn't a regular
    question for the records, but it can always be put in later....
    Yes, I would too. I was thinking more the case where unconscious and unable to inform.

    In that case, the records might not be available, either.... Dunno if
    they do test for allergy on that sort of thing... I suppose worst case scenario, they do the life-saving surgery, and when the staples fester,
    they have to take them out and suture instead.... ;0

    My wonderment is how they get the rod/stake inside: I think my rod is
    about a foot long -- maybe nine inches -- so figure 4-6" is in one
    portion and the other 4-6" sticking out and has to go into the other
    piece. Maybe some insertion room gained by angling but most I'm
    guessing is stretch/pull apart. (Anyone queasy yet?!)
    They do make an incision at the top of the leg along the hip...
    probably gives enough "wiggle" room.... :)
    You know Daryl is reading that and making sounds: <slow stretch>
    BOING!!!

    At least we can't hear the sound effects... ;)

    Ah... so you upload there, and then he goes to retrieve it from
    there.. I see... Of course, it could be located just about anywhere..
    Correct, and potentially multiple places with cloud storage. The
    first year I had sent a thumbdrive. Sent in a regular #10 envelope,
    protected the thumbdrive in a cardboard tray. Fortunately I had kept
    small as found out at the Post Office the envelope needed to be kept
    semi-flexible to go through the sorting equipment, else a charge for
    hand-sorting. Next option would have been in a small box, and even
    though a small item (the thumbdrive) should not use a tiny box: have to
    get labels, postage, etc., on!
    Lots of factors... :)
    Yes, and most make sense. Too small a box and no room for labels + postage + documentation. Plus small is easier to get lost!

    Yup.

    Yes - the battery charger/maintainer hasn't arrived yet so don't know
    how well it works yet. From what I read the wrong type of charger can
    overcharge and/or charge too fast ==> don't want the chemicals inside
    the battery to boil.
    No, that could be a problem....
    Tends to make a mess!
    True. :)
    In the meantime I did experiment with a battery I wasn't overly
    concerned about. One of the UPSs around here takes two batteries; had
    a split-second power glitch which shut off the UPS. Batteries only a little over two years old and worked before. Replaced both batteries; later tested the original: one weak so probably the one that failed,
    the other probably OK but I won't trust it. This is the battery I used for my experiment.
    The charger/maintainer has 12v DC on it but outputs closer to 13.5 -- 13.2v is 10% over -- a usual amount for charging. The battery didn't overheat at all -- checked with one of those non-contact thermal
    'guns'; actually was a hare cooler than another battery of the same
    type right next to it.
    Did test later: had disconnected the battery from the charger, let it
    sit a while, voltage had settled a bit, connected to the power port of
    the TV. Turned on the TV and ran for close to three hours. (This is
    the TV I plan to use during a power failure.)

    Sounds like the experiment was profitable and gave useful info.... :)

    I have friends here that spend a lot of time following the suggested
    videos... and apparently don't find it too much of a time-waster... ;)
    "Wasting time" is in the mind of the opinioned person. (Bet as is
    that won't take off as an everyday saying!) To me playing video games
    'all the time' is a waste of time and I'm quite sure people think me
    sitting in front of a monitor and pecking at the keyboard is a waste of
    time.
    I generally are a little more measured, and simply call such things
    time consumers... whether or not it is wasting time, as you say, is
    in the mind of the consumer... ;) At least to some extent...... <G>
    True. A waste of time to one person is of vital interest to another.

    As long as there isn't something pressing that should be being done
    instead, anyway... ;)

    ... IBM: It may be slow, but at least it's expensive.
    OTOH they do have some rather detailed manuals!
    ... IBM: [I]ncredibly [B]oring [M]anuals.
    Hmmm... that seems a bit biased.... <G>
    Soooo maybe "I Believe Most"?!

    I didn't say I didn't agree with the bias, you'll note... <G>

    ttyl neb

    ... Want to own a small business? Buy a big one and wait...

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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to BARRY MARTIN on Wed Jan 29 08:45:00 2020
    Barry,

    ... Whoopie-cushion floppies: "Alright! Who booted?!?"
    The hard drive says "Your OS Stinks". :P

    Open Windows and let the smell out!

    Or have sound effects of flatulence when an error occurs...and a
    flushing toilet when you empty the recycle bin...not to mention that the recycle bin icon is a toilet.

    Daryl


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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Thu Jan 30 15:38:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    That can be an issue... there have been a few times that I've had to
    have Richard reach something way in the back on the top shelf... just
    couldn't reach it on my own.... :)
    Right: just have to get someone taller/with a longer reach. Or of
    course the mechanical version: standing on something.
    Yup, that can work, too... Sometimes even Richard has to stand on the
    bottom shelf to get something way at the back of the top shelf... ;)
    I would do that at the store where I worked to get to back row of the
    top shelf of the Jean Wall in the Men's Department. We weren't
    supposed to: supposed to get a ladder. The ladder was supposed to be
    in the department, which of course it rarely was. (If each selling department was supposed to have at least one ladder where did they all go?)
    Like the IV poles in the hospital, they are a gregarious lot, and congregate at the end of the hall, or maybe in the case of the
    ladders, at some equally unuseful area of the store.... ;)

    <chuckle> Yes, sometimes we did find two or three or four in a
    stockroom.


    ...I have sometimes purchased an item I wanted which was back on the
    shelf a little ways and semi-automatically brought a few forward.
    Sort of a combination of while I'm here help someone find what I was
    looking for and my time in retail.
    Yup, Richard does the same... and part of it is also the
    semi-automatic from when he used to do overnight stocking at
    Wegmans... He's often "facing" the shelves, even if we aren't getting
    something from that part... ;)
    Old habits..... <g> While my Mother was shopping for clothes Dad and
    I would sometimes have nothing to do if the store didn't have a
    hardware or electronics department so somewhat out of boredom we'd
    space the clothing on the racks.
    I could see Richard doing something of the sort... although I'm
    rarely shopping for clothes, and when I do, it's pretty
    efficient, not giving him time to get into that sort of thing... <G>

    AFAIK my Mother didn't ask to go shopping all that much: at the time she
    didn't drive and so had to be taken by Dad and she respected his time.
    OTOH Dad realized my Mother needed to go shopping, it wasn't a demand
    and could be done on his time schedule.



    And so we're off down the hallway walking with a broken leg.
    After the surgery, it wasn't a broken leg anymore.... :)
    Well it wasn't broken apart, true.
    It had been surgically put back together again... :)
    Plus I can accurately state I may have a screw loose!
    Let's hope it isn't, though...! I could also, from the plate on my
    fibula that covers where the spiral break was... ;) But I'd just as
    soon they stay properly tight... <G>
    Hopefully they stay snug! On my X-rays I don't see where any lock
    washers were used and Loc-Tight probably is radiotransparent.
    Indeed... and probably, whatever sort of stuff they do use... :)

    ...Comes from the hardware store??!! <gg> Probably very similar
    except stainless steel vs. zinc-plated. Rust does not count towards
    iron intake!


    You are lucky you could use the staples... my body reacts to them, and
    the sites fester.... I have to have the old-fashioned suture thread...
    That would be bad!! Know people have reactions to certain metals used
    in the stud for earrings. I don't think that information is in medical
    records. Suppose a quick allergy reaction test could be done.
    I make sure I tell any surgeon/doctor before I have any sort of surgery
    that might require any sort of sutures/staples... It isn't a regular
    question for the records, but it can always be put in later....
    Yes, I would too. I was thinking more the case where unconscious and unable to inform.
    In that case, the records might not be available, either....
    Dunno if they do test for allergy on that sort of thing... I
    suppose worst case scenario, they do the life-saving surgery, and
    when the staples fester, they have to take them out and suture
    instead.... ;0

    That would sound logical. And possible in the great majority of
    emergency operations they know on whom they are operating: drivers licenses/other identifications. And the metal staples generally don't
    react, so minimizes the possibilty on the remaining small percentage.


    My wonderment is how they get the rod/stake inside: I think my rod is
    about a foot long -- maybe nine inches -- so figure 4-6" is in one
    portion and the other 4-6" sticking out and has to go into the other
    piece. Maybe some insertion room gained by angling but most I'm
    guessing is stretch/pull apart. (Anyone queasy yet?!)
    They do make an incision at the top of the leg along the hip...
    probably gives enough "wiggle" room.... :)
    You know Daryl is reading that and making sounds: <slow stretch>
    BOING!!!
    At least we can't hear the sound effects... ;)

    I'm not so sure I'd want to see the real-life surgery! OTOH I'd
    probably find it interesting, albeit with a bit of squirm and squeam,
    since I had it performed on me.



    Yes - the battery charger/maintainer hasn't arrived yet so don't know
    how well it works yet. From what I read the wrong type of charger can
    overcharge and/or charge too fast ==> don't want the chemicals inside
    the battery to boil.
    No, that could be a problem....
    Tends to make a mess!
    True. :)
    In the meantime I did experiment with a battery I wasn't overly
    concerned about. One of the UPSs around here takes two batteries; had
    a split-second power glitch which shut off the UPS. Batteries only a little over two years old and worked before. Replaced both batteries; later tested the original: one weak so probably the one that failed,
    the other probably OK but I won't trust it. This is the battery I used for my experiment.
    The charger/maintainer has 12v DC on it but outputs closer to 13.5 -- 13.2v is 10% over -- a usual amount for charging. The battery didn't overheat at all -- checked with one of those non-contact thermal
    'guns'; actually was a hare cooler than another battery of the same
    type right next to it.
    Did test later: had disconnected the battery from the charger, let it
    sit a while, voltage had settled a bit, connected to the power port of
    the TV. Turned on the TV and ran for close to three hours. (This is
    the TV I plan to use during a power failure.)
    Sounds like the experiment was profitable and gave useful
    info.... :)

    Yes, and haven't needed to use the TV on battery as no power outages.
    Have recharged the possibly damaged battery (the one that was paired
    with the battery inthe UPS that had shut down some time back) -- but
    haven't done a 'maintaining' test: not sure I will as the voltage is
    higher than I think it should be (higher than the 10% recommended) but
    maybe the voltmeter I'm using for that project is off (so need to
    compare to a different meter), and do I want another plug-in device
    slurping that phantom electricity? On-and-off cleaning/straightening/ disposing project at my Electronics Workbench Area in the basement so
    don't want to distract me from that!


    I have friends here that spend a lot of time following the suggested
    videos... and apparently don't find it too much of a time-waster... ;)
    "Wasting time" is in the mind of the opinioned person. (Bet as is
    that won't take off as an everyday saying!) To me playing video games
    'all the time' is a waste of time and I'm quite sure people think me
    sitting in front of a monitor and pecking at the keyboard is a waste of
    time.
    I generally are a little more measured, and simply call such things
    time consumers... whether or not it is wasting time, as you say, is
    in the mind of the consumer... ;) At least to some extent...... <G>
    True. A waste of time to one person is of vital interest to another.
    As long as there isn't something pressing that should be being
    done instead, anyway... ;)

    Though a break isn't a bad idea. :) The "take the time to smell the
    roses", though one does need to give sufficient time to weeding around
    those roses!



    ... IBM: It may be slow, but at least it's expensive.
    OTOH they do have some rather detailed manuals!
    ... IBM: [I]ncredibly [B]oring [M]anuals.
    Hmmm... that seems a bit biased.... <G>
    Soooo maybe "I Believe Most"?!
    I didn't say I didn't agree with the bias, you'll note... <G>

    Ah! Just a detail!


    Barry_Martin_3@
    @Q.COM



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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Thu Jan 30 15:38:00 2020

    Hi Daryl!

    ... Whoopie-cushion floppies: "Alright! Who booted?!?"
    The hard drive says "Your OS Stinks". :P
    Open Windows and let the smell out!
    Or have sound effects of flatulence when an error occurs...and
    a flushing toilet when you empty the recycle bin...not to mention
    that the recycle bin icon is a toilet.

    Was that on the Bob version of Windows?! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Bob

    Back in the old days when I was selling computers at the store one of
    the pre-installed sound effects was "Drip": 'bwwoop!' For some reason I
    always wanted to but never dared to transmit a few of those over the
    store's P.A. system after we closed for the evening. (Probably a 'bad influence' from the guard sergeant who occasionally did parrot sounds
    over the site's P.A. late at night!)



    Barry_Martin_3@
    @Q.COM



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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Wed Feb 5 00:59:00 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 30-Jan-2020 15:38 <=-

    Yup, that can work, too... Sometimes even Richard has to stand on the
    bottom shelf to get something way at the back of the top shelf... ;)
    I would do that at the store where I worked to get to back row of the
    top shelf of the Jean Wall in the Men's Department. We weren't
    supposed to: supposed to get a ladder. The ladder was supposed to be
    in the department, which of course it rarely was. (If each selling
    department was supposed to have at least one ladder where did they all
    go?)
    Like the IV poles in the hospital, they are a gregarious lot, and
    congregate at the end of the hall, or maybe in the case of the
    ladders, at some equally unuseful area of the store.... ;)
    <chuckle> Yes, sometimes we did find two or three or four in a
    stockroom.

    Where, of course, only one (or maybe possibly two) would have been
    needed at one time....

    ...I have sometimes purchased an item I wanted which was back on the
    shelf a little ways and semi-automatically brought a few forward.
    Sort of a combination of while I'm here help someone find what I was
    looking for and my time in retail.
    Yup, Richard does the same... and part of it is also the
    semi-automatic from when he used to do overnight stocking at
    Wegmans... He's often "facing" the shelves, even if we aren't getting
    something from that part... ;)
    Old habits..... <g> While my Mother was shopping for clothes Dad and
    I would sometimes have nothing to do if the store didn't have a
    hardware or electronics department so somewhat out of boredom we'd
    space the clothing on the racks.
    I could see Richard doing something of the sort... although I'm rarely shopping for clothes, and when I do, it's pretty efficient, not giving
    him time to get into that sort of thing... <G>
    AFAIK my Mother didn't ask to go shopping all that much: at the time
    she didn't drive and so had to be taken by Dad and she respected his
    time. OTOH Dad realized my Mother needed to go shopping, it wasn't a demand and could be done on his time schedule.

    That worked, then... :)

    Well it wasn't broken apart, true.
    It had been surgically put back together again... :)
    Plus I can accurately state I may have a screw loose!
    Let's hope it isn't, though...! I could also, from the plate on my
    fibula that covers where the spiral break was... ;) But I'd just as
    soon they stay properly tight... <G>
    Hopefully they stay snug! On my X-rays I don't see where any lock
    washers were used and Loc-Tight probably is radiotransparent.
    Indeed... and probably, whatever sort of stuff they do use... :)
    ...Comes from the hardware store??!! <gg> Probably very similar
    except stainless steel vs. zinc-plated. Rust does not count towards
    iron intake!

    Nope... doesn't go where it's needed that way... ;)

    You are lucky you could use the staples... my body reacts to them, and
    the sites fester.... I have to have the old-fashioned suture thread...
    That would be bad!! Know people have reactions to certain metals used
    in the stud for earrings. I don't think that information is in medical
    records. Suppose a quick allergy reaction test could be done.
    I make sure I tell any surgeon/doctor before I have any sort of surgery
    that might require any sort of sutures/staples... It isn't a regular
    question for the records, but it can always be put in later....
    Yes, I would too. I was thinking more the case where unconscious and
    unable to inform.
    In that case, the records might not be available, either.... Dunno
    if they do test for allergy on that sort of thing... I suppose worst
    case scenario, they do the life-saving surgery, and when the staples
    fester, they have to take them out and suture instead.... ;0
    That would sound logical. And possible in the great majority of
    emergency operations they know on whom they are operating: drivers licenses/other identifications. And the metal staples generally don't react, so minimizes the possibilty on the remaining small percentage.

    Or, on emergencies, they might just play it safe and not use staples...
    hard to say... ;)

    My wonderment is how they get the rod/stake inside: I think my rod is
    about a foot long -- maybe nine inches -- so figure 4-6" is in one
    portion and the other 4-6" sticking out and has to go into the other
    piece. Maybe some insertion room gained by angling but most I'm
    guessing is stretch/pull apart. (Anyone queasy yet?!)
    They do make an incision at the top of the leg along the hip...
    probably gives enough "wiggle" room.... :)
    I'm not so sure I'd want to see the real-life surgery! OTOH I'd
    probably find it interesting, albeit with a bit of squirm and squeam, since I had it performed on me.

    I'm sure I'd find it interesting... Probably I should have gone into
    medicine myself, but it's too late now... ;)

    Did test later: had disconnected the battery from the charger, let it
    sit a while, voltage had settled a bit, connected to the power port of
    the TV. Turned on the TV and ran for close to three hours. (This is
    the TV I plan to use during a power failure.)
    Sounds like the experiment was profitable and gave useful info.... :)
    Yes, and haven't needed to use the TV on battery as no power outages.

    Just as well... :)

    Have recharged the possibly damaged battery (the one that was paired
    with the battery inthe UPS that had shut down some time back) -- but haven't done a 'maintaining' test: not sure I will as the voltage is higher than I think it should be (higher than the 10% recommended) but maybe the voltmeter I'm using for that project is off (so need to
    compare to a different meter), and do I want another plug-in device slurping that phantom electricity? On-and-off cleaning/straightening/ disposing project at my Electronics Workbench Area in the basement so don't want to distract me from that!

    Reasons enough to set it aside, at least for now... :)

    "Wasting time" is in the mind of the opinioned person. (Bet as is
    that won't take off as an everyday saying!) To me playing video games
    'all the time' is a waste of time and I'm quite sure people think me
    sitting in front of a monitor and pecking at the keyboard is a waste of
    time.
    I generally are a little more measured, and simply call such things
    time consumers... whether or not it is wasting time, as you say, is
    in the mind of the consumer... ;) At least to some extent...... <G>
    True. A waste of time to one person is of vital interest to another.
    As long as there isn't something pressing that should be being done
    instead, anyway... ;)
    Though a break isn't a bad idea. :) The "take the time to smell the roses", though one does need to give sufficient time to weeding around those roses!

    Keeping things in balance... :)

    ... IBM: It may be slow, but at least it's expensive.
    OTOH they do have some rather detailed manuals!
    ... IBM: [I]ncredibly [B]oring [M]anuals.
    Hmmm... that seems a bit biased.... <G>
    Soooo maybe "I Believe Most"?!
    I didn't say I didn't agree with the bias, you'll note... <G>
    Ah! Just a detail!

    ;)

    ... Too Stressed: ask drive-thru attendant if you can get your order
    to go.

    Or at the very least, too distracted.... ;)

    ttyl neb

    ... If we are here to help others, what are the others here for?

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Wed Feb 5 08:39:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    Yup, that can work, too... Sometimes even Richard has to stand on the
    bottom shelf to get something way at the back of the top shelf... ;)
    I would do that at the store where I worked to get to back row of the
    top shelf of the Jean Wall in the Men's Department. We weren't
    supposed to: supposed to get a ladder. The ladder was supposed to be
    in the department, which of course it rarely was. (If each selling
    department was supposed to have at least one ladder where did they all
    go?)
    Like the IV poles in the hospital, they are a gregarious lot, and
    congregate at the end of the hall, or maybe in the case of the
    ladders, at some equally unuseful area of the store.... ;)
    <chuckle> Yes, sometimes we did find two or three or four in a
    stockroom.
    Where, of course, only one (or maybe possibly two) would have
    been needed at one time....

    Right. ...So maybe the on-the-surface inanimate ladders did have a
    little life in them: they liked to congregate to socialize! <g>


    I could see Richard doing something of the sort... although I'm rarely shopping for clothes, and when I do, it's pretty efficient, not giving
    him time to get into that sort of thing... <G>
    AFAIK my Mother didn't ask to go shopping all that much: at the time
    she didn't drive and so had to be taken by Dad and she respected his
    time. OTOH Dad realized my Mother needed to go shopping, it wasn't a demand and could be done on his time schedule.
    That worked, then... :)

    Seemed to be part of a sign of a good marriage: respect between the two.
    For time, likes/dislikes, etc.



    You are lucky you could use the staples... my body reacts to them, and
    the sites fester.... I have to have the old-fashioned suture thread...
    That would be bad!! Know people have reactions to certain metals used
    in the stud for earrings. I don't think that information is in medical
    records. Suppose a quick allergy reaction test could be done.
    I make sure I tell any surgeon/doctor before I have any sort of surgery
    that might require any sort of sutures/staples... It isn't a regular
    question for the records, but it can always be put in later....
    Yes, I would too. I was thinking more the case where unconscious and
    unable to inform.
    In that case, the records might not be available, either.... Dunno
    if they do test for allergy on that sort of thing... I suppose worst
    case scenario, they do the life-saving surgery, and when the staples
    fester, they have to take them out and suture instead.... ;0
    That would sound logical. And possible in the great majority of
    emergency operations they know on whom they are operating: drivers licenses/other identifications. And the metal staples generally don't react, so minimizes the possibilty on the remaining small percentage.
    Or, on emergencies, they might just play it safe and not use
    staples... hard to say... ;)

    That's a possibility too. Hope neither one of us have to find out!


    My wonderment is how they get the rod/stake inside: I think my rod is
    about a foot long -- maybe nine inches -- so figure 4-6" is in one
    portion and the other 4-6" sticking out and has to go into the other
    piece. Maybe some insertion room gained by angling but most I'm
    guessing is stretch/pull apart. (Anyone queasy yet?!)
    They do make an incision at the top of the leg along the hip...
    probably gives enough "wiggle" room.... :)
    I'm not so sure I'd want to see the real-life surgery! OTOH I'd
    probably find it interesting, albeit with a bit of squirm and squeam, since I had it performed on me.
    I'm sure I'd find it interesting... Probably I should have gone
    into medicine myself, but it's too late now... ;)

    If only you watched television: there's a show called "Carol's Second
    Act" about a teacher -- and I don't recall why she stopped teaching --
    who went to med school and is currently a resident in a teaching
    hospital.



    Did test later: had disconnected the battery from the charger, let it
    sit a while, voltage had settled a bit, connected to the power port of
    the TV. Turned on the TV and ran for close to three hours. (This is
    the TV I plan to use during a power failure.)
    Sounds like the experiment was profitable and gave useful info.... :)
    Yes, and haven't needed to use the TV on battery as no power outages.
    Just as well... :)

    True! And though I didn't read ahead when starting this reply I decided
    I should recharge the battery. No bad weather predicted (maybe an inch overnight). Do need to compare the output voltage of the charger with
    the voltage from a UPS -- as I said before the charger seems to be
    outputting way too high a voltage. Not all that hard to do but delaying
    as want to continue cleaning up in the basement and so up here. Plus
    Autumn is coming over this afternoon.....


    Have recharged the possibly damaged battery (the one that was paired
    with the battery inthe UPS that had shut down some time back) -- but haven't done a 'maintaining' test: not sure I will as the voltage is higher than I think it should be (higher than the 10% recommended) but maybe the voltmeter I'm using for that project is off (so need to
    compare to a different meter), and do I want another plug-in device slurping that phantom electricity? On-and-off cleaning/straightening/ disposing project at my Electronics Workbench Area in the basement so don't want to distract me from that!
    Reasons enough to set it aside, at least for now... :)

    Especially as I am _finally_ getting to it!!



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    Or at the very least, too distracted.... ;)

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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Sun Feb 9 01:58:34 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 05-Feb-2020 08:39 <=-

    We weren't supposed to: supposed to get a ladder. The ladder was
    supposed to be in the department, which of course it rarely was.
    (If each selling department was supposed to have at least one ladder
    where did they all go?)
    Like the IV poles in the hospital, they are a gregarious lot, and
    congregate at the end of the hall, or maybe in the case of the
    ladders, at some equally unuseful area of the store.... ;)
    <chuckle> Yes, sometimes we did find two or three or four in a
    stockroom.
    Where, of course, only one (or maybe possibly two) would have been
    needed at one time....
    Right. ...So maybe the on-the-surface inanimate ladders did have a
    little life in them: they liked to congregate to socialize! <g>

    One does wonder at times... with where they all tend to end up...
    couldn't possibly be that humans had moved them all there and were too
    lazy to return to the proper place(s).... ;)

    I could see Richard doing something of the sort... although I'm rarely
    shopping for clothes, and when I do, it's pretty efficient, not giving
    him time to get into that sort of thing... <G>
    AFAIK my Mother didn't ask to go shopping all that much: at the time
    she didn't drive and so had to be taken by Dad and she respected his
    time. OTOH Dad realized my Mother needed to go shopping, it wasn't a
    demand and could be done on his time schedule.
    That worked, then... :)
    Seemed to be part of a sign of a good marriage: respect between the
    two. For time, likes/dislikes, etc.

    Indeed is a good sign of a good marriage... :)

    I make sure I tell any surgeon/doctor before I have any sort of surgery
    that might require any sort of sutures/staples... It isn't a regular
    question for the records, but it can always be put in later....
    Yes, I would too. I was thinking more the case where unconscious and
    unable to inform.
    In that case, the records might not be available, either.... Dunno
    if they do test for allergy on that sort of thing... I suppose worst
    case scenario, they do the life-saving surgery, and when the staples
    fester, they have to take them out and suture instead.... ;0
    That would sound logical. And possible in the great majority of
    emergency operations they know on whom they are operating: drivers
    licenses/other identifications. And the metal staples generally don't
    react, so minimizes the possibilty on the remaining small percentage.
    Or, on emergencies, they might just play it safe and not use staples...
    hard to say... ;)
    That's a possibility too. Hope neither one of us have to find out!

    True... I think I've had enough emergency situations already... and
    fortunately remained conscious when they happened... :)

    I'm not so sure I'd want to see the real-life surgery! OTOH I'd
    probably find it interesting, albeit with a bit of squirm and squeam,
    since I had it performed on me.
    I'm sure I'd find it interesting... Probably I should have gone into
    medicine myself, but it's too late now... ;)
    If only you watched television: there's a show called "Carol's Second
    Act" about a teacher -- and I don't recall why she stopped teaching --
    who went to med school and is currently a resident in a teaching
    hospital.

    I think I've heard about that show.... I'd bet that she wasn't over 65
    yet, though.... And still was in pretty good physical health... :)

    Did test later: had disconnected the battery from the charger, let it
    sit a while, voltage had settled a bit, connected to the power port of
    the TV. Turned on the TV and ran for close to three hours. (This is
    the TV I plan to use during a power failure.)
    Sounds like the experiment was profitable and gave useful info.... :)
    Yes, and haven't needed to use the TV on battery as no power outages.
    Just as well... :)
    True! And though I didn't read ahead when starting this reply I
    decided I should recharge the battery. No bad weather predicted (maybe
    an inch overnight). Do need to compare the output voltage of the
    charger with the voltage from a UPS -- as I said before the charger
    seems to be outputting way too high a voltage. Not all that hard to do but delaying as want to continue cleaning up in the basement and so up here. Plus Autumn is coming over this afternoon.....

    Valid But Firsts... ;)

    Have recharged the possibly damaged battery (the one that was paired
    with the battery inthe UPS that had shut down some time back) -- but
    haven't done a 'maintaining' test: not sure I will as the voltage is
    higher than I think it should be (higher than the 10% recommended) but
    maybe the voltmeter I'm using for that project is off (so need to
    compare to a different meter), and do I want another plug-in device
    slurping that phantom electricity? On-and-off cleaning/straightening/
    disposing project at my Electronics Workbench Area in the basement so
    don't want to distract me from that!
    Reasons enough to set it aside, at least for now... :)
    Especially as I am _finally_ getting to it!!

    The Electronics Workbench Area project, you mean....? :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Sun Feb 9 09:22:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    We weren't supposed to: supposed to get a ladder. The ladder was
    supposed to be in the department, which of course it rarely was.
    (If each selling department was supposed to have at least one ladder
    where did they all go?)
    Like the IV poles in the hospital, they are a gregarious lot, and
    congregate at the end of the hall, or maybe in the case of the
    ladders, at some equally unuseful area of the store.... ;)
    <chuckle> Yes, sometimes we did find two or three or four in a
    stockroom.
    Where, of course, only one (or maybe possibly two) would have been
    needed at one time....
    Right. ...So maybe the on-the-surface inanimate ladders did have a
    little life in them: they liked to congregate to socialize! <g>
    One does wonder at times... with where they all tend to end up...
    couldn't possibly be that humans had moved them all there and
    were too lazy to return to the proper place(s).... ;)

    We liked the "the come alive at night" option as there were times when
    some strange things happened overnight. Nothing bad, but sometimes
    mechandise and other items weren't in the same place ==> I thought sure
    I put this away last night, or a stack on the left instead of the right
    type of thing.


    I could see Richard doing something of the sort... although I'm rarely
    shopping for clothes, and when I do, it's pretty efficient, not giving
    him time to get into that sort of thing... <G>
    AFAIK my Mother didn't ask to go shopping all that much: at the time
    she didn't drive and so had to be taken by Dad and she respected his
    time. OTOH Dad realized my Mother needed to go shopping, it wasn't a
    demand and could be done on his time schedule.
    That worked, then... :)
    Seemed to be part of a sign of a good marriage: respect between the
    two. For time, likes/dislikes, etc.
    Indeed is a good sign of a good marriage... :)

    Yes: nothing is going to be perfect. One isn't the nurse/maid/butler/ chauffeur/etc. to the other, though there are times when one is injured
    and needs to be nursed, or come home from work and a cup of coffee is
    brought.


    I make sure I tell any surgeon/doctor before I have any sort of
    surgery NB>>>> that might require any sort of sutures/staples...
    It isn't a regular NB>>>> question for the records, but it can
    always be put in later....
    Yes, I would too. I was thinking more the case where unconscious and
    unable to inform.
    In that case, the records might not be available, either.... Dunno
    if they do test for allergy on that sort of thing... I suppose worst
    case scenario, they do the life-saving surgery, and when the staples
    fester, they have to take them out and suture instead.... ;0
    That would sound logical. And possible in the great majority of
    emergency operations they know on whom they are operating: drivers
    licenses/other identifications. And the metal staples generally don't
    react, so minimizes the possibilty on the remaining small percentage.
    Or, on emergencies, they might just play it safe and not use staples...
    hard to say... ;)
    That's a possibility too. Hope neither one of us have to find out!
    True... I think I've had enough emergency situations already...
    and fortunately remained conscious when they happened... :)

    I'm pretty sure I was unconscious/dozed off/blacked out numerous times
    when I initiallty slipped and fractured my femur and was just sitting
    there waiting. Other 'boo-boo episides' fully conscious (and probably thinking "I shouldn't have done that!").


    I'm not so sure I'd want to see the real-life surgery! OTOH I'd
    probably find it interesting, albeit with a bit of squirm and squeam,
    since I had it performed on me.
    I'm sure I'd find it interesting... Probably I should have gone into
    medicine myself, but it's too late now... ;)
    If only you watched television: there's a show called "Carol's Second
    Act" about a teacher -- and I don't recall why she stopped teaching --
    who went to med school and is currently a resident in a teaching
    hospital.
    I think I've heard about that show.... I'd bet that she wasn't
    over 65 yet, though.... And still was in pretty good physical
    health... :)

    No, I think her character is around 45, maybe 50, which makes it more
    plausible to delve into a second career requiring college studies.


    Did test later: had disconnected the battery from the charger, let it
    sit a while, voltage had settled a bit, connected to the power port of
    the TV. Turned on the TV and ran for close to three hours. (This is
    the TV I plan to use during a power failure.)
    Sounds like the experiment was profitable and gave useful info.... :)
    Yes, and haven't needed to use the TV on battery as no power outages.
    Just as well... :)
    True! And though I didn't read ahead when starting this reply I
    decided I should recharge the battery. No bad weather predicted (maybe
    an inch overnight). Do need to compare the output voltage of the
    charger with the voltage from a UPS -- as I said before the charger
    seems to be outputting way too high a voltage. Not all that hard to do but delaying as want to continue cleaning up in the basement and so up here. Plus Autumn is coming over this afternoon.....
    Valid But Firsts... ;)

    Yea!! <gg> ...In the meantime was able to condense more schtuph up here because of the tossing and sorting in the basement. Looks better and
    worse down there: sections are organized, sections appear disorganized
    because 'holding' ==> have a bunch of smaller boxes, most of which will
    be cut up and go into recycling but right now what to keep them for
    sorting; audio cables get rolled up and twist-tied and into a Banker's
    Box; couplers and adapters also into the Banker's Box but in a small box
    so they don't migrate to the bottom. That type of usage for the smaller
    boxes.


    Have recharged the possibly damaged battery (the one that was paired
    with the battery inthe UPS that had shut down some time back) -- but
    haven't done a 'maintaining' test: not sure I will as the voltage is
    higher than I think it should be (higher than the 10% recommended) but
    maybe the voltmeter I'm using for that project is off (so need to
    compare to a different meter), and do I want another plug-in device
    slurping that phantom electricity? On-and-off cleaning/straightening/
    disposing project at my Electronics Workbench Area in the basement so
    don't want to distract me from that!
    Reasons enough to set it aside, at least for now... :)
    Especially as I am _finally_ getting to it!!
    The Electronics Workbench Area project, you mean....? :)

    That and the cleaning up up here: everything has to go some place!


    ... Floppy Not Responding...Format HARD DISK instead (Y/N)?

    Oh let's not!



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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to BARRY MARTIN on Wed Feb 12 21:14:00 2020
    Barry,

    ... Floppy Not Responding...Format HARD DISK instead (Y/N)?

    Oh let's not!

    That's like what that cartoon you sent me via email noted.

    For those who don't know...

    This woman was in a computer shop, and is screaming "FLOPPY DISKS. JOY STICKS. HARD DRIVES. WHAT KIND OF PERVERTED PLACE IS THIS??!!" <G>

    Daryl


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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Thu Feb 13 07:15:00 2020

    Hi Daryl!

    ... Floppy Not Responding...Format HARD DISK instead (Y/N)?
    Oh let's not!
    That's like what that cartoon you sent me via email noted.
    For those who don't know...

    Others can see your emails??!!


    This woman was in a computer shop, and is screaming "FLOPPY
    DISKS. JOY STICKS. HARD DRIVES. WHAT KIND OF PERVERTED PLACE IS
    THIS??!!" <G>

    All those becoming outdated. Well, the computer-related ones anyway!


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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to BARRY MARTIN on Sat Feb 15 04:28:00 2020
    Barry,

    For those who don't know...

    Others can see your emails??!!

    Google and Facebook. :P

    This woman was in a computer shop, and is screaming "FLOPPY
    DISKS. JOY STICKS. HARD DRIVES. WHAT KIND OF PERVERTED PLACE IS THIS??!!" <G>

    All those becoming outdated. Well, the computer-related ones anyway!

    But, it's almost like a "blonde joke".

    Daryl


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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Sat Feb 15 21:17:00 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 09-Feb-2020 09:22 <=-

    So, that last message, the tagline ended up totally random... Hit
    [Enter] before I quite looked at what at been brought up... ;) Not that inappropriate, either... ;)

    We weren't supposed to: supposed to get a ladder. The ladder was
    supposed to be in the department, which of course it rarely was.
    (If each selling department was supposed to have at least one ladder
    where did they all go?)
    Like the IV poles in the hospital, they are a gregarious lot, and
    congregate at the end of the hall, or maybe in the case of the
    ladders, at some equally unuseful area of the store.... ;)
    <chuckle> Yes, sometimes we did find two or three or four in a
    stockroom.
    Where, of course, only one (or maybe possibly two) would have been
    needed at one time....
    Right. ...So maybe the on-the-surface inanimate ladders did have a
    little life in them: they liked to congregate to socialize! <g>
    One does wonder at times... with where they all tend to end up...
    couldn't possibly be that humans had moved them all there and were
    too lazy to return to the proper place(s).... ;)
    We liked the "the come alive at night" option as there were times when some strange things happened overnight. Nothing bad, but sometimes mechandise and other items weren't in the same place ==> I thought
    sure I put this away last night, or a stack on the left instead of the right type of thing.

    You didn't have cleaning staff at night when the store was closed, did
    you....? But then there are tales where the 'occupants' of a store
    would come to life after the people all left.... ;)

    Seemed to be part of a sign of a good marriage: respect between the
    two. For time, likes/dislikes, etc.
    Indeed is a good sign of a good marriage... :)
    Yes: nothing is going to be perfect. One isn't the nurse/maid/butler/ chauffeur/etc. to the other, though there are times when one is
    injured and needs to be nursed, or come home from work and a cup of
    coffee is brought.

    Indeed... :)

    I make sure I tell any surgeon/doctor before I have any sort of
    surgery that might require any sort of sutures/staples... It isn't
    a regular question for the records, but it can always be put in
    later....
    Yes, I would too. I was thinking more the case where unconscious and
    unable to inform.
    In that case, the records might not be available, either.... Dunno
    if they do test for allergy on that sort of thing... I suppose worst
    case scenario, they do the life-saving surgery, and when the staples
    fester, they have to take them out and suture instead.... ;0
    That would sound logical. And possible in the great majority of
    emergency operations they know on whom they are operating: drivers
    licenses/other identifications. And the metal staples generally don't
    react, so minimizes the possibilty on the remaining small percentage.
    Or, on emergencies, they might just play it safe and not use staples...
    hard to say... ;)
    That's a possibility too. Hope neither one of us have to find out!
    True... I think I've had enough emergency situations already...
    and fortunately remained conscious when they happened... :)
    I'm pretty sure I was unconscious/dozed off/blacked out numerous times when I initially slipped and fractured my femur and was just sitting
    there waiting. Other 'boo-boo episodes' fully conscious (and probably thinking "I shouldn't have done that!").

    Did you have anyone with you as you waited for the femur fracture to be
    taken care of...? Richard joined me in the ER when I broke my ankle...

    I'm not so sure I'd want to see the real-life surgery! OTOH I'd
    probably find it interesting, albeit with a bit of squirm and squeam,
    since I had it performed on me.
    I'm sure I'd find it interesting... Probably I should have gone into
    medicine myself, but it's too late now... ;)
    If only you watched television: there's a show called "Carol's Second
    Act" about a teacher -- and I don't recall why she stopped teaching --
    who went to med school and is currently a resident in a teaching
    hospital.
    I think I've heard about that show.... I'd bet that she wasn't over
    65 yet, though.... And still was in pretty good physical health... :)
    No, I think her character is around 45, maybe 50, which makes it more plausible to delve into a second career requiring college studies.

    That's what I figured.... 20 years ago, I might have considered it a
    little more seriously... :)

    Did test later: had disconnected the battery from the charger, let it
    sit a while, voltage had settled a bit, connected to the power port of
    the TV. Turned on the TV and ran for close to three hours. (This is
    the TV I plan to use during a power failure.)
    Sounds like the experiment was profitable and gave useful info.... :)
    Yes, and haven't needed to use the TV on battery as no power outages.
    Just as well... :)
    True! And though I didn't read ahead when starting this reply I
    decided I should recharge the battery. No bad weather predicted (maybe
    an inch overnight). Do need to compare the output voltage of the
    charger with the voltage from a UPS -- as I said before the charger
    seems to be outputting way too high a voltage. Not all that hard to do
    but delaying as want to continue cleaning up in the basement and so up
    here. Plus Autumn is coming over this afternoon.....
    Valid But Firsts... ;)
    Yea!! <gg> ...In the meantime was able to condense more schtuph up
    here because of the tossing and sorting in the basement. Looks better
    and worse down there: sections are organized, sections appear
    disorganized because 'holding' ==> have a bunch of smaller boxes, most
    of which will be cut up and go into recycling but right now want to
    keep them for sorting; audio cables get rolled up and twist-tied and
    into a Banker's Box; couplers and adapters also into the Banker's Box
    but in a small box so they don't migrate to the bottom. That type of usage for the smaller boxes.

    It is, after all, a process... :)

    Have recharged the possibly damaged battery (the one that was paired
    with the battery inthe UPS that had shut down some time back) -- but
    haven't done a 'maintaining' test: not sure I will as the voltage is
    higher than I think it should be (higher than the 10% recommended) but
    maybe the voltmeter I'm using for that project is off (so need to
    compare to a different meter), and do I want another plug-in device
    slurping that phantom electricity? On-and-off cleaning/straightening/
    disposing project at my Electronics Workbench Area in the basement so
    don't want to distract me from that!
    Reasons enough to set it aside, at least for now... :)
    Especially as I am _finally_ getting to it!!
    The Electronics Workbench Area project, you mean....? :)
    That and the cleaning up up here: everything has to go some place!

    Right. :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Sun Feb 16 10:06:00 2020

    Hi Daryl!

    For those who don't know...
    Others can see your emails??!!
    Google and Facebook. :P

    It was rather interesting was I found one of my MythTV inquires on a
    Russian site! Yes, had been translated, or mostly: for some reason
    indented portions were not.


    This woman was in a computer shop, and is screaming "FLOPPY
    DISKS. JOY STICKS. HARD DRIVES. WHAT KIND OF PERVERTED PLACE IS THIS??!!" <G>
    All those becoming outdated. Well, the computer-related ones anyway!
    But, it's almost like a "blonde joke".

    Pretty close! ...Did you hear the one about the blond who went to the
    dentist for Bluetooth?!



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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Sun Feb 16 10:06:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    We weren't supposed to: supposed to get a ladder. The ladder was
    supposed to be in the department, which of course it rarely was.
    (If each selling department was supposed to have at least one ladder
    where did they all go?)
    Like the IV poles in the hospital, they are a gregarious lot, and
    congregate at the end of the hall, or maybe in the case of the
    ladders, at some equally unuseful area of the store.... ;)
    <chuckle> Yes, sometimes we did find two or three or four in a
    stockroom.
    Where, of course, only one (or maybe possibly two) would have been
    needed at one time....
    Right. ...So maybe the on-the-surface inanimate ladders did have a
    little life in them: they liked to congregate to socialize! <g>
    One does wonder at times... with where they all tend to end up...
    couldn't possibly be that humans had moved them all there and were
    too lazy to return to the proper place(s).... ;)
    We liked the "the come alive at night" option as there were times when some strange things happened overnight. Nothing bad, but sometimes mechandise and other items weren't in the same place ==> I thought
    sure I put this away last night, or a stack on the left instead of the right type of thing.
    You didn't have cleaning staff at night when the store was
    closed, did you....? But then there are tales where the
    'occupants' of a store would come to life after the people all
    left.... ;)

    No, the cleaning (and restocking) was done when at least two store
    employees were in the store.

    We sort of attributed it to the store's "ghost", which wasn't
    unfriendly, just got bored once in a while. Much later in the store
    history was the semi-joke of one of the deceased employees joining in on
    the deeds. He worked for the cleaning crew, though at that time they
    also had one or two in the store all day to continuously clean. He also
    worked in Automotive (attached to the store), I think as a tire
    mechanic. Anyway, seemed like he was always around, not a bad thing,
    though also managed to spend plenty of time with his family (his son and daughter worked in the store a summer or two).



    I make sure I tell any surgeon/doctor before I have any sort of
    surgery that might require any sort of sutures/staples... It isn't
    a regular question for the records, but it can always be put in
    later....
    Yes, I would too. I was thinking more the case where unconscious and
    unable to inform.
    In that case, the records might not be available, either.... Dunno
    if they do test for allergy on that sort of thing... I suppose worst
    case scenario, they do the life-saving surgery, and when the staples
    fester, they have to take them out and suture instead.... ;0
    That would sound logical. And possible in the great majority of
    emergency operations they know on whom they are operating: drivers
    licenses/other identifications. And the metal staples generally don't
    react, so minimizes the possibilty on the remaining small percentage.
    Or, on emergencies, they might just play it safe and not use staples...
    hard to say... ;)
    That's a possibility too. Hope neither one of us have to find out!
    True... I think I've had enough emergency situations already...
    and fortunately remained conscious when they happened... :)
    I'm pretty sure I was unconscious/dozed off/blacked out numerous times when I initially slipped and fractured my femur and was just sitting
    there waiting. Other 'boo-boo episodes' fully conscious (and probably thinking "I shouldn't have done that!").
    Did you have anyone with you as you waited for the femur fracture
    to be taken care of...? Richard joined me in the ER when I broke
    my ankle...

    Yes, my "partner in crime" joined me. Fortunately was told the correct hospital before leaving: I remember being in the ambulance outside the
    store and we were just waiting. Medic riding with me told me I was
    originally to go to Genesis East but something happened and they were
    deciding where I should go -- Iowa-side hospitals are Genesis, East and
    West campuses, and Trinity; no idea if the ones in Illinois were being considered: would have been only two or three miles more travel.
    Eventually did get assigned to Genesis West, which happened to be the
    closest (East campus would have been about a mile further the other direction).


    I'm not so sure I'd want to see the real-life surgery! OTOH I'd
    probably find it interesting, albeit with a bit of squirm and squeam,
    since I had it performed on me.
    I'm sure I'd find it interesting... Probably I should have gone into
    medicine myself, but it's too late now... ;)
    If only you watched television: there's a show called "Carol's Second
    Act" about a teacher -- and I don't recall why she stopped teaching --
    who went to med school and is currently a resident in a teaching
    hospital.
    I think I've heard about that show.... I'd bet that she wasn't over
    65 yet, though.... And still was in pretty good physical health... :)
    No, I think her character is around 45, maybe 50, which makes it more plausible to delve into a second career requiring college studies.
    That's what I figured.... 20 years ago, I might have considered
    it a little more seriously... :)

    <chuckle> Yes, age does tend to put a crimp on a few options. ...Could
    always volunteer, though right now where I am even the scheduling of volunteering would not fit in.


    Yea!! <gg> ...In the meantime was able to condense more schtuph up
    here because of the tossing and sorting in the basement. Looks better
    and worse down there: sections are organized, sections appear
    disorganized because 'holding' ==> have a bunch of smaller boxes, most
    of which will be cut up and go into recycling but right now want to
    keep them for sorting; audio cables get rolled up and twist-tied and
    into a Banker's Box; couplers and adapters also into the Banker's Box
    but in a small box so they don't migrate to the bottom. That type of usage for the smaller boxes.
    It is, after all, a process... :)

    Yes.... And what works for me doesn't necessarily work for anyone else.
    I do have drawer sets -- metal holder with a bunch of plastic drawers --
    years ago built several of those into the wall to hold screws, bolts,
    nuts, plus various miscellania like LEDs, connectors, etc., etc. The
    audio couplers would fit in the drawers just don't fit in with my way of thinking: to me makes more sense to be with the cables.



    Have recharged the possibly damaged battery (the one that was paired
    with the battery inthe UPS that had shut down some time back) -- but
    haven't done a 'maintaining' test: not sure I will as the voltage is
    higher than I think it should be (higher than the 10% recommended) but
    maybe the voltmeter I'm using for that project is off (so need to
    compare to a different meter), and do I want another plug-in device
    slurping that phantom electricity? On-and-off cleaning/straightening/
    disposing project at my Electronics Workbench Area in the basement so
    don't want to distract me from that!
    Reasons enough to set it aside, at least for now... :)
    Especially as I am _finally_ getting to it!!
    The Electronics Workbench Area project, you mean....? :)
    That and the cleaning up up here: everything has to go some place!
    Right. :)

    Need to get back to it: had downloaded soundtracks from _Perfect
    Harmony_ (TV show) for Valentine's Day -- burn to CD, create a label,
    done! ....OK why is Brassero (the burning sofware) just sitting
    there?? ...Apparently was broken about a year ago from what I read
    on-line. (I think the last time I made a CD was two maybe three years
    ago -- all to hard drive or thumbdrive.) Go find other options --
    eventually find and gift and hope it works: everything up here will play
    just about whatever I throw at it: stand-alone audio CD players are
    alittle picky! Good news: works! :)



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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to BARRY MARTIN on Tue Feb 18 00:24:00 2020
    Barry,

    It was rather interesting was I found one of my MythTV inquires on a BM>Russian site! Yes, had been translated, or mostly: for some reason BM>indented portions were not.

    I keep thinking about the subject "lost in the translation". One sign
    in an overseas hotel translates to "Guests are invited to take advantage
    of the chambermaid". :P

    Pretty close! ...Did you hear the one about the blond who went to the BM>dentist for Bluetooth?!

    Well, in the hospital in the Smurf Nursery, the main song is "Blue
    Moon". <G>

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Wed Feb 19 09:37:00 2020

    Hi Daryl!

    It was rather interesting was I found one of my MythTV inquires on a
    Russian site! Yes, had been translated, or mostly: for some reason
    indented portions were not.
    I keep thinking about the subject "lost in the translation".
    One sign in an overseas hotel translates to "Guests are invited
    to take advantage of the chambermaid". :P

    Google Translate does have a few 'quirks'. Some time back I had used it
    to translate to Hungarian; checked back (Hungarian back to English) and
    my original of something like "it's hot here" came through as something
    about people being roasted!!


    Pretty close! ...Did you hear the one about the blond who went to the
    dentist for Bluetooth?!
    Well, in the hospital in the Smurf Nursery, the main song is
    "Blue Moon". <G>

    I thought that was Grandpa Smurf being grumpy!



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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Sat Feb 22 03:12:42 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 16-Feb-2020 10:06 <=-

    Right. ...So maybe the on-the-surface inanimate ladders did have a
    little life in them: they liked to congregate to socialize! <g>
    One does wonder at times... with where they all tend to end up...
    couldn't possibly be that humans had moved them all there and were
    too lazy to return to the proper place(s).... ;)
    We liked the "the come alive at night" option as there were times when
    some strange things happened overnight. Nothing bad, but sometimes
    mechandise and other items weren't in the same place ==> I thought
    sure I put this away last night, or a stack on the left instead of the
    right type of thing.
    You didn't have cleaning staff at night when the store was closed,
    did you....?
    No, the cleaning (and restocking) was done when at least two store
    employees were in the store.

    I thought that was somewhat unlikely, actually....

    But then there are tales where the 'occupants' of a store
    would come to life after the people all left.... ;)
    We sort of attributed it to the store's "ghost", which wasn't
    unfriendly, just got bored once in a while. Much later in the store history was the semi-joke of one of the deceased employees joining in
    on the deeds. He worked for the cleaning crew, though at that time
    they also had one or two in the store all day to continuously clean.
    He also worked in Automotive (attached to the store), I think as a tire mechanic. Anyway, seemed like he was always around, not a bad thing, though also managed to spend plenty of time with his family (his son
    and daughter worked in the store a summer or two).

    And so, after he died, y'all just figured he still couldn't stay
    away....? ;)

    Or, on emergencies, they might just play it safe and not use
    staples... hard to say... ;)
    That's a possibility too. Hope neither one of us have to find out!
    True... I think I've had enough emergency situations already...
    and fortunately remained conscious when they happened... :)
    I'm pretty sure I was unconscious/dozed off/blacked out numerous times
    when I initially slipped and fractured my femur and was just sitting
    there waiting. Other 'boo-boo episodes' fully conscious (and probably
    thinking "I shouldn't have done that!").
    Did you have anyone with you as you waited for the femur fracture
    to be taken care of...? Richard joined me in the ER when I broke
    my ankle...
    Yes, my "partner in crime" joined me. Fortunately was told the
    correct hospital before leaving: I remember being in the ambulance
    outside the store and we were just waiting. Medic riding with me told
    me I was originally to go to Genesis East but something happened and
    they were deciding where I should go -- Iowa-side hospitals are
    Genesis, East and West campuses, and Trinity; no idea if the ones in Illinois were being considered: would have been only two or three miles more travel. Eventually did get assigned to Genesis West, which
    happened to be the closest (East campus would have been about a mile further the other direction).

    That worked out fine, then.... A similar thing happened to me for my
    ambulance ride for the ankle... the closest hospital to the incident
    happened to be full up, and so was the next nearest, so they ended up
    taking me to a third hospital, which I think may be the closest to our
    house, actually... :)

    I'm not so sure I'd want to see the real-life surgery! OTOH I'd
    probably find it interesting, albeit with a bit of squirm and squeam,
    since I had it performed on me.
    I'm sure I'd find it interesting... Probably I should have gone into
    medicine myself, but it's too late now... ;)
    If only you watched television: there's a show called "Carol's Second
    Act" about a teacher -- and I don't recall why she stopped teaching --
    who went to med school and is currently a resident in a teaching
    hospital.
    I think I've heard about that show.... I'd bet that she wasn't over
    65 yet, though.... And still was in pretty good physical health... :)
    No, I think her character is around 45, maybe 50, which makes it more
    plausible to delve into a second career requiring college studies.
    That's what I figured.... 20 years ago, I might have considered
    it a little more seriously... :)
    <chuckle> Yes, age does tend to put a crimp on a few options.
    ...Could always volunteer, though right now where I am even the
    scheduling of volunteering would not fit in.

    I'm not really physically up to the regular grind of volunteering on a
    regular schedule, either, any more... and wouldn't be able to do
    anything that required lifting more than 15 pounds or so....

    Yea!! <gg> ...In the meantime was able to condense more schtuph up
    here because of the tossing and sorting in the basement. Looks better
    and worse down there: sections are organized, sections appear
    disorganized because 'holding' ==> have a bunch of smaller boxes, most
    of which will be cut up and go into recycling but right now want to
    keep them for sorting; audio cables get rolled up and twist-tied and
    into a Banker's Box; couplers and adapters also into the Banker's Box
    but in a small box so they don't migrate to the bottom. That type of
    usage for the smaller boxes.
    It is, after all, a process... :)
    Yes.... And what works for me doesn't necessarily work for anyone
    else. I do have drawer sets -- metal holder with a bunch of plastic drawers -- years ago built several of those into the wall to hold
    screws, bolts, nuts, plus various miscellania like LEDs, connectors,
    etc., etc. The audio couplers would fit in the drawers just don't fit
    in with my way of thinking: to me makes more sense to be with the
    cables.

    One has to organize how one would be looking for the things, and by what
    makes sense to one's self... ;)

    Especially as I am _finally_ getting to it!!
    The Electronics Workbench Area project, you mean....? :)
    That and the cleaning up up here: everything has to go some place!
    Right. :)
    Need to get back to it: had downloaded soundtracks from _Perfect
    Harmony_ (TV show) for Valentine's Day -- burn to CD, create a label, done! ....OK why is Brassero (the burning sofware) just sitting
    there?? ...Apparently was broken about a year ago from what I read on-line. (I think the last time I made a CD was two maybe three years
    ago -- all to hard drive or thumbdrive.) Go find other options -- eventually find and gift and hope it works: everything up here will
    play just about whatever I throw at it: stand-alone audio CD players
    are a little picky! Good news: works! :)

    Good that it finally worked for you... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Sat Feb 22 09:34:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    Right. ...So maybe the on-the-surface inanimate ladders did have a
    little life in them: they liked to congregate to socialize! <g>
    One does wonder at times... with where they all tend to end up...
    couldn't possibly be that humans had moved them all there and were
    too lazy to return to the proper place(s).... ;)
    We liked the "the come alive at night" option as there were times when
    some strange things happened overnight. Nothing bad, but sometimes
    mechandise and other items weren't in the same place ==> I thought
    sure I put this away last night, or a stack on the left instead of the
    right type of thing.
    You didn't have cleaning staff at night when the store was closed,
    did you....?
    No, the cleaning (and restocking) was done when at least two store
    employees were in the store.
    I thought that was somewhat unlikely, actually....

    Some stores do have overnight stockers.


    But then there are tales where the 'occupants' of a store
    would come to life after the people all left.... ;)
    We sort of attributed it to the store's "ghost", which wasn't
    unfriendly, just got bored once in a while. Much later in the store history was the semi-joke of one of the deceased employees joining in
    on the deeds. He worked for the cleaning crew, though at that time
    they also had one or two in the store all day to continuously clean.
    He also worked in Automotive (attached to the store), I think as a tire mechanic. Anyway, seemed like he was always around, not a bad thing, though also managed to spend plenty of time with his family (his son
    and daughter worked in the store a summer or two).
    And so, after he died, y'all just figured he still couldn't stay
    away....? ;)

    Yup!


    Or, on emergencies, they might just play it safe and not use
    staples... hard to say... ;)
    That's a possibility too. Hope neither one of us have to find out!
    True... I think I've had enough emergency situations already...
    and fortunately remained conscious when they happened... :)
    I'm pretty sure I was unconscious/dozed off/blacked out numerous times
    when I initially slipped and fractured my femur and was just sitting
    there waiting. Other 'boo-boo episodes' fully conscious (and probably
    thinking "I shouldn't have done that!").
    Did you have anyone with you as you waited for the femur fracture
    to be taken care of...? Richard joined me in the ER when I broke
    my ankle...
    Yes, my "partner in crime" joined me. Fortunately was told the
    correct hospital before leaving: I remember being in the ambulance
    outside the store and we were just waiting. Medic riding with me told
    me I was originally to go to Genesis East but something happened and
    they were deciding where I should go -- Iowa-side hospitals are
    Genesis, East and West campuses, and Trinity; no idea if the ones in Illinois were being considered: would have been only two or three miles more travel. Eventually did get assigned to Genesis West, which
    happened to be the closest (East campus would have been about a mile further the other direction).
    That worked out fine, then.... A similar thing happened to me for
    my ambulance ride for the ankle... the closest hospital to the
    incident happened to be full up, and so was the next nearest, so
    they ended up taking me to a third hospital, which I think may be
    the closest to our house, actually... :)

    So worked out for you and Richard! The hospital where I was taken when
    I fractured the femur was furthest from the house by maybe two miles but
    ended up they called in the apparently best orthopedic surgeon: the
    nurses' comments on "oh you have Dr. so-and-so" indicted he was very
    highly thought of; AFICT he was very good. :) Don't know if he would
    have been on-call at the other hospital and therefore doing my surgery. Appears to have worked out quite well for me.


    I'm not so sure I'd want to see the real-life surgery! OTOH I'd
    probably find it interesting, albeit with a bit of squirm and squeam,
    since I had it performed on me.
    I'm sure I'd find it interesting... Probably I should have gone into
    medicine myself, but it's too late now... ;)
    If only you watched television: there's a show called "Carol's Second
    Act" about a teacher -- and I don't recall why she stopped teaching --
    who went to med school and is currently a resident in a teaching
    hospital.
    I think I've heard about that show.... I'd bet that she wasn't over
    65 yet, though.... And still was in pretty good physical health... :)
    No, I think her character is around 45, maybe 50, which makes it more
    plausible to delve into a second career requiring college studies.
    That's what I figured.... 20 years ago, I might have considered
    it a little more seriously... :)
    <chuckle> Yes, age does tend to put a crimp on a few options.
    ...Could always volunteer, though right now where I am even the
    scheduling of volunteering would not fit in.
    I'm not really physically up to the regular grind of volunteering
    on a regular schedule, either, any more... and wouldn't be able
    to do anything that required lifting more than 15 pounds or
    so....

    I forgot about your 15-lb. limitation. I might help but it would be for
    a very short-term commitment: busy here, and "don' wanna".


    Yea!! <gg> ...In the meantime was able to condense more schtuph up
    here because of the tossing and sorting in the basement. Looks better
    and worse down there: sections are organized, sections appear
    disorganized because 'holding' ==> have a bunch of smaller boxes, most
    of which will be cut up and go into recycling but right now want to
    keep them for sorting; audio cables get rolled up and twist-tied and
    into a Banker's Box; couplers and adapters also into the Banker's Box
    but in a small box so they don't migrate to the bottom. That type of
    usage for the smaller boxes.
    It is, after all, a process... :)
    Yes.... And what works for me doesn't necessarily work for anyone
    else. I do have drawer sets -- metal holder with a bunch of plastic drawers -- years ago built several of those into the wall to hold
    screws, bolts, nuts, plus various miscellania like LEDs, connectors,
    etc., etc. The audio couplers would fit in the drawers just don't fit
    in with my way of thinking: to me makes more sense to be with the
    cables.
    One has to organize how one would be looking for the things, and
    by what makes sense to one's self... ;)

    Right. Various ways of filing and sorting aren't necessarily right nor
    wrong. Years ago when I got started with computer building the intent
    was to do it in the basement -- it can get very cold down there in the
    winter! Maybe almost 60, but need a light jacket to stay down there
    for any length of time.


    Especially as I am _finally_ getting to it!!
    The Electronics Workbench Area project, you mean....? :)
    That and the cleaning up up here: everything has to go some place!
    Right. :)
    Need to get back to it: had downloaded soundtracks from _Perfect
    Harmony_ (TV show) for Valentine's Day -- burn to CD, create a label, done! ....OK why is Brassero (the burning sofware) just sitting
    there?? ...Apparently was broken about a year ago from what I read on-line. (I think the last time I made a CD was two maybe three years
    ago -- all to hard drive or thumbdrive.) Go find other options -- eventually find and gift and hope it works: everything up here will
    play just about whatever I throw at it: stand-alone audio CD players
    are a little picky! Good news: works! :)
    Good that it finally worked for you... :)

    Yup!



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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Thu Feb 27 02:16:10 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 22-Feb-2020 09:34 <=-

    We liked the "the come alive at night" option as there were times when
    some strange things happened overnight. Nothing bad, but sometimes
    mechandise and other items weren't in the same place ==> I thought
    sure I put this away last night, or a stack on the left instead of the
    right type of thing.
    You didn't have cleaning staff at night when the store was closed,
    did you....?
    No, the cleaning (and restocking) was done when at least two store
    employees were in the store.
    I thought that was somewhat unlikely, actually....
    Some stores do have overnight stockers.

    Wegmans does... but then most of their stores are also open 24 hours, so
    the major stocking happens when there is less customer traffic... :)

    Did you have anyone with you as you waited for the femur fracture
    to be taken care of...? Richard joined me in the ER when I broke
    my ankle...
    Yes, my "partner in crime" joined me. Fortunately was told the
    correct hospital before leaving: I remember being in the ambulance
    outside the store and we were just waiting. Medic riding with me told
    me I was originally to go to Genesis East but something happened and
    they were deciding where I should go -- Iowa-side hospitals are
    Genesis, East and West campuses, and Trinity; no idea if the ones in
    Illinois were being considered: would have been only two or three miles
    more travel. Eventually did get assigned to Genesis West, which
    happened to be the closest (East campus would have been about a mile
    further the other direction).
    That worked out fine, then.... A similar thing happened to me for
    my ambulance ride for the ankle... the closest hospital to the
    incident happened to be full up, and so was the next nearest, so
    they ended up taking me to a third hospital, which I think may be
    the closest to our house, actually... :)
    So worked out for you and Richard! The hospital where I was taken
    when I fractured the femur was furthest from the house by maybe two
    miles but ended up they called in the apparently best orthopedic
    surgeon: the nurses' comments on "oh you have Dr. so-and-so" indicted
    he was very highly thought of; AFICT he was very good. :) Don't know
    if he would have been on-call at the other hospital and therefore doing
    my surgery. Appears to have worked out quite well for me.

    Indeed. I had a similar "getting the best" serendipity... my surgery
    couldn't be done the day/night I came in to the hospital, so it was put
    off until the next day... at which point the really good doctor was
    scheduled to be taking care of the emergency surgeries... so that worked
    well for me... :)

    I think I've heard about that show.... I'd bet that she wasn't over
    65 yet, though.... And still was in pretty good physical health... :)
    No, I think her character is around 45, maybe 50, which makes it more
    plausible to delve into a second career requiring college studies.
    That's what I figured.... 20 years ago, I might have considered
    it a little more seriously... :)
    <chuckle> Yes, age does tend to put a crimp on a few options.
    ...Could always volunteer, though right now where I am even the
    scheduling of volunteering would not fit in.
    I'm not really physically up to the regular grind of volunteering
    on a regular schedule, either, any more... and wouldn't be able
    to do anything that required lifting more than 15 pounds or so....
    I forgot about your 15-lb. limitation. I might help but it would be
    for a very short-term commitment: busy here, and "don' wanna".

    Volunteering does take a certain attitude along with having the proper capabilities... :)

    It is, after all, a process... :)
    Yes.... And what works for me doesn't necessarily work for anyone
    else. I do have drawer sets -- metal holder with a bunch of plastic
    drawers -- years ago built several of those into the wall to hold
    screws, bolts, nuts, plus various miscellania like LEDs, connectors,
    etc., etc. The audio couplers would fit in the drawers just don't fit
    in with my way of thinking: to me makes more sense to be with the
    cables.
    One has to organize how one would be looking for the things, and
    by what makes sense to one's self... ;)
    Right. Various ways of filing and sorting aren't necessarily right
    nor wrong. Years ago when I got started with computer building the
    intent was to do it in the basement -- it can get very cold down there
    in the winter! Maybe almost 60, but need a light jacket to stay down there for any length of time.

    Especially as one gets older, and is more affected by cold... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Thu Feb 27 08:28:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    We liked the "the come alive at night" option as there were times when
    some strange things happened overnight. Nothing bad, but sometimes
    mechandise and other items weren't in the same place ==> I thought
    sure I put this away last night, or a stack on the left instead of the
    right type of thing.
    You didn't have cleaning staff at night when the store was closed,
    did you....?
    No, the cleaning (and restocking) was done when at least two store
    employees were in the store.
    I thought that was somewhat unlikely, actually....
    Some stores do have overnight stockers.
    Wegmans does... but then most of their stores are also open 24
    hours, so the major stocking happens when there is less customer traffic... :)

    For some reason Hy-Vee, WalMart, and I think a few other stores
    suddenly started closing at midnight, reopening at either five or six.
    The Hy-Vee announcement was "all Quad City stores and Clinton". ...And
    there are stores on the Illinois side, also closing at midnight. The Walgreens hours haven't seemed to have been changed, but then they're pharmacy, though still attached to a store. Drive through only??
    Checking on-line implies the entire site is open.

    I've never shopped at two in the morning but could see people working
    second shift shopping then.



    they ended up taking me to a third hospital, which I think may be
    the closest to our house, actually... :)
    So worked out for you and Richard! The hospital where I was taken
    when I fractured the femur was furthest from the house by maybe two
    miles but ended up they called in the apparently best orthopedic
    surgeon: the nurses' comments on "oh you have Dr. so-and-so" indicated
    he was very highly thought of; AFICT he was very good. :) Don't know
    if he would have been on-call at the other hospital and therefore doing
    my surgery. Appears to have worked out quite well for me.
    Indeed. I had a similar "getting the best" serendipity... my
    surgery couldn't be done the day/night I came in to the hospital,
    so it was put off until the next day... at which point the really
    good doctor was scheduled to be taking care of the emergency
    surgeries... so that worked well for me... :)

    Sometimes what appears to be a minor or even major inconvenience really
    works out for the best. :)




    I think I've heard about that show.... I'd bet that she wasn't over
    65 yet, though.... And still was in pretty good physical health... :)
    No, I think her character is around 45, maybe 50, which makes it more
    plausible to delve into a second career requiring college studies.
    That's what I figured.... 20 years ago, I might have considered
    it a little more seriously... :)
    <chuckle> Yes, age does tend to put a crimp on a few options.
    ...Could always volunteer, though right now where I am even the
    scheduling of volunteering would not fit in.
    I'm not really physically up to the regular grind of volunteering
    on a regular schedule, either, any more... and wouldn't be able
    to do anything that required lifting more than 15 pounds or so....
    I forgot about your 15-lb. limitation. I might help but it would be
    for a very short-term commitment: busy here, and "don' wanna".
    Volunteering does take a certain attitude along with having the
    proper capabilities... :)

    Sort of along similar lines I did fairly well at tutoring but I'd
    probably nto do well at teaching ==> individual or a small group where
    can interact one-on-one vs. big group and generally loose individuality.



    It is, after all, a process... :)
    Yes.... And what works for me doesn't necessarily work for anyone
    else. I do have drawer sets -- metal holder with a bunch of plastic
    drawers -- years ago built several of those into the wall to hold
    screws, bolts, nuts, plus various miscellania like LEDs, connectors,
    etc., etc. The audio couplers would fit in the drawers just don't fit
    in with my way of thinking: to me makes more sense to be with the
    cables.
    One has to organize how one would be looking for the things, and
    by what makes sense to one's self... ;)
    Right. Various ways of filing and sorting aren't necessarily right
    nor wrong. Years ago when I got started with computer building the
    intent was to do it in the basement -- it can get very cold down there
    in the winter! Maybe almost 60, but need a light jacket to stay down there for any length of time.
    Especially as one gets older, and is more affected by cold... :)

    Nah: it's colder down there than it was! <g>



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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Thu Mar 5 01:09:52 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 27-Feb-2020 08:28 <=-

    some strange things happened overnight. Nothing bad, but sometimes
    mechandise and other items weren't in the same place ==> I thought
    sure I put this away last night, or a stack on the left instead of the
    right type of thing.
    You didn't have cleaning staff at night when the store was closed,
    did you....?
    No, the cleaning (and restocking) was done when at least two store
    employees were in the store.
    I thought that was somewhat unlikely, actually....
    Some stores do have overnight stockers.
    Wegmans does... but then most of their stores are also open 24 hours,
    so the major stocking happens when there is less customer traffic... :)
    For some reason Hy-Vee, WalMart, and I think a few other stores
    suddenly started closing at midnight, reopening at either five or six.

    It may be a cost-cutting move... I know that a number of the Wegmans
    stores are closing at midnight, reopening at six, including our usual
    one, but don't think that that applies to all of them....

    The Hy-Vee announcement was "all Quad City stores and Clinton".
    ...And there are stores on the Illinois side, also closing at midnight.

    The other possibility is that it might be a security issue... fewer
    people in the store, but maybe more of a chance that someone nefarious
    might come and cause problems....?

    The Walgreens hours haven't seemed to have been changed, but then
    they're pharmacy, though still attached to a store. Drive through
    only?? Checking on-line implies the entire site is open.

    It's a smaller store anyway than the grocery/pharmacy/etc stores like
    HyVee and Wegmans, so maybe needs less security...?

    I've never shopped at two in the morning but could see people working second shift shopping then.

    I've done it a time or two, but not a general practice to be sure... :)
    I think it was after midnight one evening I stopped into the Wegmans to
    grab some food on my way home from the hospital when Richard was in
    there for his bypass...

    they ended up taking me to a third hospital, which I think may be
    the closest to our house, actually... :)
    So worked out for you and Richard! The hospital where I was taken
    when I fractured the femur was furthest from the house by maybe two
    miles but ended up they called in the apparently best orthopedic
    surgeon: the nurses' comments on "oh you have Dr. so-and-so" indicated
    he was very highly thought of; AFICT he was very good. :) Don't know
    if he would have been on-call at the other hospital and therefore doing
    my surgery. Appears to have worked out quite well for me.
    Indeed. I had a similar "getting the best" serendipity... my surgery
    couldn't be done the day/night I came in to the hospital, so it was put
    off until the next day... at which point the really good doctor was
    scheduled to be taking care of the emergency surgeries... so that
    worked well for me... :)
    Sometimes what appears to be a minor or even major inconvenience
    really works out for the best. :)

    Yup. :)

    ...Could always volunteer, though right now where I am even the
    scheduling of volunteering would not fit in.
    I'm not really physically up to the regular grind of volunteering on
    a regular schedule, either, any more... and wouldn't be able to do
    anything that required lifting more than 15 pounds or so....
    I forgot about your 15-lb. limitation. I might help but it would be
    for a very short-term commitment: busy here, and "don' wanna".
    Volunteering does take a certain attitude along with having the proper
    capabilities... :)
    Sort of along similar lines I did fairly well at tutoring but I'd
    probably not do well at teaching ==> individual or a small group where
    can interact one-on-one vs. big group and generally loose
    individuality.

    You'd never know until you tried, though.... I had thought similarly,
    until I ended up having to actually teach a few classes at our genealogy meetings... and discovered I could still hold attention after all...
    checking reactions from certain key audience members can give the
    feedback that one generally gets from the one-on-one or small group... I
    still prefer the smaller settings, though... :)

    One has to organize how one would be looking for the things, and
    by what makes sense to one's self... ;)
    Right. Various ways of filing and sorting aren't necessarily right
    nor wrong. Years ago when I got started with computer building the
    intent was to do it in the basement -- it can get very cold down there
    in the winter! Maybe almost 60, but need a light jacket to stay down
    there for any length of time.
    Especially as one gets older, and is more affected by cold... :)
    Nah: it's colder down there than it was! <g>

    Yeah, right.... ;)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Thu Mar 5 11:51:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    some strange things happened overnight. Nothing bad, but sometimes
    mechandise and other items weren't in the same place ==> I thought
    sure I put this away last night, or a stack on the left instead of the
    right type of thing.
    You didn't have cleaning staff at night when the store was closed,
    did you....?
    No, the cleaning (and restocking) was done when at least two store
    employees were in the store.
    I thought that was somewhat unlikely, actually....
    Some stores do have overnight stockers.
    Wegmans does... but then most of their stores are also open 24 hours,
    so the major stocking happens when there is less customer traffic... :)
    For some reason Hy-Vee, WalMart, and I think a few other stores
    suddenly started closing at midnight, reopening at either five or six.
    It may be a cost-cutting move... I know that a number of the
    Wegmans stores are closing at midnight, reopening at six,
    including our usual one, but don't think that that applies to all
    of them....

    OK, thanks. Just thougt it a bit odd Walmart, etc., did the midnight
    closings about the same time as Hy-Vee. Almost verifies my theory the
    various store managements meet in secret and agree on things. <jk>


    The Hy-Vee announcement was "all Quad City stores and Clinton".
    ...And there are stores on the Illinois side, also closing at midnight.
    The other possibility is that it might be a security issue...
    fewer people in the store, but maybe more of a chance that
    someone nefarious might come and cause problems....?

    That can happen at any time of the day or night!!


    The Walgreens hours haven't seemed to have been changed, but then
    they're pharmacy, though still attached to a store. Drive through
    only?? Checking on-line implies the entire site is open.
    It's a smaller store anyway than the grocery/pharmacy/etc stores
    like HyVee and Wegmans, so maybe needs less security...?

    Possibly, or some of the money saved on payroll, lights, etc., at the
    closed stores goes to pay for security/additional security at the 24
    hour stores.


    I've never shopped at two in the morning but could see people working second shift shopping then.
    I've done it a time or two, but not a general practice to be
    sure... :) I think it was after midnight one evening I stopped
    into the Wegmans to grab some food on my way home from the
    hospital when Richard was in there for his bypass...

    There are always some reasons to be shopping late at night/early
    morning even if not usually awake at that hour.


    ...Could always volunteer, though right now where I am even the
    scheduling of volunteering would not fit in.
    I'm not really physically up to the regular grind of volunteering on
    a regular schedule, either, any more... and wouldn't be able to do
    anything that required lifting more than 15 pounds or so....
    I forgot about your 15-lb. limitation. I might help but it would be
    for a very short-term commitment: busy here, and "don' wanna".
    Volunteering does take a certain attitude along with having the proper
    capabilities... :)
    Sort of along similar lines I did fairly well at tutoring but I'd
    probably not do well at teaching ==> individual or a small group where
    can interact one-on-one vs. big group and generally loose
    individuality.
    You'd never know until you tried, though.... I had thought
    similarly, until I ended up having to actually teach a few
    classes at our genealogy meetings... and discovered I could still
    hold attention after all... checking reactions from certain key
    audience members can give the feedback that one generally gets
    from the one-on-one or small group... I still prefer the smaller
    settings, though... :)

    Yes, years back I had done some small groups and there were some people
    to watch for feedback while others were, well, not good for feedback.
    Not to be ignored, but not all that good for generla guidance.



    One has to organize how one would be looking for the things, and
    by what makes sense to one's self... ;)
    Right. Various ways of filing and sorting aren't necessarily right
    nor wrong. Years ago when I got started with computer building the
    intent was to do it in the basement -- it can get very cold down there
    in the winter! Maybe almost 60, but need a light jacket to stay down
    there for any length of time.
    Especially as one gets older, and is more affected by cold... :)
    Nah: it's colder down there than it was! <g>
    Yeah, right.... ;)

    Umm, light jacket that's easy to wash over the regular clothes?



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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Tue Mar 10 19:17:32 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 05-Mar-2020 11:51 <=-

    Some stores do have overnight stockers.
    Wegmans does... but then most of their stores are also open 24 hours,
    so the major stocking happens when there is less customer traffic... :)
    For some reason Hy-Vee, WalMart, and I think a few other stores
    suddenly started closing at midnight, reopening at either five or six.
    It may be a cost-cutting move... I know that a number of the Wegmans
    stores are closing at midnight, reopening at six, including our usual
    one, but don't think that that applies to all of them....
    OK, thanks. Just thought it a bit odd Walmart, etc., did the midnight closings about the same time as Hy-Vee. Almost verifies my theory the various store managements meet in secret and agree on things. <jk>

    You never know... ;) Didn't have to exactly be collusion, though... I
    think back to when the grocery stores all decided to drop the double
    (and triple) couponing at the same time... let one get wind of the
    plans, and they'll all follow suit... and it just looks like they agreed
    on it... <G>

    Oh, and Richard said that even though they aren't open for business, the
    bulk of the stocking still gets done overnight at Wegmans....

    The Hy-Vee announcement was "all Quad City stores and Clinton".
    ...And there are stores on the Illinois side, also closing at midnight.
    The other possibility is that it might be a security issue...
    fewer people in the store, but maybe more of a chance that someone
    nefarious might come and cause problems....?
    That can happen at any time of the day or night!!

    True... but with more people in the store, more likely that things would
    be noticed and quickly dealt with....

    The Walgreens hours haven't seemed to have been changed, but then
    they're pharmacy, though still attached to a store. Drive through
    only?? Checking on-line implies the entire site is open.
    It's a smaller store anyway than the grocery/pharmacy/etc stores
    like HyVee and Wegmans, so maybe needs less security...?
    Possibly, or some of the money saved on payroll, lights, etc., at the closed stores goes to pay for security/additional security at the 24
    hour stores.

    That's assuming outside security, not store-paid security employees...

    I've never shopped at two in the morning but could see people working
    second shift shopping then.
    I've done it a time or two, but not a general practice to be sure.. :)
    I think it was after midnight one evening I stopped into the Wegmans
    to grab some food on my way home from the hospital when Richard was in
    there for his bypass...
    There are always some reasons to be shopping late at night/early
    morning even if not usually awake at that hour.

    Exactly... so it's good that there are still some stores open 24 hours...

    Sort of along similar lines I did fairly well at tutoring but I'd
    probably not do well at teaching ==> individual or a small group where
    can interact one-on-one vs. big group and generally loose
    individuality.
    You'd never know until you tried, though.... I had thought similarly,
    until I ended up having to actually teach a few classes at our
    genealogy meetings... and discovered I could still hold attention
    after all... checking reactions from certain key audience members can
    give the feedback that one generally gets from the one-on-one or
    small group... I still prefer the smaller settings, though... :)
    Yes, years back I had done some small groups and there were some
    people to watch for feedback while others were, well, not good for feedback. Not to be ignored, but not all that good for general
    guidance.

    Right. :) Keep eye contact, but look to others for signs of 'you just
    lost me there'....

    One has to organize how one would be looking for the things, and
    by what makes sense to one's self... ;)
    Right. Various ways of filing and sorting aren't necessarily right
    nor wrong. Years ago when I got started with computer building the
    intent was to do it in the basement -- it can get very cold down there
    in the winter! Maybe almost 60, but need a light jacket to stay down
    there for any length of time.
    Especially as one gets older, and is more affected by cold... :)
    Nah: it's colder down there than it was! <g>
    Yeah, right.... ;)
    Umm, light jacket that's easy to wash over the regular clothes?

    Just so long as you don't need gloves that would hamper your work... <G>

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Wed Mar 11 08:45:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    Some stores do have overnight stockers.
    Wegmans does... but then most of their stores are also open 24 hours,
    so the major stocking happens when there is less customer traffic... :)
    For some reason Hy-Vee, WalMart, and I think a few other stores
    suddenly started closing at midnight, reopening at either five or six.
    It may be a cost-cutting move... I know that a number of the Wegmans
    stores are closing at midnight, reopening at six, including our usual
    one, but don't think that that applies to all of them....
    OK, thanks. Just thought it a bit odd Walmart, etc., did the midnight closings about the same time as Hy-Vee. Almost verifies my theory the various store managements meet in secret and agree on things. <jk>
    You never know... ;) Didn't have to exactly be collusion,
    though... I think back to when the grocery stores all decided to
    drop the double (and triple) couponing at the same time... let
    one get wind of the plans, and they'll all follow suit... and it
    just looks like they agreed on it... <G>

    Yes, probably more 'overheards' than collusion: restaurant staff
    overhears something at a meeting, "hey Mildred! better redeem your
    coupons now!" Mildred's mentions it at her sister's, brother-in-law
    works for competition..... (Why Mildred's sister shops at her husband's competition.... <g>)



    Oh, and Richard said that even though they aren't open for
    business, the bulk of the stocking still gets done overnight at Wegmans....

    Which makes sense as no customers to "run over"!


    The Hy-Vee announcement was "all Quad City stores and Clinton".
    ...And there are stores on the Illinois side, also closing at midnight.
    The other possibility is that it might be a security issue...
    fewer people in the store, but maybe more of a chance that someone
    nefarious might come and cause problems....?
    That can happen at any time of the day or night!!
    True... but with more people in the store, more likely that
    things would be noticed and quickly dealt with....

    Or a big hostage situation!


    The Walgreens hours haven't seemed to have been changed, but then
    they're pharmacy, though still attached to a store. Drive through
    only?? Checking on-line implies the entire site is open.
    It's a smaller store anyway than the grocery/pharmacy/etc stores
    like HyVee and Wegmans, so maybe needs less security...?
    Possibly, or some of the money saved on payroll, lights, etc., at the closed stores goes to pay for security/additional security at the 24
    hour stores.
    That's assuming outside security, not store-paid security
    employees...

    I was thinking more internal/store-paid security: move security payroll
    from one store to another. No savings there but not paying for someone
    to run a register so some savings.


    I've never shopped at two in the morning but could see people working
    second shift shopping then.
    I've done it a time or two, but not a general practice to be sure.. :)
    I think it was after midnight one evening I stopped into the Wegmans
    to grab some food on my way home from the hospital when Richard was in
    there for his bypass...
    There are always some reasons to be shopping late at night/early
    morning even if not usually awake at that hour.
    Exactly... so it's good that there are still some stores open 24
    hours...

    Agree. People do get sick in the middle of the night, work second and
    third shifts, closed the bar and need a bag of pretzels....



    Sort of along similar lines I did fairly well at tutoring but I'd
    probably not do well at teaching ==> individual or a small group where
    can interact one-on-one vs. big group and generally loose
    individuality.
    You'd never know until you tried, though.... I had thought similarly,
    until I ended up having to actually teach a few classes at our
    genealogy meetings... and discovered I could still hold attention
    after all... checking reactions from certain key audience members can
    give the feedback that one generally gets from the one-on-one or
    small group... I still prefer the smaller settings, though... :)
    Yes, years back I had done some small groups and there were some
    people to watch for feedback while others were, well, not good for feedback. Not to be ignored, but not all that good for general
    guidance.
    Right. :) Keep eye contact, but look to others for signs of
    'you just lost me there'....

    Right: loose one or two and comment to see me for individual study. Or
    maybe a quick 'lab' to practice what we just learned and give the lost
    ones the hands-on lesson.


    One has to organize how one would be looking for the things, and
    by what makes sense to one's self... ;)
    Right. Various ways of filing and sorting aren't necessarily right
    nor wrong. Years ago when I got started with computer building the
    intent was to do it in the basement -- it can get very cold down there
    in the winter! Maybe almost 60, but need a light jacket to stay down
    there for any length of time.
    Especially as one gets older, and is more affected by cold... :)
    Nah: it's colder down there than it was! <g>
    Yeah, right.... ;)
    Umm, light jacket that's easy to wash over the regular clothes?
    Just so long as you don't need gloves that would hamper your
    work... <G>

    For some of the sorting it's easier to pick out the parts with tweezers
    or needle-nosed pliers! (I'm thinking #4 nuts and bolts, which are
    about the diameter of the lead in a pencil.)


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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Fri Mar 20 01:02:56 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 11-Mar-2020 08:45 <=-

    OK, thanks. Just thought it a bit odd Walmart, etc., did the midnight
    closings about the same time as Hy-Vee. Almost verifies my theory the
    various store managements meet in secret and agree on things. <jk>
    You never know... ;) Didn't have to exactly be collusion, though...
    I think back to when the grocery stores all decided to drop the double
    (and triple) couponing at the same time... let one get wind of the
    plans, and they'll all follow suit... and it just looks like they
    agreed on it... <G>
    Yes, probably more 'overheards' than collusion: restaurant staff
    overhears something at a meeting, "hey Mildred! better redeem your
    coupons now!" Mildred's mentions it at her sister's, brother-in-law
    works for competition..... (Why Mildred's sister shops at her
    husband's competition.... <g>)

    Might be as simple as one store announcing it as starting next week, and
    within 24 hours the other stores follow suit.... ;)

    Oh, and Richard said that even though they aren't open for business,
    the bulk of the stocking still gets done overnight at Wegmans....
    Which makes sense as no customers to "run over"!

    Yup, no customers does make the possibility of efficiency more likely.. ;)

    The Hy-Vee announcement was "all Quad City stores and Clinton".
    ...And there are stores on the Illinois side, also closing at midnight.
    The other possibility is that it might be a security issue...
    fewer people in the store, but maybe more of a chance that someone
    nefarious might come and cause problems....?
    That can happen at any time of the day or night!!
    True... but with more people in the store, more likely that things
    would be noticed and quickly dealt with....
    Or a big hostage situation!

    Enough people, and the bad guy would likely be overwhelmed and held for
    the law to take care of him.... ;)

    The Walgreens hours haven't seemed to have been changed, but then
    they're pharmacy, though still attached to a store. Drive through
    only?? Checking on-line implies the entire site is open.
    It's a smaller store anyway than the grocery/pharmacy/etc stores
    like HyVee and Wegmans, so maybe needs less security...?
    Possibly, or some of the money saved on payroll, lights, etc., at the
    closed stores goes to pay for security/additional security at the 24
    hour stores.
    That's assuming outside security, not store-paid security employees...
    I was thinking more internal/store-paid security: move security
    payroll from one store to another. No savings there but not paying for someone to run a register so some savings.

    Maybe......

    I've never shopped at two in the morning but could see people working
    second shift shopping then.
    I've done it a time or two, but not a general practice to be sure.. :)
    I think it was after midnight one evening I stopped into the Wegmans
    to grab some food on my way home from the hospital when Richard was in
    there for his bypass...
    There are always some reasons to be shopping late at night/early
    morning even if not usually awake at that hour.
    Exactly... so it's good that there are still some stores open 24
    hours...
    Agree. People do get sick in the middle of the night, work second and third shifts, closed the bar and need a bag of pretzels....

    Lots of decent reasons.... of course, now all the stores are going on
    shorter hours and blaming it on the coronavirus scare....

    Sort of along similar lines I did fairly well at tutoring but I'd
    probably not do well at teaching ==> individual or a small group where
    can interact one-on-one vs. big group and generally loose
    individuality.
    You'd never know until you tried, though.... I had thought similarly,
    until I ended up having to actually teach a few classes at our
    genealogy meetings... and discovered I could still hold attention
    after all... checking reactions from certain key audience members can
    give the feedback that one generally gets from the one-on-one or
    small group... I still prefer the smaller settings, though... :)
    Yes, years back I had done some small groups and there were some
    people to watch for feedback while others were, well, not good for
    feedback. Not to be ignored, but not all that good for general
    guidance.
    Right. :) Keep eye contact, but look to others for signs of 'you
    just lost me there'....
    Right: loose one or two and comment to see me for individual study.
    Or maybe a quick 'lab' to practice what we just learned and give the
    lost ones the hands-on lesson.

    Or just go over it again, slightly differently, possibly more clearly,
    and see if comprehension dawns.... ;)

    One has to organize how one would be looking for the things, and
    by what makes sense to one's self... ;)
    Right. Various ways of filing and sorting aren't necessarily right
    nor wrong. Years ago when I got started with computer building the
    intent was to do it in the basement -- it can get very cold down there
    in the winter! Maybe almost 60, but need a light jacket to stay down
    there for any length of time.
    Especially as one gets older, and is more affected by cold... :)
    Nah: it's colder down there than it was! <g>
    Yeah, right.... ;)
    Umm, light jacket that's easy to wash over the regular clothes?
    Just so long as you don't need gloves that would hamper your work... <G>
    For some of the sorting it's easier to pick out the parts with
    tweezers or needle-nosed pliers! (I'm thinking #4 nuts and bolts,
    which are about the diameter of the lead in a pencil.)

    Yup, those are tiny, all right... tools (and small ones at that) would
    be quite helpful in handling them.... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Fri Mar 20 08:31:00 2020


    Hi Nancy!

    OK, thanks. Just thought it a bit odd Walmart, etc., did the midnight
    closings about the same time as Hy-Vee. Almost verifies my theory the
    various store managements meet in secret and agree on things. <jk>
    You never know... ;) Didn't have to exactly be collusion, though...
    I think back to when the grocery stores all decided to drop the double
    (and triple) couponing at the same time... let one get wind of the
    plans, and they'll all follow suit... and it just looks like they
    agreed on it... <G>
    Yes, probably more 'overheards' than collusion: restaurant staff
    overhears something at a meeting, "hey Mildred! better redeem your
    coupons now!" Mildred's mentions it at her sister's, brother-in-law
    works for competition..... (Why Mildred's sister shops at her
    husband's competition.... <g>)
    Might be as simple as one store announcing it as starting next
    week, and within 24 hours the other stores follow suit.... ;)

    That could be. With the COVID-19 (coronavirus) events unfolding so
    rapidly now Hy-Vee is open 8 a.m. to 8 p.m., with 7 a.m. to 8 a.m. hours
    for senior citizens and others with health issues and other special requirments. Was chatting and found out there was a huge line and for
    some reason a police officer had been stationed at the entry to help
    maintain order. I didn't ask details like if there was a problem or
    on-duty vs. off-duty: partially because I didn't think to and mainly
    because who I was talking to didn't get there until after the fact.

    Most of the other stores and shops locally have curtailed hours to clean
    and restock. -- Oh yeah: Hy-Vee was out-out of toilet paper: not a
    single roll! Most of the tissues (Kleenex) as gone too. Not sure about
    paper towels.


    Oh, and Richard said that even though they aren't open for business,
    the bulk of the stocking still gets done overnight at Wegmans....
    Which makes sense as no customers to "run over"!
    Yup, no customers does make the possibility of efficiency more
    likely.. ;)

    Just a bit! <g> Can get sloppy while moving the old stock to put the
    new stock behind, plus no interruptions: some of the floor personnel
    will get paged to help ring registers or bag groceries.


    The Hy-Vee announcement was "all Quad City stores and Clinton".
    ...And there are stores on the Illinois side, also closing at midnight.
    The other possibility is that it might be a security issue...
    fewer people in the store, but maybe more of a chance that someone
    nefarious might come and cause problems....?
    That can happen at any time of the day or night!!
    True... but with more people in the store, more likely that things
    would be noticed and quickly dealt with....
    Or a big hostage situation!
    Enough people, and the bad guy would likely be overwhelmed and
    held for the law to take care of him.... ;)

    Hopefully!



    I've never shopped at two in the morning but could see people working
    second shift shopping then.
    I've done it a time or two, but not a general practice to be sure.. :)
    I think it was after midnight one evening I stopped into the Wegmans
    to grab some food on my way home from the hospital when Richard was in
    there for his bypass...
    There are always some reasons to be shopping late at night/early
    morning even if not usually awake at that hour.
    Exactly... so it's good that there are still some stores open 24
    hours...
    Agree. People do get sick in the middle of the night, work second and third shifts, closed the bar and need a bag of pretzels....
    Lots of decent reasons.... of course, now all the stores are
    going on shorter hours and blaming it on the coronavirus
    scare....

    <short chuckle> I have been wondering of some of the businesses will
    take this issue as an opportunity to go back to more reasonable hours.
    Before I retired my store had essentially no customers are 7:30 or 8
    p.m. -- they did finally start shutting at 8. ...Not saying all stores
    should shut at 8: should be up to local considerations. Chicago,
    Atlanta, Boston probably do the 24-hour thing. ...And to me the 'Mall
    hours' of opening at 10 didn't really make sense: opening at 9 seemed
    more logical. Oh well, will be interesting to see how the new normal
    turns out.


    Sort of along similar lines I did fairly well at tutoring but I'd
    probably not do well at teaching ==> individual or a small group where
    can interact one-on-one vs. big group and generally loose
    individuality.
    You'd never know until you tried, though.... I had thought similarly,
    until I ended up having to actually teach a few classes at our
    genealogy meetings... and discovered I could still hold attention
    after all... checking reactions from certain key audience members can
    give the feedback that one generally gets from the one-on-one or
    small group... I still prefer the smaller settings, though... :)
    Yes, years back I had done some small groups and there were some
    people to watch for feedback while others were, well, not good for
    feedback. Not to be ignored, but not all that good for general
    guidance.
    Right. :) Keep eye contact, but look to others for signs of 'you
    just lost me there'....
    Right: loose one or two and comment to see me for individual study.
    Or maybe a quick 'lab' to practice what we just learned and give the
    lost ones the hands-on lesson.
    Or just go over it again, slightly differently, possibly more
    clearly, and see if comprehension dawns.... ;)

    That was essentially my 'tutoring': started off as helping a friend.
    All I was doing was regurgitating what was said in class a couple hours earlier. Maybe the second time around, or saying it a different way, or
    the more casual environment (outside of the classroom)...

    Back to the actual teaching, yes, look for those glazed eyeballs which
    either mean the material is being presented too slowly (booooored!) or something isn't being understood and so need to go back.


    One has to organize how one would be looking for the things, and
    by what makes sense to one's self... ;)
    Right. Various ways of filing and sorting aren't necessarily right
    nor wrong. Years ago when I got started with computer building the
    intent was to do it in the basement -- it can get very cold down there
    in the winter! Maybe almost 60, but need a light jacket to stay down
    there for any length of time.
    Especially as one gets older, and is more affected by cold... :)
    Nah: it's colder down there than it was! <g>
    Yeah, right.... ;)
    Umm, light jacket that's easy to wash over the regular clothes?
    Just so long as you don't need gloves that would hamper your work... <G>
    For some of the sorting it's easier to pick out the parts with
    tweezers or needle-nosed pliers! (I'm thinking #4 nuts and bolts,
    which are about the diameter of the lead in a pencil.)
    Yup, those are tiny, all right... tools (and small ones at that)
    would be quite helpful in handling them.... :)

    I remember looking at some of the mechanics tool kits being sold at the
    store where I worked: to whole #4 bolt I was used to working with would
    fit in the socket of the tool kit!


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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Mon Mar 30 23:26:12 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 20-Mar-2020 08:31 <=-

    Yes, probably more 'overheards' than collusion: restaurant staff
    overhears something at a meeting, "hey Mildred! better redeem your
    coupons now!" Mildred's mentions it at her sister's, brother-in-law
    works for competition..... (Why Mildred's sister shops at her
    husband's competition.... <g>)
    Might be as simple as one store announcing it as starting next
    week, and within 24 hours the other stores follow suit.... ;)
    That could be. With the COVID-19 (coronavirus) events unfolding so rapidly now Hy-Vee is open 8 a.m. to 8 p.m., with 7 a.m. to 8 a.m.
    hours for senior citizens and others with health issues and other
    special requirements.

    Wegmans is 8am (maybe 6) to 10pm, and doesn't have any particular senior hours.... It wouldn't do us any good, anyway, as we aren't up that early
    anyhow if they followed the current thing of doing it before regular
    hours.... they did cut back a bit more...

    Was chatting and found out there was a huge line
    and for some reason a police officer had been stationed at the entry to help maintain order. I didn't ask details like if there was a problem
    or on-duty vs. off-duty: partially because I didn't think to and mainly because who I was talking to didn't get there until after the fact.

    So it was all hearsay anyway... Our store has had a police presence
    from before the current crisis, instead of or including the normal
    security... I've never been there when there was a problem, but it seems
    that there had been a troublemaker there a few times...

    Most of the other stores and shops locally have curtailed hours to
    clean and restock. -- Oh yeah: Hy-Vee was out-out of toilet paper: not
    a single roll! Most of the tissues (Kleenex) was gone too. Not sure about paper towels.

    That sounds about normal... ;0 We finally got a pile of TP back in the
    store, some off-brand with a fancy name... fortunately we aren't in any
    need of paper products at the moment.... ;)

    Oh, and Richard said that even though they aren't open for business,
    the bulk of the stocking still gets done overnight at Wegmans....
    Which makes sense as no customers to "run over"!
    Yup, no customers does make the possibility of efficiency more
    likely.. ;)
    Just a bit! <g> Can get sloppy while moving the old stock to put the
    new stock behind, plus no interruptions: some of the floor personnel
    will get paged to help ring registers or bag groceries.

    Or be called into service by some customer looking in vain for
    something... at Wegmans, their first priority is still to be customer service.... ;) If no customers there, that distraction is also
    removed... ;)

    I've never shopped at two in the morning but could see people working
    second shift shopping then.
    I've done it a time or two, but not a general practice to be sure.. :)
    I think it was after midnight one evening I stopped into the Wegmans
    to grab some food on my way home from the hospital when Richard was in
    there for his bypass...
    There are always some reasons to be shopping late at night/early
    morning even if not usually awake at that hour.
    Exactly... so it's good that there are still some stores open 24
    hours...
    Agree. People do get sick in the middle of the night, work second and
    third shifts, closed the bar and need a bag of pretzels....
    Lots of decent reasons.... of course, now all the stores are going
    on shorter hours and blaming it on the coronavirus scare....
    <short chuckle> I have been wondering of some of the businesses will
    take this issue as an opportunity to go back to more reasonable hours.

    Guess we'll have to wait and find out....

    Before I retired my store had essentially no customers after 7:30 or 8 p.m. -- they did finally start shutting at 8. ...Not saying all
    stores should shut at 8: should be up to local considerations.
    Chicago, Atlanta, Boston probably do the 24-hour thing. ...And to me
    the 'Mall hours' of opening at 10 didn't really make sense: opening at
    9 seemed more logical. Oh well, will be interesting to see how the new normal turns out.

    Lots of things probably go into that sort of decision....

    Sort of along similar lines I did fairly well at tutoring but I'd
    probably not do well at teaching ==> individual or a small group where
    can interact one-on-one vs. big group and generally loose
    individuality.
    You'd never know until you tried, though.... I had thought similarly,
    until I ended up having to actually teach a few classes at our
    genealogy meetings... and discovered I could still hold attention
    after all... checking reactions from certain key audience members can
    give the feedback that one generally gets from the one-on-one or
    small group... I still prefer the smaller settings, though... :)
    Yes, years back I had done some small groups and there were some
    people to watch for feedback while others were, well, not good for
    feedback. Not to be ignored, but not all that good for general
    guidance.
    Right. :) Keep eye contact, but look to others for signs of 'you
    just lost me there'....
    Right: loose one or two and comment to see me for individual study.
    Or maybe a quick 'lab' to practice what we just learned and give the
    lost ones the hands-on lesson.
    Or just go over it again, slightly differently, possibly more clearly,
    and see if comprehension dawns.... ;)
    That was essentially my 'tutoring': started off as helping a friend.
    All I was doing was regurgitating what was said in class a couple
    hours earlier. Maybe the second time around, or saying it a different way, or the more casual environment (outside of the classroom)...
    Back to the actual teaching, yes, look for those glazed eyeballs which either mean the material is being presented too slowly (booooored!) or something isn't being understood and so need to go back.

    Probably best to have a couple of people in the audience that are good indicators of how one is doing, and just gauge their response... ;)

    Umm, light jacket that's easy to wash over the regular clothes?
    Just so long as you don't need gloves that would hamper your work... <G>
    For some of the sorting it's easier to pick out the parts with
    tweezers or needle-nosed pliers! (I'm thinking #4 nuts and bolts,
    which are about the diameter of the lead in a pencil.)
    Yup, those are tiny, all right... tools (and small ones at that)
    would be quite helpful in handling them.... :)
    I remember looking at some of the mechanics tool kits being sold at
    the store where I worked: to whole #4 bolt I was used to working with would fit in the socket of the tool kit!

    Quite the difference in scale... <G>

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Tue Mar 31 10:29:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    Yes, probably more 'overheards' than collusion: restaurant staff
    overhears something at a meeting, "hey Mildred! better redeem your
    coupons now!" Mildred's mentions it at her sister's, brother-in-law
    works for competition..... (Why Mildred's sister shops at her
    husband's competition.... <g>)
    Might be as simple as one store announcing it as starting next
    week, and within 24 hours the other stores follow suit.... ;)
    That could be. With the COVID-19 (coronavirus) events unfolding so rapidly now Hy-Vee is open 8 a.m. to 8 p.m., with 7 a.m. to 8 a.m.
    hours for senior citizens and others with health issues and other
    special requirements.
    Wegmans is 8am (maybe 6) to 10pm, and doesn't have any particular
    senior hours.... It wouldn't do us any good, anyway, as we aren't
    up that early anyhow if they followed the current thing of doing
    it before regular hours.... they did cut back a bit more...

    I don't have any desire to get up earlier just to go shopping either.
    Not saying it's wrong, just not for me. If I had greater concerns I'd
    probably have a different opinion.

    And speaking on concerns, there was an segment on the local news about
    the walkout of some Amazon warehouse employees in New York. Most of the
    ones picketing outside are wearing masks (protective, not to hide face).
    One that ws interviewed had the nack over the mouth but just under her
    nose: could clearly see her nostrils! One generally breaths through
    their nose more than their mouth! So the mask was doing little good.



    Was chatting and found out there was a huge line
    and for some reason a police officer had been stationed at the entry to help maintain order. I didn't ask details like if there was a problem
    or on-duty vs. off-duty: partially because I didn't think to and mainly because who I was talking to didn't get there until after the fact.
    So it was all hearsay anyway... Our store has had a police
    presence from before the current crisis, instead of or including
    the normal security... I've never been there when there was a
    problem, but it seems that there had been a troublemaker there a
    few times...

    If someone was potentially going to make a sufficient problem it would
    be a good idea to have at least some additional protection. May cost
    but in the long term could save money.

    I think the police deal at HyVee was just to maintain order: maybe keep
    those not in the special categories from entering (the same who go
    through the ten-items-or-less lane with an overflowing cart).


    Most of the other stores and shops locally have curtailed hours to
    clean and restock. -- Oh yeah: Hy-Vee was out-out of toilet paper: not
    a single roll! Most of the tissues (Kleenex) was gone too. Not sure about paper towels.
    That sounds about normal... ;0 We finally got a pile of TP back
    in the store, some off-brand with a fancy name... fortunately we
    aren't in any need of paper products at the moment.... ;)

    Anything would be better thana nothing! I might have picked up a
    roll/package to have as a spare: not stockpiling but 'reasonable
    spares', and if someone I knew was running out here's a present!


    Oh, and Richard said that even though they aren't open for business,
    the bulk of the stocking still gets done overnight at Wegmans....
    Which makes sense as no customers to "run over"!
    Yup, no customers does make the possibility of efficiency more
    likely.. ;)
    Just a bit! <g> Can get sloppy while moving the old stock to put the
    new stock behind, plus no interruptions: some of the floor personnel
    will get paged to help ring registers or bag groceries.
    Or be called into service by some customer looking in vain for something... at Wegmans, their first priority is still to be
    customer service.... ;) If no customers there, that distraction
    is also removed... ;)

    True! And my store has the added distraction/complication of undergoing remodeling -- it's getting there! I'm sort of hoping some of the
    current placement is still temporary.


    I've never shopped at two in the morning but could see people working
    second shift shopping then.
    I've done it a time or two, but not a general practice to be sure.. :)
    I think it was after midnight one evening I stopped into the Wegmans
    to grab some food on my way home from the hospital when Richard was in
    there for his bypass...
    There are always some reasons to be shopping late at night/early
    morning even if not usually awake at that hour.
    Exactly... so it's good that there are still some stores open 24
    hours...
    Agree. People do get sick in the middle of the night, work second and
    third shifts, closed the bar and need a bag of pretzels....
    Lots of decent reasons.... of course, now all the stores are going
    on shorter hours and blaming it on the coronavirus scare....
    <short chuckle> I have been wondering of some of the businesses will
    take this issue as an opportunity to go back to more reasonable hours.
    Guess we'll have to wait and find out....

    Yup. "It will be interesting" - a lot of businesses have found their
    people can do some/all of their work at home and so possibly will take as
    an opportunity to scale back the on-site offices, which means less
    lighting, heating/cooling, and parking (!). Of course those cutbacks
    can create other issues: power company sells less commercial-priced gas
    and electricity, cities have less commercial land to tax. ...Might make
    a difference the immediate future but I'm thinking more than likely the
    space will not be wasted rather to be converted for a different
    commercial use.


    Before I retired my store had essentially no customers after 7:30 or 8 p.m. -- they did finally start shutting at 8. ...Not saying all
    stores should shut at 8: should be up to local considerations.
    Chicago, Atlanta, Boston probably do the 24-hour thing. ...And to me
    the 'Mall hours' of opening at 10 didn't really make sense: opening at
    9 seemed more logical. Oh well, will be interesting to see how the new normal turns out.
    Lots of things probably go into that sort of decision....

    Things will be interesting!


    That was essentially my 'tutoring': started off as helping a friend.
    All I was doing was regurgitating what was said in class a couple
    hours earlier. Maybe the second time around, or saying it a different way, or the more casual environment (outside of the classroom)...
    Back to the actual teaching, yes, look for those glazed eyeballs which either mean the material is being presented too slowly (booooored!) or something isn't being understood and so need to go back.
    Probably best to have a couple of people in the audience that are
    good indicators of how one is doing, and just gauge their
    response... ;)

    Right - "play by ear", or eyeballs, though if one hears yawns.....



    Umm, light jacket that's easy to wash over the regular clothes?
    Just so long as you don't need gloves that would hamper your work...
    <G> BM>> For some of the sorting it's easier to pick out the parts with
    tweezers or needle-nosed pliers! (I'm thinking #4 nuts and bolts,
    which are about the diameter of the lead in a pencil.)
    Yup, those are tiny, all right... tools (and small ones at that)
    would be quite helpful in handling them.... :)
    I remember looking at some of the mechanics tool kits being sold at
    the store where I worked: to whole #4 bolt I was used to working with would fit in the socket of the tool kit!
    Quite the difference in scale... <G>

    Just a bit! My spare nuts and bolts hardware is of the smaller scale
    just because of what I generally use, though it is kind of wierd when
    looking at a (to me) huge bolt and the parts are larger than the entire
    unit I'm used to.


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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Wed Apr 8 22:54:10 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 31-Mar-2020 10:29 <=-

    Might be as simple as one store announcing it as starting next
    week, and within 24 hours the other stores follow suit.... ;)
    That could be. With the COVID-19 (coronavirus) events unfolding so
    rapidly now Hy-Vee is open 8 a.m. to 8 p.m., with 7 a.m. to 8 a.m.
    hours for senior citizens and others with health issues and other
    special requirements.
    Wegmans is 8am (maybe 6) to 10pm, and doesn't have any particular
    senior hours.... It wouldn't do us any good, anyway, as we aren't
    up that early anyhow if they followed the current thing of doing
    it before regular hours.... they did cut back a bit more...
    I don't have any desire to get up earlier just to go shopping either.
    Not saying it's wrong, just not for me. If I had greater concerns I'd probably have a different opinion.

    Wegmans decided against the special hours for a number of reasons,
    mostly because they felt that it would tend to concentrate those at
    highest risk together, and therefore be less safe, not more safe....

    And speaking on concerns, there was an segment on the local news about
    the walkout of some Amazon warehouse employees in New York. Most of
    the ones picketing outside are wearing masks (protective, not to hide face). One that ws interviewed had the nack over the mouth but just
    under her nose: could clearly see her nostrils! One generally breathes through their nose more than their mouth! So the mask was doing little good.

    I did't see (or hear about) that... but I'm not surprised... a lot of
    people aren't wearing it properly to begin with, and it isn't as
    protective as they think it is.... in many ways it's more of a
    talisman... Richard says he might as well be pinning a rabbit's foot to
    his shirt pocket... <G>

    Was chatting and found out there was a huge line
    and for some reason a police officer had been stationed at the entry to
    help maintain order. I didn't ask details like if there was a problem
    or on-duty vs. off-duty: partially because I didn't think to and mainly
    because who I was talking to didn't get there until after the fact.
    So it was all hearsay anyway... Our store has had a police presence
    from before the current crisis, instead of or including the normal
    security... I've never been there when there was a problem, but it
    seems that there had been a troublemaker there a few times...
    If someone was potentially going to make a sufficient problem it would
    be a good idea to have at least some additional protection. May cost
    but in the long term could save money.

    I think the town supplies the police officer as part of the town
    services, no extra cost to the store....

    I think the police deal at HyVee was just to maintain order: maybe
    keep those not in the special categories from entering (the same who go through the ten-items-or-less lane with an overflowing cart).

    Could be.... sometimes the mere presence is enough to keep people in
    line... :)

    Most of the other stores and shops locally have curtailed hours to
    clean and restock. -- Oh yeah: Hy-Vee was out-out of toilet paper: not
    a single roll! Most of the tissues (Kleenex) was gone too. Not sure
    about paper towels.
    That sounds about normal... ;0 We finally got a pile of TP back in the
    store, some off-brand with a fancy name... fortunately we aren't in any
    need of paper products at the moment.... ;)
    Anything would be better than nothing! I might have picked up a roll/package to have as a spare: not stockpiling but 'reasonable
    spares', and if someone I knew was running out here's a present!

    Before all this had started, we'd already had a stockpile, only because
    we'd bought large packs of toilet paper and paper towels when they were
    on sale, as we always do.... so we had a 36 roll package of TP from BJ's
    (which we still haven't opened, since we were finishing up the last one
    still, but $3 off on the TP and an additional 10 cents per gallon off on
    gas at BJ's gas was just too much to pass up), and a 12 roll package of
    Wegmans paper towels that we'd bought maybe 6 months ago and have taken
    2 rolls out of... Those should well last us well beyond the crisis... :)

    Yup, no customers does make the possibility of efficiency more
    likely.. ;)
    Just a bit! <g> Can get sloppy while moving the old stock to put the
    new stock behind, plus no interruptions: some of the floor personnel
    will get paged to help ring registers or bag groceries.
    Or be called into service by some customer looking in vain for
    something... at Wegmans, their first priority is still to be customer
    service.... ;) If no customers there, that distraction is also
    removed... ;)
    True! And my store has the added distraction/complication of
    undergoing remodeling -- it's getting there! I'm sort of hoping some
    of the current placement is still temporary.

    Do I detect a bit of dislike for some of the current placement...? ;)

    <short chuckle> I have been wondering of some of the businesses will
    take this issue as an opportunity to go back to more reasonable hours.
    Guess we'll have to wait and find out....
    Yup. "It will be interesting" - a lot of businesses have found their people can do some/all of their work at home and so possibly will take
    as an opportunity to scale back the on-site offices, which means less lighting, heating/cooling, and parking (!). Of course those cutbacks
    can create other issues: power company sells less commercial-priced
    gas and electricity, cities have less commercial land to tax. ...Might make a difference the immediate future but I'm thinking more than
    likely the space will not be wasted rather to be converted for a
    different commercial use.

    How it actually works out indeed might be interesting... I'd guess that
    having people have to work from home may also point up some aspects
    where being at the worksite actually is more beneficial after all... :)

    That was essentially my 'tutoring': started off as helping a friend.
    All I was doing was regurgitating what was said in class a couple
    hours earlier. Maybe the second time around, or saying it a different
    way, or the more casual environment (outside of the classroom)...
    Back to the actual teaching, yes, look for those glazed eyeballs which
    either mean the material is being presented too slowly (booooored!) or
    something isn't being understood and so need to go back.
    Probably best to have a couple of people in the audience that are good
    indicators of how one is doing, and just gauge their response... ;)
    Right - "play by ear", or eyeballs, though if one hears yawns.....

    True... yawns might be a bad sign.... <G>

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Thu Apr 9 08:12:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    Might be as simple as one store announcing it as starting next
    week, and within 24 hours the other stores follow suit.... ;)
    That could be. With the COVID-19 (coronavirus) events unfolding so
    rapidly now Hy-Vee is open 8 a.m. to 8 p.m., with 7 a.m. to 8 a.m.
    hours for senior citizens and others with health issues and other
    special requirements.
    Wegmans is 8am (maybe 6) to 10pm, and doesn't have any particular
    senior hours.... It wouldn't do us any good, anyway, as we aren't
    up that early anyhow if they followed the current thing of doing
    it before regular hours.... they did cut back a bit more...
    I don't have any desire to get up earlier just to go shopping either.
    Not saying it's wrong, just not for me. If I had greater concerns I'd probably have a different opinion.
    Wegmans decided against the special hours for a number of
    reasons, mostly because they felt that it would tend to
    concentrate those at highest risk together, and therefore be less
    safe, not more safe....

    Makes sense. If someone around who is infected and improper safety is
    taken by the infected person and others then the sickness can more
    easily regardless of the time of day. Doesn't matter which sickness,
    though currently COVID-19 is in the spotlight.


    And speaking on concerns, there was an segment on the local news about
    the walkout of some Amazon warehouse employees in New York. Most of
    the ones picketing outside are wearing masks (protective, not to hide face). One that ws interviewed had the nack over the mouth but just
    under her nose: could clearly see her nostrils! One generally breathes through their nose more than their mouth! So the mask was doing little good.
    I did't see (or hear about) that... but I'm not surprised... a
    lot of people aren't wearing it properly to begin with, and it
    isn't as protective as they think it is.... in many ways it's
    more of a talisman... Richard says he might as well be pinning a
    rabbit's foot to his shirt pocket... <G>

    Right!! Can wear the best mask possible but if touch contaminated
    fingers to the eyes.... My Mother is wearing some sort of mask: said
    she created it out of a head covering she got from a surgery (cataract?
    I don't recall). Folded a couple of times and I'm not sure how she
    secured. Staying away from people anyway, but when at a grocery store not always possible. Gives her confidence when going out into the world.


    Was chatting and found out there was a huge line
    and for some reason a police officer had been stationed at the entry to
    help maintain order. I didn't ask details like if there was a problem
    or on-duty vs. off-duty: partially because I didn't think to and mainly
    because who I was talking to didn't get there until after the fact.
    So it was all hearsay anyway... Our store has had a police presence
    from before the current crisis, instead of or including the normal
    security... I've never been there when there was a problem, but it
    seems that there had been a troublemaker there a few times...
    If someone was potentially going to make a sufficient problem it would
    be a good idea to have at least some additional protection. May cost
    but in the long term could save money.
    I think the town supplies the police officer as part of the town
    services, no extra cost to the store....

    OK. Know the Mall hired off-duty police officers but that's different.


    I think the police deal at HyVee was just to maintain order: maybe
    keep those not in the special categories from entering (the same who go through the ten-items-or-less lane with an overflowing cart).
    Could be.... sometimes the mere presence is enough to keep people
    in line... :)

    Right.


    Most of the other stores and shops locally have curtailed hours to
    clean and restock. -- Oh yeah: Hy-Vee was out-out of toilet paper: not
    a single roll! Most of the tissues (Kleenex) was gone too. Not sure
    about paper towels.
    That sounds about normal... ;0 We finally got a pile of TP back in the
    store, some off-brand with a fancy name... fortunately we aren't in any
    need of paper products at the moment.... ;)
    Anything would be better than nothing! I might have picked up a roll/package to have as a spare: not stockpiling but 'reasonable
    spares', and if someone I knew was running out here's a present!
    Before all this had started, we'd already had a stockpile, only
    because we'd bought large packs of toilet paper and paper towels
    when they were on sale, as we always do.... so we had a 36 roll
    package of TP from BJ's (which we still haven't opened, since we
    were finishing up the last one still, but $3 off on the TP and an additional 10 cents per gallon off on gas at BJ's gas was just
    too much to pass up), and a 12 roll package of Wegmans paper
    towels that we'd bought maybe 6 months ago and have taken 2 rolls
    out of... Those should well last us well beyond the crisis... :)

    Unless a nasty case if diarrhea!! (I knowww: go to your room!) Yes,
    gpood deal on $3 off. If one has the storage may as well buy when on
    sale and/or perks; we do the same here -- we go 'shopping downstairs'
    where stuff is stored in the basement. I did that when living in my apartment. Not too much extra space but I did use the open space under
    the bathroom counter -- not the space under the sink but the open space
    where a woman could sit to apply makeup.


    True! And my store has the added distraction/complication of
    undergoing remodeling -- it's getting there! I'm sort of hoping some
    of the current placement is still temporary.
    Do I detect a bit of dislike for some of the current
    placement...? ;)

    Just a little!


    <short chuckle> I have been wondering of some of the businesses will
    take this issue as an opportunity to go back to more reasonable hours.
    Guess we'll have to wait and find out....
    Yup. "It will be interesting" - a lot of businesses have found their people can do some/all of their work at home and so possibly will take
    as an opportunity to scale back the on-site offices, which means less lighting, heating/cooling, and parking (!). Of course those cutbacks
    can create other issues: power company sells less commercial-priced
    gas and electricity, cities have less commercial land to tax. ...Might make a difference the immediate future but I'm thinking more than
    likely the space will not be wasted rather to be converted for a
    different commercial use.
    How it actually works out indeed might be interesting... I'd
    guess that having people have to work from home may also point up
    some aspects where being at the worksite actually is more
    beneficial after all... :)

    That's true! Little things like the walk to the supply room for printer
    paper, bigger things like the copier. And everyone in one place for a meeting, or when answering the phone to see the person needed to get the
    call is at their desk.

    OTOH it wil take away from fun little quirkie things like when the
    weatherman was doing his weather teaser from home and he sees his dog
    come in the room -- he commented a happy 'oh-oh!' and then we hear his
    dog happily barking in the background!



    That was essentially my 'tutoring': started off as helping a friend.
    All I was doing was regurgitating what was said in class a couple
    hours earlier. Maybe the second time around, or saying it a different
    way, or the more casual environment (outside of the classroom)...
    Back to the actual teaching, yes, look for those glazed eyeballs which
    either mean the material is being presented too slowly (booooored!) or
    something isn't being understood and so need to go back.
    Probably best to have a couple of people in the audience that are good
    indicators of how one is doing, and just gauge their response... ;)
    Right - "play by ear", or eyeballs, though if one hears yawns.....
    True... yawns might be a bad sign.... <G>

    Outright snoring even worse!



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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Sun Apr 19 17:03:18 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 09-Apr-2020 08:12 <=-

    Wegmans is 8am (maybe 6) to 10pm, and doesn't have any particular
    senior hours.... It wouldn't do us any good, anyway, as we aren't
    up that early anyhow if they followed the current thing of doing
    it before regular hours.... they did cut back a bit more...
    I don't have any desire to get up earlier just to go shopping either.
    Not saying it's wrong, just not for me. If I had greater concerns I'd
    probably have a different opinion.
    Wegmans decided against the special hours for a number of reasons,
    mostly because they felt that it would tend to concentrate those at
    highest risk together, and therefore be less safe, not more safe....
    Makes sense. If someone around who is infected and improper safety is taken by the infected person and others then the sickness can move
    easily regardless of the time of day. Doesn't matter which sickness, though currently COVID-19 is in the spotlight.

    Exactly... .:)

    And speaking on concerns, there was an segment on the local news about
    the walkout of some Amazon warehouse employees in New York. Most of
    the ones picketing outside are wearing masks (protective, not to hide
    face). One that was interviewed had the nack over the mouth but just
    under her nose: could clearly see her nostrils! One generally breathes
    through their nose more than their mouth! So the mask was doing little
    good.
    I did't see (or hear about) that... but I'm not surprised... a lot of
    people aren't wearing it properly to begin with, and it isn't as
    protective as they think it is.... in many ways it's more of a
    talisman... Richard says he might as well be pinning a rabbit's foot
    to his shirt pocket... <G>
    Right!! Can wear the best mask possible but if touch contaminated
    fingers to the eyes.... My Mother is wearing some sort of mask: said
    she created it out of a head covering she got from a surgery
    (cataract? I don't recall). Folded a couple of times and I'm not sure
    how she secured. Staying away from people anyway, but when at a
    grocery store not always possible. Gives her confidence when going out into the world.

    And the latest executive order from our governor mandates masks for all
    in public where social distancing might be an issue.... it's still
    voluntary compliance, but this does raise the ante.... Mass transport,
    for-hire vehicles and stores are specifically mentioned...

    Our store has had a police presence
    from before the current crisis, instead of or including the normal
    security... I've never been there when there was a problem, but it
    seems that there had been a troublemaker there a few times...
    If someone was potentially going to make a sufficient problem it would
    be a good idea to have at least some additional protection. May cost
    but in the long term could save money.
    I think the town supplies the police officer as part of the town
    services, no extra cost to the store....
    OK. Know the Mall hired off-duty police officers but that's
    different.

    Yes, that would be different... these are on-duty in uniform officers...

    Before all this had started, we'd already had a stockpile, only
    because we'd bought large packs of toilet paper and paper towels when
    they were on sale, as we always do.... so we had a 36 roll package of
    TP from BJ's (which we still haven't opened, since we were finishing
    up the last one still, but $3 off on the TP and an additional 10
    cents per gallon off on gas at BJ's gas was just too much to pass
    up), and a 12 roll package of Wegmans paper towels that we'd bought
    maybe 6 months ago and have taken 2 rolls out of... Those should well
    last us well beyond the crisis... :)
    Unless a nasty case if diarrhea!! (I knowww: go to your room!)

    In that case, we'd likely be using something reusable, and toss it into
    the wash... doesn't last long anyway... ;>

    Yes, good deal on $3 off. If one has the storage may as well buy when
    on sale and/or perks; we do the same here -- we go 'shopping
    downstairs' where stuff is stored in the basement. I did that when
    living in my apartment. Not too much extra space but I did use the
    open space under the bathroom counter -- not the space under the sink
    but the open space where a woman could sit to apply makeup.

    Sometimes one does have to be a little creative with storing stuff.... ;)

    True! And my store has the added distraction/complication of
    undergoing remodeling -- it's getting there! I'm sort of hoping some
    of the current placement is still temporary.
    Do I detect a bit of dislike for some of the current placement...? ;)
    Just a little!

    Then hopefully things will eventually move to someplace more to your
    liking... ;)

    Yup. "It will be interesting" - a lot of businesses have found their
    people can do some/all of their work at home and so possibly will take
    as an opportunity to scale back the on-site offices, which means less
    lighting, heating/cooling, and parking (!). Of course those cutbacks
    can create other issues: power company sells less commercial-priced
    gas and electricity, cities have less commercial land to tax. ...Might
    make a difference the immediate future but I'm thinking more than
    likely the space will not be wasted rather to be converted for a
    different commercial use.
    How it actually works out indeed might be interesting... I'd guess
    that having people have to work from home may also point up some
    aspects where being at the worksite actually is more beneficial
    after all... :)
    That's true! Little things like the walk to the supply room for
    printer paper, bigger things like the copier. And everyone in one
    place for a meeting, or when answering the phone to see the person
    needed to get the call is at their desk.

    Yup.... one doesn't even think about that sort of thing until one isn't
    in a position to just do the customary... ;)

    OTOH it will take away from fun little quirkie things like when the weatherman was doing his weather teaser from home and he sees his dog
    come in the room -- he commented a happy 'oh-oh!' and then we hear his
    dog happily barking in the background!

    Or the kid running in, not realizing Mommy is "on the air".... ;) I
    heard what sounded like that in the background of the main guest for an
    AARP telephone town hall meeting Friday....

    Back to the actual teaching, yes, look for those glazed eyeballs which
    either mean the material is being presented too slowly (booooored!) or
    something isn't being understood and so need to go back.
    Probably best to have a couple of people in the audience that are good
    indicators of how one is doing, and just gauge their response... ;)
    Right - "play by ear", or eyeballs, though if one hears yawns.....
    True... yawns might be a bad sign.... <G>
    Outright snoring even worse!

    Indeed... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Mon Apr 20 10:35:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    Wegmans is 8am (maybe 6) to 10pm, and doesn't have any particular
    senior hours.... It wouldn't do us any good, anyway, as we aren't
    up that early anyhow if they followed the current thing of doing
    it before regular hours.... they did cut back a bit more...
    I don't have any desire to get up earlier just to go shopping either.
    Not saying it's wrong, just not for me. If I had greater concerns I'd
    probably have a different opinion.
    Wegmans decided against the special hours for a number of reasons,
    mostly because they felt that it would tend to concentrate those at
    highest risk together, and therefore be less safe, not more safe....
    Makes sense. If someone around who is infected and improper safety is taken by the infected person and others then the sickness can move
    easily regardless of the time of day. Doesn't matter which sickness, though currently COVID-19 is in the spotlight.
    Exactly... .:)

    LIS some times back, the COVID-19 issues end up having the positive
    effect of people being more mindful of health issues. Glancing at the
    sink does not equate washing ones hands. Coughing/sneezing into the air
    may be easier for that person but can be unhealthy for the surrounding
    people. (Ask anyone in retail!)

    There may be other positive effects: might be easier to take time off if
    one is sick - factory, office, etc. General thought was come to work
    unless you're dead. Maybe now will change to if you're sick stay home.


    And speaking on concerns, there was an segment on the local news about
    the walkout of some Amazon warehouse employees in New York. Most of
    the ones picketing outside are wearing masks (protective, not to hide
    face). One that was interviewed had the nack over the mouth but just
    under her nose: could clearly see her nostrils! One generally breathes
    through their nose more than their mouth! So the mask was doing little
    good.
    I did't see (or hear about) that... but I'm not surprised... a lot of
    people aren't wearing it properly to begin with, and it isn't as
    protective as they think it is.... in many ways it's more of a
    talisman... Richard says he might as well be pinning a rabbit's foot
    to his shirt pocket... <G>
    Right!! Can wear the best mask possible but if touch contaminated
    fingers to the eyes.... My Mother is wearing some sort of mask: said
    she created it out of a head covering she got from a surgery
    (cataract? I don't recall). Folded a couple of times and I'm not sure
    how she secured. Staying away from people anyway, but when at a
    grocery store not always possible. Gives her confidence when going out into the world.
    And the latest executive order from our governor mandates masks
    for all in public where social distancing might be an issue....
    it's still voluntary compliance, but this does raise the ante....
    Mass transport, for-hire vehicles and stores are specifically
    mentioned...

    Makes sense. (I initially interpreted 'Mass transport' as the one in Massachusetts -- well, MA is next to NY, plus heard on the news when I
    was in NH!) Masks, properly fitting and worn, will trap much of the aerosol-ized exhaled breath vapor the viruses are hitchhiking on, plus
    block most from being inhaled, especially in close-quarters and whjere
    not much movement. Was reading where with normal walking there is
    enough pushing aside of small particles suspended in the air so one
    doesn't inhale.



    Before all this had started, we'd already had a stockpile, only
    because we'd bought large packs of toilet paper and paper towels when
    they were on sale, as we always do.... so we had a 36 roll package of
    TP from BJ's (which we still haven't opened, since we were finishing
    up the last one still, but $3 off on the TP and an additional 10
    cents per gallon off on gas at BJ's gas was just too much to pass
    up), and a 12 roll package of Wegmans paper towels that we'd bought
    maybe 6 months ago and have taken 2 rolls out of... Those should well
    last us well beyond the crisis... :)
    Unless a nasty case if diarrhea!! (I knowww: go to your room!)
    In that case, we'd likely be using something reusable, and toss
    it into the wash... doesn't last long anyway... ;>

    We stick with the toilet paper and "any go troubles down the drain!".



    Yes, good deal on $3 off. If one has the storage may as well buy when
    on sale and/or perks; we do the same here -- we go 'shopping
    downstairs' where stuff is stored in the basement. I did that when
    living in my apartment. Not too much extra space but I did use the
    open space under the bathroom counter -- not the space under the sink
    but the open space where a woman could sit to apply makeup.
    Sometimes one does have to be a little creative with storing
    stuff.... ;)

    Yes. Actually a lot can be stored under there, or at least in my
    apartment. Here at the house don't have that option.



    True! And my store has the added distraction/complication of
    undergoing remodeling -- it's getting there! I'm sort of hoping some
    of the current placement is still temporary.
    Do I detect a bit of dislike for some of the current placement...? ;)
    Just a little!
    Then hopefully things will eventually move to someplace more to
    your liking... ;)

    They haven't asked my opinion yet! <g> Was also "complaining" during a chit-chat with one of the employees just as I start to get used to the
    new layout they put this one-way traffic rule in.


    Yup. "It will be interesting" - a lot of businesses have found their
    people can do some/all of their work at home and so possibly will take
    as an opportunity to scale back the on-site offices, which means less
    lighting, heating/cooling, and parking (!). Of course those cutbacks
    can create other issues: power company sells less commercial-priced
    gas and electricity, cities have less commercial land to tax. ...Might
    make a difference the immediate future but I'm thinking more than
    likely the space will not be wasted rather to be converted for a
    different commercial use.
    How it actually works out indeed might be interesting... I'd guess
    that having people have to work from home may also point up some
    aspects where being at the worksite actually is more beneficial
    after all... :)
    That's true! Little things like the walk to the supply room for
    printer paper, bigger things like the copier. And everyone in one
    place for a meeting, or when answering the phone to see the person
    needed to get the call is at their desk.
    Yup.... one doesn't even think about that sort of thing until one
    isn't in a position to just do the customary... ;)

    Right: was 'normal' to go to work, supplies were there, though
    sometimes the next cubicle stole your stapler, now it's the kids! <g>

    Of course depends on what the job function is. Retail can't be at home
    to stock the shelves. OTOH might have been found it isn't necessary to
    be open until ten p.m. LIS a few messages ago, I'm thinking some of the work-at-home will continue, maybe as an expansion of flex hours
    (everyone had to be on-site from 10 to 1, or Tuesday, Thursday and
    Friday).


    OTOH it will take away from fun little quirkie things like when the weatherman was doing his weather teaser from home and he sees his dog
    come in the room -- he commented a happy 'oh-oh!' and then we hear his
    dog happily barking in the background!
    Or the kid running in, not realizing Mommy is "on the air".... ;)
    I heard what sounded like that in the background of the main
    guest for an AARP telephone town hall meeting Friday....

    <chuckle> Uh-huh!! ...This morning the iRobot (she meant the
    Siri/Alexa device) alarmed and started speaking in the background during
    one of the news anchor's segments.



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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to BARRY MARTIN on Thu Apr 23 11:48:00 2020
    Barry,

    There may be other positive effects: might be easier to take time off if BM>one is sick - factory, office, etc. General thought was come to work BM>unless you're dead. Maybe now will change to if you're sick stay home.

    But, you have to give 2 weeks notice of your death, to train your replacement. :P

    Unless a nasty case if diarrhea!! (I knowww: go to your room!)
    In that case, we'd likely be using something reusable, and toss
    it into the wash... doesn't last long anyway... ;>

    We stick with the toilet paper and "any go troubles down the drain!".

    That's why I'm glad I have Depends...I just throw in the trash, when I
    have the instance of "OMG!! That Wasn't A Fart!!" :P

    <chuckle> Uh-huh!! ...This morning the iRobot (she meant the
    Siri/Alexa device) alarmed and started speaking in the background during BM>one of the news anchor's segments.

    I don't even have either of those.

    ... Please note: "typo" is not a blood type!

    My blood type is "red". <G>

    Daryl

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Fri Apr 24 12:30:00 2020

    Hi Daryl!

    There may be other positive effects: might be easier to take time off if
    one is sick - factory, office, etc. General thought was come to work
    unless you're dead. Maybe now will change to if you're sick stay home.
    But, you have to give 2 weeks notice of your death, to train
    your replacement. :P

    Ha-ha! I retired first!


    Unless a nasty case if diarrhea!! (I knowww: go to your room!)
    In that case, we'd likely be using something reusable, and toss
    it into the wash... doesn't last long anyway... ;>
    We stick with the toilet paper and "any go troubles down the drain!".
    That's why I'm glad I have Depends...I just throw in the trash,
    when I have the instance of "OMG!! That Wasn't A Fart!!" :P

    Wasn't it Bob Dole: "Boxers or briefs?!" "Depends!" (At least he
    didn't respond 'thong'! That would have been a strain!!)


    <chuckle> Uh-huh!! ...This morning the iRobot (she meant the
    Siri/Alexa device) alarmed and started speaking in the background during
    one of the news anchor's segments.
    I don't even have either of those.

    I don't either. Around here the poor thing would probably get all
    confused: Dean Martin ins singing about "Ain't That a Kick in the Head":
    ow! ouch! Stop it!!

    Hmm: James Last _Orange Blossom Special_ ==> "All aboard!" Get off you kinky.....!!


    ... Please note: "typo" is not a blood type!
    My blood type is "red". <G>

    My blood type is 'internal'!



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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Wed Apr 29 19:24:32 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 20-Apr-2020 10:35 <=-

    Wegmans decided against the special hours for a number of reasons,
    mostly because they felt that it would tend to concentrate those at
    highest risk together, and therefore be less safe, not more safe....
    Makes sense. If someone around who is infected and improper safety is
    taken by the infected person and others then the sickness can move
    easily regardless of the time of day. Doesn't matter which sickness,
    though currently COVID-19 is in the spotlight.
    Exactly... .:)
    LIS some time back, the COVID-19 issues may end up having the positive effect of people being more mindful of health issues. Glancing at the sink does not equate washing ones hands. Coughing/sneezing into the
    air may be easier for that person but can be unhealthy for the
    surrounding people. (Ask anyone in retail!)

    For sure... :) Some of that is merely good health sense... The negative
    is in the what may be overkill reactions to dealing with it, at least in
    the long term, of the social distancing and isolations and even masks
    and gloves.... Hopefully the restrictions will be all lifted when the
    crisis is over, leaving just the reasonable health responses... :)

    There may be other positive effects: might be easier to take time off
    if one is sick - factory, office, etc. General thought was come to
    work unless you're dead. Maybe now will change to if you're sick stay home.

    That would be a positive effect from it... Fewer other communicable
    things could be so easily transmitted if sick people could stay home to
    get well first... :)

    My Mother is wearing some sort of mask: said she created it out of a
    head covering she got from a surgery (cataract? I don't recall).
    Folded a couple of times and I'm not sure how she secured. Staying
    away from people anyway, but when at a grocery store not always
    possible. Gives her confidence when going out into the world.
    And the latest executive order from our governor mandates masks for
    all in public where social distancing might be an issue.... it's
    still voluntary compliance, but this does raise the ante.... Mass
    transport, for-hire vehicles and stores are specifically mentioned...
    Makes sense. (I initially interpreted 'Mass transport' as the one in Massachusetts -- well, MA is next to NY, plus heard on the news when I
    was in NH!) Masks, properly fitting and worn, will trap much of the aerosol-ized exhaled breath vapor the viruses are hitchhiking on, plus block most from being inhaled, especially in close-quarters and where
    not much movement. Was reading where with normal walking there is
    enough pushing aside of small particles suspended in the air so one doesn't inhale.

    Interesting. Mostly for me, what I notice is that the mask traps moist,
    warm breath.... I'm only wearing it as mandated, in stores and such... I
    did wear it in the blood collection place when I needed to have blood
    drawn yesterday....

    Yes, good deal on $3 off. If one has the storage may as well buy when
    on sale and/or perks; we do the same here -- we go 'shopping
    downstairs' where stuff is stored in the basement. I did that when
    living in my apartment. Not too much extra space but I did use the
    open space under the bathroom counter -- not the space under the sink
    but the open space where a woman could sit to apply makeup.
    Sometimes one does have to be a little creative with storing stuff... ;)
    Yes. Actually a lot can be stored under there, or at least in my apartment. Here at the house don't have that option.

    Because someone else does use that space....? ;)

    True! And my store has the added distraction/complication of
    undergoing remodeling -- it's getting there! I'm sort of hoping some
    of the current placement is still temporary.
    Do I detect a bit of dislike for some of the current placement...? ;)
    Just a little!
    Then hopefully things will eventually move to someplace more to your
    liking... ;)
    They haven't asked my opinion yet! <g> Was also "complaining" during
    a chit-chat with one of the employees just as I start to get used to
    the new layout they put this one-way traffic rule in.

    I suspect the employees aren't all that enamored of the one-way aisles,
    either, though...

    Yup. "It will be interesting" - a lot of businesses have found their
    people can do some/all of their work at home and so possibly will take
    as an opportunity to scale back the on-site offices, which means less
    lighting, heating/cooling, and parking (!). Of course those cutbacks
    can create other issues: power company sells less commercial-priced
    gas and electricity, cities have less commercial land to tax. ...Might
    make a difference the immediate future but I'm thinking more than
    likely the space will not be wasted rather to be converted for a
    different commercial use.
    How it actually works out indeed might be interesting... I'd guess that
    having people have to work from home may also point up some aspects
    where being at the worksite actually is more beneficial after all... :)
    That's true! Little things like the walk to the supply room for
    printer paper, bigger things like the copier. And everyone in one
    place for a meeting, or when answering the phone to see the person
    needed to get the call is at their desk.
    Yup.... one doesn't even think about that sort of thing until one
    isn't in a position to just do the customary... ;)
    Right: was 'normal' to go to work, supplies were there, though
    sometimes the next cubicle stole your stapler, now it's the kids! <g>

    The drawbacks are everywhere... ;)

    Of course depends on what the job function is. Retail can't be at
    home to stock the shelves. OTOH might have been found it isn't
    necessary to be open until ten p.m. LIS a few messages ago, I'm
    thinking some of the work-at-home will continue, maybe as an expansion
    of flex hours (everyone had to be on-site from 10 to 1, or Tuesday, Thursday and Friday).

    Possible... Some kinds of businesses would be more likely to be able to
    do that sort of thing than others, though...

    OTOH it will take away from fun little quirkie things like when the
    weatherman was doing his weather teaser from home and he sees his dog
    come in the room -- he commented a happy 'oh-oh!' and then we hear his
    dog happily barking in the background!
    Or the kid running in, not realizing Mommy is "on the air".... ;) I
    heard what sounded like that in the background of the main guest for
    an AARP telephone town hall meeting Friday....
    <chuckle> Uh-huh!! ...This morning the iRobot (she meant the
    Siri/Alexa device) alarmed and started speaking in the background
    during one of the news anchor's segments.

    Interesting little quirks.... ;)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Thu Apr 30 11:30:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    Wegmans decided against the special hours for a number of reasons,
    mostly because they felt that it would tend to concentrate those at
    highest risk together, and therefore be less safe, not more safe....
    Makes sense. If someone around who is infected and improper safety is
    taken by the infected person and others then the sickness can move
    easily regardless of the time of day. Doesn't matter which sickness,
    though currently COVID-19 is in the spotlight.
    Exactly... .:)
    LIS some time back, the COVID-19 issues may end up having the positive effect of people being more mindful of health issues. Glancing at the sink does not equate washing ones hands. Coughing/sneezing into the
    air may be easier for that person but can be unhealthy for the
    surrounding people. (Ask anyone in retail!)
    For sure... :) Some of that is merely good health sense... The
    negative is in the what may be overkill reactions to dealing with
    it, at least in the long term, of the social distancing and
    isolations and even masks and gloves.... Hopefully the
    restrictions will be all lifted when the crisis is over, leaving
    just the reasonable health responses... :)

    It will be interesting! Right now the masking and gloves and santizing everything might be an overreaction. Not saying it isn't the right
    thing to do; at this point we don't know the details and so tend to
    overreact, to do everything to protect as opposed to just what is
    necessary. I do think society in general will change: it will be almost
    a socila disgrace to go out sick. Where the sick line is drawn I don't
    know: sniffles from allergies isn't catching but can be similiar to
    sniffles from a cold.

    Small gatherings -- would be somewhat easy to maintain a bit of a
    distance, which I think will be decreased but not back to the almost
    walking into each other. Larger gathering will be more difficult to
    maintain a distance, especially as excitement builds on the event floor.

    Business will be interesting. For "corporate stuff" they've found a lot
    could be done from home, so might be a way for the many of the cube
    farms to be disassembled, possibly replacing a few with conference rooms
    for when people do have to meet once or three times a week.

    Retail will probably essentially stay somewhat like current with a big
    amount as on-line shopping. People do like to shop, especially feel
    clothing and see how it fits, so maybe that segment of shopping back to
    as it was, though possibly even less in-stock (one shirt in stock, sold, replacement comes in.)

    The mom-and-pop type shops are going to have a short-term struggle and
    then possibly proliferate as they take over specialties. Maybe the
    return of shoe stores as people prefer to try on to be certain is
    comfortable as opposed to a shirt/blouse which doesn't have to not hit
    on a bunion and can flop around a bit.

    All guesses, of course,



    There may be other positive effects: might be easier to take time off
    if one is sick - factory, office, etc. General thought was come to
    work unless you're dead. Maybe now will change to if you're sick stay home.
    That would be a positive effect from it... Fewer other
    communicable things could be so easily transmitted if sick people
    could stay home to get well first... :)

    True. I know I went to work several times just because "it was the
    thing to do".


    My Mother is wearing some sort of mask: said she created it out of a
    head covering she got from a surgery (cataract? I don't recall).
    Folded a couple of times and I'm not sure how she secured. Staying
    away from people anyway, but when at a grocery store not always
    possible. Gives her confidence when going out into the world.
    And the latest executive order from our governor mandates masks for
    all in public where social distancing might be an issue.... it's
    still voluntary compliance, but this does raise the ante.... Mass
    transport, for-hire vehicles and stores are specifically mentioned...
    Makes sense. (I initially interpreted 'Mass transport' as the one in Massachusetts -- well, MA is next to NY, plus heard on the news when I
    was in NH!) Masks, properly fitting and worn, will trap much of the aerosol-ized exhaled breath vapor the viruses are hitchhiking on, plus block most from being inhaled, especially in close-quarters and where
    not much movement. Was reading where with normal walking there is
    enough pushing aside of small particles suspended in the air so one doesn't inhale.
    Interesting. Mostly for me, what I notice is that the mask traps
    moist, warm breath.... I'm only wearing it as mandated, in stores
    and such... I did wear it in the blood collection place when I
    needed to have blood drawn yesterday....

    I also have not been wearing a mask but also haven't gone any place
    public lately. ...Good Grief! I've been home for two weeks??!! I
    didn't go to Hy-Vee last week.... Going to go to Dollar General later
    this morning to pick up a Mother's Day card and a couple other items;
    Hy-Vee after that. I did make a paper towel mask last might and will
    bring it with me should masking be required. Will wipe the basket
    handle/cart handle with hand sanitizer -- have been doing that.



    Yes, good deal on $3 off. If one has the storage may as well buy when
    on sale and/or perks; we do the same here -- we go 'shopping
    downstairs' where stuff is stored in the basement. I did that when
    living in my apartment. Not too much extra space but I did use the
    open space under the bathroom counter -- not the space under the sink
    but the open space where a woman could sit to apply makeup.
    Sometimes one does have to be a little creative with storing stuff... ;)
    Yes. Actually a lot can be stored under there, or at least in my apartment. Here at the house don't have that option.
    Because someone else does use that space....? ;)

    Nah...:) First floor bathroom's sink is on a cabinet and the room
    itself is compact enough no space for a seating area/extra storage. The upstairs bathroom has a pedestal sink so definitely no storage counter.



    True! And my store has the added distraction/complication of
    undergoing remodeling -- it's getting there! I'm sort of hoping some
    of the current placement is still temporary.
    Do I detect a bit of dislike for some of the current placement...? ;)
    Just a little!
    Then hopefully things will eventually move to someplace more to your
    liking... ;)
    They haven't asked my opinion yet! <g> Was also "complaining" during
    a chit-chat with one of the employees just as I start to get used to
    the new layout they put this one-way traffic rule in.
    I suspect the employees aren't all that enamored of the one-way
    aisles, either, though...

    <chuckle> Some tend to be a little more verbal about that to me when I
    kid about going the wrong way!


    Yup. "It will be interesting" - a lot of businesses have found their
    people can do some/all of their work at home and so possibly will take
    as an opportunity to scale back the on-site offices, which means less
    lighting, heating/cooling, and parking (!). Of course those cutbacks
    can create other issues: power company sells less commercial-priced
    gas and electricity, cities have less commercial land to tax. ...Might
    make a difference the immediate future but I'm thinking more than
    likely the space will not be wasted rather to be converted for a
    different commercial use.
    How it actually works out indeed might be interesting... I'd guess that
    having people have to work from home may also point up some aspects
    where being at the worksite actually is more beneficial after all... :)
    That's true! Little things like the walk to the supply room for
    printer paper, bigger things like the copier. And everyone in one
    place for a meeting, or when answering the phone to see the person
    needed to get the call is at their desk.
    Yup.... one doesn't even think about that sort of thing until one
    isn't in a position to just do the customary... ;)
    Right: was 'normal' to go to work, supplies were there, though
    sometimes the next cubicle stole your stapler, now it's the kids! <g>
    The drawbacks are everywhere... ;)

    True. A lot of 'all depends'. And what might be a problem for one
    person would not be a problem for another. A parent might find working
    at home they can break up their eight-hour job so it lasts twelve or
    even fourteen. Might sound horrible initially but work a couple hours,
    get the kids off to school, go back to work, take a 15 minute lunch,
    work a bit, kids back from school and take a break with them, back to
    work, start preparing dinner, work a bit while dinner is cooking,
    dinner, a litttle more work.



    Of course depends on what the job function is. Retail can't be at
    home to stock the shelves. OTOH might have been found it isn't
    necessary to be open until ten p.m. LIS a few messages ago, I'm
    thinking some of the work-at-home will continue, maybe as an expansion
    of flex hours (everyone had to be on-site from 10 to 1, or Tuesday, Thursday and Friday).
    Possible... Some kinds of businesses would be more likely to be
    able to do that sort of thing than others, though...

    True, again depends on specifics. And some people can work with minimal supervision, others need to have that watchful eye.


    OTOH it will take away from fun little quirkie things like when the
    weatherman was doing his weather teaser from home and he sees his dog
    come in the room -- he commented a happy 'oh-oh!' and then we hear his
    dog happily barking in the background!
    Or the kid running in, not realizing Mommy is "on the air".... ;) I
    heard what sounded like that in the background of the main guest for
    an AARP telephone town hall meeting Friday....
    <chuckle> Uh-huh!! ...This morning the iRobot (she meant the
    Siri/Alexa device) alarmed and started speaking in the background
    during one of the news anchor's segments.
    Interesting little quirks.... ;)

    Things have gone off smoother than I'd expect, especially considering
    the anchors are suddenly working from home. For the station I generally
    watch it looks like the anchors are working out of a family room vs. a
    home office: a room where everyone is welcome as opposed to Daddy's or
    Mommy's room.



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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to Barry Martin on Sun May 31 19:48:00 2020
    Barry,

    But, you have to give 2 weeks notice of your death, to train
    your replacement. :P

    Ha-ha! I retired first!

    Lucky you.

    Wasn't it Bob Dole: "Boxers or briefs?!" "Depends!" (At least he
    didn't respond 'thong'! That would have been a strain!!)

    Boy, this thread turned crappy while I was away.

    Hmm: James Last _Orange Blossom Special_ ==> "All aboard!" Get off
    you kinky.....!!

    Never mind getting into training...sort of like the mile high club,
    but on Amtrak, I guess it'd be the high iron club. <G>


    ... Please note: "typo" is not a blood type!
    My blood type is "red". <G>

    My blood type is 'internal'!

    True.

    They might poke me for some before the surgery.

    Daryl

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Mon Jun 8 09:03:00 2020

    Hi Daryl!

    Wasn't it Bob Dole: "Boxers or briefs?!" "Depends!" (At least he
    didn't respond 'thong'! That would have been a strain!!)
    Boy, this thread turned crappy while I was away.

    No <poop>!


    Hmm: James Last _Orange Blossom Special_ ==> "All aboard!" Get off
    you kinky.....!!
    Never mind getting into training...sort of like the mile high
    club, but on Amtrak, I guess it'd be the high iron club. <G>

    Just keep chugging along....


    ... Please note: "typo" is not a blood type!
    My blood type is "red". <G>
    My blood type is 'internal'!
    They might poke me for some before the surgery.

    I'm thinking a good idea should something not go as anticipated and
    start leaking. Fortunately nothing happened.


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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to Barry Martin on Wed Jun 10 09:06:00 2020
    Barry,

    Boy, this thread turned crappy while I was away.

    No <poop>!

    That was the story of the 2 guys in the shower at the pool. One saw
    another one had a cork up his butt. He asked his friend what happened,
    and was told "I stumbled on bottle on a beach, and I bumped it. Out
    came a genie, who said I can grant you any wish", and I inquired "No
    [poop]". I wonder if he has a colostomy bag instead. :P

    Never mind getting into training...sort of like the mile high
    club, but on Amtrak, I guess it'd be the high iron club. <G>

    Just keep chugging along....

    Whoo-Whoo Whoopee. <G>

    I'm thinking a good idea should something not go as anticipated and
    start leaking. Fortunately nothing happened.

    Well, they sliced me in 4 places...one area has a lot of bruising.
    But, no leakage, bleeding, etc. has been seen. I wear the girdle/binder
    when walking around...but just at the computer or in bed, I leave it off
    to let the wounds "air out".

    Daryl

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Fri Jun 12 09:56:00 2020

    Hi Daryl!

    I'm thinking a good idea should something not go as anticipated and
    start leaking. Fortunately nothing happened.
    Well, they sliced me in 4 places...one area has a lot of
    bruising. But, no leakage, bleeding, etc. has been seen. I wear
    the girdle/binder when walking around...but just at the computer
    or in bed, I leave it off to let the wounds "air out".

    Yes - follow doctor's advice of course but seems logical one only needs
    to wear the gridle/binder thing when there is a chance of straining the sutures. 'Airing out' also sounds good: as long as not dripping/oozing, catching on something, absent-mindedly scratching, etc.



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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to Barry Martin on Sun Jun 14 09:37:00 2020
    Barry,

    Yes - follow doctor's advice of course but seems logical one only needs
    to wear the gridle/binder thing when there is a chance of straining the sutures. 'Airing out' also sounds good: as long as not
    dripping/oozing, catching on something, absent-mindedly scratching,
    etc.

    Haven't seen any dripping/oozing...although I was alarmed when I saw this black deal from one of the incisions, but it was the scab coming off. I still keep an underpad on the bed at night.

    Plus, avoiding constipation helps to not strain those muscles...although
    I admit I wondered if straining to fart was detrimental. :P

    Daryl

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Mon Jun 15 17:34:00 2020

    Hi Daryl!

    Yes - follow doctor's advice of course but seems logical one only needs
    to wear the gridle/binder thing when there is a chance of straining the sutures. 'Airing out' also sounds good: as long as not
    dripping/oozing, catching on something, absent-mindedly scratching,
    etc.
    Haven't seen any dripping/oozing...although I was alarmed when
    I saw this black deal from one of the incisions, but it was the
    scab coming off. I still keep an underpad on the bed at night.

    Yes, that could be just a hare unnerving to see that black thing coming
    off!! The underpad is probably a good thing to continue to use for a
    while -- one of those 'better safe that sorry' deals. Plus cheaper to
    replace the linens and underpad than a blood-soaked mattress!


    Plus, avoiding constipation helps to not strain those
    muscles...although I admit I wondered if straining to fart was detrimental. :P

    Somehow we don't think you have to strain at all to release one!


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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to Barry Martin on Thu Jun 18 01:37:00 2020
    Barry,

    Yes, that could be just a hare unnerving to see that black thing coming off!! The underpad is probably a good thing to continue to use for a while -- one of those 'better safe that sorry' deals. Plus cheaper to replace the linens and underpad than a blood-soaked mattress!

    That's for sure. Plus, as one gets older, their urinary and anal
    sphincters get weak...and the urges get stronger...not a good situation.

    Somehow we don't think you have to strain at all to release one!

    When I said "that one snuck out", I was told "you forced it out". :P

    Daryl

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Fri Jun 19 09:21:00 2020

    Hi Daryl!

    Yes, that could be just a hare unnerving to see that black thing coming off!! The underpad is probably a good thing to continue to use for a while -- one of those 'better safe that sorry' deals. Plus cheaper to replace the linens and underpad than a blood-soaked mattress!
    That's for sure. Plus, as one gets older, their urinary and
    anal sphincters get weak...and the urges get stronger...not a
    good situation.

    Minor design issue! <g>



    Somehow we don't think you have to strain at all to release one!
    When I said "that one snuck out", I was told "you forced it
    out". :P

    Everyone knows 'timing is everything'!


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