• flood stuff was: Vacation

    From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Sun Aug 25 09:46:00 2019
    Subject: flood stuff was: Vacation Time!


    Hi Nancy!

    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 13-Aug-2019 10:24 <=-
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 29-Jun-2019 08:37 <=-
    Replying at 9:20am on the 6th...
    A little after 7:30 a.m. on August 13th...
    We're quite stretched out here... now about 4:30 pm on August
    24th... :)

    Getting close: 8:30 on August 25th!



    Nope. Never did associate anything with that 91 days. ...Oh! 365
    days divided by 4 is 91.25. So for one-quarter of the year we had been
    flooded. Now makes sense! (To me "90 days" would have triggered
    three months.)
    Ah.... Yes, that makes sense... 90 days is usually what is used
    for three months, but it's only an approximation, just like 30
    days is for a month... 13 weeks is more accurate for a quarter
    year, and that would be 91 days....
    Yes. LIS in an earlier message, initially the news anchor's use of
    "91 days Monday" (something like that) initially didn't make sense.
    Maybe because I was only half paying attention and missed the cue.
    Once I figured it out some time later it made sense.
    Or maybe he just figured that people would figure out where he
    was coming from and hadn't given a cue... :) What was the final
    tally of days at or above flood stage...?

    96. As for the figuring it out, maybe, or there was a comment earlier
    in the news which I hadn't paid attention to. At least finally made
    sense to me.


    And clean up is likely to continue for quite a while after the
    River is back to normal....
    Yes. Get the roads re-opened; LeClaire Park usually hosts most of the
    4th of July entertainment but will not be ready this year so alterate
    sites have been obtained. Downtown (and other flooded areas) still
    cleaning - some probably into Fall if not longer. FEMA closed its
    temporary site but is still accepting applications for assistance.
    AIS, things are gradually getting back to normal... Good that FEMA
    will still accept the applications, some things wouldn't really come
    to light until one is able to start the cleanup....
    Probably true. Thinking of the possibility of buckled walls and mold behind walls.
    Yup... among other things... :)

    And LIS in an earlier set of messages, a couple/few businesses have
    decided to close permanently because can't afford to rebuild. Overall
    appears Downtown will recover, some quicker than others.


    And I think I made mention the other day for the EagleCam the metal
    box holding some of the remote networking/communications equipment had
    it's front cover broken off - by what's left wasn't a flimsy unit. The
    post stated either a floating log or falling branch probably hit.
    Something that struck with some force....
    Definitely some force behind it. LIS somewhere, the webcams are back
    up but I haven't seen any of the eagles. My guess is I just haven't looked at the right time. Looked a little earlier this morning and now one camera's display says something about expired in 2018 (last year)
    and the other is displaying the currently empty nest -- early enough
    they might be out getting their breakfast.
    And maybe the eaglets are mature enough to have left the nest...?

    Just checked: the webcams are back streaming live shots (yesterday when
    I checked there was a message re: expired 2018) but nobody home. The
    last official post was almost a month ago:

    Friday, July 19, 2019

    Checking In

    We are still working on repairs to our equipment and hope to get the
    cameras back online soon. I have not been to the nest so I don't know if
    Windy and Storm are still hanging out or not. I am attaching map images
    of the four we are still tracking. They are all north in
    Wisconsin/Minnesota and in both Ontario and Manitoba, Canada.

    Might explain why the nest is empty when I check. Windy and Storm are
    the names of the eaglets.

    I've not seen (nor looked for) live location of the eagles.



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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Sat Aug 31 08:45:00 2019

    Hi Nancy!

    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 25-Aug-2019 09:46 <=-
    Subject: flood stuff was: Vacation Time!
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 13-Aug-2019 10:24 <=-
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 29-Jun-2019 08:37 <=-
    Replying at 9:20am on the 6th...
    A little after 7:30 a.m. on August 13th...
    We're quite stretched out here... now about 4:30 pm on August
    24th... :)
    Getting close: 8:30 on August 25th!
    And a little more stretched (but not all that bad) with it now
    evening of August 30th... :)

    That was only about twelve hours ago!


    90 days is usually what is used for three months, but it's only an
    approximation, just like 30 days is for a month... 13 weeks is more
    accurate for a quarter year, and that would be 91 days....
    Yes. LIS in an earlier message, initially the news anchor's use of
    "91 days Monday" (something like that) initially didn't make sense.
    Maybe because I was only half paying attention and missed the cue.
    Once I figured it out some time later it made sense.
    Or maybe he just figured that people would figure out where he was
    coming from and hadn't given a cue... :) What was the final tally of
    days at or above flood stage...?
    96. As for the figuring it out, maybe, or there was a comment earlier
    in the news which I hadn't paid attention to. At least finally made
    sense to me.
    Still quite impressive... I'm sure that people are hoping to not
    have a repeat of this next year, hoever exciting it's been... ;)

    While taking a row boat down 3rd St is unique I don't think Davenport
    plans to become the Venice of the U.S.!


    AIS, things are gradually getting back to normal... Good that FEMA
    will still accept the applications, some things wouldn't really come
    to light until one is able to start the cleanup....
    Probably true. Thinking of the possibility of buckled walls and mold
    behind walls.
    Yup... among other things... :)
    And LIS in an earlier set of messages, a couple/few businesses have decided to close permanently because can't afford to rebuild. Overall appears Downtown will recover, some quicker than others.
    I guess for some, the flooding was the last straw... and
    insurance and FEMA don't cover everything, just a good portion...
    But it's good that overall the Downtown will recover... :)

    Overall, yes. LIS there were some casualties; hopefully their next
    business adventure will work out better.



    LIS somewhere, the webcams are back
    up but I haven't seen any of the eagles. My guess is I just haven't
    looked at the right time. Looked a little earlier this morning and now
    one camera's display says something about expired in 2018 (last year)
    and the other is displaying the currently empty nest -- early enough
    they might be out getting their breakfast.
    And maybe the eaglets are mature enough to have left the nest...?
    Just checked: the webcams are back streaming live shots (yesterday
    when I checked there was a message re: expired 2018) but nobody home.
    At least the cameras are working again... :)

    Yes. I didn't see any posts on the repair but would assume because of
    this year's problem the connection box has been moved to a higher
    position.


    The last official post was almost a month ago:
    Friday, July 19, 2019
    Checking In
    We are still working on repairs to our equipment and hope to get the cameras back online soon. I have not been to the nest so I don't
    know if Windy and Storm are still hanging out or not. I am attaching
    map images of the four we are still tracking. They are all north in Wisconsin/Minnesota and in both Ontario and Manitoba, Canada.
    I wonder if the official person has had a chance to physically
    check the location yet....

    I'm guessing so. Appears the eaglets have been banded/have some sort of tracking device as there are maps to their location (at the time near
    Duluth, MN).



    I've not seen (nor looked for) live location of the eagles.
    Did they get a chance to put trackers on Windy and Storm....? Or
    did the weather interfere there, too....

    The trackers may have been installed late but was attached before they
    left the nest.


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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Sun Sep 8 01:04:08 2019
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 31-Aug-2019 08:45 <=-

    More from the Pond on 7 Sept, a little after 9pm...

    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 25-Aug-2019 09:46 <=-
    Subject: flood stuff was: Vacation Time!
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 13-Aug-2019 10:24 <=-
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 29-Jun-2019 08:37 <=-
    Replying at 9:20am on the 6th...
    A little after 7:30 a.m. on August 13th...
    We're quite stretched out here... now about 4:30 pm on August
    24th... :)
    Getting close: 8:30 on August 25th!
    And a little more stretched (but not all that bad) with it now
    evening of August 30th... :)
    That was only about twelve hours ago!

    That works when both of us are on top of things... <G> Unfortunately,
    just before leaving this time, I had a few days where Real Life got in
    the way... <G> We'll see if I can catch up completely whilst away... not impossible, but might be a bit of a stretch this time... ;)

    Or maybe he just figured that people would figure out where he was
    coming from and hadn't given a cue... :) What was the final tally of
    days at or above flood stage...?
    96. As for the figuring it out, maybe, or there was a comment earlier
    in the news which I hadn't paid attention to. At least finally made
    sense to me.
    Still quite impressive... I'm sure that people are hoping to not
    have a repeat of this next year, hoever exciting it's been... ;)
    While taking a row boat down 3rd St is unique I don't think Davenport plans to become the Venice of the U.S.!

    Wasn't that much fun to do it regularly.... ;)

    AIS, things are gradually getting back to normal... Good that FEMA
    will still accept the applications, some things wouldn't really come
    to light until one is able to start the cleanup....
    Probably true. Thinking of the possibility of buckled walls and mold
    behind walls.
    Yup... among other things... :)
    And LIS in an earlier set of messages, a couple/few businesses have
    decided to close permanently because can't afford to rebuild. Overall
    appears Downtown will recover, some quicker than others.
    I guess for some, the flooding was the last straw... and insurance
    and FEMA don't cover everything, just a good portion... But it's good
    that overall the Downtown will recover... :)
    Overall, yes. LIS there were some casualties; hopefully their next business adventure will work out better.

    Or perhaps they'll find some other line to go after.... :) Maybe even
    see it as being time to retire... :)

    And maybe the eaglets are mature enough to have left the nest...?
    Just checked: the webcams are back streaming live shots (yesterday
    when I checked there was a message re: expired 2018) but nobody home.
    At least the cameras are working again... :)
    Yes. I didn't see any posts on the repair but would assume because of this year's problem the connection box has been moved to a higher position.

    That would at least make sense.... :)

    I wonder if the official person has had a chance to physically
    check the location yet....
    I'm guessing so. Appears the eaglets have been banded/have some sort
    of tracking device as there are maps to their location (at the time
    near Duluth, MN).

    Sounds like they're off on their own, then.... :)

    Did they get a chance to put trackers on Windy and Storm....? Or
    did the weather interfere there, too....
    The trackers may have been installed late but was attached before they left the nest.

    Good.... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Thu Sep 12 15:45:00 2019

    Hi Nancy!

    That works when both of us are on top of things... <G>
    Unfortunately, just before leaving this time, I had a few days
    where Real Life got in the way... <G> We'll see if I can catch up completely whilst away... not impossible, but might be a bit of a
    stretch this time... ;)

    If you do you do, else it'll just have to wait! LIS, it's supposed ot
    be enjoyable, not a duty.


    Or maybe he just figured that people would figure out where he was
    coming from and hadn't given a cue... :) What was the final tally of
    days at or above flood stage...?
    96. As for the figuring it out, maybe, or there was a comment earlier
    in the news which I hadn't paid attention to. At least finally made
    sense to me.
    Still quite impressive... I'm sure that people are hoping to not
    have a repeat of this next year, hoever exciting it's been... ;)
    While taking a row boat down 3rd St is unique I don't think Davenport plans to become the Venice of the U.S.!
    Wasn't that much fun to do it regularly.... ;)

    No, though one could adapt. With River Drive closed the usual detour
    was to use Locust St. (18th block from the River), or Kimberly Rd. (37th
    block up) or 53rd St. (guess!) -- the way the roads are now they're the
    only streets consistently going through plus able to handle heavier
    traffic; other streets will 'disappear' for a block or two and then
    restart -- fine for light traffic but not for thoroughfare traffic.

    As for the 'Venice option', would be interesting as a tourist attraction
    but we don't have the history to make it logical. Well, other than
    flooding. Suppose if they did go through with the concept would also
    include road revisions. I think River Drive was only flooded for a few
    blocks beyond the downtown area, just traffic was rerouted miles before because of being able to get to the detour routes easily/conveniently. Elevate or otherwise protect a section, then reroute around 'Venice- Davenport'. In the downtown area walways and shuttles.... Probably
    better to stick with the floodwall and keep things dry!



    AIS, things are gradually getting back to normal... Good that FEMA
    will still accept the applications, some things wouldn't really come
    to light until one is able to start the cleanup....
    Probably true. Thinking of the possibility of buckled walls and mold
    behind walls.
    Yup... among other things... :)
    And LIS in an earlier set of messages, a couple/few businesses have
    decided to close permanently because can't afford to rebuild. Overall
    appears Downtown will recover, some quicker than others.
    I guess for some, the flooding was the last straw... and insurance
    and FEMA don't cover everything, just a good portion... But it's good
    that overall the Downtown will recover... :)
    Overall, yes. LIS there were some casualties; hopefully their next business adventure will work out better.
    Or perhaps they'll find some other line to go after.... :)
    Maybe even see it as being time to retire... :)

    I don't recall a business doing that option; not saying it didn't
    happen, just the few that did decide to give up were all very new.
    Those businesses may or may not have been successful without the flood.



    And maybe the eaglets are mature enough to have left the nest...?
    Just checked: the webcams are back streaming live shots (yesterday
    when I checked there was a message re: expired 2018) but nobody home.
    At least the cameras are working again... :)
    Yes. I didn't see any posts on the repair but would assume because of this year's problem the connection box has been moved to a higher position.
    That would at least make sense.... :)

    I think so! Didn't read anything in the comments; haven't seen any
    activity at the next. ... Post from a week ago: of the four eagles
    they're tracking (I'm guessing the two form this year and two a previous
    year) three are in northern Wisconsin and one was up there and returned
    to the Quad Cities area (here). His tracking map indicated in an area downriver from Arsenal Island (I'm upriver and the parents' nest is a
    few miles further upriver).


    I wonder if the official person has had a chance to physically
    check the location yet....
    I'm guessing so. Appears the eaglets have been banded/have some sort
    of tracking device as there are maps to their location (at the time
    near Duluth, MN).
    Sounds like they're off on their own, then.... :)

    And doing well! :)


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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Thu Sep 19 23:54:42 2019
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 12-Sep-2019 15:45 <=-

    That works when both of us are on top of things... <G> Unfortunately,
    just before leaving this time, I had a few days where Real Life got in
    the way... <G> We'll see if I can catch up completely whilst away...
    not impossible, but might be a bit of a stretch this time... ;)
    If you do you do, else it'll just have to wait! LIS, it's supposed ot
    be enjoyable, not a duty.

    I do like to not get too far behind, though...

    Still quite impressive... I'm sure that people are hoping to not
    have a repeat of this next year, hoever exciting it's been... ;)
    While taking a row boat down 3rd St is unique I don't think Davenport
    plans to become the Venice of the U.S.!
    Wasn't that much fun to do it regularly.... ;)
    No, though one could adapt. With River Drive closed the usual detour
    was to use Locust St. (18th block from the River), or Kimberly Rd.
    (37th block up) or 53rd St. (guess!) -- the way the roads are now
    they're the only streets consistently going through plus able to handle heavier traffic; other streets will 'disappear' for a block or two and then restart -- fine for light traffic but not for thoroughfare
    traffic.

    We have some streets like that, too... often because of train tracks, or putting in expressways or similar... :)

    As for the 'Venice option', would be interesting as a tourist
    attraction but we don't have the history to make it logical. Well,
    other than flooding. Suppose if they did go through with the concept would also include road revisions. I think River Drive was only
    flooded for a few blocks beyond the downtown area, just traffic was rerouted miles before because of being able to get to the detour routes easily/conveniently. Elevate or otherwise protect a section, then
    reroute around 'Venice- Davenport'. In the downtown area walkways and shuttles.... Probably better to stick with the floodwall and keep
    things dry!

    It's an intriging option all the same... ;) The Erie Canal used to run
    right through downtown Rochester... when the Barge Canal was put in, the
    Erie was drained and used first for a subway, and then just as streets
    (part became part of one of the expressways)... Now there are people
    arguing for replacing a portion of the Erie Canal downtown as a tourist attraction... ;)

    And LIS in an earlier set of messages, a couple/few businesses have
    decided to close permanently because can't afford to rebuild. Overall
    appears Downtown will recover, some quicker than others.
    I guess for some, the flooding was the last straw... and insurance
    and FEMA don't cover everything, just a good portion... But it's good
    that overall the Downtown will recover... :)
    Overall, yes. LIS there were some casualties; hopefully their next
    business adventure will work out better.
    Or perhaps they'll find some other line to go after... :) Maybe even
    see it as being time to retire... :)
    I don't recall a business doing that option; not saying it didn't
    happen, just the few that did decide to give up were all very new.
    Those businesses may or may not have been successful without the
    flood.

    Ah... possibly not quite well enough established before the flooding to
    be able to weather it... :)

    activity at the nest. ... Post from a week ago: of the four eagles they're tracking (I'm guessing the two form this year and two a
    previous year) three are in northern Wisconsin and one was up there and returned to the Quad Cities area (here). His tracking map indicated in
    an area downriver from Arsenal Island (I'm upriver and the parents'
    nest is a few miles further upriver).

    So possibly decided that your area was a nice place to settle after
    all... :)

    Sounds like they're off on their own, then.... :)
    And doing well! :)

    Yup. :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Fri Sep 20 09:02:00 2019

    Hi Nancy!

    That works when both of us are on top of things... <G> Unfortunately,
    just before leaving this time, I had a few days where Real Life got in
    the way... <G> We'll see if I can catch up completely whilst away...
    not impossible, but might be a bit of a stretch this time... ;)
    If you do you do, else it'll just have to wait! LIS, it's supposed ot
    be enjoyable, not a duty.
    I do like to not get too far behind, though...

    True. Helps when know we're talking about this year and not last year!


    Still quite impressive... I'm sure that people are hoping to not
    have a repeat of this next year, hoever exciting it's been... ;)
    While taking a row boat down 3rd St is unique I don't think Davenport
    plans to become the Venice of the U.S.!
    Wasn't that much fun to do it regularly.... ;)
    No, though one could adapt. With River Drive closed the usual detour
    was to use Locust St. (18th block from the River), or Kimberly Rd.
    (37th block up) or 53rd St. (guess!) -- the way the roads are now
    they're the only streets consistently going through plus able to handle heavier traffic; other streets will 'disappear' for a block or two and then restart -- fine for light traffic but not for thoroughfare
    traffic.
    We have some streets like that, too... often because of train
    tracks, or putting in expressways or similar... :)

    Generally not the reason for the interruption here. Some have a reason
    of a steep hill or ravine. Most seem to have no reason now but possibly
    in the past a small farm or large property. And there are a handful of streets which jog; almost like the Internet joke picture of the bridge
    being constructed and the two halves don't align.


    As for the 'Venice option', would be interesting as a tourist
    attraction but we don't have the history to make it logical. Well,
    other than flooding. Suppose if they did go through with the concept would also include road revisions. I think River Drive was only
    flooded for a few blocks beyond the downtown area, just traffic was rerouted miles before because of being able to get to the detour routes easily/conveniently. Elevate or otherwise protect a section, then
    reroute around 'Venice- Davenport'. In the downtown area walkways and shuttles.... Probably better to stick with the floodwall and keep
    things dry!
    It's an intriging option all the same... ;) The Erie Canal used
    to run right through downtown Rochester... when the Barge Canal
    was put in, the Erie was drained and used first for a subway, and
    then just as streets (part became part of one of the
    expressways)... Now there are people arguing for replacing a
    portion of the Erie Canal downtown as a tourist attraction... ;)

    They dig out for the canal then they fill it back in for the subway! As
    for the tourist attraction, could see that. People watch the ships,
    barges, etc., go through the lock and dam system here. A history of
    how the Canal was conceptualized and constructed and used could be interesting.


    And LIS in an earlier set of messages, a couple/few businesses have
    decided to close permanently because can't afford to rebuild. Overall
    appears Downtown will recover, some quicker than others.
    I guess for some, the flooding was the last straw... and insurance
    and FEMA don't cover everything, just a good portion... But it's good
    that overall the Downtown will recover... :)
    Overall, yes. LIS there were some casualties; hopefully their next
    business adventure will work out better.
    Or perhaps they'll find some other line to go after... :) Maybe even
    see it as being time to retire... :)
    I don't recall a business doing that option; not saying it didn't
    happen, just the few that did decide to give up were all very new.
    Those businesses may or may not have been successful without the
    flood.
    Ah... possibly not quite well enough established before the
    flooding to be able to weather it... :)

    And/or not having enough insurance or the proper kind of insurance to
    cover the costs of rebuilding. ...This week there have been brief news
    blurbs on flood recovery, etc. One popular new restaurant is not
    re-opening; I don't recall details on why but apparently was popular
    with the anchor staff at the TV station the way the conversation went.
    Some other stores/shops/eateries/etc. are not reopening but their sites
    have been leased and so replaced.

    As for the floodwall, slowly moving and read where consultants familiar
    with projects of this size will be called in.


    activity at the nest. ... Post from a week ago: of the four eagles they're tracking (I'm guessing the two form this year and two a
    previous year) three are in northern Wisconsin and one was up there and returned to the Quad Cities area (here). His tracking map indicated in
    an area downriver from Arsenal Island (I'm upriver and the parents'
    nest is a few miles further upriver).
    So possibly decided that your area was a nice place to settle
    after all... :)

    Apparently! Don't know if the one young eagle would eventually take
    over his parents' nest - would think build his own and would be nice if
    the new site was viewable. Guess just wait and find out!


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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Tue Sep 24 16:30:08 2019
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 20-Sep-2019 09:02 <=-

    That works when both of us are on top of things... <G> Unfortunately,
    just before leaving this time, I had a few days where Real Life got in
    the way... <G> We'll see if I can catch up completely whilst away...
    not impossible, but might be a bit of a stretch this time... ;)
    If you do you do, else it'll just have to wait! LIS, it's supposed ot
    be enjoyable, not a duty.
    I do like to not get too far behind, though...
    True. Helps when know we're talking about this year and not last
    year!

    For sure... ;)

    Still quite impressive... I'm sure that people are hoping to not
    have a repeat of this next year, however exciting it's been... ;)
    While taking a row boat down 3rd St is unique I don't think Davenport
    plans to become the Venice of the U.S.!
    Wasn't that much fun to do it regularly.... ;)
    No, though one could adapt. With River Drive closed the usual detour
    was to use Locust St. (18th block from the River), or Kimberly Rd.
    (37th block up) or 53rd St. (guess!) -- the way the roads are now
    they're the only streets consistently going through plus able to handle
    heavier traffic; other streets will 'disappear' for a block or two and
    then restart -- fine for light traffic but not for thoroughfare
    traffic.
    We have some streets like that, too... often because of train tracks,
    or putting in expressways or similar... :)
    Generally not the reason for the interruption here. Some have a
    reason of a steep hill or ravine. Most seem to have no reason now but possibly in the past a small farm or large property. And there are a handful of streets which jog; almost like the Internet joke picture of
    the bridge being constructed and the two halves don't align.

    We've got the ravines and such too in places... and the occasional jog
    in some streets as well... In Syracuse, there are a few major streets
    that the name stays with the street as it makes a right or left turn,
    and the straightaway has a new name... probably history behind that,
    too... but it can catch a visitor off guard for sure...

    As for the 'Venice option', would be interesting as a tourist
    attraction but we don't have the history to make it logical. Well,
    other than flooding. Suppose if they did go through with the concept
    would also include road revisions. I think River Drive was only
    flooded for a few blocks beyond the downtown area, just traffic was
    rerouted miles before because of being able to get to the detour routes
    easily/conveniently. Elevate or otherwise protect a section, then
    reroute around 'Venice- Davenport'. In the downtown area walkways and
    shuttles.... Probably better to stick with the floodwall and keep
    things dry!
    It's an intriging option all the same... ;) The Erie Canal used to
    run right through downtown Rochester... when the Barge Canal was put
    in, the Erie was drained and used first for a subway, and then just as
    streets (part became part of one of the expressways)... Now there are
    people arguing for replacing a portion of the Erie Canal downtown as a
    tourist attraction... ;)
    They dig out for the canal then they fill it back in for the subway!
    As for the tourist attraction, could see that. People watch the ships, barges, etc., go through the lock and dam system here. A history of
    how the Canal was conceptualized and constructed and used could be interesting.

    I don't think anything that extensive would be put in downtown here...
    People can go down to the Barge Canal, still much in use, to see how the
    locks and dams work... there are regular river boat cruises here, in
    various parts of the system, too... Our high school class did that twice
    for a reunion activity... a dinner cruise... :)

    Overall, yes. LIS there were some casualties; hopefully their next
    business adventure will work out better.
    Or perhaps they'll find some other line to go after... :) Maybe even
    see it as being time to retire... :)
    I don't recall a business doing that option; not saying it didn't
    happen, just the few that did decide to give up were all very new.
    Those businesses may or may not have been successful without the
    flood.
    Ah... possibly not quite well enough established before the flooding
    to be able to weather it... :)
    And/or not having enough insurance or the proper kind of insurance to cover the costs of rebuilding.

    Yeah, that could be another possibility....

    ...This week there have been brief news blurbs on flood recovery, etc.
    One popular new restaurant is not re-opening; I don't recall details
    on why but apparently was popular with the anchor staff at the TV
    station the way the conversation went. Some other stores/shops/ eateries/etc. are not reopening but their sites have been leased and
    so replaced.

    So recovery is continuing apace... ;)

    As for the floodwall, slowly moving and read where consultants
    familiar with projects of this size will be called in.

    So maybe something will be in place for the next flood season... ;)

    activity at the nest. ... Post from a week ago: of the four eagles
    they're tracking (I'm guessing the two form this year and two a
    previous year) three are in northern Wisconsin and one was up there and
    returned to the Quad Cities area (here). His tracking map indicated in
    an area downriver from Arsenal Island (I'm upriver and the parents'
    nest is a few miles further upriver).
    So possibly decided that your area was a nice place to settle after
    all... :)
    Apparently! Don't know if the one young eagle would eventually take
    over his parents' nest - would think build his own and would be nice
    if the new site was viewable. Guess just wait and find out!

    Guess so... ;) Have to find a mate first, too....

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Wed Sep 25 08:57:00 2019

    Hi Nancy!

    Still quite impressive... I'm sure that people are hoping to not
    have a repeat of this next year, however exciting it's been... ;)
    While taking a row boat down 3rd St is unique I don't think Davenport
    plans to become the Venice of the U.S.!
    Wasn't that much fun to do it regularly.... ;)
    No, though one could adapt. With River Drive closed the usual detour
    was to use Locust St. (18th block from the River), or Kimberly Rd.
    (37th block up) or 53rd St. (guess!) -- the way the roads are now
    they're the only streets consistently going through plus able to handle
    heavier traffic; other streets will 'disappear' for a block or two and
    then restart -- fine for light traffic but not for thoroughfare
    traffic.
    We have some streets like that, too... often because of train tracks,
    or putting in expressways or similar... :)
    Generally not the reason for the interruption here. Some have a
    reason of a steep hill or ravine. Most seem to have no reason now but possibly in the past a small farm or large property. And there are a handful of streets which jog; almost like the Internet joke picture of
    the bridge being constructed and the two halves don't align.
    We've got the ravines and such too in places... and the
    occasional jog in some streets as well... In Syracuse, there are
    a few major streets that the name stays with the street as it
    makes a right or left turn, and the straightaway has a new
    name... probably history behind that, too... but it can catch a
    visitor off guard for sure...

    That could be a little confusing! Here Kimberly Rd. is generally east-
    west from one end of Davenport to the other; gets into Bettendorf and
    almost immediately takes a 90ø turn east down to the River. (?!) No
    idea why -- like you mentioned there is probably a historic reason.
    ...If one continues straight from Davenport's Kimberly Rd. goes into Bettendorf's Spruce Hills Drive. It is hilly, maybe was a patch of
    spruce woods originally?



    As for the 'Venice option', would be interesting as a tourist
    attraction but we don't have the history to make it logical. Well,
    other than flooding. Suppose if they did go through with the concept
    would also include road revisions. I think River Drive was only
    flooded for a few blocks beyond the downtown area, just traffic was
    rerouted miles before because of being able to get to the detour routes
    easily/conveniently. Elevate or otherwise protect a section, then
    reroute around 'Venice- Davenport'. In the downtown area walkways and
    shuttles.... Probably better to stick with the floodwall and keep
    things dry!
    It's an intriging option all the same... ;) The Erie Canal used to
    run right through downtown Rochester... when the Barge Canal was put
    in, the Erie was drained and used first for a subway, and then just as
    streets (part became part of one of the expressways)... Now there are
    people arguing for replacing a portion of the Erie Canal downtown as a
    tourist attraction... ;)
    They dig out for the canal then they fill it back in for the subway!
    As for the tourist attraction, could see that. People watch the ships, barges, etc., go through the lock and dam system here. A history of
    how the Canal was conceptualized and constructed and used could be interesting.
    I don't think anything that extensive would be put in downtown
    here... People can go down to the Barge Canal, still much in use,
    to see how the locks and dams work... there are regular river
    boat cruises here, in various parts of the system, too... Our
    high school class did that twice for a reunion activity... a
    dinner cruise... :)

    Was anyone suspicious of the 'fresh fish' dinner option?!


    ...This week there have been brief news blurbs on flood recovery, etc.
    One popular new restaurant is not re-opening; I don't recall details
    on why but apparently was popular with the anchor staff at the TV
    station the way the conversation went. Some other stores/shops/ eateries/etc. are not reopening but their sites have been leased and
    so replaced.
    So recovery is continuing apace... ;)

    Yes. To me the smart thing to do would be to re-establish out of areas
    of future potential flooding but then that single requirement isn't
    always logically possible: moving inland a few additional blocks and one
    is out of downtown and into residential. About a dozen blocks up the
    hill one gets into another mostly business section but it's not with a 'downtown feel'.


    As for the floodwall, slowly moving and read where consultants
    familiar with projects of this size will be called in.
    So maybe something will be in place for the next flood season...
    ;)

    Unfortunately not. Actually there is minor flooding going on currently:
    the Mississippi and other local rivers are from close to to just above
    flood stage -- not enough to make it necessary to wade through Downtown Davenport but some streets have been closed downriver.


    activity at the nest. ... Post from a week ago: of the four eagles
    they're tracking (I'm guessing the two form this year and two a
    previous year) three are in northern Wisconsin and one was up there and
    returned to the Quad Cities area (here). His tracking map indicated in
    an area downriver from Arsenal Island (I'm upriver and the parents'
    nest is a few miles further upriver).
    So possibly decided that your area was a nice place to settle after
    all... :)
    Apparently! Don't know if the one young eagle would eventually take
    over his parents' nest - would think build his own and would be nice
    if the new site was viewable. Guess just wait and find out!
    Guess so... ;) Have to find a mate first, too....

    True -- haven't read any comments on that.

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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Tue Oct 8 15:50:04 2019
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 25-Sep-2019 08:57 <=-

    Generally not the reason for the interruption here. Some have a
    reason of a steep hill or ravine. Most seem to have no reason now but
    possibly in the past a small farm or large property. And there are a
    handful of streets which jog; almost like the Internet joke picture of
    the bridge being constructed and the two halves don't align.
    We've got the ravines and such too in places... and the occasional jog
    in some streets as well... In Syracuse, there are a few major streets
    that the name stays with the street as it makes a right or left turn,
    and the straightaway has a new name... probably history behind that,
    too... but it can catch a visitor off guard for sure...
    That could be a little confusing! Here Kimberly Rd. is generally
    east- west from one end of Davenport to the other; gets into Bettendorf
    and almost immediately takes a 90ø turn east down to the River. (?!)
    No idea why -- like you mentioned there is probably a historic reason.

    Which is the older municipality, Bettendorf or Davenport...? Maybe it
    was the safest way to go down to the River, or there was a particular
    dock there....

    ...If one continues straight from Davenport's Kimberly Rd. goes into Bettendorf's Spruce Hills Drive. It is hilly, maybe was a patch of
    spruce woods originally?

    I'd guess that Kimberly Rd was the original road, and when they wanted
    to put in a road up the hill, it got the new name... and might have been
    plenty of spruces there originally... or at the end of the road... ;)

    As for the 'Venice option', would be interesting as a tourist
    attraction but we don't have the history to make it logical. Well,
    other than flooding. Suppose if they did go through with the concept
    would also include road revisions. I think River Drive was only
    flooded for a few blocks beyond the downtown area, just traffic was
    rerouted miles before because of being able to get to the detour routes
    easily/conveniently. Elevate or otherwise protect a section, then
    reroute around 'Venice- Davenport'. In the downtown area walkways and
    shuttles.... Probably better to stick with the floodwall and keep
    things dry!
    It's an intriging option all the same... ;) The Erie Canal used to
    run right through downtown Rochester... when the Barge Canal was put
    in, the Erie was drained and used first for a subway, and then just as
    streets (part became part of one of the expressways)... Now there are
    people arguing for replacing a portion of the Erie Canal downtown as a
    tourist attraction... ;)
    They dig out for the canal then they fill it back in for the subway!
    As for the tourist attraction, could see that. People watch the ships,
    barges, etc., go through the lock and dam system here. A history of
    how the Canal was conceptualized and constructed and used could be
    interesting.
    I don't think anything that extensive would be put in downtown here...
    People can go down to the Barge Canal, still much in use, to see how
    the locks and dams work... there are regular river boat cruises here,
    in various parts of the system, too... Our high school class did that
    twice for a reunion activity... a dinner cruise... :)
    Was anyone suspicious of the 'fresh fish' dinner option?!

    ;) I don't recall if we chose that as one of the options to be
    available.... ;) We did it for our 40th, to be a little different, and
    then again for our 45th because it had been so much fun... We did the
    Sam Patch one first, and then a slightly larger one, on a different
    section of the canal, the second time... :)

    ...This week there have been brief news blurbs on flood recovery, etc.
    One popular new restaurant is not re-opening; I don't recall details
    on why but apparently was popular with the anchor staff at the TV
    station the way the conversation went. Some other stores/shops/
    eateries/etc. are not reopening but their sites have been leased and
    so replaced.
    So recovery is continuing apace... ;)
    Yes. To me the smart thing to do would be to re-establish out of
    areas of future potential flooding but then that single requirement
    isn't always logically possible: moving inland a few additional blocks
    and one is out of downtown and into residential. About a dozen blocks
    up the hill one gets into another mostly business section but it's not with a 'downtown feel'.

    I guess they'll just have to weigh the risk/benefits... Short of moving
    the whole business section further from the River, I'd guess they'd want
    to stay where the business is... :)

    As for the floodwall, slowly moving and read where consultants
    familiar with projects of this size will be called in.
    So maybe something will be in place for the next flood season... ;)
    Unfortunately not. Actually there is minor flooding going on
    currently: the Mississippi and other local rivers are from close to to just above flood stage -- not enough to make it necessary to wade
    through Downtown Davenport but some streets have been closed downriver.

    Just not so spectacular, so doesn't make the news.... Like the ongoing
    flood risk anytime there's some wind and somewhat strong winds along the
    Lake Ontario shoreline...

    activity at the nest. ... Post from a week ago: of the four eagles
    they're tracking (I'm guessing the two form this year and two a
    previous year) three are in northern Wisconsin and one was up there and
    returned to the Quad Cities area (here). His tracking map indicated in
    an area downriver from Arsenal Island (I'm upriver and the parents'
    nest is a few miles further upriver).
    So possibly decided that your area was a nice place to settle after
    all... :)
    Apparently! Don't know if the one young eagle would eventually take
    over his parents' nest - would think build his own and would be nice
    if the new site was viewable. Guess just wait and find out!
    Guess so... ;) Have to find a mate first, too....
    True -- haven't read any comments on that.

    So, yes, just wait and see.... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Wed Oct 9 09:27:00 2019

    Hi Nancy!

    Generally not the reason for the interruption here. Some have a
    reason of a steep hill or ravine. Most seem to have no reason now but
    possibly in the past a small farm or large property. And there are a
    handful of streets which jog; almost like the Internet joke picture of
    the bridge being constructed and the two halves don't align.
    We've got the ravines and such too in places... and the occasional jog
    in some streets as well... In Syracuse, there are a few major streets
    that the name stays with the street as it makes a right or left turn,
    and the straightaway has a new name... probably history behind that,
    too... but it can catch a visitor off guard for sure...
    That could be a little confusing! Here Kimberly Rd. is generally
    east- west from one end of Davenport to the other; gets into Bettendorf
    and almost immediately takes a 90ø turn east down to the River. (?!)
    No idea why -- like you mentioned there is probably a historic reason.
    Which is the older municipality, Bettendorf or Davenport...?
    Maybe it was the safest way to go down to the River, or there was
    a particular dock there....

    Davenport is older; Bettendorf originally was a 'bedroom community'. As
    for why Kimberly Rd. makes that right angle turn, no idea other than a
    guess of finishing the street off. It's about forty blocks parallel to
    the Mississippi River and has always been a major east-west
    thoroughfare. Maybe years ago (before Bettendorf) it made sense to make
    a turn at the end of Davenport to allow the road to finish some place
    logical, or at least connect to the other east-west roads.


    ...If one continues straight from Davenport's Kimberly Rd. goes into Bettendorf's Spruce Hills Drive. It is hilly, maybe was a patch of
    spruce woods originally?
    I'd guess that Kimberly Rd was the original road, and when they
    wanted to put in a road up the hill, it got the new name... and
    might have been plenty of spruces there originally... or at the
    end of the road... ;)

    Or "we spruced up that hill" and got contracted! <g>


    As for the 'Venice option', would be interesting as a tourist
    attraction but we don't have the history to make it logical. Well,
    other than flooding. Suppose if they did go through with the concept
    would also include road revisions. I think River Drive was only
    flooded for a few blocks beyond the downtown area, just traffic was
    rerouted miles before because of being able to get to the detour routes
    easily/conveniently. Elevate or otherwise protect a section, then
    reroute around 'Venice- Davenport'. In the downtown area walkways and
    shuttles.... Probably better to stick with the floodwall and keep
    things dry!
    It's an intriging option all the same... ;) The Erie Canal used to
    run right through downtown Rochester... when the Barge Canal was put
    in, the Erie was drained and used first for a subway, and then just as
    streets (part became part of one of the expressways)... Now there are
    people arguing for replacing a portion of the Erie Canal downtown as a
    tourist attraction... ;)
    They dig out for the canal then they fill it back in for the subway!
    As for the tourist attraction, could see that. People watch the ships,
    barges, etc., go through the lock and dam system here. A history of
    how the Canal was conceptualized and constructed and used could be
    interesting.
    I don't think anything that extensive would be put in downtown here...
    People can go down to the Barge Canal, still much in use, to see how
    the locks and dams work... there are regular river boat cruises here,
    in various parts of the system, too... Our high school class did that
    twice for a reunion activity... a dinner cruise... :)
    Was anyone suspicious of the 'fresh fish' dinner option?!
    ;) I don't recall if we chose that as one of the options to be available.... ;) We did it for our 40th, to be a little
    different, and then again for our 45th because it had been so
    much fun... We did the Sam Patch one first, and then a slightly
    larger one, on a different section of the canal, the second
    time... :)

    Sounds like a good celebration!



    ...This week there have been brief news blurbs on flood recovery, etc.
    One popular new restaurant is not re-opening; I don't recall details
    on why but apparently was popular with the anchor staff at the TV
    station the way the conversation went. Some other stores/shops/
    eateries/etc. are not reopening but their sites have been leased and
    so replaced.
    So recovery is continuing apace... ;)
    Yes. To me the smart thing to do would be to re-establish out of
    areas of future potential flooding but then that single requirement
    isn't always logically possible: moving inland a few additional blocks
    and one is out of downtown and into residential. About a dozen blocks
    up the hill one gets into another mostly business section but it's not with a 'downtown feel'.
    I guess they'll just have to weigh the risk/benefits... Short of
    moving the whole business section further from the River, I'd
    guess they'd want to stay where the business is... :)

    IMO yes. Several decades ago may have been a good time to move Downtown
    as was pretty much deteriorating: "everything" moved to the Malls and 'shopping Downtown Davenport' was no longer. Recently a return to
    Downtown, so would be difficult/expensive to move it. ...They'll figure
    it out.


    As for the floodwall, slowly moving and read where consultants
    familiar with projects of this size will be called in.
    So maybe something will be in place for the next flood season... ;)
    Unfortunately not. Actually there is minor flooding going on
    currently: the Mississippi and other local rivers are from close to to just above flood stage -- not enough to make it necessary to wade
    through Downtown Davenport but some streets have been closed downriver.
    Just not so spectacular, so doesn't make the news.... Like the
    ongoing flood risk anytime there's some wind and somewhat strong
    winds along the Lake Ontario shoreline...

    Right. The current/recent flooding is hitting our news because is a
    local item; not going nationally as not overly spectacular. LeClaire
    Park along the River is flooded - pretty much floods to some degree
    every year.


    activity at the nest. ... Post from a week ago: of the four eagles
    they're tracking (I'm guessing the two form this year and two a
    previous year) three are in northern Wisconsin and one was up there and
    returned to the Quad Cities area (here). His tracking map indicated in
    an area downriver from Arsenal Island (I'm upriver and the parents'
    nest is a few miles further upriver).
    So possibly decided that your area was a nice place to settle after
    all... :)
    Apparently! Don't know if the one young eagle would eventually take
    over his parents' nest - would think build his own and would be nice
    if the new site was viewable. Guess just wait and find out!
    Guess so... ;) Have to find a mate first, too....
    True -- haven't read any comments on that.
    So, yes, just wait and see.... :)

    The website comments have been updated but only as to storage by month/
    season. I take a quick look every so often at the webcams but haven't
    seen any activity. Well, does look like the cameras have been
    electronically moved: backed off some - not doing a close-up.


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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Wed Oct 23 15:13:26 2019
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 09-Oct-2019 09:27 <=-

    Back from the (hopefully) last trip of the year... ;)

    That could be a little confusing! Here Kimberly Rd. is generally
    east- west from one end of Davenport to the other; gets into Bettendorf
    and almost immediately takes a 90ø turn east down to the River. (?!)
    No idea why -- like you mentioned there is probably a historic reason.
    Which is the older municipality, Bettendorf or Davenport...? Maybe it
    was the safest way to go down to the River, or there was> a
    particular dock there....
    Davenport is older; Bettendorf originally was a 'bedroom community'.
    As for why Kimberly Rd. makes that right angle turn, no idea other than
    a guess of finishing the street off. It's about forty blocks parallel
    to the Mississippi River and has always been a major east-west thoroughfare. Maybe years ago (before Bettendorf) it made sense to
    make a turn at the end of Davenport to allow the road to finish some
    place logical, or at least connect to the other east-west roads.

    As good a reason as any... :)

    ...If one continues straight from Davenport's Kimberly Rd. goes into
    Bettendorf's Spruce Hills Drive. It is hilly, maybe was a patch of
    spruce woods originally?
    I'd guess that Kimberly Rd was the original road, and when they
    wanted to put in a road up the hill, it got the new name... and might
    have been plenty of spruces there originally... or at the end of the
    road... ;)
    Or "we spruced up that hill" and got contracted! <g>

    I like my guess better... <G>

    People can go down to the Barge Canal, still much in use, to see how
    the locks and dams work... there are regular river boat cruises here,
    in various parts of the system, too... Our high school class did that
    twice for a reunion activity... a dinner cruise... :)
    Was anyone suspicious of the 'fresh fish' dinner option?!
    ;) I don't recall if we chose that as one of the options to be
    available.... ;) We did it for our 40th, to be a little different,
    and then again for our 45th because it had been so much fun... We
    did the Sam Patch one first, and then a slightly larger one, on a
    different section of the canal, the second time... :)
    Sounds like a good celebration!

    It was... :) And well enjoyed... :) For our 50th we did the dinner at
    a party house... and had a good time there, too... :)

    So recovery is continuing apace... ;)
    Yes. To me the smart thing to do would be to re-establish out of
    areas of future potential flooding but then that single requirement
    isn't always logically possible: moving inland a few additional blocks
    and one is out of downtown and into residential. About a dozen blocks
    up the hill one gets into another mostly business section but it's not
    with a 'downtown feel'.
    I guess they'll just have to weigh the risk/benefits... Short of
    moving the whole business section further from the River, I'd
    guess they'd want to stay where the business is... :)
    IMO yes. Several decades ago may have been a good time to move
    Downtown as was pretty much deteriorating: "everything" moved to the
    Malls and 'shopping Downtown Davenport' was no longer. Recently a
    return to Downtown, so would be difficult/expensive to move it. ...They'll figure it out.

    I'm sure they will... :)

    As for the floodwall, slowly moving and read where consultants
    familiar with projects of this size will be called in.
    So maybe something will be in place for the next flood season... ;)
    Unfortunately not. Actually there is minor flooding going on
    currently: the Mississippi and other local rivers are from close to to
    just above flood stage -- not enough to make it necessary to wade
    through Downtown Davenport but some streets have been closed downriver.
    Just not so spectacular, so doesn't make the news.... Like the
    ongoing flood risk anytime there's some wind and somewhat strong
    winds along the Lake Ontario shoreline...
    Right. The current/recent flooding is hitting our news because is a
    local item; not going nationally as not overly spectacular. LeClaire
    Park along the River is flooded - pretty much floods to some degree
    every year.

    So a certain amount of the flooding is just to be expected... It's only
    when it is extra high and persistent that it really is newsworthy...

    So possibly decided that your area was a nice place to settle after
    all... :)
    Apparently! Don't know if the one young eagle would eventually take
    over his parents' nest - would think build his own and would be nice
    if the new site was viewable. Guess just wait and find out!
    Guess so... ;) Have to find a mate first, too....
    True -- haven't read any comments on that.
    So, yes, just wait and see.... :)
    The website comments have been updated but only as to storage by
    month/ season. I take a quick look every so often at the webcams but haven't seen any activity. Well, does look like the cameras have been electronically moved: backed off some - not doing a close-up.

    The season for nesting won't be until the spring... now things are more
    on hold naturally... ;)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Fri Oct 25 08:16:00 2019

    Hi Nancy!

    Back from the (hopefully) last trip of the year... ;)

    Welcome back!

    That could be a little confusing! Here Kimberly Rd. is generally
    east- west from one end of Davenport to the other; gets into Bettendorf
    and almost immediately takes a 90ø turn east down to the River. (?!)
    No idea why -- like you mentioned there is probably a historic reason.
    Which is the older municipality, Bettendorf or Davenport...? Maybe it
    was the safest way to go down to the River, or there was> a
    particular dock there....
    Davenport is older; Bettendorf originally was a 'bedroom community'.
    As for why Kimberly Rd. makes that right angle turn, no idea other than
    a guess of finishing the street off. It's about forty blocks parallel
    to the Mississippi River and has always been a major east-west thoroughfare. Maybe years ago (before Bettendorf) it made sense to
    make a turn at the end of Davenport to allow the road to finish some
    place logical, or at least connect to the other east-west roads.
    As good a reason as any... :)

    "That's my story an' I'm stickin' with it!" <g> To me would be one of
    those fun side-excursions to ask/find out why but I wouldn't want to get
    deeper than the surface. First question would be "who is 'Kimberly'?",
    and then "we're off!" <say that horse race announcer style>.


    ...If one continues straight from Davenport's Kimberly Rd. goes into
    Bettendorf's Spruce Hills Drive. It is hilly, maybe was a patch of
    spruce woods originally?
    I'd guess that Kimberly Rd was the original road, and when they
    wanted to put in a road up the hill, it got the new name... and might
    have been plenty of spruces there originally... or at the end of the
    road... ;)
    Or "we spruced up that hill" and got contracted! <g>
    I like my guess better... <G>

    See what happens when on starts asking questions? <bg>


    People can go down to the Barge Canal, still much in use, to see how
    the locks and dams work... there are regular river boat cruises here,
    in various parts of the system, too... Our high school class did that
    twice for a reunion activity... a dinner cruise... :)
    Was anyone suspicious of the 'fresh fish' dinner option?!
    ;) I don't recall if we chose that as one of the options to be
    available.... ;) We did it for our 40th, to be a little different,
    and then again for our 45th because it had been so much fun... We
    did the Sam Patch one first, and then a slightly larger one, on a
    different section of the canal, the second time... :)
    Sounds like a good celebration!
    It was... :) And well enjoyed... :) For our 50th we did the
    dinner at a party house... and had a good time there, too... :)

    Good. :) ...I'm trying to think of a 'party house' around here. Know
    you're not implying the wild college toga event <chuckle> but a banquet
    hall type event in a home environment. ...Probably are some.


    So recovery is continuing apace... ;)
    Yes. To me the smart thing to do would be to re-establish out of
    areas of future potential flooding but then that single requirement
    isn't always logically possible: moving inland a few additional blocks
    and one is out of downtown and into residential. About a dozen blocks
    up the hill one gets into another mostly business section but it's not
    with a 'downtown feel'.
    I guess they'll just have to weigh the risk/benefits... Short of
    moving the whole business section further from the River, I'd
    guess they'd want to stay where the business is... :)
    IMO yes. Several decades ago may have been a good time to move
    Downtown as was pretty much deteriorating: "everything" moved to the
    Malls and 'shopping Downtown Davenport' was no longer. Recently a
    return to Downtown, so would be difficult/expensive to move it.
    ...They'll figure it out.
    I'm sure they will... :)

    They might want to get movin': the Mississippi has above flood stage by
    about half a foot the past couple of weeks and predicted to stay above
    for at least another few weeks. Some roads were closed but all have re-opened; just some land along the River is home to fishes.


    As for the floodwall, slowly moving and read where consultants
    familiar with projects of this size will be called in.
    So maybe something will be in place for the next flood season... ;)
    Unfortunately not. Actually there is minor flooding going on
    currently: the Mississippi and other local rivers are from close to to
    just above flood stage -- not enough to make it necessary to wade
    through Downtown Davenport but some streets have been closed downriver.
    Just not so spectacular, so doesn't make the news.... Like the
    ongoing flood risk anytime there's some wind and somewhat strong
    winds along the Lake Ontario shoreline...
    Right. The current/recent flooding is hitting our news because is a
    local item; not going nationally as not overly spectacular. LeClaire
    Park along the River is flooded - pretty much floods to some degree
    every year.
    So a certain amount of the flooding is just to be expected...
    It's only when it is extra high and persistent that it really is newsworthy...

    Yes: not unusual to see parks, trails, etc., along the River under a
    little water in the Spring/early Summer; when it starts to lap at the
    streets alongside we've got another major flood going on.


    So possibly decided that your area was a nice place to settle after
    all... :)
    Apparently! Don't know if the one young eagle would eventually take
    over his parents' nest - would think build his own and would be nice
    if the new site was viewable. Guess just wait and find out!
    Guess so... ;) Have to find a mate first, too....
    True -- haven't read any comments on that.
    So, yes, just wait and see.... :)
    The website comments have been updated but only as to storage by
    month/ season. I take a quick look every so often at the webcams but haven't seen any activity. Well, does look like the cameras have been electronically moved: backed off some - not doing a close-up.
    The season for nesting won't be until the spring... now things
    are more on hold naturally... ;)

    Are you saying things have cooled off?! ...36ø this morning (Friday,
    October 25th); they're talking about the probability of a hard freeze
    late next week and maybe some snow flurries; ansiweather has a snowflake
    for Monday's forecast. Might be time for me to stop considering wearing long-sleeved shirts and start wearing!


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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Thu Oct 31 01:19:38 2019
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 25-Oct-2019 08:16 <=-

    Back from the (hopefully) last trip of the year... ;)
    Welcome back!

    Thank you... :)

    Davenport is older; Bettendorf originally was a 'bedroom community'.
    As for why Kimberly Rd. makes that right angle turn, no idea other than
    a guess of finishing the street off. It's about forty blocks parallel
    to the Mississippi River and has always been a major east-west
    thoroughfare. Maybe years ago (before Bettendorf) it made sense to
    make a turn at the end of Davenport to allow the road to finish some
    place logical, or at least connect to the other east-west roads.
    As good a reason as any... :)
    "That's my story an' I'm stickin' with it!" <g> To me would be one of those fun side-excursions to ask/find out why but I wouldn't want to
    get deeper than the surface. First question would be "who is 'Kimberly'?", and then "we're off!" <say that horse race announcer
    style>.

    It's the sort of thing that a local history section of your library
    probably would have information on... :)

    ...If one continues straight from Davenport's Kimberly Rd. goes into
    Bettendorf's Spruce Hills Drive. It is hilly, maybe was a patch of
    spruce woods originally?
    I'd guess that Kimberly Rd was the original road, and when they
    wanted to put in a road up the hill, it got the new name... and might
    have been plenty of spruces there originally... or at the end of the
    road... ;)
    Or "we spruced up that hill" and got contracted! <g>
    I like my guess better... <G>
    See what happens when on starts asking questions? <bg>

    People start getting silly....? <G>

    We did it for our 40th, to be a little different, and then again
    for our 45th because it had been so much fun... We did the Sam Patch
    one first, and then a slightly larger one, on a different section of
    the canal, the second time... :)
    Sounds like a good celebration!
    It was... :) And well enjoyed... :) For our 50th we did the
    dinner at a party house... and had a good time there, too... :)
    Good. :) ...I'm trying to think of a 'party house' around here. Know you're not implying the wild college toga event <chuckle> but a
    banquet hall type event in a home environment. ...Probably are some.

    Not so much a home environment... It's a banquet hall that is
    free-standing... and the restaurant there only used for events, such as weddings, anniversaries and reunions and the like... Around here we call
    such an establishment a party house.... quite a few of them around here,
    but mostly in the quieter areas of the suburbs... This particular one
    was tucked down a dead end road off a major thoroughfare, in an almost
    rural setting.... I'd brought my niece to that particular place for a
    wedding before we used it for our school reunion.... :)

    I guess they'll just have to weigh the risk/benefits... Short of
    moving the whole business section further from the River, I'd
    guess they'd want to stay where the business is... :)
    IMO yes. Several decades ago may have been a good time to move
    Downtown as was pretty much deteriorating: "everything" moved to the
    Malls and 'shopping Downtown Davenport' was no longer. Recently a
    return to Downtown, so would be difficult/expensive to move it.
    ...They'll figure it out.
    I'm sure they will... :)
    They might want to get movin': the Mississippi has above flood stage
    by about half a foot the past couple of weeks and predicted to stay
    above for at least another few weeks. Some roads were closed but all
    have re-opened; just some land along the River is home to fishes.

    That doesn't bode all that well for next spring, does it....

    Right. The current/recent flooding is hitting our news because is a
    local item; not going nationally as not overly spectacular. LeClaire
    Park along the River is flooded - pretty much floods to some degree
    every year.
    So a certain amount of the flooding is just to be expected... It's
    only when it is extra high and persistent that it really is
    newsworthy...
    Yes: not unusual to see parks, trails, etc., along the River under a little water in the Spring/early Summer; when it starts to lap at the streets alongside we've got another major flood going on.

    Is the current flooding less usual, then....?

    The website comments have been updated but only as to storage by
    month/ season. I take a quick look every so often at the webcams but
    haven't seen any activity. Well, does look like the cameras have been
    electronically moved: backed off some - not doing a close-up.
    The season for nesting won't be until the spring... now things are
    more on hold naturally... ;)
    Are you saying things have cooled off?! ...36ø this morning (Friday, October 25th); they're talking about the probability of a hard freeze
    late next week and maybe some snow flurries; ansiweather has a
    snowflake for Monday's forecast. Might be time for me to stop
    considering wearing long-sleeved shirts and start wearing!

    Just might be... <G> I don't think we've had a hard freeze yet,
    although there've been some lows near-freezing... and so far no snow
    here, either, although the forecast for Sat night and Sunday contain
    the possibility of rain or snow showers.... shouldn't be sticking yet, though..... ;)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Thu Oct 31 12:39:00 2019

    Hi Nancy!

    Davenport is older; Bettendorf originally was a 'bedroom community'.
    As for why Kimberly Rd. makes that right angle turn, no idea other than
    a guess of finishing the street off. It's about forty blocks parallel
    to the Mississippi River and has always been a major east-west
    thoroughfare. Maybe years ago (before Bettendorf) it made sense to
    make a turn at the end of Davenport to allow the road to finish some
    place logical, or at least connect to the other east-west roads.
    As good a reason as any... :)
    "That's my story an' I'm stickin' with it!" <g> To me would be one of those fun side-excursions to ask/find out why but I wouldn't want to
    get deeper than the surface. First question would be "who is 'Kimberly'?", and then "we're off!" <say that horse race announcer
    style>.
    It's the sort of thing that a local history section of your
    library probably would have information on... :)

    More than likely the Downtown/Main Library in Davenport; I have not been
    there but have heard they have an excellent reference section for
    Davenport history. (Good news: the Library was not affected by the
    flooding.)


    ...If one continues straight from Davenport's Kimberly Rd. goes into
    Bettendorf's Spruce Hills Drive. It is hilly, maybe was a patch of
    spruce woods originally?
    I'd guess that Kimberly Rd was the original road, and when they
    wanted to put in a road up the hill, it got the new name... and might
    have been plenty of spruces there originally... or at the end of the
    road... ;)
    Or "we spruced up that hill" and got contracted! <g>
    I like my guess better... <G>
    See what happens when on starts asking questions? <bg>
    People start getting silly....? <G>

    Who?!


    We did it for our 40th, to be a little different, and then again
    for our 45th because it had been so much fun... We did the Sam Patch
    one first, and then a slightly larger one, on a different section of
    the canal, the second time... :)
    Sounds like a good celebration!
    It was... :) And well enjoyed... :) For our 50th we did the
    dinner at a party house... and had a good time there, too... :)
    Good. :) ...I'm trying to think of a 'party house' around here. Know you're not implying the wild college toga event <chuckle> but a
    banquet hall type event in a home environment. ...Probably are some.
    Not so much a home environment... It's a banquet hall that is free-standing... and the restaurant there only used for events,
    such as weddings, anniversaries and reunions and the like...
    Around here we call such an establishment a party house.... quite
    a few of them around here, but mostly in the quieter areas of the suburbs... This particular one was tucked down a dead end road
    off a major thoroughfare, in an almost rural setting.... I'd
    brought my niece to that particular place for a wedding before we
    used it for our school reunion.... :)

    Ah, OK. Regional terminologies. We do have similar sites locally;
    OTTOMH not sure about the kitchen but there is essentially a house on
    the nearby golf course and park one can rent for receptions, etc.
    Davenport has the Credit Island Lodge - yes, that got flooded but had
    been rebuilt a few years back due to a fire and the first floor level is
    more or less minimal so when it does flood not too much to move out (to upstairs) and repair. (The island was a site for fur, etc., trading
    back in the Indian Days and hence the name.)


    I guess they'll just have to weigh the risk/benefits... Short of
    moving the whole business section further from the River, I'd
    guess they'd want to stay where the business is... :)
    IMO yes. Several decades ago may have been a good time to move
    Downtown as was pretty much deteriorating: "everything" moved to the
    Malls and 'shopping Downtown Davenport' was no longer. Recently a
    return to Downtown, so would be difficult/expensive to move it.
    ...They'll figure it out.
    I'm sure they will... :)
    They might want to get movin': the Mississippi has above flood stage
    by about half a foot the past couple of weeks and predicted to stay
    above for at least another few weeks. Some roads were closed but all
    have re-opened; just some land along the River is home to fishes.
    That doesn't bode all that well for next spring, does it....

    There is a current concern which I hadn't hadn't heard of until lately.
    Some of the area rivers including the Mississippi are still at flood
    stage and that is causing a potential problem for the roadways nearby.
    The road bed is rock, gravel, etc., to allow good drainage, but that
    also allows the water from the river, stream. etc., to flow in to the
    road bed. Water expands when it freezes, so if there is water in the
    drainage bed could expand and damage the road this winter.



    Right. The current/recent flooding is hitting our news because is a
    local item; not going nationally as not overly spectacular. LeClaire
    Park along the River is flooded - pretty much floods to some degree
    every year.
    So a certain amount of the flooding is just to be expected... It's
    only when it is extra high and persistent that it really is
    newsworthy...
    Yes: not unusual to see parks, trails, etc., along the River under a little water in the Spring/early Summer; when it starts to lap at the streets alongside we've got another major flood going on.
    Is the current flooding less usual, then....?

    Generally right at flood stage, so generally no surface problems:
    riverside parks and streets are open. LIS a bit ago, some of the
    elevated water levels isn't allowing the road bed to dry out. IIRC the Mississippi has been at or over flood stage for most of the year.


    The website comments have been updated but only as to storage by
    month/ season. I take a quick look every so often at the webcams but
    haven't seen any activity. Well, does look like the cameras have been
    electronically moved: backed off some - not doing a close-up.
    The season for nesting won't be until the spring... now things are
    more on hold naturally... ;)
    Are you saying things have cooled off?! ...36ø this morning (Friday, October 25th); they're talking about the probability of a hard freeze
    late next week and maybe some snow flurries; ansiweather has a
    snowflake for Monday's forecast. Might be time for me to stop
    considering wearing long-sleeved shirts and start wearing!
    Just might be... <G> I don't think we've had a hard freeze yet,
    although there've been some lows near-freezing... and so far no
    snow here, either, although the forecast for Sat night and Sunday
    contain the possibility of rain or snow showers.... shouldn't be
    sticking yet, though..... ;)

    <Looking out> Still snowing; snow plow went by about a half-hour ago.
    And yes, I did switch over to long-sleeved shirts - for some reason I do
    feel warmer!

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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Thu Nov 7 18:13:30 2019
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 31-Oct-2019 12:39 <=-

    As for why Kimberly Rd. makes that right angle turn, no idea other than
    a guess of finishing the street off. It's about forty blocks parallel
    to the Mississippi River and has always been a major east-west
    thoroughfare. Maybe years ago (before Bettendorf) it made sense to
    make a turn at the end of Davenport to allow the road to finish some
    place logical, or at least connect to the other east-west roads.
    As good a reason as any... :)
    "That's my story an' I'm stickin' with it!" <g> To me would be one of
    those fun side-excursions to ask/find out why but I wouldn't want to
    get deeper than the surface. First question would be "who is
    'Kimberly'?", and then "we're off!" <say that horse race announcer
    style>.
    It's the sort of thing that a local history section of your
    library probably would have information on... :)
    More than likely the Downtown/Main Library in Davenport; I have not
    been there but have heard they have an excellent reference section for Davenport history. (Good news: the Library was not affected by the flooding.)

    Very good news... and yes, that does sound like a good place to look... :)

    For our 50th we did the dinner at a party house... and had a good
    time there, too... :)
    Good. :) ...I'm trying to think of a 'party house' around here. Know
    you're not implying the wild college toga event <chuckle> but a
    banquet hall type event in a home environment. ...Probably are some.
    Not so much a home environment... It's a banquet hall that is
    free-standing... and the restaurant there only used for events, such
    as weddings, anniversaries and reunions and the like... Around here we
    call such an establishment a party house.... quite a few of them
    around here, but mostly in the quieter areas of the suburbs... This
    particular one was tucked down a dead end road off a major
    thoroughfare, in an almost rural setting.... I'd brought my niece to
    that particular place for a wedding before we used it for our school
    reunion.... :)
    Ah, OK. Regional terminologies. We do have similar sites locally;
    OTTOMH not sure about the kitchen but there is essentially a house on
    the nearby golf course and park one can rent for receptions, etc.

    These will have an extensive kitchen, with a large room for the main
    event, and often a smaller room for a bar (sometimes just part of the
    main room), along with restrooms... And there is a staff that runs the establishment and the kitchen, so when you rent the space, you get full
    service with it... :)

    Davenport has the Credit Island Lodge - yes, that got flooded but had
    been rebuilt a few years back due to a fire and the first floor level
    is more or less minimal so when it does flood not too much to move out
    (to upstairs) and repair. (The island was a site for fur, etc.,
    trading back in the Indian Days and hence the name.)

    Ah, the name does makes sense with that history... :) We also have
    lodges (generally one-story) that are available to rent in the various
    local parks... those come with kitchen and restrooms, but one has to
    bring in one's own food and can cook it there themselves...

    They might want to get movin': the Mississippi has above flood stage
    by about half a foot the past couple of weeks and predicted to stay
    above for at least another few weeks. Some roads were closed but all
    have re-opened; just some land along the River is home to fishes.
    That doesn't bode all that well for next spring, does it....
    There is a current concern which I hadn't hadn't heard of until
    lately. Some of the area rivers including the Mississippi are still at flood stage and that is causing a potential problem for the roadways nearby. The road bed is rock, gravel, etc., to allow good drainage, but that also allows the water from the river, stream. etc., to flow in to
    the road bed. Water expands when it freezes, so if there is water in
    the drainage bed could expand and damage the road this winter.

    Yet another factor.... ;( That sounds like a problem that should have
    been thought of before.... but I suppose having the rivers stay at flood
    stage hasn't been that big a factor up till now....?

    So a certain amount of the flooding is just to be expected... It's
    only when it is extra high and persistent that it really is
    newsworthy...
    Yes: not unusual to see parks, trails, etc., along the River under a
    little water in the Spring/early Summer; when it starts to lap at the
    streets alongside we've got another major flood going on.
    Is the current flooding less usual, then....?
    Generally right at flood stage, so generally no surface problems: riverside parks and streets are open. LIS a bit ago, some of the
    elevated water levels isn't allowing the road bed to dry out. IIRC
    the Mississippi has been at or over flood stage for most of the year.

    Maybe it IS time to move everything further uphill.... ;0

    Are you saying things have cooled off?! ...36ø this morning (Friday,
    October 25th); they're talking about the probability of a hard freeze
    late next week and maybe some snow flurries; ansiweather has a
    snowflake for Monday's forecast. Might be time for me to stop
    considering wearing long-sleeved shirts and start wearing!
    Just might be... <G> I don't think we've had a hard freeze yet,
    although there've been some lows near-freezing... and so far no
    snow here, either, although the forecast for Sat night and Sunday
    contain the possibility of rain or snow showers.... shouldn't be
    sticking yet, though..... ;)
    <Looking out> Still snowing; snow plow went by about a half-hour ago.
    And yes, I did switch over to long-sleeved shirts - for some reason I
    do feel warmer!

    Well, yeah... one would think.... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Sat Nov 9 17:22:00 2019

    Hi Nancy!

    As for why Kimberly Rd. makes that right angle turn, no idea other than
    a guess of finishing the street off. It's about forty blocks parallel
    to the Mississippi River and has always been a major east-west
    thoroughfare. Maybe years ago (before Bettendorf) it made sense to
    make a turn at the end of Davenport to allow the road to finish some
    place logical, or at least connect to the other east-west roads.
    As good a reason as any... :)
    "That's my story an' I'm stickin' with it!" <g> To me would be one of
    those fun side-excursions to ask/find out why but I wouldn't want to
    get deeper than the surface. First question would be "who is
    'Kimberly'?", and then "we're off!" <say that horse race announcer
    style>.
    It's the sort of thing that a local history section of your
    library probably would have information on... :)
    More than likely the Downtown/Main Library in Davenport; I have not
    been there but have heard they have an excellent reference section for Davenport history. (Good news: the Library was not affected by the flooding.)
    Very good news... and yes, that does sound like a good place to
    look... :)

    So maybe some day. Would be one of those things where I need to get in
    the 'mood': isn't a higher priority item, nothing's going to change one
    way or the other (thinking along the lines of researching to fight to
    save for historical reasons). Actually for that specific area might be
    more fun to research what's there currently. Corner is essentially a
    tiny park, though would seem like a good place for a gas station,
    convenience store (there is one across the street). (We don't need
    another gas station/convencience store, and overall I prefer seeing the
    grass and trees there -- cue Joni Mitchell and "they paved paradise".)
    Next "lot" over is what I'm slightly curious about: largish flattened
    mound with a short yagi-style sticking out of it. Maybe three feet off
    the ground; looks like a regular TV antenna. Not-so-secret bunker?!
    Too far away from the creek to be monitoring that.




    For our 50th we did the dinner at a party house... and had a good
    time there, too... :)
    Good. :) ...I'm trying to think of a 'party house' around here. Know
    you're not implying the wild college toga event <chuckle> but a
    banquet hall type event in a home environment. ...Probably are some.
    Not so much a home environment... It's a banquet hall that is
    free-standing... and the restaurant there only used for events, such
    as weddings, anniversaries and reunions and the like... Around here we
    call such an establishment a party house.... quite a few of them
    around here, but mostly in the quieter areas of the suburbs... This
    particular one was tucked down a dead end road off a major
    thoroughfare, in an almost rural setting.... I'd brought my niece to
    that particular place for a wedding before we used it for our school
    reunion.... :)
    Ah, OK. Regional terminologies. We do have similar sites locally;
    OTTOMH not sure about the kitchen but there is essentially a house on
    the nearby golf course and park one can rent for receptions, etc.
    These will have an extensive kitchen, with a large room for the
    main event, and often a smaller room for a bar (sometimes just
    part of the main room), along with restrooms... And there is a
    staff that runs the establishment and the kitchen, so when you
    rent the space, you get full service with it... :)

    Probably the same here. The few I've been to had the event room, can't
    recall the bar option, kitchen area, rest rooms. Don't recall the
    staffing arrangements. Of two I'm recalling better both had an
    'overseeing' staff member or two present: familiar with the site and
    helped the brought-in staff find things.


    Davenport has the Credit Island Lodge - yes, that got flooded but had
    been rebuilt a few years back due to a fire and the first floor level
    is more or less minimal so when it does flood not too much to move out
    (to upstairs) and repair. (The island was a site for fur, etc.,
    trading back in the Indian Days and hence the name.)
    Ah, the name does makes sense with that history... :) We also
    have lodges (generally one-story) that are available to rent in
    the various local parks... those come with kitchen and restrooms,
    but one has to bring in one's own food and can cook it there
    themselves...

    Right: quite a few of those options around here too.


    They might want to get movin': the Mississippi has above flood stage
    by about half a foot the past couple of weeks and predicted to stay
    above for at least another few weeks. Some roads were closed but all
    have re-opened; just some land along the River is home to fishes.
    That doesn't bode all that well for next spring, does it....
    There is a current concern which I hadn't hadn't heard of until
    lately. Some of the area rivers including the Mississippi are still at flood stage and that is causing a potential problem for the roadways nearby. The road bed is rock, gravel, etc., to allow good drainage, but that also allows the water from the river, stream. etc., to flow in to
    the road bed. Water expands when it freezes, so if there is water in
    the drainage bed could expand and damage the road this winter.
    Yet another factor.... ;( That sounds like a problem that should
    have been thought of before.... but I suppose having the rivers
    stay at flood stage hasn't been that big a factor up till
    now....?

    The staying at flood stage for so long is extremely rare - closer to
    never. Normally the rivers, etc., do a normal yearly drop of their
    water level, which drains the water table to where it belongs and the
    road beds are emptied. Just lots of rain, enough to keep the water
    levels up near/slightly over flooding and not drop back to normal river levels.



    So a certain amount of the flooding is just to be expected... It's
    only when it is extra high and persistent that it really is
    newsworthy...
    Yes: not unusual to see parks, trails, etc., along the River under a
    little water in the Spring/early Summer; when it starts to lap at the
    streets alongside we've got another major flood going on.
    Is the current flooding less usual, then....?
    Generally right at flood stage, so generally no surface problems: riverside parks and streets are open. LIS a bit ago, some of the
    elevated water levels isn't allowing the road bed to dry out. IIRC
    the Mississippi has been at or over flood stage for most of the year.
    Maybe it IS time to move everything further uphill.... ;0

    That would be quite a job! Have heard where it's been done, just not on
    such a grand scale as would be needed locally. Recall where a small
    town in the South (Louisiana?) moved a relatively short distance -- mile
    or two? -- just enough to be sufficiently elevated so as to not be
    flooded.


    Are you saying things have cooled off?! ...36ø this morning (Friday,
    October 25th); they're talking about the probability of a hard freeze
    late next week and maybe some snow flurries; ansiweather has a
    snowflake for Monday's forecast. Might be time for me to stop
    considering wearing long-sleeved shirts and start wearing!
    Just might be... <G> I don't think we've had a hard freeze yet,
    although there've been some lows near-freezing... and so far no
    snow here, either, although the forecast for Sat night and Sunday
    contain the possibility of rain or snow showers.... shouldn't be
    sticking yet, though..... ;)
    <Looking out> Still snowing; snow plow went by about a half-hour ago.
    And yes, I did switch over to long-sleeved shirts - for some reason I
    do feel warmer!
    Well, yeah... one would think.... :)

    I know and have known a few people who never 'winterize'. One guy I
    know wears short sleeves all year round. OTOH I've also known people
    who wear long sleeves all the time and don't get hot in summer.


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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Sat Nov 16 21:24:34 2019
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 09-Nov-2019 17:22 <=-

    those fun side-excursions to ask/find out why but I wouldn't want to
    get deeper than the surface. First question would be "who is
    'Kimberly'?", and then "we're off!" <say that horse race announcer
    style>.
    It's the sort of thing that a local history section of your
    library probably would have information on... :)
    More than likely the Downtown/Main Library in Davenport; I have not
    been there but have heard they have an excellent reference section for
    Davenport history. (Good news: the Library was not affected by the
    flooding.)
    Very good news... and yes, that does sound like a good place to look..
    So maybe some day. Would be one of those things where I need to get
    in the 'mood': isn't a higher priority item, nothing's going to change
    one way or the other (thinking along the lines of researching to fight
    to save for historical reasons). Actually for that specific area might
    be more fun to research what's there currently. Corner is essentially
    a tiny park, though would seem like a good place for a gas station, convenience store (there is one across the street). (We don't need another gas station/convenience store, and overall I prefer seeing
    the grass and trees there -- cue Joni Mitchell and "they paved
    paradise".) Next "lot" over is what I'm slightly curious about: largish flattened mound with a short yagi-style sticking out of it. Maybe
    three feet off the ground; looks like a regular TV antenna.
    Not-so-secret bunker?! Too far away from the creek to be monitoring
    that.

    That does sound like an interesting corner... :)

    For our 50th we did the dinner at a party house... and had a good
    time there, too... :)
    Good. :) ...I'm trying to think of a 'party house' around here. Know
    you're not implying the wild college toga event <chuckle> but a
    banquet hall type event in a home environment. ...Probably are some.
    Not so much a home environment... It's a banquet hall that is
    free-standing... and the restaurant there only used for events, such
    as weddings, anniversaries and reunions and the like... Around here we
    call such an establishment a party house.... quite a few of them
    around here, but mostly in the quieter areas of the suburbs... This
    particular one was tucked down a dead end road off a major
    thoroughfare, in an almost rural setting.... I'd brought my niece to
    that particular place for a wedding before we used it for our school
    reunion.... :)
    Ah, OK. Regional terminologies. We do have similar sites locally;
    OTTOMH not sure about the kitchen but there is essentially a house on
    the nearby golf course and park one can rent for receptions, etc.
    These will have an extensive kitchen, with a large room for the main
    event, and often a smaller room for a bar (sometimes just part of the
    main room), along with restrooms... And there is a staff that runs
    the establishment and the kitchen, so when you rent the space, you
    get full service with it... :)
    Probably the same here. The few I've been to had the event room,
    can't recall the bar option, kitchen area, rest rooms. Don't recall
    the staffing arrangements. Of two I'm recalling better both had an 'overseeing' staff member or two present: familiar with the site and helped the brought-in staff find things.

    So possibly between what we call a party-house and the more self-serve
    lodges in the parks here... Another way to describe the party house here
    is that it's a restaurant that is only open to private parties, not to
    the general public... :)

    Davenport has the Credit Island Lodge - yes, that got flooded but had
    been rebuilt a few years back due to a fire and the first floor level
    is more or less minimal so when it does flood not too much to move out
    (to upstairs) and repair. (The island was a site for fur, etc.,
    trading back in the Indian Days and hence the name.)
    Ah, the name does makes sense with that history... :) We also have
    lodges (generally one-story) that are available to rent in the various
    local parks... those come with kitchen and restrooms, but one has to
    bring in one's own food and can cook it there themselves...
    Right: quite a few of those options around here too.

    That tends to be rather a common option... :)

    They might want to get movin': the Mississippi has above flood stage
    by about half a foot the past couple of weeks and predicted to stay
    above for at least another few weeks. Some roads were closed but all
    have re-opened; just some land along the River is home to fishes.
    That doesn't bode all that well for next spring, does it....
    There is a current concern which I hadn't hadn't heard of until
    lately. Some of the area rivers including the Mississippi are still at
    flood stage and that is causing a potential problem for the roadways
    nearby. The road bed is rock, gravel, etc., to allow good drainage, but
    that also allows the water from the river, stream. etc., to flow in to
    the road bed. Water expands when it freezes, so if there is water in
    the drainage bed could expand and damage the road this winter.
    Yet another factor.... ;( That sounds like a problem that should
    have been thought of before.... but I suppose having the rivers
    stay at flood stage hasn't been that big a factor up till now....?
    The staying at flood stage for so long is extremely rare - closer to never. Normally the rivers, etc., do a normal yearly drop of their
    water level, which drains the water table to where it belongs and the
    road beds are emptied. Just lots of rain, enough to keep the water
    levels up near/slightly over flooding and not drop back to normal
    river levels.

    Let's hope that it isn't a new normal... and that things will be back to
    the more expected next year...!

    Is the current flooding less usual, then....?
    Generally right at flood stage, so generally no surface problems:
    riverside parks and streets are open. LIS a bit ago, some of the
    elevated water levels isn't allowing the road bed to dry out. IIRC
    the Mississippi has been at or over flood stage for most of the year.
    Maybe it IS time to move everything further uphill.... ;0
    That would be quite a job! Have heard where it's been done, just not
    on such a grand scale as would be needed locally. Recall where a small town in the South (Louisiana?) moved a relatively short distance --
    mile or two? -- just enough to be sufficiently elevated so as to not be flooded.

    It would be quite a job, and I was mostly being a little facetious...
    Even a small town would find it quite the job, I'm sure....

    Might be time for me to stop
    considering wearing long-sleeved shirts and start wearing!
    Just might be... <G> I don't think we've had a hard freeze yet,
    although there've been some lows near-freezing... and so far no
    snow here, either, although the forecast for Sat night and Sunday
    contain the possibility of rain or snow showers.... shouldn't be
    sticking yet, though..... ;)

    And now, we've not only had a hard freeze, but have stayed cold for
    almost a week now... and got a foot of snow.... which also is still
    around... As some of announcers have been saying, we're getting January
    weather in November! Today the high is only 27ø, but it's supposed to
    be in the 30s again tomorrow and Monday... they were talking about the
    40s but that keeps moving down the way more...

    <Looking out> Still snowing; snow plow went by about a half-hour ago.
    And yes, I did switch over to long-sleeved shirts - for some reason I
    do feel warmer!
    Well, yeah... one would think.... :)
    I know and have known a few people who never 'winterize'. One guy I
    know wears short sleeves all year round. OTOH I've also known people
    who wear long sleeves all the time and don't get hot in summer.

    There are indeed all kinds.... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Sun Nov 17 11:10:00 2019

    Hi Nancy!

    those fun side-excursions to ask/find out why but I wouldn't want to
    get deeper than the surface. First question would be "who is
    'Kimberly'?", and then "we're off!" <say that horse race announcer
    style>.
    It's the sort of thing that a local history section of your
    library probably would have information on... :)
    More than likely the Downtown/Main Library in Davenport; I have not
    been there but have heard they have an excellent reference section for
    Davenport history. (Good news: the Library was not affected by the
    flooding.)
    Very good news... and yes, that does sound like a good place to look..
    So maybe some day. Would be one of those things where I need to get
    in the 'mood': isn't a higher priority item, nothing's going to change
    one way or the other (thinking along the lines of researching to fight
    to save for historical reasons). Actually for that specific area might
    be more fun to research what's there currently. Corner is essentially
    a tiny park, though would seem like a good place for a gas station, convenience store (there is one across the street). (We don't need another gas station/convenience store, and overall I prefer seeing
    the grass and trees there -- cue Joni Mitchell and "they paved
    paradise".) Next "lot" over is what I'm slightly curious about: largish flattened mound with a short yagi-style sticking out of it. Maybe
    three feet off the ground; looks like a regular TV antenna.
    Not-so-secret bunker?! Too far away from the creek to be monitoring
    that.
    That does sound like an interesting corner... :)

    I had looked on Google Maps and nothing identified. Have been told that
    area used to be road for a gentle curve from the E-W Kimberly Rd. to the
    N-S one; was modified when the interchange with I-74 was constructed (I
    think early 70''s -- before I moved out here). Doesn't explain the
    'secret bunker' thing.



    For our 50th we did the dinner at a party house... and had a good
    time there, too... :)
    Good. :) ...I'm trying to think of a 'party house' around here. Know
    you're not implying the wild college toga event <chuckle> but a
    banquet hall type event in a home environment. ...Probably are some.
    Not so much a home environment... It's a banquet hall that is
    free-standing... and the restaurant there only used for events, such
    as weddings, anniversaries and reunions and the like... Around here we
    call such an establishment a party house.... quite a few of them
    around here, but mostly in the quieter areas of the suburbs... This
    particular one was tucked down a dead end road off a major
    thoroughfare, in an almost rural setting.... I'd brought my niece to
    that particular place for a wedding before we used it for our school
    reunion.... :)
    Ah, OK. Regional terminologies. We do have similar sites locally;
    OTTOMH not sure about the kitchen but there is essentially a house on
    the nearby golf course and park one can rent for receptions, etc.
    These will have an extensive kitchen, with a large room for the main
    event, and often a smaller room for a bar (sometimes just part of the
    main room), along with restrooms... And there is a staff that runs
    the establishment and the kitchen, so when you rent the space, you
    get full service with it... :)
    Probably the same here. The few I've been to had the event room,
    can't recall the bar option, kitchen area, rest rooms. Don't recall
    the staffing arrangements. Of two I'm recalling better both had an 'overseeing' staff member or two present: familiar with the site and helped the brought-in staff find things.
    So possibly between what we call a party-house and the more
    self-serve lodges in the parks here... Another way to describe
    the party house here is that it's a restaurant that is only open
    to private parties, not to the general public... :)

    Right. The ones I can think of out here generally use the word 'lodge'
    and state available for rental -- almost like there isn't a descriptor,
    one just knows: "Duck Creek Lodge", "Credit Island Lodge"... OTOH when
    one says "The Lodge" they mean the former restaurant and hotel.


    Davenport has the Credit Island Lodge - yes, that got flooded but had
    been rebuilt a few years back due to a fire and the first floor level
    is more or less minimal so when it does flood not too much to move out
    (to upstairs) and repair. (The island was a site for fur, etc.,
    trading back in the Indian Days and hence the name.)
    Ah, the name does makes sense with that history... :) We also have
    lodges (generally one-story) that are available to rent in the various
    local parks... those come with kitchen and restrooms, but one has to
    bring in one's own food and can cook it there themselves...
    Right: quite a few of those options around here too.
    That tends to be rather a common option... :)

    Was looking up Duck Creek Lodge and for their gazebo area (separate from
    the house) has a seating capacity of 40 with no additional chairs
    allowed; the house portion has a capacity of 110 but I didn't see
    mention of who provides the seating, tables, etc. (Probably noted in
    the reservations section.) ..And then there are two shelters in the
    park which can be served, and yes, there are rest rooms nearby,


    They might want to get movin': the Mississippi has above flood stage
    by about half a foot the past couple of weeks and predicted to stay
    above for at least another few weeks. Some roads were closed but all
    have re-opened; just some land along the River is home to fishes.
    That doesn't bode all that well for next spring, does it....
    There is a current concern which I hadn't hadn't heard of until
    lately. Some of the area rivers including the Mississippi are still at
    flood stage and that is causing a potential problem for the roadways
    nearby. The road bed is rock, gravel, etc., to allow good drainage, but
    that also allows the water from the river, stream. etc., to flow in to
    the road bed. Water expands when it freezes, so if there is water in
    the drainage bed could expand and damage the road this winter.
    Yet another factor.... ;( That sounds like a problem that should
    have been thought of before.... but I suppose having the rivers
    stay at flood stage hasn't been that big a factor up till now....?
    The staying at flood stage for so long is extremely rare - closer to never. Normally the rivers, etc., do a normal yearly drop of their
    water level, which drains the water table to where it belongs and the
    road beds are emptied. Just lots of rain, enough to keep the water
    levels up near/slightly over flooding and not drop back to normal
    river levels.
    Let's hope that it isn't a new normal... and that things will be
    back to the more expected next year...!

    They're already issuing flood predictions for next year; I haven't taken
    the time to read them yet.


    Is the current flooding less usual, then....?
    Generally right at flood stage, so generally no surface problems:
    riverside parks and streets are open. LIS a bit ago, some of the
    elevated water levels isn't allowing the road bed to dry out. IIRC
    the Mississippi has been at or over flood stage for most of the year.
    Maybe it IS time to move everything further uphill.... ;0
    That would be quite a job! Have heard where it's been done, just not
    on such a grand scale as would be needed locally. Recall where a small town in the South (Louisiana?) moved a relatively short distance --
    mile or two? -- just enough to be sufficiently elevated so as to not be flooded.
    It would be quite a job, and I was mostly being a little
    facetious... Even a small town would find it quite the job, I'm
    sure....

    Right. I have seen houses moved -- slowly creeping down the street in
    two or three portions. (Originally had 'pieces' - seemed not quite appriopriate!) Probably impossible to move most of the business
    buildings as just too large. Building replacements would be a
    nightmare: currently the buildings fit together and the business owner
    makes do with what they have. If moving most would be doing the "it
    would be nice to have extra room" or sometimes a little less room, so
    the current jigsaw fit is lost.


    Might be time for me to stop
    considering wearing long-sleeved shirts and start wearing!
    Just might be... <G> I don't think we've had a hard freeze yet,
    although there've been some lows near-freezing... and so far no
    snow here, either, although the forecast for Sat night and Sunday
    contain the possibility of rain or snow showers.... shouldn't be
    sticking yet, though..... ;)
    And now, we've not only had a hard freeze, but have stayed cold
    for almost a week now... and got a foot of snow.... which also is
    still around... As some of announcers have been saying, we're
    getting January weather in November! Today the high is only 27ø,
    but it's supposed to be in the 30s again tomorrow and Monday...
    they were talking about the 40s but that keeps moving down the
    way more...

    We've been roughly ten degrees cooler than normal the past and current
    week. Next week is suppose to be warmer than it has been but still a
    little cooler than normal. Right now 35ø and last I heard a 3 mile
    visibility with the fog. Supposed to rain around noon.



    <Looking out> Still snowing; snow plow went by about a half-hour ago.
    And yes, I did switch over to long-sleeved shirts - for some reason I
    do feel warmer!
    Well, yeah... one would think.... :)
    I know and have known a few people who never 'winterize'. One guy I
    know wears short sleeves all year round. OTOH I've also known people
    who wear long sleeves all the time and don't get hot in summer.
    There are indeed all kinds.... :)

    For me it's just too hot to wear long sleeved shirts in the summer and
    too cold to wear short sleeved shirts in the winter. OTOH I did wear a
    suit jacket year round, though a short- or long sleeved shirt underneath depending on the season - unless hot-hot tempertures I was fine -- guess
    a little air circulation in the jacket sleeve!



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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Fri Nov 29 02:57:08 2019
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 17-Nov-2019 11:10 <=-

    Actually for that specific area might be more fun to research what's
    there currently. Corner is essentially a tiny park, though would seem
    like a good place for a gas station, convenience store (there is one
    across the street). (We don't need another gas station/convenience
    store, and overall I prefer seeing the grass and trees there -- cue
    Joni Mitchell and "they paved paradise".) Next "lot" over is what I'm
    slightly curious about: largish flattened mound with a short yagi-style
    sticking out of it. Maybe three feet off the ground; looks like a
    regular TV antenna. Not-so-secret bunker?! Too far away from the creek
    to be monitoring that.
    That does sound like an interesting corner... :)
    I had looked on Google Maps and nothing identified. Have been told
    that area used to be road for a gentle curve from the E-W Kimberly Rd.
    to the N-S one; was modified when the interchange with I-74 was constructed (I think early 70''s -- before I moved out here). Doesn't explain the 'secret bunker' thing.

    That's the sort of thing that the local history library might have the information on... :)

    Ah, OK. Regional terminologies. We do have similar sites locally;
    OTTOMH not sure about the kitchen but there is essentially a house on
    the nearby golf course and park one can rent for receptions, etc.
    These will have an extensive kitchen, with a large room for the main
    event, and often a smaller room for a bar (sometimes just part of the
    main room), along with restrooms... And there is a staff that runs
    the establishment and the kitchen, so when you rent the space, you
    get full service with it... :)
    Probably the same here. The few I've been to had the event room,
    can't recall the bar option, kitchen area, rest rooms. Don't recall
    the staffing arrangements. Of two I'm recalling better both had an
    'overseeing' staff member or two present: familiar with the site and
    helped the brought-in staff find things.
    So possibly between what we call a party-house and the more self-serve
    lodges in the parks here... Another way to describe the party house
    here is that it's a restaurant that is only open to private parties,
    not to the general public... :)
    Right. The ones I can think of out here generally use the word
    'lodge' and state available for rental -- almost like there isn't a descriptor, one just knows: "Duck Creek Lodge", "Credit Island
    Lodge"... OTOH when one says "The Lodge" they mean the former
    restaurant and hotel.

    Hard to be sure, but what you describe doesn't seem to quite be the same
    as our party houses... but at least similar....

    Davenport has the Credit Island Lodge - yes, that got flooded but had
    been rebuilt a few years back due to a fire and the first floor level
    is more or less minimal so when it does flood not too much to move out
    (to upstairs) and repair. (The island was a site for fur, etc.,
    trading back in the Indian Days and hence the name.)
    Ah, the name does makes sense with that history... :) We also have
    lodges (generally one-story) that are available to rent in the various
    local parks... those come with kitchen and restrooms, but one has to
    bring in one's own food and can cook it there themselves...
    Right: quite a few of those options around here too.
    That tends to be rather a common option... :)
    Was looking up Duck Creek Lodge and for their gazebo area (separate
    from the house) has a seating capacity of 40 with no additional chairs allowed; the house portion has a capacity of 110 but I didn't see
    mention of who provides the seating, tables, etc. (Probably noted in
    the reservations section.)

    If they do, then it's closer to what we call a party house... especially
    if they also provide the food and the service.... :)

    ..And then there are two shelters in the
    park which can be served, and yes, there are rest rooms nearby,

    Good thing... ;)

    There is a current concern which I hadn't hadn't heard of until
    lately. Some of the area rivers including the Mississippi are still at
    flood stage and that is causing a potential problem for the roadways
    nearby. The road bed is rock, gravel, etc., to allow good drainage, but
    that also allows the water from the river, stream. etc., to flow in to
    the road bed. Water expands when it freezes, so if there is water in
    the drainage bed could expand and damage the road this winter.
    Yet another factor.... ;( That sounds like a problem that should
    have been thought of before.... but I suppose having the rivers
    stay at flood stage hasn't been that big a factor up till now....?
    The staying at flood stage for so long is extremely rare - closer to
    never. Normally the rivers, etc., do a normal yearly drop of their
    water level, which drains the water table to where it belongs and the
    road beds are emptied. Just lots of rain, enough to keep the water
    levels up near/slightly over flooding and not drop back to normal
    river levels.
    Let's hope that it isn't a new normal... and that things will be
    back to the more expected next year...!
    They're already issuing flood predictions for next year; I haven't
    taken the time to read them yet.

    That sounds scary... unless they are predicting much less next year than
    this year....

    Maybe it IS time to move everything further uphill.... ;0
    That would be quite a job! Have heard where it's been done, just not
    on such a grand scale as would be needed locally. Recall where a small
    town in the South (Louisiana?) moved a relatively short distance --
    mile or two? -- just enough to be sufficiently elevated so as to not be
    flooded.
    It would be quite a job, and I was mostly being a little facetious...
    Even a small town would find it quite the job, I'm sure....
    Right. I have seen houses moved -- slowly creeping down the street in
    two or three portions. (Originally had 'pieces' - seemed not quite appriopriate!) Probably impossible to move most of the business
    buildings as just too large. Building replacements would be a
    nightmare: currently the buildings fit together and the business owner makes do with what they have. If moving most would be doing the "it
    would be nice to have extra room" or sometimes a little less room, so
    the current jigsaw fit is lost.

    Yup, does sound like a nightmare... I've actually seen some whole
    (fairly large) houses moved down the street to a new location, but it's
    a major operation, and probably more than a little risky that everything
    would survive the move without some damage....

    And now, we've not only had a hard freeze, but have stayed cold for
    almost a week now... and got a foot of snow.... which also is still
    around... As some of announcers have been saying, we're getting
    January weather in November! Today the high is only 27ø, but it's
    supposed to be in the 30s again tomorrow and Monday... they were
    talking about the 40s but that keeps moving down the way more...
    We've been roughly ten degrees cooler than normal the past and current week. Next week is suppose to be warmer than it has been but still a little cooler than normal. Right now 35ø and last I heard a 3 mile visibility with the fog. Supposed to rain around noon.

    And the last couple of days here, it's actually been in the high 50s...!
    We actually did get our Indian (late) Spring finally... not quite the
    Indian Summer that would have been nice, but it is the end of November,
    after all... ;) Today is back in the 30s, and tomorrow is supposed to
    be likewise... then maybe back in the 40s for the beginning of next
    week...

    <Looking out> Still snowing; snow plow went by about a half-hour ago.
    And yes, I did switch over to long-sleeved shirts - for some reason I
    do feel warmer!
    Well, yeah... one would think.... :)
    I know and have known a few people who never 'winterize'. One guy I
    know wears short sleeves all year round. OTOH I've also known people
    who wear long sleeves all the time and don't get hot in summer.
    There are indeed all kinds.... :)
    For me it's just too hot to wear long sleeved shirts in the summer and
    too cold to wear short sleeved shirts in the winter. OTOH I did wear
    a suit jacket year round, though a short- or long sleeved shirt
    underneath depending on the season - unless hot-hot tempertures I was
    fine -- guess a little air circulation in the jacket sleeve!

    I'll use a sweater jacket for the fall, most of the winter, and then
    again in the spring... When it's a little warmer, I wear a short sleeved
    shirt under my dresses... and when cooler, switch to long-sleeved... And
    when colder yet, actually zip up the sweater... ;) Only when the temps
    get below zero F do I switch to the winter jacket... usually that one's
    too warm for me... :) In the summer, I tend to switch to the shorter
    length sleeveless sundresses...

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Fri Nov 29 08:43:00 2019

    Hi Nancy!

    Just got a refill on on my coffee and heard this announcment on the
    radio: "Thanks for listening to KIIK ["kick"] one-oh-four-nine at work
    -- that means you haven't ben fired yet." Obviously tongue-in-cheek.


    Actually for that specific area might be more fun to research what's
    there currently. Corner is essentially a tiny park, though would seem
    like a good place for a gas station, convenience store (there is one
    across the street). (We don't need another gas station/convenience
    store, and overall I prefer seeing the grass and trees there -- cue
    Joni Mitchell and "they paved paradise".) Next "lot" over is what I'm
    slightly curious about: largish flattened mound with a short yagi-style
    sticking out of it. Maybe three feet off the ground; looks like a
    regular TV antenna. Not-so-secret bunker?! Too far away from the creek
    to be monitoring that.
    That does sound like an interesting corner... :)
    I had looked on Google Maps and nothing identified. Have been told
    that area used to be road for a gentle curve from the E-W Kimberly Rd.
    to the N-S one; was modified when the interchange with I-74 was constructed (I think early 70''s -- before I moved out here). Doesn't explain the 'secret bunker' thing.
    That's the sort of thing that the local history library might
    have the information on... :)

    Are you trying to get me off my computer chair?! It'll probably end up
    being something boring like a part of the sewer system. OTOH.... :)


    Ah, OK. Regional terminologies. We do have similar sites locally;
    OTTOMH not sure about the kitchen but there is essentially a house on
    the nearby golf course and park one can rent for receptions, etc.
    These will have an extensive kitchen, with a large room for the main
    event, and often a smaller room for a bar (sometimes just part of the
    main room), along with restrooms... And there is a staff that runs
    the establishment and the kitchen, so when you rent the space, you
    get full service with it... :)
    Probably the same here. The few I've been to had the event room,
    can't recall the bar option, kitchen area, rest rooms. Don't recall
    the staffing arrangements. Of two I'm recalling better both had an
    'overseeing' staff member or two present: familiar with the site and
    helped the brought-in staff find things.
    So possibly between what we call a party-house and the more self-serve
    lodges in the parks here... Another way to describe the party house
    here is that it's a restaurant that is only open to private parties,
    not to the general public... :)
    Right. The ones I can think of out here generally use the word
    'lodge' and state available for rental -- almost like there isn't a descriptor, one just knows: "Duck Creek Lodge", "Credit Island
    Lodge"... OTOH when one says "The Lodge" they mean the former
    restaurant and hotel.
    Hard to be sure, but what you describe doesn't seem to quite be
    the same as our party houses... but at least similar....

    I'm thinking it's similar to what your 'party house' is but not the
    same.


    Davenport has the Credit Island Lodge - yes, that got flooded but had
    been rebuilt a few years back due to a fire and the first floor level
    is more or less minimal so when it does flood not too much to move out
    (to upstairs) and repair. (The island was a site for fur, etc.,
    trading back in the Indian Days and hence the name.)
    Ah, the name does makes sense with that history... :) We also have
    lodges (generally one-story) that are available to rent in the various
    local parks... those come with kitchen and restrooms, but one has to
    bring in one's own food and can cook it there themselves...
    Right: quite a few of those options around here too.
    That tends to be rather a common option... :)
    Was looking up Duck Creek Lodge and for their gazebo area (separate
    from the house) has a seating capacity of 40 with no additional chairs allowed; the house portion has a capacity of 110 but I didn't see
    mention of who provides the seating, tables, etc. (Probably noted in
    the reservations section.)
    If they do, then it's closer to what we call a party house...
    especially if they also provide the food and the service.... :)

    I don't think they provide the food, or at least the two events for
    which I've attended a function there was catered. Another thing for The
    List!


    ..And then there are two shelters in the
    park which can be served, and yes, there are rest rooms nearby,
    Good thing... ;)

    Iowa DNR tends to frown on the alternative!


    There is a current concern which I hadn't hadn't heard of until
    lately. Some of the area rivers including the Mississippi are still at
    flood stage and that is causing a potential problem for the roadways
    nearby. The road bed is rock, gravel, etc., to allow good drainage, but
    that also allows the water from the river, stream. etc., to flow in to
    the road bed. Water expands when it freezes, so if there is water in
    the drainage bed could expand and damage the road this winter.
    Yet another factor.... ;( That sounds like a problem that should
    have been thought of before.... but I suppose having the rivers
    stay at flood stage hasn't been that big a factor up till now....?
    The staying at flood stage for so long is extremely rare - closer to
    never. Normally the rivers, etc., do a normal yearly drop of their
    water level, which drains the water table to where it belongs and the
    road beds are emptied. Just lots of rain, enough to keep the water
    levels up near/slightly over flooding and not drop back to normal
    river levels.
    Let's hope that it isn't a new normal... and that things will be
    back to the more expected next year...!
    They're already issuing flood predictions for next year; I haven't
    taken the time to read them yet.
    That sounds scary... unless they are predicting much less next
    year than this year....

    I don't recall a predicted depth other than less than this year's but
    still going to be flooding.


    Maybe it IS time to move everything further uphill.... ;0
    That would be quite a job! Have heard where it's been done, just not
    on such a grand scale as would be needed locally. Recall where a small
    town in the South (Louisiana?) moved a relatively short distance --
    mile or two? -- just enough to be sufficiently elevated so as to not be
    flooded.
    It would be quite a job, and I was mostly being a little facetious...
    Even a small town would find it quite the job, I'm sure....
    Right. I have seen houses moved -- slowly creeping down the street in
    two or three portions. (Originally had 'pieces' - seemed not quite appriopriate!) Probably impossible to move most of the business
    buildings as just too large. Building replacements would be a
    nightmare: currently the buildings fit together and the business owner makes do with what they have. If moving most would be doing the "it
    would be nice to have extra room" or sometimes a little less room, so
    the current jigsaw fit is lost.
    Yup, does sound like a nightmare... I've actually seen some whole
    (fairly large) houses moved down the street to a new location,
    but it's a major operation, and probably more than a little risky
    that everything would survive the move without some damage....

    Yes, would seem the jacking up on to the trailers would be the most heart-stopping portion, followed closely by the setting down on to the
    new location. The actual moving to the new location probably isn't too
    bad a the house is on the trailer.


    And now, we've not only had a hard freeze, but have stayed cold for
    almost a week now... and got a foot of snow.... which also is still
    around... As some of announcers have been saying, we're getting
    January weather in November! Today the high is only 27ø, but it's
    supposed to be in the 30s again tomorrow and Monday... they were
    talking about the 40s but that keeps moving down the way more...
    We've been roughly ten degrees cooler than normal the past and current week. Next week is suppose to be warmer than it has been but still a little cooler than normal. Right now 35ø and last I heard a 3 mile visibility with the fog. Supposed to rain around noon.
    And the last couple of days here, it's actually been in the high
    50s...! We actually did get our Indian (late) Spring finally...
    not quite the Indian Summer that would have been nice, but it is
    the end of November, after all... ;) Today is back in the 30s,
    and tomorrow is supposed to be likewise... then maybe back in the
    40s for the beginning of next week...

    33ø this morning with the high only in the upper 30's. The Wednesday
    before Thanksgiving (so two days ago as I write this) did get the 50-60
    MPH wind gusts but the predicted for later 70-75 MPH didn't occur, or at
    least locally. One power glitch at almost exactly noon did get the UPSs excited but other than that just a couple of quick flips.



    I'll use a sweater jacket for the fall, most of the winter, and
    then again in the spring... When it's a little warmer, I wear a
    short sleeved shirt under my dresses... and when cooler, switch
    to long-sleeved... And when colder yet, actually zip up the
    sweater... ;) Only when the temps get below zero F do I switch
    to the winter jacket... usually that one's too warm for me... :)
    In the summer, I tend to switch to the shorter length sleeveless sundresses...

    We always knew you were hot stuff!! <gg>


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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Tue Dec 3 21:32:20 2019
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 29-Nov-2019 08:43 <=-

    Just got a refill on on my coffee and heard this announcment on the
    radio: "Thanks for listening to KIIK ["kick"] one-oh-four-nine at work
    -- that means you haven't been fired yet." Obviously tongue-in-cheek.

    Cute... And the second-thought kicking in... but, I'm listening at
    home...... <G>

    Actually for that specific area might be more fun to research what's
    there currently. Corner is essentially a tiny park, though would seem
    like a good place for a gas station, convenience store (there is one
    across the street). (We don't need another gas station/convenience
    store, and overall I prefer seeing the grass and trees there -- cue
    Joni Mitchell and "they paved paradise".) Next "lot" over is what I'm
    slightly curious about: largish flattened mound with a short yagi-style
    sticking out of it. Maybe three feet off the ground; looks like a
    regular TV antenna. Not-so-secret bunker?! Too far away from the creek
    to be monitoring that.
    That does sound like an interesting corner... :)
    I had looked on Google Maps and nothing identified. Have been told
    that area used to be road for a gentle curve from the E-W Kimberly Rd.
    to the N-S one; was modified when the interchange with I-74 was
    constructed (I think early 70''s -- before I moved out here). Doesn't
    explain the 'secret bunker' thing.
    That's the sort of thing that the local history library might have
    the information on... :)
    Are you trying to get me off my computer chair?! It'll probably end
    up being something boring like a part of the sewer system. OTOH.... :)

    You'll not know unless you check it out.... :) Schedule a trip to the
    library with your errands some day when there's a little more time
    available... :)

    Right. The ones I can think of out here generally use the word
    'lodge' and state available for rental -- almost like there isn't a
    descriptor, one just knows: "Duck Creek Lodge", "Credit Island
    Lodge"... OTOH when one says "The Lodge" they mean the former
    restaurant and hotel.
    Hard to be sure, but what you describe doesn't seem to quite be
    the same as our party houses... but at least similar....
    I'm thinking it's similar to what your 'party house' is but not the
    same.

    Right... as I said below, our party houses provide the food as well as
    the staffed service...

    Was looking up Duck Creek Lodge and for their gazebo area (separate
    from the house) has a seating capacity of 40 with no additional chairs
    allowed; the house portion has a capacity of 110 but I didn't see
    mention of who provides the seating, tables, etc. (Probably noted in
    the reservations section.)
    If they do, then it's closer to what we call a party house...
    especially if they also provide the food and the service.... :)
    I don't think they provide the food, or at least the two events for
    which I've attended a function there was catered. Another thing for
    The List!

    Yup... :) I'm also curious now as to whether or not you actually do
    have anything that really is equivalent to our party houses.... Some of
    the ones here only do the big parties, but there are some that bill
    themselves as a party house and restaurant.... and would also serve
    meals there to individual smaller groups like families or couples or
    such, and have a party room or two off to the side.... :)

    ..And then there are two shelters in the
    park which can be served, and yes, there are rest rooms nearby,
    Good thing... ;)
    Iowa DNR tends to frown on the alternative!

    Yup. :)

    The staying at flood stage for so long is extremely rare - closer to
    never. Normally the rivers, etc., do a normal yearly drop of their
    water level, which drains the water table to where it belongs and the
    road beds are emptied. Just lots of rain, enough to keep the water
    levels up near/slightly over flooding and not drop back to normal
    river levels.
    Let's hope that it isn't a new normal... and that things will be
    back to the more expected next year...!
    They're already issuing flood predictions for next year; I haven't
    taken the time to read them yet.
    That sounds scary... unless they are predicting much less next year
    than this year....
    I don't recall a predicted depth other than less than this year's but still going to be flooding.

    Less than is at least a hopeful start.... ;) But they'd better get
    their coping with flooding plans well into place in the meantime... :)

    Right. I have seen houses moved -- slowly creeping down the street in
    two or three portions. (Originally had 'pieces' - seemed not quite
    appriopriate!) Probably impossible to move most of the business
    buildings as just too large. Building replacements would be a
    nightmare: currently the buildings fit together and the business owner
    makes do with what they have. If moving most would be doing the "it
    would be nice to have extra room" or sometimes a little less room, so
    the current jigsaw fit is lost.
    Yup, does sound like a nightmare... I've actually seen some whole
    (fairly large) houses moved down the street to a new location, but
    it's a major operation, and probably more than a little risky that
    everything would survive the move without some damage....
    Yes, would seem the jacking up on to the trailers would be the most heart-stopping portion, followed closely by the setting down on to the
    new location. The actual moving to the new location probably isn't
    too bad as the house is on the trailer.

    The jostling could also cause problems.... I've only seen them going
    (very slowly) down the road, haven't been around for the lifting or the
    setting down parts.... ;)

    We've been roughly ten degrees cooler than normal the past and current
    week. Next week is suppose to be warmer than it has been but still a
    little cooler than normal. Right now 35ø and last I heard a 3 mile
    visibility with the fog. Supposed to rain around noon.
    And the last couple of days here, it's actually been in the high
    50s...! We actually did get our Indian (late) Spring finally... not
    quite the Indian Summer that would have been nice, but it is the end
    of November, after all... ;) Today is back in the 30s, and tomorrow
    is supposed to be likewise... then maybe back in the 40s for the
    beginning of next week...
    33ø this morning with the high only in the upper 30's. The Wednesday before Thanksgiving (so two days ago as I write this) did get the
    50-60 MPH wind gusts but the predicted for later 70-75 MPH didn't
    occur, or at least locally. One power glitch at almost exactly noon
    did get the UPSs excited but other than that just a couple of quick
    flips.

    Not too bad, then.... We had similar, maybe 55mph, gusts but not too
    much of them... There'd been rumors of higher, but they were elsewhere
    in the region if they occurred.... No power glitches at all...

    I'll use a sweater jacket for the fall, most of the winter, and
    then again in the spring... When it's a little warmer, I wear a
    short sleeved shirt under my dresses... and when cooler, switch
    to long-sleeved... And when colder yet, actually zip up the
    sweater... ;) Only when the temps get below zero F do I switch
    to the winter jacket... usually that one's too warm for me... :)
    In the summer, I tend to switch to the shorter length sleeveless
    sundresses...
    We always knew you were hot stuff!! <gg>

    Thanks, I think.... <G>

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Wed Dec 4 09:02:00 2019

    Hi Nancy!

    Just got a refill on on my coffee and heard this announcment on the
    radio: "Thanks for listening to KIIK ["kick"] one-oh-four-nine at work
    -- that means you haven't been fired yet." Obviously tongue-in-cheek.
    Cute... And the second-thought kicking in... but, I'm listening
    at home...... <G>

    Heck, I'm retired! Hope I can't be fired from retirement!!


    Actually for that specific area might be more fun to research what's
    there currently. Corner is essentially a tiny park, though would seem
    like a good place for a gas station, convenience store (there is one
    across the street). (We don't need another gas station/convenience
    store, and overall I prefer seeing the grass and trees there -- cue
    Joni Mitchell and "they paved paradise".) Next "lot" over is what I'm
    slightly curious about: largish flattened mound with a short yagi-style
    sticking out of it. Maybe three feet off the ground; looks like a
    regular TV antenna. Not-so-secret bunker?! Too far away from the creek
    to be monitoring that.
    That does sound like an interesting corner... :)
    I had looked on Google Maps and nothing identified. Have been told
    that area used to be road for a gentle curve from the E-W Kimberly Rd.
    to the N-S one; was modified when the interchange with I-74 was
    constructed (I think early 70''s -- before I moved out here). Doesn't
    explain the 'secret bunker' thing.
    That's the sort of thing that the local history library might have
    the information on... :)
    Are you trying to get me off my computer chair?! It'll probably end
    up being something boring like a part of the sewer system. OTOH.... :)
    You'll not know unless you check it out.... :) Schedule a trip
    to the library with your errands some day when there's a little
    more time available... :)

    Let's see: is that the schedule on calendar hanging or the electronic
    one....? I think about that over a nap! <g> Actually might be a useful project for later when Autumn needs to go to the Library and I need
    something to occupy my time.


    <Party Houses>
    Was looking up Duck Creek Lodge and for their gazebo area (separate
    from the house) has a seating capacity of 40 with no additional chairs
    allowed; the house portion has a capacity of 110 but I didn't see
    mention of who provides the seating, tables, etc. (Probably noted in
    the reservations section.)
    If they do, then it's closer to what we call a party house...
    especially if they also provide the food and the service.... :)
    I don't think they provide the food, or at least the two events for
    which I've attended a function there was catered. Another thing for
    The List!
    Yup... :) I'm also curious now as to whether or not you actually
    do have anything that really is equivalent to our party
    houses.... Some of the ones here only do the big parties, but
    there are some that bill themselves as a party house and
    restaurant.... and would also serve meals there to individual
    smaller groups like families or couples or such, and have a party
    room or two off to the side.... :)

    I'm thinking what you have in New York as a Party House doesn't exist as
    such out here. Closest equivalent would be renting something the lodges
    at Duck Creek or Credit Island Parks, but as a pot luck or catered.
    There are of course banquet rooms, AFAIK generally part of a hotel, but
    that's different from your Party House.



    The staying at flood stage for so long is extremely rare - closer to
    never. Normally the rivers, etc., do a normal yearly drop of their
    water level, which drains the water table to where it belongs and the
    road beds are emptied. Just lots of rain, enough to keep the water
    levels up near/slightly over flooding and not drop back to normal
    river levels.
    Let's hope that it isn't a new normal... and that things will be
    back to the more expected next year...!
    They're already issuing flood predictions for next year; I haven't
    taken the time to read them yet.
    That sounds scary... unless they are predicting much less next year
    than this year....
    I don't recall a predicted depth other than less than this year's but still going to be flooding.
    Less than is at least a hopeful start.... ;) But they'd better
    get their coping with flooding plans well into place in the
    meantime... :)

    Definitely!! Just because it happened last year and probably not next
    year doesn't mean it won't happen again. Some time back (early 2000's?)
    there were two "100 Year Floods" back to back. People were complaining
    how they could be called a 100 Year Flood when occurred in much less
    that 100 years. They were taking the name literally; really meant on
    average only flooded like that once a century. So yes, even though the flooding is done with for now it wil come back and they need to be
    prepared.


    Right. I have seen houses moved -- slowly creeping down the street in
    two or three portions. (Originally had 'pieces' - seemed not quite
    appriopriate!) Probably impossible to move most of the business
    buildings as just too large. Building replacements would be a
    nightmare: currently the buildings fit together and the business owner
    makes do with what they have. If moving most would be doing the "it
    would be nice to have extra room" or sometimes a little less room, so
    the current jigsaw fit is lost.
    Yup, does sound like a nightmare... I've actually seen some whole
    (fairly large) houses moved down the street to a new location, but
    it's a major operation, and probably more than a little risky that
    everything would survive the move without some damage....
    Yes, would seem the jacking up on to the trailers would be the most heart-stopping portion, followed closely by the setting down on to the
    new location. The actual moving to the new location probably isn't
    too bad as the house is on the trailer.
    The jostling could also cause problems.... I've only seen them
    going (very slowly) down the road, haven't been around for the
    lifting or the setting down parts.... ;)

    I've see the moving down the road part and the preparation part: house
    ready to be dropped (bad word choice!) to the new basement but never the
    actual transfer: neighbour's house diagonally across the street from
    where I grew up was moved, I think from where a shopping center was
    created. Missed the move as had to go to school; no such thing or never thought of home video recording.



    33ø this morning with the high only in the upper 30's. The Wednesday before Thanksgiving (so two days ago as I write this) did get the
    50-60 MPH wind gusts but the predicted for later 70-75 MPH didn't
    occur, or at least locally. One power glitch at almost exactly noon
    did get the UPSs excited but other than that just a couple of quick
    flips.
    Not too bad, then.... We had similar, maybe 55mph, gusts but not
    too much of them... There'd been rumors of higher, but they were elsewhere in the region if they occurred.... No power glitches at
    all...

    Good!


    I'll use a sweater jacket for the fall, most of the winter, and
    then again in the spring... When it's a little warmer, I wear a
    short sleeved shirt under my dresses... and when cooler, switch
    to long-sleeved... And when colder yet, actually zip up the
    sweater... ;) Only when the temps get below zero F do I switch
    to the winter jacket... usually that one's too warm for me... :)
    In the summer, I tend to switch to the shorter length sleeveless
    sundresses...
    We always knew you were hot stuff!! <gg>
    Thanks, I think.... <G>

    <chuckle>


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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Tue Dec 10 20:04:06 2019
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 04-Dec-2019 09:02 <=-

    Just got a refill on on my coffee and heard this announcment on the
    radio: "Thanks for listening to KIIK ["kick"] one-oh-four-nine at work
    -- that means you haven't been fired yet." Obviously tongue-in-cheek.
    Cute... And the second-thought kicking in... but, I'm listening
    at home...... <G>
    Heck, I'm retired! Hope I can't be fired from retirement!!

    Nope.... and that's one less thing to worry about... :)

    Next "lot" over is what I'm slightly curious about: largish flattened
    mound with a short yagi-style sticking out of it. Maybe three feet
    off the ground; looks like a regular TV antenna. Not-so-secret
    bunker?! Too far away from the creek to be monitoring that.
    That does sound like an interesting corner... :)
    I had looked on Google Maps and nothing identified. Have been told
    that area used to be road for a gentle curve from the E-W Kimberly Rd.
    to the N-S one; was modified when the interchange with I-74 was
    constructed (I think early 70''s -- before I moved out here). Doesn't
    explain the 'secret bunker' thing.
    That's the sort of thing that the local history library might have
    the information on... :)
    Are you trying to get me off my computer chair?! It'll probably end
    up being something boring like a part of the sewer system. OTOH.... :)
    You'll not know unless you check it out.... :) Schedule a trip to
    the library with your errands some day when there's a little more
    time available... :)
    Let's see: is that the schedule on calendar hanging or the electronic one....? I think about that over a nap! <g> Actually might be a
    useful project for later when Autumn needs to go to the Library and I
    need something to occupy my time.

    Now there's an idea.... probably even a good one... :)

    <Party Houses>
    Yup... :) I'm also curious now as to whether or not you actually do
    have anything that really is equivalent to our party houses.... Some
    of the ones here only do the big parties, but there are some that
    bill themselves as a party house and restaurant.... and would also
    serve meals there to individual smaller groups like families or
    couples or such, and have a party room or two off to the side.... :)
    I'm thinking what you have in New York as a Party House doesn't exist
    as such out here. Closest equivalent would be renting something the lodges at Duck Creek or Credit Island Parks, but as a pot luck or
    catered. There are of course banquet rooms, AFAIK generally part of a hotel, but that's different from your Party House.

    The banquet rooms are getting closer to what we have.... If you had
    something like that not part of a hotel (or a convention center), but
    with its own kitchen and staff, that's pretty much what I'm talking
    about... You might have something of the sort, but never run across it
    yet.... or maybe there's less need for that where you are... :)

    The staying at flood stage for so long is extremely rare - closer to
    never. Normally the rivers, etc., do a normal yearly drop of their
    water level, which drains the water table to where it belongs and the
    road beds are emptied. Just lots of rain, enough to keep the water
    levels up near/slightly over flooding and not drop back to normal
    river levels.
    Let's hope that it isn't a new normal... and that things will be
    back to the more expected next year...!
    They're already issuing flood predictions for next year; I haven't
    taken the time to read them yet.
    That sounds scary... unless they are predicting much less next year
    than this year....
    I don't recall a predicted depth other than less than this year's but
    still going to be flooding.
    Less than is at least a hopeful start.... ;) But they'd better get
    their coping with flooding plans well into place in the meantime... :)
    Definitely!! Just because it happened last year and probably not next year doesn't mean it won't happen again. Some time back (early
    2000's?) there were two "100 Year Floods" back to back. People were complaining how they could be called a 100 Year Flood when occurred in much less than 100 years. They were taking the name literally; really meant on average only flooded like that once a century. So yes, even though the flooding is done with for now it will come back and they need to be prepared.

    Yup. Besides, a lot of things aren't really totally predictable, much
    as we could wish they were.... :)

    Yup, does sound like a nightmare... I've actually seen some whole
    (fairly large) houses moved down the street to a new location, but
    it's a major operation, and probably more than a little risky that
    everything would survive the move without some damage....
    Yes, would seem the jacking up on to the trailers would be the most
    heart-stopping portion, followed closely by the setting down on to the
    new location. The actual moving to the new location probably isn't
    too bad as the house is on the trailer.
    The jostling could also cause problems.... I've only seen them going
    (very slowly) down the road, haven't been around for the lifting or
    the setting down parts.... ;)
    I've see the moving down the road part and the preparation part: house ready to be dropped (bad word choice!) to the new basement but never
    the actual transfer: neighbour's house diagonally across the street
    from where I grew up was moved, I think from where a shopping center
    was created. Missed the move as had to go to school; no such thing or never thought of home video recording.

    Probably at least the latter... although also possible that it was
    before home videos were common at least, or even available yet....

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Wed Dec 11 10:03:00 2019

    Hi Nancy!

    Just got a refill on on my coffee and heard this announcment on the
    radio: "Thanks for listening to KIIK ["kick"] one-oh-four-nine at work
    -- that means you haven't been fired yet." Obviously tongue-in-cheek.
    Cute... And the second-thought kicking in... but, I'm listening
    at home...... <G>
    Heck, I'm retired! Hope I can't be fired from retirement!!
    Nope.... and that's one less thing to worry about... :)

    Wasn't all that concerned when I was working, though sometimes the corporate-speak did seem to go overboard for generally minor
    infractions: punishment for being late had "up to an including
    termination" tacked to it.


    Next "lot" over is what I'm slightly curious about: largish flattened
    mound with a short yagi-style sticking out of it. Maybe three feet
    off the ground; looks like a regular TV antenna. Not-so-secret
    bunker?! Too far away from the creek to be monitoring that.
    That does sound like an interesting corner... :)
    I had looked on Google Maps and nothing identified. Have been told
    that area used to be road for a gentle curve from the E-W Kimberly Rd.
    to the N-S one; was modified when the interchange with I-74 was
    constructed (I think early 70''s -- before I moved out here). Doesn't
    explain the 'secret bunker' thing.
    That's the sort of thing that the local history library might have
    the information on... :)
    Are you trying to get me off my computer chair?! It'll probably end
    up being something boring like a part of the sewer system. OTOH.... :)
    You'll not know unless you check it out.... :) Schedule a trip to
    the library with your errands some day when there's a little more
    time available... :)
    Let's see: is that the schedule on calendar hanging or the electronic one....? I think about that over a nap! <g> Actually might be a
    useful project for later when Autumn needs to go to the Library and I
    need something to occupy my time.
    Now there's an idea.... probably even a good one... :)

    Now just to have her learn to read: she can recognize her name -- had to
    not write out her name on the box with her Christmas presents in it!


    <Party Houses>
    Yup... :) I'm also curious now as to whether or not you actually do
    have anything that really is equivalent to our party houses.... Some
    of the ones here only do the big parties, but there are some that
    bill themselves as a party house and restaurant.... and would also
    serve meals there to individual smaller groups like families or
    couples or such, and have a party room or two off to the side.... :)
    I'm thinking what you have in New York as a Party House doesn't exist
    as such out here. Closest equivalent would be renting something the lodges at Duck Creek or Credit Island Parks, but as a pot luck or
    catered. There are of course banquet rooms, AFAIK generally part of a hotel, but that's different from your Party House.
    The banquet rooms are getting closer to what we have.... If you
    had something like that not part of a hotel (or a convention
    center), but with its own kitchen and staff, that's pretty much
    what I'm talking about... You might have something of the sort,
    but never run across it yet.... or maybe there's less need for
    that where you are... :)

    Or I'm just less of a partyer! <g> I'm pretty sure we have something
    close to your "party house" out here.



    The staying at flood stage for so long is extremely rare - closer to
    never. Normally the rivers, etc., do a normal yearly drop of their
    water level, which drains the water table to where it belongs and the
    road beds are emptied. Just lots of rain, enough to keep the water
    levels up near/slightly over flooding and not drop back to normal
    river levels.
    Let's hope that it isn't a new normal... and that things will be
    back to the more expected next year...!
    They're already issuing flood predictions for next year; I haven't
    taken the time to read them yet.
    That sounds scary... unless they are predicting much less next year
    than this year....
    I don't recall a predicted depth other than less than this year's but
    still going to be flooding.
    Less than is at least a hopeful start.... ;) But they'd better get
    their coping with flooding plans well into place in the meantime... :)
    Definitely!! Just because it happened last year and probably not next year doesn't mean it won't happen again. Some time back (early
    2000's?) there were two "100 Year Floods" back to back. People were complaining how they could be called a 100 Year Flood when occurred in much less than 100 years. They were taking the name literally; really meant on average only flooded like that once a century. So yes, even though the flooding is done with for now it will come back and they need to be prepared.
    Yup. Besides, a lot of things aren't really totally predictable,
    much as we could wish they were.... :)

    Right: Mother Nature likes to give us those surprises every so often.


    Yup, does sound like a nightmare... I've actually seen some whole
    (fairly large) houses moved down the street to a new location, but
    it's a major operation, and probably more than a little risky that
    everything would survive the move without some damage....
    Yes, would seem the jacking up on to the trailers would be the most
    heart-stopping portion, followed closely by the setting down on to the
    new location. The actual moving to the new location probably isn't
    too bad as the house is on the trailer.
    The jostling could also cause problems.... I've only seen them going
    (very slowly) down the road, haven't been around for the lifting or
    the setting down parts.... ;)
    I've see the moving down the road part and the preparation part: house ready to be dropped (bad word choice!) to the new basement but never
    the actual transfer: neighbour's house diagonally across the street
    from where I grew up was moved, I think from where a shopping center
    was created. Missed the move as had to go to school; no such thing or never thought of home video recording.
    Probably at least the latter... although also possible that it
    was before home videos were common at least, or even available
    yet....

    About a little over a decade before: "Sony released the first consumer camcorder in 1983", Betamax format. The house I'm thinking of was moved
    in probably the early 70's.

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Sat Dec 21 09:39:00 2019

    Hi Nancy!

    Just got a refill on on my coffee and heard this announcment on the
    radio: "Thanks for listening to KIIK ["kick"] one-oh-four-nine at work
    -- that means you haven't been fired yet." Obviously tongue-in-cheek.
    Cute... And the second-thought kicking in... but, I'm listening
    at home...... <G>
    Heck, I'm retired! Hope I can't be fired from retirement!!
    Nope.... and that's one less thing to worry about... :)
    Wasn't all that concerned when I was working, though sometimes the corporate-speak did seem to go overboard for generally minor
    infractions: punishment for being late had "up to an including termination" tacked to it.
    If one isn't likely to be committing such infractions, there's
    not much to be concerned about.... :)

    Agree, no, not likely to happen, just I tend to take it a little
    literally and so as a threat. There's an accident, road blocked, don't
    make to work on time and so fired. There were some people who lived on
    the Illinois side, so always had to use the bridges to get to the store
    on the Iowa side. One of the problems is the current I-74 bridge is
    only two lanes each direction and no breakdown lanes -- even emergency responders have to come from the wrong direction to get to the accident
    site. Next bridge downriver is the Government Bridge which is a
    swingspan: that could be open to allow river traffic through. Next
    bridge is Centennial -- that one doesn't move but still could have
    traffic issues. Next bridges outside the immediate area are miles of
    detour.


    That's the sort of thing that the local history library might have
    the information on... :)
    Are you trying to get me off my computer chair?! It'll probably end
    up being something boring like a part of the sewer system. OTOH.... :)
    You'll not know unless you check it out.... :) Schedule a trip to
    the library with your errands some day when there's a little more
    time available... :)
    Let's see: is that the schedule on calendar hanging or the electronic
    one....? I think about that over a nap! <g> Actually might be a
    useful project for later when Autumn needs to go to the Library and I
    need something to occupy my time.
    Now there's an idea.... probably even a good one... :)
    Now just to have her learn to read: she can recognize her name -- had
    to not write out her name on the box with her Christmas presents in it!
    She's making progress.... :) You could be taking her to library already... there's plenty of picture books in the Children's
    Section that she could spend time with.... ;)

    She still separates her time depending on where she is: Pop-Pop time
    (here) originally had nothing to do with school/learning. Recently a
    few times when she is the teacher (and a slightly mean one!!) teaching
    the stuffed animals their letters, easy words, numbers and some simple
    math. So in the past going to the Library from here wasn't really a
    play option; things are changing so might be some time next year -- play
    by ear.


    <Party Houses>
    Yup... :) I'm also curious now as to whether or not you actually do
    have anything that really is equivalent to our party houses.... Some
    of the ones here only do the big parties, but there are some that
    bill themselves as a party house and restaurant.... and would also
    serve meals there to individual smaller groups like families or
    couples or such, and have a party room or two off to the side.... :)
    I'm thinking what you have in New York as a Party House doesn't exist
    as such out here. Closest equivalent would be renting something the
    lodges at Duck Creek or Credit Island Parks, but as a pot luck or
    catered. There are of course banquet rooms, AFAIK generally part of a
    hotel, but that's different from your Party House.
    The banquet rooms are getting closer to what we have.... If you had
    something like that not part of a hotel (or a convention center), but
    with its own kitchen and staff, that's pretty much what I'm talking
    about... You might have something of the sort, but never run across
    it yet.... or maybe there's less need for that where you are... :)
    Or I'm just less of a partyer! <g> I'm pretty sure we have something close to your "party house" out here.
    I'm not much of a partyer, either... but have managed to notice
    some of the places around here... :)

    Might be advertised for holiday functions.


    I don't recall a predicted depth other than less than this year's but
    still going to be flooding.
    Less than is at least a hopeful start.... ;) But they'd better get
    their coping with flooding plans well into place in the meantime... :)
    Definitely!! Just because it happened last year and probably not next
    year doesn't mean it won't happen again. Some time back (early
    2000's?) there were two "100 Year Floods" back to back. People were
    complaining how they could be called a 100 Year Flood when occurred in
    much less than 100 years. They were taking the name literally; really
    meant on average only flooded like that once a century. So yes, even
    though the flooding is done with for now it will come back and they need
    to be prepared.
    Yup. Besides, a lot of things aren't really totally predictable,
    much as we could wish they were.... :)
    Right: Mother Nature likes to give us those surprises every so often.
    Feast or famine, drought or flood... never know for sure what
    might be coming when... ;)

    Just try to be prepared.


    I've seen the moving down the road part and the preparation part: house
    ready to be dropped (bad word choice!) to the new basement but never
    the actual transfer: neighbour's house diagonally across the street
    from where I grew up was moved, I think from where a shopping center
    was created. Missed the move as had to go to school; no such thing or
    never thought of home video recording.
    Probably at least the latter... although also possible that it was
    before home videos were common at least, or even available yet....
    About a little over a decade before: "Sony released the first consumer camcorder in 1983", Betamax format. The house I'm thinking of was
    moved in probably the early 70's.
    Ah, good guess on my part, then... :)

    You did do guessing about stuff I wasbn't certain about and I was there!



    ... I'm sure everything I can't find is in a safe place
    somewhere.

    <chuckle> I've been half-looking for an older UPS. For some reason
    there has been a concern of if the power goes out for an extended time
    and the need for a battery-powered TV. "Have to get one that runs off batteries!" "Just use one we have with a 12v input and one of the spare
    UPS batteries...."

    So I need to get that little project together. Relatively simple but as
    I have had a cold this past week not all that interested in 'chilling'
    in the cold basement. Sort of 'geekin' it' by thinking of using that
    old UPS to charge the battery and use as a container -- the 120v output
    didn't work which is why I pulled it. Instructions indicates there's a
    fuse on the circuit board but I haven't found. Then I'm thinking may be
    just as easy to use a solar cell I have downstairs as the charging
    source - plug and unplug -- could charge another battery....



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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Tue Dec 31 19:28:02 2019
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 21-Dec-2019 09:39 <=-

    Heck, I'm retired! Hope I can't be fired from retirement!!
    Nope.... and that's one less thing to worry about... :)
    Wasn't all that concerned when I was working, though sometimes the
    corporate-speak did seem to go overboard for generally minor
    infractions: punishment for being late had "up to and including
    termination" tacked to it.
    If one isn't likely to be committing such infractions, there's not
    much to be concerned about.... :)
    Agree, no, not likely to happen, just I tend to take it a little
    literally and so as a threat. There's an accident, road blocked,
    don't make to work on time and so fired.

    I'm sure that would be at the other end of the scale... extenuating circumstances and all that.... I'd guess that the "including
    termination" part would be more for the habitually late, generally
    without much of a valid excuse, type of situation....

    There were some people who lived on the Illinois side, so always had
    to use the bridges to get to the store on the Iowa side. One of the problems is the current I-74 bridge is only two lanes each direction
    and no breakdown lanes -- even emergency responders have to come from
    the wrong direction to get to the accident site. Next bridge
    downriver is the Government Bridge which is a swingspan: that could
    be open to allow river traffic through. Next bridge is Centennial
    -- that one doesn't move but still could have traffic issues. Next bridges outside the immediate area are miles of detour.

    Again, I'd hope that that sort of incident would also have been treated
    as extenuating circumstance.... :)

    Actually might be a useful project for later when Autumn needs to
    go to the Library and I need something to occupy my time.
    Now there's an idea.... probably even a good one... :)
    Now just to have her learn to read: she can recognize her name -- had
    to not write out her name on the box with her Christmas presents in it!
    She's making progress.... :) You could be taking her to library
    already... there's plenty of picture books in the Children's Section
    that she could spend time with.... ;)
    She still separates her time depending on where she is: Pop-Pop time (here) originally had nothing to do with school/learning. Recently a
    few times when she is the teacher (and a slightly mean one!!) teaching
    the stuffed animals their letters, easy words, numbers and some simple math. So in the past going to the Library from here wasn't really a
    play option; things are changing so might be some time next year --
    play by ear.

    As she gets older you can expand her horizons a bit... ;)

    <Party Houses>
    I'm thinking what you have in New York as a Party House doesn't exist
    as such out here. Closest equivalent would be renting something the
    lodges at Duck Creek or Credit Island Parks, but as a pot luck or
    catered. There are of course banquet rooms, AFAIK generally part of a
    hotel, but that's different from your Party House.
    The banquet rooms are getting closer to what we have.... If you had
    something like that not part of a hotel (or a convention center), but
    with its own kitchen and staff, that's pretty much what I'm talking
    about... You might have something of the sort, but never run across
    it yet.... or maybe there's less need for that where you are... :)
    Or I'm just less of a partyer! <g> I'm pretty sure we have something
    close to your "party house" out here.
    I'm not much of a partyer, either... but have managed to notice some
    of the places around here... :)
    Might be advertised for holiday functions.

    That's possible, too... :)

    So yes, even though the flooding is done with for now it will come
    back and they need to be prepared.
    Yup. Besides, a lot of things aren't really totally predictable,
    much as we could wish they were.... :)
    Right: Mother Nature likes to give us those surprises every so often.
    Feast or famine, drought or flood... never know for sure what
    might be coming when... ;)
    Just try to be prepared.

    Yup.

    ... I'm sure everything I can't find is in a safe place somewhere.
    <chuckle> I've been half-looking for an older UPS. For some reason
    there has been a concern of if the power goes out for an extended time
    and the need for a battery-powered TV. "Have to get one that runs off batteries!" "Just use one we have with a 12v input and one of the
    spare UPS batteries...."
    So I need to get that little project together. Relatively simple but
    as I have had a cold this past week not all that interested in
    'chilling' in the cold basement. Sort of 'geekin' it' by thinking of using that old UPS to charge the battery and use as a container -- the 120v output didn't work which is why I pulled it. Instructions
    indicates there's a fuse on the circuit board but I haven't found.
    Then I'm thinking may be just as easy to use a solar cell I have downstairs as the charging source - plug and unplug -- could charge another battery....

    You'll figure out something... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Wed Jan 1 08:51:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    Heck, I'm retired! Hope I can't be fired from retirement!!
    Nope.... and that's one less thing to worry about... :)
    Wasn't all that concerned when I was working, though sometimes the
    corporate-speak did seem to go overboard for generally minor
    infractions: punishment for being late had "up to and including
    termination" tacked to it.
    If one isn't likely to be committing such infractions, there's not
    much to be concerned about.... :)
    Agree, no, not likely to happen, just I tend to take it a little
    literally and so as a threat. There's an accident, road blocked,
    don't make to work on time and so fired.
    I'm sure that would be at the other end of the scale...
    extenuating circumstances and all that.... I'd guess that the
    "including termination" part would be more for the habitually
    late, generally without much of a valid excuse, type of
    situation....

    Though the over-all interpretation was late and <slice across throat
    motion>, even by the Loss Prevention Supervisor who lived on the
    Illinois side and was part of the management meetings. And I remember
    he specifically mentioned it to me and he knew I lived on the Iowa side,
    and it was definitely he was concerned for himself and not a "if I
    mention it to Barry he'll pass it on to others to get the word out".


    There were some people who lived on the Illinois side, so always had
    to use the bridges to get to the store on the Iowa side. One of the problems is the current I-74 bridge is only two lanes each direction
    and no breakdown lanes -- even emergency responders have to come from
    the wrong direction to get to the accident site. Next bridge
    downriver is the Government Bridge which is a swingspan: that could
    be open to allow river traffic through. Next bridge is Centennial
    -- that one doesn't move but still could have traffic issues. Next bridges outside the immediate area are miles of detour.
    Again, I'd hope that that sort of incident would also have been
    treated as extenuating circumstance.... :)

    To me it would make sense. Warn and act on the ones who are habitually
    late.


    Actually might be a useful project for later when Autumn needs to
    go to the Library and I need something to occupy my time.
    Now there's an idea.... probably even a good one... :)
    Now just to have her learn to read: she can recognize her name -- had
    to not write out her name on the box with her Christmas presents in it!
    She's making progress.... :) You could be taking her to library
    already... there's plenty of picture books in the Children's Section
    that she could spend time with.... ;)
    She still separates her time depending on where she is: Pop-Pop time (here) originally had nothing to do with school/learning. Recently a
    few times when she is the teacher (and a slightly mean one!!) teaching
    the stuffed animals their letters, easy words, numbers and some simple math. So in the past going to the Library from here wasn't really a
    play option; things are changing so might be some time next year --
    play by ear.
    As she gets older you can expand her horizons a bit... ;)

    Yes.

    <Deleting where appears to be end of the thread.>


    ... I'm sure everything I can't find is in a safe place somewhere.
    <chuckle> I've been half-looking for an older UPS. For some reason
    there has been a concern of if the power goes out for an extended time
    and the need for a battery-powered TV. "Have to get one that runs off batteries!" "Just use one we have with a 12v input and one of the
    spare UPS batteries...."
    So I need to get that little project together. Relatively simple but
    as I have had a cold this past week not all that interested in
    'chilling' in the cold basement. Sort of 'geekin' it' by thinking of using that old UPS to charge the battery and use as a container -- the 120v output didn't work which is why I pulled it. Instructions
    indicates there's a fuse on the circuit board but I haven't found.
    Then I'm thinking may be just as easy to use a solar cell I have downstairs as the charging source - plug and unplug -- could charge another battery....
    You'll figure out something... :)

    Semi-sort-of did: small "spare" TV is powered by a 12vDC wall wart, so a
    12v battery will also work. Can be a car battery, except not that
    convenient to run a wire or haul the battery inside. I usually have a
    spare battery or two for the UPS here, so they're already inside and
    easy to move around. Ordered and received some extension cables with
    the correct DC connectors. Put those together yesterday, plus a digital voltmeter to monitor the voltage level: drop below a certain voltage
    might damage the TV.

    Only problem wight now is recharging the battery. So that's why in an
    earlier message the looking around for a 'special' battery charger.
    Also have a solar cell I bought ages ago -- it shows someone on the
    beach using it to power a radio -- so will see if this will recharge the battery. Yesterday was overcast and the solar cell was outputting only
    a few volts; Sun's out and looks like will be pretty bright so will see
    how it works.


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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Tue Jan 7 20:07:08 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 01-Jan-2020 08:51 <=-

    Agree, no, not likely to happen, just I tend to take it a little
    literally and so as a threat. There's an accident, road blocked,
    don't make to work on time and so fired.
    I'm sure that would be at the other end of the scale... extenuating
    circumstances and all that.... I'd guess that the "including
    termination" part would be more for the habitually late, generally
    without much of a valid excuse, type of situation....
    Though the over-all interpretation was late and <slice across throat motion>, even by the Loss Prevention Supervisor who lived on the
    Illinois side and was part of the management meetings. And I remember
    he specifically mentioned it to me and he knew I lived on the Iowa
    side, and it was definitely he was concerned for himself and not a "if
    I mention it to Barry he'll pass it on to others to get the word out".

    Then I'm certainly glad I didn't work for them... sounds more like an over-reaction than a nuanced policy....

    There were some people who lived on the Illinois side, so always had
    to use the bridges to get to the store on the Iowa side. One of the
    problems is the current I-74 bridge is only two lanes each direction
    and no breakdown lanes -- even emergency responders have to come from
    the wrong direction to get to the accident site. Next bridge
    downriver is the Government Bridge which is a swingspan: that could
    be open to allow river traffic through. Next bridge is Centennial
    -- that one doesn't move but still could have traffic issues. Next
    bridges outside the immediate area are miles of detour.
    Again, I'd hope that that sort of incident would also have been
    treated as extenuating circumstance.... :)
    To me it would make sense. Warn and act on the ones who are
    habitually late.

    It would certainly seem to be a more intelligent response.... If they
    did follow thru and fire those who were late without any of their own
    fault, I'd think it would open up the company to lawsuits for unjust
    labor practices....

    ... I'm sure everything I can't find is in a safe place somewhere.
    <chuckle> I've been half-looking for an older UPS. For some reason
    there has been a concern of if the power goes out for an extended time
    and the need for a battery-powered TV. "Have to get one that runs off
    batteries!" "Just use one we have with a 12v input and one of the
    spare UPS batteries...."
    So I need to get that little project together. Relatively simple but
    as I have had a cold this past week not all that interested in
    'chilling' in the cold basement. Sort of 'geekin' it' by thinking of
    using that old UPS to charge the battery and use as a container -- the
    120v output didn't work which is why I pulled it. Instructions
    indicates there's a fuse on the circuit board but I haven't found.
    Then I'm thinking may be just as easy to use a solar cell I have
    downstairs as the charging source - plug and unplug -- could charge
    another battery....
    You'll figure out something... :)
    Semi-sort-of did: small "spare" TV is powered by a 12vDC wall wart, so
    a 12v battery will also work. Can be a car battery, except not that convenient to run a wire or haul the battery inside. I usually have a spare battery or two for the UPS here, so they're already inside and
    easy to move around. Ordered and received some extension cables with
    the correct DC connectors. Put those together yesterday, plus a
    digital voltmeter to monitor the voltage level: drop below a certain voltage might damage the TV.
    Only problem right now is recharging the battery. So that's why in an earlier message the looking around for a 'special' battery charger.
    Also have a solar cell I bought ages ago -- it shows someone on the
    beach using it to power a radio -- so will see if this will recharge
    the battery. Yesterday was overcast and the solar cell was outputting only a few volts; Sun's out and looks like will be pretty bright so
    will see how it works.

    Did you get enough sun for that to work...?

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Wed Jan 8 10:06:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    Agree, no, not likely to happen, just I tend to take it a little
    literally and so as a threat. There's an accident, road blocked,
    don't make to work on time and so fired.
    I'm sure that would be at the other end of the scale... extenuating
    circumstances and all that.... I'd guess that the "including
    termination" part would be more for the habitually late, generally
    without much of a valid excuse, type of situation....
    Though the over-all interpretation was late and <slice across throat motion>, even by the Loss Prevention Supervisor who lived on the
    Illinois side and was part of the management meetings. And I remember
    he specifically mentioned it to me and he knew I lived on the Iowa
    side, and it was definitely he was concerned for himself and not a "if
    I mention it to Barry he'll pass it on to others to get the word out".
    Then I'm certainly glad I didn't work for them... sounds more
    like an over-reaction than a nuanced policy....

    Corporate sometimes got a little overboard. It one time the dress code
    was white or black shirts. OK, fine. Black shirt had white buttons -
    nope! Had to be black buttons! What was 'funny' is the black shirts we
    had for sale had white buttons.


    There were some people who lived on the Illinois side, so always had
    to use the bridges to get to the store on the Iowa side. One of the
    problems is the current I-74 bridge is only two lanes each direction
    and no breakdown lanes -- even emergency responders have to come from
    the wrong direction to get to the accident site. Next bridge
    downriver is the Government Bridge which is a swingspan: that could
    be open to allow river traffic through. Next bridge is Centennial
    -- that one doesn't move but still could have traffic issues. Next
    bridges outside the immediate area are miles of detour.
    Again, I'd hope that that sort of incident would also have been
    treated as extenuating circumstance.... :)
    To me it would make sense. Warn and act on the ones who are
    habitually late.
    It would certainly seem to be a more intelligent response.... If
    they did follow thru and fire those who were late without any of
    their own fault, I'd think it would open up the company to
    lawsuits for unjust labor practices....

    That comment was tossed about by some of the more vocal Illinois-side associates.


    ... I'm sure everything I can't find is in a safe place somewhere.
    <chuckle> I've been half-looking for an older UPS. For some reason
    there has been a concern of if the power goes out for an extended time
    and the need for a battery-powered TV. "Have to get one that runs off
    batteries!" "Just use one we have with a 12v input and one of the
    spare UPS batteries...."
    So I need to get that little project together. Relatively simple but
    as I have had a cold this past week not all that interested in
    'chilling' in the cold basement. Sort of 'geekin' it' by thinking of
    using that old UPS to charge the battery and use as a container -- the
    120v output didn't work which is why I pulled it. Instructions
    indicates there's a fuse on the circuit board but I haven't found.
    Then I'm thinking may be just as easy to use a solar cell I have
    downstairs as the charging source - plug and unplug -- could charge
    another battery....
    You'll figure out something... :)
    Semi-sort-of did: small "spare" TV is powered by a 12vDC wall wart, so
    a 12v battery will also work. Can be a car battery, except not that convenient to run a wire or haul the battery inside. I usually have a spare battery or two for the UPS here, so they're already inside and
    easy to move around. Ordered and received some extension cables with
    the correct DC connectors. Put those together yesterday, plus a
    digital voltmeter to monitor the voltage level: drop below a certain voltage might damage the TV.
    Only problem right now is recharging the battery. So that's why in an earlier message the looking around for a 'special' battery charger.
    Also have a solar cell I bought ages ago -- it shows someone on the
    beach using it to power a radio -- so will see if this will recharge
    the battery. Yesterday was overcast and the solar cell was outputting only a few volts; Sun's out and looks like will be pretty bright so
    will see how it works.
    Did you get enough sun for that to work...?

    So far no. There were a couple of sunnier days and appears the problem
    is I need to lower the solar cell's position on the window: the top is shadowed. But First's and Round TuIts popped up.....


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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Tue Jan 14 02:40:38 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 08-Jan-2020 10:06 <=-

    extenuating circumstances and all that.... I'd guess that the
    "including termination" part would be more for the habitually late,
    generally without much of a valid excuse, type of situation....
    Though the over-all interpretation was late and <slice across throat
    motion>, even by the Loss Prevention Supervisor who lived on the
    Illinois side and was part of the management meetings. And I remember
    he specifically mentioned it to me and he knew I lived on the Iowa
    side, and it was definitely he was concerned for himself and not a "if
    I mention it to Barry he'll pass it on to others to get the word out".
    Then I'm certainly glad I didn't work for them... sounds more like
    an over-reaction than a nuanced policy....
    Corporate sometimes got a little overboard. At one time the dress
    code was white or black shirts. OK, fine. Black shirt had white
    buttons - nope! Had to be black buttons! What was 'funny' is the black shirts we had for sale had white buttons.

    Yes, I remember your mentioning that before... and it would have made
    sense to be able to wear the shirts you had for sale.... ;)

    There were some people who lived on the Illinois side, so always had
    to use the bridges to get to the store on the Iowa side. One of the
    problems is the current I-74 bridge is only two lanes each direction
    and no breakdown lanes -- even emergency responders have to come from
    the wrong direction to get to the accident site. Next bridge
    downriver is the Government Bridge which is a swingspan: that could
    be open to allow river traffic through. Next bridge is Centennial
    -- that one doesn't move but still could have traffic issues. Next
    bridges outside the immediate area are miles of detour.
    Again, I'd hope that that sort of incident would also have been
    treated as extenuating circumstance.... :)
    To me it would make sense. Warn and act on the ones who are
    habitually late.
    It would certainly seem to be a more intelligent response.... If they
    did follow thru and fire those who were late without any of their own
    fault, I'd think it would open up the company to lawsuits for unjust
    labor practices....
    That comment was tossed about by some of the more vocal Illinois-side associates.

    Did it ever actually happen, that you know of...?

    You'll figure out something... :)
    Semi-sort-of did: small "spare" TV is powered by a 12vDC wall wart, so
    a 12v battery will also work. Can be a car battery, except not that
    convenient to run a wire or haul the battery inside. I usually have a
    spare battery or two for the UPS here, so they're already inside and
    easy to move around. Ordered and received some extension cables with
    the correct DC connectors. Put those together yesterday, plus a
    digital voltmeter to monitor the voltage level: drop below a certain
    voltage might damage the TV.
    Only problem right now is recharging the battery. So that's why in an
    earlier message the looking around for a 'special' battery charger.
    Also have a solar cell I bought ages ago -- it shows someone on the
    beach using it to power a radio -- so will see if this will recharge
    the battery. Yesterday was overcast and the solar cell was outputting
    only a few volts; Sun's out and looks like will be pretty bright so
    will see how it works.
    Did you get enough sun for that to work...?
    So far no. There were a couple of sunnier days and appears the
    problem is I need to lower the solar cell's position on the window: the top is shadowed. But First's and Round TuIts popped up.....

    Of course... At least you figured out the shadowing part....

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Tue Jan 14 07:50:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    extenuating circumstances and all that.... I'd guess that the
    "including termination" part would be more for the habitually late,
    generally without much of a valid excuse, type of situation....
    Though the over-all interpretation was late and <slice across throat
    motion>, even by the Loss Prevention Supervisor who lived on the
    Illinois side and was part of the management meetings. And I remember
    he specifically mentioned it to me and he knew I lived on the Iowa
    side, and it was definitely he was concerned for himself and not a "if
    I mention it to Barry he'll pass it on to others to get the word out".
    Then I'm certainly glad I didn't work for them... sounds more like
    an over-reaction than a nuanced policy....
    Corporate sometimes got a little overboard. At one time the dress
    code was white or black shirts. OK, fine. Black shirt had white
    buttons - nope! Had to be black buttons! What was 'funny' is the black shirts we had for sale had white buttons.
    Yes, I remember your mentioning that before... and it would have
    made sense to be able to wear the shirts you had for sale.... ;)

    Corprorate did finally allow a tiny bit of colour on the buttons and seams/decoration.


    There were some people who lived on the Illinois side, so always had
    to use the bridges to get to the store on the Iowa side. One of the
    problems is the current I-74 bridge is only two lanes each direction
    and no breakdown lanes -- even emergency responders have to come from
    the wrong direction to get to the accident site. Next bridge
    downriver is the Government Bridge which is a swingspan: that could
    be open to allow river traffic through. Next bridge is Centennial
    -- that one doesn't move but still could have traffic issues. Next
    bridges outside the immediate area are miles of detour.
    Again, I'd hope that that sort of incident would also have been
    treated as extenuating circumstance.... :)
    To me it would make sense. Warn and act on the ones who are
    habitually late.
    It would certainly seem to be a more intelligent response.... If they
    did follow thru and fire those who were late without any of their own
    fault, I'd think it would open up the company to lawsuits for unjust
    labor practices....
    That comment was tossed about by some of the more vocal Illinois-side associates.
    Did it ever actually happen, that you know of...?

    I'm thinking a yes but can't remember to whom. Know for certain a
    friend of mine in Large Appliances was right at the line and as he was a
    really good performer the store management didn't want to see him go for something so stupid so they begged and reminded him not to be late.


    You'll figure out something... :)
    Semi-sort-of did: small "spare" TV is powered by a 12vDC wall wart, so
    a 12v battery will also work. Can be a car battery, except not that
    convenient to run a wire or haul the battery inside. I usually have a
    spare battery or two for the UPS here, so they're already inside and
    easy to move around. Ordered and received some extension cables with
    the correct DC connectors. Put those together yesterday, plus a
    digital voltmeter to monitor the voltage level: drop below a certain
    voltage might damage the TV.
    Only problem right now is recharging the battery. So that's why in an
    earlier message the looking around for a 'special' battery charger.
    Also have a solar cell I bought ages ago -- it shows someone on the
    beach using it to power a radio -- so will see if this will recharge
    the battery. Yesterday was overcast and the solar cell was outputting
    only a few volts; Sun's out and looks like will be pretty bright so
    will see how it works.
    Did you get enough sun for that to work...?
    So far no. There were a couple of sunnier days and appears the
    problem is I need to lower the solar cell's position on the window: the top is shadowed. But First's and Round TuIts popped up.....
    Of course... At least you figured out the shadowing part....

    Though haven't done anything about it yet. Might also try it (the solar
    cell) up here: this window gets full exposure to the Sun but has the UV
    block so may not work. The potential bad storm has passed, another
    storm coming in for the weekend but not as bad, plus ended up with three charged batteries for the TV.


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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Wed Jan 22 01:20:34 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 14-Jan-2020 07:50 <=-

    Then I'm certainly glad I didn't work for them... sounds more like
    an over-reaction than a nuanced policy....
    Corporate sometimes got a little overboard. At one time the dress
    code was white or black shirts. OK, fine. Black shirt had white
    buttons - nope! Had to be black buttons! What was 'funny' is the black
    shirts we had for sale had white buttons.
    Yes, I remember your mentioning that before... and it would have
    made sense to be able to wear the shirts you had for sale.... ;)
    Corporate did finally allow a tiny bit of colour on the buttons and seams/decoration.

    Someone talked some sense into them, I guess... ;)

    To me it would make sense. Warn and act on the ones who are
    habitually late.
    It would certainly seem to be a more intelligent response.... If they
    did follow thru and fire those who were late without any of their own
    fault, I'd think it would open up the company to lawsuits for unjust
    labor practices....
    That comment was tossed about by some of the more vocal Illinois-side
    associates.
    Did it ever actually happen, that you know of...?
    I'm thinking a yes but can't remember to whom. Know for certain a
    friend of mine in Large Appliances was right at the line and as he was
    a really good performer the store management didn't want to see him go
    for something so stupid so they begged and reminded him not to be late.

    And apparently he also made the effort to be on time pretty much...

    Semi-sort-of did: small "spare" TV is powered by a 12vDC wall wart, so
    a 12v battery will also work. Can be a car battery, except not that
    convenient to run a wire or haul the battery inside. I usually have a
    spare battery or two for the UPS here, so they're already inside and
    easy to move around. Ordered and received some extension cables with
    the correct DC connectors. Put those together yesterday, plus a
    digital voltmeter to monitor the voltage level: drop below a certain
    voltage might damage the TV.
    Only problem right now is recharging the battery. So that's why in an
    earlier message the looking around for a 'special' battery charger.
    Also have a solar cell I bought ages ago -- it shows someone on the
    beach using it to power a radio -- so will see if this will recharge
    the battery. Yesterday was overcast and the solar cell was outputting
    only a few volts; Sun's out and looks like will be pretty bright so
    will see how it works.
    Did you get enough sun for that to work...?
    So far no. There were a couple of sunnier days and appears the
    problem is I need to lower the solar cell's position on the window: the
    top is shadowed. But First's and Round TuIts popped up.....
    Of course... At least you figured out the shadowing part....
    Though haven't done anything about it yet. Might also try it (the
    solar cell) up here: this window gets full exposure to the Sun but has
    the UV block so may not work. The potential bad storm has passed,
    another storm coming in for the weekend but not as bad, plus ended up
    with three charged batteries for the TV.

    So less urgency to check out the solar option.... at least for now...

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Wed Jan 22 10:10:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    Had glanced at the preview of this message, hit the key sequences to
    reply than cancelled and went back to read the header. Went back
    because something didn't look right/caught my attention. The display
    had shown "Message # 11100" -- the binary-like message number had caught
    my attention. (BTW, it's the number of the message here; woul dhave a different number at other sites.)



    Then I'm certainly glad I didn't work for them... sounds more like
    an over-reaction than a nuanced policy....
    Corporate sometimes got a little overboard. At one time the dress
    code was white or black shirts. OK, fine. Black shirt had white
    buttons - nope! Had to be black buttons! What was 'funny' is the black
    shirts we had for sale had white buttons.
    Yes, I remember your mentioning that before... and it would have
    made sense to be able to wear the shirts you had for sale.... ;)
    Corporate did finally allow a tiny bit of colour on the buttons and seams/decoration.
    Someone talked some sense into them, I guess... ;)

    Or enough complaints from the smaller stores! The large stores probably carried acceptable merchandise but us medium-sized stores did not.


    To me it would make sense. Warn and act on the ones who are
    habitually late.
    It would certainly seem to be a more intelligent response.... If they
    did follow thru and fire those who were late without any of their own
    fault, I'd think it would open up the company to lawsuits for unjust
    labor practices....
    That comment was tossed about by some of the more vocal Illinois-side
    associates.
    Did it ever actually happen, that you know of...?
    I'm thinking a yes but can't remember to whom. Know for certain a
    friend of mine in Large Appliances was right at the line and as he was
    a really good performer the store management didn't want to see him go
    for something so stupid so they begged and reminded him not to be late.
    And apparently he also made the effort to be on time pretty
    much...

    AFAIK yes. He was 'fiesty' enough where he would attempt to comply
    within reason so leave early to compensate for a traffic slow-down and
    travel time to use a different bridge if a reported traffic jam but if
    the traffic jam occurred after he left (so no notification) he would
    fight any 'black marks'. I was aware of some of the activties but
    didn't inquire: some times one is better to not know the details and so
    could be helpful.


    Semi-sort-of did: small "spare" TV is powered by a 12vDC wall wart, so
    a 12v battery will also work. Can be a car battery, except not that
    convenient to run a wire or haul the battery inside. I usually have a
    spare battery or two for the UPS here, so they're already inside and
    easy to move around. Ordered and received some extension cables with
    the correct DC connectors. Put those together yesterday, plus a
    digital voltmeter to monitor the voltage level: drop below a certain
    voltage might damage the TV.
    Only problem right now is recharging the battery. So that's why in an
    earlier message the looking around for a 'special' battery charger.
    Also have a solar cell I bought ages ago -- it shows someone on the
    beach using it to power a radio -- so will see if this will recharge
    the battery. Yesterday was overcast and the solar cell was outputting
    only a few volts; Sun's out and looks like will be pretty bright so
    will see how it works.
    Did you get enough sun for that to work...?
    So far no. There were a couple of sunnier days and appears the
    problem is I need to lower the solar cell's position on the window: the
    top is shadowed. But First's and Round TuIts popped up.....
    Of course... At least you figured out the shadowing part....
    Though haven't done anything about it yet. Might also try it (the
    solar cell) up here: this window gets full exposure to the Sun but has
    the UV block so may not work. The potential bad storm has passed,
    another storm coming in for the weekend but not as bad, plus ended up
    with three charged batteries for the TV.
    So less urgency to check out the solar option.... at least for
    now...

    <Chuckle> Yes, for now. Good news: I got the urge to straighten out
    that part of the basement. Bad news: some of the mess is just moved to
    a different location while being sorted. Good news: some of the moved
    mess is waiting to be put out in next Monday's trash pickup. Good news:
    found another solar charger which I brought up here to test, so suppose
    the 'bad news' is haven't tested yet. (Need to find a Round TuIt!)

    Was sort of checking out the original solar charger in the basement
    window while doing my clean up: lowering it would get rid of the shadow
    from the house but not sure if enough. At this point moved stuff is in
    the way.

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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Wed Jan 29 22:48:08 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 22-Jan-2020 10:10 <=-

    Had glanced at the preview of this message, hit the key sequences to
    reply than cancelled and went back to read the header. Went back
    because something didn't look right/caught my attention. The display
    had shown "Message # 11100" -- the binary-like message number had
    caught my attention. (BTW, it's the number of the message here; would have a different number at other sites.)

    Cute... and right that it would be unique to your system... :) If I
    just did the math right, that would be 56 in decimal....?

    Then I'm certainly glad I didn't work for them... sounds more like
    an over-reaction than a nuanced policy....
    Corporate sometimes got a little overboard. At one time the dress
    code was white or black shirts. OK, fine. Black shirt had white
    buttons - nope! Had to be black buttons! What was 'funny' is the black
    shirts we had for sale had white buttons.
    Yes, I remember your mentioning that before... and it would have
    made sense to be able to wear the shirts you had for sale.... ;)
    Corporate did finally allow a tiny bit of colour on the buttons and
    seams/decoration.
    Someone talked some sense into them, I guess... ;)
    Or enough complaints from the smaller stores! The large stores
    probably carried acceptable merchandise but us medium-sized stores did not.

    True... that might have played into it... :)

    Did it ever actually happen, that you know of...?
    I'm thinking a yes but can't remember to whom. Know for certain a
    friend of mine in Large Appliances was right at the line and as he was
    a really good performer the store management didn't want to see him go
    for something so stupid so they begged and reminded him not to be late.
    And apparently he also made the effort to be on time pretty much...
    AFAIK yes. He was 'fiesty' enough where he would attempt to comply
    within reason so leave early to compensate for a traffic slow-down and travel time to use a different bridge if a reported traffic jam but if
    the traffic jam occurred after he left (so no notification) he would
    fight any 'black marks'. I was aware of some of the activties but
    didn't inquire: some times one is better to not know the details and
    so could be helpful.

    True.

    Also have a solar cell I bought ages ago -- it shows someone on the
    beach using it to power a radio -- so will see if this will recharge
    the battery. Yesterday was overcast and the solar cell was outputting
    only a few volts; Sun's out and looks like will be pretty bright so
    will see how it works.
    Did you get enough sun for that to work...?
    So far no. There were a couple of sunnier days and appears the
    problem is I need to lower the solar cell's position on the window: the
    top is shadowed. But First's and Round TuIts popped up.....
    Of course... At least you figured out the shadowing part....
    Though haven't done anything about it yet. Might also try it (the
    solar cell) up here: this window gets full exposure to the Sun but has
    the UV block so may not work. The potential bad storm has passed,
    another storm coming in for the weekend but not as bad, plus ended up
    with three charged batteries for the TV.
    So less urgency to check out the solar option.... at least for now...
    <Chuckle> Yes, for now. Good news: I got the urge to straighten out
    that part of the basement. Bad news: some of the mess is just moved
    to a different location while being sorted. Good news: some of the
    moved mess is waiting to be put out in next Monday's trash pickup.
    Good news: found another solar charger which I brought up here to test,
    so suppose the 'bad news' is haven't tested yet. (Need to find a Round TuIt!)

    Overall, not a bad set of affairs... ;) I see more positives than not, there... ;) And useful to have a second solar charger as long as it
    works, too... ;)

    Was sort of checking out the original solar charger in the basement
    window while doing my clean up: lowering it would get rid of the
    shadow from the house but not sure if enough. At this point moved
    stuff is in the way.

    As long as you get it moved back out of the way fairly soon, it
    shouldn't be much of a setback... ;) And it does sound like it will be
    a trial and error sort of assessment...

    ... Avenge yourself: live long enough to be a problem to your
    children.

    That could backfire.... <G>

    ttyl neb

    ... Lets put the FUN back in dysFUNctional

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Thu Jan 30 15:38:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    Had glanced at the preview of this message, hit the key sequences to
    reply than cancelled and went back to read the header. Went back
    because something didn't look right/caught my attention. The display
    had shown "Message # 11100" -- the binary-like message number had
    caught my attention. (BTW, it's the number of the message here; would have a different number at other sites.)
    Cute... and right that it would be unique to your system... :)
    If I just did the math right, that would be 56 in decimal....?

    28. 16 8 4 2 1

    56 is 111000 32 16 8 4 2 1



    Then I'm certainly glad I didn't work for them... sounds more like
    an over-reaction than a nuanced policy....
    Corporate sometimes got a little overboard. At one time the dress
    code was white or black shirts. OK, fine. Black shirt had white
    buttons - nope! Had to be black buttons! What was 'funny' is the black
    shirts we had for sale had white buttons.
    Yes, I remember your mentioning that before... and it would have
    made sense to be able to wear the shirts you had for sale.... ;)
    Corporate did finally allow a tiny bit of colour on the buttons and
    seams/decoration.
    Someone talked some sense into them, I guess... ;)
    Or enough complaints from the smaller stores! The large stores
    probably carried acceptable merchandise but us medium-sized stores did not.
    True... that might have played into it... :)

    Probably. The ones making up the rules may have wandered the departents
    (or sent a flunky) and came back with "yes, we have it" and forgot the
    other stores wouldn't carry all the merchandise. Or intended to send
    and never did.




    Also have a solar cell I bought ages ago -- it shows someone on the
    beach using it to power a radio -- so will see if this will recharge
    the battery. Yesterday was overcast and the solar cell was outputting
    only a few volts; Sun's out and looks like will be pretty bright so
    will see how it works.
    Did you get enough sun for that to work...?
    So far no. There were a couple of sunnier days and appears the
    problem is I need to lower the solar cell's position on the window: the
    top is shadowed. But First's and Round TuIts popped up.....
    Of course... At least you figured out the shadowing part....
    Though haven't done anything about it yet. Might also try it (the
    solar cell) up here: this window gets full exposure to the Sun but has
    the UV block so may not work. The potential bad storm has passed,
    another storm coming in for the weekend but not as bad, plus ended up
    with three charged batteries for the TV.
    So less urgency to check out the solar option.... at least for now...
    <Chuckle> Yes, for now. Good news: I got the urge to straighten out
    that part of the basement. Bad news: some of the mess is just moved
    to a different location while being sorted. Good news: some of the
    moved mess is waiting to be put out in next Monday's trash pickup.
    Good news: found another solar charger which I brought up here to test,
    so suppose the 'bad news' is haven't tested yet. (Need to find a Round TuIt!)
    Overall, not a bad set of affairs... ;) I see more positives
    than not, there... ;) And useful to have a second solar charger
    as long as it works, too... ;)

    Which I haven't tested yet. Still waiting for Round TuIt, though I
    might be able to give a more believable excuse as it's been cloudy
    outside. If the Sun does break through hides quickly. OTOH low Sun conditions would be a good test. ...Moved the box the solar charger is
    in to 'slightly in the way' to remind me this afternoon.


    Was sort of checking out the original solar charger in the basement
    window while doing my clean up: lowering it would get rid of the
    shadow from the house but not sure if enough. At this point moved
    stuff is in the way.
    As long as you get it moved back out of the way fairly soon, it
    shouldn't be much of a setback... ;) And it does sound like it
    will be a trial and error sort of assessment...

    As I mentioned in an earlier message I'm (finally!!) cleaning up my
    Electronics Workbench Area. Part of the delay was no projects to work
    on -- nice to have those teeny-tiny components so the device is compact
    but can't hand-solder! (Imagine the size of your cellphone with
    integrated circuits the size of a thumbdrive!) Plus some of the old
    stuff I had been saving for parts, etc., is now just too old.



    ... Avenge yourself: live long enough to be a problem to your
    children.
    That could backfire.... <G>

    Wonder if I can find the tagline about the children are the ones
    selecting the retirment home?!

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    ¯ ®


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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to BARRY MARTIN on Sat Feb 1 03:30:00 2020
    Barry,

    ... Liquidity: when you look at your retirement funds and wet your pants.

    Or decide who's holding the gun, and who's driving the getaway car. :P

    Daryl


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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Wed Feb 5 01:34:22 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 30-Jan-2020 15:38 <=-

    Had glanced at the preview of this message, hit the key sequences to
    reply than cancelled and went back to read the header. Went back
    because something didn't look right/caught my attention. The display
    had shown "Message # 11100" -- the binary-like message number had
    caught my attention. (BTW, it's the number of the message here; would
    have a different number at other sites.)
    Cute... and right that it would be unique to your system... :)
    If I just did the math right, that would be 56 in decimal....?
    28. 16 8 4 2 1
    56 is 111000 32 16 8 4 2 1

    Ah... I remembered wrong which place was which... I'd made the last
    (first?) digit 2 instead of 1, I think.... never had to calculate in
    binary, just was exposed to it later...

    Corporate sometimes got a little overboard. At one time the dress
    code was white or black shirts. OK, fine. Black shirt had white
    buttons - nope! Had to be black buttons! What was 'funny' is the black
    shirts we had for sale had white buttons.
    Yes, I remember your mentioning that before... and it would have
    made sense to be able to wear the shirts you had for sale.... ;)
    Corporate did finally allow a tiny bit of colour on the buttons and
    seams/decoration.
    Someone talked some sense into them, I guess... ;)
    Or enough complaints from the smaller stores! The large stores
    probably carried acceptable merchandise but us medium-sized stores did
    not.
    True... that might have played into it... :)
    Probably. The ones making up the rules may have wandered the
    departments (or sent a flunky) and came back with "yes, we have it" and forgot the other stores wouldn't carry all the merchandise. Or
    intended to send and never did.

    A range of where the shortsightedness might have stemmed from...

    At least you figured out the shadowing part....
    Though haven't done anything about it yet. Might also try it (the
    solar cell) up here: this window gets full exposure to the Sun but has
    the UV block so may not work. The potential bad storm has passed,
    another storm coming in for the weekend but not as bad, plus ended up
    with three charged batteries for the TV.
    So less urgency to check out the solar option.... at least for now...
    <Chuckle> Yes, for now. Good news: I got the urge to straighten out
    that part of the basement. Bad news: some of the mess is just moved
    to a different location while being sorted. Good news: some of the
    moved mess is waiting to be put out in next Monday's trash pickup.
    Good news: found another solar charger which I brought up here to test,
    so suppose the 'bad news' is haven't tested yet. (Need to find a Round
    TuIt!)
    Overall, not a bad set of affairs... ;) I see more positives than
    not, there... ;) And useful to have a second solar charger as long as
    it works, too... ;)
    Which I haven't tested yet. Still waiting for Round TuIt, though I
    might be able to give a more believable excuse as it's been cloudy outside. If the Sun does break through hides quickly. OTOH low Sun conditions would be a good test. ...Moved the box the solar charger
    is in to 'slightly in the way' to remind me this afternoon.

    Any progress there...?

    Was sort of checking out the original solar charger in the basement
    window while doing my clean up: lowering it would get rid of the
    shadow from the house but not sure if enough. At this point moved
    stuff is in the way.
    As long as you get it moved back out of the way fairly soon, it
    shouldn't be much of a setback... ;) And it does sound like it will
    be a trial and error sort of assessment...
    As I mentioned in an earlier message I'm (finally!!) cleaning up my Electronics Workbench Area. Part of the delay was no projects to work
    on -- nice to have those teeny-tiny components so the device is
    compact but can't hand-solder! (Imagine the size of your cellphone
    with integrated circuits the size of a thumbdrive!) Plus some of the
    old stuff I had been saving for parts, etc., is now just too old.

    So the But First list has dwindled down to Now This Project... ;)

    ... Avenge yourself: live long enough to be a problem to your
    children.
    That could backfire.... <G>
    Wonder if I can find the tagline about the children are the ones
    selecting the retirement home?!

    I've seen a pin with that on it... Be kind to your children, they'll be choosing your retirement home... Dunno if I have a tag with that
    either... :)

    ttyl neb

    ... Heredity is what sets parents of a teenager wondering about each other

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Wed Feb 5 08:39:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    Had glanced at the preview of this message, hit the key sequences to
    reply than cancelled and went back to read the header. Went back
    because something didn't look right/caught my attention. The display
    had shown "Message # 11100" -- the binary-like message number had
    caught my attention. (BTW, it's the number of the message here; would
    have a different number at other sites.)
    Cute... and right that it would be unique to your system... :)
    If I just did the math right, that would be 56 in decimal....?
    28. 16 8 4 2 1
    56 is 111000 32 16 8 4 2 1
    Ah... I remembered wrong which place was which... I'd made the
    last (first?) digit 2 instead of 1, I think.... never had to
    calculate in binary, just was exposed to it later...

    For me more or less the same (surprise!! <g>). I have used the decimal-to-binary encoding to troubleshoot a TV (!!). Heathkit offered electronics kits: computers, oscilloscopes, Ham radios, televisions, ... freezer failure alarms, water leak detectors.... Anyway, built a TV, the channel display was sometimes not quite right: was supposed to display
    "Channel 4" and it would sometimes display something like "Chanbel 4".
    A little detective work and I found in binary the problem was always
    because a specific line (connection) was supposed to be high (1) instead
    of low (0). Narrows down from around fourteen connections to two (seven
    wires, two ends). Yea! Resoldered both ends, no more display issues.




    Corporate sometimes got a little overboard. At one time the dress
    code was white or black shirts. OK, fine. Black shirt had white
    buttons - nope! Had to be black buttons! What was 'funny' is the
    black BM>>>> shirts we had for sale had white buttons.
    Yes, I remember your mentioning that before... and it would have
    made sense to be able to wear the shirts you had for sale.... ;)
    Corporate did finally allow a tiny bit of colour on the buttons and
    seams/decoration.
    Someone talked some sense into them, I guess... ;)
    Or enough complaints from the smaller stores! The large stores
    probably carried acceptable merchandise but us medium-sized stores did
    not.
    True... that might have played into it... :)
    Probably. The ones making up the rules may have wandered the
    departments (or sent a flunky) and came back with "yes, we have it" and forgot the other stores wouldn't carry all the merchandise. Or
    intended to send and never did.
    A range of where the shortsightedness might have stemmed from...

    Yes. The 'clean look' of all-white or all-black was a good idea, just
    could not be properly implemented. It could be done, but at a cost, and
    the cost was to the employees and the company as we would have to spend
    more money elsewhere (no assosicate discount) and the elsewhere meant we
    were not spending money with the company.


    At least you figured out the shadowing part....
    Though haven't done anything about it yet. Might also try it (the
    solar cell) up here: this window gets full exposure to the Sun but has
    the UV block so may not work. The potential bad storm has passed,
    another storm coming in for the weekend but not as bad, plus ended up
    with three charged batteries for the TV.
    So less urgency to check out the solar option.... at least for now...
    <Chuckle> Yes, for now. Good news: I got the urge to straighten out
    that part of the basement. Bad news: some of the mess is just moved
    to a different location while being sorted. Good news: some of the
    moved mess is waiting to be put out in next Monday's trash pickup.
    Good news: found another solar charger which I brought up here to test,
    so suppose the 'bad news' is haven't tested yet. (Need to find a Round
    TuIt!)
    Overall, not a bad set of affairs... ;) I see more positives than
    not, there... ;) And useful to have a second solar charger as long as
    it works, too... ;)
    Which I haven't tested yet. Still waiting for Round TuIt, though I
    might be able to give a more believable excuse as it's been cloudy outside. If the Sun does break through hides quickly. OTOH low Sun conditions would be a good test. ...Moved the box the solar charger
    is in to 'slightly in the way' to remind me this afternoon.
    Any progress there...?

    <chuckle> Yes -- three or four days ago reported it wasn't working.
    (This being behind in e-mail does have some disadvantages!) As I
    mentioned then, I think the primary problem is the UV Block in the
    windows: doesn't allow the Sun to fully activate the solar cells. I had
    the same issue with a 'solar flashlight' I carried with me at the store.
    To recharge I had to put it outside as it wouldn't recharge through the window.


    Was sort of checking out the original solar charger in the basement
    window while doing my clean up: lowering it would get rid of the
    shadow from the house but not sure if enough. At this point moved
    stuff is in the way.
    As long as you get it moved back out of the way fairly soon, it
    shouldn't be much of a setback... ;) And it does sound like it will
    be a trial and error sort of assessment...
    As I mentioned in an earlier message I'm (finally!!) cleaning up my Electronics Workbench Area. Part of the delay was no projects to work
    on -- nice to have those teeny-tiny components so the device is
    compact but can't hand-solder! (Imagine the size of your cellphone
    with integrated circuits the size of a thumbdrive!) Plus some of the
    old stuff I had been saving for parts, etc., is now just too old.
    So the But First list has dwindled down to Now This Project... ;)

    For now! Plus I made a bit of a mess up here because of cleaning
    downstairs: some items downstairs currently make more sense to be up
    here so were brought up. Need to sort but various interruptions.


    ... Avenge yourself: live long enough to be a problem to your
    children.
    That could backfire.... <G>
    Wonder if I can find the tagline about the children are the ones
    selecting the retirement home?!
    I've seen a pin with that on it... Be kind to your children,
    they'll be choosing your retirement home... Dunno if I have a
    tag with that either... :)

    I think I looked in my collection while getting ready to pack the reply
    into the REP but didn't find.


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    ¯ ®


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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Sun Feb 9 02:21:06 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 05-Feb-2020 08:39 <=-

    because something didn't look right/caught my attention. The display
    had shown "Message # 11100" -- the binary-like message number had
    caught my attention. (BTW, it's the number of the message here; would
    have a different number at other sites.)
    Cute... and right that it would be unique to your system... :)
    If I just did the math right, that would be 56 in decimal....?
    28. 16 8 4 2 1
    56 is 111000 32 16 8 4 2 1
    Ah... I remembered wrong which place was which... I'd made the last
    (first?) digit 2 instead of 1, I think.... never had to calculate in
    binary, just was exposed to it later...
    For me more or less the same (surprise!! <g>). I have used the decimal-to-binary encoding to troubleshoot a TV (!!).

    You may have mentioned that one before....

    Heathkit offered electronics kits: computers, oscilloscopes, Ham radios, televisions, ... freezer failure alarms, water leak detectors....
    Anyway, built a TV, the channel display was sometimes not quite right:
    was supposed to display "Channel 4" and it would sometimes display something like "Chanbel 4". A little detective work and I found in
    binary the problem was always because a specific line (connection) was supposed to be high (1) instead of low (0). Narrows down from around fourteen connections to two (seven wires, two ends). Yea! Resoldered both ends, no more display issues.

    Just a bit arcane.... ;) but, I think I followed that.... even if
    there's no chance I could replicate it... <G>

    Yes, I remember your mentioning that before... and it would have
    made sense to be able to wear the shirts you had for sale.... ;)
    Corporate did finally allow a tiny bit of colour on the buttons and
    seams/decoration.
    Someone talked some sense into them, I guess... ;)
    Or enough complaints from the smaller stores! The large stores
    probably carried acceptable merchandise but us medium-sized stores
    did not.
    True... that might have played into it... :)
    Probably. The ones making up the rules may have wandered the
    departments (or sent a flunky) and came back with "yes, we have it" and
    forgot the other stores wouldn't carry all the merchandise. Or
    intended to send and never did.
    A range of where the shortsightedness might have stemmed from...
    Yes. The 'clean look' of all-white or all-black was a good idea, just could not be properly implemented. It could be done, but at a cost,
    and the cost was to the employees and the company as we would have to spend more money elsewhere (no assosicate discount) and the elsewhere meant we were not spending money with the company.

    So, in hindsight, they were shooting themselves with the policy... ;)

    So less urgency to check out the solar option.... at least for now...
    <Chuckle> Yes, for now. Good news: I got the urge to straighten out
    that part of the basement. Bad news: some of the mess is just moved
    to a different location while being sorted. Good news: some of the
    moved mess is waiting to be put out in next Monday's trash pickup.
    Good news: found another solar charger which I brought up here to
    test, so suppose the 'bad news' is haven't tested yet. (Need to find
    a Round TuIt!)
    Overall, not a bad set of affairs... ;) I see more positives than
    not, there... ;) And useful to have a second solar charger as long
    as it works, too... ;)
    Which I haven't tested yet. Still waiting for Round TuIt, though I
    might be able to give a more believable excuse as it's been cloudy
    outside. If the Sun does break through hides quickly. OTOH low Sun
    conditions would be a good test. ...Moved the box the solar charger
    is in to 'slightly in the way' to remind me this afternoon.
    Any progress there...?
    <chuckle> Yes -- three or four days ago reported it wasn't working.
    (This being behind in e-mail does have some disadvantages!) As I mentioned then, I think the primary problem is the UV Block in the windows: doesn't allow the Sun to fully activate the solar cells.

    Yes, I remember answering that message.... :)

    I had the same issue with a 'solar flashlight' I carried with me at
    the store. To recharge I had to put it outside as it wouldn't
    recharge through the window.

    Makes sense....

    Was sort of checking out the original solar charger in the basement
    window while doing my clean up: lowering it would get rid of the
    shadow from the house but not sure if enough. At this point moved
    stuff is in the way.
    As long as you get it moved back out of the way fairly soon, it
    shouldn't be much of a setback... ;) And it does sound like it will
    be a trial and error sort of assessment...
    As I mentioned in an earlier message I'm (finally!!) cleaning up my
    Electronics Workbench Area. Part of the delay was no projects to work
    on -- nice to have those teeny-tiny components so the device is
    compact but can't hand-solder! (Imagine the size of your cellphone
    with integrated circuits the size of a thumbdrive!) Plus some of the
    old stuff I had been saving for parts, etc., is now just too old.
    So the But First list has dwindled down to Now This Project... ;)
    For now! Plus I made a bit of a mess up here because of cleaning downstairs: some items downstairs currently make more sense to be up
    here so were brought up. Need to sort but various interruptions.

    Which is why projects always take longer than anticipated.... ;)

    ... Avenge yourself: live long enough to be a problem to your
    children.
    That could backfire.... <G>
    Wonder if I can find the tagline about the children are the ones
    selecting the retirement home?!
    I've seen a pin with that on it... Be kind to your children, they'll
    be choosing your retirement home... Dunno if I have a tag with that
    either... :)
    I think I looked in my collection while getting ready to pack the
    reply into the REP but didn't find.

    I didn't find it in my collection...

    ... Be nice to your kids: they select your nursing home.

    There it is.... ;)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Sun Feb 9 09:22:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    because something didn't look right/caught my attention. The display
    had shown "Message # 11100" -- the binary-like message number had
    caught my attention. (BTW, it's the number of the message here; would
    have a different number at other sites.)
    Cute... and right that it would be unique to your system... :)
    If I just did the math right, that would be 56 in decimal....?
    28. 16 8 4 2 1
    56 is 111000 32 16 8 4 2 1
    Ah... I remembered wrong which place was which... I'd made the last
    (first?) digit 2 instead of 1, I think.... never had to calculate in
    binary, just was exposed to it later...
    For me more or less the same (surprise!! <g>). I have used the decimal-to-binary encoding to troubleshoot a TV (!!).
    You may have mentioned that one before....

    Me repeat stuff? Naaa!!! <g>


    Heathkit offered electronics kits: computers, oscilloscopes, Ham radios, televisions, ... freezer failure alarms, water leak detectors....
    Anyway, built a TV, the channel display was sometimes not quite right:
    was supposed to display "Channel 4" and it would sometimes display something like "Chanbel 4". A little detective work and I found in
    binary the problem was always because a specific line (connection) was supposed to be high (1) instead of low (0). Narrows down from around fourteen connections to two (seven wires, two ends). Yea! Resoldered both ends, no more display issues.
    Just a bit arcane.... ;) but, I think I followed that.... even
    if there's no chance I could replicate it... <G>

    Probably not! OTOH sort of a technical example of troubleshooting wiring errors. Pretty sure I told you about the electrical issues here and at
    a friend's aunt's place of wiring done by electricians which failed
    (wire loosened). Test and notice a pattern as to what is working and
    what is not working. ...And if one doesn't know what they're doing
    better to leave alone and have a professional correct but one can still observe "this outlet works and these do not".


    Yes, I remember your mentioning that before... and it would have
    made sense to be able to wear the shirts you had for sale.... ;)
    Corporate did finally allow a tiny bit of colour on the buttons and
    seams/decoration.
    Someone talked some sense into them, I guess... ;)
    Or enough complaints from the smaller stores! The large stores
    probably carried acceptable merchandise but us medium-sized stores
    did not.
    True... that might have played into it... :)
    Probably. The ones making up the rules may have wandered the
    departments (or sent a flunky) and came back with "yes, we have it" and
    forgot the other stores wouldn't carry all the merchandise. Or
    intended to send and never did.
    A range of where the shortsightedness might have stemmed from...
    Yes. The 'clean look' of all-white or all-black was a good idea, just could not be properly implemented. It could be done, but at a cost,
    and the cost was to the employees and the company as we would have to spend more money elsewhere (no assosicate discount) and the elsewhere meant we were not spending money with the company.
    So, in hindsight, they were shooting themselves with the
    policy... ;)

    Yup! IIRC the origination of the policy was not to advertise other
    brands, as in brands we do not carry but then got extended a little too
    far to the stitching.


    So less urgency to check out the solar option.... at least for now...
    <Chuckle> Yes, for now. Good news: I got the urge to straighten out
    that part of the basement. Bad news: some of the mess is just moved
    to a different location while being sorted. Good news: some of the
    moved mess is waiting to be put out in next Monday's trash pickup.
    Good news: found another solar charger which I brought up here to
    test, so suppose the 'bad news' is haven't tested yet. (Need to find
    a Round TuIt!)
    Overall, not a bad set of affairs... ;) I see more positives than
    not, there... ;) And useful to have a second solar charger as long
    as it works, too... ;)
    Which I haven't tested yet. Still waiting for Round TuIt, though I
    might be able to give a more believable excuse as it's been cloudy
    outside. If the Sun does break through hides quickly. OTOH low Sun
    conditions would be a good test. ...Moved the box the solar charger
    is in to 'slightly in the way' to remind me this afternoon.
    Any progress there...?
    <chuckle> Yes -- three or four days ago reported it wasn't working.
    (This being behind in e-mail does have some disadvantages!) As I mentioned then, I think the primary problem is the UV Block in the windows: doesn't allow the Sun to fully activate the solar cells.
    Yes, I remember answering that message.... :)

    Me too! <g> And believe it or not I'd be willing to retest with a
    different solar cell - but! And the 'but' being a checking out of if
    newer or a different type of cell works (generates electricity) with
    'light' as opposed to requiring UV. I don't know enough about how solar
    cells works -- know there are different LEDs: infrared, various colours
    of visibble light, don't know offhand if UV. Might be similar for solar
    cells. OTOH might be cheaper and easier to mount on the other side of
    the UV-blocking windows. Or just plug a charger into the wall outlet
    every so often.



    Was sort of checking out the original solar charger in the basement
    window while doing my clean up: lowering it would get rid of the
    shadow from the house but not sure if enough. At this point moved
    stuff is in the way.
    As long as you get it moved back out of the way fairly soon, it
    shouldn't be much of a setback... ;) And it does sound like it will
    be a trial and error sort of assessment...
    As I mentioned in an earlier message I'm (finally!!) cleaning up my
    Electronics Workbench Area. Part of the delay was no projects to work
    on -- nice to have those teeny-tiny components so the device is
    compact but can't hand-solder! (Imagine the size of your cellphone
    with integrated circuits the size of a thumbdrive!) Plus some of the
    old stuff I had been saving for parts, etc., is now just too old.
    So the But First list has dwindled down to Now This Project... ;)
    For now! Plus I made a bit of a mess up here because of cleaning downstairs: some items downstairs currently make more sense to be up
    here so were brought up. Need to sort but various interruptions.
    Which is why projects always take longer than anticipated.... ;)

    In this case because worse than anticipated! <gg> Also sort of create a
    mess while cleaning up another one: there were some PS/2 type extension
    cables downstairs (for keyboards and mice - the round plug as opposed to
    the USB type). Knew they were down there; right now makes more sense to
    bring the up here where the spare keyboards and mice are - keep all
    together.


    ... Avenge yourself: live long enough to be a problem to your
    children.
    That could backfire.... <G>
    Wonder if I can find the tagline about the children are the ones
    selecting the retirement home?!
    I've seen a pin with that on it... Be kind to your children, they'll
    be choosing your retirement home... Dunno if I have a tag with that
    either... :)
    I think I looked in my collection while getting ready to pack the
    reply into the REP but didn't find.
    I didn't find it in my collection...
    ... Be nice to your kids: they select your nursing home.
    There it is.... ;)

    You may have been doing the same thing I did and used "retire" as the
    search term.


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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Sat Feb 15 21:40:10 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 09-Feb-2020 09:22 <=-

    was supposed to display "Channel 4" and it would sometimes display
    something like "Chanbel 4". A little detective work and I found in
    binary the problem was always because a specific line (connection) was
    supposed to be high (1) instead of low (0). Narrows down from around
    fourteen connections to two (seven wires, two ends). Yea! Resoldered
    both ends, no more display issues.
    Just a bit arcane.... ;) but, I think I followed that.... even
    if there's no chance I could replicate it... <G>
    Probably not! OTOH sort of a technical example of troubleshooting
    wiring errors. Pretty sure I told you about the electrical issues here and at a friend's aunt's place of wiring done by electricians which
    failed (wire loosened). Test and notice a pattern as to what is
    working and what is not working.

    Yes, I do believe you'd mentioned that before...

    ...And if one doesn't know what
    they're doing better to leave alone and have a professional correct but one can still observe "this outlet works and these do not".

    And observation can give a pretty good idea where the issues are...
    whether or not one can do the fix... :)

    Probably. The ones making up the rules may have wandered the
    departments (or sent a flunky) and came back with "yes, we have it" and
    forgot the other stores wouldn't carry all the merchandise. Or
    intended to send and never did.
    A range of where the shortsightedness might have stemmed from...
    Yes. The 'clean look' of all-white or all-black was a good idea, just
    could not be properly implemented. It could be done, but at a cost,
    and the cost was to the employees and the company as we would have to
    spend more money elsewhere (no assosicate discount) and the elsewhere
    meant we were not spending money with the company.
    So, in hindsight, they were shooting themselves with the policy... ;)
    Yup! IIRC the origination of the policy was not to advertise other brands, as in brands we do not carry but then got extended a little
    too far to the stitching.

    Just a bit too far.... ;)

    Overall, not a bad set of affairs... ;) I see more positives than
    not, there... ;) And useful to have a second solar charger as long
    as it works, too... ;)
    Which I haven't tested yet. Still waiting for Round TuIt, though I
    might be able to give a more believable excuse as it's been cloudy
    outside. If the Sun does break through hides quickly. OTOH low Sun
    conditions would be a good test. ...Moved the box the solar charger
    is in to 'slightly in the way' to remind me this afternoon.
    Any progress there...?
    <chuckle> Yes -- three or four days ago reported it wasn't working.
    (This being behind in e-mail does have some disadvantages!) As I
    mentioned then, I think the primary problem is the UV Block in the
    windows: doesn't allow the Sun to fully activate the solar cells.
    Yes, I remember answering that message.... :)
    Me too! <g> And believe it or not I'd be willing to retest with a different solar cell - but! And the 'but' being a checking out of if newer or a different type of cell works (generates electricity) with 'light' as opposed to requiring UV. I don't know enough about how
    solar cells works -- know there are different LEDs: infrared, various colours of visibble light, don't know offhand if UV. Might be similar
    for solar cells. OTOH might be cheaper and easier to mount on the
    other side of the UV-blocking windows. Or just plug a charger into the wall outlet every so often.

    That last does seem simplest... <G> But you do still have a number of
    avenues to possibly pursue... :)

    As I mentioned in an earlier message I'm (finally!!) cleaning up my
    Electronics Workbench Area. Part of the delay was no projects to work
    on -- nice to have those teeny-tiny components so the device is
    compact but can't hand-solder! (Imagine the size of your cellphone
    with integrated circuits the size of a thumbdrive!) Plus some of the
    old stuff I had been saving for parts, etc., is now just too old.
    So the But First list has dwindled down to Now This Project... ;)
    For now! Plus I made a bit of a mess up here because of cleaning
    downstairs: some items downstairs currently make more sense to be up
    here so were brought up. Need to sort but various interruptions.
    Which is why projects always take longer than anticipated.... ;)
    In this case because worse than anticipated! <gg> Also sort of create
    a mess while cleaning up another one: there were some PS/2 type
    extension cables downstairs (for keyboards and mice - the round plug as opposed to the USB type). Knew they were down there; right now makes
    more sense to bring the up here where the spare keyboards and mice are
    - keep all together.

    And take less time to find them when you might need one... at least potentially... ;)

    ... Avenge yourself: live long enough to be a problem to your
    children.
    That could backfire.... <G>
    Wonder if I can find the tagline about the children are the ones
    selecting the retirement home?!
    I've seen a pin with that on it... Be kind to your children, they'll
    be choosing your retirement home... Dunno if I have a tag with that
    either... :)
    I think I looked in my collection while getting ready to pack the
    reply into the REP but didn't find.
    I didn't find it in my collection...
    ... Be nice to your kids: they select your nursing home.
    There it is.... ;)
    You may have been doing the same thing I did and used "retire" as the search term.

    I think I was using 'home' as the search term.... and I didn't have it
    before I snagged the above... <G>

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Sun Feb 16 10:06:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    was supposed to display "Channel 4" and it would sometimes display
    something like "Chanbel 4". A little detective work and I found in
    binary the problem was always because a specific line (connection) was
    supposed to be high (1) instead of low (0). Narrows down from around
    fourteen connections to two (seven wires, two ends). Yea! Resoldered
    both ends, no more display issues.
    Just a bit arcane.... ;) but, I think I followed that.... even
    if there's no chance I could replicate it... <G>
    Probably not! OTOH sort of a technical example of troubleshooting
    wiring errors. Pretty sure I told you about the electrical issues here and at a friend's aunt's place of wiring done by electricians which
    failed (wire loosened). Test and notice a pattern as to what is
    working and what is not working.
    Yes, I do believe you'd mentioned that before...

    Me? Repeat myself? Nahhh!! <g> ..OTOH that did remind me to write a
    reminder note: was told one of the area stations will require a rescan
    around March 17th. The station is affiliated with two local stations;
    not sure about them but will be on the lookout; rescan should catch but
    if too early ==> Channel 6 had done theirs at 11 a.m. while other local stations a little after midnight.


    ...And if one doesn't know what
    they're doing better to leave alone and have a professional correct but one can still observe "this outlet works and these do not".
    And observation can give a pretty good idea where the issues
    are... whether or not one can do the fix... :)

    Right. And sort of laughing because of an incident here years ago: had
    the dining room/family walls redone. Paneling had been glued to the
    drywall plus some other issues so had the old drywall removed and new installed. We were at work; drywaller somehow discovers an outlet no
    longer works so figures he broke it so goes to the hardware store, buys
    and replaces the outlet -- still doesn't work. Tells us and apologizes
    where we get home. Ends up the problem is at a different outlet:
    "Outlet #4" doesn't work but the problem is the output connection at
    "Outlet #3" had come loose.

    #1 ==> #2 ==> #3x--> #4

    Outlet #3 worked fine but the wire to Outlet #4 had loosened so no
    connection, no power to #4.


    Probably. The ones making up the rules may have wandered the
    departments (or sent a flunky) and came back with "yes, we have it" and
    forgot the other stores wouldn't carry all the merchandise. Or
    intended to send and never did.
    A range of where the shortsightedness might have stemmed from...
    Yes. The 'clean look' of all-white or all-black was a good idea, just
    could not be properly implemented. It could be done, but at a cost,
    and the cost was to the employees and the company as we would have to
    spend more money elsewhere (no assosicate discount) and the elsewhere
    meant we were not spending money with the company.
    So, in hindsight, they were shooting themselves with the policy... ;)
    Yup! IIRC the origination of the policy was not to advertise other brands, as in brands we do not carry but then got extended a little
    too far to the stitching.
    Just a bit too far.... ;)

    Just a slight bit!


    Overall, not a bad set of affairs... ;) I see more positives than
    not, there... ;) And useful to have a second solar charger as long
    as it works, too... ;)
    Which I haven't tested yet. Still waiting for Round TuIt, though I
    might be able to give a more believable excuse as it's been cloudy
    outside. If the Sun does break through hides quickly. OTOH low Sun
    conditions would be a good test. ...Moved the box the solar charger
    is in to 'slightly in the way' to remind me this afternoon.
    Any progress there...?
    <chuckle> Yes -- three or four days ago reported it wasn't working.
    (This being behind in e-mail does have some disadvantages!) As I
    mentioned then, I think the primary problem is the UV Block in the
    windows: doesn't allow the Sun to fully activate the solar cells.
    Yes, I remember answering that message.... :)
    Me too! <g> And believe it or not I'd be willing to retest with a different solar cell - but! And the 'but' being a checking out of if newer or a different type of cell works (generates electricity) with 'light' as opposed to requiring UV. I don't know enough about how
    solar cells works -- know there are different LEDs: infrared, various colours of visibble light, don't know offhand if UV. Might be similar
    for solar cells. OTOH might be cheaper and easier to mount on the
    other side of the UV-blocking windows. Or just plug a charger into the wall outlet every so often.
    That last does seem simplest... <G> But you do still have a
    number of avenues to possibly pursue... :)

    Yes, when there is grid power just plug in is the easiest and simplest.
    My overbuild/worst case scenario options start kicking in, plus reading
    when Daryl was without power for days, plus news accounts of people
    without power for extended time and a solar option makes sense. Or some
    sort of other power source option. The sunlight-through-the-glass- block-window-in-the-basement seems easiest: UV should pass through the
    glass blocks (though too thick?), being inside protects the solar cells,
    the location makes it easy for me to hook up the battery. Just need to
    test later.


    As I mentioned in an earlier message I'm (finally!!) cleaning up my
    Electronics Workbench Area. Part of the delay was no projects to work
    on -- nice to have those teeny-tiny components so the device is
    compact but can't hand-solder! (Imagine the size of your cellphone
    with integrated circuits the size of a thumbdrive!) Plus some of the
    old stuff I had been saving for parts, etc., is now just too old.
    So the But First list has dwindled down to Now This Project... ;)
    For now! Plus I made a bit of a mess up here because of cleaning
    downstairs: some items downstairs currently make more sense to be up
    here so were brought up. Need to sort but various interruptions.
    Which is why projects always take longer than anticipated.... ;)
    In this case because worse than anticipated! <gg> Also sort of create
    a mess while cleaning up another one: there were some PS/2 type
    extension cables downstairs (for keyboards and mice - the round plug as opposed to the USB type). Knew they were down there; right now makes
    more sense to bring the up here where the spare keyboards and mice are
    - keep all together.
    And take less time to find them when you might need one... at
    least potentially... ;)

    Just need to find the right box! <g> I do label, and right now instead
    of writing on the boxes I fold a sheet of paper in half and list the
    general contents on the paper which is hanging over the side of the box.
    Easier and less messy looking to update the paper than scribble on the
    box.


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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Sat Feb 22 20:00:52 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 16-Feb-2020 10:06 <=-

    Just a bit arcane.... ;) but, I think I followed that.... even
    if there's no chance I could replicate it... <G>
    Probably not! OTOH sort of a technical example of troubleshooting
    wiring errors. Pretty sure I told you about the electrical issues here
    and at a friend's aunt's place of wiring done by electricians which
    failed (wire loosened). Test and notice a pattern as to what is
    working and what is not working.
    Yes, I do believe you'd mentioned that before...
    Me? Repeat myself? Nahhh!! <g> ..OTOH that did remind me to write a reminder note: was told one of the area stations will require a rescan around March 17th. The station is affiliated with two local stations;
    not sure about them but will be on the lookout; rescan should catch
    but if too early ==> Channel 6 had done theirs at 11 a.m. while other local stations a little after midnight.

    Nothing really wrong with a little repetition... and reminders are
    always good... ;) You might even hear something closer to the rescan
    date about what time each will be happening....

    ...And if one doesn't know what
    they're doing better to leave alone and have a professional correct but
    one can still observe "this outlet works and these do not".
    And observation can give a pretty good idea where the issues are...
    whether or not one can do the fix... :)
    Right. And sort of laughing because of an incident here years ago:
    had the dining room/family walls redone. Paneling had been glued to
    the drywall plus some other issues so had the old drywall removed and
    new installed. We were at work; drywaller somehow discovers an outlet
    no longer works so figures he broke it so goes to the hardware store,
    buys and replaces the outlet -- still doesn't work. Tells us and apologizes where we get home. Ends up the problem is at a different outlet: "Outlet #4" doesn't work but the problem is the output
    connection at "Outlet #3" had come loose.
    #1 ==> #2 ==> #3x--> #4
    Outlet #3 worked fine but the wire to Outlet #4 had loosened so no connection, no power to #4.

    Yup... you've told that story before too, but it's quite apt... :) So
    you fixed the connection at #3 and everything worked again... :)

    Yes, I remember answering that message.... :)
    Me too! <g> And believe it or not I'd be willing to retest with a
    different solar cell - but! And the 'but' being a checking out of if
    newer or a different type of cell works (generates electricity) with
    'light' as opposed to requiring UV. I don't know enough about how
    solar cells works -- know there are different LEDs: infrared, various
    colours of visibble light, don't know offhand if UV. Might be similar
    for solar cells. OTOH might be cheaper and easier to mount on the
    other side of the UV-blocking windows. Or just plug a charger into the
    wall outlet every so often.
    That last does seem simplest... <G> But you do still have a number of
    avenues to possibly pursue... :)
    Yes, when there is grid power just plug in is the easiest and
    simplest. My overbuild/worst case scenario options start kicking in,
    plus reading when Daryl was without power for days, plus news accounts
    of people without power for extended time and a solar option makes
    sense. Or some sort of other power source option. The sunlight-through-the-glass-block-window-in-the-basement seems easiest:
    UV should pass through the glass blocks (though too thick?), being
    inside protects the solar cells, the location makes it easy for me to
    hook up the battery. Just need to test later.

    Good question on whether the glass-block windows might be too thick... definitely would need to test that out thoroughly.... but the other
    factors do sound promising... <G>

    So the But First list has dwindled down to Now This Project... ;)
    For now! Plus I made a bit of a mess up here because of cleaning
    downstairs: some items downstairs currently make more sense to be up
    here so were brought up. Need to sort but various interruptions.
    Which is why projects always take longer than anticipated.... ;)
    In this case because worse than anticipated! <gg> Also sort of create
    a mess while cleaning up another one: there were some PS/2 type
    extension cables downstairs (for keyboards and mice - the round plug as
    opposed to the USB type). Knew they were down there; right now makes
    more sense to bring the up here where the spare keyboards and mice are
    - keep all together.
    And take less time to find them when you might need one... at least
    potentially... ;)
    Just need to find the right box! <g> I do label, and right now
    instead of writing on the boxes I fold a sheet of paper in half and
    list the general contents on the paper which is hanging over the side
    of the box. Easier and less messy looking to update the paper than scribble on the box.

    That does make a lot of sense... :) And might be quicker to read a
    sheet of paper along the side of the box rather having to move boxes
    around to read the tops of them or something... ;)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Sun Feb 23 08:37:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    Just a bit arcane.... ;) but, I think I followed that.... even
    if there's no chance I could replicate it... <G>
    Probably not! OTOH sort of a technical example of troubleshooting
    wiring errors. Pretty sure I told you about the electrical issues here
    and at a friend's aunt's place of wiring done by electricians which
    failed (wire loosened). Test and notice a pattern as to what is
    working and what is not working.
    Yes, I do believe you'd mentioned that before...
    Me? Repeat myself? Nahhh!! <g> ..OTOH that did remind me to write a reminder note: was told one of the area stations will require a rescan around March 17th. The station is affiliated with two local stations;
    not sure about them but will be on the lookout; rescan should catch
    but if too early ==> Channel 6 had done theirs at 11 a.m. while other local stations a little after midnight.
    Nothing really wrong with a little repetition... and reminders
    are always good... ;) You might even hear something closer to
    the rescan date about what time each will be happening....

    Yes: with me sometimes with the repeat I'll remember a detail I didn't
    catch before. As for the rescan, have a couple of people also looking
    for the date as they will have to rescan their TVs also.


    ...And if one doesn't know what
    they're doing better to leave alone and have a professional correct but
    one can still observe "this outlet works and these do not".
    And observation can give a pretty good idea where the issues are...
    whether or not one can do the fix... :)
    Right. And sort of laughing because of an incident here years ago:
    had the dining room/family walls redone. Paneling had been glued to
    the drywall plus some other issues so had the old drywall removed and
    new installed. We were at work; drywaller somehow discovers an outlet
    no longer works so figures he broke it so goes to the hardware store,
    buys and replaces the outlet -- still doesn't work. Tells us and apologizes where we get home. Ends up the problem is at a different outlet: "Outlet #4" doesn't work but the problem is the output
    connection at "Outlet #3" had come loose.
    #1 ==> #2 ==> #3x--> #4
    Outlet #3 worked fine but the wire to Outlet #4 had loosened so no connection, no power to #4.
    Yup... you've told that story before too, but it's quite apt...
    :) So you fixed the connection at #3 and everything worked
    again... :)

    Oh-oh! I'm on Summer Repeats like the TV networks?! As for the outlet
    repair, yes.


    <solar cell to charge battery of bettery-powered TV>
    sunlight-through-the-glass-block-window-in-the-basement seems easiest:
    UV should pass through the glass blocks (though too thick?), being
    inside protects the solar cells, the location makes it easy for me to
    hook up the battery. Just need to test later.
    Good question on whether the glass-block windows might be too
    thick... definitely would need to test that out thoroughly....
    but the other factors do sound promising... <G>

    Yes, potential for the UV -- OK: I wasn't sure on the excitor: figuring
    UV as IR didn't sound right. Quick scan of a couple of articles and
    they say photons; could still be a preference for the high end of the
    visible light spectrum. Will see what happens when lower the solar cell
    in the basement window to give it better light exposure and see what
    happens.



    Just need to find the right box! <g> I do label, and right now
    instead of writing on the boxes I fold a sheet of paper in half and
    list the general contents on the paper which is hanging over the side
    of the box. Easier and less messy looking to update the paper than scribble on the box.
    That does make a lot of sense... :) And might be quicker to read
    a sheet of paper along the side of the box rather having to move
    boxes around to read the tops of them or something... ;)

    Right: plus easier for me to write on pape rand then move it to the box
    than on the side of the box ==> sort of a mild acrobatic to get into the writing position! And with paper easy to update with a new sheet.
    (Though some have scratch-outs -- I'm not that picky!)

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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Fri Feb 28 16:47:30 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 23-Feb-2020 08:37 <=-

    Yes, I do believe you'd mentioned that before...
    Me? Repeat myself? Nahhh!! <g> ..OTOH that did remind me to write a
    reminder note: was told one of the area stations will require a rescan
    around March 17th. The station is affiliated with two local stations;
    not sure about them but will be on the lookout; rescan should catch
    but if too early ==> Channel 6 had done theirs at 11 a.m. while other
    local stations a little after midnight.
    Nothing really wrong with a little repetition... and reminders are
    always good... ;) You might even hear something closer to the rescan
    date about what time each will be happening....
    Yes: with me sometimes with the repeat I'll remember a detail I didn't catch before. As for the rescan, have a couple of people also looking
    for the date as they will have to rescan their TVs also.

    So someone's likely to catch it... ;)

    ...And if one doesn't know what they're
    doing better to leave alone and have a professional correct but
    one can still observe "this outlet works and these do not".
    And observation can give a pretty good idea where the issues are...
    whether or not one can do the fix... :)
    Right. And sort of laughing because of an incident here years ago:
    had the dining room/family walls redone. Paneling had been glued to
    the drywall plus some other issues so had the old drywall removed and
    new installed. We were at work; drywaller somehow discovers an outlet
    no longer works so figures he broke it so goes to the hardware store,
    buys and replaces the outlet -- still doesn't work. Tells us and
    apologizes where we get home. Ends up the problem is at a different
    outlet: "Outlet #4" doesn't work but the problem is the output
    connection at "Outlet #3" had come loose.
    #1 ==> #2 ==> #3x--> #4
    Outlet #3 worked fine but the wire to Outlet #4 had loosened so no
    connection, no power to #4.
    Yup... you've told that story before too, but it's quite apt... :)
    So you fixed the connection at #3 and everything worked again... :)
    Oh-oh! I'm on Summer Repeats like the TV networks?! As for the outlet repair, yes.

    Conversations do tend to be circular on occasion... ;)

    <solar cell to charge battery of bettery-powered TV>
    sunlight-through-the-glass-block-window-in-the-basement seems easiest:
    UV should pass through the glass blocks (though too thick?), being
    inside protects the solar cells, the location makes it easy for me to
    hook up the battery. Just need to test later.
    Good question on whether the glass-block windows might be too thick...
    definitely would need to test that out thoroughly.... but the other
    factors do sound promising... <G>
    Yes, potential for the UV -- OK: I wasn't sure on the excitor:
    figuring UV as IR didn't sound right. Quick scan of a couple of
    articles and they say photons; could still be a preference for the high end of the visible light spectrum. Will see what happens when lower
    the solar cell in the basement window to give it better light exposure
    and see what happens.

    It will be an interesting experiment, anyway... and possibly productive
    as well... ;)

    Just need to find the right box! <g> I do label, and right now
    instead of writing on the boxes I fold a sheet of paper in half and
    list the general contents on the paper which is hanging over the side
    of the box. Easier and less messy looking to update the paper than
    scribble on the box.
    That does make a lot of sense... :) And might be quicker to read
    a sheet of paper along the side of the box rather having to move
    boxes around to read the tops of them or something... ;)
    Right: plus easier for me to write on paper and then move it to the
    box than on the side of the box ==> sort of a mild acrobatic to get
    into the writing position! And with paper easy to update with a new sheet. (Though some have scratch-outs -- I'm not that picky!)

    Yup... when the scratchouts get too messy, just transfer the proper
    info onto a new sheet of paper, and things are pretty again... ;) And
    no contortions necessary (except for getting the sheet of paper from the box)... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Sat Feb 29 08:58:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    Yes, I do believe you'd mentioned that before...
    Me? Repeat myself? Nahhh!! <g> ..OTOH that did remind me to write a
    reminder note: was told one of the area stations will require a rescan
    around March 17th. The station is affiliated with two local stations;
    not sure about them but will be on the lookout; rescan should catch
    but if too early ==> Channel 6 had done theirs at 11 a.m. while other
    local stations a little after midnight.
    Nothing really wrong with a little repetition... and reminders are
    always good... ;) You might even hear something closer to the rescan
    date about what time each will be happening....
    Yes: with me sometimes with the repeat I'll remember a detail I didn't catch before. As for the rescan, have a couple of people also looking
    for the date as they will have to rescan their TVs also.
    So someone's likely to catch it... ;)

    And did: March 13th. <Looking at calendar> Well, if it doesn't go
    right we know what to blame! <gg>


    <solar cell to charge battery of bettery-powered TV>
    sunlight-through-the-glass-block-window-in-the-basement seems easiest:
    UV should pass through the glass blocks (though too thick?), being
    inside protects the solar cells, the location makes it easy for me to
    hook up the battery. Just need to test later.
    Good question on whether the glass-block windows might be too thick...
    definitely would need to test that out thoroughly.... but the other
    factors do sound promising... <G>
    Yes, potential for the UV -- OK: I wasn't sure on the excitor:
    figuring UV as IR didn't sound right. Quick scan of a couple of
    articles and they say photons; could still be a preference for the high end of the visible light spectrum. Will see what happens when lower
    the solar cell in the basement window to give it better light exposure
    and see what happens.
    It will be an interesting experiment, anyway... and possibly
    productive as well... ;)

    Yes: would be nice + handy if can place the solar unit in the basmenet
    window , but if not, just start looking for an outside location. LIS,
    the running of the wires may be a problem; may end up dropping that
    option and going with the plan-ahead charge from the wall outlet.


    Just need to find the right box! <g> I do label, and right now
    instead of writing on the boxes I fold a sheet of paper in half and
    list the general contents on the paper which is hanging over the side
    of the box. Easier and less messy looking to update the paper than
    scribble on the box.
    That does make a lot of sense... :) And might be quicker to read
    a sheet of paper along the side of the box rather having to move
    boxes around to read the tops of them or something... ;)
    Right: plus easier for me to write on paper and then move it to the
    box than on the side of the box ==> sort of a mild acrobatic to get
    into the writing position! And with paper easy to update with a new sheet. (Though some have scratch-outs -- I'm not that picky!)
    Yup... when the scratchouts get too messy, just transfer the
    proper info onto a new sheet of paper, and things are pretty
    again... ;) And no contortions necessary (except for getting the
    sheet of paper from the box)... :)

    <chuckle> Probably minimal as would tend to be working on that box and
    so on the floor or on a table. ...Now which box is the pen in??!!

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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Thu Mar 5 16:42:12 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 29-Feb-2020 08:58 <=-

    OTOH that did remind me to write a reminder note: was told one of the
    area stations will require a rescan around March 17th. The station
    is affiliated with two local stations; not sure about them but will
    be on the lookout; rescan should catch but if too early ==> Channel 6
    had done theirs at 11 a.m. while other local stations a little after
    midnight.
    and reminders are always good... ;) You might even hear something
    closer to the rescan date about what time each will be happening....
    Yes: with me sometimes with the repeat I'll remember a detail I didn't
    catch before. As for the rescan, have a couple of people also looking
    for the date as they will have to rescan their TVs also.
    So someone's likely to catch it... ;)
    And did: March 13th. <Looking at calendar> Well, if it doesn't go
    right we know what to blame! <gg>

    But Friday the 13th is a LUCKY day.... <G> At least my sister would say
    so, she turned 13 on a Friday the 13th... ;)

    <solar cell to charge battery of bettery-powered TV>
    sunlight-through-the-glass-block-window-in-the-basement seems easiest:
    UV should pass through the glass blocks (though too thick?), being
    inside protects the solar cells, the location makes it easy for me to
    hook up the battery. Just need to test later.
    Good question on whether the glass-block windows might be too thick...
    definitely would need to test that out thoroughly.... but the other
    factors do sound promising... <G>
    Yes, potential for the UV -- OK: I wasn't sure on the excitor:
    figuring UV as IR didn't sound right. Quick scan of a couple of
    articles and they say photons; could still be a preference for the high
    end of the visible light spectrum. Will see what happens when lower
    the solar cell in the basement window to give it better light exposure
    and see what happens.
    It will be an interesting experiment, anyway... and possibly
    productive as well... ;)
    Yes: would be nice + handy if can place the solar unit in the basement window, but if not, just start looking for an outside location. LIS,
    the running of the wires may be a problem; may end up dropping that
    option and going with the plan-ahead charge from the wall outlet.

    Eventually you'll get it checked out... and its good to have a backup
    plan as well... ;)

    Just need to find the right box! <g> I do label, and right now
    instead of writing on the boxes I fold a sheet of paper in half and
    list the general contents on the paper which is hanging over the side
    of the box. Easier and less messy looking to update the paper than
    scribble on the box.
    That does make a lot of sense... :) And might be quicker to read
    a sheet of paper along the side of the box rather having to move
    boxes around to read the tops of them or something... ;)
    Right: plus easier for me to write on paper and then move it to the
    box than on the side of the box ==> sort of a mild acrobatic to get
    into the writing position! And with paper easy to update with a new
    sheet. (Though some have scratch-outs -- I'm not that picky!)
    Yup... when the scratchouts get too messy, just transfer the proper
    info onto a new sheet of paper, and things are pretty again... ;) And
    no contortions necessary (except for getting the sheet of paper from
    the box)... :)
    <chuckle> Probably minimal as would tend to be working on that box
    and so on the floor or on a table. ...Now which box is the pen in??!!

    True... if you are adding/subtracting from that box, it would tend to be handy... ;) I'd've thought the pen would be somewhere on the table or
    floor next to you... but possibly under that pile of papers...... <G>

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Fri Mar 6 08:47:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    OTOH that did remind me to write a reminder note: was told one of the
    area stations will require a rescan around March 17th. The station
    is affiliated with two local stations; not sure about them but will
    be on the lookout; rescan should catch but if too early ==> Channel 6
    had done theirs at 11 a.m. while other local stations a little after
    midnight.
    and reminders are always good... ;) You might even hear something
    closer to the rescan date about what time each will be happening....
    Yes: with me sometimes with the repeat I'll remember a detail I didn't
    catch before. As for the rescan, have a couple of people also looking
    for the date as they will have to rescan their TVs also.
    So someone's likely to catch it... ;)
    And did: March 13th. <Looking at calendar> Well, if it doesn't go
    right we know what to blame! <gg>
    But Friday the 13th is a LUCKY day.... <G> At least my sister
    would say so, she turned 13 on a Friday the 13th... ;)

    And my parents were married on a Friday the 13th. ...My joke to people worried about Friday the 13th is "You know what's worse? Saturday the
    14th!!".


    <solar cell to charge battery of battery-powered TV>
    sunlight-through-the-glass-block-window-in-the-basement seems easiest:
    UV should pass through the glass blocks (though too thick?), being
    inside protects the solar cells, the location makes it easy for me to
    hook up the battery. Just need to test later.
    Good question on whether the glass-block windows might be too thick...
    definitely would need to test that out thoroughly.... but the other
    factors do sound promising... <G>
    Yes, potential for the UV -- OK: I wasn't sure on the excitor:
    figuring UV as IR didn't sound right. Quick scan of a couple of
    articles and they say photons; could still be a preference for the high
    end of the visible light spectrum. Will see what happens when lower
    the solar cell in the basement window to give it better light exposure
    and see what happens.
    It will be an interesting experiment, anyway... and possibly
    productive as well... ;)
    Yes: would be nice + handy if can place the solar unit in the basement window, but if not, just start looking for an outside location. LIS,
    the running of the wires may be a problem; may end up dropping that
    option and going with the plan-ahead charge from the wall outlet.
    Eventually you'll get it checked out... and its good to have a
    backup plan as well... ;)

    Backup plans are always good. Have read where "having a backup plan
    means a lack of commitment to the original plan", which on the surface
    I'd agree with, but things wil break, something unanticipated will
    occur, etc.


    Just need to find the right box! <g> I do label, and right now
    instead of writing on the boxes I fold a sheet of paper in half and
    list the general contents on the paper which is hanging over the side
    of the box. Easier and less messy looking to update the paper than
    scribble on the box.
    That does make a lot of sense... :) And might be quicker to read
    a sheet of paper along the side of the box rather having to move
    boxes around to read the tops of them or something... ;)
    Right: plus easier for me to write on paper and then move it to the
    box than on the side of the box ==> sort of a mild acrobatic to get
    into the writing position! And with paper easy to update with a new
    sheet. (Though some have scratch-outs -- I'm not that picky!)
    Yup... when the scratchouts get too messy, just transfer the proper
    info onto a new sheet of paper, and things are pretty again... ;) And
    no contortions necessary (except for getting the sheet of paper from
    the box)... :)
    <chuckle> Probably minimal as would tend to be working on that box
    and so on the floor or on a table. ...Now which box is the pen in??!!
    True... if you are adding/subtracting from that box, it would
    tend to be handy... ;) I'd've thought the pen would be somewhere
    on the table or floor next to you... but possibly under that pile
    of papers...... <G>

    I have a cartoon of a desk scene; at the far side is a person looking
    for a pen; at the near side is several pens hiding behind a coffee mug
    and a thing some other desk item. Caption is one pen saying to the
    other something about hiding from the human as he squeezes the
    lifeblood out of pens.

    My pens generally don't seem too fearful as I try to keep them all
    snuggled together in a container.

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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Thu Mar 12 01:37:02 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 06-Mar-2020 08:47 <=-

    and reminders are always good... ;) You might even hear something
    closer to the rescan date about what time each will be happening....
    Yes: with me sometimes with the repeat I'll remember a detail I didn't
    catch before. As for the rescan, have a couple of people also looking
    for the date as they will have to rescan their TVs also.
    So someone's likely to catch it... ;)
    And did: March 13th. <Looking at calendar> Well, if it doesn't go
    right we know what to blame! <gg>
    But Friday the 13th is a LUCKY day.... <G> At least my sister would
    say so, she turned 13 on a Friday the 13th... ;)
    And my parents were married on a Friday the 13th. ...My joke to
    people worried about Friday the 13th is "You know what's worse?
    Saturday the 14th!!".

    Or, when Friday the 13th comes on a Monday (Tues, Wed, Thurs, etc)... <G>

    <solar cell to charge battery of battery-powered TV>
    sunlight-through-the-glass-block-window-in-the-basement seems easiest:
    UV should pass through the glass blocks (though too thick?), being
    inside protects the solar cells, the location makes it easy for me to
    hook up the battery. Just need to test later.
    Good question on whether the glass-block windows might be too thick...
    definitely would need to test that out thoroughly.... but the other
    factors do sound promising... <G>
    Yes, potential for the UV -- OK: I wasn't sure on the excitor:
    figuring UV as IR didn't sound right. Quick scan of a couple of
    articles and they say photons; could still be a preference for the high
    end of the visible light spectrum. Will see what happens when lower
    the solar cell in the basement window to give it better light exposure
    and see what happens.
    It will be an interesting experiment, anyway... and possibly
    productive as well... ;)
    Yes: would be nice + handy if can place the solar unit in the basement
    window, but if not, just start looking for an outside location. LIS,
    the running of the wires may be a problem; may end up dropping that
    option and going with the plan-ahead charge from the wall outlet.
    Eventually you'll get it checked out... and its good to have a backup
    plan as well... ;)
    Backup plans are always good. Have read where "having a backup plan
    means a lack of commitment to the original plan", which on the surface
    I'd agree with, but things will break, something unanticipated will
    occur, etc.

    I think that lack of commitment idea is just a bit too strong... :)
    OTOH, planning tons of detailed contingency plans is definitely overkill
    in the other direction... ;) It doesn't hurt to have a clue what one
    might do, should the bridge need to be crossed later, but the detail
    certainly can wait until one is a lot closer to that potential bridge...
    A little planning for the future, in a few possible options, can be
    wise; planning in great detail for an unlikely future is a waste of time
    and energy.... :)

    Right: plus easier for me to write on paper and then move it to the
    box than on the side of the box ==> sort of a mild acrobatic to get
    into the writing position! And with paper easy to update with a new
    sheet. (Though some have scratch-outs -- I'm not that picky!)
    Yup... when the scratchouts get too messy, just transfer the proper
    info onto a new sheet of paper, and things are pretty again... ;) And
    no contortions necessary (except for getting the sheet of paper from
    the box)... :)
    <chuckle> Probably minimal as would tend to be working on that box
    and so on the floor or on a table. ...Now which box is the pen in??!!
    True... if you are adding/subtracting from that box, it would tend to
    be handy... ;) I'd've thought the pen would be somewhere on the table
    or floor next to you... but possibly under that pile of papers.... <G>
    I have a cartoon of a desk scene; at the far side is a person looking
    for a pen; at the near side is several pens hiding behind a coffee mug
    and a thing some other desk item. Caption is one pen saying to the
    other something about hiding from the human as he squeezes the
    lifeblood out of pens.

    Cute. ;)

    My pens generally don't seem too fearful as I try to keep them all snuggled together in a container.

    Much handier that way, too... ;)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Thu Mar 12 12:29:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    and reminders are always good... ;) You might even hear something
    closer to the rescan date about what time each will be happening....
    Yes: with me sometimes with the repeat I'll remember a detail I didn't
    catch before. As for the rescan, have a couple of people also looking
    for the date as they will have to rescan their TVs also.
    So someone's likely to catch it... ;)
    And did: March 13th. <Looking at calendar> Well, if it doesn't go
    right we know what to blame! <gg>
    But Friday the 13th is a LUCKY day.... <G> At least my sister would
    say so, she turned 13 on a Friday the 13th... ;)
    And my parents were married on a Friday the 13th. ...My joke to
    people worried about Friday the 13th is "You know what's worse?
    Saturday the 14th!!".
    Or, when Friday the 13th comes on a Monday (Tues, Wed, Thurs,
    etc)... <G>

    That would really screw things up!! As for hearing more about the
    rescan, as I write this it's the morning of the 12th, so the rescan is scheduled for tomorrow; haven't heard/seen anything additional. Guess if
    the station isn't 'on the air' tomorrow morning will be doing a rescan!

    And speaking of rescanning, there have been a few posts in the MythTV
    Forum about rescanning without going through the whole thing. There is,
    done by entering transport numbers (the channel frequencies) -- what I
    had tried was just the channels (entering "6" instead of 82-88 MHz).
    Even then there are some other tweaks needed -- easier to just sit back
    and let the machine do the rescan and put in all the numbers. Biggest
    problem was like I had here with repeater stations (locally WHBF has
    it's main channel on 4 with a translator [repeater to me] at 47).


    <solar cell to charge battery of battery-powered TV>
    <snip of ramblings and guesses>
    Backup plans are always good. Have read where "having a backup plan
    means a lack of commitment to the original plan", which on the surface
    I'd agree with, but things will break, something unanticipated will
    occur, etc.
    I think that lack of commitment idea is just a bit too strong...
    :) OTOH, planning tons of detailed contingency plans is
    definitely overkill in the other direction... ;) It doesn't hurt
    to have a clue what one might do, should the bridge need to be
    crossed later, but the detail certainly can wait until one is a
    lot closer to that potential bridge... A little planning for the
    future, in a few possible options, can be wise; planning in great
    detail for an unlikely future is a waste of time and energy.... :)

    I am fully committed to all changes! ...So far found what doesn't work easily: sticking the solar cell in the window; doesn't work because of
    the UV block stuff in the glass. Next step will be testing the one
    window that doesn't have the UV block and gets sunshine most of the
    time. If that doesn't work will check about outside; running the wires
    to inside is the big problem with that option. May end up with charging
    off the grid.



    My pens generally don't seem too fearful as I try to keep them all snuggled together in a container.
    Much handier that way, too... ;)

    They seem to like it that way and for me resonably organized.


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    From hard to easy, or vice versa?

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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Mon Mar 23 20:44:04 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 12-Mar-2020 12:29 <=-

    And did: March 13th. <Looking at calendar> Well, if it doesn't go
    right we know what to blame! <gg>
    But Friday the 13th is a LUCKY day.... <G> At least my sister would
    say so, she turned 13 on a Friday the 13th... ;)
    And my parents were married on a Friday the 13th. ...My joke to
    people worried about Friday the 13th is "You know what's worse?
    Saturday the 14th!!".
    Or, when Friday the 13th comes on a Monday (Tues, Wed, Thurs,
    etc)... <G>
    That would really screw things up!!

    Ah, but that happens more months than not... <G> At least that's the
    way one of the regular announcers on my station usually states it
    whenever the 13th is on some day other than a Friday.... :)

    As for hearing more about the rescan, as I write this it's the morning
    of the 12th, so the rescan is scheduled for tomorrow; haven't heard/
    seen anything additional. Guess if the station isn't 'on the air' tomorrow morning will be doing a rescan!

    And how DID that go...? ;)

    And speaking of rescanning, there have been a few posts in the MythTV Forum about rescanning without going through the whole thing. There
    is, done by entering transport numbers (the channel frequencies) --
    what I had tried was just the channels (entering "6" instead of 82-88 MHz). Even then there are some other tweaks needed -- easier to just
    sit back and let the machine do the rescan and put in all the numbers.

    How long does a full rescan take....? I can see letting it just do its
    thing on auto.... ;)

    Biggest problem was like I had here with repeater stations (locally
    WHBF has its main channel on 4 with a translator [repeater to me] at
    47).

    So you'd need to know the precise details for your side of things...
    (and yes, I know what a translator/repeater is... North Country Public
    Radio uses them, too...)

    <solar cell to charge battery of battery-powered TV>
    <snip of ramblings and guesses>
    Backup plans are always good. Have read where "having a backup plan
    means a lack of commitment to the original plan", which on the surface
    I'd agree with, but things will break, something unanticipated will
    occur, etc.
    I think that lack of commitment idea is just a bit too strong... :)
    OTOH, planning tons of detailed contingency plans is definitely
    overkill in the other direction... ;) It doesn't hurt to have a clue
    what one might do, should the bridge need to be crossed later, but the
    detail certainly can wait until one is a lot closer to that potential
    bridge... A little planning for the future, in a few possible options,
    can be wise; planning in great detail for an unlikely future is a
    waste of time and energy.... :)
    I am fully committed to all changes! ...So far found what doesn't
    work easily: sticking the solar cell in the window; doesn't work
    because of the UV block stuff in the glass. Next step will be testing
    the one window that doesn't have the UV block and gets sunshine most of the time. If that doesn't work will check about outside; running the wires to inside is the big problem with that option. May end up with charging off the grid.

    You mean, charging things just from a plug-in inside...? And just
    keeping in readiness to put into the system as needed.....?

    My pens generally don't seem too fearful as I try to keep them all
    snuggled together in a container.
    Much handier that way, too... ;)
    They seem to like it that way and for me reasonably organized.

    That works... ;)

    ... The solution to a problem changes the problem.
    From hard to easy, or vice versa?

    Yes. <G>

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Tue Mar 24 08:57:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    And did: March 13th. <Looking at calendar> Well, if it doesn't go
    right we know what to blame! <gg>
    But Friday the 13th is a LUCKY day.... <G> At least my sister would
    say so, she turned 13 on a Friday the 13th... ;)
    And my parents were married on a Friday the 13th. ...My joke to
    people worried about Friday the 13th is "You know what's worse?
    Saturday the 14th!!".
    Or, when Friday the 13th comes on a Monday (Tues, Wed, Thurs,
    etc)... <G>
    That would really screw things up!!
    Ah, but that happens more months than not... <G> At least that's
    the way one of the regular announcers on my station usually
    states it whenever the 13th is on some day other than a
    Friday.... :)

    <chuckle> I tend to overlook suspicions but also am slightly cautious
    because _others_ find the situation bothersome and so tend to act out of
    the norm. OTOH walking under a ladder does enhance the possibility of
    getting paint or hammer dropped upon, a black cat crossing ones path
    coul increase the possibility of tripping over in the dark (though a
    white cat in blackened room has the same)....


    As for hearing more about the rescan, as I write this it's the morning
    of the 12th, so the rescan is scheduled for tomorrow; haven't heard/
    seen anything additional. Guess if the station isn't 'on the air' tomorrow morning will be doing a rescan!
    And how DID that go...? ;)

    Fine! :) I'm getting to be an expert! <g> Ended up the switch was as
    noon; I was thinking midnight so the station was on in the morning with
    the old configuration; checked in the afternoon, not there, so scanned.
    Did find on pleasant surprise: the station either moved the tower and/or increase transmitting power as it now is received with a greatly
    increased signal. Before would drop out on most of the TVs and
    occasional problems when using the computer system to record.

    (Two viewing systems: one is off-the-air TV, so "watch live TV". The
    other is the recording system using the computer, and that system uses
    the TV as a monitor. I have been told the wrong 'TV'.)


    And speaking of rescanning, there have been a few posts in the MythTV Forum about rescanning without going through the whole thing. There
    is, done by entering transport numbers (the channel frequencies) --
    what I had tried was just the channels (entering "6" instead of 82-88 MHz). Even then there are some other tweaks needed -- easier to just
    sit back and let the machine do the rescan and put in all the numbers.
    How long does a full rescan take....? I can see letting it just
    do its thing on auto.... ;)

    On the computer the whole rescan process probably takes 30-40 minutes.
    And that's for the four tuners, so not an all-day job. It is easier to
    let it 'do it's thing', though manual intervention is still needed as
    for some reason the software remembers the old information: old/now-dead "Channel 8" is remembered as well as the new "Channel 8". It seems to
    have been done on purpose because of various repeaters (translators).


    Biggest problem was like I had here with repeater stations (locally
    WHBF has its main channel on 4 with a translator [repeater to me] at
    47).
    So you'd need to know the precise details for your side of
    things... (and yes, I know what a translator/repeater is... North
    Country Public Radio uses them, too...)

    It helps to be aware! With the TVs (not talking the computer system on
    this one) one TV would display 4.1 and 47.1, another had two 4.1's (so
    when doing a Channel Up scan on the remote would be 4.1, 4.1, 4.2,
    4.2,), while another combined: said 4.1 but might be Ch 47's, 4.2 might be
    from Ch 4. (The good news is seems they got rid of the repeater.)



    <solar cell to charge battery of battery-powered TV>
    <snip of ramblings and guesses>
    Backup plans are always good. Have read where "having a backup plan
    means a lack of commitment to the original plan", which on the surface
    I'd agree with, but things will break, something unanticipated will
    occur, etc.
    I think that lack of commitment idea is just a bit too strong... :)
    OTOH, planning tons of detailed contingency plans is definitely
    overkill in the other direction... ;) It doesn't hurt to have a clue
    what one might do, should the bridge need to be crossed later, but the
    detail certainly can wait until one is a lot closer to that potential
    bridge... A little planning for the future, in a few possible options,
    can be wise; planning in great detail for an unlikely future is a
    waste of time and energy.... :)
    I am fully committed to all changes! ...So far found what doesn't
    work easily: sticking the solar cell in the window; doesn't work
    because of the UV block stuff in the glass. Next step will be testing
    the one window that doesn't have the UV block and gets sunshine most of the time. If that doesn't work will check about outside; running the wires to inside is the big problem with that option. May end up with charging off the grid.
    You mean, charging things just from a plug-in inside...? And
    just keeping in readiness to put into the system as needed.....?

    Yes, plug-in charger. Would probably try to unplug just to save a few
    cents of eletricity -- that was one of the advantages of the solar
    charging option was didn't cost anything.



    ... The solution to a problem changes the problem.
    From hard to easy, or vice versa?
    Yes. <G>

    I understand!!


    ... STATE-OF-THE-ART: Soon-to-be-obsolete.

    All too true!

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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Wed Apr 1 01:26:26 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 24-Mar-2020 08:57 <=-

    But Friday the 13th is a LUCKY day.... <G> At least my sister would
    say so, she turned 13 on a Friday the 13th... ;)
    And my parents were married on a Friday the 13th. ...My joke to
    people worried about Friday the 13th is "You know what's worse?
    Saturday the 14th!!".
    Or, when Friday the 13th comes on a Monday (Tues, Wed, Thurs,
    etc)... <G>
    That would really screw things up!!
    Ah, but that happens more months than not... <G> At least that's the
    way one of the regular announcers on my station usually states it
    whenever the 13th is on some day other than a Friday.... :)
    <chuckle> I tend to overlook suspicions but also am slightly cautious because _others_ find the situation bothersome and so tend to act out
    of the norm.

    You mean superstitions, not suspicions...? ;) I suppose one might have
    to pay some attention to others for some superstitious behaviour... ;)

    OTOH walking under a ladder does enhance the possibility
    of getting paint or hammer dropped upon, a black cat crossing ones path could increase the possibility of tripping over in the dark (though a white cat in blackened room has the same)....

    Some things are more things to be careful about for good reason, than
    truly superstitions... ;) And cats seem to think that human eyesight in
    the dark is as good as theirs... so they stay in the shadow and expect
    you to not step on them all the same... <G>

    As for hearing more about the rescan, as I write this it's the morning
    of the 12th, so the rescan is scheduled for tomorrow; haven't heard/
    seen anything additional. Guess if the station isn't 'on the air'
    tomorrow morning will be doing a rescan!
    And how DID that go...? ;)
    Fine! :) I'm getting to be an expert! <g> Ended up the switch was as noon; I was thinking midnight so the station was on in the morning
    with the old configuration; checked in the afternoon, not there, so scanned. Did find one pleasant surprise: the station either moved the tower and/or increased transmitting power as it now is received with a greatly increased signal. Before would drop out on most of the TVs and occasional problems when using the computer system to record.
    (Two viewing systems: one is off-the-air TV, so "watch live TV". The other is the recording system using the computer, and that system uses
    the TV as a monitor. I have been told the wrong 'TV'.)

    Now that is a pleasant surprise... and good that the rescan went so
    easily this time... :)

    And speaking of rescanning, there have been a few posts in the MythTV
    Forum about rescanning without going through the whole thing. There
    is, done by entering transport numbers (the channel frequencies) --
    what I had tried was just the channels (entering "6" instead of 82-88
    MHz). Even then there are some other tweaks needed -- easier to just
    sit back and let the machine do the rescan and put in all the numbers.
    How long does a full rescan take....? I can see letting it just
    do its thing on auto.... ;)
    On the computer the whole rescan process probably takes 30-40 minutes.
    And that's for the four tuners, so not an all-day job. It is easier
    to let it 'do it's thing', though manual intervention is still needed
    as for some reason the software remembers the old information: old/now-dead "Channel 8" is remembered as well as the new "Channel 8".
    It seems to have been done on purpose because of various repeaters (translators).

    That's not too long at all.... So, you have to babysit it in case it
    gets confused, then....?

    Biggest problem was like I had here with repeater stations (locally
    WHBF has its main channel on 4 with a translator [repeater to me] at
    47).
    So you'd need to know the precise details for your side of things...
    (and yes, I know what a translator/repeater is... North Country
    Public Radio uses them, too...)
    It helps to be aware! With the TVs (not talking the computer system
    on this one) one TV would display 4.1 and 47.1, another had two 4.1's
    (so when doing a Channel Up scan on the remote would be 4.1, 4.1, 4.2, 4.2,), while another combined: said 4.1 but might be Ch 47's, 4.2
    might be from Ch 4. (The good news is seems they got rid of the repeater.)

    That is good news.... ;) That should reduce some of the confusion... :)

    <solar cell to charge battery of battery-powered TV>
    <snip of ramblings and guesses>
    ...So far found what doesn't work easily: sticking the solar cell in
    the window; doesn't work because of the UV block stuff in the glass.
    Next step will be testing the one window that doesn't have the UV
    block and gets sunshine most of the time. If that doesn't work will
    check about outside; running the wires to inside is the big problem
    with that option. May end up with charging off the grid.
    You mean, charging things just from a plug-in inside...? And
    just keeping in readiness to put into the system as needed.....?
    Yes, plug-in charger. Would probably try to unplug just to save a few cents of eletricity -- that was one of the advantages of the solar charging option was didn't cost anything.

    True.... and you still might find a way to make that work with solar...
    but probably wouldn't really cost all that much to just plug it in,
    either... ;)

    ... The solution to a problem changes the problem.
    From hard to easy, or vice versa?
    Yes. <G>
    I understand!!

    Good... :)

    ... STATE-OF-THE-ART: Soon-to-be-obsolete.
    All too true!

    Almost not really funny.... ;0

    ... æsecond - Time takes your state-of-the-art computer to become obsolete.

    Yup. ;)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Wed Apr 1 08:26:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!


    But Friday the 13th is a LUCKY day.... <G> At least my sister would
    say so, she turned 13 on a Friday the 13th... ;)
    And my parents were married on a Friday the 13th. ...My joke to
    people worried about Friday the 13th is "You know what's worse?
    Saturday the 14th!!".
    Or, when Friday the 13th comes on a Monday (Tues, Wed, Thurs,
    etc)... <G>
    That would really screw things up!!
    Ah, but that happens more months than not... <G> At least that's the
    way one of the regular announcers on my station usually states it
    whenever the 13th is on some day other than a Friday.... :)
    <chuckle> I tend to overlook suspicions but also am slightly cautious because _others_ find the situation bothersome and so tend to act out
    of the norm.
    You mean superstitions, not suspicions...? ;) I suppose one
    might have to pay some attention to others for some superstitious behaviour... ;)

    Yes -- not only do I have dyslexic typing but also that space-saving abbreviated typing! As far as superstitious stuff, some of my response
    is just a reaction to others' erratic reactions: they'll focus on the
    black cat and so run in to me.


    OTOH walking under a ladder does enhance the possibility
    of getting paint or hammer dropped upon, a black cat crossing ones path could increase the possibility of tripping over in the dark (though a white cat in blackened room has the same)....
    Some things are more things to be careful about for good reason,
    than truly superstitions... ;) And cats seem to think that human
    eyesight in the dark is as good as theirs... so they stay in the
    shadow and expect you to not step on them all the same... <G>

    And us humans think the cats think.... <g> The cats probably stay
    hidden to protect themselves; we're the ones stupid enough to go
    wandering in the dark when we can't see!



    As for hearing more about the rescan, as I write this it's the morning
    of the 12th, so the rescan is scheduled for tomorrow; haven't heard/
    seen anything additional. Guess if the station isn't 'on the air'
    tomorrow morning will be doing a rescan!
    And how DID that go...? ;)
    Fine! :) I'm getting to be an expert! <g> Ended up the switch was as noon; I was thinking midnight so the station was on in the morning
    with the old configuration; checked in the afternoon, not there, so scanned. Did find one pleasant surprise: the station either moved the tower and/or increased transmitting power as it now is received with a greatly increased signal. Before would drop out on most of the TVs and occasional problems when using the computer system to record.
    (Two viewing systems: one is off-the-air TV, so "watch live TV". The other is the recording system using the computer, and that system uses
    the TV as a monitor. I have been told the wrong 'TV'.)
    Now that is a pleasant surprise... and good that the rescan went
    so easily this time... :)

    Yes, nice for the extra signal strength. And probably helps to get in practice with channel scanning so know what to do, expect, etc.


    And speaking of rescanning, there have been a few posts in the MythTV
    Forum about rescanning without going through the whole thing. There
    is, done by entering transport numbers (the channel frequencies) --
    what I had tried was just the channels (entering "6" instead of 82-88
    MHz). Even then there are some other tweaks needed -- easier to just
    sit back and let the machine do the rescan and put in all the numbers.
    How long does a full rescan take....? I can see letting it just
    do its thing on auto.... ;)
    On the computer the whole rescan process probably takes 30-40 minutes.
    And that's for the four tuners, so not an all-day job. It is easier
    to let it 'do it's thing', though manual intervention is still needed
    as for some reason the software remembers the old information: old/now-dead "Channel 8" is remembered as well as the new "Channel 8".
    It seems to have been done on purpose because of various repeaters (translators).
    That's not too long at all.... So, you have to babysit it in
    case it gets confused, then....?

    Right: the length of time isn't bad, just the system is off-line while scanning/updating so need to be sure not recording/running into a
    recording period, and no one else can watch a recorded show. (Using the
    TV to watch live is fine -- two separate systems.)

    And yes, I do 'babysit' while the system scans; just easier for me to
    sit here and play a few games of Solitaire or look through e-mail. Just another reason why I talked myself into two monitors.


    Biggest problem was like I had here with repeater stations (locally
    WHBF has its main channel on 4 with a translator [repeater to me] at
    47).
    So you'd need to know the precise details for your side of things...
    (and yes, I know what a translator/repeater is... North Country
    Public Radio uses them, too...)
    It helps to be aware! With the TVs (not talking the computer system
    on this one) one TV would display 4.1 and 47.1, another had two 4.1's
    (so when doing a Channel Up scan on the remote would be 4.1, 4.1, 4.2, 4.2,), while another combined: said 4.1 but might be Ch 47's, 4.2
    might be from Ch 4. (The good news is seems they got rid of the repeater.)
    That is good news.... ;) That should reduce some of the
    confusion... :)

    Yes. Was relatively easy to set to ignore the repeater on the Backend
    (the computer), not at all so for the TVs.


    <solar cell to charge battery of battery-powered TV>
    <snip of ramblings and guesses>
    ...So far found what doesn't work easily: sticking the solar cell in
    the window; doesn't work because of the UV block stuff in the glass.
    Next step will be testing the one window that doesn't have the UV
    block and gets sunshine most of the time. If that doesn't work will
    check about outside; running the wires to inside is the big problem
    with that option. May end up with charging off the grid.
    You mean, charging things just from a plug-in inside...? And
    just keeping in readiness to put into the system as needed.....?
    Yes, plug-in charger. Would probably try to unplug just to save a few cents of electricity -- that was one of the advantages of the solar charging option was didn't cost anything.
    True.... and you still might find a way to make that work with
    solar... but probably wouldn't really cost all that much to just
    plug it in, either... ;)

    Right: at this point it's not going to work the way I would like it the
    easy way. Do have to test in the basement with the window with the
    glass blocks still: cleaning up, overcast, other things to do, But
    Firsts.... As you said, may be easier just to plug in to maintain the
    charge.



    ... STATE-OF-THE-ART: Soon-to-be-obsolete.
    All too true!
    Almost not really funny.... ;0

    Uh-huh! My mananger when I was working at the store's computer
    department said the computers the manufacturer was assembling to ship
    off to us were already out-of-date.


    ... æsecond - Time takes your state-of-the-art computer to become obsolete.
    Yup. ;)

    See above!


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    ¯ ®


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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Thu Apr 9 19:23:50 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 01-Apr-2020 08:26 <=-

    Or, when Friday the 13th comes on a Monday (Tues, Wed, Thurs, etc)...
    That would really screw things up!!
    Ah, but that happens more months than not... <G> At least that's the
    way one of the regular announcers on my station usually states it
    whenever the 13th is on some day other than a Friday.... :)
    <chuckle> I tend to overlook suspicions but also am slightly cautious
    because _others_ find the situation bothersome and so tend to act out
    of the norm.
    You mean superstitions, not suspicions...? ;) I suppose one might have
    to pay some attention to others for some superstitious behaviour... ;)
    Yes -- not only do I have dyslexic typing but also that space-saving abbreviated typing! As far as superstitious stuff, some of my
    response is just a reaction to others' erratic reactions: they'll focus
    on the black cat and so run into me.

    That could be an issue.... ;)

    OTOH walking under a ladder does enhance the possibility
    of getting paint or hammer dropped upon, a black cat crossing ones path
    could increase the possibility of tripping over in the dark (though a
    white cat in blackened room has the same)....
    Some things are more things to be careful about for good reason, than
    truly superstitions... ;) And cats seem to think that human eyesight
    in the dark is as good as theirs... so they stay in the shadow and
    expect you to not step on them all the same... <G>
    And us humans think the cats think.... <g> The cats probably stay
    hidden to protect themselves; we're the ones stupid enough to go
    wandering in the dark when we can't see!

    Actually, our cats are sitting in shadows right in the way of where we
    need to walk... either they move before we actually step on them, or
    there's a surprised squawk.... we try not to step too hard just in
    case.... <G>

    scanned. Did find one pleasant surprise: the station either moved the
    tower and/or increased transmitting power as it now is received with a
    greatly increased signal. Before would drop out on most of the TVs and
    occasional problems when using the computer system to record.
    (Two viewing systems: one is off-the-air TV, so "watch live TV". The
    other is the recording system using the computer, and that system uses
    the TV as a monitor. I have been told the wrong 'TV'.)
    Now that is a pleasant surprise... and good that the rescan went so
    easily this time... :)
    Yes, nice for the extra signal strength. And probably helps to get in practice with channel scanning so know what to do, expect, etc.

    Indeed. :)

    How long does a full rescan take....? I can see letting it just do
    its thing on auto.... ;)
    On the computer the whole rescan process probably takes 30-40 minutes.
    And that's for the four tuners, so not an all-day job. It is easier
    to let it 'do it's thing', though manual intervention is still needed
    as for some reason the software remembers the old information:
    old/now-dead "Channel 8" is remembered as well as the new "Channel 8".
    It seems to have been done on purpose because of various repeaters
    (translators).
    That's not too long at all.... So, you have to babysit it in case it
    gets confused, then....?
    Right: the length of time isn't bad, just the system is off-line while scanning/updating so need to be sure not recording/running into a recording period, and no one else can watch a recorded show. (Using
    the TV to watch live is fine -- two separate systems.)

    So ahead of time, you announce that the recording system is going
    offline for the scanning, and for everyone to wait until the all-clear
    sounds at the end.... ;)

    And yes, I do 'babysit' while the system scans; just easier for me to
    sit here and play a few games of Solitaire or look through e-mail.
    Just another reason why I talked myself into two monitors.

    Safer that way... and with the extra monitor you can amuse yourself
    while you wait.... ;)

    With the TVs (not talking the computer system on this one) one TV
    would display 4.1 and 47.1, another had two 4.1's (so when doing a
    Channel Up scan on the remote would be 4.1, 4.1, 4.2, 4.2,), while
    another combined: said 4.1 but might be Ch 47's, 4.2 might be from
    Ch 4. (The good news is seems they got rid of the repeater.)
    That is good news.... ;) That should reduce some of the
    confusion... :)
    Yes. Was relatively easy to set to ignore the repeater on the Backend (the computer), not at all so for the TVs.

    But by getting rid of the repeaters, you also get rid of some of that
    overlap you were seeing on the TVs.... :)

    <solar cell to charge battery of battery-powered TV>
    <snip of ramblings and guesses>
    ...So far found what doesn't work easily: sticking the solar cell in
    the window; doesn't work because of the UV block stuff in the glass.
    Next step will be testing the one window that doesn't have the UV
    block and gets sunshine most of the time. If that doesn't work will
    check about outside; running the wires to inside is the big problem
    with that option. May end up with charging off the grid.
    You mean, charging things just from a plug-in inside...? And
    just keeping in readiness to put into the system as needed.....?
    Yes, plug-in charger. Would probably try to unplug just to save a few
    cents of electricity -- that was one of the advantages of the solar
    charging option was didn't cost anything.
    True.... and you still might find a way to make that work with solar...
    but probably wouldn't really cost all that much to just plug it in,
    either... ;)
    Right: at this point it's not going to work the way I would like it
    the easy way. Do have to test in the basement with the window with the glass blocks still: cleaning up, overcast, other things to do, But Firsts.... As you said, may be easier just to plug in to maintain the charge.

    Eventually you'll probably check it out further.... :)

    ... STATE-OF-THE-ART: Soon-to-be-obsolete.
    All too true!
    Almost not really funny.... ;0
    Uh-huh! My manager when I was working at the store's computer
    department said the computers the manufacturer was assembling to ship
    off to us were already out-of-date.
    ... æsecond - Time takes your state-of-the-art computer to become
    obsolete.
    Yup. ;)
    See above!

    Right... the manager had it right... <G>

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Fri Apr 10 07:19:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    Cold out there this morning! 29ø -- a few days ago it was in the low
    80's.


    <superstitions>
    OTOH walking under a ladder does enhance the possibility
    of getting paint or hammer dropped upon, a black cat crossing ones path
    could increase the possibility of tripping over in the dark (though a
    white cat in blackened room has the same)....
    Some things are more things to be careful about for good reason, than
    truly superstitions... ;) And cats seem to think that human eyesight
    in the dark is as good as theirs... so they stay in the shadow and
    expect you to not step on them all the same... <G>
    And us humans think the cats think.... <g> The cats probably stay
    hidden to protect themselves; we're the ones stupid enough to go
    wandering in the dark when we can't see!
    Actually, our cats are sitting in shadows right in the way of
    where we need to walk... either they move before we actually step
    on them, or there's a surprised squawk.... we try not to step too
    hard just in case.... <G>

    <chuckle> And they're thinking "how could you possibly not seen me?!".



    How long does a full rescan take....? I can see letting it just do
    its thing on auto.... ;)
    On the computer the whole rescan process probably takes 30-40 minutes.
    And that's for the four tuners, so not an all-day job. It is easier
    to let it 'do it's thing', though manual intervention is still needed
    as for some reason the software remembers the old information:
    old/now-dead "Channel 8" is remembered as well as the new "Channel 8".
    It seems to have been done on purpose because of various repeaters
    (translators).
    That's not too long at all.... So, you have to babysit it in case it
    gets confused, then....?
    Right: the length of time isn't bad, just the system is off-line while scanning/updating so need to be sure not recording/running into a recording period, and no one else can watch a recorded show. (Using
    the TV to watch live is fine -- two separate systems.)
    So ahead of time, you announce that the recording system is going
    offline for the scanning, and for everyone to wait until the
    all-clear sounds at the end.... ;)

    Pretty much. On the remote/viewing side of things would see a 'cannot
    connect to Backend' error which is then followed by me being told
    something is wrong with the system! So yes, announcing ahead of time
    and when finished is better. <g>



    And yes, I do 'babysit' while the system scans; just easier for me to
    sit here and play a few games of Solitaire or look through e-mail.
    Just another reason why I talked myself into two monitors.
    Safer that way... and with the extra monitor you can amuse
    yourself while you wait.... ;)

    Right: though I do have several bars to look at if don't want to 'play'
    onthe other computer: progress bar, signal strength when it locks on a station, ... hmm: another few things to look at but apparently not all
    that exciting!


    With the TVs (not talking the computer system on this one) one TV
    would display 4.1 and 47.1, another had two 4.1's (so when doing a
    Channel Up scan on the remote would be 4.1, 4.1, 4.2, 4.2,), while
    another combined: said 4.1 but might be Ch 47's, 4.2 might be from
    Ch 4. (The good news is seems they got rid of the repeater.)
    That is good news.... ;) That should reduce some of the
    confusion... :)
    Yes. Was relatively easy to set to ignore the repeater on the Backend (the computer), not at all so for the TVs.
    But by getting rid of the repeaters, you also get rid of some of
    that overlap you were seeing on the TVs.... :)

    True. Didn't really mind the duplication of the repeater but when it
    was overriding and the TV 'chose' the weaker repeater over the stronger primary station was shall we say alloying. It seemed like the TV would
    accept the last station scanned, so 47 (repeater, weaker) would be
    selected over 4 (primary, stronger), though not always (47.1, 4.2, for example). So good something else was changed.


    <solar cell to charge battery of battery-powered TV>
    <snip of ramblings and guesses>
    ...So far found what doesn't work easily: sticking the solar cell in
    the window; doesn't work because of the UV block stuff in the glass.
    Next step will be testing the one window that doesn't have the UV
    block and gets sunshine most of the time. If that doesn't work will
    check about outside; running the wires to inside is the big problem
    with that option. May end up with charging off the grid.
    You mean, charging things just from a plug-in inside...? And
    just keeping in readiness to put into the system as needed.....?
    Yes, plug-in charger. Would probably try to unplug just to save a few
    cents of electricity -- that was one of the advantages of the solar
    charging option was didn't cost anything.
    True.... and you still might find a way to make that work with solar...
    but probably wouldn't really cost all that much to just plug it in,
    either... ;)
    Right: at this point it's not going to work the way I would like it
    the easy way. Do have to test in the basement with the window with the glass blocks still: cleaning up, overcast, other things to do, But Firsts.... As you said, may be easier just to plug in to maintain the charge.
    Eventually you'll probably check it out further.... :)

    Yes, and maybe even get a few other half-started projects completed too!


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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Sun Apr 19 20:36:56 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 10-Apr-2020 07:19 <=-

    Cold out there this morning! 29ø -- a few days ago it was in the low 80's.

    We had that swing in temps, too... not quite so bad, as we were only
    almost to 70 and then went to the low 30s... ;)

    <superstitions>
    OTOH walking under a ladder does enhance the possibility
    of getting paint or hammer dropped upon, a black cat crossing ones path
    could increase the possibility of tripping over in the dark (though a
    white cat in blackened room has the same)....
    Some things are more things to be careful about for good reason, than
    truly superstitions... ;) And cats seem to think that human eyesight
    in the dark is as good as theirs... so they stay in the shadow and
    expect you to not step on them all the same... <G>
    And us humans think the cats think.... <g> The cats probably stay
    hidden to protect themselves; we're the ones stupid enough to go
    wandering in the dark when we can't see!
    Actually, our cats are sitting in shadows right in the way of where
    we need to walk... either they move before we actually step on them,
    or there's a surprised squawk.... we try not to step too hard just in
    case.... <G>
    <chuckle> And they're thinking "how could you possibly not have seen me?!".

    Exactly.... ;)

    That's not too long at all.... So, you have to babysit it in case it
    gets confused, then....?
    Right: the length of time isn't bad, just the system is off-line while
    scanning/updating so need to be sure not recording/running into a
    recording period, and no one else can watch a recorded show. (Using
    the TV to watch live is fine -- two separate systems.)
    So ahead of time, you announce that the recording system is going
    offline for the scanning, and for everyone to wait until the all-clear
    sounds at the end.... ;)
    Pretty much. On the remote/viewing side of things would see a 'cannot connect to Backend' error which is then followed by me being told something is wrong with the system! So yes, announcing ahead of time
    and when finished is better. <g>

    Less bother for you... ;)

    And yes, I do 'babysit' while the system scans; just easier for me to
    sit here and play a few games of Solitaire or look through e-mail.
    Just another reason why I talked myself into two monitors.
    Safer that way... and with the extra monitor you can amuse yourself
    while you wait.... ;)
    Right: though I do have several bars to look at if don't want to
    'play' on the other computer: progress bar, signal strength when it
    locks on a station, ... hmm: another few things to look at but
    apparently not all that exciting!

    The sort of thing you can do with one eye while playing solitare... ;)

    With the TVs (not talking the computer system on this one) one TV
    would display 4.1 and 47.1, another had two 4.1's (so when doing a
    Channel Up scan on the remote would be 4.1, 4.1, 4.2, 4.2,), while
    another combined: said 4.1 but might be Ch 47's, 4.2 might be from
    Ch 4. (The good news is seems they got rid of the repeater.)
    That is good news.... ;) That should reduce some of the
    confusion... :)
    Yes. Was relatively easy to set to ignore the repeater on the Backend
    (the computer), not at all so for the TVs.
    But by getting rid of the repeaters, you also get rid of some of that
    overlap you were seeing on the TVs.... :)
    True. Didn't really mind the duplication of the repeater but when it
    was overriding and the TV 'chose' the weaker repeater over the
    stronger primary station was shall we say alloying.

    (was that meant to be annoying....? [g])

    It seemed like the TV would accept the last station scanned, so 47 (repeater, weaker) would be selected over 4 (primary, stronger),
    though not always (47.1, 4.2, for example). So good something else
    was changed.

    True, it would have been less annoying if there seemed to be some
    legitmate logic to it... <G>

    <solar cell to charge battery of battery-powered TV>
    ...So far found what doesn't work easily: sticking the solar cell in
    the window; doesn't work because of the UV block stuff in the glass.
    Next step will be testing the one window that doesn't have the UV
    block and gets sunshine most of the time. If that doesn't work will
    check about outside; running the wires to inside is the big problem
    with that option. May end up with charging off the grid.
    You mean, charging things just from a plug-in inside...? And
    just keeping in readiness to put into the system as needed.....?
    Yes, plug-in charger. Would probably try to unplug just to save a few
    cents of electricity -- that was one of the advantages of the solar
    charging option was didn't cost anything.
    True.... and you still might find a way to make that work with solar...
    but probably wouldn't really cost all that much to just plug it in,
    either... ;)
    Right: at this point it's not going to work the way I would like it
    the easy way. Do have to test in the basement with the window with the
    glass blocks still: cleaning up, overcast, other things to do, But
    Firsts.... As you said, may be easier just to plug in to maintain the
    charge.
    Eventually you'll probably check it out further.... :)
    Yes, and maybe even get a few other half-started projects completed
    too!

    Especially if you are stuck home more at the moment (as long as you have
    all the parts at hand there).... ;)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Mon Apr 20 10:35:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!


    Cold out there this morning! 29ø -- a few days ago it was in the low 80's.
    We had that swing in temps, too... not quite so bad, as we were
    only almost to 70 and then went to the low 30s... ;)

    Was at 31ø when I woke up to what sounded like something sliding off the
    roof -- must have been the trash pickup as they start at 4 a.m. now due
    to the COVID-19. Used to start collections at 7 a.m. Not sure why they
    start three hours earlier now but.... Supposed to get into the low
    60's this afternoon but also up to 40 MPH winds this afternoon and rain/thunderstorms around 9 or 10 tonight.



    That's not too long at all.... So, you have to babysit it in case it
    gets confused, then....?
    Right: the length of time isn't bad, just the system is off-line while
    scanning/updating so need to be sure not recording/running into a
    recording period, and no one else can watch a recorded show. (Using
    the TV to watch live is fine -- two separate systems.)
    So ahead of time, you announce that the recording system is going
    offline for the scanning, and for everyone to wait until the all-clear
    sounds at the end.... ;)
    Pretty much. On the remote/viewing side of things would see a 'cannot connect to Backend' error which is then followed by me being told something is wrong with the system! So yes, announcing ahead of time
    and when finished is better. <g>
    Less bother for you... ;)

    Yes. And I do want to be told if there is a problem when I'm not doing
    an update, etc., so "always tell me about error messages unless
    specifically told not to".


    And yes, I do 'babysit' while the system scans; just easier for me to
    sit here and play a few games of Solitaire or look through e-mail.
    Just another reason why I talked myself into two monitors.
    Safer that way... and with the extra monitor you can amuse yourself
    while you wait.... ;)
    Right: though I do have several bars to look at if don't want to
    'play' on the other computer: progress bar, signal strength when it
    locks on a station, ... hmm: another few things to look at but
    apparently not all that exciting!
    The sort of thing you can do with one eye while playing
    solitare... ;)

    Right. And for me Solitaire is 'easily interruptible' so can stop and
    restart as needed.



    With the TVs (not talking the computer system on this one) one TV
    would display 4.1 and 47.1, another had two 4.1's (so when doing a
    Channel Up scan on the remote would be 4.1, 4.1, 4.2, 4.2,), while
    another combined: said 4.1 but might be Ch 47's, 4.2 might be from
    Ch 4. (The good news is seems they got rid of the repeater.)
    That is good news.... ;) That should reduce some of the
    confusion... :)
    Yes. Was relatively easy to set to ignore the repeater on the Backend
    (the computer), not at all so for the TVs.
    But by getting rid of the repeaters, you also get rid of some of that
    overlap you were seeing on the TVs.... :)
    True. Didn't really mind the duplication of the repeater but when it
    was overriding and the TV 'chose' the weaker repeater over the
    stronger primary station was shall we say alloying.
    (was that meant to be annoying....? [g])

    Maybe: when two substances combine....


    It seemed like the TV would accept the last station scanned, so 47 (repeater, weaker) would be selected over 4 (primary, stronger),
    though not always (47.1, 4.2, for example). So good something else
    was changed.
    True, it would have been less annoying if there seemed to be some legitmate logic to it... <G>

    Though I'd rather have it so both the stations were selected and the
    user could select the option of removal.


    <solar cell to charge battery of battery-powered TV>
    Right: at this point it's not going to work the way I would like it
    the easy way. Do have to test in the basement with the window with the
    glass blocks still: cleaning up, overcast, other things to do, But
    Firsts.... As you said, may be easier just to plug in to maintain the
    charge.
    Eventually you'll probably check it out further.... :)
    Yes, and maybe even get a few other half-started projects completed
    too!
    Especially if you are stuck home more at the moment (as long as
    you have all the parts at hand there).... ;)

    Yes: handier to be able to patch in the 'correction' rather than wait
    for the part to hopefully fix come in.


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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Wed Apr 29 22:23:28 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 20-Apr-2020 10:35 <=-

    Cold out there this morning! 29ø -- a few days ago it was in the low
    80's.
    We had that swing in temps, too... not quite so bad, as we were only
    almost to 70 and then went to the low 30s... ;)
    Was at 31ø when I woke up to what sounded like something sliding off
    the roof -- must have been the trash pickup as they start at 4 a.m. now due to the COVID-19. Used to start collections at 7 a.m. Not sure why they start three hours earlier now but....

    I don't think that our pickup times were changed due to COVID-19... I
    suppose starting earlier would let them finish earlier, maybe gives time
    to sanitize afterwards....?

    Supposed to get into the low 60's this afternoon but also up to 40 MPH winds this afternoon and rain/thunderstorms around 9 or 10 tonight.

    We had that last week, too... and now we're having a similar weather
    pattern again this week... a little warmer this week, though, than
    last... it was almost 70 today.... And there's only a slight
    possibility of the thunderstorms....

    Right: the length of time isn't bad, just the system is off-line while
    scanning/updating so need to be sure not recording/running into a
    recording period, and no one else can watch a recorded show. (Using
    the TV to watch live is fine -- two separate systems.)
    So ahead of time, you announce that the recording system is going
    offline for the scanning, and for everyone to wait until the all-clear
    sounds at the end.... ;)
    Pretty much. On the remote/viewing side of things would see a 'cannot
    connect to Backend' error which is then followed by me being told
    something is wrong with the system! So yes, announcing ahead of time
    and when finished is better. <g>
    Less bother for you... ;)
    Yes. And I do want to be told if there is a problem when I'm not
    doing an update, etc., so "always tell me about error messages unless specifically told not to".

    Makes sense... and should make things less confusing... ;)

    And yes, I do 'babysit' while the system scans; just easier for me to
    sit here and play a few games of Solitaire or look through e-mail.
    Just another reason why I talked myself into two monitors.
    Safer that way... and with the extra monitor you can amuse yourself
    while you wait.... ;)
    Right: though I do have several bars to look at if don't want to
    'play' on the other computer: progress bar, signal strength when it
    locks on a station, ... hmm: another few things to look at but
    apparently not all that exciting!
    The sort of thing you can do with one eye while playing solitare... ;)
    Right. And for me Solitaire is 'easily interruptible' so can stop and restart as needed.

    Exactly... :)

    But by getting rid of the repeaters, you also get rid of some of that
    overlap you were seeing on the TVs.... :)
    True. Didn't really mind the duplication of the repeater but when it
    was overriding and the TV 'chose' the weaker repeater over the
    stronger primary station was shall we say alloying.
    (was that meant to be annoying....? [g])
    Maybe: when two substances combine....

    ;)

    It seemed like the TV would accept the last station scanned, so 47
    (repeater, weaker) would be selected over 4 (primary, stronger),
    though not always (47.1, 4.2, for example). So good something else
    was changed.
    True, it would have been less annoying if there seemed to be some
    legitmate logic to it... <G>
    Though I'd rather have it so both the stations were selected and the
    user could select the option of removal.

    More likely that you'd pick the proper one to remove or to keep, that
    way.... ;)

    <solar cell to charge battery of battery-powered TV>
    Right: at this point it's not going to work the way I would like it
    the easy way. Do have to test in the basement with the window with the
    glass blocks still: cleaning up, overcast, other things to do, But
    Firsts.... As you said, may be easier just to plug in to maintain the
    charge.
    Eventually you'll probably check it out further.... :)
    Yes, and maybe even get a few other half-started projects completed
    too!
    Especially if you are stuck home more at the moment (as long as you
    have all the parts at hand there).... ;)
    Yes: handier to be able to patch in the 'correction' rather than wait
    for the part to hopefully fix come in.

    Yup.

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Thu Apr 30 11:30:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    Back from my Abbreviated Thursday Morning Meanderings. "Scored" a four-
    pack of Angel Soft toilet paper for a neighbour who has been on-line
    shopping but her store (not a HyVee) is always out of toilet paper. I
    was talked out of putting a bow on the package as a joke.


    Cold out there this morning! 29ø -- a few days ago it was in the low
    80's.
    We had that swing in temps, too... not quite so bad, as we were only
    almost to 70 and then went to the low 30s... ;)
    Was at 31ø when I woke up to what sounded like something sliding off
    the roof -- must have been the trash pickup as they start at 4 a.m. now due to the COVID-19. Used to start collections at 7 a.m. Not sure why they start three hours earlier now but....
    I don't think that our pickup times were changed due to
    COVID-19... I suppose starting earlier would let them finish
    earlier, maybe gives time to sanitize afterwards....?

    Possible. Even though automated pick up I'm quite sure there are
    accidents: minor ones from the container being blown over by the wind to
    more major ones like not being held securely by the picker's claw-arms. Neither of those are COVID-19 specific; I would have wanted to clean up
    after returning from the route. Sanitizing before entering the trucks
    would help prevent spread amongst the workers but doesn't take three
    hours, plus the start of the route was also advanced. <shrug>



    Supposed to get into the low 60's this afternoon but also up to 40 MPH winds this afternoon and rain/thunderstorms around 9 or 10 tonight.
    We had that last week, too... and now we're having a similar
    weather pattern again this week... a little warmer this week,
    though, than last... it was almost 70 today.... And there's only
    a slight possibility of the thunderstorms....

    We had some rain, thundestorms, wind earlier this week; today is nice
    and clear but very windy. Supposed to get into the lower 70's today; TV forecast says low-80's for Saturday but ansiweather (wherever their
    forecast comes from) says 74ø for Saturday's high. Cooler Sunday and
    next week.



    Right: the length of time isn't bad, just the system is off-line while
    scanning/updating so need to be sure not recording/running into a
    recording period, and no one else can watch a recorded show. (Using
    the TV to watch live is fine -- two separate systems.)
    So ahead of time, you announce that the recording system is going
    offline for the scanning, and for everyone to wait until the all-clear
    sounds at the end.... ;)
    Pretty much. On the remote/viewing side of things would see a 'cannot
    connect to Backend' error which is then followed by me being told
    something is wrong with the system! So yes, announcing ahead of time
    and when finished is better. <g>
    Less bother for you... ;)
    Yes. And I do want to be told if there is a problem when I'm not
    doing an update, etc., so "always tell me about error messages unless specifically told not to".
    Makes sense... and should make things less confusing... ;)

    Yes - for all!


    <TV scanning with a repeater station>
    It seemed like the TV would accept the last station scanned, so 47
    (repeater, weaker) would be selected over 4 (primary, stronger),
    though not always (47.1, 4.2, for example). So good something else
    was changed.
    True, it would have been less annoying if there seemed to be some
    legitmate logic to it... <G>
    Though I'd rather have it so both the stations were selected and the
    user could select the option of removal.
    More likely that you'd pick the proper one to remove or to keep,
    that way.... ;)

    And there are reasons to want the weaker repeater station: a while back something happened and Channel 4 (the main station) was on but no data:
    the carrier was there but no audio nor video. The repeater station at
    Channel 47 was broadcasting properly.


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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Wed May 6 21:33:48 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 30-Apr-2020 11:30 <=-

    Back from my Abbreviated Thursday Morning Meanderings. "Scored" a four-pack of Angel Soft toilet paper for a neighbour who has been
    on-line shopping but her store (not a HyVee) is always out of toilet paper. I was talked out of putting a bow on the package as a joke.

    [chuckle] Who knows, she might have appreciated the bow.... ;) It was
    a nice gesture/present all the same... :)

    Was at 31ø when I woke up to what sounded like something sliding off
    the roof -- must have been the trash pickup as they start at 4 a.m. now
    due to the COVID-19. Used to start collections at 7 a.m. Not sure why
    they start three hours earlier now but....
    I don't think that our pickup times were changed due to COVID-19...
    I suppose starting earlier would let them finish earlier, maybe gives
    time to sanitize afterwards....?
    Possible. Even though automated pick up I'm quite sure there are accidents: minor ones from the container being blown over by the wind
    to more major ones like not being held securely by the picker's
    claw-arms. Neither of those are COVID-19 specific; I would have wanted
    to clean up after returning from the route. Sanitizing before entering the trucks would help prevent spread amongst the workers but doesn't
    take three hours, plus the start of the route was also advanced. <shrug>

    I was thinking sanitizing after the route... which should still be
    sanitized when they start the next day's route....

    Supposed to get into the low 60's this afternoon but also up to 40 MPH
    winds this afternoon and rain/thunderstorms around 9 or 10 tonight.
    We had that last week, too... and now we're having a similar weather
    pattern again this week... a little warmer this week, though, than
    last... it was almost 70 today.... And there's only a slight
    possibility of the thunderstorms....
    We had some rain, thundestorms, wind earlier this week; today is nice
    and clear but very windy. Supposed to get into the lower 70's today;
    TV forecast says low-80's for Saturday but ansiweather (wherever their forecast comes from) says 74ø for Saturday's high. Cooler Sunday and
    next week.

    Still no thunderstorms here that I'm aware of... rain and wind,
    though... and now this week is quite cool for May, after having had a
    lovely Sunday, with the high in the high 70s... frost warnings almost
    every night this week, and the threat of snow for maybe Saturday...

    <TV scanning with a repeater station>
    It seemed like the TV would accept the last station scanned, so 47
    (repeater, weaker) would be selected over 4 (primary, stronger),
    though not always (47.1, 4.2, for example). So good something else
    was changed.
    True, it would have been less annoying if there seemed to be some
    legitmate logic to it... <G>
    Though I'd rather have it so both the stations were selected and the
    user could select the option of removal.
    More likely that you'd pick the proper one to remove or to keep, that
    way.... ;)
    And there are reasons to want the weaker repeater station: a while
    back something happened and Channel 4 (the main station) was on but no data: the carrier was there but no audio nor video. The repeater
    station at Channel 47 was broadcasting properly.

    Yes... at that point, you'd want the option to choose the working
    station, for sure.... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Thu May 7 12:37:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    Back from my Abbreviated Thursday Morning Meanderings. "Scored" a four-pack of Angel Soft toilet paper for a neighbour who has been
    on-line shopping but her store (not a HyVee) is always out of toilet paper. I was talked out of putting a bow on the package as a joke.
    [chuckle] Who knows, she might have appreciated the bow.... ;)
    It was a nice gesture/present all the same... :)

    Yes, I thought she would think it humourous. Oh well.



    Was at 31ø when I woke up to what sounded like something sliding off
    the roof -- must have been the trash pickup as they start at 4 a.m. now
    due to the COVID-19. Used to start collections at 7 a.m. Not sure why
    they start three hours earlier now but....
    I don't think that our pickup times were changed due to COVID-19...
    I suppose starting earlier would let them finish earlier, maybe gives
    time to sanitize afterwards....?
    Possible. Even though automated pick up I'm quite sure there are accidents: minor ones from the container being blown over by the wind
    to more major ones like not being held securely by the picker's
    claw-arms. Neither of those are COVID-19 specific; I would have wanted
    to clean up after returning from the route. Sanitizing before entering the trucks would help prevent spread amongst the workers but doesn't
    take three hours, plus the start of the route was also advanced. <shrug>
    I was thinking sanitizing after the route... which should still
    be sanitized when they start the next day's route....

    True -- to me would make more sense to clean after the day's route than
    to leave it overnight to 'fester'. Personally I'd probably do a
    touch-up job before starting my route: wipe the steering wheel and
    control handles but more of a dusting as opposed to a deep cleaning.


    Supposed to get into the low 60's this afternoon but also up to 40 MPH
    winds this afternoon and rain/thunderstorms around 9 or 10 tonight.
    We had that last week, too... and now we're having a similar weather
    pattern again this week... a little warmer this week, though, than
    last... it was almost 70 today.... And there's only a slight
    possibility of the thunderstorms....
    We had some rain, thundestorms, wind earlier this week; today is nice
    and clear but very windy. Supposed to get into the lower 70's today;
    TV forecast says low-80's for Saturday but ansiweather (wherever their forecast comes from) says 74ø for Saturday's high. Cooler Sunday and
    next week.
    Still no thunderstorms here that I'm aware of... rain and wind,
    though... and now this week is quite cool for May, after having
    had a lovely Sunday, with the high in the high 70s... frost
    warnings almost every night this week, and the threat of snow for
    maybe Saturday...

    High today supposed to be 66ø with a chance of some rain late to
    overnight and a cold front coming through. Still talking about 31ø or
    so for Saturday morning and chillier than normal next week.



    <TV scanning with a repeater station>
    It seemed like the TV would accept the last station scanned, so 47
    (repeater, weaker) would be selected over 4 (primary, stronger),
    though not always (47.1, 4.2, for example). So good something else
    was changed.
    True, it would have been less annoying if there seemed to be some
    legitmate logic to it... <G>
    Though I'd rather have it so both the stations were selected and the
    user could select the option of removal.
    More likely that you'd pick the proper one to remove or to keep, that
    way.... ;)
    And there are reasons to want the weaker repeater station: a while
    back something happened and Channel 4 (the main station) was on but no data: the carrier was there but no audio nor video. The repeater
    station at Channel 47 was broadcasting properly.
    Yes... at that point, you'd want the option to choose the working
    station, for sure.... :)

    It does make watching the show more entertaining!


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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Thu May 14 19:58:40 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 07-May-2020 12:37 <=-

    Back from my Abbreviated Thursday Morning Meanderings. "Scored" a
    four-pack of Angel Soft toilet paper for a neighbour who has been
    on-line shopping but her store (not a HyVee) is always out of toilet
    paper. I was talked out of putting a bow on the package as a joke.
    [chuckle] Who knows, she might have appreciated the bow.... ;)
    It was a nice gesture/present all the same... :)
    Yes, I thought she would think it humourous. Oh well.

    Another time, maybe... ;)

    Was at 31ø when I woke up to what sounded like something sliding off
    the roof -- must have been the trash pickup as they start at 4 a.m. now
    due to the COVID-19. Used to start collections at 7 a.m. Not sure why
    they start three hours earlier now but....
    I don't think that our pickup times were changed due to COVID-19...
    I suppose starting earlier would let them finish earlier, maybe gives
    time to sanitize afterwards....?
    Possible. Even though automated pick up I'm quite sure there are
    accidents: minor ones from the container being blown over by the wind
    to more major ones like not being held securely by the picker's
    claw-arms. Neither of those are COVID-19 specific; I would have wanted
    to clean up after returning from the route. Sanitizing before entering
    the trucks would help prevent spread amongst the workers but doesn't
    take three hours, plus the start of the route was also advanced. <shrug>
    I was thinking sanitizing after the route... which should still be
    sanitized when they start the next day's route....
    True -- to me would make more sense to clean after the day's route
    than to leave it overnight to 'fester'. Personally I'd probably do a touch-up job before starting my route: wipe the steering wheel and
    control handles but more of a dusting as opposed to a deep cleaning.

    Besides, if you were the last one in the truck the night before, how
    would it have picked up any viruses overnight after your deep clean....?

    Supposed to get into the low 60's this afternoon but also up to 40 MPH
    winds this afternoon and rain/thunderstorms around 9 or 10 tonight.
    We had that last week, too... and now we're having a similar weather
    pattern again this week... a little warmer this week, though, than
    last... it was almost 70 today.... And there's only a slight
    possibility of the thunderstorms....
    We had some rain, thunderstorms, wind earlier this week; today is nice
    and clear but very windy. Supposed to get into the lower 70's today;
    TV forecast says low-80's for Saturday but ansiweather (wherever their
    forecast comes from) says 74ø for Saturday's high. Cooler Sunday and
    next week.
    Still no thunderstorms here that I'm aware of... rain and wind,
    though... and now this week is quite cool for May, after having had a
    lovely Sunday, with the high in the high 70s... frost warnings almost
    every night this week, and the threat of snow for maybe Saturday...
    High today supposed to be 66ø with a chance of some rain late to
    overnight and a cold front coming through. Still talking about 31ø or
    so for Saturday morning and chillier than normal next week.

    We had those frost warnings clear through last night (13/14), every day
    just about, and one day I did hear a little thunder in the distance...
    but now we are finally having warmer weather... rain on the way, though,
    and possibly thunderstorms...

    <TV scanning with a repeater station>
    It seemed like the TV would accept the last station scanned, so 47
    (repeater, weaker) would be selected over 4 (primary, stronger),
    though not always (47.1, 4.2, for example). So good something else
    was changed.
    True, it would have been less annoying if there seemed to be some
    legitmate logic to it... <G>
    Though I'd rather have it so both the stations were selected and the
    user could select the option of removal.
    More likely that you'd pick the proper one to remove or to keep, that
    way.... ;)
    And there are reasons to want the weaker repeater station: a while
    back something happened and Channel 4 (the main station) was on but no
    data: the carrier was there but no audio nor video. The repeater
    station at Channel 47 was broadcasting properly.
    Yes... at that point, you'd want the option to choose the working
    station, for sure.... :)
    It does make watching the show more entertaining!

    To say nothing of not being a waste of time.... ;) Better to have the
    options available... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Fri May 15 10:27:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    Back from my Abbreviated Thursday Morning Meanderings. "Scored" a
    four-pack of Angel Soft toilet paper for a neighbour who has been
    on-line shopping but her store (not a HyVee) is always out of toilet
    paper. I was talked out of putting a bow on the package as a joke.
    [chuckle] Who knows, she might have appreciated the bow.... ;)
    It was a nice gesture/present all the same... :)
    Yes, I thought she would think it humourous. Oh well.
    Another time, maybe... ;)

    Hopefully not with toilet paper -- don't want the shortage to last! Did
    'have' to go up the paper goods aisle during yesterday's shopping --
    supply looked pretty good -- still not at full stock but definitely not
    almost bare like several weeks ago. Still signage for limit of one.


    Was at 31ø when I woke up to what sounded like something sliding off
    the roof -- must have been the trash pickup as they start at 4 a.m. now
    due to the COVID-19. Used to start collections at 7 a.m. Not sure why
    they start three hours earlier now but....
    I don't think that our pickup times were changed due to COVID-19...
    I suppose starting earlier would let them finish earlier, maybe gives
    time to sanitize afterwards....?
    Possible. Even though automated pick up I'm quite sure there are
    accidents: minor ones from the container being blown over by the wind
    to more major ones like not being held securely by the picker's
    claw-arms. Neither of those are COVID-19 specific; I would have wanted
    to clean up after returning from the route. Sanitizing before entering
    the trucks would help prevent spread amongst the workers but doesn't
    take three hours, plus the start of the route was also advanced. <shrug>
    I was thinking sanitizing after the route... which should still be
    sanitized when they start the next day's route....
    True -- to me would make more sense to clean after the day's route
    than to leave it overnight to 'fester'. Personally I'd probably do a touch-up job before starting my route: wipe the steering wheel and
    control handles but more of a dusting as opposed to a deep cleaning.
    Besides, if you were the last one in the truck the night before,
    how would it have picked up any viruses overnight after your deep clean....?

    There is a possibility: virus hitchhiking on a breeze from opening the
    garage door or maybe even the heating system. So I'm thinking a
    thorough cleaning when returning -- probably somehow isolated from the
    parking lot where the other trucks have been cleaned -- and a touch-up
    in the morning.



    We had those frost warnings clear through last night (13/14),
    every day just about, and one day I did hear a little thunder in
    the distance... but now we are finally having warmer weather...
    rain on the way, though, and possibly thunderstorms...

    We've had thunderstorms overnight the past two nights. Not a lot of
    rain - think they said two inches for both nights - but the sump pump is emptying every so often and went by Duck Creek a little while ago to
    drop off the car to get the new grill installed (broken by the hail
    storm a few weeks ago) and it is running very high.


    <TV scanning with a repeater station>
    It seemed like the TV would accept the last station scanned, so 47
    (repeater, weaker) would be selected over 4 (primary, stronger),
    though not always (47.1, 4.2, for example). So good something else
    was changed.
    True, it would have been less annoying if there seemed to be some
    legitmate logic to it... <G>
    Though I'd rather have it so both the stations were selected and the
    user could select the option of removal.
    More likely that you'd pick the proper one to remove or to keep, that
    way.... ;)
    And there are reasons to want the weaker repeater station: a while
    back something happened and Channel 4 (the main station) was on but no
    data: the carrier was there but no audio nor video. The repeater
    station at Channel 47 was broadcasting properly.
    Yes... at that point, you'd want the option to choose the working
    station, for sure.... :)
    It does make watching the show more entertaining!
    To say nothing of not being a waste of time.... ;) Better to
    have the options available... :)

    Generally yes. :)


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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Wed May 27 09:46:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    Back from my Abbreviated Thursday Morning Meanderings. "Scored" a
    four-pack of Angel Soft toilet paper for a neighbour who has been
    on-line shopping but her store (not a HyVee) is always out of toilet
    paper. I was talked out of putting a bow on the package as a joke.
    [chuckle] Who knows, she might have appreciated the bow.... ;)
    It was a nice gesture/present all the same... :)
    Yes, I thought she would think it humourous. Oh well.
    Another time, maybe... ;)
    Hopefully not with toilet paper -- don't want the shortage to last!
    Did 'have' to go up the paper goods aisle during yesterday's shopping
    -- supply looked pretty good -- still not at full stock but definitely
    not almost bare like several weeks ago. Still signage for limit of
    one.
    The limits probably do help maintain the reasonable supply... :)

    Probably, and unless buying for a family of ten with diarrhea one
    doesn't need more than one multi-pack at a time.



    Possible. Even though automated pick up I'm quite sure there are
    accidents: minor ones from the container being blown over by the wind
    to more major ones like not being held securely by the picker's
    claw-arms. Neither of those are COVID-19 specific; I would have wanted
    to clean up after returning from the route. Sanitizing before entering
    the trucks would help prevent spread amongst the workers but doesn't
    take three hours, plus the start of the route was also advanced.
    <shrug> NB>>> I was thinking sanitizing after the route... which
    should still be NB>>> sanitized when they start the next day's
    route....
    True -- to me would make more sense to clean after the day's route
    than to leave it overnight to 'fester'. Personally I'd probably do a
    touch-up job before starting my route: wipe the steering wheel and
    control handles but more of a dusting as opposed to a deep cleaning.
    Besides, if you were the last one in the truck the night before, how
    would it have picked up any viruses overnight after your deep clean...?
    There is a possibility: virus hitchhiking on a breeze from opening the garage door or maybe even the heating system. So I'm thinking a
    thorough cleaning when returning -- probably somehow isolated from the parking lot where the other trucks have been cleaned -- and a touch-up
    in the morning.
    NOt that the touch-up is a bad thing, but I think the hitchhiking
    viruses aren't all that likely....

    I'm thinking also not too likely. Still, because of the high level of unknown about COVID-19 it seems the better safe than sorry rule applies.



    We had a little rain, but nothing all that significant.... and
    currently are having abnormally hot weather... the record for
    today is 90ø, and there's a good chance we could meet or beat
    that... much too hot for May... another couple of days in the 80s

    Bleah!! on the 90ø! Supposed to get into the low 80's today -- past few
    days has gotten into the upper 80's which was too hot too suddenly.
    Week out forecast for 70's, but potentially rainy, which isn't helping
    with getting the roof replaced, etc.


    <TV scanning with a repeater station>
    And there are reasons to want the weaker repeater station: a while
    back something happened and Channel 4 (the main station) was on but no
    data: the carrier was there but no audio nor video. The repeater
    station at Channel 47 was broadcasting properly.
    Yes... at that point, you'd want the option to choose the working
    station, for sure.... :)
    It does make watching the show more entertaining!
    To say nothing of not being a waste of time.... ;) Better to have the
    options available... :)
    Generally yes. :)
    Unless one really doesn't care about whether or not one sees the program... :)

    For you, egh; for me, sometimes an odd-ball form for entertainment!



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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Tue May 26 17:55:20 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 15-May-2020 10:27 <=-

    Back from my Abbreviated Thursday Morning Meanderings. "Scored" a
    four-pack of Angel Soft toilet paper for a neighbour who has been
    on-line shopping but her store (not a HyVee) is always out of toilet
    paper. I was talked out of putting a bow on the package as a joke.
    [chuckle] Who knows, she might have appreciated the bow.... ;)
    It was a nice gesture/present all the same... :)
    Yes, I thought she would think it humourous. Oh well.
    Another time, maybe... ;)
    Hopefully not with toilet paper -- don't want the shortage to last!
    Did 'have' to go up the paper goods aisle during yesterday's shopping
    -- supply looked pretty good -- still not at full stock but definitely
    not almost bare like several weeks ago. Still signage for limit of
    one.

    The limits probably do help maintain the reasonable supply... :)

    Possible. Even though automated pick up I'm quite sure there are
    accidents: minor ones from the container being blown over by the wind
    to more major ones like not being held securely by the picker's
    claw-arms. Neither of those are COVID-19 specific; I would have wanted
    to clean up after returning from the route. Sanitizing before entering
    the trucks would help prevent spread amongst the workers but doesn't
    take three hours, plus the start of the route was also advanced. <shrug>
    I was thinking sanitizing after the route... which should still be
    sanitized when they start the next day's route....
    True -- to me would make more sense to clean after the day's route
    than to leave it overnight to 'fester'. Personally I'd probably do a
    touch-up job before starting my route: wipe the steering wheel and
    control handles but more of a dusting as opposed to a deep cleaning.
    Besides, if you were the last one in the truck the night before, how
    would it have picked up any viruses overnight after your deep clean...?
    There is a possibility: virus hitchhiking on a breeze from opening the garage door or maybe even the heating system. So I'm thinking a
    thorough cleaning when returning -- probably somehow isolated from the parking lot where the other trucks have been cleaned -- and a touch-up
    in the morning.

    NOt that the touch-up is a bad thing, but I think the hitchhiking
    viruses aren't all that likely....

    We had those frost warnings clear through last night (13/14), every
    day just about, and one day I did hear a little thunder in the
    distance... but now we are finally having warmer weather... rain on
    the way, though, and possibly thunderstorms...
    We've had thunderstorms overnight the past two nights. Not a lot of
    rain - think they said two inches for both nights - but the sump pump
    is emptying every so often and went by Duck Creek a little while ago to drop off the car to get the new grill installed (broken by the hail
    storm a few weeks ago) and it is running very high.

    We had a little rain, but nothing all that significant.... and currently
    are having abnormally hot weather... the record for today is 90ø, and
    there's a good chance we could meet or beat that... much too hot for
    May... another couple of days in the 80s and then it's supposed to
    break, with a thunderstorm coming in on Friday... and then highs in the
    60s for the weekend... :) Crazy weather... :)

    <TV scanning with a repeater station>
    And there are reasons to want the weaker repeater station: a while
    back something happened and Channel 4 (the main station) was on but no
    data: the carrier was there but no audio nor video. The repeater
    station at Channel 47 was broadcasting properly.
    Yes... at that point, you'd want the option to choose the working
    station, for sure.... :)
    It does make watching the show more entertaining!
    To say nothing of not being a waste of time.... ;) Better to have the
    options available... :)
    Generally yes. :)

    Unless one really doesn't care about whether or not one sees the
    program... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Fri Jun 5 18:18:08 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 27-May-2020 09:46 <=-

    Hopefully not with toilet paper -- don't want the shortage to last!
    Did 'have' to go up the paper goods aisle during yesterday's shopping
    -- supply looked pretty good -- still not at full stock but definitely
    not almost bare like several weeks ago. Still signage for limit of
    one.
    The limits probably do help maintain the reasonable supply... :)
    Probably, and unless buying for a family of ten with diarrhea one
    doesn't need more than one multi-pack at a time.

    And one could always get the 20-pack or the 36-pack (depending on the
    store)... ;)

    True -- to me would make more sense to clean after the day's route
    than to leave it overnight to 'fester'. Personally I'd probably do a
    touch-up job before starting my route: wipe the steering wheel and
    control handles but more of a dusting as opposed to a deep cleaning.
    Besides, if you were the last one in the truck the night before, how
    would it have picked up any viruses overnight after your deep clean...?
    There is a possibility: virus hitchhiking on a breeze from opening the
    garage door or maybe even the heating system. So I'm thinking a
    thorough cleaning when returning -- probably somehow isolated from the
    parking lot where the other trucks have been cleaned -- and a touch-up
    in the morning.
    Not that the touch-up is a bad thing, but I think the hitchhiking
    viruses aren't all that likely....
    I'm thinking also not too likely. Still, because of the high level
    of unknown about COVID-19 it seems the better safe than sorry rule applies.

    There's been probably more than enough of that better safe than sorry reasoning, though....

    We had a little rain, but nothing all that significant.... and
    currently are having abnormally hot weather... the record for today
    is 90ø, and there's a good chance we could meet or beat that... much
    too hot for May... another couple of days in the 80s
    Bleah!! on the 90ø! Supposed to get into the low 80's today -- past
    few days has gotten into the upper 80's which was too hot too suddenly.

    As I said in earlier messages, we did break that record, with 92ø, then
    another 90 degree day, and then a couple more in the high 80s before
    becoming unseasonably cool for a few days, in the 60s... Now we're back
    in the mid-80s for a couple of days... tomorrow is supposed to be only
    mid 70s, and Sunday only 66ø... but I'd rather that than the heat...

    Week out forecast for 70's, but potentially rainy, which isn't helping with getting the roof replaced, etc.

    Has the weather permitted your repairs yet...?

    <TV scanning with a repeater station>
    And there are reasons to want the weaker repeater station: a while
    back something happened and Channel 4 (the main station) was on but no
    data: the carrier was there but no audio nor video. The repeater
    station at Channel 47 was broadcasting properly.
    Yes... at that point, you'd want the option to choose the working
    station, for sure.... :)
    It does make watching the show more entertaining!
    To say nothing of not being a waste of time.... ;) Better to have the
    options available... :)
    Generally yes. :)
    Unless one really doesn't care about whether or not one sees the
    program... :)
    For you, egh; for me, sometimes an odd-ball form for entertainment!

    True... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Sat Jun 6 10:32:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    Hopefully not with toilet paper -- don't want the shortage to last!
    Did 'have' to go up the paper goods aisle during yesterday's shopping
    -- supply looked pretty good -- still not at full stock but definitely
    not almost bare like several weeks ago. Still signage for limit of
    one.
    The limits probably do help maintain the reasonable supply... :)
    Probably, and unless buying for a family of ten with diarrhea one
    doesn't need more than one multi-pack at a time.
    And one could always get the 20-pack or the 36-pack (depending on
    the store)... ;)

    True: quite sure a large family would have been buying the 20- or 36-
    (or more!) packs prior to the shortage. Of course a potential problem
    of timing: going to purchase during the shopping trip planned for just
    after the shortage-hoarding hit. "Four pack? We have that many
    bathrooms!"


    True -- to me would make more sense to clean after the day's route
    than to leave it overnight to 'fester'. Personally I'd probably do a
    touch-up job before starting my route: wipe the steering wheel and
    control handles but more of a dusting as opposed to a deep cleaning.
    Besides, if you were the last one in the truck the night before, how
    would it have picked up any viruses overnight after your deep clean...?
    There is a possibility: virus hitchhiking on a breeze from opening the
    garage door or maybe even the heating system. So I'm thinking a
    thorough cleaning when returning -- probably somehow isolated from the
    parking lot where the other trucks have been cleaned -- and a touch-up
    in the morning.
    Not that the touch-up is a bad thing, but I think the hitchhiking
    viruses aren't all that likely....
    I'm thinking also not too likely. Still, because of the high level
    of unknown about COVID-19 it seems the better safe than sorry rule applies.
    There's been probably more than enough of that better safe than
    sorry reasoning, though....

    Right: too-clean hasn't caused a problem. Plus if one sees the cleaning
    being done or does it themselves then knows it's clean. Technically may
    have been cleaned much more thoroughly before, but seeing/doing the
    cleaning is a psychological boost.


    We had a little rain, but nothing all that significant.... and
    currently are having abnormally hot weather... the record for today
    is 90ø, and there's a good chance we could meet or beat that... much
    too hot for May... another couple of days in the 80s
    Bleah!! on the 90ø! Supposed to get into the low 80's today -- past
    few days has gotten into the upper 80's which was too hot too suddenly.
    As I said in earlier messages, we did break that record, with
    92ø, then another 90 degree day, and then a couple more in the
    high 80s before becoming unseasonably cool for a few days, in the
    60s... Now we're back in the mid-80s for a couple of days...
    tomorrow is supposed to be only mid 70s, and Sunday only 66ø...
    but I'd rather that than the heat...

    66ø?! Get the sweaters on!! We've been in the middle and upper 80's
    lately. They're talking about hitting 90ø today (Saturday June 6th) and somewhere in the low 90's on Monday -- nothing significant about next
    Monday except that's when we're supposed to be getting the roof replaced
    (hail storm damaged). Wednesday and Thursday they forecast rain from
    the remnants of (Tropical Storm) Cristobal. Roof isn't leaking, just
    want to get it done. And maybe a little emphasis because 'everyone'
    around here has been or having their roof redone from the same storm.



    <TV scanning with a repeater station>
    And there are reasons to want the weaker repeater station: a while
    back something happened and Channel 4 (the main station) was on but no
    data: the carrier was there but no audio nor video. The repeater
    station at Channel 47 was broadcasting properly.
    Yes... at that point, you'd want the option to choose the working
    station, for sure.... :)
    It does make watching the show more entertaining!
    To say nothing of not being a waste of time.... ;) Better to have the
    options available... :)
    Generally yes. :)
    Unless one really doesn't care about whether or not one sees the
    program... :)
    For you, egh; for me, sometimes an odd-ball form for entertainment!
    True... :)

    Sort of along those lines we've bene watching the Teachers Tournament on _Jeopardy!_ -- that was taped last February (!) -- three or four months
    ago. The 'big deal' on that bit of trivia (they put up an overlay
    announcing the detail) is there is an audience - if current would not be
    an audience.

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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to Barry Martin on Mon Jun 8 09:44:00 2020
    Barry,

    True: quite sure a large family would have been buying the 20- or 36-
    (or more!) packs prior to the shortage. Of course a potential problem
    of timing: going to purchase during the shopping trip planned for just after the shortage-hoarding hit. "Four pack? We have that many bathrooms!"

    I've got plenty of toilet paper and paper towels...which helps being the
    only one here.

    Right: too-clean hasn't caused a problem. Plus if one sees the
    cleaning being done or does it themselves then knows it's clean. Technically may have been cleaned much more thoroughly before, but seeing/doing the cleaning is a psychological boost.

    I have a new toilet bowl cleaner that I need to try out, but I'm trying
    to get all the computer work done before the remnants of Cristobal get here.

    66ø?! Get the sweaters on!! We've been in the middle and upper 80's lately. They're talking about hitting 90ø today (Saturday June 6th)
    and somewhere in the low 90's on Monday -- nothing significant about
    next Monday except that's when we're supposed to be getting the roof replaced (hail storm damaged). Wednesday and Thursday they forecast
    rain from the remnants of (Tropical Storm) Cristobal. Roof isn't
    leaking, just want to get it done. And maybe a little emphasis because 'everyone' around here has been or having their roof redone from the
    same storm.

    The rain will cool us off, but once it ends, and the sun and heat return,
    all that soil moisture will push the heat index over 100.

    Sort of along those lines we've bene watching the Teachers Tournament
    on _Jeopardy!_ -- that was taped last February (!) -- three or four
    months ago. The 'big deal' on that bit of trivia (they put up an
    overlay announcing the detail) is there is an audience - if current
    would not be an audience.

    COVID19 has killed many of the TV shows...game shows, soap operas, etc.

    Daryl

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Tue Jun 9 08:02:00 2020

    Hi Daryl!

    True: quite sure a large family would have been buying the 20- or 36-
    (or more!) packs prior to the shortage. Of course a potential problem
    of timing: going to purchase during the shopping trip planned for just after the shortage-hoarding hit. "Four pack? We have that many bathrooms!"
    I've got plenty of toilet paper and paper towels...which helps
    being the only one here.

    Except when you run out from on the wall and the spares are in the
    closest!


    I have a new toilet bowl cleaner that I need to try out, but
    I'm trying to get all the computer work done before the remnants
    of Cristobal get here.

    Makes sense: you can always clean the toilet by candlelight but can't
    run the computers without power! <g>


    66ø?! Get the sweaters on!! We've been in the middle and upper 80's lately. They're talking about hitting 90ø today (Saturday June 6th)
    and somewhere in the low 90's on Monday -- nothing significant about
    next Monday except that's when we're supposed to be getting the roof replaced (hail storm damaged). Wednesday and Thursday they forecast
    rain from the remnants of (Tropical Storm) Cristobal. Roof isn't
    leaking, just want to get it done. And maybe a little emphasis because 'everyone' around here has been or having their roof redone from the
    same storm.
    The rain will cool us off, but once it ends, and the sun and
    heat return, all that soil moisture will push the heat index over
    100.

    Yesterday (Monday) the roofers were here to replace the roof (hail
    damage) -- the semi-official high I saw was 92ø but the (digital)
    thermometer here at the house said 99ø. Today's high only supposed to
    be in the mid-80's but rain around noon -- Cristobal is over Missouri currently and tracking for us to be on the eastern leading edge around
    noon. Tomorrow and Thursday almost cold at in the 70's.


    Sort of along those lines we've bene watching the Teachers Tournament
    on _Jeopardy!_ -- that was taped last February (!) -- three or four
    months ago. The 'big deal' on that bit of trivia (they put up an
    overlay announcing the detail) is there is an audience - if current
    would not be an audience.
    COVID19 has killed many of the TV shows...game shows, soap
    operas, etc.

    "It's going to be interesting!" It looked like some of the shows we
    watch ended a bit oddly due to a quick wrap-up because of impending closures/shutdowns. Other seasonal shows have a full audience --
    "obviously" recorded before the pandemic hit. (Some of) the soap
    operas are showing reruns: was channel-surfing and saw one in was in the
    old 4:3 format (back in the analog TV days with CRTs/glass picture
    tubes.

    I'm curious as to what will happen in the Fall when the television season traditionally starts up again?

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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to Barry Martin on Thu Jun 11 09:34:00 2020
    Barry,

    I've got plenty of toilet paper and paper towels...which helps
    being the only one here.

    Except when you run out from on the wall and the spares are in the closest!

    I check that before I go fight the cat in the sandbox...plus I don't
    use that many paper towels. Housecleaning is on hold for another week,
    until I see the hernia surgeron.

    Makes sense: you can always clean the toilet by candlelight but can't
    run the computers without power! <g>

    But, it's not fun when you're on the throne, and the lights go out. :P

    Yesterday (Monday) the roofers were here to replace the roof (hail
    damage) -- the semi-official high I saw was 92ø but the (digital) thermometer here at the house said 99ø. Today's high only supposed to
    be in the mid-80's but rain around noon -- Cristobal is over Missouri currently and tracking for us to be on the eastern leading edge around noon. Tomorrow and Thursday almost cold at in the 70's.

    We're having highs in the 80s and lows in the low 60s, but it must've been
    in the 50s last night. I got chilled, so I had to turn the heat on. The forecast high by next Wednesdsay is 93...so heat advisories may return soon.

    "It's going to be interesting!" It looked like some of the shows we
    watch ended a bit oddly due to a quick wrap-up because of impending closures/shutdowns. Other seasonal shows have a full audience -- "obviously" recorded before the pandemic hit. (Some of) the soap
    operas are showing reruns: was channel-surfing and saw one in was in
    the old 4:3 format (back in the analog TV days with CRTs/glass picture tubes.

    Then, they are using the laugh tracks instead of a live audience. Plus,
    all the money the actors and everyone else lost, when production was suspeneded. We'll move to Phase 2 of reopening on Monday...not sure when
    Phase 3 will occur, or if there's a Phase 4.

    I'm curious as to what will happen in the Fall when the television
    season traditionally starts up again?

    Reruns of reruns?? :P

    ... "The Lawrence Welk Show" premiered on ABC-TV on July 2, 1955.

    I love watching ragtime pianist JoAnn Castle.

    Daryl

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Fri Jun 12 12:14:00 2020

    Hi Daryl!

    I've got plenty of toilet paper and paper towels...which helps
    being the only one here.
    Except when you run out from on the wall and the spares are in the closest!
    I check that before I go fight the cat in the sandbox...plus I
    don't use that many paper towels. Housecleaning is on hold for
    another week, until I see the hernia surgeron.

    In the first floor batheroom there's a small wooden storage cabinet and
    a 'emergency' roll of toilet paper is kept in there, should not plan
    ahead or doesn't look like running out. Upstairs bathoom has a
    free-standing metal toilet paper holder: the roll for use hangs at the
    top, the spare rolls stack underneath. Run out of paper and it's your
    own fault as in plain sight!


    Makes sense: you can always clean the toilet by candlelight but can't
    run the computers without power! <g>
    But, it's not fun when you're on the throne, and the lights go
    out. :P

    <chuckle> No! LIS some time back, here have a couple of plug-in
    emergency lights, a few 'regular' lights powered by various UPSs. No
    emergency lighting in the bathrooms; have taken showers by lantern light
    after the fact (power had gone out).


    Yesterday (Monday) the roofers were here to replace the roof (hail
    damage) -- the semi-official high I saw was 92ø but the (digital) thermometer here at the house said 99ø. Today's high only supposed to
    be in the mid-80's but rain around noon -- Cristobal is over Missouri currently and tracking for us to be on the eastern leading edge around noon. Tomorrow and Thursday almost cold at in the 70's.
    We're having highs in the 80s and lows in the low 60s, but it
    must've been in the 50s last night. I got chilled, so I had to
    turn the heat on. The forecast high by next Wednesdsay is 93...so
    heat advisories may return soon.

    Your chill may also have been a reaction to healing from the hernia
    surgery. If you're cold and putting on a sweater, etc., doesn't work,
    furnace it is!

    Next week here is supposed to be cooler than average, IIRC. "It is what
    it is". In summer the house tends to get hot in the evening even though cooling off outside, so sometimes it's in the 80's outside and we have
    the windows open or otherise cool inside; might be 70's or even 60's
    outside, getting into the 80's inside, so flip on the air!



    "It's going to be interesting!" It looked like some of the shows we
    watch ended a bit oddly due to a quick wrap-up because of impending closures/shutdowns. Other seasonal shows have a full audience -- "obviously" recorded before the pandemic hit. (Some of) the soap
    operas are showing reruns: was channel-surfing and saw one in was in
    the old 4:3 format (back in the analog TV days with CRTs/glass picture tubes.
    Then, they are using the laugh tracks instead of a live
    audience. Plus, all the money the actors and everyone else lost,
    when production was suspeneded. We'll move to Phase 2 of
    reopening on Monday...not sure when Phase 3 will occur, or if
    there's a Phase 4.

    The whole thing has a bunch of new's -- sure, have been strikes with a
    segment of the workforce out, but never to this extent.

    Off-hand not sure what stage/step/level Iowa and Illinois are at.
    Things are more or less in a state of flux as numbers dictate. Even if officially announced an all-clear I'm going to maintain caution for a
    while.

    Update: The noon news stated Iowa is removing the 50% capacity
    limitations for restaurants, and several other sites effective today
    (Friday June 12). They did not mention what's going on on the
    Illinois side. The hospitals are allowing one adult visitor per
    patient. two for end-of-life and births.


    I'm curious as to what will happen in the Fall when the television
    season traditionally starts up again?
    Reruns of reruns?? :P

    Some could be worthwhile!


    ... "The Lawrence Welk Show" premiered on ABC-TV on July 2, 1955.
    I love watching ragtime pianist JoAnn Castle.

    So a rerun on other than PBS would be of interest!


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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to Barry Martin on Sun Jun 14 09:49:00 2020
    Barry,

    In the first floor batheroom there's a small wooden storage cabinet and
    a 'emergency' roll of toilet paper is kept in there, should not plan
    ahead or doesn't look like running out. Upstairs bathoom has a free-standing metal toilet paper holder: the roll for use hangs at the top, the spare rolls stack underneath. Run out of paper and it's your
    own fault as in plain sight!

    The thing is, if you have cats, you had better hide that toilet paper
    real well. Otherwise, the cat will unroll and/or shred it to pieces!!

    But, it's not fun when you're on the throne, and the lights go
    out. :P

    <chuckle> No! LIS some time back, here have a couple of plug-in
    emergency lights, a few 'regular' lights powered by various UPSs. No emergency lighting in the bathrooms; have taken showers by lantern
    light after the fact (power had gone out).

    It's even worse at night. While living alone is where you can poop with
    the door open, if I have the door to the shower area open, during the day, light comes in to help...but it's obviously not the case at night. The
    light in the shower area has gone out, and I don't have the means to
    replace it.

    Your chill may also have been a reaction to healing from the hernia surgery. If you're cold and putting on a sweater, etc., doesn't work, furnace it is!

    Not sure. But, my internal thermometer is screwed up, anyway.

    Next week here is supposed to be cooler than average, IIRC. "It is
    what it is". In summer the house tends to get hot in the evening even though cooling off outside, so sometimes it's in the 80's outside and
    we have the windows open or otherise cool inside; might be 70's or even 60's outside, getting into the 80's inside, so flip on the air!

    It's getting near 90 for highs and in the 60s for lows...but temperatures
    are slowly rising.

    The whole thing has a bunch of new's -- sure, have been strikes with a segment of the workforce out, but never to this extent.

    This makes the Depression of 1929 look tame.

    Off-hand not sure what stage/step/level Iowa and Illinois are at.
    Things are more or less in a state of flux as numbers dictate. Even if officially announced an all-clear I'm going to maintain caution for a while.

    Same here. But, I doubt we'll ever be back to what it was like before COVID-19.

    Update: The noon news stated Iowa is removing the 50% capacity
    limitations for restaurants, and several other sites effective today
    (Friday June 12). They did not mention what's going on on the
    Illinois side. The hospitals are allowing one adult visitor per
    patient. two for end-of-life and births.

    I pray I don't have to go back for medical stuff again until my next colonoscopy in April.


    I'm curious as to what will happen in the Fall when the television
    season traditionally starts up again?
    Reruns of reruns?? :P

    Some could be worthwhile!

    Remember the I Love Lucy episode, where she was a cookie plant worker,
    and started having to eat all of them, as the deal was moving too fast
    for her?? <G>

    ... "The Lawrence Welk Show" premiered on ABC-TV on July 2, 1955.
    I love watching ragtime pianist JoAnn Castle.

    So a rerun on other than PBS would be of interest!

    I think YouTube has many of those shows.

    Daryl

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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Tue Jun 16 01:41:36 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 06-Jun-2020 10:32 <=-

    -- supply looked pretty good -- still not at full stock but definitely
    not almost bare like several weeks ago. Still signage for limit of
    one.
    The limits probably do help maintain the reasonable supply... :)
    Probably, and unless buying for a family of ten with diarrhea one
    doesn't need more than one multi-pack at a time.
    And one could always get the 20-pack or the 36-pack (depending on
    the store)... ;)
    True: quite sure a large family would have been buying the 20- or 36-
    (or more!) packs prior to the shortage. Of course a potential problem
    of timing: going to purchase during the shopping trip planned for just after the shortage-hoarding hit. "Four pack? We have that many bathrooms!"

    They would have had to hit more than one store, I guess... or go
    multiple times to get past the limits.... thankfully that now seems to
    be behind us again, though... :)

    There is a possibility: virus hitchhiking on a breeze from opening the
    garage door or maybe even the heating system. So I'm thinking a
    thorough cleaning when returning -- probably somehow isolated from the
    parking lot where the other trucks have been cleaned -- and a touch-up
    in the morning.
    Not that the touch-up is a bad thing, but I think the hitchhiking
    viruses aren't all that likely....
    I'm thinking also not too likely. Still, because of the high level
    of unknown about COVID-19 it seems the better safe than sorry rule
    applies.
    There's been probably more than enough of that better safe than
    sorry reasoning, though....
    Right: too-clean hasn't caused a problem. Plus if one sees the
    cleaning being done or does it themselves then knows it's clean. Technically may have been cleaned much more thoroughly before, but seeing/doing the cleaning is a psychological boost.

    There is that, I suppose... ;)

    As I said in earlier messages, we did break that record, with 92ø,
    then another 90 degree day, and then a couple more in the high 80s
    before becoming unseasonably cool for a few days, in the 60s... Now
    we're back in the mid-80s for a couple of days... tomorrow is
    supposed to be only mid 70s, and Sunday only 66ø... but I'd rather
    that than the heat...
    66ø?! Get the sweaters on!! We've been in the middle and upper 80's lately. They're talking about hitting 90ø today (Saturday June 6th)
    and somewhere in the low 90's on Monday -- nothing significant about
    next Monday except that's when we're supposed to be getting the roof replaced (hail storm damaged). Wednesday and Thursday they forecast
    rain from the remnants of (Tropical Storm) Cristobal. Roof isn't
    leaking, just want to get it done. And maybe a little emphasis because 'everyone' around here has been or having their roof redone from the
    same storm.

    THe hail was an equal opportunity destroyer, after all... ;)

    <TV scanning with a repeater station>
    Sort of along those lines we've bene watching the Teachers Tournament
    on _Jeopardy!_ -- that was taped last February (!) -- three or four
    months ago. The 'big deal' on that bit of trivia (they put up an
    overlay announcing the detail) is there is an audience - if current
    would not be an audience.

    Gives an clue how far in advance these shows are taped.... ;)

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Mon Jun 15 17:34:00 2020

    Hi Daryl!

    In the first floor batheroom there's a small wooden storage cabinet and
    a 'emergency' roll of toilet paper is kept in there, should not plan
    ahead or doesn't look like running out. Upstairs bathoom has a free-standing metal toilet paper holder: the roll for use hangs at the top, the spare rolls stack underneath. Run out of paper and it's your
    own fault as in plain sight!
    The thing is, if you have cats, you had better hide that toilet
    paper real well. Otherwise, the cat will unroll and/or shred it
    to pieces!!

    Because it's a fun thing to do! My Lhasa Apso (RIP) found out it as fun
    to slide on the newspaper: she'd get a running start, jump on a section,
    and wheee!


    But, it's not fun when you're on the throne, and the lights go
    out. :P
    <chuckle> No! LIS some time back, here have a couple of plug-in
    emergency lights, a few 'regular' lights powered by various UPSs. No emergency lighting in the bathrooms; have taken showers by lantern
    light after the fact (power had gone out).
    It's even worse at night. While living alone is where you can
    poop with the door open, if I have the door to the shower area
    open, during the day, light comes in to help...but it's obviously
    not the case at night. The light in the shower area has gone out,
    and I don't have the means to replace it.

    Neither bathroom here has a window but like yours during the day there's
    enough light coming in. If no one around I will urinate with the door
    open, but for whatever reason it just doesn't seem right to 'go potty'
    with the door open. Just another personal quirk!



    Your chill may also have been a reaction to healing from the hernia surgery. If you're cold and putting on a sweater, etc., doesn't work, furnace it is!
    Not sure. But, my internal thermometer is screwed up, anyway.

    Should have had that checked while they were inside repairing the
    hernia. ...Oh, it's not a literal internal thermostat! (I get sooo
    confused some times!)



    It's getting near 90 for highs and in the 60s for lows...but temperatures are slowly rising.

    Summertime, an' the livin' is ea-seeee!



    The whole thing has a bunch of new's -- sure, have been strikes with a segment of the workforce out, but never to this extent.
    This makes the Depression of 1929 look tame.

    It is an interesting time. In some ways not as bad as the Great
    Depression, in others a lot worse. (I'm glad I'm retired and don't have
    to worry about a paycheck - as long as the IRA, Social Security and
    pension keep paying!)



    Off-hand not sure what stage/step/level Iowa and Illinois are at.
    Things are more or less in a state of flux as numbers dictate. Even if officially announced an all-clear I'm going to maintain caution for a while.
    Same here. But, I doubt we'll ever be back to what it was like
    before COVID-19.

    Im thinking towards but not like before COVID-19. In some ways for the better: some people, stores, restaurants, etc., were getting a bit sloppy
    in cleanliness. As for the economy in general, I think it will take a
    bit for recovery, though sections having problems seem to be countered
    with new technolgy counterbalancing.


    Update: The noon news stated Iowa is removing the 50% capacity
    limitations for restaurants, and several other sites effective today
    (Friday June 12). They did not mention what's going on on the
    Illinois side. The hospitals are allowing one adult visitor per
    patient. two for end-of-life and births.
    I pray I don't have to go back for medical stuff again until my
    next colonoscopy in April.

    I never was that thrilled about going to the hospital one way or
    another! Glad they're there, of course.


    I'm curious as to what will happen in the Fall when the television
    season traditionally starts up again?
    Reruns of reruns?? :P
    Some could be worthwhile!
    Remember the I Love Lucy episode, where she was a cookie plant
    worker, and started having to eat all of them, as the deal was
    moving too fast for her?? <G>

    I'm thinking it was chocolate candy on an assembly line.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnbNcQlzV-4 (They must have uploaded
    via VCR: resolution is 240!)


    ... "The Lawrence Welk Show" premiered on ABC-TV on July 2, 1955.
    I love watching ragtime pianist JoAnn Castle.
    So a rerun on other than PBS would be of interest!
    I think YouTube has many of those shows.

    Probably so; wasn't my type of music generally; there are probbaly a few
    tunes I'd thumb-up. If someone wanted to watch I'd not belly-ache.


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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Tue Jun 16 10:27:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    -- supply looked pretty good -- still not at full stock but definitely
    not almost bare like several weeks ago. Still signage for limit of
    one.
    The limits probably do help maintain the reasonable supply... :)
    Probably, and unless buying for a family of ten with diarrhea one
    doesn't need more than one multi-pack at a time.
    And one could always get the 20-pack or the 36-pack (depending on
    the store)... ;)
    True: quite sure a large family would have been buying the 20- or 36-
    (or more!) packs prior to the shortage. Of course a potential problem
    of timing: going to purchase during the shopping trip planned for just after the shortage-hoarding hit. "Four pack? We have that many bathrooms!"
    They would have had to hit more than one store, I guess... or go
    multiple times to get past the limits.... thankfully that now
    seems to be behind us again, though... :)

    True and true. If had cash could have given the few dollars to each
    family member and they could have gone through to make the 'necessary'
    indivual purchases. Passing back the credit card might be a little
    obvious, but so would a 6-year old buying something besides candy or a
    toy. (As a cashier I would have let the credit card passing go through,
    unless prohibited by some company rule. When I was working there was a promotion to get a [forgot dollar amount] gift card with a $100 purchase [whatever the qualifiers were]. I was helping a customer in Luggage,
    she bought three $100+ suitcases. I ended up ringing her out; rang the
    three suitcases, so $300+, dawned on me could maybe ring them up
    separately so could get three gift cards -- asked her if she wanted me
    to try and warned her the credit card might flag the repeated
    same-dollar purchases as well as the gift card might flag. She agreed
    we could try, I voided the original three item sale, tried the
    individual sales -- all went through, so she got three gift cards
    instead of just the one. She was a happy customer.)



    As I said in earlier messages, we did break that record, with 92ø,
    then another 90 degree day, and then a couple more in the high 80s
    before becoming unseasonably cool for a few days, in the 60s... Now
    we're back in the mid-80s for a couple of days... tomorrow is
    supposed to be only mid 70s, and Sunday only 66ø... but I'd rather
    that than the heat...
    66ø?! Get the sweaters on!! We've been in the middle and upper 80's lately. They're talking about hitting 90ø today (Saturday June 6th)
    and somewhere in the low 90's on Monday -- nothing significant about
    next Monday except that's when we're supposed to be getting the roof replaced (hail storm damaged). Wednesday and Thursday they forecast
    rain from the remnants of (Tropical Storm) Cristobal. Roof isn't
    leaking, just want to get it done. And maybe a little emphasis because 'everyone' around here has been or having their roof redone from the
    same storm.
    THe hail was an equal opportunity destroyer, after all... ;)

    Around here seemed to be! The only homes that seemed to escape needing
    a re-roof is if the roof went east-west instead of north-south.



    <TV scanning with a repeater station>
    Sort of along those lines we've bene watching the Teachers Tournament
    on _Jeopardy!_ -- that was taped last February (!) -- three or four
    months ago. The 'big deal' on that bit of trivia (they put up an
    overlay announcing the detail) is there is an audience - if current
    would not be an audience.
    Gives an clue how far in advance these shows are taped.... ;)

    Some of the summer shows are on now and so they must have been recorded
    several months ago.

    Sort of possibly figured out Jeopardy!'s reason for taping so early: in
    the past have done tours like to the Galapagos Islands so 'obviously'
    not doing the studio stuff then.


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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Wed Jun 24 16:10:38 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 16-Jun-2020 10:27 <=-

    one could get the 20-pack or the 36-pack (depending on the store)...
    True: quite sure a large family would have been buying the 20- or 36-
    (or more!) packs prior to the shortage. Of course a potential problem
    of timing: going to purchase during the shopping trip planned for just
    after the shortage-hoarding hit. "Four pack? We have that many
    bathrooms!"
    They would have had to hit more than one store, I guess... or go
    multiple times to get past the limits.... thankfully that now seems to
    be behind us again, though... :)
    True and true. If had cash could have given the few dollars to each family member and they could have gone through to make the 'necessary' individual purchases. Passing back the credit card might be a little obvious, but so would a 6-year old buying something besides candy or a toy.

    Kids grow up fast in crisis situations...? ;) One could also set
    things up as separate orders (as we've done when buying for other
    people), which could work within reason... ;)

    (As a cashier I would have let the credit card passing go
    through, unless prohibited by some company rule. When I was working
    there was a promotion to get a [forgot dollar amount] gift card with a $100 purchase [whatever the qualifiers were]. I was helping a customer
    in Luggage, she bought three $100+ suitcases. I ended up ringing her
    out; rang the three suitcases, so $300+, dawned on me could maybe ring them up separately so could get three gift cards -- asked her if she wanted me to try and warned her the credit card might flag the repeated same-dollar purchases as well as the gift card might flag. She agreed
    we could try, I voided the original three item sale, tried the
    individual sales -- all went through, so she got three gift cards
    instead of just the one. She was a happy customer.)

    That was a nice fortuitous situation... :)

    They're talking about hitting 90ø today (Saturday June 6th) and
    somewhere in the low 90's on Monday -- nothing significant about next
    Monday except that's when we're supposed to be getting the roof replaced
    (hail storm damaged). Wednesday and Thursday they forecast rain from
    the remnants of (Tropical Storm) Cristobal. Roof isn't leaking, just
    want to get it done. And maybe a little emphasis because 'everyone'
    around here has been or having their roof redone from the same storm.
    The hail was an equal opportunity destroyer, after all... ;)
    Around here seemed to be! The only homes that seemed to escape
    needing a re-roof is if the roof went east-west instead of north-south.

    So the storm hit those roofs differently...

    Sort of along those lines we've been watching the Teachers Tournament
    on _Jeopardy!_ -- that was taped last February (!) -- three or four
    months ago. The 'big deal' on that bit of trivia (they put up an
    overlay announcing the detail) is there is an audience - if current
    would not be an audience.
    Gives an clue how far in advance these shows are taped.... ;)
    Some of the summer shows are on now and so they must have been
    recorded several months ago.
    Sort of possibly figured out Jeopardy!'s reason for taping so early:
    in the past have done tours like to the Galapagos Islands so
    'obviously' not doing the studio stuff then.

    As I understand it, there usually is a concentrated time of taping a
    whole season of shows.... one right after another all within a day or a
    few days...

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Fri Jun 26 15:53:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    one could get the 20-pack or the 36-pack (depending on the store)...
    True: quite sure a large family would have been buying the 20- or 36-
    (or more!) packs prior to the shortage. Of course a potential problem
    of timing: going to purchase during the shopping trip planned for just
    after the shortage-hoarding hit. "Four pack? We have that many
    bathrooms!"
    They would have had to hit more than one store, I guess... or go
    multiple times to get past the limits.... thankfully that now seems to
    be behind us again, though... :)
    True and true. If had cash could have given the few dollars to each family member and they could have gone through to make the 'necessary' individual purchases. Passing back the credit card might be a little obvious, but so would a 6-year old buying something besides candy or a toy.
    Kids grow up fast in crisis situations...? ;) One could also
    set things up as separate orders (as we've done when buying for
    other people), which could work within reason... ;)

    Yes and yes. Might be a little obvious one was trying to circumvent the limitation if only the toilet paper was being rung up separately -- so
    on TP with eggs and milk, another TP with bread.... Just don't pull
    randomly from the cart, at least make it look like there are separate
    lists! <g>


    (As a cashier I would have let the credit card passing go
    through, unless prohibited by some company rule. When I was working
    there was a promotion to get a [forgot dollar amount] gift card with a $100 purchase [whatever the qualifiers were]. I was helping a customer
    in Luggage, she bought three $100+ suitcases. I ended up ringing her
    out; rang the three suitcases, so $300+, dawned on me could maybe ring them up separately so could get three gift cards -- asked her if she wanted me to try and warned her the credit card might flag the repeated same-dollar purchases as well as the gift card might flag. She agreed
    we could try, I voided the original three item sale, tried the
    individual sales -- all went through, so she got three gift cards
    instead of just the one. She was a happy customer.)
    That was a nice fortuitous situation... :)

    Yes. :) LIS, I did make sure she understood there was a possibility the
    system could deny and I couldn't override. (CYA!)


    They're talking about hitting 90ø today (Saturday June 6th) and
    somewhere in the low 90's on Monday -- nothing significant about next
    Monday except that's when we're supposed to be getting the roof replaced
    (hail storm damaged). Wednesday and Thursday they forecast rain from
    the remnants of (Tropical Storm) Cristobal. Roof isn't leaking, just
    want to get it done. And maybe a little emphasis because 'everyone'
    around here has been or having their roof redone from the same storm.
    The hail was an equal opportunity destroyer, after all... ;)
    Around here seemed to be! The only homes that seemed to escape
    needing a re-roof is if the roof went east-west instead of north-south.
    So the storm hit those roofs differently...

    Seems to have. Does make some sense: hail hitting the westward-facing
    roof straight-on (would sail over the eastward). North- and southfacing
    roofs the hail would have hit but maybe more like a rock skipping over
    water.

    No updates for the remainder of the repair here.


    Sort of along those lines we've been watching the Teachers Tournament
    on _Jeopardy!_ -- that was taped last February (!) -- three or four
    months ago. The 'big deal' on that bit of trivia (they put up an
    overlay announcing the detail) is there is an audience - if current
    would not be an audience.
    Gives an clue how far in advance these shows are taped.... ;)
    Some of the summer shows are on now and so they must have been
    recorded several months ago.
    Sort of possibly figured out Jeopardy!'s reason for taping so early:
    in the past have done tours like to the Galapagos Islands so
    'obviously' not doing the studio stuff then.
    As I understand it, there usually is a concentrated time of
    taping a whole season of shows.... one right after another all
    within a day or a few days...

    Yes -- and for game shows makes sense to do several shows in one day
    while the crew is there, studio set up, etc. Current Jeopardy! is
    showing reruns of how the more winning contestants got to where their
    final score was obtained. Had read where one of the considerations was
    taping the show without an audience. With Jeopardy! the TV viewer is
    usually unaware there even is an audience (though sometimes they laugh
    or shown), I'm thinking at least let the family and friends of the contestants be there, spread out.


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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Thu Jul 2 18:29:30 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 26-Jun-2020 15:53 <=-

    They would have had to hit more than one store, I guess... or go
    multiple times to get past the limits.... thankfully that now seems
    to be behind us again, though... :)
    True and true. If had cash could have given the few dollars to each
    family member and they could have gone through to make the 'necessary'
    individual purchases. Passing back the credit card might be a little
    obvious, but so would a 6-year old buying something besides candy or a
    toy.
    Kids grow up fast in crisis situations...? ;) One could also set
    things up as separate orders (as we've done when buying for other
    people), which could work within reason... ;)
    Yes and yes. Might be a little obvious one was trying to circumvent
    the limitation if only the toilet paper was being rung up separately --
    so on TP with eggs and milk, another TP with bread....

    And a large family would have plenty of things they were buying as well,
    to portion out... :)

    Just don't pull randomly from the cart, at least make it look like
    there are separate lists! <g>

    In that case, it should be one dozen eggs and bread and a gallon of milk
    with one pack TP, another gallon milk and another dozen eggs with the
    next pack of TP.... etc... Pulling randomly might not be too obvious, actually, though... :)

    (As a cashier I would have let the credit card passing go
    through, unless prohibited by some company rule. When I was working
    there was a promotion to get a [forgot dollar amount] gift card with a
    $100 purchase [whatever the qualifiers were]. I was helping a customer
    in Luggage, she bought three $100+ suitcases. I ended up ringing her
    out; rang the three suitcases, so $300+, dawned on me could maybe ring
    them up separately so could get three gift cards -- asked her if she
    wanted me to try and warned her the credit card might flag the repeated
    same-dollar purchases as well as the gift card might flag. She agreed
    we could try, I voided the original three item sale, tried the
    individual sales -- all went through, so she got three gift cards
    instead of just the one. She was a happy customer.)
    That was a nice fortuitous situation... :)
    Yes. :) LIS, I did make sure she understood there was a possibility
    the system could deny and I couldn't override. (CYA!)

    Right... but as it happened, it worked out fine after all... :)

    The hail was an equal opportunity destroyer, after all... ;)
    Around here seemed to be! The only homes that seemed to escape
    needing a re-roof is if the roof went east-west instead of north-south.
    So the storm hit those roofs differently...
    Seems to have. Does make some sense: hail hitting the westward-facing
    roof straight-on (would sail over the eastward). North- and
    southfacing roofs the hail would have hit but maybe more like a rock
    skipping over water.
    No updates for the remainder of the repair here.

    Eventually....

    Sort of along those lines we've been watching the Teachers Tournament
    on _Jeopardy!_ -- that was taped last February (!) -- three or four
    months ago. The 'big deal' on that bit of trivia (they put up an
    overlay announcing the detail) is there is an audience - if current
    would not be an audience.
    Gives an clue how far in advance these shows are taped.... ;)
    Some of the summer shows are on now and so they must have been
    recorded several months ago.
    Sort of possibly figured out Jeopardy!'s reason for taping so early:
    in the past have done tours like to the Galapagos Islands so
    'obviously' not doing the studio stuff then.
    As I understand it, there usually is a concentrated time of taping a
    whole season of shows.... one right after another all within a day
    or a few days...
    Yes -- and for game shows makes sense to do several shows in one day
    while the crew is there, studio set up, etc. Current Jeopardy! is
    showing reruns of how the more winning contestants got to where their final score was obtained. Had read where one of the considerations
    was taping the show without an audience. With Jeopardy! the TV viewer
    is usually unaware there even is an audience (though sometimes they
    laugh or shown), I'm thinking at least let the family and friends of
    the contestants be there, spread out.

    Would seem reasonable to me... or at least some group of those...

    ... Be sure to finish speaking before your audience has finished listening.

    A rule for lecturers in general... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Fri Jul 3 08:35:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    They would have had to hit more than one store, I guess... or go
    multiple times to get past the limits.... thankfully that now seems
    to be behind us again, though... :)
    True and true. If had cash could have given the few dollars to each
    family member and they could have gone through to make the 'necessary'
    individual purchases. Passing back the credit card might be a little
    obvious, but so would a 6-year old buying something besides candy or a
    toy.
    Kids grow up fast in crisis situations...? ;) One could also set
    things up as separate orders (as we've done when buying for other
    people), which could work within reason... ;)
    Yes and yes. Might be a little obvious one was trying to circumvent
    the limitation if only the toilet paper was being rung up separately --
    so on TP with eggs and milk, another TP with bread....
    And a large family would have plenty of things they were buying
    as well, to portion out... :)

    That's true. Might go through a gallon of milk per day, or every other
    day; head of lettuce for salad... I'm trying to visualize the Brady
    Bunch (old TV show) when coming home from shopping.


    Just don't pull randomly from the cart, at least make it look like
    there are separate lists! <g>
    In that case, it should be one dozen eggs and bread and a gallon
    of milk with one pack TP, another gallon milk and another dozen
    eggs with the next pack of TP.... etc... Pulling randomly might
    not be too obvious, actually, though... :)

    If everyone needs toilet paper with every order they also need a new
    cookbook! <g>



    (As a cashier I would have let the credit card passing go
    through, unless prohibited by some company rule. When I was working
    there was a promotion to get a [forgot dollar amount] gift card with a
    $100 purchase [whatever the qualifiers were]. I was helping a customer
    in Luggage, she bought three $100+ suitcases. I ended up ringing her
    out; rang the three suitcases, so $300+, dawned on me could maybe ring
    them up separately so could get three gift cards -- asked her if she
    wanted me to try and warned her the credit card might flag the repeated
    same-dollar purchases as well as the gift card might flag. She agreed
    we could try, I voided the original three item sale, tried the
    individual sales -- all went through, so she got three gift cards
    instead of just the one. She was a happy customer.)
    That was a nice fortuitous situation... :)
    Yes. :) LIS, I did make sure she understood there was a possibility
    the system could deny and I couldn't override. (CYA!)
    Right... but as it happened, it worked out fine after all... :)

    Yup! :)



    Sort of along those lines we've been watching the Teachers Tournament
    on _Jeopardy!_ -- that was taped last February (!) -- three or four
    months ago. The 'big deal' on that bit of trivia (they put up an
    overlay announcing the detail) is there is an audience - if current
    would not be an audience.
    Gives an clue how far in advance these shows are taped.... ;)
    Some of the summer shows are on now and so they must have been
    recorded several months ago.
    Sort of possibly figured out Jeopardy!'s reason for taping so early:
    in the past have done tours like to the Galapagos Islands so
    'obviously' not doing the studio stuff then.
    As I understand it, there usually is a concentrated time of taping a
    whole season of shows.... one right after another all within a day
    or a few days...
    Yes -- and for game shows makes sense to do several shows in one day
    while the crew is there, studio set up, etc. Current Jeopardy! is
    showing reruns of how the more winning contestants got to where their final score was obtained. Had read where one of the considerations
    was taping the show without an audience. With Jeopardy! the TV viewer
    is usually unaware there even is an audience (though sometimes they
    laugh or shown), I'm thinking at least let the family and friends of
    the contestants be there, spread out.
    Would seem reasonable to me... or at least some group of those...

    To me also. Probably some logistical issues and so easier to have no
    audience at all, or they're just waiting things out until return to a
    version of normal again.

    I know you don't/rarely watch TV but for those of us who do I'm thinking
    the Fall season might have a bunch of failed to make it initially shows
    being released to fill the time slots. ...Might be able to see some of
    those movies we've been intending to watch! (Wonder if the VHS still
    works?!)


    ... Be sure to finish speaking before your audience has finished listening.
    A rule for lecturers in general... :)

    Especially class when the bell rings!


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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Mon Jul 20 00:25:06 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 03-Jul-2020 08:35 <=-

    [stretching limits]
    One could also set things up as separate orders (as we've done when
    buying for other people), which could work within reason... ;)
    Yes and yes. Might be a little obvious one was trying to circumvent
    the limitation if only the toilet paper was being rung up separately --
    so one TP with eggs and milk, another TP with bread....
    And a large family would have plenty of things they were buying as
    well, to portion out... :)
    That's true. Might go through a gallon of milk per day, or every
    other day; head of lettuce for salad... I'm trying to visualize the
    Brady Bunch (old TV show) when coming home from shopping.

    Yes, I know the Brady Bunch... ;) And they only had six kids... ;) I
    was one of eight... <G> We easily went through a gallon or more of milk daily... (which was why they started doing the 'funny milk', instant dry
    skim milk, to make the whole milk go farther)...

    Just don't pull randomly from the cart, at least make it look like
    there are separate lists! <g>
    In that case, it should be one dozen eggs and bread and a gallon of
    milk with one pack TP, another gallon milk and another dozen eggs
    with the next pack of TP.... etc... Pulling randomly might not be
    too obvious, actually, though... :)
    If everyone needs toilet paper with every order they also need a new cookbook! <g>

    Not if it really was four different family units... :)

    Gives an clue how far in advance these shows are taped.... ;)
    Some of the summer shows are on now and so they must have been
    recorded several months ago.
    Sort of possibly figured out Jeopardy!'s reason for taping so early:
    in the past have done tours like to the Galapagos Islands so
    'obviously' not doing the studio stuff then.
    As I understand it, there usually is a concentrated time of taping a
    whole season of shows.... one right after another all within a day
    or a few days...
    Yes -- and for game shows makes sense to do several shows in one day
    while the crew is there, studio set up, etc. Current Jeopardy! is
    showing reruns of how the more winning contestants got to where their
    final score was obtained. Had read where one of the considerations
    was taping the show without an audience. With Jeopardy! the TV viewer
    is usually unaware there even is an audience (though sometimes they
    laugh or shown), I'm thinking at least let the family and friends of
    the contestants be there, spread out.
    Would seem reasonable to me... or at least some group of those...
    To me also. Probably some logistical issues and so easier to have no audience at all, or they're just waiting things out until return to a version of normal again.

    If they're considered a non-essential business, it would take longer to
    get going again, too....

    I know you don't/rarely watch TV but for those of us who do I'm
    thinking the Fall season might have a bunch of failed to make it
    initially shows being released to fill the time slots. ...Might be
    able to see some of those movies we've been intending to watch!
    (Wonder if the VHS still works?!)

    I'm sure it will be interesting to see how things play out.... :)

    ... Be sure to finish speaking before your audience has finished
    listening.
    A rule for lecturers in general... :)
    Especially class when the bell rings!

    They are supposed to finish before the last bell rings, anyway... ;)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Mon Jul 20 09:11:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    [stretching limits]
    One could also set things up as separate orders (as we've done when
    buying for other people), which could work within reason... ;)
    Yes and yes. Might be a little obvious one was trying to circumvent
    the limitation if only the toilet paper was being rung up separately --
    so one TP with eggs and milk, another TP with bread....
    And a large family would have plenty of things they were buying as
    well, to portion out... :)
    That's true. Might go through a gallon of milk per day, or every
    other day; head of lettuce for salad... I'm trying to visualize the
    Brady Bunch (old TV show) when coming home from shopping.
    Yes, I know the Brady Bunch... ;) And they only had six kids...
    ;) I was one of eight... <G> We easily went through a gallon or
    more of milk daily... (which was why they started doing the
    'funny milk', instant dry skim milk, to make the whole milk go
    farther)...

    Yes -- a little "Milk Helper", "Cereal Helper", "Helper Helper" would be
    - ah - helpful! LIS some time back, I added water to the soy and rice
    milk I was using for a while to make it go further because of the price.



    Gives an clue how far in advance these shows are taped.... ;)
    Some of the summer shows are on now and so they must have been
    recorded several months ago.
    Sort of possibly figured out Jeopardy!'s reason for taping so early:
    in the past have done tours like to the Galapagos Islands so
    'obviously' not doing the studio stuff then.
    As I understand it, there usually is a concentrated time of taping a
    whole season of shows.... one right after another all within a day
    or a few days...
    Yes -- and for game shows makes sense to do several shows in one day
    while the crew is there, studio set up, etc. Current Jeopardy! is
    showing reruns of how the more winning contestants got to where their
    final score was obtained. Had read where one of the considerations
    was taping the show without an audience. With Jeopardy! the TV viewer
    is usually unaware there even is an audience (though sometimes they
    laugh or shown), I'm thinking at least let the family and friends of
    the contestants be there, spread out.
    Would seem reasonable to me... or at least some group of those...
    To me also. Probably some logistical issues and so easier to have no audience at all, or they're just waiting things out until return to a version of normal again.
    If they're considered a non-essential business, it would take
    longer to get going again, too....

    True, though the way things are going in general audiences are going to
    be verboten for some time. And of course there's the problem with the
    number of various people required to create a show: not only the actors
    and their circles of family and friends but the hair stylists, makup
    artists, wardrobe designers and their insteraction with the actors, so
    add their circles of family and friends to the equation. Now add in the production crew....




    ... Be sure to finish speaking before your audience has finished
    listening.
    A rule for lecturers in general... :)
    Especially class when the bell rings!
    They are supposed to finish before the last bell rings, anyway...
    ;)

    Didn't always work out that way!


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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Tue Aug 25 08:49:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    Yes -- and for game shows makes sense to do several shows in one day
    while the crew is there, studio set up, etc. Current Jeopardy! is
    showing reruns of how the more winning contestants got to where their
    final score was obtained. Had read where one of the considerations
    was taping the show without an audience. With Jeopardy! the TV viewer
    is usually unaware there even is an audience (though sometimes they
    laugh or shown), I'm thinking at least let the family and friends of
    the contestants be there, spread out.
    Would seem reasonable to me... or at least some group of those...
    To me also. Probably some logistical issues and so easier to have no
    audience at all, or they're just waiting things out until return to a
    version of normal again.
    If they're considered a non-essential business, it would take longer
    to get going again, too....
    True, though the way things are going in general audiences are going
    to be verboten for some time.
    Quite likely...

    We're wondering how the shows themselves are going to be done: a lot of closeness normally. The fall season for the networks is going to be interesting: maybe a lot of reruns with new shows that didn't make the
    cut in other years. Might be time to get caught uo on those movies we
    have intended to watch!


    And of course there's the problem with
    the number of various people required to create a show: not only the actors and their circles of family and friends but the hair stylists, makeup artists, wardrobe designers and their interaction with the
    actors, so add their circles of family and friends to the equation.
    Now add in the production crew....
    But all that could be done with distancing, to a large extent....

    If they can do robotic surgery they can do robotic hair and makeup! <g>



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