Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 13-Aug-2019 10:24 <=-
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 29-Jun-2019 08:37 <=-
Replying at 9:20am on the 6th...
A little after 7:30 a.m. on August 13th...
We're quite stretched out here... now about 4:30 pm on August
24th... :)
Nope. Never did associate anything with that 91 days. ...Oh! 365
days divided by 4 is 91.25. So for one-quarter of the year we had been
flooded. Now makes sense! (To me "90 days" would have triggered
three months.)
Ah.... Yes, that makes sense... 90 days is usually what is usedYes. LIS in an earlier message, initially the news anchor's use of
for three months, but it's only an approximation, just like 30
days is for a month... 13 weeks is more accurate for a quarter
year, and that would be 91 days....
"91 days Monday" (something like that) initially didn't make sense.
Maybe because I was only half paying attention and missed the cue.
Once I figured it out some time later it made sense.
Or maybe he just figured that people would figure out where he
was coming from and hadn't given a cue... :) What was the final
tally of days at or above flood stage...?
And clean up is likely to continue for quite a while after the
River is back to normal....
Yes. Get the roads re-opened; LeClaire Park usually hosts most of the
4th of July entertainment but will not be ready this year so alterate
sites have been obtained. Downtown (and other flooded areas) still
cleaning - some probably into Fall if not longer. FEMA closed its
temporary site but is still accepting applications for assistance.
AIS, things are gradually getting back to normal... Good that FEMAProbably true. Thinking of the possibility of buckled walls and mold behind walls.
will still accept the applications, some things wouldn't really come
to light until one is able to start the cleanup....
Yup... among other things... :)
And I think I made mention the other day for the EagleCam the metal
box holding some of the remote networking/communications equipment had
it's front cover broken off - by what's left wasn't a flimsy unit. The
post stated either a floating log or falling branch probably hit.
Something that struck with some force....Definitely some force behind it. LIS somewhere, the webcams are back
up but I haven't seen any of the eagles. My guess is I just haven't looked at the right time. Looked a little earlier this morning and now one camera's display says something about expired in 2018 (last year)
and the other is displaying the currently empty nest -- early enough
they might be out getting their breakfast.
And maybe the eaglets are mature enough to have left the nest...?
... I put my schedule in my back pocket. Guess that's why I'm behind.
Nice story.... I presume you're sticking to it...? <G>
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 25-Aug-2019 09:46 <=-
Subject: flood stuff was: Vacation Time!
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 13-Aug-2019 10:24 <=-
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 29-Jun-2019 08:37 <=-
Replying at 9:20am on the 6th...
A little after 7:30 a.m. on August 13th...
We're quite stretched out here... now about 4:30 pm on AugustGetting close: 8:30 on August 25th!
24th... :)
And a little more stretched (but not all that bad) with it now
evening of August 30th... :)
90 days is usually what is used for three months, but it's only an
approximation, just like 30 days is for a month... 13 weeks is more
accurate for a quarter year, and that would be 91 days....
Yes. LIS in an earlier message, initially the news anchor's use of
"91 days Monday" (something like that) initially didn't make sense.
Maybe because I was only half paying attention and missed the cue.
Once I figured it out some time later it made sense.
Or maybe he just figured that people would figure out where he was96. As for the figuring it out, maybe, or there was a comment earlier
coming from and hadn't given a cue... :) What was the final tally of
days at or above flood stage...?
in the news which I hadn't paid attention to. At least finally made
sense to me.
Still quite impressive... I'm sure that people are hoping to not
have a repeat of this next year, hoever exciting it's been... ;)
AIS, things are gradually getting back to normal... Good that FEMA
will still accept the applications, some things wouldn't really come
to light until one is able to start the cleanup....
Probably true. Thinking of the possibility of buckled walls and mold
behind walls.
Yup... among other things... :)And LIS in an earlier set of messages, a couple/few businesses have decided to close permanently because can't afford to rebuild. Overall appears Downtown will recover, some quicker than others.
I guess for some, the flooding was the last straw... and
insurance and FEMA don't cover everything, just a good portion...
But it's good that overall the Downtown will recover... :)
LIS somewhere, the webcams are back
up but I haven't seen any of the eagles. My guess is I just haven't
looked at the right time. Looked a little earlier this morning and now
one camera's display says something about expired in 2018 (last year)
and the other is displaying the currently empty nest -- early enough
they might be out getting their breakfast.
And maybe the eaglets are mature enough to have left the nest...?Just checked: the webcams are back streaming live shots (yesterday
when I checked there was a message re: expired 2018) but nobody home.
At least the cameras are working again... :)
The last official post was almost a month ago:
Friday, July 19, 2019
Checking In
We are still working on repairs to our equipment and hope to get the cameras back online soon. I have not been to the nest so I don't
know if Windy and Storm are still hanging out or not. I am attaching
map images of the four we are still tracking. They are all north in Wisconsin/Minnesota and in both Ontario and Manitoba, Canada.
I wonder if the official person has had a chance to physically
check the location yet....
I've not seen (nor looked for) live location of the eagles.
Did they get a chance to put trackers on Windy and Storm....? Or
did the weather interfere there, too....
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 31-Aug-2019 08:45 <=-
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 25-Aug-2019 09:46 <=-
Subject: flood stuff was: Vacation Time!
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 13-Aug-2019 10:24 <=-
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 29-Jun-2019 08:37 <=-
Replying at 9:20am on the 6th...
A little after 7:30 a.m. on August 13th...
We're quite stretched out here... now about 4:30 pm on August
24th... :)
Getting close: 8:30 on August 25th!
And a little more stretched (but not all that bad) with it nowThat was only about twelve hours ago!
evening of August 30th... :)
Or maybe he just figured that people would figure out where he was
coming from and hadn't given a cue... :) What was the final tally of
days at or above flood stage...?
96. As for the figuring it out, maybe, or there was a comment earlier
in the news which I hadn't paid attention to. At least finally made
sense to me.
Still quite impressive... I'm sure that people are hoping to notWhile taking a row boat down 3rd St is unique I don't think Davenport plans to become the Venice of the U.S.!
have a repeat of this next year, hoever exciting it's been... ;)
AIS, things are gradually getting back to normal... Good that FEMA
will still accept the applications, some things wouldn't really come
to light until one is able to start the cleanup....
Probably true. Thinking of the possibility of buckled walls and mold
behind walls.
Yup... among other things... :)
And LIS in an earlier set of messages, a couple/few businesses have
decided to close permanently because can't afford to rebuild. Overall
appears Downtown will recover, some quicker than others.
I guess for some, the flooding was the last straw... and insuranceOverall, yes. LIS there were some casualties; hopefully their next business adventure will work out better.
and FEMA don't cover everything, just a good portion... But it's good
that overall the Downtown will recover... :)
And maybe the eaglets are mature enough to have left the nest...?
Just checked: the webcams are back streaming live shots (yesterday
when I checked there was a message re: expired 2018) but nobody home.
At least the cameras are working again... :)Yes. I didn't see any posts on the repair but would assume because of this year's problem the connection box has been moved to a higher position.
I wonder if the official person has had a chance to physicallyI'm guessing so. Appears the eaglets have been banded/have some sort
check the location yet....
of tracking device as there are maps to their location (at the time
near Duluth, MN).
Did they get a chance to put trackers on Windy and Storm....? OrThe trackers may have been installed late but was attached before they left the nest.
did the weather interfere there, too....
That works when both of us are on top of things... <G>
Unfortunately, just before leaving this time, I had a few days
where Real Life got in the way... <G> We'll see if I can catch up completely whilst away... not impossible, but might be a bit of a
stretch this time... ;)
Or maybe he just figured that people would figure out where he was
coming from and hadn't given a cue... :) What was the final tally of
days at or above flood stage...?
96. As for the figuring it out, maybe, or there was a comment earlier
in the news which I hadn't paid attention to. At least finally made
sense to me.
Still quite impressive... I'm sure that people are hoping to notWhile taking a row boat down 3rd St is unique I don't think Davenport plans to become the Venice of the U.S.!
have a repeat of this next year, hoever exciting it's been... ;)
Wasn't that much fun to do it regularly.... ;)
AIS, things are gradually getting back to normal... Good that FEMA
will still accept the applications, some things wouldn't really come
to light until one is able to start the cleanup....
Probably true. Thinking of the possibility of buckled walls and mold
behind walls.
Yup... among other things... :)
And LIS in an earlier set of messages, a couple/few businesses have
decided to close permanently because can't afford to rebuild. Overall
appears Downtown will recover, some quicker than others.
I guess for some, the flooding was the last straw... and insuranceOverall, yes. LIS there were some casualties; hopefully their next business adventure will work out better.
and FEMA don't cover everything, just a good portion... But it's good
that overall the Downtown will recover... :)
Or perhaps they'll find some other line to go after.... :)
Maybe even see it as being time to retire... :)
And maybe the eaglets are mature enough to have left the nest...?
Just checked: the webcams are back streaming live shots (yesterday
when I checked there was a message re: expired 2018) but nobody home.
At least the cameras are working again... :)Yes. I didn't see any posts on the repair but would assume because of this year's problem the connection box has been moved to a higher position.
That would at least make sense.... :)
I wonder if the official person has had a chance to physicallyI'm guessing so. Appears the eaglets have been banded/have some sort
check the location yet....
of tracking device as there are maps to their location (at the time
near Duluth, MN).
Sounds like they're off on their own, then.... :)
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 12-Sep-2019 15:45 <=-
That works when both of us are on top of things... <G> Unfortunately,If you do you do, else it'll just have to wait! LIS, it's supposed ot
just before leaving this time, I had a few days where Real Life got in
the way... <G> We'll see if I can catch up completely whilst away...
not impossible, but might be a bit of a stretch this time... ;)
be enjoyable, not a duty.
Still quite impressive... I'm sure that people are hoping to not
have a repeat of this next year, hoever exciting it's been... ;)
While taking a row boat down 3rd St is unique I don't think Davenport
plans to become the Venice of the U.S.!
Wasn't that much fun to do it regularly.... ;)No, though one could adapt. With River Drive closed the usual detour
was to use Locust St. (18th block from the River), or Kimberly Rd.
(37th block up) or 53rd St. (guess!) -- the way the roads are now
they're the only streets consistently going through plus able to handle heavier traffic; other streets will 'disappear' for a block or two and then restart -- fine for light traffic but not for thoroughfare
traffic.
As for the 'Venice option', would be interesting as a tourist
attraction but we don't have the history to make it logical. Well,
other than flooding. Suppose if they did go through with the concept would also include road revisions. I think River Drive was only
flooded for a few blocks beyond the downtown area, just traffic was rerouted miles before because of being able to get to the detour routes easily/conveniently. Elevate or otherwise protect a section, then
reroute around 'Venice- Davenport'. In the downtown area walkways and shuttles.... Probably better to stick with the floodwall and keep
things dry!
And LIS in an earlier set of messages, a couple/few businesses have
decided to close permanently because can't afford to rebuild. Overall
appears Downtown will recover, some quicker than others.
I guess for some, the flooding was the last straw... and insurance
and FEMA don't cover everything, just a good portion... But it's good
that overall the Downtown will recover... :)
Overall, yes. LIS there were some casualties; hopefully their next
business adventure will work out better.
Or perhaps they'll find some other line to go after... :) Maybe evenI don't recall a business doing that option; not saying it didn't
see it as being time to retire... :)
happen, just the few that did decide to give up were all very new.
Those businesses may or may not have been successful without the
flood.
activity at the nest. ... Post from a week ago: of the four eagles they're tracking (I'm guessing the two form this year and two a
previous year) three are in northern Wisconsin and one was up there and returned to the Quad Cities area (here). His tracking map indicated in
an area downriver from Arsenal Island (I'm upriver and the parents'
nest is a few miles further upriver).
Sounds like they're off on their own, then.... :)And doing well! :)
That works when both of us are on top of things... <G> Unfortunately,If you do you do, else it'll just have to wait! LIS, it's supposed ot
just before leaving this time, I had a few days where Real Life got in
the way... <G> We'll see if I can catch up completely whilst away...
not impossible, but might be a bit of a stretch this time... ;)
be enjoyable, not a duty.
I do like to not get too far behind, though...
Still quite impressive... I'm sure that people are hoping to not
have a repeat of this next year, hoever exciting it's been... ;)
While taking a row boat down 3rd St is unique I don't think Davenport
plans to become the Venice of the U.S.!
Wasn't that much fun to do it regularly.... ;)No, though one could adapt. With River Drive closed the usual detour
was to use Locust St. (18th block from the River), or Kimberly Rd.
(37th block up) or 53rd St. (guess!) -- the way the roads are now
they're the only streets consistently going through plus able to handle heavier traffic; other streets will 'disappear' for a block or two and then restart -- fine for light traffic but not for thoroughfare
traffic.
We have some streets like that, too... often because of train
tracks, or putting in expressways or similar... :)
As for the 'Venice option', would be interesting as a tourist
attraction but we don't have the history to make it logical. Well,
other than flooding. Suppose if they did go through with the concept would also include road revisions. I think River Drive was only
flooded for a few blocks beyond the downtown area, just traffic was rerouted miles before because of being able to get to the detour routes easily/conveniently. Elevate or otherwise protect a section, then
reroute around 'Venice- Davenport'. In the downtown area walkways and shuttles.... Probably better to stick with the floodwall and keep
things dry!
It's an intriging option all the same... ;) The Erie Canal used
to run right through downtown Rochester... when the Barge Canal
was put in, the Erie was drained and used first for a subway, and
then just as streets (part became part of one of the
expressways)... Now there are people arguing for replacing a
portion of the Erie Canal downtown as a tourist attraction... ;)
And LIS in an earlier set of messages, a couple/few businesses have
decided to close permanently because can't afford to rebuild. Overall
appears Downtown will recover, some quicker than others.
I guess for some, the flooding was the last straw... and insurance
and FEMA don't cover everything, just a good portion... But it's good
that overall the Downtown will recover... :)
Overall, yes. LIS there were some casualties; hopefully their next
business adventure will work out better.
Or perhaps they'll find some other line to go after... :) Maybe evenI don't recall a business doing that option; not saying it didn't
see it as being time to retire... :)
happen, just the few that did decide to give up were all very new.
Those businesses may or may not have been successful without the
flood.
Ah... possibly not quite well enough established before the
flooding to be able to weather it... :)
activity at the nest. ... Post from a week ago: of the four eagles they're tracking (I'm guessing the two form this year and two a
previous year) three are in northern Wisconsin and one was up there and returned to the Quad Cities area (here). His tracking map indicated in
an area downriver from Arsenal Island (I'm upriver and the parents'
nest is a few miles further upriver).
So possibly decided that your area was a nice place to settle
after all... :)
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 20-Sep-2019 09:02 <=-
That works when both of us are on top of things... <G> Unfortunately,
just before leaving this time, I had a few days where Real Life got in
the way... <G> We'll see if I can catch up completely whilst away...
not impossible, but might be a bit of a stretch this time... ;)
If you do you do, else it'll just have to wait! LIS, it's supposed ot
be enjoyable, not a duty.
I do like to not get too far behind, though...True. Helps when know we're talking about this year and not last
year!
Still quite impressive... I'm sure that people are hoping to not
have a repeat of this next year, however exciting it's been... ;)
While taking a row boat down 3rd St is unique I don't think Davenport
plans to become the Venice of the U.S.!
Wasn't that much fun to do it regularly.... ;)
No, though one could adapt. With River Drive closed the usual detour
was to use Locust St. (18th block from the River), or Kimberly Rd.
(37th block up) or 53rd St. (guess!) -- the way the roads are now
they're the only streets consistently going through plus able to handle
heavier traffic; other streets will 'disappear' for a block or two and
then restart -- fine for light traffic but not for thoroughfare
traffic.
We have some streets like that, too... often because of train tracks,Generally not the reason for the interruption here. Some have a
or putting in expressways or similar... :)
reason of a steep hill or ravine. Most seem to have no reason now but possibly in the past a small farm or large property. And there are a handful of streets which jog; almost like the Internet joke picture of
the bridge being constructed and the two halves don't align.
As for the 'Venice option', would be interesting as a tourist
attraction but we don't have the history to make it logical. Well,
other than flooding. Suppose if they did go through with the concept
would also include road revisions. I think River Drive was only
flooded for a few blocks beyond the downtown area, just traffic was
rerouted miles before because of being able to get to the detour routes
easily/conveniently. Elevate or otherwise protect a section, then
reroute around 'Venice- Davenport'. In the downtown area walkways and
shuttles.... Probably better to stick with the floodwall and keep
things dry!
It's an intriging option all the same... ;) The Erie Canal used toThey dig out for the canal then they fill it back in for the subway!
run right through downtown Rochester... when the Barge Canal was put
in, the Erie was drained and used first for a subway, and then just as
streets (part became part of one of the expressways)... Now there are
people arguing for replacing a portion of the Erie Canal downtown as a
tourist attraction... ;)
As for the tourist attraction, could see that. People watch the ships, barges, etc., go through the lock and dam system here. A history of
how the Canal was conceptualized and constructed and used could be interesting.
Overall, yes. LIS there were some casualties; hopefully their next
business adventure will work out better.
Or perhaps they'll find some other line to go after... :) Maybe even
see it as being time to retire... :)
I don't recall a business doing that option; not saying it didn't
happen, just the few that did decide to give up were all very new.
Those businesses may or may not have been successful without the
flood.
Ah... possibly not quite well enough established before the floodingAnd/or not having enough insurance or the proper kind of insurance to cover the costs of rebuilding.
to be able to weather it... :)
...This week there have been brief news blurbs on flood recovery, etc.
One popular new restaurant is not re-opening; I don't recall details
on why but apparently was popular with the anchor staff at the TV
station the way the conversation went. Some other stores/shops/ eateries/etc. are not reopening but their sites have been leased and
so replaced.
As for the floodwall, slowly moving and read where consultants
familiar with projects of this size will be called in.
activity at the nest. ... Post from a week ago: of the four eagles
they're tracking (I'm guessing the two form this year and two a
previous year) three are in northern Wisconsin and one was up there and
returned to the Quad Cities area (here). His tracking map indicated in
an area downriver from Arsenal Island (I'm upriver and the parents'
nest is a few miles further upriver).
So possibly decided that your area was a nice place to settle afterApparently! Don't know if the one young eagle would eventually take
all... :)
over his parents' nest - would think build his own and would be nice
if the new site was viewable. Guess just wait and find out!
Still quite impressive... I'm sure that people are hoping to not
have a repeat of this next year, however exciting it's been... ;)
While taking a row boat down 3rd St is unique I don't think Davenport
plans to become the Venice of the U.S.!
Wasn't that much fun to do it regularly.... ;)
No, though one could adapt. With River Drive closed the usual detour
was to use Locust St. (18th block from the River), or Kimberly Rd.
(37th block up) or 53rd St. (guess!) -- the way the roads are now
they're the only streets consistently going through plus able to handle
heavier traffic; other streets will 'disappear' for a block or two and
then restart -- fine for light traffic but not for thoroughfare
traffic.
We have some streets like that, too... often because of train tracks,Generally not the reason for the interruption here. Some have a
or putting in expressways or similar... :)
reason of a steep hill or ravine. Most seem to have no reason now but possibly in the past a small farm or large property. And there are a handful of streets which jog; almost like the Internet joke picture of
the bridge being constructed and the two halves don't align.
We've got the ravines and such too in places... and the
occasional jog in some streets as well... In Syracuse, there are
a few major streets that the name stays with the street as it
makes a right or left turn, and the straightaway has a new
name... probably history behind that, too... but it can catch a
visitor off guard for sure...
As for the 'Venice option', would be interesting as a tourist
attraction but we don't have the history to make it logical. Well,
other than flooding. Suppose if they did go through with the concept
would also include road revisions. I think River Drive was only
flooded for a few blocks beyond the downtown area, just traffic was
rerouted miles before because of being able to get to the detour routes
easily/conveniently. Elevate or otherwise protect a section, then
reroute around 'Venice- Davenport'. In the downtown area walkways and
shuttles.... Probably better to stick with the floodwall and keep
things dry!
It's an intriging option all the same... ;) The Erie Canal used toThey dig out for the canal then they fill it back in for the subway!
run right through downtown Rochester... when the Barge Canal was put
in, the Erie was drained and used first for a subway, and then just as
streets (part became part of one of the expressways)... Now there are
people arguing for replacing a portion of the Erie Canal downtown as a
tourist attraction... ;)
As for the tourist attraction, could see that. People watch the ships, barges, etc., go through the lock and dam system here. A history of
how the Canal was conceptualized and constructed and used could be interesting.
I don't think anything that extensive would be put in downtown
here... People can go down to the Barge Canal, still much in use,
to see how the locks and dams work... there are regular river
boat cruises here, in various parts of the system, too... Our
high school class did that twice for a reunion activity... a
dinner cruise... :)
...This week there have been brief news blurbs on flood recovery, etc.
One popular new restaurant is not re-opening; I don't recall details
on why but apparently was popular with the anchor staff at the TV
station the way the conversation went. Some other stores/shops/ eateries/etc. are not reopening but their sites have been leased and
so replaced.
So recovery is continuing apace... ;)
As for the floodwall, slowly moving and read where consultants
familiar with projects of this size will be called in.
So maybe something will be in place for the next flood season...
;)
activity at the nest. ... Post from a week ago: of the four eagles
they're tracking (I'm guessing the two form this year and two a
previous year) three are in northern Wisconsin and one was up there and
returned to the Quad Cities area (here). His tracking map indicated in
an area downriver from Arsenal Island (I'm upriver and the parents'
nest is a few miles further upriver).
So possibly decided that your area was a nice place to settle afterApparently! Don't know if the one young eagle would eventually take
all... :)
over his parents' nest - would think build his own and would be nice
if the new site was viewable. Guess just wait and find out!
Guess so... ;) Have to find a mate first, too....
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 25-Sep-2019 08:57 <=-
Generally not the reason for the interruption here. Some have a
reason of a steep hill or ravine. Most seem to have no reason now but
possibly in the past a small farm or large property. And there are a
handful of streets which jog; almost like the Internet joke picture of
the bridge being constructed and the two halves don't align.
We've got the ravines and such too in places... and the occasional jog
in some streets as well... In Syracuse, there are a few major streets
that the name stays with the street as it makes a right or left turn,
and the straightaway has a new name... probably history behind that,
too... but it can catch a visitor off guard for sure...
That could be a little confusing! Here Kimberly Rd. is generally
east- west from one end of Davenport to the other; gets into Bettendorf
and almost immediately takes a 90ø turn east down to the River. (?!)
No idea why -- like you mentioned there is probably a historic reason.
...If one continues straight from Davenport's Kimberly Rd. goes into Bettendorf's Spruce Hills Drive. It is hilly, maybe was a patch of
spruce woods originally?
As for the 'Venice option', would be interesting as a tourist
attraction but we don't have the history to make it logical. Well,
other than flooding. Suppose if they did go through with the concept
would also include road revisions. I think River Drive was only
flooded for a few blocks beyond the downtown area, just traffic was
rerouted miles before because of being able to get to the detour routes
easily/conveniently. Elevate or otherwise protect a section, then
reroute around 'Venice- Davenport'. In the downtown area walkways and
shuttles.... Probably better to stick with the floodwall and keep
things dry!
It's an intriging option all the same... ;) The Erie Canal used to
run right through downtown Rochester... when the Barge Canal was put
in, the Erie was drained and used first for a subway, and then just as
streets (part became part of one of the expressways)... Now there are
people arguing for replacing a portion of the Erie Canal downtown as a
tourist attraction... ;)
They dig out for the canal then they fill it back in for the subway!
As for the tourist attraction, could see that. People watch the ships,
barges, etc., go through the lock and dam system here. A history of
how the Canal was conceptualized and constructed and used could be
interesting.
I don't think anything that extensive would be put in downtown here...Was anyone suspicious of the 'fresh fish' dinner option?!
People can go down to the Barge Canal, still much in use, to see how
the locks and dams work... there are regular river boat cruises here,
in various parts of the system, too... Our high school class did that
twice for a reunion activity... a dinner cruise... :)
...This week there have been brief news blurbs on flood recovery, etc.
One popular new restaurant is not re-opening; I don't recall details
on why but apparently was popular with the anchor staff at the TV
station the way the conversation went. Some other stores/shops/
eateries/etc. are not reopening but their sites have been leased and
so replaced.
So recovery is continuing apace... ;)Yes. To me the smart thing to do would be to re-establish out of
areas of future potential flooding but then that single requirement
isn't always logically possible: moving inland a few additional blocks
and one is out of downtown and into residential. About a dozen blocks
up the hill one gets into another mostly business section but it's not with a 'downtown feel'.
As for the floodwall, slowly moving and read where consultants
familiar with projects of this size will be called in.
So maybe something will be in place for the next flood season... ;)Unfortunately not. Actually there is minor flooding going on
currently: the Mississippi and other local rivers are from close to to just above flood stage -- not enough to make it necessary to wade
through Downtown Davenport but some streets have been closed downriver.
activity at the nest. ... Post from a week ago: of the four eagles
they're tracking (I'm guessing the two form this year and two a
previous year) three are in northern Wisconsin and one was up there and
returned to the Quad Cities area (here). His tracking map indicated in
an area downriver from Arsenal Island (I'm upriver and the parents'
nest is a few miles further upriver).
So possibly decided that your area was a nice place to settle after
all... :)
Apparently! Don't know if the one young eagle would eventually take
over his parents' nest - would think build his own and would be nice
if the new site was viewable. Guess just wait and find out!
Guess so... ;) Have to find a mate first, too....True -- haven't read any comments on that.
Generally not the reason for the interruption here. Some have a
reason of a steep hill or ravine. Most seem to have no reason now but
possibly in the past a small farm or large property. And there are a
handful of streets which jog; almost like the Internet joke picture of
the bridge being constructed and the two halves don't align.
We've got the ravines and such too in places... and the occasional jog
in some streets as well... In Syracuse, there are a few major streets
that the name stays with the street as it makes a right or left turn,
and the straightaway has a new name... probably history behind that,
too... but it can catch a visitor off guard for sure...
That could be a little confusing! Here Kimberly Rd. is generallyWhich is the older municipality, Bettendorf or Davenport...?
east- west from one end of Davenport to the other; gets into Bettendorf
and almost immediately takes a 90ø turn east down to the River. (?!)
No idea why -- like you mentioned there is probably a historic reason.
Maybe it was the safest way to go down to the River, or there was
a particular dock there....
...If one continues straight from Davenport's Kimberly Rd. goes into Bettendorf's Spruce Hills Drive. It is hilly, maybe was a patch of
spruce woods originally?
I'd guess that Kimberly Rd was the original road, and when they
wanted to put in a road up the hill, it got the new name... and
might have been plenty of spruces there originally... or at the
end of the road... ;)
As for the 'Venice option', would be interesting as a tourist
attraction but we don't have the history to make it logical. Well,
other than flooding. Suppose if they did go through with the concept
would also include road revisions. I think River Drive was only
flooded for a few blocks beyond the downtown area, just traffic was
rerouted miles before because of being able to get to the detour routes
easily/conveniently. Elevate or otherwise protect a section, then
reroute around 'Venice- Davenport'. In the downtown area walkways and
shuttles.... Probably better to stick with the floodwall and keep
things dry!
It's an intriging option all the same... ;) The Erie Canal used to
run right through downtown Rochester... when the Barge Canal was put
in, the Erie was drained and used first for a subway, and then just as
streets (part became part of one of the expressways)... Now there are
people arguing for replacing a portion of the Erie Canal downtown as a
tourist attraction... ;)
They dig out for the canal then they fill it back in for the subway!
As for the tourist attraction, could see that. People watch the ships,
barges, etc., go through the lock and dam system here. A history of
how the Canal was conceptualized and constructed and used could be
interesting.
I don't think anything that extensive would be put in downtown here...Was anyone suspicious of the 'fresh fish' dinner option?!
People can go down to the Barge Canal, still much in use, to see how
the locks and dams work... there are regular river boat cruises here,
in various parts of the system, too... Our high school class did that
twice for a reunion activity... a dinner cruise... :)
;) I don't recall if we chose that as one of the options to be available.... ;) We did it for our 40th, to be a little
different, and then again for our 45th because it had been so
much fun... We did the Sam Patch one first, and then a slightly
larger one, on a different section of the canal, the second
time... :)
...This week there have been brief news blurbs on flood recovery, etc.
One popular new restaurant is not re-opening; I don't recall details
on why but apparently was popular with the anchor staff at the TV
station the way the conversation went. Some other stores/shops/
eateries/etc. are not reopening but their sites have been leased and
so replaced.
So recovery is continuing apace... ;)Yes. To me the smart thing to do would be to re-establish out of
areas of future potential flooding but then that single requirement
isn't always logically possible: moving inland a few additional blocks
and one is out of downtown and into residential. About a dozen blocks
up the hill one gets into another mostly business section but it's not with a 'downtown feel'.
I guess they'll just have to weigh the risk/benefits... Short of
moving the whole business section further from the River, I'd
guess they'd want to stay where the business is... :)
As for the floodwall, slowly moving and read where consultants
familiar with projects of this size will be called in.
So maybe something will be in place for the next flood season... ;)Unfortunately not. Actually there is minor flooding going on
currently: the Mississippi and other local rivers are from close to to just above flood stage -- not enough to make it necessary to wade
through Downtown Davenport but some streets have been closed downriver.
Just not so spectacular, so doesn't make the news.... Like the
ongoing flood risk anytime there's some wind and somewhat strong
winds along the Lake Ontario shoreline...
activity at the nest. ... Post from a week ago: of the four eagles
they're tracking (I'm guessing the two form this year and two a
previous year) three are in northern Wisconsin and one was up there and
returned to the Quad Cities area (here). His tracking map indicated in
an area downriver from Arsenal Island (I'm upriver and the parents'
nest is a few miles further upriver).
So possibly decided that your area was a nice place to settle after
all... :)
Apparently! Don't know if the one young eagle would eventually take
over his parents' nest - would think build his own and would be nice
if the new site was viewable. Guess just wait and find out!
Guess so... ;) Have to find a mate first, too....True -- haven't read any comments on that.
So, yes, just wait and see.... :)
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 09-Oct-2019 09:27 <=-
That could be a little confusing! Here Kimberly Rd. is generally
east- west from one end of Davenport to the other; gets into Bettendorf
and almost immediately takes a 90ø turn east down to the River. (?!)
No idea why -- like you mentioned there is probably a historic reason.
Which is the older municipality, Bettendorf or Davenport...? Maybe itDavenport is older; Bettendorf originally was a 'bedroom community'.
was the safest way to go down to the River, or there was> a
particular dock there....
As for why Kimberly Rd. makes that right angle turn, no idea other than
a guess of finishing the street off. It's about forty blocks parallel
to the Mississippi River and has always been a major east-west thoroughfare. Maybe years ago (before Bettendorf) it made sense to
make a turn at the end of Davenport to allow the road to finish some
place logical, or at least connect to the other east-west roads.
...If one continues straight from Davenport's Kimberly Rd. goes into
Bettendorf's Spruce Hills Drive. It is hilly, maybe was a patch of
spruce woods originally?
I'd guess that Kimberly Rd was the original road, and when theyOr "we spruced up that hill" and got contracted! <g>
wanted to put in a road up the hill, it got the new name... and might
have been plenty of spruces there originally... or at the end of the
road... ;)
People can go down to the Barge Canal, still much in use, to see how
the locks and dams work... there are regular river boat cruises here,
in various parts of the system, too... Our high school class did that
twice for a reunion activity... a dinner cruise... :)
Was anyone suspicious of the 'fresh fish' dinner option?!
;) I don't recall if we chose that as one of the options to beSounds like a good celebration!
available.... ;) We did it for our 40th, to be a little different,
and then again for our 45th because it had been so much fun... We
did the Sam Patch one first, and then a slightly larger one, on a
different section of the canal, the second time... :)
So recovery is continuing apace... ;)
Yes. To me the smart thing to do would be to re-establish out of
areas of future potential flooding but then that single requirement
isn't always logically possible: moving inland a few additional blocks
and one is out of downtown and into residential. About a dozen blocks
up the hill one gets into another mostly business section but it's not
with a 'downtown feel'.
I guess they'll just have to weigh the risk/benefits... Short ofIMO yes. Several decades ago may have been a good time to move
moving the whole business section further from the River, I'd
guess they'd want to stay where the business is... :)
Downtown as was pretty much deteriorating: "everything" moved to the
Malls and 'shopping Downtown Davenport' was no longer. Recently a
return to Downtown, so would be difficult/expensive to move it. ...They'll figure it out.
As for the floodwall, slowly moving and read where consultants
familiar with projects of this size will be called in.
So maybe something will be in place for the next flood season... ;)
Unfortunately not. Actually there is minor flooding going on
currently: the Mississippi and other local rivers are from close to to
just above flood stage -- not enough to make it necessary to wade
through Downtown Davenport but some streets have been closed downriver.
Just not so spectacular, so doesn't make the news.... Like theRight. The current/recent flooding is hitting our news because is a
ongoing flood risk anytime there's some wind and somewhat strong
winds along the Lake Ontario shoreline...
local item; not going nationally as not overly spectacular. LeClaire
Park along the River is flooded - pretty much floods to some degree
every year.
So possibly decided that your area was a nice place to settle after
all... :)
Apparently! Don't know if the one young eagle would eventually take
over his parents' nest - would think build his own and would be nice
if the new site was viewable. Guess just wait and find out!
Guess so... ;) Have to find a mate first, too....
True -- haven't read any comments on that.
So, yes, just wait and see.... :)The website comments have been updated but only as to storage by
month/ season. I take a quick look every so often at the webcams but haven't seen any activity. Well, does look like the cameras have been electronically moved: backed off some - not doing a close-up.
Back from the (hopefully) last trip of the year... ;)
That could be a little confusing! Here Kimberly Rd. is generally
east- west from one end of Davenport to the other; gets into Bettendorf
and almost immediately takes a 90ø turn east down to the River. (?!)
No idea why -- like you mentioned there is probably a historic reason.
Which is the older municipality, Bettendorf or Davenport...? Maybe itDavenport is older; Bettendorf originally was a 'bedroom community'.
was the safest way to go down to the River, or there was> a
particular dock there....
As for why Kimberly Rd. makes that right angle turn, no idea other than
a guess of finishing the street off. It's about forty blocks parallel
to the Mississippi River and has always been a major east-west thoroughfare. Maybe years ago (before Bettendorf) it made sense to
make a turn at the end of Davenport to allow the road to finish some
place logical, or at least connect to the other east-west roads.
As good a reason as any... :)
...If one continues straight from Davenport's Kimberly Rd. goes into
Bettendorf's Spruce Hills Drive. It is hilly, maybe was a patch of
spruce woods originally?
I'd guess that Kimberly Rd was the original road, and when theyOr "we spruced up that hill" and got contracted! <g>
wanted to put in a road up the hill, it got the new name... and might
have been plenty of spruces there originally... or at the end of the
road... ;)
I like my guess better... <G>
People can go down to the Barge Canal, still much in use, to see how
the locks and dams work... there are regular river boat cruises here,
in various parts of the system, too... Our high school class did that
twice for a reunion activity... a dinner cruise... :)
Was anyone suspicious of the 'fresh fish' dinner option?!
;) I don't recall if we chose that as one of the options to beSounds like a good celebration!
available.... ;) We did it for our 40th, to be a little different,
and then again for our 45th because it had been so much fun... We
did the Sam Patch one first, and then a slightly larger one, on a
different section of the canal, the second time... :)
It was... :) And well enjoyed... :) For our 50th we did the
dinner at a party house... and had a good time there, too... :)
So recovery is continuing apace... ;)
Yes. To me the smart thing to do would be to re-establish out of
areas of future potential flooding but then that single requirement
isn't always logically possible: moving inland a few additional blocks
and one is out of downtown and into residential. About a dozen blocks
up the hill one gets into another mostly business section but it's not
with a 'downtown feel'.
I guess they'll just have to weigh the risk/benefits... Short ofIMO yes. Several decades ago may have been a good time to move
moving the whole business section further from the River, I'd
guess they'd want to stay where the business is... :)
Downtown as was pretty much deteriorating: "everything" moved to the
Malls and 'shopping Downtown Davenport' was no longer. Recently a
return to Downtown, so would be difficult/expensive to move it.
...They'll figure it out.
I'm sure they will... :)
As for the floodwall, slowly moving and read where consultants
familiar with projects of this size will be called in.
So maybe something will be in place for the next flood season... ;)
Unfortunately not. Actually there is minor flooding going on
currently: the Mississippi and other local rivers are from close to to
just above flood stage -- not enough to make it necessary to wade
through Downtown Davenport but some streets have been closed downriver.
Just not so spectacular, so doesn't make the news.... Like theRight. The current/recent flooding is hitting our news because is a
ongoing flood risk anytime there's some wind and somewhat strong
winds along the Lake Ontario shoreline...
local item; not going nationally as not overly spectacular. LeClaire
Park along the River is flooded - pretty much floods to some degree
every year.
So a certain amount of the flooding is just to be expected...
It's only when it is extra high and persistent that it really is newsworthy...
So possibly decided that your area was a nice place to settle after
all... :)
Apparently! Don't know if the one young eagle would eventually take
over his parents' nest - would think build his own and would be nice
if the new site was viewable. Guess just wait and find out!
Guess so... ;) Have to find a mate first, too....
True -- haven't read any comments on that.
So, yes, just wait and see.... :)The website comments have been updated but only as to storage by
month/ season. I take a quick look every so often at the webcams but haven't seen any activity. Well, does look like the cameras have been electronically moved: backed off some - not doing a close-up.
The season for nesting won't be until the spring... now things
are more on hold naturally... ;)
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 25-Oct-2019 08:16 <=-
Back from the (hopefully) last trip of the year... ;)Welcome back!
Davenport is older; Bettendorf originally was a 'bedroom community'.
As for why Kimberly Rd. makes that right angle turn, no idea other than
a guess of finishing the street off. It's about forty blocks parallel
to the Mississippi River and has always been a major east-west
thoroughfare. Maybe years ago (before Bettendorf) it made sense to
make a turn at the end of Davenport to allow the road to finish some
place logical, or at least connect to the other east-west roads.
As good a reason as any... :)"That's my story an' I'm stickin' with it!" <g> To me would be one of those fun side-excursions to ask/find out why but I wouldn't want to
get deeper than the surface. First question would be "who is 'Kimberly'?", and then "we're off!" <say that horse race announcer
style>.
...If one continues straight from Davenport's Kimberly Rd. goes into
Bettendorf's Spruce Hills Drive. It is hilly, maybe was a patch of
spruce woods originally?
I'd guess that Kimberly Rd was the original road, and when they
wanted to put in a road up the hill, it got the new name... and might
have been plenty of spruces there originally... or at the end of the
road... ;)
Or "we spruced up that hill" and got contracted! <g>
I like my guess better... <G>See what happens when on starts asking questions? <bg>
We did it for our 40th, to be a little different, and then again
for our 45th because it had been so much fun... We did the Sam Patch
one first, and then a slightly larger one, on a different section of
the canal, the second time... :)
Sounds like a good celebration!
It was... :) And well enjoyed... :) For our 50th we did theGood. :) ...I'm trying to think of a 'party house' around here. Know you're not implying the wild college toga event <chuckle> but a
dinner at a party house... and had a good time there, too... :)
banquet hall type event in a home environment. ...Probably are some.
I guess they'll just have to weigh the risk/benefits... Short of
moving the whole business section further from the River, I'd
guess they'd want to stay where the business is... :)
IMO yes. Several decades ago may have been a good time to move
Downtown as was pretty much deteriorating: "everything" moved to the
Malls and 'shopping Downtown Davenport' was no longer. Recently a
return to Downtown, so would be difficult/expensive to move it.
...They'll figure it out.
I'm sure they will... :)They might want to get movin': the Mississippi has above flood stage
by about half a foot the past couple of weeks and predicted to stay
above for at least another few weeks. Some roads were closed but all
have re-opened; just some land along the River is home to fishes.
Right. The current/recent flooding is hitting our news because is a
local item; not going nationally as not overly spectacular. LeClaire
Park along the River is flooded - pretty much floods to some degree
every year.
So a certain amount of the flooding is just to be expected... It'sYes: not unusual to see parks, trails, etc., along the River under a little water in the Spring/early Summer; when it starts to lap at the streets alongside we've got another major flood going on.
only when it is extra high and persistent that it really is
newsworthy...
The website comments have been updated but only as to storage by
month/ season. I take a quick look every so often at the webcams but
haven't seen any activity. Well, does look like the cameras have been
electronically moved: backed off some - not doing a close-up.
The season for nesting won't be until the spring... now things areAre you saying things have cooled off?! ...36ø this morning (Friday, October 25th); they're talking about the probability of a hard freeze
more on hold naturally... ;)
late next week and maybe some snow flurries; ansiweather has a
snowflake for Monday's forecast. Might be time for me to stop
considering wearing long-sleeved shirts and start wearing!
Davenport is older; Bettendorf originally was a 'bedroom community'.
As for why Kimberly Rd. makes that right angle turn, no idea other than
a guess of finishing the street off. It's about forty blocks parallel
to the Mississippi River and has always been a major east-west
thoroughfare. Maybe years ago (before Bettendorf) it made sense to
make a turn at the end of Davenport to allow the road to finish some
place logical, or at least connect to the other east-west roads.
As good a reason as any... :)"That's my story an' I'm stickin' with it!" <g> To me would be one of those fun side-excursions to ask/find out why but I wouldn't want to
get deeper than the surface. First question would be "who is 'Kimberly'?", and then "we're off!" <say that horse race announcer
style>.
It's the sort of thing that a local history section of your
library probably would have information on... :)
...If one continues straight from Davenport's Kimberly Rd. goes into
Bettendorf's Spruce Hills Drive. It is hilly, maybe was a patch of
spruce woods originally?
I'd guess that Kimberly Rd was the original road, and when they
wanted to put in a road up the hill, it got the new name... and might
have been plenty of spruces there originally... or at the end of the
road... ;)
Or "we spruced up that hill" and got contracted! <g>
I like my guess better... <G>See what happens when on starts asking questions? <bg>
People start getting silly....? <G>
We did it for our 40th, to be a little different, and then again
for our 45th because it had been so much fun... We did the Sam Patch
one first, and then a slightly larger one, on a different section of
the canal, the second time... :)
Sounds like a good celebration!
It was... :) And well enjoyed... :) For our 50th we did theGood. :) ...I'm trying to think of a 'party house' around here. Know you're not implying the wild college toga event <chuckle> but a
dinner at a party house... and had a good time there, too... :)
banquet hall type event in a home environment. ...Probably are some.
Not so much a home environment... It's a banquet hall that is free-standing... and the restaurant there only used for events,
such as weddings, anniversaries and reunions and the like...
Around here we call such an establishment a party house.... quite
a few of them around here, but mostly in the quieter areas of the suburbs... This particular one was tucked down a dead end road
off a major thoroughfare, in an almost rural setting.... I'd
brought my niece to that particular place for a wedding before we
used it for our school reunion.... :)
I guess they'll just have to weigh the risk/benefits... Short of
moving the whole business section further from the River, I'd
guess they'd want to stay where the business is... :)
IMO yes. Several decades ago may have been a good time to move
Downtown as was pretty much deteriorating: "everything" moved to the
Malls and 'shopping Downtown Davenport' was no longer. Recently a
return to Downtown, so would be difficult/expensive to move it.
...They'll figure it out.
I'm sure they will... :)They might want to get movin': the Mississippi has above flood stage
by about half a foot the past couple of weeks and predicted to stay
above for at least another few weeks. Some roads were closed but all
have re-opened; just some land along the River is home to fishes.
That doesn't bode all that well for next spring, does it....
Right. The current/recent flooding is hitting our news because is a
local item; not going nationally as not overly spectacular. LeClaire
Park along the River is flooded - pretty much floods to some degree
every year.
So a certain amount of the flooding is just to be expected... It'sYes: not unusual to see parks, trails, etc., along the River under a little water in the Spring/early Summer; when it starts to lap at the streets alongside we've got another major flood going on.
only when it is extra high and persistent that it really is
newsworthy...
Is the current flooding less usual, then....?
The website comments have been updated but only as to storage by
month/ season. I take a quick look every so often at the webcams but
haven't seen any activity. Well, does look like the cameras have been
electronically moved: backed off some - not doing a close-up.
The season for nesting won't be until the spring... now things areAre you saying things have cooled off?! ...36ø this morning (Friday, October 25th); they're talking about the probability of a hard freeze
more on hold naturally... ;)
late next week and maybe some snow flurries; ansiweather has a
snowflake for Monday's forecast. Might be time for me to stop
considering wearing long-sleeved shirts and start wearing!
Just might be... <G> I don't think we've had a hard freeze yet,
although there've been some lows near-freezing... and so far no
snow here, either, although the forecast for Sat night and Sunday
contain the possibility of rain or snow showers.... shouldn't be
sticking yet, though..... ;)
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 31-Oct-2019 12:39 <=-
As for why Kimberly Rd. makes that right angle turn, no idea other than
a guess of finishing the street off. It's about forty blocks parallel
to the Mississippi River and has always been a major east-west
thoroughfare. Maybe years ago (before Bettendorf) it made sense to
make a turn at the end of Davenport to allow the road to finish some
place logical, or at least connect to the other east-west roads.
As good a reason as any... :)
"That's my story an' I'm stickin' with it!" <g> To me would be one of
those fun side-excursions to ask/find out why but I wouldn't want to
get deeper than the surface. First question would be "who is
'Kimberly'?", and then "we're off!" <say that horse race announcer
style>.
It's the sort of thing that a local history section of yourMore than likely the Downtown/Main Library in Davenport; I have not
library probably would have information on... :)
been there but have heard they have an excellent reference section for Davenport history. (Good news: the Library was not affected by the flooding.)
For our 50th we did the dinner at a party house... and had a good
time there, too... :)
Good. :) ...I'm trying to think of a 'party house' around here. Know
you're not implying the wild college toga event <chuckle> but a
banquet hall type event in a home environment. ...Probably are some.
Not so much a home environment... It's a banquet hall that isAh, OK. Regional terminologies. We do have similar sites locally;
free-standing... and the restaurant there only used for events, such
as weddings, anniversaries and reunions and the like... Around here we
call such an establishment a party house.... quite a few of them
around here, but mostly in the quieter areas of the suburbs... This
particular one was tucked down a dead end road off a major
thoroughfare, in an almost rural setting.... I'd brought my niece to
that particular place for a wedding before we used it for our school
reunion.... :)
OTTOMH not sure about the kitchen but there is essentially a house on
the nearby golf course and park one can rent for receptions, etc.
Davenport has the Credit Island Lodge - yes, that got flooded but had
been rebuilt a few years back due to a fire and the first floor level
is more or less minimal so when it does flood not too much to move out
(to upstairs) and repair. (The island was a site for fur, etc.,
trading back in the Indian Days and hence the name.)
They might want to get movin': the Mississippi has above flood stage
by about half a foot the past couple of weeks and predicted to stay
above for at least another few weeks. Some roads were closed but all
have re-opened; just some land along the River is home to fishes.
That doesn't bode all that well for next spring, does it....There is a current concern which I hadn't hadn't heard of until
lately. Some of the area rivers including the Mississippi are still at flood stage and that is causing a potential problem for the roadways nearby. The road bed is rock, gravel, etc., to allow good drainage, but that also allows the water from the river, stream. etc., to flow in to
the road bed. Water expands when it freezes, so if there is water in
the drainage bed could expand and damage the road this winter.
So a certain amount of the flooding is just to be expected... It's
only when it is extra high and persistent that it really is
newsworthy...
Yes: not unusual to see parks, trails, etc., along the River under a
little water in the Spring/early Summer; when it starts to lap at the
streets alongside we've got another major flood going on.
Is the current flooding less usual, then....?Generally right at flood stage, so generally no surface problems: riverside parks and streets are open. LIS a bit ago, some of the
elevated water levels isn't allowing the road bed to dry out. IIRC
the Mississippi has been at or over flood stage for most of the year.
Are you saying things have cooled off?! ...36ø this morning (Friday,
October 25th); they're talking about the probability of a hard freeze
late next week and maybe some snow flurries; ansiweather has a
snowflake for Monday's forecast. Might be time for me to stop
considering wearing long-sleeved shirts and start wearing!
Just might be... <G> I don't think we've had a hard freeze yet,<Looking out> Still snowing; snow plow went by about a half-hour ago.
although there've been some lows near-freezing... and so far no
snow here, either, although the forecast for Sat night and Sunday
contain the possibility of rain or snow showers.... shouldn't be
sticking yet, though..... ;)
And yes, I did switch over to long-sleeved shirts - for some reason I
do feel warmer!
As for why Kimberly Rd. makes that right angle turn, no idea other than
a guess of finishing the street off. It's about forty blocks parallel
to the Mississippi River and has always been a major east-west
thoroughfare. Maybe years ago (before Bettendorf) it made sense to
make a turn at the end of Davenport to allow the road to finish some
place logical, or at least connect to the other east-west roads.
As good a reason as any... :)
"That's my story an' I'm stickin' with it!" <g> To me would be one of
those fun side-excursions to ask/find out why but I wouldn't want to
get deeper than the surface. First question would be "who is
'Kimberly'?", and then "we're off!" <say that horse race announcer
style>.
It's the sort of thing that a local history section of yourMore than likely the Downtown/Main Library in Davenport; I have not
library probably would have information on... :)
been there but have heard they have an excellent reference section for Davenport history. (Good news: the Library was not affected by the flooding.)
Very good news... and yes, that does sound like a good place to
look... :)
For our 50th we did the dinner at a party house... and had a good
time there, too... :)
Good. :) ...I'm trying to think of a 'party house' around here. Know
you're not implying the wild college toga event <chuckle> but a
banquet hall type event in a home environment. ...Probably are some.
Not so much a home environment... It's a banquet hall that isAh, OK. Regional terminologies. We do have similar sites locally;
free-standing... and the restaurant there only used for events, such
as weddings, anniversaries and reunions and the like... Around here we
call such an establishment a party house.... quite a few of them
around here, but mostly in the quieter areas of the suburbs... This
particular one was tucked down a dead end road off a major
thoroughfare, in an almost rural setting.... I'd brought my niece to
that particular place for a wedding before we used it for our school
reunion.... :)
OTTOMH not sure about the kitchen but there is essentially a house on
the nearby golf course and park one can rent for receptions, etc.
These will have an extensive kitchen, with a large room for the
main event, and often a smaller room for a bar (sometimes just
part of the main room), along with restrooms... And there is a
staff that runs the establishment and the kitchen, so when you
rent the space, you get full service with it... :)
Davenport has the Credit Island Lodge - yes, that got flooded but had
been rebuilt a few years back due to a fire and the first floor level
is more or less minimal so when it does flood not too much to move out
(to upstairs) and repair. (The island was a site for fur, etc.,
trading back in the Indian Days and hence the name.)
Ah, the name does makes sense with that history... :) We also
have lodges (generally one-story) that are available to rent in
the various local parks... those come with kitchen and restrooms,
but one has to bring in one's own food and can cook it there
themselves...
They might want to get movin': the Mississippi has above flood stage
by about half a foot the past couple of weeks and predicted to stay
above for at least another few weeks. Some roads were closed but all
have re-opened; just some land along the River is home to fishes.
That doesn't bode all that well for next spring, does it....There is a current concern which I hadn't hadn't heard of until
lately. Some of the area rivers including the Mississippi are still at flood stage and that is causing a potential problem for the roadways nearby. The road bed is rock, gravel, etc., to allow good drainage, but that also allows the water from the river, stream. etc., to flow in to
the road bed. Water expands when it freezes, so if there is water in
the drainage bed could expand and damage the road this winter.
Yet another factor.... ;( That sounds like a problem that should
have been thought of before.... but I suppose having the rivers
stay at flood stage hasn't been that big a factor up till
now....?
So a certain amount of the flooding is just to be expected... It's
only when it is extra high and persistent that it really is
newsworthy...
Yes: not unusual to see parks, trails, etc., along the River under a
little water in the Spring/early Summer; when it starts to lap at the
streets alongside we've got another major flood going on.
Is the current flooding less usual, then....?Generally right at flood stage, so generally no surface problems: riverside parks and streets are open. LIS a bit ago, some of the
elevated water levels isn't allowing the road bed to dry out. IIRC
the Mississippi has been at or over flood stage for most of the year.
Maybe it IS time to move everything further uphill.... ;0
Are you saying things have cooled off?! ...36ø this morning (Friday,
October 25th); they're talking about the probability of a hard freeze
late next week and maybe some snow flurries; ansiweather has a
snowflake for Monday's forecast. Might be time for me to stop
considering wearing long-sleeved shirts and start wearing!
Just might be... <G> I don't think we've had a hard freeze yet,<Looking out> Still snowing; snow plow went by about a half-hour ago.
although there've been some lows near-freezing... and so far no
snow here, either, although the forecast for Sat night and Sunday
contain the possibility of rain or snow showers.... shouldn't be
sticking yet, though..... ;)
And yes, I did switch over to long-sleeved shirts - for some reason I
do feel warmer!
Well, yeah... one would think.... :)
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 09-Nov-2019 17:22 <=-
those fun side-excursions to ask/find out why but I wouldn't want to
get deeper than the surface. First question would be "who is
'Kimberly'?", and then "we're off!" <say that horse race announcer
style>.
It's the sort of thing that a local history section of your
library probably would have information on... :)
More than likely the Downtown/Main Library in Davenport; I have not
been there but have heard they have an excellent reference section for
Davenport history. (Good news: the Library was not affected by the
flooding.)
Very good news... and yes, that does sound like a good place to look..So maybe some day. Would be one of those things where I need to get
in the 'mood': isn't a higher priority item, nothing's going to change
one way or the other (thinking along the lines of researching to fight
to save for historical reasons). Actually for that specific area might
be more fun to research what's there currently. Corner is essentially
a tiny park, though would seem like a good place for a gas station, convenience store (there is one across the street). (We don't need another gas station/convenience store, and overall I prefer seeing
the grass and trees there -- cue Joni Mitchell and "they paved
paradise".) Next "lot" over is what I'm slightly curious about: largish flattened mound with a short yagi-style sticking out of it. Maybe
three feet off the ground; looks like a regular TV antenna.
Not-so-secret bunker?! Too far away from the creek to be monitoring
that.
For our 50th we did the dinner at a party house... and had a good
time there, too... :)
Good. :) ...I'm trying to think of a 'party house' around here. Know
you're not implying the wild college toga event <chuckle> but a
banquet hall type event in a home environment. ...Probably are some.
Not so much a home environment... It's a banquet hall that is
free-standing... and the restaurant there only used for events, such
as weddings, anniversaries and reunions and the like... Around here we
call such an establishment a party house.... quite a few of them
around here, but mostly in the quieter areas of the suburbs... This
particular one was tucked down a dead end road off a major
thoroughfare, in an almost rural setting.... I'd brought my niece to
that particular place for a wedding before we used it for our school
reunion.... :)
Ah, OK. Regional terminologies. We do have similar sites locally;
OTTOMH not sure about the kitchen but there is essentially a house on
the nearby golf course and park one can rent for receptions, etc.
These will have an extensive kitchen, with a large room for the mainProbably the same here. The few I've been to had the event room,
event, and often a smaller room for a bar (sometimes just part of the
main room), along with restrooms... And there is a staff that runs
the establishment and the kitchen, so when you rent the space, you
get full service with it... :)
can't recall the bar option, kitchen area, rest rooms. Don't recall
the staffing arrangements. Of two I'm recalling better both had an 'overseeing' staff member or two present: familiar with the site and helped the brought-in staff find things.
Davenport has the Credit Island Lodge - yes, that got flooded but had
been rebuilt a few years back due to a fire and the first floor level
is more or less minimal so when it does flood not too much to move out
(to upstairs) and repair. (The island was a site for fur, etc.,
trading back in the Indian Days and hence the name.)
Ah, the name does makes sense with that history... :) We also haveRight: quite a few of those options around here too.
lodges (generally one-story) that are available to rent in the various
local parks... those come with kitchen and restrooms, but one has to
bring in one's own food and can cook it there themselves...
They might want to get movin': the Mississippi has above flood stage
by about half a foot the past couple of weeks and predicted to stay
above for at least another few weeks. Some roads were closed but all
have re-opened; just some land along the River is home to fishes.
That doesn't bode all that well for next spring, does it....
There is a current concern which I hadn't hadn't heard of until
lately. Some of the area rivers including the Mississippi are still at
flood stage and that is causing a potential problem for the roadways
nearby. The road bed is rock, gravel, etc., to allow good drainage, but
that also allows the water from the river, stream. etc., to flow in to
the road bed. Water expands when it freezes, so if there is water in
the drainage bed could expand and damage the road this winter.
Yet another factor.... ;( That sounds like a problem that shouldThe staying at flood stage for so long is extremely rare - closer to never. Normally the rivers, etc., do a normal yearly drop of their
have been thought of before.... but I suppose having the rivers
stay at flood stage hasn't been that big a factor up till now....?
water level, which drains the water table to where it belongs and the
road beds are emptied. Just lots of rain, enough to keep the water
levels up near/slightly over flooding and not drop back to normal
river levels.
Is the current flooding less usual, then....?
Generally right at flood stage, so generally no surface problems:
riverside parks and streets are open. LIS a bit ago, some of the
elevated water levels isn't allowing the road bed to dry out. IIRC
the Mississippi has been at or over flood stage for most of the year.
Maybe it IS time to move everything further uphill.... ;0That would be quite a job! Have heard where it's been done, just not
on such a grand scale as would be needed locally. Recall where a small town in the South (Louisiana?) moved a relatively short distance --
mile or two? -- just enough to be sufficiently elevated so as to not be flooded.
Might be time for me to stop
considering wearing long-sleeved shirts and start wearing!
Just might be... <G> I don't think we've had a hard freeze yet,
although there've been some lows near-freezing... and so far no
snow here, either, although the forecast for Sat night and Sunday
contain the possibility of rain or snow showers.... shouldn't be
sticking yet, though..... ;)
<Looking out> Still snowing; snow plow went by about a half-hour ago.
And yes, I did switch over to long-sleeved shirts - for some reason I
do feel warmer!
Well, yeah... one would think.... :)I know and have known a few people who never 'winterize'. One guy I
know wears short sleeves all year round. OTOH I've also known people
who wear long sleeves all the time and don't get hot in summer.
those fun side-excursions to ask/find out why but I wouldn't want to
get deeper than the surface. First question would be "who is
'Kimberly'?", and then "we're off!" <say that horse race announcer
style>.
It's the sort of thing that a local history section of your
library probably would have information on... :)
More than likely the Downtown/Main Library in Davenport; I have not
been there but have heard they have an excellent reference section for
Davenport history. (Good news: the Library was not affected by the
flooding.)
Very good news... and yes, that does sound like a good place to look..So maybe some day. Would be one of those things where I need to get
in the 'mood': isn't a higher priority item, nothing's going to change
one way or the other (thinking along the lines of researching to fight
to save for historical reasons). Actually for that specific area might
be more fun to research what's there currently. Corner is essentially
a tiny park, though would seem like a good place for a gas station, convenience store (there is one across the street). (We don't need another gas station/convenience store, and overall I prefer seeing
the grass and trees there -- cue Joni Mitchell and "they paved
paradise".) Next "lot" over is what I'm slightly curious about: largish flattened mound with a short yagi-style sticking out of it. Maybe
three feet off the ground; looks like a regular TV antenna.
Not-so-secret bunker?! Too far away from the creek to be monitoring
that.
That does sound like an interesting corner... :)
For our 50th we did the dinner at a party house... and had a good
time there, too... :)
Good. :) ...I'm trying to think of a 'party house' around here. Know
you're not implying the wild college toga event <chuckle> but a
banquet hall type event in a home environment. ...Probably are some.
Not so much a home environment... It's a banquet hall that is
free-standing... and the restaurant there only used for events, such
as weddings, anniversaries and reunions and the like... Around here we
call such an establishment a party house.... quite a few of them
around here, but mostly in the quieter areas of the suburbs... This
particular one was tucked down a dead end road off a major
thoroughfare, in an almost rural setting.... I'd brought my niece to
that particular place for a wedding before we used it for our school
reunion.... :)
Ah, OK. Regional terminologies. We do have similar sites locally;
OTTOMH not sure about the kitchen but there is essentially a house on
the nearby golf course and park one can rent for receptions, etc.
These will have an extensive kitchen, with a large room for the mainProbably the same here. The few I've been to had the event room,
event, and often a smaller room for a bar (sometimes just part of the
main room), along with restrooms... And there is a staff that runs
the establishment and the kitchen, so when you rent the space, you
get full service with it... :)
can't recall the bar option, kitchen area, rest rooms. Don't recall
the staffing arrangements. Of two I'm recalling better both had an 'overseeing' staff member or two present: familiar with the site and helped the brought-in staff find things.
So possibly between what we call a party-house and the more
self-serve lodges in the parks here... Another way to describe
the party house here is that it's a restaurant that is only open
to private parties, not to the general public... :)
Davenport has the Credit Island Lodge - yes, that got flooded but had
been rebuilt a few years back due to a fire and the first floor level
is more or less minimal so when it does flood not too much to move out
(to upstairs) and repair. (The island was a site for fur, etc.,
trading back in the Indian Days and hence the name.)
Ah, the name does makes sense with that history... :) We also haveRight: quite a few of those options around here too.
lodges (generally one-story) that are available to rent in the various
local parks... those come with kitchen and restrooms, but one has to
bring in one's own food and can cook it there themselves...
That tends to be rather a common option... :)
They might want to get movin': the Mississippi has above flood stage
by about half a foot the past couple of weeks and predicted to stay
above for at least another few weeks. Some roads were closed but all
have re-opened; just some land along the River is home to fishes.
That doesn't bode all that well for next spring, does it....
There is a current concern which I hadn't hadn't heard of until
lately. Some of the area rivers including the Mississippi are still at
flood stage and that is causing a potential problem for the roadways
nearby. The road bed is rock, gravel, etc., to allow good drainage, but
that also allows the water from the river, stream. etc., to flow in to
the road bed. Water expands when it freezes, so if there is water in
the drainage bed could expand and damage the road this winter.
Yet another factor.... ;( That sounds like a problem that shouldThe staying at flood stage for so long is extremely rare - closer to never. Normally the rivers, etc., do a normal yearly drop of their
have been thought of before.... but I suppose having the rivers
stay at flood stage hasn't been that big a factor up till now....?
water level, which drains the water table to where it belongs and the
road beds are emptied. Just lots of rain, enough to keep the water
levels up near/slightly over flooding and not drop back to normal
river levels.
Let's hope that it isn't a new normal... and that things will be
back to the more expected next year...!
Is the current flooding less usual, then....?
Generally right at flood stage, so generally no surface problems:
riverside parks and streets are open. LIS a bit ago, some of the
elevated water levels isn't allowing the road bed to dry out. IIRC
the Mississippi has been at or over flood stage for most of the year.
Maybe it IS time to move everything further uphill.... ;0That would be quite a job! Have heard where it's been done, just not
on such a grand scale as would be needed locally. Recall where a small town in the South (Louisiana?) moved a relatively short distance --
mile or two? -- just enough to be sufficiently elevated so as to not be flooded.
It would be quite a job, and I was mostly being a little
facetious... Even a small town would find it quite the job, I'm
sure....
Might be time for me to stop
considering wearing long-sleeved shirts and start wearing!
And now, we've not only had a hard freeze, but have stayed coldJust might be... <G> I don't think we've had a hard freeze yet,
although there've been some lows near-freezing... and so far no
snow here, either, although the forecast for Sat night and Sunday
contain the possibility of rain or snow showers.... shouldn't be
sticking yet, though..... ;)
for almost a week now... and got a foot of snow.... which also is
still around... As some of announcers have been saying, we're
getting January weather in November! Today the high is only 27ø,
but it's supposed to be in the 30s again tomorrow and Monday...
they were talking about the 40s but that keeps moving down the
way more...
<Looking out> Still snowing; snow plow went by about a half-hour ago.
And yes, I did switch over to long-sleeved shirts - for some reason I
do feel warmer!
Well, yeah... one would think.... :)I know and have known a few people who never 'winterize'. One guy I
know wears short sleeves all year round. OTOH I've also known people
who wear long sleeves all the time and don't get hot in summer.
There are indeed all kinds.... :)
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 17-Nov-2019 11:10 <=-
Actually for that specific area might be more fun to research what's
there currently. Corner is essentially a tiny park, though would seem
like a good place for a gas station, convenience store (there is one
across the street). (We don't need another gas station/convenience
store, and overall I prefer seeing the grass and trees there -- cue
Joni Mitchell and "they paved paradise".) Next "lot" over is what I'm
slightly curious about: largish flattened mound with a short yagi-style
sticking out of it. Maybe three feet off the ground; looks like a
regular TV antenna. Not-so-secret bunker?! Too far away from the creek
to be monitoring that.
That does sound like an interesting corner... :)I had looked on Google Maps and nothing identified. Have been told
that area used to be road for a gentle curve from the E-W Kimberly Rd.
to the N-S one; was modified when the interchange with I-74 was constructed (I think early 70''s -- before I moved out here). Doesn't explain the 'secret bunker' thing.
Ah, OK. Regional terminologies. We do have similar sites locally;
OTTOMH not sure about the kitchen but there is essentially a house on
the nearby golf course and park one can rent for receptions, etc.
These will have an extensive kitchen, with a large room for the main
event, and often a smaller room for a bar (sometimes just part of the
main room), along with restrooms... And there is a staff that runs
the establishment and the kitchen, so when you rent the space, you
get full service with it... :)
Probably the same here. The few I've been to had the event room,
can't recall the bar option, kitchen area, rest rooms. Don't recall
the staffing arrangements. Of two I'm recalling better both had an
'overseeing' staff member or two present: familiar with the site and
helped the brought-in staff find things.
So possibly between what we call a party-house and the more self-serveRight. The ones I can think of out here generally use the word
lodges in the parks here... Another way to describe the party house
here is that it's a restaurant that is only open to private parties,
not to the general public... :)
'lodge' and state available for rental -- almost like there isn't a descriptor, one just knows: "Duck Creek Lodge", "Credit Island
Lodge"... OTOH when one says "The Lodge" they mean the former
restaurant and hotel.
Davenport has the Credit Island Lodge - yes, that got flooded but had
been rebuilt a few years back due to a fire and the first floor level
is more or less minimal so when it does flood not too much to move out
(to upstairs) and repair. (The island was a site for fur, etc.,
trading back in the Indian Days and hence the name.)
Ah, the name does makes sense with that history... :) We also have
lodges (generally one-story) that are available to rent in the various
local parks... those come with kitchen and restrooms, but one has to
bring in one's own food and can cook it there themselves...
Right: quite a few of those options around here too.
That tends to be rather a common option... :)Was looking up Duck Creek Lodge and for their gazebo area (separate
from the house) has a seating capacity of 40 with no additional chairs allowed; the house portion has a capacity of 110 but I didn't see
mention of who provides the seating, tables, etc. (Probably noted in
the reservations section.)
..And then there are two shelters in the
park which can be served, and yes, there are rest rooms nearby,
There is a current concern which I hadn't hadn't heard of until
lately. Some of the area rivers including the Mississippi are still at
flood stage and that is causing a potential problem for the roadways
nearby. The road bed is rock, gravel, etc., to allow good drainage, but
that also allows the water from the river, stream. etc., to flow in to
the road bed. Water expands when it freezes, so if there is water in
the drainage bed could expand and damage the road this winter.
Yet another factor.... ;( That sounds like a problem that should
have been thought of before.... but I suppose having the rivers
stay at flood stage hasn't been that big a factor up till now....?
The staying at flood stage for so long is extremely rare - closer to
never. Normally the rivers, etc., do a normal yearly drop of their
water level, which drains the water table to where it belongs and the
road beds are emptied. Just lots of rain, enough to keep the water
levels up near/slightly over flooding and not drop back to normal
river levels.
Let's hope that it isn't a new normal... and that things will beThey're already issuing flood predictions for next year; I haven't
back to the more expected next year...!
taken the time to read them yet.
Maybe it IS time to move everything further uphill.... ;0
That would be quite a job! Have heard where it's been done, just not
on such a grand scale as would be needed locally. Recall where a small
town in the South (Louisiana?) moved a relatively short distance --
mile or two? -- just enough to be sufficiently elevated so as to not be
flooded.
It would be quite a job, and I was mostly being a little facetious...Right. I have seen houses moved -- slowly creeping down the street in
Even a small town would find it quite the job, I'm sure....
two or three portions. (Originally had 'pieces' - seemed not quite appriopriate!) Probably impossible to move most of the business
buildings as just too large. Building replacements would be a
nightmare: currently the buildings fit together and the business owner makes do with what they have. If moving most would be doing the "it
would be nice to have extra room" or sometimes a little less room, so
the current jigsaw fit is lost.
And now, we've not only had a hard freeze, but have stayed cold forWe've been roughly ten degrees cooler than normal the past and current week. Next week is suppose to be warmer than it has been but still a little cooler than normal. Right now 35ø and last I heard a 3 mile visibility with the fog. Supposed to rain around noon.
almost a week now... and got a foot of snow.... which also is still
around... As some of announcers have been saying, we're getting
January weather in November! Today the high is only 27ø, but it's
supposed to be in the 30s again tomorrow and Monday... they were
talking about the 40s but that keeps moving down the way more...
<Looking out> Still snowing; snow plow went by about a half-hour ago.
And yes, I did switch over to long-sleeved shirts - for some reason I
do feel warmer!
Well, yeah... one would think.... :)
I know and have known a few people who never 'winterize'. One guy I
know wears short sleeves all year round. OTOH I've also known people
who wear long sleeves all the time and don't get hot in summer.
There are indeed all kinds.... :)For me it's just too hot to wear long sleeved shirts in the summer and
too cold to wear short sleeved shirts in the winter. OTOH I did wear
a suit jacket year round, though a short- or long sleeved shirt
underneath depending on the season - unless hot-hot tempertures I was
fine -- guess a little air circulation in the jacket sleeve!
Actually for that specific area might be more fun to research what's
there currently. Corner is essentially a tiny park, though would seem
like a good place for a gas station, convenience store (there is one
across the street). (We don't need another gas station/convenience
store, and overall I prefer seeing the grass and trees there -- cue
Joni Mitchell and "they paved paradise".) Next "lot" over is what I'm
slightly curious about: largish flattened mound with a short yagi-style
sticking out of it. Maybe three feet off the ground; looks like a
regular TV antenna. Not-so-secret bunker?! Too far away from the creek
to be monitoring that.
That does sound like an interesting corner... :)I had looked on Google Maps and nothing identified. Have been told
that area used to be road for a gentle curve from the E-W Kimberly Rd.
to the N-S one; was modified when the interchange with I-74 was constructed (I think early 70''s -- before I moved out here). Doesn't explain the 'secret bunker' thing.
That's the sort of thing that the local history library might
have the information on... :)
Ah, OK. Regional terminologies. We do have similar sites locally;
OTTOMH not sure about the kitchen but there is essentially a house on
the nearby golf course and park one can rent for receptions, etc.
These will have an extensive kitchen, with a large room for the main
event, and often a smaller room for a bar (sometimes just part of the
main room), along with restrooms... And there is a staff that runs
the establishment and the kitchen, so when you rent the space, you
get full service with it... :)
Probably the same here. The few I've been to had the event room,
can't recall the bar option, kitchen area, rest rooms. Don't recall
the staffing arrangements. Of two I'm recalling better both had an
'overseeing' staff member or two present: familiar with the site and
helped the brought-in staff find things.
So possibly between what we call a party-house and the more self-serveRight. The ones I can think of out here generally use the word
lodges in the parks here... Another way to describe the party house
here is that it's a restaurant that is only open to private parties,
not to the general public... :)
'lodge' and state available for rental -- almost like there isn't a descriptor, one just knows: "Duck Creek Lodge", "Credit Island
Lodge"... OTOH when one says "The Lodge" they mean the former
restaurant and hotel.
Hard to be sure, but what you describe doesn't seem to quite be
the same as our party houses... but at least similar....
Davenport has the Credit Island Lodge - yes, that got flooded but had
been rebuilt a few years back due to a fire and the first floor level
is more or less minimal so when it does flood not too much to move out
(to upstairs) and repair. (The island was a site for fur, etc.,
trading back in the Indian Days and hence the name.)
Ah, the name does makes sense with that history... :) We also have
lodges (generally one-story) that are available to rent in the various
local parks... those come with kitchen and restrooms, but one has to
bring in one's own food and can cook it there themselves...
Right: quite a few of those options around here too.
That tends to be rather a common option... :)Was looking up Duck Creek Lodge and for their gazebo area (separate
from the house) has a seating capacity of 40 with no additional chairs allowed; the house portion has a capacity of 110 but I didn't see
mention of who provides the seating, tables, etc. (Probably noted in
the reservations section.)
If they do, then it's closer to what we call a party house...
especially if they also provide the food and the service.... :)
..And then there are two shelters in the
park which can be served, and yes, there are rest rooms nearby,
Good thing... ;)
There is a current concern which I hadn't hadn't heard of until
lately. Some of the area rivers including the Mississippi are still at
flood stage and that is causing a potential problem for the roadways
nearby. The road bed is rock, gravel, etc., to allow good drainage, but
that also allows the water from the river, stream. etc., to flow in to
the road bed. Water expands when it freezes, so if there is water in
the drainage bed could expand and damage the road this winter.
Yet another factor.... ;( That sounds like a problem that should
have been thought of before.... but I suppose having the rivers
stay at flood stage hasn't been that big a factor up till now....?
The staying at flood stage for so long is extremely rare - closer to
never. Normally the rivers, etc., do a normal yearly drop of their
water level, which drains the water table to where it belongs and the
road beds are emptied. Just lots of rain, enough to keep the water
levels up near/slightly over flooding and not drop back to normal
river levels.
Let's hope that it isn't a new normal... and that things will beThey're already issuing flood predictions for next year; I haven't
back to the more expected next year...!
taken the time to read them yet.
That sounds scary... unless they are predicting much less next
year than this year....
Maybe it IS time to move everything further uphill.... ;0
That would be quite a job! Have heard where it's been done, just not
on such a grand scale as would be needed locally. Recall where a small
town in the South (Louisiana?) moved a relatively short distance --
mile or two? -- just enough to be sufficiently elevated so as to not be
flooded.
It would be quite a job, and I was mostly being a little facetious...Right. I have seen houses moved -- slowly creeping down the street in
Even a small town would find it quite the job, I'm sure....
two or three portions. (Originally had 'pieces' - seemed not quite appriopriate!) Probably impossible to move most of the business
buildings as just too large. Building replacements would be a
nightmare: currently the buildings fit together and the business owner makes do with what they have. If moving most would be doing the "it
would be nice to have extra room" or sometimes a little less room, so
the current jigsaw fit is lost.
Yup, does sound like a nightmare... I've actually seen some whole
(fairly large) houses moved down the street to a new location,
but it's a major operation, and probably more than a little risky
that everything would survive the move without some damage....
And now, we've not only had a hard freeze, but have stayed cold forWe've been roughly ten degrees cooler than normal the past and current week. Next week is suppose to be warmer than it has been but still a little cooler than normal. Right now 35ø and last I heard a 3 mile visibility with the fog. Supposed to rain around noon.
almost a week now... and got a foot of snow.... which also is still
around... As some of announcers have been saying, we're getting
January weather in November! Today the high is only 27ø, but it's
supposed to be in the 30s again tomorrow and Monday... they were
talking about the 40s but that keeps moving down the way more...
And the last couple of days here, it's actually been in the high
50s...! We actually did get our Indian (late) Spring finally...
not quite the Indian Summer that would have been nice, but it is
the end of November, after all... ;) Today is back in the 30s,
and tomorrow is supposed to be likewise... then maybe back in the
40s for the beginning of next week...
I'll use a sweater jacket for the fall, most of the winter, and
then again in the spring... When it's a little warmer, I wear a
short sleeved shirt under my dresses... and when cooler, switch
to long-sleeved... And when colder yet, actually zip up the
sweater... ;) Only when the temps get below zero F do I switch
to the winter jacket... usually that one's too warm for me... :)
In the summer, I tend to switch to the shorter length sleeveless sundresses...
... Everytime I have all the answers, somebody changes the
questions
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 29-Nov-2019 08:43 <=-
Just got a refill on on my coffee and heard this announcment on the
radio: "Thanks for listening to KIIK ["kick"] one-oh-four-nine at work
-- that means you haven't been fired yet." Obviously tongue-in-cheek.
Actually for that specific area might be more fun to research what's
there currently. Corner is essentially a tiny park, though would seem
like a good place for a gas station, convenience store (there is one
across the street). (We don't need another gas station/convenience
store, and overall I prefer seeing the grass and trees there -- cue
Joni Mitchell and "they paved paradise".) Next "lot" over is what I'm
slightly curious about: largish flattened mound with a short yagi-style
sticking out of it. Maybe three feet off the ground; looks like a
regular TV antenna. Not-so-secret bunker?! Too far away from the creek
to be monitoring that.
That does sound like an interesting corner... :)
I had looked on Google Maps and nothing identified. Have been told
that area used to be road for a gentle curve from the E-W Kimberly Rd.
to the N-S one; was modified when the interchange with I-74 was
constructed (I think early 70''s -- before I moved out here). Doesn't
explain the 'secret bunker' thing.
That's the sort of thing that the local history library might haveAre you trying to get me off my computer chair?! It'll probably end
the information on... :)
up being something boring like a part of the sewer system. OTOH.... :)
Right. The ones I can think of out here generally use the word
'lodge' and state available for rental -- almost like there isn't a
descriptor, one just knows: "Duck Creek Lodge", "Credit Island
Lodge"... OTOH when one says "The Lodge" they mean the former
restaurant and hotel.
Hard to be sure, but what you describe doesn't seem to quite beI'm thinking it's similar to what your 'party house' is but not the
the same as our party houses... but at least similar....
same.
Was looking up Duck Creek Lodge and for their gazebo area (separate
from the house) has a seating capacity of 40 with no additional chairs
allowed; the house portion has a capacity of 110 but I didn't see
mention of who provides the seating, tables, etc. (Probably noted in
the reservations section.)
If they do, then it's closer to what we call a party house...I don't think they provide the food, or at least the two events for
especially if they also provide the food and the service.... :)
which I've attended a function there was catered. Another thing for
The List!
..And then there are two shelters in the
park which can be served, and yes, there are rest rooms nearby,
Good thing... ;)Iowa DNR tends to frown on the alternative!
The staying at flood stage for so long is extremely rare - closer to
never. Normally the rivers, etc., do a normal yearly drop of their
water level, which drains the water table to where it belongs and the
road beds are emptied. Just lots of rain, enough to keep the water
levels up near/slightly over flooding and not drop back to normal
river levels.
Let's hope that it isn't a new normal... and that things will be
back to the more expected next year...!
They're already issuing flood predictions for next year; I haven't
taken the time to read them yet.
That sounds scary... unless they are predicting much less next yearI don't recall a predicted depth other than less than this year's but still going to be flooding.
than this year....
Right. I have seen houses moved -- slowly creeping down the street in
two or three portions. (Originally had 'pieces' - seemed not quite
appriopriate!) Probably impossible to move most of the business
buildings as just too large. Building replacements would be a
nightmare: currently the buildings fit together and the business owner
makes do with what they have. If moving most would be doing the "it
would be nice to have extra room" or sometimes a little less room, so
the current jigsaw fit is lost.
Yup, does sound like a nightmare... I've actually seen some wholeYes, would seem the jacking up on to the trailers would be the most heart-stopping portion, followed closely by the setting down on to the
(fairly large) houses moved down the street to a new location, but
it's a major operation, and probably more than a little risky that
everything would survive the move without some damage....
new location. The actual moving to the new location probably isn't
too bad as the house is on the trailer.
We've been roughly ten degrees cooler than normal the past and current
week. Next week is suppose to be warmer than it has been but still a
little cooler than normal. Right now 35ø and last I heard a 3 mile
visibility with the fog. Supposed to rain around noon.
And the last couple of days here, it's actually been in the high33ø this morning with the high only in the upper 30's. The Wednesday before Thanksgiving (so two days ago as I write this) did get the
50s...! We actually did get our Indian (late) Spring finally... not
quite the Indian Summer that would have been nice, but it is the end
of November, after all... ;) Today is back in the 30s, and tomorrow
is supposed to be likewise... then maybe back in the 40s for the
beginning of next week...
50-60 MPH wind gusts but the predicted for later 70-75 MPH didn't
occur, or at least locally. One power glitch at almost exactly noon
did get the UPSs excited but other than that just a couple of quick
flips.
I'll use a sweater jacket for the fall, most of the winter, andWe always knew you were hot stuff!! <gg>
then again in the spring... When it's a little warmer, I wear a
short sleeved shirt under my dresses... and when cooler, switch
to long-sleeved... And when colder yet, actually zip up the
sweater... ;) Only when the temps get below zero F do I switch
to the winter jacket... usually that one's too warm for me... :)
In the summer, I tend to switch to the shorter length sleeveless
sundresses...
... Question: What would happen if I put a Moebius strip in a paper shredder?
Just got a refill on on my coffee and heard this announcment on the
radio: "Thanks for listening to KIIK ["kick"] one-oh-four-nine at work
-- that means you haven't been fired yet." Obviously tongue-in-cheek.
Cute... And the second-thought kicking in... but, I'm listening
at home...... <G>
Actually for that specific area might be more fun to research what's
there currently. Corner is essentially a tiny park, though would seem
like a good place for a gas station, convenience store (there is one
across the street). (We don't need another gas station/convenience
store, and overall I prefer seeing the grass and trees there -- cue
Joni Mitchell and "they paved paradise".) Next "lot" over is what I'm
slightly curious about: largish flattened mound with a short yagi-style
sticking out of it. Maybe three feet off the ground; looks like a
regular TV antenna. Not-so-secret bunker?! Too far away from the creek
to be monitoring that.
That does sound like an interesting corner... :)
I had looked on Google Maps and nothing identified. Have been told
that area used to be road for a gentle curve from the E-W Kimberly Rd.
to the N-S one; was modified when the interchange with I-74 was
constructed (I think early 70''s -- before I moved out here). Doesn't
explain the 'secret bunker' thing.
That's the sort of thing that the local history library might haveAre you trying to get me off my computer chair?! It'll probably end
the information on... :)
up being something boring like a part of the sewer system. OTOH.... :)
You'll not know unless you check it out.... :) Schedule a trip
to the library with your errands some day when there's a little
more time available... :)
Was looking up Duck Creek Lodge and for their gazebo area (separate
from the house) has a seating capacity of 40 with no additional chairs
allowed; the house portion has a capacity of 110 but I didn't see
mention of who provides the seating, tables, etc. (Probably noted in
the reservations section.)
If they do, then it's closer to what we call a party house...I don't think they provide the food, or at least the two events for
especially if they also provide the food and the service.... :)
which I've attended a function there was catered. Another thing for
The List!
Yup... :) I'm also curious now as to whether or not you actually
do have anything that really is equivalent to our party
houses.... Some of the ones here only do the big parties, but
there are some that bill themselves as a party house and
restaurant.... and would also serve meals there to individual
smaller groups like families or couples or such, and have a party
room or two off to the side.... :)
The staying at flood stage for so long is extremely rare - closer to
never. Normally the rivers, etc., do a normal yearly drop of their
water level, which drains the water table to where it belongs and the
road beds are emptied. Just lots of rain, enough to keep the water
levels up near/slightly over flooding and not drop back to normal
river levels.
Let's hope that it isn't a new normal... and that things will be
back to the more expected next year...!
They're already issuing flood predictions for next year; I haven't
taken the time to read them yet.
That sounds scary... unless they are predicting much less next yearI don't recall a predicted depth other than less than this year's but still going to be flooding.
than this year....
Less than is at least a hopeful start.... ;) But they'd better
get their coping with flooding plans well into place in the
meantime... :)
Right. I have seen houses moved -- slowly creeping down the street in
two or three portions. (Originally had 'pieces' - seemed not quite
appriopriate!) Probably impossible to move most of the business
buildings as just too large. Building replacements would be a
nightmare: currently the buildings fit together and the business owner
makes do with what they have. If moving most would be doing the "it
would be nice to have extra room" or sometimes a little less room, so
the current jigsaw fit is lost.
Yup, does sound like a nightmare... I've actually seen some wholeYes, would seem the jacking up on to the trailers would be the most heart-stopping portion, followed closely by the setting down on to the
(fairly large) houses moved down the street to a new location, but
it's a major operation, and probably more than a little risky that
everything would survive the move without some damage....
new location. The actual moving to the new location probably isn't
too bad as the house is on the trailer.
The jostling could also cause problems.... I've only seen them
going (very slowly) down the road, haven't been around for the
lifting or the setting down parts.... ;)
33ø this morning with the high only in the upper 30's. The Wednesday before Thanksgiving (so two days ago as I write this) did get the
50-60 MPH wind gusts but the predicted for later 70-75 MPH didn't
occur, or at least locally. One power glitch at almost exactly noon
did get the UPSs excited but other than that just a couple of quick
flips.
Not too bad, then.... We had similar, maybe 55mph, gusts but not
too much of them... There'd been rumors of higher, but they were elsewhere in the region if they occurred.... No power glitches at
all...
I'll use a sweater jacket for the fall, most of the winter, andWe always knew you were hot stuff!! <gg>
then again in the spring... When it's a little warmer, I wear a
short sleeved shirt under my dresses... and when cooler, switch
to long-sleeved... And when colder yet, actually zip up the
sweater... ;) Only when the temps get below zero F do I switch
to the winter jacket... usually that one's too warm for me... :)
In the summer, I tend to switch to the shorter length sleeveless
sundresses...
Thanks, I think.... <G>
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 04-Dec-2019 09:02 <=-
Just got a refill on on my coffee and heard this announcment on the
radio: "Thanks for listening to KIIK ["kick"] one-oh-four-nine at work
-- that means you haven't been fired yet." Obviously tongue-in-cheek.
Cute... And the second-thought kicking in... but, I'm listeningHeck, I'm retired! Hope I can't be fired from retirement!!
at home...... <G>
Next "lot" over is what I'm slightly curious about: largish flattened
mound with a short yagi-style sticking out of it. Maybe three feet
off the ground; looks like a regular TV antenna. Not-so-secret
bunker?! Too far away from the creek to be monitoring that.
That does sound like an interesting corner... :)
I had looked on Google Maps and nothing identified. Have been told
that area used to be road for a gentle curve from the E-W Kimberly Rd.
to the N-S one; was modified when the interchange with I-74 was
constructed (I think early 70''s -- before I moved out here). Doesn't
explain the 'secret bunker' thing.
That's the sort of thing that the local history library might have
the information on... :)
Are you trying to get me off my computer chair?! It'll probably end
up being something boring like a part of the sewer system. OTOH.... :)
You'll not know unless you check it out.... :) Schedule a trip toLet's see: is that the schedule on calendar hanging or the electronic one....? I think about that over a nap! <g> Actually might be a
the library with your errands some day when there's a little more
time available... :)
useful project for later when Autumn needs to go to the Library and I
need something to occupy my time.
<Party Houses>
Yup... :) I'm also curious now as to whether or not you actually doI'm thinking what you have in New York as a Party House doesn't exist
have anything that really is equivalent to our party houses.... Some
of the ones here only do the big parties, but there are some that
bill themselves as a party house and restaurant.... and would also
serve meals there to individual smaller groups like families or
couples or such, and have a party room or two off to the side.... :)
as such out here. Closest equivalent would be renting something the lodges at Duck Creek or Credit Island Parks, but as a pot luck or
catered. There are of course banquet rooms, AFAIK generally part of a hotel, but that's different from your Party House.
The staying at flood stage for so long is extremely rare - closer to
never. Normally the rivers, etc., do a normal yearly drop of their
water level, which drains the water table to where it belongs and the
road beds are emptied. Just lots of rain, enough to keep the water
levels up near/slightly over flooding and not drop back to normal
river levels.
Let's hope that it isn't a new normal... and that things will be
back to the more expected next year...!
They're already issuing flood predictions for next year; I haven't
taken the time to read them yet.
That sounds scary... unless they are predicting much less next year
than this year....
I don't recall a predicted depth other than less than this year's but
still going to be flooding.
Less than is at least a hopeful start.... ;) But they'd better getDefinitely!! Just because it happened last year and probably not next year doesn't mean it won't happen again. Some time back (early
their coping with flooding plans well into place in the meantime... :)
2000's?) there were two "100 Year Floods" back to back. People were complaining how they could be called a 100 Year Flood when occurred in much less than 100 years. They were taking the name literally; really meant on average only flooded like that once a century. So yes, even though the flooding is done with for now it will come back and they need to be prepared.
Yup, does sound like a nightmare... I've actually seen some whole
(fairly large) houses moved down the street to a new location, but
it's a major operation, and probably more than a little risky that
everything would survive the move without some damage....
Yes, would seem the jacking up on to the trailers would be the most
heart-stopping portion, followed closely by the setting down on to the
new location. The actual moving to the new location probably isn't
too bad as the house is on the trailer.
The jostling could also cause problems.... I've only seen them goingI've see the moving down the road part and the preparation part: house ready to be dropped (bad word choice!) to the new basement but never
(very slowly) down the road, haven't been around for the lifting or
the setting down parts.... ;)
the actual transfer: neighbour's house diagonally across the street
from where I grew up was moved, I think from where a shopping center
was created. Missed the move as had to go to school; no such thing or never thought of home video recording.
Just got a refill on on my coffee and heard this announcment on the
radio: "Thanks for listening to KIIK ["kick"] one-oh-four-nine at work
-- that means you haven't been fired yet." Obviously tongue-in-cheek.
Cute... And the second-thought kicking in... but, I'm listeningHeck, I'm retired! Hope I can't be fired from retirement!!
at home...... <G>
Nope.... and that's one less thing to worry about... :)
Next "lot" over is what I'm slightly curious about: largish flattened
mound with a short yagi-style sticking out of it. Maybe three feet
off the ground; looks like a regular TV antenna. Not-so-secret
bunker?! Too far away from the creek to be monitoring that.
That does sound like an interesting corner... :)
I had looked on Google Maps and nothing identified. Have been told
that area used to be road for a gentle curve from the E-W Kimberly Rd.
to the N-S one; was modified when the interchange with I-74 was
constructed (I think early 70''s -- before I moved out here). Doesn't
explain the 'secret bunker' thing.
That's the sort of thing that the local history library might have
the information on... :)
Are you trying to get me off my computer chair?! It'll probably end
up being something boring like a part of the sewer system. OTOH.... :)
You'll not know unless you check it out.... :) Schedule a trip toLet's see: is that the schedule on calendar hanging or the electronic one....? I think about that over a nap! <g> Actually might be a
the library with your errands some day when there's a little more
time available... :)
useful project for later when Autumn needs to go to the Library and I
need something to occupy my time.
Now there's an idea.... probably even a good one... :)
<Party Houses>
Yup... :) I'm also curious now as to whether or not you actually doI'm thinking what you have in New York as a Party House doesn't exist
have anything that really is equivalent to our party houses.... Some
of the ones here only do the big parties, but there are some that
bill themselves as a party house and restaurant.... and would also
serve meals there to individual smaller groups like families or
couples or such, and have a party room or two off to the side.... :)
as such out here. Closest equivalent would be renting something the lodges at Duck Creek or Credit Island Parks, but as a pot luck or
catered. There are of course banquet rooms, AFAIK generally part of a hotel, but that's different from your Party House.
The banquet rooms are getting closer to what we have.... If you
had something like that not part of a hotel (or a convention
center), but with its own kitchen and staff, that's pretty much
what I'm talking about... You might have something of the sort,
but never run across it yet.... or maybe there's less need for
that where you are... :)
The staying at flood stage for so long is extremely rare - closer to
never. Normally the rivers, etc., do a normal yearly drop of their
water level, which drains the water table to where it belongs and the
road beds are emptied. Just lots of rain, enough to keep the water
levels up near/slightly over flooding and not drop back to normal
river levels.
Let's hope that it isn't a new normal... and that things will be
back to the more expected next year...!
They're already issuing flood predictions for next year; I haven't
taken the time to read them yet.
That sounds scary... unless they are predicting much less next year
than this year....
I don't recall a predicted depth other than less than this year's but
still going to be flooding.
Less than is at least a hopeful start.... ;) But they'd better getDefinitely!! Just because it happened last year and probably not next year doesn't mean it won't happen again. Some time back (early
their coping with flooding plans well into place in the meantime... :)
2000's?) there were two "100 Year Floods" back to back. People were complaining how they could be called a 100 Year Flood when occurred in much less than 100 years. They were taking the name literally; really meant on average only flooded like that once a century. So yes, even though the flooding is done with for now it will come back and they need to be prepared.
Yup. Besides, a lot of things aren't really totally predictable,
much as we could wish they were.... :)
Yup, does sound like a nightmare... I've actually seen some whole
(fairly large) houses moved down the street to a new location, but
it's a major operation, and probably more than a little risky that
everything would survive the move without some damage....
Yes, would seem the jacking up on to the trailers would be the most
heart-stopping portion, followed closely by the setting down on to the
new location. The actual moving to the new location probably isn't
too bad as the house is on the trailer.
The jostling could also cause problems.... I've only seen them goingI've see the moving down the road part and the preparation part: house ready to be dropped (bad word choice!) to the new basement but never
(very slowly) down the road, haven't been around for the lifting or
the setting down parts.... ;)
the actual transfer: neighbour's house diagonally across the street
from where I grew up was moved, I think from where a shopping center
was created. Missed the move as had to go to school; no such thing or never thought of home video recording.
Probably at least the latter... although also possible that it
was before home videos were common at least, or even available
yet....
Just got a refill on on my coffee and heard this announcment on the
radio: "Thanks for listening to KIIK ["kick"] one-oh-four-nine at work
-- that means you haven't been fired yet." Obviously tongue-in-cheek.
Cute... And the second-thought kicking in... but, I'm listening
at home...... <G>
Heck, I'm retired! Hope I can't be fired from retirement!!
Nope.... and that's one less thing to worry about... :)Wasn't all that concerned when I was working, though sometimes the corporate-speak did seem to go overboard for generally minor
infractions: punishment for being late had "up to an including termination" tacked to it.
If one isn't likely to be committing such infractions, there's
not much to be concerned about.... :)
That's the sort of thing that the local history library might have
the information on... :)
Are you trying to get me off my computer chair?! It'll probably end
up being something boring like a part of the sewer system. OTOH.... :)
You'll not know unless you check it out.... :) Schedule a trip to
the library with your errands some day when there's a little more
time available... :)
Let's see: is that the schedule on calendar hanging or the electronic
one....? I think about that over a nap! <g> Actually might be a
useful project for later when Autumn needs to go to the Library and I
need something to occupy my time.
Now there's an idea.... probably even a good one... :)Now just to have her learn to read: she can recognize her name -- had
to not write out her name on the box with her Christmas presents in it!
She's making progress.... :) You could be taking her to library already... there's plenty of picture books in the Children's
Section that she could spend time with.... ;)
<Party Houses>
Yup... :) I'm also curious now as to whether or not you actually do
have anything that really is equivalent to our party houses.... Some
of the ones here only do the big parties, but there are some that
bill themselves as a party house and restaurant.... and would also
serve meals there to individual smaller groups like families or
couples or such, and have a party room or two off to the side.... :)
I'm thinking what you have in New York as a Party House doesn't exist
as such out here. Closest equivalent would be renting something the
lodges at Duck Creek or Credit Island Parks, but as a pot luck or
catered. There are of course banquet rooms, AFAIK generally part of a
hotel, but that's different from your Party House.
The banquet rooms are getting closer to what we have.... If you hadOr I'm just less of a partyer! <g> I'm pretty sure we have something close to your "party house" out here.
something like that not part of a hotel (or a convention center), but
with its own kitchen and staff, that's pretty much what I'm talking
about... You might have something of the sort, but never run across
it yet.... or maybe there's less need for that where you are... :)
I'm not much of a partyer, either... but have managed to notice
some of the places around here... :)
I don't recall a predicted depth other than less than this year's but
still going to be flooding.
Less than is at least a hopeful start.... ;) But they'd better get
their coping with flooding plans well into place in the meantime... :)
Definitely!! Just because it happened last year and probably not next
year doesn't mean it won't happen again. Some time back (early
2000's?) there were two "100 Year Floods" back to back. People were
complaining how they could be called a 100 Year Flood when occurred in
much less than 100 years. They were taking the name literally; really
meant on average only flooded like that once a century. So yes, even
though the flooding is done with for now it will come back and they need
to be prepared.
Yup. Besides, a lot of things aren't really totally predictable,Right: Mother Nature likes to give us those surprises every so often.
much as we could wish they were.... :)
Feast or famine, drought or flood... never know for sure what
might be coming when... ;)
I've seen the moving down the road part and the preparation part: house
ready to be dropped (bad word choice!) to the new basement but never
the actual transfer: neighbour's house diagonally across the street
from where I grew up was moved, I think from where a shopping center
was created. Missed the move as had to go to school; no such thing or
never thought of home video recording.
Probably at least the latter... although also possible that it wasAbout a little over a decade before: "Sony released the first consumer camcorder in 1983", Betamax format. The house I'm thinking of was
before home videos were common at least, or even available yet....
moved in probably the early 70's.
Ah, good guess on my part, then... :)
... I'm sure everything I can't find is in a safe place
somewhere.
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 21-Dec-2019 09:39 <=-
Heck, I'm retired! Hope I can't be fired from retirement!!
Nope.... and that's one less thing to worry about... :)
Wasn't all that concerned when I was working, though sometimes the
corporate-speak did seem to go overboard for generally minor
infractions: punishment for being late had "up to and including
termination" tacked to it.
If one isn't likely to be committing such infractions, there's notAgree, no, not likely to happen, just I tend to take it a little
much to be concerned about.... :)
literally and so as a threat. There's an accident, road blocked,
don't make to work on time and so fired.
There were some people who lived on the Illinois side, so always had
to use the bridges to get to the store on the Iowa side. One of the problems is the current I-74 bridge is only two lanes each direction
and no breakdown lanes -- even emergency responders have to come from
the wrong direction to get to the accident site. Next bridge
downriver is the Government Bridge which is a swingspan: that could
be open to allow river traffic through. Next bridge is Centennial
-- that one doesn't move but still could have traffic issues. Next bridges outside the immediate area are miles of detour.
Actually might be a useful project for later when Autumn needs to
go to the Library and I need something to occupy my time.
Now there's an idea.... probably even a good one... :)
Now just to have her learn to read: she can recognize her name -- had
to not write out her name on the box with her Christmas presents in it!
She's making progress.... :) You could be taking her to libraryShe still separates her time depending on where she is: Pop-Pop time (here) originally had nothing to do with school/learning. Recently a
already... there's plenty of picture books in the Children's Section
that she could spend time with.... ;)
few times when she is the teacher (and a slightly mean one!!) teaching
the stuffed animals their letters, easy words, numbers and some simple math. So in the past going to the Library from here wasn't really a
play option; things are changing so might be some time next year --
play by ear.
<Party Houses>
I'm thinking what you have in New York as a Party House doesn't exist
as such out here. Closest equivalent would be renting something the
lodges at Duck Creek or Credit Island Parks, but as a pot luck or
catered. There are of course banquet rooms, AFAIK generally part of a
hotel, but that's different from your Party House.
The banquet rooms are getting closer to what we have.... If you had
something like that not part of a hotel (or a convention center), but
with its own kitchen and staff, that's pretty much what I'm talking
about... You might have something of the sort, but never run across
it yet.... or maybe there's less need for that where you are... :)
Or I'm just less of a partyer! <g> I'm pretty sure we have something
close to your "party house" out here.
I'm not much of a partyer, either... but have managed to notice someMight be advertised for holiday functions.
of the places around here... :)
So yes, even though the flooding is done with for now it will come
back and they need to be prepared.
Yup. Besides, a lot of things aren't really totally predictable,
much as we could wish they were.... :)
Right: Mother Nature likes to give us those surprises every so often.
Feast or famine, drought or flood... never know for sure whatJust try to be prepared.
might be coming when... ;)
... I'm sure everything I can't find is in a safe place somewhere.<chuckle> I've been half-looking for an older UPS. For some reason
there has been a concern of if the power goes out for an extended time
and the need for a battery-powered TV. "Have to get one that runs off batteries!" "Just use one we have with a 12v input and one of the
spare UPS batteries...."
So I need to get that little project together. Relatively simple but
as I have had a cold this past week not all that interested in
'chilling' in the cold basement. Sort of 'geekin' it' by thinking of using that old UPS to charge the battery and use as a container -- the 120v output didn't work which is why I pulled it. Instructions
indicates there's a fuse on the circuit board but I haven't found.
Then I'm thinking may be just as easy to use a solar cell I have downstairs as the charging source - plug and unplug -- could charge another battery....
Heck, I'm retired! Hope I can't be fired from retirement!!
Nope.... and that's one less thing to worry about... :)
Wasn't all that concerned when I was working, though sometimes the
corporate-speak did seem to go overboard for generally minor
infractions: punishment for being late had "up to and including
termination" tacked to it.
If one isn't likely to be committing such infractions, there's notAgree, no, not likely to happen, just I tend to take it a little
much to be concerned about.... :)
literally and so as a threat. There's an accident, road blocked,
don't make to work on time and so fired.
I'm sure that would be at the other end of the scale...
extenuating circumstances and all that.... I'd guess that the
"including termination" part would be more for the habitually
late, generally without much of a valid excuse, type of
situation....
There were some people who lived on the Illinois side, so always had
to use the bridges to get to the store on the Iowa side. One of the problems is the current I-74 bridge is only two lanes each direction
and no breakdown lanes -- even emergency responders have to come from
the wrong direction to get to the accident site. Next bridge
downriver is the Government Bridge which is a swingspan: that could
be open to allow river traffic through. Next bridge is Centennial
-- that one doesn't move but still could have traffic issues. Next bridges outside the immediate area are miles of detour.
Again, I'd hope that that sort of incident would also have been
treated as extenuating circumstance.... :)
Actually might be a useful project for later when Autumn needs to
go to the Library and I need something to occupy my time.
Now there's an idea.... probably even a good one... :)
Now just to have her learn to read: she can recognize her name -- had
to not write out her name on the box with her Christmas presents in it!
She's making progress.... :) You could be taking her to libraryShe still separates her time depending on where she is: Pop-Pop time (here) originally had nothing to do with school/learning. Recently a
already... there's plenty of picture books in the Children's Section
that she could spend time with.... ;)
few times when she is the teacher (and a slightly mean one!!) teaching
the stuffed animals their letters, easy words, numbers and some simple math. So in the past going to the Library from here wasn't really a
play option; things are changing so might be some time next year --
play by ear.
As she gets older you can expand her horizons a bit... ;)
... I'm sure everything I can't find is in a safe place somewhere.<chuckle> I've been half-looking for an older UPS. For some reason
there has been a concern of if the power goes out for an extended time
and the need for a battery-powered TV. "Have to get one that runs off batteries!" "Just use one we have with a 12v input and one of the
spare UPS batteries...."
So I need to get that little project together. Relatively simple but
as I have had a cold this past week not all that interested in
'chilling' in the cold basement. Sort of 'geekin' it' by thinking of using that old UPS to charge the battery and use as a container -- the 120v output didn't work which is why I pulled it. Instructions
indicates there's a fuse on the circuit board but I haven't found.
Then I'm thinking may be just as easy to use a solar cell I have downstairs as the charging source - plug and unplug -- could charge another battery....
You'll figure out something... :)
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 01-Jan-2020 08:51 <=-
Agree, no, not likely to happen, just I tend to take it a little
literally and so as a threat. There's an accident, road blocked,
don't make to work on time and so fired.
I'm sure that would be at the other end of the scale... extenuatingThough the over-all interpretation was late and <slice across throat motion>, even by the Loss Prevention Supervisor who lived on the
circumstances and all that.... I'd guess that the "including
termination" part would be more for the habitually late, generally
without much of a valid excuse, type of situation....
Illinois side and was part of the management meetings. And I remember
he specifically mentioned it to me and he knew I lived on the Iowa
side, and it was definitely he was concerned for himself and not a "if
I mention it to Barry he'll pass it on to others to get the word out".
There were some people who lived on the Illinois side, so always had
to use the bridges to get to the store on the Iowa side. One of the
problems is the current I-74 bridge is only two lanes each direction
and no breakdown lanes -- even emergency responders have to come from
the wrong direction to get to the accident site. Next bridge
downriver is the Government Bridge which is a swingspan: that could
be open to allow river traffic through. Next bridge is Centennial
-- that one doesn't move but still could have traffic issues. Next
bridges outside the immediate area are miles of detour.
Again, I'd hope that that sort of incident would also have beenTo me it would make sense. Warn and act on the ones who are
treated as extenuating circumstance.... :)
habitually late.
... I'm sure everything I can't find is in a safe place somewhere.
<chuckle> I've been half-looking for an older UPS. For some reason
there has been a concern of if the power goes out for an extended time
and the need for a battery-powered TV. "Have to get one that runs off
batteries!" "Just use one we have with a 12v input and one of the
spare UPS batteries...."
So I need to get that little project together. Relatively simple but
as I have had a cold this past week not all that interested in
'chilling' in the cold basement. Sort of 'geekin' it' by thinking of
using that old UPS to charge the battery and use as a container -- the
120v output didn't work which is why I pulled it. Instructions
indicates there's a fuse on the circuit board but I haven't found.
Then I'm thinking may be just as easy to use a solar cell I have
downstairs as the charging source - plug and unplug -- could charge
another battery....
You'll figure out something... :)Semi-sort-of did: small "spare" TV is powered by a 12vDC wall wart, so
a 12v battery will also work. Can be a car battery, except not that convenient to run a wire or haul the battery inside. I usually have a spare battery or two for the UPS here, so they're already inside and
easy to move around. Ordered and received some extension cables with
the correct DC connectors. Put those together yesterday, plus a
digital voltmeter to monitor the voltage level: drop below a certain voltage might damage the TV.
Only problem right now is recharging the battery. So that's why in an earlier message the looking around for a 'special' battery charger.
Also have a solar cell I bought ages ago -- it shows someone on the
beach using it to power a radio -- so will see if this will recharge
the battery. Yesterday was overcast and the solar cell was outputting only a few volts; Sun's out and looks like will be pretty bright so
will see how it works.
Agree, no, not likely to happen, just I tend to take it a little
literally and so as a threat. There's an accident, road blocked,
don't make to work on time and so fired.
I'm sure that would be at the other end of the scale... extenuatingThough the over-all interpretation was late and <slice across throat motion>, even by the Loss Prevention Supervisor who lived on the
circumstances and all that.... I'd guess that the "including
termination" part would be more for the habitually late, generally
without much of a valid excuse, type of situation....
Illinois side and was part of the management meetings. And I remember
he specifically mentioned it to me and he knew I lived on the Iowa
side, and it was definitely he was concerned for himself and not a "if
I mention it to Barry he'll pass it on to others to get the word out".
Then I'm certainly glad I didn't work for them... sounds more
like an over-reaction than a nuanced policy....
There were some people who lived on the Illinois side, so always had
to use the bridges to get to the store on the Iowa side. One of the
problems is the current I-74 bridge is only two lanes each direction
and no breakdown lanes -- even emergency responders have to come from
the wrong direction to get to the accident site. Next bridge
downriver is the Government Bridge which is a swingspan: that could
be open to allow river traffic through. Next bridge is Centennial
-- that one doesn't move but still could have traffic issues. Next
bridges outside the immediate area are miles of detour.
Again, I'd hope that that sort of incident would also have beenTo me it would make sense. Warn and act on the ones who are
treated as extenuating circumstance.... :)
habitually late.
It would certainly seem to be a more intelligent response.... If
they did follow thru and fire those who were late without any of
their own fault, I'd think it would open up the company to
lawsuits for unjust labor practices....
... I'm sure everything I can't find is in a safe place somewhere.
<chuckle> I've been half-looking for an older UPS. For some reason
there has been a concern of if the power goes out for an extended time
and the need for a battery-powered TV. "Have to get one that runs off
batteries!" "Just use one we have with a 12v input and one of the
spare UPS batteries...."
So I need to get that little project together. Relatively simple but
as I have had a cold this past week not all that interested in
'chilling' in the cold basement. Sort of 'geekin' it' by thinking of
using that old UPS to charge the battery and use as a container -- the
120v output didn't work which is why I pulled it. Instructions
indicates there's a fuse on the circuit board but I haven't found.
Then I'm thinking may be just as easy to use a solar cell I have
downstairs as the charging source - plug and unplug -- could charge
another battery....
You'll figure out something... :)Semi-sort-of did: small "spare" TV is powered by a 12vDC wall wart, so
a 12v battery will also work. Can be a car battery, except not that convenient to run a wire or haul the battery inside. I usually have a spare battery or two for the UPS here, so they're already inside and
easy to move around. Ordered and received some extension cables with
the correct DC connectors. Put those together yesterday, plus a
digital voltmeter to monitor the voltage level: drop below a certain voltage might damage the TV.
Only problem right now is recharging the battery. So that's why in an earlier message the looking around for a 'special' battery charger.
Also have a solar cell I bought ages ago -- it shows someone on the
beach using it to power a radio -- so will see if this will recharge
the battery. Yesterday was overcast and the solar cell was outputting only a few volts; Sun's out and looks like will be pretty bright so
will see how it works.
Did you get enough sun for that to work...?
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 08-Jan-2020 10:06 <=-
extenuating circumstances and all that.... I'd guess that the
"including termination" part would be more for the habitually late,
generally without much of a valid excuse, type of situation....
Though the over-all interpretation was late and <slice across throat
motion>, even by the Loss Prevention Supervisor who lived on the
Illinois side and was part of the management meetings. And I remember
he specifically mentioned it to me and he knew I lived on the Iowa
side, and it was definitely he was concerned for himself and not a "if
I mention it to Barry he'll pass it on to others to get the word out".
Then I'm certainly glad I didn't work for them... sounds more likeCorporate sometimes got a little overboard. At one time the dress
an over-reaction than a nuanced policy....
code was white or black shirts. OK, fine. Black shirt had white
buttons - nope! Had to be black buttons! What was 'funny' is the black shirts we had for sale had white buttons.
There were some people who lived on the Illinois side, so always had
to use the bridges to get to the store on the Iowa side. One of the
problems is the current I-74 bridge is only two lanes each direction
and no breakdown lanes -- even emergency responders have to come from
the wrong direction to get to the accident site. Next bridge
downriver is the Government Bridge which is a swingspan: that could
be open to allow river traffic through. Next bridge is Centennial
-- that one doesn't move but still could have traffic issues. Next
bridges outside the immediate area are miles of detour.
Again, I'd hope that that sort of incident would also have been
treated as extenuating circumstance.... :)
To me it would make sense. Warn and act on the ones who are
habitually late.
It would certainly seem to be a more intelligent response.... If theyThat comment was tossed about by some of the more vocal Illinois-side associates.
did follow thru and fire those who were late without any of their own
fault, I'd think it would open up the company to lawsuits for unjust
labor practices....
You'll figure out something... :)
Semi-sort-of did: small "spare" TV is powered by a 12vDC wall wart, so
a 12v battery will also work. Can be a car battery, except not that
convenient to run a wire or haul the battery inside. I usually have a
spare battery or two for the UPS here, so they're already inside and
easy to move around. Ordered and received some extension cables with
the correct DC connectors. Put those together yesterday, plus a
digital voltmeter to monitor the voltage level: drop below a certain
voltage might damage the TV.
Only problem right now is recharging the battery. So that's why in an
earlier message the looking around for a 'special' battery charger.
Also have a solar cell I bought ages ago -- it shows someone on the
beach using it to power a radio -- so will see if this will recharge
the battery. Yesterday was overcast and the solar cell was outputting
only a few volts; Sun's out and looks like will be pretty bright so
will see how it works.
Did you get enough sun for that to work...?So far no. There were a couple of sunnier days and appears the
problem is I need to lower the solar cell's position on the window: the top is shadowed. But First's and Round TuIts popped up.....
extenuating circumstances and all that.... I'd guess that the
"including termination" part would be more for the habitually late,
generally without much of a valid excuse, type of situation....
Though the over-all interpretation was late and <slice across throat
motion>, even by the Loss Prevention Supervisor who lived on the
Illinois side and was part of the management meetings. And I remember
he specifically mentioned it to me and he knew I lived on the Iowa
side, and it was definitely he was concerned for himself and not a "if
I mention it to Barry he'll pass it on to others to get the word out".
Then I'm certainly glad I didn't work for them... sounds more likeCorporate sometimes got a little overboard. At one time the dress
an over-reaction than a nuanced policy....
code was white or black shirts. OK, fine. Black shirt had white
buttons - nope! Had to be black buttons! What was 'funny' is the black shirts we had for sale had white buttons.
Yes, I remember your mentioning that before... and it would have
made sense to be able to wear the shirts you had for sale.... ;)
There were some people who lived on the Illinois side, so always had
to use the bridges to get to the store on the Iowa side. One of the
problems is the current I-74 bridge is only two lanes each direction
and no breakdown lanes -- even emergency responders have to come from
the wrong direction to get to the accident site. Next bridge
downriver is the Government Bridge which is a swingspan: that could
be open to allow river traffic through. Next bridge is Centennial
-- that one doesn't move but still could have traffic issues. Next
bridges outside the immediate area are miles of detour.
Again, I'd hope that that sort of incident would also have been
treated as extenuating circumstance.... :)
To me it would make sense. Warn and act on the ones who are
habitually late.
It would certainly seem to be a more intelligent response.... If theyThat comment was tossed about by some of the more vocal Illinois-side associates.
did follow thru and fire those who were late without any of their own
fault, I'd think it would open up the company to lawsuits for unjust
labor practices....
Did it ever actually happen, that you know of...?
You'll figure out something... :)
Semi-sort-of did: small "spare" TV is powered by a 12vDC wall wart, so
a 12v battery will also work. Can be a car battery, except not that
convenient to run a wire or haul the battery inside. I usually have a
spare battery or two for the UPS here, so they're already inside and
easy to move around. Ordered and received some extension cables with
the correct DC connectors. Put those together yesterday, plus a
digital voltmeter to monitor the voltage level: drop below a certain
voltage might damage the TV.
Only problem right now is recharging the battery. So that's why in an
earlier message the looking around for a 'special' battery charger.
Also have a solar cell I bought ages ago -- it shows someone on the
beach using it to power a radio -- so will see if this will recharge
the battery. Yesterday was overcast and the solar cell was outputting
only a few volts; Sun's out and looks like will be pretty bright so
will see how it works.
Did you get enough sun for that to work...?So far no. There were a couple of sunnier days and appears the
problem is I need to lower the solar cell's position on the window: the top is shadowed. But First's and Round TuIts popped up.....
Of course... At least you figured out the shadowing part....
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 14-Jan-2020 07:50 <=-
Then I'm certainly glad I didn't work for them... sounds more like
an over-reaction than a nuanced policy....
Corporate sometimes got a little overboard. At one time the dress
code was white or black shirts. OK, fine. Black shirt had white
buttons - nope! Had to be black buttons! What was 'funny' is the black
shirts we had for sale had white buttons.
Yes, I remember your mentioning that before... and it would haveCorporate did finally allow a tiny bit of colour on the buttons and seams/decoration.
made sense to be able to wear the shirts you had for sale.... ;)
To me it would make sense. Warn and act on the ones who are
habitually late.
It would certainly seem to be a more intelligent response.... If they
did follow thru and fire those who were late without any of their own
fault, I'd think it would open up the company to lawsuits for unjust
labor practices....
That comment was tossed about by some of the more vocal Illinois-side
associates.
Did it ever actually happen, that you know of...?I'm thinking a yes but can't remember to whom. Know for certain a
friend of mine in Large Appliances was right at the line and as he was
a really good performer the store management didn't want to see him go
for something so stupid so they begged and reminded him not to be late.
Semi-sort-of did: small "spare" TV is powered by a 12vDC wall wart, so
a 12v battery will also work. Can be a car battery, except not that
convenient to run a wire or haul the battery inside. I usually have a
spare battery or two for the UPS here, so they're already inside and
easy to move around. Ordered and received some extension cables with
the correct DC connectors. Put those together yesterday, plus a
digital voltmeter to monitor the voltage level: drop below a certain
voltage might damage the TV.
Only problem right now is recharging the battery. So that's why in an
earlier message the looking around for a 'special' battery charger.
Also have a solar cell I bought ages ago -- it shows someone on the
beach using it to power a radio -- so will see if this will recharge
the battery. Yesterday was overcast and the solar cell was outputting
only a few volts; Sun's out and looks like will be pretty bright so
will see how it works.
Did you get enough sun for that to work...?
So far no. There were a couple of sunnier days and appears the
problem is I need to lower the solar cell's position on the window: the
top is shadowed. But First's and Round TuIts popped up.....
Of course... At least you figured out the shadowing part....Though haven't done anything about it yet. Might also try it (the
solar cell) up here: this window gets full exposure to the Sun but has
the UV block so may not work. The potential bad storm has passed,
another storm coming in for the weekend but not as bad, plus ended up
with three charged batteries for the TV.
Then I'm certainly glad I didn't work for them... sounds more like
an over-reaction than a nuanced policy....
Corporate sometimes got a little overboard. At one time the dress
code was white or black shirts. OK, fine. Black shirt had white
buttons - nope! Had to be black buttons! What was 'funny' is the black
shirts we had for sale had white buttons.
Yes, I remember your mentioning that before... and it would haveCorporate did finally allow a tiny bit of colour on the buttons and seams/decoration.
made sense to be able to wear the shirts you had for sale.... ;)
Someone talked some sense into them, I guess... ;)
To me it would make sense. Warn and act on the ones who are
habitually late.
It would certainly seem to be a more intelligent response.... If they
did follow thru and fire those who were late without any of their own
fault, I'd think it would open up the company to lawsuits for unjust
labor practices....
That comment was tossed about by some of the more vocal Illinois-side
associates.
Did it ever actually happen, that you know of...?I'm thinking a yes but can't remember to whom. Know for certain a
friend of mine in Large Appliances was right at the line and as he was
a really good performer the store management didn't want to see him go
for something so stupid so they begged and reminded him not to be late.
And apparently he also made the effort to be on time pretty
much...
Semi-sort-of did: small "spare" TV is powered by a 12vDC wall wart, so
a 12v battery will also work. Can be a car battery, except not that
convenient to run a wire or haul the battery inside. I usually have a
spare battery or two for the UPS here, so they're already inside and
easy to move around. Ordered and received some extension cables with
the correct DC connectors. Put those together yesterday, plus a
digital voltmeter to monitor the voltage level: drop below a certain
voltage might damage the TV.
Only problem right now is recharging the battery. So that's why in an
earlier message the looking around for a 'special' battery charger.
Also have a solar cell I bought ages ago -- it shows someone on the
beach using it to power a radio -- so will see if this will recharge
the battery. Yesterday was overcast and the solar cell was outputting
only a few volts; Sun's out and looks like will be pretty bright so
will see how it works.
Did you get enough sun for that to work...?
So far no. There were a couple of sunnier days and appears the
problem is I need to lower the solar cell's position on the window: the
top is shadowed. But First's and Round TuIts popped up.....
Of course... At least you figured out the shadowing part....Though haven't done anything about it yet. Might also try it (the
solar cell) up here: this window gets full exposure to the Sun but has
the UV block so may not work. The potential bad storm has passed,
another storm coming in for the weekend but not as bad, plus ended up
with three charged batteries for the TV.
So less urgency to check out the solar option.... at least for
now...
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 22-Jan-2020 10:10 <=-
Had glanced at the preview of this message, hit the key sequences to
reply than cancelled and went back to read the header. Went back
because something didn't look right/caught my attention. The display
had shown "Message # 11100" -- the binary-like message number had
caught my attention. (BTW, it's the number of the message here; would have a different number at other sites.)
Then I'm certainly glad I didn't work for them... sounds more like
an over-reaction than a nuanced policy....
Corporate sometimes got a little overboard. At one time the dress
code was white or black shirts. OK, fine. Black shirt had white
buttons - nope! Had to be black buttons! What was 'funny' is the black
shirts we had for sale had white buttons.
Yes, I remember your mentioning that before... and it would have
made sense to be able to wear the shirts you had for sale.... ;)
Corporate did finally allow a tiny bit of colour on the buttons and
seams/decoration.
Someone talked some sense into them, I guess... ;)Or enough complaints from the smaller stores! The large stores
probably carried acceptable merchandise but us medium-sized stores did not.
Did it ever actually happen, that you know of...?
I'm thinking a yes but can't remember to whom. Know for certain a
friend of mine in Large Appliances was right at the line and as he was
a really good performer the store management didn't want to see him go
for something so stupid so they begged and reminded him not to be late.
And apparently he also made the effort to be on time pretty much...AFAIK yes. He was 'fiesty' enough where he would attempt to comply
within reason so leave early to compensate for a traffic slow-down and travel time to use a different bridge if a reported traffic jam but if
the traffic jam occurred after he left (so no notification) he would
fight any 'black marks'. I was aware of some of the activties but
didn't inquire: some times one is better to not know the details and
so could be helpful.
Also have a solar cell I bought ages ago -- it shows someone on the
beach using it to power a radio -- so will see if this will recharge
the battery. Yesterday was overcast and the solar cell was outputting
only a few volts; Sun's out and looks like will be pretty bright so
will see how it works.
Did you get enough sun for that to work...?
So far no. There were a couple of sunnier days and appears the
problem is I need to lower the solar cell's position on the window: the
top is shadowed. But First's and Round TuIts popped up.....
Of course... At least you figured out the shadowing part....
Though haven't done anything about it yet. Might also try it (the
solar cell) up here: this window gets full exposure to the Sun but has
the UV block so may not work. The potential bad storm has passed,
another storm coming in for the weekend but not as bad, plus ended up
with three charged batteries for the TV.
So less urgency to check out the solar option.... at least for now...<Chuckle> Yes, for now. Good news: I got the urge to straighten out
that part of the basement. Bad news: some of the mess is just moved
to a different location while being sorted. Good news: some of the
moved mess is waiting to be put out in next Monday's trash pickup.
Good news: found another solar charger which I brought up here to test,
so suppose the 'bad news' is haven't tested yet. (Need to find a Round TuIt!)
Was sort of checking out the original solar charger in the basement
window while doing my clean up: lowering it would get rid of the
shadow from the house but not sure if enough. At this point moved
stuff is in the way.
... Avenge yourself: live long enough to be a problem to your
children.
Had glanced at the preview of this message, hit the key sequences to
reply than cancelled and went back to read the header. Went back
because something didn't look right/caught my attention. The display
had shown "Message # 11100" -- the binary-like message number had
caught my attention. (BTW, it's the number of the message here; would have a different number at other sites.)
Cute... and right that it would be unique to your system... :)
If I just did the math right, that would be 56 in decimal....?
Then I'm certainly glad I didn't work for them... sounds more like
an over-reaction than a nuanced policy....
Corporate sometimes got a little overboard. At one time the dress
code was white or black shirts. OK, fine. Black shirt had white
buttons - nope! Had to be black buttons! What was 'funny' is the black
shirts we had for sale had white buttons.
Yes, I remember your mentioning that before... and it would have
made sense to be able to wear the shirts you had for sale.... ;)
Corporate did finally allow a tiny bit of colour on the buttons and
seams/decoration.
Someone talked some sense into them, I guess... ;)Or enough complaints from the smaller stores! The large stores
probably carried acceptable merchandise but us medium-sized stores did not.
True... that might have played into it... :)
Also have a solar cell I bought ages ago -- it shows someone on the
beach using it to power a radio -- so will see if this will recharge
the battery. Yesterday was overcast and the solar cell was outputting
only a few volts; Sun's out and looks like will be pretty bright so
will see how it works.
Did you get enough sun for that to work...?
So far no. There were a couple of sunnier days and appears the
problem is I need to lower the solar cell's position on the window: the
top is shadowed. But First's and Round TuIts popped up.....
Of course... At least you figured out the shadowing part....
Though haven't done anything about it yet. Might also try it (the
solar cell) up here: this window gets full exposure to the Sun but has
the UV block so may not work. The potential bad storm has passed,
another storm coming in for the weekend but not as bad, plus ended up
with three charged batteries for the TV.
So less urgency to check out the solar option.... at least for now...<Chuckle> Yes, for now. Good news: I got the urge to straighten out
that part of the basement. Bad news: some of the mess is just moved
to a different location while being sorted. Good news: some of the
moved mess is waiting to be put out in next Monday's trash pickup.
Good news: found another solar charger which I brought up here to test,
so suppose the 'bad news' is haven't tested yet. (Need to find a Round TuIt!)
Overall, not a bad set of affairs... ;) I see more positives
than not, there... ;) And useful to have a second solar charger
as long as it works, too... ;)
Was sort of checking out the original solar charger in the basement
window while doing my clean up: lowering it would get rid of the
shadow from the house but not sure if enough. At this point moved
stuff is in the way.
As long as you get it moved back out of the way fairly soon, it
shouldn't be much of a setback... ;) And it does sound like it
will be a trial and error sort of assessment...
... Avenge yourself: live long enough to be a problem to your
children.
That could backfire.... <G>
... Liquidity: when you look at your retirement funds and wet your pants.
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 30-Jan-2020 15:38 <=-
Had glanced at the preview of this message, hit the key sequences to
reply than cancelled and went back to read the header. Went back
because something didn't look right/caught my attention. The display
had shown "Message # 11100" -- the binary-like message number had
caught my attention. (BTW, it's the number of the message here; would
have a different number at other sites.)
Cute... and right that it would be unique to your system... :)28. 16 8 4 2 1
If I just did the math right, that would be 56 in decimal....?
56 is 111000 32 16 8 4 2 1
Corporate sometimes got a little overboard. At one time the dress
code was white or black shirts. OK, fine. Black shirt had white
buttons - nope! Had to be black buttons! What was 'funny' is the black
shirts we had for sale had white buttons.
Yes, I remember your mentioning that before... and it would have
made sense to be able to wear the shirts you had for sale.... ;)
Corporate did finally allow a tiny bit of colour on the buttons and
seams/decoration.
Someone talked some sense into them, I guess... ;)
Or enough complaints from the smaller stores! The large stores
probably carried acceptable merchandise but us medium-sized stores did
not.
True... that might have played into it... :)Probably. The ones making up the rules may have wandered the
departments (or sent a flunky) and came back with "yes, we have it" and forgot the other stores wouldn't carry all the merchandise. Or
intended to send and never did.
At least you figured out the shadowing part....
Though haven't done anything about it yet. Might also try it (the
solar cell) up here: this window gets full exposure to the Sun but has
the UV block so may not work. The potential bad storm has passed,
another storm coming in for the weekend but not as bad, plus ended up
with three charged batteries for the TV.
So less urgency to check out the solar option.... at least for now...
<Chuckle> Yes, for now. Good news: I got the urge to straighten out
that part of the basement. Bad news: some of the mess is just moved
to a different location while being sorted. Good news: some of the
moved mess is waiting to be put out in next Monday's trash pickup.
Good news: found another solar charger which I brought up here to test,
so suppose the 'bad news' is haven't tested yet. (Need to find a Round
TuIt!)
Overall, not a bad set of affairs... ;) I see more positives thanWhich I haven't tested yet. Still waiting for Round TuIt, though I
not, there... ;) And useful to have a second solar charger as long as
it works, too... ;)
might be able to give a more believable excuse as it's been cloudy outside. If the Sun does break through hides quickly. OTOH low Sun conditions would be a good test. ...Moved the box the solar charger
is in to 'slightly in the way' to remind me this afternoon.
Was sort of checking out the original solar charger in the basement
window while doing my clean up: lowering it would get rid of the
shadow from the house but not sure if enough. At this point moved
stuff is in the way.
As long as you get it moved back out of the way fairly soon, itAs I mentioned in an earlier message I'm (finally!!) cleaning up my Electronics Workbench Area. Part of the delay was no projects to work
shouldn't be much of a setback... ;) And it does sound like it will
be a trial and error sort of assessment...
on -- nice to have those teeny-tiny components so the device is
compact but can't hand-solder! (Imagine the size of your cellphone
with integrated circuits the size of a thumbdrive!) Plus some of the
old stuff I had been saving for parts, etc., is now just too old.
... Avenge yourself: live long enough to be a problem to your
children.
That could backfire.... <G>Wonder if I can find the tagline about the children are the ones
selecting the retirement home?!
Had glanced at the preview of this message, hit the key sequences to
reply than cancelled and went back to read the header. Went back
because something didn't look right/caught my attention. The display
had shown "Message # 11100" -- the binary-like message number had
caught my attention. (BTW, it's the number of the message here; would
have a different number at other sites.)
Cute... and right that it would be unique to your system... :)28. 16 8 4 2 1
If I just did the math right, that would be 56 in decimal....?
56 is 111000 32 16 8 4 2 1
Ah... I remembered wrong which place was which... I'd made the
last (first?) digit 2 instead of 1, I think.... never had to
calculate in binary, just was exposed to it later...
black BM>>>> shirts we had for sale had white buttons.Corporate sometimes got a little overboard. At one time the dress
code was white or black shirts. OK, fine. Black shirt had white
buttons - nope! Had to be black buttons! What was 'funny' is the
Yes, I remember your mentioning that before... and it would have
made sense to be able to wear the shirts you had for sale.... ;)
Corporate did finally allow a tiny bit of colour on the buttons and
seams/decoration.
Someone talked some sense into them, I guess... ;)
Or enough complaints from the smaller stores! The large stores
probably carried acceptable merchandise but us medium-sized stores did
not.
True... that might have played into it... :)Probably. The ones making up the rules may have wandered the
departments (or sent a flunky) and came back with "yes, we have it" and forgot the other stores wouldn't carry all the merchandise. Or
intended to send and never did.
A range of where the shortsightedness might have stemmed from...
At least you figured out the shadowing part....
Though haven't done anything about it yet. Might also try it (the
solar cell) up here: this window gets full exposure to the Sun but has
the UV block so may not work. The potential bad storm has passed,
another storm coming in for the weekend but not as bad, plus ended up
with three charged batteries for the TV.
So less urgency to check out the solar option.... at least for now...
<Chuckle> Yes, for now. Good news: I got the urge to straighten out
that part of the basement. Bad news: some of the mess is just moved
to a different location while being sorted. Good news: some of the
moved mess is waiting to be put out in next Monday's trash pickup.
Good news: found another solar charger which I brought up here to test,
so suppose the 'bad news' is haven't tested yet. (Need to find a Round
TuIt!)
Overall, not a bad set of affairs... ;) I see more positives thanWhich I haven't tested yet. Still waiting for Round TuIt, though I
not, there... ;) And useful to have a second solar charger as long as
it works, too... ;)
might be able to give a more believable excuse as it's been cloudy outside. If the Sun does break through hides quickly. OTOH low Sun conditions would be a good test. ...Moved the box the solar charger
is in to 'slightly in the way' to remind me this afternoon.
Any progress there...?
Was sort of checking out the original solar charger in the basement
window while doing my clean up: lowering it would get rid of the
shadow from the house but not sure if enough. At this point moved
stuff is in the way.
As long as you get it moved back out of the way fairly soon, itAs I mentioned in an earlier message I'm (finally!!) cleaning up my Electronics Workbench Area. Part of the delay was no projects to work
shouldn't be much of a setback... ;) And it does sound like it will
be a trial and error sort of assessment...
on -- nice to have those teeny-tiny components so the device is
compact but can't hand-solder! (Imagine the size of your cellphone
with integrated circuits the size of a thumbdrive!) Plus some of the
old stuff I had been saving for parts, etc., is now just too old.
So the But First list has dwindled down to Now This Project... ;)
... Avenge yourself: live long enough to be a problem to your
children.
That could backfire.... <G>Wonder if I can find the tagline about the children are the ones
selecting the retirement home?!
I've seen a pin with that on it... Be kind to your children,
they'll be choosing your retirement home... Dunno if I have a
tag with that either... :)
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 05-Feb-2020 08:39 <=-
because something didn't look right/caught my attention. The display
had shown "Message # 11100" -- the binary-like message number had
caught my attention. (BTW, it's the number of the message here; would
have a different number at other sites.)
Cute... and right that it would be unique to your system... :)
If I just did the math right, that would be 56 in decimal....?
28. 16 8 4 2 1
56 is 111000 32 16 8 4 2 1
Ah... I remembered wrong which place was which... I'd made the lastFor me more or less the same (surprise!! <g>). I have used the decimal-to-binary encoding to troubleshoot a TV (!!).
(first?) digit 2 instead of 1, I think.... never had to calculate in
binary, just was exposed to it later...
Heathkit offered electronics kits: computers, oscilloscopes, Ham radios, televisions, ... freezer failure alarms, water leak detectors....
Anyway, built a TV, the channel display was sometimes not quite right:
was supposed to display "Channel 4" and it would sometimes display something like "Chanbel 4". A little detective work and I found in
binary the problem was always because a specific line (connection) was supposed to be high (1) instead of low (0). Narrows down from around fourteen connections to two (seven wires, two ends). Yea! Resoldered both ends, no more display issues.
Yes, I remember your mentioning that before... and it would have
made sense to be able to wear the shirts you had for sale.... ;)
Corporate did finally allow a tiny bit of colour on the buttons and
seams/decoration.
Someone talked some sense into them, I guess... ;)
Or enough complaints from the smaller stores! The large stores
probably carried acceptable merchandise but us medium-sized stores
did not.
True... that might have played into it... :)
Probably. The ones making up the rules may have wandered the
departments (or sent a flunky) and came back with "yes, we have it" and
forgot the other stores wouldn't carry all the merchandise. Or
intended to send and never did.
A range of where the shortsightedness might have stemmed from...Yes. The 'clean look' of all-white or all-black was a good idea, just could not be properly implemented. It could be done, but at a cost,
and the cost was to the employees and the company as we would have to spend more money elsewhere (no assosicate discount) and the elsewhere meant we were not spending money with the company.
So less urgency to check out the solar option.... at least for now...
<Chuckle> Yes, for now. Good news: I got the urge to straighten out
that part of the basement. Bad news: some of the mess is just moved
to a different location while being sorted. Good news: some of the
moved mess is waiting to be put out in next Monday's trash pickup.
Good news: found another solar charger which I brought up here to
test, so suppose the 'bad news' is haven't tested yet. (Need to find
a Round TuIt!)
Overall, not a bad set of affairs... ;) I see more positives than
not, there... ;) And useful to have a second solar charger as long
as it works, too... ;)
Which I haven't tested yet. Still waiting for Round TuIt, though I
might be able to give a more believable excuse as it's been cloudy
outside. If the Sun does break through hides quickly. OTOH low Sun
conditions would be a good test. ...Moved the box the solar charger
is in to 'slightly in the way' to remind me this afternoon.
Any progress there...?<chuckle> Yes -- three or four days ago reported it wasn't working.
(This being behind in e-mail does have some disadvantages!) As I mentioned then, I think the primary problem is the UV Block in the windows: doesn't allow the Sun to fully activate the solar cells.
I had the same issue with a 'solar flashlight' I carried with me at
the store. To recharge I had to put it outside as it wouldn't
recharge through the window.
Was sort of checking out the original solar charger in the basement
window while doing my clean up: lowering it would get rid of the
shadow from the house but not sure if enough. At this point moved
stuff is in the way.
As long as you get it moved back out of the way fairly soon, it
shouldn't be much of a setback... ;) And it does sound like it will
be a trial and error sort of assessment...
As I mentioned in an earlier message I'm (finally!!) cleaning up my
Electronics Workbench Area. Part of the delay was no projects to work
on -- nice to have those teeny-tiny components so the device is
compact but can't hand-solder! (Imagine the size of your cellphone
with integrated circuits the size of a thumbdrive!) Plus some of the
old stuff I had been saving for parts, etc., is now just too old.
So the But First list has dwindled down to Now This Project... ;)For now! Plus I made a bit of a mess up here because of cleaning downstairs: some items downstairs currently make more sense to be up
here so were brought up. Need to sort but various interruptions.
... Avenge yourself: live long enough to be a problem to your
children.
That could backfire.... <G>
Wonder if I can find the tagline about the children are the ones
selecting the retirement home?!
I've seen a pin with that on it... Be kind to your children, they'llI think I looked in my collection while getting ready to pack the
be choosing your retirement home... Dunno if I have a tag with that
either... :)
reply into the REP but didn't find.
... Be nice to your kids: they select your nursing home.
because something didn't look right/caught my attention. The display
had shown "Message # 11100" -- the binary-like message number had
caught my attention. (BTW, it's the number of the message here; would
have a different number at other sites.)
Cute... and right that it would be unique to your system... :)
If I just did the math right, that would be 56 in decimal....?
28. 16 8 4 2 1
56 is 111000 32 16 8 4 2 1
Ah... I remembered wrong which place was which... I'd made the lastFor me more or less the same (surprise!! <g>). I have used the decimal-to-binary encoding to troubleshoot a TV (!!).
(first?) digit 2 instead of 1, I think.... never had to calculate in
binary, just was exposed to it later...
You may have mentioned that one before....
Heathkit offered electronics kits: computers, oscilloscopes, Ham radios, televisions, ... freezer failure alarms, water leak detectors....
Anyway, built a TV, the channel display was sometimes not quite right:
was supposed to display "Channel 4" and it would sometimes display something like "Chanbel 4". A little detective work and I found in
binary the problem was always because a specific line (connection) was supposed to be high (1) instead of low (0). Narrows down from around fourteen connections to two (seven wires, two ends). Yea! Resoldered both ends, no more display issues.
Just a bit arcane.... ;) but, I think I followed that.... even
if there's no chance I could replicate it... <G>
Yes, I remember your mentioning that before... and it would have
made sense to be able to wear the shirts you had for sale.... ;)
Corporate did finally allow a tiny bit of colour on the buttons and
seams/decoration.
Someone talked some sense into them, I guess... ;)
Or enough complaints from the smaller stores! The large stores
probably carried acceptable merchandise but us medium-sized stores
did not.
True... that might have played into it... :)
Probably. The ones making up the rules may have wandered the
departments (or sent a flunky) and came back with "yes, we have it" and
forgot the other stores wouldn't carry all the merchandise. Or
intended to send and never did.
A range of where the shortsightedness might have stemmed from...Yes. The 'clean look' of all-white or all-black was a good idea, just could not be properly implemented. It could be done, but at a cost,
and the cost was to the employees and the company as we would have to spend more money elsewhere (no assosicate discount) and the elsewhere meant we were not spending money with the company.
So, in hindsight, they were shooting themselves with the
policy... ;)
So less urgency to check out the solar option.... at least for now...
<Chuckle> Yes, for now. Good news: I got the urge to straighten out
that part of the basement. Bad news: some of the mess is just moved
to a different location while being sorted. Good news: some of the
moved mess is waiting to be put out in next Monday's trash pickup.
Good news: found another solar charger which I brought up here to
test, so suppose the 'bad news' is haven't tested yet. (Need to find
a Round TuIt!)
Overall, not a bad set of affairs... ;) I see more positives than
not, there... ;) And useful to have a second solar charger as long
as it works, too... ;)
Which I haven't tested yet. Still waiting for Round TuIt, though I
might be able to give a more believable excuse as it's been cloudy
outside. If the Sun does break through hides quickly. OTOH low Sun
conditions would be a good test. ...Moved the box the solar charger
is in to 'slightly in the way' to remind me this afternoon.
Any progress there...?<chuckle> Yes -- three or four days ago reported it wasn't working.
(This being behind in e-mail does have some disadvantages!) As I mentioned then, I think the primary problem is the UV Block in the windows: doesn't allow the Sun to fully activate the solar cells.
Yes, I remember answering that message.... :)
Was sort of checking out the original solar charger in the basement
window while doing my clean up: lowering it would get rid of the
shadow from the house but not sure if enough. At this point moved
stuff is in the way.
As long as you get it moved back out of the way fairly soon, it
shouldn't be much of a setback... ;) And it does sound like it will
be a trial and error sort of assessment...
As I mentioned in an earlier message I'm (finally!!) cleaning up my
Electronics Workbench Area. Part of the delay was no projects to work
on -- nice to have those teeny-tiny components so the device is
compact but can't hand-solder! (Imagine the size of your cellphone
with integrated circuits the size of a thumbdrive!) Plus some of the
old stuff I had been saving for parts, etc., is now just too old.
So the But First list has dwindled down to Now This Project... ;)For now! Plus I made a bit of a mess up here because of cleaning downstairs: some items downstairs currently make more sense to be up
here so were brought up. Need to sort but various interruptions.
Which is why projects always take longer than anticipated.... ;)
... Avenge yourself: live long enough to be a problem to your
children.
That could backfire.... <G>
Wonder if I can find the tagline about the children are the ones
selecting the retirement home?!
I've seen a pin with that on it... Be kind to your children, they'llI think I looked in my collection while getting ready to pack the
be choosing your retirement home... Dunno if I have a tag with that
either... :)
reply into the REP but didn't find.
I didn't find it in my collection...
... Be nice to your kids: they select your nursing home.
There it is.... ;)
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 09-Feb-2020 09:22 <=-
was supposed to display "Channel 4" and it would sometimes display
something like "Chanbel 4". A little detective work and I found in
binary the problem was always because a specific line (connection) was
supposed to be high (1) instead of low (0). Narrows down from around
fourteen connections to two (seven wires, two ends). Yea! Resoldered
both ends, no more display issues.
Just a bit arcane.... ;) but, I think I followed that.... evenProbably not! OTOH sort of a technical example of troubleshooting
if there's no chance I could replicate it... <G>
wiring errors. Pretty sure I told you about the electrical issues here and at a friend's aunt's place of wiring done by electricians which
failed (wire loosened). Test and notice a pattern as to what is
working and what is not working.
...And if one doesn't know what
they're doing better to leave alone and have a professional correct but one can still observe "this outlet works and these do not".
Probably. The ones making up the rules may have wandered the
departments (or sent a flunky) and came back with "yes, we have it" and
forgot the other stores wouldn't carry all the merchandise. Or
intended to send and never did.
A range of where the shortsightedness might have stemmed from...
Yes. The 'clean look' of all-white or all-black was a good idea, just
could not be properly implemented. It could be done, but at a cost,
and the cost was to the employees and the company as we would have to
spend more money elsewhere (no assosicate discount) and the elsewhere
meant we were not spending money with the company.
So, in hindsight, they were shooting themselves with the policy... ;)Yup! IIRC the origination of the policy was not to advertise other brands, as in brands we do not carry but then got extended a little
too far to the stitching.
Overall, not a bad set of affairs... ;) I see more positives than
not, there... ;) And useful to have a second solar charger as long
as it works, too... ;)
Which I haven't tested yet. Still waiting for Round TuIt, though I
might be able to give a more believable excuse as it's been cloudy
outside. If the Sun does break through hides quickly. OTOH low Sun
conditions would be a good test. ...Moved the box the solar charger
is in to 'slightly in the way' to remind me this afternoon.
Any progress there...?
<chuckle> Yes -- three or four days ago reported it wasn't working.
(This being behind in e-mail does have some disadvantages!) As I
mentioned then, I think the primary problem is the UV Block in the
windows: doesn't allow the Sun to fully activate the solar cells.
Yes, I remember answering that message.... :)Me too! <g> And believe it or not I'd be willing to retest with a different solar cell - but! And the 'but' being a checking out of if newer or a different type of cell works (generates electricity) with 'light' as opposed to requiring UV. I don't know enough about how
solar cells works -- know there are different LEDs: infrared, various colours of visibble light, don't know offhand if UV. Might be similar
for solar cells. OTOH might be cheaper and easier to mount on the
other side of the UV-blocking windows. Or just plug a charger into the wall outlet every so often.
As I mentioned in an earlier message I'm (finally!!) cleaning up my
Electronics Workbench Area. Part of the delay was no projects to work
on -- nice to have those teeny-tiny components so the device is
compact but can't hand-solder! (Imagine the size of your cellphone
with integrated circuits the size of a thumbdrive!) Plus some of the
old stuff I had been saving for parts, etc., is now just too old.
So the But First list has dwindled down to Now This Project... ;)
For now! Plus I made a bit of a mess up here because of cleaning
downstairs: some items downstairs currently make more sense to be up
here so were brought up. Need to sort but various interruptions.
Which is why projects always take longer than anticipated.... ;)In this case because worse than anticipated! <gg> Also sort of create
a mess while cleaning up another one: there were some PS/2 type
extension cables downstairs (for keyboards and mice - the round plug as opposed to the USB type). Knew they were down there; right now makes
more sense to bring the up here where the spare keyboards and mice are
- keep all together.
... Avenge yourself: live long enough to be a problem to your
children.
That could backfire.... <G>
Wonder if I can find the tagline about the children are the ones
selecting the retirement home?!
I've seen a pin with that on it... Be kind to your children, they'll
be choosing your retirement home... Dunno if I have a tag with that
either... :)
I think I looked in my collection while getting ready to pack the
reply into the REP but didn't find.
I didn't find it in my collection...
... Be nice to your kids: they select your nursing home.
There it is.... ;)You may have been doing the same thing I did and used "retire" as the search term.
was supposed to display "Channel 4" and it would sometimes display
something like "Chanbel 4". A little detective work and I found in
binary the problem was always because a specific line (connection) was
supposed to be high (1) instead of low (0). Narrows down from around
fourteen connections to two (seven wires, two ends). Yea! Resoldered
both ends, no more display issues.
Just a bit arcane.... ;) but, I think I followed that.... evenProbably not! OTOH sort of a technical example of troubleshooting
if there's no chance I could replicate it... <G>
wiring errors. Pretty sure I told you about the electrical issues here and at a friend's aunt's place of wiring done by electricians which
failed (wire loosened). Test and notice a pattern as to what is
working and what is not working.
Yes, I do believe you'd mentioned that before...
...And if one doesn't know what
they're doing better to leave alone and have a professional correct but one can still observe "this outlet works and these do not".
And observation can give a pretty good idea where the issues
are... whether or not one can do the fix... :)
Probably. The ones making up the rules may have wandered the
departments (or sent a flunky) and came back with "yes, we have it" and
forgot the other stores wouldn't carry all the merchandise. Or
intended to send and never did.
A range of where the shortsightedness might have stemmed from...
Yes. The 'clean look' of all-white or all-black was a good idea, just
could not be properly implemented. It could be done, but at a cost,
and the cost was to the employees and the company as we would have to
spend more money elsewhere (no assosicate discount) and the elsewhere
meant we were not spending money with the company.
So, in hindsight, they were shooting themselves with the policy... ;)Yup! IIRC the origination of the policy was not to advertise other brands, as in brands we do not carry but then got extended a little
too far to the stitching.
Just a bit too far.... ;)
Overall, not a bad set of affairs... ;) I see more positives than
not, there... ;) And useful to have a second solar charger as long
as it works, too... ;)
Which I haven't tested yet. Still waiting for Round TuIt, though I
might be able to give a more believable excuse as it's been cloudy
outside. If the Sun does break through hides quickly. OTOH low Sun
conditions would be a good test. ...Moved the box the solar charger
is in to 'slightly in the way' to remind me this afternoon.
Any progress there...?
<chuckle> Yes -- three or four days ago reported it wasn't working.
(This being behind in e-mail does have some disadvantages!) As I
mentioned then, I think the primary problem is the UV Block in the
windows: doesn't allow the Sun to fully activate the solar cells.
Yes, I remember answering that message.... :)Me too! <g> And believe it or not I'd be willing to retest with a different solar cell - but! And the 'but' being a checking out of if newer or a different type of cell works (generates electricity) with 'light' as opposed to requiring UV. I don't know enough about how
solar cells works -- know there are different LEDs: infrared, various colours of visibble light, don't know offhand if UV. Might be similar
for solar cells. OTOH might be cheaper and easier to mount on the
other side of the UV-blocking windows. Or just plug a charger into the wall outlet every so often.
That last does seem simplest... <G> But you do still have a
number of avenues to possibly pursue... :)
As I mentioned in an earlier message I'm (finally!!) cleaning up my
Electronics Workbench Area. Part of the delay was no projects to work
on -- nice to have those teeny-tiny components so the device is
compact but can't hand-solder! (Imagine the size of your cellphone
with integrated circuits the size of a thumbdrive!) Plus some of the
old stuff I had been saving for parts, etc., is now just too old.
So the But First list has dwindled down to Now This Project... ;)
For now! Plus I made a bit of a mess up here because of cleaning
downstairs: some items downstairs currently make more sense to be up
here so were brought up. Need to sort but various interruptions.
Which is why projects always take longer than anticipated.... ;)In this case because worse than anticipated! <gg> Also sort of create
a mess while cleaning up another one: there were some PS/2 type
extension cables downstairs (for keyboards and mice - the round plug as opposed to the USB type). Knew they were down there; right now makes
more sense to bring the up here where the spare keyboards and mice are
- keep all together.
And take less time to find them when you might need one... at
least potentially... ;)
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 16-Feb-2020 10:06 <=-
Just a bit arcane.... ;) but, I think I followed that.... even
if there's no chance I could replicate it... <G>
Probably not! OTOH sort of a technical example of troubleshooting
wiring errors. Pretty sure I told you about the electrical issues here
and at a friend's aunt's place of wiring done by electricians which
failed (wire loosened). Test and notice a pattern as to what is
working and what is not working.
Yes, I do believe you'd mentioned that before...Me? Repeat myself? Nahhh!! <g> ..OTOH that did remind me to write a reminder note: was told one of the area stations will require a rescan around March 17th. The station is affiliated with two local stations;
not sure about them but will be on the lookout; rescan should catch
but if too early ==> Channel 6 had done theirs at 11 a.m. while other local stations a little after midnight.
...And if one doesn't know what
they're doing better to leave alone and have a professional correct but
one can still observe "this outlet works and these do not".
And observation can give a pretty good idea where the issues are...Right. And sort of laughing because of an incident here years ago:
whether or not one can do the fix... :)
had the dining room/family walls redone. Paneling had been glued to
the drywall plus some other issues so had the old drywall removed and
new installed. We were at work; drywaller somehow discovers an outlet
no longer works so figures he broke it so goes to the hardware store,
buys and replaces the outlet -- still doesn't work. Tells us and apologizes where we get home. Ends up the problem is at a different outlet: "Outlet #4" doesn't work but the problem is the output
connection at "Outlet #3" had come loose.
#1 ==> #2 ==> #3x--> #4
Outlet #3 worked fine but the wire to Outlet #4 had loosened so no connection, no power to #4.
Yes, I remember answering that message.... :)
Me too! <g> And believe it or not I'd be willing to retest with a
different solar cell - but! And the 'but' being a checking out of if
newer or a different type of cell works (generates electricity) with
'light' as opposed to requiring UV. I don't know enough about how
solar cells works -- know there are different LEDs: infrared, various
colours of visibble light, don't know offhand if UV. Might be similar
for solar cells. OTOH might be cheaper and easier to mount on the
other side of the UV-blocking windows. Or just plug a charger into the
wall outlet every so often.
That last does seem simplest... <G> But you do still have a number ofYes, when there is grid power just plug in is the easiest and
avenues to possibly pursue... :)
simplest. My overbuild/worst case scenario options start kicking in,
plus reading when Daryl was without power for days, plus news accounts
of people without power for extended time and a solar option makes
sense. Or some sort of other power source option. The sunlight-through-the-glass-block-window-in-the-basement seems easiest:
UV should pass through the glass blocks (though too thick?), being
inside protects the solar cells, the location makes it easy for me to
hook up the battery. Just need to test later.
So the But First list has dwindled down to Now This Project... ;)
For now! Plus I made a bit of a mess up here because of cleaning
downstairs: some items downstairs currently make more sense to be up
here so were brought up. Need to sort but various interruptions.
Which is why projects always take longer than anticipated.... ;)
In this case because worse than anticipated! <gg> Also sort of create
a mess while cleaning up another one: there were some PS/2 type
extension cables downstairs (for keyboards and mice - the round plug as
opposed to the USB type). Knew they were down there; right now makes
more sense to bring the up here where the spare keyboards and mice are
- keep all together.
And take less time to find them when you might need one... at leastJust need to find the right box! <g> I do label, and right now
potentially... ;)
instead of writing on the boxes I fold a sheet of paper in half and
list the general contents on the paper which is hanging over the side
of the box. Easier and less messy looking to update the paper than scribble on the box.
Just a bit arcane.... ;) but, I think I followed that.... even
if there's no chance I could replicate it... <G>
Probably not! OTOH sort of a technical example of troubleshooting
wiring errors. Pretty sure I told you about the electrical issues here
and at a friend's aunt's place of wiring done by electricians which
failed (wire loosened). Test and notice a pattern as to what is
working and what is not working.
Yes, I do believe you'd mentioned that before...Me? Repeat myself? Nahhh!! <g> ..OTOH that did remind me to write a reminder note: was told one of the area stations will require a rescan around March 17th. The station is affiliated with two local stations;
not sure about them but will be on the lookout; rescan should catch
but if too early ==> Channel 6 had done theirs at 11 a.m. while other local stations a little after midnight.
Nothing really wrong with a little repetition... and reminders
are always good... ;) You might even hear something closer to
the rescan date about what time each will be happening....
...And if one doesn't know what
they're doing better to leave alone and have a professional correct but
one can still observe "this outlet works and these do not".
And observation can give a pretty good idea where the issues are...Right. And sort of laughing because of an incident here years ago:
whether or not one can do the fix... :)
had the dining room/family walls redone. Paneling had been glued to
the drywall plus some other issues so had the old drywall removed and
new installed. We were at work; drywaller somehow discovers an outlet
no longer works so figures he broke it so goes to the hardware store,
buys and replaces the outlet -- still doesn't work. Tells us and apologizes where we get home. Ends up the problem is at a different outlet: "Outlet #4" doesn't work but the problem is the output
connection at "Outlet #3" had come loose.
#1 ==> #2 ==> #3x--> #4
Outlet #3 worked fine but the wire to Outlet #4 had loosened so no connection, no power to #4.
Yup... you've told that story before too, but it's quite apt...
:) So you fixed the connection at #3 and everything worked
again... :)
sunlight-through-the-glass-block-window-in-the-basement seems easiest:
UV should pass through the glass blocks (though too thick?), being
inside protects the solar cells, the location makes it easy for me to
hook up the battery. Just need to test later.
Good question on whether the glass-block windows might be too
thick... definitely would need to test that out thoroughly....
but the other factors do sound promising... <G>
Just need to find the right box! <g> I do label, and right now
instead of writing on the boxes I fold a sheet of paper in half and
list the general contents on the paper which is hanging over the side
of the box. Easier and less messy looking to update the paper than scribble on the box.
That does make a lot of sense... :) And might be quicker to read
a sheet of paper along the side of the box rather having to move
boxes around to read the tops of them or something... ;)
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 23-Feb-2020 08:37 <=-
Yes, I do believe you'd mentioned that before...
Me? Repeat myself? Nahhh!! <g> ..OTOH that did remind me to write a
reminder note: was told one of the area stations will require a rescan
around March 17th. The station is affiliated with two local stations;
not sure about them but will be on the lookout; rescan should catch
but if too early ==> Channel 6 had done theirs at 11 a.m. while other
local stations a little after midnight.
Nothing really wrong with a little repetition... and reminders areYes: with me sometimes with the repeat I'll remember a detail I didn't catch before. As for the rescan, have a couple of people also looking
always good... ;) You might even hear something closer to the rescan
date about what time each will be happening....
for the date as they will have to rescan their TVs also.
...And if one doesn't know what they're
doing better to leave alone and have a professional correct but
one can still observe "this outlet works and these do not".
And observation can give a pretty good idea where the issues are...
whether or not one can do the fix... :)
Right. And sort of laughing because of an incident here years ago:
had the dining room/family walls redone. Paneling had been glued to
the drywall plus some other issues so had the old drywall removed and
new installed. We were at work; drywaller somehow discovers an outlet
no longer works so figures he broke it so goes to the hardware store,
buys and replaces the outlet -- still doesn't work. Tells us and
apologizes where we get home. Ends up the problem is at a different
outlet: "Outlet #4" doesn't work but the problem is the output
connection at "Outlet #3" had come loose.
#1 ==> #2 ==> #3x--> #4
Outlet #3 worked fine but the wire to Outlet #4 had loosened so no
connection, no power to #4.
Yup... you've told that story before too, but it's quite apt... :)Oh-oh! I'm on Summer Repeats like the TV networks?! As for the outlet repair, yes.
So you fixed the connection at #3 and everything worked again... :)
<solar cell to charge battery of bettery-powered TV>
sunlight-through-the-glass-block-window-in-the-basement seems easiest:
UV should pass through the glass blocks (though too thick?), being
inside protects the solar cells, the location makes it easy for me to
hook up the battery. Just need to test later.
Good question on whether the glass-block windows might be too thick...Yes, potential for the UV -- OK: I wasn't sure on the excitor:
definitely would need to test that out thoroughly.... but the other
factors do sound promising... <G>
figuring UV as IR didn't sound right. Quick scan of a couple of
articles and they say photons; could still be a preference for the high end of the visible light spectrum. Will see what happens when lower
the solar cell in the basement window to give it better light exposure
and see what happens.
Just need to find the right box! <g> I do label, and right now
instead of writing on the boxes I fold a sheet of paper in half and
list the general contents on the paper which is hanging over the side
of the box. Easier and less messy looking to update the paper than
scribble on the box.
That does make a lot of sense... :) And might be quicker to readRight: plus easier for me to write on paper and then move it to the
a sheet of paper along the side of the box rather having to move
boxes around to read the tops of them or something... ;)
box than on the side of the box ==> sort of a mild acrobatic to get
into the writing position! And with paper easy to update with a new sheet. (Though some have scratch-outs -- I'm not that picky!)
Yes, I do believe you'd mentioned that before...
Me? Repeat myself? Nahhh!! <g> ..OTOH that did remind me to write a
reminder note: was told one of the area stations will require a rescan
around March 17th. The station is affiliated with two local stations;
not sure about them but will be on the lookout; rescan should catch
but if too early ==> Channel 6 had done theirs at 11 a.m. while other
local stations a little after midnight.
Nothing really wrong with a little repetition... and reminders areYes: with me sometimes with the repeat I'll remember a detail I didn't catch before. As for the rescan, have a couple of people also looking
always good... ;) You might even hear something closer to the rescan
date about what time each will be happening....
for the date as they will have to rescan their TVs also.
So someone's likely to catch it... ;)
<solar cell to charge battery of bettery-powered TV>
sunlight-through-the-glass-block-window-in-the-basement seems easiest:
UV should pass through the glass blocks (though too thick?), being
inside protects the solar cells, the location makes it easy for me to
hook up the battery. Just need to test later.
Good question on whether the glass-block windows might be too thick...Yes, potential for the UV -- OK: I wasn't sure on the excitor:
definitely would need to test that out thoroughly.... but the other
factors do sound promising... <G>
figuring UV as IR didn't sound right. Quick scan of a couple of
articles and they say photons; could still be a preference for the high end of the visible light spectrum. Will see what happens when lower
the solar cell in the basement window to give it better light exposure
and see what happens.
It will be an interesting experiment, anyway... and possibly
productive as well... ;)
Just need to find the right box! <g> I do label, and right now
instead of writing on the boxes I fold a sheet of paper in half and
list the general contents on the paper which is hanging over the side
of the box. Easier and less messy looking to update the paper than
scribble on the box.
That does make a lot of sense... :) And might be quicker to readRight: plus easier for me to write on paper and then move it to the
a sheet of paper along the side of the box rather having to move
boxes around to read the tops of them or something... ;)
box than on the side of the box ==> sort of a mild acrobatic to get
into the writing position! And with paper easy to update with a new sheet. (Though some have scratch-outs -- I'm not that picky!)
Yup... when the scratchouts get too messy, just transfer the
proper info onto a new sheet of paper, and things are pretty
again... ;) And no contortions necessary (except for getting the
sheet of paper from the box)... :)
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 29-Feb-2020 08:58 <=-
OTOH that did remind me to write a reminder note: was told one of the
area stations will require a rescan around March 17th. The station
is affiliated with two local stations; not sure about them but will
be on the lookout; rescan should catch but if too early ==> Channel 6
had done theirs at 11 a.m. while other local stations a little after
midnight.
and reminders are always good... ;) You might even hear something
closer to the rescan date about what time each will be happening....
Yes: with me sometimes with the repeat I'll remember a detail I didn't
catch before. As for the rescan, have a couple of people also looking
for the date as they will have to rescan their TVs also.
So someone's likely to catch it... ;)And did: March 13th. <Looking at calendar> Well, if it doesn't go
right we know what to blame! <gg>
<solar cell to charge battery of bettery-powered TV>
sunlight-through-the-glass-block-window-in-the-basement seems easiest:
UV should pass through the glass blocks (though too thick?), being
inside protects the solar cells, the location makes it easy for me to
hook up the battery. Just need to test later.
Good question on whether the glass-block windows might be too thick...
definitely would need to test that out thoroughly.... but the other
factors do sound promising... <G>
Yes, potential for the UV -- OK: I wasn't sure on the excitor:
figuring UV as IR didn't sound right. Quick scan of a couple of
articles and they say photons; could still be a preference for the high
end of the visible light spectrum. Will see what happens when lower
the solar cell in the basement window to give it better light exposure
and see what happens.
It will be an interesting experiment, anyway... and possiblyYes: would be nice + handy if can place the solar unit in the basement window, but if not, just start looking for an outside location. LIS,
productive as well... ;)
the running of the wires may be a problem; may end up dropping that
option and going with the plan-ahead charge from the wall outlet.
Just need to find the right box! <g> I do label, and right now
instead of writing on the boxes I fold a sheet of paper in half and
list the general contents on the paper which is hanging over the side
of the box. Easier and less messy looking to update the paper than
scribble on the box.
That does make a lot of sense... :) And might be quicker to read
a sheet of paper along the side of the box rather having to move
boxes around to read the tops of them or something... ;)
Right: plus easier for me to write on paper and then move it to the
box than on the side of the box ==> sort of a mild acrobatic to get
into the writing position! And with paper easy to update with a new
sheet. (Though some have scratch-outs -- I'm not that picky!)
Yup... when the scratchouts get too messy, just transfer the proper<chuckle> Probably minimal as would tend to be working on that box
info onto a new sheet of paper, and things are pretty again... ;) And
no contortions necessary (except for getting the sheet of paper from
the box)... :)
and so on the floor or on a table. ...Now which box is the pen in??!!
OTOH that did remind me to write a reminder note: was told one of the
area stations will require a rescan around March 17th. The station
is affiliated with two local stations; not sure about them but will
be on the lookout; rescan should catch but if too early ==> Channel 6
had done theirs at 11 a.m. while other local stations a little after
midnight.
and reminders are always good... ;) You might even hear something
closer to the rescan date about what time each will be happening....
Yes: with me sometimes with the repeat I'll remember a detail I didn't
catch before. As for the rescan, have a couple of people also looking
for the date as they will have to rescan their TVs also.
So someone's likely to catch it... ;)And did: March 13th. <Looking at calendar> Well, if it doesn't go
right we know what to blame! <gg>
But Friday the 13th is a LUCKY day.... <G> At least my sister
would say so, she turned 13 on a Friday the 13th... ;)
<solar cell to charge battery of battery-powered TV>
sunlight-through-the-glass-block-window-in-the-basement seems easiest:
UV should pass through the glass blocks (though too thick?), being
inside protects the solar cells, the location makes it easy for me to
hook up the battery. Just need to test later.
Good question on whether the glass-block windows might be too thick...
definitely would need to test that out thoroughly.... but the other
factors do sound promising... <G>
Yes, potential for the UV -- OK: I wasn't sure on the excitor:
figuring UV as IR didn't sound right. Quick scan of a couple of
articles and they say photons; could still be a preference for the high
end of the visible light spectrum. Will see what happens when lower
the solar cell in the basement window to give it better light exposure
and see what happens.
It will be an interesting experiment, anyway... and possiblyYes: would be nice + handy if can place the solar unit in the basement window, but if not, just start looking for an outside location. LIS,
productive as well... ;)
the running of the wires may be a problem; may end up dropping that
option and going with the plan-ahead charge from the wall outlet.
Eventually you'll get it checked out... and its good to have a
backup plan as well... ;)
Just need to find the right box! <g> I do label, and right now
instead of writing on the boxes I fold a sheet of paper in half and
list the general contents on the paper which is hanging over the side
of the box. Easier and less messy looking to update the paper than
scribble on the box.
That does make a lot of sense... :) And might be quicker to read
a sheet of paper along the side of the box rather having to move
boxes around to read the tops of them or something... ;)
Right: plus easier for me to write on paper and then move it to the
box than on the side of the box ==> sort of a mild acrobatic to get
into the writing position! And with paper easy to update with a new
sheet. (Though some have scratch-outs -- I'm not that picky!)
Yup... when the scratchouts get too messy, just transfer the proper<chuckle> Probably minimal as would tend to be working on that box
info onto a new sheet of paper, and things are pretty again... ;) And
no contortions necessary (except for getting the sheet of paper from
the box)... :)
and so on the floor or on a table. ...Now which box is the pen in??!!
True... if you are adding/subtracting from that box, it would
tend to be handy... ;) I'd've thought the pen would be somewhere
on the table or floor next to you... but possibly under that pile
of papers...... <G>
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 06-Mar-2020 08:47 <=-
and reminders are always good... ;) You might even hear something
closer to the rescan date about what time each will be happening....
Yes: with me sometimes with the repeat I'll remember a detail I didn't
catch before. As for the rescan, have a couple of people also looking
for the date as they will have to rescan their TVs also.
So someone's likely to catch it... ;)
And did: March 13th. <Looking at calendar> Well, if it doesn't go
right we know what to blame! <gg>
But Friday the 13th is a LUCKY day.... <G> At least my sister wouldAnd my parents were married on a Friday the 13th. ...My joke to
say so, she turned 13 on a Friday the 13th... ;)
people worried about Friday the 13th is "You know what's worse?
Saturday the 14th!!".
<solar cell to charge battery of battery-powered TV>
sunlight-through-the-glass-block-window-in-the-basement seems easiest:
UV should pass through the glass blocks (though too thick?), being
inside protects the solar cells, the location makes it easy for me to
hook up the battery. Just need to test later.
Good question on whether the glass-block windows might be too thick...
definitely would need to test that out thoroughly.... but the other
factors do sound promising... <G>
Yes, potential for the UV -- OK: I wasn't sure on the excitor:
figuring UV as IR didn't sound right. Quick scan of a couple of
articles and they say photons; could still be a preference for the high
end of the visible light spectrum. Will see what happens when lower
the solar cell in the basement window to give it better light exposure
and see what happens.
It will be an interesting experiment, anyway... and possibly
productive as well... ;)
Yes: would be nice + handy if can place the solar unit in the basement
window, but if not, just start looking for an outside location. LIS,
the running of the wires may be a problem; may end up dropping that
option and going with the plan-ahead charge from the wall outlet.
Eventually you'll get it checked out... and its good to have a backupBackup plans are always good. Have read where "having a backup plan
plan as well... ;)
means a lack of commitment to the original plan", which on the surface
I'd agree with, but things will break, something unanticipated will
occur, etc.
Right: plus easier for me to write on paper and then move it to the
box than on the side of the box ==> sort of a mild acrobatic to get
into the writing position! And with paper easy to update with a new
sheet. (Though some have scratch-outs -- I'm not that picky!)
Yup... when the scratchouts get too messy, just transfer the proper
info onto a new sheet of paper, and things are pretty again... ;) And
no contortions necessary (except for getting the sheet of paper from
the box)... :)
<chuckle> Probably minimal as would tend to be working on that box
and so on the floor or on a table. ...Now which box is the pen in??!!
True... if you are adding/subtracting from that box, it would tend toI have a cartoon of a desk scene; at the far side is a person looking
be handy... ;) I'd've thought the pen would be somewhere on the table
or floor next to you... but possibly under that pile of papers.... <G>
for a pen; at the near side is several pens hiding behind a coffee mug
and a thing some other desk item. Caption is one pen saying to the
other something about hiding from the human as he squeezes the
lifeblood out of pens.
My pens generally don't seem too fearful as I try to keep them all snuggled together in a container.
and reminders are always good... ;) You might even hear something
closer to the rescan date about what time each will be happening....
Yes: with me sometimes with the repeat I'll remember a detail I didn't
catch before. As for the rescan, have a couple of people also looking
for the date as they will have to rescan their TVs also.
So someone's likely to catch it... ;)
And did: March 13th. <Looking at calendar> Well, if it doesn't go
right we know what to blame! <gg>
But Friday the 13th is a LUCKY day.... <G> At least my sister wouldAnd my parents were married on a Friday the 13th. ...My joke to
say so, she turned 13 on a Friday the 13th... ;)
people worried about Friday the 13th is "You know what's worse?
Saturday the 14th!!".
Or, when Friday the 13th comes on a Monday (Tues, Wed, Thurs,
etc)... <G>
<snip of ramblings and guesses><solar cell to charge battery of battery-powered TV>
Backup plans are always good. Have read where "having a backup plan
means a lack of commitment to the original plan", which on the surface
I'd agree with, but things will break, something unanticipated will
occur, etc.
I think that lack of commitment idea is just a bit too strong...
:) OTOH, planning tons of detailed contingency plans is
definitely overkill in the other direction... ;) It doesn't hurt
to have a clue what one might do, should the bridge need to be
crossed later, but the detail certainly can wait until one is a
lot closer to that potential bridge... A little planning for the
future, in a few possible options, can be wise; planning in great
detail for an unlikely future is a waste of time and energy.... :)
My pens generally don't seem too fearful as I try to keep them all snuggled together in a container.
Much handier that way, too... ;)
... The solution to a problem changes the problem.
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 12-Mar-2020 12:29 <=-
And did: March 13th. <Looking at calendar> Well, if it doesn't go
right we know what to blame! <gg>
But Friday the 13th is a LUCKY day.... <G> At least my sister would
say so, she turned 13 on a Friday the 13th... ;)
And my parents were married on a Friday the 13th. ...My joke to
people worried about Friday the 13th is "You know what's worse?
Saturday the 14th!!".
Or, when Friday the 13th comes on a Monday (Tues, Wed, Thurs,That would really screw things up!!
etc)... <G>
As for hearing more about the rescan, as I write this it's the morning
of the 12th, so the rescan is scheduled for tomorrow; haven't heard/
seen anything additional. Guess if the station isn't 'on the air' tomorrow morning will be doing a rescan!
And speaking of rescanning, there have been a few posts in the MythTV Forum about rescanning without going through the whole thing. There
is, done by entering transport numbers (the channel frequencies) --
what I had tried was just the channels (entering "6" instead of 82-88 MHz). Even then there are some other tweaks needed -- easier to just
sit back and let the machine do the rescan and put in all the numbers.
Biggest problem was like I had here with repeater stations (locally
WHBF has its main channel on 4 with a translator [repeater to me] at
47).
<solar cell to charge battery of battery-powered TV><snip of ramblings and guesses>
Backup plans are always good. Have read where "having a backup plan
means a lack of commitment to the original plan", which on the surface
I'd agree with, but things will break, something unanticipated will
occur, etc.
I think that lack of commitment idea is just a bit too strong... :)I am fully committed to all changes! ...So far found what doesn't
OTOH, planning tons of detailed contingency plans is definitely
overkill in the other direction... ;) It doesn't hurt to have a clue
what one might do, should the bridge need to be crossed later, but the
detail certainly can wait until one is a lot closer to that potential
bridge... A little planning for the future, in a few possible options,
can be wise; planning in great detail for an unlikely future is a
waste of time and energy.... :)
work easily: sticking the solar cell in the window; doesn't work
because of the UV block stuff in the glass. Next step will be testing
the one window that doesn't have the UV block and gets sunshine most of the time. If that doesn't work will check about outside; running the wires to inside is the big problem with that option. May end up with charging off the grid.
My pens generally don't seem too fearful as I try to keep them all
snuggled together in a container.
Much handier that way, too... ;)They seem to like it that way and for me reasonably organized.
... The solution to a problem changes the problem.From hard to easy, or vice versa?
And did: March 13th. <Looking at calendar> Well, if it doesn't go
right we know what to blame! <gg>
But Friday the 13th is a LUCKY day.... <G> At least my sister would
say so, she turned 13 on a Friday the 13th... ;)
And my parents were married on a Friday the 13th. ...My joke to
people worried about Friday the 13th is "You know what's worse?
Saturday the 14th!!".
Or, when Friday the 13th comes on a Monday (Tues, Wed, Thurs,That would really screw things up!!
etc)... <G>
Ah, but that happens more months than not... <G> At least that's
the way one of the regular announcers on my station usually
states it whenever the 13th is on some day other than a
Friday.... :)
As for hearing more about the rescan, as I write this it's the morning
of the 12th, so the rescan is scheduled for tomorrow; haven't heard/
seen anything additional. Guess if the station isn't 'on the air' tomorrow morning will be doing a rescan!
And how DID that go...? ;)
And speaking of rescanning, there have been a few posts in the MythTV Forum about rescanning without going through the whole thing. There
is, done by entering transport numbers (the channel frequencies) --
what I had tried was just the channels (entering "6" instead of 82-88 MHz). Even then there are some other tweaks needed -- easier to just
sit back and let the machine do the rescan and put in all the numbers.
How long does a full rescan take....? I can see letting it just
do its thing on auto.... ;)
Biggest problem was like I had here with repeater stations (locally
WHBF has its main channel on 4 with a translator [repeater to me] at
47).
So you'd need to know the precise details for your side of
things... (and yes, I know what a translator/repeater is... North
Country Public Radio uses them, too...)
<solar cell to charge battery of battery-powered TV><snip of ramblings and guesses>
Backup plans are always good. Have read where "having a backup plan
means a lack of commitment to the original plan", which on the surface
I'd agree with, but things will break, something unanticipated will
occur, etc.
I think that lack of commitment idea is just a bit too strong... :)I am fully committed to all changes! ...So far found what doesn't
OTOH, planning tons of detailed contingency plans is definitely
overkill in the other direction... ;) It doesn't hurt to have a clue
what one might do, should the bridge need to be crossed later, but the
detail certainly can wait until one is a lot closer to that potential
bridge... A little planning for the future, in a few possible options,
can be wise; planning in great detail for an unlikely future is a
waste of time and energy.... :)
work easily: sticking the solar cell in the window; doesn't work
because of the UV block stuff in the glass. Next step will be testing
the one window that doesn't have the UV block and gets sunshine most of the time. If that doesn't work will check about outside; running the wires to inside is the big problem with that option. May end up with charging off the grid.
You mean, charging things just from a plug-in inside...? And
just keeping in readiness to put into the system as needed.....?
... The solution to a problem changes the problem.From hard to easy, or vice versa?
Yes. <G>
... STATE-OF-THE-ART: Soon-to-be-obsolete.
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 24-Mar-2020 08:57 <=-
But Friday the 13th is a LUCKY day.... <G> At least my sister would
say so, she turned 13 on a Friday the 13th... ;)
And my parents were married on a Friday the 13th. ...My joke to
people worried about Friday the 13th is "You know what's worse?
Saturday the 14th!!".
Or, when Friday the 13th comes on a Monday (Tues, Wed, Thurs,That would really screw things up!!
etc)... <G>
Ah, but that happens more months than not... <G> At least that's the
way one of the regular announcers on my station usually states it
whenever the 13th is on some day other than a Friday.... :)
<chuckle> I tend to overlook suspicions but also am slightly cautious because _others_ find the situation bothersome and so tend to act out
of the norm.
OTOH walking under a ladder does enhance the possibility
of getting paint or hammer dropped upon, a black cat crossing ones path could increase the possibility of tripping over in the dark (though a white cat in blackened room has the same)....
As for hearing more about the rescan, as I write this it's the morning
of the 12th, so the rescan is scheduled for tomorrow; haven't heard/
seen anything additional. Guess if the station isn't 'on the air'
tomorrow morning will be doing a rescan!
And how DID that go...? ;)Fine! :) I'm getting to be an expert! <g> Ended up the switch was as noon; I was thinking midnight so the station was on in the morning
with the old configuration; checked in the afternoon, not there, so scanned. Did find one pleasant surprise: the station either moved the tower and/or increased transmitting power as it now is received with a greatly increased signal. Before would drop out on most of the TVs and occasional problems when using the computer system to record.
(Two viewing systems: one is off-the-air TV, so "watch live TV". The other is the recording system using the computer, and that system uses
the TV as a monitor. I have been told the wrong 'TV'.)
And speaking of rescanning, there have been a few posts in the MythTV
Forum about rescanning without going through the whole thing. There
is, done by entering transport numbers (the channel frequencies) --
what I had tried was just the channels (entering "6" instead of 82-88
MHz). Even then there are some other tweaks needed -- easier to just
sit back and let the machine do the rescan and put in all the numbers.
How long does a full rescan take....? I can see letting it justOn the computer the whole rescan process probably takes 30-40 minutes.
do its thing on auto.... ;)
And that's for the four tuners, so not an all-day job. It is easier
to let it 'do it's thing', though manual intervention is still needed
as for some reason the software remembers the old information: old/now-dead "Channel 8" is remembered as well as the new "Channel 8".
It seems to have been done on purpose because of various repeaters (translators).
Biggest problem was like I had here with repeater stations (locally
WHBF has its main channel on 4 with a translator [repeater to me] at
47).
So you'd need to know the precise details for your side of things...It helps to be aware! With the TVs (not talking the computer system
(and yes, I know what a translator/repeater is... North Country
Public Radio uses them, too...)
on this one) one TV would display 4.1 and 47.1, another had two 4.1's
(so when doing a Channel Up scan on the remote would be 4.1, 4.1, 4.2, 4.2,), while another combined: said 4.1 but might be Ch 47's, 4.2
might be from Ch 4. (The good news is seems they got rid of the repeater.)
<solar cell to charge battery of battery-powered TV><snip of ramblings and guesses>
...So far found what doesn't work easily: sticking the solar cell in
the window; doesn't work because of the UV block stuff in the glass.
Next step will be testing the one window that doesn't have the UV
block and gets sunshine most of the time. If that doesn't work will
check about outside; running the wires to inside is the big problem
with that option. May end up with charging off the grid.
You mean, charging things just from a plug-in inside...? AndYes, plug-in charger. Would probably try to unplug just to save a few cents of eletricity -- that was one of the advantages of the solar charging option was didn't cost anything.
just keeping in readiness to put into the system as needed.....?
... The solution to a problem changes the problem.
From hard to easy, or vice versa?
Yes. <G>I understand!!
... STATE-OF-THE-ART: Soon-to-be-obsolete.All too true!
... æsecond - Time takes your state-of-the-art computer to become obsolete.
But Friday the 13th is a LUCKY day.... <G> At least my sister would
say so, she turned 13 on a Friday the 13th... ;)
And my parents were married on a Friday the 13th. ...My joke to
people worried about Friday the 13th is "You know what's worse?
Saturday the 14th!!".
Or, when Friday the 13th comes on a Monday (Tues, Wed, Thurs,That would really screw things up!!
etc)... <G>
Ah, but that happens more months than not... <G> At least that's the
way one of the regular announcers on my station usually states it
whenever the 13th is on some day other than a Friday.... :)
<chuckle> I tend to overlook suspicions but also am slightly cautious because _others_ find the situation bothersome and so tend to act out
of the norm.
You mean superstitions, not suspicions...? ;) I suppose one
might have to pay some attention to others for some superstitious behaviour... ;)
OTOH walking under a ladder does enhance the possibility
of getting paint or hammer dropped upon, a black cat crossing ones path could increase the possibility of tripping over in the dark (though a white cat in blackened room has the same)....
Some things are more things to be careful about for good reason,
than truly superstitions... ;) And cats seem to think that human
eyesight in the dark is as good as theirs... so they stay in the
shadow and expect you to not step on them all the same... <G>
As for hearing more about the rescan, as I write this it's the morning
of the 12th, so the rescan is scheduled for tomorrow; haven't heard/
seen anything additional. Guess if the station isn't 'on the air'
tomorrow morning will be doing a rescan!
And how DID that go...? ;)Fine! :) I'm getting to be an expert! <g> Ended up the switch was as noon; I was thinking midnight so the station was on in the morning
with the old configuration; checked in the afternoon, not there, so scanned. Did find one pleasant surprise: the station either moved the tower and/or increased transmitting power as it now is received with a greatly increased signal. Before would drop out on most of the TVs and occasional problems when using the computer system to record.
(Two viewing systems: one is off-the-air TV, so "watch live TV". The other is the recording system using the computer, and that system uses
the TV as a monitor. I have been told the wrong 'TV'.)
Now that is a pleasant surprise... and good that the rescan went
so easily this time... :)
And speaking of rescanning, there have been a few posts in the MythTV
Forum about rescanning without going through the whole thing. There
is, done by entering transport numbers (the channel frequencies) --
what I had tried was just the channels (entering "6" instead of 82-88
MHz). Even then there are some other tweaks needed -- easier to just
sit back and let the machine do the rescan and put in all the numbers.
How long does a full rescan take....? I can see letting it justOn the computer the whole rescan process probably takes 30-40 minutes.
do its thing on auto.... ;)
And that's for the four tuners, so not an all-day job. It is easier
to let it 'do it's thing', though manual intervention is still needed
as for some reason the software remembers the old information: old/now-dead "Channel 8" is remembered as well as the new "Channel 8".
It seems to have been done on purpose because of various repeaters (translators).
That's not too long at all.... So, you have to babysit it in
case it gets confused, then....?
Biggest problem was like I had here with repeater stations (locally
WHBF has its main channel on 4 with a translator [repeater to me] at
47).
So you'd need to know the precise details for your side of things...It helps to be aware! With the TVs (not talking the computer system
(and yes, I know what a translator/repeater is... North Country
Public Radio uses them, too...)
on this one) one TV would display 4.1 and 47.1, another had two 4.1's
(so when doing a Channel Up scan on the remote would be 4.1, 4.1, 4.2, 4.2,), while another combined: said 4.1 but might be Ch 47's, 4.2
might be from Ch 4. (The good news is seems they got rid of the repeater.)
That is good news.... ;) That should reduce some of the
confusion... :)
<solar cell to charge battery of battery-powered TV><snip of ramblings and guesses>
...So far found what doesn't work easily: sticking the solar cell in
the window; doesn't work because of the UV block stuff in the glass.
Next step will be testing the one window that doesn't have the UV
block and gets sunshine most of the time. If that doesn't work will
check about outside; running the wires to inside is the big problem
with that option. May end up with charging off the grid.
You mean, charging things just from a plug-in inside...? AndYes, plug-in charger. Would probably try to unplug just to save a few cents of electricity -- that was one of the advantages of the solar charging option was didn't cost anything.
just keeping in readiness to put into the system as needed.....?
True.... and you still might find a way to make that work with
solar... but probably wouldn't really cost all that much to just
plug it in, either... ;)
... STATE-OF-THE-ART: Soon-to-be-obsolete.All too true!
Almost not really funny.... ;0
... æsecond - Time takes your state-of-the-art computer to become obsolete.
Yup. ;)
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 01-Apr-2020 08:26 <=-
Or, when Friday the 13th comes on a Monday (Tues, Wed, Thurs, etc)...
That would really screw things up!!
Ah, but that happens more months than not... <G> At least that's the
way one of the regular announcers on my station usually states it
whenever the 13th is on some day other than a Friday.... :)
<chuckle> I tend to overlook suspicions but also am slightly cautious
because _others_ find the situation bothersome and so tend to act out
of the norm.
You mean superstitions, not suspicions...? ;) I suppose one might haveYes -- not only do I have dyslexic typing but also that space-saving abbreviated typing! As far as superstitious stuff, some of my
to pay some attention to others for some superstitious behaviour... ;)
response is just a reaction to others' erratic reactions: they'll focus
on the black cat and so run into me.
OTOH walking under a ladder does enhance the possibility
of getting paint or hammer dropped upon, a black cat crossing ones path
could increase the possibility of tripping over in the dark (though a
white cat in blackened room has the same)....
Some things are more things to be careful about for good reason, thanAnd us humans think the cats think.... <g> The cats probably stay
truly superstitions... ;) And cats seem to think that human eyesight
in the dark is as good as theirs... so they stay in the shadow and
expect you to not step on them all the same... <G>
hidden to protect themselves; we're the ones stupid enough to go
wandering in the dark when we can't see!
scanned. Did find one pleasant surprise: the station either moved the
tower and/or increased transmitting power as it now is received with a
greatly increased signal. Before would drop out on most of the TVs and
occasional problems when using the computer system to record.
(Two viewing systems: one is off-the-air TV, so "watch live TV". The
other is the recording system using the computer, and that system uses
the TV as a monitor. I have been told the wrong 'TV'.)
Now that is a pleasant surprise... and good that the rescan went soYes, nice for the extra signal strength. And probably helps to get in practice with channel scanning so know what to do, expect, etc.
easily this time... :)
How long does a full rescan take....? I can see letting it just do
its thing on auto.... ;)
On the computer the whole rescan process probably takes 30-40 minutes.
And that's for the four tuners, so not an all-day job. It is easier
to let it 'do it's thing', though manual intervention is still needed
as for some reason the software remembers the old information:
old/now-dead "Channel 8" is remembered as well as the new "Channel 8".
It seems to have been done on purpose because of various repeaters
(translators).
That's not too long at all.... So, you have to babysit it in case itRight: the length of time isn't bad, just the system is off-line while scanning/updating so need to be sure not recording/running into a recording period, and no one else can watch a recorded show. (Using
gets confused, then....?
the TV to watch live is fine -- two separate systems.)
And yes, I do 'babysit' while the system scans; just easier for me to
sit here and play a few games of Solitaire or look through e-mail.
Just another reason why I talked myself into two monitors.
With the TVs (not talking the computer system on this one) one TV
would display 4.1 and 47.1, another had two 4.1's (so when doing a
Channel Up scan on the remote would be 4.1, 4.1, 4.2, 4.2,), while
another combined: said 4.1 but might be Ch 47's, 4.2 might be from
Ch 4. (The good news is seems they got rid of the repeater.)
That is good news.... ;) That should reduce some of theYes. Was relatively easy to set to ignore the repeater on the Backend (the computer), not at all so for the TVs.
confusion... :)
<solar cell to charge battery of battery-powered TV><snip of ramblings and guesses>
...So far found what doesn't work easily: sticking the solar cell in
the window; doesn't work because of the UV block stuff in the glass.
Next step will be testing the one window that doesn't have the UV
block and gets sunshine most of the time. If that doesn't work will
check about outside; running the wires to inside is the big problem
with that option. May end up with charging off the grid.
You mean, charging things just from a plug-in inside...? And
just keeping in readiness to put into the system as needed.....?
Yes, plug-in charger. Would probably try to unplug just to save a few
cents of electricity -- that was one of the advantages of the solar
charging option was didn't cost anything.
True.... and you still might find a way to make that work with solar...Right: at this point it's not going to work the way I would like it
but probably wouldn't really cost all that much to just plug it in,
either... ;)
the easy way. Do have to test in the basement with the window with the glass blocks still: cleaning up, overcast, other things to do, But Firsts.... As you said, may be easier just to plug in to maintain the charge.
... STATE-OF-THE-ART: Soon-to-be-obsolete.
All too true!
Almost not really funny.... ;0Uh-huh! My manager when I was working at the store's computer
department said the computers the manufacturer was assembling to ship
off to us were already out-of-date.
... æsecond - Time takes your state-of-the-art computer to become
obsolete.
Yup. ;)See above!
OTOH walking under a ladder does enhance the possibility
of getting paint or hammer dropped upon, a black cat crossing ones path
could increase the possibility of tripping over in the dark (though a
white cat in blackened room has the same)....
Some things are more things to be careful about for good reason, thanAnd us humans think the cats think.... <g> The cats probably stay
truly superstitions... ;) And cats seem to think that human eyesight
in the dark is as good as theirs... so they stay in the shadow and
expect you to not step on them all the same... <G>
hidden to protect themselves; we're the ones stupid enough to go
wandering in the dark when we can't see!
Actually, our cats are sitting in shadows right in the way of
where we need to walk... either they move before we actually step
on them, or there's a surprised squawk.... we try not to step too
hard just in case.... <G>
How long does a full rescan take....? I can see letting it just do
its thing on auto.... ;)
On the computer the whole rescan process probably takes 30-40 minutes.
And that's for the four tuners, so not an all-day job. It is easier
to let it 'do it's thing', though manual intervention is still needed
as for some reason the software remembers the old information:
old/now-dead "Channel 8" is remembered as well as the new "Channel 8".
It seems to have been done on purpose because of various repeaters
(translators).
That's not too long at all.... So, you have to babysit it in case itRight: the length of time isn't bad, just the system is off-line while scanning/updating so need to be sure not recording/running into a recording period, and no one else can watch a recorded show. (Using
gets confused, then....?
the TV to watch live is fine -- two separate systems.)
So ahead of time, you announce that the recording system is going
offline for the scanning, and for everyone to wait until the
all-clear sounds at the end.... ;)
And yes, I do 'babysit' while the system scans; just easier for me to
sit here and play a few games of Solitaire or look through e-mail.
Just another reason why I talked myself into two monitors.
Safer that way... and with the extra monitor you can amuse
yourself while you wait.... ;)
With the TVs (not talking the computer system on this one) one TV
would display 4.1 and 47.1, another had two 4.1's (so when doing a
Channel Up scan on the remote would be 4.1, 4.1, 4.2, 4.2,), while
another combined: said 4.1 but might be Ch 47's, 4.2 might be from
Ch 4. (The good news is seems they got rid of the repeater.)
That is good news.... ;) That should reduce some of theYes. Was relatively easy to set to ignore the repeater on the Backend (the computer), not at all so for the TVs.
confusion... :)
But by getting rid of the repeaters, you also get rid of some of
that overlap you were seeing on the TVs.... :)
<solar cell to charge battery of battery-powered TV><snip of ramblings and guesses>
...So far found what doesn't work easily: sticking the solar cell in
the window; doesn't work because of the UV block stuff in the glass.
Next step will be testing the one window that doesn't have the UV
block and gets sunshine most of the time. If that doesn't work will
check about outside; running the wires to inside is the big problem
with that option. May end up with charging off the grid.
You mean, charging things just from a plug-in inside...? And
just keeping in readiness to put into the system as needed.....?
Yes, plug-in charger. Would probably try to unplug just to save a few
cents of electricity -- that was one of the advantages of the solar
charging option was didn't cost anything.
True.... and you still might find a way to make that work with solar...Right: at this point it's not going to work the way I would like it
but probably wouldn't really cost all that much to just plug it in,
either... ;)
the easy way. Do have to test in the basement with the window with the glass blocks still: cleaning up, overcast, other things to do, But Firsts.... As you said, may be easier just to plug in to maintain the charge.
Eventually you'll probably check it out further.... :)
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 10-Apr-2020 07:19 <=-
Cold out there this morning! 29ø -- a few days ago it was in the low 80's.
<superstitions>
OTOH walking under a ladder does enhance the possibility
of getting paint or hammer dropped upon, a black cat crossing ones path
could increase the possibility of tripping over in the dark (though a
white cat in blackened room has the same)....
Some things are more things to be careful about for good reason, than
truly superstitions... ;) And cats seem to think that human eyesight
in the dark is as good as theirs... so they stay in the shadow and
expect you to not step on them all the same... <G>
And us humans think the cats think.... <g> The cats probably stay
hidden to protect themselves; we're the ones stupid enough to go
wandering in the dark when we can't see!
Actually, our cats are sitting in shadows right in the way of where<chuckle> And they're thinking "how could you possibly not have seen me?!".
we need to walk... either they move before we actually step on them,
or there's a surprised squawk.... we try not to step too hard just in
case.... <G>
That's not too long at all.... So, you have to babysit it in case it
gets confused, then....?
Right: the length of time isn't bad, just the system is off-line while
scanning/updating so need to be sure not recording/running into a
recording period, and no one else can watch a recorded show. (Using
the TV to watch live is fine -- two separate systems.)
So ahead of time, you announce that the recording system is goingPretty much. On the remote/viewing side of things would see a 'cannot connect to Backend' error which is then followed by me being told something is wrong with the system! So yes, announcing ahead of time
offline for the scanning, and for everyone to wait until the all-clear
sounds at the end.... ;)
and when finished is better. <g>
And yes, I do 'babysit' while the system scans; just easier for me to
sit here and play a few games of Solitaire or look through e-mail.
Just another reason why I talked myself into two monitors.
Safer that way... and with the extra monitor you can amuse yourselfRight: though I do have several bars to look at if don't want to
while you wait.... ;)
'play' on the other computer: progress bar, signal strength when it
locks on a station, ... hmm: another few things to look at but
apparently not all that exciting!
With the TVs (not talking the computer system on this one) one TV
would display 4.1 and 47.1, another had two 4.1's (so when doing a
Channel Up scan on the remote would be 4.1, 4.1, 4.2, 4.2,), while
another combined: said 4.1 but might be Ch 47's, 4.2 might be from
Ch 4. (The good news is seems they got rid of the repeater.)
That is good news.... ;) That should reduce some of the
confusion... :)
Yes. Was relatively easy to set to ignore the repeater on the Backend
(the computer), not at all so for the TVs.
But by getting rid of the repeaters, you also get rid of some of thatTrue. Didn't really mind the duplication of the repeater but when it
overlap you were seeing on the TVs.... :)
was overriding and the TV 'chose' the weaker repeater over the
stronger primary station was shall we say alloying.
It seemed like the TV would accept the last station scanned, so 47 (repeater, weaker) would be selected over 4 (primary, stronger),
though not always (47.1, 4.2, for example). So good something else
was changed.
<solar cell to charge battery of battery-powered TV>
...So far found what doesn't work easily: sticking the solar cell in
the window; doesn't work because of the UV block stuff in the glass.
Next step will be testing the one window that doesn't have the UV
block and gets sunshine most of the time. If that doesn't work will
check about outside; running the wires to inside is the big problem
with that option. May end up with charging off the grid.
You mean, charging things just from a plug-in inside...? And
just keeping in readiness to put into the system as needed.....?
Yes, plug-in charger. Would probably try to unplug just to save a few
cents of electricity -- that was one of the advantages of the solar
charging option was didn't cost anything.
True.... and you still might find a way to make that work with solar...
but probably wouldn't really cost all that much to just plug it in,
either... ;)
Right: at this point it's not going to work the way I would like it
the easy way. Do have to test in the basement with the window with the
glass blocks still: cleaning up, overcast, other things to do, But
Firsts.... As you said, may be easier just to plug in to maintain the
charge.
Eventually you'll probably check it out further.... :)Yes, and maybe even get a few other half-started projects completed
too!
Cold out there this morning! 29ø -- a few days ago it was in the low 80's.
We had that swing in temps, too... not quite so bad, as we were
only almost to 70 and then went to the low 30s... ;)
That's not too long at all.... So, you have to babysit it in case it
gets confused, then....?
Right: the length of time isn't bad, just the system is off-line while
scanning/updating so need to be sure not recording/running into a
recording period, and no one else can watch a recorded show. (Using
the TV to watch live is fine -- two separate systems.)
So ahead of time, you announce that the recording system is goingPretty much. On the remote/viewing side of things would see a 'cannot connect to Backend' error which is then followed by me being told something is wrong with the system! So yes, announcing ahead of time
offline for the scanning, and for everyone to wait until the all-clear
sounds at the end.... ;)
and when finished is better. <g>
Less bother for you... ;)
And yes, I do 'babysit' while the system scans; just easier for me to
sit here and play a few games of Solitaire or look through e-mail.
Just another reason why I talked myself into two monitors.
Safer that way... and with the extra monitor you can amuse yourselfRight: though I do have several bars to look at if don't want to
while you wait.... ;)
'play' on the other computer: progress bar, signal strength when it
locks on a station, ... hmm: another few things to look at but
apparently not all that exciting!
The sort of thing you can do with one eye while playing
solitare... ;)
With the TVs (not talking the computer system on this one) one TV
would display 4.1 and 47.1, another had two 4.1's (so when doing a
Channel Up scan on the remote would be 4.1, 4.1, 4.2, 4.2,), while
another combined: said 4.1 but might be Ch 47's, 4.2 might be from
Ch 4. (The good news is seems they got rid of the repeater.)
That is good news.... ;) That should reduce some of the
confusion... :)
Yes. Was relatively easy to set to ignore the repeater on the Backend
(the computer), not at all so for the TVs.
But by getting rid of the repeaters, you also get rid of some of thatTrue. Didn't really mind the duplication of the repeater but when it
overlap you were seeing on the TVs.... :)
was overriding and the TV 'chose' the weaker repeater over the
stronger primary station was shall we say alloying.
(was that meant to be annoying....? [g])
It seemed like the TV would accept the last station scanned, so 47 (repeater, weaker) would be selected over 4 (primary, stronger),
though not always (47.1, 4.2, for example). So good something else
was changed.
True, it would have been less annoying if there seemed to be some legitmate logic to it... <G>
<solar cell to charge battery of battery-powered TV>
Right: at this point it's not going to work the way I would like it
the easy way. Do have to test in the basement with the window with the
glass blocks still: cleaning up, overcast, other things to do, But
Firsts.... As you said, may be easier just to plug in to maintain the
charge.
Eventually you'll probably check it out further.... :)Yes, and maybe even get a few other half-started projects completed
too!
Especially if you are stuck home more at the moment (as long as
you have all the parts at hand there).... ;)
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 20-Apr-2020 10:35 <=-
Cold out there this morning! 29ø -- a few days ago it was in the low
80's.
We had that swing in temps, too... not quite so bad, as we were onlyWas at 31ø when I woke up to what sounded like something sliding off
almost to 70 and then went to the low 30s... ;)
the roof -- must have been the trash pickup as they start at 4 a.m. now due to the COVID-19. Used to start collections at 7 a.m. Not sure why they start three hours earlier now but....
Supposed to get into the low 60's this afternoon but also up to 40 MPH winds this afternoon and rain/thunderstorms around 9 or 10 tonight.
Right: the length of time isn't bad, just the system is off-line while
scanning/updating so need to be sure not recording/running into a
recording period, and no one else can watch a recorded show. (Using
the TV to watch live is fine -- two separate systems.)
So ahead of time, you announce that the recording system is going
offline for the scanning, and for everyone to wait until the all-clear
sounds at the end.... ;)
Pretty much. On the remote/viewing side of things would see a 'cannot
connect to Backend' error which is then followed by me being told
something is wrong with the system! So yes, announcing ahead of time
and when finished is better. <g>
Less bother for you... ;)Yes. And I do want to be told if there is a problem when I'm not
doing an update, etc., so "always tell me about error messages unless specifically told not to".
And yes, I do 'babysit' while the system scans; just easier for me to
sit here and play a few games of Solitaire or look through e-mail.
Just another reason why I talked myself into two monitors.
Safer that way... and with the extra monitor you can amuse yourself
while you wait.... ;)
Right: though I do have several bars to look at if don't want to
'play' on the other computer: progress bar, signal strength when it
locks on a station, ... hmm: another few things to look at but
apparently not all that exciting!
The sort of thing you can do with one eye while playing solitare... ;)Right. And for me Solitaire is 'easily interruptible' so can stop and restart as needed.
But by getting rid of the repeaters, you also get rid of some of that
overlap you were seeing on the TVs.... :)
True. Didn't really mind the duplication of the repeater but when it
was overriding and the TV 'chose' the weaker repeater over the
stronger primary station was shall we say alloying.
(was that meant to be annoying....? [g])Maybe: when two substances combine....
It seemed like the TV would accept the last station scanned, so 47
(repeater, weaker) would be selected over 4 (primary, stronger),
though not always (47.1, 4.2, for example). So good something else
was changed.
True, it would have been less annoying if there seemed to be someThough I'd rather have it so both the stations were selected and the
legitmate logic to it... <G>
user could select the option of removal.
<solar cell to charge battery of battery-powered TV>
Right: at this point it's not going to work the way I would like it
the easy way. Do have to test in the basement with the window with the
glass blocks still: cleaning up, overcast, other things to do, But
Firsts.... As you said, may be easier just to plug in to maintain the
charge.
Eventually you'll probably check it out further.... :)
Yes, and maybe even get a few other half-started projects completed
too!
Especially if you are stuck home more at the moment (as long as youYes: handier to be able to patch in the 'correction' rather than wait
have all the parts at hand there).... ;)
for the part to hopefully fix come in.
Cold out there this morning! 29ø -- a few days ago it was in the low
80's.
We had that swing in temps, too... not quite so bad, as we were onlyWas at 31ø when I woke up to what sounded like something sliding off
almost to 70 and then went to the low 30s... ;)
the roof -- must have been the trash pickup as they start at 4 a.m. now due to the COVID-19. Used to start collections at 7 a.m. Not sure why they start three hours earlier now but....
I don't think that our pickup times were changed due to
COVID-19... I suppose starting earlier would let them finish
earlier, maybe gives time to sanitize afterwards....?
Supposed to get into the low 60's this afternoon but also up to 40 MPH winds this afternoon and rain/thunderstorms around 9 or 10 tonight.
We had that last week, too... and now we're having a similar
weather pattern again this week... a little warmer this week,
though, than last... it was almost 70 today.... And there's only
a slight possibility of the thunderstorms....
Right: the length of time isn't bad, just the system is off-line while
scanning/updating so need to be sure not recording/running into a
recording period, and no one else can watch a recorded show. (Using
the TV to watch live is fine -- two separate systems.)
So ahead of time, you announce that the recording system is going
offline for the scanning, and for everyone to wait until the all-clear
sounds at the end.... ;)
Pretty much. On the remote/viewing side of things would see a 'cannot
connect to Backend' error which is then followed by me being told
something is wrong with the system! So yes, announcing ahead of time
and when finished is better. <g>
Less bother for you... ;)Yes. And I do want to be told if there is a problem when I'm not
doing an update, etc., so "always tell me about error messages unless specifically told not to".
Makes sense... and should make things less confusing... ;)
It seemed like the TV would accept the last station scanned, so 47
(repeater, weaker) would be selected over 4 (primary, stronger),
though not always (47.1, 4.2, for example). So good something else
was changed.
True, it would have been less annoying if there seemed to be someThough I'd rather have it so both the stations were selected and the
legitmate logic to it... <G>
user could select the option of removal.
More likely that you'd pick the proper one to remove or to keep,
that way.... ;)
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 30-Apr-2020 11:30 <=-
Back from my Abbreviated Thursday Morning Meanderings. "Scored" a four-pack of Angel Soft toilet paper for a neighbour who has been
on-line shopping but her store (not a HyVee) is always out of toilet paper. I was talked out of putting a bow on the package as a joke.
Was at 31ø when I woke up to what sounded like something sliding off
the roof -- must have been the trash pickup as they start at 4 a.m. now
due to the COVID-19. Used to start collections at 7 a.m. Not sure why
they start three hours earlier now but....
I don't think that our pickup times were changed due to COVID-19...Possible. Even though automated pick up I'm quite sure there are accidents: minor ones from the container being blown over by the wind
I suppose starting earlier would let them finish earlier, maybe gives
time to sanitize afterwards....?
to more major ones like not being held securely by the picker's
claw-arms. Neither of those are COVID-19 specific; I would have wanted
to clean up after returning from the route. Sanitizing before entering the trucks would help prevent spread amongst the workers but doesn't
take three hours, plus the start of the route was also advanced. <shrug>
Supposed to get into the low 60's this afternoon but also up to 40 MPH
winds this afternoon and rain/thunderstorms around 9 or 10 tonight.
We had that last week, too... and now we're having a similar weatherWe had some rain, thundestorms, wind earlier this week; today is nice
pattern again this week... a little warmer this week, though, than
last... it was almost 70 today.... And there's only a slight
possibility of the thunderstorms....
and clear but very windy. Supposed to get into the lower 70's today;
TV forecast says low-80's for Saturday but ansiweather (wherever their forecast comes from) says 74ø for Saturday's high. Cooler Sunday and
next week.
<TV scanning with a repeater station>
It seemed like the TV would accept the last station scanned, so 47
(repeater, weaker) would be selected over 4 (primary, stronger),
though not always (47.1, 4.2, for example). So good something else
was changed.
True, it would have been less annoying if there seemed to be some
legitmate logic to it... <G>
Though I'd rather have it so both the stations were selected and the
user could select the option of removal.
More likely that you'd pick the proper one to remove or to keep, thatAnd there are reasons to want the weaker repeater station: a while
way.... ;)
back something happened and Channel 4 (the main station) was on but no data: the carrier was there but no audio nor video. The repeater
station at Channel 47 was broadcasting properly.
Back from my Abbreviated Thursday Morning Meanderings. "Scored" a four-pack of Angel Soft toilet paper for a neighbour who has been
on-line shopping but her store (not a HyVee) is always out of toilet paper. I was talked out of putting a bow on the package as a joke.
[chuckle] Who knows, she might have appreciated the bow.... ;)
It was a nice gesture/present all the same... :)
Was at 31ø when I woke up to what sounded like something sliding off
the roof -- must have been the trash pickup as they start at 4 a.m. now
due to the COVID-19. Used to start collections at 7 a.m. Not sure why
they start three hours earlier now but....
I don't think that our pickup times were changed due to COVID-19...Possible. Even though automated pick up I'm quite sure there are accidents: minor ones from the container being blown over by the wind
I suppose starting earlier would let them finish earlier, maybe gives
time to sanitize afterwards....?
to more major ones like not being held securely by the picker's
claw-arms. Neither of those are COVID-19 specific; I would have wanted
to clean up after returning from the route. Sanitizing before entering the trucks would help prevent spread amongst the workers but doesn't
take three hours, plus the start of the route was also advanced. <shrug>
I was thinking sanitizing after the route... which should still
be sanitized when they start the next day's route....
Supposed to get into the low 60's this afternoon but also up to 40 MPH
winds this afternoon and rain/thunderstorms around 9 or 10 tonight.
We had that last week, too... and now we're having a similar weatherWe had some rain, thundestorms, wind earlier this week; today is nice
pattern again this week... a little warmer this week, though, than
last... it was almost 70 today.... And there's only a slight
possibility of the thunderstorms....
and clear but very windy. Supposed to get into the lower 70's today;
TV forecast says low-80's for Saturday but ansiweather (wherever their forecast comes from) says 74ø for Saturday's high. Cooler Sunday and
next week.
Still no thunderstorms here that I'm aware of... rain and wind,
though... and now this week is quite cool for May, after having
had a lovely Sunday, with the high in the high 70s... frost
warnings almost every night this week, and the threat of snow for
maybe Saturday...
<TV scanning with a repeater station>
It seemed like the TV would accept the last station scanned, so 47
(repeater, weaker) would be selected over 4 (primary, stronger),
though not always (47.1, 4.2, for example). So good something else
was changed.
True, it would have been less annoying if there seemed to be some
legitmate logic to it... <G>
Though I'd rather have it so both the stations were selected and the
user could select the option of removal.
More likely that you'd pick the proper one to remove or to keep, thatAnd there are reasons to want the weaker repeater station: a while
way.... ;)
back something happened and Channel 4 (the main station) was on but no data: the carrier was there but no audio nor video. The repeater
station at Channel 47 was broadcasting properly.
Yes... at that point, you'd want the option to choose the working
station, for sure.... :)
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 07-May-2020 12:37 <=-
Back from my Abbreviated Thursday Morning Meanderings. "Scored" a
four-pack of Angel Soft toilet paper for a neighbour who has been
on-line shopping but her store (not a HyVee) is always out of toilet
paper. I was talked out of putting a bow on the package as a joke.
[chuckle] Who knows, she might have appreciated the bow.... ;)Yes, I thought she would think it humourous. Oh well.
It was a nice gesture/present all the same... :)
Was at 31ø when I woke up to what sounded like something sliding off
the roof -- must have been the trash pickup as they start at 4 a.m. now
due to the COVID-19. Used to start collections at 7 a.m. Not sure why
they start three hours earlier now but....
I don't think that our pickup times were changed due to COVID-19...
I suppose starting earlier would let them finish earlier, maybe gives
time to sanitize afterwards....?
Possible. Even though automated pick up I'm quite sure there are
accidents: minor ones from the container being blown over by the wind
to more major ones like not being held securely by the picker's
claw-arms. Neither of those are COVID-19 specific; I would have wanted
to clean up after returning from the route. Sanitizing before entering
the trucks would help prevent spread amongst the workers but doesn't
take three hours, plus the start of the route was also advanced. <shrug>
I was thinking sanitizing after the route... which should still beTrue -- to me would make more sense to clean after the day's route
sanitized when they start the next day's route....
than to leave it overnight to 'fester'. Personally I'd probably do a touch-up job before starting my route: wipe the steering wheel and
control handles but more of a dusting as opposed to a deep cleaning.
Supposed to get into the low 60's this afternoon but also up to 40 MPH
winds this afternoon and rain/thunderstorms around 9 or 10 tonight.
We had that last week, too... and now we're having a similar weather
pattern again this week... a little warmer this week, though, than
last... it was almost 70 today.... And there's only a slight
possibility of the thunderstorms....
We had some rain, thunderstorms, wind earlier this week; today is nice
and clear but very windy. Supposed to get into the lower 70's today;
TV forecast says low-80's for Saturday but ansiweather (wherever their
forecast comes from) says 74ø for Saturday's high. Cooler Sunday and
next week.
Still no thunderstorms here that I'm aware of... rain and wind,High today supposed to be 66ø with a chance of some rain late to
though... and now this week is quite cool for May, after having had a
lovely Sunday, with the high in the high 70s... frost warnings almost
every night this week, and the threat of snow for maybe Saturday...
overnight and a cold front coming through. Still talking about 31ø or
so for Saturday morning and chillier than normal next week.
<TV scanning with a repeater station>
It seemed like the TV would accept the last station scanned, so 47
(repeater, weaker) would be selected over 4 (primary, stronger),
though not always (47.1, 4.2, for example). So good something else
was changed.
True, it would have been less annoying if there seemed to be some
legitmate logic to it... <G>
Though I'd rather have it so both the stations were selected and the
user could select the option of removal.
More likely that you'd pick the proper one to remove or to keep, that
way.... ;)
And there are reasons to want the weaker repeater station: a while
back something happened and Channel 4 (the main station) was on but no
data: the carrier was there but no audio nor video. The repeater
station at Channel 47 was broadcasting properly.
Yes... at that point, you'd want the option to choose the workingIt does make watching the show more entertaining!
station, for sure.... :)
Back from my Abbreviated Thursday Morning Meanderings. "Scored" a
four-pack of Angel Soft toilet paper for a neighbour who has been
on-line shopping but her store (not a HyVee) is always out of toilet
paper. I was talked out of putting a bow on the package as a joke.
[chuckle] Who knows, she might have appreciated the bow.... ;)Yes, I thought she would think it humourous. Oh well.
It was a nice gesture/present all the same... :)
Another time, maybe... ;)
Was at 31ø when I woke up to what sounded like something sliding off
the roof -- must have been the trash pickup as they start at 4 a.m. now
due to the COVID-19. Used to start collections at 7 a.m. Not sure why
they start three hours earlier now but....
I don't think that our pickup times were changed due to COVID-19...
I suppose starting earlier would let them finish earlier, maybe gives
time to sanitize afterwards....?
Possible. Even though automated pick up I'm quite sure there are
accidents: minor ones from the container being blown over by the wind
to more major ones like not being held securely by the picker's
claw-arms. Neither of those are COVID-19 specific; I would have wanted
to clean up after returning from the route. Sanitizing before entering
the trucks would help prevent spread amongst the workers but doesn't
take three hours, plus the start of the route was also advanced. <shrug>
I was thinking sanitizing after the route... which should still beTrue -- to me would make more sense to clean after the day's route
sanitized when they start the next day's route....
than to leave it overnight to 'fester'. Personally I'd probably do a touch-up job before starting my route: wipe the steering wheel and
control handles but more of a dusting as opposed to a deep cleaning.
Besides, if you were the last one in the truck the night before,
how would it have picked up any viruses overnight after your deep clean....?
We had those frost warnings clear through last night (13/14),
every day just about, and one day I did hear a little thunder in
the distance... but now we are finally having warmer weather...
rain on the way, though, and possibly thunderstorms...
<TV scanning with a repeater station>
It seemed like the TV would accept the last station scanned, so 47
(repeater, weaker) would be selected over 4 (primary, stronger),
though not always (47.1, 4.2, for example). So good something else
was changed.
True, it would have been less annoying if there seemed to be some
legitmate logic to it... <G>
Though I'd rather have it so both the stations were selected and the
user could select the option of removal.
More likely that you'd pick the proper one to remove or to keep, that
way.... ;)
And there are reasons to want the weaker repeater station: a while
back something happened and Channel 4 (the main station) was on but no
data: the carrier was there but no audio nor video. The repeater
station at Channel 47 was broadcasting properly.
Yes... at that point, you'd want the option to choose the workingIt does make watching the show more entertaining!
station, for sure.... :)
To say nothing of not being a waste of time.... ;) Better to
have the options available... :)
Back from my Abbreviated Thursday Morning Meanderings. "Scored" a
four-pack of Angel Soft toilet paper for a neighbour who has been
on-line shopping but her store (not a HyVee) is always out of toilet
paper. I was talked out of putting a bow on the package as a joke.
[chuckle] Who knows, she might have appreciated the bow.... ;)
It was a nice gesture/present all the same... :)
Yes, I thought she would think it humourous. Oh well.
Another time, maybe... ;)Hopefully not with toilet paper -- don't want the shortage to last!
Did 'have' to go up the paper goods aisle during yesterday's shopping
-- supply looked pretty good -- still not at full stock but definitely
not almost bare like several weeks ago. Still signage for limit of
one.
The limits probably do help maintain the reasonable supply... :)
<shrug> NB>>> I was thinking sanitizing after the route... whichPossible. Even though automated pick up I'm quite sure there are
accidents: minor ones from the container being blown over by the wind
to more major ones like not being held securely by the picker's
claw-arms. Neither of those are COVID-19 specific; I would have wanted
to clean up after returning from the route. Sanitizing before entering
the trucks would help prevent spread amongst the workers but doesn't
take three hours, plus the start of the route was also advanced.
should still be NB>>> sanitized when they start the next day's
route....
True -- to me would make more sense to clean after the day's route
than to leave it overnight to 'fester'. Personally I'd probably do a
touch-up job before starting my route: wipe the steering wheel and
control handles but more of a dusting as opposed to a deep cleaning.
Besides, if you were the last one in the truck the night before, howThere is a possibility: virus hitchhiking on a breeze from opening the garage door or maybe even the heating system. So I'm thinking a
would it have picked up any viruses overnight after your deep clean...?
thorough cleaning when returning -- probably somehow isolated from the parking lot where the other trucks have been cleaned -- and a touch-up
in the morning.
NOt that the touch-up is a bad thing, but I think the hitchhiking
viruses aren't all that likely....
We had a little rain, but nothing all that significant.... and
currently are having abnormally hot weather... the record for
today is 90ø, and there's a good chance we could meet or beat
that... much too hot for May... another couple of days in the 80s
<TV scanning with a repeater station>
And there are reasons to want the weaker repeater station: a while
back something happened and Channel 4 (the main station) was on but no
data: the carrier was there but no audio nor video. The repeater
station at Channel 47 was broadcasting properly.
Yes... at that point, you'd want the option to choose the working
station, for sure.... :)
It does make watching the show more entertaining!
To say nothing of not being a waste of time.... ;) Better to have theGenerally yes. :)
options available... :)
Unless one really doesn't care about whether or not one sees the program... :)
... "I am Hamlet, Prince of Borg. Prepare to be... or not to be."
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 15-May-2020 10:27 <=-
Back from my Abbreviated Thursday Morning Meanderings. "Scored" a
four-pack of Angel Soft toilet paper for a neighbour who has been
on-line shopping but her store (not a HyVee) is always out of toilet
paper. I was talked out of putting a bow on the package as a joke.
[chuckle] Who knows, she might have appreciated the bow.... ;)
It was a nice gesture/present all the same... :)
Yes, I thought she would think it humourous. Oh well.
Another time, maybe... ;)Hopefully not with toilet paper -- don't want the shortage to last!
Did 'have' to go up the paper goods aisle during yesterday's shopping
-- supply looked pretty good -- still not at full stock but definitely
not almost bare like several weeks ago. Still signage for limit of
one.
Possible. Even though automated pick up I'm quite sure there are
accidents: minor ones from the container being blown over by the wind
to more major ones like not being held securely by the picker's
claw-arms. Neither of those are COVID-19 specific; I would have wanted
to clean up after returning from the route. Sanitizing before entering
the trucks would help prevent spread amongst the workers but doesn't
take three hours, plus the start of the route was also advanced. <shrug>
I was thinking sanitizing after the route... which should still be
sanitized when they start the next day's route....
True -- to me would make more sense to clean after the day's route
than to leave it overnight to 'fester'. Personally I'd probably do a
touch-up job before starting my route: wipe the steering wheel and
control handles but more of a dusting as opposed to a deep cleaning.
Besides, if you were the last one in the truck the night before, howThere is a possibility: virus hitchhiking on a breeze from opening the garage door or maybe even the heating system. So I'm thinking a
would it have picked up any viruses overnight after your deep clean...?
thorough cleaning when returning -- probably somehow isolated from the parking lot where the other trucks have been cleaned -- and a touch-up
in the morning.
We had those frost warnings clear through last night (13/14), everyWe've had thunderstorms overnight the past two nights. Not a lot of
day just about, and one day I did hear a little thunder in the
distance... but now we are finally having warmer weather... rain on
the way, though, and possibly thunderstorms...
rain - think they said two inches for both nights - but the sump pump
is emptying every so often and went by Duck Creek a little while ago to drop off the car to get the new grill installed (broken by the hail
storm a few weeks ago) and it is running very high.
<TV scanning with a repeater station>
And there are reasons to want the weaker repeater station: a while
back something happened and Channel 4 (the main station) was on but no
data: the carrier was there but no audio nor video. The repeater
station at Channel 47 was broadcasting properly.
Yes... at that point, you'd want the option to choose the working
station, for sure.... :)
It does make watching the show more entertaining!
To say nothing of not being a waste of time.... ;) Better to have theGenerally yes. :)
options available... :)
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 27-May-2020 09:46 <=-
Hopefully not with toilet paper -- don't want the shortage to last!
Did 'have' to go up the paper goods aisle during yesterday's shopping
-- supply looked pretty good -- still not at full stock but definitely
not almost bare like several weeks ago. Still signage for limit of
one.
The limits probably do help maintain the reasonable supply... :)Probably, and unless buying for a family of ten with diarrhea one
doesn't need more than one multi-pack at a time.
True -- to me would make more sense to clean after the day's route
than to leave it overnight to 'fester'. Personally I'd probably do a
touch-up job before starting my route: wipe the steering wheel and
control handles but more of a dusting as opposed to a deep cleaning.
Besides, if you were the last one in the truck the night before, how
would it have picked up any viruses overnight after your deep clean...?
There is a possibility: virus hitchhiking on a breeze from opening the
garage door or maybe even the heating system. So I'm thinking a
thorough cleaning when returning -- probably somehow isolated from the
parking lot where the other trucks have been cleaned -- and a touch-up
in the morning.
Not that the touch-up is a bad thing, but I think the hitchhikingI'm thinking also not too likely. Still, because of the high level
viruses aren't all that likely....
of unknown about COVID-19 it seems the better safe than sorry rule applies.
We had a little rain, but nothing all that significant.... andBleah!! on the 90ø! Supposed to get into the low 80's today -- past
currently are having abnormally hot weather... the record for today
is 90ø, and there's a good chance we could meet or beat that... much
too hot for May... another couple of days in the 80s
few days has gotten into the upper 80's which was too hot too suddenly.
Week out forecast for 70's, but potentially rainy, which isn't helping with getting the roof replaced, etc.
<TV scanning with a repeater station>
And there are reasons to want the weaker repeater station: a while
back something happened and Channel 4 (the main station) was on but no
data: the carrier was there but no audio nor video. The repeater
station at Channel 47 was broadcasting properly.
Yes... at that point, you'd want the option to choose the working
station, for sure.... :)
It does make watching the show more entertaining!
To say nothing of not being a waste of time.... ;) Better to have the
options available... :)
Generally yes. :)
Unless one really doesn't care about whether or not one sees theFor you, egh; for me, sometimes an odd-ball form for entertainment!
program... :)
Hopefully not with toilet paper -- don't want the shortage to last!
Did 'have' to go up the paper goods aisle during yesterday's shopping
-- supply looked pretty good -- still not at full stock but definitely
not almost bare like several weeks ago. Still signage for limit of
one.
The limits probably do help maintain the reasonable supply... :)Probably, and unless buying for a family of ten with diarrhea one
doesn't need more than one multi-pack at a time.
And one could always get the 20-pack or the 36-pack (depending on
the store)... ;)
True -- to me would make more sense to clean after the day's route
than to leave it overnight to 'fester'. Personally I'd probably do a
touch-up job before starting my route: wipe the steering wheel and
control handles but more of a dusting as opposed to a deep cleaning.
Besides, if you were the last one in the truck the night before, how
would it have picked up any viruses overnight after your deep clean...?
There is a possibility: virus hitchhiking on a breeze from opening the
garage door or maybe even the heating system. So I'm thinking a
thorough cleaning when returning -- probably somehow isolated from the
parking lot where the other trucks have been cleaned -- and a touch-up
in the morning.
Not that the touch-up is a bad thing, but I think the hitchhikingI'm thinking also not too likely. Still, because of the high level
viruses aren't all that likely....
of unknown about COVID-19 it seems the better safe than sorry rule applies.
There's been probably more than enough of that better safe than
sorry reasoning, though....
We had a little rain, but nothing all that significant.... andBleah!! on the 90ø! Supposed to get into the low 80's today -- past
currently are having abnormally hot weather... the record for today
is 90ø, and there's a good chance we could meet or beat that... much
too hot for May... another couple of days in the 80s
few days has gotten into the upper 80's which was too hot too suddenly.
As I said in earlier messages, we did break that record, with
92ø, then another 90 degree day, and then a couple more in the
high 80s before becoming unseasonably cool for a few days, in the
60s... Now we're back in the mid-80s for a couple of days...
tomorrow is supposed to be only mid 70s, and Sunday only 66ø...
but I'd rather that than the heat...
<TV scanning with a repeater station>
And there are reasons to want the weaker repeater station: a while
back something happened and Channel 4 (the main station) was on but no
data: the carrier was there but no audio nor video. The repeater
station at Channel 47 was broadcasting properly.
Yes... at that point, you'd want the option to choose the working
station, for sure.... :)
It does make watching the show more entertaining!
To say nothing of not being a waste of time.... ;) Better to have the
options available... :)
Generally yes. :)
Unless one really doesn't care about whether or not one sees theFor you, egh; for me, sometimes an odd-ball form for entertainment!
program... :)
True... :)
True: quite sure a large family would have been buying the 20- or 36-
(or more!) packs prior to the shortage. Of course a potential problem
of timing: going to purchase during the shopping trip planned for just after the shortage-hoarding hit. "Four pack? We have that many bathrooms!"
Right: too-clean hasn't caused a problem. Plus if one sees the
cleaning being done or does it themselves then knows it's clean. Technically may have been cleaned much more thoroughly before, but seeing/doing the cleaning is a psychological boost.
66ø?! Get the sweaters on!! We've been in the middle and upper 80's lately. They're talking about hitting 90ø today (Saturday June 6th)
and somewhere in the low 90's on Monday -- nothing significant about
next Monday except that's when we're supposed to be getting the roof replaced (hail storm damaged). Wednesday and Thursday they forecast
rain from the remnants of (Tropical Storm) Cristobal. Roof isn't
leaking, just want to get it done. And maybe a little emphasis because 'everyone' around here has been or having their roof redone from the
same storm.
Sort of along those lines we've bene watching the Teachers Tournament
on _Jeopardy!_ -- that was taped last February (!) -- three or four
months ago. The 'big deal' on that bit of trivia (they put up an
overlay announcing the detail) is there is an audience - if current
would not be an audience.
True: quite sure a large family would have been buying the 20- or 36-
(or more!) packs prior to the shortage. Of course a potential problem
of timing: going to purchase during the shopping trip planned for just after the shortage-hoarding hit. "Four pack? We have that many bathrooms!"
I've got plenty of toilet paper and paper towels...which helps
being the only one here.
I have a new toilet bowl cleaner that I need to try out, but
I'm trying to get all the computer work done before the remnants
of Cristobal get here.
66ø?! Get the sweaters on!! We've been in the middle and upper 80's lately. They're talking about hitting 90ø today (Saturday June 6th)
and somewhere in the low 90's on Monday -- nothing significant about
next Monday except that's when we're supposed to be getting the roof replaced (hail storm damaged). Wednesday and Thursday they forecast
rain from the remnants of (Tropical Storm) Cristobal. Roof isn't
leaking, just want to get it done. And maybe a little emphasis because 'everyone' around here has been or having their roof redone from the
same storm.
The rain will cool us off, but once it ends, and the sun and
heat return, all that soil moisture will push the heat index over
100.
Sort of along those lines we've bene watching the Teachers Tournament
on _Jeopardy!_ -- that was taped last February (!) -- three or four
months ago. The 'big deal' on that bit of trivia (they put up an
overlay announcing the detail) is there is an audience - if current
would not be an audience.
COVID19 has killed many of the TV shows...game shows, soap
operas, etc.
I've got plenty of toilet paper and paper towels...which helps
being the only one here.
Except when you run out from on the wall and the spares are in the closest!
Makes sense: you can always clean the toilet by candlelight but can't
run the computers without power! <g>
Yesterday (Monday) the roofers were here to replace the roof (hail
damage) -- the semi-official high I saw was 92ø but the (digital) thermometer here at the house said 99ø. Today's high only supposed to
be in the mid-80's but rain around noon -- Cristobal is over Missouri currently and tracking for us to be on the eastern leading edge around noon. Tomorrow and Thursday almost cold at in the 70's.
"It's going to be interesting!" It looked like some of the shows we
watch ended a bit oddly due to a quick wrap-up because of impending closures/shutdowns. Other seasonal shows have a full audience -- "obviously" recorded before the pandemic hit. (Some of) the soap
operas are showing reruns: was channel-surfing and saw one in was in
the old 4:3 format (back in the analog TV days with CRTs/glass picture tubes.
I'm curious as to what will happen in the Fall when the television
season traditionally starts up again?
... "The Lawrence Welk Show" premiered on ABC-TV on July 2, 1955.
I've got plenty of toilet paper and paper towels...which helps
being the only one here.
Except when you run out from on the wall and the spares are in the closest!
I check that before I go fight the cat in the sandbox...plus I
don't use that many paper towels. Housecleaning is on hold for
another week, until I see the hernia surgeron.
Makes sense: you can always clean the toilet by candlelight but can't
run the computers without power! <g>
But, it's not fun when you're on the throne, and the lights go
out. :P
Yesterday (Monday) the roofers were here to replace the roof (hail
damage) -- the semi-official high I saw was 92ø but the (digital) thermometer here at the house said 99ø. Today's high only supposed to
be in the mid-80's but rain around noon -- Cristobal is over Missouri currently and tracking for us to be on the eastern leading edge around noon. Tomorrow and Thursday almost cold at in the 70's.
We're having highs in the 80s and lows in the low 60s, but it
must've been in the 50s last night. I got chilled, so I had to
turn the heat on. The forecast high by next Wednesdsay is 93...so
heat advisories may return soon.
"It's going to be interesting!" It looked like some of the shows we
watch ended a bit oddly due to a quick wrap-up because of impending closures/shutdowns. Other seasonal shows have a full audience -- "obviously" recorded before the pandemic hit. (Some of) the soap
operas are showing reruns: was channel-surfing and saw one in was in
the old 4:3 format (back in the analog TV days with CRTs/glass picture tubes.
Then, they are using the laugh tracks instead of a live
audience. Plus, all the money the actors and everyone else lost,
when production was suspeneded. We'll move to Phase 2 of
reopening on Monday...not sure when Phase 3 will occur, or if
there's a Phase 4.
I'm curious as to what will happen in the Fall when the television
season traditionally starts up again?
Reruns of reruns?? :P
... "The Lawrence Welk Show" premiered on ABC-TV on July 2, 1955.
I love watching ragtime pianist JoAnn Castle.
In the first floor batheroom there's a small wooden storage cabinet and
a 'emergency' roll of toilet paper is kept in there, should not plan
ahead or doesn't look like running out. Upstairs bathoom has a free-standing metal toilet paper holder: the roll for use hangs at the top, the spare rolls stack underneath. Run out of paper and it's your
own fault as in plain sight!
But, it's not fun when you're on the throne, and the lights go
out. :P
<chuckle> No! LIS some time back, here have a couple of plug-in
emergency lights, a few 'regular' lights powered by various UPSs. No emergency lighting in the bathrooms; have taken showers by lantern
light after the fact (power had gone out).
Your chill may also have been a reaction to healing from the hernia surgery. If you're cold and putting on a sweater, etc., doesn't work, furnace it is!
Next week here is supposed to be cooler than average, IIRC. "It is
what it is". In summer the house tends to get hot in the evening even though cooling off outside, so sometimes it's in the 80's outside and
we have the windows open or otherise cool inside; might be 70's or even 60's outside, getting into the 80's inside, so flip on the air!
The whole thing has a bunch of new's -- sure, have been strikes with a segment of the workforce out, but never to this extent.
Off-hand not sure what stage/step/level Iowa and Illinois are at.
Things are more or less in a state of flux as numbers dictate. Even if officially announced an all-clear I'm going to maintain caution for a while.
Update: The noon news stated Iowa is removing the 50% capacity
limitations for restaurants, and several other sites effective today
(Friday June 12). They did not mention what's going on on the
Illinois side. The hospitals are allowing one adult visitor per
patient. two for end-of-life and births.
I'm curious as to what will happen in the Fall when the television
season traditionally starts up again?
Reruns of reruns?? :P
Some could be worthwhile!
... "The Lawrence Welk Show" premiered on ABC-TV on July 2, 1955.
I love watching ragtime pianist JoAnn Castle.
So a rerun on other than PBS would be of interest!
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 06-Jun-2020 10:32 <=-
-- supply looked pretty good -- still not at full stock but definitely
not almost bare like several weeks ago. Still signage for limit of
one.
The limits probably do help maintain the reasonable supply... :)
Probably, and unless buying for a family of ten with diarrhea one
doesn't need more than one multi-pack at a time.
And one could always get the 20-pack or the 36-pack (depending onTrue: quite sure a large family would have been buying the 20- or 36-
the store)... ;)
(or more!) packs prior to the shortage. Of course a potential problem
of timing: going to purchase during the shopping trip planned for just after the shortage-hoarding hit. "Four pack? We have that many bathrooms!"
There is a possibility: virus hitchhiking on a breeze from opening the
garage door or maybe even the heating system. So I'm thinking a
thorough cleaning when returning -- probably somehow isolated from the
parking lot where the other trucks have been cleaned -- and a touch-up
in the morning.
Not that the touch-up is a bad thing, but I think the hitchhiking
viruses aren't all that likely....
I'm thinking also not too likely. Still, because of the high level
of unknown about COVID-19 it seems the better safe than sorry rule
applies.
There's been probably more than enough of that better safe thanRight: too-clean hasn't caused a problem. Plus if one sees the
sorry reasoning, though....
cleaning being done or does it themselves then knows it's clean. Technically may have been cleaned much more thoroughly before, but seeing/doing the cleaning is a psychological boost.
As I said in earlier messages, we did break that record, with 92ø,66ø?! Get the sweaters on!! We've been in the middle and upper 80's lately. They're talking about hitting 90ø today (Saturday June 6th)
then another 90 degree day, and then a couple more in the high 80s
before becoming unseasonably cool for a few days, in the 60s... Now
we're back in the mid-80s for a couple of days... tomorrow is
supposed to be only mid 70s, and Sunday only 66ø... but I'd rather
that than the heat...
and somewhere in the low 90's on Monday -- nothing significant about
next Monday except that's when we're supposed to be getting the roof replaced (hail storm damaged). Wednesday and Thursday they forecast
rain from the remnants of (Tropical Storm) Cristobal. Roof isn't
leaking, just want to get it done. And maybe a little emphasis because 'everyone' around here has been or having their roof redone from the
same storm.
<TV scanning with a repeater station>
Sort of along those lines we've bene watching the Teachers Tournament
on _Jeopardy!_ -- that was taped last February (!) -- three or four
months ago. The 'big deal' on that bit of trivia (they put up an
overlay announcing the detail) is there is an audience - if current
would not be an audience.
In the first floor batheroom there's a small wooden storage cabinet and
a 'emergency' roll of toilet paper is kept in there, should not plan
ahead or doesn't look like running out. Upstairs bathoom has a free-standing metal toilet paper holder: the roll for use hangs at the top, the spare rolls stack underneath. Run out of paper and it's your
own fault as in plain sight!
The thing is, if you have cats, you had better hide that toilet
paper real well. Otherwise, the cat will unroll and/or shred it
to pieces!!
But, it's not fun when you're on the throne, and the lights go
out. :P
<chuckle> No! LIS some time back, here have a couple of plug-in
emergency lights, a few 'regular' lights powered by various UPSs. No emergency lighting in the bathrooms; have taken showers by lantern
light after the fact (power had gone out).
It's even worse at night. While living alone is where you can
poop with the door open, if I have the door to the shower area
open, during the day, light comes in to help...but it's obviously
not the case at night. The light in the shower area has gone out,
and I don't have the means to replace it.
Your chill may also have been a reaction to healing from the hernia surgery. If you're cold and putting on a sweater, etc., doesn't work, furnace it is!
Not sure. But, my internal thermometer is screwed up, anyway.
It's getting near 90 for highs and in the 60s for lows...but temperatures are slowly rising.
The whole thing has a bunch of new's -- sure, have been strikes with a segment of the workforce out, but never to this extent.
This makes the Depression of 1929 look tame.
Off-hand not sure what stage/step/level Iowa and Illinois are at.
Things are more or less in a state of flux as numbers dictate. Even if officially announced an all-clear I'm going to maintain caution for a while.
Same here. But, I doubt we'll ever be back to what it was like
before COVID-19.
Update: The noon news stated Iowa is removing the 50% capacity
limitations for restaurants, and several other sites effective today
(Friday June 12). They did not mention what's going on on the
Illinois side. The hospitals are allowing one adult visitor per
patient. two for end-of-life and births.
I pray I don't have to go back for medical stuff again until my
next colonoscopy in April.
I'm curious as to what will happen in the Fall when the television
season traditionally starts up again?
Reruns of reruns?? :P
Some could be worthwhile!
Remember the I Love Lucy episode, where she was a cookie plant
worker, and started having to eat all of them, as the deal was
moving too fast for her?? <G>
... "The Lawrence Welk Show" premiered on ABC-TV on July 2, 1955.
I love watching ragtime pianist JoAnn Castle.
So a rerun on other than PBS would be of interest!
I think YouTube has many of those shows.
-- supply looked pretty good -- still not at full stock but definitely
not almost bare like several weeks ago. Still signage for limit of
one.
The limits probably do help maintain the reasonable supply... :)
Probably, and unless buying for a family of ten with diarrhea one
doesn't need more than one multi-pack at a time.
And one could always get the 20-pack or the 36-pack (depending onTrue: quite sure a large family would have been buying the 20- or 36-
the store)... ;)
(or more!) packs prior to the shortage. Of course a potential problem
of timing: going to purchase during the shopping trip planned for just after the shortage-hoarding hit. "Four pack? We have that many bathrooms!"
They would have had to hit more than one store, I guess... or go
multiple times to get past the limits.... thankfully that now
seems to be behind us again, though... :)
As I said in earlier messages, we did break that record, with 92ø,66ø?! Get the sweaters on!! We've been in the middle and upper 80's lately. They're talking about hitting 90ø today (Saturday June 6th)
then another 90 degree day, and then a couple more in the high 80s
before becoming unseasonably cool for a few days, in the 60s... Now
we're back in the mid-80s for a couple of days... tomorrow is
supposed to be only mid 70s, and Sunday only 66ø... but I'd rather
that than the heat...
and somewhere in the low 90's on Monday -- nothing significant about
next Monday except that's when we're supposed to be getting the roof replaced (hail storm damaged). Wednesday and Thursday they forecast
rain from the remnants of (Tropical Storm) Cristobal. Roof isn't
leaking, just want to get it done. And maybe a little emphasis because 'everyone' around here has been or having their roof redone from the
same storm.
THe hail was an equal opportunity destroyer, after all... ;)
<TV scanning with a repeater station>
Sort of along those lines we've bene watching the Teachers TournamentGives an clue how far in advance these shows are taped.... ;)
on _Jeopardy!_ -- that was taped last February (!) -- three or four
months ago. The 'big deal' on that bit of trivia (they put up an
overlay announcing the detail) is there is an audience - if current
would not be an audience.
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 16-Jun-2020 10:27 <=-
one could get the 20-pack or the 36-pack (depending on the store)...
True: quite sure a large family would have been buying the 20- or 36-
(or more!) packs prior to the shortage. Of course a potential problem
of timing: going to purchase during the shopping trip planned for just
after the shortage-hoarding hit. "Four pack? We have that many
bathrooms!"
They would have had to hit more than one store, I guess... or goTrue and true. If had cash could have given the few dollars to each family member and they could have gone through to make the 'necessary' individual purchases. Passing back the credit card might be a little obvious, but so would a 6-year old buying something besides candy or a toy.
multiple times to get past the limits.... thankfully that now seems to
be behind us again, though... :)
(As a cashier I would have let the credit card passing go
through, unless prohibited by some company rule. When I was working
there was a promotion to get a [forgot dollar amount] gift card with a $100 purchase [whatever the qualifiers were]. I was helping a customer
in Luggage, she bought three $100+ suitcases. I ended up ringing her
out; rang the three suitcases, so $300+, dawned on me could maybe ring them up separately so could get three gift cards -- asked her if she wanted me to try and warned her the credit card might flag the repeated same-dollar purchases as well as the gift card might flag. She agreed
we could try, I voided the original three item sale, tried the
individual sales -- all went through, so she got three gift cards
instead of just the one. She was a happy customer.)
They're talking about hitting 90ø today (Saturday June 6th) and
somewhere in the low 90's on Monday -- nothing significant about next
Monday except that's when we're supposed to be getting the roof replaced
(hail storm damaged). Wednesday and Thursday they forecast rain from
the remnants of (Tropical Storm) Cristobal. Roof isn't leaking, just
want to get it done. And maybe a little emphasis because 'everyone'
around here has been or having their roof redone from the same storm.
The hail was an equal opportunity destroyer, after all... ;)Around here seemed to be! The only homes that seemed to escape
needing a re-roof is if the roof went east-west instead of north-south.
Sort of along those lines we've been watching the Teachers Tournament
on _Jeopardy!_ -- that was taped last February (!) -- three or four
months ago. The 'big deal' on that bit of trivia (they put up an
overlay announcing the detail) is there is an audience - if current
would not be an audience.
Gives an clue how far in advance these shows are taped.... ;)Some of the summer shows are on now and so they must have been
recorded several months ago.
Sort of possibly figured out Jeopardy!'s reason for taping so early:
in the past have done tours like to the Galapagos Islands so
'obviously' not doing the studio stuff then.
one could get the 20-pack or the 36-pack (depending on the store)...
True: quite sure a large family would have been buying the 20- or 36-
(or more!) packs prior to the shortage. Of course a potential problem
of timing: going to purchase during the shopping trip planned for just
after the shortage-hoarding hit. "Four pack? We have that many
bathrooms!"
They would have had to hit more than one store, I guess... or goTrue and true. If had cash could have given the few dollars to each family member and they could have gone through to make the 'necessary' individual purchases. Passing back the credit card might be a little obvious, but so would a 6-year old buying something besides candy or a toy.
multiple times to get past the limits.... thankfully that now seems to
be behind us again, though... :)
Kids grow up fast in crisis situations...? ;) One could also
set things up as separate orders (as we've done when buying for
other people), which could work within reason... ;)
(As a cashier I would have let the credit card passing go
through, unless prohibited by some company rule. When I was working
there was a promotion to get a [forgot dollar amount] gift card with a $100 purchase [whatever the qualifiers were]. I was helping a customer
in Luggage, she bought three $100+ suitcases. I ended up ringing her
out; rang the three suitcases, so $300+, dawned on me could maybe ring them up separately so could get three gift cards -- asked her if she wanted me to try and warned her the credit card might flag the repeated same-dollar purchases as well as the gift card might flag. She agreed
we could try, I voided the original three item sale, tried the
individual sales -- all went through, so she got three gift cards
instead of just the one. She was a happy customer.)
That was a nice fortuitous situation... :)
They're talking about hitting 90ø today (Saturday June 6th) and
somewhere in the low 90's on Monday -- nothing significant about next
Monday except that's when we're supposed to be getting the roof replaced
(hail storm damaged). Wednesday and Thursday they forecast rain from
the remnants of (Tropical Storm) Cristobal. Roof isn't leaking, just
want to get it done. And maybe a little emphasis because 'everyone'
around here has been or having their roof redone from the same storm.
The hail was an equal opportunity destroyer, after all... ;)Around here seemed to be! The only homes that seemed to escape
needing a re-roof is if the roof went east-west instead of north-south.
So the storm hit those roofs differently...
Sort of along those lines we've been watching the Teachers Tournament
on _Jeopardy!_ -- that was taped last February (!) -- three or four
months ago. The 'big deal' on that bit of trivia (they put up an
overlay announcing the detail) is there is an audience - if current
would not be an audience.
Gives an clue how far in advance these shows are taped.... ;)Some of the summer shows are on now and so they must have been
recorded several months ago.
Sort of possibly figured out Jeopardy!'s reason for taping so early:
in the past have done tours like to the Galapagos Islands so
'obviously' not doing the studio stuff then.
As I understand it, there usually is a concentrated time of
taping a whole season of shows.... one right after another all
within a day or a few days...
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 26-Jun-2020 15:53 <=-
They would have had to hit more than one store, I guess... or go
multiple times to get past the limits.... thankfully that now seems
to be behind us again, though... :)
True and true. If had cash could have given the few dollars to each
family member and they could have gone through to make the 'necessary'
individual purchases. Passing back the credit card might be a little
obvious, but so would a 6-year old buying something besides candy or a
toy.
Kids grow up fast in crisis situations...? ;) One could also setYes and yes. Might be a little obvious one was trying to circumvent
things up as separate orders (as we've done when buying for other
people), which could work within reason... ;)
the limitation if only the toilet paper was being rung up separately --
so on TP with eggs and milk, another TP with bread....
Just don't pull randomly from the cart, at least make it look like
there are separate lists! <g>
(As a cashier I would have let the credit card passing go
through, unless prohibited by some company rule. When I was working
there was a promotion to get a [forgot dollar amount] gift card with a
$100 purchase [whatever the qualifiers were]. I was helping a customer
in Luggage, she bought three $100+ suitcases. I ended up ringing her
out; rang the three suitcases, so $300+, dawned on me could maybe ring
them up separately so could get three gift cards -- asked her if she
wanted me to try and warned her the credit card might flag the repeated
same-dollar purchases as well as the gift card might flag. She agreed
we could try, I voided the original three item sale, tried the
individual sales -- all went through, so she got three gift cards
instead of just the one. She was a happy customer.)
That was a nice fortuitous situation... :)Yes. :) LIS, I did make sure she understood there was a possibility
the system could deny and I couldn't override. (CYA!)
The hail was an equal opportunity destroyer, after all... ;)
Around here seemed to be! The only homes that seemed to escape
needing a re-roof is if the roof went east-west instead of north-south.
So the storm hit those roofs differently...
Seems to have. Does make some sense: hail hitting the westward-facingNo updates for the remainder of the repair here.
roof straight-on (would sail over the eastward). North- and
southfacing roofs the hail would have hit but maybe more like a rock
skipping over water.
Sort of along those lines we've been watching the Teachers Tournament
on _Jeopardy!_ -- that was taped last February (!) -- three or four
months ago. The 'big deal' on that bit of trivia (they put up an
overlay announcing the detail) is there is an audience - if current
would not be an audience.
Gives an clue how far in advance these shows are taped.... ;)
Some of the summer shows are on now and so they must have been
recorded several months ago.
Sort of possibly figured out Jeopardy!'s reason for taping so early:
in the past have done tours like to the Galapagos Islands so
'obviously' not doing the studio stuff then.
As I understand it, there usually is a concentrated time of taping aYes -- and for game shows makes sense to do several shows in one day
whole season of shows.... one right after another all within a day
or a few days...
while the crew is there, studio set up, etc. Current Jeopardy! is
showing reruns of how the more winning contestants got to where their final score was obtained. Had read where one of the considerations
was taping the show without an audience. With Jeopardy! the TV viewer
is usually unaware there even is an audience (though sometimes they
laugh or shown), I'm thinking at least let the family and friends of
the contestants be there, spread out.
... Be sure to finish speaking before your audience has finished listening.
They would have had to hit more than one store, I guess... or go
multiple times to get past the limits.... thankfully that now seems
to be behind us again, though... :)
True and true. If had cash could have given the few dollars to each
family member and they could have gone through to make the 'necessary'
individual purchases. Passing back the credit card might be a little
obvious, but so would a 6-year old buying something besides candy or a
toy.
Kids grow up fast in crisis situations...? ;) One could also setYes and yes. Might be a little obvious one was trying to circumvent
things up as separate orders (as we've done when buying for other
people), which could work within reason... ;)
the limitation if only the toilet paper was being rung up separately --
so on TP with eggs and milk, another TP with bread....
And a large family would have plenty of things they were buying
as well, to portion out... :)
Just don't pull randomly from the cart, at least make it look like
there are separate lists! <g>
In that case, it should be one dozen eggs and bread and a gallon
of milk with one pack TP, another gallon milk and another dozen
eggs with the next pack of TP.... etc... Pulling randomly might
not be too obvious, actually, though... :)
(As a cashier I would have let the credit card passing go
through, unless prohibited by some company rule. When I was working
there was a promotion to get a [forgot dollar amount] gift card with a
$100 purchase [whatever the qualifiers were]. I was helping a customer
in Luggage, she bought three $100+ suitcases. I ended up ringing her
out; rang the three suitcases, so $300+, dawned on me could maybe ring
them up separately so could get three gift cards -- asked her if she
wanted me to try and warned her the credit card might flag the repeated
same-dollar purchases as well as the gift card might flag. She agreed
we could try, I voided the original three item sale, tried the
individual sales -- all went through, so she got three gift cards
instead of just the one. She was a happy customer.)
That was a nice fortuitous situation... :)Yes. :) LIS, I did make sure she understood there was a possibility
the system could deny and I couldn't override. (CYA!)
Right... but as it happened, it worked out fine after all... :)
Sort of along those lines we've been watching the Teachers Tournament
on _Jeopardy!_ -- that was taped last February (!) -- three or four
months ago. The 'big deal' on that bit of trivia (they put up an
overlay announcing the detail) is there is an audience - if current
would not be an audience.
Gives an clue how far in advance these shows are taped.... ;)
Some of the summer shows are on now and so they must have been
recorded several months ago.
Sort of possibly figured out Jeopardy!'s reason for taping so early:
in the past have done tours like to the Galapagos Islands so
'obviously' not doing the studio stuff then.
As I understand it, there usually is a concentrated time of taping aYes -- and for game shows makes sense to do several shows in one day
whole season of shows.... one right after another all within a day
or a few days...
while the crew is there, studio set up, etc. Current Jeopardy! is
showing reruns of how the more winning contestants got to where their final score was obtained. Had read where one of the considerations
was taping the show without an audience. With Jeopardy! the TV viewer
is usually unaware there even is an audience (though sometimes they
laugh or shown), I'm thinking at least let the family and friends of
the contestants be there, spread out.
Would seem reasonable to me... or at least some group of those...
... Be sure to finish speaking before your audience has finished listening.
A rule for lecturers in general... :)
Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 03-Jul-2020 08:35 <=-
One could also set things up as separate orders (as we've done when
buying for other people), which could work within reason... ;)
Yes and yes. Might be a little obvious one was trying to circumvent
the limitation if only the toilet paper was being rung up separately --
so one TP with eggs and milk, another TP with bread....
And a large family would have plenty of things they were buying asThat's true. Might go through a gallon of milk per day, or every
well, to portion out... :)
other day; head of lettuce for salad... I'm trying to visualize the
Brady Bunch (old TV show) when coming home from shopping.
Just don't pull randomly from the cart, at least make it look like
there are separate lists! <g>
In that case, it should be one dozen eggs and bread and a gallon ofIf everyone needs toilet paper with every order they also need a new cookbook! <g>
milk with one pack TP, another gallon milk and another dozen eggs
with the next pack of TP.... etc... Pulling randomly might not be
too obvious, actually, though... :)
Gives an clue how far in advance these shows are taped.... ;)
Some of the summer shows are on now and so they must have been
recorded several months ago.
Sort of possibly figured out Jeopardy!'s reason for taping so early:
in the past have done tours like to the Galapagos Islands so
'obviously' not doing the studio stuff then.
As I understand it, there usually is a concentrated time of taping a
whole season of shows.... one right after another all within a day
or a few days...
Yes -- and for game shows makes sense to do several shows in one day
while the crew is there, studio set up, etc. Current Jeopardy! is
showing reruns of how the more winning contestants got to where their
final score was obtained. Had read where one of the considerations
was taping the show without an audience. With Jeopardy! the TV viewer
is usually unaware there even is an audience (though sometimes they
laugh or shown), I'm thinking at least let the family and friends of
the contestants be there, spread out.
Would seem reasonable to me... or at least some group of those...To me also. Probably some logistical issues and so easier to have no audience at all, or they're just waiting things out until return to a version of normal again.
I know you don't/rarely watch TV but for those of us who do I'm
thinking the Fall season might have a bunch of failed to make it
initially shows being released to fill the time slots. ...Might be
able to see some of those movies we've been intending to watch!
(Wonder if the VHS still works?!)
... Be sure to finish speaking before your audience has finished
listening.
A rule for lecturers in general... :)Especially class when the bell rings!
[stretching limits]
One could also set things up as separate orders (as we've done when
buying for other people), which could work within reason... ;)
Yes and yes. Might be a little obvious one was trying to circumvent
the limitation if only the toilet paper was being rung up separately --
so one TP with eggs and milk, another TP with bread....
And a large family would have plenty of things they were buying asThat's true. Might go through a gallon of milk per day, or every
well, to portion out... :)
other day; head of lettuce for salad... I'm trying to visualize the
Brady Bunch (old TV show) when coming home from shopping.
Yes, I know the Brady Bunch... ;) And they only had six kids...
;) I was one of eight... <G> We easily went through a gallon or
more of milk daily... (which was why they started doing the
'funny milk', instant dry skim milk, to make the whole milk go
farther)...
Gives an clue how far in advance these shows are taped.... ;)
Some of the summer shows are on now and so they must have been
recorded several months ago.
Sort of possibly figured out Jeopardy!'s reason for taping so early:
in the past have done tours like to the Galapagos Islands so
'obviously' not doing the studio stuff then.
As I understand it, there usually is a concentrated time of taping a
whole season of shows.... one right after another all within a day
or a few days...
Yes -- and for game shows makes sense to do several shows in one day
while the crew is there, studio set up, etc. Current Jeopardy! is
showing reruns of how the more winning contestants got to where their
final score was obtained. Had read where one of the considerations
was taping the show without an audience. With Jeopardy! the TV viewer
is usually unaware there even is an audience (though sometimes they
laugh or shown), I'm thinking at least let the family and friends of
the contestants be there, spread out.
Would seem reasonable to me... or at least some group of those...To me also. Probably some logistical issues and so easier to have no audience at all, or they're just waiting things out until return to a version of normal again.
If they're considered a non-essential business, it would take
longer to get going again, too....
... Be sure to finish speaking before your audience has finished
listening.
A rule for lecturers in general... :)Especially class when the bell rings!
They are supposed to finish before the last bell rings, anyway...
;)
Yes -- and for game shows makes sense to do several shows in one day
while the crew is there, studio set up, etc. Current Jeopardy! is
showing reruns of how the more winning contestants got to where their
final score was obtained. Had read where one of the considerations
was taping the show without an audience. With Jeopardy! the TV viewer
is usually unaware there even is an audience (though sometimes they
laugh or shown), I'm thinking at least let the family and friends of
the contestants be there, spread out.
Would seem reasonable to me... or at least some group of those...
To me also. Probably some logistical issues and so easier to have no
audience at all, or they're just waiting things out until return to a
version of normal again.
If they're considered a non-essential business, it would take longerTrue, though the way things are going in general audiences are going
to get going again, too....
to be verboten for some time.
Quite likely...
And of course there's the problem with
the number of various people required to create a show: not only the actors and their circles of family and friends but the hair stylists, makeup artists, wardrobe designers and their interaction with the
actors, so add their circles of family and friends to the equation.
Now add in the production crew....
But all that could be done with distancing, to a large extent....
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