• Drinking And More

    From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to BARRY MARTIN on Mon Aug 19 16:53:00 2019
    Hi Daryl!

    Hi, Barry...

    I went 4 1/2 years between stones...and didn't start having
    them until I was 50.

    I'm not sure who's the winner here! <bseg>

    I would've been, had I still not had any. But, they are hereditary,
    and once you've had one, you're subject to having more.

    Umm, refilling the five gallon jug you're drinking from?! I do have a BM>concern for drinking too much water -- just like everything too much is BM>bad as is too little.

    Actually, I have several 1 liter bottles of flavored water, and at
    least 3 12 packs of flavored water...peach, black cherry, and strawberry flavored. No sugar or calories in any of it.

    Water intoxication - when you drink too much water

    I'm serfectly pober, ocifer. I'm not as think as you drunk I am, not
    under the alcfluence of incohol <HIC!> :P

    Therefore, in order to avoid hyponatremia symptoms, you should not
    drink more than 27-33 ounces (0.8-1.0 liters) of water per hour, on
    average (14). Many reported cases of water intoxication result from
    drinking large amounts of water in a short period of time.

    Well, when I go out, I usually drink a Coca-Cola or Doctor Pepper to
    get my caffeine fix. But, if I stay home, it's flavored water only.
    Sometimes, the lack of caffeine, I think, brings on headaches...just
    like tension.

    How do I know if I drank too much water?

    I have to go to the orifice regularly. <G>

    I don't think you're at a danger level but might be getting close; just BM>copied in the above as things to be aware of. ...And you haven't BM>mentioned it but water is in other items besides water: popsicles,
    fruits (watermelon!), etc.

    I am still looking for the "personal watermelon" or "seedless
    watermelon". Chilled watermelon sounds really good on a hot summer day.

    Daryl

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Tue Aug 20 08:39:00 2019

    Hi Daryl!

    I went 4 1/2 years between stones...and didn't start having
    them until I was 50.
    I'm not sure who's the winner here! <bseg>
    I would've been, had I still not had any. But, they are
    hereditary, and once you've had one, you're subject to having
    more.

    'Hereditary' or 'genetic'? Agree if had once will more than likely have
    them again.


    Umm, refilling the five gallon jug you're drinking from?! I do have a
    concern for drinking too much water -- just like everything too much is
    bad as is too little.
    Actually, I have several 1 liter bottles of flavored water, and
    at least 3 12 packs of flavored water...peach, black cherry, and strawberry flavored. No sugar or calories in any of it.

    I'm in the phase currently of coffee in the morning and then iced water
    the rest of the day. Pretty much my base routine. Winter I'll add hot
    tea - last winter was usually green tea but have had regular and
    flavoured teas. Past years have added some flavourings to my water:
    plop in a tea bag (green or flavoured), dash of lemon juice. I haven't
    looked for flavoured waters.


    Water intoxication - when you drink too much water
    I'm serfectly pober, ocifer. I'm not as think as you drunk I
    am, not under the alcfluence of incohol <HIC!> :P

    As the officer eyes suspiciously your 'water on the rocks'! (Water with
    ice.) Probably no potential issues with water intoxication, just
    something to be aware of with high intakes.


    Therefore, in order to avoid hyponatremia symptoms, you should not
    drink more than 27-33 ounces (0.8-1.0 liters) of water per hour, on
    average (14). Many reported cases of water intoxication result from
    drinking large amounts of water in a short period of time.
    Well, when I go out, I usually drink a Coca-Cola or Doctor
    Pepper to get my caffeine fix. But, if I stay home, it's flavored
    water only. Sometimes, the lack of caffeine, I think, brings on headaches...just like tension.

    Some people do have caffeine withdrawal symptoms. Or the jolt of
    caffeine included with some aspirins makes them feel better faster by re-introducing the caffeine.


    How do I know if I drank too much water?
    I have to go to the orifice regularly. <G>

    Worse would be drinking water while urinating!!


    I don't think you're at a danger level but might be getting close; just
    copied in the above as things to be aware of. ...And you haven't
    mentioned it but water is in other items besides water: popsicles,
    fruits (watermelon!), etc.
    I am still looking for the "personal watermelon" or "seedless watermelon". Chilled watermelon sounds really good on a hot
    summer day.

    My Hy-Vee (regional grocery store) offers chunks/hunks of watermelon --
    half, quarters, smaller. Also offers larger plastic cups (pints,
    quarts) of bite-sized mixed summer fruits.

    My Mother will freeze banana slices, grapes (removed from the stem) and
    nibble on the frozen fruits. Suppose could do the same for watermelon, strawberries, and other fruits, just cut into bite-size pieces. (For me
    the frozen fruit is OK but I prefer mine chilled or room temperature.)



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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to BARRY MARTIN on Thu Aug 22 17:07:00 2019
    Hi Daryl!

    Hi, Barry...

    I would've been, had I still not had any. But, they are
    hereditary, and once you've had one, you're subject to having
    more.

    'Hereditary' or 'genetic'? Agree if had once will more than likely have BM>them again.

    Not sure which was the better choice of words. But, with my mind
    spinning faster than an EF-5 tornado the last 2 weeks, in the aftermath
    of my urinary bladder stone surgery, plus my Mom's death and funeral,
    I'm surprised I know which was is up anymore.

    I'm in the phase currently of coffee in the morning and then iced water BM>the rest of the day. Pretty much my base routine. Winter I'll add hot BM>tea - last winter was usually green tea but have had regular and BM>flavoured teas. Past years have added some flavourings to my water:
    plop in a tea bag (green or flavoured), dash of lemon juice. I haven't BM>looked for flavoured waters.

    I never acquired a taste for coffee. I used to drink ice tea and
    Gatorade by the bucketful. When I see the urologist in a surgery
    followup next week, I'm going to try to find out what I can eat and
    drink that won't give me problems. I really don't want to take Lasix
    every day...because that means I have to pee every 5 minutes.

    As the officer eyes suspiciously your 'water on the rocks'! (Water with BM>ice.) Probably no potential issues with water intoxication, just BM>something to be aware of with high intakes.

    Or, you're using actual rocks, which means you're stoned. <G>

    Some people do have caffeine withdrawal symptoms. Or the jolt of BM>caffeine included with some aspirins makes them feel better faster by BM>re-introducing the caffeine.

    I never thought too much of caffeine, but chocolate and tea has a lot
    of it. As noted, I never acquired a taste for coffee.

    How do I know if I drank too much water?
    I have to go to the orifice regularly. <G>

    Worse would be drinking water while urinating!!

    Talk about "easy come, easy go". <G>

    My Hy-Vee (regional grocery store) offers chunks/hunks of watermelon -- BM>half, quarters, smaller. Also offers larger plastic cups (pints,
    quarts) of bite-sized mixed summer fruits.

    I need to look for that the next time I'm grocery shopping. We had a 1
    hour power outage here earlier today (I wasn't here at the time...I was
    at a local restaurant for the "mourners meal" after my Mom's funeral,
    and was notified via my cellphone of the outage. At least the outage
    wasn't more than that...so, with the icebox doors staying closed, the
    food shouldn't have been affected.

    My Mother will freeze banana slices, grapes (removed from the stem) and BM>nibble on the frozen fruits. Suppose could do the same for watermelon, BM>strawberries, and other fruits, just cut into bite-size pieces. (For me BM>the frozen fruit is OK but I prefer mine chilled or room temperature.)

    I think I'd like the chilled variety better as well.

    Daryl

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Sat Aug 24 11:51:00 2019

    Hi Daryl!

    I would've been, had I still not had any. But, they are
    hereditary, and once you've had one, you're subject to having
    more.
    'Hereditary' or 'genetic'? Agree if had once will more than likely have
    them again.
    Not sure which was the better choice of words. But, with my
    mind spinning faster than an EF-5 tornado the last 2 weeks, in
    the aftermath of my urinary bladder stone surgery, plus my Mom's
    death and funeral, I'm surprised I know which was is up anymore.

    Opposite direction things fall! <g>


    I'm in the phase currently of coffee in the morning and then iced water
    the rest of the day. Pretty much my base routine. Winter I'll add hot
    tea - last winter was usually green tea but have had regular and
    flavoured teas. Past years have added some flavourings to my water:
    plop in a tea bag (green or flavoured), dash of lemon juice. I haven't
    looked for flavoured waters.
    I never acquired a taste for coffee. I used to drink ice tea
    and Gatorade by the bucketful. When I see the urologist in a
    surgery followup next week, I'm going to try to find out what I
    can eat and drink that won't give me problems. I really don't
    want to take Lasix every day...because that means I have to pee
    every 5 minutes.

    I'd be interested to find out too, though admittedly probably not
    changing too much. Also depends on the composition of the stone -- mine
    are calcium oxylate.

    As for coffee, my start was because of a mistake my Mother made. Early evening she'd make instant coffee for herself and Dad, and tea for me.
    We each had our own distinctive mugs. One night Dad was doing
    paperwork, so would have his coffee later, and somehow my Mother poured
    his mug and gave it to me. I knew immediately wan't tea -- "oh drink it anyway" type of comment and that's how I got started on coffee. (Not a
    mean comment, just more 'well going to drink coffee eventually so may as
    well get started'.)



    As the officer eyes suspiciously your 'water on the rocks'! (Water with
    ice.) Probably no potential issues with water intoxication, just
    something to be aware of with high intakes.
    Or, you're using actual rocks, which means you're stoned. <G>

    As long as those stones aren't from the bladder!!



    My Hy-Vee (regional grocery store) offers chunks/hunks of watermelon --
    half, quarters, smaller. Also offers larger plastic cups (pints,
    quarts) of bite-sized mixed summer fruits.
    I need to look for that the next time I'm grocery shopping. We
    had a 1 hour power outage here earlier today (I wasn't here at
    the time...I was at a local restaurant for the "mourners meal"
    after my Mom's funeral, and was notified via my cellphone of the
    outage. At least the outage wasn't more than that...so, with the
    icebox doors staying closed, the food shouldn't have been
    affected.

    Yes, I've attended post-funeral luncheons. Haven't heard it called a "mourner's meal" but makes sense.

    The fruit cups might be a good change of pace for breakfast or lunch.
    I'd probably get a large one and eat a portion as opposed to the snack-
    sized options which are probably more expensive. ...Or 'splurge' on a
    small container of pineapple chunks and add that to the large container
    of fruit. :)



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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to BARRY MARTIN on Mon Aug 26 18:18:00 2019
    Hi Daryl!

    Hi, Barry,

    the aftermath of my urinary bladder stone surgery, plus my Mom's
    death and funeral, I'm surprised I know which was is up anymore.

    Opposite direction things fall! <g>

    The one thing that has fallen has been my pants...even with adding
    holes to the belt. Had I not been wearing Depends, it would've been
    "Full Moon Rising". <G>

    I'd be interested to find out too, though admittedly probably not BM>changing too much. Also depends on the composition of the stone -- mine BM>are calcium oxylate.

    From what I understand, here's a list of food and drink that have
    oxylates:

    Oxalate is a compound found in some foods, and it is also produced as a
    waste product by the body. It exits the body through the urine. Too much oxalate may cause kidney stones in some people.

    Foods high in oxalate include:

    Beans
    Beer
    Beets
    Berries
    Chocolate
    Coffee
    Cranberries
    Dark green vegetables, such as spinach
    Nuts
    Oranges
    Rhubarb
    Soda (cola)
    Soy beans
    Soy milk
    Spinach
    Sweet potatoes
    Tea (black)
    Tofu
    Wheat bran

    As for coffee, my start was because of a mistake my Mother made. Early BM>evening she'd make instant coffee for herself and Dad, and tea for me.
    We each had our own distinctive mugs. One night Dad was doing
    paperwork, so would have his coffee later, and somehow my Mother poured BM>his mug and gave it to me. I knew immediately wan't tea -- "oh drink it BM>anyway" type of comment and that's how I got started on coffee. (Not a BM>mean comment, just more 'well going to drink coffee eventually so may as BM>well get started'.)

    I like the smell of it brewing, but not the taste. A new Starbucks
    Coffee opened in west Little Rock recently, at the site of a former
    Dunkin' Donuts...but I'm not into expensive drinks. Ironically, the
    former Krispy Kreme Donuts place, just a block away, shut down as well. Shipley's is now the main donut store in the Little Rock area.

    Or, you're using actual rocks, which means you're stoned. <G>

    As long as those stones aren't from the bladder!!

    They can be. Some are stones that originated in the kidneys, and moved
    to the bladder...and others grew in the bladder.

    Yes, I've attended post-funeral luncheons. Haven't heard it called a BM>"mourner's meal" but makes sense.

    We didn't have one set up at the funeral home, but went to this area restaurant afterwards. I took my brother into consideration for a lot of
    the plans for that...as I do with all my friends, I consider their needs
    before mine.

    The fruit cups might be a good change of pace for breakfast or lunch.
    I'd probably get a large one and eat a portion as opposed to the snack- BM>sized options which are probably more expensive. ...Or 'splurge' on a BM>small container of pineapple chunks and add that to the large container BM>of fruit. :)

    I was told that's something I need to avoid. But, I've got a follow-up
    with him on Wednesday afternoon...so, I'm going to rack his brain.

    Daryl

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Wed Aug 28 09:05:00 2019

    Hi Daryl!

    the aftermath of my urinary bladder stone surgery, plus my Mom's
    death and funeral, I'm surprised I know which was is up anymore.
    Opposite direction things fall! <g>
    The one thing that has fallen has been my pants...even with
    adding holes to the belt. Had I not been wearing Depends, it
    would've been "Full Moon Rising". <G>

    I was thinking "Is That All There Is?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCRZZC-DH7M



    I'd be interested to find out too, though admittedly probably not
    changing too much. Also depends on the composition of the stone -- mine
    are calcium oxylate.

    From what I understand, here's a list of food and drink that
    have oxylates:

    Oxalate is a compound found in some foods, and it is also
    produced as a waste product by the body. It exits the body
    through the urine. Too much oxalate may cause kidney stones in
    some people.

    Foods high in oxalate include:

    Beans
    Beer
    Beets
    Berries
    Chocolate
    Coffee
    Cranberries
    Dark green vegetables, such as spinach
    Nuts
    Oranges
    Rhubarb
    Soda (cola)
    Soy beans
    Soy milk
    Spinach
    Sweet potatoes
    Tea (black)
    Tofu
    Wheat bran

    The problem as I see it is most of those items should be consumed as
    part of a healthy diet. The key phrase is "too much may cause". As I understood things when my urologist was discussing is to keep the
    calcium from combining with the oxylate (and a decrease of calcium is
    not only bad for bone reformation but has the opposite chemical effect),
    and give the oxylate something to combine with that is easier than
    calcium, namely one of the B vitamins )which right now I am unable to
    name). A high fluid intake also causes a flushing of the kidneys,
    giving the chemicla reaction less opportunity to occur.


    As for coffee, my start was because of a mistake my Mother made. Early
    evening she'd make instant coffee for herself and Dad, and tea for me.
    We each had our own distinctive mugs. One night Dad was doing
    paperwork, so would have his coffee later, and somehow my Mother poured
    his mug and gave it to me. I knew immediately wan't tea -- "oh drink it
    anyway" type of comment and that's how I got started on coffee. (Not a
    mean comment, just more 'well going to drink coffee eventually so may as
    well get started'.)
    I like the smell of it brewing, but not the taste. A new
    Starbucks Coffee opened in west Little Rock recently, at the site
    of a former Dunkin' Donuts...but I'm not into expensive drinks. Ironically, the former Krispy Kreme Donuts place, just a block
    away, shut down as well. Shipley's is now the main donut store in
    the Little Rock area.

    I haven't been to the local Starbucks -- nothing against them, just not
    in to expensive coffees and 'too much work' to go some place for coffee.
    Was at a Starbucks in Vienna last year: my cousin wanted to go.
    Suuuure: I'll go to one 5.000 miles away but not a quarter-mile!!

    Krispy Kreme also closed here some time ago. Big anticipation and
    initial opening, then fizzle. Pretty sure there is still a Dunkin
    Donuts locally. Again, just not some place I'd normally go.



    Yes, I've attended post-funeral luncheons. Haven't heard it called a
    "mourner's meal" but makes sense.
    We didn't have one set up at the funeral home, but went to this
    area restaurant afterwards. I took my brother into consideration
    for a lot of the plans for that...as I do with all my friends, I
    consider their needs before mine.

    I'd more consider their needs alongside mine. Some of their needs can
    'pull ahead' a little -- the vegetarian to a rib joint thing would not
    be nice but there's a chicken place locally and I'd make sure there were sufficient non-meat options before selecting.


    The fruit cups might be a good change of pace for breakfast or lunch.
    I'd probably get a large one and eat a portion as opposed to the snack-
    sized options which are probably more expensive. ...Or 'splurge' on a
    small container of pineapple chunks and add that to the large container
    of fruit. :)
    I was told that's something I need to avoid. But, I've got a
    follow-up with him on Wednesday afternoon...so, I'm going to rack
    his brain.

    Hmm: heard of 'rack of lamb'. <g> And sort of on the fruit thing, one
    dos have to watch not to eat too much fruit: fruits have lots of sugars.
    Fruit juices (containers of apple juice, grape juice, etc.) get
    processed to quickly and can cause blood sugar spiking. Eating the
    whole fruit is a better option. (Note we're also pointing out an
    isolated example -- drinking a glass of fruit juice with food is a
    different set.)


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