• moving or not

    From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Wed Aug 14 19:36:00 2019


    NANCY BACKUS wrote to DARYL STOUT <=-

    I could go for a nice banana split about now. However, I was told by
    a retired nurse that ice cream, iced tea, and related products, cause kidney stones. So, I may have to find something else to satisfy the
    sweet tooth (Lemon Oreo Cookies are not what I had in mind). As for a beverage, I drink flavored water.
    I suspect that, as with things like gallstones and reflux and
    IBS, there's a long list of potentially suspect things that may
    or not actually apply in your case.... I know well that that is
    the way it's worked for me as far as the first two of those....
    :) A lot of potentially problematic foods are perfectly fine for
    me, as it turned out.... :)

    Likewise for me. I have had calcium oxylate kidney stones sporadically
    form since I was since I was about 25, so over four decades. I will be
    fine (clear) for two, three, five years and then one forms, might stay
    the same size for year or two, and then grow again. No change in diet,
    so same amount of coffee, tea, chocolate, and all the other no-no's on
    the list. I do try to do all in moderation, though do do those
    occasional splurges.

    And I definitely not saying to disregard the advice of your personal physician/s. It's possible a strict diet would keep me from forming
    stones.



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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to BARRY MARTIN on Fri Aug 16 18:16:00 2019
    Nancy,

    Likewise for me. I have had calcium oxylate kidney stones sporadically BM>form since I was since I was about 25, so over four decades. I will be BM>fine (clear) for two, three, five years and then one forms, might stay BM>the same size for year or two, and then grow again. No change in diet, BM>so same amount of coffee, tea, chocolate, and all the other no-no's on BM>the list. I do try to do all in moderation, though do do those BM>occasional splurges.

    I went 4 1/2 years between stones...and didn't start having them until
    I was 50.

    And I definitely not saying to disregard the advice of your personal BM>physician/s. It's possible a strict diet would keep me from forming BM>stones.

    I'm increasing my fluid intake...of course, you know what that means
    for me several times a day. <G>

    Daryl

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Sat Aug 17 07:20:00 2019


    Hi Daryl!

    Likewise for me. I have had calcium oxylate kidney stones sporadically
    form since I was since I was about 25, so over four decades. I will be
    fine (clear) for two, three, five years and then one forms, might stay
    the same size for year or two, and then grow again. No change in diet,
    so same amount of coffee, tea, chocolate, and all the other no-no's on
    the list. I do try to do all in moderation, though do do those
    occasional splurges.
    I went 4 1/2 years between stones...and didn't start having
    them until I was 50.

    I'm not sure who's the winner here! <bseg>



    And I definitely not saying to disregard the advice of your personal
    physician/s. It's possible a strict diet would keep me from forming
    stones.
    I'm increasing my fluid intake...of course, you know what that
    means for me several times a day. <G>

    Umm, refilling the five gallon jug you're drinking from?! I do have a
    concern for drinking too much water -- just like everything too much is
    bad as is too little.

    Water intoxication - when you drink too much water

    Therefore, in order to avoid hyponatremia symptoms, you should not
    drink more than 27-33 ounces (0.8-1.0 liters) of water per hour, on
    average (14). Many reported cases of water intoxication result from
    drinking large amounts of water in a short period of time.

    https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/318619.php

    And:

    How do I know if I drank too much water?

    One sign of overhydration or water intoxication is a feeling of
    confusion or disorientation. This is linked to falling levels of
    electrolytes such as sodium in the body. If water intake continues to
    be excessive, symptoms can progress from mild confusion to delirium
    and seizures.

    https://www.insider.com/am-i-drinking-too-much-water-2018-11

    I don't think you're at a danger level but might be getting close; just
    copied in the above as things to be aware of. ...And you haven't
    mentioned it but water is in other items besides water: popsicles,
    fruits (watermelon!), etc.



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  • From Mike Powell@454:1/105 to BARRY MARTIN on Sun Aug 18 18:38:00 2019
    How do I know if I drank too much water?

    One sign of overhydration or water intoxication is a feeling of
    confusion or disorientation. This is linked to falling levels of
    electrolytes such as sodium in the body. If water intake continues to
    be excessive, symptoms can progress from mild confusion to delirium
    and seizures.

    https://www.insider.com/am-i-drinking-too-much-water-2018-11

    That is ironic considering that those symptoms are pretty much like those
    of dehydration, especially the confusion and disorientation. So it could
    be difficult to tell the difference between the two if you are not sure. :O

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  • From Ky Moffet@454:1/1 to Mike Powell on Sun Aug 18 18:56:00 2019
    MIKE POWELL wrote:
    How do I know if I drank too much water?

    One sign of overhydration or water intoxication is a feeling of
    confusion or disorientation. This is linked to falling levels of
    electrolytes such as sodium in the body. If water intake continues to
    be excessive, symptoms can progress from mild confusion to delirium
    and seizures.

    https://www.insider.com/am-i-drinking-too-much-water-2018-11

    That is ironic considering that those symptoms are pretty much like those
    of dehydration, especially the confusion and disorientation. So it could
    be difficult to tell the difference between the two if you are not sure. :O

    One major symptom of starting to get overhydrated is you drink and drink
    and you're still thirsty. Take a pinch of salt (and just enough water to
    wash it down) instead of that next glass of water, and suddenly you're
    not thirsty anymore.

    Also, the seasoning packets from ramen work really well as a source of electrolytes, especially if you've been overheated and have gotten a bit dehydrated -- then you don't absorb water effectively without also
    getting some salt, and preferably also some potassium.
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  • From Mike Powell@454:1/105 to KY MOFFET on Mon Aug 19 17:11:00 2019
    One major symptom of starting to get overhydrated is you drink and drink
    and you're still thirsty. Take a pinch of salt (and just enough water to
    wash it down) instead of that next glass of water, and suddenly you're
    not thirsty anymore.

    I have run into that a time or two. It usually means I am hungry instead,
    so maybe my body is wanting some of that salt. :)

    Also, the seasoning packets from ramen work really well as a source of electrolytes, especially if you've been overheated and have gotten a bit dehydrated -- then you don't absorb water effectively without also
    getting some salt, and preferably also some potassium.

    I have heard that re: ramen but have never tried it.

    Mike

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Mike Powell on Mon Aug 19 07:30:00 2019

    Hi Mike!

    How do I know if I drank too much water?
    One sign of overhydration or water intoxication is a feeling of
    confusion or disorientation. This is linked to falling levels of
    electrolytes such as sodium in the body. If water intake continues to
    be excessive, symptoms can progress from mild confusion to delirium
    and seizures.
    That is ironic considering that those symptoms are pretty much
    like those of dehydration, especially the confusion and
    disorientation. So it could be difficult to tell the difference
    between the two if you are not sure. :O

    Based on those two symptoms, probably difficult! As for why both
    extremes in water consumption exhibit similar two symptoms, probably has
    to do with the electrolyte concentrations - one too much and the other
    not enough for the nervous system to react properly.


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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Sat Oct 19 09:27:00 2019

    Hi Nancy!

    Likely enough... and the hot griddle could be the equivalent of a hot
    wok... Of course, the Chinese takeout places are pretty much fast
    food, too.... for ambiance you'd need to go to a sit-down place, and
    then you don't usually have the view of the kitchen area.... ;)
    Maybe the cooking area: chp-chp-chp-chp, toss egg into hat, creat
    onion volcano.... <gg> One takeout place with really good food was
    family run -- the children usually studying in a corner. ...An
    infrequent repeat customer and went to find the site empty.
    Guess they moved on... A lot of those places are family run... cuts
    down on the overhead, and provides a livelihood... And often very
    good food... :)
    Yes, fairly certain the whole family was involved one way or another,
    as you indicated not uncommon.
    We had a nice sit-down Chinese restaurant in our neighborhood at
    one time... the father was the chef, his mother watched the
    littlest ones, his wife was the hostess/waitress etc... as the
    little girls got old enough, they helped with the bussing tables,
    and the seating of customers... they moved on to (I think) NYC,
    and sold the place (and I think the recipes, too) to an Hispanic
    couple... never was the same after that, and we stopped going
    there...

    <snortle> I'm not trying to be stereotypical but the thought of a Spanish
    or Mexican family running a Chineese restaurant doesn't quite work.
    Even following the recipes as written there are techniques and
    'unwrittens' one would not be aware of. "A pinch of salt" -- a little
    between thumb and forefinger or more between the thumb and two fingers?
    As for the "not the same", when we ate out more often and so a higher
    repeat rate at specific restaurants we could tell when there was a
    different chef in the kitchen from the usual as the meal didn't taste
    quite the same.


    Our current favorite Japanese place is owned by the
    chef (he makes just about everything from scratch, from sushi to
    soups to dressings to appetizers to entrees to desserts), his
    wife helps in the kitchen, is the hostess/waitress etc, and keeps
    the books... their oldest son, now in college, is doing some of
    the help in the kitchen and some of the bussing and serving and
    seating... the younger two boys are just there, doing their
    homework and such.... :)

    Depending on how young the two boys might help at certain times -
    thinking "do you homework for 45 minutes and then help clean for 15",
    (You'd probably notice that schedule!) Or perhaps they helped when the restaurant was closed.



    <milk tasted like curdling in my mouth>
    (What a topic to follow restaurants!)

    avoid too much liquid milk: found I could have with cereal provided
    not too much (so approaching moisten the cereal in the bowl) and the
    cereal piece was the last item eaten as opposed to spooning milk.
    Very odd... and quite a shame.... like my apple allergy...
    Well AFAICT your apple allergy is worse. Simple to avoid a glass of
    milk or milk in cereal (order oatmeal!) but from earlier discussions apples show up everywhere in food and drinks.
    Well, that is true... more effort to avoid apples than to avoid
    milk... but as an avid milk drinker, I'd find that hard to take,
    too... ;0

    If you had that taste I had you'd avoid! <bg>


    Fortunately non-liquid milk was fine: I could eat cheese, sour cream,
    cottage cheese, yogurt with out any ill-taste.
    That was a good thing, at least... :)
    Yes. I'll admit to never being a 'milk drinker' where one pours
    oneself a nice cold refreshing glass of milk -- iced water was my preference even as a kid. OTOH could chow down on cheese, cottage
    cheese, sour cream, etc. (Yogurt really wasn't a thing back then - definitely a new favourite.)
    I enjoy milk in all its forms... :) And we generally have it
    with our meals at home... At restaurants, it's almost impossible
    to find whole milk offered, so we go for something else there...

    Yes, if you were regular regulars they might buy a quart of milk just
    for you two. Now that you mention it I don't recall seeing milk even
    listed in the beverage section of a lunch or dinner menu.


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    Though in "advanced Economics" they talk about how the $1 a tourist
    spends becomes $5 (or whatever amount) because the tourist gives the $1
    to the first vendor/shopkeeper, that person spends the $1 at Shop #2,
    that one spends at Shop #3....




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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Wed Oct 30 02:10:56 2019
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 19-Oct-2019 09:27 <=-

    We had a nice sit-down Chinese restaurant in our neighborhood at
    one time... the father was the chef, his mother watched the
    littlest ones, his wife was the hostess/waitress etc... as the
    little girls got old enough, they helped with the bussing tables,
    and the seating of customers... they moved on to (I think) NYC, and
    sold the place (and I think the recipes, too) to an Hispanic couple..
    never was the same after that, and we stopped going there...
    <snortle> I'm not trying to be stereotypical but the thought of a
    Spanish or Mexican family running a Chineese restaurant doesn't quite work. Even following the recipes as written there are techniques and 'unwrittens' one would not be aware of. "A pinch of salt" -- a little between thumb and forefinger or more between the thumb and two
    fingers?

    It could have worked, but as you say, chances were good that it wouldn't have.... they might have had the recipes, but didn't really understand
    the subtleties of Chinese cooking... ;) But I have a Chinese friend
    that can cook just about any ethnic cuisine, including Mexican/Spanish
    or even French, Italian or Greek.... :)

    As for the "not the same", when we ate out more often and so a
    higher repeat rate at specific restaurants we could tell when there was
    a different chef in the kitchen from the usual as the meal didn't taste quite the same.

    And sometimes that can be bad, other times good.... and sometimes just different.... ;)

    Our current favorite Japanese place is owned by the chef (he makes
    just about everything from scratch, from sushi to soups to dressings
    to appetizers to entrees to desserts), his wife helps in the kitchen,
    is the hostess/waitress etc, and keeps the books... their oldest son,
    now in college, is doing some of the help in the kitchen and some of
    the bussing and serving and seating... the younger two boys are just
    there, doing their homework and such.... :)
    Depending on how young the two boys might help at certain times -
    thinking "do you homework for 45 minutes and then help clean for 15", (You'd probably notice that schedule!) Or perhaps they helped when
    the restaurant was closed.

    Before things got as busy as they are now, the middle boy would sit at
    one of the tables, and happily read a book... ;) The youngest is still
    pretty young.... I think they now are doing their schoolwork and such in
    the kitchen where they are out of sight... or possibly are at their grandparents more....

    <milk tasted like curdling in my mouth>
    (What a topic to follow restaurants!)

    That's the way messages evolve.... or devolve.... <G>

    avoid too much liquid milk: found I could have with cereal provided
    not too much (so approaching moisten the cereal in the bowl) and the
    cereal piece was the last item eaten as opposed to spooning milk.
    Very odd... and quite a shame.... like my apple allergy...
    Well AFAICT your apple allergy is worse. Simple to avoid a glass of
    milk or milk in cereal (order oatmeal!) but from earlier discussions
    apples show up everywhere in food and drinks.
    Well, that is true... more effort to avoid apples than to avoid milk...
    but as an avid milk drinker, I'd find that hard to take, too... ;0
    If you had that taste I had you'd avoid! <bg>

    Maybe... or figure out some way to cover it up... ;)

    Fortunately non-liquid milk was fine: I could eat cheese, sour cream,
    cottage cheese, yogurt with out any ill-taste.
    That was a good thing, at least... :)
    Yes. I'll admit to never being a 'milk drinker' where one pours
    oneself a nice cold refreshing glass of milk -- iced water was my
    preference even as a kid. OTOH could chow down on cheese, cottage
    cheese, sour cream, etc. (Yogurt really wasn't a thing back then -
    definitely a new favourite.)
    I enjoy milk in all its forms... :) And we generally have it
    with our meals at home... At restaurants, it's almost impossible
    to find whole milk offered, so we go for something else there...
    Yes, if you were regular regulars they might buy a quart of milk just
    for you two. Now that you mention it I don't recall seeing milk even listed in the beverage section of a lunch or dinner menu.

    It generally is there, but most likely 2% or less.... at least at most American-type restaurants, such as diners, or at the chain restaurants...

    And some seem to be quite good at it, as well... ;) My strong
    point is in seeing good ones to grab... <G>
    I'm still waiting to see one from my collection! ...Oh. <bseg>
    Ah, did I have one of yours on that message... ;) I often try
    not to use taglines on messages to the person I snagged them
    from... but it does happen from time to time... ;)
    99% of my taglines have been snagged from others or extracted from
    various sources so if you gave me one of 'my' taglines it probably originated elsewhere.

    Like most of mine... :)

    ... Law of Basic Economics: you can only spend it once.
    Though in "advanced Economics" they talk about how the $1 a tourist
    spends becomes $5 (or whatever amount) because the tourist gives the
    $1 to the first vendor/shopkeeper, that person spends the $1 at Shop
    #2, that one spends at Shop #3....

    Ah, but still the first person can only spend it once.... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Wed Oct 30 09:50:00 2019

    Hi Nancy!

    We had a nice sit-down Chinese restaurant in our neighborhood at
    one time... the father was the chef, his mother watched the
    littlest ones, his wife was the hostess/waitress etc... as the
    little girls got old enough, they helped with the bussing tables,
    and the seating of customers... they moved on to (I think) NYC, and
    sold the place (and I think the recipes, too) to an Hispanic couple..
    never was the same after that, and we stopped going there...
    <snortle> I'm not trying to be stereotypical but the thought of a
    Spanish or Mexican family running a Chineese restaurant doesn't quite work. Even following the recipes as written there are techniques and 'unwrittens' one would not be aware of. "A pinch of salt" -- a little between thumb and forefinger or more between the thumb and two
    fingers?
    It could have worked, but as you say, chances were good that it
    wouldn't have.... they might have had the recipes, but didn't
    really understand the subtleties of Chinese cooking... ;) But I
    have a Chinese friend that can cook just about any ethnic
    cuisine, including Mexican/Spanish or even French, Italian or
    Greek.... :)

    Right. "Roll into a tube" doesn't say anything about how tightly, how
    long the tube is, etc. Quite sure the Hispanic couple watched the
    Chinese couple prepare the food, but the inevitable forgetting/mis-
    remembering of details: dough too thick for the amount of food and the
    flavour is off, or the dough shell has to be cooked longer and that
    means the stuffing is overcooked, etc.

    As for your friend, some people just have the knack. We watch Martha
    Stewart on Saturday noon because nothing else on at that time -- she has
    the occasional comment of adding a little water if needed because of the weather conditions -- sojust how does one know if the dough needs more
    water? Looked the same to me before. (One can't feel on TV.)



    As for the "not the same", when we ate out more often and so a
    higher repeat rate at specific restaurants we could tell when there was
    a different chef in the kitchen from the usual as the meal didn't taste quite the same.
    And sometimes that can be bad, other times good.... and sometimes
    just different.... ;)

    Right. Maybe we prefer what other customers don't. We tend not to be
    overly picky: a medium wil be accepted when ordered medium rare; if well
    done that will be rejected (and don't recall the last time that error occurred).


    Our current favorite Japanese place is owned by the chef (he makes
    just about everything from scratch, from sushi to soups to dressings
    to appetizers to entrees to desserts), his wife helps in the kitchen,
    is the hostess/waitress etc, and keeps the books... their oldest son,
    now in college, is doing some of the help in the kitchen and some of
    the bussing and serving and seating... the younger two boys are just
    there, doing their homework and such.... :)
    Depending on how young the two boys might help at certain times -
    thinking "do you homework for 45 minutes and then help clean for 15", (You'd probably notice that schedule!) Or perhaps they helped when
    the restaurant was closed.
    Before things got as busy as they are now, the middle boy would
    sit at one of the tables, and happily read a book... ;) The
    youngest is still pretty young.... I think they now are doing
    their schoolwork and such in the kitchen where they are out of
    sight... or possibly are at their grandparents more....

    Possibly, as long as the grandparents aren't in the back helping to cook!



    <milk tasted like curdling in my mouth>
    (What a topic to follow restaurants!)
    That's the way messages evolve.... or devolve.... <G>

    <chuckle>

    avoid too much liquid milk: found I could have with cereal provided
    not too much (so approaching moisten the cereal in the bowl) and the
    cereal piece was the last item eaten as opposed to spooning milk.
    Very odd... and quite a shame.... like my apple allergy...
    Well AFAICT your apple allergy is worse. Simple to avoid a glass of
    milk or milk in cereal (order oatmeal!) but from earlier discussions
    apples show up everywhere in food and drinks.
    Well, that is true... more effort to avoid apples than to avoid milk...
    but as an avid milk drinker, I'd find that hard to take, too... ;0
    If you had that taste I had you'd avoid! <bg>
    Maybe... or figure out some way to cover it up... ;)

    Well I also covered up a bit: I needed milk to do some cooking so had a
    quart of milk in the refrigerator; would periodically try to see if got
    rid of that nasty aftertaste; found if I didn't pour too much into my
    cereal so was still relatively dry (not soggy) and the last bite or two
    was cereal and not a spoonful of milk the taste was covered up.


    Fortunately non-liquid milk was fine: I could eat cheese, sour cream,
    cottage cheese, yogurt with out any ill-taste.
    That was a good thing, at least... :)
    Yes. I'll admit to never being a 'milk drinker' where one pours
    oneself a nice cold refreshing glass of milk -- iced water was my
    preference even as a kid. OTOH could chow down on cheese, cottage
    cheese, sour cream, etc. (Yogurt really wasn't a thing back then -
    definitely a new favourite.)
    I enjoy milk in all its forms... :) And we generally have it
    with our meals at home... At restaurants, it's almost impossible
    to find whole milk offered, so we go for something else there...
    Yes, if you were regular regulars they might buy a quart of milk just
    for you two. Now that you mention it I don't recall seeing milk even listed in the beverage section of a lunch or dinner menu.
    It generally is there, but most likely 2% or less.... at least at
    most American-type restaurants, such as diners, or at the chain restaurants...

    I'll try to remember, though when we eat out we generally don't do
    beverages other than water (with lemon), though sometimes something
    'exotic' which already have a hankerin' for and so order without
    referring to that section of the menu.


    And some seem to be quite good at it, as well... ;) My strong
    point is in seeing good ones to grab... <G>
    I'm still waiting to see one from my collection! ...Oh. <bseg>
    Ah, did I have one of yours on that message... ;) I often try
    not to use taglines on messages to the person I snagged them
    from... but it does happen from time to time... ;)
    99% of my taglines have been snagged from others or extracted from
    various sources so if you gave me one of 'my' taglines it probably originated elsewhere.
    Like most of mine... :)

    Right. I found the trouble with snagging that great tagline was
    everyone else has snagged it too, so not such a great catch.


    ... Law of Basic Economics: you can only spend it once.
    Though in "advanced Economics" they talk about how the $1 a tourist
    spends becomes $5 (or whatever amount) because the tourist gives the
    $1 to the first vendor/shopkeeper, that person spends the $1 at Shop
    #2, that one spends at Shop #3....
    Ah, but still the first person can only spend it once.... :)

    True. I'm more concerned with what I have and can spend than what
    everyone else can.


    ... A classic is a book that is praised but not read

    It looks good on the shelf!


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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Thu Nov 7 00:42:44 2019
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 30-Oct-2019 09:50 <=-

    <snortle> I'm not trying to be stereotypical but the thought of a
    Spanish or Mexican family running a Chineese restaurant doesn't quite
    work. Even following the recipes as written there are techniques and
    'unwrittens' one would not be aware of. "A pinch of salt" -- a little
    between thumb and forefinger or more between the thumb and two fingers?
    It could have worked, but as you say, chances were good that it
    wouldn't have.... they might have had the recipes, but didn't really
    understand the subtleties of Chinese cooking... ;)
    Right. "Roll into a tube" doesn't say anything about how tightly, how long the tube is, etc. Quite sure the Hispanic couple watched the
    Chinese couple prepare the food, but the inevitable forgetting/mis- remembering of details: dough too thick for the amount of food and the flavour is off, or the dough shell has to be cooked longer and that
    means the stuffing is overcooked, etc.

    Or the wok isn't heated hot enough, or enough oil (or the right kind)
    used....

    But I have a Chinese friend that can cook just about any ethnic
    cuisine, including Mexican/Spanish or even French, Italian or
    Greek.... :)
    As for your friend, some people just have the knack.

    He certainly does... :) he helped me make a steak and kidney pie at the Cooking Echo picnic... I was going on my remembering doing it years ago,
    he was going on remembered tastes from years ago... no recipes, but he
    does have years of doing all sorts of techniques, and used what was
    needed for our project... Came out very nicely... :)

    We watch Martha Stewart on Saturday noon because nothing else on at
    that time -- she has the occasional comment of adding a little water
    if needed because of the weather conditions -- so just how does one
    know if the dough needs more water? Looked the same to me before.
    (One can't feel on TV.)

    If that was in regards to baking bread.... I've done that... although
    more often, I've just added less flour...... when it's humid, you might
    need less water/more flour... when it's dry, the flour will absorb
    more.... I tend to add the last few cups of flour while I'm kneading the
    dough by hand, so I can feel how dry or wet the dough is as I'm doing
    it... :)

    As for the "not the same", when we ate out more often and so a
    higher repeat rate at specific restaurants we could tell when there was
    a different chef in the kitchen from the usual as the meal didn't taste
    quite the same.
    And sometimes that can be bad, other times good.... and sometimes just
    different.... ;)
    Right. Maybe we prefer what other customers don't. We tend not to be overly picky: a medium wil be accepted when ordered medium rare; if
    well done that will be rejected (and don't recall the last time that
    error occurred).

    For some things, I've become more picky over the years... how done a
    steak is is one of those things, especially when there's a blurb in the
    menu that describes what they are supposed to be supplying when you
    order a particular doneness... I'm happy with blood rare to medium
    rare... but if I order it rare, I expect it to be no more than medium
    rare... and I will send it back if it's medium or worse... The steaks
    are usually pricy enough that they really should be doing things
    right... and I don't feel right spending that kind of money for
    something I have to choke down because they cooked it wrong...

    Depending on how young the two boys might help at certain times -
    thinking "do you homework for 45 minutes and then help clean for 15",
    (You'd probably notice that schedule!) Or perhaps they helped when
    the restaurant was closed.
    Before things got as busy as they are now, the middle boy would sit
    at one of the tables, and happily read a book... ;) The youngest is
    still pretty young.... I think they now are doing their schoolwork
    and such in the kitchen where they are out of sight... or possibly
    are at their grandparents more....
    Possibly, as long as the grandparents aren't in the back helping to
    cook!

    Pretty sure they aren't... :)

    Well AFAICT your apple allergy is worse. Simple to avoid a glass of
    milk or milk in cereal (order oatmeal!) but from earlier discussions
    apples show up everywhere in food and drinks.
    Well, that is true... more effort to avoid apples than to avoid milk...
    but as an avid milk drinker, I'd find that hard to take, too... ;0
    If you had that taste I had you'd avoid! <bg>
    Maybe... or figure out some way to cover it up... ;)
    Well I also covered up a bit: I needed milk to do some cooking so had
    a quart of milk in the refrigerator; would periodically try to see if
    got rid of that nasty aftertaste; found if I didn't pour too much into
    my cereal so was still relatively dry (not soggy) and the last bite or
    two was cereal and not a spoonful of milk the taste was covered up.

    I'd probably mix in chocolate, or molasses... ;)

    I enjoy milk in all its forms... :) And we generally have it
    with our meals at home... At restaurants, it's almost impossible
    to find whole milk offered, so we go for something else there...
    Yes, if you were regular regulars they might buy a quart of milk just
    for you two. Now that you mention it I don't recall seeing milk even
    listed in the beverage section of a lunch or dinner menu.
    It generally is there, but most likely 2% or less.... at least at most
    American-type restaurants, such as diners, or at chain restaurants...
    I'll try to remember, though when we eat out we generally don't do beverages other than water (with lemon), though sometimes something 'exotic' which already have a hankerin' for and so order without
    referring to that section of the menu.

    Many of them do carry chocolate milk, but that is generally lowfat as
    well... I'm more likely to order water with lemon now also... unless I
    find out that they do carry whole milk... :)

    I often try not to use taglines on messages to the person I snagged
    them from... but it does happen from time to time... ;)
    99% of my taglines have been snagged from others or extracted from
    various sources so if you gave me one of 'my' taglines it probably
    originated elsewhere.
    Like most of mine... :)
    Right. I found the trouble with snagging that great tagline was
    everyone else has snagged it too, so not such a great catch.

    It might not have been seen in some other echo, though... ;)

    ... Law of Basic Economics: you can only spend it once.
    Though in "advanced Economics" they talk about how the $1 a tourist
    spends becomes $5 (or whatever amount) because the tourist gives the
    $1 to the first vendor/shopkeeper, that person spends the $1 at Shop
    #2, that one spends at Shop #3....
    Ah, but still the first person can only spend it once.... :)
    True. I'm more concerned with what I have and can spend than what
    everyone else can.

    Likewise... :)

    ... A classic is a book that is praised but not read
    It looks good on the shelf!

    Which is how some companies earn their money... selling books that look
    good on the shelf, so people can pretend that they are reading all these
    good books... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Thu Nov 7 13:55:00 2019

    Hi Nancy!

    <snortle> I'm not trying to be stereotypical but the thought of a
    Spanish or Mexican family running a Chineese restaurant doesn't quite
    work. Even following the recipes as written there are techniques and
    'unwrittens' one would not be aware of. "A pinch of salt" -- a little
    between thumb and forefinger or more between the thumb and two fingers?
    It could have worked, but as you say, chances were good that it
    wouldn't have.... they might have had the recipes, but didn't really
    understand the subtleties of Chinese cooking... ;)
    Right. "Roll into a tube" doesn't say anything about how tightly, how long the tube is, etc. Quite sure the Hispanic couple watched the
    Chinese couple prepare the food, but the inevitable forgetting/mis- remembering of details: dough too thick for the amount of food and the flavour is off, or the dough shell has to be cooked longer and that
    means the stuffing is overcooked, etc.
    Or the wok isn't heated hot enough, or enough oil (or the right
    kind) used....

    All sorts of details to go wrong. And te various chefs and cooks just
    do things slightly differently, even with standardized chain restaurant cooking. "Squirt grill with canola oil." OK. One chef will give a
    healthy squirrrrt while another will do an anemic (squirt) -- that
    detail will alter the outcome.


    But I have a Chinese friend that can cook just about any ethnic
    cuisine, including Mexican/Spanish or even French, Italian or
    Greek.... :)
    As for your friend, some people just have the knack.
    He certainly does... :) he helped me make a steak and kidney pie
    at the Cooking Echo picnic... I was going on my remembering doing
    it years ago, he was going on remembered tastes from years ago...
    no recipes, but he does have years of doing all sorts of
    techniques, and used what was needed for our project... Came out
    very nicely... :)

    Good. And yes, makes sense to use an established recipe (even from
    memory), but then need to tweak for the subtle differences. Maybe the tomatoes are a bit more tart than usual, or green pepper not as mature
    and hlding in its flavour. Compensate with a pinch of this, a sprinkle
    of that, all determined by taste. ...And how one can taste and just
    know the right seasoning to add is beyond me .


    We watch Martha Stewart on Saturday noon because nothing else on at
    that time -- she has the occasional comment of adding a little water
    if needed because of the weather conditions -- so just how does one
    know if the dough needs more water? Looked the same to me before.
    (One can't feel on TV.)
    If that was in regards to baking bread.... I've done that...
    although more often, I've just added less flour...... when it's
    humid, you might need less water/more flour... when it's dry, the
    flour will absorb more.... I tend to add the last few cups of
    flour while I'm kneading the dough by hand, so I can feel how dry
    or wet the dough is as I'm doing it... :)

    We go "dunno - that's what the Toothpick Test is for near the end of
    baking. Dough sticking to the toothpick, leave in a little longer!
    (Not saying we don't adjust while mixing, just not as good at it.)



    As for the "not the same", when we ate out more often and so a
    higher repeat rate at specific restaurants we could tell when there was
    a different chef in the kitchen from the usual as the meal didn't taste
    quite the same.
    And sometimes that can be bad, other times good.... and sometimes just
    different.... ;)
    Right. Maybe we prefer what other customers don't. We tend not to be overly picky: a medium wil be accepted when ordered medium rare; if
    well done that will be rejected (and don't recall the last time that
    error occurred).
    For some things, I've become more picky over the years... how
    done a steak is is one of those things, especially when there's a
    blurb in the menu that describes what they are supposed to be
    supplying when you order a particular doneness... I'm happy with
    blood rare to medium rare... but if I order it rare, I expect it
    to be no more than medium rare... and I will send it back if it's
    medium or worse... The steaks are usually pricy enough that they
    really should be doing things right... and I don't feel right
    spending that kind of money for something I have to choke down
    because they cooked it wrong...

    Agree. With us prefer rare but not gpoing to make a fuse if
    medium-rare. Medium will be accepted but there's a comment made.
    Anything over medium is being sent back.


    Well AFAICT your apple allergy is worse. Simple to avoid a glass of
    milk or milk in cereal (order oatmeal!) but from earlier discussions
    apples show up everywhere in food and drinks.
    Well, that is true... more effort to avoid apples than to avoid milk...
    but as an avid milk drinker, I'd find that hard to take, too... ;0
    If you had that taste I had you'd avoid! <bg>
    Maybe... or figure out some way to cover it up... ;)
    Well I also covered up a bit: I needed milk to do some cooking so had
    a quart of milk in the refrigerator; would periodically try to see if
    got rid of that nasty aftertaste; found if I didn't pour too much into
    my cereal so was still relatively dry (not soggy) and the last bite or
    two was cereal and not a spoonful of milk the taste was covered up.
    I'd probably mix in chocolate, or molasses... ;)

    I hadn't thought of those!


    I enjoy milk in all its forms... :) And we generally have it
    with our meals at home... At restaurants, it's almost impossible
    to find whole milk offered, so we go for something else there...
    Yes, if you were regular regulars they might buy a quart of milk just
    for you two. Now that you mention it I don't recall seeing milk even
    listed in the beverage section of a lunch or dinner menu.
    It generally is there, but most likely 2% or less.... at least at most
    American-type restaurants, such as diners, or at chain restaurants...
    I'll try to remember, though when we eat out we generally don't do beverages other than water (with lemon), though sometimes something 'exotic' which already have a hankerin' for and so order without
    referring to that section of the menu.
    Many of them do carry chocolate milk, but that is generally
    lowfat as well... I'm more likely to order water with lemon now
    also... unless I find out that they do carry whole milk... :)

    Argh! Went out for a birthday lunch the other day (not mine) and didn't
    look at the beverage options. ...OK, checked online and they do offer
    1% milk.


    I often try not to use taglines on messages to the person I snagged
    them from... but it does happen from time to time... ;)
    99% of my taglines have been snagged from others or extracted from
    various sources so if you gave me one of 'my' taglines it probably
    originated elsewhere.
    Like most of mine... :)
    Right. I found the trouble with snagging that great tagline was
    everyone else has snagged it too, so not such a great catch.
    It might not have been seen in some other echo, though... ;)

    True. I more or less figure if I like the tagline to snag it, If it's
    out there it probably has been seen. A tagline is more of a decoration
    than the main item.


    ... A classic is a book that is praised but not read
    It looks good on the shelf!
    Which is how some companies earn their money... selling books
    that look good on the shelf, so people can pretend that they are
    reading all these good books... :)

    Or the Readers Digest Condensed Books series!


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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Tue Nov 12 19:31:42 2019
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 07-Nov-2019 13:55 <=-

    Quite sure the Hispanic couple watched the
    Chinese couple prepare the food, but the inevitable forgetting/mis-
    remembering of details: dough too thick for the amount of food and the
    flavour is off, or the dough shell has to be cooked longer and that
    means the stuffing is overcooked, etc.
    Or the wok isn't heated hot enough, or enough oil (or the right kind)
    used....
    All sorts of details to go wrong. And the various chefs and cooks just
    do things slightly differently, even with standardized chain
    restaurant cooking. "Squirt grill with canola oil." OK. One chef
    will give a healthy squirrrrt while another will do an anemic (squirt)
    -- that detail will alter the outcome.

    Indeed. :)

    But I have a Chinese friend that can cook just about any ethnic
    cuisine, including Mexican/Spanish or even French, Italian or
    Greek.... :)
    As for your friend, some people just have the knack.
    He certainly does... :) he helped me make a steak and kidney pie at
    the Cooking Echo picnic... I was going on my remembering doing it
    years ago, he was going on remembered tastes from years ago... no
    recipes, but he does have years of doing all sorts of techniques, and
    used what was needed for our project... Came out very nicely... :)
    Good. And yes, makes sense to use an established recipe (even from memory), but then need to tweak for the subtle differences. Maybe the tomatoes are a bit more tart than usual, or green pepper not as mature
    and holding in its flavour. Compensate with a pinch of this, a
    sprinkle of that, all determined by taste. ...And how one can taste
    and just know the right seasoning to add is beyond me .

    It's what sets apart the real cooks from the likes of you and me.... ;)

    We watch Martha Stewart on Saturday noon because nothing else on at
    that time -- she has the occasional comment of adding a little water
    if needed because of the weather conditions -- so just how does one
    know if the dough needs more water? Looked the same to me before.
    (One can't feel on TV.)
    If that was in regards to baking bread.... I've done that...
    although more often, I've just added less flour...... when it's humid,
    you might need less water/more flour... when it's dry, the flour will
    absorb more.... I tend to add the last few cups of flour while I'm
    kneading the dough by hand, so I can feel how dry or wet the dough
    is as I'm doing it... :)
    We go "dunno - that's what the Toothpick Test is for near the end of baking. Dough sticking to the toothpick, leave in a little longer!
    (Not saying we don't adjust while mixing, just not as good at it.)

    A lot of it comes from experience.... and some things, the toothpick
    test is really the only way to test... :)

    Right. Maybe we prefer what other customers don't. We tend not to be
    overly picky: a medium wil be accepted when ordered medium rare; if
    well done that will be rejected (and don't recall the last time that
    error occurred).
    For some things, I've become more picky over the years... how done
    a steak is is one of those things, especially when there's a blurb in
    the menu that describes what they are supposed to be supplying when
    you order a particular doneness... I'm happy with blood rare to
    medium rare... but if I order it rare, I expect it to be no more than
    medium rare... and I will send it back if it's medium or worse... The
    steaks are usually pricy enough that they really should be doing
    things right... and I don't feel right spending that kind of money
    for something I have to choke down because they cooked it wrong...
    Agree. With us prefer rare but not going to make a fuss if
    medium-rare. Medium will be accepted but there's a comment made.
    Anything over medium is being sent back.

    Not that long ago, our 4th Sunday group went to a place that sold
    steaks.... I think the cooks must have been asleep on the job, or
    something, as at least three of us had our meat come much more done than
    asked for... Mine was the first discovered, and I did have them re-do it (second time was at least acceptable)... Then Richard found that his
    hamburger was quite overdone, but told them that he'd just eat it...
    They ended up comping his entire meal... The third person had waited to
    even start her steak until later in the meal, and then discovered that
    it was overdone... she also had them re-make it (I thought she should
    have at least checked a lot earlier in the meal, actually)... I suspect
    that that might have played a part in the restaurant's decision to comp Richard's meal... :)

    Well AFAICT your apple allergy is worse. Simple to avoid a glass of
    milk or milk in cereal (order oatmeal!) but from earlier discussions
    apples show up everywhere in food and drinks.
    Well, that is true... more effort to avoid apples than to avoid milk...
    but as an avid milk drinker, I'd find that hard to take, too... ;0
    If you had that taste I had you'd avoid! <bg>
    Maybe... or figure out some way to cover it up... ;)
    Well I also covered up a bit: I needed milk to do some cooking so had
    a quart of milk in the refrigerator; would periodically try to see if
    got rid of that nasty aftertaste; found if I didn't pour too much into
    my cereal so was still relatively dry (not soggy) and the last bite or
    two was cereal and not a spoonful of milk the taste was covered up.
    I'd probably mix in chocolate, or molasses... ;)
    I hadn't thought of those!

    When I was back in grade school and we got the school milk in those
    little cartons, the white milk often tasted a little off, so I got in
    the habit of just ordering the chocolate milk... So, later, I'd add
    chocolate if the milk was starting to taste like it was about to turn...
    I came across molasses milk later, as a way to make a fortifying
    drink... as it is quite tasty, I added to my bag of tricks for covering
    up an off-taste in the milk... ;)

    Now that you mention it I don't recall seeing milk even
    listed in the beverage section of a lunch or dinner menu.
    It generally is there, but most likely 2% or less.... at least at most
    American-type restaurants, such as diners, or at chain restaurants...
    I'll try to remember, though when we eat out we generally don't do
    beverages other than water (with lemon), though sometimes something
    'exotic' which already have a hankerin' for and so order without
    referring to that section of the menu.
    Many of them do carry chocolate milk, but that is generally lowfat as
    well... I'm more likely to order water with lemon now also... unless
    I find out that they do carry whole milk... :)
    Argh! Went out for a birthday lunch the other day (not mine) and
    didn't look at the beverage options. ...OK, checked online and they do offer 1% milk.

    As I'd expect... not that we consider that really milk... ;)

    99% of my taglines have been snagged from others or extracted from
    various sources so if you gave me one of 'my' taglines it probably
    originated elsewhere.
    Like most of mine... :)
    Right. I found the trouble with snagging that great tagline was
    everyone else has snagged it too, so not such a great catch.
    It might not have been seen in some other echo, though... ;)
    True. I more or less figure if I like the tagline to snag it, If
    it's out there it probably has been seen. A tagline is more of a decoration than the main item.

    True, that last.... ;) We do have someone in the COOKING echo that
    tends to produce new ones, or rework old ones to make them new... A lot
    of his have ended up in my file... ;)

    ttyl neb

    ... Everyone is of some use, if only to set a bad example.

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Wed Nov 13 11:08:00 2019

    Hi Nancy!

    Quite sure the Hispanic couple watched the
    Chinese couple prepare the food, but the inevitable forgetting/mis-
    remembering of details: dough too thick for the amount of food and the
    flavour is off, or the dough shell has to be cooked longer and that
    means the stuffing is overcooked, etc.
    Or the wok isn't heated hot enough, or enough oil (or the right kind)
    used....
    All sorts of details to go wrong. And the various chefs and cooks just
    do things slightly differently, even with standardized chain
    restaurant cooking. "Squirt grill with canola oil." OK. One chef
    will give a healthy squirrrrt while another will do an anemic (squirt)
    -- that detail will alter the outcome.
    Indeed. :)

    Oils and fats do make a difference on the flavour, though usually a
    reduction in flavour accomanying a reduction in calories.


    But I have a Chinese friend that can cook just about any ethnic
    cuisine, including Mexican/Spanish or even French, Italian or
    Greek.... :)
    As for your friend, some people just have the knack.
    He certainly does... :) he helped me make a steak and kidney pie at
    the Cooking Echo picnic... I was going on my remembering doing it
    years ago, he was going on remembered tastes from years ago... no
    recipes, but he does have years of doing all sorts of techniques, and
    used what was needed for our project... Came out very nicely... :)
    Good. And yes, makes sense to use an established recipe (even from memory), but then need to tweak for the subtle differences. Maybe the tomatoes are a bit more tart than usual, or green pepper not as mature
    and holding in its flavour. Compensate with a pinch of this, a
    sprinkle of that, all determined by taste. ...And how one can taste
    and just know the right seasoning to add is beyond me .
    It's what sets apart the real cooks from the likes of you and
    me.... ;)

    <loud chuckle!> So what's wrong with a few fish sticks in the microwave
    for two minutes?! (I'll do that if just for me at lunch; if dinner for
    the two of us baked in the oven or pan-fried stovetop.)


    We watch Martha Stewart on Saturday noon because nothing else on at
    that time -- she has the occasional comment of adding a little water
    if needed because of the weather conditions -- so just how does one
    know if the dough needs more water? Looked the same to me before.
    (One can't feel on TV.)
    If that was in regards to baking bread.... I've done that...
    although more often, I've just added less flour...... when it's humid,
    you might need less water/more flour... when it's dry, the flour will
    absorb more.... I tend to add the last few cups of flour while I'm
    kneading the dough by hand, so I can feel how dry or wet the dough
    is as I'm doing it... :)
    We go "dunno - that's what the Toothpick Test is for near the end of baking. Dough sticking to the toothpick, leave in a little longer!
    (Not saying we don't adjust while mixing, just not as good at it.)
    A lot of it comes from experience.... and some things, the
    toothpick test is really the only way to test... :)

    Though sometimes get fancy and use a bamboo skewer <studio audience
    oooow's>. Experience is a key. And time and effort. 'Ordinary meals'
    I/we don't spend a lot of time and effort at -- decent. And that sounds
    worse than it is; not like the school lunch at the cafeteria line where
    the glop of mystery meat is plopped on to the tray. Sure, sometimes
    'quick and easy' but tastes good and has presentation. (Why do I feel
    like I'm digging my hole deeper?)



    Agree. With us prefer rare but not going to make a fuss if
    medium-rare. Medium will be accepted but there's a comment made.
    Anything over medium is being sent back.
    Not that long ago, our 4th Sunday group went to a place that sold steaks.... I think the cooks must have been asleep on the job, or something, as at least three of us had our meat come much more
    done than asked for... Mine was the first discovered, and I did
    have them re-do it (second time was at least acceptable)... Then
    Richard found that his hamburger was quite overdone, but told
    them that he'd just eat it... They ended up comping his entire
    meal... The third person had waited to even start her steak until
    later in the meal, and then discovered that it was overdone...
    she also had them re-make it (I thought she should have at least
    checked a lot earlier in the meal, actually)... I suspect that
    that might have played a part in the restaurant's decision to
    comp Richard's meal... :)

    Something's not right in the kitchen! And yes, if there were problems
    noted early in the meal I probably would have checked my meal to see if
    it eas OK even though I was not ready to start eating.

    To me eating an overdone hamburger is not as bad taste-wise as an
    overdone steak. Nice they comp'd The Wizard's meal; I'm thinking $5 or
    $10 just for the hamburger would have been sufficient, but maybe they
    (the restaurant) can't do dollar-off, or fractions of a meal. (My
    working retail experience was more dress missing belt, $5 off type of
    thing.)



    Well AFAICT your apple allergy is worse. Simple to avoid a glass of
    milk or milk in cereal (order oatmeal!) but from earlier discussions
    apples show up everywhere in food and drinks.
    Well, that is true... more effort to avoid apples than to avoid
    milk... NB>>>> but as an avid milk drinker, I'd find that hard to
    take, too... ;0 BM>>> If you had that taste I had you'd avoid!

    Maybe... or figure out some way to cover it up... ;)
    Well I also covered up a bit: I needed milk to do some cooking so had
    a quart of milk in the refrigerator; would periodically try to see if
    got rid of that nasty aftertaste; found if I didn't pour too much into
    my cereal so was still relatively dry (not soggy) and the last bite or
    two was cereal and not a spoonful of milk the taste was covered up.
    I'd probably mix in chocolate, or molasses... ;)
    I hadn't thought of those!
    When I was back in grade school and we got the school milk in
    those little cartons, the white milk often tasted a little off,
    so I got in the habit of just ordering the chocolate milk... So,
    later, I'd add chocolate if the milk was starting to taste like
    it was about to turn... I came across molasses milk later, as a
    way to make a fortifying drink... as it is quite tasty, I added
    to my bag of tricks for covering up an off-taste in the milk...
    ;)

    You sure you don't have that curdle flavour like I did?! I have smelt / tasted where the milk is about to turn bad. Still good to consume, just
    want to soon. LIS, haven't heard of molasses milk though does sound
    worth a try. I haven't seen coffee nor strawberry flavoured milk out
    here (Midwest) though used to be available in New England, or at least
    prior to moving out here in 1975. Not talking the powdered mix, but
    rather flavoured milks in cartons.


    Now that you mention it I don't recall seeing milk even
    listed in the beverage section of a lunch or dinner menu.
    It generally is there, but most likely 2% or less.... at least at most
    American-type restaurants, such as diners, or at chain restaurants...
    I'll try to remember, though when we eat out we generally don't do
    beverages other than water (with lemon), though sometimes something
    'exotic' which already have a hankerin' for and so order without
    referring to that section of the menu.
    Many of them do carry chocolate milk, but that is generally lowfat as
    well... I'm more likely to order water with lemon now also... unless
    I find out that they do carry whole milk... :)
    Argh! Went out for a birthday lunch the other day (not mine) and
    didn't look at the beverage options. ...OK, checked online and they do offer 1% milk.
    As I'd expect... not that we consider that really milk... ;)

    Just barely!


    99% of my taglines have been snagged from others or extracted from
    various sources so if you gave me one of 'my' taglines it probably
    originated elsewhere.
    Like most of mine... :)
    Right. I found the trouble with snagging that great tagline was
    everyone else has snagged it too, so not such a great catch.
    It might not have been seen in some other echo, though... ;)
    True. I more or less figure if I like the tagline to snag it, If
    it's out there it probably has been seen. A tagline is more of a decoration than the main item.
    True, that last.... ;) We do have someone in the COOKING echo
    that tends to produce new ones, or rework old ones to make them
    new... A lot of his have ended up in my file... ;)

    I'll have to see about selecting the one about roast beef. <g>


    ... Everyone is of some use, if only to set a bad example.

    Yup; think I use a similar one in the previous message. I've gotten
    some interesting responses with a live use of 'everyone brings happiness
    to this room; some be coming, some by leaving'. <g> (One does have to
    say that judiciously!)



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    @Q.COM



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    A: Anyone can roast beef.
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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Tue Nov 26 16:45:28 2019
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 13-Nov-2019 11:08 <=-

    All sorts of details to go wrong. And the various chefs and cooks just
    do things slightly differently, even with standardized chain
    restaurant cooking. "Squirt grill with canola oil." OK. One chef
    will give a healthy squirrrrt while another will do an anemic (squirt)
    -- that detail will alter the outcome.
    Indeed. :)
    Oils and fats do make a difference on the flavour, though usually a reduction in flavour accompanying a reduction in calories.

    Yup... fat generally carries the flavor... :) One could do better to
    drop out some of added sugars to reduce calories... ;)

    As for your friend, some people just have the knack.
    He certainly does... :) he helped me make a steak and kidney pie at
    the Cooking Echo picnic... I was going on my remembering doing it
    years ago, he was going on remembered tastes from years ago... no
    recipes, but he does have years of doing all sorts of techniques, and
    used what was needed for our project... Came out very nicely... :)
    Good. And yes, makes sense to use an established recipe (even from
    memory), but then need to tweak for the subtle differences. Maybe the
    tomatoes are a bit more tart than usual, or green pepper not as mature
    and holding in its flavour. Compensate with a pinch of this, a
    sprinkle of that, all determined by taste. ...And how one can taste
    and just know the right seasoning to add is beyond me .
    It's what sets apart the real cooks from the likes of you and me... ;)
    <loud chuckle!> So what's wrong with a few fish sticks in the
    microwave for two minutes?! (I'll do that if just for me at lunch; if dinner for the two of us baked in the oven or pan-fried stovetop.)

    Simple can be just as rewarding... especially when the main reward is
    having something to eat... ;) And I'll leave the fancy and the reward
    is in the production type meals to those who are more proficient at
    them... ;)

    We go "dunno - that's what the Toothpick Test is for near the end of
    baking. Dough sticking to the toothpick, leave in a little longer!
    (Not saying we don't adjust while mixing, just not as good at it.)
    A lot of it comes from experience.... and some things, the toothpick
    test is really the only way to test... :)
    Though sometimes get fancy and use a bamboo skewer <studio audience oooow's>. Experience is a key. And time and effort. 'Ordinary
    meals' I/we don't spend a lot of time and effort at -- decent. And
    that sounds worse than it is; not like the school lunch at the
    cafeteria line where the glop of mystery meat is plopped on to the
    tray. Sure, sometimes 'quick and easy' but tastes good and has presentation. (Why do I feel like I'm digging my hole deeper?)

    Not to worry.... even my very talented friend cooks 'quick and easy' as
    well, from time to time....

    Agree. With us prefer rare but not going to make a fuss if
    medium-rare. Medium will be accepted but there's a comment made.
    Anything over medium is being sent back.
    Not that long ago, our 4th Sunday group went to a place that sold
    steaks.... I think the cooks must have been asleep on the job, or
    something, as at least three of us had our meat come much more done
    than asked for... Mine was the first discovered, and I did have them
    re-do it (second time was at least acceptable)... Then Richard found
    that his hamburger was quite overdone, but told them that he'd just
    eat it... They ended up comping his entire meal... The third person
    had waited to even start her steak until later in the meal, and then
    discovered that it was overdone... she also had them re-make it (I
    thought she should have at least checked a lot earlier in the meal,
    actually)... I suspect that that might have played a part in they
    restaurant's decision to comp Richard's meal... :)
    Something's not right in the kitchen! And yes, if there were problems noted early in the meal I probably would have checked my meal to see
    if it eas OK even though I was not ready to start eating.

    Since mine is likely to not pass muster, I do try to always check mine
    as it is delivered, just in case...

    To me eating an overdone hamburger is not as bad taste-wise as an
    overdone steak. Nice they comp'd The Wizard's meal; I'm thinking $5
    or $10 just for the hamburger would have been sufficient, but maybe
    they (the restaurant) can't do dollar-off, or fractions of a meal. (My working retail experience was more dress missing belt, $5 off type of thing.)

    Most restaurants would be more likely to just comp the part of the meal
    that was defective... we were quite surprised to have his entire meal comp'ed... I'm sure they could do dollar-off, though, as they regularly
    have coupons for dollar-off as well as percentage-off.... :)

    but as an avid milk drinker, I'd find that hard to take, too...
    If you had that taste I had you'd avoid! <bg>
    Maybe... or figure out some way to cover it up... ;)
    Well I also covered up a bit: I needed milk to do some cooking so had
    a quart of milk in the refrigerator; would periodically try to see if
    got rid of that nasty aftertaste; found if I didn't pour too much into
    my cereal so was still relatively dry (not soggy) and the last bite or
    two was cereal and not a spoonful of milk the taste was covered up.
    I'd probably mix in chocolate, or molasses... ;)
    I hadn't thought of those!
    When I was back in grade school and we got the school milk in those
    little cartons, the white milk often tasted a little off, so I got
    in the habit of just ordering the chocolate milk... So, later, I'd
    add chocolate if the milk was starting to taste like it was about to
    turn... I came across molasses milk later, as a way to make a
    fortifying drink... as it is quite tasty, I added to my bag of tricks
    for covering up an off-taste in the milk... ;)
    You sure you don't have that curdle flavour like I did?!

    Pretty sure.... I do taste when milk picks up odd tastes, like from the
    waxed cardboard carton, or a plastic taste from the jug, when the milk
    hasn't been taken proper care of at the store.... And the added coconut
    oil to the 2% milk to bring it to the right percentage (that doesn't
    usually happen with whole milk)...

    I have smelt/tasted where the milk is about to turn bad. Still good
    to consume, just want to soon. LIS, haven't heard of molasses milk
    though does sound worth a try. I haven't seen coffee nor strawberry flavoured milk out here (Midwest) though used to be available in New England, or at least prior to moving out here in 1975. Not talking
    the powdered mix, but rather flavoured milks in cartons.

    I've seen strawberry flavored milk in gallon jugs along with chocolate
    milk, likewise.... A regional milk cooperative (Upstate Milk) sells
    various flavored milks in plastic pint bottles.... chocolate, mocha, strawberry, cappuchino, and seasonal flavors such as mint chocolate
    chip, eggnog, pumpkin spice, etc...

    99% of my taglines have been snagged from others or extracted from
    various sources so if you gave me one of 'my' taglines it probably
    originated elsewhere.
    Like most of mine... :)
    Right. I found the trouble with snagging that great tagline was
    everyone else has snagged it too, so not such a great catch.
    It might not have been seen in some other echo, though... ;)
    True. I more or less figure if I like the tagline to snag it, If
    it's out there it probably has been seen. A tagline is more of a
    decoration than the main item.
    True, that last.... ;) We do have someone in the COOKING echo that
    tends to produce new ones, or rework old ones to make them new... A
    lot of his have ended up in my file... ;)
    I'll have to see about selecting the one about roast beef. <g>

    I saw that one below... I've seen it elsewhere as a one-liner...

    ... Everyone is of some use, if only to set a bad example.
    Yup; think I used a similar one in the previous message.

    Yup, you did.... :)

    I've gotten some interesting responses with a live use of 'everyone
    brings happiness to this room; some by coming, some by leaving'. <g>
    (One does have to say that judiciously!)

    One does... :)

    ttyl neb

    ... Forbidden fruit is responsible for many a bad jam.

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Wed Nov 27 09:41:00 2019

    Hi Nancy!

    All sorts of details to go wrong. And the various chefs and cooks just
    do things slightly differently, even with standardized chain
    restaurant cooking. "Squirt grill with canola oil." OK. One chef
    will give a healthy squirrrrt while another will do an anemic (squirt)
    -- that detail will alter the outcome.
    Indeed. :)
    Oils and fats do make a difference on the flavour, though usually a reduction in flavour accompanying a reduction in calories.

    True; certain cooking techniques add (or reduce) flavour. Was reading
    the more the surface of the meat is charred the better the flavour ==>
    was one reason why cooking a hamburger on a solid surface flat and very
    hot grill at a restaurant tasted better: all of the surface was seared.
    (Plus they have strong exhaust fans to draw the smoke away from the
    smoke detector in the hall off the kitchen!)


    Yup... fat generally carries the flavor... :) One could do
    better to drop out some of added sugars to reduce calories... ;)

    Yes, though when we at out, which isn't all that often, we ignore the
    calories printed on the menu and go for what we want/looks good. Back
    home compensate for the 'billion calorie meal' by eating lighter/having
    a snack instead of a meal.


    As for your friend, some people just have the knack.
    He certainly does... :) he helped me make a steak and kidney pie at
    the Cooking Echo picnic... I was going on my remembering doing it
    years ago, he was going on remembered tastes from years ago... no
    recipes, but he does have years of doing all sorts of techniques, and
    used what was needed for our project... Came out very nicely... :)
    Good. And yes, makes sense to use an established recipe (even from
    memory), but then need to tweak for the subtle differences. Maybe the
    tomatoes are a bit more tart than usual, or green pepper not as mature
    and holding in its flavour. Compensate with a pinch of this, a
    sprinkle of that, all determined by taste. ...And how one can taste
    and just know the right seasoning to add is beyond me .
    It's what sets apart the real cooks from the likes of you and me... ;)
    <loud chuckle!> So what's wrong with a few fish sticks in the
    microwave for two minutes?! (I'll do that if just for me at lunch; if dinner for the two of us baked in the oven or pan-fried stovetop.)
    Simple can be just as rewarding... especially when the main
    reward is having something to eat... ;) And I'll leave the fancy
    and the reward is in the production type meals to those who are
    more proficient at them... ;)

    Yes, and it's not too cost-efficient for us to have a wedge of lemon for
    fish so have some from the bottle of RealLemon. And that bottle isn't
    all that elegant on the table! Sprig of parsley? How about a shake of
    dried parsley flakes?


    We go "dunno - that's what the Toothpick Test is for near the end of
    baking. Dough sticking to the toothpick, leave in a little longer!
    (Not saying we don't adjust while mixing, just not as good at it.)
    A lot of it comes from experience.... and some things, the toothpick
    test is really the only way to test... :)
    Though sometimes get fancy and use a bamboo skewer <studio audience oooow's>. Experience is a key. And time and effort. 'Ordinary
    meals' I/we don't spend a lot of time and effort at -- decent. And
    that sounds worse than it is; not like the school lunch at the
    cafeteria line where the glop of mystery meat is plopped on to the
    tray. Sure, sometimes 'quick and easy' but tastes good and has presentation. (Why do I feel like I'm digging my hole deeper?)
    Not to worry.... even my very talented friend cooks 'quick and
    easy' as well, from time to time....

    Though they probably do it fancier and with more eye appeal
    automatically -- just habit.


    To me eating an overdone hamburger is not as bad taste-wise as an
    overdone steak. Nice they comp'd The Wizard's meal; I'm thinking $5
    or $10 just for the hamburger would have been sufficient, but maybe
    they (the restaurant) can't do dollar-off, or fractions of a meal. (My working retail experience was more dress missing belt, $5 off type of thing.)
    Most restaurants would be more likely to just comp the part of
    the meal that was defective... we were quite surprised to have
    his entire meal comp'ed... I'm sure they could do dollar-off,
    though, as they regularly have coupons for dollar-off as well as percentage-off.... :)

    Probably. If worked in the restaurant area then it probably would make
    more sense why the entire meal was comp'd as opposed to a partial
    reduction. I do agree with you, it would seem more logical to give away
    the overdone hamburger but not the perfectly done sides. OTOH free food
    is good food!



    add chocolate if the milk was starting to taste like it was about to
    turn... I came across molasses milk later, as a way to make a
    fortifying drink... as it is quite tasty, I added to my bag of tricks
    for covering up an off-taste in the milk... ;)
    You sure you don't have that curdle flavour like I did?!
    Pretty sure.... I do taste when milk picks up odd tastes, like
    from the waxed cardboard carton, or a plastic taste from the jug,
    when the milk hasn't been taken proper care of at the store....
    And the added coconut oil to the 2% milk to bring it to the right percentage (that doesn't usually happen with whole milk)...

    And no one has marketed 'Tropical Milk'?!


    I have smelt/tasted where the milk is about to turn bad. Still good
    to consume, just want to soon. LIS, haven't heard of molasses milk
    though does sound worth a try. I haven't seen coffee nor strawberry flavoured milk out here (Midwest) though used to be available in New England, or at least prior to moving out here in 1975. Not talking
    the powdered mix, but rather flavoured milks in cartons.
    I've seen strawberry flavored milk in gallon jugs along with
    chocolate milk, likewise.... A regional milk cooperative (Upstate
    Milk) sells various flavored milks in plastic pint bottles....
    chocolate, mocha, strawberry, cappuchino, and seasonal flavors
    such as mint chocolate chip, eggnog, pumpkin spice, etc...

    I don't recall seeing those 'wild' flavours out here, but then I'm not
    all that into milk. The egg nog has been out for a few grocery trip --
    as much as I love egg nog I'm avoiding buying any until at least the
    first of December to make it a little more special.


    99% of my taglines have been snagged from others or extracted from
    various sources so if you gave me one of 'my' taglines it probably
    originated elsewhere.
    Like most of mine... :)
    Right. I found the trouble with snagging that great tagline was
    everyone else has snagged it too, so not such a great catch.
    It might not have been seen in some other echo, though... ;)
    True. I more or less figure if I like the tagline to snag it, If
    it's out there it probably has been seen. A tagline is more of a
    decoration than the main item.
    True, that last.... ;) We do have someone in the COOKING echo that
    tends to produce new ones, or rework old ones to make them new... A
    lot of his have ended up in my file... ;)
    I'll have to see about selecting the one about roast beef. <g>
    I saw that one below... I've seen it elsewhere as a one-liner...

    <Pulling tagline from end>

    ... Forbidden fruit is responsible for many a bad jam.

    Yes -- I'm recalling it more as a saying than tagline.



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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Tue Dec 3 17:18:10 2019
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 27-Nov-2019 09:41 <=-

    All sorts of details to go wrong. And the various chefs and cooks just
    do things slightly differently, even with standardized chain
    restaurant cooking. "Squirt grill with canola oil." OK. One chef
    will give a healthy squirrrrt while another will do an anemic (squirt)
    -- that detail will alter the outcome.
    Indeed. :)
    Oils and fats do make a difference on the flavour, though usually a
    reduction in flavour accompanying a reduction in calories.
    True; certain cooking techniques add (or reduce) flavour. Was reading
    the more the surface of the meat is charred the better the flavour ==>
    was one reason why cooking a hamburger on a solid surface flat and
    very hot grill at a restaurant tasted better: all of the surface was seared. (Plus they have strong exhaust fans to draw the smoke away from the smoke detector in the hall off the kitchen!)

    Of course, they also say now that the char is what is likely to be cancer-producing....

    Yup... fat generally carries the flavor... :) One could do
    better to drop out some of added sugars to reduce calories... ;)
    Yes, though when we eat out, which isn't all that often, we ignore the calories printed on the menu and go for what we want/looks good. Back home compensate for the 'billion calorie meal' by eating
    lighter/having a snack instead of a meal.

    Most places we go don't print the calories (aren't required to, since
    not part of a chain), but one can still have a general idea if one knows anything about nutrition.... And when we eat out, that will be our meal
    for the day... Just aren't hungry for another meal later if it was
    lunch, so will snack to have food with evening meds.... And if it's supper/dinner, we won't have had lunch earlier.... :)

    It's what sets apart the real cooks from the likes of you and me... ;)
    <loud chuckle!> So what's wrong with a few fish sticks in the
    microwave for two minutes?! (I'll do that if just for me at lunch; if
    dinner for the two of us baked in the oven or pan-fried stovetop.)
    Simple can be just as rewarding... especially when the main reward is
    having something to eat... ;) And I'll leave the fancy and the reward
    is in the production type meals to those who are more proficient at
    them... ;)
    Yes, and it's not too cost-efficient for us to have a wedge of lemon
    for fish so have some from the bottle of RealLemon. And that bottle
    isn't all that elegant on the table! Sprig of parsley? How about a
    shake of dried parsley flakes?

    Or skip them entirely... :) And just enjoy the taste of the fish
    itself... ;)

    Experience is a key. And time and effort. 'Ordinary meals' I/we
    don't spend a lot of time and effort at -- decent. And that sounds
    worse than it is; not like the school lunch at the cafeteria line
    where the glop of mystery meat is plopped on to the tray. Sure,
    sometimes 'quick and easy' but tastes good and has presentation. (Why
    do I feel like I'm digging my hole deeper?)
    Not to worry.... even my very talented friend cooks 'quick and easy'
    as well, from time to time....
    Though they probably do it fancier and with more eye appeal
    automatically -- just habit.

    Perhaps... depends on what's available, and what the dish is... :)

    To me eating an overdone hamburger is not as bad taste-wise as an
    overdone steak. Nice they comp'd The Wizard's meal; I'm thinking $5
    or $10 just for the hamburger would have been sufficient, but maybe
    they (the restaurant) can't do dollar-off, or fractions of a meal. (My
    working retail experience was more dress missing belt, $5 off type of
    thing.)
    Most restaurants would be more likely to just comp the part of the
    meal that was defective... we were quite surprised to have his entire
    meal comp'ed... I'm sure they could do dollar-off, though, as they
    regularly have coupons for dollar-off as well as percentage-off... :)
    Probably. If worked in the restaurant area then it probably would
    make more sense why the entire meal was comp'd as opposed to a partial reduction. I do agree with you, it would seem more logical to give
    away the overdone hamburger but not the perfectly done sides. OTOH
    free food is good food!

    We just smiled and said thank-you, and paid the bill as presented... :)

    add chocolate if the milk was starting to taste like it was about to
    turn... I came across molasses milk later, as a way to make a
    fortifying drink... as it is quite tasty, I added to my bag of tricks
    for covering up an off-taste in the milk... ;)
    You sure you don't have that curdle flavour like I did?!
    Pretty sure.... I do taste when milk picks up odd tastes, like from
    the waxed cardboard carton, or a plastic taste from the jug, when the
    milk hasn't been taken proper care of at the store.... And the added
    coconut oil to the 2% milk to bring it to the right percentage (that
    doesn't usually happen with whole milk)...
    And no one has marketed 'Tropical Milk'?!

    Now they might... but not just pass it off as regular milk... At one
    point, it was actually listed in the acceptable to be added to milk
    list... that may have changed by now...

    I have smelt/tasted where the milk is about to turn bad. Still good
    to consume, just want to soon. LIS, haven't heard of molasses milk
    though does sound worth a try. I haven't seen coffee nor strawberry
    flavoured milk out here (Midwest) though used to be available in New
    England, or at least prior to moving out here in 1975. Not talking
    the powdered mix, but rather flavoured milks in cartons.
    I've seen strawberry flavored milk in gallon jugs along with
    chocolate milk, likewise.... A regional milk cooperative (Upstate
    Milk) sells various flavored milks in plastic pint bottles....
    chocolate, mocha, strawberry, cappuchino, and seasonal flavors such
    as mint chocolate chip, eggnog, pumpkin spice, etc...
    I don't recall seeing those 'wild' flavours out here, but then I'm not
    all that into milk. The egg nog has been out for a few grocery trip
    -- as much as I love egg nog I'm avoiding buying any until at least the first of December to make it a little more special.

    Commercial eggnog seems to have some additives that don't agree with me, unfortunately.... I do like it, though, at least in small quantities,
    when made fresh... :)

    ... Forbidden fruit is responsible for many a bad jam.
    Yes -- I'm recalling it more as a saying than tagline.

    A lot of taglines are nothing more than old sayings... :)

    ttyl neb

    ... Taglines: a new life for old cliches and maxims.

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Wed Dec 4 09:02:00 2019

    Hi Nancy!

    All sorts of details to go wrong. And the various chefs and cooks just
    do things slightly differently, even with standardized chain
    restaurant cooking. "Squirt grill with canola oil." OK. One chef
    will give a healthy squirrrrt while another will do an anemic (squirt)
    -- that detail will alter the outcome.
    Indeed. :)
    Oils and fats do make a difference on the flavour, though usually a
    reduction in flavour accompanying a reduction in calories.
    True; certain cooking techniques add (or reduce) flavour. Was reading
    the more the surface of the meat is charred the better the flavour ==>
    was one reason why cooking a hamburger on a solid surface flat and
    very hot grill at a restaurant tasted better: all of the surface was seared. (Plus they have strong exhaust fans to draw the smoke away from the smoke detector in the hall off the kitchen!)
    Of course, they also say now that the char is what is likely to
    be cancer-producing....

    Unfortunately. And not to minimize the seriousness it seems everything
    is cancer-causing. Lots of things people can do (like eating healthy)
    and not do (like smoking) to minimize.


    Yup... fat generally carries the flavor... :) One could do
    better to drop out some of added sugars to reduce calories... ;)
    Yes, though when we eat out, which isn't all that often, we ignore the calories printed on the menu and go for what we want/looks good. Back home compensate for the 'billion calorie meal' by eating
    lighter/having a snack instead of a meal.
    Most places we go don't print the calories (aren't required to,
    since not part of a chain), but one can still have a general idea
    if one knows anything about nutrition.... And when we eat out,
    that will be our meal for the day... Just aren't hungry for
    another meal later if it was lunch, so will snack to have food
    with evening meds.... And if it's supper/dinner, we won't have
    had lunch earlier.... :)

    Yes, we tend to do similar: eat lighter on either side of the huge
    meal, effectively to balance out.


    It's what sets apart the real cooks from the likes of you and me... ;)
    <loud chuckle!> So what's wrong with a few fish sticks in the
    microwave for two minutes?! (I'll do that if just for me at lunch; if
    dinner for the two of us baked in the oven or pan-fried stovetop.)
    Simple can be just as rewarding... especially when the main reward is
    having something to eat... ;) And I'll leave the fancy and the reward
    is in the production type meals to those who are more proficient at
    them... ;)
    Yes, and it's not too cost-efficient for us to have a wedge of lemon
    for fish so have some from the bottle of RealLemon. And that bottle
    isn't all that elegant on the table! Sprig of parsley? How about a
    shake of dried parsley flakes?
    Or skip them entirely... :) And just enjoy the taste of the fish itself... ;)

    Have done that also: partially to have a change of flavour of the same
    main item, partially because sometimes I feel like tartar sauce,
    sometimes lemon, and sometimes plain. Basically all taste.


    Experience is a key. And time and effort. 'Ordinary meals' I/we
    don't spend a lot of time and effort at -- decent. And that sounds
    worse than it is; not like the school lunch at the cafeteria line
    where the glop of mystery meat is plopped on to the tray. Sure,
    sometimes 'quick and easy' but tastes good and has presentation. (Why
    do I feel like I'm digging my hole deeper?)
    Not to worry.... even my very talented friend cooks 'quick and easy'
    as well, from time to time....
    Though they probably do it fancier and with more eye appeal
    automatically -- just habit.
    Perhaps... depends on what's available, and what the dish is...
    :)

    Ummm, oatmeal. At the restaurant topped with three blueberries, a
    raspberry, and a sprig of rosemary. [Would that one work?] At home:
    three raisins, ... <getting desperate> a cube of Swiss and how'd that
    dust bunny get in there?!


    To me eating an overdone hamburger is not as bad taste-wise as an
    overdone steak. Nice they comp'd The Wizard's meal; I'm thinking $5
    or $10 just for the hamburger would have been sufficient, but maybe
    they (the restaurant) can't do dollar-off, or fractions of a meal. (My
    working retail experience was more dress missing belt, $5 off type of
    thing.)
    Most restaurants would be more likely to just comp the part of the
    meal that was defective... we were quite surprised to have his entire
    meal comp'ed... I'm sure they could do dollar-off, though, as they
    regularly have coupons for dollar-off as well as percentage-off... :)
    Probably. If worked in the restaurant area then it probably would
    make more sense why the entire meal was comp'd as opposed to a partial reduction. I do agree with you, it would seem more logical to give
    away the overdone hamburger but not the perfectly done sides. OTOH
    free food is good food!
    We just smiled and said thank-you, and paid the bill as
    presented... :)

    Especially as previously they explained to you Richard's hamburnger (!)
    was comp'd. The only bill issue should be to tip based on the un-comp'd amount and not the presented amount.


    add chocolate if the milk was starting to taste like it was about to
    turn... I came across molasses milk later, as a way to make a
    fortifying drink... as it is quite tasty, I added to my bag of tricks
    for covering up an off-taste in the milk... ;)
    You sure you don't have that curdle flavour like I did?!
    Pretty sure.... I do taste when milk picks up odd tastes, like from
    the waxed cardboard carton, or a plastic taste from the jug, when the
    milk hasn't been taken proper care of at the store.... And the added
    coconut oil to the 2% milk to bring it to the right percentage (that
    doesn't usually happen with whole milk)...
    And no one has marketed 'Tropical Milk'?!
    Now they might... but not just pass it off as regular milk... At
    one point, it was actually listed in the acceptable to be added
    to milk list... that may have changed by now...

    I had not heard previously about adding coconut oil to milk but didn't
    come as a huge surprise. Know cow's milk isn't the the best available
    for humans -- forgot what was most comparable -- so possibly adding
    coconut oil helped.


    I have smelt/tasted where the milk is about to turn bad. Still good
    to consume, just want to soon. LIS, haven't heard of molasses milk
    though does sound worth a try. I haven't seen coffee nor strawberry
    flavoured milk out here (Midwest) though used to be available in New
    England, or at least prior to moving out here in 1975. Not talking
    the powdered mix, but rather flavoured milks in cartons.
    I've seen strawberry flavored milk in gallon jugs along with
    chocolate milk, likewise.... A regional milk cooperative (Upstate
    Milk) sells various flavored milks in plastic pint bottles....
    chocolate, mocha, strawberry, cappuchino, and seasonal flavors such
    as mint chocolate chip, eggnog, pumpkin spice, etc...
    I don't recall seeing those 'wild' flavours out here, but then I'm not
    all that into milk. The egg nog has been out for a few grocery trip
    -- as much as I love egg nog I'm avoiding buying any until at least the first of December to make it a little more special.
    Commercial eggnog seems to have some additives that don't agree
    with me, unfortunately.... I do like it, though, at least in
    small quantities, when made fresh... :)

    I haven't had homemade egg nog in I don't know how long, and since I'm
    the only one who does like it -- not sure if Autumn likes it or not, and
    her tastes vary periodically. Anyway, back to the egg nog, wonder if
    the additive is apple-based or something else?


    ... Forbidden fruit is responsible for many a bad jam.
    Yes -- I'm recalling it more as a saying than tagline.
    A lot of taglines are nothing more than old sayings... :)

    And here I was thinking saying are nothingmore than old taglines!


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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Tue Dec 10 18:40:44 2019
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 04-Dec-2019 09:02 <=-

    certain cooking techniques add (or reduce) flavour. Was reading
    the more the surface of the meat is charred the better the flavour ==>
    was one reason why cooking a hamburger on a solid surface flat and
    very hot grill at a restaurant tasted better: all of the surface was
    seared. (Plus they have strong exhaust fans to draw the smoke away from
    the smoke detector in the hall off the kitchen!)
    Of course, they also say now that the char is what is likely to be
    cancer-producing....
    Unfortunately. And not to minimize the seriousness it seems
    everything is cancer-causing. Lots of things people can do (like
    eating healthy) and not do (like smoking) to minimize.

    True, and part of the picture is that some things are only truly harmful
    when in ridiculously large quantities.... but I tend to avoid the char
    most of the time anyway... since it's not my favorite taste... :)

    Yup... fat generally carries the flavor... :) One could do
    better to drop out some of added sugars to reduce calories... ;)
    Yes, though when we eat out, which isn't all that often, we ignore the
    calories printed on the menu and go for what we want/looks good. Back
    home compensate for the 'billion calorie meal' by eating
    lighter/having a snack instead of a meal.
    Most places we go don't print the calories (aren't required to, since
    not part of a chain), but one can still have a general idea if one
    knows anything about nutrition.... And when we eat out, that will be
    our meal for the day... Just aren't hungry for another meal later if
    it was lunch, so will snack to have food with evening meds.... And if
    it's supper/dinner, we won't have had lunch earlier.... :)
    Yes, we tend to do similar: eat lighter on either side of the huge
    meal, effectively to balance out.

    As we've become older, we just don't have the capacity we once had.... ;)

    <loud chuckle!> So what's wrong with a few fish sticks in the
    microwave for two minutes?! (I'll do that if just for me at lunch; if
    dinner for the two of us baked in the oven or pan-fried stovetop.)
    Simple can be just as rewarding... especially when the main reward is
    having something to eat... ;) And I'll leave the fancy and the reward
    is in the production type meals to those who are more proficient at
    them... ;)
    Yes, and it's not too cost-efficient for us to have a wedge of lemon
    for fish so have some from the bottle of RealLemon. And that bottle
    isn't all that elegant on the table! Sprig of parsley? How about a
    shake of dried parsley flakes?
    Or skip them entirely... :) And just enjoy the taste of the fish
    itself... ;)
    Have done that also: partially to have a change of flavour of the same main item, partially because sometimes I feel like tartar sauce,
    sometimes lemon, and sometimes plain. Basically all taste.

    I'll sometimes mix up a simple tartar sauce with mayo and pickle
    relishes... usually have both sweet and dill on hand... and currently
    also have a little bottle of capers in the fridge, so might toss in some
    of those as well... :) We use that more with the breaded fish, shrimp
    or clams than with plain fish or shrimp...

    Experience is a key. And time and effort. 'Ordinary meals' I/we
    don't spend a lot of time and effort at -- decent. And that sounds
    worse than it is; not like the school lunch at the cafeteria line
    where the glop of mystery meat is plopped on to the tray. Sure,
    sometimes 'quick and easy' but tastes good and has presentation. (Why
    do I feel like I'm digging my hole deeper?)
    Not to worry.... even my very talented friend cooks 'quick and easy'
    as well, from time to time....
    Though they probably do it fancier and with more eye appeal
    automatically -- just habit.
    Perhaps... depends on what's available, and what the dish is... :)
    Ummm, oatmeal. At the restaurant topped with three blueberries, a raspberry, and a sprig of rosemary. [Would that one work?]

    It might... ;) The rosemary might be over the top a bit, though... ;)

    At home: three raisins, ... <getting desperate> a cube of Swiss and
    how'd that dust bunny get in there?!

    No need to get desperate... Oatmeal here would have raisins cooked into
    it, and topped with brown sugar and cinnamon.... probably a pat of
    butter as well, and often with milk... Comfort food from my childhood...

    Most restaurants would be more likely to just comp the part of the
    meal that was defective... we were quite surprised to have his entire
    meal comp'ed... I'm sure they could do dollar-off, though, as they
    regularly have coupons for dollar-off as well as percentage-off... :)
    Probably. If worked in the restaurant area then it probably would
    make more sense why the entire meal was comp'd as opposed to a partial
    reduction. I do agree with you, it would seem more logical to give
    away the overdone hamburger but not the perfectly done sides. OTOH
    free food is good food!
    We just smiled and said thank-you, and paid the bill as presented... :)
    Especially as previously they explained to you Richard's hamburnger
    (!) was comp'd. The only bill issue should be to tip based on the un-comp'd amount and not the presented amount.

    We may have compromised on that... somewhere between the two... I'm not remembering all the details... :)

    You sure you don't have that curdle flavour like I did?!
    Pretty sure.... I do taste when milk picks up odd tastes, like from
    the waxed cardboard carton, or a plastic taste from the jug, when the
    milk hasn't been taken proper care of at the store.... And the added
    coconut oil to the 2% milk to bring it to the right percentage (that
    doesn't usually happen with whole milk)...
    And no one has marketed 'Tropical Milk'?!
    Now they might... but not just pass it off as regular milk... At one
    point, it was actually listed in the acceptable to be added to milk
    list... that may have changed by now...
    I had not heard previously about adding coconut oil to milk but didn't come as a huge surprise. Know cow's milk isn't the the best available
    for humans -- forgot what was most comparable -- so possibly adding coconut oil helped.

    I don't think that it was any help at all, really.... coconut oil is
    even harder to digest, at least for some people.... :) I think that
    it's goat's milk that is more comparable to human milk...

    I have smelt/tasted where the milk is about to turn bad. Still good
    to consume, just want to soon. LIS, haven't heard of molasses milk
    though does sound worth a try. I haven't seen coffee nor strawberry
    flavoured milk out here (Midwest) though used to be available in New
    England, or at least prior to moving out here in 1975. Not talking
    the powdered mix, but rather flavoured milks in cartons.
    I've seen strawberry flavored milk in gallon jugs along with
    chocolate milk, likewise.... A regional milk cooperative (Upstate
    Milk) sells various flavored milks in plastic pint bottles....
    chocolate, mocha, strawberry, cappuchino, and seasonal flavors such
    as mint chocolate chip, eggnog, pumpkin spice, etc...
    I don't recall seeing those 'wild' flavours out here, but then I'm not
    all that into milk. The egg nog has been out for a few grocery trip
    -- as much as I love egg nog I'm avoiding buying any until at least the
    first of December to make it a little more special.
    Commercial eggnog seems to have some additives that don't agree with
    me, unfortunately.... I do like it, though, at least in small
    quantities, when made fresh... :)
    I haven't had homemade egg nog in I don't know how long, and since I'm
    the only one who does like it -- not sure if Autumn likes it or not,
    and her tastes vary periodically. Anyway, back to the egg nog, wonder
    if the additive is apple-based or something else?

    I doubt it would be apple-based.... might be some sort of preservative, though.... So, have you bought any this season yet...?

    ... Forbidden fruit is responsible for many a bad jam.
    Yes -- I'm recalling it more as a saying than tagline.
    A lot of taglines are nothing more than old sayings... :)
    And here I was thinking saying are nothingmore than old taglines!

    Considering that generally they've been around a lot longer than
    taglines have existed.... <G>

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Wed Dec 11 10:03:00 2019

    Hi Nancy!

    Will be shovelling a little over an inch of 'chance of flurries' later
    this morning: weather forecast was for a trace of snow but no
    accumulation. They were roight about the cold period though: didn't get
    above 21-22 yesterday and wild chil lwas about half that. Similar for
    today.


    certain cooking techniques add (or reduce) flavour. Was reading
    the more the surface of the meat is charred the better the flavour ==>
    was one reason why cooking a hamburger on a solid surface flat and
    very hot grill at a restaurant tasted better: all of the surface was
    seared. (Plus they have strong exhaust fans to draw the smoke away from
    the smoke detector in the hall off the kitchen!)
    Of course, they also say now that the char is what is likely to be
    cancer-producing....
    Unfortunately. And not to minimize the seriousness it seems
    everything is cancer-causing. Lots of things people can do (like
    eating healthy) and not do (like smoking) to minimize.
    True, and part of the picture is that some things are only truly
    harmful when in ridiculously large quantities.... but I tend to
    avoid the char most of the time anyway... since it's not my
    favorite taste... :)

    I sort of like it but not in excess: I don't want to be eating charcoal.
    As for the 'ridiculously large quantities', definite agreement: sure,
    the scientists have to increase the intake to simulate a lifetime of
    eating, but then people pick out certain portions of the study and it
    becomes 'eating <item> causes <result>'. Again, I'm not saying they're
    wrong, just the condensed report can make things look a lot worse than
    they really are.


    Yup... fat generally carries the flavor... :) One could do
    better to drop out some of added sugars to reduce calories... ;)
    Yes, though when we eat out, which isn't all that often, we ignore the
    calories printed on the menu and go for what we want/looks good. Back
    home compensate for the 'billion calorie meal' by eating
    lighter/having a snack instead of a meal.
    Most places we go don't print the calories (aren't required to, since
    not part of a chain), but one can still have a general idea if one
    knows anything about nutrition.... And when we eat out, that will be
    our meal for the day... Just aren't hungry for another meal later if
    it was lunch, so will snack to have food with evening meds.... And if
    it's supper/dinner, we won't have had lunch earlier.... :)
    Yes, we tend to do similar: eat lighter on either side of the huge
    meal, effectively to balance out.
    As we've become older, we just don't have the capacity we once
    had.... ;)

    And combine with being more sedentary so one doesn't burn off calories
    as quickly as when was younger.


    Yes, and it's not too cost-efficient for us to have a wedge of lemon
    for fish so have some from the bottle of RealLemon. And that bottle
    isn't all that elegant on the table! Sprig of parsley? How about a
    shake of dried parsley flakes?
    Or skip them entirely... :) And just enjoy the taste of the fish
    itself... ;)
    Have done that also: partially to have a change of flavour of the same main item, partially because sometimes I feel like tartar sauce,
    sometimes lemon, and sometimes plain. Basically all taste.
    I'll sometimes mix up a simple tartar sauce with mayo and pickle relishes... usually have both sweet and dill on hand... and
    currently also have a little bottle of capers in the fridge, so
    might toss in some of those as well... :) We use that more with
    the breaded fish, shrimp or clams than with plain fish or
    shrimp...

    Yours probably tasted better than my squirt of store-bought tartar sauce
    I had on my fish sticks yesterday!


    Experience is a key. And time and effort. 'Ordinary meals' I/we
    don't spend a lot of time and effort at -- decent. And that sounds
    worse than it is; not like the school lunch at the cafeteria line
    where the glop of mystery meat is plopped on to the tray. Sure,
    sometimes 'quick and easy' but tastes good and has presentation. (Why
    do I feel like I'm digging my hole deeper?)
    Not to worry.... even my very talented friend cooks 'quick and easy'
    as well, from time to time....
    Though they probably do it fancier and with more eye appeal
    automatically -- just habit.
    Perhaps... depends on what's available, and what the dish is... :)
    Ummm, oatmeal. At the restaurant topped with three blueberries, a raspberry, and a sprig of rosemary. [Would that one work?]
    It might... ;) The rosemary might be over the top a bit,
    though... ;)

    I intended to become more familiar with spices, or just cooking in
    general, as I got older: figured would have more time, etc. Now I do
    very little cooking as don't have the opportunity.


    At home: three raisins, ... <getting desperate> a cube of Swiss and
    how'd that dust bunny get in there?!
    No need to get desperate... Oatmeal here would have raisins
    cooked into it, and topped with brown sugar and cinnamon....
    probably a pat of butter as well, and often with milk... Comfort
    food from my childhood...

    I have instant oatmeal -- partially because I want it now and partially because I'm the only one eating it. Add a bunch of raisins (it's
    probably closer to three raisins per spoonful), boil the water -- this
    plumps up the raisins a bit as well as warms them up, pour in a pouch of
    a flavoured oatmeal (but not the 'cream and' option as too sweet), add a
    pour of the instant oatmeal from the canister (unflavoured) because I
    want more than just the pouchworth and cuts the flavour. Rarely will I
    add butter; never added milk. Admittedly never tried - parents didn't,
    don't recall any friends having it that way when growing up but then not
    there for breakfast.



    Most restaurants would be more likely to just comp the part of the
    meal that was defective... we were quite surprised to have his entire
    meal comp'ed... I'm sure they could do dollar-off, though, as they
    regularly have coupons for dollar-off as well as percentage-off... :)
    Probably. If worked in the restaurant area then it probably would
    make more sense why the entire meal was comp'd as opposed to a partial
    reduction. I do agree with you, it would seem more logical to give
    away the overdone hamburger but not the perfectly done sides. OTOH
    free food is good food!
    We just smiled and said thank-you, and paid the bill as presented... :)
    Especially as previously they explained to you Richard's hamburnger
    (!) was comp'd. The only bill issue should be to tip based on the un-comp'd amount and not the presented amount.
    We may have compromised on that... somewhere between the two...
    I'm not remembering all the details... :)

    Don't blame you -- the burnt hamburger event would be somewhat
    memorable, everything else more than likely not.


    You sure you don't have that curdle flavour like I did?!
    Pretty sure.... I do taste when milk picks up odd tastes, like from
    the waxed cardboard carton, or a plastic taste from the jug, when the
    milk hasn't been taken proper care of at the store.... And the added
    coconut oil to the 2% milk to bring it to the right percentage (that
    doesn't usually happen with whole milk)...
    And no one has marketed 'Tropical Milk'?!
    Now they might... but not just pass it off as regular milk... At one
    point, it was actually listed in the acceptable to be added to milk
    list... that may have changed by now...
    I had not heard previously about adding coconut oil to milk but didn't come as a huge surprise. Know cow's milk isn't the the best available
    for humans -- forgot what was most comparable -- so possibly adding coconut oil helped.
    I don't think that it was any help at all, really.... coconut oil
    is even harder to digest, at least for some people.... :) I
    think that it's goat's milk that is more comparable to human
    milk...

    The additives keep getting worse!



    I have smelt/tasted where the milk is about to turn bad. Still good
    to consume, just want to soon. LIS, haven't heard of molasses milk
    though does sound worth a try. I haven't seen coffee nor strawberry
    flavoured milk out here (Midwest) though used to be available in New
    England, or at least prior to moving out here in 1975. Not talking
    the powdered mix, but rather flavoured milks in cartons.
    I've seen strawberry flavored milk in gallon jugs along with
    chocolate milk, likewise.... A regional milk cooperative (Upstate
    Milk) sells various flavored milks in plastic pint bottles....
    chocolate, mocha, strawberry, cappuchino, and seasonal flavors such
    as mint chocolate chip, eggnog, pumpkin spice, etc...
    I don't recall seeing those 'wild' flavours out here, but then I'm not
    all that into milk. The egg nog has been out for a few grocery trip
    -- as much as I love egg nog I'm avoiding buying any until at least the
    first of December to make it a little more special.
    Commercial eggnog seems to have some additives that don't agree with
    me, unfortunately.... I do like it, though, at least in small
    quantities, when made fresh... :)
    I haven't had homemade egg nog in I don't know how long, and since I'm
    the only one who does like it -- not sure if Autumn likes it or not,
    and her tastes vary periodically. Anyway, back to the egg nog, wonder
    if the additive is apple-based or something else?
    I doubt it would be apple-based.... might be some sort of
    preservative, though.... So, have you bought any this season
    yet...?

    Not yet. Last week's trip was on the 5th, so my "eggnog in December
    rule" would have been in effect. A few extras in the cart and my
    Scottish Guy wasn't liking the little added expense. Tomorrow he'll
    probably open his rusty coin purse. <g>


    ... Forbidden fruit is responsible for many a bad jam.
    Yes -- I'm recalling it more as a saying than tagline.
    A lot of taglines are nothing more than old sayings... :)
    And here I was thinking saying are nothing more than old taglines!
    Considering that generally they've been around a lot longer than
    taglines have existed.... <G>

    Plus not subject to the 72 (or is it 75?) character limit!



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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/1 to Barry Martin on Fri Dec 20 19:05:14 2019
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 11-Dec-2019 10:03 <=-

    Will be shovelling a little over an inch of 'chance of flurries' later this morning: weather forecast was for a trace of snow but no accumulation. They were right about the cold period though: didn't
    get above 21-22 yesterday and wind chill was about half that. Similar for today.

    We've been having similar chills... and less... and this morning woke up
    to about an inch of "mostly cloudy", that was supposed to be only a skim
    of accumulation... at least it's light and fluffy... :)

    Of course, they also say now that the char is what is likely to be
    cancer-producing....
    Unfortunately. And not to minimize the seriousness it seems
    everything is cancer-causing. Lots of things people can do (like
    eating healthy) and not do (like smoking) to minimize.
    True, and part of the picture is that some things are only truly
    harmful when in ridiculously large quantities.... but I tend to avoid
    the char most of the time anyway... since it's not my favorite
    taste... :)
    I sort of like it but not in excess: I don't want to be eating
    charcoal. As for the 'ridiculously large quantities', definite
    agreement: sure, the scientists have to increase the intake to simulate
    a lifetime of eating, but then people pick out certain portions of the study and it becomes 'eating <item> causes <result>'. Again, I'm not saying they're wrong, just the condensed report can make things look a
    lot worse than they really are.

    I tend to take those studies with a grain of salt... but then add to
    them my empirical observations... For instance, the ones on saccherine
    causing cancer, maybe, maybe not, but it does indeed cause major
    problems for me (causes migraines), so I'll avoid it totally...

    And when we eat out, that will be
    our meal for the day... Just aren't hungry for another meal later if
    it was lunch, so will snack to have food with evening meds.... And if
    it's supper/dinner, we won't have had lunch earlier.... :)
    Yes, we tend to do similar: eat lighter on either side of the huge
    meal, effectively to balance out.
    As we've become older, we just don't have the capacity we once
    had.... ;)
    And combine with being more sedentary so one doesn't burn off calories
    as quickly as when was younger.

    There's a little of that, too... but not something that really plays
    into our thinking... mostly it's just that our eating habits have
    shifted.... :)

    And just enjoy the taste of the fish itself... ;)
    Have done that also: partially to have a change of flavour of the same
    main item, partially because sometimes I feel like tartar sauce,
    sometimes lemon, and sometimes plain. Basically all taste.
    I'll sometimes mix up a simple tartar sauce with mayo and pickle
    relishes... usually have both sweet and dill on hand... and
    currently also have a little bottle of capers in the fridge, so
    might toss in some of those as well... :) We use that more with
    the breaded fish, shrimp or clams than with plain fish or shrimp...
    Yours probably tasted better than my squirt of store-bought tartar
    sauce I had on my fish sticks yesterday!

    Poosibly... depends on what one's taste buds expect... :)

    Though they probably do it fancier and with more eye appeal
    automatically -- just habit.
    Perhaps... depends on what's available, and what the dish is... :)
    Ummm, oatmeal. At the restaurant topped with three blueberries, a
    raspberry, and a sprig of rosemary. [Would that one work?]
    It might... ;) The rosemary might be over the top a bit, though... ;)
    I intended to become more familiar with spices, or just cooking in general, as I got older: figured would have more time, etc. Now I do very little cooking as don't have the opportunity.

    If it's something you are interested in, sometimes one just has to make
    the time and opportunity... :)

    At home: three raisins, ... <getting desperate> a cube of Swiss and
    how'd that dust bunny get in there?!
    No need to get desperate... Oatmeal here would have raisins cooked
    into it, and topped with brown sugar and cinnamon.... probably a pat
    of butter as well, and often with milk... Comfort food from my
    childhood...
    I have instant oatmeal -- partially because I want it now and
    partially because I'm the only one eating it. Add a bunch of raisins (it's probably closer to three raisins per spoonful), boil the water -- this plumps up the raisins a bit as well as warms them up, pour in a
    pouch of a flavoured oatmeal (but not the 'cream and' option as too sweet), add a pour of the instant oatmeal from the canister
    (unflavoured) because I want more than just the pouchworth and cuts the flavour.

    You can do the same thing, in about the same time, or maybe even less,
    by putting the water, raisins and regular oatmeal in a bowl in the
    microwave... that's how I do it now... :)

    Rarely will I add butter; never added milk. Admittedly never
    tried - parents didn't, don't recall any friends having it that way
    when growing up but then not there for breakfast.

    It's probably a Scottish thing... milk on the oat porridge.... :)

    And no one has marketed 'Tropical Milk'?!
    Now they might... but not just pass it off as regular milk... At one
    point, it was actually listed in the acceptable to be added to milk
    list... that may have changed by now...
    I had not heard previously about adding coconut oil to milk but didn't
    come as a huge surprise. Know cow's milk isn't the the best available
    for humans -- forgot what was most comparable -- so possibly adding
    coconut oil helped.
    I don't think that it was any help at all, really.... coconut oil is
    even harder to digest, at least for some people.... :) I think that
    it's goat's milk that is more comparable to human milk...
    The additives keep getting worse!

    Actually, the trend has turned some... Fewer things have additives than
    it had been getting to be... and it can be a point of pride (and
    advertising) that there are no additives....

    A regional milk cooperative (Upstate Milk) sells various flavored
    milks in plastic pint bottles.... chocolate, mocha, strawberry,
    cappuchino, and seasonal flavors such as mint chocolate chip,
    eggnog, pumpkin spice, etc...
    I don't recall seeing those 'wild' flavours out here, but then I'm
    not all that into milk. The egg nog has been out for a few grocery
    trips -- as much as I love egg nog I'm avoiding buying any until at
    least the first of December to make it a little more special.
    Commercial eggnog seems to have some additives that don't agree with
    me, unfortunately.... I do like it, though, at least in small
    quantities, when made fresh... :)
    I haven't had homemade egg nog in I don't know how long, and since I'm
    the only one who does like it -- not sure if Autumn likes it or not,
    and her tastes vary periodically. Anyway, back to the egg nog, wonder
    if the additive is apple-based or something else?
    I doubt it would be apple-based.... might be some sort of
    preservative, though.... So, have you bought any this season yet...?
    Not yet. Last week's trip was on the 5th, so my "eggnog in December
    rule" would have been in effect. A few extras in the cart and my
    Scottish Guy wasn't liking the little added expense. Tomorrow he'll probably open his rusty coin purse. <g>

    As it's well into the Christmas season now, I'd think you'd be able to
    just override him at this point.... <G>

    ... Forbidden fruit is responsible for many a bad jam.
    Yes -- I'm recalling it more as a saying than tagline.
    A lot of taglines are nothing more than old sayings... :)
    And here I was thinking saying are nothing more than old taglines!
    Considering that generally they've been around a lot longer than
    taglines have existed.... <G>
    Plus not subject to the 72 (or is it 75?) character limit!

    I think BlueWave's is 72 (tho I'd have to check to be sure), and
    Multimail's limit is a little longer....

    ttyl neb

    ... Behind every good computer - is a jumble of cables!SEEN-BY: 1/1 452
  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Sat Dec 21 09:39:00 2019

    Hi Nancy!

    Will be shovelling a little over an inch of 'chance of flurries' later this morning: weather forecast was for a trace of snow but no accumulation. They were right about the cold period though: didn't
    get above 21-22 yesterday and wind chill was about half that. Similar for today.
    We've been having similar chills... and less... and this morning
    woke up to about an inch of "mostly cloudy", that was supposed to
    be only a skim of accumulation... at least it's light and
    fluffy... :)

    Good news on the light and fluffy variety: generally easier to shovel
    out of the way. It hit 49 here yesterday and there's still the
    sections of yards with snow. Spotty, but still mostly clovered. Today
    and tomorrow supposed to get into the lower 50's (normal temp's are in
    the lower 30's) so might not be any snow left except where piled by
    sidewalks, driveways and roads.


    Of course, they also say now that the char is what is likely to be
    cancer-producing....
    Unfortunately. And not to minimize the seriousness it seems
    everything is cancer-causing. Lots of things people can do (like
    eating healthy) and not do (like smoking) to minimize.
    True, and part of the picture is that some things are only truly
    harmful when in ridiculously large quantities.... but I tend to avoid
    the char most of the time anyway... since it's not my favorite
    taste... :)
    I sort of like it but not in excess: I don't want to be eating
    charcoal. As for the 'ridiculously large quantities', definite
    agreement: sure, the scientists have to increase the intake to simulate
    a lifetime of eating, but then people pick out certain portions of the study and it becomes 'eating <item> causes <result>'. Again, I'm not saying they're wrong, just the condensed report can make things look a
    lot worse than they really are.
    I tend to take those studies with a grain of salt... but then add
    to them my empirical observations... For instance, the ones on
    saccherine causing cancer, maybe, maybe not, but it does indeed
    cause major problems for me (causes migraines), so I'll avoid it totally...

    I'm with you: seems everything causes something. I'm not making light
    of the studies, and I think we can eat, do and not do lifestyle options,
    etc., to minimize the chances of getting sick/a disease. I thnk some of
    the diseases are occurring just because humans are living longer. OTOH
    there are changes because of lifestyle: my Mother pointed out there are
    a lot of tall young people now - her generation and prior were shorter,
    she surmises because of food not being as readily available (due to the
    wars, harder to transport and store food, etc.).

    As for staying away from saccherine because of migraines, yes, I would
    too! I haven't pinpointed to the specifics but there are some foods
    which give me slight faint 'odd' flavour and others shortly later a
    generalized itch/tingling (again weakly). At this point not enough to
    do anything to find the commonality and so the source.


    And when we eat out, that will be
    our meal for the day... Just aren't hungry for another meal later if
    it was lunch, so will snack to have food with evening meds.... And if
    it's supper/dinner, we won't have had lunch earlier.... :)
    Yes, we tend to do similar: eat lighter on either side of the huge
    meal, effectively to balance out.
    As we've become older, we just don't have the capacity we once
    had.... ;)
    And combine with being more sedentary so one doesn't burn off calories
    as quickly as when was younger.
    There's a little of that, too... but not something that really
    plays into our thinking... mostly it's just that our eating
    habits have shifted.... :)

    If it makes more sense why not? In my book there's nothing to prevent
    one from having cereal for the evening meal and meatloaf for the one
    first thing in the morning. All a matter of convenience and probably
    more so appetite.


    And just enjoy the taste of the fish itself... ;)
    Have done that also: partially to have a change of flavour of the same
    main item, partially because sometimes I feel like tartar sauce,
    sometimes lemon, and sometimes plain. Basically all taste.
    I'll sometimes mix up a simple tartar sauce with mayo and pickle
    relishes... usually have both sweet and dill on hand... and
    currently also have a little bottle of capers in the fridge, so
    might toss in some of those as well... :) We use that more with
    the breaded fish, shrimp or clams than with plain fish or shrimp...
    Yours probably tasted better than my squirt of store-bought tartar
    sauce I had on my fish sticks yesterday!
    Poosibly... depends on what one's taste buds expect... :)

    Mine weren't expecting much! <g>


    Though they probably do it fancier and with more eye appeal
    automatically -- just habit.
    Perhaps... depends on what's available, and what the dish is... :)
    Ummm, oatmeal. At the restaurant topped with three blueberries, a
    raspberry, and a sprig of rosemary. [Would that one work?]
    It might... ;) The rosemary might be over the top a bit, though... ;)
    I intended to become more familiar with spices, or just cooking in general, as I got older: figured would have more time, etc. Now I do very little cooking as don't have the opportunity.
    If it's something you are interested in, sometimes one just has
    to make the time and opportunity... :)

    I'm making dinner!
    Where are we going?
    No, I'm _making_ dinner.
    <faint>


    At home: three raisins, ... <getting desperate> a cube of Swiss and
    how'd that dust bunny get in there?!
    No need to get desperate... Oatmeal here would have raisins cooked
    into it, and topped with brown sugar and cinnamon.... probably a pat
    of butter as well, and often with milk... Comfort food from my
    childhood...
    I have instant oatmeal -- partially because I want it now and
    partially because I'm the only one eating it. Add a bunch of raisins (it's probably closer to three raisins per spoonful), boil the water -- this plumps up the raisins a bit as well as warms them up, pour in a
    pouch of a flavoured oatmeal (but not the 'cream and' option as too sweet), add a pour of the instant oatmeal from the canister
    (unflavoured) because I want more than just the pouchworth and cuts the flavour.
    You can do the same thing, in about the same time, or maybe even
    less, by putting the water, raisins and regular oatmeal in a bowl
    in the microwave... that's how I do it now... :)

    Um, I'm trying to keep my stove skills intact?! (see earlier <g>)


    Rarely will I add butter; never added milk. Admittedly never
    tried - parents didn't, don't recall any friends having it that way
    when growing up but then not there for breakfast.
    It's probably a Scottish thing... milk on the oat porridge.... :)

    Possibly - a little surprised Dad didn't (his mother was Scottish).
    Seems he usually had cereal or peanut butter toast.


    And no one has marketed 'Tropical Milk'?!
    Now they might... but not just pass it off as regular milk... At one
    point, it was actually listed in the acceptable to be added to milk
    list... that may have changed by now...
    I had not heard previously about adding coconut oil to milk but didn't
    come as a huge surprise. Know cow's milk isn't the the best available
    for humans -- forgot what was most comparable -- so possibly adding
    coconut oil helped.
    I don't think that it was any help at all, really.... coconut oil is
    even harder to digest, at least for some people.... :) I think that
    it's goat's milk that is more comparable to human milk...
    The additives keep getting worse!
    Actually, the trend has turned some... Fewer things have
    additives than it had been getting to be... and it can be a point
    of pride (and advertising) that there are no additives....

    True. Have noted that advertising, no transfats, and the like. My
    grocery shopping generally isn't influenced as not purchasing the items,
    though in some instances a don't care: the vegetable-flavoured Ritz-like crackers are on sale - yummy! No idea what the ingredients are.

    And there is some shopping bias on this side: both of us shop, generally independently, and generally specific areas of items like cottage cheese
    but never the eggs unless ask because they're on sale. Though
    occasionally we both cross over now we have two pints of sour cream!


    A regional milk cooperative (Upstate Milk) sells various flavored
    milks in plastic pint bottles.... chocolate, mocha, strawberry,
    cappuchino, and seasonal flavors such as mint chocolate chip,
    eggnog, pumpkin spice, etc...
    I don't recall seeing those 'wild' flavours out here, but then I'm
    not all that into milk. The egg nog has been out for a few grocery
    trips -- as much as I love egg nog I'm avoiding buying any until at
    least the first of December to make it a little more special.
    Commercial eggnog seems to have some additives that don't agree with
    me, unfortunately.... I do like it, though, at least in small
    quantities, when made fresh... :)
    I haven't had homemade egg nog in I don't know how long, and since I'm
    the only one who does like it -- not sure if Autumn likes it or not,
    and her tastes vary periodically. Anyway, back to the egg nog, wonder
    if the additive is apple-based or something else?
    I doubt it would be apple-based.... might be some sort of
    preservative, though.... So, have you bought any this season yet...?
    Not yet. Last week's trip was on the 5th, so my "eggnog in December
    rule" would have been in effect. A few extras in the cart and my
    Scottish Guy wasn't liking the little added expense. Tomorrow he'll probably open his rusty coin purse. <g>
    As it's well into the Christmas season now, I'd think you'd be
    able to just override him at this point.... <G>

    Yup: a later post reported the purchase. Don't recall if I mentioned but
    the Scottish Guy was even happy at the seasonal splurge: if I spent a
    dollar extra I could get twice as much!


    ... Forbidden fruit is responsible for many a bad jam.
    Yes -- I'm recalling it more as a saying than tagline.
    A lot of taglines are nothing more than old sayings... :)
    And here I was thinking saying are nothing more than old taglines!
    Considering that generally they've been around a lot longer than
    taglines have existed.... <G>
    Plus not subject to the 72 (or is it 75?) character limit!
    I think BlueWave's is 72 (tho I'd have to check to be sure), and Multimail's limit is a little longer....

    Yes, plus there's a standard in the rules because of the way packets
    were sent originally, IIRC. Whenever I add new taglines (and it's been
    a while!) I note the longest existing tagline and use that as my
    measurement.



    Barry_Martin_3@
    @Q.COM



    ... I came up with a great tagline, but it wouldn't fit! :(
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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Tue Dec 31 18:10:12 2019
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 21-Dec-2019 09:39 <=-

    agreement: sure, the scientists have to increase the intake to simulate
    a lifetime of eating, but then people pick out certain portions of the
    study and it becomes 'eating <item> causes <result>'. Again, I'm not
    saying they're wrong, just the condensed report can make things look a
    lot worse than they really are.
    I tend to take those studies with a grain of salt... but then add to
    them my empirical observations... For instance, the ones on saccherine
    causing cancer, maybe, maybe not, but it does indeed cause major
    problems for me (causes migraines), so I'll avoid it totally...
    I'm with you: seems everything causes something. I'm not making light
    of the studies, and I think we can eat, do and not do lifestyle
    options, etc., to minimize the chances of getting sick/a disease. I
    think some of the diseases are occurring just because humans are living longer.

    That last is quite possible... Of course, genetics plays into both the
    living longer and how one's body reacts to the various factors....

    OTOH there are changes because of lifestyle: my Mother pointed
    out there are a lot of tall young people now - her generation and prior were shorter, she surmises because of food not being as readily
    available (due to the wars, harder to transport and store food, etc.).

    There could be some of that... there's also the part where people tend
    to shrink as they age, with the spine compressing... so the younger tend
    to seem even taller in comparison... :)

    As for staying away from saccherine because of migraines, yes, I would too! I haven't pinpointed to the specifics but there are some foods
    which give me slight faint 'odd' flavour and others shortly later a generalized itch/tingling (again weakly). At this point not enough to
    do anything to find the commonality and so the source.

    When it happens with frequency and/or severity, one does tend to figure
    out the source more easily... :)

    As we've become older, we just don't have the capacity we once
    had.... ;)
    And combine with being more sedentary so one doesn't burn off calories
    as quickly as when was younger.
    There's a little of that, too... but not something that really plays
    into our thinking... mostly it's just that our eating habits have
    shifted.... :)
    If it makes more sense why not? In my book there's nothing to prevent
    one from having cereal for the evening meal and meatloaf for the one
    first thing in the morning. All a matter of convenience and probably
    more so appetite.

    Exactly. :)

    I intended to become more familiar with spices, or just cooking in
    general, as I got older: figured would have more time, etc. Now I do
    very little cooking as don't have the opportunity.
    If it's something you are interested in, sometimes one just has to
    make the time and opportunity... :)
    I'm making dinner!
    Where are we going?
    No, I'm _making_ dinner.
    <faint>

    And when she comes to, dinner is on the table... ;)

    Oatmeal here would have raisins cooked into it, and topped with
    brown sugar and cinnamon.... probably a pat of butter as well, and
    often with milk... Comfort food from my childhood...
    I have instant oatmeal -- partially because I want it now and
    partially because I'm the only one eating it. Add a bunch of raisins
    (it's probably closer to three raisins per spoonful), boil the water --
    this plumps up the raisins a bit as well as warms them up, pour in a
    pouch of a flavoured oatmeal (but not the 'cream and' option as too
    sweet), add a pour of the instant oatmeal from the canister
    (unflavoured) because I want more than just the pouchworth and cuts the
    flavour.
    You can do the same thing, in about the same time, or maybe even less,
    by putting the water, raisins and regular oatmeal in a bowl in the
    microwave... that's how I do it now... :)
    Um, I'm trying to keep my stove skills intact?! (see earlier <g>)

    Then you might as well be making oatmeal from the regular or steel-cut
    oats... ;)

    Rarely will I add butter; never added milk. Admittedly never
    tried - parents didn't, don't recall any friends having it that way
    when growing up but then not there for breakfast.
    It's probably a Scottish thing... milk on the oat porridge.... :)
    Possibly - a little surprised Dad didn't (his mother was Scottish).
    Seems he usually had cereal or peanut butter toast.

    Maybe he'd had too much oatmeal forced on him growing up....??

    I don't think that it was any help at all, really.... coconut oil is
    even harder to digest, at least for some people.... :) I think that
    it's goat's milk that is more comparable to human milk...
    The additives keep getting worse!
    Actually, the trend has turned some... Fewer things have additives
    than it had been getting to be... and it can be a point of pride (and
    advertising) that there are no additives....
    True. Have noted that advertising, no transfats, and the like. My grocery shopping generally isn't influenced as not purchasing the
    items, though in some instances a don't care: the vegetable-flavoured Ritz-like crackers are on sale - yummy! No idea what the ingredients
    are.

    If you figured out what was giving you the issues, you'd be reading the
    labels like I have to... ;)

    And there is some shopping bias on this side: both of us shop,
    generally independently, and generally specific areas of items like cottage cheese but never the eggs unless ask because they're on sale. Though occasionally we both cross over now we have two pints of sour cream!

    We shop together, so that's less likely to happen... :)

    I haven't had homemade egg nog in I don't know how long, and since I'm
    the only one who does like it -- not sure if Autumn likes it or not,
    and her tastes vary periodically.
    So, have you bought any this season yet...?
    Not yet. Last week's trip was on the 5th, so my "eggnog in December
    rule" would have been in effect. A few extras in the cart and my
    Scottish Guy wasn't liking the little added expense. Tomorrow he'll
    probably open his rusty coin purse. <g>
    As it's well into the Christmas season now, I'd think you'd be able
    to just override him at this point.... <G>
    Yup: a later post reported the purchase. Don't recall if I mentioned
    but the Scottish Guy was even happy at the seasonal splurge: if I spent
    a dollar extra I could get twice as much!

    There you go... everybody happy... ;) My niece made up some eggnog for
    our family celebration... very frothy, and quite nice.... She had some
    that was plain, and some that she'd added vodka to... Some people took
    the plain and added some rum to it... that was even better... ;)

    A lot of taglines are nothing more than old sayings... :)
    And here I was thinking saying are nothing more than old taglines!
    Considering that generally they've been around a lot longer than
    taglines have existed.... <G>
    Plus not subject to the 72 (or is it 75?) character limit!
    I think BlueWave's is 72 (tho I'd have to check to be sure), and
    Multimail's limit is a little longer....
    Yes, plus there's a standard in the rules because of the way packets
    were sent originally, IIRC. Whenever I add new taglines (and it's
    been a while!) I note the longest existing tagline and use that as my measurement.

    When one adopts a tagline in Bluewave, the popup box has a space for the tagline... anything too long just gets chopped off at the end of it...
    At least a couple of times I saved it anyway (see below for an example)...

    ... I came up with a great tagline, but it wouldn't fit! :(

    That's when one has to use one's editorial skills... <G>

    ttyl neb

    ... Horse sense is the thing a horse has which keeps it from betting on pe

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Wed Jan 1 08:51:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    Happy New Year! :)

    agreement: sure, the scientists have to increase the intake to simulate
    a lifetime of eating, but then people pick out certain portions of the
    study and it becomes 'eating <item> causes <result>'. Again, I'm not
    saying they're wrong, just the condensed report can make things look a
    lot worse than they really are.
    I tend to take those studies with a grain of salt... but then add to
    them my empirical observations... For instance, the ones on saccherine
    causing cancer, maybe, maybe not, but it does indeed cause major
    problems for me (causes migraines), so I'll avoid it totally...
    I'm with you: seems everything causes something. I'm not making light
    of the studies, and I think we can eat, do and not do lifestyle
    options, etc., to minimize the chances of getting sick/a disease. I
    think some of the diseases are occurring just because humans are living longer.
    That last is quite possible... Of course, genetics plays into
    both the living longer and how one's body reacts to the various factors....

    True: lots of 'little' factors all adding up - and in some instances subtracting.


    OTOH there are changes because of lifestyle: my Mother pointed
    out there are a lot of tall young people now - her generation and prior were shorter, she surmises because of food not being as readily
    available (due to the wars, harder to transport and store food, etc.).
    There could be some of that... there's also the part where people
    tend to shrink as they age, with the spine compressing... so the
    younger tend to seem even taller in comparison... :)

    My Mother has shrunk, so yes, some people do tower over her.


    As for staying away from saccherine because of migraines, yes, I would too! I haven't pinpointed to the specifics but there are some foods
    which give me slight faint 'odd' flavour and others shortly later a generalized itch/tingling (again weakly). At this point not enough to
    do anything to find the commonality and so the source.
    When it happens with frequency and/or severity, one does tend to
    figure out the source more easily... :)

    Though probably helped you didn't use an artificial sweetener in your
    morning coffee, an ingredient in your Tootie Frootie cereal, etc.


    As we've become older, we just don't have the capacity we once
    had.... ;)
    And combine with being more sedentary so one doesn't burn off calories
    as quickly as when was younger.
    There's a little of that, too... but not something that really plays
    into our thinking... mostly it's just that our eating habits have
    shifted.... :)
    If it makes more sense why not? In my book there's nothing to prevent
    one from having cereal for the evening meal and meatloaf for the one
    first thing in the morning. All a matter of convenience and probably
    more so appetite.
    Exactly. :)

    And meatloaf sounds much better to me than sugar-infused Tootie
    Frooties.



    I intended to become more familiar with spices, or just cooking in
    general, as I got older: figured would have more time, etc. Now I do
    very little cooking as don't have the opportunity.
    If it's something you are interested in, sometimes one just has to
    make the time and opportunity... :)
    I'm making dinner!
    Where are we going?
    No, I'm _making_ dinner.
    <faint>
    And when she comes to, dinner is on the table... ;)

    And all over the stove, the walls.... <ggg>



    Rarely will I add butter; never added milk. Admittedly never
    tried - parents didn't, don't recall any friends having it that way
    when growing up but then not there for breakfast.
    It's probably a Scottish thing... milk on the oat porridge.... :)
    Possibly - a little surprised Dad didn't (his mother was Scottish).
    Seems he usually had cereal or peanut butter toast.
    Maybe he'd had too much oatmeal forced on him growing up....??

    I don't recall him ever mentioning. Or just didn't like the flavour / preferred the taste of cereal.


    I don't think that it was any help at all, really.... coconut oil is
    even harder to digest, at least for some people.... :) I think that
    it's goat's milk that is more comparable to human milk...
    The additives keep getting worse!
    Actually, the trend has turned some... Fewer things have additives
    than it had been getting to be... and it can be a point of pride (and
    advertising) that there are no additives....
    True. Have noted that advertising, no transfats, and the like. My grocery shopping generally isn't influenced as not purchasing the
    items, though in some instances a don't care: the vegetable-flavoured Ritz-like crackers are on sale - yummy! No idea what the ingredients
    are.
    If you figured out what was giving you the issues, you'd be
    reading the labels like I have to... ;)

    Definitely!



    I haven't had homemade egg nog in I don't know how long, and since I'm
    the only one who does like it -- not sure if Autumn likes it or not,
    and her tastes vary periodically.
    So, have you bought any this season yet...?
    Not yet. Last week's trip was on the 5th, so my "eggnog in December
    rule" would have been in effect. A few extras in the cart and my
    Scottish Guy wasn't liking the little added expense. Tomorrow he'll
    probably open his rusty coin purse. <g>
    As it's well into the Christmas season now, I'd think you'd be able
    to just override him at this point.... <G>
    Yup: a later post reported the purchase. Don't recall if I mentioned
    but the Scottish Guy was even happy at the seasonal splurge: if I spent
    a dollar extra I could get twice as much!
    There you go... everybody happy... ;) My niece made up some
    eggnog for our family celebration... very frothy, and quite
    nice.... She had some that was plain, and some that she'd added
    vodka to... Some people took the plain and added some rum to
    it... that was even better... ;)

    Yes, to me the rum would be the alcohol of choice. I finished up my
    eggnog yesterday - December 31. No, not because of 'Eggnog December'
    just happened to finish the container. Also "had" to because on the
    container was the best by date of Dec. 31 - today it would have tasted
    bleah. <ggg> Didn't have any with alcohol this year: didn't have any
    in the evening.



    A lot of taglines are nothing more than old sayings... :)
    And here I was thinking saying are nothing more than old taglines!
    Considering that generally they've been around a lot longer than
    taglines have existed.... <G>
    Plus not subject to the 72 (or is it 75?) character limit!
    I think BlueWave's is 72 (tho I'd have to check to be sure), and
    Multimail's limit is a little longer....
    Yes, plus there's a standard in the rules because of the way packets
    were sent originally, IIRC. Whenever I add new taglines (and it's
    been a while!) I note the longest existing tagline and use that as my measurement.
    When one adopts a tagline in Bluewave, the popup box has a space
    for the tagline... anything too long just gets chopped off at the
    end of it... At least a couple of times I saved it anyway (see
    below for an example)...

    (moved up)
    ... Horse sense is the thing a horse has which keeps it from
    betting on pe

    Yes, I wouldn't want to bet on pee either, The 'pea' would make a tiny
    bit more sense. ...Hmm 'people' even more sense! And as you said
    below, a little editing is sometimes needed, so

    Horse sense: what a horse has which keeps it from betting on people.

    There! 69 characters!


    ... I came up with a great tagline, but it wouldn't fit! :(
    That's when one has to use one's editorial skills... <G>

    Such as...


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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Sat Jan 4 09:07:00 2020

    Hi Daryl!


    My Mother has shrunk, so yes, some people do tower over her.
    My Mom "shrunk" as she got older...and I have done likewise. I
    used to be 6'1" -- now, I'm 5'8". I think the shrinkage went to
    my belly and bottom. :P

    "Stand up straight"!! I've haven't noticeably lost any height but I've
    added to the width. :(


    Though probably helped you didn't use an artificial sweetener in your
    morning coffee, an ingredient in your Tootie Frootie cereal, etc.
    Not sure which would be the best. I've been drinking a half
    gallon of sweet tea a day, which has 25 grams of sugar per
    bottle. I looked for some diet tea, but it was "green", and that
    didn't sound appetizing at all.

    To me green tea has a lighter/less intense flavour compared to the other
    teas, though has been a while since I've had something other than a
    green tea, plus The Scotsman tends to have me reuse the teabags: half a cup/third of a cup? add some more hot water. I'll admit to drinking
    more for the warmth of the hot water, but drinking a cup of hot water
    doesn't sound appealing, unlike my chilled regular ice(d) water.


    And meatloaf sounds much better to me than sugar-infused Tootie
    Frooties.
    Same here. But, the tomato sauce tends to aggravate my reflux.
    So, I have limited my eating of Italian food lately.

    I'm not sure why the 'ketchup glaze' on meatloaf. Suppose a carryover
    from hamburger but a meatloaf is not a hamburger. Nothing wrong with
    ketchup glaze, just I generally like my meatloaf without.


    ... Headline: Experts Sure Dow Will Either Rise Or Decline.
    What was your first clue??!!

    It didn't stay the same!


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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Mon Jan 6 22:06:12 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 01-Jan-2020 08:51 <=-

    Happy New Year! :)

    And a belated same to you... ;)

    I tend to take those studies with a grain of salt... but then add to
    them my empirical observations... For instance, the ones on saccherine
    causing cancer, maybe, maybe not, but it does indeed cause major
    problems for me (causes migraines), so I'll avoid it totally...
    I'm with you: seems everything causes something. I'm not making light
    of the studies, and I think we can eat, do and not do lifestyle
    options, etc., to minimize the chances of getting sick/a disease. I
    think some of the diseases are occurring just because humans are living
    longer.
    That last is quite possible... Of course, genetics plays into both
    the living longer and how one's body reacts to the various factors...
    True: lots of 'little' factors all adding up - and in some instances subtracting.

    Yup.

    OTOH there are changes because of lifestyle: my Mother pointed
    out there are a lot of tall young people now - her generation and prior
    were shorter, she surmises because of food not being as readily
    available (due to the wars, harder to transport and store food, etc.).
    There could be some of that... there's also the part where people
    tend to shrink as they age, with the spine compressing... so the
    younger tend to seem even taller in comparison... :)
    My Mother has shrunk, so yes, some people do tower over her.

    Especially more than they used to do... :)

    As for staying away from saccherine because of migraines, yes, I would
    too! I haven't pinpointed to the specifics but there are some foods
    which give me slight faint 'odd' flavour and others shortly later a
    generalized itch/tingling (again weakly). At this point not enough to
    do anything to find the commonality and so the source.
    When it happens with frequency and/or severity, one does tend to
    figure out the source more easily... :)
    Though probably helped you didn't use an artificial sweetener in your morning coffee, an ingredient in your Tootie Frootie cereal, etc.

    At the time I figured it out, I'd been using more saccherin as a sugar substitute in a number of things, as I was on some sort of a diet...
    when I got a migraine from chewing a small piece of sugarless gum, it
    was pretty obvious what was causing it....

    mostly it's just that our eating habits have shifted.... :)
    If it makes more sense why not? In my book there's nothing to prevent
    one from having cereal for the evening meal and meatloaf for the one
    first thing in the morning. All a matter of convenience and probably
    more so appetite.
    Exactly. :)
    And meatloaf sounds much better to me than sugar-infused Tootie
    Frooties.

    Definitely.... :)

    I intended to become more familiar with spices, or just cooking in
    general, as I got older: figured would have more time, etc. Now I do
    very little cooking as don't have the opportunity.
    If it's something you are interested in, sometimes one just has to
    make the time and opportunity... :)
    I'm making dinner!
    Where are we going?
    No, I'm _making_ dinner.
    <faint>
    And when she comes to, dinner is on the table... ;)
    And all over the stove, the walls.... <ggg>

    You must have let Autumn help... <G>

    True. Have noted that advertising, no transfats, and the like. My
    grocery shopping generally isn't influenced as not purchasing the
    items, though in some instances a don't care: the vegetable-flavoured
    Ritz-like crackers are on sale - yummy! No idea what the ingredients
    are.
    If you figured out what was giving you the issues, you'd be reading
    the labels like I have to... ;)
    Definitely!

    And learning lots about the stuff you're eating (or not eating, for that matter)... ;)

    Scottish Guy wasn't liking the little added expense. Tomorrow he'll
    probably open his rusty coin purse. <g>
    As it's well into the Christmas season now, I'd think you'd be able
    to just override him at this point.... <G>
    Yup: a later post reported the purchase. Don't recall if I mentioned
    but the Scottish Guy was even happy at the seasonal splurge: if I spent
    a dollar extra I could get twice as much!
    There you go... everybody happy... ;) My niece made up some eggnog
    for our family celebration... very frothy, and quite nice.... She had
    some that was plain, and some that she'd added vodka to... Some people
    took the plain and added some rum to it... that was even better... ;)
    Yes, to me the rum would be the alcohol of choice. I finished up my eggnog yesterday - December 31. No, not because of 'Eggnog December'
    just happened to finish the container. Also "had" to because on the container was the best by date of Dec. 31 - today it would have tasted bleah. <ggg>

    Nah... it probably would have been fine... ;)

    Didn't have any with alcohol this year: didn't have any in the evening.

    Some people don't wait for evening... at least not at an all-day
    party... ;)

    Yes, plus there's a standard in the rules because of the way packets
    were sent originally, IIRC. Whenever I add new taglines (and it's
    been a while!) I note the longest existing tagline and use that as my
    measurement.
    When one adopts a tagline in Bluewave, the popup box has a space for
    the tagline... anything too long just gets chopped off at the end of
    it... At least a couple of times I saved it anyway (see below for an
    example)...
    ... Horse sense is the thing a horse has which keeps it from betting
    on pe
    Yes, I wouldn't want to bet on pee either, The 'pea' would make a
    tiny bit more sense. ...Hmm 'people' even more sense!

    Yup, that was my guess.... :)

    And as you said below, a little editing is sometimes needed, so

    Horse sense: what a horse has which keeps it from betting on people.

    There! 69 characters!

    Yup that worked.... And I snagged it without a problem... <G>

    ... I came up with a great tagline, but it wouldn't fit! :(
    That's when one has to use one's editorial skills... <G>
    Such as...

    Yup.... <G>

    ... Headline: Experts Sure Dow Will Either Rise Or Decline.

    Occasionally it stays the same, though.... ;)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to BARRY MARTIN on Mon Jan 6 12:51:00 2020
    Barry,

    "Stand up straight"!! I've haven't noticeably lost any height but I've BM>added to the width. :(

    I can use the insulation in certain areas. :P

    To me green tea has a lighter/less intense flavour compared to the other BM>teas, though has been a while since I've had something other than a
    green tea, plus The Scotsman tends to have me reuse the teabags: half a BM>cup/third of a cup? add some more hot water. I'll admit to drinking
    more for the warmth of the hot water, but drinking a cup of hot water BM>doesn't sound appealing, unlike my chilled regular ice(d) water.

    In talking to a friend last night, she said "Buy yourself a 12 pack of
    them. If you don't like it after one bottle, my boyfriend will take the
    rest". I may go back to flavored water.

    I'm not sure why the 'ketchup glaze' on meatloaf. Suppose a carryover BM>from hamburger but a meatloaf is not a hamburger. Nothing wrong with BM>ketchup glaze, just I generally like my meatloaf without.

    There will now be a 3 minute break from the keyboard for drooling. :P

    ... Headline: Experts Sure Dow Will Either Rise Or Decline.
    What was your first clue??!!

    It didn't stay the same!

    It's like "If that isn't profound, I don't know what is".

    Daryl


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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Tue Jan 7 08:27:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    OTOH there are changes because of lifestyle: my Mother pointed
    out there are a lot of tall young people now - her generation and prior
    were shorter, she surmises because of food not being as readily
    available (due to the wars, harder to transport and store food, etc.).
    There could be some of that... there's also the part where people
    tend to shrink as they age, with the spine compressing... so the
    younger tend to seem even taller in comparison... :)
    My Mother has shrunk, so yes, some people do tower over her.
    Especially more than they used to do... :)

    That too! ...Was thinking 'human growth spurts' might not be an
    uncommon thing: I seem to remember reading the armour worn by the
    knights in the Middle Ages being referred to as the size now worn by the average teenager. Something like that: did state people were shorter
    than currently.


    As for staying away from saccherine because of migraines, yes, I would
    too! I haven't pinpointed to the specifics but there are some foods
    which give me slight faint 'odd' flavour and others shortly later a
    generalized itch/tingling (again weakly). At this point not enough to
    do anything to find the commonality and so the source.
    When it happens with frequency and/or severity, one does tend to
    figure out the source more easily... :)
    Though probably helped you didn't use an artificial sweetener in your morning coffee, an ingredient in your Tootie Frootie cereal, etc.
    At the time I figured it out, I'd been using more saccherin as a
    sugar substitute in a number of things, as I was on some sort of
    a diet... when I got a migraine from chewing a small piece of
    sugarless gum, it was pretty obvious what was causing it....

    A bad tooth! <g> Yes, if you hadn't eaten for some time, were feeling
    fine, then popped in a piece of gum there does seem to be a correlation.
    I would probably try again with a different 'introduction': different /
    known non-headache-causing food, different led-in time, and try the gum experiment. OTOH if you already suspected a saccherin-induced migrane
    I'd say the result was conclusive.



    I intended to become more familiar with spices, or just cooking in
    general, as I got older: figured would have more time, etc. Now I do
    very little cooking as don't have the opportunity.
    If it's something you are interested in, sometimes one just has to
    make the time and opportunity... :)
    I'm making dinner!
    Where are we going?
    No, I'm _making_ dinner.
    <faint>
    And when she comes to, dinner is on the table... ;)
    And all over the stove, the walls.... <ggg>
    You must have let Autumn help... <G>

    Spread the blame? And fun?!


    True. Have noted that advertising, no transfats, and the like. My
    grocery shopping generally isn't influenced as not purchasing the
    items, though in some instances a don't care: the vegetable-flavoured
    Ritz-like crackers are on sale - yummy! No idea what the ingredients
    are.
    If you figured out what was giving you the issues, you'd be reading
    the labels like I have to... ;)
    Definitely!
    And learning lots about the stuff you're eating (or not eating,
    for that matter)... ;)

    Why am I thinking 'ignorance is bliss'? <g> Though as a partial defense
    I don't have any known issues to be wary of and I tend to eat reasonably healthy. Main exception is cookies. Not enough to be a problem to
    Cookie Monster.


    <egg nog>
    Didn't have any with alcohol this year: didn't have any in the evening.
    Some people don't wait for evening... at least not at an all-day
    party... ;)

    There's a country-western song "It's 5 o'clock Somewhere". :)


    Yes, plus there's a standard in the rules because of the way packets
    were sent originally, IIRC. Whenever I add new taglines (and it's
    been a while!) I note the longest existing tagline and use that as my
    measurement.
    When one adopts a tagline in Bluewave, the popup box has a space for
    the tagline... anything too long just gets chopped off at the end of
    it... At least a couple of times I saved it anyway (see below for an
    example)...
    ... Horse sense is the thing a horse has which keeps it from betting
    on pe
    Yes, I wouldn't want to bet on pee either, The 'pea' would make a
    tiny bit more sense. ...Hmm 'people' even more sense!
    Yup, that was my guess.... :)

    Wonder what it really is?!



    And as you said below, a little editing is sometimes needed, so
    Horse sense: what a horse has which keeps it from betting on people. There! 69 characters!
    Yup that worked.... And I snagged it without a problem... <G>

    Hopefully 'people' was the correct answer! OTOH it seems to work. :)


    ... I came up with a great tagline, but it wouldn't fit! :(
    That's when one has to use one's editorial skills... <G>
    Such as...
    Yup.... <G>
    ... Headline: Experts Sure Dow Will Either Rise Or Decline.
    Occasionally it stays the same, though.... ;)

    It does, but no time length was specified.


    ... Appetisers are those little bits you eat until you lose your
    appetite.

    Plus sounded more appealing than "filler-uppers".



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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Tue Jan 7 08:27:00 2020

    Hi Daryl!

    "Stand up straight"!! I've haven't noticeably lost any height but I've
    added to the width. :(
    I can use the insulation in certain areas. :P

    As long as we don't start to call you fat head!


    To me green tea has a lighter/less intense flavour compared to the other
    teas, though has been a while since I've had something other than a
    green tea, plus The Scotsman tends to have me reuse the teabags: half a
    cup/third of a cup? add some more hot water. I'll admit to drinking
    more for the warmth of the hot water, but drinking a cup of hot water
    doesn't sound appealing, unlike my chilled regular ice(d) water.
    In talking to a friend last night, she said "Buy yourself a 12
    pack of them. If you don't like it after one bottle, my boyfriend
    will take the rest". I may go back to flavored water.

    That sounds like a can't-fail offer until one realizes the boyfriend
    will take the rest had no mention of money! <g>

    I'm not so sure I'd buy bottled green tea. I generally have it as hot
    tea in winter to help warm up plus sip something. Have also thrown a
    tea bag in the bottom of a glass, add ice and water -- mainly to give a
    change to the plain water I've been drinking in summer. It's okaaay....


    I'm not sure why the 'ketchup glaze' on meatloaf. Suppose a carryover
    from hamburger but a meatloaf is not a hamburger. Nothing wrong with
    ketchup glaze, just I generally like my meatloaf without.
    There will now be a 3 minute break from the keyboard for
    drooling. :P

    And while we're waiting, does the name 'Pavlov' ring a bell? <rs!>

    (I have a cartoon with a Salvation Arm bell ringer and two dogs, one of
    whom is slobbering furiously. Caption is something like "Joe, can't you control yourself?".)


    ... Headline: Experts Sure Dow Will Either Rise Or Decline.
    What was your first clue??!!
    It didn't stay the same!
    It's like "If that isn't profound, I don't know what is".

    Nancy did put in the consideration it sometimes stays the same. Trying
    to get a joke together about how the Nobel Peace Prize was created by
    the guy who invented dynamite.



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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to BARRY MARTIN on Thu Jan 9 16:02:00 2020
    Hi Daryl!

    Barry,

    I can use the insulation in certain areas. :P

    As long as we don't start to call you fat head!

    Sort of like the episode of "The Flintstones", where Fred and Barney
    were after the Snorkasaurus (aka Dino). In drawing the creature, Fred
    starts with "the head is kind of fat", and Dino replies "Look who's
    talking about a fat head"!! <G>

    That sounds like a can't-fail offer until one realizes the boyfriend
    will take the rest had no mention of money! <g>

    They made out like a bandit over Christmas. I gave them a blender, a convection oven, and a toaster, that hadn't been used. Then, I bought
    treats for their weiner dog. My present was that train trip next July.

    I'm not so sure I'd buy bottled green tea. I generally have it as hot BM>tea in winter to help warm up plus sip something. Have also thrown a
    tea bag in the bottom of a glass, add ice and water -- mainly to give a BM>change to the plain water I've been drinking in summer. It's okaaay....

    That settles it. I'll skip it. But, as they say "if it tastes good,
    spit it out...it's bad for you". :P

    And while we're waiting, does the name 'Pavlov' ring a bell? <rs!>

    The dogs tail is hitting it.

    (I have a cartoon with a Salvation Arm bell ringer and two dogs, one of BM>whom is slobbering furiously. Caption is something like "Joe, can't you BM>control yourself?".)

    LOL!!

    Nancy did put in the consideration it sometimes stays the same. Trying BM>to get a joke together about how the Nobel Peace Prize was created by
    the guy who invented dynamite.

    Really.

    Daryl


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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to BARRY MARTIN on Thu Jan 9 16:13:00 2020
    Barry,


    There's a country-western song "It's 5 o'clock Somewhere". :)

    Yep...Jimmy Buffet (Margaritaville) and someone else, whose name
    escapes me offhand.

    ... Appetisers are those little bits you eat until you lose your appetite.

    Plus sounded more appealing than "filler-uppers".

    Really. It fills up the restaurant account, but drains your wallet.

    Daryl


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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Sat Jan 11 08:59:00 2020

    Hi Daryl!

    I can use the insulation in certain areas. :P
    As long as we don't start to call you fat head!
    Sort of like the episode of "The Flintstones", where Fred and
    Barney were after the Snorkasaurus (aka Dino). In drawing the
    creature, Fred starts with "the head is kind of fat", and Dino
    replies "Look who's talking about a fat head"!! <G>

    <chuckle> I haven't seen the Flintstones since I don't know when; know they're on one of the retro stations like MeTV or Antenna TV, just other
    things taking up time.


    That sounds like a can't-fail offer until one realizes the boyfriend
    will take the rest had no mention of money! <g>
    They made out like a bandit over Christmas. I gave them a
    blender, a convection oven, and a toaster, that hadn't been used.
    Then, I bought treats for their weiner dog. My present was that
    train trip next July.

    Sounds like everyone did well! :)



    I'm not so sure I'd buy bottled green tea. I generally have it as hot
    tea in winter to help warm up plus sip something. Have also thrown a
    tea bag in the bottom of a glass, add ice and water -- mainly to give a
    change to the plain water I've been drinking in summer. It's okaaay....
    That settles it. I'll skip it. But, as they say "if it tastes
    good, spit it out...it's bad for you". :P

    <snortle> Almost!! Did purchase another box of green tea the other day;
    while getting my list together was considering a variety pack of some
    sort but was 'lucky' to find the tea section: the store is being
    remodelled and seems like half the store has been moved around to get
    ready for another section. Was kidding with one of the
    manager/supervisors: "worst case of shoplifting I've ever seen over in
    Aisle 2: they took the floor, they took the fixtures...".


    And while we're waiting, does the name 'Pavlov' ring a bell? <rs!>
    The dogs tail is hitting it.

    Oh that would be bad!!




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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Sat Jan 11 08:59:00 2020

    Hi Daryl!


    There's a country-western song "It's 5 o'clock Somewhere". :)
    Yep...Jimmy Buffet (Margaritaville) and someone else, whose
    name escapes me offhand.

    Alan Jackson. (I've heard the song but did have to look up who sang
    it.)


    ... Appetisers are those little bits you eat until you lose your appetite.
    Plus sounded more appealing than "filler-uppers".

    That is true.... Name it something in French and it sounds so haute
    cusine. Hmm, not so sure that description was right. <g>


    Really. It fills up the restaurant account, but drains your
    wallet.

    I'm remembering some time back for some reason suddenly people dining
    out at the medium-level restaurants stopped ordering pop and coffee with
    their meals and just had water. Water was free; the pop and coffee was
    (say) $3 but cost the restaurant only $1, so a loss of profit, plus the waiter/waitress/server lost some tip as the meal total was lessened.




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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Mon Jan 13 03:09:32 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 07-Jan-2020 08:27 <=-

    OTOH there are changes because of lifestyle: my Mother pointed
    out there are a lot of tall young people now - her generation and prior
    were shorter, she surmises because of food not being as readily
    available (due to the wars, harder to transport and store food, etc.).
    There could be some of that... there's also the part where people
    tend to shrink as they age, with the spine compressing... so the
    younger tend to seem even taller in comparison... :)
    My Mother has shrunk, so yes, some people do tower over her.
    Especially more than they used to do... :)
    That too! ...Was thinking 'human growth spurts' might not be an
    uncommon thing: I seem to remember reading the armour worn by the
    knights in the Middle Ages being referred to as the size now worn by
    the average teenager. Something like that: did state people were
    shorter than currently.

    Probably multiple factors playing into that aspect of people getting
    taller in general... still quite a few rather short ones, though, so it
    isn't a full rule....

    As for staying away from saccherine because of migraines, yes, I would
    too! I haven't pinpointed to the specifics but there are some foods
    which give me slight faint 'odd' flavour and others shortly later a
    generalized itch/tingling (again weakly). At this point not enough to
    do anything to find the commonality and so the source.
    When it happens with frequency and/or severity, one does tend to
    figure out the source more easily... :)
    Though probably helped you didn't use an artificial sweetener in your
    morning coffee, an ingredient in your Tootie Frootie cereal, etc.
    At the time I figured it out, I'd been using more saccherin as a sugar
    substitute in a number of things, as I was on some sort of a diet...
    when I got a migraine from chewing a small piece of sugarless gum, it
    was pretty obvious what was causing it....
    A bad tooth! <g> Yes, if you hadn't eaten for some time, were feeling fine, then popped in a piece of gum there does seem to be a
    correlation. I would probably try again with a different
    'introduction': different / known non-headache-causing food, different led-in time, and try the gum experiment. OTOH if you already suspected
    a saccherin-induced migrane I'd say the result was conclusive.

    By the time the small piece of gum triggered it, I'd already stopped
    using regular foods sweetened with saccherine... the larger quantities
    were pretty conclusive as it was... the gum just clinched it...

    I intended to become more familiar with spices, or just cooking in
    general, as I got older: figured would have more time, etc. Now I do
    very little cooking as don't have the opportunity.
    If it's something you are interested in, sometimes one just has to
    make the time and opportunity... :)
    I'm making dinner!
    Where are we going?
    No, I'm _making_ dinner.
    <faint>
    And when she comes to, dinner is on the table... ;)
    And all over the stove, the walls.... <ggg>
    You must have let Autumn help... <G>
    Spread the blame? And fun?!

    Exactly... <G>

    True. Have noted that advertising, no transfats, and the like. My
    grocery shopping generally isn't influenced as not purchasing the
    items, though in some instances a don't care: the vegetable-flavoured
    Ritz-like crackers are on sale - yummy! No idea what the ingredients
    are.
    If you figured out what was giving you the issues, you'd be reading
    the labels like I have to... ;)
    Definitely!
    And learning lots about the stuff you're eating (or not eating, for
    that matter)... ;)
    Why am I thinking 'ignorance is bliss'? <g> Though as a partial
    defense I don't have any known issues to be wary of and I tend to eat reasonably healthy. Main exception is cookies. Not enough to be a problem to Cookie Monster.

    True... the more one reads labels, the less one wants to have much to do
    with the heavily processed foods.... :)

    <egg nog>
    Didn't have any with alcohol this year: didn't have any in the evening.
    Some people don't wait for evening... at least not at an all-day
    party... ;)
    There's a country-western song "It's 5 o'clock Somewhere". :)

    Yup.... :)

    When one adopts a tagline in Bluewave, the popup box has a space for
    the tagline... anything too long just gets chopped off at the end of
    it... At least a couple of times I saved it anyway (see below for an
    example)...
    ... Horse sense is the thing a horse has which keeps it from betting
    on pe
    Yes, I wouldn't want to bet on pee either, The 'pea' would make a
    tiny bit more sense. ...Hmm 'people' even more sense!
    Yup, that was my guess.... :)
    Wonder what it really is?!
    And as you said below, a little editing is sometimes needed, so
    Horse sense: what a horse has which keeps it from betting on people.
    There! 69 characters!
    Yup that worked.... And I snagged it without a problem... <G>
    Hopefully 'people' was the correct answer! OTOH it seems to work. :)

    Actually, as I seem to recall, the original was indeed 'people'... which
    made enough sense that I wanted to snag that tagline, only to find out
    that it was too long by by 4 characters....

    ... Appetisers are those little bits you eat until you lose your
    appetite.
    Plus sounded more appealing than "filler-uppers".

    True....

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Mon Jan 13 08:11:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    OTOH there are changes because of lifestyle: my Mother pointed
    out there are a lot of tall young people now - her generation and prior
    were shorter, she surmises because of food not being as readily
    available (due to the wars, harder to transport and store food, etc.).
    There could be some of that... there's also the part where people
    tend to shrink as they age, with the spine compressing... so the
    younger tend to seem even taller in comparison... :)
    My Mother has shrunk, so yes, some people do tower over her.
    Especially more than they used to do... :)
    That too! ...Was thinking 'human growth spurts' might not be an
    uncommon thing: I seem to remember reading the armour worn by the
    knights in the Middle Ages being referred to as the size now worn by
    the average teenager. Something like that: did state people were
    shorter than currently.
    Probably multiple factors playing into that aspect of people
    getting taller in general... still quite a few rather short ones,
    though, so it isn't a full rule....

    Shorter humans might be at an advantage: they can hide amongst the tall
    ones!!



    As for staying away from saccherine because of migraines, yes, I would
    too! I haven't pinpointed to the specifics but there are some foods
    which give me slight faint 'odd' flavour and others shortly later a
    generalized itch/tingling (again weakly). At this point not enough to
    do anything to find the commonality and so the source.
    When it happens with frequency and/or severity, one does tend to
    figure out the source more easily... :)
    Though probably helped you didn't use an artificial sweetener in your
    morning coffee, an ingredient in your Tootie Frootie cereal, etc.
    At the time I figured it out, I'd been using more saccherin as a sugar
    substitute in a number of things, as I was on some sort of a diet...
    when I got a migraine from chewing a small piece of sugarless gum, it
    was pretty obvious what was causing it....
    A bad tooth! <g> Yes, if you hadn't eaten for some time, were feeling fine, then popped in a piece of gum there does seem to be a
    correlation. I would probably try again with a different
    'introduction': different / known non-headache-causing food, different led-in time, and try the gum experiment. OTOH if you already suspected
    a saccherin-induced migrane I'd say the result was conclusive.
    By the time the small piece of gum triggered it, I'd already
    stopped using regular foods sweetened with saccherine... the
    larger quantities were pretty conclusive as it was... the gum
    just clinched it...

    That does seem rather conclusive!


    I intended to become more familiar with spices, or just cooking in
    general, as I got older: figured would have more time, etc. Now I do
    very little cooking as don't have the opportunity.
    If it's something you are interested in, sometimes one just has to
    make the time and opportunity... :)
    I'm making dinner!
    Where are we going?
    No, I'm _making_ dinner.
    <faint>
    And when she comes to, dinner is on the table... ;)
    And all over the stove, the walls.... <ggg>
    You must have let Autumn help... <G>
    Spread the blame? And fun?!
    Exactly... <G>

    LIS some tm back Autumn loves to eat pancakes and help with the
    preparation, especially the mixing part. She had a fascination with
    mixing the dry mix and sometimes got a little over-exuberant. Now she
    kind of sneaks that into the occasional overmixing of the batter.
    Rarely splatters, but sometimes that bowl starts to spin pretty good!

    She also gets to make a pancake: batter is poured into her special
    pitcher -- a metal creamer. She can make whatever size (well, not
    HUGE!), shape, pattern, etc., pancake she wants.


    True. Have noted that advertising, no transfats, and the like. My
    grocery shopping generally isn't influenced as not purchasing the
    items, though in some instances a don't care: the vegetable-flavoured
    Ritz-like crackers are on sale - yummy! No idea what the ingredients
    are.
    If you figured out what was giving you the issues, you'd be reading
    the labels like I have to... ;)
    Definitely!
    And learning lots about the stuff you're eating (or not eating, for
    that matter)... ;)
    Why am I thinking 'ignorance is bliss'? <g> Though as a partial
    defense I don't have any known issues to be wary of and I tend to eat reasonably healthy. Main exception is cookies. Not enough to be a problem to Cookie Monster.
    True... the more one reads labels, the less one wants to have
    much to do with the heavily processed foods.... :)

    Rule #1: Beware of long ingredient lists.
    Rule #2: Beware of ingredients with unpronounceable names.



    <egg nog>
    Didn't have any with alcohol this year: didn't have any in the evening.
    Some people don't wait for evening... at least not at an all-day
    party... ;)
    There's a country-western song "It's 5 o'clock Somewhere". :)
    Yup.... :)

    They play that on the PBS stations?!

    BTW, for some reason the Iowa Public Television network changed its name
    to IowaPBS the first of the year. Suppose has something to do with the
    costs of obtaining PBS programming.



    When one adopts a tagline in Bluewave, the popup box has a space for
    the tagline... anything too long just gets chopped off at the end of
    it... At least a couple of times I saved it anyway (see below for an
    example)...
    ... Horse sense is the thing a horse has which keeps it from betting
    on pe
    Yes, I wouldn't want to bet on pee either, The 'pea' would make a
    tiny bit more sense. ...Hmm 'people' even more sense!
    Yup, that was my guess.... :)
    Wonder what it really is?!
    And as you said below, a little editing is sometimes needed, so
    Horse sense: what a horse has which keeps it from betting on people.
    There! 69 characters!
    Yup that worked.... And I snagged it without a problem... <G>
    Hopefully 'people' was the correct answer! OTOH it seems to work. :)
    Actually, as I seem to recall, the original was indeed
    'people'... which made enough sense that I wanted to snag that
    tagline, only to find out that it was too long by by 4
    characters....

    When editing to fit I have sometimes left out letters: 'abt' originally
    being 'about'. Have also dropped spaces: after a colon or semi-colon is
    easy; between words not too bad as capitalize the first letter but can
    have a bit of a problem with single-letter words like "I" and "a".


    ... Appetisers are those little bits you eat until you lose your
    appetite.
    Plus sounded more appealing than "filler-uppers".

    And wait until one gets to "can of pee"!! (canape')


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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to BARRY MARTIN on Mon Jan 13 02:05:00 2020
    Barry,

    <chuckle> I haven't seen the Flintstones since I don't know when; know BM>they're on one of the retro stations like MeTV or Antenna TV, just other BM>things taking up time.

    The original cartoons are better than what they have nowadays.

    They made out like a bandit over Christmas. I gave them a
    blender, a convection oven, and a toaster, that hadn't been used.
    Then, I bought treats for their weiner dog. My present was that
    train trip next July.

    Sounds like everyone did well! :)

    I purchased travel insurance just in case.

    <snortle> Almost!! Did purchase another box of green tea the other day; BM>while getting my list together was considering a variety pack of some BM>sort but was 'lucky' to find the tea section: the store is being BM>remodelled and seems like half the store has been moved around to get BM>ready for another section. Was kidding with one of the BM>manager/supervisors: "worst case of shoplifting I've ever seen over in BM>Aisle 2: they took the floor, they took the fixtures...".

    LOL!! Reminds me of the deal where the husband and wife are arguing
    over what should be bought, and what should not be. I forget the
    "details", but the end result is an announcement "Husband Down In Aisle
    5" <G>.

    And while we're waiting, does the name 'Pavlov' ring a bell? <rs!>
    The dogs tail is hitting it.

    Oh that would be bad!!

    He was a dead ringer for a ding-a-ling. :P

    Daryl


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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to BARRY MARTIN on Mon Jan 13 02:08:00 2020
    Barry,

    There's a country-western song "It's 5 o'clock Somewhere". :)
    Yep...Jimmy Buffet (Margaritaville) and someone else, whose
    name escapes me offhand.

    Alan Jackson. (I've heard the song but did have to look up who sang
    it.)

    That's correct. The station played it a bit ago. Insomnia has me up
    doing QWK mail, but my eyes are starting to burn (no, I didn't fart!),
    and my back is starting to throb from sitting here. However, I want to
    finish the QWK Mail before I go back to bed...as other errands demand my attention later today.

    That is true.... Name it something in French and it sounds so haute BM>cusine. Hmm, not so sure that description was right. <g>

    What are French Fries called in France?? Paris Potatoes?? :P

    I'm remembering some time back for some reason suddenly people dining
    out at the medium-level restaurants stopped ordering pop and coffee with BM>their meals and just had water. Water was free; the pop and coffee was BM>(say) $3 but cost the restaurant only $1, so a loss of profit, plus the BM>waiter/waitress/server lost some tip as the meal total was lessened.

    Lots of folks order water now...and unfortunately, many are
    cheapskates.

    Daryl


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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to BARRY MARTIN on Tue Jan 14 12:24:00 2020
    Barry,

    Shorter humans might be at an advantage: they can hide amongst the tall BM>ones!!

    My late wife was (as she put it), "4 10 and a couple of decimal
    points").

    There's a country-western song "It's 5 o'clock Somewhere". :)
    Yup.... :)

    They play that on the PBS stations?!

    By Alan Jackson and Jimmy Buffet. I hear it on IHeartRadio.

    BTW, for some reason the Iowa Public Television network changed its name BM>to IowaPBS the first of the year. Suppose has something to do with the BM>costs of obtaining PBS programming.

    They're doing telethons several times a year, to raise money for
    programming, etc.

    And wait until one gets to "can of pee"!! (canape')

    There's a town in Florida called Micanopy.

    Daryl


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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Wed Jan 15 08:11:00 2020

    Hi Daryl!

    You'd be excited this morning: 32, drizzling, so icy. Even the in-town schools are on a delay. And tomorrow morning we're supposed to be
    waking up to around 8. ...And the weekend is chilly:
    Sat Jan 18: 38/-2 F Sun Jan 19: -0/-7 F



    <chuckle> I haven't seen the Flintstones since I don't know when; know
    they're on one of the retro stations like MeTV or Antenna TV, just other
    things taking up time.
    The original cartoons are better than what they have nowadays.

    In general I'll agree. Not watching any of the non-educational cartoons
    so nothing to compare. We used to watch _The Simpsons_; don't recall
    the reasoning for stopping. I used to watch _SouthPark_; stopped about
    the time they switched grades (3rd to 4th? Was years ago): the original swearing, etc., was almost too much but the plots were quirky.


    They made out like a bandit over Christmas. I gave them a
    blender, a convection oven, and a toaster, that hadn't been used. Then, I bought treats for their weiner dog. My present was that
    train trip next July.
    Sounds like everyone did well! :)
    I purchased travel insurance just in case.

    Hopefully a waste of money!


    <snortle> Almost!! Did purchase another box of green tea the other day;
    while getting my list together was considering a variety pack of some
    sort but was 'lucky' to find the tea section: the store is being
    remodelled and seems like half the store has been moved around to get
    ready for another section. Was kidding with one of the
    manager/supervisors: "worst case of shoplifting I've ever seen over in
    Aisle 2: they took the floor, they took the fixtures...".
    LOL!! Reminds me of the deal where the husband and wife are
    arguing over what should be bought, and what should not be. I
    forget the "details", but the end result is an announcement
    "Husband Down In Aisle 5" <G>.

    <chuckle> Just supposed to be cold tomorrow when I do my Thursday
    Morning meanderings, which includes a bit of grocery shopping. Wonder
    what surprises are in store? (Pun intended.)



    Barry_Martin_3@
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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Wed Jan 15 08:11:00 2020

    Hi Daryl!

    There's a country-western song "It's 5 o'clock Somewhere". :)
    Yep...Jimmy Buffet (Margaritaville) and someone else, whose
    name escapes me offhand.
    Alan Jackson. (I've heard the song but did have to look up who sang
    it.)
    That's correct. The station played it a bit ago. Insomnia has
    me up doing QWK mail, but my eyes are starting to burn (no, I
    didn't fart!), and my back is starting to throb from sitting
    here. However, I want to finish the QWK Mail before I go back to
    bed...as other errands demand my attention later today.

    I've had 'light sleeping nights' but not true insomnia. Sometimes it
    seems like one isn't sleeping but do doze off, so a series of naps. I
    might try getting up for a while, doing something not too energizing
    (QWK mail should be OK <g>), then go back to bed. Be sure to get any
    sleep interrupters out of the way: urinating, a sip of water if the
    throat is dry, etc. We sleep with a noisy fan to create white noise.


    That is true.... Name it something in French and it sounds so haute
    cusine. Hmm, not so sure that description was right. <g>
    What are French Fries called in France?? Paris Potatoes?? :P

    Just think what 'French Kissing' is called!



    I'm remembering some time back for some reason suddenly people dining
    out at the medium-level restaurants stopped ordering pop and coffee with
    their meals and just had water. Water was free; the pop and coffee was
    (say) $3 but cost the restaurant only $1, so a loss of profit, plus the
    waiter/waitress/server lost some tip as the meal total was lessened.
    Lots of folks order water now...and unfortunately, many are
    cheapskates.

    I tend to prefer water anyway: for the past umpteeen years have been
    drinking coffee only in the morning, winter will have tea mid-afternoon,
    rest of the day good ol' water on the rocks (with ice cubes). Generally
    don't "feel like" an alcoholic beverage (wine, mixed drink) and
    three-quarters of the places we go to don't serve alcohol anyway.



    Barry_Martin_3@
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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Wed Jan 15 08:11:00 2020

    Hi Daryl!

    Shorter humans might be at an advantage: they can hide amongst the tall
    ones!!
    My late wife was (as she put it), "4 10 and a couple of decimal points").

    My Mother is getting there!


    There's a country-western song "It's 5 o'clock Somewhere". :)
    Yup.... :)
    They play that on the PBS stations?!
    By Alan Jackson and Jimmy Buffet. I hear it on IHeartRadio.

    Yup, and it occasionally plays on my Pandora account.


    BTW, for some reason the Iowa Public Television network changed its name
    to IowaPBS the first of the year. Suppose has something to do with the
    costs of obtaining PBS programming.
    They're doing telethons several times a year, to raise money
    for programming, etc.

    Yes. Here in Iowa all the networked stations are owned by a board which
    is part of the state (something like that). They did do the fundraisers
    but some appeared to be more local. I'll admit some of the funraising programmes were interesting but the fundraiser itself not.


    And wait until one gets to "can of pee"!! (canape')
    There's a town in Florida called Micanopy.

    I bet people think more of it in four words than than two!


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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to BARRY MARTIN on Sat Jan 18 12:05:00 2020
    Barry,

    You'd be excited this morning: 32, drizzling, so icy. Even the in-town BM>schools are on a delay. And tomorrow morning we're supposed to be
    waking up to around 8. ...And the weekend is chilly:
    Sat Jan 18: 38/-2 F Sun Jan 19: -0/-7 F

    At least, you won't have insects to worry about. Stupid drivers are
    another matter. :P

    In general I'll agree. Not watching any of the non-educational cartoons BM>so nothing to compare. We used to watch _The Simpsons_; don't recall
    the reasoning for stopping. I used to watch _SouthPark_; stopped about BM>the time they switched grades (3rd to 4th? Was years ago): the original BM>swearing, etc., was almost too much but the plots were quirky.

    My main cartoons were:

    1) Looney Tunes (Bugs Bunny, Daffy Duck, Road Runner, Wile E. Coyote,
    Foghorn Leghorn, Porky Pig, Sylvester Cat, Tweety Pie, etc.).

    2) Hanna-Barbera (Pixie And Dixie (and Mr. Jinx), Quickdraw McGraw,
    Wally Gator, Touche' Turtle (and Dum-Dum), Huckleberry Hound, Yogi Bear,
    The Flintstones, Scooby Doo, Speed Buggy, Hong Kong Phooey, etc.)

    Yes, I'm showing my age. <G>

    I purchased travel insurance just in case.

    Hopefully a waste of money!

    It's like when you pack for a trip. You put everything AND the kitchen
    sink in the case...especially when it came to medicines.

    <chuckle> Just supposed to be cold tomorrow when I do my Thursday BM>Morning meanderings, which includes a bit of grocery shopping. Wonder BM>what surprises are in store? (Pun intended.)

    I've got to get some flavored water today. I may also get some bread
    and lunch meat.

    Daryl


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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to BARRY MARTIN on Sat Jan 18 12:08:00 2020
    Barry,

    I've had 'light sleeping nights' but not true insomnia. Sometimes it BM>seems like one isn't sleeping but do doze off, so a series of naps. I BM>might try getting up for a while, doing something not too energizing
    (QWK mail should be OK <g>), then go back to bed. Be sure to get any BM>sleep interrupters out of the way: urinating, a sip of water if the BM>throat is dry, etc. We sleep with a noisy fan to create white noise.

    I heard a deal on the radio this morning for Cal-Mag (combination calcium-magnesium powder that you pour in hot water and drink)...but I'd
    rather get health info and medicines direct from my personal physician.
    One of the things magnesium does is to help prevent constipation, but
    that's rare for me...and I do have Miralax for that purpose.

    What are French Fries called in France?? Paris Potatoes?? :P

    Just think what 'French Kissing' is called!

    That was more than a tongue in cheek remark. :P

    I tend to prefer water anyway: for the past umpteeen years have been BM>drinking coffee only in the morning, winter will have tea mid-afternoon, BM>rest of the day good ol' water on the rocks (with ice cubes). Generally BM>don't "feel like" an alcoholic beverage (wine, mixed drink) and BM>three-quarters of the places we go to don't serve alcohol anyway.

    To me, plain water is too bland and tepid. I have to have flavored
    water. But, if I drink too much liquid, no matter what beverage, I go
    into severe diarrhea, as it's too much water for my colon to absorb.

    Daryl


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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Sun Jan 19 09:06:00 2020

    Hi Daryl!

    You'd be excited this morning: 32, drizzling, so icy. Even the in-town
    schools are on a delay. And tomorrow morning we're supposed to be
    waking up to around 8. ...And the weekend is chilly:
    Sat Jan 18: 38/-2 F Sun Jan 19: -0/-7 F
    At least, you won't have insects to worry about. Stupid drivers
    are another matter. :P

    Haven't seen any insects for some time. Cleaning a bit in the basement
    and have found a few dead ones.



    In general I'll agree. Not watching any of the non-educational cartoons
    so nothing to compare. We used to watch _The Simpsons_; don't recall
    the reasoning for stopping. I used to watch _SouthPark_; stopped about
    the time they switched grades (3rd to 4th? Was years ago): the original
    swearing, etc., was almost too much but the plots were quirky.
    My main cartoons were:
    1) Looney Tunes (Bugs Bunny, Daffy Duck, Road Runner, Wile E.
    Coyote, Foghorn Leghorn, Porky Pig, Sylvester Cat, Tweety Pie,
    etc.).

    All good ones.


    2) Hanna-Barbera (Pixie And Dixie (and Mr. Jinx), Quickdraw
    McGraw, Wally Gator, Touche' Turtle (and Dum-Dum), Huckleberry
    Hound, Yogi Bear, The Flintstones, Scooby Doo, Speed Buggy, Hong
    Kong Phooey, etc.)

    Hmmm:
    Pixie And Dixie (and Mr. Jinx) -- Don't recognize at all
    Quickdraw McGraw -- remember him
    Wally Gator, Touche' Turtle (and Dum-Dum) -- maybe Wally, other no
    Huckleberry Hound, Yogi Bear, The Flintstones, Scooby Doo -- if one
    doesn't recognize these they've been living under a rock!
    Speed Buggy, Hong Kong Phooey, etc. -- Back to not recognizing these
    guys.


    Yes, I'm showing my age. <G>

    Well the Flintstones are back on one of the retro TV channels, so a
    whole new generation might be appreciating them. Maybe the others will
    return too.


    I purchased travel insurance just in case.
    Hopefully a waste of money!
    It's like when you pack for a trip. You put everything AND the
    kitchen sink in the case...especially when it came to medicines.

    Medicines are different from clothing. Well, I'm thinking prescribed medications; if one has frequent headaches or body aches bringing alonh aspirin, etc., probably a good idea. If OTOH it's packed just in case
    I'd say excess. 15 shirts for a three day weekend is excess -- unless
    one is some sort of show or modelling.


    <chuckle> Just supposed to be cold tomorrow when I do my Thursday
    Morning meanderings, which includes a bit of grocery shopping. Wonder
    what surprises are in store? (Pun intended.)
    I've got to get some flavored water today. I may also get some
    bread and lunch meat.

    "It was interesting": lots of things moved, floor tile had been removed
    in most of the aisles. The liquor store (attached) was in-progress of
    being moved next door so the grocery store portion could expand into it.
    Was kind of funny: some guy walked in (from the grocery store entrance)
    with his cart and the just stopped and looked around, then walked away.
    About the middle third of the liquor store was empty, the front third
    had partially stocked shelves, the back third looked to be filled with
    carts filled with liquor bottles.



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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Sun Jan 19 09:06:00 2020

    Hi Daryl!

    I've had 'light sleeping nights' but not true insomnia. Sometimes it
    seems like one isn't sleeping but do doze off, so a series of naps. I
    might try getting up for a while, doing something not too energizing
    (QWK mail should be OK <g>), then go back to bed. Be sure to get any
    sleep interrupters out of the way: urinating, a sip of water if the
    throat is dry, etc. We sleep with a noisy fan to create white noise.
    I heard a deal on the radio this morning for Cal-Mag
    (combination calcium-magnesium powder that you pour in hot water
    and drink)...but I'd rather get health info and medicines direct
    from my personal physician. One of the things magnesium does is
    to help prevent constipation, but that's rare for me...and I do
    have Miralax for that purpose.

    Yes, one does want to be cautious of not keeping everything balanced.
    Most of my medical doctors have wanted either the actual bottle or a
    list of all supplements, etc., because of a possibility of interaction
    or just plain too much. After I fractured my femur I was prescribed
    calcium and Vitamin D. A year or two later another blood test was taken
    and found I had too much Vitamin D circulating so told to reduce that. (Follow-up draw showed I was back to normal levels.)



    What are French Fries called in France?? Paris Potatoes?? :P
    Just think what 'French Kissing' is called!
    That was more than a tongue in cheek remark. :P

    Close!


    I tend to prefer water anyway: for the past umpteeen years have been
    drinking coffee only in the morning, winter will have tea mid-afternoon,
    rest of the day good ol' water on the rocks (with ice cubes). Generally
    don't "feel like" an alcoholic beverage (wine, mixed drink) and
    three-quarters of the places we go to don't serve alcohol anyway.
    To me, plain water is too bland and tepid. I have to have
    flavored water. But, if I drink too much liquid, no matter what
    beverage, I go into severe diarrhea, as it's too much water for
    my colon to absorb.

    I prefer my water chilled, so will add ice to it. Occasionally do add
    a flavouring -- generally a splash of lemon juice. In summer will occasionally toss a tea bag in -- sort of an iced tea. Would sort of
    like to find a flavour variety pack -- sort of thinking like Kool-Aid
    but without the sugar.



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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Tue Jan 21 02:35:50 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 13-Jan-2020 08:11 <=-

    My Mother has shrunk, so yes, some people do tower over her.
    Especially more than they used to do... :)
    That too! ...Was thinking 'human growth spurts' might not be an
    uncommon thing: I seem to remember reading the armour worn by the
    knights in the Middle Ages being referred to as the size now worn by
    the average teenager. Something like that: did state people were
    shorter than currently.
    Probably multiple factors playing into that aspect of people getting
    taller in general... still quite a few rather short ones, though, so
    it isn't a full rule....
    Shorter humans might be at an advantage: they can hide amongst the
    tall ones!!

    One of my sisters is quite short, but also was quite athletic... she was
    able to play basketball and field hockey quite well... seemed to be able
    to run between the legs of the taller players... ;)

    A bad tooth! <g> Yes, if you hadn't eaten for some time, were feeling
    fine, then popped in a piece of gum there does seem to be a
    correlation. I would probably try again with a different
    'introduction': different / known non-headache-causing food, different
    led-in time, and try the gum experiment. OTOH if you already suspected
    a saccherin-induced migrane I'd say the result was conclusive.
    By the time the small piece of gum triggered it, I'd already stopped
    using regular foods sweetened with saccherine... the larger quantities
    were pretty conclusive as it was... the gum just clinched it...
    That does seem rather conclusive!

    I figured so... :)

    I'm making dinner!
    Where are we going?
    No, I'm _making_ dinner.
    <faint>
    And when she comes to, dinner is on the table... ;)
    And all over the stove, the walls.... <ggg>
    You must have let Autumn help... <G>
    Spread the blame? And fun?!
    Exactly... <G>
    LIS some time back Autumn loves to eat pancakes and help with the preparation, especially the mixing part. She had a fascination with mixing the dry mix and sometimes got a little over-exuberant. Now she kind of sneaks that into the occasional overmixing of the batter.
    Rarely splatters, but sometimes that bowl starts to spin pretty good!

    She's learned some control of the exuberance, then.... :) And still
    has fun doing the cooking... :)

    She also gets to make a pancake: batter is poured into her special
    pitcher -- a metal creamer. She can make whatever size (well, not
    HUGE!), shape, pattern, etc., pancake she wants.

    Size being limited by the amount of batter and the size of the pan, for
    one thing... ;)

    If you figured out what was giving you the issues, you'd be reading
    the labels like I have to... ;)
    Definitely!
    And learning lots about the stuff you're eating (or not eating, for
    that matter)... ;)
    Why am I thinking 'ignorance is bliss'? <g> Though as a partial
    defense I don't have any known issues to be wary of and I tend to eat
    reasonably healthy. Main exception is cookies. Not enough to be a
    problem to Cookie Monster.
    True... the more one reads labels, the less one wants to have much to
    do with the heavily processed foods.... :)
    Rule #1: Beware of long ingredient lists.
    Rule #2: Beware of ingredients with unpronounceable names.

    Rule #3: Learn which unpronounceable names are for good ingredients... ;)

    <egg nog>
    Didn't have any with alcohol this year: didn't have any in the evening.
    Some people don't wait for evening... at least not at an all-day
    party... ;)
    There's a country-western song "It's 5 o'clock Somewhere". :)
    Yup.... :)
    They play that on the PBS stations?!

    Of course not (at least not usually [g])... But I do have some other experiences besides PBS... ;)

    BTW, for some reason the Iowa Public Television network changed its
    name to IowaPBS the first of the year. Suppose has something to do
    with the costs of obtaining PBS programming.

    Or someone wanted to keep it short and sweet... ;)

    And as you said below, a little editing is sometimes needed, so
    Horse sense: what a horse has which keeps it from betting on people.
    There! 69 characters!
    Yup that worked.... And I snagged it without a problem... <G>
    Hopefully 'people' was the correct answer! OTOH it seems to work. :)
    Actually, as I seem to recall, the original was indeed 'people'...
    which made enough sense that I wanted to snag that tagline, only
    to find out that it was too long by by 4 characters....
    When editing to fit I have sometimes left out letters: 'abt'
    originally being 'about'. Have also dropped spaces: after a colon or semi-colon is easy; between words not too bad as capitalize the first letter but can have a bit of a problem with single-letter words like
    "I" and "a".

    Some things are more easily edited than others... :)

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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to BARRY MARTIN on Tue Jan 21 01:02:00 2020
    Barry,

    Haven't seen any insects for some time. Cleaning a bit in the basement BM>and have found a few dead ones.

    Got some dead ones on a kitchen cabinet that I need to clean off, but something always comes up.

    My main cartoons were:
    1) Looney Tunes (Bugs Bunny, Daffy Duck, Road Runner, Wile E.
    Coyote, Foghorn Leghorn, Porky Pig, Sylvester Cat, Tweety Pie,
    etc.).

    All good ones.

    We knew that you "DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME"...even if it was from Acme.


    2) Hanna-Barbera (Pixie And Dixie (and Mr. Jinx), Quickdraw
    McGraw, Wally Gator, Touche' Turtle (and Dum-Dum), Huckleberry
    Hound, Yogi Bear, The Flintstones, Scooby Doo, Speed Buggy, Hong
    Kong Phooey, etc.)

    Hmmm:
    Pixie And Dixie (and Mr. Jinx) -- Don't recognize at all

    I hate meeces to pieces. <G>

    Quickdraw McGraw -- remember him

    And, El Kabong...along with Babba Louie. <G>

    Wally Gator, Touche' Turtle (and Dum-Dum) -- maybe Wally, other no

    Touche' Turtle had a sword...Dum Dum was his canine sidekick.

    Huckleberry Hound, Yogi Bear, The Flintstones, Scooby Doo -- if one
    doesn't recognize these they've been living under a rock!
    Speed Buggy, Hong Kong Phooey, etc. -- Back to not recognizing these
    guys.

    I miss those old cartoons...although you could probably find them on
    YouTube. However, if a proposed rule goes into effect (making content
    for those 16 and younger only), it will kill YouTube, as there will be
    no viewers for the ads.

    Well the Flintstones are back on one of the retro TV channels, so a
    whole new generation might be appreciating them. Maybe the others will BM>return too.

    I loved the way they had the prehistoric inventions, appliances, etc.

    Medicines are different from clothing. Well, I'm thinking prescribed BM>medications; if one has frequent headaches or body aches bringing alonh BM>aspirin, etc., probably a good idea. If OTOH it's packed just in case BM>I'd say excess. 15 shirts for a three day weekend is excess -- unless BM>one is some sort of show or modelling.

    Or unless one sweats excessively, is a sloppy eater...or is extremely incontinent. In the latter case, it might be best to stay home!!

    "It was interesting": lots of things moved, floor tile had been removed BM>in most of the aisles. The liquor store (attached) was in-progress of BM>being moved next door so the grocery store portion could expand into it. BM>Was kind of funny: some guy walked in (from the grocery store entrance) BM>with his cart and the just stopped and looked around, then walked away. BM>About the middle third of the liquor store was empty, the front third
    had partially stocked shelves, the back third looked to be filled with BM>carts filled with liquor bottles.

    I've seen deals at Wal-Mart, where the supposed "handicapped" rider, abandoned the "scooter" in the wine aisle.

    That reminds me of where the priest is pulled over for erratic
    driving. The police officer asks him what the bottles in the car have,
    and the priest says "water". Yet, the officer asks "why does there a
    smell of wine??", and the priest says "OMG!! He did it again". <G>

    Daryl


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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to BARRY MARTIN on Tue Jan 21 01:05:00 2020
    Barry,

    Yes, one does want to be cautious of not keeping everything balanced.

    I believe in the balanced diet...balanced in the belly, and the
    buttocks. <G>

    Most of my medical doctors have wanted either the actual bottle or a
    list of all supplements, etc., because of a possibility of interaction
    or just plain too much. After I fractured my femur I was prescribed BM>calcium and Vitamin D. A year or two later another blood test was taken BM>and found I had too much Vitamin D circulating so told to reduce that. BM>(Follow-up draw showed I was back to normal levels.)

    I print up and take a 12 page med list every time I go to the doctor,
    clinic, hospital, etc. It has all my personal info, family history,
    doctors, surgeries, conditions, and medications. It's basically
    everything you wanted to know about me medically, but were afraid to
    ask. The only things not there are a full front and full back nude
    photo. <G>

    What are French Fries called in France?? Paris Potatoes?? :P
    Just think what 'French Kissing' is called!
    That was more than a tongue in cheek remark. :P

    Close!

    There's a big oil well in Paris that never came in (the Eiffel Tower
    <G>).

    I prefer my water chilled, so will add ice to it. Occasionally do add
    a flavouring -- generally a splash of lemon juice. In summer will BM>occasionally toss a tea bag in -- sort of an iced tea. Would sort of BM>like to find a flavour variety pack -- sort of thinking like Kool-Aid
    but without the sugar.

    I bought 30 bottles of flavored water at Kroger the other day, and
    they're all 1 liter in quantity. I can easily drink 2 liters of that in
    a day.

    Daryl


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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Tue Jan 21 08:55:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    Shorter humans might be at an advantage: they can hide amongst the
    tall ones!!
    One of my sisters is quite short, but also was quite athletic...
    she was able to play basketball and field hockey quite well...
    seemed to be able to run between the legs of the taller
    players... ;)

    Haha!! Probably being lower to the ground has a sneaky advantage in
    better stability: the tall ones start to fall over reaching down to her!



    A bad tooth! <g> Yes, if you hadn't eaten for some time, were feeling
    fine, then popped in a piece of gum there does seem to be a
    correlation. I would probably try again with a different
    'introduction': different / known non-headache-causing food, different
    led-in time, and try the gum experiment. OTOH if you already suspected
    a saccherin-induced migrane I'd say the result was conclusive.
    By the time the small piece of gum triggered it, I'd already stopped
    using regular foods sweetened with saccherine... the larger quantities
    were pretty conclusive as it was... the gum just clinched it...
    That does seem rather conclusive!
    I figured so... :)

    Relatively easy enough to avoid foods with saccherine so no real need to
    get a headache while trying to tweak for "I can have just a little".



    I'm making dinner!
    Where are we going?
    No, I'm _making_ dinner.
    <faint>
    And when she comes to, dinner is on the table... ;)
    And all over the stove, the walls.... <ggg>
    You must have let Autumn help... <G>
    Spread the blame? And fun?!
    Exactly... <G>
    LIS some time back Autumn loves to eat pancakes and help with the preparation, especially the mixing part. She had a fascination with mixing the dry mix and sometimes got a little over-exuberant. Now she kind of sneaks that into the occasional overmixing of the batter.
    Rarely splatters, but sometimes that bowl starts to spin pretty good!
    She's learned some control of the exuberance, then.... :) And
    still has fun doing the cooking... :)

    Yes, essentially rules-learning: mixing the dry mix really fast may be
    fun but makes a mess the adults don't like. Mixing slower might not be
    quite as much fun but can do it longer because doesn't make the mess the
    adults don't like. And the pouring of the batter into shapes, well,
    that's legally playing with food! <g>


    She also gets to make a pancake: batter is poured into her special
    pitcher -- a metal creamer. She can make whatever size (well, not
    HUGE!), shape, pattern, etc., pancake she wants.
    Size being limited by the amount of batter and the size of the
    pan, for one thing... ;)

    Yes. LIS earlier, sort of a legal playing with her food, plus
    participating in creating the meal. OTOH it's hers and only hers.


    If you figured out what was giving you the issues, you'd be reading
    the labels like I have to... ;)
    Definitely!
    And learning lots about the stuff you're eating (or not eating, for
    that matter)... ;)
    Why am I thinking 'ignorance is bliss'? <g> Though as a partial
    defense I don't have any known issues to be wary of and I tend to eat
    reasonably healthy. Main exception is cookies. Not enough to be a
    problem to Cookie Monster.
    True... the more one reads labels, the less one wants to have much to
    do with the heavily processed foods.... :)
    Rule #1: Beware of long ingredient lists.
    Rule #2: Beware of ingredients with unpronounceable names.
    Rule #3: Learn which unpronounceable names are for good
    ingredients... ;)

    That's true! Not all short names are good and not all long names are
    bad. Not all natural ingredients are good. A cup of hemlock, Socrates?


    <egg nog>
    Didn't have any with alcohol this year: didn't have any in the evening.
    Some people don't wait for evening... at least not at an all-day
    party... ;)
    There's a country-western song "It's 5 o'clock Somewhere". :)
    Yup.... :)
    They play that on the PBS stations?!
    Of course not (at least not usually [g])... But I do have some
    other experiences besides PBS... ;)

    Nancy! You wild woman you! <bseg>


    BTW, for some reason the Iowa Public Television network changed its
    name to IowaPBS the first of the year. Suppose has something to do
    with the costs of obtaining PBS programming.
    Or someone wanted to keep it short and sweet... ;)

    The Chief Engineer??!! The old way had the various television stations
    in the state identified by their call letters: locally KQIN. Now simply IowaPBS. So all dozen or so stations now ar eidentified the same. (And
    yes, that was the electronics nerd answer as a semi-joke reply. <g>)

    Althought "I-o-wa P-B-S" is easier and faster to say than "Iowa Public Television Network". :)

    And good news: AFAICT no one lost their job with the merger (?) / new affiliation: Abby and Dan are the two humans doing most of the hosting,
    DanBot the robot (who thinks he's Dan's son) are still present. Not
    recalling if I've seen Steve, the guy who plays the guitar -- sort of.



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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Wed Jan 22 10:10:00 2020

    Hi Daryl!

    Haven't seen any insects for some time. Cleaning a bit in the basement
    and have found a few dead ones.
    Got some dead ones on a kitchen cabinet that I need to clean
    off, but something always comes up.

    Yumm! Saute? Serve as hors d'oeuvre? <g>


    My main cartoons were:
    1) Looney Tunes (Bugs Bunny, Daffy Duck, Road Runner, Wile E.
    Coyote, Foghorn Leghorn, Porky Pig, Sylvester Cat, Tweety Pie,
    etc.).
    All good ones.
    We knew that you "DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME"...even if it was
    from Acme. <G>

    OK - so try it at a friend's home!


    2) Hanna-Barbera (Pixie And Dixie (and Mr. Jinx), Quickdraw
    McGraw, Wally Gator, Touche' Turtle (and Dum-Dum), Huckleberry
    Hound, Yogi Bear, The Flintstones, Scooby Doo, Speed Buggy, Hong
    Kong Phooey, etc.)

    Hmmm:
    Pixie And Dixie (and Mr. Jinx) -- Don't recognize at all
    I hate meeces to pieces. <G>

    And rats should go splats! ...And it just dawned on me: Mr. Jinx is a
    largish black-and-white cat who is always after Pixie and Dixie, two
    relatively cute gray mice. Apparently they needed a better press agent.



    Quickdraw McGraw -- remember him
    And, El Kabong...along with Babba Louie. <G>

    Nope, back to those cartoon question marks over my head.



    Wally Gator, Touche' Turtle (and Dum-Dum) -- maybe Wally, other no
    Touche' Turtle had a sword...Dum Dum was his canine sidekick.

    Predecessor to the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles?!


    Huckleberry Hound, Yogi Bear, The Flintstones, Scooby Doo -- if one
    doesn't recognize these they've been living under a rock!
    Speed Buggy, Hong Kong Phooey, etc. -- Back to not recognizing these
    guys.
    I miss those old cartoons...although you could probably find
    them on YouTube. However, if a proposed rule goes into effect
    (making content for those 16 and younger only), it will kill
    YouTube, as there will be no viewers for the ads.

    Well there might be viewers but not too many buyers.



    Well the Flintstones are back on one of the retro TV channels, so a
    whole new generation might be appreciating them. Maybe the others will
    return too.
    I loved the way they had the prehistoric inventions,
    appliances, etc.

    It would be kind of funny of archeologists discovered the pyramids,
    Great Wall of China, Stonehedge, etc., were created with the help of
    things like Fred's dinosaur at the quarry!



    Medicines are different from clothing. Well, I'm thinking prescribed
    medications; if one has frequent headaches or body aches bringing alonh
    aspirin, etc., probably a good idea. If OTOH it's packed just in case
    I'd say excess. 15 shirts for a three day weekend is excess -- unless
    one is some sort of show or modelling.
    Or unless one sweats excessively, is a sloppy eater...or is
    extremely incontinent. In the latter case, it might be best to
    stay home!!

    I'd be more concerned about the person with incontinence bringing 15
    shirts and not 15 pants!



    "It was interesting": lots of things moved, floor tile had been removed
    in most of the aisles. The liquor store (attached) was in-progress of
    being moved next door so the grocery store portion could expand into it.
    Was kind of funny: some guy walked in (from the grocery store entrance)
    with his cart and the just stopped and looked around, then walked away.
    About the middle third of the liquor store was empty, the front third
    had partially stocked shelves, the back third looked to be filled with
    carts filled with liquor bottles.
    I've seen deals at Wal-Mart, where the supposed "handicapped"
    rider, abandoned the "scooter" in the wine aisle.

    It's a Miracle!

    My cane (used when recovering from the fractured femur) was abandoned in
    the Men's Department at the store and in Lost and Found for months.


    That reminds me of where the priest is pulled over for erratic
    driving. The police officer asks him what the bottles in the car
    have, and the priest says "water". Yet, the officer asks "why
    does there a smell of wine??", and the priest says "OMG!! He did
    it again". <G>

    Quick thinking!


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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Wed Jan 22 10:10:00 2020

    Hi Daryl!


    Yes, one does want to be cautious of not keeping everything balanced.
    I believe in the balanced diet...balanced in the belly, and the buttocks. <G>

    At least that way you won't fall over!


    Most of my medical doctors have wanted either the actual bottle or a
    list of all supplements, etc., because of a possibility of interaction
    or just plain too much. After I fractured my femur I was prescribed
    calcium and Vitamin D. A year or two later another blood test was taken
    and found I had too much Vitamin D circulating so told to reduce that.
    (Follow-up draw showed I was back to normal levels.)
    I print up and take a 12 page med list every time I go to the
    doctor, clinic, hospital, etc. It has all my personal info,
    family history, doctors, surgeries, conditions, and medications.
    It's basically everything you wanted to know about me medically,
    but were afraid to ask. The only things not there are a full
    front and full back nude photo. <G>

    I hope that list isn't single-spaced! You'd need a large shopping cart
    and have someone help load into your car! ....Does depend how detailed
    one makes the list: mine lists what, who prescribed, why, and somtimes comments.



    What are French Fries called in France?? Paris Potatoes?? :P
    Just think what 'French Kissing' is called!
    That was more than a tongue in cheek remark. :P
    Close!
    There's a big oil well in Paris that never came in (the Eiffel
    Tower <G>).

    And from the looks of things they never tried elsewhere.


    I prefer my water chilled, so will add ice to it. Occasionally do add
    a flavouring -- generally a splash of lemon juice. In summer will
    occasionally toss a tea bag in -- sort of an iced tea. Would sort of
    like to find a flavour variety pack -- sort of thinking like Kool-Aid
    but without the sugar.
    I bought 30 bottles of flavored water at Kroger the other day,
    and they're all 1 liter in quantity. I can easily drink 2 liters
    of that in a day.

    So that should last you a couple weeks!


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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to BARRY MARTIN on Fri Jan 24 22:43:00 2020
    Barry,

    Got some dead ones on a kitchen cabinet that I need to clean
    off, but something always comes up.

    Yumm! Saute? Serve as hors d'oeuvre? <g>

    You want to hear a good gag?? <URK!> :P

    We knew that you "DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME"...even if it was
    from Acme. <G>

    OK - so try it at a friend's home!

    Most kids nowadays have no idea what the classic Looney Tunes were. In
    the movie "Who Framed Roger Rabbit", the slogan was "If It's ACME, it's
    a gasser". Their biggest seller?? The hand buzzer. <G>

    And rats should go splats! ...And it just dawned on me: Mr. Jinx is a BM>largish black-and-white cat who is always after Pixie and Dixie, two BM>relatively cute gray mice. Apparently they needed a better press agent.

    That's right.


    Quickdraw McGraw -- remember him
    And, El Kabong...along with Babba Louie. <G>

    Nope, back to those cartoon question marks over my head.

    You might be able to find the classic cartoons on YouTube. I've been
    too busy to look lately. I also forgot another one...Sheriff "Ping Ping
    Ping" Ricochet Rabbit. :P

    Wally Gator, Touche' Turtle (and Dum-Dum) -- maybe Wally, other no
    Touche' Turtle had a sword...Dum Dum was his canine sidekick.

    Predecessor to the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles?!

    Maybe. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

    (making content for those 16 and younger only), it will kill
    YouTube, as there will be no viewers for the ads.

    Well there might be viewers but not too many buyers.

    And, in my browser (Firefox), I have ad blockers, etc. The websites
    hate that, but I want to protect my system in case a website gets hacked
    with malware links.

    It would be kind of funny of archeologists discovered the pyramids,
    Great Wall of China, Stonehedge, etc., were created with the help of BM>things like Fred's dinosaur at the quarry!

    Here are some items:

    A beaver for a paint brush, who notes "I hope he remembers to clean me
    when he's done. I hate to go home with a sticky tail".

    A turtle for an iron, who notes "If they were smart, they'd lay eggs
    like we do, and have no problem".

    A parrot for a doctors office intercom, who flew back and forth from the speaker box in the doctors room, to the speaker box at the nurses
    station out front. When one said "I heard them", the parrot lamented "I
    don't know what they need me for".

    I'd be more concerned about the person with incontinence bringing 15 BM>shirts and not 15 pants!

    Of course, if they're a nudist, soiling clothes is the least of their worries. :P

    On another note, I forget where it was, but police finally caught "the
    pooper bandit"...a woman who was constantly defecating in parking lots.
    I guess she had an aversion to toilets.

    I've seen deals at Wal-Mart, where the supposed "handicapped"
    rider, abandoned the "scooter" in the wine aisle.

    It's a Miracle!

    Or when the priest was pulled over by the cop for erratic driving.
    When asked what he had in the car, the priest said "it's just water".
    When the cop said "It smells like wine", the priest said "My Lord!! He
    did it again!!" <G>.

    My cane (used when recovering from the fractured femur) was abandoned in BM>the Men's Department at the store and in Lost and Found for months.

    Mine is a "HurryCane" that was ordered through the Doctor Leonard's catalog...and my walker may have been ordered through it as well.

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    We're supposed to get snow tonight (Wednesday into Thursday), tomorrow BM>(Thursday) and Friday - an inch each day. Guess have to work!

    No winter weather for my part of the country for the foreseeable future...seasonal temperatures, and no snow or ice. Tornado Season is
    only 5 weeks away <sigh!>.

    Daryl


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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to BARRY MARTIN on Fri Jan 24 22:47:00 2020
    Barry,

    Yes, one does want to be cautious of not keeping everything balanced.
    I believe in the balanced diet...balanced in the belly, and the buttocks. <G>

    At least that way you won't fall over!

    But, I doubt I'd bounce...not much insulation back there.

    I hope that list isn't single-spaced! You'd need a large shopping cart BM>and have someone help load into your car! ....Does depend how detailed BM>one makes the list: mine lists what, who prescribed, why, and somtimes BM>comments.

    Oh, it's very detailed...11 pages right now. It has:

    1) Personal Info (height, weight, BMI, contact info)
    2) Family medical history/deaths
    3) List of physicians and specialists
    4) Surgeries in chronological order
    5) Conditions in alphabetical order
    6) Prescriptions and OTC medicines
    7) Additional comments

    There's a big oil well in Paris that never came in (the Eiffel
    Tower <G>).

    And from the looks of things they never tried elsewhere.

    With that coronavirus, the price of oil has plunged. Chinese folks who
    would be traveling for the Lunar New Year, are being exhorted to stay
    home. There have been some cases noted in the U.S.

    I bought 30 bottles of flavored water at Kroger the other day,
    and they're all 1 liter in quantity. I can easily drink 2 liters
    of that in a day.

    So that should last you a couple weeks!

    I'm into heavy drinking, but I stay sober. <G>

    Daryl


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  • From Mike Powell@454:1/105 to DARYL STOUT on Sat Jan 25 08:39:00 2020
    You might be able to find the classic cartoons on YouTube. I've been
    too busy to look lately. I also forgot another one...Sheriff "Ping Ping
    Ping" Ricochet Rabbit. :P

    You can find highlights of several and, if it is old enough to have slipped into the public domain, you can find full ~8 minute episodes.

    There used to be a classic cartoon website where you could watch full
    episodes of public domain cartoons for free. I was not able to find it the last time I looked for it, though.

    On another note, I forget where it was, but police finally caught "the pooper bandit"...a woman who was constantly defecating in parking lots.
    I guess she had an aversion to toilets.

    Was that in your area? A year or so ago, there was a lady jogger who was
    doing that in people's front yards. Someone caught her on camera and,
    later, confronted her about her habit. I don't know where that one went as
    I stopped seing articles about it. IIRC, she was an other wise normal
    person with a mental health issue.

    Mike


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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Sat Jan 25 07:52:00 2020

    Hi Daryl!

    Got some dead ones on a kitchen cabinet that I need to clean
    off, but something always comes up.
    Yumm! Saute? Serve as hors d'oeuvre? <g>
    You want to hear a good gag?? <URK!> :P

    Hey! I'd no Emeril but I no one has been hospitalized - yet! <g>



    We knew that you "DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME"...even if it was
    from Acme. <G>
    OK - so try it at a friend's home!
    Most kids nowadays have no idea what the classic Looney Tunes
    were. In the movie "Who Framed Roger Rabbit", the slogan was "If
    It's ACME, it's a gasser". Their biggest seller?? The hand
    buzzer. <G>

    I understand their hand doorbell was a flop. <smirk>

    Do watch some of the PBS Kids shows with Autumn and they do make
    reference to some of the older cartoons and shows. 99% of those go
    right over her 5-yo head.



    And rats should go splats! ...And it just dawned on me: Mr. Jinx is a
    largish black-and-white cat who is always after Pixie and Dixie, two
    relatively cute gray mice. Apparently they needed a better press agent.
    That's right.

    My repressed childhood memories are making a breakthrough!!


    Quickdraw McGraw -- remember him
    And, El Kabong...along with Babba Louie. <G>
    Nope, back to those cartoon question marks over my head.
    You might be able to find the classic cartoons on YouTube. I've
    been too busy to look lately. I also forgot another one...Sheriff
    "Ping Ping Ping" Ricochet Rabbit. :P

    Yes, could look on YouTube: for me probably the least expensive option (generally free - I'll sip at coffee during the commercial). As for
    Sheriff "Ping Ping Ping" Ricochet Rabbit - another one who doesn't
    sound familiar. Wonder what I was doing? Apparently not watching TV!


    Wally Gator, Touche' Turtle (and Dum-Dum) -- maybe Wally, other no
    Touche' Turtle had a sword...Dum Dum was his canine sidekick.
    Predecessor to the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles?!
    Maybe. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

    As long as doens't recult in a lawsuit!


    (making content for those 16 and younger only), it will kill
    YouTube, as there will be no viewers for the ads.
    Well there might be viewers but not too many buyers.
    And, in my browser (Firefox), I have ad blockers, etc. The
    websites hate that, but I want to protect my system in case a
    website gets hacked with malware links.

    Here I have Firefox with Ad Block Plus -- does block a lot of ads but a
    lot still get through. Their explanation is some ads have been white-
    listed and/or are for whatever reason approved. (And that was
    paraphrased.) Overall better with ADP than without.

    Not sure if just viewing the ads without going to the ads' sites is a
    problem but overall agree with the more layers of protection the better.


    It would be kind of funny of archeologists discovered the pyramids,
    Great Wall of China, Stonehedge, etc., were created with the help of
    things like Fred's dinosaur at the quarry!
    Here are some items:
    A beaver for a paint brush, who notes "I hope he remembers to
    clean me when he's done. I hate to go home with a sticky tail".

    Plus if water-based paint might turn the beaver's pond an odd colour! Oil-based: probably strange blotches.


    A turtle for an iron, who notes "If they were smart, they'd lay
    eggs like we do, and have no problem".

    An idea whose time has hatched!


    A parrot for a doctors office intercom, who flew back and forth
    from the speaker box in the doctors room, to the speaker box at
    the nurses station out front. When one said "I heard them", the
    parrot lamented "I don't know what they need me for".

    That one's good! :)


    I'd be more concerned about the person with incontinence bringing 15
    shirts and not 15 pants!
    Of course, if they're a nudist, soiling clothes is the least of
    their worries. :P

    They would be able to pack really-really light!



    On another note, I forget where it was, but police finally
    caught "the pooper bandit"...a woman who was constantly
    defecating in parking lots. I guess she had an aversion to
    toilets.

    For a while at the store we had "The Mad <Poop>er": would poop next
    to one of the toilets in the Mens Room stalls. Fortunately the
    Corporate Haz Mat rules prohibited most of us from having to clean it up
    as we had not gone through the training. That left Management and L.P.
    Most of supervisors and managers were female, so either couldn't go in
    or we'd have to close and guard the door for a while. And L.P. was also
    about half female staff. And the males sometimes didn't have time.
    Ended up we'd just close and seal the stall door, put an Out of Order
    sign up, and leave for the Cleaning Crew.



    My cane (used when recovering from the fractured femur) was abandoned in
    the Men's Department at the store and in Lost and Found for months.
    Mine is a "HurryCane" that was ordered through the Doctor
    Leonard's catalog...and my walker may have been ordered through
    it as well.

    Hey neat! Has a wheel on the bottom to help it move along! <rs!> The self-standing feature makes sense: I've and others have leaned their
    cane against a wall, hung on a counter - bam! falls to the floor. And sometimes that floor is a long ways down!!



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    off. --- SBBSecho 3.10-Win32
    We're supposed to get snow tonight (Wednesday into Thursday), tomorrow
    (Thursday) and Friday - an inch each day. Guess have to work!
    No winter weather for my part of the country for the
    foreseeable future...seasonal temperatures, and no snow or ice.
    Tornado Season is only 5 weeks away <sigh!>.

    We've had snow the last three nights. Wednesday night got about 1-2
    inches of fairly light snow -- maybe had a top crust: after a while all
    the specifics run together; just deal with it. Thursday night around 2"
    but was soggy and heavier. Last night more snow but looks like maybe a
    ". Is a little foggy out there: sensor here at the house said 99%
    humidity but I can see the streetlight at the end of the block clearly.
    Also right at freezing, so don't know yet if icy.

    This morning's TV weather forecast indicated the temperatures would stay
    in the lower 30's all day and tomorrow - I think she likes GFS. The one
    I get from Norway during the mailrun probably uses ECMWF is indicating
    around freezing all day then dropping to 20 overnight.



    Barry_Martin_3@
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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Sat Jan 25 07:52:00 2020

    Hi Daryl!

    Yes, one does want to be cautious of not keeping everything balanced.
    I believe in the balanced diet...balanced in the belly, and the buttocks. <G>
    At least that way you won't fall over!
    But, I doubt I'd bounce...not much insulation back there.

    So you're trying to tell me you don't have a hot butt? ...And why??!!


    I hope that list isn't single-spaced! You'd need a large shopping cart
    and have someone help load into your car! ....Does depend how detailed
    one makes the list: mine lists what, who prescribed, why, and somtimes
    comments.
    Oh, it's very detailed...11 pages right now. It has:
    1) Personal Info (height, weight, BMI, contact info)
    2) Family medical history/deaths
    3) List of physicians and specialists
    4) Surgeries in chronological order
    5) Conditions in alphabetical order
    6) Prescriptions and OTC medicines
    7) Additional comments

    I guess it's detailed! Most of that information I expect to have been
    already entered into my on-going medical records, I do have a probably quarter-sheet with my prescriptions, dosages, who issued and why and
    another quarter-sheet listing doctors (including dentist). Phone has a
    scroll for preferred hospital, medical doctor, and contact info.

    Looking at your list it might be a good idea to add another sheet (might
    have to go half!) of medical history summary. ...The quarter-sheet size
    folds and fits in with the insurance cards - all together in my wallet.



    There's a big oil well in Paris that never came in (the Eiffel
    Tower <G>).
    And from the looks of things they never tried elsewhere.
    With that coronavirus, the price of oil has plunged. Chinese
    folks who would be traveling for the Lunar New Year, are being
    exhorted to stay home. There have been some cases noted in the
    U.S.

    Yes, and this isn't the first time in history travelling has spread
    disease. Spanish caused some sickness to the Incas comes to mind.

    Glad I don't have any travel plans for the next several months.



    I bought 30 bottles of flavored water at Kroger the other day,
    and they're all 1 liter in quantity. I can easily drink 2 liters
    of that in a day.
    So that should last you a couple weeks!
    I'm into heavy drinking, but I stay sober. <G>

    Maybe try tapering off froma 16 oz glass to an 8!


    Barry_Martin_3@
    @Q.COM



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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to BARRY MARTIN on Sun Jan 26 22:53:00 2020
    Barry,

    Hey! I'd no Emeril but I no one has been hospitalized - yet! <g>

    My late wife and I would've loved to be on one of his shows.

    On one episode, he was busy making up some scrumptious cuisine, and
    out of the blue, my wife let out this pitiful scream. I asked "Honey!!
    What's Wrong??", and she lamented "He just ruined it"!! <G>

    The better one was when Paula Deen was on there, cooking up a true
    southern breakfast (eggs, toast, biscuits, bacon, sausage, ham, gravy, tomatoes, orange juice, etc.), and she was going to add fried pork
    chops (brief pause for drooling).

    She notes this deal, like a rolling pin, to tenderize the pork chops,
    and says "I use this to beat my meat with!!" <G>.

    The audience erupts into laughter at her comment (a euphemism for masturbation), and Emeril has this horrifed look on his face!! He
    pleads "Don't Even Go There!!". The black guy on the drums in the band,
    was about to spit his teeth out of his mouth!! <BG>.

    Years ago, at the Cracker Barrel in Little Rock, on Monday night, they
    served boneless pork chops...but discontinued that awhile back. Needless
    to say, I was disappointed.

    I understand their hand doorbell was a flop. <smirk>

    It's better they have a mousetrap for the door knocker ("We'll Hear
    You!!" <G>).

    Do watch some of the PBS Kids shows with Autumn and they do make BM>reference to some of the older cartoons and shows. 99% of those go
    right over her 5-yo head.

    All I have with the Xfinity is high speed internet. While there is a
    TV here, I don't even watch it.

    My repressed childhood memories are making a breakthrough!!

    I discovered today that they are apparently now trying to eat their
    way into the refrigerator. So, I have to call Terminix again in the
    morning.

    Combine that with problems with a ham radio application, and I'm not a
    happy camper right now.

    Yes, could look on YouTube: for me probably the least expensive option BM>(generally free - I'll sip at coffee during the commercial). As for BM>Sheriff "Ping Ping Ping" Ricochet Rabbit - another one who doesn't
    sound familiar. Wonder what I was doing? Apparently not watching TV!

    If a "proposed rule" requires content to be for those 16 and younger,
    it will kill YouTube, as it's not the kids who have money for the ads.
    And, if their content isn't viewable, they're not going to pay to set up
    a channel, or for ads.

    Maybe. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

    As long as doens't recult in a lawsuit!

    Society is so litigious, they'll sue at the drop of a hat. Next thing, belching, sneezing, and pooting, will be considered capital crimes. If
    that's the case, everyone should flatulate at once, and light a
    match...then the whole planet will be incinerated in a methane fireball.

    Here I have Firefox with Ad Block Plus -- does block a lot of ads but a BM>lot still get through. Their explanation is some ads have been white- BM>listed and/or are for whatever reason approved. (And that was BM>paraphrased.) Overall better with ADP than without.

    I can't get Facebook to display properly with Firefox...but I prefer
    the security features with Firefox cvompared to Chrome.

    Not sure if just viewing the ads without going to the ads' sites is a BM>problem but overall agree with the more layers of protection the better.

    Got to practice safe hex.

    A beaver for a paint brush, who notes "I hope he remembers to
    clean me when he's done. I hate to go home with a sticky tail".

    Plus if water-based paint might turn the beaver's pond an odd colour! BM>Oil-based: probably strange blotches.

    I doubt it'd be plaid. Now, there's a color of paint I'd like to see.
    :P When I worked in silkscreen printing, we had a PMS Chart...but it
    stood for "Pantone Matching System". You had to replace it yearly, as
    the colors would fade under the fluorescent lights.

    A turtle for an iron, who notes "If they were smart, they'd lay
    eggs like we do, and have no problem".

    An idea whose time has hatched!

    If a turtle loses his shell, is he naked or homeless??

    A parrot for a doctors office intercom, who flew back and forth
    from the speaker box in the doctors room, to the speaker box at
    the nurses station out front. When one said "I heard them", the
    parrot lamented "I don't know what they need me for".

    That one's good! :)

    In one episode, the doctor thought he drew blood from Fred, but it was rubbing alcohol that was in his back pocket. The parrot got a whiff of
    it, and after the nurse said "He (Fred) seemed happy enough (to give
    it)", the parrot replied "Wowee!! If you had his blood, you'd be happy,
    too!! Whoopee!!", and promptly spun wildly on his perch. <G>

    Of course, if they're a nudist, soiling clothes is the least of
    their worries. :P

    They would be able to pack really-really light!

    No line at the laundromat. Or be like the woman (blonde??!!) who was stripping butt naked at the laundromat. The sign said "When washer
    stops, remove all clothes". <G>

    For a while at the store we had "The Mad <Poop>er": would poop next
    to one of the toilets in the Mens Room stalls. Fortunately the
    Corporate Haz Mat rules prohibited most of us from having to clean it up BM>as we had not gone through the training. That left Management and L.P. BM>Most of supervisors and managers were female, so either couldn't go in
    or we'd have to close and guard the door for a while. And L.P. was also BM>about half female staff. And the males sometimes didn't have time.
    Ended up we'd just close and seal the stall door, put an Out of Order BM>sign up, and leave for the Cleaning Crew.

    Or the cartoon, where the bear is coming out of the woods, and he
    tells the man "I wouldn't go in there for awhile". <G>

    Mine is a "HurryCane" that was ordered through the Doctor
    Leonard's catalog...and my walker may have been ordered through
    it as well.

    Hey neat! Has a wheel on the bottom to help it move along! <rs!> The BM>self-standing feature makes sense: I've and others have leaned their
    cane against a wall, hung on a counter - bam! falls to the floor. And BM>sometimes that floor is a long ways down!!

    If I am going to have to stand for a long time, I will take the walker
    with me. Otherwise, I use the cane.

    We've had snow the last three nights. Wednesday night got about 1-2 BM>inches of fairly light snow -- maybe had a top crust: after a while all BM>the specifics run together; just deal with it. Thursday night around 2" BM>but was soggy and heavier. Last night more snow but looks like maybe a BM>". Is a little foggy out there: sensor here at the house said 99% BM>humidity but I can see the streetlight at the end of the block clearly. BM>Also right at freezing, so don't know yet if icy.

    Maybe some snow in far north Arkansas later this week, but nothing
    further south. Meterological Spring starts March 1, with the vernal
    equinox on March 20 (I think). But, I've seen snow here as late as April
    19 on 2 occasions. It didn't stick, but it was "eye candy". However,
    what moisture was on the roads, froze to black ice overnight.

    This morning's TV weather forecast indicated the temperatures would stay BM>in the lower 30's all day and tomorrow - I think she likes GFS. The one BM>I get from Norway during the mailrun probably uses ECMWF is indicating BM>around freezing all day then dropping to 20 overnight.

    I thought the GFS was cold biased, but lately, it has been the GEM (Canadian).

    Meteorology is such an inexact science...but so many feel that the
    weather folks are the only ones who can be wrong, and still keep their
    jobs.

    Daryl


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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to BARRY MARTIN on Sun Jan 26 22:35:00 2020
    Barry,

    But, I doubt I'd bounce...not much insulation back there.

    So you're trying to tell me you don't have a hot butt? ...And why??!!

    It's broken...got a huge crack right down the middle. :P But, at least
    the crack is vertical instead of horizontal...because if it was
    horizontal, and I fell out of bed, I'd hear "Be-Duh, Be-Duh, Be-Duh", as
    the cheeks flapped together. :P

    I guess it's detailed! Most of that information I expect to have been BM>already entered into my on-going medical records, I do have a probably BM>quarter-sheet with my prescriptions, dosages, who issued and why and BM>another quarter-sheet listing doctors (including dentist). Phone has a BM>scroll for preferred hospital, medical doctor, and contact info.

    I give them a fresh sheet every time...in case their computers crash
    and they lose the data, or they get hit with ransomware...which quite a
    few medical facilities have had happen to them recently.

    Looking at your list it might be a good idea to add another sheet (might BM>have to go half!) of medical history summary. ...The quarter-sheet size BM>folds and fits in with the insurance cards - all together in my wallet.

    It's already on 8 1/2x11 pages...11 pages long. I do need to send an
    updated copy of that to MedicAlert, though.

    Yes, and this isn't the first time in history travelling has spread BM>disease. Spanish caused some sickness to the Incas comes to mind.

    They've got cases in Canada, and the US, and it's spreading rapidly to
    Europe and elsewhere.

    Glad I don't have any travel plans for the next several months.

    Well, I do, but it'll be by train...to Louisiana in July, 2020...then
    to Mississippi in June, 2021...then, that's my last out of state trip.

    I'm into heavy drinking, but I stay sober. <G>

    Maybe try tapering off froma 16 oz glass to an 8!

    Doctors advise you to drink eight eight ounce glasses of water a day.
    Too much liquid sets my colon off, and to me, plain water is too bland.

    I'm drinking at least 2 liters of flavored water a day...and in the
    summer, that amount doubles.

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to MIKE POWELL on Sun Jan 26 22:36:00 2020
    Mike,

    You can find highlights of several and, if it is old enough to have slipped MP>into the public domain, you can find full ~8 minute episodes.

    That's when cartoons were good.

    There used to be a classic cartoon website where you could watch full MP>episodes of public domain cartoons for free. I was not able to find it the MP>last time I looked for it, though.

    It may be long gone.

    Was that in your area? A year or so ago, there was a lady jogger who was MP>doing that in people's front yards. Someone caught her on camera and, MP>later, confronted her about her habit. I don't know where that one went as MP>I stopped seing articles about it. IIRC, she was an other wise normal MP>person with a mental health issue.

    Not in my area...it was on the FoxNews website.

    I have IBS myself, but I try to find a toilet first.

    Daryl


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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Mon Jan 27 10:03:00 2020

    Hi Daryl!

    Hey! I'd no Emeril but I no one has been hospitalized - yet! <g>
    My late wife and I would've loved to be on one of his shows.

    Audience might be better if get to sample the show's cooking!


    On one episode, he was busy making up some scrumptious cuisine,
    and out of the blue, my wife let out this pitiful scream. I asked
    "Honey!! What's Wrong??", and she lamented "He just ruined it"!! <G>

    Sort of reminds me of the restaurant that was in a local German-themed
    hotel: exterior more Tudor-style but inside definitely German-castle and antiques. German food offerings were supposed to be authentic; didn't
    taste like what my Mother made and she was from Vienna, her father from
    Hungary (now Slovakia). Their food was good, just not right.



    The better one was when Paula Deen was on there, cooking up a
    true southern breakfast (eggs, toast, biscuits, bacon, sausage,
    ham, gravy, tomatoes, orange juice, etc.), and she was going to
    add fried pork chops (brief pause for drooling).

    _Brief_ pause??!!

    She notes this deal, like a rolling pin, to tenderize the pork
    chops, and says "I use this to beat my meat with!!" <G>.
    The audience erupts into laughter at her comment (a euphemism
    for masturbation), and Emeril has this horrifed look on his
    face!! He pleads "Don't Even Go There!!". The black guy on the
    drums in the band, was about to spit his teeth out of his mouth!! <BG>.

    Said in clean innocence to slightly dirty minds!



    Years ago, at the Cracker Barrel in Little Rock, on Monday
    night, they served boneless pork chops...but discontinued that
    awhile back. Needless to say, I was disappointed.

    We haven't been to the Cracker Barrel here for some time -- good food,
    lots of it. Just waaay on the other end of town. ...OTOH we don't go
    out to eat all that often.


    I understand their hand doorbell was a flop. <smirk>
    It's better they have a mousetrap for the door knocker ("We'll
    Hear You!!" <G>).

    It's only the first knock that hurts!



    Do watch some of the PBS Kids shows with Autumn and they do make
    reference to some of the older cartoons and shows. 99% of those go
    right over her 5-yo head.
    All I have with the Xfinity is high speed internet. While there
    is a TV here, I don't even watch it.

    As long as the television is behaving itself it shouldn't need to be ...
    Oh: wrong 'watch'!



    I discovered today that they are apparently now trying to eat
    their way into the refrigerator. So, I have to call Terminix
    again in the morning.

    Great! :( Well, the good news is you've caught them before they got in,
    plus you have the Terminex contract. The rast in with your food isn't
    all that great, but if congregate in the kitchen should be easier to exterminate as opposed ot being randomly in other parts of the house.


    Combine that with problems with a ham radio application, and
    I'm not a happy camper right now.

    You could be a tent, or a teepee instead of a camper. (No wonder
    comedians have writers!)



    Yes, could look on YouTube: for me probably the least expensive option
    (generally free - I'll sip at coffee during the commercial). As for
    Sheriff "Ping Ping Ping" Ricochet Rabbit - another one who doesn't
    sound familiar. Wonder what I was doing? Apparently not watching TV!
    If a "proposed rule" requires content to be for those 16 and
    younger, it will kill YouTube, as it's not the kids who have
    money for the ads. And, if their content isn't viewable, they're
    not going to pay to set up a channel, or for ads.

    Right. Some people might subscribe (as in pay). ...I might pay a
    little for a time-limited access (like three hours a month); I don't
    know - all depends what other options are out there.



    Maybe. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
    As long as doens't recult in a lawsuit!
    Society is so litigious, they'll sue at the drop of a hat. Next
    thing, belching, sneezing, and pooting, will be considered
    capital crimes. If that's the case, everyone should flatulate at
    once, and light a match...then the whole planet will be
    incinerated in a methane fireball.

    It's more the U.S. Years ago we (my Mother and I) signed over our
    inheritance rights to farmland in Slovakia to family living there. The
    U.S. version was pages and pages long. The European lawyers apparently
    looked at the document and shook their heads: their version was barely
    two double-spaced pages - and most of the second pages was signatures.



    Here I have Firefox with Ad Block Plus -- does block a lot of ads but a
    lot still get through. Their explanation is some ads have been white-
    listed and/or are for whatever reason approved. (And that was
    paraphrased.) Overall better with ADP than without.
    I can't get Facebook to display properly with Firefox...but I
    prefer the security features with Firefox cvompared to Chrome.

    LISB4 (I think) I don't do facebook so no experience. Have had some
    issues with sites not working properly with Firefox.



    Not sure if just viewing the ads without going to the ads' sites is a
    problem but overall agree with the more layers of protection the better.
    Got to practice safe hex.

    Not only on the computer but telephone calls and mail -- all sorts of
    scams out there.



    A beaver for a paint brush, who notes "I hope he remembers to
    clean me when he's done. I hate to go home with a sticky tail".
    Plus if water-based paint might turn the beaver's pond an odd colour!
    Oil-based: probably strange blotches.
    I doubt it'd be plaid. Now, there's a color of paint I'd like
    to see. :P When I worked in silkscreen printing, we had a PMS
    Chart...but it stood for "Pantone Matching System". You had to
    replace it yearly, as the colors would fade under the fluorescent
    lights.

    Plaid paint -- hmmm! Thinking possible if one worked really-really fast
    if the horizontal sections didn't dry before the vertical could belnd
    together.

    As for fluorescent lighting: at the store we had some very slow-moving merchandise -- which is really scary to see a stack of bath towels
    lumbering down the aisle! ...Umm: did have some ugly towels which
    were faded on the edge where folded and was exposed to the lights. Same
    for some odd-sized jeans folded on the Jean Wall. Sat their long enough
    had fade stripes.

    And quite suree you've seen faded stop signs while driving: red paint especially seems to fade in sunlight.



    A turtle for an iron, who notes "If they were smart, they'd lay
    eggs like we do, and have no problem".
    An idea whose time has hatched!
    If a turtle loses his shell, is he naked or homeless??

    Both!



    In one episode, the doctor thought he drew blood from Fred, but
    it was rubbing alcohol that was in his back pocket. The parrot
    got a whiff of it, and after the nurse said "He (Fred) seemed
    happy enough (to give it)", the parrot replied "Wowee!! If you
    had his blood, you'd be happy, too!! Whoopee!!", and promptly
    spun wildly on his perch. <G>

    Need to insert a pun on 'proof'!


    Of course, if they're a nudist, soiling clothes is the least of their worries. :P
    They would be able to pack really-really light!
    No line at the laundromat. Or be like the woman (blonde??!!)
    who was stripping butt naked at the laundromat. The sign said
    "When washer stops, remove all clothes". <G>

    Seems like should have been able to wash what was wearing....


    For a while at the store we had "The Mad <Poop>er": would poop next
    to one of the toilets in the Mens Room stalls. Fortunately the
    Corporate Haz Mat rules prohibited most of us from having to clean it up
    as we had not gone through the training. That left Management and L.P.
    Most of supervisors and managers were female, so either couldn't go in
    or we'd have to close and guard the door for a while. And L.P. was also
    about half female staff. And the males sometimes didn't have time.
    Ended up we'd just close and seal the stall door, put an Out of Order
    sign up, and leave for the Cleaning Crew.
    Or the cartoon, where the bear is coming out of the woods, and
    he tells the man "I wouldn't go in there for awhile". <G>

    Bleah! Enough to gag a maggot!


    Mine is a "HurryCane" that was ordered through the Doctor
    Leonard's catalog...and my walker may have been ordered through
    it as well.
    Hey neat! Has a wheel on the bottom to help it move along! <rs!> The
    self-standing feature makes sense: I've and others have leaned their
    cane against a wall, hung on a counter - bam! falls to the floor. And
    sometimes that floor is a long ways down!!
    If I am going to have to stand for a long time, I will take the
    walker with me. Otherwise, I use the cane.

    I've seen the walkers that convert into a seat: seems convenient to have
    a chair available but some look a little cumbersome.


    We've had snow the last three nights. Wednesday night got about 1-2
    inches of fairly light snow -- maybe had a top crust: after a while all
    the specifics run together; just deal with it. Thursday night around 2"
    but was soggy and heavier. Last night more snow but looks like maybe a
    ". Is a little foggy out there: sensor here at the house said 99%
    humidity but I can see the streetlight at the end of the block clearly.
    Also right at freezing, so don't know yet if icy.
    Maybe some snow in far north Arkansas later this week, but
    nothing further south. Meterological Spring starts March 1, with
    the vernal equinox on March 20 (I think). But, I've seen snow
    here as late as April 19 on 2 occasions. It didn't stick, but it
    was "eye candy". However, what moisture was on the roads, froze
    to black ice overnight.

    And that black ice is not fun! This morning 29 and they were talking
    fog in the area but looking out could see the streetlight clearly; I'm
    up on a hill so maybe a light fog along the River. Early did see a
    couple of cars with their wipers going but also some not - either on intermittant or the drivers didn't need. The walks aren't slippery here
    -- took some electronics recycling out a while ago; didn't put it out
    last night when took the rest of the trash out as didn't want the
    cardboard boxes to get soggy if warmed up overnight.



    This morning's TV weather forecast indicated the temperatures would stay
    in the lower 30's all day and tomorrow - I think she likes GFS. The one
    I get from Norway during the mailrun probably uses ECMWF is indicating
    around freezing all day then dropping to 20 overnight.
    I thought the GFS was cold biased, but lately, it has been the
    GEM (Canadian).

    I've just begun to notice the model names -- usually ECMWF, GFS and NAM
    as three separate charts but sometimes the TV meteorologist will chart
    them together and a mess fo various coloured lines on the chart. US
    viewers have about one or two seconds at most to try to figure out the
    thing before the next graphic is put up. Looks impressive! And if I
    was really-really into weather analysis I'd be looking up the websites
    myself.


    Meteorology is such an inexact science...but so many feel that
    the weather folks are the only ones who can be wrong, and still
    keep their jobs.

    That and financial advising!


    Barry_Martin_3@
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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Mon Jan 27 10:03:00 2020

    Hi Daryl!

    But, I doubt I'd bounce...not much insulation back there.
    So you're trying to tell me you don't have a hot butt? ...And why??!!
    It's broken...got a huge crack right down the middle. :P But,
    at least the crack is vertical instead of horizontal...because if
    it was horizontal, and I fell out of bed, I'd hear "Be-Duh,
    Be-Duh, Be-Duh", as the cheeks flapped together. :P

    Seems likes if you rolled out of bed things would line up and same
    result!



    I guess it's detailed! Most of that information I expect to have been
    already entered into my on-going medical records, I do have a probably
    quarter-sheet with my prescriptions, dosages, who issued and why and
    another quarter-sheet listing doctors (including dentist). Phone has a
    scroll for preferred hospital, medical doctor, and contact info.
    I give them a fresh sheet every time...in case their computers
    crash and they lose the data, or they get hit with
    ransomware...which quite a few medical facilities have had happen
    to them recently.

    A possibility! My history is relatively simple so I can remember. Or
    at least approximately remember: like I know I factured the right femur
    on Easter Sunday morning -- it's the year I'd need to research. OTOH
    long enough ago completely healed.



    Looking at your list it might be a good idea to add another sheet (might
    have to go half!) of medical history summary. ...The quarter-sheet size
    folds and fits in with the insurance cards - all together in my wallet.
    It's already on 8 1/2x11 pages...11 pages long. I do need to
    send an updated copy of that to MedicAlert, though.

    "Hey George! We need to buy another hard drive to store this stuff!"


    <Coronavirus>
    Yes, and this isn't the first time in history travelling has spread
    disease. Spanish caused some sickness to the Incas comes to mind.
    They've got cases in Canada, and the US, and it's spreading
    rapidly to Europe and elsewhere.

    Yes; glad I don't have any travel plans for a while. OTOH we have a lot
    of international students in the area so could be brought here.



    Glad I don't have any travel plans for the next several months.
    Well, I do, but it'll be by train...to Louisiana in July,
    2020...then to Mississippi in June, 2021...then, that's my last
    out of state trip.

    Maybe! :)


    I'm into heavy drinking, but I stay sober. <G>
    Maybe try tapering off froma 16 oz glass to an 8!
    Doctors advise you to drink eight eight ounce glasses of water
    a day. Too much liquid sets my colon off, and to me, plain water
    is too bland.

    I like my water on the rocks! (Which is a hare more funny because Dean
    Martin is playing on Pandora currently.)


    I'm drinking at least 2 liters of flavored water a day...and in
    the summer, that amount doubles.

    Daryl bellies up to the juice bar, orders a flavoured water on the
    rocks, "and make that a double!".



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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Wed Jan 29 02:48:46 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 21-Jan-2020 08:55 <=-

    Shorter humans might be at an advantage: they can hide amongst the
    tall ones!!
    One of my sisters is quite short, but also was quite athletic... she
    was able to play basketball and field hockey quite well... seemed
    to be able to run between the legs of the taller players... ;)
    Haha!! Probably being lower to the ground has a sneaky advantage in
    better stability: the tall ones start to fall over reaching down to
    her!

    She also was very wiry and agile... and very well coordinated... :)

    Yes, if you hadn't eaten for some time, were feeling fine, then
    popped in a piece of gum there does seem to be a correlation. I would
    probably try again with a different 'introduction': different / known
    non-headache-causing food, different led-in time, and try the gum
    experiment. OTOH if you already suspected a saccherin-induced
    migrane I'd say the result was conclusive.
    By the time the small piece of gum triggered it, I'd already stopped
    using regular foods sweetened with saccherine...the larger quantities
    were pretty conclusive as it was... the gum just clinched it...
    That does seem rather conclusive!
    I figured so... :)
    Relatively easy enough to avoid foods with saccherine so no real need
    to get a headache while trying to tweak for "I can have just a little".

    No need to even deal with "just a little"... avoidance was the best
    policy... ;)

    And when she comes to, dinner is on the table... ;)
    And all over the stove, the walls.... <ggg>
    You must have let Autumn help... <G>
    Spread the blame? And fun?!
    Exactly... <G>
    LIS some time back Autumn loves to eat pancakes and help with the
    preparation, especially the mixing part. She had a fascination with
    mixing the dry mix and sometimes got a little over-exuberant. Now she
    kind of sneaks that into the occasional overmixing of the batter.
    Rarely splatters, but sometimes that bowl starts to spin pretty good!
    She's learned some control of the exuberance, then.... :) And still
    has fun doing the cooking... :)
    Yes, essentially rules-learning: mixing the dry mix really fast may be
    fun but makes a mess the adults don't like. Mixing slower might not
    be quite as much fun but can do it longer because doesn't make the mess the adults don't like. And the pouring of the batter into shapes,
    well, that's legally playing with food! <g>

    Besides, by now, she's probably learning that by not making too much of
    a mess, the finished product is better, since the proportions are more
    like they should be (even if she doesn't realize that's the reason)... :)

    She also gets to make a pancake: batter is poured into her special
    pitcher -- a metal creamer. She can make whatever size (well, not
    HUGE!), shape, pattern, etc., pancake she wants.
    Size being limited by the amount of batter and the size of the pan,
    for one thing... ;)
    Yes. LIS earlier, sort of a legal playing with her food, plus participating in creating the meal. OTOH it's hers and only hers.

    Yup... learning that cooking can be fun... ;) In fact, one of my
    childhood cookbooks was called just that... Fun With Cooking.. :)

    True... the more one reads labels, the less one wants to have much to
    do with the heavily processed foods.... :)
    Rule #1: Beware of long ingredient lists.
    Rule #2: Beware of ingredients with unpronounceable names.
    Rule #3: Learn which unpronounceable names are for good
    ingredients... ;)
    That's true! Not all short names are good and not all long names are
    bad. Not all natural ingredients are good. A cup of hemlock,
    Socrates?

    Among other things... :)

    <egg nog>
    Didn't have any with alcohol this year: didn't have any in the
    evening.
    Some people don't wait for evening... at least not at an all-day
    party... ;)
    There's a country-western song "It's 5 o'clock Somewhere". :)
    Yup.... :)
    They play that on the PBS stations?!
    Of course not (at least not usually [g])... But I do have some other
    experiences besides PBS... ;)
    Nancy! You wild woman you! <bseg>

    I hung out at the campus radio station when I was in college... Wide
    range of music there, from top 40 to oldies, to jazz, to progressive,
    with even some folk, C&W, and classical, depending on which student DJ
    was doing the show.... ;) Heavy metal was just coming in before I
    graduated... ;)

    BTW, for some reason the Iowa Public Television network changed its
    name to IowaPBS the first of the year. Suppose has something to do
    with the costs of obtaining PBS programming.
    Or someone wanted to keep it short and sweet... ;)
    The Chief Engineer??!! The old way had the various television
    stations in the state identified by their call letters: locally KQIN.
    Now simply IowaPBS. So all dozen or so stations now ar eidentified the same. (And yes, that was the electronics nerd answer as a semi-joke reply. <g>)
    Although "I-o-wa P-B-S" is easier and faster to say than "Iowa Public Television Network". :)

    Unless the corporate heads explain it out, guess you'll not really
    know... ;)

    And good news: AFAICT no one lost their job with the merger (?) / new affiliation: Abby and Dan are the two humans doing most of the
    hosting, DanBot the robot (who thinks he's Dan's son) are still
    present. Not recalling if I've seen Steve, the guy who plays the
    guitar -- sort of.

    Just have to keep your eyes and ears open, I guess....

    ... A shining beacon of garish neon signs and tourist traps
    For some reason thinking "Little Shop of Horrors" when read 'tourist traps' ==> slurp!

    That's even more of a trap...! I only thought the tagline referred to
    the shops with over-priced merchandise emblazoned with area logos... and price-y restaurants with a local-ish theme... ;)

    ... Cat Haiku
    Oh no! Big One
    has been trapped by newspaper!
    Cat to the rescue!

    POUNCE!! <G> (rattle, crinkle, shred.... ;) )

    ttyl neb

    ... I'm coming Dear, I only have 437 more messages to read.

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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to BARRY MARTIN on Wed Jan 29 08:44:00 2020
    Barry,

    It's broken...got a huge crack right down the middle. :P But,
    at least the crack is vertical instead of horizontal...because if
    it was horizontal, and I fell out of bed, I'd hear "Be-Duh,
    Be-Duh, Be-Duh", as the cheeks flapped together. :P

    Seems likes if you rolled out of bed things would line up and same BM>result!

    As klutzy as I am, that's a possibility. Late yesterday afternoon, I
    woke up from a nap, and felt nauseous, like I was getting an attack of
    food poisoning. So, I took my dentures out, and took an anti-nausea
    tablet, which did its job. Unfortunately, if I start vomiting, it takes
    a large dose of Zofran to stop it. I either ate something that didn't
    agree with me, or ate too much.

    A possibility! My history is relatively simple so I can remember. Or
    at least approximately remember: like I know I factured the right femur BM>on Easter Sunday morning -- it's the year I'd need to research. OTOH BM>long enough ago completely healed.

    Days where they shoot off firecrackers, etc., are busy for the ER's,
    with injuries. Personally, I feel that ONLY the professional shows
    should have access to them. Folks with PTSD, or with sensitive animals
    (i.e. dachshunds), suffer greatly, and it sounds like repeated gunfire.
    Plus, in some cases, it is.

    It's already on 8 1/2x11 pages...11 pages long. I do need to
    send an updated copy of that to MedicAlert, though.

    "Hey George! We need to buy another hard drive to store this stuff!"

    "640K of RAM ought to be enough for anybody". - Bill Gates, 1980.

    <Coronavirus>

    Yes; glad I don't have any travel plans for a while. OTOH we have a lot BM>of international students in the area so could be brought here.

    I saw where several airlines have cancelled flights to and from there.
    I heard a rumor that apparently, it was incubating in a Canadian medical
    lab, and it was smuggled out, and released. I think I saw another story
    where they were able to replicate it in a lab, to where they could
    possibly get a vaccine for it. But, it spreads like wildfire, and like
    with so many other illnesses, in the incubation period, there are no
    symptoms.

    I've been having a lot of angina lately...and am going to the
    cardiologist this morning (no, he doesn't work for American Greetings
    <G>). In the past, they think it's caused by acid reflux (GERD), but I'm
    taking prescription strength Prilosec. Yet, I think it may be reducing
    my B12 level. I don't think there's a single medication out there
    without any kind of side effect. But, without cardiac clearance, they
    won't do that surgery on me next week.

    Glad I don't have any travel plans for the next several months.
    Well, I do, but it'll be by train...to Louisiana in July,
    2020...then to Mississippi in June, 2021...then, that's my last
    out of state trip.

    Maybe! :)

    Health and finances aren't going to allow it. :(

    Doctors advise you to drink eight eight ounce glasses of water
    a day. Too much liquid sets my colon off, and to me, plain water
    is too bland.

    I like my water on the rocks! (Which is a hare more funny because Dean BM>Martin is playing on Pandora currently.)

    You could be like Eddie Valiant in "Who Framed Roger Rabbit" who
    ordered Scotch On The Rocks...and it was.

    Daryl bellies up to the juice bar, orders a flavoured water on the
    rocks, "and make that a double!".

    Then, he doubles over when he heads to the bathroom...but, that's my pee-rogative. <BG>

    Daryl


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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to NANCY BACKUS on Wed Jan 29 09:19:00 2020
    Nancy,

    I hung out at the campus radio station when I was in college... Wide NB>range of music there, from top 40 to oldies, to jazz, to progressive, NB>with even some folk, C&W, and classical, depending on which student DJ NB>was doing the show.... ;) Heavy metal was just coming in before I NB>graduated... ;)

    With being a Radio/TV/Film major in college, I did some work for the
    campus radio station. For nearly the last 30 years, though, my radio has
    been "amateur radio".

    Just have to keep your eyes and ears open, I guess....

    But, my eyes burn if I hold them open, and the hearing aid bugs like
    to get into my ears. :P

    Oh no! Big One
    has been trapped by newspaper!
    Cat to the rescue!

    POUNCE!! <G> (rattle, crinkle, shred.... ;) )

    That's about the size of it.

    ... I'm coming Dear, I only have 437 more messages to read.

    You must have one heck of a QWK mail backlog. :P

    Daryl


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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Wed Jan 29 08:42:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    Shorter humans might be at an advantage: they can hide amongst the
    tall ones!!
    One of my sisters is quite short, but also was quite athletic... she
    was able to play basketball and field hockey quite well... seemed
    to be able to run between the legs of the taller players... ;)
    Haha!! Probably being lower to the ground has a sneaky advantage in
    better stability: the tall ones start to fall over reaching down to
    her!
    She also was very wiry and agile... and very well coordinated...
    :)

    All beneficial for playing basketball!


    Yes, if you hadn't eaten for some time, were feeling fine, then
    popped in a piece of gum there does seem to be a correlation. I would
    probably try again with a different 'introduction': different / known
    non-headache-causing food, different led-in time, and try the gum
    experiment. OTOH if you already suspected a saccherin-induced
    migrane I'd say the result was conclusive.
    By the time the small piece of gum triggered it, I'd already stopped
    using regular foods sweetened with saccherine...the larger quantities
    were pretty conclusive as it was... the gum just clinched it...
    That does seem rather conclusive!
    I figured so... :)
    Relatively easy enough to avoid foods with saccherine so no real need
    to get a headache while trying to tweak for "I can have just a little".
    No need to even deal with "just a little"... avoidance was the
    best policy... ;)

    Overall yes.



    And when she comes to, dinner is on the table... ;)
    And all over the stove, the walls.... <ggg>
    You must have let Autumn help... <G>
    Spread the blame? And fun?!
    Exactly... <G>
    LIS some time back Autumn loves to eat pancakes and help with the
    preparation, especially the mixing part. She had a fascination with
    mixing the dry mix and sometimes got a little over-exuberant. Now she
    kind of sneaks that into the occasional overmixing of the batter.
    Rarely splatters, but sometimes that bowl starts to spin pretty good!
    She's learned some control of the exuberance, then.... :) And still
    has fun doing the cooking... :)
    Yes, essentially rules-learning: mixing the dry mix really fast may be
    fun but makes a mess the adults don't like. Mixing slower might not
    be quite as much fun but can do it longer because doesn't make the mess the adults don't like. And the pouring of the batter into shapes,
    well, that's legally playing with food! <g>
    Besides, by now, she's probably learning that by not making too
    much of a mess, the finished product is better, since the
    proportions are more like they should be (even if she doesn't
    realize that's the reason)... :)

    Yes: "sublte learning". Though that type of learning has been going on probably since Cave Man Times: when Ogg throw stick on fire make pretty
    sparks but some pretty sparks burn Ogg - wrong type heat! Ogg learn to
    place stick in fire. And no, Autumn has not been burned while cooking.


    She also gets to make a pancake: batter is poured into her special
    pitcher -- a metal creamer. She can make whatever size (well, not
    HUGE!), shape, pattern, etc., pancake she wants.
    Size being limited by the amount of batter and the size of the pan,
    for one thing... ;)
    Yes. LIS earlier, sort of a legal playing with her food, plus participating in creating the meal. OTOH it's hers and only hers.
    Yup... learning that cooking can be fun... ;) In fact, one of my childhood cookbooks was called just that... Fun With Cooking..
    :)

    Some adult cookbooks should better incorporate that concept, especially
    for the everyday cooking. OTOH I'm not sure how I'd react to seeing a
    dish of spaghetti and meatballs presented with the meatballs arranged
    in a smiley face pattern!!



    <egg nog>
    Didn't have any with alcohol this year: didn't have any in the
    evening.
    Some people don't wait for evening... at least not at an all-day
    party... ;)
    There's a country-western song "It's 5 o'clock Somewhere". :)
    Yup.... :)
    They play that on the PBS stations?!
    Of course not (at least not usually [g])... But I do have some other
    experiences besides PBS... ;)
    Nancy! You wild woman you! <bseg>
    I hung out at the campus radio station when I was in college...
    Wide range of music there, from top 40 to oldies, to jazz, to
    progressive, with even some folk, C&W, and classical, depending
    on which student DJ was doing the show.... ;) Heavy metal was
    just coming in before I graduated... ;)

    Sort of sounds (pun?) like my Pandora station: nothing I'd classify as
    'heavy metal' -- maybe "approaching but still a block away". ...When I
    first moved out here in 1975 there was a station which advertised it as
    a heavy metal station; per my 'Boston standards' (raised 50 miles north)
    wasn't close. (Rarely listened to either -- sometimes on station
    scanning something playing of interest,)



    BTW, for some reason the Iowa Public Television network changed its
    name to IowaPBS the first of the year. Suppose has something to do
    with the costs of obtaining PBS programming.
    Or someone wanted to keep it short and sweet... ;)
    The Chief Engineer??!! The old way had the various television
    stations in the state identified by their call letters: locally KQIN.
    Now simply IowaPBS. So all dozen or so stations now ar eidentified the same. (And yes, that was the electronics nerd answer as a semi-joke reply. <g>)
    Although "I-o-wa P-B-S" is easier and faster to say than "Iowa Public Television Network". :)
    Unless the corporate heads explain it out, guess you'll not
    really know... ;)

    No, and I'm not all that interested in finding out. More just the
    mental notation of the change and possibly relaxation of the some of the
    FCC's rules. Last year the local station was identified as KQIN, with
    the call sign; this year just "IowaPBS" so don't know if it's the Quad
    Cities' or Iowa City station (other than what channel one tunes to: 36.x
    and 12.x, respectively). ...Slipping into that technical mode again!



    And good news: AFAICT no one lost their job with the merger (?) / new affiliation: Abby and Dan are the two humans doing most of the
    hosting, DanBot the robot (who thinks he's Dan's son) are still
    present. Not recalling if I've seen Steve, the guy who plays the
    guitar -- sort of.
    Just have to keep your eyes and ears open, I guess....

    He's still on the website.


    ... A shining beacon of garish neon signs and tourist traps
    For some reason thinking "Little Shop of Horrors" when read 'tourist traps' ==> slurp!
    That's even more of a trap...! I only thought the tagline
    referred to the shops with over-priced merchandise emblazoned
    with area logos... and price-y restaurants with a local-ish
    theme... ;)

    Probably more the intent. And of course tourists are not trapped such
    as with a bear trap or trapdoor floor but beckoned in to a shop and
    enticed to buy an overpriced imprinted mug when they have a perfectly
    good set of matching mugs at home.



    ... Cat Haiku
    Oh no! Big One
    has been trapped by newspaper!
    Cat to the rescue!
    POUNCE!! <G> (rattle, crinkle, shred.... ;) )

    <chuckle> When I had my dog I did learn quickly not to leave paperwork
    on the floor: sometimes pawed at, sometimes sat/laid on. OTOH we did
    leave newspaper on the carpet: she liked to run and slide on the sheets.


    ... I'm coming Dear, I only have 437 more messages to read.

    Almost caught up!



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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Thu Jan 30 15:38:00 2020

    Hi Daryl!

    It's broken...got a huge crack right down the middle. :P But,
    at least the crack is vertical instead of horizontal...because if
    it was horizontal, and I fell out of bed, I'd hear "Be-Duh,
    Be-Duh, Be-Duh", as the cheeks flapped together. :P
    Seems likes if you rolled out of bed things would line up and same
    result!
    As klutzy as I am, that's a possibility. Late yesterday
    afternoon, I woke up from a nap, and felt nauseous, like I was
    getting an attack of food poisoning. So, I took my dentures out,
    and took an anti-nausea tablet, which did its job. Unfortunately,
    if I start vomiting, it takes a large dose of Zofran to stop it.
    I either ate something that didn't agree with me, or ate too
    much.

    Thatw asn't granola, that was rat bait! Maybe your body was doing a
    little early Sring Cleaning. (Hope you're feeling better.)


    A possibility! My history is relatively simple so I can remember. Or
    at least approximately remember: like I know I factured the right femur
    on Easter Sunday morning -- it's the year I'd need to research. OTOH
    long enough ago completely healed.
    Days where they shoot off firecrackers, etc., are busy for the
    ER's, with injuries. Personally, I feel that ONLY the
    professional shows should have access to them. Folks with PTSD,
    or with sensitive animals (i.e. dachshunds), suffer greatly, and
    it sounds like repeated gunfire. Plus, in some cases, it is.

    Lots of pets are frightened and confused by sudden noises: usually meant something not good happening imprinted from their wild critter days.
    Iowa passed a law a few years ago allowing purchase of "low level"
    fireworks -- there's a term for it; used to be just minor items like
    sparklers allowed. The good news is most of the cities and towns
    restricted the hours one could set them off: locally twice a year:

    Fireworks Ordinance. Consumer fireworks are restricted to the night of
    December 31 from 10:00 p.m. until 12:30 a.m., immediate following day.
    Also, July 3 and July 4 from 2:00 p.m. until 11:00 p.m. each day.

    I will admit the first 4th of July it was some sight! "Everyone" had fireworks! (Not literally, not us....) The private displays were
    outdoing the City's.



    It's already on 8 1/2x11 pages...11 pages long. I do need to
    send an updated copy of that to MedicAlert, though.
    "Hey George! We need to buy another hard drive to store this stuff!"
    "640K of RAM ought to be enough for anybody". - Bill Gates,
    1980.

    A couple years later a 1 MB hard drive for my DEC Rainbow 100 computer
    was $1,000! No, I didn't get one.


    <Coronavirus>
    Yes; glad I don't have any travel plans for a while. OTOH we have a lot
    of international students in the area so could be brought here.
    I saw where several airlines have cancelled flights to and from
    there. I heard a rumor that apparently, it was incubating in a
    Canadian medical lab, and it was smuggled out, and released. I
    think I saw another story where they were able to replicate it in
    a lab, to where they could possibly get a vaccine for it. But, it
    spreads like wildfire, and like with so many other illnesses, in
    the incubation period, there are no symptoms.

    I hadn't heard about the Canadian medical lab -- the laid-back Canadians
    being sneaky and doing biomedical terrorism??!! (That's a joke folks --
    no fair taking a snippet!) As for spreading rapidly, can understand: by
    the time figure out what to stop/detain a lot has already slipped by.

    Also saw on the news where China is bulding two (?) hospitals as fast as
    they can because of the outbreak. Makes sense, but I'd be a bit
    concerned with 'construction details': news shot showed cement being
    poured. Takes a while for cement to cure, and some of that medical
    equipment is rather heavy! And where is the hospital equipment coming
    from? It's not just stored in a warehouse. And then staffing.


    I've been having a lot of angina lately...and am going to the cardiologist this morning (no, he doesn't work for American
    Greetings <G>). In the past, they think it's caused by acid
    reflux (GERD), but I'm taking prescription strength Prilosec.
    Yet, I think it may be reducing my B12 level. I don't think
    there's a single medication out there without any kind of side
    effect. But, without cardiac clearance, they won't do that
    surgery on me next week.

    The heart's nothing to pooh-pooh with, so a good thing to have it
    checked out. Could be due to what caused your nausea, could be a
    subluxated anterior rib head, could be... get it checked! (Which you
    did.)



    Glad I don't have any travel plans for the next several months.
    Well, I do, but it'll be by train...to Louisiana in July, 2020...then to Mississippi in June, 2021...then, that's my last
    out of state trip.
    Maybe! :)
    Health and finances aren't going to allow it. :(

    Well spending all your money on visits to cardiologists! <g> (If dead
    you're certainly not going; at least by checking it out you'll be alive
    which is a chance of going!)


    Doctors advise you to drink eight eight ounce glasses of water
    a day. Too much liquid sets my colon off, and to me, plain water
    is too bland.
    I like my water on the rocks! (Which is a hare more funny because Dean
    Martin is playing on Pandora currently.)
    You could be like Eddie Valiant in "Who Framed Roger Rabbit"
    who ordered Scotch On The Rocks...and it was.

    <Miming looking into crystal ball> I'm seeing a woman - no! it's a man dressed in a plaid skirt. Ah! A Scottish man dressed in a kilt! He's
    on a rocky beach. ...It morphed to Blake Shelton singing "Some Beach"!



    Daryl bellies up to the juice bar, orders a flavoured water on the
    rocks, "and make that a double!".
    Then, he doubles over when he heads to the bathroom...but,
    that's my pee-rogative. <BG>

    There have been times when crawling would have been more comfortable
    than walking with the kidney stone!


    * OLX 1.53 * What happens if you get scared half to death twice?

    Initial reflex answer is "you're dead" but really have a quarter life left.


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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to BARRY MARTIN on Fri Jan 31 00:52:00 2020
    Barry,

    Some adult cookbooks should better incorporate that concept, especially BM>for the everyday cooking. OTOH I'm not sure how I'd react to seeing a BM>dish of spaghetti and meatballs presented with the meatballs arranged
    in a smiley face pattern!!

    Or like the picture where eggs and bacon is set a certain way. It's a
    hint from your wife that she wants to get frisky. <G>

    ... I'm coming Dear, I only have 437 more messages to read.

    Almost caught up!

    Won't be for long. <G>

    Daryl


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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to BARRY MARTIN on Sat Feb 1 03:06:00 2020
    Barry,

    (Continued from previous message)

    Hmm: so still need to figure if promise or threat!

    Both. It's the limit I have OLX set for...but as you saw, the last
    message was rather lengthy...but I *HAD* to include those "Disorder In
    The Court" deals...and those ACTUALLY occurred!!

    BTW a year ago would not have been a problem with possible thawing: was BM>-33 here on January 31, 2019, ...Plus of that number today!

    I remember seeing Wind Chill Warnings last winter across portions of
    the Dakotas and Minnesota, with wind chills approaching or exceeding
    -100 degrees. Exposed flesh will freeze in seconds!!

    If it's a blend the bad guesses are going to wash out the good guesses. BM>OTOH could sort of see blending: something's bound to be halfway right!

    The weather rock is better, as follows:

    Condition: Forecast:

    Stone Is Wet Rain
    Stone Is Dry Not Raining
    Shadow On Ground Sunny
    White On Top Snowing
    Can't See Stone Foggy
    Swinging Stone Windy
    Stone Bouncing Earthquake
    Stone Gone Tornado

    Seems legitimate to me. :)

    I've heard of kids wanting them installed in their home, where
    they don't have to constantly break their piggy banks. :P

    Just get dad a new wallet for birthday and Christmas!

    The legend is that if you give one as a gift, it's good luck if a
    little money is put in it. The thing is, they don't specify the amount,
    or denomination of the bill.

    Or, the deal where "You can't tell me that preacher is
    non-denominational...I saw his eyes light up when that $50 bill was put
    in the offering plate". <G>

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to BARRY MARTIN on Sat Feb 1 03:18:00 2020
    Barry,

    Thatw asn't granola, that was rat bait! Maybe your body was doing a BM>little early Sring Cleaning. (Hope you're feeling better.)

    Thankfully, I am. While I have a deal with the local ambulance company
    (I pay a yearly fee, that covers "emergency runs"), I'd rather not have
    to go to the hospital...driving or in an ambulance.

    At Arkansas Urology yesterday, in doing bloodwork before surgery (to
    check my testosterone level, and whether my kidneys were working
    properly), they have apparently stuck me so many times in the crook of
    both arms/elbows, that scar tissue has formed. As a result, the veins
    "pop" or "roll", and no blood is obtained. Moving the needle is
    excruciatingly painful.

    Lots of pets are frightened and confused by sudden noises: usually meant BM>something not good happening imprinted from their wild critter days.

    Good point.

    Iowa passed a law a few years ago allowing purchase of "low level" BM>fireworks -- there's a term for it; used to be just minor items like BM>sparklers allowed. The good news is most of the cities and towns BM>restricted the hours one could set them off: locally twice a year:

    I wish that was the case everywhere. But, the temperature of those
    sparklers can exceed 2000 degrees. Around the "fireworks holidays",
    emergency rooms are filled with folks who suffered injuries in using
    them. And, someone noted, "During The Super Bowl, the Emergency Rooms
    are basically empty...but afterwards, they fill up".

    Fireworks Ordinance. Consumer fireworks are restricted to the night of
    December 31 from 10:00 p.m. until 12:30 a.m., immediate following day.
    Also, July 3 and July 4 from 2:00 p.m. until 11:00 p.m. each day.

    While they are "prohibited" here, folks still shoot them off. But,
    you're afraid to turn them in, as if word gets back that you called the
    police on them, they'll vandalize your property in revenge. I wish there
    was a multi-hour/day EMP that would basically render all fireworks useless...EXCEPT for those done by the professional shows, who had a
    special deal to neutralize that EMP. Yet, the thugs would find a way to
    get it for themselves. The only way to get them banned is if the area
    has had such an extreme drought for several weeks, and fire danger is so extreme.

    A couple years later a 1 MB hard drive for my DEC Rainbow 100 computer BM>was $1,000! No, I didn't get one.

    The price of RAM had gone done years ago.

    I hadn't heard about the Canadian medical lab -- the laid-back Canadians BM>being sneaky and doing biomedical terrorism??!! (That's a joke folks -- BM>no fair taking a snippet!) As for spreading rapidly, can understand: by BM>the time figure out what to stop/detain a lot has already slipped by.

    Apparently, there was a lab in China, for studying pathogens, and it
    was "intentionally released".

    Also saw on the news where China is bulding two (?) hospitals as fast as BM>they can because of the outbreak. Makes sense, but I'd be a bit BM>concerned with 'construction details': news shot showed cement being BM>poured. Takes a while for cement to cure, and some of that medical BM>equipment is rather heavy! And where is the hospital equipment coming BM>from? It's not just stored in a warehouse. And then staffing.

    Never mind ordering a product shipped from China, and related areas;
    although I'd wonder if the virus would survive the trip "across the
    pond".

    The heart's nothing to pooh-pooh with, so a good thing to have it
    checked out. Could be due to what caused your nausea, could be a BM>subluxated anterior rib head, could be... get it checked! (Which you BM>did.)

    I still haven't heard from my gastrointerologist...but I did set up an complete physical and full blood work. The A1C level for diabetes,
    according to the American Diabetes Association, is 6.5 -- I've been
    within half a point of that for several years, but have never exceeded it...and, I'm most likely to develop Type 2. Obviously, that'd be a
    major game changer. When my cardiologist said "You're overweight", I
    said "Tell me something I don't know". :P

    Well spending all your money on visits to cardiologists! <g> (If dead BM>you're certainly not going; at least by checking it out you'll be alive BM>which is a chance of going!)

    Like the guy who wakes up in the morgue, and wonders "If I'm alive,
    what am I doing here?? And, if I'm dead, how come I have to go to the bathroom??". :P

    <Miming looking into crystal ball> I'm seeing a woman - no! it's a man BM>dressed in a plaid skirt. Ah! A Scottish man dressed in a kilt! He's
    on a rocky beach. ...It morphed to Blake Shelton singing "Some Beach"!

    That's a funny song. I also like the one with Alan Jackson and Jimmy Buffet..."It's 5:00 somewhere".

    There have been times when crawling would have been more comfortable
    than walking with the kidney stone!

    Agreed there...some have been on the floor in tears for the pain.

    * OLX 1.53 * What happens if you get scared half to death twice?

    Initial reflex answer is "you're dead" but really have a quarter life left.

    Cats are lucky. :P

    ... American Joseph Gayetty invented modern toilet tissue in 1857.

    Good thing he did...corncobs hurt too much, and catalogs were messy.
    :P

    Daryl


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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Daryl Stout on Mon Feb 3 02:14:38 2020
    Quoting Daryl Stout to NANCY BACKUS on 29-Jan-2020 09:19 <=-

    I hung out at the campus radio station when I was in college... Wide
    range of music there, from top 40 to oldies, to jazz, to progressive,
    with even some folk, C&W, and classical, depending on which student
    DJ was doing the show.... ;) Heavy metal was just coming in before I
    graduated... ;)

    With being a Radio/TV/Film major in college, I did some work for the campus radio station. For nearly the last 30 years, though, my radio
    has been "amateur radio".

    It's been almost 50 years since I was in college, now.... haven't worked
    on a station since then... but do have fond memories of my days there...

    ... I'm coming Dear, I only have 437 more messages to read.

    You must have one heck of a QWK mail backlog. :P

    That was more accurate back in the heyday of bbsing, when my daily
    GENEALOGY downloads could be over 500 messages, even while downloading
    every day without fail... thankfully that's not so much the case
    now..... ;)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Mon Feb 3 03:11:32 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 29-Jan-2020 08:42 <=-

    Shorter humans might be at an advantage: they can hide amongst the
    tall ones!!
    One of my sisters is quite short, but also was quite athletic... she
    was able to play basketball and field hockey quite well... seemed
    to be able to run between the legs of the taller players... ;)
    Haha!! Probably being lower to the ground has a sneaky advantage in
    better stability: the tall ones start to fall over reaching down to
    her!
    She also was very wiry and agile... and very well coordinated... :)
    All beneficial for playing basketball!

    Yup.

    LIS some time back Autumn loves to eat pancakes and help with the
    preparation, especially the mixing part. She had a fascination with
    mixing the dry mix and sometimes got a little over-exuberant. Now she
    kind of sneaks that into the occasional overmixing of the batter.
    Rarely splatters, but sometimes that bowl starts to spin pretty good!
    She's learned some control of the exuberance, then.... :) And still
    has fun doing the cooking... :)
    Yes, essentially rules-learning: mixing the dry mix really fast may be
    fun but makes a mess the adults don't like. Mixing slower might not
    be quite as much fun but can do it longer because doesn't make the mess
    the adults don't like. And the pouring of the batter into shapes,
    well, that's legally playing with food! <g>
    Besides, by now, she's probably learning that by not making too much
    of a mess, the finished product is better, since the proportions are
    more like they should be (even if she doesn't realize that's the
    reason)... :)
    Yes: "subtle learning". Though that type of learning has been going
    on probably since Cave Man Times: when Ogg throw stick on fire make
    pretty sparks but some pretty sparks burn Ogg - wrong type heat! Ogg learn to place stick in fire. And no, Autumn has not been burned while cooking.

    That's a good thing...

    She also gets to make a pancake: batter is poured into her special
    pitcher -- a metal creamer. She can make whatever size (well, not
    HUGE!), shape, pattern, etc., pancake she wants.
    Size being limited by the amount of batter and the size of the pan,
    for one thing... ;)
    Yes. LIS earlier, sort of a legal playing with her food, plus
    participating in creating the meal. OTOH it's hers and only hers.
    Yup... learning that cooking can be fun... ;) In fact, one of my
    childhood cookbooks was called just that... Fun With Cooking.. :)
    Some adult cookbooks should better incorporate that concept,
    especially for the everyday cooking. OTOH I'm not sure how I'd react
    to seeing a dish of spaghetti and meatballs presented with the
    meatballs arranged in a smiley face pattern!!

    I don't remember that being the sort of thing they were referring to as
    having fun with cooking.... :) But the recipes were reasonably simple
    and produced good food... :)

    There's a country-western song "It's 5 o'clock Somewhere". :)
    Yup.... :)
    They play that on the PBS stations?!
    Of course not (at least not usually [g])... But I do have some other
    experiences besides PBS... ;)
    Nancy! You wild woman you! <bseg>
    I hung out at the campus radio station when I was in college... Wide
    range of music there, from top 40 to oldies, to jazz, to progressive,
    with even some folk, C&W, and classical, depending on which student
    DJ was doing the show.... ;) Heavy metal was just coming in before
    I graduated... ;)
    Sort of sounds (pun?) like my Pandora station: nothing I'd classify as 'heavy metal' -- maybe "approaching but still a block away". ...When
    I first moved out here in 1975 there was a station which advertised it
    as a heavy metal station; per my 'Boston standards' (raised 50 miles north) wasn't close.

    The midwest equivalent, perhaps.... <G>

    (Rarely listened to either -- sometimes on
    station scanning something playing of interest,)

    I wouldn't regularly listen to such... at least not on my own... ;)

    The old way had the various television stations in the state identified
    by their call letters: locally KQIN. Now simply IowaPBS. So all dozen
    or so stations now are identified the same.
    Although "I-o-wa P-B-S" is easier and faster to say than "Iowa Public
    Television Network". :)
    Unless the corporate heads explain it out, guess you'll not really
    know... ;)
    No, and I'm not all that interested in finding out. More just the
    mental notation of the change and possibly relaxation of the some of
    the FCC's rules. Last year the local station was identified as KQIN,
    with the call sign; this year just "IowaPBS" so don't know if it's the Quad Cities' or Iowa City station (other than what channel one tunes
    to: 36.x and 12.x, respectively). ...Slipping into that technical mode again!

    What I see as the most iffy part of it is not being able to tell just
    from listening which particular station you are tuned to... but that
    goes by the boards anyway when they announce all the different stations
    you might be listening to... eg here, "WXXI 91.5 Rochester, WXXY 90.3
    Houghton, streaming from wxxi.org, or from your phone app (etc)"

    And good news: AFAICT no one lost their job with the merger (?) / new
    affiliation: Abby and Dan are the two humans doing most of the
    hosting, DanBot the robot (who thinks he's Dan's son) are still
    present. Not recalling if I've seen Steve, the guy who plays the
    guitar -- sort of.
    Just have to keep your eyes and ears open, I guess....
    He's still on the website.

    As an icon, or actually doing things...?

    ... A shining beacon of garish neon signs and tourist traps
    For some reason thinking "Little Shop of Horrors" when read 'tourist
    traps' ==> slurp!
    That's even more of a trap...! I only thought the tagline referred
    to the shops with over-priced merchandise emblazoned with area
    logos... and price-y restaurants with a local-ish theme... ;)
    Probably more the intent. And of course tourists are not trapped such
    as with a bear trap or trapdoor floor but beckoned in to a shop and enticed to buy an overpriced imprinted mug when they have a perfectly
    good set of matching mugs at home.

    Exactly... :)

    ... Cat Haiku
    Oh no! Big One
    has been trapped by newspaper!
    Cat to the rescue!
    POUNCE!! <G> (rattle, crinkle, shred.... ;) )
    <chuckle> When I had my dog I did learn quickly not to leave
    paperwork on the floor: sometimes pawed at, sometimes sat/laid on.
    OTOH we did leave newspaper on the carpet: she liked to run and slide
    on the sheets.

    Which is fine if you are done with the paper... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Mon Feb 3 19:48:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    LIS some time back Autumn loves to eat pancakes and help with the
    preparation, especially the mixing part. She had a fascination with
    mixing the dry mix and sometimes got a little over-exuberant. Now she
    kind of sneaks that into the occasional overmixing of the batter.
    Rarely splatters, but sometimes that bowl starts to spin pretty good!
    She's learned some control of the exuberance, then.... :) And still
    has fun doing the cooking... :)
    Yes, essentially rules-learning: mixing the dry mix really fast may be
    fun but makes a mess the adults don't like. Mixing slower might not
    be quite as much fun but can do it longer because doesn't make the mess
    the adults don't like. And the pouring of the batter into shapes,
    well, that's legally playing with food! <g>
    Besides, by now, she's probably learning that by not making too much
    of a mess, the finished product is better, since the proportions are
    more like they should be (even if she doesn't realize that's the
    reason)... :)
    Yes: "subtle learning". Though that type of learning has been going
    on probably since Cave Man Times: when Ogg throw stick on fire make
    pretty sparks but some pretty sparks burn Ogg - wrong type heat! Ogg learn to place stick in fire. And no, Autumn has not been burned while cooking.
    That's a good thing...

    Agree. We're somewhat prepared for such an emergency but of course
    don't want it to happen. She will sometimes start to get a little close
    or careless and given a reminder warning. Better safe than sorry! We
    try not to get overly protective; hopefully coming across more as a 'we
    care about you'.


    She also gets to make a pancake: batter is poured into her special
    pitcher -- a metal creamer. She can make whatever size (well, not
    HUGE!), shape, pattern, etc., pancake she wants.
    Size being limited by the amount of batter and the size of the pan,
    for one thing... ;)
    Yes. LIS earlier, sort of a legal playing with her food, plus
    participating in creating the meal. OTOH it's hers and only hers.
    Yup... learning that cooking can be fun... ;) In fact, one of my
    childhood cookbooks was called just that... Fun With Cooking.. :)
    Some adult cookbooks should better incorporate that concept,
    especially for the everyday cooking. OTOH I'm not sure how I'd react
    to seeing a dish of spaghetti and meatballs presented with the
    meatballs arranged in a smiley face pattern!!
    I don't remember that being the sort of thing they were referring
    to as having fun with cooking.... :) But the recipes were
    reasonably simple and produced good food... :)

    We'll probably start introducing some simple meals shortly. LIS some
    times back I'm getting a little pancaked out; one of favourite meals
    so.... Not going to force her; same as she is given a choice for dinner
    and it's what we'll have. (She eats meats, vegetables, at home - just
    here she's on the Pancake Kick.)



    There's a country-western song "It's 5 o'clock Somewhere". :)
    Yup.... :)
    They play that on the PBS stations?!
    Of course not (at least not usually [g])... But I do have some other
    experiences besides PBS... ;)
    Nancy! You wild woman you! <bseg>
    I hung out at the campus radio station when I was in college... Wide
    range of music there, from top 40 to oldies, to jazz, to progressive,
    with even some folk, C&W, and classical, depending on which student
    DJ was doing the show.... ;) Heavy metal was just coming in before
    I graduated... ;)
    Sort of sounds (pun?) like my Pandora station: nothing I'd classify as 'heavy metal' -- maybe "approaching but still a block away". ...When
    I first moved out here in 1975 there was a station which advertised it
    as a heavy metal station; per my 'Boston standards' (raised 50 miles north) wasn't close.
    The midwest equivalent, perhaps.... <G>

    They thought so! Neither the Boston nor local version was something I
    was something I'm into, just there are some crazy little outlayign
    quirks in my musical and art tastes! :)



    The old way had the various television stations in the state identified
    by their call letters: locally KQIN. Now simply IowaPBS. So all dozen
    or so stations now are identified the same.
    Although "I-o-wa P-B-S" is easier and faster to say than "Iowa Public
    Television Network". :)
    Unless the corporate heads explain it out, guess you'll not really
    know... ;)
    No, and I'm not all that interested in finding out. More just the
    mental notation of the change and possibly relaxation of the some of
    the FCC's rules. Last year the local station was identified as KQIN,
    with the call sign; this year just "IowaPBS" so don't know if it's the Quad Cities' or Iowa City station (other than what channel one tunes
    to: 36.x and 12.x, respectively). ...Slipping into that technical mode again!
    What I see as the most iffy part of it is not being able to tell
    just from listening which particular station you are tuned to...
    but that goes by the boards anyway when they announce all the
    different stations you might be listening to... eg here, "WXXI
    91.5 Rochester, WXXY 90.3 Houghton, streaming from wxxi.org, or
    from your phone app (etc)"

    So essentially WXXY is repeating what originates on WXXI; essentially the
    same as the Iowa PBS network is the source and the transmitters
    throughout the state are the repeaters. I'm quite sure displaying
    "IowaPBS" is quite legal, just I like the call signs for identifcation
    from my old radio DXing days. ("DX" is [long] distance.)


    And good news: AFAICT no one lost their job with the merger (?) / new
    affiliation: Abby and Dan are the two humans doing most of the
    hosting, DanBot the robot (who thinks he's Dan's son) are still
    present. Not recalling if I've seen Steve, the guy who plays the
    guitar -- sort of.
    Just have to keep your eyes and ears open, I guess....
    He's still on the website.
    As an icon, or actually doing things...?

    So far I've just seen him in 'group' commercials advertising IowaPBS,
    nothing specifically of him.


    ... Cat Haiku
    Oh no! Big One
    has been trapped by newspaper!
    Cat to the rescue!
    POUNCE!! <G> (rattle, crinkle, shred.... ;) )
    <chuckle> When I had my dog I did learn quickly not to leave
    paperwork on the floor: sometimes pawed at, sometimes sat/laid on.
    OTOH we did leave newspaper on the carpet: she liked to run and slide
    on the sheets.
    Which is fine if you are done with the paper... :)

    It did takes us once to learn that detail!


    Barry_Martin_3@
    @Q.COM



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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to NANCY BACKUS on Tue Feb 4 23:03:00 2020
    Nancy,

    It's been almost 50 years since I was in college, now.... haven't worked NB>on a station since then... but do have fond memories of my days there...

    It has been over 40 since I've been in college.

    That was more accurate back in the heyday of bbsing, when my daily NB>GENEALOGY downloads could be over 500 messages, even while downloading NB>every day without fail... thankfully that's not so much the case NB>now..... ;)

    If I don't access the BBS for a few days, or get slammed by a delayed
    mail run that didn't connect for awhile, I have a huge packet. I think I
    saw 437 messages in this packet, but I skipped several of them.

    Daryl


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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Thu Feb 6 21:55:44 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 03-Feb-2020 19:48 <=-

    Besides, by now, she's probably learning that by not making too much
    of a mess, the finished product is better, since the proportions are
    more like they should be (even if she doesn't realize that's the
    reason)... :)
    Yes: "subtle learning". Though that type of learning has been going
    on probably since Cave Man Times: when Ogg throw stick on fire make
    pretty sparks but some pretty sparks burn Ogg - wrong type heat! Ogg
    learn to place stick in fire. And no, Autumn has not been burned while
    cooking.
    That's a good thing...
    Agree. We're somewhat prepared for such an emergency but of course
    don't want it to happen. She will sometimes start to get a little
    close or careless and given a reminder warning. Better safe than
    sorry! We try not to get overly protective; hopefully coming across
    more as a 'we care about you'.

    And in another year or so, she'll probably be able to tell you why she
    should be more careful, not too close, etc... :)

    Yes. LIS earlier, sort of a legal playing with her food, plus
    participating in creating the meal. OTOH it's hers and only hers.
    Yup... learning that cooking can be fun... ;) In fact, one of my
    childhood cookbooks was called just that... Fun With Cooking.. :)
    Some adult cookbooks should better incorporate that concept,
    especially for the everyday cooking. OTOH I'm not sure how I'd react
    to seeing a dish of spaghetti and meatballs presented with the
    meatballs arranged in a smiley face pattern!!
    I don't remember that being the sort of thing they were referring to
    as having fun with cooking.... :) But the recipes were reasonably
    simple and produced good food... :)
    We'll probably start introducing some simple meals shortly. LIS some times back I'm getting a little pancaked out; one of favourite meals so.... Not going to force her; same as she is given a choice for
    dinner and it's what we'll have. (She eats meats, vegetables, at home
    - just here she's on the Pancake Kick.)

    Just have to figure out a new specialty for fixing/eating with you... :)
    She might enjoy that spaghetti and meatballs smiley face, actually.. <G>

    I hung out at the campus radio station when I was in college... Wide
    range of music there, from top 40 to oldies, to jazz, to progressive,
    with even some folk, C&W, and classical, depending on which student
    DJ was doing the show.... ;) Heavy metal was just coming in before
    I graduated... ;)
    Sort of sounds (pun?) like my Pandora station: nothing I'd classify as
    'heavy metal' -- maybe "approaching but still a block away". ...When
    I first moved out here in 1975 there was a station which advertised it
    as a heavy metal station; per my 'Boston standards' (raised 50 miles
    north) wasn't close.
    The midwest equivalent, perhaps.... <G>
    They thought so! Neither the Boston nor local version was something I
    was something I'm into, just there are some crazy little outlaying
    quirks in my musical and art tastes! :)

    Understood.... I'm similar.... and will listen (at least in short spurts
    and sporadically) to a wide variety of things... :)

    The old way had the various television stations in the state identified
    by their call letters: locally KQIN. Now simply IowaPBS. So all dozen
    or so stations now are identified the same.
    Although "I-o-wa P-B-S" is easier and faster to say than "Iowa Public
    Television Network". :)
    Unless the corporate heads explain it out, guess you'll not really
    know... ;)
    No, and I'm not all that interested in finding out. More just the
    mental notation of the change and possibly relaxation of the some of
    the FCC's rules. Last year the local station was identified as KQIN,
    with the call sign; this year just "IowaPBS" so don't know if it's the
    Quad Cities' or Iowa City station (other than what channel one tunes
    to: 36.x and 12.x, respectively). ...Slipping into that technical mode
    again!
    What I see as the most iffy part of it is not being able to tell just
    from listening which particular station you are tuned to... but that
    goes by the boards anyway when they announce all the different
    stations you might be listening to... eg here, "WXXI 91.5 Rochester,
    WXXY 90.3 Houghton, streaming from wxxi.org, or from your phone app
    (etc)"
    So essentially WXXY is repeating what originates on WXXI; essentially
    the same as the Iowa PBS network is the source and the transmitters throughout the state are the repeaters.

    Pretty much so... There is a slight variance, as WXXY gets a simulcast
    of the news shows from WXXI-AM in the early morning and the evening, but otherwise is getting the FM feed... So I imagine their station would
    have a slightly different call signs announcement at those times... and
    the AM station here would be acknowleging their presence along with the
    other local stations receiving the same feed... but then I'm not
    listening to those stations... ;)

    I'm quite sure displaying
    "IowaPBS" is quite legal, just I like the call signs for identifcation from my old radio DXing days. ("DX" is [long] distance.)

    Yup, and understood...

    And good news: AFAICT no one lost their job with the merger (?)/new
    affiliation: Abby and Dan are the two humans doing most of the
    hosting, DanBot the robot (who thinks he's Dan's son) are still
    present. Not recalling if I've seen Steve, the guy who plays the
    guitar -- sort of.
    Just have to keep your eyes and ears open, I guess....
    He's still on the website.
    As an icon, or actually doing things...?
    So far I've just seen him in 'group' commercials advertising IowaPBS, nothing specifically of him.

    So maybe he's actually moved on.... just still lending his archived
    images to the commercials...

    ... Cat Haiku
    Oh no! Big One
    has been trapped by newspaper!
    Cat to the rescue!
    POUNCE!! <G> (rattle, crinkle, shred.... ;) )
    <chuckle> When I had my dog I did learn quickly not to leave
    paperwork on the floor: sometimes pawed at, sometimes sat/laid on.
    OTOH we did leave newspaper on the carpet: she liked to run and slide
    on the sheets.
    Which is fine if you are done with the paper... :)
    It did take us once to learn that detail!

    Just a little destructive... unintentionally, to be sure... ;)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Fri Feb 7 08:57:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    Besides, by now, she's probably learning that by not making too much
    of a mess, the finished product is better, since the proportions are
    more like they should be (even if she doesn't realize that's the
    reason)... :)
    Yes: "subtle learning". Though that type of learning has been going
    on probably since Cave Man Times: when Ogg throw stick on fire make
    pretty sparks but some pretty sparks burn Ogg - wrong type heat! Ogg
    learn to place stick in fire. And no, Autumn has not been burned while
    cooking.
    That's a good thing...
    Agree. We're somewhat prepared for such an emergency but of course
    don't want it to happen. She will sometimes start to get a little
    close or careless and given a reminder warning. Better safe than
    sorry! We try not to get overly protective; hopefully coming across
    more as a 'we care about you'.
    And in another year or so, she'll probably be able to tell you
    why she should be more careful, not too close, etc... :)

    Probably so! The 'nagging' we gave will come back!


    Yes. LIS earlier, sort of a legal playing with her food, plus
    participating in creating the meal. OTOH it's hers and only hers.
    Yup... learning that cooking can be fun... ;) In fact, one of my
    childhood cookbooks was called just that... Fun With Cooking.. :)
    Some adult cookbooks should better incorporate that concept,
    especially for the everyday cooking. OTOH I'm not sure how I'd react
    to seeing a dish of spaghetti and meatballs presented with the
    meatballs arranged in a smiley face pattern!!
    I don't remember that being the sort of thing they were referring to
    as having fun with cooking.... :) But the recipes were reasonably
    simple and produced good food... :)
    We'll probably start introducing some simple meals shortly. LIS some times back I'm getting a little pancaked out; one of favourite meals so.... Not going to force her; same as she is given a choice for
    dinner and it's what we'll have. (She eats meats, vegetables, at home
    - just here she's on the Pancake Kick.)
    Just have to figure out a new specialty for fixing/eating with
    you... :) She might enjoy that spaghetti and meatballs smiley
    face, actually.. <G>

    Possibly! In the meantime I did 'play with food' presentation-wise. Cut
    a couple mini powdered donuts in half, stood up on the side and lined
    up, couple of raisin for eyes, served on a small silver platter.
    Reminded me a bit of the Loch Ness Monster but she said it was a worm.
    She also said she doesn't like raisins anymore but ate them anyway.


    I hung out at the campus radio station when I was in college... Wide
    range of music there, from top 40 to oldies, to jazz, to progressive,
    with even some folk, C&W, and classical, depending on which student
    DJ was doing the show.... ;) Heavy metal was just coming in before
    I graduated... ;)
    Sort of sounds (pun?) like my Pandora station: nothing I'd classify as
    'heavy metal' -- maybe "approaching but still a block away". ...When
    I first moved out here in 1975 there was a station which advertised it
    as a heavy metal station; per my 'Boston standards' (raised 50 miles
    north) wasn't close.
    The midwest equivalent, perhaps.... <G>
    They thought so! Neither the Boston nor local version was something I
    was something I'm into, just there are some crazy little outlaying
    quirks in my musical and art tastes! :)
    Understood.... I'm similar.... and will listen (at least in short
    spurts and sporadically) to a wide variety of things... :)

    I figure as long as I like it that's all I really have the worry about!


    The old way had the various television stations in the state identified
    by their call letters: locally KQIN. Now simply IowaPBS. So all dozen
    or so stations now are identified the same.
    Although "I-o-wa P-B-S" is easier and faster to say than "Iowa Public
    Television Network". :)
    Unless the corporate heads explain it out, guess you'll not really
    know... ;)
    No, and I'm not all that interested in finding out. More just the
    mental notation of the change and possibly relaxation of the some of
    the FCC's rules. Last year the local station was identified as KQIN,
    with the call sign; this year just "IowaPBS" so don't know if it's the
    Quad Cities' or Iowa City station (other than what channel one tunes
    to: 36.x and 12.x, respectively). ...Slipping into that technical mode
    again!
    What I see as the most iffy part of it is not being able to tell just
    from listening which particular station you are tuned to... but that
    goes by the boards anyway when they announce all the different
    stations you might be listening to... eg here, "WXXI 91.5 Rochester,
    WXXY 90.3 Houghton, streaming from wxxi.org, or from your phone app
    (etc)"
    So essentially WXXY is repeating what originates on WXXI; essentially
    the same as the Iowa PBS network is the source and the transmitters throughout the state are the repeaters.
    Pretty much so... There is a slight variance, as WXXY gets a
    simulcast of the news shows from WXXI-AM in the early morning and
    the evening, but otherwise is getting the FM feed... So I imagine
    their station would have a slightly different call signs
    announcement at those times... and the AM station here would be acknowleging their presence along with the other local stations
    receiving the same feed... but then I'm not listening to those
    stations... ;)

    Right. The FCC regulations have relaxed somewhat over the years. My
    guess is under the old regulations even though all the Iowa Public
    Broadcasting were transmitting the same information from a common source
    the FCC considered each transmitting site unique and so had to be
    identified uniquely.


    And good news: AFAICT no one lost their job with the merger (?)/new
    affiliation: Abby and Dan are the two humans doing most of the
    hosting, DanBot the robot (who thinks he's Dan's son) are still
    present. Not recalling if I've seen Steve, the guy who plays the
    guitar -- sort of.
    Just have to keep your eyes and ears open, I guess....
    He's still on the website.
    As an icon, or actually doing things...?
    So far I've just seen him in 'group' commercials advertising IowaPBS, nothing specifically of him.
    So maybe he's actually moved on.... just still lending his
    archived images to the commercials...

    Possibly. Or maybe waiting until Spring comes: most of his segments
    (that I recall anyway) were outside and since it's a little cool out
    there lately....


    ... Cat Haiku
    Oh no! Big One
    has been trapped by newspaper!
    Cat to the rescue!
    POUNCE!! <G> (rattle, crinkle, shred.... ;) )
    <chuckle> When I had my dog I did learn quickly not to leave
    paperwork on the floor: sometimes pawed at, sometimes sat/laid on.
    OTOH we did leave newspaper on the carpet: she liked to run and slide
    on the sheets.
    Which is fine if you are done with the paper... :)
    It did take us once to learn that detail!
    Just a little destructive... unintentionally, to be sure... ;)

    Just slightly. :) Before the humans read the paper, not good; after
    humans read is OK to play.



    Barry_Martin_3@
    @Q.COM



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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Daryl Stout on Sun Feb 9 01:39:48 2020
    Quoting Daryl Stout to NANCY BACKUS on 04-Feb-2020 23:03 <=-

    It's been almost 50 years since I was in college, now.... haven't
    worked on a station since then... but do have fond memories of my
    days there...

    It has been over 40 since I've been in college.

    Then you are just a bit younger than I.... :)

    That was more accurate back in the heyday of bbsing, when my daily
    GENEALOGY downloads could be over 500 messages, even while downloading
    every day without fail... thankfully that's not so much the case
    now..... ;)

    If I don't access the BBS for a few days, or get slammed by a
    delayed mail run that didn't connect for awhile, I have a huge packet.
    I think I saw 437 messages in this packet, but I skipped several of
    them.

    When I have a large packet (or pile of packets), I somehow manage to
    plow through all the messages.... I won't answer them all, but will
    generally answer any to me that require a response... Eventually I get
    through them all... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to NANCY BACKUS on Sun Feb 9 00:26:00 2020
    Nancy...

    It has been over 40 since I've been in college.

    Then you are just a bit younger than I.... :)

    I'll be 60 shortly after spring arrives...but compared to some, "I'm
    still a puppy". <G>

    When I have a large packet (or pile of packets), I somehow manage to
    plow through all the messages.... I won't answer them all, but will NB>generally answer any to me that require a response... Eventually I get NB>through them all... :)

    With getting rid of networks, it's renumbering the QWK setup...so, I
    have to shut the BBS off while I update the configuration and
    batchfiles.

    Daryl


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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Fri Feb 14 01:28:08 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 07-Feb-2020 08:57 <=-

    And no, Autumn has not been burned while cooking.
    That's a good thing...
    Agree. We're somewhat prepared for such an emergency but of course
    don't want it to happen. She will sometimes start to get a little
    close or careless and given a reminder warning. Better safe than
    sorry! We try not to get overly protective; hopefully coming across
    more as a 'we care about you'.
    And in another year or so, she'll probably be able to tell you
    why she should be more careful, not too close, etc... :)
    Probably so! The 'nagging' we gave will come back!

    And I bet sometimes telling you not to be too close, etc.... :)

    I don't remember that being the sort of thing they were referring to
    as having fun with cooking.... :) But the recipes were reasonably
    simple and produced good food... :)
    We'll probably start introducing some simple meals shortly. LIS some
    times back I'm getting a little pancaked out; one of favourite meals
    so.... Not going to force her; same as she is given a choice for
    dinner and it's what we'll have. (She eats meats, vegetables, at home
    - just here she's on the Pancake Kick.)
    Just have to figure out a new specialty for fixing/eating with you...
    :) She might enjoy that spaghetti and meatballs smiley face,
    actually.. <G>
    Possibly! In the meantime I did 'play with food' presentation-wise.
    Cut a couple mini powdered donuts in half, stood up on the side and
    lined up, couple of raisin for eyes, served on a small silver platter. Reminded me a bit of the Loch Ness Monster but she said it was a worm.
    She also said she doesn't like raisins anymore but ate them anyway.

    Novel presentations sometimes do get food eaten anyway... ;)

    ...When I first moved out here in 1975 there was a station which
    advertised it as a heavy metal station; per my 'Boston standards'
    (raised 50 miles north) wasn't close.
    The midwest equivalent, perhaps.... <G>
    They thought so! Neither the Boston nor local version was something I
    was something I'm into, just there are some crazy little outlaying
    quirks in my musical and art tastes! :)
    Understood.... I'm similar.... and will listen (at least in short
    spurts and sporadically) to a wide variety of things... :)
    I figure as long as I like it that's all I really have to worry
    about!

    Exactly... :)

    What I see as the most iffy part of it is not being able to tell just
    from listening which particular station you are tuned to... but that
    goes by the boards anyway when they announce all the different
    stations you might be listening to... eg here, "WXXI 91.5 Rochester,
    WXXY 90.3 Houghton, streaming from wxxi.org, or from your phone app
    (etc)"
    So essentially WXXY is repeating what originates on WXXI; essentially
    the same as the Iowa PBS network is the source and the transmitters
    throughout the state are the repeaters.
    Pretty much so... There is a slight variance, as WXXY gets a simulcast
    of the news shows from WXXI-AM in the early morning and the evening,
    but otherwise is getting the FM feed... So I imagine their station
    would have a slightly different call signs announcement at those
    times... and the AM station here would be acknowledging their presence
    along with the other local stations receiving the same feed... but
    then I'm not listening to those stations... ;)
    Right. The FCC regulations have relaxed somewhat over the years. My guess is under the old regulations even though all the Iowa Public Broadcasting were transmitting the same information from a common
    source the FCC considered each transmitting site unique and so had to
    be identified uniquely.

    Could be...

    And good news: AFAICT no one lost their job with the merger (?)/new
    affiliation: Abby and Dan are the two humans doing most of the
    hosting, DanBot the robot (who thinks he's Dan's son) are still
    present. Not recalling if I've seen Steve, the guy who plays the
    guitar -- sort of.
    Just have to keep your eyes and ears open, I guess....
    He's still on the website.
    As an icon, or actually doing things...?
    So far I've just seen him in 'group' commercials advertising IowaPBS,
    nothing specifically of him.
    So maybe he's actually moved on.... just still lending his archived
    images to the commercials...
    Possibly. Or maybe waiting until Spring comes: most of his segments
    (that I recall anyway) were outside and since it's a little cool out
    there lately....

    Yup, that does sound like another possibility...

    <chuckle> When I had my dog I did learn quickly not to leave
    paperwork on the floor: sometimes pawed at, sometimes sat/laid on.
    OTOH we did leave newspaper on the carpet: she liked to run and slide
    on the sheets.
    Which is fine if you are done with the paper... :)
    It did take us once to learn that detail!
    Just a little destructive... unintentionally, to be sure... ;)
    Just slightly. :) Before the humans read the paper, not good; after humans read is OK to play.

    And since dog doesn't know if you were finished reading yet or not, it's
    up to humans to keep track of it until it has been read... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Fri Feb 14 08:44:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    And no, Autumn has not been burned while cooking.
    That's a good thing...
    Agree. We're somewhat prepared for such an emergency but of course
    don't want it to happen. She will sometimes start to get a little
    close or careless and given a reminder warning. Better safe than
    sorry! We try not to get overly protective; hopefully coming across
    more as a 'we care about you'.
    And in another year or so, she'll probably be able to tell you
    why she should be more careful, not too close, etc... :)
    Probably so! The 'nagging' we gave will come back!
    And I bet sometimes telling you not to be too close, etc.... :)

    So far not yet!


    I don't remember that being the sort of thing they were referring to
    as having fun with cooking.... :) But the recipes were reasonably
    simple and produced good food... :)
    We'll probably start introducing some simple meals shortly. LIS some
    times back I'm getting a little pancaked out; one of favourite meals
    so.... Not going to force her; same as she is given a choice for
    dinner and it's what we'll have. (She eats meats, vegetables, at home
    - just here she's on the Pancake Kick.)
    Just have to figure out a new specialty for fixing/eating with you...
    :) She might enjoy that spaghetti and meatballs smiley face,
    actually.. <G>
    Possibly! In the meantime I did 'play with food' presentation-wise.
    Cut a couple mini powdered donuts in half, stood up on the side and
    lined up, couple of raisin for eyes, served on a small silver platter. Reminded me a bit of the Loch Ness Monster but she said it was a worm.
    She also said she doesn't like raisins anymore but ate them anyway.
    Novel presentations sometimes do get food eaten anyway... ;)

    Plus the raisins had some of the donut's powdered sugar on them so
    became even more sweet tasting.



    And good news: AFAICT no one lost their job with the merger (?)/new
    affiliation: Abby and Dan are the two humans doing most of the
    hosting, DanBot the robot (who thinks he's Dan's son) are still
    present. Not recalling if I've seen Steve, the guy who plays the
    guitar -- sort of.
    Just have to keep your eyes and ears open, I guess....
    He's still on the website.
    As an icon, or actually doing things...?
    So far I've just seen him in 'group' commercials advertising IowaPBS,
    nothing specifically of him.
    So maybe he's actually moved on.... just still lending his archived
    images to the commercials...
    Possibly. Or maybe waiting until Spring comes: most of his segments
    (that I recall anyway) were outside and since it's a little cool out
    there lately....
    Yup, that does sound like another possibility...

    Will find out eventually. Maybe not a reason but more if he's still
    around or not.


    <chuckle> When I had my dog I did learn quickly not to leave
    paperwork on the floor: sometimes pawed at, sometimes sat/laid on.
    OTOH we did leave newspaper on the carpet: she liked to run and slide
    on the sheets.
    Which is fine if you are done with the paper... :)
    It did take us once to learn that detail!
    Just a little destructive... unintentionally, to be sure... ;)
    Just slightly. :) Before the humans read the paper, not good; after humans read is OK to play.
    And since dog doesn't know if you were finished reading yet or
    not, it's up to humans to keep track of it until it has been
    read... :)

    True: she never pulled a newspaper from the table or chair - partially
    because she couldn't reach. Chair possibly. Never jumped up on the
    furniture nor a person unless she was scared or excited. ...We were
    playing in the basement and she was running around and accidentally
    jumped on the couch: immediately she knew that was a no-no and we could
    tell in her body language and eyes. I did reassure her I knew it was an accident, slowly approached in a 'small' "gimme a hug" attitude ('fast'
    and 'big' she could have interpreted as threatening and about to be
    punished).



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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Daryl Stout on Sat Feb 15 20:38:24 2020
    Quoting Daryl Stout to NANCY BACKUS on 09-Feb-2020 00:26 <=-

    It has been over 40 since I've been in college.
    Then you are just a bit younger than I.... :)

    I'll be 60 shortly after spring arrives...but compared to some, "I'm
    still a puppy". <G>

    You're more than a decade younger than I, then... But there are some
    still around in my parents' generation... :)

    When I have a large packet (or pile of packets), I somehow manage to
    plow through all the messages.... I won't answer them all, but will
    generally answer any to me that require a response... Eventually I get
    through them all... :)

    With getting rid of networks, it's renumbering the QWK setup...so, I
    have to shut the BBS off while I update the configuration and
    batchfiles.

    Which would put you even farther behind... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to NANCY BACKUS on Mon Feb 17 17:52:00 2020
    Nancy,

    I'll be 60 shortly after spring arrives...but compared to some, "I'm still a puppy". <G>

    You're more than a decade younger than I, then... But there are some NB>still around in my parents' generation... :)

    I know several ham radio operators 25 or more years older than me.

    With getting rid of networks, it's renumbering the QWK setup...so, I have to shut the BBS off while I update the configuration and batchfiles.

    Which would put you even farther behind... :)

    It always does. I did reconnect with DixieNet, but am still trying to
    find out about GatorNet.

    ... Three of the four basic food groups: pies, ice cream and cake.

    Is the fourth one dessert?? <G>

    Daryl

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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Tue Feb 18 21:35:56 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 14-Feb-2020 08:44 <=-

    And no, Autumn has not been burned while cooking.
    That's a good thing...
    Agree. We're somewhat prepared for such an emergency but of course
    don't want it to happen. She will sometimes start to get a little
    close or careless and given a reminder warning. Better safe than
    sorry! We try not to get overly protective; hopefully coming across
    more as a 'we care about you'.
    And in another year or so, she'll probably be able to tell you
    why she should be more careful, not too close, etc... :)
    Probably so! The 'nagging' we gave will come back!
    And I bet sometimes telling you not to be too close, etc.... :)
    So far not yet!

    When we were little, and Daddy would take some of us kids shopping with
    him, he'd often admonish us "Now, don't touch anything" as we were
    entering the store... One day, as he was examining something to see if
    he wanted to buy it, a clear voice piped up from his shoulders (where my probably 2-3 year old sister was being carried), "Don't Touch ANYthing"...

    Just have to figure out a new specialty for fixing/eating with
    you... :) She might enjoy that spaghetti and meatballs smiley face,
    actually.. <G>
    Possibly! In the meantime I did 'play with food' presentation-wise.
    Cut a couple mini powdered donuts in half, stood up on the side and
    lined up, couple of raisin for eyes, served on a small silver platter.
    Reminded me a bit of the Loch Ness Monster but she said it was a worm.
    She also said she doesn't like raisins anymore but ate them anyway.
    Novel presentations sometimes do get food eaten anyway... ;)
    Plus the raisins had some of the donut's powdered sugar on them so
    became even more sweet tasting.

    That could help, too... :)

    Not recalling if I've seen Steve, the guy who plays the guitar --
    sort of.
    Just have to keep your eyes and ears open, I guess....
    He's still on the website.
    As an icon, or actually doing things...?
    So far I've just seen him in 'group' commercials advertising IowaPBS,
    nothing specifically of him.
    So maybe he's actually moved on.... just still lending his archived
    images to the commercials...
    Possibly. Or maybe waiting until Spring comes: most of his segments
    (that I recall anyway) were outside and since it's a little cool out
    there lately....
    Yup, that does sound like another possibility...
    Will find out eventually. Maybe not a reason but more if he's still around or not.

    True...

    <chuckle> When I had my dog I did learn quickly not to leave
    paperwork on the floor: sometimes pawed at, sometimes sat/laid on.
    OTOH we did leave newspaper on the carpet: she liked to run and slide
    on the sheets.
    Which is fine if you are done with the paper... :)
    It did take us once to learn that detail!
    Just a little destructive... unintentionally, to be sure... ;)
    Just slightly. :) Before the humans read the paper, not good; after
    humans read is OK to play.
    And since dog doesn't know if you were finished reading yet or not,
    it's up to humans to keep track of it until it has been read... :)
    True: she never pulled a newspaper from the table or chair - partially because she couldn't reach. Chair possibly. Never jumped up on the furniture nor a person unless she was scared or excited. ...We were playing in the basement and she was running around and accidentally
    jumped on the couch: immediately she knew that was a no-no and we
    could tell in her body language and eyes. I did reassure her I knew it was an accident, slowly approached in a 'small' "gimme a hug" attitude ('fast' and 'big' she could have interpreted as threatening and about
    to be punished).

    Maybe in her past life she actually had been badly punished for just
    such an incident.... But you were able to reassure her that that life
    really was gone... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Wed Feb 19 09:37:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    And no, Autumn has not been burned while cooking.
    That's a good thing...
    Agree. We're somewhat prepared for such an emergency but of course
    don't want it to happen. She will sometimes start to get a little
    close or careless and given a reminder warning. Better safe than
    sorry! We try not to get overly protective; hopefully coming across
    more as a 'we care about you'.
    And in another year or so, she'll probably be able to tell you
    why she should be more careful, not too close, etc... :)
    Probably so! The 'nagging' we gave will come back!
    And I bet sometimes telling you not to be too close, etc.... :)
    So far not yet!
    When we were little, and Daddy would take some of us kids
    shopping with him, he'd often admonish us "Now, don't touch
    anything" as we were entering the store... One day, as he was
    examining something to see if he wanted to buy it, a clear voice
    piped up from his shoulders (where my probably 2-3 year old
    sister was being carried), "Don't Touch ANYthing"...

    <snicker> As one of the managers aid at the store "paybacks are hell!".


    Just have to figure out a new specialty for fixing/eating with
    you... :) She might enjoy that spaghetti and meatballs smiley face,
    actually.. <G>
    Possibly! In the meantime I did 'play with food' presentation-wise.
    Cut a couple mini powdered donuts in half, stood up on the side and
    lined up, couple of raisin for eyes, served on a small silver platter.
    Reminded me a bit of the Loch Ness Monster but she said it was a worm.
    She also said she doesn't like raisins anymore but ate them anyway.
    Novel presentations sometimes do get food eaten anyway... ;)
    Plus the raisins had some of the donut's powdered sugar on them so
    became even more sweet tasting.
    That could help, too... :)

    She seems to be in the phase where a lot of foods she used to gobble
    down are not liked now. Possibly more of a burn out than dislike but we
    don't force: she's eating a decent variety, just of different stuff.
    She said she didn't like raisins (the eyes) but ate them anyway; no
    cajoling.


    <chuckle> When I had my dog I did learn quickly not to leave
    paperwork on the floor: sometimes pawed at, sometimes sat/laid on.
    OTOH we did leave newspaper on the carpet: she liked to run and slide
    on the sheets.
    Which is fine if you are done with the paper... :)
    It did take us once to learn that detail!
    Just a little destructive... unintentionally, to be sure... ;)
    Just slightly. :) Before the humans read the paper, not good; after
    humans read is OK to play.
    And since dog doesn't know if you were finished reading yet or not,
    it's up to humans to keep track of it until it has been read... :)
    True: she never pulled a newspaper from the table or chair - partially because she couldn't reach. Chair possibly. Never jumped up on the furniture nor a person unless she was scared or excited. ...We were playing in the basement and she was running around and accidentally
    jumped on the couch: immediately she knew that was a no-no and we
    could tell in her body language and eyes. I did reassure her I knew it was an accident, slowly approached in a 'small' "gimme a hug" attitude ('fast' and 'big' she could have interpreted as threatening and about
    to be punished).
    Maybe in her past life she actually had been badly punished for
    just such an incident.... But you were able to reassure her that
    that life really was gone... :)

    That's a possibility too. We were suprised she was able to jump on to
    the couch -- always needed help to get into the car for car rides, even
    the back steps into the house (two + landing then into the house) she'd
    need help. LIS, OK, we're all surprised, the jumping up was an
    accident, nothing bad happened, she knew she wasn't supposed to be up
    there and we knew she knew and it occurred only becuse we were all
    playing. ...And then I had to help her down because she couldn't work
    up the courage!


    ... Hey...HEY... Stop pawing at those disks you stupid cat!

    Out 'em onthe side of the file cabinet with a magnet so they'll be hand
    but out of the way of the cat!



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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Daryl Stout on Sat Feb 22 21:50:50 2020
    Quoting Daryl Stout to NANCY BACKUS on 17-Feb-2020 17:52 <=-

    I'll be 60 shortly after spring arrives...but compared to some, "I'm
    still a puppy". <G>
    You're more than a decade younger than I, then... But there are some
    still around in my parents' generation... :)

    I know several ham radio operators 25 or more years older than me.

    And there are plenty of bbs'ers in that age range as well... :)

    With getting rid of networks, it's renumbering the QWK setup...so, I
    have to shut the BBS off while I update the configuration and
    batchfiles.
    Which would put you even farther behind... :)

    It always does. I did reconnect with DixieNet, but am still trying
    to find out about GatorNet.

    Which one were you going to be taking over as Coordinator....? Or was
    that yet another one...?

    ... Three of the four basic food groups: pies, ice cream and cake.

    Is the fourth one dessert?? <G>

    Maybe... or maybe just cookies.... ;)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Wed Feb 26 00:34:58 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 19-Feb-2020 09:37 <=-

    We try not to get overly protective; hopefully coming across more
    as a 'we care about you'.
    And in another year or so, she'll probably be able to tell you
    why she should be more careful, not too close, etc... :)
    Probably so! The 'nagging' we gave will come back!
    And I bet sometimes telling you not to be too close, etc.... :)
    So far not yet!
    When we were little, and Daddy would take some of us kids shopping with
    him, he'd often admonish us "Now, don't touch anything" as we were
    entering the store. One day, as he was examining something to see if he
    wanted to buy it, a clear voice piped up from his shoulders (where my
    probably 2-3 year old sister was being carried),"Don't Touch ANYthing".
    <snicker> As one of the managers said at the store "paybacks are
    hell!".

    It certainly had the rest of us laughing... and became part of the
    legendary family stories... Even those that weren't born yet "remember"
    it... <G>

    Just have to figure out a new specialty for fixing/eating with
    you... :) She might enjoy that spaghetti and meatballs smiley face,
    actually.. <G>
    Possibly! In the meantime I did 'play with food' presentation-wise.
    Cut a couple mini powdered donuts in half, stood up on the side and
    lined up, couple of raisin for eyes, served on a small silver platter.
    Reminded me a bit of the Loch Ness Monster but she said it was a worm.
    She also said she doesn't like raisins anymore but ate them anyway.
    Novel presentations sometimes do get food eaten anyway... ;)
    Plus the raisins had some of the donut's powdered sugar on them so
    became even more sweet tasting.
    That could help, too... :)
    She seems to be in the phase where a lot of foods she used to gobble
    down are not liked now. Possibly more of a burn out than dislike but
    we don't force: she's eating a decent variety, just of different stuff. She said she didn't like raisins (the eyes) but ate them anyway; no cajoling.

    If you don't push, she'll probably eventually go back to her old
    favorites, just in more moderation... I'd guess she's getting into a
    phase of honing her discretion and ability to choose... :)

    <chuckle> When I had my dog I did learn quickly not to leave
    paperwork on the floor: sometimes pawed at, sometimes sat/laid on.
    OTOH we did leave newspaper on the carpet: she liked to run and slide
    on the sheets.
    Which is fine if you are done with the paper... :)
    It did take us once to learn that detail!
    Just a little destructive... unintentionally, to be sure... ;)
    Just slightly. :) Before the humans read the paper, not good; after
    humans read is OK to play.
    And since dog doesn't know if you were finished reading yet or not,
    it's up to humans to keep track of it until it has been read... :)
    True: she never pulled a newspaper from the table or chair - partially
    because she couldn't reach. Chair possibly. Never jumped up on the
    furniture nor a person unless she was scared or excited. ...We were
    playing in the basement and she was running around and accidentally
    jumped on the couch: immediately she knew that was a no-no and we
    could tell in her body language and eyes. I did reassure her I knew it
    was an accident, slowly approached in a 'small' "gimme a hug" attitude
    ('fast' and 'big' she could have interpreted as threatening and about
    to be punished).
    Maybe in her past life she actually had been badly punished for just
    such an incident.... But you were able to reassure her that that life
    really was gone... :)
    That's a possibility too. We were suprised she was able to jump on to
    the couch -- always needed help to get into the car for car rides,
    even the back steps into the house (two + landing then into the house) she'd need help. LIS, OK, we're all surprised, the jumping up was an accident, nothing bad happened, she knew she wasn't supposed to be up there and we knew she knew and it occurred only becuse we were all playing. ...And then I had to help her down because she couldn't work
    up the courage!

    She probably had surprised herself as well... <G> Just enough extra
    adrenaline to propel her higher and farther than she thought... ;)

    ... Hey...HEY... Stop pawing at those disks you stupid cat!
    Put 'em on the side of the file cabinet with a magnet so they'll be
    hand but out of the way of the cat!

    Ummmmm.... right... (NOT)... ;)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Wed Feb 26 07:25:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    We try not to get overly protective; hopefully coming across more
    as a 'we care about you'.
    And in another year or so, she'll probably be able to tell you
    why she should be more careful, not too close, etc... :)
    Probably so! The 'nagging' we gave will come back!
    And I bet sometimes telling you not to be too close, etc.... :)
    So far not yet!
    When we were little, and Daddy would take some of us kids shopping with
    him, he'd often admonish us "Now, don't touch anything" as we were
    entering the store. One day, as he was examining something to see if he
    wanted to buy it, a clear voice piped up from his shoulders (where my
    probably 2-3 year old sister was being carried),"Don't Touch ANYthing".
    <snicker> As one of the managers said at the store "paybacks are
    hell!".
    It certainly had the rest of us laughing... and became part of
    the legendary family stories... Even those that weren't born yet "remember" it... <G>

    Yes: heard the story so many times it's like they lived the event also.
    :)


    Just have to figure out a new specialty for fixing/eating with
    you... :) She might enjoy that spaghetti and meatballs smiley face,
    actually.. <G>
    Possibly! In the meantime I did 'play with food' presentation-wise.
    Cut a couple mini powdered donuts in half, stood up on the side and
    lined up, couple of raisin for eyes, served on a small silver platter.
    Reminded me a bit of the Loch Ness Monster but she said it was a worm.
    She also said she doesn't like raisins anymore but ate them anyway.
    Novel presentations sometimes do get food eaten anyway... ;)
    Plus the raisins had some of the donut's powdered sugar on them so
    became even more sweet tasting.
    That could help, too... :)
    She seems to be in the phase where a lot of foods she used to gobble
    down are not liked now. Possibly more of a burn out than dislike but
    we don't force: she's eating a decent variety, just of different stuff. She said she didn't like raisins (the eyes) but ate them anyway; no cajoling.
    If you don't push, she'll probably eventually go back to her old favorites, just in more moderation... I'd guess she's getting
    into a phase of honing her discretion and ability to choose...
    :)

    Right. Could be more "I'm tired of" as opposed to "I don't like" but
    hasn't learned the distinction. Either way it's probably going to be
    left on the plate. As long as what she does eat is overall nutritious everyone is fine with it.


    That's a possibility too. We were suprised she was able to jump on to
    the couch -- always needed help to get into the car for car rides,
    even the back steps into the house (two + landing then into the house) she'd need help. LIS, OK, we're all surprised, the jumping up was an accident, nothing bad happened, she knew she wasn't supposed to be up there and we knew she knew and it occurred only becuse we were all playing. ...And then I had to help her down because she couldn't work
    up the courage!
    She probably had surprised herself as well... <G> Just enough
    extra adrenaline to propel her higher and farther than she
    thought... ;)

    We thought similarly. She did have that look and tail-wag of "look what
    I did!" combined with "oh poop! I shouldn't be up here - but look what I
    did! ...Now how to I get down? Please don't spank me: I know I did
    wrong!" LIS, I/we did let her know we knew it was an accident, were as surprised as she was, and she's not going to be in trouble.




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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Tue Mar 3 21:36:36 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 26-Feb-2020 07:25 <=-

    Probably so! The 'nagging' we gave will come back!
    And I bet sometimes telling you not to be too close, etc.... :)
    So far not yet!
    When we were little, and Daddy would take some of us kids shopping with
    him, he'd often admonish us "Now, don't touch anything" as we were
    entering the store. One day, as he was examining something to see if he
    wanted to buy it, a clear voice piped up from his shoulders (where my
    probably 2-3 year old sister was being carried),"Don't Touch ANYthing".
    <snicker> As one of the managers said at the store "paybacks are
    hell!".
    It certainly had the rest of us laughing... and became part of the
    legendary family stories... Even those that weren't born yet
    "remember" it... <G>
    Yes: heard the story so many times it's like they lived the event
    also. :)

    Pretty much... :)

    Reminded me a bit of the Loch Ness Monster but she said it was a worm.
    She also said she doesn't like raisins anymore but ate them anyway.
    Novel presentations sometimes do get food eaten anyway... ;)
    Plus the raisins had some of the donut's powdered sugar on them so
    became even more sweet tasting.
    That could help, too... :)
    She seems to be in the phase where a lot of foods she used to gobble
    down are not liked now. Possibly more of a burn out than dislike but
    we don't force: she's eating a decent variety, just of different stuff.
    She said she didn't like raisins (the eyes) but ate them anyway; no
    cajoling.
    If you don't push, she'll probably eventually go back to her old
    favorites, just in more moderation... I'd guess she's getting into a
    phase of honing her discretion and ability to choose... :)
    Right. Could be more "I'm tired of" as opposed to "I don't like" but hasn't learned the distinction. Either way it's probably going to be
    left on the plate. As long as what she does eat is overall nutritious everyone is fine with it.

    That's the important thing, after all... :)

    That's a possibility too. We were suprised she was able to jump on to
    the couch -- always needed help to get into the car for car rides,
    even the back steps into the house (two + landing then into the house)
    she'd need help. LIS, OK, we're all surprised, the jumping up was an
    accident, nothing bad happened, she knew she wasn't supposed to be up
    there and we knew she knew and it occurred only becuse we were all
    playing. ...And then I had to help her down because she couldn't work
    up the courage!
    She probably had surprised herself as well... <G> Just enough extra
    adrenaline to propel her higher and farther than she thought... ;)
    We thought similarly. She did have that look and tail-wag of "look
    what I did!" combined with "oh poop! I shouldn't be up here - but look what I did! ...Now how to I get down? Please don't spank me: I know I
    did wrong!" LIS, I/we did let her know we knew it was an accident,
    were as surprised as she was, and she's not going to be in trouble.

    As long as she didn't get into the habit of it, no harm done.... ;)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Wed Mar 4 11:07:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    Reminded me a bit of the Loch Ness Monster but she said it was a worm.
    She also said she doesn't like raisins anymore but ate them anyway.
    Novel presentations sometimes do get food eaten anyway... ;)
    Plus the raisins had some of the donut's powdered sugar on them so
    became even more sweet tasting.
    That could help, too... :)
    She seems to be in the phase where a lot of foods she used to gobble
    down are not liked now. Possibly more of a burn out than dislike but
    we don't force: she's eating a decent variety, just of different stuff.
    She said she didn't like raisins (the eyes) but ate them anyway; no
    cajoling.
    If you don't push, she'll probably eventually go back to her old
    favorites, just in more moderation... I'd guess she's getting into a
    phase of honing her discretion and ability to choose... :)
    Right. Could be more "I'm tired of" as opposed to "I don't like" but hasn't learned the distinction. Either way it's probably going to be
    left on the plate. As long as what she does eat is overall nutritious everyone is fine with it.
    That's the important thing, after all... :)

    Right. Similar to I couldn't drink liquid milk for a while; just got
    the calcium, etc., from cheese, sour cream, cottage cheese, yogurt, etc.
    There were probably some nutrients where the liquid milk was a better
    source but as that means of delivery wasn't tolerated use a different
    one.


    That's a possibility too. We were suprised she was able to jump on to
    the couch -- always needed help to get into the car for car rides,
    even the back steps into the house (two + landing then into the house)
    she'd need help. LIS, OK, we're all surprised, the jumping up was an
    accident, nothing bad happened, she knew she wasn't supposed to be up
    there and we knew she knew and it occurred only becuse we were all
    playing. ...And then I had to help her down because she couldn't work
    up the courage!
    She probably had surprised herself as well... <G> Just enough extra
    adrenaline to propel her higher and farther than she thought... ;)
    We thought similarly. She did have that look and tail-wag of "look
    what I did!" combined with "oh poop! I shouldn't be up here - but look what I did! ...Now how to I get down? Please don't spank me: I know I
    did wrong!" LIS, I/we did let her know we knew it was an accident,
    were as surprised as she was, and she's not going to be in trouble.

    As long as she didn't get into the habit of it, no harm done....
    ;)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Mon Mar 9 23:25:30 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 04-Mar-2020 11:07 <=-

    she's eating a decent variety, just of different stuff. She said she
    didn't like raisins (the eyes) but ate them anyway; no cajoling.
    If you don't push, she'll probably eventually go back to her old
    favorites, just in more moderation... I'd guess she's getting into a
    phase of honing her discretion and ability to choose... :)
    Right. Could be more "I'm tired of" as opposed to "I don't like" but
    hasn't learned the distinction. Either way it's probably going to be
    left on the plate. As long as what she does eat is overall nutritious
    everyone is fine with it.
    That's the important thing, after all... :)
    Right. Similar to I couldn't drink liquid milk for a while; just got
    the calcium, etc., from cheese, sour cream, cottage cheese, yogurt,
    etc. There were probably some nutrients where the liquid milk was a
    better source but as that means of delivery wasn't tolerated use a different one.

    Generally options available.... ;)

    Below, dunno if you meant to just clip out the rest of the message, or
    planned to add a comment and got distracted.... so I left it in....
    (you'd left in the end lines, too, including tear and origin...)

    That's a possibility too. We were suprised she was able to jump on to
    the couch -- always needed help to get into the car for car rides,
    even the back steps into the house (two + landing then into the house)
    she'd need help. LIS, OK, we're all surprised, the jumping up was an
    accident, nothing bad happened, she knew she wasn't supposed to be up
    there and we knew she knew and it occurred only becuse we were all
    playing. ...And then I had to help her down because she couldn't work
    up the courage!
    She probably had surprised herself as well... <G> Just enough extra
    adrenaline to propel her higher and farther than she thought... ;)
    We thought similarly. She did have that look and tail-wag of "look
    what I did!" combined with "oh poop! I shouldn't be up here - but look what I did! ...Now how to I get down? Please don't spank me: I know I
    did wrong!" LIS, I/we did let her know we knew it was an accident,
    were as surprised as she was, and she's not going to be in trouble.

    As long as she didn't get into the habit of it, no harm done....
    ;)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Tue Mar 10 08:06:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    she's eating a decent variety, just of different stuff. She said she
    didn't like raisins (the eyes) but ate them anyway; no cajoling.
    If you don't push, she'll probably eventually go back to her old
    favorites, just in more moderation... I'd guess she's getting into a
    phase of honing her discretion and ability to choose... :)
    Right. Could be more "I'm tired of" as opposed to "I don't like" but
    hasn't learned the distinction. Either way it's probably going to be
    left on the plate. As long as what she does eat is overall nutritious
    everyone is fine with it.
    That's the important thing, after all... :)
    Right. Similar to I couldn't drink liquid milk for a while; just got
    the calcium, etc., from cheese, sour cream, cottage cheese, yogurt,
    etc. There were probably some nutrients where the liquid milk was a
    better source but as that means of delivery wasn't tolerated use a different one.
    Generally options available.... ;)

    Right. The only thing I missed about not being able to ingest liquid
    milk is couldn't eat cereal. Didn't have cereal all the time buy was a breakfast option. Water isn't a taste substitute! I don't think the
    milk alternatives were available in the 70's (soy, almond. etc.).
    Powdered milk -- ??; I don't recall one way or another.


    Below, dunno if you meant to just clip out the rest of the
    message, or planned to add a comment and got distracted.... so I
    left it in.... (you'd left in the end lines, too, including tear
    and origin...)

    Me, get dist-- ooh! look at that! <g>


    That's a possibility too. We were suprised she was able to jump on to
    the couch -- always needed help to get into the car for car rides,
    even the back steps into the house (two + landing then into the house)
    she'd need help. LIS, OK, we're all surprised, the jumping up was an
    accident, nothing bad happened, she knew she wasn't supposed to be up
    there and we knew she knew and it occurred only becuse we were all
    playing. ...And then I had to help her down because she couldn't work
    up the courage!
    She probably had surprised herself as well... <G> Just enough extra
    adrenaline to propel her higher and farther than she thought... ;)
    We thought similarly. She did have that look and tail-wag of "look
    what I did!" combined with "oh poop! I shouldn't be up here - but look what I did! ...Now how to I get down? Please don't spank me: I know I
    did wrong!" LIS, I/we did let her know we knew it was an accident,
    were as surprised as she was, and she's not going to be in trouble.
    As long as she didn't get into the habit of it, no harm done....
    ;)

    No, she never got into the habit of jumping on furniture, nor people.
    Well, the only time she tried to climb was during thunderstorms or
    fireworks when she was scared and wanted to be held and comforted --
    that's different.



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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Mon Mar 16 00:50:12 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 10-Mar-2020 08:06 <=-

    As long as what she does eat is overall nutritious everyone is fine
    with it.
    That's the important thing, after all... :)
    Right. Similar to I couldn't drink liquid milk for a while; just got
    the calcium, etc., from cheese, sour cream, cottage cheese, yogurt,
    etc. There were probably some nutrients where the liquid milk was a
    better source but as that means of delivery wasn't tolerated use a
    different one.
    Generally options available.... ;)
    Right. The only thing I missed about not being able to ingest liquid
    milk is couldn't eat cereal. Didn't have cereal all the time but was
    a breakfast option. Water isn't a taste substitute! I don't think the milk alternatives were available in the 70's (soy, almond. etc.).
    Powdered milk -- ??; I don't recall one way or another.

    Powdered milk certainly was an option.... my parents started using it to stretch out the milk back in the late 50's... we called it "funny milk"
    because it was funny that powder turned into milk... and it tasted
    funny.... ;) Soy milk was available in the 60's, as I know it was a
    possible substitute for infant formulas (my cousin was given it, since
    she was allergic to cow's milk).... But I don't think the nut milks were available yet, nor the grain milks... A friend of mine refers to those
    milk substitutes as mylks.... :)

    Below, dunno if you meant to just clip out the rest of the message,
    or planned to add a comment and got distracted... so I left it in...
    (you'd left in the end lines, too, including tear and origin...)
    Me, get dist-- ooh! look at that! <g>

    Exactly.... <G>

    That's a possibility too. We were suprised she was able to jump on to
    the couch -- always needed help to get into the car for car rides,
    even the back steps into the house (two + landing then into the house)
    she'd need help. LIS, OK, we're all surprised, the jumping up was an
    accident, nothing bad happened, she knew she wasn't supposed to be up
    there and we knew she knew and it occurred only becuse we were all
    playing. ...And then I had to help her down because she couldn't work
    up the courage!
    She probably had surprised herself as well... <G> Just enough extra
    adrenaline to propel her higher and farther than she thought... ;)
    We thought similarly. She did have that look and tail-wag of "look
    what I did!" combined with "oh poop! I shouldn't be up here - but look
    what I did! ...Now how to I get down? Please don't spank me: I know I
    did wrong!" LIS, I/we did let her know we knew it was an accident,
    were as surprised as she was, and she's not going to be in trouble.
    As long as she didn't get into the habit of it, no harm done.... ;)
    No, she never got into the habit of jumping on furniture, nor people. Well, the only time she tried to climb was during thunderstorms or fireworks when she was scared and wanted to be held and comforted -- that's different.

    And also very understandable.... :)

    ... Too Stressed: Your heart beats in 7/8 time.

    That sounds like a form of Afib.... <G>

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Mon Mar 16 08:36:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    Refilled my coffee and noted there was a snow shower! Didn't stick
    (it's just above freezing out there).


    As long as what she does eat is overall nutritious everyone is fine
    with it.
    That's the important thing, after all... :)
    Right. Similar to I couldn't drink liquid milk for a while; just got
    the calcium, etc., from cheese, sour cream, cottage cheese, yogurt,
    etc. There were probably some nutrients where the liquid milk was a
    better source but as that means of delivery wasn't tolerated use a
    different one.
    Generally options available.... ;)
    Right. The only thing I missed about not being able to ingest liquid
    milk is couldn't eat cereal. Didn't have cereal all the time but was
    a breakfast option. Water isn't a taste substitute! I don't think the milk alternatives were available in the 70's (soy, almond. etc.).
    Powdered milk -- ??; I don't recall one way or another.
    Powdered milk certainly was an option.... my parents started
    using it to stretch out the milk back in the late 50's... we
    called it "funny milk" because it was funny that powder turned
    into milk... and it tasted funny.... ;)

    Maybe I had had powdered milk and didn't like the taste so ignored it as
    an alternative. Long time ago!

    Soy milk was available
    in the 60's, as I know it was a possible substitute for infant
    formulas (my cousin was given it, since she was allergic to cow's milk).... But I don't think the nut milks were available yet, nor
    the grain milks... A friend of mine refers to those milk
    substitutes as mylks.... :)

    Just a slight change in spelling to acknowledge the difference. So the alternatives were around; would seem like I would have been aware. I
    did use soy milk and later other milk alternatives but that wasn't until probably the 90's. And cut with water to stretch - the price!!



    That's a possibility too. We were suprised she was able to jump on to
    the couch -- always needed help to get into the car for car rides,
    even the back steps into the house (two + landing then into the house)
    she'd need help. LIS, OK, we're all surprised, the jumping up was an
    accident, nothing bad happened, she knew she wasn't supposed to be up
    there and we knew she knew and it occurred only becuse we were all
    playing. ...And then I had to help her down because she couldn't work
    up the courage!
    She probably had surprised herself as well... <G> Just enough extra
    adrenaline to propel her higher and farther than she thought... ;)
    We thought similarly. She did have that look and tail-wag of "look
    what I did!" combined with "oh poop! I shouldn't be up here - but look
    what I did! ...Now how to I get down? Please don't spank me: I know I
    did wrong!" LIS, I/we did let her know we knew it was an accident,
    were as surprised as she was, and she's not going to be in trouble.
    As long as she didn't get into the habit of it, no harm done.... ;)
    No, she never got into the habit of jumping on furniture, nor people. Well, the only time she tried to climb was during thunderstorms or fireworks when she was scared and wanted to be held and comforted -- that's different.
    And also very understandable.... :)

    Definately! Nothing seemed to help calm her other than snuggling and
    that was more to comfort her, she was still scared and shivering from
    fear. Never went as far as to tranquilize her.


    ... Too Stressed: Your heart beats in 7/8 time.
    That sounds like a form of Afib.... <G>

    Wonder if Stauss, Souza, etc., ever had as a working title The Afib
    March?!



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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Mon Mar 30 18:40:46 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 16-Mar-2020 08:36 <=-

    Refilled my coffee and noted there was a snow shower! Didn't stick
    (it's just above freezing out there).

    Pretty typical for this time of year.... :)

    I couldn't drink liquid milk for a while; just got the calcium, etc.,
    from cheese, sour cream, cottage cheese, yogurt, etc. There were
    probably some nutrients where the liquid milk was a better source but
    as that means of delivery wasn't tolerated use a different one.
    Generally options available.... ;)
    Right. The only thing I missed about not being able to ingest liquid
    milk is couldn't eat cereal. Didn't have cereal all the time but was
    a breakfast option. Water isn't a taste substitute! I don't think the
    milk alternatives were available in the 70's (soy, almond. etc.).
    Powdered milk -- ??; I don't recall one way or another.
    Powdered milk certainly was an option.... my parents started using it
    to stretch out the milk back in the late 50's... we called it "funny
    milk" because it was funny that powder turned into milk... and it
    tasted funny.... ;)
    Maybe I had had powdered milk and didn't like the taste so ignored it
    as an alternative. Long time ago!

    That could well have been the case.... :) I remember that later they
    came out with powdered whole milk which was more tolerable... I used it
    in cooking after I was married and out on my own...

    Soy milk was available in the 60's, as I know it was a possible
    substitute for infant formulas (my cousin was given it, since she
    was allergic to cow's milk).... But I don't think the nut milks
    were available yet, nor the grain milks... A friend of mine refers
    to those milk substitutes as mylks.... :)
    Just a slight change in spelling to acknowledge the difference. So
    the alternatives were around; would seem like I would have been aware.
    I did use soy milk and later other milk alternatives but that wasn't
    until probably the 90's. And cut with water to stretch - the price!!

    True.... one didn't buy the alternatives to economize, the way powdered
    skim milk could do.... ;) Even though I have no problems with real milk
    (quite the contrary!), I do enjoy getting the dark chocolate almond milk
    on occasion... :)

    She probably had surprised herself as well... <G> Just enough extra
    adrenaline to propel her higher and farther than she thought... ;)
    We thought similarly. She did have that look and tail-wag of "look
    what I did!" combined with "oh poop! I shouldn't be up here - but look
    what I did! ...Now how to I get down? Please don't spank me: I know I
    did wrong!" LIS, I/we did let her know we knew it was an accident,
    were as surprised as she was, and she's not going to be in trouble.
    As long as she didn't get into the habit of it, no harm done.... ;)
    No, she never got into the habit of jumping on furniture, nor people.
    Well, the only time she tried to climb was during thunderstorms or
    fireworks when she was scared and wanted to be held and comforted --
    that's different.
    And also very understandable.... :)
    Definately! Nothing seemed to help calm her other than snuggling and
    that was more to comfort her, she was still scared and shivering from fear. Never went as far as to tranquilize her.

    Probably just as well... sometimes they have bad reactions to
    tranquilizers, too...

    ... Too Stressed: Your heart beats in 7/8 time.
    That sounds like a form of Afib.... <G>
    Wonder if Stauss, Souza, etc., ever had as a working title The Afib March?!

    (You mean (Johann) Strauss and (John Philip) Sousa...?) Probably not,
    as I don't think that atrial fibrillation was known as such in their
    day(s), and almost certainly not shortened to Afib yet.... <G>

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Tue Mar 31 10:29:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    Refilled my coffee and noted there was a snow shower! Didn't stick
    (it's just above freezing out there).
    Pretty typical for this time of year.... :)

    True, just seemed odd as no indication otherwise. Yesterday was bright
    and sunny; to day starting off ovecast.


    I couldn't drink liquid milk for a while; just got the calcium, etc., <snip>
    Right. The only thing I missed about not being able to ingest liquid
    milk is couldn't eat cereal. Didn't have cereal all the time but was
    a breakfast option. Water isn't a taste substitute! I don't think the
    milk alternatives were available in the 70's (soy, almond. etc.).
    Powdered milk -- ??; I don't recall one way or another.
    Powdered milk certainly was an option.... my parents started using it
    to stretch out the milk back in the late 50's... we called it "funny
    milk" because it was funny that powder turned into milk... and it
    tasted funny.... ;)
    Maybe I had had powdered milk and didn't like the taste so ignored it
    as an alternative. Long time ago!
    That could well have been the case.... :) I remember that later
    they came out with powdered whole milk which was more
    tolerable... I used it in cooking after I was married and out on
    my own...

    S-t-r-e-t-c-h that budget! And this just popped in: I remember
    something like "Tiger's Milk" which was supposed to be more of a protein
    or some sort of supplement. As I recall an 'odd' taste. I was probably
    pre- to early teen then.


    Soy milk was available in the 60's, as I know it was a possible
    substitute for infant formulas (my cousin was given it, since she
    was allergic to cow's milk).... But I don't think the nut milks
    were available yet, nor the grain milks... A friend of mine refers
    to those milk substitutes as mylks.... :)
    Just a slight change in spelling to acknowledge the difference. So
    the alternatives were around; would seem like I would have been aware.
    I did use soy milk and later other milk alternatives but that wasn't
    until probably the 90's. And cut with water to stretch - the price!!
    True.... one didn't buy the alternatives to economize, the way
    powdered skim milk could do.... ;) Even though I have no
    problems with real milk (quite the contrary!), I do enjoy getting
    the dark chocolate almond milk on occasion... :)

    One certainly didn't use the milk alternatives for economical reasons!!
    Some of the quart prices could fund small nations!! LIS, I had the
    first pour or two 'straight up', then started adding water to extend.


    She probably had surprised herself as well... <G> Just enough extra
    adrenaline to propel her higher and farther than she thought... ;)
    We thought similarly. She did have that look and tail-wag of "look
    what I did!" combined with "oh poop! I shouldn't be up here - but look
    what I did! ...Now how to I get down? Please don't spank me: I know I
    did wrong!" LIS, I/we did let her know we knew it was an accident,
    were as surprised as she was, and she's not going to be in trouble.
    As long as she didn't get into the habit of it, no harm done.... ;)
    No, she never got into the habit of jumping on furniture, nor people.
    Well, the only time she tried to climb was during thunderstorms or
    fireworks when she was scared and wanted to be held and comforted --
    that's different.
    And also very understandable.... :)
    Definately! Nothing seemed to help calm her other than snuggling and
    that was more to comfort her, she was still scared and shivering from fear. Never went as far as to tranquilize her.
    Probably just as well... sometimes they have bad reactions to tranquilizers, too...

    And being a small dog (Lhasa Apso) the possibility of a reaction could be increased. We did try various physical options, even to the point of
    stuffing cotton in her ears and holding in place with earmuffs. I think
    that lasted about four minutes!



    ... Too Stressed: Your heart beats in 7/8 time.
    That sounds like a form of Afib.... <G>
    Wonder if Stauss, Souza, etc., ever had as a working title The Afib March?!
    (You mean (Johann) Strauss and (John Philip) Sousa...?) Probably

    Yes.

    not, as I don't think that atrial fibrillation was known as such
    in their day(s), and almost certainly not shortened to Afib
    yet.... <G>

    You're probably right, and if known of probably known my another name
    like palpitations Hmm: 'The Palpatation Samba'! By a different
    composer, of course!




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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Tue Apr 7 17:10:50 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 31-Mar-2020 10:29 <=-

    Refilled my coffee and noted there was a snow shower! Didn't stick
    (it's just above freezing out there).
    Pretty typical for this time of year.... :)
    True, just seemed odd as no indication otherwise.

    Rain and snow showers do come out of nowhere sometimes.... ;)

    Yesterday was bright and sunny; today starting off overcast.

    Yesterday and today here have been bright and sunny, and somewhat
    warm... I see the forecast for the rest of the week is going to be
    cooler, more overcast, and a good chance for precipitation every day...

    I couldn't drink liquid milk for a while; just got the calcium, etc.,
    <snip>
    Right. The only thing I missed about not being able to ingest liquid
    milk is couldn't eat cereal. Didn't have cereal all the time but was
    a breakfast option. Water isn't a taste substitute! I don't think the
    milk alternatives were available in the 70's (soy, almond. etc.).
    Powdered milk -- ??; I don't recall one way or another.
    Powdered milk certainly was an option.... my parents started using it
    to stretch out the milk back in the late 50's... we called it "funny
    milk" because it was funny that powder turned into milk... and it
    tasted funny.... ;)
    Maybe I had had powdered milk and didn't like the taste so ignored it
    as an alternative. Long time ago!
    That could well have been the case.... :) I remember that later they
    came out with powdered whole milk which was more tolerable... I used
    it in cooking after I was married and out on my own...
    S-t-r-e-t-c-h that budget!

    Actually, the powdered whole milk wasn't all that inexpensive... it was
    more a way to keep milk as a shelf-stable staple, particular for baking
    and cooking... But the skim milk that my parents bought was more an
    attempt to stretch the budget.... :)

    And this just popped in: I remember something like "Tiger's Milk" which was supposed to be more of a protein or some sort of supplement. As I recall an 'odd' taste. I was probably pre- to early teen then.

    Yes, I remember that too... probably was fortified with soy and other proteins... not something I was impressed with either....

    Soy milk was available in the 60's, as I know it was a possible
    substitute for infant formulas (my cousin was given it, since she
    was allergic to cow's milk).... But I don't think the nut milks
    were available yet, nor the grain milks... A friend of mine refers
    to those milk substitutes as mylks.... :)
    Just a slight change in spelling to acknowledge the difference. So
    the alternatives were around; would seem like I would have been aware.
    I did use soy milk and later other milk alternatives but that wasn't
    until probably the 90's. And cut with water to stretch - the price!!
    True.... one didn't buy the alternatives to economize, the way
    powdered skim milk could do.... ;) Even though I have no problems
    with real milk (quite the contrary!), I do enjoy getting the dark
    chocolate almond milk on occasion... :)
    One certainly didn't use the milk alternatives for economical
    reasons!! Some of the quart prices could fund small nations!! LIS, I
    had the first pour or two 'straight up', then started adding water to extend.

    I don't think I'd add water to extend the mylks... just drink them in
    smaller quantities....

    No, she never got into the habit of jumping on furniture, nor people.
    Well, the only time she tried to climb was during thunderstorms or
    fireworks when she was scared and wanted to be held and comforted --
    that's different.
    And also very understandable.... :)
    Definately! Nothing seemed to help calm her other than snuggling and
    that was more to comfort her, she was still scared and shivering from
    fear. Never went as far as to tranquilize her.
    Probably just as well... sometimes they have bad reactions to
    tranquilizers, too...
    And being a small dog (Lhasa Apso) the possibility of a reaction could
    be increased.

    True...

    We did try various physical options, even to the point of stuffing
    cotton in her ears and holding in place with earmuffs. I think that lasted about four minutes!

    That's longer than I would have thought it would last... <G>

    ... Too Stressed: Your heart beats in 7/8 time.
    That sounds like a form of Afib.... <G>
    Wonder if Stauss, Souza, etc., ever had as a working title The Afib
    March?!
    (You mean (Johann) Strauss and (John Philip) Sousa...?)
    Yes.
    Probably not, as I don't think that atrial fibrillation was known as
    such in their day(s), and almost certainly not shortened to Afib
    yet.... <G>
    You're probably right, and if known of probably known my another name
    like palpitations Hmm: 'The Palpatation Samba'! By a different
    composer, of course!

    Maybe it could be called The Palpitation Polka... then it could still be
    by Strauss.... ;)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Wed Apr 8 08:36:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    Refilled my coffee and noted there was a snow shower! Didn't stick
    (it's just above freezing out there).
    Pretty typical for this time of year.... :)
    True, just seemed odd as no indication otherwise.
    Rain and snow showers do come out of nowhere sometimes.... ;)
    Yesterday was bright and sunny; today starting off overcast.
    Yesterday and today here have been bright and sunny, and somewhat
    warm... I see the forecast for the rest of the week is going to
    be cooler, more overcast, and a good chance for precipitation
    every day...

    Was bright and sunny and hit 80 here at the house -- went outside and
    did some more cleanup in the afternoon. A little after 7 p.m. things
    start to get interesting: warning sirens go off. My window up here
    faces South: nothing unusual. Check wUnderground: big colourful
    diagonal band to the northwest about the Cedra Rapids area, 90 miles
    from here. Hmmm!

    About 8:15 the storm hits: winds are noticeable but too bad, sounds
    like big raindrops, then the clunking starts: hail! Saw some which were
    pretty big: have one in the freezer which is about the size of a ping
    pong ball. Saving that one for Autum when she's over later this
    morning.

    Too early to go our to check for any damage; doesn't look like anything happened to the cars (no garage) when checked from looking out the
    windows. Also want to check for any damage to the roof and if any
    windows cracked. Hopefully not!


    I couldn't drink liquid milk for a while; just got the calcium, etc.,
    <snip>
    Right. The only thing I missed about not being able to ingest liquid
    milk is couldn't eat cereal. Didn't have cereal all the time but was
    a breakfast option. Water isn't a taste substitute! I don't think the
    milk alternatives were available in the 70's (soy, almond. etc.).
    Powdered milk -- ??; I don't recall one way or another.
    Powdered milk certainly was an option.... my parents started using it
    to stretch out the milk back in the late 50's... we called it "funny
    milk" because it was funny that powder turned into milk... and it
    tasted funny.... ;)
    Maybe I had had powdered milk and didn't like the taste so ignored it
    as an alternative. Long time ago!
    That could well have been the case.... :) I remember that later they
    came out with powdered whole milk which was more tolerable... I used
    it in cooking after I was married and out on my own...
    S-t-r-e-t-c-h that budget!
    Actually, the powdered whole milk wasn't all that inexpensive...
    it was more a way to keep milk as a shelf-stable staple,
    particular for baking and cooking... But the skim milk that my
    parents bought was more an attempt to stretch the budget.... :)

    I remember growing up my Mother loved skim milk! To me was an odd
    light blue and tasted watered down. I don't recall anything about
    prices -- maybe because as delivered and all I had to do was go outside
    and get it out of the insulated metal box.


    And this just popped in: I remember something like "Tiger's Milk" which was supposed to be more of a protein or some sort of supplement. As I recall an 'odd' taste. I was probably pre- to early teen then.
    Yes, I remember that too... probably was fortified with soy and
    other proteins... not something I was impressed with either....

    Maybe was something the adults bought to make up for the nutrients
    missing in the watered-down skim milk! <g>


    Soy milk was available in the 60's, as I know it was a possible
    substitute for infant formulas (my cousin was given it, since she
    was allergic to cow's milk).... But I don't think the nut milks
    were available yet, nor the grain milks... A friend of mine refers
    to those milk substitutes as mylks.... :)
    Just a slight change in spelling to acknowledge the difference. So
    the alternatives were around; would seem like I would have been aware.
    I did use soy milk and later other milk alternatives but that wasn't
    until probably the 90's. And cut with water to stretch - the price!!
    True.... one didn't buy the alternatives to economize, the way
    powdered skim milk could do.... ;) Even though I have no problems
    with real milk (quite the contrary!), I do enjoy getting the dark
    chocolate almond milk on occasion... :)
    One certainly didn't use the milk alternatives for economical
    reasons!! Some of the quart prices could fund small nations!! LIS, I
    had the first pour or two 'straight up', then started adding water to extend.
    I don't think I'd add water to extend the mylks... just drink
    them in smaller quantities....

    Whichever ones I was buying back then, even the store brand, sort of had
    a slightly too-strong initial flavour ('uncut'). Not unpleasant. not oeverpowering, just noticeable. So the first pour or two (and I didn't
    use that much) was a treat because of the flavour; cut with water a
    coupl eof times to extend and save some money -- maybe got four or five
    extra cereal-for-breakfast out out it, which with my semi-randomness of
    what to have for breakfast would extend two or three weeks.



    We did try various physical options, even to the point of stuffing
    cotton in her ears and holding in place with earmuffs. I think that lasted about four minutes!
    That's longer than I would have thought it would last... <G>

    <chuckle> She sort of knew what it was for, but the uncomfortableness
    or ticklishness or whatever finally got to her!


    ... Too Stressed: Your heart beats in 7/8 time.
    That sounds like a form of Afib.... <G>
    Wonder if Stauss, Souza, etc., ever had as a working title The Afib
    March?!
    (You mean (Johann) Strauss and (John Philip) Sousa...?)
    Yes.
    Probably not, as I don't think that atrial fibrillation was known as
    such in their day(s), and almost certainly not shortened to Afib
    yet.... <G>
    You're probably right, and if known of probably known my another name
    like palpitations Hmm: 'The Palpatation Samba'! By a different
    composer, of course!
    Maybe it could be called The Palpitation Polka... then it could
    still be by Strauss.... ;)

    That one is better! :)



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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to NANCY BACKUS on Sun Feb 23 10:33:00 2020
    Nancy,

    Which one were you going to be taking over as Coordinator....? Or was NB>that yet another one...?

    It was GatorNet...and I still haven't gotten a reply back. I got
    reconnected with DixieNet, though.

    ... Three of the four basic food groups: pies, ice cream and cake.

    Is the fourth one dessert?? <G>

    Maybe... or maybe just cookies.... ;)

    I need to get some Chips Ahoy cookies with Reese's pieces. :)

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    More like this tagline...

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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Fri Apr 17 17:43:38 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 08-Apr-2020 08:36 <=-

    Pretty typical for this time of year.... :)
    True, just seemed odd as no indication otherwise.
    Rain and snow showers do come out of nowhere sometimes.... ;)
    Yesterday was bright and sunny; today starting off overcast.
    Yesterday and today here have been bright and sunny, and somewhat
    warm... I see the forecast for the rest of the week is going to be
    cooler, more overcast, and a good chance for precipitation every day...
    Was bright and sunny and hit 80 here at the house -- went outside and
    did some more cleanup in the afternoon. A little after 7 p.m. things start to get interesting: warning sirens go off. My window up here
    faces South: nothing unusual. Check wUnderground: big colourful
    diagonal band to the northwest about the Cedar Rapids area, 90 miles
    from here. Hmmm!

    Sounds rather ominous... ;) And a good reason for the sirens...

    About 8:15 the storm hits: winds are noticeable but not too bad, sounds like big raindrops, then the clunking starts: hail! Saw some which
    were pretty big: have one in the freezer which is about the size of a
    ping pong ball. Saving that one for Autumn when she's over later this morning.

    Was she impressed...? ;) That is a rather good-sized chunk of ice...

    Too early to go out to check for any damage; doesn't look like
    anything happened to the cars (no garage) when checked from looking out the windows. Also want to check for any damage to the roof and if any windows cracked. Hopefully not!

    I seem to remember a message later that indicated that your car did get
    some damage... did you have any other damage...?

    Powdered milk certainly was an option.... my parents started using it
    to stretch out the milk back in the late 50's... we called it "funny
    milk" because it was funny that powder turned into milk... and it
    tasted funny.... ;)
    Maybe I had had powdered milk and didn't like the taste so ignored it
    as an alternative. Long time ago!
    That could well have been the case.... :) I remember that later they
    came out with powdered whole milk which was more tolerable... I used
    it in cooking after I was married and out on my own...
    S-t-r-e-t-c-h that budget!
    Actually, the powdered whole milk wasn't all that inexpensive... it
    was more a way to keep milk as a shelf-stable staple, in particular
    for baking and cooking... But the skim milk that my parents bought
    was more an attempt to stretch the budget.... :)
    I remember growing up my Mother loved skim milk! To me was an odd
    light blue and tasted watered down. I don't recall anything about
    prices -- maybe because as delivered and all I had to do was go
    outside and get it out of the insulated metal box.

    Powdered skim milk was definitely less expensive... The bottled skim
    milk might have been a little less expensive (the cream skimmed off
    could be sold for a premium, after all...), but it might also have been
    close to the same price, delivered... I'd agree with your assessment...
    and would have as a child, as well.. :)

    And this just popped in: I remember something like "Tiger's Milk" which
    was supposed to be more of a protein or some sort of supplement. As I
    recall an 'odd' taste. I was probably pre- to early teen then.
    Yes, I remember that too... probably was fortified with soy and other
    proteins... not something I was impressed with either....
    Maybe was something the adults bought to make up for the nutrients
    missing in the watered-down skim milk! <g>

    I probably tasted it on my own, nothing that my parents would have
    bought, I'm sure... As I recall, it was rather pricey, too... Maybe a forerunner of today's sports drinks... ;)

    I did use soy milk and later other milk alternatives but that wasn't
    until probably the 90's. And cut with water to stretch - the price!!
    True.... one didn't buy the alternatives to economize, the way
    powdered skim milk could do.... ;) Even though I have no problems
    with real milk (quite the contrary!), I do enjoy getting the dark
    chocolate almond milk on occasion... :)
    One certainly didn't use the milk alternatives for economical
    reasons!! Some of the quart prices could fund small nations!! LIS, I
    had the first pour or two 'straight up', then started adding water to
    extend.
    I don't think I'd add water to extend the mylks... just drink them in
    smaller quantities....
    Whichever ones I was buying back then, even the store brand, sort of
    had a slightly too-strong initial flavour ('uncut'). Not unpleasant.
    not oeverpowering, just noticeable. So the first pour or two (and I didn't use that much) was a treat because of the flavour; cut with
    water a couple of times to extend and save some money -- maybe got
    four or five extra cereal-for-breakfast out of it, which with my semi-randomness of what to have for breakfast would extend two or
    three weeks.

    I suppose, doing it just for your cereal would cover any weak/watered
    taste you'd get from doing that... cereals have a lot of taste
    themselves, usually....

    We did try various physical options, even to the point of stuffing
    cotton in her ears and holding in place with earmuffs. I think that
    lasted about four minutes!
    That's longer than I would have thought it would last... <G>
    <chuckle> She sort of knew what it was for, but the uncomfortableness
    or ticklishness or whatever finally got to her!

    OK. :)

    ... Too Stressed: Your heart beats in 7/8 time.
    That sounds like a form of Afib.... <G>
    Wonder if Stauss, Souza, etc., ever had as a working title The Afib
    March?!
    (You mean (Johann) Strauss and (John Philip) Sousa...?)
    Yes.
    Probably not, as I don't think that atrial fibrillation was known as
    such in their day(s), and almost certainly not shortened to Afib
    yet.... <G>
    You're probably right, and if known of probably known my another name
    like palpitations Hmm: 'The Palpatation Samba'! By a different
    composer, of course!
    Maybe it could be called The Palpitation Polka... then it could still
    be by Strauss.... ;)
    That one is better! :)

    Has a better alliteration to it... ;)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Sat Apr 18 08:35:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    Pretty typical for this time of year.... :)
    True, just seemed odd as no indication otherwise.
    Rain and snow showers do come out of nowhere sometimes.... ;)
    Yesterday was bright and sunny; today starting off overcast.
    Yesterday and today here have been bright and sunny, and somewhat
    warm... I see the forecast for the rest of the week is going to be
    cooler, more overcast, and a good chance for precipitation every day...
    Was bright and sunny and hit 80 here at the house -- went outside and
    did some more cleanup in the afternoon. A little after 7 p.m. things start to get interesting: warning sirens go off. My window up here
    faces South: nothing unusual. Check wUnderground: big colourful
    diagonal band to the northwest about the Cedar Rapids area, 90 miles
    from here. Hmmm!
    Sounds rather ominous... ;) And a good reason for the sirens...

    Yes: they only go off if something serious in the area. Well, once a
    false alarm when a trigger malfunction occurred.


    About 8:15 the storm hits: winds are noticeable but not too bad, sounds like big raindrops, then the clunking starts: hail! Saw some which
    were pretty big: have one in the freezer which is about the size of a
    ping pong ball. Saving that one for Autumn when she's over later this morning.
    Was she impressed...? ;) That is a rather good-sized chunk of
    ice...

    She admired it but said they had some bigger ones. What she did want to
    do was rinse our hailstone off and eat it. Showed her the dirt and said
    there was dirt inside and that squashed that idea. ...I guess would be
    clean once rinsed but this hailstone had a bunch of dark speckles.


    Too early to go out to check for any damage; doesn't look like
    anything happened to the cars (no garage) when checked from looking out the windows. Also want to check for any damage to the roof and if any windows cracked. Hopefully not!
    I seem to remember a message later that indicated that your car
    did get some damage... did you have any other damage...?

    Just some cracks and chips on the vinyl siding and a couple of rips in
    the slider's screen.



    Actually, the powdered whole milk wasn't all that inexpensive... it
    was more a way to keep milk as a shelf-stable staple, in particular
    for baking and cooking... But the skim milk that my parents bought
    was more an attempt to stretch the budget.... :)
    I remember growing up my Mother loved skim milk! To me was an odd
    light blue and tasted watered down. I don't recall anything about
    prices -- maybe because as delivered and all I had to do was go
    outside and get it out of the insulated metal box.
    Powdered skim milk was definitely less expensive... The bottled
    skim milk might have been a little less expensive (the cream
    skimmed off could be sold for a premium, after all...), but it
    might also have been close to the same price, delivered... I'd
    agree with your assessment... and would have as a child, as
    well.. :)

    Costs and the concept of 'afford/not afford' never really occurred to me
    back then, just sort of an "it costs money" idea and wasting was not
    good. "Gimme-gimme-gimme" was definitely not allowed, though if I
    wanted something and there was a valid reason plus I had earned it one
    way or another (chores, being good, behaving and the like) I'd get it,
    though I also remember rarely asking for anything.



    And this just popped in: I remember something like "Tiger's Milk" which
    was supposed to be more of a protein or some sort of supplement. As I
    recall an 'odd' taste. I was probably pre- to early teen then.
    Yes, I remember that too... probably was fortified with soy and other
    proteins... not something I was impressed with either....
    Maybe was something the adults bought to make up for the nutrients
    missing in the watered-down skim milk! <g>
    I probably tasted it on my own, nothing that my parents would
    have bought, I'm sure... As I recall, it was rather pricey,
    too... Maybe a forerunner of today's sports drinks... ;)

    It probably was! ...We need to get our memories going and update the Wikipedia article: it says Tiger's Milk is a nutrition bar from the
    1960's, I'm remembering it or something in a rectangular box (like cereal comes in) -- a powder added to milk. not really recalling water, and I
    think occasionally orange juice but that made it taste 'off' and gave a
    gritty texture.


    I don't think I'd add water to extend the mylks... just drink them in
    smaller quantities....
    Whichever ones I was buying back then, even the store brand, sort of
    had a slightly too-strong initial flavour ('uncut'). Not unpleasant.
    not oeverpowering, just noticeable. So the first pour or two (and I didn't use that much) was a treat because of the flavour; cut with
    water a couple of times to extend and save some money -- maybe got
    four or five extra cereal-for-breakfast out of it, which with my semi-randomness of what to have for breakfast would extend two or
    three weeks.
    I suppose, doing it just for your cereal would cover any
    weak/watered taste you'd get from doing that... cereals have a
    lot of taste themselves, usually....

    Not too much flavour from plain shredded wheat! Though I have munched
    on the dry "little bales of hay" as I get kidded about and there is a different taste when milk added. Never got in to the sweet cereals - I
    don't like the coated shredded wheat. OTOH Corn Flakes taste bland plus
    become a soggy mass so not really a fan of those either. OMG: I _am_ a
    picky eater!!!


    We did try various physical options, even to the point of stuffing
    cotton in her ears and holding in place with earmuffs. I think that
    lasted about four minutes!
    That's longer than I would have thought it would last... <G>
    <chuckle> She sort of knew what it was for, but the uncomfortableness
    or ticklishness or whatever finally got to her!
    OK. :)

    She did look rather funny with earmuffs on! And she did try to keep the
    cotton in her ears with the earmuffs holding -- maybe helped a little
    which she knew but just couldn't stand it any more -- shake-shake-shake!



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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to BARRY MARTIN on Mon Apr 20 05:47:00 2020
    Barry,

    She admired it but said they had some bigger ones. What she did want to BM>do was rinse our hailstone off and eat it. Showed her the dirt and said BM>there was dirt inside and that squashed that idea. ...I guess would be BM>clean once rinsed but this hailstone had a bunch of dark speckles.

    You don't want to eat hailstones...period.

    Just some cracks and chips on the vinyl siding and a couple of rips in BM>the slider's screen.

    Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama were pounded again last night with tornadoes, etc. One storm near Pickwick, Mississippi, had a doppler
    velocity signature of 150 mph and a debris ball.

    too... Maybe a forerunner of today's sports drinks... ;)

    It probably was! ...We need to get our memories going and update the BM>Wikipedia article: it says Tiger's Milk is a nutrition bar from the BM>1960's, I'm remembering it or something in a rectangular box (like cereal BM>comes in) -- a powder added to milk. not really recalling water, and I BM>think occasionally orange juice but that made it taste 'off' and gave a BM>gritty texture.

    Amazing that the University Of Florida created Gatorade for their athletes...then either sold the rights to it, or allowed folks to use
    it, with royalty payments.

    Not too much flavour from plain shredded wheat! Though I have munched
    on the dry "little bales of hay" as I get kidded about and there is a BM>different taste when milk added. Never got in to the sweet cereals - I BM>don't like the coated shredded wheat. OTOH Corn Flakes taste bland plus BM>become a soggy mass so not really a fan of those either. OMG: I _am_ a BM>picky eater!!!

    My friends dachshund LOVES the shredded wheat!! :P

    Daryl

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Tue Apr 21 07:23:00 2020

    Hi Daryl!

    She admired it but said they had some bigger ones. What she did want to
    do was rinse our hailstone off and eat it. Showed her the dirt and said
    there was dirt inside and that squashed that idea. ...I guess would be
    clean once rinsed but this hailstone had a bunch of dark speckles.
    You don't want to eat hailstones...period.

    Too hard on the teeth?!


    Just some cracks and chips on the vinyl siding and a couple of rips in
    the slider's screen.
    Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama were pounded again last
    night with tornadoes, etc. One storm near Pickwick, Mississippi,
    had a doppler velocity signature of 150 mph and a debris ball.

    (What do the call the newspaper there? The Pickwick Paper! Wonder if a
    guy named Dickens is the editor?!)

    As for that weather, not good. Our little hailstorm up here was barely
    a footnote by comparison.


    too... Maybe a forerunner of today's sports drinks... ;)
    It probably was! ...We need to get our memories going and update the
    Wikipedia article: it says Tiger's Milk is a nutrition bar from the
    1960's, I'm remembering it or something in a rectangular box (like cereal
    comes in) -- a powder added to milk. not really recalling water, and I
    think occasionally orange juice but that made it taste 'off' and gave a
    gritty texture.
    Amazing that the University Of Florida created Gatorade for
    their athletes...then either sold the rights to it, or allowed
    folks to use it, with royalty payments.

    I remember reading that. Usually one thinks of a team of food
    scientists in the bowels of a mega-corporation developing this. Nope:
    someone at home, or maybe the school's cafeteria mixing together a
    concoction to help his team win.



    Not too much flavour from plain shredded wheat! Though I have munched
    on the dry "little bales of hay" as I get kidded about and there is a
    different taste when milk added. Never got in to the sweet cereals - I
    don't like the coated shredded wheat. OTOH Corn Flakes taste bland plus
    become a soggy mass so not really a fan of those either. OMG: I _am_ a
    picky eater!!!
    My friends dachshund LOVES the shredded wheat!! :P

    I'm in good company!



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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Daryl Stout on Wed Apr 22 18:52:06 2020
    Quoting Daryl Stout to NANCY BACKUS on 23-Feb-2020 10:33 <=-

    Which one were you going to be taking over as Coordinator....? Or was
    that yet another one...?

    It was GatorNet...and I still haven't gotten a reply back. I got reconnected with DixieNet, though.

    So maybe it's too late to do anything about GatorNet...? Or did you
    finally hear...?

    ... Three of the four basic food groups: pies, ice cream and cake.
    Is the fourth one dessert?? <G>
    Maybe... or maybe just cookies.... ;)

    I need to get some Chips Ahoy cookies with Reese's pieces. :)

    And did you...? ;)

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    More like this tagline...
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    That could be a deterrent, for sure... <G>

    ttyl neb

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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to BARRY MARTIN on Thu Apr 23 11:26:00 2020
    Barry,

    You don't want to eat hailstones...period.

    Too hard on the teeth?!

    I like munching on crushed ice, but not like that!!

    Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama were pounded again last
    night with tornadoes, etc. One storm near Pickwick, Mississippi,
    had a doppler velocity signature of 150 mph and a debris ball.

    (What do the call the newspaper there? The Pickwick Paper! Wonder if a BM>guy named Dickens is the editor?!)

    Really...I thought about a possible quote, but it was from
    Shakespeare.

    As for that weather, not good. Our little hailstorm up here was barely
    a footnote by comparison.

    We may see hailstorms here Friday.

    Amazing that the University Of Florida created Gatorade for
    their athletes...then either sold the rights to it, or allowed
    folks to use it, with royalty payments.

    I remember reading that. Usually one thinks of a team of food
    scientists in the bowels of a mega-corporation developing this. Nope: BM>someone at home, or maybe the school's cafeteria mixing together a BM>concoction to help his team win.

    I used to drink it all the time.

    My friends dachshund LOVES the shredded wheat!! :P

    I'm in good company!

    He also loves carrots and green beans.

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to NANCY BACKUS on Thu Apr 23 11:27:00 2020
    Nancy,

    It was GatorNet...and I still haven't gotten a reply back. I got reconnected with DixieNet, though.

    So maybe it's too late to do anything about GatorNet...? Or did you NB>finally hear...?

    I saw a message from there toss...but I'm having packet problems. The
    tosser says "it can't detect what type of packet it is", so the packets
    are grunged and marked as "bad".

    I need to get some Chips Ahoy cookies with Reese's pieces. :)

    And did you...? ;)

    Yep...10 boxes..and scarfed a whole one in a day.

    * OLX 1.53 * Please don't startle or scare me...I tend to poop easily.

    That could be a deterrent, for sure... <G>

    Especially if you wear white pants. :P

    Daryl

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Fri Apr 24 12:30:00 2020

    Hi Daryl!

    You don't want to eat hailstones...period.
    Too hard on the teeth?!
    I like munching on crushed ice, but not like that!!

    Yumm: chunky!! ...Just note one of the signs of anemia can be the
    excessive desire to eat ice. No idea why. Also would guess with all
    the tests you've had they'd catch anemia by now.



    As for that weather, not good. Our little hailstorm up here was barely
    a footnote by comparison.
    We may see hailstorms here Friday.

    Friday morning currently as I write this: raining on and off; no nasty
    weather forecast.


    Amazing that the University Of Florida created Gatorade for
    their athletes...then either sold the rights to it, or allowed
    folks to use it, with royalty payments.
    I remember reading that. Usually one thinks of a team of food
    scientists in the bowels of a mega-corporation developing this. Nope:
    someone at home, or maybe the school's cafeteria mixing together a
    concoction to help his team win.
    I used to drink it all the time.

    Gives you your flavoured water plus nutrients!


    My friends dachshund LOVES the shredded wheat!! :P
    I'm in good company!
    He also loves carrots and green beans.

    Those too, preferably not mushy overcooked.



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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Mon Apr 27 16:28:30 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 18-Apr-2020 08:35 <=-

    Was bright and sunny and hit 80 here at the house -- went outside and
    did some more cleanup in the afternoon. A little after 7 p.m. things
    start to get interesting: warning sirens go off. My window up here
    faces South: nothing unusual. Check wUnderground: big colourful
    diagonal band to the northwest about the Cedar Rapids area, 90 miles
    from here. Hmmm!
    Sounds rather ominous... ;) And a good reason for the sirens...
    Yes: they only go off if something serious in the area. Well, once a false alarm when a trigger malfunction occurred.

    Still, pretty good idea not to just ignore... ;)

    About 8:15 the storm hits: winds are noticeable but not too bad, sounds
    like big raindrops, then the clunking starts: hail! Saw some which
    were pretty big: have one in the freezer which is about the size of a
    ping pong ball. Saving that one for Autumn when she's over later this
    morning.
    Was she impressed...? ;) That is a rather good-sized chunk of ice...
    She admired it but said they had some bigger ones. What she did want
    to do was rinse our hailstone off and eat it. Showed her the dirt and said there was dirt inside and that squashed that idea. ...I guess
    would be clean once rinsed but this hailstone had a bunch of dark speckles.

    Probably best not to ingest unless one was desperate for water... and
    even then would probably be best to melt and then boil it... ;) I
    wonder if she'd tried that on her parents with the hail they got, and
    was also told not a good idea... ;)

    Too early to go out to check for any damage; doesn't look like
    anything happened to the cars (no garage) when checked from looking
    out the windows. Also want to check for any damage to the roof and
    if any windows cracked. Hopefully not!
    I seem to remember a message later that indicated that your car did
    get some damage... did you have any other damage...?
    Just some cracks and chips on the vinyl siding and a couple of rips in
    the slider's screen.

    Not too bad, then, considering the hailstorm itself....

    Actually, the powdered whole milk wasn't all that inexpensive... it
    was more a way to keep milk as a shelf-stable staple, in particular
    for baking and cooking... But the skim milk that my parents bought
    was more an attempt to stretch the budget.... :)
    I remember growing up my Mother loved skim milk! To me was an odd
    light blue and tasted watered down. I don't recall anything about
    prices -- maybe because as delivered and all I had to do was go
    outside and get it out of the insulated metal box.
    Powdered skim milk was definitely less expensive... The bottled skim
    milk might have been a little less expensive (the cream skimmed off
    could be sold for a premium, after all...), but it might also have
    been close to the same price, delivered... I'd agree with your
    assessment... and would have as a child, as well.. :)
    Costs and the concept of 'afford/not afford' never really occurred to
    me back then, just sort of an "it costs money" idea and wasting was not good. "Gimme-gimme-gimme" was definitely not allowed, though if I
    wanted something and there was a valid reason plus I had earned it one
    way or another (chores, being good, behaving and the like) I'd get it, though I also remember rarely asking for anything.

    Similar for me... as the oldest of 8 kids, I did have a concept of
    things costing money, and of spending wisely and carefully.... but
    didn't pay a lot of mind to exact costs... and knew better than to ask
    for anything not a true need... which also meant I didn't ask much...

    And this just popped in: I remember something like "Tiger's Milk" which
    was supposed to be more of a protein or some sort of supplement. As I
    recall an 'odd' taste. I was probably pre- to early teen then.
    Yes, I remember that too... probably was fortified with soy and other
    proteins... not something I was impressed with either....
    Maybe was something the adults bought to make up for the nutrients
    missing in the watered-down skim milk! <g>
    I probably tasted it on my own, nothing that my parents would have
    bought, I'm sure... As I recall, it was rather pricey, too... Maybe
    a forerunner of today's sports drinks... ;)
    It probably was! ...We need to get our memories going and update the Wikipedia article: it says Tiger's Milk is a nutrition bar from the 1960's, I'm remembering it or something in a rectangular box (like
    cereal comes in) -- a powder added to milk. not really recalling water, and I think occasionally orange juice but that made it taste 'off' and gave a gritty texture.

    It probably was originally the powder, and I wouldn't doubt they might
    have then come out with a nutrition bar to make it more convenient...
    Shaklee (supplements) had a soy-based (IIRC) protein powder supplement
    that I used for a while but then decided I disliked it more than getting
    any benefit from it....

    I don't think I'd add water to extend the mylks... just drink them in
    smaller quantities....
    Whichever ones I was buying back then, even the store brand, sort of
    had a slightly too-strong initial flavour ('uncut'). Not unpleasant.
    not oeverpowering, just noticeable. So the first pour or two (and I
    didn't use that much) was a treat because of the flavour; cut with
    water a couple of times to extend and save some money -- maybe got
    four or five extra cereal-for-breakfast out of it, which with my
    semi-randomness of what to have for breakfast would extend two or
    three weeks.
    I suppose, doing it just for your cereal would cover any weak/watered
    taste you'd get from doing that... cereals have a lot of taste
    themselves, usually....
    Not too much flavour from plain shredded wheat! Though I have munched
    on the dry "little bales of hay" as I get kidded about and there is a different taste when milk added. Never got in to the sweet cereals -
    I don't like the coated shredded wheat. OTOH Corn Flakes taste bland
    plus become a soggy mass so not really a fan of those either. OMG: I
    _am_ a picky eater!!!

    I grew up with plain shredded wheat, corn flakes, Cheerios, once in a
    while raisin bran and the Chex cereals... nothing sugared... oh, and
    wheat puffs and rice puffs... and various hot cereals like oatmeal and Wheatena... I don't usually do breakfast anymore... for a while was
    using cold cereal to munch on out of the box, but don't now... once in a
    while still have oatmeal, with raisins cooked into it and various
    toppings.... most a holdover from childhood... ;)

    We did try various physical options, even to the point of stuffing
    cotton in her ears and holding in place with earmuffs. I think that
    lasted about four minutes!
    That's longer than I would have thought it would last... <G>
    <chuckle> She sort of knew what it was for, but the uncomfortableness
    or ticklishness or whatever finally got to her!
    OK. :)
    She did look rather funny with earmuffs on! And she did try to keep
    the cotton in her ears with the earmuffs holding -- maybe helped a
    little which she knew but just couldn't stand it any more -- shake-shake-shake!

    Can't blame her much... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Tue Apr 28 10:19:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    Was bright and sunny and hit 80 here at the house -- went outside and
    did some more cleanup in the afternoon. A little after 7 p.m. things
    start to get interesting: warning sirens go off. My window up here
    faces South: nothing unusual. Check wUnderground: big colourful
    diagonal band to the northwest about the Cedar Rapids area, 90 miles
    from here. Hmmm!
    Sounds rather ominous... ;) And a good reason for the sirens...
    Yes: they only go off if something serious in the area. Well, once a false alarm when a trigger malfunction occurred.
    Still, pretty good idea not to just ignore... ;)

    Right. 99.9% of the time there's something going on which needs to me monitored.

    We're supposed to have some 'potential for bad weather' late this
    afternoon. At this point for me it's just close the windows so the rain doesn't come in.


    About 8:15 the storm hits: winds are noticeable but not too bad, sounds
    like big raindrops, then the clunking starts: hail! Saw some which
    were pretty big: have one in the freezer which is about the size of a
    ping pong ball. Saving that one for Autumn when she's over later this
    morning.
    Was she impressed...? ;) That is a rather good-sized chunk of ice...
    She admired it but said they had some bigger ones. What she did want
    to do was rinse our hailstone off and eat it. Showed her the dirt and said there was dirt inside and that squashed that idea. ...I guess
    would be clean once rinsed but this hailstone had a bunch of dark speckles.
    Probably best not to ingest unless one was desperate for water...
    and even then would probably be best to melt and then boil it...
    ;) I wonder if she'd tried that on her parents with the hail
    they got, and was also told not a good idea... ;)

    Probably - I'm not recalling. LIS she did want to eat the hail piece we
    kept in the freezer to show but was easily dissuaded, so either was
    another "no, don't eat the hail" agreeing with the no from home or just
    being shown the dirt was enough.


    Too early to go out to check for any damage; doesn't look like
    anything happened to the cars (no garage) when checked from looking
    out the windows. Also want to check for any damage to the roof and
    if any windows cracked. Hopefully not!
    I seem to remember a message later that indicated that your car did
    get some damage... did you have any other damage...?
    Just some cracks and chips on the vinyl siding and a couple of rips in
    the slider's screen.
    Not too bad, then, considering the hailstorm itself....

    Still have to do something about the screen replacement and chips in the siding......


    Actually, the powdered whole milk wasn't all that inexpensive... it
    was more a way to keep milk as a shelf-stable staple, in particular
    for baking and cooking... But the skim milk that my parents bought
    was more an attempt to stretch the budget.... :)
    I remember growing up my Mother loved skim milk! To me was an odd
    light blue and tasted watered down. I don't recall anything about
    prices -- maybe because as delivered and all I had to do was go
    outside and get it out of the insulated metal box.
    Powdered skim milk was definitely less expensive... The bottled skim
    milk might have been a little less expensive (the cream skimmed off
    could be sold for a premium, after all...), but it might also have
    been close to the same price, delivered... I'd agree with your
    assessment... and would have as a child, as well.. :)
    Costs and the concept of 'afford/not afford' never really occurred to
    me back then, just sort of an "it costs money" idea and wasting was not good. "Gimme-gimme-gimme" was definitely not allowed, though if I
    wanted something and there was a valid reason plus I had earned it one
    way or another (chores, being good, behaving and the like) I'd get it, though I also remember rarely asking for anything.
    Similar for me... as the oldest of 8 kids, I did have a concept
    of things costing money, and of spending wisely and carefully....
    but didn't pay a lot of mind to exact costs... and knew better
    than to ask for anything not a true need... which also meant I
    didn't ask much...

    I'm an "only brat" (sort of a joke on being the opposite of brattish);
    just not my way to whine about wanting something (well, I'm quite sure
    my Mother could come up with a few examples!). Christmas and birthdays
    I'm a pain: "What do you want for <event>?" "Ah dunno..." "(Just like
    all the other askings.)"


    And this just popped in: I remember something like "Tiger's Milk" which
    was supposed to be more of a protein or some sort of supplement. As I
    recall an 'odd' taste. I was probably pre- to early teen then.
    Yes, I remember that too... probably was fortified with soy and other
    proteins... not something I was impressed with either....
    Maybe was something the adults bought to make up for the nutrients
    missing in the watered-down skim milk! <g>
    I probably tasted it on my own, nothing that my parents would have
    bought, I'm sure... As I recall, it was rather pricey, too... Maybe
    a forerunner of today's sports drinks... ;)
    It probably was! ...We need to get our memories going and update the Wikipedia article: it says Tiger's Milk is a nutrition bar from the 1960's, I'm remembering it or something in a rectangular box (like
    cereal comes in) -- a powder added to milk. not really recalling water, and I think occasionally orange juice but that made it taste 'off' and gave a gritty texture.
    It probably was originally the powder, and I wouldn't doubt they
    might have then come out with a nutrition bar to make it more convenient...

    Seems a logical evolution. The powder in milk (or any liquid) isn't as convenient as being able to acrry around a nutrition or now energy bar.

    Shaklee (supplements) had a soy-based (IIRC)
    protein powder supplement that I used for a while but then
    decided I disliked it more than getting any benefit from it....

    I've forgotten about Shaklee! ...If something doesn't taste all that
    good and the reason for taking it is semi-casual I'd stop taking it
    also. (And just to cover my rump, just because one person doesn't like
    the taste doesn't mean someone else won't.)


    I don't think I'd add water to extend the mylks... just drink them in
    smaller quantities....
    Whichever ones I was buying back then, even the store brand, sort of
    had a slightly too-strong initial flavour ('uncut'). Not unpleasant.
    not oeverpowering, just noticeable. So the first pour or two (and I
    didn't use that much) was a treat because of the flavour; cut with
    water a couple of times to extend and save some money -- maybe got
    four or five extra cereal-for-breakfast out of it, which with my
    semi-randomness of what to have for breakfast would extend two or
    three weeks.
    I suppose, doing it just for your cereal would cover any weak/watered
    taste you'd get from doing that... cereals have a lot of taste
    themselves, usually....
    Not too much flavour from plain shredded wheat! Though I have munched
    on the dry "little bales of hay" as I get kidded about and there is a different taste when milk added. Never got in to the sweet cereals -
    I don't like the coated shredded wheat. OTOH Corn Flakes taste bland
    plus become a soggy mass so not really a fan of those either. OMG: I
    _am_ a picky eater!!!
    I grew up with plain shredded wheat, corn flakes, Cheerios, once
    in a while raisin bran and the Chex cereals... nothing sugared...
    oh, and wheat puffs and rice puffs... and various hot cereals
    like oatmeal and Wheatena... I don't usually do breakfast
    anymore... for a while was using cold cereal to munch on out of
    the box, but don't now... once in a while still have oatmeal,
    with raisins cooked into it and various toppings.... most a
    holdover from childhood... ;)

    IIRC you also get up later which would tend to lessen the need for a
    breakfast to tide over until lunch. Or some people just aren't into a breakfast and don't need it. As for the 'besides cereals' some of them
    tasted like wallpaper paste to me: just bland no matter the topping or mix-ins. Oatmeal I like, preferably the flavoured kind, but not so much
    the insteat Cream and Berries type: too sweet.

    Rare times go out for breakfast I do go a little wild (and usually
    little to no lunch).



    We did try various physical options, even to the point of stuffing
    cotton in her ears and holding in place with earmuffs. I think that
    lasted about four minutes!
    That's longer than I would have thought it would last... <G>
    <chuckle> She sort of knew what it was for, but the uncomfortableness
    or ticklishness or whatever finally got to her!
    OK. :)
    She did look rather funny with earmuffs on! And she did try to keep
    the cotton in her ears with the earmuffs holding -- maybe helped a
    little which she knew but just couldn't stand it any more -- shake-shake-shake!
    Can't blame her much... :)

    No. can't. Probably between a lot more sensitive hearing, not
    understanding the fireworks noise, possibly even the compressions on
    her body as the sound waves struck....



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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Daryl Stout on Thu Apr 30 19:59:58 2020
    Quoting Daryl Stout to NANCY BACKUS on 23-Apr-2020 11:27 <=-

    It was GatorNet...and I still haven't gotten a reply back. I got
    reconnected with DixieNet, though.
    So maybe it's too late to do anything about GatorNet...? Or did you
    finally hear...?

    I saw a message from there toss...but I'm having packet problems.
    The tosser says "it can't detect what type of packet it is", so the packets are grunged and marked as "bad".

    Hmmm.... that's odd... Only happens with GatorNet...?

    I need to get some Chips Ahoy cookies with Reese's pieces. :)
    And did you...? ;)

    Yep...10 boxes..and scarfed a whole one in a day.

    That'll wreck a diet... except for a cookie diet.... <G>

    ttyl neb

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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Tue May 5 23:39:08 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 28-Apr-2020 10:19 <=-

    Was bright and sunny and hit 80 here at the house -- went outside and
    did some more cleanup in the afternoon. A little after 7 p.m. things
    start to get interesting: warning sirens go off. My window up here
    faces South: nothing unusual. Check wUnderground: big colourful
    diagonal band to the northwest about the Cedar Rapids area, 90 miles
    from here. Hmmm!
    Sounds rather ominous... ;) And a good reason for the sirens...
    Yes: they only go off if something serious in the area. Well, once a
    false alarm when a trigger malfunction occurred.
    Still, pretty good idea not to just ignore... ;)
    Right. 99.9% of the time there's something going on which needs to be monitored.

    Yup... and if it turns out to be a test or a false alarm, no harm done
    by checking things out.... :)

    We're supposed to have some 'potential for bad weather' late this afternoon. At this point for me it's just close the windows so the
    rain doesn't come in.

    Simple enough.... :) We haven't started opening windows yet... Sunday,
    maybe I should have, to let the lovely heat in.... Forecast had been for
    about 70, it went into the high 70s and stayed sunny... Temps dropped overnight, and we've been back in 40s for highs today, barely got into
    the 50s yesterday....

    About 8:15 the storm hits: winds are noticeable but not too bad, sounds
    like big raindrops, then the clunking starts: hail! Saw some which
    were pretty big: have one in the freezer which is about the size of a
    ping pong ball. Saving that one for Autumn when she's over later this
    morning.
    Was she impressed...? ;) That is a rather good-sized chunk of ice...
    She admired it but said they had some bigger ones. What she did want
    to do was rinse our hailstone off and eat it. Showed her the dirt and
    said there was dirt inside and that squashed that idea. ...I guess
    would be clean once rinsed but this hailstone had a bunch of dark
    speckles.
    Probably best not to ingest unless one was desperate for water... and
    even then would probably be best to melt and then boil it... ;) I
    wonder if she'd tried that on her parents with the hail they got, and
    was also told not a good idea... ;)
    Probably - I'm not recalling. LIS she did want to eat the hail piece
    we kept in the freezer to show but was easily dissuaded, so either was another "no, don't eat the hail" agreeing with the no from home or
    just being shown the dirt was enough.

    Could be... :)

    Too early to go out to check for any damage; doesn't look like
    anything happened to the cars (no garage) when checked from looking
    out the windows. Also want to check for any damage to the roof and
    if any windows cracked. Hopefully not!
    I seem to remember a message later that indicated that your car did
    get some damage... did you have any other damage...?
    Just some cracks and chips on the vinyl siding and a couple of rips in
    the slider's screen.
    Not too bad, then, considering the hailstorm itself....
    Still have to do something about the screen replacement and chips in
    the siding......

    Tape the rips for now, just in case there's another hailstorm in your future....? ;) How bad is the siding damaged...? Will it need
    replacing, or are there ways to just mend the chips and cracks...?

    Costs and the concept of 'afford/not afford' never really occurred to
    me back then, just sort of an "it costs money" idea and wasting was not
    good. "Gimme-gimme-gimme" was definitely not allowed, though if I
    wanted something and there was a valid reason plus I had earned it one
    way or another (chores, being good, behaving and the like) I'd get it,
    though I also remember rarely asking for anything.
    Similar for me... as the oldest of 8 kids, I did have a concept of
    things costing money, and of spending wisely and carefully.... but
    didn't pay a lot of mind to exact costs... and knew better than to ask
    for anything not a true need... which also meant I didn't ask much...
    I'm an "only brat" (sort of a joke on being the opposite of brattish); just not my way to whine about wanting something (well, I'm quite sure
    my Mother could come up with a few examples!). Christmas and
    birthdays I'm a pain: "What do you want for <event>?" "Ah dunno..." "(Just like all the other askings.)"

    Richard used to always tell my family to get him socks... and of course
    was usually ignored... My youngest sister finally did... :) He was glad
    to get something useful... ;)

    As I recall, it was rather pricey, too... Maybe a forerunner of today's
    sports drinks... ;)
    It probably was! ...We need to get our memories going and update the
    Wikipedia article: it says Tiger's Milk is a nutrition bar from the
    1960's, I'm remembering it or something in a rectangular box (like
    cereal comes in) -- a powder added to milk. not really recalling water,
    and I think occasionally orange juice but that made it taste 'off' and
    gave a gritty texture.
    It probably was originally the powder, and I wouldn't doubt they might
    have then come out with a nutrition bar to make it more convenient...
    Seems a logical evolution. The powder in milk (or any liquid) isn't
    as convenient as being able to carry around a nutrition or now energy
    bar.

    Kinda what I figured, too.... :)

    Shaklee (supplements) had a soy-based (IIRC) protein powder supplement
    that I used for a while but then decided I disliked it more than
    getting any benefit from it....
    I've forgotten about Shaklee! ...If something doesn't taste all
    that good and the reason for taking it is semi-casual I'd stop taking
    it also. (And just to cover my rump, just because one person doesn't
    like the taste doesn't mean someone else won't.)

    I had a doctor back then that suggested I take various Shaklee things...
    after he retired, and I reassessed things, a lot of it seemed not to be
    being all that helpful.... In the meantime, I'd become a dealer, just to
    get a discount on what I was using... ;) That didn't last all that long
    after I decided I didn't need the stuff after all... :)

    Not too much flavour from plain shredded wheat! Though I have munched
    on the dry "little bales of hay" as I get kidded about and there is a
    different taste when milk added. Never got in to the sweet cereals -
    I don't like the coated shredded wheat. OTOH Corn Flakes taste bland
    plus become a soggy mass so not really a fan of those either. OMG: I
    _am_ a picky eater!!!
    I grew up with plain shredded wheat, corn flakes, Cheerios, once in a
    while raisin bran and the Chex cereals... nothing sugared... oh, and
    wheat puffs and rice puffs... and various hot cereals like oatmeal and
    Wheatena... I don't usually do breakfast anymore... for a while was
    using cold cereal to munch on out of the box, but don't now... once
    in a while still have oatmeal, with raisins cooked into it and various
    toppings.... most a holdover from childhood... ;)
    IIRC you also get up later which would tend to lessen the need for a breakfast to tide over until lunch. Or some people just aren't into a breakfast and don't need it.

    A little of each in my case now...

    As for the 'besides cereals' some of them
    tasted like wallpaper paste to me: just bland no matter the topping or mix-ins. Oatmeal I like, preferably the flavoured kind, but not so
    much the instant Cream and Berries type: too sweet.

    Those puffs cereals, I never did care for... but in thinking back on
    what we had, I did get the mental picture of the big bags of those Daddy
    used to get... ;) Never have done the instant oatmeals... I can cook up
    even the old-fashioned in just a few minutes in the microwave, no
    waiting for hot water... :)

    Rare times go out for breakfast I do go a little wild (and usually
    little to no lunch).

    Most of my breakfasts are involved with traveling of some sort... if I'm staying at a Bed & Breakfast, I'm paying for breakfast so will have, and enjoy.... or if a hotel has free breakfast as a perk... and yes, it can
    take the place of lunch... :)

    She did look rather funny with earmuffs on! And she did try to keep
    the cotton in her ears with the earmuffs holding -- maybe helped a
    little which she knew but just couldn't stand it any more --
    shake-shake-shake!
    Can't blame her much... :)
    No. can't. Probably between a lot more sensitive hearing, not understanding the fireworks noise, possibly even the compressions on
    her body as the sound waves struck....

    Poor baby... ;)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Wed May 6 10:09:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    Was bright and sunny and hit 80 here at the house -- went outside and
    did some more cleanup in the afternoon. A little after 7 p.m. things
    start to get interesting: warning sirens go off. My window up here
    faces South: nothing unusual. Check wUnderground: big colourful
    diagonal band to the northwest about the Cedar Rapids area, 90 miles
    from here. Hmmm!
    Sounds rather ominous... ;) And a good reason for the sirens...
    Yes: they only go off if something serious in the area. Well, once a
    false alarm when a trigger malfunction occurred.
    Still, pretty good idea not to just ignore... ;)
    Right. 99.9% of the time there's something going on which needs to be monitored.
    Yup... and if it turns out to be a test or a false alarm, no harm
    done by checking things out.... :)

    I do check out why the sirens are going off if not obvious: normal test
    time or looking nasty outside. LIS a little while back it looked
    relatively bland from my south-facing window when the sirens went off but
    look north -- uh-oh!


    We're supposed to have some 'potential for bad weather' late this afternoon. At this point for me it's just close the windows so the
    rain doesn't come in.
    Simple enough.... :) We haven't started opening windows yet...
    Sunday, maybe I should have, to let the lovely heat in....
    Forecast had been for about 70, it went into the high 70s and
    stayed sunny... Temps dropped overnight, and we've been back in
    40s for highs today, barely got into the 50s yesterday....

    I think I mentioned in an earlier message they're predicting 31 for the
    low on the Saturday before Monther's Day (this weekend as I write); last
    Friday we put the window air conditioner in the Master Bedroom because
    it was in the 80's!



    Too early to go out to check for any damage; doesn't look like
    anything happened to the cars (no garage) when checked from looking
    out the windows. Also want to check for any damage to the roof and
    if any windows cracked. Hopefully not!
    I seem to remember a message later that indicated that your car did
    get some damage... did you have any other damage...?
    Just some cracks and chips on the vinyl siding and a couple of rips in
    the slider's screen.
    Not too bad, then, considering the hailstorm itself....
    Still have to do something about the screen replacement and chips in
    the siding......
    Tape the rips for now, just in case there's another hailstorm in
    your future....? ;) How bad is the siding damaged...? Will it
    need replacing, or are there ways to just mend the chips and
    cracks...?

    A rip has been temporarily taped up in a window we open for fresh air.
    The ones in the slider have been left alone for now. Will have the
    screens repaired later; insurance adjuster comking this afternoon.
    Siding -- my original thinking was to hire someone to patch -- something
    like the repair they used to do for furniture. Guess could be done --
    never saw but that doesn't mean anything. Again the insurance adjustor
    will be making recommendations on that.


    Costs and the concept of 'afford/not afford' never really occurred to
    me back then, just sort of an "it costs money" idea and wasting was not
    good. "Gimme-gimme-gimme" was definitely not allowed, though if I
    wanted something and there was a valid reason plus I had earned it one
    way or another (chores, being good, behaving and the like) I'd get it,
    though I also remember rarely asking for anything.
    Similar for me... as the oldest of 8 kids, I did have a concept of
    things costing money, and of spending wisely and carefully.... but
    didn't pay a lot of mind to exact costs... and knew better than to ask
    for anything not a true need... which also meant I didn't ask much...
    I'm an "only brat" (sort of a joke on being the opposite of brattish); just not my way to whine about wanting something (well, I'm quite sure
    my Mother could come up with a few examples!). Christmas and
    birthdays I'm a pain: "What do you want for <event>?" "Ah dunno..." "(Just like all the other askings.)"
    Richard used to always tell my family to get him socks... and of
    course was usually ignored... My youngest sister finally did...
    :) He was glad to get something useful... ;)

    <chuckle!> I don't mind "non-useful" items -- smallish yard decorations
    are nice; indoor items also, just running out of room.



    Shaklee (supplements) had a soy-based (IIRC) protein powder supplement
    that I used for a while but then decided I disliked it more than
    getting any benefit from it....
    I've forgotten about Shaklee! ...If something doesn't taste all
    that good and the reason for taking it is semi-casual I'd stop taking
    it also. (And just to cover my rump, just because one person doesn't
    like the taste doesn't mean someone else won't.)
    I had a doctor back then that suggested I take various Shaklee
    things... after he retired, and I reassessed things, a lot of it
    seemed not to be being all that helpful.... In the meantime, I'd
    become a dealer, just to get a discount on what I was using... ;)
    That didn't last all that long after I decided I didn't need the
    stuff after all... :)

    No; being a dealer made sense to obtain the discount but if not using
    the supplement not that much of a need to sell and so probably loss of interest.


    Not too much flavour from plain shredded wheat! Though I have munched
    on the dry "little bales of hay" as I get kidded about and there is a
    different taste when milk added. Never got in to the sweet cereals -
    I don't like the coated shredded wheat. OTOH Corn Flakes taste bland
    plus become a soggy mass so not really a fan of those either. OMG: I
    _am_ a picky eater!!!
    I grew up with plain shredded wheat, corn flakes, Cheerios, once in a
    while raisin bran and the Chex cereals... nothing sugared... oh, and
    wheat puffs and rice puffs... and various hot cereals like oatmeal and
    Wheatena... I don't usually do breakfast anymore... for a while was
    using cold cereal to munch on out of the box, but don't now... once
    in a while still have oatmeal, with raisins cooked into it and various
    toppings.... most a holdover from childhood... ;)
    IIRC you also get up later which would tend to lessen the need for a breakfast to tide over until lunch. Or some people just aren't into a breakfast and don't need it.
    A little of each in my case now...

    When I worked from 5 p.m. to 3 a.m. lunch was my breakfast -- I'm
    sleeping at 7 a.m.!


    As for the 'besides cereals' some of them
    tasted like wallpaper paste to me: just bland no matter the topping or mix-ins. Oatmeal I like, preferably the flavoured kind, but not so
    much the instant Cream and Berries type: too sweet.
    Those puffs cereals, I never did care for... but in thinking back
    on what we had, I did get the mental picture of the big bags of
    those Daddy used to get... ;) Never have done the instant
    oatmeals... I can cook up even the old-fashioned in just a few
    minutes in the microwave, no waiting for hot water... :)

    The puff cereals were 'okayyy': IIRC generally too sweet. There may
    have been a couple not too bad: OK for the occasional breakfast.
    Winter/cold weather I like the warmth of oatmeal. Having instant might
    be more of a habit plus has flavour options, which I tone down with a
    'pour' of the non-flavoured, plus expands the ampount as that's all I'm eating.


    Rare times go out for breakfast I do go a little wild (and usually
    little to no lunch).
    Most of my breakfasts are involved with traveling of some sort...
    if I'm staying at a Bed & Breakfast, I'm paying for breakfast so
    will have, and enjoy.... or if a hotel has free breakfast as a
    perk... and yes, it can take the place of lunch... :)

    True: if part of the accomodation would make sense to have. Sometimes
    have breakfast meetings at the store and the quick/cheap pasteries they
    usually had were a treat for me. At the hotel in Vienna they had a
    nicely assorted offering of which I'd rotate: emphasis on the cereals
    one day, another day the bacon/sausage/eggs, another day a different
    emphasis. Of course I was there for three weeks; a couple of days I
    might have had a little of each instead!


    She did look rather funny with earmuffs on! And she did try to keep
    the cotton in her ears with the earmuffs holding -- maybe helped a
    little which she knew but just couldn't stand it any more --
    shake-shake-shake!
    Can't blame her much... :)
    No. can't. Probably between a lot more sensitive hearing, not understanding the fireworks noise, possibly even the compressions on
    her body as the sound waves struck....
    Poor baby... ;)

    Uh-huh! She knew we weren't causing the Nasty Noise and snuggled up to
    us and hoped we could do something to make it better.



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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Wed May 13 19:29:50 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 06-May-2020 10:09 <=-

    A little after 7 p.m. things start to get interesting: warning sirens
    go off. My window up here faces South: nothing unusual. Check
    wUnderground: big colourful diagonal band to the northwest about the
    Cedar Rapids area, 90 miles from here. Hmmm!
    Sounds rather ominous... ;) And a good reason for the sirens...
    Yes: they only go off if something serious in the area. Well, once a
    false alarm when a trigger malfunction occurred.
    Still, pretty good idea not to just ignore... ;)
    Right. 99.9% of the time there's something going on which needs to be monitored.
    Yup... and if it turns out to be a test or a false alarm, no harm
    done by checking things out.... :)
    I do check out why the sirens are going off if not obvious: normal
    test time or looking nasty outside.

    I suppose that even if it is normal test time, one might want to check,
    just in case... :) Or would a real alarm go on for longer, to get your attention....?

    LIS a little while back it looked relatively bland from my south-
    facing window when the sirens went off but look north -- uh-oh!

    And as you said above... wUnderground "told" you to look north... <G>

    We're supposed to have some 'potential for bad weather' late this
    afternoon. At this point for me it's just close the windows so the
    rain doesn't come in.
    Simple enough.... :) We haven't started opening windows yet...
    Sunday, maybe I should have, to let the lovely heat in.... Forecast
    had been for about 70, it went into the high 70s and stayed sunny...
    Temps dropped overnight, and we've been back in 40s for highs today,
    barely got into the 50s yesterday....
    I think I mentioned in an earlier message they're predicting 31 for
    the low on the Saturday before Mother's Day (this weekend as I write); last Friday we put the window air conditioner in the Master Bedroom because it was in the 80's!

    Just when we think that we're on track for warming weather, it drops
    back to cooler, sometimes even wintry weather... that said... starting tomorrow, highs are supposed to be back in the 60's, so seasonable...
    and look to be staying there for the week-out forecast.. about time.. ;)

    I seem to remember a message later that indicated that your car did
    get some damage... did you have any other damage...?
    Just some cracks and chips on the vinyl siding and a couple of rips in
    the slider's screen.
    Not too bad, then, considering the hailstorm itself....
    Still have to do something about the screen replacement and chips in
    the siding......
    Tape the rips for now, just in case there's another hailstorm in your
    future....? ;) How bad is the siding damaged...? Will it need
    replacing, or are there ways to just mend the chips and cracks...?
    A rip has been temporarily taped up in a window we open for fresh air.
    The ones in the slider have been left alone for now. Will have the screens repaired later; insurance adjuster coming this afternoon.
    Siding -- my original thinking was to hire someone to patch --
    something like the repair they used to do for furniture. Guess could
    be done -- never saw but that doesn't mean anything. Again the
    insurance adjustor will be making recommendations on that.

    That's starting to sound more serious... ;)

    I'm an "only brat" (sort of a joke on being the opposite of brattish);
    just not my way to whine about wanting something (well, I'm quite sure
    my Mother could come up with a few examples!). Christmas and
    birthdays I'm a pain: "What do you want for <event>?" "Ah dunno..."
    "(Just like all the other askings.)"
    Richard used to always tell my family to get him socks... and of
    course was usually ignored... My youngest sister finally did... :)
    He was glad to get something useful... ;)
    <chuckle!> I don't mind "non-useful" items -- smallish yard
    decorations are nice; indoor items also, just running out of room.

    It's that running out of room sort of thing that makes it harder to
    think of things one really would like... :)

    Shaklee (supplements) had a soy-based (IIRC) protein powder supplement
    that I used for a while but then decided I disliked it more than
    getting any benefit from it....
    I've forgotten about Shaklee! ...If something doesn't taste all
    that good and the reason for taking it is semi-casual I'd stop taking
    it also. (And just to cover my rump, just because one person doesn't
    like the taste doesn't mean someone else won't.)
    I had a doctor back then that suggested I take various Shaklee
    things... after he retired, and I reassessed things, a lot of it
    seemed not to be being all that helpful.... In the meantime, I'd
    become a dealer, just to get a discount on what I was using... ;)
    That didn't last all that long after I decided I didn't need the
    stuff after all... :)
    No; being a dealer made sense to obtain the discount but if not using
    the supplement not that much of a need to sell and so probably loss of interest.

    I wasn't really selling much anyway.... a couple of friends knew I was
    selling it, and once in a while they'd want something... I certainly
    wasn't making any money off it... :)

    IIRC you also get up later which would tend to lessen the need for a
    breakfast to tide over until lunch. Or some people just aren't into a
    breakfast and don't need it.
    A little of each in my case now...
    When I worked from 5 p.m. to 3 a.m. lunch was my breakfast -- I'm
    sleeping at 7 a.m.!

    That would do it, too... :)

    As for the 'besides cereals' some of them
    tasted like wallpaper paste to me: just bland no matter the topping or
    mix-ins. Oatmeal I like, preferably the flavoured kind, but not so
    much the instant Cream and Berries type: too sweet.
    Those puffs cereals, I never did care for... but in thinking back on
    what we had, I did get the mental picture of the big bags of those
    Daddy used to get... ;) Never have done the instant oatmeals... I
    can cook up even the old-fashioned in just a few minutes in the
    microwave, no waiting for hot water... :)
    The puff cereals were 'okayyy': IIRC generally too sweet. There may
    have been a couple not too bad: OK for the occasional breakfast.

    What we had were the non-sweetened type... just puffed wheat or rice or whatever, no sweetening at all... add your own at the table....

    Winter/cold weather I like the warmth of oatmeal. Having instant
    might be more of a habit plus has flavour options, which I tone down
    with a 'pour' of the non-flavoured, plus expands the amount as that's
    all I'm eating.

    Never cared for the flavour options... just as soon just add real stuff,
    like raisins, cinnamon, butter, brown sugar.... and since it isn't pre-packaged, I can choose how much I want from the get-go... ;)

    Rare times go out for breakfast I do go a little wild (and usually
    little to no lunch).
    Most of my breakfasts are involved with traveling of some sort... if
    I'm staying at a Bed & Breakfast, I'm paying for breakfast so will
    have, and enjoy.... or if a hotel has free breakfast as a perk... and
    yes, it can take the place of lunch... :)
    True: if part of the accomodation would make sense to have. Sometimes have breakfast meetings at the store and the quick/cheap pasteries
    they usually had were a treat for me. At the hotel in Vienna they had
    a nicely assorted offering of which I'd rotate: emphasis on the cereals one day, another day the bacon/sausage/eggs, another day a different emphasis. Of course I was there for three weeks; a couple of days I
    might have had a little of each instead!

    Makes sense to rotate when one is going to be there for a while... was
    it always the exact same spread each day, or was there any variation
    from day to day....?

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Thu May 14 12:34:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    A little after 7 p.m. things start to get interesting: warning sirens
    go off. My window up here faces South: nothing unusual. Check
    wUnderground: big colourful diagonal band to the northwest about the
    Cedar Rapids area, 90 miles from here. Hmmm!
    Sounds rather ominous... ;) And a good reason for the sirens...
    Yes: they only go off if something serious in the area. Well, once a
    false alarm when a trigger malfunction occurred.
    Still, pretty good idea not to just ignore... ;)
    Right. 99.9% of the time there's something going on which needs to be monitored.
    Yup... and if it turns out to be a test or a false alarm, no harm
    done by checking things out.... :)
    I do check out why the sirens are going off if not obvious: normal
    test time or looking nasty outside.
    I suppose that even if it is normal test time, one might want to
    check, just in case... :) Or would a real alarm go on for
    longer, to get your attention....?

    <chuckle> You know, I'm not sure! It seems like the test siren goes on forever; I'm sure probably the same period as the actual warning, just
    seems that way. As far as checking when the test is being done, I sort
    of do that -- probably barely qualifies as checking but I do look out
    the windows as I wander for coffee/water refills and so have an idea of
    what the weather conditions are. Normally decent, but if it happened to
    be semi-threatening outside and the siren goes off I'd check even though
    pretty sure was just due to the testing.



    LIS a little while back it looked relatively bland from my south-
    facing window when the sirens went off but look north -- uh-oh!
    And as you said above... wUnderground "told" you to look north... <G>

    So the Internet is good! <g>



    We're supposed to have some 'potential for bad weather' late this
    afternoon. At this point for me it's just close the windows so the
    rain doesn't come in.
    Simple enough.... :) We haven't started opening windows yet...
    Sunday, maybe I should have, to let the lovely heat in.... Forecast
    had been for about 70, it went into the high 70s and stayed sunny...
    Temps dropped overnight, and we've been back in 40s for highs today,
    barely got into the 50s yesterday....
    I think I mentioned in an earlier message they're predicting 31 for
    the low on the Saturday before Mother's Day (this weekend as I write); last Friday we put the window air conditioner in the Master Bedroom because it was in the 80's!
    Just when we think that we're on track for warming weather, it
    drops back to cooler, sometimes even wintry weather... that
    said... starting tomorrow, highs are supposed to be back in the
    60's, so seasonable... and look to be staying there for the
    week-out forecast.. about time.. ;)

    Yup; we tend to get some wildly swinging temperatures in the Spring --
    in the 70's/80's one week and snow the next. Usually not that extreme
    but not unusual. BTW we only used the air conditioner that night and
    the next night -- so far!


    I seem to remember a message later that indicated that your car did
    get some damage... did you have any other damage...?
    Just some cracks and chips on the vinyl siding and a couple of rips in
    the slider's screen.
    Not too bad, then, considering the hailstorm itself....
    Still have to do something about the screen replacement and chips in
    the siding......
    Tape the rips for now, just in case there's another hailstorm in your
    future....? ;) How bad is the siding damaged...? Will it need
    replacing, or are there ways to just mend the chips and cracks...?
    A rip has been temporarily taped up in a window we open for fresh air.
    The ones in the slider have been left alone for now. Will have the screens repaired later; insurance adjuster coming this afternoon.
    Siding -- my original thinking was to hire someone to patch --
    something like the repair they used to do for furniture. Guess could
    be done -- never saw but that doesn't mean anything. Again the
    insurance adjustor will be making recommendations on that.
    That's starting to sound more serious... ;)

    Got the claim back and combination of covering more and less than
    expected. The inspector said a possibility of near-full replacement
    cost, we had thought maybe 20% because of the age -- getting about half.
    Also replacing some dented and cracked vents up there. Metal awnings
    over the front and side doors will be replaced, as dented window trim
    and of course the ripped screens. I'm not sure how the vinyl siding was
    goignt o be handled -- there's a meeting coming up so will verify then.
    I also want to ask about having all the screens rescreened while the contractor is here -- we pay for that, of course. Just easier as
    someone already here doing part of the work.


    I'm an "only brat" (sort of a joke on being the opposite of brattish);
    just not my way to whine about wanting something (well, I'm quite sure
    my Mother could come up with a few examples!). Christmas and
    birthdays I'm a pain: "What do you want for <event>?" "Ah dunno..."
    "(Just like all the other askings.)"
    Richard used to always tell my family to get him socks... and of
    course was usually ignored... My youngest sister finally did... :)
    He was glad to get something useful... ;)
    <chuckle!> I don't mind "non-useful" items -- smallish yard
    decorations are nice; indoor items also, just running out of room.
    It's that running out of room sort of thing that makes it harder
    to think of things one really would like... :)

    That, plus for me it's the I don't really need anything and when I do
    it's relatively expensive as far as gift amounts go -- "hey! wanna chip
    in on the house repairs?" - yeah, right!



    Shaklee (supplements) had a soy-based (IIRC) protein powder supplement
    that I used for a while but then decided I disliked it more than
    getting any benefit from it....
    I've forgotten about Shaklee! ...If something doesn't taste all
    that good and the reason for taking it is semi-casual I'd stop taking
    it also. (And just to cover my rump, just because one person doesn't
    like the taste doesn't mean someone else won't.)
    I had a doctor back then that suggested I take various Shaklee
    things... after he retired, and I reassessed things, a lot of it
    seemed not to be being all that helpful.... In the meantime, I'd
    become a dealer, just to get a discount on what I was using... ;)
    That didn't last all that long after I decided I didn't need the
    stuff after all... :)
    No; being a dealer made sense to obtain the discount but if not using
    the supplement not that much of a need to sell and so probably loss of interest.
    I wasn't really selling much anyway.... a couple of friends knew
    I was selling it, and once in a while they'd want something... I
    certainly wasn't making any money off it... :)

    Probably the usual for that kind of marketing dealerships: sell to a few
    others to get a discount on their own purchases.



    As for the 'besides cereals' some of them
    tasted like wallpaper paste to me: just bland no matter the topping or
    mix-ins. Oatmeal I like, preferably the flavoured kind, but not so
    much the instant Cream and Berries type: too sweet.
    Those puffs cereals, I never did care for... but in thinking back on
    what we had, I did get the mental picture of the big bags of those
    Daddy used to get... ;) Never have done the instant oatmeals... I
    can cook up even the old-fashioned in just a few minutes in the
    microwave, no waiting for hot water... :)
    The puff cereals were 'okayyy': IIRC generally too sweet. There may
    have been a couple not too bad: OK for the occasional breakfast.
    What we had were the non-sweetened type... just puffed wheat or
    rice or whatever, no sweetening at all... add your own at the
    table....

    The other day I had the bite-sized shredded wheat topped with a
    bran-type cereal topped with raisins - tasted fine to me! :) To me the
    single 'bale of hay' tastes bland plus is a bit of a fight to eat.


    Winter/cold weather I like the warmth of oatmeal. Having instant
    might be more of a habit plus has flavour options, which I tone down
    with a 'pour' of the non-flavoured, plus expands the amount as that's
    all I'm eating.
    Never cared for the flavour options... just as soon just add real
    stuff, like raisins, cinnamon, butter, brown sugar.... and since
    it isn't pre-packaged, I can choose how much I want from the
    get-go... ;)

    I almost always add raisins anyway. The single packet isn't enough for
    me so I add a small 'pour' of the plain-from-canister): cuts down the sometimes too-strong default flavour while adding to what I'm eating.
    Have also occasionally added cinnamon, sometimes butter.


    Rare times go out for breakfast I do go a little wild (and usually
    little to no lunch).
    Most of my breakfasts are involved with traveling of some sort... if
    I'm staying at a Bed & Breakfast, I'm paying for breakfast so will
    have, and enjoy.... or if a hotel has free breakfast as a perk... and
    yes, it can take the place of lunch... :)
    True: if part of the accomodation would make sense to have. Sometimes have breakfast meetings at the store and the quick/cheap pasteries
    they usually had were a treat for me. At the hotel in Vienna they had
    a nicely assorted offering of which I'd rotate: emphasis on the cereals one day, another day the bacon/sausage/eggs, another day a different emphasis. Of course I was there for three weeks; a couple of days I
    might have had a little of each instead!
    Makes sense to rotate when one is going to be there for a
    while... was it always the exact same spread each day, or was
    there any variation from day to day....?

    It was mostly the same. Last years when I was there they (the hotel)
    had decreased the offerings from the previous two years but was still
    more that a sufficient choice. The hotel had been part of a mini-chain
    with two other hotels in Vienna and the other two were holding 'mine'
    back. When I arrived last year noted a lot of changes: fresh paint, new carpeting, etc. A little difficult to tell what was done in the suites themselves as each seemed to be decorated differently.

    Back to the breakfast offerings, about partway through my stay a new
    ffering was added: probably a 3- or 4-oz glass with some sort of a
    'mush' in milk or cream, topped with a layer of a darker 'mush', topped
    with three or four raspberries, blueberries, and sometimes another small
    fruit. Served cool. OK: I'll try! Yumm!! Complimented to my waitress
    (was self-serve but the refilled coffee, etc.) -- she was a little
    puzzled as apparently is a common dish in Austria/Europe and seemed
    surprised I had never had it.



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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Sat May 23 18:04:00 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 14-May-2020 12:34 <=-

    Still, pretty good idea not to just ignore... ;)
    Right. 99.9% of the time there's something going on which needs to
    be monitored.
    Yup... and if it turns out to be a test or a false alarm, no harm
    done by checking things out.... :)
    I do check out why the sirens are going off if not obvious: normal
    test time or looking nasty outside.
    I suppose that even if it is normal test time, one might want to check,
    just in case... :) Or would a real alarm go on for longer, to get
    your attention....?
    <chuckle> You know, I'm not sure! It seems like the test siren goes
    on forever; I'm sure probably the same period as the actual warning,
    just seems that way.

    "You're just testing, so get on with it" vs being occupied with figuring
    out what the real siren is warning about... <G>

    As far as checking when the test is being done, I
    sort of do that -- probably barely qualifies as checking but I do look
    out the windows as I wander for coffee/water refills and so have an
    idea of what the weather conditions are. Normally decent, but if it happened to be semi-threatening outside and the siren goes off I'd
    check even though pretty sure was just due to the testing.

    Being aware of conditions is a good habit to get into anyway... ;) And
    if one is in an area where the weather could get nasty fast, having a
    weather radio for alerts is probably another good practice... :)

    LIS a little while back it looked relatively bland from my south-
    facing window when the sirens went off but look north -- uh-oh!
    And as you said above... wUnderground "told" you to look north... <G>
    So the Internet is good! <g>

    As long as it is working... ;) telnet wUnderground was working for a
    while but got stuck again on the 17th....

    I think I mentioned in an earlier message they're predicting 31 for
    the low on the Saturday before Mother's Day (this weekend as I write);
    last Friday we put the window air conditioner in the Master Bedroom
    because it was in the 80's!
    Just when we think that we're on track for warming weather, it drops
    back to cooler, sometimes even wintry weather... that said, starting
    tomorrow, highs are supposed to be back in the 60's, so seasonable...
    and look to be staying there for the week-out forecast... about
    time... ;)
    Yup; we tend to get some wildly swinging temperatures in the Spring --
    in the 70's/80's one week and snow the next. Usually not that extreme
    but not unusual. BTW we only used the air conditioner that night and
    the next night -- so far!

    We're getting highs in the 70's now... maybe into the 80's by the
    beginning of next week, but I think it's going to be going back to the
    more seasonable low 70s again after that.... :)

    A rip has been temporarily taped up in a window we open for fresh air.
    The ones in the slider have been left alone for now. Will have the
    screens repaired later; insurance adjuster coming this afternoon.
    Siding -- my original thinking was to hire someone to patch --
    something like the repair they used to do for furniture. Guess could
    be done -- never saw but that doesn't mean anything. Again the
    insurance adjustor will be making recommendations on that.
    That's starting to sound more serious... ;)
    Got the claim back and combination of covering more and less than expected. The inspector said a possibility of near-full replacement
    cost, we had thought maybe 20% because of the age -- getting about
    half. Also replacing some dented and cracked vents up there. Metal awnings over the front and side doors will be replaced, as dented
    window trim and of course the ripped screens. I'm not sure how the
    vinyl siding was going to be handled -- there's a meeting coming up so will verify then. I also want to ask about having all the screens rescreened while the contractor is here -- we pay for that, of course. Just easier as someone already here doing part of the work.

    Was all that damage just from the hailstorm....? Or is some of it being wrapped into this claim from earlier damages....? I suppose the
    contractor can also let you know if your screens really are ready for replacement all around...

    Christmas and birthdays I'm a pain: "What do you want for <event>?"
    "Ah dunno..." "(Just like all the other askings.)"
    Richard used to always tell my family to get him socks... and of
    course was usually ignored... My youngest sister finally did... :)
    He was glad to get something useful... ;)
    <chuckle!> I don't mind "non-useful" items -- smallish yard
    decorations are nice; indoor items also, just running out of room.
    It's that running out of room sort of thing that makes it harder
    to think of things one really would like... :)
    That, plus for me it's the I don't really need anything and when I do
    it's relatively expensive as far as gift amounts go -- "hey! wanna
    chip in on the house repairs?" - yeah, right!

    Yeah, there's that, too... ;)

    I had a doctor back then that suggested I take various Shaklee
    things... after he retired, and I reassessed things, a lot of it
    seemed not to be being all that helpful.... In the meantime, I'd
    become a dealer, just to get a discount on what I was using... ;)
    That didn't last all that long after I decided I didn't need the
    stuff after all... :)
    No; being a dealer made sense to obtain the discount but if not using
    the supplement not that much of a need to sell and so probably loss of
    interest.
    I wasn't really selling much anyway.... a couple of friends knew I
    was selling it, and once in a while they'd want something... I
    certainly wasn't making any money off it... :)
    Probably the usual for that kind of marketing dealerships: sell to a
    few others to get a discount on their own purchases.

    Once in a while you'll get a dealer that really is into selling stuff
    and actually makes some sort of a living at it... but that certainly
    isn't me... ;)

    Those puffs cereals, I never did care for... but in thinking back on
    what we had, I did get the mental picture of the big bags of those
    Daddy used to get... ;) Never have done the instant oatmeals... I
    can cook up even the old-fashioned in just a few minutes in the
    microwave, no waiting for hot water... :)
    The puff cereals were 'okayyy': IIRC generally too sweet. There may
    have been a couple not too bad: OK for the occasional breakfast.
    What we had were the non-sweetened type... just puffed wheat or rice
    or whatever, no sweetening at all... add your own at the table....
    The other day I had the bite-sized shredded wheat topped with a
    bran-type cereal topped with raisins - tasted fine to me! :) To me
    the single 'bale of hay' tastes bland plus is a bit of a fight to eat.

    The raisins would definitely help.... :)

    Most of my breakfasts are involved with traveling of some sort... if
    I'm staying at a Bed & Breakfast, I'm paying for breakfast so will
    have, and enjoy.... or if a hotel has free breakfast as a perk... and
    yes, it can take the place of lunch... :)
    True: if part of the accomodation would make sense to have. Sometimes
    have breakfast meetings at the store and the quick/cheap pasteries
    they usually had were a treat for me. At the hotel in Vienna they had
    a nicely assorted offering of which I'd rotate: emphasis on the cereals
    one day, another day the bacon/sausage/eggs, another day a different
    emphasis. Of course I was there for three weeks; a couple of days I
    might have had a little of each instead!
    Makes sense to rotate when one is going to be there for a while... was
    it always the exact same spread each day, or was there any variation
    from day to day....?
    It was mostly the same. Last year when I was there they (the hotel)
    had decreased the offerings from the previous two years but was still
    more than a sufficient choice. The hotel had been part of a
    mini-chain with two other hotels in Vienna and the other two were
    holding 'mine' back. When I arrived last year noted a lot of changes: fresh paint, new carpeting, etc. A little difficult to tell what was
    done in the suites themselves as each seemed to be decorated
    differently.

    Might have been that just the public areas needed the facelift... :)

    Back to the breakfast offerings, about partway through my stay a new offering was added: probably a 3- or 4-oz glass with some sort of a
    'mush' in milk or cream, topped with a layer of a darker 'mush',
    topped with three or four raspberries, blueberries, and sometimes
    another small fruit. Served cool. OK: I'll try! Yumm!! Complimented
    to my waitress (was self-serve but the refilled coffee, etc.) -- she
    was a little puzzled as apparently is a common dish in Austria/Europe
    and seemed surprised I had never had it.

    Sounds like a breakfast parfait, using mush instead of pudding... I saw something similar in March at the hotel my brother was staying at here
    when I met him for breakfast there... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Thu Jun 4 17:57:04 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 24-May-2020 08:56 <=-

    I suppose that even if it is normal test time, one might want to check,
    just in case... :) Or would a real alarm go on for longer, to get
    your attention....?
    <chuckle> You know, I'm not sure! It seems like the test siren goes
    on forever; I'm sure probably the same period as the actual warning,
    just seems that way.
    "You're just testing, so get on with it" vs being occupied with
    figuring out what the real siren is warning about... <G>
    Depending on the weather, wind, etc. the sirens (test mode or actual)
    can be very loud. They slowly rotate, so naturally louder and softer depending on which way pointed, but if the breeze right can carry the sounds effectively making them louder. Seems humidity can affect
    also. Sometimes all combined can make the siren sound like it's a block away!

    Well, they are designed to get your attention... ;) How far are they
    actually from you...?

    They did go off yesterday afternoon: tornado spotted southeast of
    here. Autumn was here and we were playing when the 'all-clear' siren sounded; she was concerned and confused as with the first one the skies were darkening, wind and rain, plus one or the other were looking at
    the TV; this one no real reaction/concern. So I did explain the sirens will go off to warn of possible bad weather and then also to tell us
    when it's gone/done. Back to playing.

    And now she'll know for when the next time comes... ;) Good that the
    tornado didn't come too close to you after all, too.... :)

    As far as checking when the test is being done, I
    sort of do that -- probably barely qualifies as checking but I do look
    out the windows as I wander for coffee/water refills and so have an
    idea of what the weather conditions are. Normally decent, but if it
    happened to be semi-threatening outside and the siren goes off I'd
    check even though pretty sure was just due to the testing.
    Being aware of conditions is a good habit to get into anyway... ;) And
    if one is in an area where the weather could get nasty fast, having a
    weather radio for alerts is probably another good practice... :)
    I'd probably would get a weather radio if I didn't live in the city; sirens, alarms from the cell phone.... The TV stations are also very
    good about sticking radar maps in the bottom corner of the screen, information crawls, breaking in when necessary.

    No sirens here, I don't get alarms on my cellphone... and of course I'm
    not watching the TV... ;) But the NWS does break in to my radio program
    if there is some weather threat in the region...

    LIS a little while back it looked relatively bland from my south-
    facing window when the sirens went off but look north -- uh-oh!
    And as you said above... wUnderground "told" you to look north... <G>
    So the Internet is good! <g>
    As long as it is working... ;) telnet wUnderground was working for a
    while but got stuck again on the 17th....
    I just checked and not working properly: didn't even give the 2-letter state codes (was going to double-check the three-letter code it
    wanted).

    When I checked this morning it was still stuck on May 17th... I check
    regularly just in case something knocks it unstuck... ;)

    I've been primarily using ansiweather for current temperature
    and 'finger <site>@graph.no' for the day's forecast.

    Lately, at least for here, norway seems to not be all that accurate
    temperature wise... whether I look at it in F or in C degrees...
    Richard got me going to weather.gov which is similar to wUnderground
    (since it gets info from there anyway when it's working)... that gives
    fairly current temperature, as well as a week's out forecast... :)

    Yup; we tend to get some wildly swinging temperatures in the Spring --
    in the 70's/80's one week and snow the next. Usually not that extreme
    but not unusual. BTW we only used the air conditioner that night and
    the next night -- so far!
    We're getting highs in the 70's now... maybe into the 80's by the
    beginning of next week, but I think it's going to be going back to the
    more seasonable low 70s again after that.... :)
    Put the a/c in here (the Computer Room) after Autumn went home
    yesterday. Sort of didn't want to as blocks the view, hard to open
    the window (from the top!), whine-whimper -- supposed to be in the
    upper 80's today so will be put an end to the whinnnnnning. Tested the central a/c -- seems to be fine.

    Better to have it when needed... we only have fans, which just went back
    into service today with the temps back in the 80s again...

    A rip has been temporarily taped up in a window we open for fresh air.
    The ones in the slider have been left alone for now. Will have the
    screens repaired later; insurance adjuster coming this afternoon.
    Siding -- my original thinking was to hire someone to patch --
    something like the repair they used to do for furniture. Guess could
    be done -- never saw but that doesn't mean anything. Again the
    insurance adjustor will be making recommendations on that.
    That's starting to sound more serious... ;)
    Got the claim back and combination of covering more and less than
    expected. The inspector said a possibility of near-full replacement
    cost, we had thought maybe 20% because of the age -- getting about
    half. Also replacing some dented and cracked vents up there. Metal
    awnings over the front and side doors will be replaced, as dented
    window trim and of course the ripped screens. I'm not sure how the
    vinyl siding was going to be handled -- there's a meeting coming up so
    will verify then. I also want to ask about having all the screens
    rescreened while the contractor is here -- we pay for that, of course.
    Just easier as someone already here doing part of the work.
    Was all that damage just from the hailstorm....? Or is some of it
    being wrapped into this claim from earlier damages....? I suppose the
    contractor can also let you know if your screens really are ready for
    replacement all around...
    AFAIK all the damage from the hailstorm. We never did see the damage
    to the roof from the ground but very obvious from the copy of the
    pictures the inspector took. Of course helps he has chalk marks
    circling the impact dents but still obvious.

    That would make things more obvious.... ;) Both the better vantage
    point and the chalk marks... :)

    As for the screens, during the meeting it was advised not to do the
    add-on of the screens (the ones not ripped and therefore not covered)
    as would cost about double of what we would pay doing ourselves.

    Ah, so you might as well do that part yourself... :) Are you going to
    have the same contractor do your back deck/porch while there...?

    That, plus for me it's the I don't really need anything and when I do
    it's relatively expensive as far as gift amounts go -- "hey! wanna
    chip in on the house repairs?" - yeah, right!
    Yeah, there's that, too... ;)
    "All I want for Christmas is my two front screens!" <gg>

    Cute. ;)

    I wasn't really selling much anyway.... a couple of friends knew I
    was selling it, and once in a while they'd want something... I
    certainly wasn't making any money off it... :)
    Probably the usual for that kind of marketing dealerships: sell to a
    few others to get a discount on their own purchases.
    Once in a while you'll get a dealer that really is into selling stuff
    and actually makes some sort of a living at it... but that certainly
    isn't me... ;)
    Nor I. Al - the one I mentioned in an earlier message and fixed his telephone wiring -- I guess made his living off of selling whatever he sold -- "Grace-Lee" comes to mind and a quick Googling states they
    sell industrial cleaners so that could explain why no inventory and he seemed to be home most of the time ==> could do a lot via phone calls. Everyone knew Al, his apartment was at the last at dead-end of hallway with one other apartment so no reason to walk by....

    Probably close to an exclusive franchise, and a product that was in
    demand with at least some people... ;)

    The other day I had the bite-sized shredded wheat topped with a
    bran-type cereal topped with raisins - tasted fine to me! :) To me
    the single 'bale of hay' tastes bland plus is a bit of a fight to eat.
    The raisins would definitely help.... :)
    I used to eat raisins as a snack; past several years no, though still
    put a ton in my oatmeal or top the cereal -- "you want cereal with
    your raisins?" could work!

    I still eat them as a snack on occasion... we keep them in the house for
    that and for cooking with... ;)

    Back to the breakfast offerings, about partway through my stay a new
    offering was added: probably a 3- or 4-oz glass with some sort of a
    'mush' in milk or cream, topped with a layer of a darker 'mush',
    topped with three or four raspberries, blueberries, and sometimes
    another small fruit. Served cool. OK: I'll try! Yumm!! Complimented
    to my waitress (was self-serve but the refilled coffee, etc.) -- she
    was a little puzzled as apparently is a common dish in Austria/Europe
    and seemed surprised I had never had it.
    Sounds like a breakfast parfait, using mush instead of pudding... I saw
    something similar in March at the hotel my brother was staying at here
    when I met him for breakfast there... :)
    Yes, 'breakfast parfait' will work. "Mush" to me has sort of an oatmeal-soggy cereal blended together connotation but probably close.

    You were the one that described it as such (see above)... ;)

    I think they used cereal offering -- something approaching a trail mix. Did see at the cereals section and I used as a topping for yogurt.

    Sounds similar... ;)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to Nancy Backus on Sun May 31 19:26:00 2020
    Nancy,

    Hmmm.... that's odd... Only happens with GatorNet...?

    It's happened with the other ones. Hopefully, on the new home for
    the BBS, I can work it out, or I'll ask the hub just to send
    uncompressed packets.

    Yep...10 boxes..and scarfed a whole one in a day.

    That'll wreck a diet... except for a cookie diet.... <G>

    DIET is a 4 letter excuse to cheat...or an acronym for
    "DID I EAT THAT??" <G>

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to Barry Martin on Sun May 31 19:46:00 2020
    Barry,

    I like munching on crushed ice, but not like that!!

    Yumm: chunky!! ...Just note one of the signs of anemia can be the excessive desire to eat ice. No idea why. Also would guess with all
    the tests you've had they'd catch anemia by now.

    Not sure if my dentures would hold up to doing the crunching of ice,
    but it's rare to find a place that serves drinks with that now.

    Friday morning currently as I write this: raining on and off; no nasty weather forecast.

    Chances of thunderstorms this week, just before and during the surgery,
    then maybe the remnants of a tropical system early next week.

    Gives you your flavoured water plus nutrients!

    Especially electrolytes.

    He also loves carrots and green beans.

    Those too, preferably not mushy overcooked.

    I don't want them too soft, but want them where I don't risk breaking
    my teeth.

    Daryl

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Mon Jun 8 09:03:00 2020

    Hi Daryl!

    I like munching on crushed ice, but not like that!!
    Yumm: chunky!! ...Just note one of the signs of anemia can be the excessive desire to eat ice. No idea why. Also would guess with all
    the tests you've had they'd catch anemia by now.
    Not sure if my dentures would hold up to doing the crunching of
    ice, but it's rare to find a place that serves drinks with that
    now.

    Customers caught on the drink they ordered was 95% ice and 5% drink!



    Gives you your flavoured water plus nutrients!
    Especially electrolytes.

    You'll become charged and create a battery!


    He also loves carrots and green beans.
    Those too, preferably not mushy overcooked.
    I don't want them too soft, but want them where I don't risk
    breaking my teeth.

    I think we're back to the 'whirled peas'!


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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to Barry Martin on Wed Jun 10 10:24:00 2020
    Barry,

    Customers caught on the drink they ordered was 95% ice and 5% drink!

    That's the way they do it in movie theatres...and if you order light ice
    or no ice, they charge you more. Plus, with the popcorn, it's "would you
    like some popcorn with your salt??". :P

    You'll become charged and create a battery!

    Are you positive, or just have a negative personality?? <G>

    I think we're back to the 'whirled peas'!

    Whee!! <G> I'm NOT a fan of pea soup...I prefer vegetable beef, but these have corn in them, so I can't eat them anymore.

    ... I'll bet you $4,567 you can't guess how much I owe my bookie.

    A dollar two ninety-eight?? <G>

    Daryl

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Fri Jun 12 09:56:00 2020

    Hi Daryl!

    Customers caught on the drink they ordered was 95% ice and 5% drink!
    That's the way they do it in movie theatres...and if you order
    light ice or no ice, they charge you more. Plus, with the
    popcorn, it's "would you like some popcorn with your salt??". :P

    That way drink more of that 5% drink!


    You'll become charged and create a battery!
    Are you positive, or just have a negative personality?? <G>

    I'm got an electron loose!


    I think we're back to the 'whirled peas'!
    Whee!! <G> I'm NOT a fan of pea soup...I prefer vegetable beef,
    but these have corn in them, so I can't eat them anymore.

    Actually I like pea soup but also understand why people would not. More
    for me!! As for the vegetable soup, you'll just have to learn to make
    your own! Hardest part is probably getting the meat in small enough
    chunks -- have the butcher/guy at the meat counter slice it down.


    ... I'll bet you $4,567 you can't guess how much I owe my bookie.
    A dollar two ninety-eight?? <G>

    Ooo, you're sooo close!



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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to Barry Martin on Sun Jun 14 09:43:00 2020
    Barry,

    popcorn, it's "would you like some popcorn with your salt??". :P

    That way drink more of that 5% drink!

    That'll be $3.25 for a small Coke, please. :P

    You'll become charged and create a battery!
    Are you positive, or just have a negative personality?? <G>

    I'm got an electron loose!

    Then, you are positive. <G>

    ... I'll bet you $4,567 you can't guess how much I owe my bookie.
    A dollar two ninety-eight?? <G>

    Ooo, you're sooo close!

    Close only counts in horseshoes, hand grenades, and at the drive-inn. <G>

    Daryl

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Mon Jun 15 17:34:00 2020

    Hi Daryl!

    popcorn, it's "would you like some popcorn with your salt??". :P
    That way drink more of that 5% drink!
    That'll be $3.25 for a small Coke, please. :P

    <whimper> I never had the need to eat while watching a movie in a
    theatre; to me the two activities don't go together, though have eaten
    and drank while watching a movie at home -- maybe because can pause the
    movie while at home. (Doesn't have to be logical to be logical to me!)



    You'll become charged and create a battery!
    Are you positive, or just have a negative personality?? <G>
    I'm got an electron loose!
    Then, you are positive. <G>

    Or negative on the negativity!


    ... I'll bet you $4,567 you can't guess how much I owe my bookie.
    A dollar two ninety-eight?? <G>
    Ooo, you're sooo close!
    Close only counts in horseshoes, hand grenades, and at the
    drive-inn. <G>

    There is a drive-in in one of the adjoining towns. They were able to
    re-open and are keeping the cars parked further away from each other
    than usual (meaning in previous years). I don't think they re-opened
    their concession stand, though are allowing people to bring in food.



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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Daryl Stout on Thu Jun 11 19:35:32 2020
    Quoting Daryl Stout to Nancy Backus on 31-May-2020 19:26 <=-

    Hmmm.... that's odd... Only happens with GatorNet...?

    It's happened with the other ones. Hopefully, on the new home for
    the BBS, I can work it out, or I'll ask the hub just to send
    uncompressed packets.

    I think I read (in the later messages) that you did get it all worked
    out finally..... :)

    Yep...10 boxes..and scarfed a whole one in a day.
    That'll wreck a diet... except for a cookie diet.... <G>

    DIET is a 4 letter excuse to cheat...or an acronym for
    "DID I EAT THAT??" <G>

    Actually diet is merely what one eats, whether healthy, reducing,
    unhealthy, faddish, etc... ;) I gave up on reducing diets decades ago,
    since for me it was always counter-productive.... I just focus on eating properly, sensibly and balanced... ;)

    ttyl neb

    ... I can't really argue with that although I know someone who will.

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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Sat Jul 11 00:10:02 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 01-Jul-2020 09:05 <=-

    They are virtual high fives in any case... ;) (and more like 600+
    miles distancing, as well... [g])
    At least as the birdie flies!
    True.... probably even more following the roads... ;)
    Some of the original ones are more like the cow wanders!

    Well, enough of them were originally cow paths... ;)

    Not sure when this came up in the last week but the last few newscasts
    has announced people from Iowa would be quarantined for fourteen days
    if they were to visit New York (State) - that would blow most
    vacations! This morning's newscast said anyone coming from a state
    whose incidence rate is 10% will be quarantined; we only have 9.5%,
    which does round up. Not sure how they pull and quarantine -- go now
    and get put in a decent hotel for two weeks!

    I have no idea how they are enforcing, or plan to enforce, the
    quarantine of people coming from the various states on the list.... I've
    almost thought it's just designed as a deterrent, so those people won't
    even try to visit until their states get lower enough.... As we've said,
    it isn't like we have border stations at all the roads that cross from
    state to state, like we do on the Mexican and Canadian borders.... But
    I've not done any traveling, even just within our state, since the
    shutdowns started.... so haven't acquired any first-hand data...

    So pretty close, and that does seem a well-reasoned placing... :)
    Yes: makes sense to place the siren on a high point and the top of the
    bluff tends to cover a good area. ...Just took a semi-quick look and
    did not see a map of where the sirens are. Maybe the real estate
    agents are having it hid: I wouldn't want to live next to one!!
    Might have to look at the website of whoever operates them... NWS....?
    I'm pretty sure I heard more Scott County being in charge, with input
    from NWS, spotters, and other agencies so Googled something like Scott County emergency siren map and saw this: https://www.scottcountyiowa.gov/ema/sirens
    Click and see:
    Sirens
    More coming soon: Sirens
    Maybe they have to plot the locations too! <g>

    Maybe.... ;)

    Most of the initial hits were for why and when they sirens sound and
    that error a while back when the sirens sounded accidentally.

    Guess they don't expect anyone to want to find out where the actual
    sirens are all located.... :)

    True, though not always due to adult reactions: I get a slight shiver
    if I am going under an overpass if a large truck is going over me at
    the same time. No known reason, no fear, just that slight quiver.
    The subconscious racing through all the possible scenarios.... ;)
    Probably due to some cartoon I saw or something equally semi-silly.
    No reaction if no vehicles going overhead at the time, Car might cause
    a double-look type reaction.

    That sort of thing doesn't bother me, but I get a quiver walking over an
    open grate in a parking lot or sidewalk... :)

    And, last I checked, still stuck there... I wonder if they've
    abandoned the telnet version entirely...
    Possibly, though would have thought they would have taken down the
    site,
    But Firsts getting in their way, maybe...? Still stuck as of last
    night....
    I'll have to get working on my Raspberry Pi weather display project
    again. ...Did a bit of snooping to see if something changed, mainly 'early century' hits (from 2011, etc.). Did see one "telnet rainmaker.wunderground.com 3000" so tried that as not sure what '3000' does; I'd guess a designate a port which either would open the routine totally or redirect to a different one than default. Like you got
    data stuck on May 17.

    Yup, and still there this morning when I checked... :)

    You'll have to get on a Linux machine or find the equivalent Windows command: curl -s wttr.in/davenport | head -7

    Richard set up a couple of cURL batch files on my computer, one for
    weather.gov and the other to check my email on the provider's site...

    Command as above will give an ASCII icon of the current conditions
    (right now a drawing of a cloud), sky conditions, temperature, wind
    speed, visibility and rainfall amount.
    Leave from pipe to the end off and get a three day forecast at
    morning, noon, evening, and night.

    What would I put in to see the stats for Rochester NY...?

    (graph.no)
    For me the predicted highs portions of the graph always seem about
    five degrees low. Still, is a guideline. (Current/start of the graph
    always seems to be within a degree or two. Easily that difference in
    live reporting between the two NWS sites within five or six miles of
    the house.)
    I still check it periodically... once in a while, it seems to be closer
    on than other times.... Decided not to depend on it for accuracy, get
    that from the weather.gov site, but Richard says the curve itself is
    somewhat accurate, if offset from where it should be.... so do look
    at it for the jollies... ;)
    I generally consider the weather forecasts from any source as an
    educated guess -- the education level seems to vary! They might get
    more respect if they said "today's high temperature will be in the upper 80's:" as opposed to "it will be 88".

    Yeah... educated guesses... but often they are pretty close... I don't
    mind when their predicted low in the summer ends up being higher than it actually gets... it's a nice surprise to get a little more bonus cooling
    than I'd expected.... ;)

    Got a few other computers and devices which may pose a bit of
    a challenge, at least one because it is 'headless': no monitor nor
    keyboard attached and designed to be remotely accessed. OK, so if the
    remote access is on '4' and it's on '0' and the two networks don't see
    each other..... Thinking might be able to use the DSL router to
    artificially create the '0' network ==> plug the headless device into
    the router, a laptop into the router.
    That's kept you busy.... ;)
    Yes -- surprisingly easy once know how to do it! ...Like anything, of course. I was half-figuring would need to do some sort of fancy
    wiring between the old and new routers, changing the mode of one, etc., etc. Fine if needed permanantly. Did find a command line: essentially told the specific computer to add the 0.x address to 4.x address - now works with both address sets! Reboot - the magic disappears!

    I trust that meant that just the new address stuck around with the
    reboot, not that things stopped working... ;)

    So as far as I know all of the computers in regular use have been
    updated and are connecting. Yea! :)

    Good show.... ;)

    True. Roof has been replaced - looks nice, has a reddish tone to it
    (selected that colour). Now waiting to get called back about having
    the gutters, window trim, awnings and screens replaced (just the ones
    damaged). Then the patio and deck replacement! Then.....
    It's all turned out to be a rather extensive house project... :)
    Yes. The balance of the repairs have not been done yet as they're
    behind. Do need to get going on the patio and deck; a bit of a
    breather between one contractor and the next.
    And besides, everyone and his brother are needing their services to
    fix things up after that hailstorm..... But one does need to get the
    jobs done while the weather is good... ;)
    Right: eveyone was wanting their roofs now and all those nows were concentrated because the damage happened at the same time. Plus even
    less spread-out because some of those roofs would not have been
    replaced normally until five or ten years from now.

    But they all had significant damage from the storm... so needed the work now.... Bright side of it is that it provided a boost to the
    construction economy... ;)

    Still waiting on the gutters, etc.

    That will come in time.... hopefully.... ;)

    The credit union(s) here is/are open now for about a week. No real
    need to go in yet.
    Ours is gradually opening up the insides of the branches now... first
    added to the approved list for appointments, and I think in a week or
    two is supposed to do limited capacity inside teller service....
    My credit union sent out an e-mail announcement the lobby is open, practicing social distancing, etc., but I haven't needed to go yet so haven't seen in practice. I go to the headquarters site and they have
    a huge lobby so we were practically practicing social distancing before anyway!

    I don't need to go more than about once a month or so... Richard goes
    once a week to move money around... ;)


    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Sat Jul 11 09:40:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    I'm trying to figure out what "moving or not" had referred to. Neither
    one of us had considered relocating in the immediate past.


    They are virtual high fives in any case... ;) (and more like 600+
    miles distancing, as well... [g])
    At least as the birdie flies!
    True.... probably even more following the roads... ;)
    Some of the original ones are more like the cow wanders!
    Well, enough of them were originally cow paths... ;)

    Very true! And some of those cows loved to wander aimlessly!


    Not sure when this came up in the last week but the last few newscasts
    has announced people from Iowa would be quarantined for fourteen days
    if they were to visit New York (State) - that would blow most
    vacations! This morning's newscast said anyone coming from a state
    whose incidence rate is 10% will be quarantined; we only have 9.5%,
    which does round up. Not sure how they pull and quarantine -- go now
    and get put in a decent hotel for two weeks!
    I have no idea how they are enforcing, or plan to enforce, the
    quarantine of people coming from the various states on the
    list.... I've almost thought it's just designed as a deterrent,
    so those people won't even try to visit until their states get
    lower enough.... As we've said, it isn't like we have border
    stations at all the roads that cross from state to state, like we
    do on the Mexican and Canadian borders.... But I've not done any traveling, even just within our state, since the shutdowns
    started.... so haven't acquired any first-hand data...

    I was also thinking more of a 'puff up to size' bluff-type statement but wouldn't want to and have no reason to test it. Originally was more
    thinking me and pleasure travel but what about business travellers?
    Gentleman my Mother knows has a job with something with aeronautics
    software (one only asks so much) -- years before COVID-19 he was able to
    do most from home, some an office, occasionally fly somewhere to analyze
    and fix the problem first-hand. Could just see him having to be
    quarantined two weeks!



    Most of the initial hits were for why and when they sirens sound and
    that error a while back when the sirens sounded accidentally.
    Guess they don't expect anyone to want to find out where the
    actual sirens are all located.... :)

    Maybe, though I could see where someone might want to not live too close
    to a siren, or some wanting to live in the vicinity to be sure they
    heard the warning.


    True, though not always due to adult reactions: I get a slight shiver
    if I am going under an overpass if a large truck is going over me at
    the same time. No known reason, no fear, just that slight quiver.
    The subconscious racing through all the possible scenarios.... ;)
    Probably due to some cartoon I saw or something equally semi-silly.
    No reaction if no vehicles going overhead at the time, Car might cause
    a double-look type reaction.
    That sort of thing doesn't bother me, but I get a quiver walking
    over an open grate in a parking lot or sidewalk... :)

    That's from too many videos of ducklings following Mama Duck and they
    fall through, needed to be rescued!


    And, last I checked, still stuck there... I wonder if they've
    abandoned the telnet version entirely...
    Possibly, though would have thought they would have taken down the
    site,
    But Firsts getting in their way, maybe...? Still stuck as of last
    night....
    I'll have to get working on my Raspberry Pi weather display project
    again. ...Did a bit of snooping to see if something changed, mainly 'early century' hits (from 2011, etc.). Did see one "telnet rainmaker.wunderground.com 3000" so tried that as not sure what '3000' does; I'd guess a designate a port which either would open the routine totally or redirect to a different one than default. Like you got
    data stuck on May 17.
    Yup, and still there this morning when I checked... :)

    Apparently they haven't found which computer needs rebooting yet.


    You'll have to get on a Linux machine or find the equivalent Windows command: curl -s wttr.in/davenport | head -7
    Richard set up a couple of cURL batch files on my computer, one
    for weather.gov and the other to check my email on the provider's
    site...

    Hooray for the Wizard!

    Command as above will give an ASCII icon of the current conditions
    (right now a drawing of a cloud), sky conditions, temperature, wind
    speed, visibility and rainfall amount.
    Leave from pipe to the end off and get a three day forecast at
    morning, noon, evening, and night.
    What would I put in to see the stats for Rochester NY...?

    Um, Rochester? (And now with the semi-smart-remp answer better try!)

    barry@NZXT:~$ curl -s wttr.in/rochester | head -7
    Weather report: rochester

    \ / Partly cloudy
    _ /"".-. 75..80 F
    \_( ). ? 5 mph
    /(___(__) 9 mi
    0.0 in

    The question mark should be a NE-pointing arrow.

    OK, should be the correct one: if remove the pipe and head commands
    you'll get a three day detailed forecast and at the bottom is "Location: Rochester, Monroe County, New York, United States of America [43.157285,-77.6152139]".




    (graph.no)
    For me the predicted highs portions of the graph always seem about
    five degrees low. Still, is a guideline. (Current/start of the graph
    always seems to be within a degree or two. Easily that difference in
    live reporting between the two NWS sites within five or six miles of
    the house.)
    I still check it periodically... once in a while, it seems to be closer
    on than other times.... Decided not to depend on it for accuracy, get
    that from the weather.gov site, but Richard says the curve itself is
    somewhat accurate, if offset from where it should be.... so do look
    at it for the jollies... ;)
    I generally consider the weather forecasts from any source as an
    educated guess -- the education level seems to vary! They might get
    more respect if they said "today's high temperature will be in the upper 80's:" as opposed to "it will be 88".
    Yeah... educated guesses... but often they are pretty close... I
    don't mind when their predicted low in the summer ends up being
    higher than it actually gets... it's a nice surprise to get a
    little more bonus cooling than I'd expected.... ;)

    <drip drip drip> Yes! Cooler weather!! A couple of days ago noted there
    are a few small areas where the grass has turned brown.


    Got a few other computers and devices which may pose a bit of
    a challenge, at least one because it is 'headless': no monitor nor
    keyboard attached and designed to be remotely accessed. OK, so if the
    remote access is on '4' and it's on '0' and the two networks don't see
    each other..... Thinking might be able to use the DSL router to
    artificially create the '0' network ==> plug the headless device into
    the router, a laptop into the router.
    That's kept you busy.... ;)
    Yes -- surprisingly easy once know how to do it! ...Like anything, of course. I was half-figuring would need to do some sort of fancy
    wiring between the old and new routers, changing the mode of one, etc., etc. Fine if needed permanantly. Did find a command line: essentially told the specific computer to add the 0.x address to 4.x address - now works with both address sets! Reboot - the magic disappears!
    I trust that meant that just the new address stuck around with
    the reboot, not that things stopped working... ;)

    Uh, yes!


    So as far as I know all of the computers in regular use have been
    updated and are connecting. Yea! :)
    Good show.... ;)

    LIS in an earlier message verified a little problem with the notebook
    computer (the WiFi doesn't stay connected). ...I may or may not replace
    the module, though not sure that is specifically the problem. Thinking
    may be overal better to get a USB WiFi adapter -- mainly because could
    be used in other devices.


    True. Roof has been replaced - looks nice, has a reddish tone to it
    (selected that colour). Now waiting to get called back about having
    the gutters, window trim, awnings and screens replaced (just the ones
    damaged). Then the patio and deck replacement! Then.....
    It's all turned out to be a rather extensive house project... :)
    Yes. The balance of the repairs have not been done yet as they're
    behind. Do need to get going on the patio and deck; a bit of a
    breather between one contractor and the next.
    And besides, everyone and his brother are needing their services to
    fix things up after that hailstorm..... But one does need to get the
    jobs done while the weather is good... ;)
    Right: eveyone was wanting their roofs now and all those nows were concentrated because the damage happened at the same time. Plus even
    less spread-out because some of those roofs would not have been
    replaced normally until five or ten years from now.
    But they all had significant damage from the storm... so needed
    the work now.... Bright side of it is that it provided a boost to
    the construction economy... ;)

    That'a true: construction projects could have been slowed or stopped
    because of COVID-19.


    Still waiting on the gutters, etc.
    That will come in time.... hopefully.... ;)

    And think I told you we almost had gutters. During an initial project
    the gutters had been either mis-measured or mis-typed as 5": they're 6". Handwritten and notated correction made. Apparantly never got finalized
    as the guys were here for 5" gutters so that got stopped and in process
    of being corrected. (Who's doing the measuring? We were also short two bundles of shingles.)


    The credit union(s) here is/are open now for about a week. No real
    need to go in yet.
    Ours is gradually opening up the insides of the branches now... first
    added to the approved list for appointments, and I think in a week or
    two is supposed to do limited capacity inside teller service....
    My credit union sent out an e-mail announcement the lobby is open, practicing social distancing, etc., but I haven't needed to go yet so haven't seen in practice. I go to the headquarters site and they have
    a huge lobby so we were practically practicing social distancing before anyway!
    I don't need to go more than about once a month or so... Richard
    goes once a week to move money around... ;)

    Bet that makes the security guards nervous! Visualizing them watching
    some outsider taking a pile of bills from one shelf to another! <gg>


    BarryMartin3@
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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to Barry Martin on Mon Jul 13 10:29:00 2020
    Barry,

    Bet that makes the security guards nervous! Visualizing them watching some outsider taking a pile of bills from one shelf to another! <gg>

    Someone asked me if I could give them a few bills. So, I said I'd give
    them the electric, water, gas, and insurance bills. <G>

    Daryl

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Tue Jul 14 08:59:00 2020

    Hi Daryl!

    Bet that makes the security guards nervous! Visualizing them watching some outsider taking a pile of bills from one shelf to another! <gg>
    Someone asked me if I could give them a few bills. So, I said
    I'd give them the electric, water, gas, and insurance bills. <G>

    That should teach them to be more specific!



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    @MyMetronet.NET

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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to Barry Martin on Thu Jul 16 11:18:00 2020
    Barry,

    Someone asked me if I could give them a few bills. So, I said
    I'd give them the electric, water, gas, and insurance bills. <G>

    That should teach them to be more specific!

    Haven't we discussed this before?? Or have we also said not to be repetitive?? <G>

    Arkansas motto: Send us your contributions, we'll send you our Bill.

    LOL!! And, there is a town in Van Buren County named Clinton (I'm not kidding!!).

    When I went up there last October for the Arkansas State Square Dance Federation Fall Festival, on the south side of town, there was a dual restaurant...a Kentucky Fried Chicken AND a Long John Silvers...with
    a buffet!! Shall we say I ate rather well?? <G>

    However, with COVID-19, I think buffets have gone the way of the
    dinosaur.

    Daryl

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Fri Jul 17 07:57:00 2020

    Hi Daryl!

    Someone asked me if I could give them a few bills. So, I said
    I'd give them the electric, water, gas, and insurance bills. <G>
    That should teach them to be more specific!
    Haven't we discussed this before?? Or have we also said not to
    be repetitive?? <G>

    Oh! I thought we were practicing, which means to go over it again.


    Arkansas motto: Send us your contributions, we'll send you our Bill.
    LOL!! And, there is a town in Van Buren County named Clinton
    (I'm not kidding!!).

    There's a city and county just upriver from here named Clinton. No idea
    who it was named for. <checking> Named for DeWitt Clinton, governor of
    New York and helped to get the Erie Canal built.


    When I went up there last October for the Arkansas State Square
    Dance Federation Fall Festival, on the south side of town, there
    was a dual restaurant...a Kentucky Fried Chicken AND a Long John Silvers...with a buffet!! Shall we say I ate rather well?? <G>
    However, with COVID-19, I think buffets have gone the way of
    the dinosaur.

    I'll have to investigate some day. I go past the Pizza Ranch
    (restaurant) frequently and they have signs outside indicating their
    buffet is open. Their pre-COVID-19 buffet table layout and area was
    large enough they possibly could rearrange a bit and line them up so
    servers could be on the kitchen side and give food to the customers
    lining up on the other side. Not sure how the 6' thing would be
    maintained. ...Maybe the customers stay at their table and the servers
    come by with a 'dessert cart' under a dome (clioche - something like
    that) and so select/reject the offering.



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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Fri Aug 7 00:43:30 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 11-Jul-2020 09:40 <=-

    I'm trying to figure out what "moving or not" had referred to.
    Neither one of us had considered relocating in the immediate past.

    It was a long ago thread.... some purely speculative talk about whether
    one might move (such as to downsize, or for some other reason)... could
    well have been a more than a year or two old thread.... just never
    changed the subject line.... :)

    Not sure when this came up in the last week but the last few newscasts
    has announced people from Iowa would be quarantined for fourteen days
    if they were to visit New York (State) - that would blow most
    vacations! This morning's newscast said anyone coming from a state
    whose incidence rate is 10% will be quarantined; we only have 9.5%,
    which does round up. Not sure how they pull and quarantine -- go now
    and get put in a decent hotel for two weeks!
    I have no idea how they are enforcing, or plan to enforce, the
    quarantine of people coming from the various states on the list....
    I've almost thought it's just designed as a deterrent, so those people
    won't even try to visit until their states get lower enough.... As
    we've said, it isn't like we have border stations at all the roads
    that cross from state to state, like we do on the Mexican and Canadian
    borders.... But I've not done any traveling, even just within our
    state, since the shutdowns started.... so haven't acquired any
    first-hand data...
    I was also thinking more of a 'puff up to size' bluff-type statement
    but wouldn't want to and have no reason to test it. Originally was
    more thinking me and pleasure travel but what about business
    travellers? Gentleman my Mother knows has a job with something with aeronautics software (one only asks so much) -- years before COVID-19
    he was able to do most from home, some an office, occasionally fly somewhere to analyze and fix the problem first-hand. Could just see
    him having to be quarantined two weeks!

    Essential workers appear to be exempt from the border shutdowns... I
    recently read that instead of the quarantine, they test those workers
    daily....

    Most of the initial hits were for why and when they sirens sound and
    that error a while back when the sirens sounded accidentally.
    Guess they don't expect anyone to want to find out where the actual
    sirens are all located.... :)
    Maybe, though I could see where someone might want to not live too
    close to a siren, or some wanting to live in the vicinity to be sure
    they heard the warning.

    Both sound logical to me... :)

    True, though not always due to adult reactions: I get a slight shiver
    if I am going under an overpass if a large truck is going over me at
    the same time. No known reason, no fear, just that slight quiver.
    The subconscious racing through all the possible scenarios.... ;)
    Probably due to some cartoon I saw or something equally semi-silly.
    No reaction if no vehicles going overhead at the time, Car might cause
    a double-look type reaction.
    That sort of thing doesn't bother me, but I get a quiver walking
    over an open grate in a parking lot or sidewalk... :)
    That's from too many videos of ducklings following Mama Duck and they
    fall through, needed to be rescued!

    Nah.... but there is something triggering it for me... dunno what...

    I'll have to get working on my Raspberry Pi weather display project
    again. ...Did a bit of snooping to see if something changed, mainly
    'early century' hits (from 2011, etc.). Did see one "telnet
    rainmaker.wunderground.com 3000" so tried that as not sure what '3000'
    does; I'd guess a designate a port which either would open the routine
    totally or redirect to a different one than default. Like you got
    data stuck on May 17.
    Yup, and still there this morning when I checked... :)
    Apparently they haven't found which computer needs rebooting yet.

    Or have decided to abandon the project after all...

    Command as above will give an ASCII icon of the current conditions
    (right now a drawing of a cloud), sky conditions, temperature, wind
    speed, visibility and rainfall amount.
    Leave from pipe to the end off and get a three day forecast at
    morning, noon, evening, and night.
    What would I put in to see the stats for Rochester NY...?
    Um, Rochester? (And now with the semi-smart-remp answer better try!) barry@NZXT:~$ curl -s wttr.in/rochester | head -7
    Weather report: rochester
    \ / Partly cloudy
    _ /"".-. 75..80 F
    \_( ). ? 5 mph
    /(___(__) 9 mi
    0.0 in
    The question mark should be a NE-pointing arrow.
    OK, should be the correct one: if remove the pipe and head commands
    you'll get a three day detailed forecast and at the bottom is
    "Location: Rochester, Monroe County, New York, United States of America [43.157285,-77.6152139]".

    Not sure I can replicate that.... but maybe.... ;)

    So as far as I know all of the computers in regular use have been
    updated and are connecting. Yea! :)
    Good show.... ;)
    LIS in an earlier message verified a little problem with the notebook computer (the WiFi doesn't stay connected). ...I may or may not
    replace the module, though not sure that is specifically the problem. Thinking may be overall better to get a USB WiFi adapter -- mainly
    because could be used in other devices.

    That does sound like a reasonable solution...

    Still waiting on the gutters, etc.
    That will come in time.... hopefully.... ;)
    And think I told you we almost had gutters. During an initial project
    the gutters had been either mis-measured or mis-typed as 5": they're
    6". Handwritten and notated correction made. Apparantly never got finalized as the guys were here for 5" gutters so that got stopped and
    in process of being corrected. (Who's doing the measuring? We were
    also short two bundles of shingles.)

    Not so great.... Hopefully taken care of by now...?

    My credit union sent out an e-mail announcement the lobby is open,
    practicing social distancing, etc., but I haven't needed to go yet so
    haven't seen in practice. I go to the headquarters site and they have
    a huge lobby so we were practically practicing social distancing before
    anyway!
    I don't need to go more than about once a month or so... Richard goes
    once a week to move money around... ;)
    Bet that makes the security guards nervous! Visualizing them watching some outsider taking a pile of bills from one shelf to another! <gg>

    There's that overactive imagination of yours again.... He writes the
    withdrawal info on the slip, deposits some in another account that he
    writes checks on, keeps some cash for the week... ;)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Fri Aug 7 07:59:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    I'm trying to figure out what "moving or not" had referred to.
    Neither one of us had considered relocating in the immediate past.
    It was a long ago thread.... some purely speculative talk about
    whether one might move (such as to downsize, or for some other
    reason)... could well have been a more than a year or two old
    thread.... just never changed the subject line.... :)

    OK, thanks -- vaguely remember the discussion. ...Packing and moving
    would be a major pain!


    Not sure when this came up in the last week but the last few newscasts
    has announced people from Iowa would be quarantined for fourteen days
    if they were to visit New York (State) - that would blow most
    vacations! This morning's newscast said anyone coming from a state
    whose incidence rate is 10% will be quarantined; we only have 9.5%,
    which does round up. Not sure how they pull and quarantine -- go now
    and get put in a decent hotel for two weeks!
    I have no idea how they are enforcing, or plan to enforce, the
    quarantine of people coming from the various states on the list....
    I've almost thought it's just designed as a deterrent, so those people
    won't even try to visit until their states get lower enough.... As
    we've said, it isn't like we have border stations at all the roads
    that cross from state to state, like we do on the Mexican and Canadian
    borders.... But I've not done any traveling, even just within our
    state, since the shutdowns started.... so haven't acquired any
    first-hand data...
    I was also thinking more of a 'puff up to size' bluff-type statement
    but wouldn't want to and have no reason to test it. Originally was
    more thinking me and pleasure travel but what about business
    travellers? Gentleman my Mother knows has a job with something with aeronautics software (one only asks so much) -- years before COVID-19
    he was able to do most from home, some an office, occasionally fly somewhere to analyze and fix the problem first-hand. Could just see
    him having to be quarantined two weeks!
    Essential workers appear to be exempt from the border
    shutdowns... I recently read that instead of the quarantine, they
    test those workers daily....

    OK -- makes sense. They (essential workers) could possibly have come in contact with an instance of COVID-19 more readily because of travel or
    even at the office than a tourist who had been holed up at home so
    essentially isolated but have to draw the line somewhere. And I was
    also thinking of Chicago restricting access of tourists from certain
    states -- Iowa was included. When I was a student (living in Iowa) I
    still had New Hampshire plates on the car and a NH ID -- if the Chicago authorities were looking for IA plates I'd be let through!

    (Not that I'm intending to flaunt the regulations, just holes in the
    logic.)



    True, though not always due to adult reactions: I get a slight shiver
    if I am going under an overpass if a large truck is going over me at
    the same time. No known reason, no fear, just that slight quiver.
    The subconscious racing through all the possible scenarios.... ;)
    Probably due to some cartoon I saw or something equally semi-silly.
    No reaction if no vehicles going overhead at the time, Car might cause
    a double-look type reaction.
    That sort of thing doesn't bother me, but I get a quiver walking
    over an open grate in a parking lot or sidewalk... :)
    That's from too many videos of ducklings following Mama Duck and they
    fall through, needed to be rescued!
    Nah.... but there is something triggering it for me... dunno
    what...

    The mind is a strange thing!


    I'll have to get working on my Raspberry Pi weather display project
    again. ...Did a bit of snooping to see if something changed, mainly
    'early century' hits (from 2011, etc.). Did see one "telnet
    rainmaker.wunderground.com 3000" so tried that as not sure what '3000'
    does; I'd guess a designate a port which either would open the routine
    totally or redirect to a different one than default. Like you got
    data stuck on May 17.
    Yup, and still there this morning when I checked... :)
    Apparently they haven't found which computer needs rebooting yet.
    Or have decided to abandon the project after all...

    Quite possible. All sorts of possibilities come to mind. ...Is still
    stuck, and was playing a bit :

    ATL (Atlanta) 17 May 2020 Forecast: Nov 2, 2019
    MLI (Moline,IL) 17 May 2020 may 17, 2020 (not a big
    deal but noted lower case error: 'sun may 17'

    BOS Boston prints the same dates and case errors.



    Command as above will give an ASCII icon of the current conditions
    (right now a drawing of a cloud), sky conditions, temperature, wind
    speed, visibility and rainfall amount.
    Leave from pipe to the end off and get a three day forecast at
    morning, noon, evening, and night.
    What would I put in to see the stats for Rochester NY...?
    Um, Rochester? (And now with the semi-smart-remp answer better try!) barry@NZXT:~$ curl -s wttr.in/rochester | head -7
    Weather report: rochester
    \ / Partly cloudy
    _ /"".-. 75..80 F
    \_( ). ? 5 mph
    /(___(__) 9 mi
    0.0 in
    The question mark should be a NE-pointing arrow.
    OK, should be the correct one: if remove the pipe and head commands
    you'll get a three day detailed forecast and at the bottom is
    "Location: Rochester, Monroe County, New York, United States of America [43.157285,-77.6152139]".
    Not sure I can replicate that.... but maybe.... ;)

    When you feel better you can do a little research and maybe ask Richard
    for guidance. ...Or installing: did a quick check to make sure it is a Windows command, or at least available (was thinking Linux it's 'curl'
    and Windows it's 'wave' [hair!], though I remember it as "see U R L").
    Anyway: https://www.oracle.com/webfolder/technetwork/tutorials/obe/cloud/objects torage/restrict_rw_accs_cntainers_REST_API/files/installing_curl_command _line_tool_on_windows.html




    So as far as I know all of the computers in regular use have been
    updated and are connecting. Yea! :)
    Good show.... ;)
    LIS in an earlier message verified a little problem with the notebook computer (the WiFi doesn't stay connected). ...I may or may not
    replace the module, though not sure that is specifically the problem. Thinking may be overall better to get a USB WiFi adapter -- mainly
    because could be used in other devices.
    That does sound like a reasonable solution...

    Cheaper and easier. Especially easier as was reading replacing that
    part requires a major disassembly of the notebook, and then the little
    detail of the antenna: appears the dual band options uses two antennae
    -- makes sense but something I would have overlooked if just ordering an updated board.


    Still waiting on the gutters, etc.
    That will come in time.... hopefully.... ;)
    And think I told you we almost had gutters. During an initial project
    the gutters had been either mis-measured or mis-typed as 5": they're
    6". Handwritten and notated correction made. Apparantly never got finalized as the guys were here for 5" gutters so that got stopped and
    in process of being corrected. (Who's doing the measuring? We were
    also short two bundles of shingles.)
    Not so great.... Hopefully taken care of by now...?

    Gutters have been replaced with the correct size. They also replaced
    the damaged window sills/frame. Still waiting on the screens, awnings,
    and siding. As for the siding, they've supposed to replace a few panels
    that were broken. Had brought some but the wrong colour.


    My credit union sent out an e-mail announcement the lobby is open,
    practicing social distancing, etc., but I haven't needed to go yet so
    haven't seen in practice. I go to the headquarters site and they have
    a huge lobby so we were practically practicing social distancing before
    anyway!
    I don't need to go more than about once a month or so... Richard goes
    once a week to move money around... ;)
    Bet that makes the security guards nervous! Visualizing them watching some outsider taking a pile of bills from one shelf to another! <gg>
    There's that overactive imagination of yours again.... He writes
    the withdrawal info on the slip, deposits some in another account
    that he writes checks on, keeps some cash for the week... ;)

    Ah! <g>



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