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    From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Sat Jul 6 07:07:00 2019

    DARYL STOUT wrote to ALL <=-

    Welcome back!


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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to BARRY MARTIN on Mon Jul 8 10:09:00 2019
    Barry,

    Welcome back!

    Glad to be back.

    However, you're in the hot seat now. A potential tropical cyclone in
    the Gulf Of Mexico will be named Barry. We always knew you were full of
    hot air <g,d,r> -- but we may have to deal with the remnants of it this weekend. The ECMWF model is calling for it to be a hurricane, and come
    ashore near the Texas/Louisiana border over the weekend. So, that means
    a threat of thunderstorms, flooding, tornadoes, and more downtime.

    If that wasn't enough, I have to have urinary bladder surgery soon. A cystoscopy revealed a huge stone...I'm not sure if it was one that was
    missed before, or a new one. I'm waiting for the surgery scheduler to
    call.

    Daryl

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Mon Aug 12 17:23:00 2019

    Hi Daryl!

    Welcome back!
    Glad to be back.

    And now I'm the one returning and have to see what you have been up to.


    However, you're in the hot seat now. A potential tropical
    cyclone in the Gulf Of Mexico will be named Barry. We always knew
    you were full of hot air <g,d,r> -- but we may have to deal with
    the remnants of it this weekend. The ECMWF model is calling for
    it to be a hurricane, and come ashore near the Texas/Louisiana
    border over the weekend. So, that means a threat of
    thunderstorms, flooding, tornadoes, and more downtime.

    As per usual "I" had a fit, raised some Cain, and then calmed down
    relatively quickly.


    If that wasn't enough, I have to have urinary bladder surgery
    soon. A cystoscopy revealed a huge stone...I'm not sure if it was
    one that was missed before, or a new one. I'm waiting for the
    surgery scheduler to call.

    Hopefully the surgery went well. My guess is a new stone thata quickly developed -- if they missed a stone of that size a year ago or whenever
    your last exam was I'd probably be considering a new urologist!



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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to BARRY MARTIN on Tue Aug 13 15:55:00 2019
    Hi Daryl!

    Hi, Barry...

    And now I'm the one returning and have to see what you have been up to.

    I would say "6 feet and no good", but I only have 2 feet, and am down
    to 5-8". <G>

    As per usual "I" had a fit, raised some Cain, and then calmed down BM>relatively quickly.

    No use complaining about the weather. It's immune to criticism. There
    are thunderstorm to my west and west northwest right now, so I'm working furiously to finish things before the storms get here, and I have to
    shut everything down.

    Hopefully the surgery went well. My guess is a new stone thata quickly BM>developed -- if they missed a stone of that size a year ago or whenever BM>your last exam was I'd probably be considering a new urologist!

    He missed it the first time, but found it this time. Before the
    cystoscopy to check for the stone, I had requested numbing gel (a lot of
    prayer helped, too). But, the urologist said "They did a study on that,
    and it really doesn't work, and it negates the effect of a placebo. It
    was like "Now, he tells me!!"...at which point, I noted the deal was in
    the bladder, focused on the boulder stone.

    If you remember the 1974 James Bond Movie with either Sean Connery or
    Roger Moore, playing James Bond 007 in "Live And Let Die", with Paul
    McCartney and Wings doing the theme...think of the scene where he's
    trying to escape the villains in a small plane out of a hangar. As he approaches the doors, they are being closed, and he says "Holy$h!+" --
    that's what I said when I saw the stone.

    The surgery itself went well. They blasted the stone to smithereens,
    then irrigated the bladder to flush it out. But, with drinking 10
    pitchers of ice water, combined with a massive dose of Lasix, I was
    filling up the male urinals on an hourly basis for 12 hours. I got no
    sleep last night as a resul.

    Daryl

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Thu Aug 15 07:38:00 2019

    Hi Daryl!

    And now I'm the one returning and have to see what you have been up to.
    I would say "6 feet and no good", but I only have 2 feet, and
    am down to 5-8". <G>

    Well that's normal, so good. Three feet you'd have some problems with
    shoes but more problems with pants!


    As per usual "I" had a fit, raised some Cain, and then calmed down
    relatively quickly.
    No use complaining about the weather. It's immune to criticism.
    There are thunderstorm to my west and west northwest right now,
    so I'm working furiously to finish things before the storms get
    here, and I have to shut everything down.

    This morning's weather is predicting a storm system to our west to
    travel to the south and so no create a problem (for this area, anyway).
    Some concern for a system currently in Ky's part of the country might
    create quite a storm for us. How they know I have no idea, but then
    that's why I'm not pointing to stuff on a Green Screen.


    Hopefully the surgery went well. My guess is a new stone thata quickly
    developed -- if they missed a stone of that size a year ago or whenever
    your last exam was I'd probably be considering a new urologist!
    He missed it the first time, but found it this time. Before the cystoscopy to check for the stone, I had requested numbing gel (a
    lot of prayer helped, too). But, the urologist said "They did a
    study on that, and it really doesn't work, and it negates the
    effect of a placebo. It was like "Now, he tells me!!"...at which
    point, I noted the deal was in the bladder, focused on the
    boulder stone.

    <chuckle> And you probably saved $100 on the medication!


    If you remember the 1974 James Bond Movie with either Sean
    Connery or Roger Moore, playing James Bond 007 in "Live And Let
    Die", with Paul McCartney and Wings doing the theme...think of
    the scene where he's trying to escape the villains in a small
    plane out of a hangar. As he approaches the doors, they are being
    closed, and he says "Holy$h!+" -- that's what I said when I saw
    the stone.

    Just think: if you were an oyster it might have been a pearl! I don't
    remember seeing any of my stones -- X-ray shadow, yes; real life, no.
    Have seen post-release fragments, and some of those were large enough!


    The surgery itself went well. They blasted the stone to
    smithereens, then irrigated the bladder to flush it out. But,
    with drinking 10 pitchers of ice water, combined with a massive
    dose of Lasix, I was filling up the male urinals on an hourly
    basis for 12 hours. I got no sleep last night as a resul.

    Your routine is more strenuous than mine! Lithotripsy to shatter the
    stone; they've never mentioned surgical irritation but I do have to
    urinate shortly after awakening from the general anesthetic. Stabilize
    and then sent home (someone else driving, of course as still groggy from
    beign under). Drink my usual amounts of water which I'll admit I have
    no idea as to the quantity but is numerous glasses of water. My
    urologist and his assistant seem to be satisfied with what I'm doing.

    Glad the surgery had great results!



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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to BARRY MARTIN on Sat Aug 17 10:47:00 2019
    Hi Daryl!

    Hi, Barry,

    Well that's normal, so good. Three feet you'd have some problems with BM>shoes but more problems with pants!

    I wear size 13 (big foot), but have had 3 sets of foot surgeries in my
    life.

    1) Arches built into them (I was born without them).

    2) Plantar Fasciitis surgery (bone spurs)...the most common ailment
    podiatrists see.

    3) Removal of 2 toenails off of each foot, due to freak accidents.

    Those big Brahma Work Boots give me support. I also use the "Happy
    Feet" cushion insoles.

    create quite a storm for us. How they know I have no idea, but then BM>that's why I'm not pointing to stuff on a Green Screen.

    The weather looks stormy for the viewing and funeral service for my
    late Mom. But, rain or shine, I have to go.

    <chuckle> And you probably saved $100 on the medication!

    They got me back with a massive dose of Lasix and 10 pitchers of
    flavored water afterwards. I'll give you 3 guesses what I was doing
    every 5 minutes for the next 12 hours, and the first 2 don't count. <G>

    Just think: if you were an oyster it might have been a pearl! I don't BM>remember seeing any of my stones -- X-ray shadow, yes; real life, no. BM>Have seen post-release fragments, and some of those were large enough!

    I passed one once in the Emergency Room...not the best feeling. It
    literally looked like a pebble from the ground.

    Glad the surgery had great results!

    I go for a follow-up the week after my late Mom's funeral. Then, I
    prepare for the next Low-T treatment. Left untreated, that can cause or aggravate cardiovascular or diabetic conditions. At least I have neither
    one of them. Getting the implants in the buttock cheek isn't the best
    feeling, but I don't need any more medical conditions. Congestive heart
    failure was what killed my Mom.

    Daryl

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Sun Aug 18 08:28:00 2019

    Hi Daryl!

    Well that's normal, so good. Three feet you'd have some problems with
    shoes but more problems with pants!
    I wear size 13 (big foot), but have had 3 sets of foot
    surgeries in my life.
    1) Arches built into them (I was born without them).

    I'm initially thinking 'flat feet' which isn't all that uncommon so
    something more. ...At least with large feet you gave the surgeon
    something to work with!


    2) Plantar Fasciitis surgery (bone spurs)...the most common
    ailment podiatrists see.

    Yes, I have one on my right foot which 'acted up' periodically while I
    was working. Cushioning helped, so I was approved to wear black dressy- looking sneakers at the store.


    3) Removal of 2 toenails off of each foot, due to freak
    accidents.

    I've just lost toenails due to dropping stuff on my feet. (Toenail is damaged, falls off, regrows.)


    Those big Brahma Work Boots give me support. I also use the
    "Happy Feet" cushion insoles.

    I'm thinking the movie from maybe 25 years ago about the young penguin
    who wants to dance!



    create quite a storm for us. How they know I have no idea, but then
    that's why I'm not pointing to stuff on a Green Screen.
    The weather looks stormy for the viewing and funeral service
    for my late Mom. But, rain or shine, I have to go.

    You know with your weather background it would seem you could have
    selected a day without rain and storms! <g> ...Was awakened by a bright
    flash in the bedroom around 5:30 this morning: storm system moving
    through.


    <chuckle> And you probably saved $100 on the medication!
    They got me back with a massive dose of Lasix and 10 pitchers
    of flavored water afterwards. I'll give you 3 guesses what I was
    doing every 5 minutes for the next 12 hours, and the first 2
    don't count. <G>

    Hmmm.... <g> You may as well just stay in the bathroom!


    Just think: if you were an oyster it might have been a pearl! I don't
    remember seeing any of my stones -- X-ray shadow, yes; real life, no.
    Have seen post-release fragments, and some of those were large enough!
    I passed one once in the Emergency Room...not the best feeling.
    It literally looked like a pebble from the ground.

    Well they are 'stones'!


    Glad the surgery had great results!
    I go for a follow-up the week after my late Mom's funeral.
    Then, I prepare for the next Low-T treatment. Left untreated,
    that can cause or aggravate cardiovascular or diabetic
    conditions. At least I have neither one of them. Getting the
    implants in the buttock cheek isn't the best feeling, but I don't
    need any more medical conditions. Congestive heart failure was
    what killed my Mom.

    Yes, if you know there are actions to take to prevent or reduce a
    medical episode probably is a good idea to do so.



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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to BARRY MARTIN on Tue Aug 20 02:15:00 2019
    Hi Daryl!

    Hi, Barry...

    I'm initially thinking 'flat feet' which isn't all that uncommon so BM>something more. ...At least with large feet you gave the surgeon BM>something to work with!

    It was that, but if I hadn't had the surger, I would've been in a
    wheelchair long before now. It's bad enough I have to use a cane and a
    walker.

    Yes, I have one on my right foot which 'acted up' periodically while I BM>was working. Cushioning helped, so I was approved to wear black dressy- BM>looking sneakers at the store.

    I was in such pain after a square dance once, and so when I had the
    surgery done, I had both feet done at the same time. I still wore
    special shoes for 8 weeks afterwards.

    I've just lost toenails due to dropping stuff on my feet. (Toenail is BM>damaged, falls off, regrows.)

    Never was that "lucky". I'm just klutzy. :P

    I'm thinking the movie from maybe 25 years ago about the young penguin BM>who wants to dance!

    Really...especially in the animated ones.

    You know with your weather background it would seem you could have BM>selected a day without rain and storms! <g> ...Was awakened by a bright BM>flash in the bedroom around 5:30 this morning: storm system moving BM>through.

    If it's going to storm overnight, or when I'm out during the day, I
    take the BBS offline, and unplug everything computer related. It only
    takes one lightning strike to fry everything.

    Hmmm.... <g> You may as well just stay in the bathroom!

    Didn't want to sit on the toilet, and aggravate the hemorrhoids. No, I
    didn't have any babies (I would've made The National Enquirer if I had
    <G>), but that comes from "sitting too long"...such as with long haul
    truck drivers. It's not just women who have babies who get them. I don't
    take the blood thinners for that reason. For one, I don't need them, and
    two, I don't want to be bleeding like a stuck pig.

    Well they are 'stones'!

    If you have multiple ones, would that be "Sly And The Family Stone"??


    Yes, if you know there are actions to take to prevent or reduce a
    medical episode probably is a good idea to do so.

    I'd rather be proactive on my health. If they find something, it's
    found early enough that they can treat it, with a greater than 90%
    chance of survival...rather than being told "you'll be dead in 2
    weeks...we can't do a thing for you".

    Daryl

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Wed Aug 21 07:47:00 2019

    Hi Daryl!

    I'm initially thinking 'flat feet' which isn't all that uncommon so
    something more. ...At least with large feet you gave the surgeon
    something to work with!
    It was that, but if I hadn't had the surger, I would've been in
    a wheelchair long before now. It's bad enough I have to use a
    cane and a walker.

    Yes: sore feet tend to do a number on the body.


    Yes, I have one on my right foot which 'acted up' periodically while I
    was working. Cushioning helped, so I was approved to wear black dressy-
    looking sneakers at the store.
    I was in such pain after a square dance once, and so when I had
    the surgery done, I had both feet done at the same time. I still
    wore special shoes for 8 weeks afterwards.

    Two months of special shoes isn't that bad, especially considering after
    than you were probably able to wear regular shoes (as long as had good support). Cane and walker probably needed during the recuperation
    period, and then again years later.


    I've just lost toenails due to dropping stuff on my feet. (Toenail is
    damaged, falls off, regrows.)
    Never was that "lucky". I'm just klutzy. :P

    You're getting a bit wild and knocking over your walker on to your
    feet?!



    You know with your weather background it would seem you could have
    selected a day without rain and storms! <g> ...Was awakened by a bright
    flash in the bedroom around 5:30 this morning: storm system moving
    through.
    If it's going to storm overnight, or when I'm out during the
    day, I take the BBS offline, and unplug everything computer
    related. It only takes one lightning strike to fry everything.

    Or you could do what I did to myself one time. I had bought a computer
    case with power supply from a surplus electronics dealer. Installed motherboard, whatever else I needed; plugged in to the UPS. Pushed the switch: BAM! BeeEEeep. BeeEEEep! The power switch had been wired wrong;
    found out later dead short when closed, so killed the UPS. Moved the
    wires to the correct terminal on the switch, tested via a low-amperage
    circuit breakered outlet. Now was fine. What I saved on the case I
    blew on the UPS!


    Hmmm.... <g> You may as well just stay in the bathroom!
    Didn't want to sit on the toilet, and aggravate the
    hemorrhoids. No, I didn't have any babies (I would've made The
    National Enquirer if I had <G>), but that comes from "sitting too long"...such as with long haul truck drivers. It's not just women
    who have babies who get them. I don't take the blood thinners for
    that reason. For one, I don't need them, and two, I don't want to
    be bleeding like a stuck pig.

    Now hemorrhoids added to the list! Have you considered becoming a test patient at the local University medical center?! <bseg> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvCVg4MrhUE


    Well they are 'stones'!
    If you have multiple ones, would that be "Sly And The Family
    Stone"?? <G>

    Well, sometimes they are sneaky and deceitful. I had one which did a
    pretty good job of mimicing appendicitis. Fooled me for a while until
    the pain point shifted. Emergency room doctor was also doing a toss-up between the two options.


    Yes, if you know there are actions to take to prevent or reduce a
    medical episode probably is a good idea to do so.
    I'd rather be proactive on my health. If they find something,
    it's found early enough that they can treat it, with a greater
    than 90% chance of survival...rather than being told "you'll be
    dead in 2 weeks...we can't do a thing for you".

    Living is good!


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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to BARRY MARTIN on Fri Aug 23 17:50:00 2019
    Hi Daryl!

    Hi, Barry...

    Yes: sore feet tend to do a number on the body.

    Some days, I could use a massage...and not just on the feet. ;)

    Two months of special shoes isn't that bad, especially considering after BM>than you were probably able to wear regular shoes (as long as had good BM>support). Cane and walker probably needed during the recuperation BM>period, and then again years later.

    Didn't really start using the cane and walker until a few years ago.

    You're getting a bit wild and knocking over your walker on to your
    feet?!

    The walker and cane are in the front room. Tripped over the darn
    things, and the room was well lit. I just wasn't paying attention. :P

    Or you could do what I did to myself one time. I had bought a computer BM>case with power supply from a surplus electronics dealer. Installed BM>motherboard, whatever else I needed; plugged in to the UPS. Pushed the BM>switch: BAM! BeeEEeep. BeeEEEep! The power switch had been wired wrong; BM>found out later dead short when closed, so killed the UPS. Moved the BM>wires to the correct terminal on the switch, tested via a low-amperage BM>circuit breakered outlet. Now was fine. What I saved on the case I
    blew on the UPS!

    Oh, boy. American Power Conversion (APC) has a deal on the majority of
    their UPS units. If ANY surge damages or destroys the UPS and properly
    attached devices...including lightning...APC will repair or replace the
    UPS and affected devices, up the value of the policy.

    Now hemorrhoids added to the list! Have you considered becoming a test BM>patient at the local University medical center?! <bseg> BM>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvCVg4MrhUE

    When I first had the rectal bleeding, I thought it was colon
    cancer...the 2nd greatest killer of men and women, right behind heart
    disease and breast cancer. But, unlike so many other forms of that
    scourge, it's one ofhte most preventable. The prep work is a PITA, but
    if they find nothing or benign polyps (that has been the case with me
    several times), or stage 0 or 1 cancer, you have greater than a 90%
    chance of survival. I don't want a diagnosis to be (like I've heard it
    for so many, who neglected being medically proactive) that "you'll be
    dead in 2 weeks...you have stage IV cancer, and we can't do anything for
    you".

    Well, sometimes they are sneaky and deceitful. I had one which did a BM>pretty good job of mimicing appendicitis. Fooled me for a while until BM>the pain point shifted. Emergency room doctor was also doing a toss-up BM>between the two options.

    I had them do a scrotal ultrasound, to make sure it wasn't torsion of
    the testicle. That is a medical emergency in a big way.

    Daryl
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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Sun Aug 25 09:46:00 2019

    Hi Daryl!

    Yes: sore feet tend to do a number on the body.
    Some days, I could use a massage...and not just on the feet. ;)

    Just be careful of people rubbing you the wrong way!


    Two months of special shoes isn't that bad, especially considering after
    than you were probably able to wear regular shoes (as long as had good
    support). Cane and walker probably needed during the recuperation
    period, and then again years later.
    Didn't really start using the cane and walker until a few years
    ago.

    The usual 'as-needed'. I was using a walker and later a cane while recuperating from fracturing my femur years ago. The cane has been
    borrowed a few times by friends who needed it temporarily due to ankle
    and knee injuries.


    You're getting a bit wild and knocking over your walker on to your
    feet?!
    The walker and cane are in the front room. Tripped over the
    darn things, and the room was well lit. I just wasn't paying
    attention. :P

    BTDT!!


    Or you could do what I did to myself one time. I had bought a computer
    case with power supply from a surplus electronics dealer. Installed
    motherboard, whatever else I needed; plugged in to the UPS. Pushed the
    switch: BAM! BeeEEeep. BeeEEEep! The power switch had been wired wrong;
    found out later dead short when closed, so killed the UPS. Moved the
    wires to the correct terminal on the switch, tested via a low-amperage
    circuit breakered outlet. Now was fine. What I saved on the case I
    blew on the UPS!
    Oh, boy. American Power Conversion (APC) has a deal on the
    majority of their UPS units. If ANY surge damages or destroys the
    UPS and properly attached devices...including lightning...APC
    will repair or replace the UPS and affected devices, up the value
    of the policy.

    I've have an APC UPS for this system -- just a better UPS for my needs
    IMO. May or may not qualify for the "properly attached devices" clause
    as have a power strip plugged in to it and the desk lamp plus a few
    other sort of computer-related devices.

    The UPS that blew was not APC, don't recall the brand, and probably
    would not qualify as the device plugged in to it was faulty; the problem
    wasn't the UPS failed to protect (though if there had been a fuse or
    circuit breaker).


    Now hemorrhoids added to the list! Have you considered becoming a test
    patient at the local University medical center?! <bseg>
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvCVg4MrhUE
    When I first had the rectal bleeding, I thought it was colon cancer...the 2nd greatest killer of men and women, right behind

    Did you really intend to say "right _behind_" and "colon" in the same sentence?!

    heart disease and breast cancer. But, unlike so many other forms
    of that scourge, it's one ofhte most preventable. The prep work
    is a PITA, but if they find nothing or benign polyps (that has
    been the case with me several times), or stage 0 or 1 cancer, you
    have greater than a 90% chance of survival. I don't want a
    diagnosis to be (like I've heard it for so many, who neglected
    being medically proactive) that "you'll be dead in 2 weeks...you
    have stage IV cancer, and we can't do anything for you".

    Yes, I need to have a colonoscopy done - has been six years. Postponed
    the fifth year as the reminder came too close to the holidays, then a
    wet and cold Spring, insurance changes, and other excuses.



    Well, sometimes they are sneaky and deceitful. I had one which did a
    pretty good job of mimicing appendicitis. Fooled me for a while until
    the pain point shifted. Emergency room doctor was also doing a toss-up
    between the two options.
    I had them do a scrotal ultrasound, to make sure it wasn't
    torsion of the testicle. That is a medical emergency in a big
    way.

    They don't like not having a properblood supply!



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    @Q.COM



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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to BARRY MARTIN on Thu Aug 29 16:03:00 2019
    Hi Daryl!

    Hi, Barry...

    Yes: sore feet tend to do a number on the body.
    Some days, I could use a massage...and not just on the feet. ;)

    Just be careful of people rubbing you the wrong way!

    Depends on where I get rubbed <eg>.

    The usual 'as-needed'. I was using a walker and later a cane while BM>recuperating from fracturing my femur years ago. The cane has been BM>borrowed a few times by friends who needed it temporarily due to ankle BM>and knee injuries.

    Well, like cataract surgery, plantar fasciitis surgery, and a few
    others, only have to be done once.

    The walker and cane are in the front room. Tripped over the
    darn things, and the room was well lit. I just wasn't paying
    attention. :P

    BTDT!!

    I won't give up my title of King Klutz without a fight. <G>

    I've have an APC UPS for this system -- just a better UPS for my needs BM>IMO. May or may not qualify for the "properly attached devices" clause BM>as have a power strip plugged in to it and the desk lamp plus a few
    other sort of computer-related devices.

    I'm going to check into getting a Generac Generator this fall. I've
    heard nothing but good things about them.

    Did you really intend to say "right _behind_" and "colon" in the same BM>sentence?!

    Yeah...butt it depends on your frame of mind. Yet, that's why my eyes
    are brown. <eg>

    Yes, I need to have a colonoscopy done - has been six years. Postponed BM>the fifth year as the reminder came too close to the holidays, then a
    wet and cold Spring, insurance changes, and other excuses.

    To the insurance company, it's a catastrophe if they have to pay a
    claim.

    They don't like not having a properblood supply!

    Gangrene is nasty.

    ... American Football: A game for men with unusually shaped balls.

    They're always trying to recover the lost 25 cent piece (get the quarterback). <G>

    Daryl

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Fri Aug 30 10:36:00 2019

    Hi Daryl!

    The usual 'as-needed'. I was using a walker and later a cane while
    recuperating from fracturing my femur years ago. The cane has been
    borrowed a few times by friends who needed it temporarily due to ankle
    and knee injuries.
    Well, like cataract surgery, plantar fasciitis surgery, and a
    few others, only have to be done once.

    Hopefully! I haven't followed closely enough to know if any has needed
    an updated surgery. I'd think possible in rare instances.


    The walker and cane are in the front room. Tripped over the
    darn things, and the room was well lit. I just wasn't paying attention. :P
    BTDT!!
    I won't give up my title of King Klutz without a fight. <G>

    But you're not supposed to be fighting with yoursefl!


    I've have an APC UPS for this system -- just a better UPS for my needs
    IMO. May or may not qualify for the "properly attached devices" clause
    as have a power strip plugged in to it and the desk lamp plus a few
    other sort of computer-related devices.
    I'm going to check into getting a Generac Generator this fall.
    I've heard nothing but good things about them.

    Yes, that's something that has been on my list of would-be-nice for some
    time.



    Yes, I need to have a colonoscopy done - has been six years. Postponed
    the fifth year as the reminder came too close to the holidays, then a
    wet and cold Spring, insurance changes, and other excuses.
    To the insurance company, it's a catastrophe if they have to
    pay a claim.

    <snortle> True! The good news is the various insurance companies I've
    dealt with (when employed, retired and private insurance, now Medicare)
    if they haven't paid there has been a valid reason: not meeting the
    deductible yet, improperly coded (was resubmitted and paid), or just not covered (my optometrist's office now likes to submit even though I'm
    not covered - OK, I just hang on to my mony a couple of months longer).


    They don't like not having a properblood supply!
    Gangrene is nasty.

    Wonder if it comes in any other colours?!


    ... American Football: A game for men with unusually shaped balls.
    They're always trying to recover the lost 25 cent piece (get
    the quarterback). <G>

    Must shop at Aldi (for a cart pay 25 to unchain, then get back when
    return the cart).


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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to BARRY MARTIN on Mon Sep 2 13:20:00 2019
    Hi Daryl!

    Hi, Barry...

    I won't give up my title of King Klutz without a fight. <G>

    But you're not supposed to be fighting with yoursefl!

    Well, I talk to myself when I need expert advice, and sometimes at a
    staff meeting for the self employed (me, myself, and I), we get into
    arguments. <G>

    Yes, that's something that has been on my list of would-be-nice for some BM>time.

    After the financial stuff settles out, I've got to get a quote on one.
    While the money on a trip would be gone with it, I'd get many years out
    of the generator...especially if we have a bad ice storm and power
    outages this winter.

    To the insurance company, it's a catastrophe if they have to
    pay a claim.

    <snortle> True! The good news is the various insurance companies I've BM>dealt with (when employed, retired and private insurance, now Medicare) BM>if they haven't paid there has been a valid reason: not meeting the BM>deductible yet, improperly coded (was resubmitted and paid), or just not BM>covered (my optometrist's office now likes to submit even though I'm
    not covered - OK, I just hang on to my mony a couple of months longer).

    I apply for financial assistance...and usually can get it.

    They don't like not having a properblood supply!
    Gangrene is nasty.

    Wonder if it comes in any other colours?!

    Or Gangrene is the mob of a bunch of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. <G>

    Must shop at Aldi (for a cart pay 25 to unchain, then get back when BM>return the cart).

    That's the way it works.

    On another note, the high school coach asks the prospective
    quarterback if he can pass a football. The kid replies "Only if I can
    swallow it". :P

    Daryl

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Tue Sep 3 08:33:00 2019

    Hi Daryl!

    I won't give up my title of King Klutz without a fight. <G>
    But you're not supposed to be fighting with yoursefl!
    Well, I talk to myself when I need expert advice, and sometimes
    at a staff meeting for the self employed (me, myself, and I), we
    get into arguments. <G>

    Well the good thing is no one is monopolizing the conversation and ideas
    are being discussed!


    Yes, that's something that has been on my list of would-be-nice for some
    time.
    After the financial stuff settles out, I've got to get a quote
    on one. While the money on a trip would be gone with it, I'd get
    many years out of the generator...especially if we have a bad ice
    storm and power outages this winter.

    Pretty much the same reasonings for one here; half-plan on combining
    that with some electrical projects here where easier to hire someone
    than for me to do it.



    They don't like not having a properblood supply!
    Gangrene is nasty.
    Wonder if it comes in any other colours?!
    Or Gangrene is the mob of a bunch of Teenage Mutant Ninja
    Turtles. <G>

    Four is a 'mob'?! ...Of turtles??!!??!!


    Must shop at Aldi (for a cart pay 25 to unchain, then get back when
    return the cart).
    That's the way it works.

    Actually does make sense: no or a lot fewer carts in the parking lot.
    At Hy-Vee there are cart corrals and most people use them. I'll pull a
    small cart (compared to the large/regular-sized), mainly to be certain I
    have the size I want when I get in to the store: some times no smalls
    inside.


    On another note, the high school coach asks the prospective
    quarterback if he can pass a football. The kid replies "Only if I
    can swallow it". :P

    Urk!



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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to BARRY MARTIN on Thu Sep 5 09:10:00 2019
    Hi Daryl!

    Hi, Barry...

    Well, I talk to myself when I need expert advice, and sometimes
    at a staff meeting for the self employed (me, myself, and I), we
    get into arguments. <G>

    Well the good thing is no one is monopolizing the conversation and ideas BM>are being discussed!

    And, we know who's guilty if the conversation leaks out. <G>

    Pretty much the same reasonings for one here; half-plan on combining
    that with some electrical projects here where easier to hire someone
    than for me to do it.

    Plus, while it's expensive to have a professional do it, if they're
    licensed, bonded, and insured, if there's a screw up, they have to redo
    it at their expense. So, they're likely to do it right the first time.

    Or Gangrene is the mob of a bunch of Teenage Mutant Ninja
    Turtles. <G>

    Four is a 'mob'?! ...Of turtles??!!??!!


    Two's company, three's a crowd, four and five are nine. <G>

    Actually does make sense: no or a lot fewer carts in the parking lot.
    At Hy-Vee there are cart corrals and most people use them. I'll pull a BM>small cart (compared to the large/regular-sized), mainly to be certain I BM>have the size I want when I get in to the store: some times no smalls BM>inside.

    Some days, I've gone to Kroger and Wal-Mart, and there are very few
    carts available in the store. Sadly, most are lazy on the walk, and
    there are several instances where non-disabled people (no indication of disability on or in their vehicle), take the parking spots for the
    disabled. Most all places have too few handicapped parking spaces, IMO.

    On another note, the high school coach asks the prospective quarterback if he can pass a football. The kid replies "Only if I
    can swallow it". :P

    Urk!

    He's going to need the services of the guy in this joke.

    This guy is pulled over by the police for speeding. The officer asks
    him "Where's the fire?". The guy replies "I'm late for work". Thinking
    he has heard it all, the cop asks the guy what he does, and he replies
    "I'm a rectum stretcher"!! :P

    Stunned, the cop asks the guy for a description. Serious as can be,
    the guy tells the cop that he works at several gastrointerology and
    related clinics, where they handle issues with the colon, rectum, etc.
    (and everyone has one of these). He says that sometimes, they have to
    use special tools to "spread the butt cheeks", and sometimes to 6 feet,
    to get the instruments in (while the patient is sedated, of course), and
    to work on areas of the colon, rectum, and anal orifice.

    Amazed, the cop asks "what do you do with a 6 foot @$$hole??". The guy replies "You put him on top of a highway overpass with a radar gun"!!


    Court Costs: $1000
    Traffic Ticket: $1500
    Look on the cops face: Priceless


    For everything else, there's masturb....... never mind. <EG>

    Yes, I'm in one of my nether moods today. LOL

    Daryl

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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Fri Sep 6 17:35:58 2019
    Quoting Barry Martin to Daryl Stout on 30-Aug-2019 10:36 <=-

    The usual 'as-needed'. I was using a walker and later a cane while
    recuperating from fracturing my femur years ago. The cane has been
    borrowed a few times by friends who needed it temporarily due to ankle
    and knee injuries.
    Well, like cataract surgery, plantar fasciitis surgery, and a
    few others, only have to be done once.
    Hopefully! I haven't followed closely enough to know if any has
    needed an updated surgery. I'd think possible in rare instances.

    If one has a broken bone repaired, unless there are issues in the way the
    bone knits, that's a one time.... With cataract surgery, it usually is
    only once, but occasionally an additional laser surgery has to be done
    to trim the edges, and even less often the cataract does return... Dunno
    about other surgeries, but always possible (even when highly unlikely)
    that the condition could need additional surgery...

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Fri Sep 6 09:27:00 2019

    Hi Daryl!

    Well, I talk to myself when I need expert advice, and sometimes
    at a staff meeting for the self employed (me, myself, and I), we
    get into arguments. <G>
    Well the good thing is no one is monopolizing the conversation and ideas
    are being discussed!
    And, we know who's guilty if the conversation leaks out. <G>

    Not so sure: seems everyone involved gets in trouble!


    Pretty much the same reasonings for one here; half-plan on combining
    that with some electrical projects here where easier to hire someone
    than for me to do it.
    Plus, while it's expensive to have a professional do it, if
    they're licensed, bonded, and insured, if there's a screw up,
    they have to redo it at their expense. So, they're likely to do
    it right the first time.

    Oh I have no problems with me doing it right, actually might have a
    concern with them doing it right as have personally experienced several instances where a wire junction done by a professional failed ==> a wire
    pulled out from the wire nut. Of course this is one of those where 99.999999999999% of the jobs are done correctly. I was just the lucky
    one to be involved with it, and at least three failures in three
    different locations (miles apart) by different contractors done
    originally at different decades. (Yes I was tempted to check _all_ the
    wiring here -- decided that could create other problems.)



    Or Gangrene is the mob of a bunch of Teenage Mutant Ninja
    Turtles. <G>
    Four is a 'mob'?! ...Of turtles??!!??!!
    Two's company, three's a crowd, four and five are nine. <G>

    And with 13 Get Eggroll -- seems like that was (close to) a Doris Day
    movie title.



    Actually does make sense: no or a lot fewer carts in the parking lot.
    At Hy-Vee there are cart corrals and most people use them. I'll pull a
    small cart (compared to the large/regular-sized), mainly to be certain I
    have the size I want when I get in to the store: some times no smalls
    inside.
    Some days, I've gone to Kroger and Wal-Mart, and there are very
    few carts available in the store. Sadly, most are lazy on the
    walk, and there are several instances where non-disabled people
    (no indication of disability on or in their vehicle), take the
    parking spots for the disabled. Most all places have too few
    handicapped parking spaces, IMO.

    One does have to be cautious with disabilities and person associated.
    Some disabilities not visible or immediately apparent: perhaps can walk
    just can't walk too far, or the person driving a vehicle with a
    disability hangtag/plate is fine but picking up the persosn with the disability.

    As for carts not being available in the store, have had that at Hy-Vee
    where they don't have the small carts I prefer inside the store: they're
    all outside in the cart corrals but haven't been picked up yet. One
    reason I get one from the parking lot even though it is wet from rain.



    On another note, the high school coach asks the prospective quarterback if he can pass a football. The kid replies "Only if I
    can swallow it". :P
    Urk!
    He's going to need the services of the guy in this joke.

    I think more the services of emergency room personnel!



    This guy is pulled over by the police for speeding. The officer
    asks him "Where's the fire?". The guy replies "I'm late for
    work". Thinking he has heard it all, the cop asks the guy what he
    does, and he replies "I'm a rectum stretcher"!! :P

    Stunned, the cop asks the guy for a description. Serious as can
    be, the guy tells the cop that he works at several
    gastrointerology and related clinics, where they handle issues
    with the colon, rectum, etc. (and everyone has one of these). He
    says that sometimes, they have to use special tools to "spread
    the butt cheeks", and sometimes to 6 feet, to get the instruments
    in (while the patient is sedated, of course), and to work on
    areas of the colon, rectum, and anal orifice.

    Amazed, the cop asks "what do you do with a 6 foot @$$hole??".
    The guy replies "You put him on top of a highway overpass with a
    radar gun"!! <BG>

    Court Costs: $1000
    Traffic Ticket: $1500
    Look on the cops face: Priceless

    Oh! THAT guy!!

    y


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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Sat Sep 7 08:30:00 2019

    Hi Nancy!


    NANCY BACKUS wrote to BARRY MARTIN <=-
    Quoting Barry Martin to Daryl Stout on 30-Aug-2019 10:36 <=-

    The usual 'as-needed'. I was using a walker and later a cane while
    recuperating from fracturing my femur years ago. The cane has been
    borrowed a few times by friends who needed it temporarily due to ankle
    and knee injuries.
    Well, like cataract surgery, plantar fasciitis surgery, and a
    few others, only have to be done once.
    Hopefully! I haven't followed closely enough to know if any has
    needed an updated surgery. I'd think possible in rare instances.
    If one has a broken bone repaired, unless there are issues in the
    way the bone knits, that's a one time.... With cataract surgery,
    it usually is only once, but occasionally an additional laser
    surgery has to be done to trim the edges, and even less often the
    cataract does return... Dunno about other surgeries, but always
    possible (even when highly unlikely) that the condition could
    need additional surgery...

    Yes, I'd expect those surgeries to be done once, some possibly a second
    time some decades later.



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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to BARRY MARTIN on Sun Sep 8 10:04:00 2019
    Hi Daryl!

    Hi, Barry...

    And, we know who's guilty if the conversation leaks out. <G>

    Not so sure: seems everyone involved gets in trouble!

    You have a valid point. <G>

    Two's company, three's a crowd, four and five are nine. <G>

    And with 13 Get Eggroll -- seems like that was (close to) a Doris Day BM>movie title.

    "With Six, You Get Eggroll". I wonder where they came up with some of
    those titles??

    I liked her in "The Glass Bottom Boat"...she was a ditz in that one.
    :P

    One does have to be cautious with disabilities and person associated. BM>Some disabilities not visible or immediately apparent: perhaps can walk BM>just can't walk too far, or the person driving a vehicle with a BM>disability hangtag/plate is fine but picking up the persosn with the BM>disability.

    A lot of my disabilities are hidden. What really gripes me is the
    vehicles that have NO EVIDENCE of a hangtag or license plate, indicating disability, parking in the space.

    As for carts not being available in the store, have had that at Hy-Vee BM>where they don't have the small carts I prefer inside the store: they're BM>all outside in the cart corrals but haven't been picked up yet. One BM>reason I get one from the parking lot even though it is wet from rain.

    It depends on how much I plan to get at shopping, for the cart size I
    get. But, with grocery shopping, I try to get enough for the entire
    month...so the cart has to be a big one. And, I try to have a list, as I
    only have so much room in the icebox.

    Restroom Sign:

    Express Lane:
    Five beers or less.

    Really.

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to BARRY MARTIN on Mon Sep 9 09:41:00 2019
    Barry,

    Yes, I'd expect those surgeries to be done once, some possibly a second BM>time some decades later.

    The only surgeries that should be done once, as it were, would be
    vasectomy (no b@!!$), hysterectomy (no babies), catarcts (no cars), and
    bone spurs (plantar fasciitis) (no BS). <G>

    Per Doctor Killjoy. <G>

    You could say I've had all 4...although males weren't meant to have
    babies to begin with (the movie "Three Men And A Baby" not
    withstanding). <G>

    That reminds me of a sequence from the movie. The first one said of
    the baby girl "She did a doodle" (pooped in her diaper). The second one
    said "It's your turn to change her", and the first one replied "I'll
    give you $1000 if you do it". <G>

    Daryl

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Mon Sep 9 07:16:00 2019

    Hi Daryl!


    Two's company, three's a crowd, four and five are nine. <G>
    And with 13 Get Eggroll -- seems like that was (close to) a Doris Day
    movie title.
    "With Six, You Get Eggroll". I wonder where they came up with
    some of those titles??

    The 'easiest thought' is a someone was at a Chinese restaurant and
    either order six of a side and a free eggroll is thrown in or "what's
    the difference between [meal] #5 and [meal] #6?". I think the movie is
    about a large family -- another movie to watch when I get time.

    Ah! That Curious Cat appeared and found this:

    The title of the movie comes from a scene where the family goes out
    for Chinese food, and one of the kids notices that because they are a
    large group, they get something extra: "With six you get eggroll!"


    I liked her in "The Glass Bottom Boat"...she was a ditz in that
    one. :P

    But a likeable one. There's a difference between flakey and stupid. :)


    One does have to be cautious with disabilities and person associated.
    Some disabilities not visible or immediately apparent: perhaps can walk
    just can't walk too far, or the person driving a vehicle with a
    disability hangtag/plate is fine but picking up the persosn with the
    disability.
    A lot of my disabilities are hidden. What really gripes me is
    the vehicles that have NO EVIDENCE of a hangtag or license plate, indicating disability, parking in the space.

    That's a difference! The bad part is perhaps a disabled person is
    borrowing a vehicle and so has a valid permit, just is in/on their own vehicle. ...I never really thought of it but if a person has a car or
    van with disabled plates and takes that vehicle in for repair and
    borrows a vehicle, then what? The handicap permit is on the other
    vehicle, and while could be removed the plate is legal only to the
    original vehicle, not the one being borrowed.


    As for carts not being available in the store, have had that at Hy-Vee
    where they don't have the small carts I prefer inside the store: they're
    all outside in the cart corrals but haven't been picked up yet. One
    reason I get one from the parking lot even though it is wet from rain.
    It depends on how much I plan to get at shopping, for the cart
    size I get. But, with grocery shopping, I try to get enough for
    the entire month...so the cart has to be a big one. And, I try to
    have a list, as I only have so much room in the icebox.

    True. Both of us tend to go weekly and so not need too much at a time,
    so able to use a small cart.



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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to BARRY MARTIN on Wed Sep 11 18:50:00 2019
    Hi Daryl!

    Hi, Barry...

    I liked her in "The Glass Bottom Boat"...she was a ditz in that
    one. :P

    But a likeable one. There's a difference between flakey and stupid. :)

    That's true...even if she was blonde. <G>

    I can't remember if it was that movie, but I think it was Rock Hudson,
    who played a hypochondriac, and Paul Lynde, who played the funeral
    director. Telling him about a cemetery plot, he noted that "a freeway
    may be built in that area soon, so we can move you, or bury you deeper".


    That's a difference! The bad part is perhaps a disabled person is BM>borrowing a vehicle and so has a valid permit, just is in/on their own BM>vehicle. ...I never really thought of it but if a person has a car or BM>van with disabled plates and takes that vehicle in for repair and
    borrows a vehicle, then what? The handicap permit is on the other BM>vehicle, and while could be removed the plate is legal only to the BM>original vehicle, not the one being borrowed.

    That's why it's best to have the hangtag. But, it clearly says
    "Hangtag must be removed before vehicle is in motion". No telling how
    many vehicles I've seen in violation of that rule.

    True. Both of us tend to go weekly and so not need too much at a time, BM>so able to use a small cart.

    Lately, I've had errands, so I've been eating out instead of at home.
    But, at some restaurants, with the hot weather, the flies have been
    terrible. At one time, there was a "black light bug zapper" in some
    places (I used to love watching the insects get zapped and burned up
    <EG>), but people complained that it was hazardous to their health. To
    me, a fly is loaded with disease, and if they get on your food, that's hazardous to your health!!

    Daryl


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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Wed Sep 11 06:54:00 2019

    Hi Daryl!

    Yes, I'd expect those surgeries to be done once, some possibly a second
    time some decades later.

    The only surgeries that should be done once, as it were, would
    be vasectomy (no b@!!$), hysterectomy (no babies), catarcts (no
    cars), and bone spurs (plantar fasciitis) (no BS). <G>

    Well the first one is a more a snip than removal but the result is
    effectively the same. And 'cats' or 'cars'? <g>



    Per Doctor Killjoy. <G>

    First two procedures should put the joy back in, third you can see what
    you're doing. As for the last one....



    You could say I've had all 4...although males weren't meant to
    have babies to begin with (the movie "Three Men And A Baby" not withstanding). <G>
    That reminds me of a sequence from the movie. The first one
    said of the baby girl "She did a doodle" (pooped in her diaper).
    The second one said "It's your turn to change her", and the first
    one replied "I'll give you $1000 if you do it". <G>

    Worth every penny!!



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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Thu Sep 12 15:45:00 2019

    Hi Daryl!

    I liked her in "The Glass Bottom Boat"...she was a ditz in that
    one. :P
    But a likeable one. There's a difference between flakey and stupid. :)
    That's true...even if she was blonde. <G>

    I don't think she'd be right as a redhead!


    I can't remember if it was that movie, but I think it was Rock
    Hudson, who played a hypochondriac, and Paul Lynde, who played
    the funeral director. Telling him about a cemetery plot, he noted
    that "a freeway may be built in that area soon, so we can move
    you, or bury you deeper". <G>

    And Nancy and I were just talking about hustle and bustte!!



    That's a difference! The bad part is perhaps a disabled person is
    borrowing a vehicle and so has a valid permit, just is in/on their own
    vehicle. ...I never really thought of it but if a person has a car or
    van with disabled plates and takes that vehicle in for repair and
    borrows a vehicle, then what? The handicap permit is on the other
    vehicle, and while could be removed the plate is legal only to the
    original vehicle, not the one being borrowed.
    That's why it's best to have the hangtag. But, it clearly says
    "Hangtag must be removed before vehicle is in motion". No telling
    how many vehicles I've seen in violation of that rule.

    Hmm: I don't recall if mine had to be removed while driving or not -
    - regulation may vary from state to state. My learning-to-drive period
    was in New Hampshire where (at the time) was illegal to have anything
    on the car glass -- even the side windows. Remember there was a big
    deal because where I worked one identified the vehicle as permitted to
    park in specific lots by a sticker on the passeneger side window, at the
    bottom near where junction with the windshield. By NH State Law, or at
    least one interpretation, the sticker was illegal. Anyway, my personal 'regulations' don't permit anything, especially something hanging form
    the rearview mirror like the hangtag.


    True. Both of us tend to go weekly and so not need too much at a time,
    so able to use a small cart.
    Lately, I've had errands, so I've been eating out instead of at
    home. But, at some restaurants, with the hot weather, the flies
    have been terrible. At one time, there was a "black light bug
    zapper" in some places (I used to love watching the insects get
    zapped and burned up <EG>), but people complained that it was
    hazardous to their health. To me, a fly is loaded with disease,
    and if they get on your food, that's hazardous to your health!!

    I'd rather have the bug get crispy several feet away form my at the bug
    zapper than flying around me or worse landing on my food. I don't quite
    go to the 'disease-carrying bug feet' thing but agree it's not healthy.



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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to BARRY MARTIN on Sat Sep 14 16:57:00 2019
    Hi Daryl!

    Hi, Barry...

    Yes, I'd expect those surgeries to be done once, some possibly a second BM>time some decades later.

    The only surgeries that should be done once, as it were, would
    be vasectomy (no b@!!$), hysterectomy (no babies), catarcts (no
    cars), and bone spurs (plantar fasciitis) (no BS). <G>

    Well the first one is a more a snip than removal but the result is BM>effectively the same. And 'cats' or 'cars'? <g>

    The girl thought he said "cadillacs" instead of "cataracts". <G>

    First two procedures should put the joy back in, third you can see what BM>you're doing. As for the last one....

    It gets you on the right foot. <G> I wore corrective shoes for 6
    weeks. I wanted to get it over with. They had "stripped me nude", and
    had gotten the IV in, and said "This is to make you feel more
    comfortable". POOF!! I was out!! When I woke up, I felt like concrete
    blocks were tied to my feet.

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    And, to many folks, their pets are their kids.

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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to BARRY MARTIN on Sat Sep 14 16:59:00 2019
    Hi Daryl!

    Hi, Barry...

    I don't think she'd be right as a redhead!

    Probably not. I've got a ton of old videos and DVD's that my late Mom
    had bought over the years...never mind all her clothes, etc. that I have
    to dispose of in the coming weeks.

    And Nancy and I were just talking about hustle and bustte!!

    Bustte or Bustle??

    Hmm: I don't recall if mine had to be removed while driving or not -

    Well, it blocks your view while it's up there.

    I'd rather have the bug get crispy several feet away form my at the bug BM>zapper than flying around me or worse landing on my food. I don't quite BM>go to the 'disease-carrying bug feet' thing but agree it's not healthy.

    I discovered one in my bedroom closet under some of my late Mom's
    clothes. I don't know if I can set it up here or not.

    Daryl


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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Sun Sep 15 10:56:00 2019

    Hi Daryl!

    Yes, I'd expect those surgeries to be done once, some possibly a second BM>time some decades later.
    The only surgeries that should be done once, as it were, would
    be vasectomy (no b@!!$), hysterectomy (no babies), catarcts (no
    cars), and bone spurs (plantar fasciitis) (no BS). <G>
    Well the first one is a more a snip than removal but the result is
    effectively the same. And 'cats' or 'cars'? <g>
    The girl thought he said "cadillacs" instead of "cataracts". <G>

    Really wish people would enunciate!


    First two procedures should put the joy back in, third you can see what
    you're doing. As for the last one....
    It gets you on the right foot. <G> I wore corrective shoes for
    6 weeks. I wanted to get it over with. They had "stripped me
    nude", and had gotten the IV in, and said "This is to make you
    feel more comfortable". POOF!! I was out!! When I woke up, I felt
    like concrete blocks were tied to my feet.

    Either the residual effects of the anesthetic -- I'm awake but can't
    more yet -- or the body not used to the 'new' feet', or you're about to
    take a long walk off a short pier!


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    And, to many folks, their pets are their kids.

    Better than the other way around!


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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Sun Sep 15 10:56:00 2019

    Hi Daryl!

    I don't think she'd be right as a redhead!
    Probably not. I've got a ton of old videos and DVD's that my
    late Mom had bought over the years...never mind all her clothes,
    etc. that I have to dispose of in the coming weeks.

    When my Mother dies I'll be doing that too. Not to be morbid about it
    but have done a little planning ahead but what to do with literally a
    third of the basement worth of clothes.... And more in the closets on
    the main floor.


    And Nancy and I were just talking about hustle and bustte!!
    Bustte or Bustle??

    Latter.



    Hmm: I don't recall if mine had to be removed while driving or not -
    Well, it blocks your view while it's up there.

    Definitely!



    I'd rather have the bug get crispy several feet away from me at the bug
    zapper than flying around me or worse landing on my food. I don't quite
    go to the 'disease-carrying bug feet' thing but agree it's not healthy.
    I discovered one in my bedroom closet under some of my late
    Mom's clothes. I don't know if I can set it up here or not.

    "Yuck!" but at least the bug was dead. Not uncommon for bugs to get
    trapped, die, and so found some time later.



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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Tue Sep 17 01:55:10 2019
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 07-Sep-2019 08:30 <=-

    Well, like cataract surgery, plantar fasciitis surgery, and a
    few others, only have to be done once.
    Hopefully! I haven't followed closely enough to know if any has
    needed an updated surgery. I'd think possible in rare instances.
    If one has a broken bone repaired, unless there are issues in the way
    the bone knits, that's a one time.... With cataract surgery, it
    usually is only once, but occasionally an additional laser surgery
    has to be done to trim the edges, and even less often the cataract
    does return... Dunno about other surgeries, but always possible (even
    when highly unlikely) that the condition could need additional
    surgery...
    Yes, I'd expect those surgeries to be done once, some possibly a
    second time some decades later.

    The "touch-up" type can happen within just a year or so... a full redo
    is more likely to be decades later if at all...

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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Daryl Stout on Wed Sep 18 01:28:18 2019
    Quoting Daryl Stout to BARRY MARTIN on 09-Sep-2019 09:41 <=-

    Yes, I'd expect those surgeries to be done once, some possibly a
    second time some decades later.

    The only surgeries that should be done once, as it were, would be vasectomy (no b@!!$), hysterectomy (no babies),

    Actually, vasectomy only disconnects the vas from the source of sperm...
    and once in a great while turns out to not have been effective... And
    there have been cases of babies gestating in the abdomen, even without a
    womb to harbor them... isn't all that good for the foetus, though...

    DS> cataracts (no cars), and bone spurs (plantar fasciitis) (no BS). <G>

    I've known at least one person that ended up having to have cataract
    surgery again, decades later than her first surgeries.... Dunno about
    the bone spurs, but I'd guess that there would be a possibility that it
    could grow back (or a new one happen) later, though not all that
    likely....

    ttyl neb

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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to BARRY MARTIN on Tue Sep 17 15:14:00 2019
    Hi Daryl!

    Hi, Barry...

    The girl thought he said "cadillacs" instead of "cataracts". <G>

    Really wish people would enunciate!

    That's like the classic commercial for Sprint Cell Service (they did
    me dirty years ago, and I'd NEVER got back with them), where apparently
    this farmer was using "a cheapie cell service". He wanted "a hundred
    oxen", but the line noise made it sound like he wanted "a hundred
    dachshund" (can you say "weiner dog stampede"??) <G>.

    Either the residual effects of the anesthetic -- I'm awake but can't
    more yet -- or the body not used to the 'new' feet', or you're about to BM>take a long walk off a short pier!

    You forgot option D -- all of the above.

    ... Kids are like pets: they eat, they poop, they sleep.
    And, to many folks, their pets are their kids.

    Better than the other way around!

    The second dachshund my late wife and I had during our marriage (I
    re-homed him the day she died), loved licking my hair, likely for the
    salt lick from the sweat. She lamented "I haven't got the heart to tell
    your barber how you wash your hair". <G>

    Daryl


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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to BARRY MARTIN on Tue Sep 17 15:17:00 2019
    Hi Daryl!

    Hi, Barry...

    When my Mother dies I'll be doing that too. Not to be morbid about it BM>but have done a little planning ahead but what to do with literally a BM>third of the basement worth of clothes.... And more in the closets on BM>the main floor.

    At least I'm not the first person that had to deal with it, and I
    won't be the last.

    And Nancy and I were just talking about hustle and bustte!!
    Bustte or Bustle??

    Latter.

    Then, that explains why Christmas stuff was in the stores here in
    mid-July. :P

    "Yuck!" but at least the bug was dead. Not uncommon for bugs to get BM>trapped, die, and so found some time later.

    Actually, it was the bug zapper deal, in the box. I should've made
    that clearer.

    It's like seeing a nurse, or a square dancer in plain clothes on their
    day off, while you're at the grocery store...and the exchange is like "I
    didn't recognize you without your clothes on"!! And, everyone in the
    next aisles are wondering "WTH??!!" <G>.

    Daryl


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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Tue Sep 17 08:24:00 2019

    Hi Nancy!

    Well, like cataract surgery, plantar fasciitis surgery, and a
    few others, only have to be done once.
    Hopefully! I haven't followed closely enough to know if any has
    needed an updated surgery. I'd think possible in rare instances.
    If one has a broken bone repaired, unless there are issues in the way
    the bone knits, that's a one time.... With cataract surgery, it
    usually is only once, but occasionally an additional laser surgery
    has to be done to trim the edges, and even less often the cataract
    does return... Dunno about other surgeries, but always possible (even
    when highly unlikely) that the condition could need additional
    surgery...
    Yes, I'd expect those surgeries to be done once, some possibly a
    second time some decades later.
    The "touch-up" type can happen within just a year or so... a full
    redo is more likely to be decades later if at all...

    Thanks - half-knew that.



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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to NANCY BACKUS on Wed Sep 18 11:53:00 2019
    Nancy,

    Actually, vasectomy only disconnects the vas from the source of sperm... NB>and once in a great while turns out to not have been effective... And NB>there have been cases of babies gestating in the abdomen, even without a NB>womb to harbor them... isn't all that good for the foetus, though...

    I would say not.

    I've known at least one person that ended up having to have cataract NB>surgery again, decades later than her first surgeries.... Dunno about NB>the bone spurs, but I'd guess that there would be a possibility that it NB>could grow back (or a new one happen) later, though not all that NB>likely....

    Well, I'm hoping I don't have any of those again. Although with your
    comment about the procedure (rarely) not being effective, I may have
    them check again to be sure...even though I had mine done in 2003,
    almost 17 years ago now.

    When the urologist walked in, he quipped "If I had a book in one hand
    that said "Vasectomy 101" on it, and a mustard covered hot dog in the
    other, you'd probably be a bit nervous!!". I replied "What was your
    first clue???!!" :P

    I had to put "frozen peas" in the groin area for several days
    afterwards to keep the swelling down. My late wife, Janice, said "you'll
    never look at them the same way again". Actually, since I can't eat corn anymore, because of the diverticulitis, I'm glad to be able to eat some vegetable.

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Wed Sep 18 08:00:00 2019

    Hi Daryl!

    The girl thought he said "cadillacs" instead of "cataracts". <G>
    Really wish people would enunciate!
    That's like the classic commercial for Sprint Cell Service
    (they did me dirty years ago, and I'd NEVER got back with them),
    where apparently this farmer was using "a cheapie cell service".
    He wanted "a hundred oxen", but the line noise made it sound like
    he wanted "a hundred dachshund" (can you say "weiner dog
    stampede"??) <G>.

    But a hundred dachshund are cute!!


    Either the residual effects of the anesthetic -- I'm awake but can't
    move yet -- or the body not used to the 'new' feet', or you're about to
    take a long walk off a short pier!
    You forgot option D -- all of the above.

    Oh-oh!


    ... Kids are like pets: they eat, they poop, they sleep.
    And, to many folks, their pets are their kids.
    Better than the other way around!
    The second dachshund my late wife and I had during our marriage
    (I re-homed him the day she died), loved licking my hair, likely
    for the salt lick from the sweat. She lamented "I haven't got the
    heart to tell your barber how you wash your hair". <G>

    Quite possibly the salts along with the texture and attention you gave
    during the licking.



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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Wed Sep 18 08:00:00 2019

    Hi Daryl!

    When my Mother dies I'll be doing that too. Not to be morbid about it
    but have done a little planning ahead but what to do with literally a
    third of the basement worth of clothes.... And more in the closets on
    the main floor.
    At least I'm not the first person that had to deal with it, and
    I won't be the last.

    Definitely. ...Have tried to get my Mother to (slowly) dispose of some
    -- nnnnope! She made/created/restyled most of them and so they're like
    her babies. Also the "but I'll wear it some time in the future" excuse.


    And Nancy and I were just talking about hustle and bustte!!
    Bustte or Bustle??
    Latter.
    Then, that explains why Christmas stuff was in the stores here
    in mid-July. :P

    We still shudder at Christmas! Too many years in retail with long hours,
    early hours, late hours... OTOH wasn't all bad. There were some once-
    a-year shoppers who were fun to see/briefly visit with.



    "Yuck!" but at least the bug was dead. Not uncommon for bugs to get
    trapped, die, and so found some time later.
    Actually, it was the bug zapper deal, in the box. I should've
    made that clearer.

    In that case not so much of a 'yuck'.


    It's like seeing a nurse, or a square dancer in plain clothes
    on their day off, while you're at the grocery store...and the
    exchange is like "I didn't recognize you without your clothes
    on"!! And, everyone in the next aisles are wondering "WTH??!!" <G>.

    <chuckle> Yes, I've heard and made a few of those comments!


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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to BARRY MARTIN on Thu Sep 19 08:50:00 2019
    Barry,

    ... We reserve the right to change rules at any time without notice.

    Even for the echo??!! <jk> <BG>

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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to BARRY MARTIN on Sat Sep 21 15:45:00 2019
    Hi Daryl!

    Hi, Barry...

    But a hundred dachshund are cute!!

    Very much so. Unless they all want to get their own way. <G>

    Quite possibly the salts along with the texture and attention you gave BM>during the licking.

    Well, when they are luvvy-duvvy, they are overly affectionate. A
    friends dachshund, just adores me.

    Daryl


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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to BARRY MARTIN on Sat Sep 21 15:48:00 2019
    Hi Daryl!

    Hi, Barry,

    Definitely. ...Have tried to get my Mother to (slowly) dispose of some BM>-- nnnnope! She made/created/restyled most of them and so they're like BM>her babies. Also the "but I'll wear it some time in the future" excuse.

    Same for my Mom...although she admitted she wished she hadn't bought
    all that stuff. But, all of us are impulsive buyers at one time or
    another.

    We still shudder at Christmas! Too many years in retail with long hours, BM>early hours, late hours... OTOH wasn't all bad. There were some once- BM>a-year shoppers who were fun to see/briefly visit with.

    On "Black Friday" this year, the day after Thanksgiving, the Arkansas Razorbacks play their one Little Rock game at War Memorial Stadium, in
    Little Rock Midtown. Combine the traffic with that, and the holiday
    shoppers, I'm staying home that day.

    <chuckle> Yes, I've heard and made a few of those comments!

    <WHISTLE!> <G>

    Daryl


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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Sun Sep 22 09:40:00 2019

    Hi Daryl!

    ... We reserve the right to change rules at any time without notice.
    Even for the echo??!! <jk> <BG>

    Echos generally just do the same over and over.


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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Sun Sep 22 09:40:00 2019

    Hi Daryl!

    But a hundred dachshunds are cute!!
    Very much so. Unless they all want to get their own way. <G>

    Then it's cute mess!


    Quite possibly the salts along with the texture and attention you gave
    during the licking.
    Well, when they are luvvy-duvvy, they are overly affectionate.
    A friends dachshund, just adores me.

    :) Possibly because you are friendly and give the pup attention and the
    pup can get away with a couple/few activities the owner doesn't
    do/allow.



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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Sun Sep 22 09:40:00 2019

    Hi Daryl!

    Definitely. ...Have tried to get my Mother to (slowly) dispose of some
    -- nnnnope! She made/created/restyled most of them and so they're like
    her babies. Also the "but I'll wear it some time in the future" excuse.
    Same for my Mom...although she admitted she wished she hadn't
    bought all that stuff. But, all of us are impulsive buyers at one
    time or another.

    The occasional impulse isn't a bad thing! Well, assume tempered: buying
    a boat would not be a good impulse purchase!


    We still shudder at Christmas! Too many years in retail with long hours,
    early hours, late hours... OTOH wasn't all bad. There were some once-
    a-year shoppers who were fun to see/briefly visit with.
    On "Black Friday" this year, the day after Thanksgiving, the
    Arkansas Razorbacks play their one Little Rock game at War
    Memorial Stadium, in Little Rock Midtown. Combine the traffic
    with that, and the holiday shoppers, I'm staying home that day.

    Probably a wise move! ...Either way sounds like a lack of movement.

    As for Black Friday, my last year working going in to the store was a
    little strange. Forgot the hour but early. Driving in noted not too
    much traffic -- more than usual but not the clogged streets like several
    years before. A lot of people waiting when I got there (store and mal
    wasn't open yet), plus my store (chain) as well as others had done the pre-Black Friday sale events which made the Black Friday Sale less of an attraction. And no stadium games going on locally -- closest might be
    Iowa City.


    <chuckle> Yes, I've heard and made a few of those comments!
    <WHISTLE!> <G>

    Where'd the referee come from?!



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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Daryl Stout on Tue Sep 24 15:24:10 2019
    Quoting Daryl Stout to NANCY BACKUS on 18-Sep-2019 11:53 <=-

    Actually, vasectomy only disconnects the vas from the source of sperm...
    and once in a great while turns out to not have been effective... And
    there have been cases of babies gestating in the abdomen, even without a
    womb to harbor them... isn't all that good for the foetus, though...
    I would say not.
    I've known at least one person that ended up having to have cataract
    surgery again, decades later than her first surgeries.... Dunno about
    the bone spurs, but I'd guess that there would be a possibility that it
    could grow back (or a new one happen) later, though not all that likely.

    Well, I'm hoping I don't have any of those again. Although with your comment about the procedure (rarely) not being effective, I may have
    them check again to be sure...even though I had mine done in 2003,
    almost 17 years ago now.

    If you aren't sexually active, there shouldn't be any problem either
    way... I had heard of a couple that decided that they'd had enough
    kids, so he had the procedure... a little while later, she had another
    baby, but testing showed it was his... so she had her tubes tied... but apparently that didn't take for her, either, as they ended up with yet
    another baby... I guess they both were just too fertile.... ;)

    And a friend of mine ended up with twins from a man who claimed to have
    had a vasectomy... testing showed they were his, too... :)

    I had to put "frozen peas" in the groin area for several days
    afterwards to keep the swelling down. My late wife, Janice, said
    "you'll never look at them the same way again". Actually, since I can't eat corn anymore, because of the diverticulitis, I'm glad to be able to eat some vegetable.

    You probably don't look at them the same way as before, though... even
    if you do still eat them... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to BARRY MARTIN on Tue Sep 24 14:11:00 2019
    Hi Daryl!

    Hi, Barry...

    But a hundred dachshunds are cute!!
    Very much so. Unless they all want to get their own way. <G>

    Then it's cute mess!

    This is true. There's a place in the UK called "Sausage Dog Hotel".
    Mainly doxies are the clients, but other breeds are there as well. But,
    it's expensive to have them there, and hard to get a slot (long waiting
    list).

    :) Possibly because you are friendly and give the pup attention and the BM>pup can get away with a couple/few activities the owner doesn't
    do/allow.

    He was beating me to death with that tail of his!!

    Daryl


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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to BARRY MARTIN on Tue Sep 24 14:13:00 2019
    Hi Daryl!

    Hi, Barry...

    The occasional impulse isn't a bad thing! Well, assume tempered: buying BM>a boat would not be a good impulse purchase!

    Well, I wasted the money on the purchase for the bathtub, then...my
    rubber duckie wanted some company. <BG>

    Probably a wise move! ...Either way sounds like a lack of movement.

    The day after we give thanks for what we have, we practically kill
    each other at the store, trying to get something we want (and don't
    really need).

    <WHISTLE!> <G>

    Where'd the referee come from?!

    From the Zebra School of Infractions. <G>

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to NANCY BACKUS on Wed Sep 25 12:39:00 2019
    Nancy,

    If you aren't sexually active, there shouldn't be any problem either NB>way... I had heard of a couple that decided that they'd had enough
    kids, so he had the procedure... a little while later, she had another NB>baby, but testing showed it was his... so she had her tubes tied... but NB>apparently that didn't take for her, either, as they ended up with yet NB>another baby... I guess they both were just too fertile.... ;)

    The wife of a friend of my brothers (he's a Little Rock Police
    Officer), had a baby, when he was 53 (I'm not sure how old she was). I
    met them at my Mom's funeral. When he walked in, he was in full uniform,
    and my brother quipped "I brought security detail". <G>

    And a friend of mine ended up with twins from a man who claimed to have NB>had a vasectomy... testing showed they were his, too... :)

    There was one of those "TV Judge Shows", with a paternity suit. Well,
    the man was elated, when he was vindicated that the DNA from the baby
    was NOT *his* (and it wasn't). Needless to say, the woman was furious (apparently her ruse had been uncovered).

    That reminds me of where this little child thought that the 10th
    commandment actually said "Thou shalt not uncover thy neighbors wife".


    You probably don't look at them the same way as before, though... even
    if you do still eat them... :)

    That doesn't bother me. I hate that I can't eat corn anymore, because
    of the diverticulitis. At least I can still eat tomatoes...for now,
    anyway.

    Daryl


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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Thu Sep 26 07:02:00 2019

    Hi Daryl!

    But a hundred dachshunds are cute!!
    Very much so. Unless they all want to get their own way. <G>
    Then it's cute mess!
    This is true. There's a place in the UK called "Sausage Dog
    Hotel". Mainly doxies are the clients, but other breeds are there
    as well. But, it's expensive to have them there, and hard to get
    a slot (long waiting list).

    I can't quite see sending a dog (or any other animal) for a vacation.
    I've taken my dog with me when I went, but we didn't do anything like
    'His and Pup Massages'.



    :) Possibly because you are friendly and give the pup attention and the
    pup can get away with a couple/few activities the owner doesn't
    do/allow.
    He was beating me to death with that tail of his!!

    Silly Daryl: that was the wrong end!



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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Thu Sep 26 07:02:00 2019

    Hi Daryl!

    The occasional impulse isn't a bad thing! Well, assume tempered: buying
    a boat would not be a good impulse purchase!
    Well, I wasted the money on the purchase for the bathtub,
    then...my rubber duckie wanted some company. <BG>

    Your rubber duckie would have wanted company if you had installed just
    the shower, though you might have been able to save money by doing the
    install yourself: garden hose, sprayer, and done!


    Probably a wise move! ...Either way sounds like a lack of movement.
    The day after we give thanks for what we have, we practically
    kill each other at the store, trying to get something we want
    (and don't really need).

    At one point I was casually acquainted with someone who worked at Office
    Max: there was a fist fight over the last of a specific chair in stock!


    <WHISTLE!> <G>
    Where'd the referee come from?!
    From the Zebra School of Infractions. <G>

    I see! ...Or maybe that's "don't see"!


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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to BARRY MARTIN on Fri Sep 27 12:13:00 2019
    Hi Daryl!

    Hi, Barry...

    I can't quite see sending a dog (or any other animal) for a vacation. BM>I've taken my dog with me when I went, but we didn't do anything like BM>'His and Pup Massages'.

    To some folks, their pets are their kids.

    He was beating me to death with that tail of his!!

    Silly Daryl: that was the wrong end!

    He loves to lick my face and nose. The second dachshund my late wife
    and I had, loved to lick my head, for the "salt lick". She lamented "I
    haven't got the heart to tell your barber how you wash your hair before
    you get it cut". <G>

    I re-homed that dachshund the day my wife died...the first one, we had
    to have put down.

    Daryl


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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to BARRY MARTIN on Fri Sep 27 12:14:00 2019
    Hi Daryl!

    Hi, Barry...

    Your rubber duckie would have wanted company if you had installed just BM>the shower, though you might have been able to save money by doing the BM>install yourself: garden hose, sprayer, and done!

    That's about my intelligence level, from a mechanical standpoint. :P

    At one point I was casually acquainted with someone who worked at Office BM>Max: there was a fist fight over the last of a specific chair in stock!

    Ridiculous.

    <WHISTLE!> <G>
    Where'd the referee come from?!
    From the Zebra School of Infractions. <G>

    I see! ...Or maybe that's "don't see"!

    I have wondered about that at various games.

    Daryl


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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Sat Sep 28 07:01:00 2019

    Hi Daryl!

    I can't quite see sending a dog (or any other animal) for a vacation.
    I've taken my dog with me when I went, but we didn't do anything like
    'His and Pup Massages'.
    To some folks, their pets are their kids.

    I don't disagree, just to me is too far.


    He was beating me to death with that tail of his!!
    Silly Daryl: that was the wrong end!
    He loves to lick my face and nose. The second dachshund my late
    wife and I had, loved to lick my head, for the "salt lick". She
    lamented "I haven't got the heart to tell your barber how you
    wash your hair before you get it cut". <G>

    Your barber has to wash your hair before cutting??!! <gg>


    I re-homed that dachshund the day my wife died...

    I can understand.




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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Sat Sep 28 07:01:00 2019

    Hi Daryl!

    Your rubber duckie would have wanted company if you had installed just
    the shower, though you might have been able to save money by doing the
    install yourself: garden hose, sprayer, and done!
    That's about my intelligence level, from a mechanical
    standpoint. :P

    I don't consider myself 'mechanically inclined' though don't do too bad
    at times.


    At one point I was casually acquainted with someone who worked at Office
    Max: there was a fist fight over the last of a specific chair in stock!
    Ridiculous.

    Really.



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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to BARRY MARTIN on Mon Sep 30 12:50:00 2019
    Hi Daryl!

    Hi, Barry,

    To some folks, their pets are their kids.

    I don't disagree, just to me is too far.

    I don't mind them having a sweater in cold weather...but dressing them
    up in other costumes is a bit much. However, if the pet doesn't mind it
    (such as Crusoe The Celebrity Dachshund), more power to them.

    He loves to lick my face and nose. The second dachshund my late
    wife and I had, loved to lick my head, for the "salt lick". She lamented "I haven't got the heart to tell your barber how you
    wash your hair before you get it cut". <G>

    Your barber has to wash your hair before cutting??!! <gg>

    Not unless I request it. Actually, it's a lady who does the trim of
    the hair and beard...her husband mows my lawn every 2-3 weeks.

    I re-homed that dachshund the day my wife died...

    I can understand.

    With health and financial concerns, I can't have another
    pet...dachshund or otherwise.

    Daryl


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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Daryl Stout on Sat Oct 5 23:39:06 2019
    Quoting Daryl Stout to BARRY MARTIN on 24-Sep-2019 14:13 <=-

    The day after we give thanks for what we have, we practically kill
    each other at the store, trying to get something we want (and don't
    really need).

    I'm not much of a shopper anyway... but that is one day I carefully
    AVOID going to the store... no bargain (even if it is a bargain) is
    worth that sort of horribleness....

    ttyl neb

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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to NANCY BACKUS on Mon Oct 7 15:35:00 2019
    Nancy,

    The day after we give thanks for what we have, we practically kill
    each other at the store, trying to get something we want (and don't really need).

    I'm not much of a shopper anyway... but that is one day I carefully
    AVOID going to the store... no bargain (even if it is a bargain) is
    worth that sort of horribleness....

    Combine that madness with the college football game in town, and
    traffic around midtown Little Rock will be a nightmare. I'm staying home
    that day. Besides, if I eat lots of turkey, the tryptophen (sp?) will
    make me sleepy.

    Daryl


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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Mon Oct 7 09:37:00 2019

    Nancy and Daryl:

    The day after we give thanks for what we have, we practically kill
    each other at the store, trying to get something we want (and don't
    really need).
    I'm not much of a shopper anyway... but that is one day I
    carefully AVOID going to the store... no bargain (even if it is a
    bargain) is worth that sort of horribleness....

    Some of the deals are better before Black Friday, or repeated a few
    weeks later. And some shoppers really enjoy the excitement of the
    crowds, etc. I was almost always scheduled for opening, I think because management knew I'd be there, plus could handle issues without needing management. There was definitely a unique excitement in the air!


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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Daryl Stout on Tue Oct 8 16:22:08 2019
    Quoting Daryl Stout to NANCY BACKUS on 25-Sep-2019 12:39 <=-

    I had heard of a couple that decided that they'd had enough kids,
    so he had the procedure... a little while later, she had another
    baby, but testing showed it was his... so she had her tubes tied...
    but apparently that didn't take for her, either, as they ended up
    with yet another baby... I guess they both were just too fertile.. ;)

    The wife of a friend of my brothers (he's a Little Rock Police
    Officer), had a baby, when he was 53 (I'm not sure how old she was).

    Men stay fertile longer than women, generally... but women can still
    produce well into their forties, sometimes later, depending on when
    menopause hits....

    I met them at my Mom's funeral. When he walked in, he was in full
    uniform, and my brother quipped "I brought security detail". <G>

    He found a little humor that day... that's good... :)

    And a friend of mine ended up with twins from a man who claimed to
    have had a vasectomy... testing showed they were his, too... :)

    There was one of those "TV Judge Shows", with a paternity suit.
    Well, the man was elated, when he was vindicated that the DNA from the baby was NOT *his* (and it wasn't). Needless to say, the woman was
    furious (apparently her ruse had been uncovered).

    It can go both ways...

    That reminds me of where this little child thought that the 10th commandment actually said "Thou shalt not uncover thy neighbors wife".


    Not exactly the right wording... but not that far off in the meaning, either.... ;)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to NANCY BACKUS on Wed Oct 9 11:40:00 2019
    Nancy,

    Men stay fertile longer than women, generally... but women can still NB>produce well into their forties, sometimes later, depending on when NB>menopause hits....

    I've read where some men and potent and fertile into their 80's.

    I met them at my Mom's funeral. When he walked in, he was in full uniform, and my brother quipped "I brought security detail". <G>

    He found a little humor that day... that's good... :)

    Being around a bunch of former high school classmates was great
    therapy for him.

    It can go both ways...

    I'm going to the urologist today for another Low-T treatment. At least
    I don't have to be sedated, and while it's not the most comfortable
    (implants in alternate butt cheeks), taking care of it helps prevent or aggravate cardiovascular or diabetes issues. My heart and lungs are
    good, but I'm 4/10 of a point away from being Type 2. That'll be a big
    game changer for me. So, I have blood work done every 6 months.

    That reminds me of where this little child thought that the 10th commandment actually said "Thou shalt not uncover thy neighbors wife".


    Not exactly the right wording... but not that far off in the meaning, NB>either.... ;)

    The innocence of children. :)

    It reminds me of a cartoon that shows the backsides of this little
    boy and girl, both naked as jaybirds.

    He says "Well, we took all of our clothes off, and I got on top of
    you. When it is supposed to start feeling good??" (he's standing on her
    head).

    She replies "I don't know, but I've already got a headache". <BG>

    Daryl


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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Wed Oct 16 17:28:00 2019

    Hi Nancy!

    One last message, 14 October, from the Pond, about 8:25pm....

    In that case I'll probably not have any more for your for a bit either!


    The day after we give thanks for what we have, we practically kill
    each other at the store, trying to get something we want (and don't
    really need).
    I'm not much of a shopper anyway... but that is one day I carefully
    AVOID going to the store... no bargain (even if it is a bargain) is
    worth that sort of horribleness....
    Some of the deals are better before Black Friday, or repeated a few
    weeks later.
    Especially true lately... I've seen a number of stores that make
    a deal of having super sales ahead of time, now...

    Part of it is if they can grab the consumer's money now a competitor
    can't get it later.


    And some shoppers really enjoy the excitement of the crowds, etc.
    I was almost always scheduled for opening, I think because management
    knew I'd be there, plus could handle issues without needing
    management. There was definitely a unique excitement in the air!
    And perhaps the shoppers at your store were a bit better behaved
    than those at some stores.... :)

    I don't recall anything like the fistfight over the last chair like
    OfficeMax had! A bit of minor nastiness but nothing to that degree.
    And think some time ago I wrote about the guy who was getting a little
    nasty about not being able to get a shopping cart; only thing I could do
    was give his a $5 coupon, which calmed him down and he was placated.


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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Daryl Stout on Wed Oct 23 23:55:44 2019
    Quoting Daryl Stout to NANCY BACKUS on 09-Oct-2019 11:40 <=-

    Men stay fertile longer than women, generally... but women can still
    produce well into their forties, sometimes later, depending on when
    menopause hits....

    I've read where some men are potent and fertile into their 80's.

    I've known at least one that was...

    I met them at my Mom's funeral. When he walked in, he was in full
    uniform, and my brother quipped "I brought security detail". <G>
    He found a little humor that day... that's good... :)

    Being around a bunch of former high school classmates was great
    therapy for him.

    That was a blessing... :)

    That reminds me of where this little child thought that the 10th
    commandment actually said "Thou shalt not uncover thy neighbors
    wife". <G>
    Not exactly the right wording... but not that far off in the meaning,
    either.... ;)

    The innocence of children. :)

    And the unwitting wisdom from their mouths... :)

    It reminds me of a cartoon that shows the backsides of this little
    boy and girl, both naked as jaybirds.
    He says "Well, we took all of our clothes off, and I got on top of
    you. When it is supposed to start feeling good??" (he's standing on
    her head).
    She replies "I don't know, but I've already got a headache". <BG>

    [snicker]

    ttyl neb

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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Tue Oct 29 15:41:54 2019
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 16-Oct-2019 17:28 <=-

    One last message, 14 October, from the Pond, about 8:25pm....
    In that case I'll probably not have any more for you for a bit
    either!

    All depends on what got answered when, I guess... <G> Now you should be getting a relatively steady stream... with gaps just for days I get too
    busy to write messages... ;)

    The day after we give thanks for what we have, we practically kill
    each other at the store, trying to get something we want (and don't
    really need).
    I'm not much of a shopper anyway... but that is one day I carefully
    AVOID going to the store... no bargain (even if it is a bargain) is
    worth that sort of horribleness....
    Some of the deals are better before Black Friday, or repeated a few
    weeks later.
    Especially true lately... I've seen a number of stores that make
    a deal of having super sales ahead of time, now...
    Part of it is if they can grab the consumer's money now a competitor
    can't get it later.

    Exactly... or at least that's the theory... :)

    And some shoppers really enjoy the excitement of the crowds, etc.
    I was almost always scheduled for opening, I think because management
    knew I'd be there, plus could handle issues without needing
    management. There was definitely a unique excitement in the air!
    And perhaps the shoppers at your store were a bit better behaved
    than those at some stores.... :)
    I don't recall anything like the fistfight over the last chair like OfficeMax had! A bit of minor nastiness but nothing to that degree.

    Sales like that do tend to bring out the aggressive behaviours... I
    figured out a long time ago that the bargain wasn't worth the
    aggravation in my book... ;)

    And think some time ago I wrote about the guy who was getting a little nasty about not being able to get a shopping cart; only thing I could
    do was give him a $5 coupon, which calmed him down and he was placated.

    At least that worked... :) You'd think that people would expect that
    things like shopping carts might be in short supply, and that there
    would be way too many people crowding the place.... but, I know, common
    sense doesn't prevail at times like that.... ;0

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Wed Oct 30 09:50:00 2019

    Hi Nancy!

    One last message, 14 October, from the Pond, about 8:25pm....
    In that case I'll probably not have any more for you for a bit
    either!
    All depends on what got answered when, I guess... <G> Now you
    should be getting a relatively steady stream... with gaps just
    for days I get too busy to write messages... ;)

    That'll work!


    The day after we give thanks for what we have, we practically kill
    each other at the store, trying to get something we want (and don't
    really need).
    I'm not much of a shopper anyway... but that is one day I carefully
    AVOID going to the store... no bargain (even if it is a bargain) is
    worth that sort of horribleness....
    Some of the deals are better before Black Friday, or repeated a few
    weeks later.
    Especially true lately... I've seen a number of stores that make
    a deal of having super sales ahead of time, now...
    Part of it is if they can grab the consumer's money now a competitor
    can't get it later.
    Exactly... or at least that's the theory... :)

    True. All kinds of holes in it: some people thrive on the last-minute shopping, same as others thrive on the Day After Thanksgiving madness --
    err, excitement. And I'll admit to being one of those who doesn't
    always plan ahead that well: not "oh, tomorrow's Christmas?" but I don't
    do the shopping for Christmas during the 4th of July sales either. And
    yes, I have started Christmas shopping; there are a couple of boxes here
    so actually shopped, not just considered. :)


    And some shoppers really enjoy the excitement of the crowds, etc.
    I was almost always scheduled for opening, I think because management
    knew I'd be there, plus could handle issues without needing
    management. There was definitely a unique excitement in the air!
    And perhaps the shoppers at your store were a bit better behaved
    than those at some stores.... :)
    I don't recall anything like the fistfight over the last chair like OfficeMax had! A bit of minor nastiness but nothing to that degree.
    Sales like that do tend to bring out the aggressive behaviours...
    I figured out a long time ago that the bargain wasn't worth the aggravation in my book... ;)

    Bargains are nice but 99% of the time not worth fighting over. Sure
    it's perfect for Uncle Ned, just as perfect for the other person's Uncle
    Jed. "Call the other store" isn't going to work as the other store is
    also busy and probably have a fight of some sort going on too.

    (And I will admit most people were decent if not nice; just more fun to
    talk about the quirks.)


    And think some time ago I wrote about the guy who was getting a little nasty about not being able to get a shopping cart; only thing I could
    do was give him a $5 coupon, which calmed him down and he was placated.
    At least that worked... :) You'd think that people would expect
    that things like shopping carts might be in short supply, and
    that there would be way too many people crowding the place....
    but, I know, common sense doesn't prevail at times like that....
    ;0

    I was a little surprised the coupon calmed him down so fast. Maybe just
    the fact he got something because normally he got nothing? Before
    giving him the coupon I did respond about the limited number of carts
    and the reply was stuck on we should have more. (He's lucky: the store
    was designed _not_ to have shopping carts [!]. When we got them in we
    had to create a space by the entries for the cart corrals.)


    ... Flying saucer: what follows a flying coffee cup during an
    argument.

    <snortle!>


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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Thu Nov 7 00:28:28 2019
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 30-Oct-2019 09:50 <=-

    All depends on what got answered when, I guess... <G> Now you
    should be getting a relatively steady stream... with gaps just
    for days I get too busy to write messages... ;)
    That'll work!

    And so it has turned out.... :)

    Some of the deals are better before Black Friday, or repeated a few
    weeks later.
    Especially true lately... I've seen a number of stores that make a
    deal of having super sales ahead of time, now...
    Part of it is if they can grab the consumer's money now a competitor
    can't get it later.
    Exactly... or at least that's the theory... :)
    True. All kinds of holes in it: some people thrive on the last-minute shopping, same as others thrive on the Day After Thanksgiving madness
    -- err, excitement. And I'll admit to being one of those who doesn't always plan ahead that well: not "oh, tomorrow's Christmas?" but I
    don't do the shopping for Christmas during the 4th of July sales
    either. And yes, I have started Christmas shopping; there are a couple
    of boxes here so actually shopped, not just considered. :)

    I used to watch for things to go on sale throughout the year... but not avidly... now we don't need to get nearly so many things for Christmas (practically none at all, actually), so I don't worry about it at all anymore... :)

    And some shoppers really enjoy the excitement of the crowds, etc.
    I was almost always scheduled for opening, I think because management
    knew I'd be there, plus could handle issues without needing
    management. There was definitely a unique excitement in the air!
    And perhaps the shoppers at your store were a bit better behaved
    than those at some stores.... :)
    I don't recall anything like the fistfight over the last chair like
    OfficeMax had! A bit of minor nastiness but nothing to that degree.
    Sales like that do tend to bring out the aggressive behaviours...
    I figured out a long time ago that the bargain wasn't worth the
    aggravation in my book... ;)
    Bargains are nice but 99% of the time not worth fighting over. Sure
    it's perfect for Uncle Ned, just as perfect for the other person's
    Uncle Jed. "Call the other store" isn't going to work as the other
    store is also busy and probably have a fight of some sort going on too.

    Exactly, and probably... ;)

    (And I will admit most people were decent if not nice; just more fun
    to talk about the quirks.)

    Yup... and they tend to be more memorable as well....

    And think some time ago I wrote about the guy who was getting a little
    nasty about not being able to get a shopping cart; only thing I could
    do was give him a $5 coupon, which calmed him down and he was placated.
    At least that worked... :) You'd think that people would expect that
    things like shopping carts might be in short supply, and that there
    would be way too many people crowding the place... but, I know, common
    sense doesn't prevail at times like that.... ;0
    I was a little surprised the coupon calmed him down so fast. Maybe
    just the fact he got something because normally he got nothing? Before giving him the coupon I did respond about the limited number of carts
    and the reply was stuck on we should have more. (He's lucky: the
    store was designed _not_ to have shopping carts [!]. When we got them
    in we had to create a space by the entries for the cart corrals.)

    Even grocery stores, that ARE designed for having shopping carts, don't
    always have enough for an overflow of customers.... ;)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Thu Nov 7 13:55:00 2019


    Hi Nancy!

    All depends on what got answered when, I guess... <G> Now you
    should be getting a relatively steady stream... with gaps just
    for days I get too busy to write messages... ;)
    That'll work!
    And so it has turned out.... :)

    Breaks and pauses are good. :)


    Some of the deals are better before Black Friday, or repeated a few
    weeks later.
    Especially true lately... I've seen a number of stores that make a
    deal of having super sales ahead of time, now...
    Part of it is if they can grab the consumer's money now a competitor
    can't get it later.
    Exactly... or at least that's the theory... :)
    True. All kinds of holes in it: some people thrive on the last-minute shopping, same as others thrive on the Day After Thanksgiving madness
    -- err, excitement. And I'll admit to being one of those who doesn't always plan ahead that well: not "oh, tomorrow's Christmas?" but I
    don't do the shopping for Christmas during the 4th of July sales
    either. And yes, I have started Christmas shopping; there are a couple
    of boxes here so actually shopped, not just considered. :)
    I used to watch for things to go on sale throughout the year...
    but not avidly... now we don't need to get nearly so many things
    for Christmas (practically none at all, actually), so I don't
    worry about it at all anymore... :)

    Same here. The various adults don't really need anything, just nice to
    give (and get) a little something. Daughters semi-hinted at winter/ Christmad-themed solar lights for outside so they're getting those. (A
    little hard to disguise when wrapping!) As for not buying an item on
    sale - <gasp!><g>. Some items are never on sale, or the sale price is 'insignificant' at a dollar or two. Not advocating throwing away money,
    but sometimes not worth waiting for a sale.



    And some shoppers really enjoy the excitement of the crowds, etc.
    I was almost always scheduled for opening, I think because management
    knew I'd be there, plus could handle issues without needing
    management. There was definitely a unique excitement in the air!
    And perhaps the shoppers at your store were a bit better behaved
    than those at some stores.... :)
    I don't recall anything like the fistfight over the last chair like
    OfficeMax had! A bit of minor nastiness but nothing to that degree.
    Sales like that do tend to bring out the aggressive behaviours...
    I figured out a long time ago that the bargain wasn't worth the
    aggravation in my book... ;)
    Bargains are nice but 99% of the time not worth fighting over. Sure
    it's perfect for Uncle Ned, just as perfect for the other person's
    Uncle Jed. "Call the other store" isn't going to work as the other
    store is also busy and probably have a fight of some sort going on too.
    Exactly, and probably... ;)

    In a perfect world....


    (And I will admit most people were decent if not nice; just more fun
    to talk about the quirks.)
    Yup... and they tend to be more memorable as well....

    "Dear Diary, Today nothing unusual happened and I was bored out of my
    skull!"


    And think some time ago I wrote about the guy who was getting a little
    nasty about not being able to get a shopping cart; only thing I could
    do was give him a $5 coupon, which calmed him down and he was placated.
    At least that worked... :) You'd think that people would expect that
    things like shopping carts might be in short supply, and that there
    would be way too many people crowding the place... but, I know, common
    sense doesn't prevail at times like that.... ;0
    I was a little surprised the coupon calmed him down so fast. Maybe
    just the fact he got something because normally he got nothing? Before giving him the coupon I did respond about the limited number of carts
    and the reply was stuck on we should have more. (He's lucky: the
    store was designed _not_ to have shopping carts [!]. When we got them
    in we had to create a space by the entries for the cart corrals.)
    Even grocery stores, that ARE designed for having shopping carts,
    don't always have enough for an overflow of customers.... ;)

    Right. Carts are an expense so don't want to have them collecting dust
    for that once a year rush. OTOH we went to Lowe's the other day and
    they have wheat seems like more carts thn they could possibly need if
    every customer took two on Black Friday.


    ... Renegade Tagline!! We're tired of Being Kidnapped!!!
    REBEL!!!!!

    But that shows the desirability!



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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Tue Nov 12 19:15:10 2019
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 07-Nov-2019 13:55 <=-

    All depends on what got answered when, I guess... <G> Now you
    should be getting a relatively steady stream... with gaps just
    for days I get too busy to write messages... ;)
    That'll work!
    And so it has turned out.... :)
    Breaks and pauses are good. :)

    And it seems that sometimes you take advantage of such as well.. :)

    Exactly... or at least that's the theory... :)
    True. All kinds of holes in it: some people thrive on the last-minute
    shopping, same as others thrive on the Day After Thanksgiving madness
    -- err, excitement. And I'll admit to being one of those who doesn't
    always plan ahead that well: not "oh, tomorrow's Christmas?" but I
    don't do the shopping for Christmas during the 4th of July sales
    either. And yes, I have started Christmas shopping; there are a couple
    of boxes here so actually shopped, not just considered. :)
    I used to watch for things to go on sale throughout the year... but
    not avidly... now we don't need to get nearly so many things for
    Christmas (practically none at all, actually), so I don't worry about
    it at all anymore... :)
    Same here. The various adults don't really need anything, just nice
    to give (and get) a little something. Daughters semi-hinted at winter/ Christmas-themed solar lights for outside so they're getting those.
    (A little hard to disguise when wrapping!)

    If they are boxed, they'd still be not too hard to wrap, though... My
    family is large, and getting larger... we used to get individual
    presents for all the siblings and their kids, etc... but as the family
    got bigger, others in the family were finding that to be too much to
    handle, so then it was more often families buying family gifts to
    exchange.... now it's just bring something for the exchange gift game,
    pretty much.... and if you want to just watch the fun, you don't even
    have to bring that... <G>

    As for not buying an item on sale - <gasp!><g>. Some items are never
    on sale, or the sale price is 'insignificant' at a dollar or two. Not advocating throwing away money, but sometimes not worth waiting for a sale.

    True... some things one just buys when one sees it, as long as the price
    isn't ridiculously out of line... ;)

    And think some time ago I wrote about the guy who was getting a little
    nasty about not being able to get a shopping cart; only thing I could
    do was give him a $5 coupon, which calmed him down and he was placated.
    At least that worked... :) You'd think that people would expect that
    things like shopping carts might be in short supply, and that there
    would be way too many people crowding the place... but, I know, common
    sense doesn't prevail at times like that.... ;0
    I was a little surprised the coupon calmed him down so fast. Maybe
    just the fact he got something because normally he got nothing? Before
    giving him the coupon I did respond about the limited number of carts
    and the reply was stuck on we should have more. (He's lucky: the
    store was designed _not_ to have shopping carts [!]. When we got them
    in we had to create a space by the entries for the cart corrals.)
    Even grocery stores, that ARE designed for having shopping carts,
    don't always have enough for an overflow of customers.... ;)
    Right. Carts are an expense so don't want to have them collecting
    dust for that once a year rush. OTOH we went to Lowe's the other day
    and they have wheat seems like more carts thn they could possibly need
    if every customer took two on Black Friday.

    Maybe they've experienced other overflow times, like when people are
    getting supplies for their gardens in the spring...? Or figuring that
    some people need more than one cart when getting all the supplies needed
    for some household project...? (You are talking Lowe's hardware-type
    stores, not the grocery type?)

    ... Renegade Tagline!! We're tired of Being Kidnapped!!! REBEL!!!!!
    But that shows the desirability!

    Tell that to the tagline.... <G>

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Wed Nov 13 11:08:00 2019

    Hi Nancy!

    All depends on what got answered when, I guess... <G> Now you
    should be getting a relatively steady stream... with gaps just
    for days I get too busy to write messages... ;)
    That'll work!
    And so it has turned out.... :)
    Breaks and pauses are good. :)
    And it seems that sometimes you take advantage of such as well..
    :)

    More only when I'm out of town. There have been a few times when no
    messages to download, so generally nothing for me to respond to and
    upload!


    Exactly... or at least that's the theory... :)
    True. All kinds of holes in it: some people thrive on the last-minute
    shopping, same as others thrive on the Day After Thanksgiving madness
    -- err, excitement. And I'll admit to being one of those who doesn't
    always plan ahead that well: not "oh, tomorrow's Christmas?" but I
    don't do the shopping for Christmas during the 4th of July sales
    either. And yes, I have started Christmas shopping; there are a couple
    of boxes here so actually shopped, not just considered. :)
    I used to watch for things to go on sale throughout the year... but
    not avidly... now we don't need to get nearly so many things for
    Christmas (practically none at all, actually), so I don't worry about
    it at all anymore... :)
    Same here. The various adults don't really need anything, just nice
    to give (and get) a little something. Daughters semi-hinted at winter/ Christmas-themed solar lights for outside so they're getting those.
    (A little hard to disguise when wrapping!)
    If they are boxed, they'd still be not too hard to wrap,

    These were sold without cartons. Have seen (and received) boxed solar
    lights.

    though... My family is large, and getting larger... we used to
    get individual presents for all the siblings and their kids,
    etc... but as the family got bigger, others in the family were
    finding that to be too much to handle, so then it was more often
    families buying family gifts to exchange.... now it's just bring
    something for the exchange gift game, pretty much.... and if you
    want to just watch the fun, you don't even have to bring that... <G>

    Makes sense: after a few additions gift-giving can become unwieldy and a
    chore. Might make more sense to give a family gift or two to share:
    promote family togetherness and something better at $20 than four gifts
    at $5. As you said, all depends on a bunch of circumstances and
    details.


    As for not buying an item on sale - <gasp!><g>. Some items are never
    on sale, or the sale price is 'insignificant' at a dollar or two. Not advocating throwing away money, but sometimes not worth waiting for a sale.
    True... some things one just buys when one sees it, as long as
    the price isn't ridiculously out of line... ;)

    Right. I've had to update our cell phones: our current ones are quite
    fine except they won't connect at the end of the year (VoLTE required is
    the reason -- Voice over LTE -- I vague know; main thing was the current
    phones don't have). I could have probably saved some money by going
    external and buying my own phones and 'bringing them in' to the network.
    I'd have to do the research on compatability, I'd probably get minimal
    support if something goes wrong. For a few dollars get the phones from
    them (TracFone), if/when something goes wrong they have to figure it out
    as they provided the phone.


    And think some time ago I wrote about the guy who was getting a little
    nasty about not being able to get a shopping cart; only thing I could
    do was give him a $5 coupon, which calmed him down and he was placated.
    At least that worked... :) You'd think that people would expect that
    things like shopping carts might be in short supply, and that there
    would be way too many people crowding the place... but, I know, common
    sense doesn't prevail at times like that.... ;0
    I was a little surprised the coupon calmed him down so fast. Maybe
    just the fact he got something because normally he got nothing? Before
    giving him the coupon I did respond about the limited number of carts
    and the reply was stuck on we should have more. (He's lucky: the
    store was designed _not_ to have shopping carts [!]. When we got them
    in we had to create a space by the entries for the cart corrals.)
    Even grocery stores, that ARE designed for having shopping carts,
    don't always have enough for an overflow of customers.... ;)
    Right. Carts are an expense so don't want to have them collecting
    dust for that once a year rush. OTOH we went to Lowe's the other day
    and they have what seems like more carts thn they could possibly need
    if every customer took two on Black Friday.
    Maybe they've experienced other overflow times, like when people
    are getting supplies for their gardens in the spring...? Or
    figuring that some people need more than one cart when getting
    all the supplies needed for some household project...? (You are
    talking Lowe's hardware-type stores, not the grocery type?)

    Actually in this instance specifically Lowe's. As for the number of
    carts, possible the need for all the carts during certain events. Maybe
    the carts available at the Garden Center (essentially outdoors) are
    moved to the storage area where I saw them -- sitting under snow might
    rust them. Water gets inside hollow parts, freezes and breaks.



    ... Renegade Tagline!! We're tired of Being Kidnapped!!! REBEL!!!!!
    But that shows the desirability!
    Tell that to the tagline.... <G>

    Where's the microphone icon??!!



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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Tue Nov 26 16:10:56 2019
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 13-Nov-2019 11:08 <=-

    All depends on what got answered when, I guess... <G> Now you
    should be getting a relatively steady stream... with gaps just
    for days I get too busy to write messages... ;)
    That'll work!
    And so it has turned out.... :)
    Breaks and pauses are good. :)
    And it seems that sometimes you take advantage of such as well... :)
    More only when I'm out of town. There have been a few times when no messages to download, so generally nothing for me to respond to and upload!

    Yes, we do miss Daryl... ;0 And I've been having exceptionally busy
    days lately, myself....

    And yes, I have started Christmas shopping; there are a couple
    of boxes here so actually shopped, not just considered. :)
    I used to watch for things to go on sale throughout the year... but
    not avidly... now we don't need to get nearly so many things for
    Christmas (practically none at all, actually), so I don't worry about
    it at all anymore... :)
    Same here. The various adults don't really need anything, just nice
    to give (and get) a little something. Daughters semi-hinted at winter/
    Christmas-themed solar lights for outside so they're getting those.
    (A little hard to disguise when wrapping!)
    If they are boxed, they'd still be not too hard to wrap, though...
    These were sold without cartons. Have seen (and received) boxed solar lights.

    So find boxes for them, and make your wrapping easier... or stuff them
    in a large Christmas-themed shopping bag with lots of tissue paper to
    cover them... ;)

    My family is large, and getting larger... we used to get individual
    presents for all the siblings and their kids, etc... but as the family
    got bigger, others in the family were finding that to be too much to
    handle, so then it was more often families buying family gifts to
    exchange.... now it's just bring something for the exchange gift game,
    pretty much.... and if you want to just watch the fun, you don't even
    have to bring that... <G>
    Makes sense: after a few additions gift-giving can become unwieldy and
    a chore. Might make more sense to give a family gift or two to share: promote family togetherness and something better at $20 than four
    gifts at $5. As you said, all depends on a bunch of circumstances and details.

    Yup.... The younger generation has pretty much taken over the running of
    the gifting part of the celebration... I used to be pretty good at
    finding individual gifts for a dollar or less that would be greatly
    appreciated by the recipient... and nice family gifts for under $10...

    As for not buying an item on sale - <gasp!><g>. Some items are never
    on sale, or the sale price is 'insignificant' at a dollar or two. Not
    advocating throwing away money, but sometimes not worth waiting for a
    sale.
    True... some things one just buys when one sees it, as long as the
    price isn't ridiculously out of line... ;)
    Right. I've had to update our cell phones: our current ones are quite fine except they won't connect at the end of the year (VoLTE required
    is the reason -- Voice over LTE -- I vague know; main thing was the current phones don't have).

    That must be related to the kind of service you have... Pretty sure my
    phone doesn't have that capability, but I've received no such notice,
    and mine is TracFone as well... But then mine is still a simple phone,
    just voice and text with rudimentary data....

    I could have probably saved some money by
    going external and buying my own phones and 'bringing them in' to the network. I'd have to do the research on compatability, I'd probably get minimal support if something goes wrong. For a few dollars get the
    phones from them (TracFone), if/when something goes wrong they have to figure it out as they provided the phone.

    Nice theory... ;) Seriously, though, that could make sense... ;)

    store was designed _not_ to have shopping carts [!]. When we got them
    in we had to create a space by the entries for the cart corrals.)
    Even grocery stores, that ARE designed for having shopping carts,
    don't always have enough for an overflow of customers.... ;)
    Right. Carts are an expense so don't want to have them collecting
    dust for that once a year rush. OTOH we went to Lowe's the other day
    and they have what seems like more carts thn they could possibly need
    if every customer took two on Black Friday.
    Maybe they've experienced other overflow times, like when people are
    getting supplies for their gardens in the spring...? Or figuring that
    some people need more than one cart when getting all the supplies
    needed for some household project...? (You are talking Lowe's
    hardware-type stores, not the grocery type?)
    Actually in this instance specifically Lowe's.

    Reason I asked was that apparently there are Lowe's grocery stores down
    in NC where friends of mine live....

    As for the number of
    carts, possible the need for all the carts during certain events.
    Maybe the carts available at the Garden Center (essentially outdoors)
    are moved to the storage area where I saw them -- sitting under snow
    might rust them. Water gets inside hollow parts, freezes and breaks.

    That would make a lot of sense.... Snow and ice aren't nice to carts, so
    better to bring them into some sort of shelter... :)

    ... It's a tough job! ..... So I'd Rather YOU do it.
    But one _never_ phrases it that way!!

    True.... that might be counterproductive.... ;)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Wed Nov 27 09:41:00 2019

    Hi Nancy!

    All depends on what got answered when, I guess... <G> Now you
    should be getting a relatively steady stream... with gaps just
    for days I get too busy to write messages... ;)
    That'll work!
    And so it has turned out.... :)
    Breaks and pauses are good. :)
    And it seems that sometimes you take advantage of such as well... :)
    More only when I'm out of town. There have been a few times when no messages to download, so generally nothing for me to respond to and upload!
    Yes, we do miss Daryl... ;0 And I've been having exceptionally
    busy days lately, myself....

    He does seems inundatyed by the whole thing at times. I try to remind
    him and give examples of how to just do a small project at a time: just
    clean out a drawer at a time, rest and do a small 'celebration'and soon
    the whole dresser is done.


    And yes, I have started Christmas shopping; there are a couple
    of boxes here so actually shopped, not just considered. :)
    I used to watch for things to go on sale throughout the year... but
    not avidly... now we don't need to get nearly so many things for
    Christmas (practically none at all, actually), so I don't worry about
    it at all anymore... :)
    Same here. The various adults don't really need anything, just nice
    to give (and get) a little something. Daughters semi-hinted at winter/
    Christmas-themed solar lights for outside so they're getting those.
    (A little hard to disguise when wrapping!)
    If they are boxed, they'd still be not too hard to wrap, though...
    These were sold without cartons. Have seen (and received) boxed solar lights.
    So find boxes for them, and make your wrapping easier... or stuff
    them in a large Christmas-themed shopping bag with lots of tissue
    paper to cover them... ;)

    Yes, I'll figure out something. Or since it's a requested gift and they
    know what they're getting other than the specific style just put
    something fun/festive/holiday-weird-but-appropriate over the solar light
    head.

    (Hmm: lost the DSL while writing that. No power glitch I'm aware of;
    Central Office is a few blocks down the hill from the house. Two nights
    ago was constantly dropping and speeds were all over the place: at one
    time the upload speed was about a quarter of what the usual was.
    ...Checked the Gateway: back to my normal-and-customary connect speed.)


    My family is large, and getting larger... we used to get individual
    presents for all the siblings and their kids, etc... but as the family
    got bigger, others in the family were finding that to be too much to
    handle, so then it was more often families buying family gifts to
    exchange.... now it's just bring something for the exchange gift game,
    pretty much.... and if you want to just watch the fun, you don't even
    have to bring that... <G>
    Makes sense: after a few additions gift-giving can become unwieldy and
    a chore. Might make more sense to give a family gift or two to share: promote family togetherness and something better at $20 than four
    gifts at $5. As you said, all depends on a bunch of circumstances and details.
    Yup.... The younger generation has pretty much taken over the
    running of the gifting part of the celebration... I used to be
    pretty good at finding individual gifts for a dollar or less that
    would be greatly appreciated by the recipient... and nice family
    gifts for under $10...

    Now they don't use pencils so those and pencil sharpeners are out, as
    probably pens, paper -- except printer paper.....


    As for not buying an item on sale - <gasp!><g>. Some items are never
    on sale, or the sale price is 'insignificant' at a dollar or two. Not
    advocating throwing away money, but sometimes not worth waiting for a
    sale.
    True... some things one just buys when one sees it, as long as the
    price isn't ridiculously out of line... ;)
    Right. I've had to update our cell phones: our current ones are quite fine except they won't connect at the end of the year (VoLTE required
    is the reason -- Voice over LTE -- I vague know; main thing was the current phones don't have).
    That must be related to the kind of service you have... Pretty
    sure my phone doesn't have that capability, but I've received no
    such notice, and mine is TracFone as well... But then mine is
    still a simple phone, just voice and text with rudimentary
    data....

    Maybe have The Wizard double-check before the end of the year. My notification was in the text messages, which I rarely check because no
    one calls my cell phone much less texts me unless pre-arranged. I would
    guess could also go to your TracFone accout on-line and see if any notifications there.


    I could have probably saved some money by
    going external and buying my own phones and 'bringing them in' to the network. I'd have to do the research on compatability, I'd probably get minimal support if something goes wrong. For a few dollars get the
    phones from them (TracFone), if/when something goes wrong they have to figure it out as they provided the phone.
    Nice theory... ;) Seriously, though, that could make sense... ;)

    To me there are times when it potentially makes more sense to spent a
    little more money and give future problems to someone else. Don't want
    to get caught in the middle where the cell phone manufacturer says it's TracFone's problem and TracFone says it's the manufacturer's problem.
    While TracFone isn't the manufacturer there were the supplier "so you
    figure it out".


    store was designed _not_ to have shopping carts [!]. When we got them
    in we had to create a space by the entries for the cart corrals.)
    Even grocery stores, that ARE designed for having shopping carts,
    don't always have enough for an overflow of customers.... ;)
    Right. Carts are an expense so don't want to have them collecting
    dust for that once a year rush. OTOH we went to Lowe's the other day
    and they have what seems like more carts thn they could possibly need
    if every customer took two on Black Friday.
    Maybe they've experienced other overflow times, like when people are
    getting supplies for their gardens in the spring...? Or figuring that
    some people need more than one cart when getting all the supplies
    needed for some household project...? (You are talking Lowe's
    hardware-type stores, not the grocery type?)
    Actually in this instance specifically Lowe's.
    Reason I asked was that apparently there are Lowe's grocery
    stores down in NC where friends of mine live....

    That could be confusing! Lowe's the hardware store or Lowe's the
    grocery store?! ...The old Menard's (hardware chain store) here had a
    tiny food/snack section and sold large containers of pretzels which were
    quite good -- almost was worthwhile to make a special trip.



    ... It's a tough job! ..... So I'd Rather YOU do it.
    But one _never_ phrases it that way!!
    True.... that might be counterproductive.... ;)

    Phrasing it that way does tend to put up those barriers!



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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Mon Dec 2 19:04:52 2019
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 27-Nov-2019 09:41 <=-

    Breaks and pauses are good. :)
    And it seems that sometimes you take advantage of such as well... :)
    More only when I'm out of town. There have been a few times when no
    messages to download, so generally nothing for me to respond to and
    upload!
    Yes, we do miss Daryl... ;0 And I've been having exceptionally
    busy days lately, myself....
    He does seems inundated by the whole thing at times. I try to remind
    him and give examples of how to just do a small project at a time:
    just clean out a drawer at a time, rest and do a small 'celebration'and soon the whole dresser is done.

    Like my tagline of days attacking at once, it seems weeks have ganged up
    on him to attack all at once... Sometimes a small project at a time just doesn't seem to be accomplishing anything those times...

    Same here. The various adults don't really need anything, just nice
    to give (and get) a little something. Daughters semi-hinted at winter/
    Christmas-themed solar lights for outside so they're getting those.
    (A little hard to disguise when wrapping!)
    If they are boxed, they'd still be not too hard to wrap, though...
    These were sold without cartons. Have seen (and received) boxed solar
    lights.
    So find boxes for them, and make your wrapping easier... or stuff them
    in a large Christmas-themed shopping bag with lots of tissue paper to
    cover them... ;)
    Yes, I'll figure out something. Or since it's a requested gift and
    they know what they're getting other than the specific style just put something fun/festive/holiday-weird-but-appropriate over the solar
    light head.

    That could work, too... :)

    (Hmm: lost the DSL while writing that. No power glitch I'm aware of; Central Office is a few blocks down the hill from the house. Two
    nights ago was constantly dropping and speeds were all over the place:
    at one time the upload speed was about a quarter of what the usual was. ...Checked the Gateway: back to my normal-and-customary connect speed.)

    Maybe it's just the holidaze attacking.... ;)

    Makes sense: after a few additions gift-giving can become unwieldy and
    a chore. Might make more sense to give a family gift or two to share:
    promote family togetherness and something better at $20 than four
    gifts at $5. As you said, all depends on a bunch of circumstances and
    details.
    Yup.... The younger generation has pretty much taken over the running
    of the gifting part of the celebration... I used to be pretty good at
    finding individual gifts for a dollar or less that would be greatly
    appreciated by the recipient... and nice family gifts for under $10...
    Now they don't use pencils so those and pencil sharpeners are out, as probably pens, paper -- except printer paper.....

    You might be surprised... even the kids appreciate pens, pencils, etc...
    always some use for them.... :)

    Right. I've had to update our cell phones: our current ones are quite
    fine except they won't connect at the end of the year (VoLTE required
    is the reason -- Voice over LTE -- I vague know; main thing was the
    current phones don't have).
    That must be related to the kind of service you have... Pretty sure my
    phone doesn't have that capability, but I've received no such notice,
    and mine is TracFone as well... But then mine is still a simple phone,
    just voice and text with rudimentary data....
    Maybe have The Wizard double-check before the end of the year. My notification was in the text messages, which I rarely check because no
    one calls my cell phone much less texts me unless pre-arranged. I
    would guess could also go to your TracFone account on-line and see if
    any notifications there.

    Haven't got a TracFone account online so far as I know... the Wizard
    thinks it's more likely something with the service provider (maybe
    Sprint?) that TracFone is using in your area for your phones.... and
    explained that to have VoLTE, I'd have to be getting my voice calls over
    data, which my phone can't do at all anyway... I do regularly check my
    texts (the message that I have them pops up on the little screen and has
    to be dealt with before I can do anything else with the phone), and I
    know I've received no such message.... Oh, and my provider is AT&T...

    I could have probably saved some money by going external and buying
    my own phones and 'bringing them in' to the network. I'd have to do
    the research on compatability, I'd probably get minimal support if
    something goes wrong. For a few dollars get the phones from them
    (TracFone), if/when something goes wrong they have to figure it out
    as they provided the phone.
    Nice theory... ;) Seriously, though, that could make sense... ;)
    To me there are times when it potentially makes more sense to spend a little more money and give future problems to someone else. Don't
    want to get caught in the middle where the cell phone manufacturer says it's TracFone's problem and TracFone says it's the manufacturer's
    problem. While TracFone isn't the manufacturer they were the supplier
    "so you figure it out".

    Indeed.

    Maybe they've experienced other overflow times, like when people are
    getting supplies for their gardens in the spring...? Or figuring that
    some people need more than one cart when getting all the supplies
    needed for some household project...? (You are talking Lowe's
    hardware-type stores, not the grocery type?)
    Actually in this instance specifically Lowe's.
    Reason I asked was that apparently there are Lowe's grocery stores down
    in NC where friends of mine live....
    That could be confusing! Lowe's the hardware store or Lowe's the
    grocery store?!

    Exactly... :) All we have around here is also just the hardware store Lowe's...

    ...The old Menard's (hardware chain store) here had a tiny food/snack section and sold large containers of pretzels which were quite good
    -- almost was worthwhile to make a special trip.

    One can find interesting things in odd places... :)

    ... It's a tough job! ..... So I'd Rather YOU do it.
    But one _never_ phrases it that way!!
    True.... that might be counterproductive.... ;)
    Phrasing it that way does tend to put up those barriers!

    Yup... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Tue Dec 3 08:59:00 2019

    Hi Nancy!

    Breaks and pauses are good. :)
    And it seems that sometimes you take advantage of such as well... :)
    More only when I'm out of town. There have been a few times when no
    messages to download, so generally nothing for me to respond to and
    upload!
    Yes, we do miss Daryl... ;0 And I've been having exceptionally
    busy days lately, myself....
    He does seems inundated by the whole thing at times. I try to remind
    him and give examples of how to just do a small project at a time:
    just clean out a drawer at a time, rest and do a small 'celebration'and soon the whole dresser is done.
    Like my tagline of days attacking at once, it seems weeks have
    ganged up on him to attack all at once... Sometimes a small
    project at a time just doesn't seem to be accomplishing anything
    those times...

    Right. Daryl seemed to be overwhelmed by the large project (I have to
    clean the room) so I tried suggesting to take it as a bunch of small
    projects. A dresser drawer may be too small, up to him. Idea was to
    attack the job differently so less overwhelming.


    Same here. The various adults don't really need anything, just nice
    to give (and get) a little something. Daughters semi-hinted at winter/
    Christmas-themed solar lights for outside so they're getting those.
    (A little hard to disguise when wrapping!)
    If they are boxed, they'd still be not too hard to wrap, though...
    These were sold without cartons. Have seen (and received) boxed solar
    lights.
    So find boxes for them, and make your wrapping easier... or stuff them
    in a large Christmas-themed shopping bag with lots of tissue paper to
    cover them... ;)
    Yes, I'll figure out something. Or since it's a requested gift and
    they know what they're getting other than the specific style just put something fun/festive/holiday-weird-but-appropriate over the solar
    light head.
    That could work, too... :)

    Since then haven't even thought of packaging ideas.


    (Hmm: lost the DSL while writing that. No power glitch I'm aware of; Central Office is a few blocks down the hill from the house. Two
    nights ago was constantly dropping and speeds were all over the place:
    at one time the upload speed was about a quarter of what the usual was. ...Checked the Gateway: back to my normal-and-customary connect speed.)
    Maybe it's just the holidaze attacking.... ;)

    Good news is no problems (noted) since. I'd guess an update on their
    end that didn't quite work as expected. ...Just checked and still at my
    usual speeds. Signal to Noise, etc., numbers are good to excellent (the gateway displays a numeric value which I have seen change and compared
    to a chart from an unaffiliated source.)


    Makes sense: after a few additions gift-giving can become unwieldy and
    a chore. Might make more sense to give a family gift or two to share:
    promote family togetherness and something better at $20 than four
    gifts at $5. As you said, all depends on a bunch of circumstances and
    details.
    Yup.... The younger generation has pretty much taken over the running
    of the gifting part of the celebration... I used to be pretty good at
    finding individual gifts for a dollar or less that would be greatly
    appreciated by the recipient... and nice family gifts for under $10...
    Now they don't use pencils so those and pencil sharpeners are out, as probably pens, paper -- except printer paper.....
    You might be surprised... even the kids appreciate pens, pencils,
    etc... always some use for them.... :)

    Autumn is into drawing and I somewhat expect her to continue as her
    mother is artistic, so pens, pencile, coloured pens and pencils,
    supplies, etc., will probably be easy gifts. I have a holder with a
    variety of coloured pens, markers and highlighters -- yes, slightly colourblind but I still colour code! Autumn uses those when she brings
    up her sketch pad.


    Right. I've had to update our cell phones: our current ones are quite <snip>
    Wizard thinks it's more likely something with the service
    provider (maybe Sprint?) that TracFone is using in your area for
    your phones.... and explained that to have VoLTE, I'd have to be
    getting my voice calls over data, which my phone can't do at all
    anyway... I do regularly check my texts (the message that I have
    them pops up on the little screen and has to be dealt with before
    I can do anything else with the phone), and I know I've received
    no such message.... Oh, and my provider is AT&T...

    OK, seems like you've got things checked out and won't need to update.
    Here the TracFones piggyback on Verizon and they are dropping --
    whatever the old is.


    Maybe they've experienced other overflow times, like when people are
    getting supplies for their gardens in the spring...? Or figuring that
    some people need more than one cart when getting all the supplies
    needed for some household project...? (You are talking Lowe's
    hardware-type stores, not the grocery type?)
    Actually in this instance specifically Lowe's.
    Reason I asked was that apparently there are Lowe's grocery stores down
    in NC where friends of mine live....
    That could be confusing! Lowe's the hardware store or Lowe's the
    grocery store?!
    Exactly... :) All we have around here is also just the hardware
    store Lowe's...

    Not all that unusual for the same name to be for to different stores;
    local people probably have some sort of phrasing, or just sentence
    structure: "Lowe's has pork roast on sale" - not going to go to the one selling hardware.


    ...The old Menard's (hardware chain store) here had a tiny food/snack section and sold large containers of pretzels which were quite good
    -- almost was worthwhile to make a special trip.
    One can find interesting things in odd places... :)

    Yes - I do like to wander a bit; one never knows what one will find!
    And clearance is fun -- 99% of the time nothing worthwhile but....



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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Sun Dec 8 02:10:14 2019
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 03-Dec-2019 08:59 <=-

    Yes, we do miss Daryl... ;0 And I've been having exceptionally
    busy days lately, myself....
    He does seems inundated by the whole thing at times. I try to remind
    him and give examples of how to just do a small project at a time:
    just clean out a drawer at a time, rest and do a small 'celebration'and
    soon the whole dresser is done.
    Like my tagline of days attacking at once, it seems weeks have ganged
    up on him to attack all at once... Sometimes a small project at a
    time just doesn't seem to be accomplishing anything those times...
    Right. Daryl seemed to be overwhelmed by the large project (I have to clean the room) so I tried suggesting to take it as a bunch of small projects. A dresser drawer may be too small, up to him. Idea was to attack the job differently so less overwhelming.

    Sometimes that can help, sometimes not... :) I take it you are able to
    be in ongoing contact with him, then...?

    If they are boxed, they'd still be not too hard to wrap, though...
    These were sold without cartons. Have seen (and received) boxed solar
    lights.
    So find boxes for them, and make your wrapping easier... or stuff them
    in a large Christmas-themed shopping bag with lots of tissue paper to
    cover them... ;)
    Yes, I'll figure out something. Or since it's a requested gift and
    they know what they're getting other than the specific style just put
    something fun/festive/holiday-weird-but-appropriate over the solar
    light head.
    That could work, too... :)
    Since then haven't even thought of packaging ideas.

    Unless you want to just get them done and set aside, there's not really
    a rush yet... ;)

    Yup.... The younger generation has pretty much taken over the running
    of the gifting part of the celebration... I used to be pretty good at
    finding individual gifts for a dollar or less that would be greatly
    appreciated by the recipient... and nice family gifts for under $10...
    Now they don't use pencils so those and pencil sharpeners are out, as
    probably pens, paper -- except printer paper.....
    You might be surprised... even the kids appreciate pens, pencils,
    etc... always some use for them.... :)
    Autumn is into drawing and I somewhat expect her to continue as her
    mother is artistic, so pens, pencils, coloured pens and pencils,
    supplies, etc., will probably be easy gifts. I have a holder with a variety of coloured pens, markers and highlighters -- yes, slightly colourblind but I still colour code! Autumn uses those when she
    brings up her sketch pad.

    That's handy, then... :) Even slightly colorblind, you probably see the
    colors as being somewhat different from each other....

    Right. I've had to update our cell phones: our current ones are quite
    <snip>
    Wizard thinks it's more likely something with the service provider
    (maybe Sprint?) that TracFone is using in your area for your phones...
    and explained that to have VoLTE, I'd have to be getting my voice
    calls over data, which my phone can't do at all anyway... I do
    regularly check my texts (the message that I have them pops up on the
    little screen and has to be dealt with before I can do anything else
    with the phone), and I know I've received no such message... Oh, and
    my provider is AT&T...
    OK, seems like you've got things checked out and won't need to update. Here the TracFones piggyback on Verizon and they are dropping --
    whatever the old is.

    Just as well that my current cellphone is TracFone with AT&T, then...
    the last one was using Verizon....

    (You are talking Lowe's hardware-type stores, not the grocery type?)
    Actually in this instance specifically Lowe's.
    Reason I asked was that apparently there are Lowe's grocery stores down
    in NC where friends of mine live....
    That could be confusing! Lowe's the hardware store or Lowe's the
    grocery store?!
    Exactly... :) All we have around here is also just the hardware
    store Lowe's...
    Not all that unusual for the same name to be for two different stores; local people probably have some sort of phrasing, or just sentence structure: "Lowe's has pork roast on sale" - not going to go to the
    one selling hardware.

    Yeah, that's pretty much how my friends there handle it... :)

    ...The old Menard's (hardware chain store) here had a tiny food/snack
    section and sold large containers of pretzels which were quite good
    -- almost was worthwhile to make a special trip.
    One can find interesting things in odd places... :)
    Yes - I do like to wander a bit; one never knows what one will find!
    And clearance is fun -- 99% of the time nothing worthwhile but....

    You just never know what you might find when and where... ;)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Sun Dec 8 10:12:00 2019

    Hi Nancy!

    Yes, we do miss Daryl... ;0 And I've been having exceptionally
    busy days lately, myself....
    He does seems inundated by the whole thing at times. I try to remind
    him and give examples of how to just do a small project at a time:
    just clean out a drawer at a time, rest and do a small 'celebration'and
    soon the whole dresser is done.
    Like my tagline of days attacking at once, it seems weeks have ganged
    up on him to attack all at once... Sometimes a small project at a
    time just doesn't seem to be accomplishing anything those times...
    Right. Daryl seemed to be overwhelmed by the large project (I have to clean the room) so I tried suggesting to take it as a bunch of small projects. A dresser drawer may be too small, up to him. Idea was to attack the job differently so less overwhelming.
    Sometimes that can help, sometimes not... :) I take it you are
    able to be in ongoing contact with him, then...?

    Yes, Daryl has been e-mailing me. Sometimes he's in pretty good
    spirits, sometimes not, and can change within the e-mail (not too
    surprising as even through I'm reading as one sitting could be
    interrupted and so done as several time frames). Last issue was the
    person who was supposed to pick up his late mother's clothes possibly
    could be backing out; good news is he did find an alternative. And for whatever reason the Little Rock Salvation Army doesn't have a truck to
    pick up donations; local one to me does, not sure about local Goodwill, DAV/Disabled American Veterans does.


    If they are boxed, they'd still be not too hard to wrap, though...
    These were sold without cartons. Have seen (and received) boxed solar
    lights.
    So find boxes for them, and make your wrapping easier... or stuff them
    in a large Christmas-themed shopping bag with lots of tissue paper to
    cover them... ;)
    Yes, I'll figure out something. Or since it's a requested gift and
    they know what they're getting other than the specific style just put
    something fun/festive/holiday-weird-but-appropriate over the solar
    light head.
    That could work, too... :)
    Since then haven't even thought of packaging ideas.
    Unless you want to just get them done and set aside, there's not
    really a rush yet... ;)

    No, but getting there: the Family Christmas is this Saturday (December
    14th).


    Yup.... The younger generation has pretty much taken over the running
    of the gifting part of the celebration... I used to be pretty good at
    finding individual gifts for a dollar or less that would be greatly
    appreciated by the recipient... and nice family gifts for under $10...
    Now they don't use pencils so those and pencil sharpeners are out, as
    probably pens, paper -- except printer paper.....
    You might be surprised... even the kids appreciate pens, pencils,
    etc... always some use for them.... :)
    Autumn is into drawing and I somewhat expect her to continue as her
    mother is artistic, so pens, pencils, coloured pens and pencils,
    supplies, etc., will probably be easy gifts. I have a holder with a variety of coloured pens, markers and highlighters -- yes, slightly colourblind but I still colour code! Autumn uses those when she
    brings up her sketch pad.
    That's handy, then... :) Even slightly colorblind, you probably
    see the colors as being somewhat different from each other....

    Yes: glancing at the holder there happens to be a pink marker and a pink highlighter next to each other: close but definitely different cap
    colours.


    Right. I've had to update our cell phones: our current ones are quite
    <snip>
    Wizard thinks it's more likely something with the service provider
    (maybe Sprint?) that TracFone is using in your area for your phones...
    and explained that to have VoLTE, I'd have to be getting my voice
    calls over data, which my phone can't do at all anyway... I do
    regularly check my texts (the message that I have them pops up on the
    little screen and has to be dealt with before I can do anything else
    with the phone), and I know I've received no such message... Oh, and
    my provider is AT&T...
    OK, seems like you've got things checked out and won't need to update. Here the TracFones piggyback on Verizon and they are dropping --
    whatever the old is.
    Just as well that my current cellphone is TracFone with AT&T,
    then... the last one was using Verizon....

    The only problem might be if you roam into an area only served by
    Verizon. I'm thinking that's now extremely rare. (Back in my cell
    phone selling days at the store we originally warned our customers
    because the Williamsburg IA area was roaming; no big deal other than
    there is a large shopping center there. For whatever reason the
    original carrier couldn't get an agreement in that area; has been taken
    care of since.)


    ...The old Menard's (hardware chain store) here had a tiny food/snack
    section and sold large containers of pretzels which were quite good
    -- almost was worthwhile to make a special trip.
    One can find interesting things in odd places... :)
    Yes - I do like to wander a bit; one never knows what one will find!
    And clearance is fun -- 99% of the time nothing worthwhile but....
    You just never know what you might find when and where... ;)

    True! And sometimes if a sufficiently low price will buy because do
    want, just not want enough at the full/sale price, or can be useful as
    parts.


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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Thu Dec 19 22:09:10 2019
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 08-Dec-2019 10:12 <=-

    Like my tagline of days attacking at once, it seems weeks have ganged
    up on him to attack all at once... Sometimes a small project at a
    time just doesn't seem to be accomplishing anything those times...
    Right. Daryl seemed to be overwhelmed by the large project (I have to
    clean the room) so I tried suggesting to take it as a bunch of small
    projects. A dresser drawer may be too small, up to him. Idea was to
    attack the job differently so less overwhelming.
    Sometimes that can help, sometimes not... :) I take it you are able to
    be in ongoing contact with him, then...?
    Yes, Daryl has been e-mailing me. Sometimes he's in pretty good
    spirits, sometimes not, and can change within the e-mail (not too surprising as even through I'm reading as one sitting could be
    interrupted and so done as several time frames).

    I'm glad he still has part of his support network... :) As to the
    change of spirits within an email, it might also be one sitting, just
    having the overwhelm come over midstream....

    Last issue was the person who was supposed to pick up his late mother's clothes possibly could be backing out; good news is he did find an alternative. And for whatever reason the Little Rock Salvation Army doesn't have a truck to pick up donations; local one to me does, not
    sure about local Goodwill, DAV/Disabled American Veterans does.

    Hope it all gets worked out nicely for him... The donation trucks might
    just be busier this time of year, too... Not sure what we have here,
    haven't needed them....

    If they are boxed, they'd still be not too hard to wrap, though...
    These were sold without cartons. Have seen (and received) boxed solar
    lights.
    So find boxes for them, and make your wrapping easier... or stuff them
    in a large Christmas-themed shopping bag with lots of tissue paper to
    cover them... ;)
    Yes, I'll figure out something. Or since it's a requested gift and
    they know what they're getting other than the specific style just put
    something fun/festive/holiday-weird-but-appropriate over the solar
    light head.
    That could work, too... :)
    Since then haven't even thought of packaging ideas.
    Unless you want to just get them done and set aside, there's not
    really a rush yet... ;)
    No, but getting there: the Family Christmas is this Saturday (December 14th).

    And now it's already happened... or didn't the weather cooperate after
    all...?

    Autumn is into drawing and I somewhat expect her to continue as her
    mother is artistic, so pens, pencils, coloured pens and pencils,
    supplies, etc., will probably be easy gifts. I have a holder with a
    variety of coloured pens, markers and highlighters -- yes, slightly
    colourblind but I still colour code! Autumn uses those when she
    brings up her sketch pad.
    That's handy, then... :) Even slightly colorblind, you probably
    see the colors as being somewhat different from each other....
    Yes: glancing at the holder there happens to be a pink marker and a
    pink highlighter next to each other: close but definitely different cap colours.

    And as long as the colors are different when used, you'd still be able
    to distinguish between them, I'd guess...

    OK, seems like you've got things checked out and won't need to update.
    Here the TracFones piggyback on Verizon and they are dropping --
    whatever the old is.
    Just as well that my current cellphone is TracFone with AT&T, then...
    the last one was using Verizon....
    The only problem might be if you roam into an area only served by
    Verizon. I'm thinking that's now extremely rare. (Back in my cell
    phone selling days at the store we originally warned our customers
    because the Williamsburg IA area was roaming; no big deal other than
    there is a large shopping center there. For whatever reason the
    original carrier couldn't get an agreement in that area; has been
    taken care of since.)

    It seems that in most areas now the carriers have made agreements to
    service each other's customers, or allow use of their tower for the
    other carrier...

    ...The old Menard's (hardware chain store) here had a tiny food/snack
    section and sold large containers of pretzels which were quite good
    -- almost was worthwhile to make a special trip.
    One can find interesting things in odd places... :)
    Yes - I do like to wander a bit; one never knows what one will find!
    And clearance is fun -- 99% of the time nothing worthwhile but....
    You just never know what you might find when and where... ;)
    True! And sometimes if a sufficiently low price will buy because do
    want, just not want enough at the full/sale price, or can be useful as parts.

    Yup... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Fri Dec 20 11:09:00 2019

    Hi Nancy!


    Like my tagline of days attacking at once, it seems weeks have ganged
    up on him to attack all at once... Sometimes a small project at a
    time just doesn't seem to be accomplishing anything those times...
    Right. Daryl seemed to be overwhelmed by the large project (I have to
    clean the room) so I tried suggesting to take it as a bunch of small
    projects. A dresser drawer may be too small, up to him. Idea was to
    attack the job differently so less overwhelming.
    Sometimes that can help, sometimes not... :) I take it you are able to
    be in ongoing contact with him, then...?
    Yes, Daryl has been e-mailing me. Sometimes he's in pretty good
    spirits, sometimes not, and can change within the e-mail (not too surprising as even through I'm reading as one sitting could be
    interrupted and so done as several time frames).
    I'm glad he still has part of his support network... :) As to
    the change of spirits within an email, it might also be one
    sitting, just having the overwhelm come over midstream....

    Quite possibly: too much in the realization. Could also be over a
    longer period that what appears on the surface: took a
    break/inrterrupted by a phone call and what reads as a few minutes
    passge is in reality a few hours.


    Last issue was the person who was supposed to pick up his late mother's clothes possibly could be backing out; good news is he did find an alternative. And for whatever reason the Little Rock Salvation Army doesn't have a truck to pick up donations; local one to me does, not
    sure about local Goodwill, DAV/Disabled American Veterans does.
    Hope it all gets worked out nicely for him... The donation trucks
    might just be busier this time of year, too... Not sure what we
    have here, haven't needed them....

    Daryl has indicated his centers of choice don't have trucks at all.
    Here I know the Salvation Army, Goodwill and DAV (Disabled American
    Veterans) do, but just because something occurs here doesn't mean it
    occurs elsewhere. And of course vice versa.

    The good news is someone has been able to help him dispose of items.


    If they are boxed, they'd still be not too hard to wrap, though...
    These were sold without cartons. Have seen (and received) boxed solar
    lights.
    So find boxes for them, and make your wrapping easier... or stuff them
    in a large Christmas-themed shopping bag with lots of tissue paper to
    cover them... ;)
    Yes, I'll figure out something. Or since it's a requested gift and
    they know what they're getting other than the specific style just put
    something fun/festive/holiday-weird-but-appropriate over the solar
    light head.
    That could work, too... :)
    Since then haven't even thought of packaging ideas.
    Unless you want to just get them done and set aside, there's not
    really a rush yet... ;)
    No, but getting there: the Family Christmas is this Saturday (December 14th).
    And now it's already happened... or didn't the weather cooperate
    after all...?

    Weather cooperated: cold but not bone-chilling. Dinner came out nicely.
    Minor problem initially with the turkey: had purchased one with the
    pop-out thermometer. Well, the thermometer itself had popped out! More
    looked like never inserted in to the breast but there was a little tear
    in the skin where it seems like it should have gone. Good news was the thermometer was found in the bottom of the overwrap so just stuck it in.

    Oh, as for the wrapping of the solar lights, took some paper towel tubes
    and inserted them over the stake portion. Loosely wrapped gift wrap
    over the top (lighted) portion and twisted and so sort of looked like
    the fancy wrapped Christmas candies.


    Autumn is into drawing and I somewhat expect her to continue as her
    mother is artistic, so pens, pencils, coloured pens and pencils,
    supplies, etc., will probably be easy gifts. I have a holder with a
    variety of coloured pens, markers and highlighters -- yes, slightly
    colourblind but I still colour code! Autumn uses those when she
    brings up her sketch pad.
    That's handy, then... :) Even slightly colorblind, you probably
    see the colors as being somewhat different from each other....
    Yes: glancing at the holder there happens to be a pink marker and a
    pink highlighter next to each other: close but definitely different cap colours.
    And as long as the colors are different when used, you'd still be
    able to distinguish between them, I'd guess...

    Yes, though the missing detail is one set is a marker and the other highlighters. I think when I got the markers they were out of stock of
    the highlighters, plus tired of shopping (five minutes is more than
    enough! <g>) and so got the markers thinking they'd work as
    highlighters. Well, they do highlight on the page but tend to
    obliterate the text! Was thinking of giving them to Autumn but won't:
    keep them up here and when Autumn wants to come up and visit/change of
    scenery she has the coloured markers, highlighters and pens to draw with.


    OK, seems like you've got things checked out and won't need to update.
    Here the TracFones piggyback on Verizon and they are dropping --
    whatever the old is.
    Just as well that my current cellphone is TracFone with AT&T, then...
    the last one was using Verizon....
    The only problem might be if you roam into an area only served by
    Verizon. I'm thinking that's now extremely rare. (Back in my cell
    phone selling days at the store we originally warned our customers
    because the Williamsburg IA area was roaming; no big deal other than
    there is a large shopping center there. For whatever reason the
    original carrier couldn't get an agreement in that area; has been
    taken care of since.)
    It seems that in most areas now the carriers have made agreements
    to service each other's customers, or allow use of their tower
    for the other carrier...

    Yes. I don't know who much roaming occurs now. I sort of figure if I
    need to use the cell phone I need to use it regardless of the
    credits/units being withdrawn. Of course I'm not using the phone just
    to watch videos or listen to music, etc.

    No idea on the tower arrangements now. Know used to be one would get
    good reception on the back deck or front sidewalk so drive along and see
    people pacing along the sidewalk, etc. You might remember last summer a
    tower collapsed on top of a bank building here. (The tower was on the
    roof of the building.) I never heard of whose tower, nor any service interruptions/issues.



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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Sat Dec 28 01:47:34 2019
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 20-Dec-2019 11:09 <=-

    No, but getting there: the Family Christmas is this Saturday (December
    14th).
    And now it's already happened... or didn't the weather cooperate
    after all...?
    Weather cooperated: cold but not bone-chilling. Dinner came out
    nicely. Minor problem initially with the turkey: had purchased one with the pop-out thermometer. Well, the thermometer itself had popped out! More looked like never inserted in to the breast but there was a little tear in the skin where it seems like it should have gone. Good news
    was the thermometer was found in the bottom of the overwrap so just
    stuck it in.

    And, then I suppose, it worked as it was supposed to... :)

    Oh, as for the wrapping of the solar lights, took some paper towel
    tubes and inserted them over the stake portion. Loosely wrapped gift
    wrap over the top (lighted) portion and twisted and so sort of looked
    like the fancy wrapped Christmas candies.

    That worked... :)

    Autumn is into drawing and I somewhat expect her to continue as her
    mother is artistic, so pens, pencils, coloured pens and pencils,
    supplies, etc., will probably be easy gifts. I have a holder with a
    variety of coloured pens, markers and highlighters -- yes, slightly
    colourblind but I still colour code! Autumn uses those when she
    brings up her sketch pad.
    That's handy, then... :) Even slightly colorblind, you probably
    see the colors as being somewhat different from each other....
    Yes: glancing at the holder there happens to be a pink marker and a
    pink highlighter next to each other: close but definitely different
    cap colours.
    And as long as the colors are different when used, you'd still be
    able to distinguish between them, I'd guess...
    Yes, though the missing detail is one set is a marker and the other highlighters. I think when I got the markers they were out of stock
    of the highlighters, plus tired of shopping (five minutes is more than enough! <g>) and so got the markers thinking they'd work as
    highlighters. Well, they do highlight on the page but tend to
    obliterate the text! Was thinking of giving them to Autumn but won't: keep them up here and when Autumn wants to come up and visit/change of scenery she has the coloured markers, highlighters and pens to draw
    with.

    I'd seen that little detail before... yes, markers will act as
    highlighters, but you do need to use thin line, and only underline
    carefully, not cover the entire text... <G>

    The only problem might be if you roam into an area only served by
    Verizon. I'm thinking that's now extremely rare. (Back in my cell
    phone selling days at the store we originally warned our customers
    because the Williamsburg IA area was roaming; no big deal other than
    there is a large shopping center there. For whatever reason the
    original carrier couldn't get an agreement in that area; has been
    taken care of since.)
    It seems that in most areas now the carriers have made agreements
    to service each other's customers, or allow use of their tower
    for the other carrier...
    Yes. I don't know who much roaming occurs now. I sort of figure if I need to use the cell phone I need to use it regardless of the credits/units being withdrawn. Of course I'm not using the phone just
    to watch videos or listen to music, etc.

    I've not seen the difference with "roaming" costs on my phone for
    ages... it's always the same charge of one unit for each minute or
    fraction of for talk and .30 units for each text (with longer texts
    counting as two or three texts)... not usually using data charges which
    are weird on my phone, just roll along the small fractions that add
    up... ;) Using to watch videos or listen to music would have to be
    something actually on the phone and that doesn't take any units, just
    wears down the battery... mine doesn't really access the web....

    No idea on the tower arrangements now. Know used to be one would get
    good reception on the back deck or front sidewalk so drive along and
    see people pacing along the sidewalk, etc. You might remember last
    summer a tower collapsed on top of a bank building here. (The tower
    was on the roof of the building.) I never heard of whose tower, nor
    any service interruptions/issues.

    Dunno as I remember that incident.... but good that there weren't any
    ussues from the one tower collapsing... maybe it was mostly redundent...

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Sun Dec 29 07:39:00 2019

    Hi Nancy!

    Whoa! Must have been some party Friday: only one message uploaded
    Saturday! <g>


    No, but getting there: the Family Christmas is this Saturday (December
    14th).
    And now it's already happened... or didn't the weather cooperate
    after all...?
    Weather cooperated: cold but not bone-chilling. Dinner came out
    nicely. Minor problem initially with the turkey: had purchased one with the pop-out thermometer. Well, the thermometer itself had popped out! More looked like never inserted in to the breast but there was a little tear in the skin where it seems like it should have gone. Good news
    was the thermometer was found in the bottom of the overwrap so just
    stuck it in.
    And, then I suppose, it worked as it was supposed to... :)

    Yes. And the turkey was nice and tender. Rest of the meal came out
    good also. :)


    Oh, as for the wrapping of the solar lights, took some paper towel
    tubes and inserted them over the stake portion. Loosely wrapped gift
    wrap over the top (lighted) portion and twisted and so sort of looked
    like the fancy wrapped Christmas candies.
    That worked... :)

    It did. I'l just have to hold my decorated-paper-plates-as-a-covering
    for some other time.


    And as long as the colors are different when used, you'd still be
    able to distinguish between them, I'd guess...
    Yes, though the missing detail is one set is a marker and the other highlighters. I think when I got the markers they were out of stock
    of the highlighters, plus tired of shopping (five minutes is more than enough! <g>) and so got the markers thinking they'd work as
    highlighters. Well, they do highlight on the page but tend to
    obliterate the text! Was thinking of giving them to Autumn but won't: keep them up here and when Autumn wants to come up and visit/change of scenery she has the coloured markers, highlighters and pens to draw
    with.
    I'd seen that little detail before... yes, markers will act as highlighters, but you do need to use thin line, and only
    underline carefully, not cover the entire text... <G>

    And tend to be not that cautious. I can draw fine lines, under text,
    but then I get in a bit of a hurry as the reading is more important
    than the highlighting. Plus some of the markers bleed through the paper
    so underlining or marking through the wrong text. Better to just do it
    with the right device.


    The only problem might be if you roam into an area only served by
    Verizon. I'm thinking that's now extremely rare. (Back in my cell
    phone selling days at the store we originally warned our customers
    because the Williamsburg IA area was roaming; no big deal other than
    there is a large shopping center there. For whatever reason the
    original carrier couldn't get an agreement in that area; has been
    taken care of since.)
    It seems that in most areas now the carriers have made agreements
    to service each other's customers, or allow use of their tower
    for the other carrier...
    Yes. I don't know who much roaming occurs now. I sort of figure if I need to use the cell phone I need to use it regardless of the credits/units being withdrawn. Of course I'm not using the phone just
    to watch videos or listen to music, etc.
    I've not seen the difference with "roaming" costs on my phone for
    ages... it's always the same charge of one unit for each minute
    or fraction of for talk and .30 units for each text (with longer
    texts counting as two or three texts)... not usually using data
    charges which are weird on my phone, just roll along the small
    fractions that add up... ;) Using to watch videos or listen to
    music would have to be something actually on the phone and that
    doesn't take any units, just wears down the battery... mine
    doesn't really access the web....

    Some time ago I looked at the coverage map for this area and there are
    some places in or around smaller towns where it appears I'd be roaming.
    Oddly quite a few were along small creeks/brooks. That didn't make
    sense as transmission is usually in a circle, so would have appeared as
    dots. Maybe the slightly lower terrain along the water? Don't expect
    to chat while fishing?


    No idea on the tower arrangements now. Know used to be one would get
    good reception on the back deck or front sidewalk so drive along and
    see people pacing along the sidewalk, etc. You might remember last
    summer a tower collapsed on top of a bank building here. (The tower
    was on the roof of the building.) I never heard of whose tower, nor
    any service interruptions/issues.
    Dunno as I remember that incident.... but good that there weren't
    any ussues from the one tower collapsing... maybe it was mostly redundent...

    Or maybe it wasn't a cell tower, or at least not one for public use.



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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to BARRY MARTIN on Tue Dec 31 01:09:00 2019
    Barry,

    Whoa! Must have been some party Friday: only one message uploaded BM>Saturday! <g>

    We're typing more via email than in here...but you can't add graphics
    and pictures in here. :P

    Yes. And the turkey was nice and tender. Rest of the meal came out
    good also. :)

    I've been grazing on the Grand Turkey Club from Arby's at lunch. I
    switched from the potato cakes to the Mozarella Sticks. Add to that a
    large sweet tea, and an apple turnover, and that's enough to last me 24
    hours.

    And tend to be not that cautious. I can draw fine lines, under text,
    but then I get in a bit of a hurry as the reading is more important
    than the highlighting. Plus some of the markers bleed through the paper BM>so underlining or marking through the wrong text. Better to just do it BM>with the right device.

    My hands shake too much from nervous system damage, so I'm not much
    for doing straight lines...with a ruler or otherwise.

    Some time ago I looked at the coverage map for this area and there are BM>some places in or around smaller towns where it appears I'd be roaming. BM>Oddly quite a few were along small creeks/brooks. That didn't make
    sense as transmission is usually in a circle, so would have appeared as BM>dots. Maybe the slightly lower terrain along the water? Don't expect
    to chat while fishing?

    I've got the Enhanced Magenta 55+ plan with T-Mobile. For awhile, I
    thought Straight Talk was the best cellphone plan I had ever had. But,
    T-Mobile has beaten them. They have a special promotion every Tuesday,
    where you can get free items.

    Or maybe it wasn't a cell tower, or at least not one for public use.

    Those are the first things that crash around here in bad weather.

    Daryl


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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Sun Jan 5 01:50:52 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 29-Dec-2019 07:39 <=-

    Whoa! Must have been some party Friday: only one message uploaded Saturday! <g>

    And, as I recall, was actually written the day before... It was less
    that the party was intensive as that it did take up pretty much the
    whole day and evening, and then we had extra things to take care of on Saturday, so no more messages were ready by the time I did that bbs
    run... I'm getting better on the backlog at the moment... we'll see how
    that continues... <G>

    No, but getting there: the Family Christmas is this Saturday (December
    14th).
    And now it's already happened... or didn't the weather cooperate
    after all...?
    Weather cooperated: cold but not bone-chilling. Dinner came out
    nicely. Minor problem initially with the turkey: had purchased one with
    the pop-out thermometer. Well, the thermometer itself had popped out!
    More looked like never inserted in to the breast but there was a little
    tear in the skin where it seems like it should have gone. Good news
    was the thermometer was found in the bottom of the overwrap so just
    stuck it in.
    And, then I suppose, it worked as it was supposed to... :)
    Yes. And the turkey was nice and tender. Rest of the meal came out
    good also. :)

    That's good... :)

    Oh, as for the wrapping of the solar lights, took some paper towel
    tubes and inserted them over the stake portion. Loosely wrapped gift
    wrap over the top (lighted) portion and twisted and so sort of looked
    like the fancy wrapped Christmas candies.
    That worked... :)
    It did. I'l just have to hold my decorated-paper-plates-as-a-covering
    for some other time.

    I'm sure you'll find an appropriate place to use that idea... :)

    And as long as the colors are different when used, you'd still be
    able to distinguish between them, I'd guess...
    Yes, though the missing detail is one set is a marker and the other
    highlighters. I think when I got the markers they were out of stock
    of the highlighters, plus tired of shopping (five minutes is more than
    enough! <g>) and so got the markers thinking they'd work as
    highlighters. Well, they do highlight on the page but tend to
    obliterate the text! Was thinking of giving them to Autumn but won't:
    keep them up here and when Autumn wants to come up and visit/change of
    scenery she has the coloured markers, highlighters and pens to draw
    with.
    I'd seen that little detail before... yes, markers will act as
    highlighters, but you do need to use thin line, and only underline
    carefully, not cover the entire text... <G>
    And tend to be not that cautious. I can draw fine lines, under text,
    but then I get in a bit of a hurry as the reading is more important
    than the highlighting. Plus some of the markers bleed through the
    paper so underlining or marking through the wrong text. Better to just
    do it with the right device.

    True... Makes things much simpler to just use highlighters to highlight,
    as that's what they're designed to do... :)

    Yes. I don't know how much roaming occurs now. I sort of figure if I
    need to use the cell phone I need to use it regardless of the
    credits/units being withdrawn. Of course I'm not using the phone just
    to watch videos or listen to music, etc.
    I've not seen the difference with "roaming" costs on my phone for
    ages... it's always the same charge of one unit for each minute or
    fraction of for talk and .30 units for each text (with longer texts
    counting as two or three texts)... not usually using data charges
    which are weird on my phone, just roll along the small fractions that
    add up... ;) Using to watch videos or listen to music would have to
    be something actually on the phone and that doesn't take any units,
    just wears down the battery... mine doesn't really access the web....
    Some time ago I looked at the coverage map for this area and there are some places in or around smaller towns where it appears I'd be
    roaming. Oddly quite a few were along small creeks/brooks. That didn't make sense as transmission is usually in a circle, so would have
    appeared as dots. Maybe the slightly lower terrain along the water? Don't expect to chat while fishing?

    I'd guess those would be places where the signal wouldn't be strong
    enough to be usable... maybe because of being slightly lower, maybe some
    other reasons....

    No idea on the tower arrangements now. Know used to be one would get
    good reception on the back deck or front sidewalk so drive along and
    see people pacing along the sidewalk, etc. You might remember last
    summer a tower collapsed on top of a bank building here. (The tower
    was on the roof of the building.) I never heard of whose tower, nor
    any service interruptions/issues.
    Dunno as I remember that incident.... but good that there weren't any
    issues from the one tower collapsing... maybe it was mostly redundant.
    Or maybe it wasn't a cell tower, or at least not one for public use.

    Also possible.... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Sun Jan 5 09:44:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    Whoa! Must have been some party Friday: only one message uploaded Saturday! <g>
    And, as I recall, was actually written the day before... It was
    less that the party was intensive as that it did take up pretty
    much the whole day and evening, and then we had extra things to
    take care of on Saturday, so no more messages were ready by the
    time I did that bbs run... I'm getting better on the backlog at
    the moment... we'll see how that continues... <G>

    As long as you didn't make it a New Year Resolution you'll be fine!



    Oh, as for the wrapping of the solar lights, took some paper towel
    tubes and inserted them over the stake portion. Loosely wrapped gift
    wrap over the top (lighted) portion and twisted and so sort of looked
    like the fancy wrapped Christmas candies.
    That worked... :)
    It did. I'l just have to hold my decorated-paper-plates-as-a-covering
    for some other time.
    I'm sure you'll find an appropriate place to use that idea... :)

    Eventually. Paper plates is probably better for something skinnier.



    And as long as the colors are different when used, you'd still be
    able to distinguish between them, I'd guess...
    Yes, though the missing detail is one set is a marker and the other
    highlighters. I think when I got the markers they were out of stock
    of the highlighters, plus tired of shopping (five minutes is more than
    enough! <g>) and so got the markers thinking they'd work as
    highlighters. Well, they do highlight on the page but tend to
    obliterate the text! Was thinking of giving them to Autumn but won't:
    keep them up here and when Autumn wants to come up and visit/change of
    scenery she has the coloured markers, highlighters and pens to draw
    with.
    I'd seen that little detail before... yes, markers will act as
    highlighters, but you do need to use thin line, and only underline
    carefully, not cover the entire text... <G>
    And tend to be not that cautious. I can draw fine lines, under text,
    but then I get in a bit of a hurry as the reading is more important
    than the highlighting. Plus some of the markers bleed through the
    paper so underlining or marking through the wrong text. Better to just
    do it with the right device.
    True... Makes things much simpler to just use highlighters to
    highlight, as that's what they're designed to do... :)

    Right, which is probably why I didn't use the markers for much more than
    a star in the margin or title/'tag' at the top. LIS Autumn likes them
    so fine with me.


    Yes. I don't know how much roaming occurs now. I sort of figure if I
    need to use the cell phone I need to use it regardless of the
    credits/units being withdrawn. Of course I'm not using the phone just
    to watch videos or listen to music, etc.
    I've not seen the difference with "roaming" costs on my phone for
    ages... it's always the same charge of one unit for each minute or
    fraction of for talk and .30 units for each text (with longer texts
    counting as two or three texts)... not usually using data charges
    which are weird on my phone, just roll along the small fractions that
    add up... ;) Using to watch videos or listen to music would have to
    be something actually on the phone and that doesn't take any units,
    just wears down the battery... mine doesn't really access the web....
    Some time ago I looked at the coverage map for this area and there are some places in or around smaller towns where it appears I'd be
    roaming. Oddly quite a few were along small creeks/brooks. That didn't make sense as transmission is usually in a circle, so would have
    appeared as dots. Maybe the slightly lower terrain along the water?
    Don't expect to chat while fishing?
    I'd guess those would be places where the signal wouldn't be
    strong enough to be usable... maybe because of being slightly
    lower, maybe some other reasons....

    I'm thinking local topography: radio signal wouldn't travel through a
    boulder, the waterway is recessed and the radio signals travel over. Essentially the same as what you suggested, and the same reasons as why
    used to (maybe still currently) one needed to talk outside or could
    connect on one sode of the house but not the other.




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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to BARRY MARTIN on Tue Jan 7 00:53:00 2020
    Barry,

    As long as you didn't make it a New Year Resolution you'll be fine!

    I don't make Resolutions...then, I have none to break. <G>

    Eventually. Paper plates is probably better for something skinnier.

    But, the amount of food you can put on them varies by the strength of
    the plate.

    Daryl


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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Wed Jan 8 10:06:00 2020

    Hi Daryl!

    As long as you didn't make it a New Year Resolution you'll be fine!
    I don't make Resolutions...then, I have none to break. <G>

    Was that a New Year's Resolution not to have any New Year Resolutions?!


    Eventually. Paper plates is probably better for something skinnier.
    But, the amount of food you can put on them varies by the
    strength of the plate.

    I don't think the plates are going to be re-used after being used as
    wrapping paper. Or at least I hope not!


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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to BARRY MARTIN on Fri Jan 10 14:40:00 2020
    Barry,

    As long as you didn't make it a New Year Resolution you'll be fine!
    I don't make Resolutions...then, I have none to break. <G>

    Was that a New Year's Resolution not to have any New Year Resolutions?!

    Never mind the Resolutions door done by Sysop Sean Dennis (Cheepware).
    :P

    I don't think the plates are going to be re-used after being used as BM>wrapping paper. Or at least I hope not!

    That's inviting insects galore.

    ... A bridal veil should not be used as a fly deterrent.

    Never mind mosquito netting.

    Daryl

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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Mon Jan 13 02:08:10 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 05-Jan-2020 09:44 <=-

    Whoa! Must have been some party Friday: only one message uploaded
    Saturday! <g>
    And, as I recall, was actually written the day before... It was less
    that the party was intensive as that it did take up pretty much the
    whole day and evening, and then we had extra things to take care of
    on Saturday, so no more messages were ready by the time I did that
    bbs run... I'm getting better on the backlog at the moment... we'll
    see how that continues... <G>
    As long as you didn't make it a New Year Resolution you'll be fine!

    I don't make any New Year's Resolutions any more.... that way, I don't
    have to worry about breaking them... ;) About a week behind now...
    might make some headway if Life doesn't get too busy on me... ;)

    Oh, as for the wrapping of the solar lights, took some paper towel
    tubes and inserted them over the stake portion. Loosely wrapped gift
    wrap over the top (lighted) portion and twisted and so sort of looked
    like the fancy wrapped Christmas candies.
    That worked... :)
    It did. I'l just have to hold my decorated-paper-plates-as-a-covering
    for some other time.
    I'm sure you'll find an appropriate place to use that idea... :)
    Eventually. Paper plates is probably better for something skinnier.

    Or for decorating... ;)

    and so got the markers thinking they'd work as highlighters. Well,
    they do highlight on the page but tend to obliterate the text! Was
    thinking of giving them to Autumn but won't: keep them up here and
    when Autumn wants to come up and visit/change of scenery she has the
    coloured markers, highlighters and pens to draw with.
    I'd seen that little detail before... yes, markers will act as
    highlighters, but you do need to use thin line, and only underline
    carefully, not cover the entire text... <G>
    And tend to be not that cautious. I can draw fine lines, under text,
    but then I get in a bit of a hurry as the reading is more important
    than the highlighting. Plus some of the markers bleed through the
    paper so underlining or marking through the wrong text. Better to just
    do it with the right device.
    True... Makes things much simpler to just use highlighters to
    highlight, as that's what they're designed to do... :)
    Right, which is probably why I didn't use the markers for much more
    than a star in the margin or title/'tag' at the top. LIS Autumn likes them so fine with me.

    Yup. :)

    Some time ago I looked at the coverage map for this area and there are
    some places in or around smaller towns where it appears I'd be
    roaming. Oddly quite a few were along small creeks/brooks. That didn't
    make sense as transmission is usually in a circle, so would have
    appeared as dots. Maybe the slightly lower terrain along the water?
    Don't expect to chat while fishing?
    I'd guess those would be places where the signal wouldn't be strong
    enough to be usable... maybe because of being slightly lower, maybe
    some other reasons....
    I'm thinking local topography: radio signal wouldn't travel through a boulder, the waterway is recessed and the radio signals travel over. Essentially the same as what you suggested, and the same reasons as
    why used to (maybe still currently) one needed to talk outside or could connect on one sode of the house but not the other.

    Quite probably... :) My sister has issues with phone signal in her
    house still... has to go outside to use the cell phone... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Sun Jan 12 17:14:00 2020

    Hi Daryl!

    As long as you didn't make it a New Year Resolution you'll be fine!
    I don't make Resolutions...then, I have none to break. <G>
    Was that a New Year's Resolution not to have any New Year Resolutions?!
    Never mind the Resolutions door done by Sysop Sean Dennis
    (Cheepware). :P

    Did he made a resolution to resolutely avoid making resolutions?!



    I don't think the plates are going to be re-used after being used as
    wrapping paper. Or at least I hope not!
    That's inviting insects galore.

    Termites as they're paper plates?



    ... A bridal veil should not be used as a fly deterrent.
    Never mind mosquito netting.

    Thats not long curls in her hair, that's fly paper!!


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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Mon Jan 13 08:11:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    Whoa! Must have been some party Friday: only one message uploaded
    Saturday! <g>
    And, as I recall, was actually written the day before... It was less
    that the party was intensive as that it did take up pretty much the
    whole day and evening, and then we had extra things to take care of
    on Saturday, so no more messages were ready by the time I did that
    bbs run... I'm getting better on the backlog at the moment... we'll
    see how that continues... <G>
    As long as you didn't make it a New Year Resolution you'll be fine!
    I don't make any New Year's Resolutions any more.... that way, I
    don't have to worry about breaking them... ;) About a week
    behind now... might make some headway if Life doesn't get too
    busy on me... ;)

    I haven't either for the past several years. Goal-setting is a good
    thing, just seems better to do on a daily basis.


    Oh, as for the wrapping of the solar lights, took some paper towel
    tubes and inserted them over the stake portion. Loosely wrapped gift
    wrap over the top (lighted) portion and twisted and so sort of looked
    like the fancy wrapped Christmas candies.
    That worked... :)
    It did. I'l just have to hold my decorated-paper-plates-as-a-covering
    for some other time.
    I'm sure you'll find an appropriate place to use that idea... :)
    Eventually. Paper plates is probably better for something skinnier.
    Or for decorating... ;)

    Or as coasters to protect items from scratching tables, etc.!



    than the highlighting. Plus some of the markers bleed through the
    paper so underlining or marking through the wrong text. Better to just
    do it with the right device.
    True... Makes things much simpler to just use highlighters to
    highlight, as that's what they're designed to do... :)
    Right, which is probably why I didn't use the markers for much more
    than a star in the margin or title/'tag' at the top. LIS Autumn likes them so fine with me.
    Yup. :)

    Went to use one the other day to make a reminder sign: Autumn had
    smooched the tip a bit so no longer pointed but blunted. Good enough
    for what I needed. She'll eventually learn to not apply as much
    pressure.


    Some time ago I looked at the coverage map for this area and there are
    some places in or around smaller towns where it appears I'd be
    roaming. Oddly quite a few were along small creeks/brooks. That didn't
    make sense as transmission is usually in a circle, so would have
    appeared as dots. Maybe the slightly lower terrain along the water?
    Don't expect to chat while fishing?
    I'd guess those would be places where the signal wouldn't be strong
    enough to be usable... maybe because of being slightly lower, maybe
    some other reasons....
    I'm thinking local topography: radio signal wouldn't travel through a boulder, the waterway is recessed and the radio signals travel over. Essentially the same as what you suggested, and the same reasons as
    why used to (maybe still currently) one needed to talk outside or could connect on one sode of the house but not the other.
    Quite probably... :) My sister has issues with phone signal in
    her house still... has to go outside to use the cell phone... :)

    If she has a dog wonder is he gets confused? Your sister: "I'm going to
    go outside to make a call." Dog, perking up at 'outside':
    wag-wag-wag-wag!!




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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to BARRY MARTIN on Tue Jan 14 12:13:00 2020
    Barry,

    Never mind the Resolutions door done by Sysop Sean Dennis (Cheepware). :P

    Did he made a resolution to resolutely avoid making resolutions?!

    As a fellow ham radio operator noted "If I don't make them, I don't
    break them". Works for me.

    I don't think the plates are going to be re-used after being used as BM>wrapping paper. Or at least I hope not!
    That's inviting insects galore.

    Termites as they're paper plates?

    There goes my appetite.

    There was a commercial for Adams Pest Control, a local area company,
    done years ago. There were creatures known as "karate chopping
    termites", with their leader named "Chester T. Overbite".

    The guy marvels that "these guys are impressive...they could wipe out
    a house!!", and that's what the termites wanted to hear. After the
    KEE-YAH'ed the house, and the guy asks "Is there no defense for this??",
    the announcer says "Sure, there is. Adams Pest Control can deal with any
    pest. Even karate chopping termites".

    Then, you hear KEE-YAH, and the guy replies "Go KEE-YAH yourself"!!


    ... A bridal veil should not be used as a fly deterrent.
    Never mind mosquito netting.

    Thats not long curls in her hair, that's fly paper!!

    If flies are attracted to her, she must really stink.

    Daryl


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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to BARRY MARTIN on Tue Jan 14 12:25:00 2020
    Barry,

    If she has a dog wonder is he gets confused? Your sister: "I'm going to BM>go outside to make a call." Dog, perking up at 'outside': BM>wag-wag-wag-wag!!

    Other words such as "walk" and "leash"...they know!!

    Daryl


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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Wed Jan 15 08:11:00 2020

    Hi Daryl!

    Never mind the Resolutions door done by Sysop Sean Dennis (Cheepware). :P
    Did he made a resolution to resolutely avoid making resolutions?!
    As a fellow ham radio operator noted "If I don't make them, I
    don't break them". Works for me.

    100% compliance!!


    I don't think the plates are going to be re-used after being used as BM>wrapping paper. Or at least I hope not!
    That's inviting insects galore.
    Termites as they're paper plates?
    There goes my appetite.

    Good source of protein and fiber!!



    There was a commercial for Adams Pest Control, a local area
    company, done years ago. There were creatures known as "karate
    chopping termites", with their leader named "Chester T.
    Overbite".
    The guy marvels that "these guys are impressive...they could
    wipe out a house!!", and that's what the termites wanted to hear.
    After the KEE-YAH'ed the house, and the guy asks "Is there no
    defense for this??", the announcer says "Sure, there is. Adams
    Pest Control can deal with any pest. Even karate chopping
    termites".
    Then, you hear KEE-YAH, and the guy replies "Go KEE-YAH
    yourself"!! <G>

    <laff> That one I might watch a few times because of the entertainment.
    Most commercials now are borrrrrr-rinnnggg.



    ... A bridal veil should not be used as a fly deterrent.
    Never mind mosquito netting.
    Thats not long curls in her hair, that's fly paper!!
    If flies are attracted to her, she must really stink.

    At least something liked her for as she was!


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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Daryl Stout on Wed Jan 15 08:11:00 2020

    Hi Daryl!

    If she has a dog wonder is he gets confused? Your sister: "I'm going to
    go outside to make a call." Dog, perking up at 'outside':
    wag-wag-wag-wag!!
    Other words such as "walk" and "leash"...they know!!

    And 'dinner"!


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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Tue Jan 21 02:22:36 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 13-Jan-2020 08:11 <=-

    I'm getting better on the backlog at the moment... we'll see how that
    continues... <G>
    As long as you didn't make it a New Year Resolution you'll be fine!
    I don't make any New Year's Resolutions any more.... that way, I don't
    have to worry about breaking them... ;) About a week behind now...
    might make some headway if Life doesn't get too busy on me... ;)
    I haven't either for the past several years. Goal-setting is a good thing, just seems better to do on a daily basis.

    The only resolve I have (renewed regularly) is to do the best I can with
    what I have to do... ;) I see I still am running about a week behind...
    but I'm not going to stress over it... :)

    Oh, as for the wrapping of the solar lights, took some paper towel
    tubes and inserted them over the stake portion. Loosely wrapped gift
    wrap over the top (lighted) portion and twisted and so sort of looked
    like the fancy wrapped Christmas candies.
    That worked... :)
    It did. I'l just have to hold my decorated-paper-plates-as-a-covering
    for some other time.
    I'm sure you'll find an appropriate place to use that idea... :)
    Eventually. Paper plates is probably better for something skinnier.
    Or for decorating... ;)
    Or as coasters to protect items from scratching tables, etc.!

    That could work too.... ;)

    True... Makes things much simpler to just use highlighters to
    highlight, as that's what they're designed to do... :)
    Right, which is probably why I didn't use the markers for much more
    than a star in the margin or title/'tag' at the top. LIS Autumn likes
    them so fine with me.
    Yup. :)
    Went to use one the other day to make a reminder sign: Autumn had
    smooched the tip a bit so no longer pointed but blunted. Good enough
    for what I needed. She'll eventually learn to not apply as much
    pressure.

    Yup... it takes practice to learn the fine points... ;)

    I'd guess those would be places where the signal wouldn't be strong
    enough to be usable... maybe because of being slightly lower, maybe
    some other reasons....
    I'm thinking local topography: radio signal wouldn't travel through a
    boulder, the waterway is recessed and the radio signals travel over.
    Essentially the same as what you suggested, and the same reasons as
    why used to (maybe still currently) one needed to talk outside or could
    connect on one sode of the house but not the other.
    Quite probably... :) My sister has issues with phone signal in her
    house still... has to go outside to use the cell phone... :)
    If she has a dog wonder if he gets confused? Your sister: "I'm going
    to go outside to make a call." Dog, perking up at 'outside': wag-wag-wag-wag!!

    No dog... just as well... ;)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Tue Jan 21 08:55:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    I'm getting better on the backlog at the moment... we'll see how that
    continues... <G>
    As long as you didn't make it a New Year Resolution you'll be fine!
    I don't make any New Year's Resolutions any more.... that way, I don't
    have to worry about breaking them... ;) About a week behind now...
    might make some headway if Life doesn't get too busy on me... ;)
    I haven't either for the past several years. Goal-setting is a good thing, just seems better to do on a daily basis.
    The only resolve I have (renewed regularly) is to do the best I
    can with what I have to do... ;) I see I still am running about
    a week behind... but I'm not going to stress over it... :)

    Sounds like a good resolution to me! Things will 'get in the way' of
    our plans. And LISB4, "running behind" on e-mail isn't a big deal.
    Well, for work and family might be a good idea to keep current!



    True... Makes things much simpler to just use highlighters to
    highlight, as that's what they're designed to do... :)
    Right, which is probably why I didn't use the markers for much more
    than a star in the margin or title/'tag' at the top. LIS Autumn likes
    them so fine with me.
    Yup. :)
    Went to use one the other day to make a reminder sign: Autumn had
    smooched the tip a bit so no longer pointed but blunted. Good enough
    for what I needed. She'll eventually learn to not apply as much
    pressure.
    Yup... it takes practice to learn the fine points... ;)

    Which is why I didn't let her colour with a certain set!



    I'd guess those would be places where the signal wouldn't be strong
    enough to be usable... maybe because of being slightly lower, maybe
    some other reasons....
    I'm thinking local topography: radio signal wouldn't travel through a
    boulder, the waterway is recessed and the radio signals travel over.
    Essentially the same as what you suggested, and the same reasons as
    why used to (maybe still currently) one needed to talk outside or could
    connect on one sode of the house but not the other.
    Quite probably... :) My sister has issues with phone signal in her
    house still... has to go outside to use the cell phone... :)
    If she has a dog wonder if he gets confused? Your sister: "I'm going
    to go outside to make a call." Dog, perking up at 'outside': wag-wag-wag-wag!!
    No dog... just as well... ;)

    When the weather outside is nasty especially so!



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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Wed Jan 29 01:05:44 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 21-Jan-2020 08:55 <=-

    I don't make any New Year's Resolutions any more.... that way, I don't
    have to worry about breaking them... ;) About a week behind now...
    might make some headway if Life doesn't get too busy on me... ;)
    I haven't either for the past several years. Goal-setting is a good
    thing, just seems better to do on a daily basis.
    The only resolve I have (renewed regularly) is to do the best I can
    with what I have to do... ;) I see I still am running about a week
    behind... but I'm not going to stress over it... :)
    Sounds like a good resolution to me! Things will 'get in the way' of
    our plans. And LISB4, "running behind" on e-mail isn't a big deal.
    Well, for work and family might be a good idea to keep current!

    Yup... fortunately don't have much email for work or family... the
    occasional counseling email that needs attending to fairly quickly, but generally things can ride.... :) And, I still am running about a week
    behind on echo mail.... probably will be for a while, yet... Hoping not
    to slip too much from that, though.... ;)

    True... Makes things much simpler to just use highlighters to
    highlight, as that's what they're designed to do... :)
    Right, which is probably why I didn't use the markers for much more
    than a star in the margin or title/'tag' at the top. LIS Autumn likes
    them so fine with me.
    Yup. :)
    Went to use one the other day to make a reminder sign: Autumn had
    smooched the tip a bit so no longer pointed but blunted. Good enough
    for what I needed. She'll eventually learn to not apply as much
    pressure.
    Yup... it takes practice to learn the fine points... ;)
    Which is why I didn't let her colour with a certain set!

    Good thinking... ;)

    Essentially the same as what you suggested, and the same reasons as
    why used to (maybe still currently) one needed to talk outside or could
    connect on one sode of the house but not the other.
    Quite probably... :) My sister has issues with phone signal in her
    house still... has to go outside to use the cell phone... :)
    If she has a dog wonder if he gets confused? Your sister: "I'm going
    to go outside to make a call." Dog, perking up at 'outside':
    wag-wag-wag-wag!!
    No dog... just as well... ;)
    When the weather outside is nasty especially so!

    Indeed....!!

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Wed Jan 29 08:42:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    I don't make any New Year's Resolutions any more.... that way, I don't
    have to worry about breaking them... ;) About a week behind now...
    might make some headway if Life doesn't get too busy on me... ;)
    I haven't either for the past several years. Goal-setting is a good
    thing, just seems better to do on a daily basis.
    The only resolve I have (renewed regularly) is to do the best I can
    with what I have to do... ;) I see I still am running about a week
    behind... but I'm not going to stress over it... :)
    Sounds like a good resolution to me! Things will 'get in the way' of
    our plans. And LISB4, "running behind" on e-mail isn't a big deal.
    Well, for work and family might be a good idea to keep current!
    Yup... fortunately don't have much email for work or family...
    the occasional counseling email that needs attending to fairly
    quickly, but generally things can ride.... :) And, I still am
    running about a week behind on echo mail.... probably will be
    for a while, yet... Hoping not to slip too much from that,
    though.... ;)

    Note to everyone: answer Nancy with short replies so she can get
    caught up! <g>

    I generally do the BBS e-mail first thing in the morning as is the most
    typing, plus the other (done via Thunderbird) generally is not of
    urgency; if I am expecting something will check, reply, and then let the
    rest wait until later in the day. And of course the whole thing depends
    on one's schedule and preferences.


    True... Makes things much simpler to just use highlighters to
    highlight, as that's what they're designed to do... :)
    Right, which is probably why I didn't use the markers for much more
    than a star in the margin or title/'tag' at the top. LIS Autumn likes
    them so fine with me.
    Yup. :)
    Went to use one the other day to make a reminder sign: Autumn had
    smooched the tip a bit so no longer pointed but blunted. Good enough
    for what I needed. She'll eventually learn to not apply as much
    pressure.
    Yup... it takes practice to learn the fine points... ;)
    Which is why I didn't let her colour with a certain set!
    Good thinking... ;)

    Once in a while. :)


    Essentially the same as what you suggested, and the same reasons as
    why used to (maybe still currently) one needed to talk outside or could
    connect on one side of the house but not the other.
    Quite probably... :) My sister has issues with phone signal in her
    house still... has to go outside to use the cell phone... :)
    If she has a dog wonder if he gets confused? Your sister: "I'm going
    to go outside to make a call." Dog, perking up at 'outside':
    wag-wag-wag-wag!!
    No dog... just as well... ;)
    When the weather outside is nasty especially so!
    Indeed....!!

    Years ago when I did did have a dog (adult, adopted from the humane
    society) I did use some hyphenated commands like "outside-bathroom". It
    had dawned on me relatively early after adoption she could get confused
    from whomever had her previously and the way we talk. "I'm going
    outside" doesn't mean I'm going to the bathroom.


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  • From Daryl Stout@454:1/33 to BARRY MARTIN on Fri Jan 31 00:50:00 2020
    Barry,

    Note to everyone: answer Nancy with short replies so she can get
    caught up! <g>

    Is there a limit on the number of replies?? Or will a fat packet crash
    her reader?? :P

    I generally do the BBS e-mail first thing in the morning as is the most BM>typing, plus the other (done via Thunderbird) generally is not of BM>urgency; if I am expecting something will check, reply, and then let the BM>rest wait until later in the day. And of course the whole thing depends BM>on one's schedule and preferences.

    Doing that now...just after midnight...as I was doing other computer
    work, and decided to knock out the messages.

    Years ago when I did did have a dog (adult, adopted from the humane BM>society) I did use some hyphenated commands like "outside-bathroom". It BM>had dawned on me relatively early after adoption she could get confused BM>from whomever had her previously and the way we talk. "I'm going BM>outside" doesn't mean I'm going to the bathroom.

    The dogs I had knew what "walk" and "leash" meant.

    Daryl

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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Mon Feb 3 03:00:18 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 29-Jan-2020 08:42 <=-

    The only resolve I have (renewed regularly) is to do the best I can
    with what I have to do... ;) I see I still am running about a week
    behind... but I'm not going to stress over it... :)
    Sounds like a good resolution to me! Things will 'get in the way' of
    our plans. And LISB4, "running behind" on e-mail isn't a big deal.
    Well, for work and family might be a good idea to keep current!
    Yup... fortunately don't have much email for work or family... the
    occasional counseling email that needs attending to fairly quickly,
    but generally things can ride.... :) And, I still am running about
    a week behind on echo mail.... probably will be for a while, yet...
    Hoping not to slip too much from that, though.... ;)
    Note to everyone: answer Nancy with short replies so she can get
    caught up! <g>

    You are generally the worst offender... <G> Also I try not to do too
    many messages in one days packet anyway.... ;)

    I generally do the BBS e-mail first thing in the morning as is the
    most typing, plus the other (done via Thunderbird) generally is not of urgency; if I am expecting something will check, reply, and then let
    the rest wait until later in the day. And of course the whole thing depends on one's schedule and preferences.

    And for me, it also can depend on how alert the brain is being at the
    moment... sometimes mornings are better, sometimes not.... ;)

    Quite probably... :) My sister has issues with phone signal in her
    house still... has to go outside to use the cell phone... :)
    If she has a dog wonder if he gets confused? Your sister: "I'm going
    to go outside to make a call." Dog, perking up at 'outside':
    wag-wag-wag-wag!!
    No dog... just as well... ;)
    When the weather outside is nasty especially so!
    Indeed....!!
    Years ago when I did did have a dog (adult, adopted from the humane society) I did use some hyphenated commands like "outside-bathroom".
    It had dawned on me relatively early after adoption she could get
    confused from whomever had her previously and the way we talk. "I'm
    going outside" doesn't mean I'm going to the bathroom.

    Fortunately most dogs and cats are intelligent enough to be able to
    learn how to deal with new situations like that.... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Mon Feb 3 19:48:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    The only resolve I have (renewed regularly) is to do the best I can
    with what I have to do... ;) I see I still am running about a week
    behind... but I'm not going to stress over it... :)
    Sounds like a good resolution to me! Things will 'get in the way' of
    our plans. And LISB4, "running behind" on e-mail isn't a big deal.
    Well, for work and family might be a good idea to keep current!
    Yup... fortunately don't have much email for work or family... the
    occasional counseling email that needs attending to fairly quickly,
    but generally things can ride.... :) And, I still am running about
    a week behind on echo mail.... probably will be for a while, yet...
    Hoping not to slip too much from that, though.... ;)
    Note to everyone: answer Nancy with short replies so she can get
    caught up! <g>
    You are generally the worst offender... <G> Also I try not to do
    too many messages in one days packet anyway.... ;)

    Well the good news is there are things I could be worse (or is that
    better?) at! <g>


    I generally do the BBS e-mail first thing in the morning as is the
    most typing, plus the other (done via Thunderbird) generally is not of urgency; if I am expecting something will check, reply, and then let
    the rest wait until later in the day. And of course the whole thing depends on one's schedule and preferences.
    And for me, it also can depend on how alert the brain is being at
    the moment... sometimes mornings are better, sometimes not.... ;)

    Just what we need: more lerts! Yes, sometimes the brain just isn't into something, though I wil ladmit to what sometimes seems like
    procrastination, dragging one's heels, and the like is sometimes
    because something isn't right in the overall scheme of things.
    Universe say 'ugh-ugh'. And sometimes it is just wanting to sit on
    one's rump and not do anything.



    Quite probably... :) My sister has issues with phone signal in her
    house still... has to go outside to use the cell phone... :)
    If she has a dog wonder if he gets confused? Your sister: "I'm going
    to go outside to make a call." Dog, perking up at 'outside':
    wag-wag-wag-wag!!
    No dog... just as well... ;)
    When the weather outside is nasty especially so!
    Indeed....!!
    Years ago when I did did have a dog (adult, adopted from the humane society) I did use some hyphenated commands like "outside-bathroom".
    It had dawned on me relatively early after adoption she could get
    confused from whomever had her previously and the way we talk. "I'm
    going outside" doesn't mean I'm going to the bathroom.
    Fortunately most dogs and cats are intelligent enough to be able
    to learn how to deal with new situations like that.... :)

    We didn't have any issues. She had some fear/concern/confusion
    initially -- we had been told she had been abused by her previous owner
    but other than than pretty much no history. And yes, I'm quite sure she
    didn't understand why she was in a shelter and then going for a ride
    with New People -- and staying at New House?? Yes, I'd be confused too! ...Poor thing had to stay in the basement the first few nights: we
    weren't sure if she was properly housebroken or would 'react badly'. I
    did go down and check on her -- "warned" her I was coming so she wouldn't
    be frightened.

    ttyl neb

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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Thu Feb 6 21:39:40 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 03-Feb-2020 19:48 <=-

    Yup... fortunately don't have much email for work or family... the
    occasional counseling email that needs attending to fairly quickly,
    but generally things can ride.... :) And, I still am running about
    a week behind on echo mail.... probably will be for a while, yet...
    Hoping not to slip too much from that, though.... ;)
    Note to everyone: answer Nancy with short replies so she can get
    caught up! <g>
    You are generally the worst offender... <G> Also I try not to do
    too many messages in one days packet anyway.... ;)
    Well the good news is there are things I could be worse (or is that better?) at! <g>

    True... <G> And I seem to be slowing getting a little closer... ;)

    I generally do the BBS e-mail first thing in the morning as is the
    most typing, plus the other (done via Thunderbird) generally is not of
    urgency; if I am expecting something will check, reply, and then let
    the rest wait until later in the day. And of course the whole thing
    depends on one's schedule and preferences.
    And for me, it also can depend on how alert the brain is being at
    the moment... sometimes mornings are better, sometimes not.... ;)
    Just what we need: more lerts! Yes, sometimes the brain just isn't
    into something, though I will admit to what sometimes seems like procrastination, dragging one's heels, and the like is sometimes
    because something isn't right in the overall scheme of things.
    Universe say 'ugh-ugh'. And sometimes it is just wanting to sit on
    one's rump and not do anything.

    But there are days when that's exactly what is needed, to not do
    anything, and give the body a chance to recharge... :)

    Years ago when I did did have a dog (adult, adopted from the humane
    society) I did use some hyphenated commands like "outside-bathroom".
    It had dawned on me relatively early after adoption she could get
    confused from whomever had her previously and the way we talk. "I'm
    going outside" doesn't mean I'm going to the bathroom.
    Fortunately most dogs and cats are intelligent enough to be able to
    learn how to deal with new situations like that.... :)
    We didn't have any issues. She had some fear/concern/confusion
    initially -- we had been told she had been abused by her previous
    owner but other than than pretty much no history. And yes, I'm quite
    sure she didn't understand why she was in a shelter and then going for
    a ride with New People -- and staying at New House?? Yes, I'd be
    confused too!

    Animals that have been abused, or had other trauma, generally do respond
    well to gentle loving care by new owners... She might well have had at
    least an inkling from the start that things would be better now... :)

    ...Poor thing had to stay in the basement the first few nights: we
    weren't sure if she was properly housebroken or would 'react badly'.
    I did go down and check on her -- "warned" her I was coming so
    she wouldn't be frightened.

    Better safe than sorry, and I'm sure she responded well to your tone of
    voice, which I'm sure was reassuring... :) And after the first few
    nights, you could let her check out the rest of the house and settle
    in.... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Fri Feb 7 08:57:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!


    I generally do the BBS e-mail first thing in the morning as is the
    most typing, plus the other (done via Thunderbird) generally is not of
    urgency; if I am expecting something will check, reply, and then let
    the rest wait until later in the day. And of course the whole thing
    depends on one's schedule and preferences.
    And for me, it also can depend on how alert the brain is being at
    the moment... sometimes mornings are better, sometimes not.... ;)
    Just what we need: more lerts! Yes, sometimes the brain just isn't
    into something, though I will admit to what sometimes seems like procrastination, dragging one's heels, and the like is sometimes
    because something isn't right in the overall scheme of things.
    Universe say 'ugh-ugh'. And sometimes it is just wanting to sit on
    one's rump and not do anything.
    But there are days when that's exactly what is needed, to not do
    anything, and give the body a chance to recharge... :)

    Agree. Some things are urgent and need to be done _now_; most not so
    urgent. And for me sometimes those breaks are when ideas percolate
    through.


    Years ago when I did did have a dog (adult, adopted from the humane
    society) I did use some hyphenated commands like "outside-bathroom".
    It had dawned on me relatively early after adoption she could get
    confused from whomever had her previously and the way we talk. "I'm
    going outside" doesn't mean I'm going to the bathroom.
    Fortunately most dogs and cats are intelligent enough to be able to
    learn how to deal with new situations like that.... :)
    We didn't have any issues. She had some fear/concern/confusion
    initially -- we had been told she had been abused by her previous
    owner but other than than pretty much no history. And yes, I'm quite
    sure she didn't understand why she was in a shelter and then going for
    a ride with New People -- and staying at New House?? Yes, I'd be
    confused too!
    Animals that have been abused, or had other trauma, generally do
    respond well to gentle loving care by new owners... She might
    well have had at least an inkling from the start that things
    would be better now... :)

    Seems so. :) In the car on the trip from the shelter to home (I wasn't driving) she just laid on my lap: alert as not quite sure what she was
    getting herself in to but otherwise relaxed and maybe even thankful as
    it seemed things were going to be OK now.


    ...Poor thing had to stay in the basement the first few nights: we
    weren't sure if she was properly housebroken or would 'react badly'.
    I did go down and check on her -- "warned" her I was coming so
    she wouldn't be frightened.
    Better safe than sorry, and I'm sure she responded well to your
    tone of voice, which I'm sure was reassuring... :) And after the
    first few nights, you could let her check out the rest of the
    house and settle in.... :)

    Yes: strange noises in a strange place. I had plugged a night light in
    the outlet at the workbench so she could see her immediate surroundings
    - to me seemed would be less scary for her. No accidents; a couple of
    days later she did get moved upstairs into what was then my Computer
    Room.


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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Fri Feb 14 01:14:32 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 07-Feb-2020 08:57 <=-

    And for me, it also can depend on how alert the brain is being at
    the moment... sometimes mornings are better, sometimes not.... ;)
    Just what we need: more lerts! Yes, sometimes the brain just isn't
    into something, though I will admit to what sometimes seems like
    procrastination, dragging one's heels, and the like is sometimes
    because something isn't right in the overall scheme of things.
    Universe say 'ugh-ugh'. And sometimes it is just wanting to sit on
    one's rump and not do anything.
    But there are days when that's exactly what is needed, to not do
    anything, and give the body a chance to recharge... :)
    Agree. Some things are urgent and need to be done _now_; most not so urgent. And for me sometimes those breaks are when ideas percolate through.

    And I've just had a couple of days where I needed to do some other
    things, and didn't have the oomph to do messages as well...

    We didn't have any issues. She had some fear/concern/confusion
    initially -- we had been told she had been abused by her previous
    owner but other than than pretty much no history. And yes, I'm quite
    sure she didn't understand why she was in a shelter and then going for
    a ride with New People -- and staying at New House?? Yes, I'd be
    confused too!
    Animals that have been abused, or had other trauma, generally do
    respond well to gentle loving care by new owners... She might well
    have had at least an inkling from the start that things would be
    better now... :)
    Seems so. :) In the car on the trip from the shelter to home (I
    wasn't driving) she just laid on my lap: alert as not quite sure what
    she was getting herself in to but otherwise relaxed and maybe even thankful as it seemed things were going to be OK now.

    When we brought Richard's grampa's cat home to live with us after his
    gram died also, Ming seemed to have a similar reaction... Nobody else in
    the family wanted him, he was a older, somewhat irrascible Siamese, but
    we just told them that we had promised Gram that we'd take him if she
    went first... He lived with us for another 4 years, and turned into
    quite the love sponge... definitely acted as though he'd been given a
    new lease on life.... :)

    ...Poor thing had to stay in the basement the first few nights: we
    weren't sure if she was properly housebroken or would 'react badly'.
    I did go down and check on her -- "warned" her I was coming so
    she wouldn't be frightened.
    Better safe than sorry, and I'm sure she responded well to your tone
    of voice, which I'm sure was reassuring... :) And after the first
    few nights, you could let her check out the rest of the house and
    settle in.... :)
    Yes: strange noises in a strange place. I had plugged a night light
    in the outlet at the workbench so she could see her immediate
    surroundings - to me seemed would be less scary for her. No accidents;
    a couple of days later she did get moved upstairs into what was then my Computer Room.

    And settled in as one of the family, no doubt... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Fri Feb 14 08:44:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    And for me, it also can depend on how alert the brain is being at
    the moment... sometimes mornings are better, sometimes not.... ;)
    Just what we need: more lerts! Yes, sometimes the brain just isn't
    into something, though I will admit to what sometimes seems like
    procrastination, dragging one's heels, and the like is sometimes
    because something isn't right in the overall scheme of things.
    Universe say 'ugh-ugh'. And sometimes it is just wanting to sit on
    one's rump and not do anything.
    But there are days when that's exactly what is needed, to not do
    anything, and give the body a chance to recharge... :)
    Agree. Some things are urgent and need to be done _now_; most not so urgent. And for me sometimes those breaks are when ideas percolate through.
    And I've just had a couple of days where I needed to do some
    other things, and didn't have the oomph to do messages as well...

    Priorities! Sure, would be nice if had the time and energy but sometimes doesn't work out that way.


    When we brought Richard's grampa's cat home to live with us after
    his gram died also, Ming seemed to have a similar reaction...
    Nobody else in the family wanted him, he was a older, somewhat
    irrascible Siamese, but we just told them that we had promised
    Gram that we'd take him if she went first... He lived with us for
    another 4 years, and turned into quite the love sponge...
    definitely acted as though he'd been given a new lease on
    life.... :)

    Ming probably knew things weren't right with your grandfather and then
    was gone. Possibly someone came by "to feed the cat" - "hey! I'm a cat,
    not a thing!". You two came, moved Ming to a new place, and he had to
    get used to the new place and lifestyle -- "not bad!".


    ...Poor thing had to stay in the basement the first few nights: we
    weren't sure if she was properly housebroken or would 'react badly'.
    I did go down and check on her -- "warned" her I was coming so
    she wouldn't be frightened.
    Better safe than sorry, and I'm sure she responded well to your tone
    of voice, which I'm sure was reassuring... :) And after the first
    few nights, you could let her check out the rest of the house and
    settle in.... :)
    Yes: strange noises in a strange place. I had plugged a night light
    in the outlet at the workbench so she could see her immediate
    surroundings - to me seemed would be less scary for her. No accidents;
    a couple of days later she did get moved upstairs into what was then my Computer Room.
    And settled in as one of the family, no doubt... :)

    Pretty much: she had her places to lay down, her routines. Never did
    figure out her trigger: would be napping on the Living Room floor, we'd
    be watching TV (a recording). Ten minutes to ten she'd wake up, look
    around, slowly walk to her cage in the Computer Room (was onthe first
    floor back then), and go to sleep. The Cuckoo Clock has a 'bump' at
    five minutes before the hour, we though that was the trigger so stopped
    to test - nope. Never did figure out what her alarm clock was.



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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Tue Feb 18 21:17:04 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 14-Feb-2020 08:44 <=-

    though I will admit to what sometimes seems like procrastination,
    dragging one's heels, and the like is sometimes because something
    isn't right in the overall scheme of things. Universe say 'ugh-ugh'.
    And sometimes it is just wanting to sit on one's rump and not do
    anything.
    But there are days when that's exactly what is needed, to not do
    anything, and give the body a chance to recharge... :)
    Agree. Some things are urgent and need to be done _now_; most not so
    urgent. And for me sometimes those breaks are when ideas percolate
    through.
    And I've just had a couple of days where I needed to do some other
    things, and didn't have the oomph to do messages as well...
    Priorities! Sure, would be nice if had the time and energy but
    sometimes doesn't work out that way.

    Exactly. :)

    When we brought Richard's grampa's cat home to live with us after his
    gram died also, Ming seemed to have a similar reaction... Nobody else
    in the family wanted him, he was a older, somewhat irrascible Siamese,
    but we just told them that we had promised Gram that we'd take him if
    she went first... He lived with us for another 4 years, and turned
    into quite the love sponge... definitely acted as though he'd been
    given a new lease on life.... :)
    Ming probably knew things weren't right with your grandfather and then
    was gone. Possibly someone came by "to feed the cat" - "hey! I'm a
    cat, not a thing!". You two came, moved Ming to a new place, and he
    had to get used to the new place and lifestyle -- "not bad!".

    Ming was very definitely Grampa's cat... when Grampa died, he took care
    of "Grampa's woman" for the next 4 years... We interacted with Ming
    whenever we would come to visit, never pushed, just let him check us
    out, give a little attention... When Gram died, he did go into a
    depression, like there wasn't any purpose to life any more.... So when
    we came to get him, he perked up just a little, recognizing us as good
    things from his "former" life.... And when Richard removed the toe claw
    that had grown into his pad, life was good again... he was glad to come
    with us... When we brought him into the house, the other two cats here
    looked at him and obviously were thinking "Grampa's come to live with
    us, that's cool"... and there wasn't any issues between them... ;)

    ...Poor thing had to stay in the basement the first few nights: we
    weren't sure if she was properly housebroken or would 'react badly'.
    I did go down and check on her -- "warned" her I was coming so
    she wouldn't be frightened.
    Better safe than sorry, and I'm sure she responded well to your tone
    of voice, which I'm sure was reassuring... :) And after the first
    few nights, you could let her check out the rest of the house and
    settle in.... :)
    Yes: strange noises in a strange place. I had plugged a night light
    in the outlet at the workbench so she could see her immediate
    surroundings - to me seemed would be less scary for her. No accidents;
    a couple of days later she did get moved upstairs into what was then my
    Computer Room.
    And settled in as one of the family, no doubt... :)
    Pretty much: she had her places to lay down, her routines. Never did figure out her trigger: would be napping on the Living Room floor,
    we'd be watching TV (a recording). Ten minutes to ten she'd wake up,
    look around, slowly walk to her cage in the Computer Room (was onthe
    first floor back then), and go to sleep. The Cuckoo Clock has a 'bump'
    at five minutes before the hour, we though that was the trigger so
    stopped to test - nope. Never did figure out what her alarm clock was.

    Some animals, particularly dogs, seem to have an inbuilt clock... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Wed Feb 19 09:37:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    though I will admit to what sometimes seems like procrastination,
    dragging one's heels, and the like is sometimes because something
    isn't right in the overall scheme of things. Universe say 'ugh-ugh'.
    And sometimes it is just wanting to sit on one's rump and not do
    anything.
    But there are days when that's exactly what is needed, to not do
    anything, and give the body a chance to recharge... :)
    Agree. Some things are urgent and need to be done _now_; most not so
    urgent. And for me sometimes those breaks are when ideas percolate
    through.
    And I've just had a couple of days where I needed to do some other
    things, and didn't have the oomph to do messages as well...
    Priorities! Sure, would be nice if had the time and energy but
    sometimes doesn't work out that way.
    Exactly. :)

    And sometimes delays work out. All of a sudden the thought breaks
    through "if I do this". Or even "good thing I didn't rush into that".


    When we brought Richard's grampa's cat home to live with us after his
    gram died also, Ming seemed to have a similar reaction... Nobody else
    in the family wanted him, he was a older, somewhat irrascible Siamese,
    but we just told them that we had promised Gram that we'd take him if
    she went first... He lived with us for another 4 years, and turned
    into quite the love sponge... definitely acted as though he'd been
    given a new lease on life.... :)
    Ming probably knew things weren't right with your grandfather and then
    was gone. Possibly someone came by "to feed the cat" - "hey! I'm a
    cat, not a thing!". You two came, moved Ming to a new place, and he
    had to get used to the new place and lifestyle -- "not bad!".
    Ming was very definitely Grampa's cat... when Grampa died, he
    took care of "Grampa's woman" for the next 4 years... We
    interacted with Ming whenever we would come to visit, never
    pushed, just let him check us out, give a little attention...
    When Gram died, he did go into a depression, like there wasn't
    any purpose to life any more.... So when we came to get him, he
    perked up just a little, recognizing us as good things from his
    "former" life....

    "I remember these people - they were good!"

    And when Richard removed the toe claw that had
    grown into his pad, life was good again... he was glad to come
    with us...

    I'm half-recalling the fable about the slave thrown into the Coliseum,
    the lion recognizes him from years earlier when pulled a thorn from his
    paw.

    When we brought him into the house, the other two
    cats here looked at him and obviously were thinking "Grampa's
    come to live with us, that's cool"... and there wasn't any issues
    between them... ;)

    Later "where's Grampa? He hides better than we do!".


    ...Poor thing had to stay in the basement the first few nights: we
    weren't sure if she was properly housebroken or would 'react badly'.
    I did go down and check on her -- "warned" her I was coming so
    she wouldn't be frightened.
    Better safe than sorry, and I'm sure she responded well to your tone
    of voice, which I'm sure was reassuring... :) And after the first
    few nights, you could let her check out the rest of the house and
    settle in.... :)
    Yes: strange noises in a strange place. I had plugged a night light
    in the outlet at the workbench so she could see her immediate
    surroundings - to me seemed would be less scary for her. No accidents;
    a couple of days later she did get moved upstairs into what was then my
    Computer Room.
    And settled in as one of the family, no doubt... :)
    Pretty much: she had her places to lay down, her routines. Never did figure out her trigger: would be napping on the Living Room floor,
    we'd be watching TV (a recording). Ten minutes to ten she'd wake up,
    look around, slowly walk to her cage in the Computer Room (was onthe
    first floor back then), and go to sleep. The Cuckoo Clock has a 'bump'
    at five minutes before the hour, we though that was the trigger so
    stopped to test - nope. Never did figure out what her alarm clock was.
    Some animals, particularly dogs, seem to have an inbuilt clock...
    :)

    Sure seemed to be some sort of internal clock as we tested whatever may
    have been a signal. Most logical was the cuckoo clock as we heard a
    slight clunk at about five minutes of the hour, so maybe an inaudible to
    us humans noise at ten of? Stopped the clock - nope. Almost made since
    not to be Cuckoo as we'd be in the Living Room the previous hour and if
    she was snoozing wouldn't react.



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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Wed Feb 26 00:17:00 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 19-Feb-2020 09:37 <=-

    And sometimes it is just wanting to sit on one's rump and not do
    anything.
    But there are days when that's exactly what is needed, to not do
    anything, and give the body a chance to recharge... :)
    Agree. Some things are urgent and need to be done _now_; most not so
    urgent. And for me sometimes those breaks are when ideas percolate
    through.
    And I've just had a couple of days where I needed to do some other
    things, and didn't have the oomph to do messages as well...
    Priorities! Sure, would be nice if had the time and energy but
    sometimes doesn't work out that way.
    Exactly. :)
    And sometimes delays work out. All of a sudden the thought breaks
    through "if I do this". Or even "good thing I didn't rush into that".

    True... :)

    When we brought Richard's grampa's cat home to live with us after his
    gram died also, Ming seemed to have a similar reaction... Nobody else
    in the family wanted him, he was a older, somewhat irrascible Siamese,
    but we just told them that we had promised Gram that we'd take him if
    she went first... He lived with us for another 4 years, and turned
    into quite the love sponge... definitely acted as though he'd been
    given a new lease on life.... :)
    Ming probably knew things weren't right with your grandfather and then
    was gone. Possibly someone came by "to feed the cat" - "hey! I'm a
    cat, not a thing!". You two came, moved Ming to a new place, and he
    had to get used to the new place and lifestyle -- "not bad!".
    Ming was very definitely Grampa's cat... when Grampa died, he took
    care of "Grampa's woman" for the next 4 years... We interacted with
    Ming whenever we would come to visit, never pushed, just let him
    check us out, give a little attention... When Gram died, he did go
    into a depression, like there wasn't any purpose to life any more...
    So when we came to get him, he perked up just a little, recognizing
    us as good things from his "former" life....
    "I remember these people - they were good!"

    Yup... or at least, "they weren't all that bad"... <G>

    And when Richard removed the toe claw that had grown into his pad,
    life was good again... he was glad to come with us...
    I'm half-recalling the fable about the slave thrown into the Coliseum,
    the lion recognizes him from years earlier when pulled a thorn from
    his paw.

    I think that was Pericles...?

    When we brought him into the house, the other two cats here looked at
    him and obviously were thinking "Grampa's come to live with us, that's
    cool"... and there wasn't any issues between them... ;)
    Later "where's Grampa? He hides better than we do!".

    When he died, it was here at home... he was lying on a throw rug in the
    doorway between the dining room and the music room... Rob went thru the doorway, reached down to pet him, and then came back thru a few minutes
    later, did the same, and realised that Ming was gone... I think the
    other cats figured it out as well...

    Yes: strange noises in a strange place. I had plugged a night light
    in the outlet at the workbench so she could see her immediate
    surroundings - to me seemed would be less scary for her. No accidents;
    a couple of days later she did get moved upstairs into what was then my
    Computer Room.
    And settled in as one of the family, no doubt... :)
    Pretty much: she had her places to lay down, her routines. Never did
    figure out her trigger: would be napping on the Living Room floor,
    we'd be watching TV (a recording). Ten minutes to ten she'd wake up,
    look around, slowly walk to her cage in the Computer Room (was onthe
    first floor back then), and go to sleep. The Cuckoo Clock has a 'bump'
    at five minutes before the hour, we though that was the trigger so
    stopped to test - nope. Never did figure out what her alarm clock was.
    Some animals, particularly dogs, seem to have an inbuilt clock... :)

    Sure seemed to be some sort of internal clock as we tested whatever
    may have been a signal. Most logical was the cuckoo clock as we heard
    a slight clunk at about five minutes of the hour, so maybe an inaudible
    to us humans noise at ten of? Stopped the clock - nope. Almost made sense not to be Cuckoo as we'd be in the Living Room the previous hour
    and if she was snoozing wouldn't react.

    Yup. :) Totally makes sense not to be the Cuckoo clock.... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Wed Feb 26 07:25:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    And sometimes it is just wanting to sit on one's rump and not do
    anything.
    But there are days when that's exactly what is needed, to not do
    anything, and give the body a chance to recharge... :)
    Agree. Some things are urgent and need to be done _now_; most not so
    urgent. And for me sometimes those breaks are when ideas percolate
    through.
    And I've just had a couple of days where I needed to do some other
    things, and didn't have the oomph to do messages as well...
    Priorities! Sure, would be nice if had the time and energy but
    sometimes doesn't work out that way.
    Exactly. :)
    And sometimes delays work out. All of a sudden the thought breaks
    through "if I do this". Or even "good thing I didn't rush into that".
    True... :)

    And sometimes it's "I really should have done that last week: now I have
    twice as much to do! <sigh>) <g>



    When we brought Richard's grampa's cat home to live with us after his
    gram died also, Ming seemed to have a similar reaction... Nobody else
    in the family wanted him, he was a older, somewhat irrascible Siamese,
    but we just told them that we had promised Gram that we'd take him if
    she went first... He lived with us for another 4 years, and turned
    into quite the love sponge... definitely acted as though he'd been
    given a new lease on life.... :)
    Ming probably knew things weren't right with your grandfather and then
    was gone. Possibly someone came by "to feed the cat" - "hey! I'm a
    cat, not a thing!". You two came, moved Ming to a new place, and he
    had to get used to the new place and lifestyle -- "not bad!".
    Ming was very definitely Grampa's cat... when Grampa died, he took
    care of "Grampa's woman" for the next 4 years... We interacted with
    Ming whenever we would come to visit, never pushed, just let him
    check us out, give a little attention... When Gram died, he did go
    into a depression, like there wasn't any purpose to life any more...
    So when we came to get him, he perked up just a little, recognizing
    us as good things from his "former" life....
    "I remember these people - they were good!"
    Yup... or at least, "they weren't all that bad"... <G>

    Oops, yes, forgot the cat's viewpoint!


    And when Richard removed the toe claw that had grown into his pad,
    life was good again... he was glad to come with us...
    I'm half-recalling the fable about the slave thrown into the Coliseum,
    the lion recognizes him from years earlier when pulled a thorn from
    his paw.
    I think that was Pericles...?

    Didn't seem quite right: Pericles was a builder; Androcles is the slave pulling the thorn per https://www.pitt.edu/~dash/type0156.html, though
    same source also listed an Aesop fable of a slave pulling a thorn from
    the lions' paw put no name. ...Maybe Aesop wasn't sure either but since
    at the time no Google and just left out any name. <gg>


    When we brought him into the house, the other two cats here looked at
    him and obviously were thinking "Grampa's come to live with us, that's
    cool"... and there wasn't any issues between them... ;)
    Later "where's Grampa? He hides better than we do!".
    When he died, it was here at home... he was lying on a throw rug
    in the doorway between the dining room and the music room... Rob
    went thru the doorway, reached down to pet him, and then came
    back thru a few minutes later, did the same, and realised that
    Ming was gone... I think the other cats figured it out as well...

    Animals are extremely smart.


    Yes: strange noises in a strange place. I had plugged a night light
    in the outlet at the workbench so she could see her immediate
    surroundings - to me seemed would be less scary for her. No accidents;
    a couple of days later she did get moved upstairs into what was then my
    Computer Room.
    And settled in as one of the family, no doubt... :)
    Pretty much: she had her places to lay down, her routines. Never did
    figure out her trigger: would be napping on the Living Room floor,
    we'd be watching TV (a recording). Ten minutes to ten she'd wake up,
    look around, slowly walk to her cage in the Computer Room (was onthe
    first floor back then), and go to sleep. The Cuckoo Clock has a 'bump'
    at five minutes before the hour, we though that was the trigger so
    stopped to test - nope. Never did figure out what her alarm clock was.
    Some animals, particularly dogs, seem to have an inbuilt clock... :)
    Sure seemed to be some sort of internal clock as we tested whatever
    may have been a signal. Most logical was the cuckoo clock as we heard
    a slight clunk at about five minutes of the hour, so maybe an inaudible
    to us humans noise at ten of? Stopped the clock - nope. Almost made sense not to be Cuckoo as we'd be in the Living Room the previous hour
    and if she was snoozing wouldn't react.
    Yup. :) Totally makes sense not to be the Cuckoo clock.... :)

    Right, and never did figure out, though we didn't do an exhaustive
    check. More figured due to her internal clock.



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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Tue Mar 3 21:18:32 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 26-Feb-2020 07:25 <=-

    Agree. Some things are urgent and need to be done _now_; most not so
    urgent. And for me sometimes those breaks are when ideas percolate
    through.
    And I've just had a couple of days where I needed to do some other
    things, and didn't have the oomph to do messages as well...
    Priorities! Sure, would be nice if had the time and energy but
    sometimes doesn't work out that way.
    Exactly. :)
    And sometimes delays work out. All of a sudden the thought breaks
    through "if I do this". Or even "good thing I didn't rush into that".
    True... :)
    And sometimes it's "I really should have done that last week: now I
    have twice as much to do! <sigh>) <g>

    True... some days you just can't seem to win for losing... ;)

    Ming was very definitely Grampa's cat... when Grampa died, he took
    care of "Grampa's woman" for the next 4 years... We interacted with
    Ming whenever we would come to visit, never pushed, just let him
    check us out, give a little attention... When Gram died, he did go
    into a depression, like there wasn't any purpose to life any more...
    So when we came to get him, he perked up just a little, recognizing
    us as good things from his "former" life....
    "I remember these people - they were good!"
    Yup... or at least, "they weren't all that bad"... <G>
    Oops, yes, forgot the cat's viewpoint!

    After all, he was a Siamese... ;)

    And when Richard removed the toe claw that had grown into his pad,
    life was good again... he was glad to come with us...
    I'm half-recalling the fable about the slave thrown into the Coliseum,
    the lion recognizes him from years earlier when pulled a thorn from
    his paw.
    I think that was Pericles...?
    Didn't seem quite right: Pericles was a builder; Androcles is the
    slave pulling the thorn per https://www.pitt.edu/~dash/type0156.html,

    That's right.... Androcles was the one... :)

    though same source also listed an Aesop fable of a slave pulling a
    thorn from the lions' paw but no name. ...Maybe Aesop wasn't sure
    either but since at the time no Google and just left out any name. <gg>

    Or maybe Aesop knew, but along the way some publisher left it out... ;)

    When we brought him into the house, the other two cats here looked at
    him and obviously were thinking "Grampa's come to live with us, that's
    cool"... and there wasn't any issues between them... ;)
    Later "where's Grampa? He hides better than we do!".
    When he died, it was here at home... he was lying on a throw rug in
    the doorway between the dining room and the music room... Rob went
    thru the doorway, reached down to pet him, and then came back thru
    a few minutes later, did the same, and realised that Ming was gone...
    I think the other cats figured it out as well...
    Animals are extremely smart.

    They can be... :)

    Pretty much: she had her places to lay down, her routines. Never did
    figure out her trigger: would be napping on the Living Room floor,
    we'd be watching TV (a recording). Ten minutes to ten she'd wake up,
    look around, slowly walk to her cage in the Computer Room (was on the
    first floor back then), and go to sleep. The Cuckoo Clock has a 'bump'
    at five minutes before the hour, we though that was the trigger so
    stopped to test - nope. Never did figure out what her alarm clock was.
    Some animals, particularly dogs, seem to have an inbuilt clock... :)
    Sure seemed to be some sort of internal clock as we tested whatever
    may have been a signal. Most logical was the cuckoo clock as we heard
    a slight clunk at about five minutes of the hour, so maybe an inaudible
    to us humans noise at ten of? Stopped the clock - nope. Almost made
    sense not to be Cuckoo as we'd be in the Living Room the previous hour
    and if she was snoozing wouldn't react.
    Yup. :) Totally makes sense not to be the Cuckoo clock.... :)
    Right, and never did figure out, though we didn't do an exhaustive
    check. More figured due to her internal clock.

    Probably. :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Wed Mar 4 11:07:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    Agree. Some things are urgent and need to be done _now_; most not so
    urgent. And for me sometimes those breaks are when ideas percolate
    through.
    And I've just had a couple of days where I needed to do some other
    things, and didn't have the oomph to do messages as well...
    Priorities! Sure, would be nice if had the time and energy but
    sometimes doesn't work out that way.
    Exactly. :)
    And sometimes delays work out. All of a sudden the thought breaks
    through "if I do this". Or even "good thing I didn't rush into that".
    True... :)
    And sometimes it's "I really should have done that last week: now I
    have twice as much to do! <sigh>) <g>
    True... some days you just can't seem to win for losing... ;)

    Yup. Not a bad thing to have it occur occasionally, can be a bit
    frustrating but that's the way things go.


    Ming was very definitely Grampa's cat... when Grampa died, he took
    care of "Grampa's woman" for the next 4 years... We interacted with
    Ming whenever we would come to visit, never pushed, just let him
    check us out, give a little attention... When Gram died, he did go
    into a depression, like there wasn't any purpose to life any more...
    So when we came to get him, he perked up just a little, recognizing
    us as good things from his "former" life....
    "I remember these people - they were good!"
    Yup... or at least, "they weren't all that bad"... <G>
    Oops, yes, forgot the cat's viewpoint!
    After all, he was a Siamese... ;)

    You were lucky to be let into the kitty's life!!


    And when Richard removed the toe claw that had grown into his pad,
    life was good again... he was glad to come with us...
    I'm half-recalling the fable about the slave thrown into the Coliseum,
    the lion recognizes him from years earlier when pulled a thorn from
    his paw.
    I think that was Pericles...?
    Didn't seem quite right: Pericles was a builder; Androcles is the
    slave pulling the thorn per https://www.pitt.edu/~dash/type0156.html,
    That's right.... Androcles was the one... :)
    though same source also listed an Aesop fable of a slave pulling a
    thorn from the lions' paw but no name. ...Maybe Aesop wasn't sure
    either but since at the time no Google and just left out any name. <gg>
    Or maybe Aesop knew, but along the way some publisher left it
    out... ;)

    Or a scribe: "Ah poo! Dripped my wine on the original manuscript and now
    I can't read what that name was. I'll just make a minor change and no
    one will be the wiser. ....There!" <thunderclap!>


    Pretty much: she had her places to lay down, her routines. Never did
    figure out her trigger: would be napping on the Living Room floor,
    we'd be watching TV (a recording). Ten minutes to ten she'd wake up,
    look around, slowly walk to her cage in the Computer Room (was on the
    first floor back then), and go to sleep. The Cuckoo Clock has a 'bump'
    at five minutes before the hour, we though that was the trigger so
    stopped to test - nope. Never did figure out what her alarm clock was.
    Some animals, particularly dogs, seem to have an inbuilt clock... :)
    Sure seemed to be some sort of internal clock as we tested whatever
    may have been a signal. Most logical was the cuckoo clock as we heard
    a slight clunk at about five minutes of the hour, so maybe an inaudible
    to us humans noise at ten of? Stopped the clock - nope. Almost made
    sense not to be Cuckoo as we'd be in the Living Room the previous hour
    and if she was snoozing wouldn't react.
    Yup. :) Totally makes sense not to be the Cuckoo clock.... :)
    Right, and never did figure out, though we didn't do an exhaustive
    check. More figured due to her internal clock.
    Probably. :)

    And some people can do similar: awaken each morning at the same time.
    (Wonder how they do at the DST change?)


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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Mon Mar 9 22:53:54 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 04-Mar-2020 11:07 <=-

    And sometimes delays work out. All of a sudden the thought breaks
    through "if I do this". Or even "good thing I didn't rush into that".
    True... :)
    And sometimes it's "I really should have done that last week: now I
    have twice as much to do! <sigh>) <g>
    True... some days you just can't seem to win for losing... ;)
    Yup. Not a bad thing to have it occur occasionally, can be a bit frustrating but that's the way things go.

    And sometimes one learns for the next time... ;)

    Ming was very definitely Grampa's cat... when Grampa died, he took
    care of "Grampa's woman" for the next 4 years... We interacted with
    Ming whenever we would come to visit, never pushed, just let him
    check us out, give a little attention... When Gram died, he did go
    into a depression, like there wasn't any purpose to life any more...
    So when we came to get him, he perked up just a little, recognizing
    us as good things from his "former" life....
    "I remember these people - they were good!"
    Yup... or at least, "they weren't all that bad"... <G>
    Oops, yes, forgot the cat's viewpoint!
    After all, he was a Siamese... ;)
    You were lucky to be let into the kitty's life!!

    He thought so, anyway.... <G> I think he also figured, though, that he
    was lucky to have been let into our lives.... :)

    And when Richard removed the toe claw that had grown into his pad,
    life was good again... he was glad to come with us...
    I'm half-recalling the fable about the slave thrown into the Coliseum,
    the lion recognizes him from years earlier when pulled a thorn from
    his paw.
    I think that was Pericles...?
    Didn't seem quite right: Pericles was a builder; Androcles is the
    slave pulling the thorn per https://www.pitt.edu/~dash/type0156.html,
    That's right.... Androcles was the one... :)
    though same source also listed an Aesop fable of a slave pulling a
    thorn from the lions' paw but no name. ...Maybe Aesop wasn't sure
    either but since at the time no Google and just left out any name. <gg>
    Or maybe Aesop knew, but along the way some publisher left it out.. ;)
    Or a scribe: "Ah poo! Dripped my wine on the original manuscript and
    now I can't read what that name was. I'll just make a minor change and
    no one will be the wiser. ....There!" <thunderclap!>

    Whoops... <G>

    Pretty much: she had her places to lay down, her routines. Never did
    figure out her trigger: would be napping on the Living Room floor,
    we'd be watching TV (a recording). Ten minutes to ten she'd wake up,
    look around, slowly walk to her cage in the Computer Room (was on the
    first floor back then), and go to sleep. The Cuckoo Clock has a 'bump'
    at five minutes before the hour, we though that was the trigger so
    stopped to test - nope. Never did figure out what her alarm clock was.
    Some animals, particularly dogs, seem to have an inbuilt clock... :)
    Sure seemed to be some sort of internal clock as we tested whatever
    may have been a signal. Most logical was the cuckoo clock as we heard
    a slight clunk at about five minutes of the hour, so maybe an inaudible
    to us humans noise at ten of? Stopped the clock - nope. Almost made
    sense not to be Cuckoo as we'd be in the Living Room the previous hour
    and if she was snoozing wouldn't react.
    Yup. :) Totally makes sense not to be the Cuckoo clock.... :)
    Right, and never did figure out, though we didn't do an exhaustive
    check. More figured due to her internal clock.
    Probably. :)
    And some people can do similar: awaken each morning at the same time. (Wonder how they do at the DST change?)

    Probably depends on how they manage to set their internal clock... in
    order to cope with the change, one thing I do now is to try to start
    thinking in the new time the night before... particularly when I go to
    bed... I've not used an actual alarm in over a decade, and even then, I
    didn't use one often... I do, though, have the radio on, so when I do
    surface into consciousness, I can generally tell by the programming and
    the announcer what general time it is...

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Tue Mar 10 08:06:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    And sometimes delays work out. All of a sudden the thought breaks
    through "if I do this". Or even "good thing I didn't rush into that".
    True... :)
    And sometimes it's "I really should have done that last week: now I
    have twice as much to do! <sigh>) <g>
    True... some days you just can't seem to win for losing... ;)
    Yup. Not a bad thing to have it occur occasionally, can be a bit frustrating but that's the way things go.
    And sometimes one learns for the next time... ;)

    Maybe! <g>


    Ming was very definitely Grampa's cat... when Grampa died, he took
    care of "Grampa's woman" for the next 4 years... We interacted with
    Ming whenever we would come to visit, never pushed, just let him
    check us out, give a little attention... When Gram died, he did go
    into a depression, like there wasn't any purpose to life any more...
    So when we came to get him, he perked up just a little, recognizing
    us as good things from his "former" life....
    "I remember these people - they were good!"
    Yup... or at least, "they weren't all that bad"... <G>
    Oops, yes, forgot the cat's viewpoint!
    After all, he was a Siamese... ;)
    You were lucky to be let into the kitty's life!!
    He thought so, anyway.... <G> I think he also figured, though,
    that he was lucky to have been let into our lives.... :)

    It would be interesting to know what animals think. OTOH I wouldn't
    want to know the cat or dog just thought of me as their butler or maid!



    And some people can do similar: awaken each morning at the same time. (Wonder how they do at the DST change?)
    Probably depends on how they manage to set their internal
    clock... in order to cope with the change, one thing I do now is
    to try to start thinking in the new time the night before...
    particularly when I go to bed... I've not used an actual alarm in
    over a decade, and even then, I didn't use one often... I do,
    though, have the radio on, so when I do surface into
    consciousness, I can generally tell by the programming and the
    announcer what general time it is...

    My guess is there are sufficient external cues to reset for the time
    change: you may have heard the announcer switch and so known one more
    hour. I would also guess the act of switching the time on clock and
    watches would make one more aware of the time change and so the body's internal human world timekeeping mechanism is also updated.



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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Mon Mar 16 00:31:56 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 10-Mar-2020 08:06 <=-

    And sometimes delays work out. All of a sudden the thought breaks
    through "if I do this". Or even "good thing I didn't rush into that".
    True... :)
    And sometimes it's "I really should have done that last week: now I
    have twice as much to do! <sigh>) <g>
    True... some days you just can't seem to win for losing... ;)
    Yup. Not a bad thing to have it occur occasionally, can be a bit
    frustrating but that's the way things go.
    And sometimes one learns for the next time... ;)
    Maybe! <g>

    One hopes to remember the lessons learned... <G>

    So when we came to get him, he perked up just a little, recognizing
    us as good things from his "former" life....
    "I remember these people - they were good!"
    Yup... or at least, "they weren't all that bad"... <G>
    Oops, yes, forgot the cat's viewpoint!
    After all, he was a Siamese... ;)
    You were lucky to be let into the kitty's life!!
    He thought so, anyway.... <G> I think he also figured, though, that
    he was lucky to have been let into our lives.... :)
    It would be interesting to know what animals think. OTOH I wouldn't
    want to know the cat or dog just thought of me as their butler or
    maid!

    Or worse, slave... ;) We keep reminding the cats that live with us
    that they are living with us on tolerance, and that this is a two-way relationship.... supposed to benefit all of us.... ;)

    And some people can do similar: awaken each morning at the same time.
    (Wonder how they do at the DST change?)
    Probably depends on how they manage to set their internal clock... in
    order to cope with the change, one thing I do now is to try to start
    thinking in the new time the night before... particularly when I go
    to bed... I've not used an actual alarm in over a decade, and even
    then, I didn't use one often... I do, though, have the radio on, so
    when I do surface into consciousness, I can generally tell by the
    programming and the announcer what general time it is...
    My guess is there are sufficient external cues to reset for the time change: you may have heard the announcer switch and so known one more hour. I would also guess the act of switching the time on clock and watches would make one more aware of the time change and so the body's internal human world timekeeping mechanism is also updated.

    At least mentally.... ;) The body itself still wants to be on the
    standard time.... ;)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Mon Mar 16 08:36:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    And sometimes delays work out. All of a sudden the thought breaks
    through "if I do this". Or even "good thing I didn't rush into that".
    True... :)
    And sometimes it's "I really should have done that last week: now I
    have twice as much to do! <sigh>) <g>
    True... some days you just can't seem to win for losing... ;)
    Yup. Not a bad thing to have it occur occasionally, can be a bit
    frustrating but that's the way things go.
    And sometimes one learns for the next time... ;)
    Maybe! <g>
    One hopes to remember the lessons learned... <G>

    Hmm? Which 'lessons'? Oh! <jk> And then there's the frustration of
    "well it worked before!" Sometimes can't win.


    So when we came to get him, he perked up just a little, recognizing
    us as good things from his "former" life....
    "I remember these people - they were good!"
    Yup... or at least, "they weren't all that bad"... <G>
    Oops, yes, forgot the cat's viewpoint!
    After all, he was a Siamese... ;)
    You were lucky to be let into the kitty's life!!
    He thought so, anyway.... <G> I think he also figured, though, that
    he was lucky to have been let into our lives.... :)
    It would be interesting to know what animals think. OTOH I wouldn't
    want to know the cat or dog just thought of me as their butler or
    maid!
    Or worse, slave... ;) We keep reminding the cats that live with
    us that they are living with us on tolerance, and that this is a
    two-way relationship.... supposed to benefit all of us.... ;)

    And the cats purr and rub along your leg. "Haha, silly human! You think
    this means I love you; it really is me marking you with my scent and
    you're mine!"


    And some people can do similar: awaken each morning at the same time.
    (Wonder how they do at the DST change?)
    Probably depends on how they manage to set their internal clock... in
    order to cope with the change, one thing I do now is to try to start
    thinking in the new time the night before... particularly when I go
    to bed... I've not used an actual alarm in over a decade, and even
    then, I didn't use one often... I do, though, have the radio on, so
    when I do surface into consciousness, I can generally tell by the
    programming and the announcer what general time it is...
    My guess is there are sufficient external cues to reset for the time change: you may have heard the announcer switch and so known one more hour. I would also guess the act of switching the time on clock and watches would make one more aware of the time change and so the body's internal human world timekeeping mechanism is also updated.
    At least mentally.... ;) The body itself still wants to be on
    the standard time.... ;)

    <laff> It does! Sometimes lately I've been waking up up to a half-hour
    later which would be closer to the old/natural time. OTOH could be just because I need a little more sleep. My hunger times seem to be 'moved
    over' to DST, but then there are constant little reminders like meals to
    keep it on track with the updated clock.


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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Fri Mar 27 17:18:42 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 16-Mar-2020 08:36 <=-

    And sometimes delays work out. All of a sudden the thought breaks
    through "if I do this". Or even "good thing I didn't rush into that".
    True... :)
    And sometimes it's "I really should have done that last week: now I
    have twice as much to do! <sigh>) <g>
    True... some days you just can't seem to win for losing... ;)
    Yup. Not a bad thing to have it occur occasionally, can be a bit
    frustrating but that's the way things go.
    And sometimes one learns for the next time... ;)
    Maybe! <g>
    One hopes to remember the lessons learned... <G>
    Hmm? Which 'lessons'? Oh! <jk> And then there's the frustration
    of "well it worked before!" Sometimes can't win.

    So we just take it as it comes, and hope to make progress...

    You were lucky to be let into the kitty's life!!
    He thought so, anyway.... <G> I think he also figured, though, that
    he was lucky to have been let into our lives.... :)
    It would be interesting to know what animals think. OTOH I wouldn't
    want to know the cat or dog just thought of me as their butler or
    maid!
    Or worse, slave... ;) We keep reminding the cats that live with
    us that they are living with us on tolerance, and that this is a
    two-way relationship.... supposed to benefit all of us.... ;)
    And the cats purr and rub along your leg. "Haha, silly human! You
    think this means I love you; it really is me marking you with my scent
    and you're mine!"

    Or some of each.... ;) I did once have a male cat that actually
    "marked" me.... he was my son's cat, and due to my son moving from an
    almost rural area into the inner city (Philly) was about to come home
    with us instead... We went down to help the kid move and all, and there, prowling amongst the boxes and other upheavals of the apartment, the cat
    came over to me and sprayed my leg... He'd known me from previous visits there... apparently decided to stake a claim elsewhere.... ;)

    And some people can do similar: awaken each morning at the same time.
    (Wonder how they do at the DST change?)
    Probably depends on how they manage to set their internal clock... in
    order to cope with the change, one thing I do now is to try to start
    thinking in the new time the night before... particularly when I go
    to bed... I've not used an actual alarm in over a decade, and even
    then, I didn't use one often... I do, though, have the radio on, so
    when I do surface into consciousness, I can generally tell by the
    programming and the announcer what general time it is...
    My guess is there are sufficient external cues to reset for the time
    change: you may have heard the announcer switch and so known one more
    hour. I would also guess the act of switching the time on clock and
    watches would make one more aware of the time change and so the body's
    internal human world timekeeping mechanism is also updated.
    At least mentally.... ;) The body itself still wants to be on the
    standard time.... ;)
    <laff> It does! Sometimes lately I've been waking up up to a half-hour later which would be closer to the old/natural time. OTOH could be
    just because I need a little more sleep. My hunger times seem to be 'moved over' to DST, but then there are constant little reminders like meals to keep it on track with the updated clock.

    Our meals aren't on a strict schedule at the best of times, so in a
    sense there's no change there whichever time we're on... but I do find
    myself fixing meals later than usual for a while after the time change
    to stealing time....

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Sat Mar 28 08:45:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    And sometimes delays work out. All of a sudden the thought breaks
    through "if I do this". Or even "good thing I didn't rush into
    that". NB>>>>> True... :)
    And sometimes it's "I really should have done that last week: now I
    have twice as much to do! <sigh>) <g>
    True... some days you just can't seem to win for losing... ;)
    Yup. Not a bad thing to have it occur occasionally, can be a bit
    frustrating but that's the way things go.
    And sometimes one learns for the next time... ;)
    Maybe! <g>
    One hopes to remember the lessons learned... <G>
    Hmm? Which 'lessons'? Oh! <jk> And then there's the frustration
    of "well it worked before!" Sometimes can't win.
    So we just take it as it comes, and hope to make progress...

    Am making progress on multiple projects -- would prefer to be able to do
    one or two at a time and get those completed but sometimes have to order
    parts, etc.


    You were lucky to be let into the kitty's life!!
    He thought so, anyway.... <G> I think he also figured, though, that
    he was lucky to have been let into our lives.... :)
    It would be interesting to know what animals think. OTOH I wouldn't
    want to know the cat or dog just thought of me as their butler or
    maid!
    Or worse, slave... ;) We keep reminding the cats that live with
    us that they are living with us on tolerance, and that this is a
    two-way relationship.... supposed to benefit all of us.... ;)
    And the cats purr and rub along your leg. "Haha, silly human! You
    think this means I love you; it really is me marking you with my scent
    and you're mine!"
    Or some of each.... ;) I did once have a male cat that actually
    "marked" me.... he was my son's cat, and due to my son moving
    from an almost rural area into the inner city (Philly) was about
    to come home with us instead... We went down to help the kid move
    and all, and there, prowling amongst the boxes and other
    upheavals of the apartment, the cat came over to me and sprayed
    my leg... He'd known me from previous visits there... apparently
    decided to stake a claim elsewhere.... ;)

    Uh, nice? Not quite what a human wants from a 'love interest' but from
    the cat perspective was a high compliment.



    And some people can do similar: awaken each morning at the same time.
    (Wonder how they do at the DST change?)
    Probably depends on how they manage to set their internal clock... in
    order to cope with the change, one thing I do now is to try to start
    thinking in the new time the night before... particularly when I go
    to bed... I've not used an actual alarm in over a decade, and even
    then, I didn't use one often... I do, though, have the radio on, so
    when I do surface into consciousness, I can generally tell by the
    programming and the announcer what general time it is...
    My guess is there are sufficient external cues to reset for the time
    change: you may have heard the announcer switch and so known one more
    hour. I would also guess the act of switching the time on clock and
    watches would make one more aware of the time change and so the body's
    internal human world timekeeping mechanism is also updated.
    At least mentally.... ;) The body itself still wants to be on the
    standard time.... ;)
    <laff> It does! Sometimes lately I've been waking up up to a half-hour later which would be closer to the old/natural time. OTOH could be
    just because I need a little more sleep. My hunger times seem to be 'moved over' to DST, but then there are constant little reminders like meals to keep it on track with the updated clock.
    Our meals aren't on a strict schedule at the best of times, so in
    a sense there's no change there whichever time we're on... but I
    do find myself fixing meals later than usual for a while after
    the time change to stealing time....

    Yes, we tend to be on an eating schedule also - - just times out that
    way plus easier to plan to get to a stopping point in a project.



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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Sun Apr 5 16:02:16 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 28-Mar-2020 08:45 <=-

    And sometimes it's "I really should have done that last week:
    now I have twice as much to do! <sigh>) <g>
    True... some days you just can't seem to win for losing... ;)
    Yup. Not a bad thing to have it occur occasionally, can be a bit
    frustrating but that's the way things go.
    And sometimes one learns for the next time... ;)
    Maybe! <g>
    One hopes to remember the lessons learned... <G>
    Hmm? Which 'lessons'? Oh! <jk> And then there's the frustration
    of "well it worked before!" Sometimes can't win.
    So we just take it as it comes, and hope to make progress...
    Am making progress on multiple projects -- would prefer to be able to
    do one or two at a time and get those completed but sometimes have to order parts, etc.

    Yup... there are some times when one can go full-speed ahead on just one project, and other times when one has to put things on hold for a bit
    and work on something else for a while. :) At least you are making
    progress on all the ones you're working on.. ;)

    And the cats purr and rub along your leg. "Haha, silly human! You
    think this means I love you; it really is me marking you with my scent
    and you're mine!"
    Or some of each.... ;) I did once have a male cat that actually
    "marked" me.... he was my son's cat, and due to my son moving from an
    almost rural area into the inner city (Philly) was about to come home
    with us instead... We went down to help the kid move and all, and
    there, prowling amongst the boxes and other upheavals of the
    apartment, the cat came over to me and sprayed my leg... He'd known
    me from previous visits there... apparently decided to stake a claim
    elsewhere.... ;)
    Uh, nice? Not quite what a human wants from a 'love interest' but
    from the cat perspective was a high compliment.

    It certainly did take me aback at the moment... and then I sorta figured
    out what he was up to.... ;) Only did it that once, too.... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Mon Apr 6 07:47:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    And sometimes it's "I really should have done that last week:
    now I have twice as much to do! <sigh>) <g>
    True... some days you just can't seem to win for losing... ;)
    Yup. Not a bad thing to have it occur occasionally, can be a bit
    frustrating but that's the way things go.
    And sometimes one learns for the next time... ;)
    Maybe! <g>
    One hopes to remember the lessons learned... <G>
    Hmm? Which 'lessons'? Oh! <jk> And then there's the frustration
    of "well it worked before!" Sometimes can't win.
    So we just take it as it comes, and hope to make progress...
    Am making progress on multiple projects -- would prefer to be able to
    do one or two at a time and get those completed but sometimes have to order parts, etc.
    Yup... there are some times when one can go full-speed ahead on
    just one project, and other times when one has to put things on
    hold for a bit and work on something else for a while. :) At
    least you are making progress on all the ones you're working on..
    ;)

    Well, sort of! I'd like them to go faster/quit throwing those annoying detours in my way but that's the way things are. Too easy gets boring!


    And the cats purr and rub along your leg. "Haha, silly human! You
    think this means I love you; it really is me marking you with my scent
    and you're mine!"
    Or some of each.... ;) I did once have a male cat that actually
    "marked" me.... he was my son's cat, and due to my son moving from an
    almost rural area into the inner city (Philly) was about to come home
    with us instead... We went down to help the kid move and all, and
    there, prowling amongst the boxes and other upheavals of the
    apartment, the cat came over to me and sprayed my leg... He'd known
    me from previous visits there... apparently decided to stake a claim
    elsewhere.... ;)
    Uh, nice? Not quite what a human wants from a 'love interest' but
    from the cat perspective was a high compliment.
    It certainly did take me aback at the moment... and then I sorta
    figured out what he was up to.... ;) Only did it that once,
    too.... :)

    You learned after the first time to run!


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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Wed Apr 15 19:15:26 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 06-Apr-2020 07:47 <=-

    One hopes to remember the lessons learned... <G>
    Hmm? Which 'lessons'? Oh! <jk> And then there's the frustration
    of "well it worked before!" Sometimes can't win.
    So we just take it as it comes, and hope to make progress...
    Am making progress on multiple projects -- would prefer to be able to
    do one or two at a time and get those completed but sometimes have to
    order parts, etc.
    Yup... there are some times when one can go full-speed ahead on just
    one project, and other times when one has to put things on hold for a
    bit and work on something else for a while... :) At least you are
    making progress on all the ones you're working on... ;)
    Well, sort of! I'd like them to go faster/quit throwing those
    annoying detours in my way but that's the way things are. Too easy
    gets boring!

    Besides, you have all this extra time on your hands now, being stuck at
    home... <G>

    And the cats purr and rub along your leg. "Haha, silly human! You
    think this means I love you; it really is me marking you with my scent
    and you're mine!"
    Or some of each.... ;) I did once have a male cat that actually
    "marked" me.... he was my son's cat, and due to my son moving from an
    almost rural area into the inner city (Philly) was about to come home
    with us instead... We went down to help the kid move and all, and
    there, prowling amongst the boxes and other upheavals of the
    apartment, the cat came over to me and sprayed my leg... He'd known
    me from previous visits there... apparently decided to stake a claim
    elsewhere.... ;)
    Uh, nice? Not quite what a human wants from a 'love interest' but
    from the cat perspective was a high compliment.
    It certainly did take me aback at the moment... and then I sorta
    figured out what he was up to... ;) Only did it that once, too... :)
    You learned after the first time to run!

    Actually, it might have been more on the order of your little dog
    jumping up on the sofa... ;) the cat might have done it without really thinking through the ramifications, and then realized, uh-oh... ;)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Thu Apr 16 08:45:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    One hopes to remember the lessons learned... <G>
    Hmm? Which 'lessons'? Oh! <jk> And then there's the frustration
    of "well it worked before!" Sometimes can't win.
    So we just take it as it comes, and hope to make progress...
    Am making progress on multiple projects -- would prefer to be able to
    do one or two at a time and get those completed but sometimes have to
    order parts, etc.
    Yup... there are some times when one can go full-speed ahead on just
    one project, and other times when one has to put things on hold for a
    bit and work on something else for a while... :) At least you are
    making progress on all the ones you're working on... ;)
    Well, sort of! I'd like them to go faster/quit throwing those
    annoying detours in my way but that's the way things are. Too easy
    gets boring!
    Besides, you have all this extra time on your hands now, being
    stuck at home... <G>

    Maybe that's the problem: I'm not getting away to give time to think of
    the solution!

    Did get a couple of minor preparation-type things done last night after
    Autumn went home. One problem I had which doesn't quite make sense is
    the temporary/spare computer didn't have the video output through the
    HDMI switch but did directly (not through the switch). Sort of defeats
    the purpose of the switch. Tested, appears the cable is the problem
    though is one of the amplified types ("Redmere"?).



    And the cats purr and rub along your leg. "Haha, silly human! You
    think this means I love you; it really is me marking you with my scent
    and you're mine!"
    Or some of each.... ;) I did once have a male cat that actually
    "marked" me.... he was my son's cat, and due to my son moving from an
    almost rural area into the inner city (Philly) was about to come home
    with us instead... We went down to help the kid move and all, and
    there, prowling amongst the boxes and other upheavals of the
    apartment, the cat came over to me and sprayed my leg... He'd known
    me from previous visits there... apparently decided to stake a claim
    elsewhere.... ;)
    Uh, nice? Not quite what a human wants from a 'love interest' but
    from the cat perspective was a high compliment.
    It certainly did take me aback at the moment... and then I sorta
    figured out what he was up to... ;) Only did it that once, too... :)
    You learned after the first time to run!
    Actually, it might have been more on the order of your little dog
    jumping up on the sofa... ;) the cat might have done it without
    really thinking through the ramifications, and then realized,
    uh-oh... ;)

    Quite possible: "I thought was a tree! Human was wearing brown pants!".



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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Tue Apr 28 10:19:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    Am making progress on multiple projects -- would prefer to be able to
    do one or two at a time and get those completed but sometimes have to
    order parts, etc.
    Yup... there are some times when one can go full-speed ahead on just
    one project, and other times when one has to put things on hold for a
    bit and work on something else for a while... :) At least you are
    making progress on all the ones you're working on... ;)
    Well, sort of! I'd like them to go faster/quit throwing those
    annoying detours in my way but that's the way things are. Too easy
    gets boring!
    Besides, you have all this extra time on your hands now, being stuck
    at home... <G>
    Maybe that's the problem: I'm not getting away to give time to think
    of the solution!
    So the brain just closes down.... maybe.... ;)

    I don't know about closing down but there atre times when it seems to
    'pull a donkey' and just not want to do anything! Mostly seems to go
    in a loop: I've done this troubleshooting already.


    Did get a couple of minor preparation-type things done last night
    after Autumn went home. One problem I had which doesn't quite make
    sense is the temporary/spare computer didn't have the video output
    through the HDMI switch but did directly (not through the switch).
    Sort of defeats the purpose of the switch. Tested, appears the cable
    is the problem though is one of the amplified types ("Redmere"?).
    Maybe it's too fancy...?? ;)

    Seems to be along those lines: from what I've read either the switch
    doesn't know what to do with the signal or the monitor/TV gets
    'confused' by the new signal suddenly appearing. For me is going to be
    one of those medium-sized Black Boxes: good enough to know the
    combination doesn't work, it's not going to work with a super-duper
    switch, etc.


    And the cats purr and rub along your leg. "Haha, silly human! You
    think this means I love you; it really is me marking you with my scent
    and you're mine!"
    Or some of each.... ;) I did once have a male cat that actually
    "marked" me.... he was my son's cat, and due to my son moving from an
    almost rural area into the inner city (Philly) was about to come home
    with us instead... We went down to help the kid move and all, and
    there, prowling amongst the boxes and other upheavals of the
    apartment, the cat came over to me and sprayed my leg... He'd known
    me from previous visits there... apparently decided to stake a claim
    elsewhere.... ;)
    Uh, nice? Not quite what a human wants from a 'love interest' but
    from the cat perspective was a high compliment.
    It certainly did take me aback at the moment... and then I sorta
    figured out what he was up to... ;) Only did it that once, too... :)
    You learned after the first time to run!
    Actually, it might have been more on the order of your little dog
    jumping up on the sofa... ;) the cat might have done it without really
    thinking through the ramifications, and then realized, uh-oh... ;)
    Quite possible: "I thought was a tree! Human was wearing brown
    pants!".
    Actually, I was probably was bare-legged at the time.... ;) And
    we were inside at the time... ;)

    You were well-tanned... :)



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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Tue May 5 19:39:28 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 28-Apr-2020 10:19 <=-

    project, and other times when one has to put things on hold for a
    bit and work on something else for a while... :) At least you are
    making progress on all the ones you're working on... ;)
    Well, sort of! I'd like them to go faster/quit throwing those
    annoying detours in my way but that's the way things are. Too easy
    gets boring!
    Besides, you have all this extra time on your hands now, being stuck
    at home... <G>
    Maybe that's the problem: I'm not getting away to give time to think
    of the solution!
    So the brain just closes down.... maybe.... ;)
    I don't know about closing down but there are times when it seems to
    'pull a donkey' and just not want to do anything! Mostly seems to go
    in a loop: I've done this troubleshooting already.

    That's not a good sign.... ;0

    Did get a couple of minor preparation-type things done last night
    after Autumn went home. One problem I had which doesn't quite make
    sense is the temporary/spare computer didn't have the video output
    through the HDMI switch but did directly (not through the switch).
    Sort of defeats the purpose of the switch. Tested, appears the cable
    is the problem though is one of the amplified types ("Redmere"?).
    Maybe it's too fancy...?? ;)
    Seems to be along those lines: from what I've read either the switch doesn't know what to do with the signal or the monitor/TV gets
    'confused' by the new signal suddenly appearing. For me is going to
    be one of those medium-sized Black Boxes: good enough to know the combination doesn't work, it's not going to work with a super-duper switch, etc.

    So you might as well abandon that line of experiment... ;)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Wed May 6 10:09:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    project, and other times when one has to put things on hold for a
    bit and work on something else for a while... :) At least you are
    making progress on all the ones you're working on... ;)
    Well, sort of! I'd like them to go faster/quit throwing those
    annoying detours in my way but that's the way things are. Too easy
    gets boring!
    Besides, you have all this extra time on your hands now, being stuck
    at home... <G>
    Maybe that's the problem: I'm not getting away to give time to think
    of the solution!
    So the brain just closes down.... maybe.... ;)
    I don't know about closing down but there are times when it seems to
    'pull a donkey' and just not want to do anything! Mostly seems to go
    in a loop: I've done this troubleshooting already.
    That's not a good sign.... ;0

    Sometimes not: occasionally realize I overlooked something or didn't do
    the test correctly though to frequently just a loop - time to set the
    project aside for a bit.


    Did get a couple of minor preparation-type things done last night
    after Autumn went home. One problem I had which doesn't quite make
    sense is the temporary/spare computer didn't have the video output
    through the HDMI switch but did directly (not through the switch).
    Sort of defeats the purpose of the switch. Tested, appears the cable
    is the problem though is one of the amplified types ("Redmere"?).
    Maybe it's too fancy...?? ;)
    Seems to be along those lines: from what I've read either the switch doesn't know what to do with the signal or the monitor/TV gets
    'confused' by the new signal suddenly appearing. For me is going to
    be one of those medium-sized Black Boxes: good enough to know the combination doesn't work, it's not going to work with a super-duper switch, etc.
    So you might as well abandon that line of experiment... ;)

    Essentially yes, though the experiment is essentially concluded as what
    is available currently doesn't work that way. I now know to not use
    Redmere HDMI cables with video switches.



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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Tue May 12 18:28:46 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 06-May-2020 10:09 <=-

    I'd like them to go faster/quit throwing those annoying detours in
    my way but that's the way things are. Too easy gets boring!
    Besides, you have all this extra time on your hands now, being stuck
    at home... <G>
    Maybe that's the problem: I'm not getting away to give time to think
    of the solution!
    So the brain just closes down.... maybe.... ;)
    I don't know about closing down but there are times when it seems to
    'pull a donkey' and just not want to do anything! Mostly seems to go
    in a loop: I've done this troubleshooting already.
    That's not a good sign.... ;0
    Sometimes not: occasionally realize I overlooked something or didn't
    do the test correctly though too frequently just a loop - time to set
    the project aside for a bit.

    Gives the brain a chance to reset for that problem... :)

    Did get a couple of minor preparation-type things done last night
    after Autumn went home. One problem I had which doesn't quite make
    sense is the temporary/spare computer didn't have the video output
    through the HDMI switch but did directly (not through the switch).
    Sort of defeats the purpose of the switch. Tested, appears the cable
    is the problem though is one of the amplified types ("Redmere"?).
    Maybe it's too fancy...?? ;)
    Seems to be along those lines: from what I've read either the switch
    doesn't know what to do with the signal or the monitor/TV gets
    'confused' by the new signal suddenly appearing. For me is going to
    be one of those medium-sized Black Boxes: good enough to know the
    combination doesn't work, it's not going to work with a super-duper
    switch, etc.
    So you might as well abandon that line of experiment... ;)
    Essentially yes, though the experiment is essentially concluded as
    what is available currently doesn't work that way. I now know to not
    use Redmere HDMI cables with video switches.

    Something useful came out of the fiasco... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Wed May 13 08:47:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    I'd like them to go faster/quit throwing those annoying detours in
    my way but that's the way things are. Too easy gets boring!
    Besides, you have all this extra time on your hands now, being stuck
    at home... <G>
    Maybe that's the problem: I'm not getting away to give time to think
    of the solution!
    So the brain just closes down.... maybe.... ;)
    I don't know about closing down but there are times when it seems to
    'pull a donkey' and just not want to do anything! Mostly seems to go
    in a loop: I've done this troubleshooting already.
    That's not a good sign.... ;0
    Sometimes not: occasionally realize I overlooked something or didn't
    do the test correctly though too frequently just a loop - time to set
    the project aside for a bit.
    Gives the brain a chance to reset for that problem... :)

    Hopefully it does!



    Did get a couple of minor preparation-type things done last night
    after Autumn went home. One problem I had which doesn't quite make
    sense is the temporary/spare computer didn't have the video output
    through the HDMI switch but did directly (not through the switch).
    Sort of defeats the purpose of the switch. Tested, appears the cable
    is the problem though is one of the amplified types ("Redmere"?).
    Maybe it's too fancy...?? ;)
    Seems to be along those lines: from what I've read either the switch
    doesn't know what to do with the signal or the monitor/TV gets
    'confused' by the new signal suddenly appearing. For me is going to
    be one of those medium-sized Black Boxes: good enough to know the
    combination doesn't work, it's not going to work with a super-duper
    switch, etc.
    So you might as well abandon that line of experiment... ;)
    Essentially yes, though the experiment is essentially concluded as
    what is available currently doesn't work that way. I now know to not
    use Redmere HDMI cables with video switches.
    Something useful came out of the fiasco... :)

    True! And good to know a lot of others are having the same problem,
    which hopefully will also lead to the manufacturers of the Redmere cables and/or the HDMI video switches to fix the problem.



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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Thu May 21 17:34:14 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 13-May-2020 08:47 <=-

    Seems to be along those lines: from what I've read either the switch
    doesn't know what to do with the signal or the monitor/TV gets
    'confused' by the new signal suddenly appearing. For me is going to
    be one of those medium-sized Black Boxes: good enough to know the
    combination doesn't work, it's not going to work with a super-duper
    switch, etc.
    So you might as well abandon that line of experiment... ;)
    Essentially yes, though the experiment is essentially concluded as
    what is available currently doesn't work that way. I now know to not
    use Redmere HDMI cables with video switches.
    Something useful came out of the fiasco... :)
    True! And good to know a lot of others are having the same problem,
    which hopefully will also lead to the manufacturers of the Redmere
    cables and/or the HDMI video switches to fix the problem.

    One can hope, anyway.... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Fri May 22 11:44:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    Seems to be along those lines: from what I've read either the switch
    doesn't know what to do with the signal or the monitor/TV gets
    'confused' by the new signal suddenly appearing. For me is going to
    be one of those medium-sized Black Boxes: good enough to know the
    combination doesn't work, it's not going to work with a super-duper
    switch, etc.
    So you might as well abandon that line of experiment... ;)
    Essentially yes, though the experiment is essentially concluded as
    what is available currently doesn't work that way. I now know to not
    use Redmere HDMI cables with video switches.
    Something useful came out of the fiasco... :)
    True! And good to know a lot of others are having the same problem,
    which hopefully will also lead to the manufacturers of the Redmere
    cables and/or the HDMI video switches to fix the problem.
    One can hope, anyway.... :)

    I couldn't remember why I bought the Redmere (amplified) cables in the
    first place; only longish run is in the Living Room and that's fine; up
    here in the Computer Room from the test/working-on area to the Computer
    Desk is a little longer and that probably was OK, or at least is now.
    Maybe bought an amplifed cable to prevent a problem but created one.
    Possibly I had patech together a couple of short cables I had on hand,
    decided to do it right and read long cable can create signal issues so
    decided on the amplifed cable. Oh well.



    ... All probabilities are 50%. Either a thing will happen or it
    won't.

    A very accurate statement!



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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Wed Jun 3 20:02:16 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 22-May-2020 11:44 <=-

    So you might as well abandon that line of experiment... ;)
    Essentially yes, though the experiment is essentially concluded as
    what is available currently doesn't work that way. I now know to not
    use Redmere HDMI cables with video switches.
    Something useful came out of the fiasco... :)
    True! And good to know a lot of others are having the same problem,
    which hopefully will also lead to the manufacturers of the Redmere
    cables and/or the HDMI video switches to fix the problem.
    One can hope, anyway.... :)
    I couldn't remember why I bought the Redmere (amplified) cables in the first place; only longish run is in the Living Room and that's fine;
    up here in the Computer Room from the test/working-on area to the
    Computer Desk is a little longer and that probably was OK, or at least
    is now. Maybe bought an amplifed cable to prevent a problem but created one. Possibly I had patched together a couple of short cables I had on hand, decided to do it right and read long cable can create signal
    issues so decided on the amplifed cable. Oh well.

    All history now... <G>

    ... All probabilities are 50%. Either a thing will happen or it won't.
    A very accurate statement!

    And somewhat applies to the above discussion, besides... ;)

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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Thu Jul 9 20:24:36 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 29-Jun-2020 11:10 <=-

    Pretty much. Suppose the Good News is did learn the amplified Redmere
    cables are good for long distances as long as not into a switch, need
    to be connected directly.
    Now you know... :) And don't need to toss them, just use in an
    application where it would be called for... ;)
    Right. The cables work fine, just not with a switch. No reason to
    toss; not sure where I would be using them in the future but have them
    (IIRC just two) for some to be determined use.
    Some day you'll have the proper use for them... ;)
    (Oddly that single line comment seems familiar.)

    A common thought for those that tend not to toss things...? ;)

    Yes, the cables will not be thrown out/recycled but stored in the box
    with the spares. If for some reason do need to use where a switch is installed just have to do it the hard way and use a coupler (F-F
    adapter) to bypass the switch until the proper cable arrives.

    So useful, even in some temporary situations... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Fri Jul 10 09:21:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    Pretty much. Suppose the Good News is did learn the amplified Redmere
    cables are good for long distances as long as not into a switch, need
    to be connected directly.
    Now you know... :) And don't need to toss them, just use in an
    application where it would be called for... ;)
    Right. The cables work fine, just not with a switch. No reason to
    toss; not sure where I would be using them in the future but have them
    (IIRC just two) for some to be determined use.
    Some day you'll have the proper use for them... ;)
    (Oddly that single line comment seems familiar.)
    A common thought for those that tend not to toss things...? ;)

    Probably!


    Yes, the cables will not be thrown out/recycled but stored in the box
    with the spares. If for some reason do need to use where a switch is installed just have to do it the hard way and use a coupler (F-F
    adapter) to bypass the switch until the proper cable arrives.
    So useful, even in some temporary situations... :)

    Potentially, yes. And the possibilty I'm helping someone with their
    setup and they need a cable -- "here!".


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  • From Nancy Backus@454:1/452 to Barry Martin on Wed Aug 5 20:05:52 2020
    Quoting Barry Martin to Nancy Backus on 10-Jul-2020 09:21 <=-

    Yes, the cables will not be thrown out/recycled but stored in the box
    with the spares. If for some reason do need to use where a switch is
    installed just have to do it the hard way and use a coupler (F-F
    adapter) to bypass the switch until the proper cable arrives.
    So useful, even in some temporary situations... :)
    Potentially, yes. And the possibilty I'm helping someone with their
    setup and they need a cable -- "here!".

    There is that, too... :)

    ... If you can't sleep at night it's because you're still awake.
    Amazing how simple things are once the reason is explained!

    I know... it is amazing, isn't it... ;)

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  • From Barry Martin@454:1/1 to Nancy Backus on Thu Aug 6 08:38:00 2020

    Hi Nancy!

    Yes, the cables will not be thrown out/recycled but stored in the box
    with the spares. If for some reason do need to use where a switch is
    installed just have to do it the hard way and use a coupler (F-F
    adapter) to bypass the switch until the proper cable arrives.
    So useful, even in some temporary situations... :)
    Potentially, yes. And the possibilty I'm helping someone with their
    setup and they need a cable -- "here!".
    There is that, too... :)

    So far taking up room in the storage box.


    ... If you can't sleep at night it's because you're still awake.
    Amazing how simple things are once the reason is explained!
    I know... it is amazing, isn't it... ;)

    Some complicated things are really simple!


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