• Strange New Worlds

    From Avon@21:1/101 to All on Fri May 6 14:54:12 2022
    Saw the first episode of this show last night. I enjoyed it. It was back to the formula of old used in the TOS and it felt fresh and not too try hard.

    I think they have a lot of ground and cannon they can cover and leverage off for the series and also for other seasons that may follow.

    The dynamic between the initial lead actors introduced in episode one was good and bodes well.

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  • From claw@21:1/210 to Avon on Fri May 6 07:47:30 2022
    On 06 May 2022, Avon said the following...
    Saw the first episode of this show last night. I enjoyed it. It was back to the formula of old used in the TOS and it felt fresh and not too try hard.

    I think they have a lot of ground and cannon they can cover and leverage off for the series and also for other seasons that may follow.

    What service has this? Nice to see you on. Hope things are normalizing for you.

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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to Avon on Fri May 6 09:41:46 2022
    Re: Strange New Worlds
    By: Avon to All on Fri May 06 2022 02:54 pm

    Saw the first episode of this show last night. I enjoyed it. It was back to the formula of old used in the TOS and it felt fresh and not too try hard.

    I feel like they're perhaps doing a bit too much with the TOS era and prequels in Star Trek. First there was Star Trek: Enterprise (2001-2005), then the rebooted JJ Abrams Star Trek movies, then Discovery, and now Strange New Worlds.. It's fine, but I'm glad they're also making something in the TNG era (Star Trek: Picard and Lower Decks). I also wouldn't mind seeing something filling in the gap between TOS and TNG. We never did see much of the Enterprise B or C.

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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to claw on Fri May 6 09:43:10 2022
    Re: Re: Strange New Worlds
    By: claw to Avon on Fri May 06 2022 07:47 am

    Saw the first episode of this show last night. I enjoyed it. It was
    back to the formula of old used in the TOS and it felt fresh and not
    too try hard.

    What service has this?

    BitTorrent. Er, I mean, it looks like it's available on Paramount+.

    Nightfox
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  • From claw@21:1/210 to Nightfox on Fri May 6 23:00:47 2022
    BitTorrent. Er, I mean, it looks like it's available on Paramount+.

    Nightfox

    Nice Yeah I can wait. I'll get it on Amazon once its just for purchase.

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  • From Geri Atricks@21:4/102 to claw on Fri May 6 09:19:07 2022
    What service has this? Nice to see you on. Hope things are normalizing for you.

    It's on Paramount+.

    I really liked it and am looking forward to the future episodes.

    The season finale of Picard was really good too.
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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to Geri Atricks on Sat May 7 10:38:08 2022
    Re: Re: Strange New Worlds
    By: Geri Atricks to claw on Fri May 06 2022 09:19 am

    I really liked it and am looking forward to the future episodes.

    I haven't watched it yet but am interested in checking it out.

    The season finale of Picard was really good too.

    I've heard that. I'm currently at episode 3 of Picard season 2.

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  • From Geri Atricks@21:4/102 to claw on Sat May 7 09:05:35 2022
    Nice Yeah I can wait. I'll get it on Amazon once its just for purchase.

    Being a Paramount property, that means the disks will be way over priced.
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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to claw on Sun May 8 15:53:48 2022
    On 06 May 2022 at 07:47a, claw pondered and said...

    What service has this? Nice to see you on. Hope things are normalizing for you.

    Hi there :)

    Well I'm in New Zealand and luckily our free to air national broadcaster Television New Zealand has started offering it at no cost via their streaming platform TNVZ OnDemand.

    Normalizing... yeah kind of, I'm just taking it day/week at a time for now as there seems to be enough balls in the air these days. But when I am in the mood for some BBSing downtime it's jolly fun to pop into echomail and chat :)

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Nightfox on Sun May 8 15:58:44 2022
    On 06 May 2022 at 09:41a, Nightfox pondered and said...

    I feel like they're perhaps doing a bit too much with the TOS era and prequels in Star Trek. First there was Star Trek: Enterprise
    (2001-2005), then the rebooted JJ Abrams Star Trek movies, then
    Discovery, and now Strange New Worlds.. It's fine, but I'm glad they're also making something in the TNG era (Star Trek: Picard and Lower
    Decks). I also wouldn't mind seeing something filling in the gap
    between TOS and TNG. We never did see much of the Enterprise B or C.

    Yes it seems to be easier to go back in time and write to that era rather than look ahead which is kinda ironic given how look ahead TOS was for it's time.

    I felt Enterprise was always a bit weak in terms of plots and creative juices in the scripts, and by then Berman and his crew had generated and shepherded a number of ST projects through from conception to fully developed project... but by the time of Enterprise it seemed to me the well was running dry.

    I have never liked the JJ stuff/alternative time concepts for Trek although I did appreciate being able to watch some Trek :)

    Yes to you thoughts about TNG and between Enterprise B or C..

    I am enjoying the current visual FX used in SNW

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Geri Atricks on Sun May 8 15:59:32 2022

    On 06 May 2022 at 09:19a, Geri Atricks pondered and said...
    It's on Paramount+.

    The season finale of Picard was really good too.

    Is Picard on Paramount+ or Amazon in the USA?

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  • From claw@21:1/210 to Avon on Sun May 8 16:04:20 2022
    On 08 May 2022, Avon said the following...

    Hi there :)

    Well I'm in New Zealand and luckily our free to air national broadcaster Television New Zealand has started offering it at no cost via their streaming platform TNVZ OnDemand.

    Normalizing... yeah kind of, I'm just taking it day/week at a time for
    now as there seems to be enough balls in the air these days. But when I
    am in the mood for some BBSing downtime it's jolly fun to pop into echomail and chat :)

    Thats good to hear. Felt pretty bad asking for all the help after finding out what you were going through. It does get better as time goes on. Learning Python now and ordered a C++ book I want to start working on making doors and mods. Been loving having access to the network. Once your time is a bit more freed up I would like your help with the nodelist issue. Seems not even g00r00 knows how to address it. I would also love to learn more about how the fido technology actually works. I'm super nerdy so like digging in and learning it. Thanks for getting on to catch us up.

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  • From claw@21:1/210 to Avon on Sun May 8 16:06:17 2022
    Is Picard on Paramount+ or Amazon in the USA?


    Its only viewable on Amazon if you link your Paramount account to it. Typically you will be able to just purchase it at sometime. Cheaper than a monthly subscription. Might drop one and get paramount as I see many people talking about how great it is. Well see.

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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to Avon on Mon May 9 08:54:16 2022
    Re: Re: Trek in general
    By: Avon to Nightfox on Sun May 08 2022 03:58 pm

    I felt Enterprise was always a bit weak in terms of plots and creative juices in the scripts, and by then Berman and his crew had generated and shepherded a number of ST projects through from conception to fully developed project... but by the time of Enterprise it seemed to me the well was running dry.

    I thought Enterprise actually had some interesting plots and episodes, and it seemed to be picking up in season 4. I would have been curious to see more of the show. And more recently, I've heard they were going to supposedly show a refit Enterprise NX-01 with a secondary hull, which would have looked more like the Constitution class and other ships that came later.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Avon on Mon May 9 06:58:00 2022
    Avon wrote to Geri Atricks <=-


    On 06 May 2022 at 09:19a, Geri Atricks pondered and said...
    It's on Paramount+.

    The season finale of Picard was really good too.

    Is Picard on Paramount+ or Amazon in the USA?

    Spoiler Space...





























    Wesley says that the last time he told a joke he inadvertanly changed
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    Did he make the Kelvin universe?

    I would have loved for him to pop in on Picard, say hi.



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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Nightfox on Mon May 9 07:08:00 2022
    Nightfox wrote to Avon <=-

    Re: Strange New Worlds
    By: Avon to All on Fri May 06 2022 02:54 pm

    Saw the first episode of this show last night. I enjoyed it. It was back to the formula of old used in the TOS and it felt fresh and not too try hard.
    Lower Decks). I also wouldn't mind seeing something filling in the gap between TOS and TNG. We never did see much of the Enterprise B or C.

    Paramount blew that - fans wanted an "Excelsior" show with George
    Takei as Captain Sulu. They had an opening for it after Star Trek 6,
    and it would have been great.



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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to poindexter FORTRAN on Tue May 10 09:12:47 2022
    Re: Re: Strange New Worlds
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Mon May 09 2022 07:08 am

    Paramount blew that - fans wanted an "Excelsior" show with George
    Takei as Captain Sulu. They had an opening for it after Star Trek 6,
    and it would have been great.

    That would have been interesting.

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  • From Geri Atricks@21:4/102 to Avon on Wed May 11 01:19:20 2022
    Is Picard on Paramount+ or Amazon in the USA?

    Paramount+
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  • From Geri Atricks@21:4/102 to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed May 11 01:21:18 2022
    Did he make the Kelvin universe?

    This would explain SOOOO much! :D
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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to Geri Atricks on Wed May 11 09:38:12 2022
    Re: Re: Picard
    By: Geri Atricks to Avon on Wed May 11 2022 01:19 am

    Is Picard on Paramount+ or Amazon in the USA?

    Paramount+

    I thought it was on CBS All Access.. At least, I thought season 1 was.
    I'm not even sure who owns what Star Trek rights anymore.. I knew Paramount owned some of it and CBS owned some of it..

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  • From Blue White@21:4/134 to Nightfox on Wed May 11 16:23:34 2022
    Nightfox wrote to Geri Atricks <=-

    Re: Re: Picard
    By: Geri Atricks to Avon on Wed May 11 2022 01:19 am

    Is Picard on Paramount+ or Amazon in the USA?

    Paramount+

    I thought it was on CBS All Access.. At least, I thought season 1 was. I'm not even sure who owns what Star Trek rights anymore.. I knew Paramount owned some of it and CBS owned some of it..

    Didn't CBS All Access go out of business in favor of Paramount+?


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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to Blue White on Wed May 11 18:43:32 2022
    Re: Re: Picard
    By: Blue White to Nightfox on Wed May 11 2022 04:23 pm

    I thought it was on CBS All Access.. At least, I thought season 1
    was. I'm not even sure who owns what Star Trek rights anymore.. I
    knew Paramount owned some of it and CBS owned some of it..

    Didn't CBS All Access go out of business in favor of Paramount+?

    I haven't followed it, so I don't know. I just looked it up, and it sounds like they didn't go out of business, but rather CBS merged back into Viacom and was integrated with some other content brands to become Paramount+.

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to claw on Sun May 22 12:03:11 2022
    On 08 May 2022 at 04:04p, claw pondered and said...

    Normalizing... yeah kind of, I'm just taking it day/week at a time fo now as there seems to be enough balls in the air these days. But when am in the mood for some BBSing downtime it's jolly fun to pop into echomail and chat :)

    Thats good to hear. Felt pretty bad asking for all the help after
    finding out what you were going through. It does get better as time
    goes on. Learning Python now and ordered a C++ book I want to start working on making doors and mods. Been loving having access to the

    I'm glad you're enjoying BBSing and having fun with it. Yep when time allows it can be a nice hobby for the most part :)

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to claw on Sun May 22 12:04:11 2022
    On 08 May 2022 at 04:06p, claw pondered and said...

    Is Picard on Paramount+ or Amazon in the USA?
    Its only viewable on Amazon if you link your Paramount account to it. Typically you will be able to just purchase it at sometime. Cheaper
    than a monthly subscription. Might drop one and get paramount as I see many people talking about how great it is. Well see.

    OK thanks for the info, yes I am not on Amazon so at present can't watch it. I did get a copy of Season 1 of Picard and quite liked it. Sounds like season 3 will be full of TNG folks

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Nightfox on Sun May 22 12:05:42 2022
    On 09 May 2022 at 08:54a, Nightfox pondered and said...

    I felt Enterprise was always a bit weak in terms of plots and creativ juices in the scripts, and by then Berman and his crew had generated shepherded a number of ST projects through from conception to fully developed project... but by the time of Enterprise it seemed to me th well was running dry.

    I thought Enterprise actually had some interesting plots and episodes,
    and it seemed to be picking up in season 4. I would have been curious
    to see more of the show. And more recently, I've heard they were going
    to supposedly show a refit Enterprise NX-01 with a secondary hull, which would have looked more like the Constitution class and other ships that came later.

    I should probably rewatch Enterprise sometime and give it another crack. I do think the time spent in decontamination bays was just eye candy stuff that didn't advance the plots much but made some guys very happy I guess :)

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun May 22 12:06:17 2022
    On 09 May 2022 at 06:58a, poindexter FORTRAN pondered and said...

    Spoiler Space...

    Thanks :)

    ..and I don't know as I haven't watched S2

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun May 22 12:07:09 2022
    On 09 May 2022 at 07:08a, poindexter FORTRAN pondered and said...

    Paramount blew that - fans wanted an "Excelsior" show with George
    Takei as Captain Sulu. They had an opening for it after Star Trek 6,
    and it would have been great.

    I wonder if they would still look to bring him back and do a cameo in one of the current shows. Sort of like how they did for the start of TNG with Bones.

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Geri Atricks on Sun May 22 12:08:13 2022
    On 11 May 2022 at 01:19a, Geri Atricks pondered and said...

    Is Picard on Paramount+ or Amazon in the USA?

    Paramount+

    Thanks, that would explain why our free to air national broadcaster has access to such content here in New Zealand. At present Paramount+ does not operate in NZ

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Blue White on Sun May 22 12:08:42 2022
    On 11 May 2022 at 04:23p, Blue White pondered and said...

    Didn't CBS All Access go out of business in favor of Paramount+?

    It was a rebrand / relaunch I think??

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Avon on Sun May 22 09:05:00 2022
    Avon wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    I wonder if they would still look to bring him back and do a cameo in
    one of the current shows. Sort of like how they did for the start of
    TNG with Bones.

    One of the You Tube fan shows (Star Trek: New Voyages?) had an episode
    with a storyline where the younger Sulu actor gets caught in a time
    loop and comes out 30 years later, played by a feral looking George
    Takei. The last scene is a set on the Excelsior with Sulu as captain
    and with Grace Lee Whitney playing Rand.

    Nicely done.



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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Avon on Sun May 22 09:06:00 2022
    Avon wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    I wonder if they would still look to bring him back and do a cameo in
    one of the current shows. Sort of like how they did for the start of
    TNG with Bones.

    Discovery and Strange New Worlds are TOS prequels, Sulu would have
    been younger.



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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Avon on Sun May 22 09:10:00 2022
    Avon wrote to Nightfox <=-

    I should probably rewatch Enterprise sometime and give it another
    crack. I do think the time spent in decontamination bays was just eye candy stuff that didn't advance the plots much but made some guys very happy I guess :)

    I'd think porn producers would have a field day making a parody.

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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon May 23 15:28:15 2022
    Re: Re: Strange New Worlds
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Avon on Sun May 22 2022 09:06 am

    Discovery and Strange New Worlds are TOS prequels, Sulu would have
    been younger.

    We've had Star Trek: Enterprise, then Discovery and now Strange New Worlds. How many prequels do we need? Over the years, I've started to feel like the prequel trend is a bit cliche, though I feel like Strange New Worlds isn't bad so far. And as I say that, I would be interested in seeing some Star Trek taking place between TOS and TNG, with the Enterprise B or C.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Nightfox on Mon May 23 19:23:36 2022
    Re: Re: Strange New Worlds
    By: Nightfox to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon May 23 2022 03:28 pm

    We've had Star Trek: Enterprise, then Discovery and now Strange New Worlds. How many prequels do we need? Over the years, I've started to feel like the prequel trend is a bit cliche, though I feel like Strange New Worlds isn't bad so far. And as I say that, I would be interested in seeing some Star Trek taking place between TOS and TNG, with the Enterprise B or C.

    Agreed, regarding that tos to tng timeline.

    There are a ton of prequels, but there's also a literal galaxy of stories to tell.
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  • From bamageek@21:1/140 to Nightfox on Tue May 24 09:53:34 2022
    We've had Star Trek: Enterprise, then Discovery and now Strange New Worlds. How many prequels do we need? Over the years, I've started to feel like the prequel trend is a bit cliche, though I feel like Strange New Worlds isn't bad so far. And as I say that, I would be interested
    in seeing some Star Trek taking place between TOS and TNG, with the Enterprise B or C.


    So far I'm enjoying Strange New Worlds. I hadn't seen Discovery before so some of the first episode didn't make much sense to me, so I binge watched Discovery before the second episode came out. Made a bit more sense after that.

    Its kinda funny watching the origional ST Pilot and seeing the uniforms then and now. :)

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to bamageek on Tue May 24 11:42:32 2022
    Re: Re: Strange New Worlds
    By: bamageek to Nightfox on Tue May 24 2022 09:53 am

    Its kinda funny watching the origional ST Pilot and seeing the uniforms then and now. :)

    If you're in Seattle, plan a stop at the Science Fiction museum there. They have a treasure trove of old props on display. Some of the uniforms from TOS look like something from a middle school play - but then again, when it aired, some people had black and white 13" TVs.
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  • From Geri Atricks@21:4/102 to Nightfox on Mon May 16 19:23:39 2022
    I thought it was on CBS All Access.. At least, I thought season 1 was. I'm not even sure who owns what Star Trek rights anymore.. I knew Paramount owned some of it and CBS owned some of it..

    As far as I know there is no more "CBS All Access". I think Paramount owns CBS as well as a couple of other networks. All the CBS shows are available on Paramount+.
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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to Geri Atricks on Sun May 29 12:04:21 2022
    Re: Re: Picard
    By: Geri Atricks to Nightfox on Mon May 16 2022 07:23 pm

    I thought it was on CBS All Access.. At least, I thought season 1
    was. I'm not even sure who owns what Star Trek rights anymore.. I
    knew Paramount owned some of it and CBS owned some of it..

    As far as I know there is no more "CBS All Access". I think Paramount owns CBS as well as a couple of other networks. All the CBS shows are available on Paramount+.

    Yeah, I wasn't aware that had happened. It's interesting, because I thought I had heard Paramount owned the rights to the movies and CBS owned the rights to the TV shows. It sounds like it's all under Paramount now, so I wonder if there will be fewer problems with copyrights throughout the Star Trek franchise.

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  • From Geri Atricks@21:4/102 to Nightfox on Sun May 29 14:51:04 2022
    so I wonder if there will be fewer problems with
    copyrights throughout the Star Trek franchise.

    One would sure hope.
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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Geri Atricks on Sun Jun 5 08:21:00 2022
    Geri Atricks wrote to Nightfox <=-

    so I wonder if there will be fewer problems with
    copyrights throughout the Star Trek franchise.

    One would sure hope.

    Now, the suit against the people doing Axanar makes more sense - didn't want anything conflicting with Strange New Worlds, since they happen in
    relatively the same time frame.

    Paramount came out with all sorts of rules, I think one of them was that TV/movie actors weren't allowed to do indie productions. Don't know if that would hold up in a court, but you'd easily find yourself unemployed by Paramount productions.

    I did like that Paramount claimed copyright over several Star Trek cultural items, including the Klingon language. The defense proved that qualified as
    a language because of external use and that it couldn't be copyrighted.

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to ACMEBBS on Sun Jul 3 16:07:41 2022
    On 30 Jun 2022 at 05:01a, ACMEBBS pondered and said...

    Because of you & others...have gotten Star Trek Strange New Worlds to the current episode. Can't believe they were able (IMOW) made a series which feels very close to the original series from the late 60's. To call me impressed would be mild.

    Yeah same, it's nice because they have a good cast, nice characters being developed, an episodic format of old, which I love... nice looking visuals (well I like them) and bugger me if the dam theme is getting stuck in my head too :)

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  • From ACMEBBS@21:4/10 to Avon on Tue Jul 5 11:10:00 2022
    On Sun Jul 3 16:07:00 2022, Avon wrote to ACMEBBS <=-

    Because of you & others...have gotten Star Trek Strange New Worlds to the
    current episode. Can't believe they were able (IMOW) made a series which
    feels very close to the original series from the late 60's. To call me impressed would be mild.

    Yeah same, it's nice because they have a good cast, nice characters being developed, an episodic format of old, which I love... nice looking visuals (well I like them) and bugger me if the dam theme is getting stuck in my head
    too :)

    Here as well! Plus...love how it all ties together with the original series. For instance...what's the future of Pike and those he helps.

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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to ACMEBBS on Tue Jul 5 13:52:00 2022
    Re: Re: Strange New Worlds
    By: ACMEBBS to Avon on Tue Jul 05 2022 11:10 am

    Yeah same, it's nice because they have a good cast, nice characters
    being developed, an episodic format of old, which I love... nice
    looking visuals (well I like them) and bugger me if the dam theme is
    getting stuck in my head too :)

    Here as well! Plus...love how it all ties together with the original series. For instance...what's the future of Pike and those he helps.

    We all know what happens to Pike in the future (it was part of TOS, and a focus of the first episode of Strange New Worlds as well). But I'm enjoying the show and am looking forward to see what happens in future episodes.

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  • From ACMEBBS@21:4/10 to Nightfox on Thu Jul 7 03:09:00 2022
    On Tue Jul 5 13:52:00 2022, Nightfox wrote to ACMEBBS <=-

    Here as well! Plus...love how it all ties together with the original series. For instance...what's the future of Pike and those he helps.

    We all know what happens to Pike in the future (it was part of TOS, and a focus
    of the first episode of Strange New Worlds as well). But I'm enjoying the show
    and am looking forward to see what happens in future episodes.

    Feel the same way as well. The writing/acting reminds me of TOS...unlike other series through the years. Add to that...our tech having improved in the time of TOS until now...they have used this very nicely...but still holding onto the TOS universe. For instance...the lifts have the same "broom" handle as TOS. Little stuff like this just blew me away.

    For instance...watched the last episode last night before hitting the sack. Thought I was almost watching the original "Alien". My jaw hit the floor. When they tied up the ends...blew me away how it all has come to this episode.

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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to ACMEBBS on Thu Jul 7 08:56:10 2022
    Re: Re: Strange New Worlds
    By: ACMEBBS to Nightfox on Thu Jul 07 2022 03:09 am

    Feel the same way as well. The writing/acting reminds me of TOS...unlike other series through the years. Add to that...our tech having improved in the time of TOS until now...they have used this very nicely...but still holding onto the TOS universe. For instance...the lifts have the same "broom" handle as TOS. Little stuff like this just blew me away.

    I noticed that too. And the console in front of the captain's chair has the same red/grey colors. They use some of the same chairs too. But I think it's a little odd that the inside of the ship is pretty much totally redesigned compared to the original TOS Enterprise.

    I feel like there is a lot of Kirk-era Star Trek that has been produced since the first JJ Abrams movie. I feel like we had already seen a lot of Kirk-era Star Trek, and there is other untapped story potential. We haven't seen much of the Enterprise B or C at all, and I wouldn't mind a movie or TV series based on either of those ships.

    I'm glad they're also making Star Trek: Picard (though I feel like it could have been better).

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  • From nblade@21:3/170 to Nightfox on Thu Jul 7 23:09:42 2022
    I noticed that too. And the console in front of the captain's chair has t same red/grey colors. They use some of the same chairs too. But I think a little odd that the inside of the ship is pretty much totally redesigned compared to the original TOS Enterprise.

    I got lucky to watch a few episodes at an AirBnb that had P+. I have to say that I do like the show (what I've seen). I do agree the ship internally is mostly a redesign. I mean it looks much bigger. Still I think that's just a matter of modern set designs and want to have more space for the action. I mean the crew quaters alone are the size of stuff seen on STNG.

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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to nblade on Thu Jul 7 16:07:43 2022
    Re: Re: Strange New Worlds
    By: nblade to Nightfox on Thu Jul 07 2022 11:09 pm

    I got lucky to watch a few episodes at an AirBnb that had P+. I have to say that I do like the show (what I've seen). I do agree the ship internally is mostly a redesign. I mean it looks much bigger. Still I think that's just a matter of modern set designs and want to have more space for the action. I mean the crew quaters alone are the size of stuff seen on STNG.

    It still feels like it's a little hard to reconcile that with TOS. It almost feels like this Enterprise is a different ship.

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  • From nblade@21:3/170 to Nightfox on Fri Jul 8 14:54:26 2022

    It still feels like it's a little hard to reconcile that with TOS. It almost feels like this Enterprise is a different ship.

    I actually get what you are saying there. It does in many ways feel that way. In many ways, the TOS ship was more akin to what I saw in the Navy. Smaller cramped spaces and not much in th way of color (aka most things were a shade of grey)> SNW's Enterprise is much bigger I think you can blame the recent moveies for that. At the end of the day, thought I'm just rolling with it. After all it's just a TV show.

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  • From ACMEBBS@21:4/10 to Nightfox on Sat Jul 9 02:30:00 2022
    On Thu Jul 7 08:56:00 2022, Nightfox wrote to ACMEBBS <=-

    Feel the same way as well. The writing/acting reminds me of TOS...unlike
    other series through the years. Add to that...our tech having improved in
    the time of TOS until now...they have used this very nicely...but still holding onto the TOS universe. For instance...the lifts have the same "broom" handle as TOS. Little stuff like this just blew me away.

    I noticed that too. And the console in front of the captain's chair has the
    same red/grey colors. They use some of the same chairs too. But I think it's
    a little odd that the inside of the ship is pretty much totally redesigned compared to the original TOS Enterprise.

    Very true. Engineering looks huge...compared to TNG & such. Ever since Wrath of Khan...feels like engineering is pretty small compared to this version of engineering. Looking at Pike's quarters...compared to The Cage/Abrams version...almost looks like a luxury apartment with a fire place/kitchen.

    Just noticed it as well...they actually built two turbolift openings...rather than the one.

    I feel like there is a lot of Kirk-era Star Trek that has been produced since
    the first JJ Abrams movie. I feel like we had already seen a lot of Kirk-era
    Star Trek, and there is other untapped story potential. We haven't seen much
    of the Enterprise B or C at all, and I wouldn't mind a movie or TV series based
    on either of those ships.

    Nice idea...especially when we saw such a small portion in Generations at the start of the movie.

    I'm glad they're also making Star Trek: Picard (though I feel like it could have been better).

    Was impressed of the 1st season...but haven't sat down to watch the 2nd season...even though I have a copy of it. For that matter...still haven't gone over the 2nd season of The Mandoloran. Gotta find the time to make it through Discovery or The Orville past the 1st season.

    On the other hand...am caught up on Solar Opposites/Rick & Morty. Guess it has to be those were only around 20 minutes. ;)

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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to ACMEBBS on Sat Jul 9 09:44:38 2022
    Re: Re: Strange New Worlds
    By: ACMEBBS to Nightfox on Sat Jul 09 2022 02:30 am

    I'm glad they're also making Star Trek: Picard (though I feel like it
    could have been better).

    Was impressed of the 1st season...but haven't sat down to watch the 2nd season...even though I have a copy of it. For that matter...still haven't gone over the 2nd season of The Mandoloran. Gotta find the time to make it through Discovery or The Orville past the 1st season.

    I liked the 1st season of Picard, but I thought they were going to do more with the Borg cube plot..
    I started to watch The Mandolorean, but I couldn't really get into it.
    I thought Discovery was okay. I've seen it through season 3 and still need to start watching season 4 at some point.
    I think The Orville gets even better after the first season. I've been watching season 3, which I think has been great.

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  • From ACMEBBS@21:4/10 to Nightfox on Mon Jul 11 04:28:00 2022
    On Sat Jul 9 09:44:00 2022, Nightfox wrote to ACMEBBS <=-

    I'm glad they're also making Star Trek: Picard (though I feel like it
    could have been better).

    Was impressed of the 1st season...but haven't sat down to watch the 2nd season...even though I have a copy of it. For that matter...still haven't
    gone over the 2nd season of The Mandoloran. Gotta find the time to make it
    through Discovery or The Orville past the 1st season.

    I liked the 1st season of Picard, but I thought they were going to do more with
    the Borg cube plot..

    Got the 2nd season...but haven't watched it yet. Didn't think about that until I just read it. Very good suggestion. Will have to put in the time to watch all the stuff I want. You would think with no wife/family...this would not be an issue. ;)

    I started to watch The Mandolorean, but I couldn't really get into it.

    Loved the 1st season...especially with some of the actors they used. That's another 1 I want to get to as well.

    I thought Discovery was okay. I've seen it through season 3 and still need to
    start watching season 4 at some point.

    Not sure if I made it through the 1st season...but since I have it on the media server...will have to do a binge watch. 1 good thing...have off the 4 days I usually work on the last weekend of this month to complete the motorcycle class to get my endorsement back when I moved to Idaho in 2009 & couldn't afford to keep it.

    I think The Orville gets even better after the first season. I've been watching season 3, which I think has been great.

    Am current on getting episodes for everything I want to watch. Loved the 1st season. If it has gotten better...I have to find the time to catch up on it.

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  • From Geri Atricks@21:4/102 to Avon on Sun Jul 3 13:23:47 2022
    Yeah same, it's nice because they have a good cast, nice characters being developed, an episodic format of old, which I love... nice looking
    visuals (well I like them) and bugger me if the dam theme is getting
    stuck in my head too :)

    But damn, this has got to be one of the shortest seasons ever! Guess they didn't want to invest to much in a new show not knowing how it would do.

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  • From nblade@21:3/170 to Geri Atricks on Tue Jul 12 15:20:39 2022
    But damn, this has got to be one of the shortest seasons ever! Guess they didn't want to invest to much in a new show not knowing how it would do.

    To be honest, I think this is going to start being the normal in any streaming series. Keeping a season down about 6 to 10 epsiodes a season does keep the costs down. In some cases I think it keeps the writting better since you don't have to do the traditianal 13 to 22 episodes per season, you can be a little more selective on your scripts.

    Of course for the viewer, it sucks if they like the show, because who doesn't want just one more episode.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Geri Atricks on Tue Jul 12 07:42:00 2022
    Geri Atricks wrote to Avon <=-

    But damn, this has got to be one of the shortest seasons ever! Guess
    they didn't want to invest to much in a new show not knowing how it
    would do.

    I think they blow through the budgets in record time and can only afford an abbreviated season.


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  • From Geri Atricks@21:4/102 to nblade on Tue Jul 12 14:08:03 2022
    does keep the costs down. In some cases I think it keeps the writting better since you don't have to do the traditianal 13 to 22 episodes per season, you can be a little more selective on your scripts.

    Shouldn't even be a consideration with SNW since it is episodic and does not have a continuous story arc spanning an entire season.

    THAT being said, WHY are they doing recaps at the beginning of the episodes? -=-

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  • From nblade@21:3/170 to Geri Atricks on Wed Jul 13 14:44:41 2022
    THAT being said, WHY are they doing recaps at the beginning of the episodes? -=-


    It is another thing that I'm starting to see a lot of on streaming. Not really sure why they do it, but if I had to guess it's because they think we are dumb and don't remember other episodes (that in many cases we just watched)

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  • From Commodore Clifford@21:3/171 to Geri Atricks on Wed Jul 13 15:00:38 2022
    On 12 Jul 22 14:08:03 Geri Atricks wrote...

    does keep the costs down. In some cases I think it keeps the
    writting better since you don't have to do the traditianal 13 to
    22 episodes per season, you can be a little more selective on
    your scripts.

    Shouldn't even be a consideration with SNW since it is episodic and
    does not have a continuous story arc spanning an entire season.

    THAT being said, WHY are they doing recaps at the beginning of the episodes? -=-

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    To which Commodore Clifford replies...

    I'm guessing it's because since it's a new show, they want people (on broadcast) to be able to catch up.

    I think it is on broadcast as well, right? On CBS?

    But I've noticed a lot of streaming shows I've watched lately seem to be
    doing the same thing.

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  • From ACMEBBS@21:4/10 to nblade on Fri Jul 15 04:19:00 2022
    On Wed Jul 13 14:44:00 2022, nblade wrote to Geri Atricks <=-

    THAT being said, WHY are they doing recaps at the beginning of the episodes? -=-
    It is another thing that I'm starting to see a lot of on streaming. Not really
    sure why they do it, but if I had to guess it's because they think we are dumb
    and don't remember other episodes (that in many cases we just watched)

    Been doing this for decades on many shows on radio/TV & some movies. Much of the time...the writers/producers think people may not be able to watch every episode. Add to that...life/work gets busy and many just forget what they had watched. For instance...there have been times before digital recording/bittorrent & such where you might not be able to start watching a show from the pilot due not being aware of it.

    Now...not much of an issue anymore. TV tuner cards/bittorrent can be a god send if you want to get a whole series. Am dating myself...but I remember the '60's TV version of Batman on ABC in the US. The show ran 3 days a week at one time & this would probably be the worst example of this. Back then...many markets had only 3 commercial networks. With no video tapes during this time...you might watch one show on another network...but then watch Batman on one of the other nights. This way...you might miss an episode...but you would see what happened on the night you didn't watch.



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