• Hardware query

    From N1uro@21:4/107 to All on Thu Sep 9 10:35:00 2021
    Greetings and thanks for reading this.
    I'm curious as to the most modern hardware OS/2 will run on. I had an old
    AMD box from the early 2000s but it won't load on it. I'll guess it's due
    to the USB ports? I may be in error. It's been 20 years since I've used OS/2 and thought it'd be kind of cool to play with it again.

    Thanks for any input.


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  • From Oli@21:3/102 to N1uro on Thu Sep 9 20:07:47 2021
    N1uro wrote (2021-09-09):

    Greetings and thanks for reading this.
    I'm curious as to the most modern hardware OS/2 will run on.

    I cannot give you an answer to that question, but I guess it depends on the OS/2 version.
    2.11, Warp 3, Warp 4, Server 4.52, eComStation, ArcaOS?

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  • From Elf@21:1/194 to N1URO on Thu Sep 9 19:53:00 2021
    Quoting N1uro to All <=-

    Greetings and thanks for reading this.
    I'm curious as to the most modern hardware OS/2 will run on. I had an
    old AMD box from the early 2000s but it won't load on it. I'll guess
    it's due to the USB ports? I may be in error. It's been 20 years since I've used OS/2 and thought it'd be kind of cool to play with it again.

    I always admired and wanted OS/2 back in the day, but could not afford
    what I thought were decent specs in hardware to run it, so I settled for Windows 3.1 like many others.

    Today I play around with it occasionally in VirtualBox. If you can't get
    it to run on your hardware, you can at least play with it in a VM. :-)

    ~Elf



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  • From N1uro@21:4/107 to Oli on Fri Sep 10 08:27:00 2021
    Hello Oli;

    Oli wrote to N1uro <=-

    I cannot give you an answer to that question, but I guess it depends on the OS/2 version. 2.11, Warp 3, Warp 4, Server 4.52, eComStation,
    ArcaOS?

    I was looking to reinstall Warp 4. 3 was a tad buggy especially in regards
    to DOS routines.

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  • From N1uro@21:4/107 to Elf on Fri Sep 10 08:28:00 2021
    Hey Elf;

    Elf wrote to N1URO <=-

    I always admired and wanted OS/2 back in the day, but could not afford what I thought were decent specs in hardware to run it, so I settled
    for Windows 3.1 like many others.

    You can download it free.

    Today I play around with it occasionally in VirtualBox. If you can't
    get it to run on your hardware, you can at least play with it in a VM.
    :-)

    I was considering that but wasn't sure how it ran in a VM environment.

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  • From Doctor Wade@21:3/105.1 to N1uro on Fri Sep 10 09:40:34 2021
    Hey Elf;

    Elf wrote to N1URO <=-

    You can download it free.

    Today I play around with it occasionally in VirtualBox. If you can't
    get it to run on your hardware, you can at least play with it in a VM.
    :-)

    I was considering that but wasn't sure how it ran in a VM environment.


    It works great on my system. I run my old school BBS in a VM. I tried to run OS/2 on real hardware and never got it to install. Had problems with video and NIC drivers that caused the install to hang. I run version 4.52 under VirtualBox for Windows. I use SIO to get the "modem" to accept telnet connections. One issue VirtualBox has is it will not map the virtual drive to the host. I have to use FTP to move programs back and forth or make .iso images
    an load it in the virtual CD.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Elf on Fri Sep 10 08:49:00 2021
    Elf wrote to N1URO <=-

    I always admired and wanted OS/2 back in the day, but could not afford what I thought were decent specs in hardware to run it, so I settled
    for Windows 3.1 like many others.

    It was a great BBS platform, I ran BinkleyTerm and Maximus on it. I was a Novell admin, and all of the utilities were console-based programs. OS/2
    could run consoles all day long, and give you a DOS window with a ton of
    RAM, since it virtualized all of the drivers.

    Getting TCP/IP working alongside IPX/SPX finally forced me to ditch OS/2 and try this Windows NT thing at work.



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  • From N1uro@21:4/107 to Doctor Wade on Fri Sep 10 17:16:00 2021
    Hello Doctor Wade;

    Doctor Wade wrote to N1uro <=-

    It works great on my system. I run my old school BBS in a VM. I tried
    to run OS/2 on real hardware and never got it to install. Had problems with video and NIC drivers that caused the install to hang. I run
    version 4.52 under VirtualBox for Windows. I use SIO to get the "modem"
    to accept telnet connections. One issue VirtualBox has is it will not
    map the virtual drive to the host. I have to use FTP to move programs
    back and forth or make .iso images
    an load it in the virtual CD.

    Thanks for the head's up. I suppose more tinkering is required on my part :)

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  • From N1uro@21:4/107 to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Sep 10 17:33:00 2021
    Hello poindexter;

    poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Elf <=-

    It was a great BBS platform, I ran BinkleyTerm and Maximus on it. I was
    a Novell admin, and all of the utilities were console-based programs.
    OS/2 could run consoles all day long, and give you a DOS window with a
    ton of RAM, since it virtualized all of the drivers.

    It's great platform to run multiple DOS sessions with as well once you tweek
    it up just a tad too.

    Getting TCP/IP working alongside IPX/SPX finally forced me to ditch
    OS/2 and try this Windows NT thing at work.

    I never had an issue running IPX/SPX with OS/2, and I also was a Novell
    admin.

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  • From acn@21:3/127.1 to N1uro on Sat Sep 11 10:57:00 2021
    Am 10.09.21 schrieb N1uro@21:4/107 in FSX_RETRO:

    Hallo N1uro,

    Getting TCP/IP working alongside IPX/SPX finally forced me to ditch
    OS/2 and try this Windows NT thing at work.

    I never had an issue running IPX/SPX with OS/2, and I also was a Novell admin.

    I've just installed Warp 4 on a Pentium-233 with an Intel NIC and the
    last Novell Client.
    It took a little to understand how to use TCP/IP together with IPX,
    but it is working and I can log into my NetWare 4.11 server.

    Regards,
    Anna

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  • From acn@21:3/127.1 to All on Sat Sep 11 11:01:00 2021
    Hi,

    as I've just read that other formet NetWare admins are around:
    Does anyone know if there used to be some kind of BBS software running
    on NetWare?

    Regars,
    Anna

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  • From N1uro@21:4/107 to acn on Sat Sep 11 11:42:00 2021
    Hello Anna;

    acn wrote to N1uro <=-

    I've just installed Warp 4 on a Pentium-233 with an Intel NIC and the
    last Novell Client.
    It took a little to understand how to use TCP/IP together with IPX,
    but it is working and I can log into my NetWare 4.11 server.

    Does your P-233 have USB? The Netware client for OS/2 always worked well
    for me and I never had an issue with Netware 3 or 4. It's been consistent
    for me when I was using OS/2. I also had Apache server running on it. Worked slick.

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  • From N1uro@21:4/107 to acn on Sat Sep 11 11:49:00 2021
    Hello Anna;

    acn wrote to All <=-

    as I've just read that other formet NetWare admins are around:
    Does anyone know if there used to be some kind of BBS software running
    on NetWare?

    Years ago, I ran Renegade which was installed on a mapped Netware drive. The only issue was if you had a power glitch and lost the drive mapping, the
    bbs failed, so in that regard it added another point of failure to the
    chain of things. I'd load the bbs locally and put file areas on Netware
    mapped drives.

    As for any native Netware BBS, I don't recall any made.

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  • From acn@21:3/127.1 to N1uro on Tue Sep 14 11:31:00 2021
    Am 11.09.21 schrieb N1uro@21:4/107 in FSX_RETRO:

    Hallo N1uro,

    Does your P-233 have USB?

    AFAIK there is a USB 1 header, but I don't have the breakout panel/
    connector for it.
    And as I'm using Zip disks for data transfer (and an internal IDE Zip
    drive connected to a PCI IDE controller in my main PC), I don't really
    need USB there.

    The Netware client for OS/2 always worked well for me and I never
    had an issue with Netware 3 or 4. It's been consistent for me when
    I was using OS/2. I also had Apache server running on it. Worked
    slick.

    Yes, of course :)

    I've used OS/2 in the late 90s as my main OS and really liked it.
    Especially when BBSing (either with a terminal program or a point
    software like XP), it offered the best serial throughput as the
    multitasking was excellent, especially compared to Win95/98.
    Serial connections were rock solid, even when other tasks were active
    and the download went in the backgroud. So cool to see back then :)

    Regards,
    Anna

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  • From acn@21:3/127.1 to N1uro on Tue Sep 14 11:44:00 2021
    Am 11.09.21 schrieb N1uro@21:4/107 in FSX_RETRO:

    Hallo N1uro,

    as I've just read that other formet NetWare admins are around:
    Does anyone know if there used to be some kind of BBS software running ac>> on NetWare?

    Years ago, I ran Renegade which was installed on a mapped Netware drive.
    The only issue was if you had a power glitch and lost the drive mapping, the bbs failed, so in that regard it added another point of failure to the chain of things. I'd load the bbs locally and put file areas on Netware mapped drives.

    :)

    As for any native Netware BBS, I don't recall any made.

    Okay, thank you!

    I've read somethig about "TBBS" a while ago and there, NetWare has
    been mentioned. But I did not find out if there really was a NetWare
    version of it. I'll investigate this further :)

    Regards,
    Anna

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  • From Atreyu@21:1/176 to Acn on Tue Sep 14 08:16:12 2021
    On 14 Sep 21 11:44:00, Acn said the following to N1Uro:

    I've read somethig about "TBBS" a while ago and there, NetWare has
    been mentioned. But I did not find out if there really was a NetWare version of it. I'll investigate this further :)

    There was never TBBS for Netware but it did support logins via IPX.

    Atreyu

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  • From N1uro@21:4/107 to acn on Tue Sep 14 10:43:00 2021
    Hello Anna;

    acn wrote to N1uro <=-

    I've read somethig about "TBBS" a while ago and there, NetWare has
    been mentioned. But I did not find out if there really was a NetWare version of it. I'll investigate this further :)

    TBBS or The BreadBoard System is a DOS DBase BBS that like with some others it's Netware Aware - but not a native Netware NLM type bbs. I was going to consider using that but the add-ons for it were more than I was willing to pay... so I went with MajorBBS which was still expensive but not quite as
    much plus Major allowed for DOS doors (on another box) where TBBS did not.



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  • From N1uro@21:4/107 to acn on Tue Sep 14 10:47:00 2021
    Hello Anna;

    acn wrote to N1uro <=-

    AFAIK there is a USB 1 header, but I don't have the breakout panel/ connector for it.
    And as I'm using Zip disks for data transfer (and an internal IDE Zip drive connected to a PCI IDE controller in my main PC), I don't really need USB there.

    So then if it's detectable it doesn't matter if the panel is there or not... like an older LinkSys router of sorts. They all have USB but no panels.

    I've used OS/2 in the late 90s as my main OS and really liked it. Especially when BBSing (either with a terminal program or a point
    software like XP), it offered the best serial throughput as the multitasking was excellent, especially compared to Win95/98.
    Serial connections were rock solid, even when other tasks were active
    and the download went in the backgroud. So cool to see back then :)

    I was using OS/2, NetWare 3.x, Linux 1.x and MFNOS (a variant of KA9Q NOS that I ended up working on with the maintainer). I still run linux and MFNOS.

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  • From acn@21:3/127.1 to Atreyu on Fri Sep 17 20:10:00 2021
    Am 14.09.21 schrieb Atreyu@21:1/176 in FSX_RETRO:

    Hallo Atreyu,

    There was never TBBS for Netware but it did support logins via IPX.

    Ah okay, that explains what I've read.
    Thank you!

    Regards,
    Anna

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  • From N1uro@21:4/107 to acn on Sat Sep 18 08:45:00 2021
    acn wrote to Atreyu <=-

    Am 14.09.21 schrieb Atreyu@21:1/176 in FSX_RETRO:

    Hallo Atreyu,

    There was never TBBS for Netware but it did support logins via IPX.

    MajorBBS also supported IPX/SPX logins. It was how I typically logged into
    my MBBS when I ran it.

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