• Janet Jackson is a vector for windows xp systems

    From MATT MUNSON@21:4/108 to All on Thu Aug 18 08:45:53 2022
    https://www.neowin.net/news/janet-jackson-song-is-now-an-official-exploit-for-w indows-pcs/

    Yesterday, we learned via Microsoft's Raymond Chen that back in the olden days of Windows XP, it was discovered that a music video of a song called Rhythm Nation by Janet Jackson was causing Windows PCs to crash. This is because the song in question contained resonant frequencies for 5400RPM hard drives which even crashed PCs in vicinity while the song was being played. While OEMs eventually fixed the issue, security agency MITRE has now declared it as an official exploit.

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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to MATT MUNSON on Thu Aug 18 09:05:28 2022
    Re: Janet Jackson is a vector for windows xp systems
    By: MATT MUNSON to All on Thu Aug 18 2022 08:45 am

    https://www.neowin.net/news/janet-jackson-song-is-now-an-official-exploit- for-w indows-pcs/

    Yesterday, we learned via Microsoft's Raymond Chen that back in the olden days of Windows XP, it was discovered that a music video of a song called Rhythm Nation by Janet Jackson was causing Windows PCs to crash. This is because the song in question contained resonant frequencies for 5400RPM hard drives which even crashed PCs in vicinity while the song was being played. While OEMs eventually fixed the issue, security agency MITRE has now declared it as an official exploit.

    Interesting.. I've had an MP3 of that song for a very long time, and I probably played it back in those days - but I've rarely had a 5400RPM hard drive.

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  • From esc@21:4/173 to MATT MUNSON on Thu Aug 18 11:17:37 2022
    Yesterday, we learned via Microsoft's Raymond Chen that back in the
    olden days of Windows XP, it was discovered that a music video of a song called Rhythm Nation by Janet Jackson was causing Windows PCs to crash. This is because the song in question contained resonant frequencies for 5400RPM hard drives which even crashed PCs in vicinity while the song
    was being played. While OEMs eventually fixed the issue, security agency MITRE has now declared it as an official exploit.

    Well, great, now I have to find a way to try this. lol.

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  • From acn@21:3/127.1 to MATT MUNSON on Fri Aug 19 11:16:00 2022
    Am 18.08.22 schrieb MATT MUNSON@21:4/108 in FSX_RETRO:

    Hallo MATT,

    https://www.neowin.net/news/janet-jackson-song-is-now-an-official-exploit- for-w indows-pcs/

    Yesterday, we learned via Microsoft's Raymond Chen that back in the olden days of Windows XP, it was discovered that a music video of a song called Rhythm Nation by Janet Jackson was causing Windows PCs to crash. This is because the song in question contained resonant frequencies for 5400RPM hard drives which even crashed PCs in vicinity while the song was being played. While OEMs eventually fixed the issue, security agency MITRE has now declared it as an official exploit.

    Hmm, but as this is hardware-related, it should also affect Linux PCs
    and Macs, shouldn't it?

    Regards,
    Anna

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Nightfox on Fri Aug 19 07:08:00 2022
    Nightfox wrote to MATT MUNSON <=-

    Interesting.. I've had an MP3 of that song for a very long time, and I probably played it back in those days - but I've rarely had a 5400RPM
    hard drive.

    I thought 5400 was a standard for a long time. I remember getting some of
    the first lightweight Dell D430s, and they had a 1.8" 4200 RPM drive.

    I was supporting a couple of thousand of these, and my personal model always felt slow. I ran CPU-Z on it to watch the clock speed and see if it was throttling down excessively, and realized it had a Core 2 Solo chip, which
    I'd never heard of. Our config was a Core 2 Duo, and mine had a Duo sticker
    on it.

    I managed to get a nice high-end system out of Dell as a recompense.




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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat Aug 20 15:41:56 2022
    Re: Re: Janet Jackson is a vector for windows xp systems
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Fri Aug 19 2022 07:08 am

    I thought 5400 was a standard for a long time. I remember getting some of the first lightweight Dell D430s, and they had a 1.8" 4200 RPM drive.

    I've normally built my own desktop PCs, and don't buy laptops very often (it seems the slower RPM drives are more common in laptops). When I build a desktop PC, usually I'd choose a 7200RPM hard drive.

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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Nightfox on Sun Aug 21 21:30:00 2022
    I've normally built my own desktop PCs, and don't buy laptops very often (it seems the slower RPM drives are more common in laptops). When I build a desktop PC, usually I'd choose a 7200RPM hard drive.

    Traditionally, I tend to put fairly small and old drives in the desktop PC's and add relatively slow large drives to the NAS or file server storage.
    Usually on the theory that the network speed will be the determining speed factor not the HD's. 7200's usually use more power too, while that never
    used to be a problem, it kinda is now... I've cut back a lot of my active hardware and tried to select less power hungry storage.

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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to Spectre on Mon Aug 22 16:57:27 2022
    Re: Re: Janet Jackson is a vector for windows xp systems
    By: Spectre to Nightfox on Sun Aug 21 2022 09:30 pm

    Traditionally, I tend to put fairly small and old drives in the desktop PC's and add relatively slow large drives to the NAS or file server storage. Usually on the theory that the network speed will be the determining speed factor not the HD's. 7200's usually use more power too, while that never used to be a problem, it kinda is now... I've cut back a lot of my active hardware and tried to select less power hungry storage.

    Makes sense. I suppose I've often erred on the side of speed (even for large drives). I have a PC that I use as a media server (among other things) using Plex Media Server. Lately, I've been fairly regularly watching TV shows with it with someone else using Plex's "Watch Together" feature. I have a rotating HDD in that PC for movies & TV shows, but to help ensure it can support streaming with more than one person (in case they happen to be watching something else from my Plex server while I'm also watching it), I wanted to help ensure it can handle that.

    For my main desktop PC, one thign I've been doing lately is video transcoding, and often I'll re-mux audio tracks into videos, which requires a lot of disk I/O. When I built my current desktop PC in 2019, initially I put a 5400RPM drive in it, thinking I was going to mainly use it for storage, but last year I decided to replace it with a larger drive, and also a 7200RPM drive because I noticed with the 5400RPM drive, large I/O operations were taking a bit longer than I'd expect. The difference in speed is noticeable with a 7200RPM drive.

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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Nightfox on Wed Aug 24 01:55:00 2022
    Makes sense. I suppose I've often erred on the side of speed (even for large drives). I have a PC that I use as a media server (among other things) using Plex Media Server. Lately, I've been fairly regularly watching TV shows with it with someone else using Plex's "Watch Together" feature. I have a rotating HDD in that PC for movies & TV shows, but to help ensure it can support streaming with more than one person (in case they happen to be watching something else from my Plex server while I'm also watching it), I wanted to help ensure it can handle that.

    I suspect its going to be more a case of caching than outright speed that'll
    be make or break for it. The slowest SATA III drive is still nominally 6Gb/s these days, although even the II's at 3Gb/s are orders of magnitude faster
    than your network, so so long as the system can pump the data out reliably
    the HD's ought to be minimal in their impact.

    For my main desktop PC, one thign I've been doing lately is video transcoding, and often I'll re-mux audio tracks into videos, which requires a lot of disk I/O. When I built my current desktop PC in 2019, initially I put a 5400RPM drive in it, thinking I was going to mainly use

    I used to do something similar.. a lot longer ago than 2019 though, I think
    my bottleneck at the time was CPU. And yes that makes more sense to want a faster drive for that instance. The only other place I've noticed a
    difference in the drive speeds is games like Fallout 4 which tend to load big slabs of data for individual areas... the faster drive locally does seem to
    get it done faster.

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