• Announcing AmiDeb - An Amiga Emulator system.

    From vorlon@21:1/195.1 to All on Fri Jul 22 23:28:29 2022
    AmiDeb has been released.

    What is AmiDeb:

    AmiDeb is a bare Linux install with just enough to run FS-UAE.

    At the end of the installation of AmiDeb you have a real Debian Linux
    system, with the benefit of being able to update and customise the system.

    Mounting of a real CD-Rom/DVD from the host is supported. (See A3000
    config.)

    As AmiDeb uses FS-UAE, all features of FS-UAE on Linux are
    available.

    Mounting of real Amiga formatted Hard drives.

    Tools on the Linux side: nano (Editor), mc (Midnight Commander [File
    Manager]), linux network tools.

    Runing a Text based front end, FS-UAE is then launched for your Amiga experience.


    See the Website at: https://amiga.vk3heg.net



    \/orlon
    aka
    Stephen


    --- Talisman v0.43-dev (Linux/m68k)
    * Origin: Vorlon Empire: Amiga 3000 powered in Sector 550 (21:1/195.1)
  • From esc@21:4/173 to vorlon on Fri Jul 22 17:46:02 2022
    AmiDeb is a bare Linux install with just enough to run FS-UAE.

    Nice! This is particularly interesting for people that want to run Amiga BBSes hehe. Very cool.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/07/11 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: m O N T E R E Y b B S . c O M (21:4/173)
  • From vorlon@21:1/195.1 to esc on Sat Jul 23 10:20:13 2022
    Hi esc,

    AmiDeb is a bare Linux install with just enough to run FS-UAE.

    Nice! This is particularly interesting for people that want to run
    Amiga BBSes hehe. Very cool.

    shush, don't tell anyone! #-0)


    Hehe, yeah that's one reason why I created it... I'll be moving my Amiga
    bbs to it, from it's current home on Amithlon due to some issues.

    I thought that I'd release to to the public to also use...



    \/orlon
    aka
    Stephen


    --- Talisman v0.43-dev (Linux/m68k)
    * Origin: Vorlon Empire: Amiga 3000 powered in Sector 550 (21:1/195.1)
  • From claw@21:1/210 to vorlon on Fri Jul 22 23:11:13 2022
    On 22 Jul 2022, vorlon said the following...
    AmiDeb has been released.

    What is AmiDeb:

    AmiDeb is a bare Linux install with just enough to run FS-UAE.

    At the end of the installation of AmiDeb you have a real Debian Linux system, with the benefit of being able to update and customise the
    system.

    Mounting of a real CD-Rom/DVD from the host is supported. (See A3000 config.)

    As AmiDeb uses FS-UAE, all features of FS-UAE on Linux are
    available.

    Mounting of real Amiga formatted Hard drives.

    Tools on the Linux side: nano (Editor), mc (Midnight Commander [File Manager]), linux network tools.

    Runing a Text based front end, FS-UAE is then launched for your Amiga experience.


    See the Website at: https://amiga.vk3heg.net


    \/orlon

    Awesome Work!!! Now is it instead of a USB stick can we get an ISO so it works with Ventoy?

    |23|04Dr|16|12Claw
    |16|14Sysop |12Noverdu |14BBS |04(|14Noverdu.com|04)
    |10Standard Ports for SSH/Telnet Web/HTTP://|14Noverdu.com:808
    |20|15fsxNet/MRC Chat/Registered Doors!/50Nodes/No Time Use! Stay On!|16|07

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Noverdu BBS (21:1/210)
  • From claw@21:1/210 to vorlon on Fri Jul 22 23:12:19 2022
    On 23 Jul 2022, vorlon said the following...
    Hi esc,

    AmiDeb is a bare Linux install with just enough to run FS-UAE.

    Nice! This is particularly interesting for people that want to run
    Amiga BBSes hehe. Very cool.

    shush, don't tell anyone! #-0)

    Hehe, yeah that's one reason why I created it... I'll be moving my Amiga bbs to it, from it's current home on Amithlon due to some issues.

    I thought that I'd release to to the public to also use...

    \/orlon

    I'm too greedy to use my miggy for a BBS. Nope need all that power for just me :D

    |23|04Dr|16|12Claw
    |16|14Sysop |12Noverdu |14BBS |04(|14Noverdu.com|04)
    |10Standard Ports for SSH/Telnet Web/HTTP://|14Noverdu.com:808
    |20|15fsxNet/MRC Chat/Registered Doors!/50Nodes/No Time Use! Stay On!|16|07

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Noverdu BBS (21:1/210)
  • From esc@21:4/173 to vorlon on Sat Jul 23 04:31:07 2022
    Hehe, yeah that's one reason why I created it... I'll be moving my Amiga bbs to it, from it's current home on Amithlon due to some issues.

    Oh, interesting - mind delving into these a bit? I have an amithlon box that I frankly don't have set up right now to do anything and it merely has a base install with no real updates lol. I don't even have any software on the thing other than the base amithlon install.

    I'd be curious to see what types of issues you're running into on amithlon...in my experience, it seems to work rather well.

    AmiDeb is potentially of interest for running in a VPS. In fact, it's /very/ interesting to run in a VPS. :) Are you on Discord? Perhaps we can chat and see if this is possible?

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/07/11 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: m O N T E R E Y b B S . c O M (21:4/173)
  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to vorlon on Sat Jul 23 17:49:29 2022
    AmiDeb has been released.
    What is AmiDeb:
    AmiDeb is a bare Linux install with just enough to run FS-UAE.

    This is pretty awesome; thanks... I just installed Amiga Forever and have a FS-UAE install on my MacOS, but will take a l00k @ AmiDeb as I prefer to run on *nix.

    Sounds really neat for someone wanting to run... well, not bare metal but on a bare metal machine - I'm more a VM guy, but this might have a use case for me too. Thanks for sharing!

    See the Website at: https://amiga.vk3heg.net



    |07p|15AULIE|1142|07o
    |08.........

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/07/15 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: 2o fOr beeRS bbS>>20ForBeers.com:1337 (21:2/150)
  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to vorlon on Sat Jul 23 18:18:59 2022
    AmiDeb has been released.

    I realize its 500MB, but I want to host AmiDeb on 2o - it could use a FILE_ID.DIZ in the root of the ZIP. :P



    |07p|15AULIE|1142|07o
    |08.........

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/07/15 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: 2o fOr beeRS bbS>>20ForBeers.com:1337 (21:2/150)
  • From vorlon@21:1/195.1 to claw on Sun Jul 24 16:54:09 2022
    Hi Claw,

    Awesome Work!!! Now is it instead of a USB stick can we get an ISO so
    it works with Ventoy?

    What's Ventoy?



    \/orlon
    aka
    Stephen


    --- Talisman v0.43-dev (Linux/m68k)
    * Origin: Vorlon Empire: Amiga 3000 powered in Sector 550 (21:1/195.1)
  • From vorlon@21:1/195.1 to esc on Sun Jul 24 17:02:10 2022
    Hi Esc,

    Hehe, yeah that's one reason why I created it... I'll be moving
    my Amiga bbs to it, from it's current home on Amithlon due to some issues.

    Oh, interesting - mind delving into these a bit? I have an amithlon
    [...]
    I'd be curious to see what types of issues you're running into on amithlon...in my experience, it seems to work rather well.

    Binkd won't work on my Amithlon system. It bitches about a function
    that's not present. I'm also stuck with a RealTeck 8109 pci network card.
    I've tried four intel based card that's meant to work, but couldn't get
    it to.

    I haven't been able to get sound going. (Not that a BBS really needs
    that).

    Every now and again, I have to do a hard power reboot of the pc. But
    mostly just re-booting Amithlon is enough.


    AmiDeb is potentially of interest for running in a VPS. In fact, it's
    /very/ interesting to run in a VPS.

    The issue with running it in a VPS is present with all *uae* versions, in
    that the mouse goes nuts and as Amiga user's know, a working mouse is a
    must.




    \/orlon
    aka
    Stephen


    --- Talisman v0.43-dev (Linux/m68k)
    * Origin: Vorlon Empire: Amiga 3000 powered in Sector 550 (21:1/195.1)
  • From vorlon@21:1/195.1 to paulie420 on Sun Jul 24 17:09:11 2022
    Hi Paulie420,

    What is AmiDeb:
    AmiDeb is a bare Linux install with just enough to run FS-UAE.

    This is pretty awesome; thanks... I just installed Amiga Forever and
    have a FS-UAE install on my MacOS, but will take a l00k @ AmiDeb as I
    prefer to run on *nix.

    Hehehe!

    Sounds really neat for someone wanting to run... well, not bare metal
    but on a bare metal machine - I'm more a VM guy, but this might have a
    use case for me too. Thanks for sharing!

    Doing something like this is as close to bare metal as anyone is going to
    get. The plus side is more host machine compatibility, unlike Amithlon.



    \/orlon
    aka
    Stephen


    --- Talisman v0.43-dev (Linux/m68k)
    * Origin: Vorlon Empire: Amiga 3000 powered in Sector 550 (21:1/195.1)
  • From vorlon@21:1/195.1 to paulie420 on Sun Jul 24 17:13:19 2022
    Hi Paulie420,

    AmiDeb has been released.

    I realize its 500MB, but I want to host AmiDeb on 2o - it could use a FILE_ID.DIZ in the root of the ZIP. :P

    Putting it one a BBS didn't even cross my mind. @-O)
    Plus the only reason it's a zip archive is to include the documentation
    and mounting a real hd howto...






    \/orlon
    aka
    Stephen


    --- Talisman v0.43-dev (Linux/m68k)
    * Origin: Vorlon Empire: Amiga 3000 powered in Sector 550 (21:1/195.1)
  • From Blue White@21:4/134 to vorlon on Sun Jul 24 09:20:25 2022
    vorlon wrote to paulie420 <=-

    Putting it one a BBS didn't even cross my mind. @-O)
    Plus the only reason it's a zip archive is to include the documentation and mounting a real hd howto...

    You probably already mentioned this, but will this project run on a
    raspberry pi, or does it need to be on an intel machine? Thanks!


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  • From vorlon@21:1/195.1 to Blue White on Tue Jul 26 10:26:02 2022
    Hi Blue White,

    Putting it one a BBS didn't even cross my mind. @-O)
    Plus the only reason it's a zip archive is to include the
    documentation and mounting a real hd howto...

    You probably already mentioned this, but will this project run on a raspberry pi, or does it need to be on an intel machine? Thanks!

    No I haven't mentioned it. AmiDeb uses the debian net installer .iso and
    it's abilities to be scripted, so it won't work on a Pi.

    You could do something with amyberry or the like though.



    \/orlon
    aka
    Stephen


    --- Talisman v0.43-dev (Linux/m68k)
    * Origin: Vorlon Empire: Amiga 3000 powered in Sector 550 (21:1/195.1)
  • From Blue White@21:4/134 to vorlon on Tue Jul 26 17:58:06 2022
    vorlon wrote to Blue White <=-

    No I haven't mentioned it. AmiDeb uses the debian net installer .iso
    and it's abilities to be scripted, so it won't work on a Pi.

    You could do something with amyberry or the like though.

    OK, thanks. Good to know!


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  • From claw@21:1/210 to vorlon on Tue Jul 26 19:52:29 2022
    On 24 Jul 2022, vorlon said the following...
    What's Ventoy?

    \/orlon

    Only the best USB boot setup. Instead of dealing with flashing a drive each time. Download the ISO drop in in a ventoy and it will ask you which ISO to boot when you start.

    https://www.ventoy.net/en/index.html

    |23|04Dr|16|12Claw
    |16|14Sysop |12Noverdu |14BBS |04(|14Noverdu.com|04)
    |10Standard Ports for SSH/Telnet Web/HTTP://|14Noverdu.com:808
    |20|15fsxNet/MRC Chat/Registered Doors!/50Nodes/No Time Use! Stay On!|16|07

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Noverdu BBS (21:1/210)
  • From vorlon@21:1/195.1 to claw on Wed Jul 27 12:32:20 2022
    Hi Claw,

    What's Ventoy?
    Only the best USB boot setup. Instead of dealing with flashing a
    drive each time. Download the ISO drop in in a ventoy and it will ask
    you which ISO to boot when you start.

    AmiDeb uses the Debian Net inistall .ISO, so what ever tool people use to
    boot machines will work.

    I use one called Easy2boot myself.



    \/orlon
    aka
    Stephen


    --- Talisman v0.43-dev (Linux/m68k)
    * Origin: Vorlon Empire: Amiga 3000 powered in Sector 550 (21:1/195.1)
  • From vorlon@21:1/195.1 to Blue White on Wed Jul 27 12:35:17 2022
    Hi Blue White,

    No I haven't mentioned it. AmiDeb uses the debian net installer
    .iso and it's abilities to be scripted, so it won't work on a Pi.

    OK, thanks. Good to know!

    I've got a Pi4 here right now that's going to a client next week.
    I'll do some test's and get back to you....



    \/orlon
    aka
    Stephen


    --- Talisman v0.43-dev (Linux/m68k)
    * Origin: Vorlon Empire: Amiga 3000 powered in Sector 550 (21:1/195.1)
  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to vorlon on Wed Jul 27 21:41:00 2022
    I'll do some test's and get back to you....

    I have a few Pis of different flavours... or is that values for Pi? Orange, Banana, Rasi Zero & 3b, can send one if you want to play with a Pi installer.

    Spec


    *** THE READER V4.50 [freeware]
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  • From claw@21:1/210 to vorlon on Wed Jul 27 08:36:57 2022
    On 27 Jul 2022, vorlon said the following...
    AmiDeb uses the Debian Net inistall .ISO, so what ever tool people use to boot machines will work.

    I use one called Easy2boot myself.

    Hmmm would want to make an ISO thats self contained so it would require the internet. Mainly because it would be cool to take places like the cabin where internet isn't used. The cool thing is the ISO doesn't have to fit on a disk itself because it can occupy the space of the USB flash drive.

    So if I'm understanding correctly its an install script only? If yes how much space does it take up after installation without any personal additions?

    |23|04Dr|16|12Claw
    |16|14Sysop |12Noverdu |14BBS |04(|14Noverdu.com|04)
    |10Standard Ports for SSH/Telnet Web/HTTP://|14Noverdu.com:808
    |20|15fsxNet/MRC Chat/Registered Doors!/50Nodes/No Time Use! Stay On!|16|07

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Noverdu BBS (21:1/210)
  • From vorlon@21:1/195.1 to claw on Fri Jul 29 23:34:17 2022
    Hi Claw,

    AmiDeb uses the Debian Net inistall .ISO, so what ever tool
    people use to boot machines will work.

    Hmmm would want to make an ISO thats self contained so it would
    require the internet. Mainly because it would be cool to take places
    like the cabin where internet isn't used. The cool thing is the ISO

    The only time the internet is required is during the install, as it pulls
    down the latest versions of programs/libs etc...

    So if I'm understanding correctly its an install script only? If yes
    how much space does it take up after installation without any personal additions?

    No, the install of AmiDeb is scripted to do 98% of the install. It only
    asks things like hostname/domain, Locale/Lang, it chooses "Guided" for
    the hd partition's, but they can be changed. At the end it powers the pc
    down.

    Then when the pc boot's up, it presents a txt based menu system all ready
    to go, and just needing the kickstart rom's, any adf, and hdf files to
    have a working emulation machine.


    The iso is 491Mb when unziped, and is only ziped to allow the inclusion
    of documentation.





    \/orlon
    aka
    Stephen


    --- Talisman v0.43-dev (Linux/m68k)
    * Origin: Vorlon Empire: Amiga 3000 powered in Sector 550 (21:1/195.1)
  • From vorlon@21:1/195.1 to Spectre on Fri Jul 29 23:38:20 2022
    Hi Spec,

    I'll do some test's and get back to you....

    I have a few Pis of different flavours... or is that values for Pi?
    Orange, Banana, Rasi Zero & 3b, can send one if you want to play with a
    Pi installer.

    I received a nice little package from core eletronics today and one bit
    of kit inside was a P4 1G... Now the mini hdmi to hdmi cable is a
    different story as it's faulty... aghhhhh....

    The crazy thing is the postage to send it back is going to be around what
    the dam thing costs.... arghhh. #-(




    \/orlon
    aka
    Stephen


    --- Talisman v0.43-dev (Linux/m68k)
    * Origin: Vorlon Empire: Amiga 3000 powered in Sector 550 (21:1/195.1)
  • From aLPHA@21:4/158.1 to vorlon on Fri Jul 29 09:36:24 2022
    I received a nice little package from core eletronics today and one
    bit
    of kit inside was a P4 1G... Now the mini hdmi to hdmi cable is a
    different story as it's faulty... aghhhhh....

    Are Pi4's back in stock??? Nice score. Regarding that mini hdmi, I had a problem on my last P4 as well -- it was super fiddly, and I ended up
    busting the socket because it wouldn't fit quite right. Could have been
    the cheap cable I bought... Well, now it's a headless pi, ha.


    |04a|12LPHA
    |03Alpha Complex |15- |11alphacomplex.us:2323

    --- Talisman v0.43-dev (Linux/x86_64)
    * Origin: You are in Error, fsxNet. No one is screaming. (21:4/158.1)
  • From vorlon@21:1/195.1 to aLPHA on Tue Aug 2 10:00:24 2022
    Hi aLPHA,

    I received a nice little package from core eletronics today and one
    bit of kit inside was a P4 1G... Now the mini hdmi to hdmi cable is a different story as it's faulty... aghhhhh....

    Are Pi4's back in stock??? Nice score.

    Yes and no. #0(

    I had to purchase a "kit" to get it. The Pi, PSU, Case, SD Card, HDMI
    cable, all in one transaction.

    Regarding that mini hdmi, I had a problem on my last P4 as well -- it
    was super fiddly, and I ended up busting the socket because it wouldn't
    fit quite right. Could have been the cheap cable I bought... Well, now
    it's a headless pi, ha.

    Oh, this was the cable at fault. Two other cables purchased locally work
    fine. It also was not working with a Asus monitor and two different TV's,
    and two different pi's... *&%^%$

    At least the unit for the client is isnstalled and working displaying the information in full screen 1920x1080 as it should, and no bits cut off.





    \/orlon
    aka
    Stephen


    --- Talisman v0.43-dev (Linux/m68k)
    * Origin: Vorlon Empire: Amiga 3000 powered in Sector 550 (21:1/195.1)
  • From Darklord@21:3/171 to claw on Thu Aug 4 11:34:50 2022
    On 22 Jul 22 23:12:19 claw wrote...

    I'm too greedy to use my miggy for a BBS. Nope need all that power
    for just me :D

    To which Darklord replies...

    I totally understand this. It almost seems a shame to use my Atari
    MegaST4, complete with an AdSpeed accelerator, STorm-ST (TOS v2.06,
    switchable with EMUTos), Lightning-ST (USB support - easy SD-card
    access!), 4 meg, 4 gig SCSI hard drive, 2x SCSI CD-ROM, EZ-135, and audio
    mod for external speakers to do something as mundane as running a BBS!

    :)

    But I do... I guess having an Atari Mega STe, Falcon 030 and Atari STacy compensates for that... :D


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    \/

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  • From Commodore Clifford@21:3/171 to Darklord on Wed Aug 10 11:18:52 2022
    On 04 Aug 22 11:34:50 Darklord wrote...

    On 22 Jul 22 23:12:19 claw wrote...

    I'm too greedy to use my miggy for a BBS. Nope need all that
    power for just me :D

    To which Darklord replies...

    I totally understand this. It almost seems a shame to use my Atari
    MegaST4, complete with an AdSpeed accelerator, STorm-ST (TOS v2.06, switchable with EMUTos), Lightning-ST (USB support - easy SD-card
    access!), 4 meg, 4 gig SCSI hard drive, 2x SCSI CD-ROM, EZ-135, and
    audio mod for external speakers to do something as mundane as running
    a BBS!

    :)

    But I do... I guess having an Atari Mega STe, Falcon 030 and Atari
    STacy compensates for that... :D

    To which Commodore Clifford replies...

    Well, ain't someone braggin' today. :P

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  • From Darklord@21:3/171 to Commodore Clifford on Wed Aug 10 15:24:32 2022
    On 10 Aug 22 11:18:52 Commodore Clifford wrote...

    To which Commodore Clifford replies...

    Well, ain't someone braggin' today. :P

    To which Darklord replies...

    Nah, as far as collectors go, I'm not even on the same page. :)


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  • From vorlon@21:1/195.1 to Blue White on Wed Sep 14 10:12:12 2022
    Hi Blue White,

    Putting it on a BBS didn't even cross my mind. @-O)
    Plus the only reason it's a zip archive is to include the
    documentation and mounting a real hd howto...

    You probably already mentioned this, but will this project run on a raspberry pi, or does it need to be on an intel machine? Thanks!

    Could you email me at "vk3heg@gmail.com". There might be someting secret comming!! &->


    \/orlon
    aka
    Stephen


    --- Talisman v0.43-dev (Linux/m68k)
    * Origin: Vorlon Empire: Amiga 3000 powered in Sector 550 (21:1/195.1)
  • From Blue White@21:4/134 to vorlon on Thu Sep 15 15:33:48 2022
    vorlon wrote to Blue White <=-

    Putting it on a BBS didn't even cross my mind. @-O)
    Plus the only reason it's a zip archive is to include the
    documentation and mounting a real hd howto...

    You probably already mentioned this, but will this project run on a raspberry pi, or does it need to be on an intel machine? Thanks!

    Could you email me at "vk3heg@gmail.com". There might be someting
    secret comming!! &->

    On its way. :)



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