• In this list? (NET4)

    From Avon@21:1/101 to All on Tue Apr 9 20:33:35 2024
    Hi there

    Since we have cut over to the new NET 4 HUB the following nodes have not polled to collect HELD traffic for them or have not been able to be reached if set to CRASH traffic.

    Do you run one of these systems or know someone who does?

    Do you know if any of these systems have closed down or could be on auto/zombie mode?

    Please drop me an email or post a reply to this thread. Thanks for your help.

    Nodes in NET 4 should be polling net4.fsxnet.nz:24560 to collect traffic.

    Here's the list, in most cases there's 9+ days of packets being held at the HUB per node... essentially no contact from the node since cutover.

    [snip]

    101 Back to the Future Bill Simon bttfbbs.com
    103 The Undermine BBS Kostie Muirhead bbs.undermine.ca:423
    110 BZ&BZ BBS Steve Thielemann bbs.red-green.com:4023
    118 Bit's Lair BBS Yeray Dorta -- Private Node --
    120 Deep Space Gateway Sam Penwright deepspacegateway.net
    125 Veleno BBS Thomas Bampi velenobbs.ddns.net
    136 Total Lost BBS Dennis Eklund bbs.deek.se
    139 Mythical Kingdom Tech Mark May bbs.mythicalkingdom.com
    141 Constructive Chaos Craig Hendricks conchaos.synchro.net
    147 Aliens' Alcove BBS Eric Pareja aliens.free.net.ph
    156 The Rock BBS III Michael Batts therockbbs.net:10023
    158 The Alpha Complex Robbie Whiting alphacomplex.us:2323
    163 Jensencloud BBS Pat Jensen jensencloud.net
    164 Fusion BBS Chris Schneider fusion.zapto.org
    170 Amiga Retro Brisbane BBS Mark Casteleijn www.amigaretro.com:23
    171 Star Frontiers BBS William Williams starfron.synchronetbbs.org
    172 Dark Forces BBS Mark Iezzi darkforcesbbs.dyndns.org:2200 177 Alcoholiday BBS Andy Haworth alco.bbs.io
    179 BBSing Canada Darren Crawford bbsing.ca
    181 PlaneT Afr0 BBS Jason Reznor planetafr0.org:8888
    182 RedFrog BBS Ergo Paalaman redfrog.duckdns.org:2323
    186 Excelsior BBS Michael Christoffersen awesome.fredslev.net:6969
    187 Operation Ivy BBS David Sachs opivy-bbs.com

    [snip]

    By end of this month I'll end up purging nodes that remain out of contact / make no contact etc.

    x-posting to FSX_GEN and FSX_NET

    Best, Paul

    Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

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  • From Shurato@21:2/148 to Avon on Tue Apr 9 03:14:00 2024

    Hi there

    Since we have cut over to the new NET 4 HUB the following nodes have not polled to collect HELD traffic for them or have not been able to be reached if set to CRASH traffic.

    Do you run one of these systems or know someone who does?

    Do you know if any of these systems have closed down or could be on auto/zombie mode?

    Please drop me an email or post a reply to this thread. Thanks for your help.

    Nodes in NET 4 should be polling net4.fsxnet.nz:24560 to collect traffic.

    Here's the list, in most cases there's 9+ days of packets being held at the HUB per node... essentially no contact from the node since cutover.

    [snip]

    Constructive Chaos Craig Hendricks conchaos.synchro.net 147

    Is active as far as I know. I'm not sure why he wouldn't be polling or accepting crashes.

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Shurato on Wed Apr 10 09:02:57 2024
    On 09 Apr 2024 at 03:14a, Shurato pondered and said...

    Constructive Chaos Craig Hendricks conchaos.synchro.net 147

    Is active as far as I know. I'm not sure why he wouldn't be polling or accepting crashes.

    interesting thanks, yes Andrew in fsx_gen mentioned the sysop has signaled he's shutting down at the end of this month... so I guess that process has started...?

    Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

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  • From Vorlon@21:1/195 to Avon on Wed Apr 10 10:36:32 2024

    Hello Avon!

    09 Apr 24 20:33, you wrote to all:

    147 Aliens' Alcove BBS Eric Pareja aliens.free.net.ph

    The issue I emaild you about has been fixed, but I think his system is still on autopilot. #-;



    Vorlon


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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to Avon on Tue Apr 9 18:12:36 2024
    * = emailed sysop about no polling
    ? = no address listed
    n = no answer
    ?? = system broken/can't create new user

    [snip]
    * 101 Back to the Future Bill Simon bttfbbs.com
    n 103 The Undermine BBS Kostie Muirhead bbs.undermine.ca:423
    n 110 BZ&BZ BBS Steve Thielemann bbs.red-green.com:4023
    ? 118 Bit's Lair BBS Yeray Dorta -- Private Node --
    n 120 Deep Space Gateway Sam Penwright deepspacegateway.net
    * 125 Veleno BBS Thomas Bampi velenobbs.ddns.net
    n 136 Total Lost BBS Dennis Eklund bbs.deek.se
    n 139 Mythical Kingdom Tech Mark May bbs.mythicalkingdom.com
    n 141 Constructive Chaos Craig Hendricks conchaos.synchro.net
    * 147 Aliens' Alcove BBS Eric Pareja aliens.free.net.ph
    * 156 The Rock BBS III Michael Batts therockbbs.net:10023
    * 158 The Alpha Complex Robbie Whiting alphacomplex.us:2323
    n 163 Jensencloud BBS Pat Jensen jensencloud.net
    n 164 Fusion BBS Chris Schneider fusion.zapto.org
    * 170 Amiga Retro Brisbane BBS Mark Casteleijn www.amigaretro.com:23
    n 171 Star Frontiers BBS William Williams starfron.synchronetbbs.org
    * 172 Dark Forces BBS Mark Iezzi darkforcesbbs.dyndns.org:2200
    * 177 Alcoholiday BBS Andy Haworth alco.bbs.io
    n 179 BBSing Canada Darren Crawford bbsing.ca
    * 181 PlaneT Afr0 BBS Jason Reznor planetafr0.org:8888
    ?? 182 RedFrog BBS Ergo Paalaman redfrog.duckdns.org:2323
    n 186 Excelsior BBS Michael Christoffersen awesome.fredslev.net:6969
    * 187 Operation Ivy BBS David Sachs opivy-bbs.com
    [snip]

    :P



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  • From claw@21:1/210 to paulie420 on Tue Apr 9 23:26:47 2024
    On 09 Apr 2024, paulie420 said the following...

    * = emailed sysop about no polling
    ? = no address listed
    n = no answer
    ?? = system broken/can't create new user

    pAULIE42o

    Paulie! You are awesome! Just a pillar of the community. I don't think you get the thanks you deserve. BBSing it just better because of you!

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    |16|14Sysop |12Noverdu |14BBS |20|15Radio|10@|14HTTP://Noverdu.com:88
    |16|10 Standard ports for SSH/Telnet |04 WEB|14@|12HTTP://noverdu.com:808 |20|15Global Chat, Global Messaging and Games! |16|10Ditch the Unsocial Media

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to paulie420 on Wed Apr 10 16:54:32 2024
    On 09 Apr 2024 at 06:12p, paulie420 pondered and said...

    * = emailed sysop about no polling
    ? = no address listed
    n = no answer
    ?? = system broken/can't create new user

    wow, thanks so much, the a top effort. I do hope those who you emailed can respond and update their settings in the coming week.

    I'm finding the daily queue stats for NET 4 helpful to see which nodes are sorted and those who remain MIA or gone-burgers...

    Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to claw on Wed Apr 10 16:55:09 2024
    On 09 Apr 2024 at 11:26p, claw pondered and said...

    Paulie! You are awesome! Just a pillar of the community. I don't think you get the thanks you deserve. BBSing it just better because of you!

    hear hear... that's so very helpful and super kind of Paulie to do this.

    Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

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  • From Intangybles@21:4/170 to paulie420 on Wed Apr 10 16:27:33 2024
    Many thanks for the email paulie420!

    All fixed now!


    And thanks to Avon too for his quick email reply!


    Mark.

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Intangybles on Wed Apr 10 19:23:57 2024
    On 10 Apr 2024 at 04:27p, Intangybles pondered and said...

    Many thanks for the email paulie420!

    All fixed now!

    And thanks to Avon too for his quick email reply!
    Mark.

    Welcome back Mark, thanks for reaching out so quickly and also to Paulie for the email assist :)

    Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Vorlon on Wed Apr 10 19:29:58 2024
    On 10 Apr 2024 at 10:36a, Vorlon pondered and said...

    The issue I emaild you about has been fixed, but I think his system is still on autopilot. #-;

    noted, thanks... I have a look at what's happening with 1/10 connects now.

    Hopefully Paulie may be able to make some progress

    Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to paulie420 on Wed Apr 10 19:32:05 2024
    On 09 Apr 2024 at 06:12p, paulie420 pondered and said...

    * = emailed sysop about no polling

    * 156 The Rock BBS III Michael Batts therockbbs.net:10023

    ..this one is showing as BLOCKED at my end when I try to poll the system.

    + 10 Apr 19:29:40 [18277] call to 21:4/156@fsxnet
    10 Apr 19:29:40 [18277] trying therockbbs.net [170.203.170.194]...
    10 Apr 19:29:40 [18277] connected
    + 10 Apr 19:29:40 [18277] outgoing session with therockbbs.net:24554 [170.203.170.194]
    ? 10 Apr 19:29:40 [18277] got M_BSY: Blocked
    + 10 Apr 19:29:40 [18277] holding 21:4/156@fsxnet (2024/04/10 19:44:40)
    + 10 Apr 19:29:40 [18277] done (to 21:4/156@fsxnet, failed, S/R: 0/0 (0/0 bytes))
    10 Apr 19:29:40 [18277] session closed, quitting...

    Hopefully he can unblock 103.193.138.76 and whitelist it.

    Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

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  • From Intangybles@21:4/170 to Avon on Thu Apr 11 08:46:23 2024
    On 10 Apr 2024, Avon said the following...

    On 10 Apr 2024 at 04:27p, Intangybles pondered and said...

    Many thanks for the email paulie420!

    All fixed now!

    Welcome back Mark, thanks for reaching out so quickly and also to Paulie for the email assist :)

    Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not

    Great to be back!

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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to claw on Wed Apr 10 19:07:28 2024
    * = emailed sysop about no polling
    ? = no address listed
    n = no answer
    ?? = system broken/can't create new user

    Paulie! You are awesome! Just a pillar of the community. I don't think you get the thanks you deserve. BBSing it just better because of you!

    Thanks Claw. Yer board is looking awesome lately - I haven't dialed in for too long, I'll come by and say hello. Appreciate yer words - I love playing in this sandbox!



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  • From paulie420@21:2/150 to Avon on Wed Apr 10 19:09:57 2024
    * 156 The Rock BBS III Michael Batts therockbbs.net:10023
    ..this one is showing as BLOCKED at my end when I try to poll the system.

    Hopefully he can unblock 103.193.138.76 and whitelist it.

    I got the IP and will send that, too - but I do know, or remember it being the case anyway, that the Rock III sysOp was much less involved/around in the past year.

    I'll try to get the msg out tho.



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  • From Vorlon@21:1/196 to Avon on Fri Apr 12 20:07:57 2024
    Hi Avon,

    On Wednesday April 10 2024, Avon said to Vorlon:

    The issue I emaild you about has been fixed, but I think his system is
    still on autopilot. #-;

    noted, thanks... I have a look at what's happening with 1/10 connects
    now.
    Hopefully Paulie may be able to make some progress

    So many systems on autopilot... and then they just stop...

    Technically they are still functioning, but it leaves a lot to be desired.
    #-9



    \/orlon
    aka
    Stephen

    Rocking FSXnet with an Amiga 4000 and Zeus BBS.

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  • From Exodus@21:1/144 to Vorlon on Fri Apr 12 15:12:35 2024
    So many systems on autopilot... and then they just stop...

    I don't, and never have understood the "thrill" of setting up a BBS, not doing anything to it, never logging into it, never checking on it, but let it run with nothing on it.

    ... DOS Perot: you boot, it decides whether it wants to run.

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  • From Gamgee@21:2/138 to Exodus on Fri Apr 12 15:49:00 2024
    Exodus wrote to Vorlon <=-

    So many systems on autopilot... and then they just stop...

    I don't, and never have understood the "thrill" of setting up a
    BBS, not doing anything to it, never logging into it, never
    checking on it, but let it run with nothing on it.

    I agree and don't understand it either. Even more so when the BBS is connected to FTN message nets. Quite an aggravating thing, for me.



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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to Exodus on Fri Apr 12 14:31:00 2024
    Re: Re: In this list? (NET4)
    By: Exodus to Vorlon on Fri Apr 12 2024 03:12 pm

    So many systems on autopilot... and then they just stop...

    I don't, and never have understood the "thrill" of setting up a BBS, not doing anything to it, never logging into it, never checking on it, but let it run with nothing on it.

    I think a lot of sysops do put time to customize it, but sometimes I think some sysops get busy and their BBS becomes a low priority for them for a while but they still want to keep running it. They might get back to it at some point when they have more free time.

    Nightfox
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  • From deon@21:2/116 to Nightfox on Sat Apr 13 09:11:24 2024
    Re: Re: In this list? (NET4)
    By: Nightfox to Exodus on Fri Apr 12 2024 02:31 pm

    I don't, and never have understood the "thrill" of setting up a BBS, not doing anything to it, never logging into it, never checking on it, but let it run with nothing on it.

    I think a lot of sysops do put time to customize it, but sometimes I think some sysops get busy and their BBS becomes a low priority for them for a while but they still want to keep running it. They might get back to it at some point when they have more free time.

    I actually think it's the realisation that there are few "users".

    In the 90's you didnt have to wait long before you heard the modem answer, and the curiosity of what they were doing. These days, there are many "old" sysops and a few if any visitors. I can see why they loose interest, especially if they dont want to chat via an old text interface that may or may not get a response...


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  • From apam@21:1/182.1 to deon on Sat Apr 13 09:24:23 2024
    Re: Re: In this list? (NET4)
    By: deon to Nightfox on Sat Apr 13 2024 09:11 am

    I don't, and never have understood the "thrill" of setting up a BBS,
    not doing anything to it, never logging into it, never checking on it,
    but let it run with nothing on it.

    I think a lot of sysops do put time to customize it, but sometimes I think
    some sysops get busy and their BBS becomes a low priority for them for a
    while but they still want to keep running it. They might get back to it at
    some point when they have more free time.

    I actually think it's the realisation that there are few "users".

    Maybe, or maybe they enjoy the thinking up a theme, setting up the software, customizing it, and once they are finished it just gets boring. I am like that, I've been here a while now, and I'm always starting new bbses and shutting down old ones. I like seeing what different BBS packages are up to, tinkering with my own, coming up with themes etc.

    I kind of think of it a bit like distro/os hopping - installing a new distro, tinkering, setting things up.. once it runs smoothly it gets boring, or there is an itch to try another thing.

    Andrew
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  • From Exodus@21:1/144 to Gamgee on Fri Apr 12 19:34:36 2024

    I agree and don't understand it either. Even more so when the BBS is connected to FTN message nets. Quite an aggravating thing, for me.

    I have a couple of those over here in Metronet ... drives me nuts, I end up delisting them and some how 2 years later they start polling again and finally logon and ask why there is no mail. Well, because you quit polling for mail 2 years ago, don't think I'm gonna hold it for more than 3 weeks for you at most.

    ... Great; Custer had a plan, too.

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  • From Exodus@21:1/144 to Nightfox on Fri Apr 12 19:35:44 2024
    I think a lot of sysops do put time to customize it, but sometimes I think some sysops get busy and their BBS becomes a low priority for them for a wh but they still want to keep running it. They might get back to it at some point when they have more free time.

    I'm not talking about the ones that "started" and tried. I'm talking about the ones that put up default Synchronet boards and default mystic boards and leave them sit with nothing done to it but a telnet address to it. If I wanted that I could unzip the archive and see myself.

    ... Set. Spike. Dig. I do it in the sand.

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  • From Exodus@21:1/144 to Apam on Fri Apr 12 19:37:20 2024

    Maybe, or maybe they enjoy the thinking up a theme, setting up the software customizing it, and once they are finished it just gets boring. I am like

    No, I was talking about the ones that unzip the archive, get a telnet address and click on the .exe and never look at it again without having ANYTHING done to it.

    ... Wife: A slave who demands to be set on a throne

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  • From Utopian Galt@21:4/108 to Avon on Fri Apr 12 17:00:17 2024
    BY: Avon (21:1/101)
    I am helping to contact Alien's Alcove for you via WWIVnet to help you.


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  • From apam@21:1/182.1 to Exodus on Sat Apr 13 11:08:20 2024
    Re: Re: In this list? (NET4)
    By: Exodus to Apam on Fri Apr 12 2024 07:37 pm

    No, I was talking about the ones that unzip the archive, get a telnet address and click on the .exe and never look at it again without having ANYTHING done to it.

    Who knows? maybe they thought it might be fun, it's not all that fun, but they leave it up to see what happens, then realize it's just not fun and take it down.

    Andrew
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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to deon on Fri Apr 12 18:16:05 2024
    Re: Re: In this list? (NET4)
    By: deon to Nightfox on Sat Apr 13 2024 09:11 am

    In the 90's you didnt have to wait long before you heard the modem answer, and the curiosity of what they were doing. These days, there are many "old" sysops and a few if any visitors. I can see why they loose interest, especially if they dont want to chat via an old text interface that may or may not get a response...

    I suppose that's true. And I wonder how many actually are sysops vs. users. Over the years, I've had quite a few people log in who seem to like to play various games fairly regularly. They might log in and play for a few weeks, a couple months, or so and then stop.

    Nightfox
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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Vorlon on Sat Apr 13 14:52:44 2024
    On 12 Apr 2024 at 08:07p, Vorlon pondered and said...

    So many systems on autopilot... and then they just stop...

    Technically they are still functioning, but it leaves a lot to be
    desired. #-9

    Yes it's a mixed indeed but that's the nature of it, it does make it harder from a network admin point of view when you have a system running on auto you're connecting with and you ideally need the sysop to make a change but they are not about this week, or next, or... but at least it's up and running I guess.

    Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Exodus on Sat Apr 13 14:54:09 2024
    On 12 Apr 2024 at 03:12p, Exodus pondered and said...

    I don't, and never have understood the "thrill" of setting up a BBS, not doing anything to it, never logging into it, never checking on it, but
    let it run with nothing on it.

    I'm not sure those who are running non attended but active systems are all never doing x or y... all we can say for sure is that they are not actively doing something with the BBS at this time..

    Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Utopian Galt on Sat Apr 13 14:59:19 2024
    On 12 Apr 2024 at 05:00p, Utopian Galt pondered and said...

    BY: Avon (21:1/101)
    I am helping to contact Alien's Alcove for you via WWIVnet to help you.

    thanks!

    Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

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  • From Gamgee@21:2/138 to Exodus on Fri Apr 12 21:44:00 2024
    Exodus wrote to Gamgee <=-

    I agree and don't understand it either. Even more so when the BBS is connected to FTN message nets. Quite an aggravating thing, for me.

    I have a couple of those over here in Metronet ... drives me
    nuts, I end up delisting them and some how 2 years later they
    start polling again and finally logon and ask why there is no
    mail. Well, because you quit polling for mail 2 years ago,
    don't think I'm gonna hold it for more than 3 weeks for you at
    most.

    Yep, I have downlinks in a couple of Nets, and will email the Sysop if I notice a lapse of a day or so. So far that seems to have worked well in getting some corrective action done. I have had to put a couple on
    "pause" for a few days until they happened to bother to check email. Not
    sure how that happens in today's world, with email-on-phones being the
    norm as far as I can see. <SHRUG>



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  • From Vorlon@21:1/196 to Exodus on Sat Apr 13 17:11:58 2024
    Hi Exoidus,

    On Friday April 12 2024, Exodus said to Vorlon:

    So many systems on autopilot... and then they just stop...

    I don't, and never have understood the "thrill" of setting up a BBS, not doing anything to it, never logging into it, never checking on it, but
    let it run with nothing on it.

    Same here... There have been many stock systems just left with no customisation, except for adding a FTN network.


    \/orlon
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    Stephen

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  • From Vorlon@21:1/196 to Avon on Sat Apr 13 17:13:50 2024
    Hi Avon,

    On Saturday April 13 2024, Avon said to Vorlon:

    So many systems on autopilot... and then they just stop... Technically
    they are still functioning, but it leaves a lot to be desired. #-9

    Yes it's a mixed indeed but that's the nature of it, it does make it
    harder from a network admin point of view when you have a system running
    on auto you're connecting with and you ideally need the sysop to make a change but they are not about this week, or next, or... but at least
    it's up and running I guess.

    That is true, but they really do need to check in at times... There are two systems in the fido network here, but it could be more. Technically they are still functioning, but I know one of the sysop's has just lost his mojo (Confirmed via Email from him), and not the recent one... #0-9



    \/orlon
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    Stephen

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  • From niter3@21:1/199 to Nightfox on Sat Apr 13 06:08:04 2024
    I think a lot of sysops do put time to customize it, but sometimes I
    think some sysops get busy and their BBS becomes a low priority for them for a while but they still want to keep running it. They might get back to it at some point when they have more free time.

    This exactly...

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  • From Blue White@21:4/134 to Exodus on Sat Apr 13 08:20:10 2024
    I don't, and never have understood the "thrill" of setting up a BBS,
    not doing
    anything to it, never logging into it, never checking on it, but let
    it run
    with nothing on it.

    While I never had one running completely on autopilot, there were a few
    years where users were even harder to come by than now and I would only
    check mail, etc., maybe once/twice a week. In my case, the trill had
    gone out some because of lack of users.

    The reason for letting it run was that I would sometimes want to get back
    into it and tinker around some (especially when the weather got cold) and
    the hope I would eventually feel like getting back in full time. I
    did. :)



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  • From Exodus@21:1/144 to Gamgee on Sat Apr 13 12:27:34 2024

    Yep, I have downlinks in a couple of Nets, and will email the Sysop if I notice a lapse of a day or so. So far that seems to have worked well in getting some corrective action done. I have had to put a couple on

    I think part of the problem is stupid mystic and it's stupid busy flags. I guess people don't know how to make batch files anymore to check/erase these falags every night to be on the safe side. It's not that hard to do an IF EXIST *.BSY DEL *.BSY ..... I don't get it. When did people get so dumb? They HAVE to have a midnight maint.bat file to run all the door game maintenances, so not that hard to had ONE line in there to check and clear these flags. Sigh.

    ... Nobody ever bet too much on a winning horse.

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  • From Gamgee@21:2/138 to Exodus on Sat Apr 13 16:21:00 2024
    Exodus wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Yep, I have downlinks in a couple of Nets, and will email the Sysop if I notice a lapse of a day or so. So far that seems to have worked well in getting some corrective action done. I have had to put a couple on

    I think part of the problem is stupid mystic and it's stupid busy
    flags. I guess people don't know how to make batch files anymore
    to check/erase these falags every night to be on the safe side.
    It's not that hard to do an IF EXIST *.BSY DEL *.BSY ..... I
    don't get it. When did people get so dumb? They HAVE to have a
    midnight maint.bat file to run all the door game maintenances, so
    not that hard to had ONE line in there to check and clear these
    flags. Sigh.

    Yeah, that makes good sense. I don't know much about Mystic but have
    heard that is a common issue. There are .BSY files used in Synchronet
    too, but they seem to be self-clearing as designed. <SHRUG>

    Most of my downlink issues seem to be when a system goes down for
    whatever reason, and the sysop doesn't seem to notice for a day or two.
    I keep a much closer eye than that on my stuff.



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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Vorlon on Sun Apr 14 11:01:17 2024
    On 13 Apr 2024 at 05:13p, Vorlon pondered and said...

    That is true, but they really do need to check in at times... There are two systems in the fido network here, but it could be more. Technically they are still functioning, but I know one of the sysop's has just lost his mojo (Confirmed via Email from him), and not the recent one... #0-9

    I lost my mojo once, but thankfully found it under the sofa about 9 months later ;-p

    ... as long as the system is running I'm fine to connect to it / feed packets etc.. but yep when it's on auto for a long time and something changes in the setup that's when it gets a bit tricky.

    Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

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  • From Vorlon@21:1/196 to deon on Tue Apr 16 10:56:55 2024
    Hi Deon,

    On Saturday April 13 2024, Deon said to Nightfox:

    while but they still want to keep running it. They might get back to it
    at some point when they have more free time.

    I actually think it's the realisation that there are few "users".

    That big thing called the "Internet" killed the loacl feal of BBS's.. I know back in time, my system became a small neice ISP and expanded to 21 lines before the BIG guys came to town and ADSL also came about...

    I can see why they loose interest, especially if they dont want to chat via an old text interface D> that may or may not get a response...

    All the BBS information out there show's that it's more of a txt based
    system, and not a GUI that a user can point a mouse at and click a button. There is alo the issue that some people think that FB/Websites are the "Internet" and don't do anything else.


    \/orlon
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    Stephen

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  • From Vorlon@21:1/196 to apam on Tue Apr 16 11:04:05 2024
    Hi apam,

    On Saturday April 13 2024, Apam said to Exodus:

    No, I was talking about the ones that unzip the archive, get a telnet
    address and click on the .exe and never look at it again without
    having ANYTHING done to it.

    Who knows? maybe they thought it might be fun, it's not all that fun,
    but they leave it up to see what happens, then realize it's just not fun and take it down.

    More like "It's go no pretty pictures or buttons that a mouse can click
    on".... $-;



    \/orlon
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    Stephen

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  • From Vorlon@21:1/196 to Avon on Tue Apr 16 11:17:29 2024
    Hi Avon,

    On Sunday April 14 2024, Avon said to Vorlon:

    Technically they are still functioning, but I know one of the sysop's
    has just lost his mojo (Confirmed via Email from him), and not the
    recent one... #0-9

    I lost my mojo once, but thankfully found it under the sofa about 9
    months later ;-p

    Was it green and moldy?

    ... as long as the system is running I'm fine to connect to it / feed packets etc.. but yep when it's on auto for a long time and something changes in the setup that's when it gets a bit tricky.

    That's the problem right there... Getting a "Disk Full" message from the
    latest one was what tipped me off about the issue. His mail is now on hold
    so my system dosn't poll every x minutes to deliver packets...


    \/orlon
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    Stephen

    Rocking FSXnet with an Amiga 4000 and Zeus BBS.

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  • From Roon@21:4/148 to Nightfox on Sat Apr 20 15:28:47 2024
    Hello Nightfox,

    12 Apr 24 14:31, you wrote to Exodus:

    So many systems on autopilot... and then they just stop...

    I don't, and never have understood the "thrill" of setting up a
    BBS, not doing anything to it, never logging into it, never
    checking on it, but let it run with nothing on it.

    I think a lot of sysops do put time to customize it, but sometimes I
    think some sysops get busy and their BBS becomes a low priority for
    them for a while but they still want to keep running it. They might
    get back to it at some point when they have more free time.

    this is similar to my case. i try to read netmail/private messages in every 1-2-3 days, but sometimes i just don't have the energy for it and i'll sleep instead. in this year i've travelled a lot, i have a 2.5 year old kid, sometimes i have to work ;) and i've started to renew with my 2 hands one of our houses + sport + other hobbies. :)

    Regards,
    --
    dp

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  • From Roon@21:4/148 to Exodus on Sat Apr 20 15:35:58 2024
    Hello Exodus,

    12 Apr 24 19:35, you wrote to Nightfox:

    I think a lot of sysops do put time to customize it, but sometimes
    I think some sysops get busy and their BBS becomes a low priority
    for them for a wh but they still want to keep running it. They
    might get back to it at some point when they have more free time.

    I'm not talking about the ones that "started" and tried. I'm talking
    about the ones that put up default Synchronet boards and default
    mystic boards and leave them sit with nothing done to it but a telnet address to it. If I wanted that I could unzip the archive and see
    myself.

    it's funny because back in the 90s i had an almost stock Maximus running with huge file/message areas and it was one of the busiest bbs in hungary.

    now i've built a Maximus with custom ansis and a huge amount of homebrew MEX scripts and door games.
    i was too young at that time, my english and coding skills were weak and i've concentraded more on building a reliable _system_ than on graphx and stuff.

    Regards,
    --
    dp

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  • From AKAcastor@21:1/162 to Roon on Mon Apr 22 01:17:02 2024
    now i've built a Maximus with custom ansis and a huge
    amount of homebrew MEX scripts and door games.
    i was too young at that time, my english and coding
    skills were weak and i've concentraded more on building
    a reliable _system_ than on graphx and stuff.

    I'll confirm, Roon's BBS is excellent. I love the Maximus OS/2 system (my favourite for 30 years and counting) and the ANSIs are great and I can download mail with Blue Wave, it's great all around! A great example of a well-run Maximus BBS.

    Thanks for running a great BBS, Roon!

    For anyone who hasn't called in, it's bbs.roonsbbs.hu:1212


    Chris/akacastor


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  • From Exodus@21:1/144 to Roon on Mon Apr 22 06:08:50 2024

    it's funny because back in the 90s i had an almost stock Maximus running wi huge file/message areas and it was one of the busiest bbs in hungary.

    Then you weren't "stock" ... you had files and messages. These boards have NOTHING.

    ... It's not 0 to 60 that counts... it's 85 to 55 that matters!

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