• Pondering

    From Avon@21:1/101 to All on Wed Apr 3 14:50:32 2024
    Removing the fsxNet echomail + network stats echo FSX_STA
    Instead just posting this info to fsxnet.nz website.

    Thoughts?

    Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

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  • From niter3@21:1/199 to Avon on Wed Apr 3 04:54:27 2024
    Removing the fsxNet echomail + network stats echo FSX_STA
    Instead just posting this info to fsxnet.nz website.

    Fine by me.. :D Not sure that matters however.

    Just let us know so we can nuke it on our ends.

    ... Shortcut: longest distance between two points

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  • From Blue White@21:4/134 to Avon on Wed Apr 3 08:17:06 2024
    Removing the fsxNet echomail + network stats echo FSX_STA
    Instead just posting this info to fsxnet.nz website.

    Thoughts?

    I actually use some of the info in that one to keep up with whether or
    not I am running the correct versions of Galactic Dynasty and For Honour.
    I don't check the website much but also don't really pay attention to
    the other stats messages in that echo.



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  • From Gamgee@21:2/138 to Avon on Wed Apr 3 08:06:00 2024
    Avon wrote to All <=-

    Removing the fsxNet echomail + network stats echo FSX_STA
    Instead just posting this info to fsxnet.nz website.

    Thoughts?

    Sounds like a good idea to me.



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  • From Roon@21:4/148 to Avon on Wed Apr 3 18:18:55 2024
    Hello Avon,

    03 Apr 24 14:50, you wrote to All:

    Removing the fsxNet echomail + network stats echo FSX_STA
    Instead just posting this info to fsxnet.nz website.

    Thoughts?

    sometimes i read the stats echoes for debugging. FSX_STA was the first i realized that the mailflow in net4 is kinda hectic.

    Regards,
    --
    dp

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  • From Al@21:4/106 to Avon on Wed Apr 3 10:52:20 2024
    Removing the fsxNet echomail + network stats echo FSX_STA
    Instead just posting this info to fsxnet.nz website.

    Thoughts?

    I read the stats area at different times for different reasons. It's handy.

    I have no problem reading it in the echo or the web but I find the echo convenient.

    Of course those who don't want the stats can delink if they choose.

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to All on Thu Apr 4 13:17:38 2024
    On 03 Apr 2024 at 10:52a, Al pondered and said...

    I read the stats area at different times for different reasons. It's handy.

    I have no problem reading it in the echo or the web but I find the echo convenient.

    so far (on balance) I'd say feedback is more weighted to leave as is in echomail... but what I think I'll do next is ensure we're getting some stats (where we can) for other HUBs posted into the echo and also work to get the same content all up on fsxnet.nz as well as for now it's a bit hit and miss as to what is available and where.

    Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

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  • From apam@21:1/182 to Roon on Thu Apr 4 14:44:00 2024
    On Wed Apr 3 18:18:00 2024, Roon wrote to Avon <=-

    Hello Avon,

    03 Apr 24 14:50, you wrote to All:

    Removing the fsxNet echomail + network stats echo FSX_STA
    Instead just posting this info to fsxnet.nz website.

    Thoughts?

    sometimes i read the stats echoes for debugging. FSX_STA was the first i realized that the mailflow in net4 is kinda hectic.


    I agree, even just having the stats area with regular mail you can tell if your feed has stopped working by there being no stats (Though BBS Ads also fulfill this purpose.)

    Andrew


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  • From n2qfd@21:1/154 to Avon on Thu Apr 4 20:11:10 2024
    I guess I like thumbing though them,
    I don't have a great reason to not consolidate though.

    --------------------------------
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    ][ Queen City BBS ][
    ][ queencitybbs.ddns.net:607 ][

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to All on Sat Apr 6 16:51:04 2024
    On 04 Apr 2024 at 01:17p, Avon pondered and said...

    so far (on balance) I'd say feedback is more weighted to leave as is in echomail... but what I think I'll do next is ensure we're getting some stats (where we can) for other HUBs posted into the echo and also work
    to get the same content all up on fsxnet.nz as well as for now it's a
    bit hit and miss as to what is available and where.

    first steps today, working on getting some stats for NET 4 with a focus on BinkP traffic as well as files/echomail held at the HUB.

    I've done some work on batch files for this and the test results for both are posted below.

    [snip]
    ____ _ __ __
    / __/ _____ _ __ / | / / ___ / /_
    / /_ / ___/ | |/_/ / |/ / / _ \ / __/
    / __/ (__ ) _> < / /| / / __// /_
    /_/ /____/ /_/|_/ /_/ |_/ \___/ \__/

    The [F]un, [S]imple, e[X]perimental Network
    ===========================================

    (Est. 2015 | Zone 21 | fsxnet.nz)

    21:4/100 Queue Status
    Sat Apr 6 16:44:51 2024

    +------------------+--------+-----------+-----------+-----------+
    | Node | Days | NetMail | EchoMail | Files | +------------------+--------+-----------+-----------+-----------+
    | 21:4/101 | 6 | 0 | 380082 | 0 |
    | 21:4/103 | 6 | 0 | 1.0513M | 0 |
    | 21:4/104 | 6 | 0 | 640758 | 0 |
    | 21:4/108 | 0 | 0 | 857 | 0 |
    | 21:4/109 | 0 | 0 | 857 | 0 |
    | 21:4/110 | 6 | 0 | 1.0512M | 0 |
    | 21:4/118 | 6 | 0 | 644583 | 0 |
    | 21:4/120 | 6 | 0 | 766291 | 0 |
    | 21:4/124 | 0 | 0 | 858 | 0 |
    | 21:4/125 | 6 | 0 | 1.0520M | 0 |
    | 21:4/128 | 6 | 0 | 641498 | 0 |
    | 21:4/134 | 0 | 0 | 1402 | 0 |
    | 21:4/136 | 6 | 0 | 679895 | 0 |
    | 21:4/137 | 0 | 0 | 860 | 0 |
    | 21:4/138 | 0 | 0 | 42088 | 0 |
    | 21:4/139 | 6 | 0 | 1.0531M | 0 |
    | 21:4/141 | 6 | 0 | 1.0531M | 0 |
    | 21:4/142 | 6 | 0 | 1.0589M | 0 |
    | 21:4/144 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 182117 |
    | 21:4/147 | 6 | 0 | 1.0500M | 0 |
    | 21:4/156 | 3 | 0 | 620183 | 0 |
    | 21:4/158 | 6 | 0 | 1.0531M | 0 |
    | 21:4/163 | 6 | 0 | 1.0531M | 0 |
    | 21:4/164 | 6 | 0 | 645836 | 0 |
    | 21:4/167 | 6 | 0 | 1.0530M | 0 |
    | 21:4/170 | 6 | 0 | 1.0530M | 0 |
    | 21:4/171 | 6 | 0 | 1.0530M | 0 |
    | 21:4/172 | 6 | 0 | 683858 | 0 |
    | 21:4/173 | 6 | 0 | 1.0530M | 0 |
    | 21:4/177 | 6 | 0 | 1.0529M | 0 |
    | 21:4/179 | 6 | 0 | 1.0529M | 0 |
    | 21:4/181 | 6 | 0 | 1.0530M | 0 |
    | 21:4/182 | 6 | 0 | 1.0530M | 0 |
    | 21:4/184 | 6 | 0 | 1.0530M | 0 |
    | 21:4/186 | 6 | 0 | 1.0530M | 0 |
    | 21:4/187 | 6 | 0 | 1.0530M | 0 | +------------------+--------+-----------+-----------+-----------+

    [snip]

    and..

    [snip]

    fsxNet Niba HUB (21:4/100) - Dunedin, New Zealand
    -- System Connections Summary --
    Sat, 06 Apr 2024

    旼컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴 Last Session Result: ' ' - Success, '!' - Failure
    Password: '*' - Present, ' ' - Absent, '?' - Error 袴袴袴袴袴袴袴袴佶袴袴袴袴袴袴袴袴袴袴袴袴佶袴袴袴錮袴袴袴袴袴袴佶袴袴袴袴
    튛 Address 쿛 In Out Cnct Bytes Bytes CPS
    ok err call ok err Time rcvd sent쿦fer쿐fct 픔컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컵컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컵컴컴컴컴탠컴컴컴컴컴컵컴컴탠컴캘 !failure 0 0 0 0 0 0:00:01 0 0 -- --
    21:1/100 * 184 0 20 20 0 0:00:09 953k 21k347k110k
    21:3/113 2 0 0 0 0 0:00:00 0 0 -- --
    21:4/102 * 29 0 256 0 0 0:00:29 1k 369k1784 13k
    21:4/105 * 2 0 179 179 0 0:06:57 2k 223k1650 555
    21:4/106 * 21 0 20 20 0 0:00:37 25k 19k13541268
    21:4/107 * 0 0 201 201 0 0:03:32 0 257k16621245
    21:4/108 * 1 0 0 0 0 0:00:17 0 621k 498 37k
    21:4/109 * 82 0 0 0 0 0:01:23 0 128k10861580 !21:4/110 ? 0 0 113 0 0 0:00:00 0 0 -- --
    21:4/113 * 0 0 145 145 0 0:03:58 0 149k1126 642
    21:4/114 * 0 0 164 164 0 0:10:50 0 188k1221 296
    21:4/116 * 0 0 64 64 0 0:01:11 0 79k12941141
    21:4/121 * 0 0 142 142 0 0:05:28 0 146k1122 459
    21:4/122 * 157 0 0 0 0 0:01:34 1k 186k13202049
    21:4/124 * 41 0 0 0 0 0:00:12 0 270k1762 23k
    21:4/131 * 44 0 200 197 0 0:06:55 1k 255k1664 636
    21:4/134 * 2 0 0 0 0 0:00:01 0 0 -- -- !21:4/136 ? 0 0 471 0 0 0:00:00 0 0 -- --
    21:4/137 * 123 0 243 0 0 0:01:38 0 149k11281563
    21:4/138 * 3 0 0 0 0 0:02:41 0 114k 67 726
    21:4/144 * 15 0 438 0 0 0:00:29 0 463k7357 16k
    21:4/145 * 41 0 199 199 0 0:06:08 0 258k1664 718
    21:4/148 * 13 0 189 189 0 0:09:14 11k 248k1628 481
    21:4/149 * 0 0 201 201 0 0:03:17 0 258k16641342
    21:4/151 * 36 0 200 200 0 0:06:57 0 258k1664 634
    21:4/152 39 0 0 0 0 0:00:19 0 0 -- --
    21:4/153 * 40 0 0 0 0 0:00:42 0 271k17606621 !21:4/156 0 0 471 0 471 0:03:00 0 0 -- --
    21:4/157 * 0 0 228 180 0 0:05:15 0 275k1753 894
    21:4/162 * 0 0 200 200 0 0:04:57 0 258k1657 890 !21:4/163 ? 0 0 337 0 0 0:00:00 0 0 -- -- !21:4/164 ? 0 0 471 0 0 0:00:00 0 0 -- -- !21:4/171 ? 0 0 474 0 0 0:00:00 0 0 -- --
    21:4/174 * 111 0 0 0 0 0:01:30 0 263k17563003
    21:4/176 * 0 0 200 200 0 0:05:31 0 258k1654 799
    21:4/183 * 6 0 79 79 0 0:03:28 0 116k1784 575
    21:4/185 * 41 0 0 0 0 0:00:38 0 269k17647256 픔컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컵컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컴컵컴컴컴컴탠컴컴컴컴컴컵컴컴탠컴캘
    Systems: 37 1033 0 5905 2580 471 1:39:18 998k 6M 47k1268 훤袴袴袴袴袴袴袴賈袴袴袴袴袴袴袴袴袴袴袴袴賈袴袴袴袴鳩袴袴袴袴袴賈袴袴鳩袴暠


    Hourly Analysis for Sat, 06 Apr 2024
    5.0k ................................................ 旼[] in 컴컴컴컴
    ................................................ traf : 110k
    ................................................ avgl : 0.21%
    ................................................ 읕컴컴컴컴컴컴컴켸
    ................................................ 旼[] in unsec 컴
    3.8k ................................................ traf : 0
    ................................................ avgl : 0.00%
    ................................................ 읕컴컴컴컴컴컴컴켸
    ............................................... 旼[] out 컴컴컴커
    ............................................... traf : 2M
    2.5k ............................................... avgl : 5.16%
    ............................................... 읕컴컴컴컴컴컴컴켸
    ............................................... 旼[] out unsec 커
    ............................................... traf : 0
    ............................................... avgl : 0.00%
    1.2k ............................................... 읕컴컴컴컴컴컴컴켸
    ...............................................
    낢...굇......................................
    낢.굇굇.........굇굇굇.굇...굇...............
    넴栢栢旁글旁栢栢旁栢栢栢栢栢栢栢글..............
    0 탠쩡쩡쩡쩡쩡쩡쩡쩡쩡쩡쩡쩡쩡쩡쩡쩡쩡쩡쩡쩡쩡쩡쩡
    0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 2 2 2 2
    0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4

    [snip]

    this is data pulled around 4.45pm on my Sat but I'll see if I can get these both auto posted into the stats echo tonight at my midnight... all working well and some backing up of logs also being automated, next steps will be to get these two reports onto fsxnet.nz

    so yep, getting there but it's taken me a few hours work to get to this point this afternoon, lots of cloning scripts and modding for the new HUB instance.

    Best, Paul

    Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to All on Sat Apr 6 21:44:31 2024
    On 06 Apr 2024 at 04:51p, Avon pondered and said...

    working well and some backing up of logs also being automated, next
    steps will be to get these two reports onto fsxnet.nz

    Spent a few more hours tonight on getting the data to fsxnet.nz

    I have created a couple of pages for NET 4 under the Stats section of the website. Hopefully when nightly utils run closer to midnight my time these pages will also be updated.

    Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From AKAcastor@21:1/162 to Avon on Sat Apr 6 11:16:50 2024
    Hi Avon (and other fsxNet long-timers), I'm curious about the fsxNet nets and hubs. (not because of any problems or concerns, just curiousity)

    Is there a difference between the nets within fsxNet?
    My understanding is there's a hub for each net, and those within the net receive echomail and files from their net's hub. Are some hubs offering different connection methods? Are there other differences?


    Thanks again for keeping this great network running smoothly!


    Chris/akacastor

    --- Maximus 3.01
    * Origin: Another Millennium - Canada - another.tel (21:1/162)
  • From Al@21:4/106 to AKAcastor on Sat Apr 6 15:05:40 2024
    Hi Avon (and other fsxNet long-timers), I'm curious about the fsxNet nets and hubs. (not because of any problems or concerns, just curiousity)

    Is there a difference between the nets within fsxNet?

    As I recall.. :)

    We started off with just net 1 and the FSX_GEN area.

    If I remember right net 2 was there almost from the start.

    fsxNet grew fairly quickly and soon a few more message areas were added and then a few file areas. More nets were added to get the job done.

    I had to take a hiatus from BBSing because I was working out of town for a short time and when I came back net 4 was just starting up and I was assigned a node in net 4 when I came back on the scene.

    Dan ran a great net/hub, his departure is a bit of a loss for fsxNet but I understand it's not always easy to find time for hobbies. Dan also wrote many mods for Mystic.

    My understanding is there's a hub for each net, and those within the net receive echomail and files from their net's hub. Are some hubs offering different connection methods? Are there other differences?

    Binkd is the main protocol used these days but ftp or even EMSI with a modem (if you have one). Some mailers do EMSI over telnet. Mine does but these are few and far between. I think net 3 might have such a thing.

    Net 3 is using a home grown tosser/mailer. It's bleeding edge.

    It's probably not needed in fsxNet but you could connect at another net, hub or node if you wanted/needed to do that.

    I am connected at net 1, 3 and 4 for example. I forget now why I did that but that is the way things have come together.

    Thanks again for keeping this great network running smoothly!

    I think Avon will give a better, more complete answer but that's how I remeber it.

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-6
    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)
  • From Avon@21:1/101 to All on Sun Apr 7 10:40:09 2024
    On 06 Apr 2024 at 09:44p, Avon pondered and said...

    Spent a few more hours tonight on getting the data to fsxnet.nz

    I have created a couple of pages for NET 4 under the Stats section of the website. Hopefully when nightly utils run closer to midnight my time
    these pages will also be updated.

    well a bit hit and miss, seems stats posted OK to the FSX_STA echo but there was a wobble with the BinkP traffic report sending to the fsxnet.nz website. I've pulled a few leavers and had a coffee.. let's see how tonight goes.

    Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From deon@21:2/116 to AKAcastor on Sun Apr 7 13:44:08 2024
    Re: Re: NET 4 Stats
    By: AKAcastor to Avon on Sat Apr 06 2024 11:16 am

    Howdy,

    Is there a difference between the nets within fsxNet?
    My understanding is there's a hub for each net, and those within the net receive echomail and files from their net's hub. Are some hubs offering different connection methods? Are there other differences?

    So I run Hub 3 - with something that I've created. My aim is self-service adminstration and to reduce some of the mundane activities required when running a distributed hub.

    Since I've created it, I'm happy to look at different connection methods - with the core aim to preservice this hobby that we use, while taking advantage of any of today's latest technologies. If there is something that you want to try, I'm happy to take a look.

    Currently implemented is IPv6 & IPv4 connectivity to BINKP, EMSI/Zmodem. You can use tor, zerotier, or TLS for any of those protocols. I'd even set up an API to get mail if there are others that would use it - and I'll probably do that when there is another clrhgouz hub...

    I even started putting together a BBS frontend to clrghouz - styled on videotex (which is something that used to work on in my younger days) - but that's far from being usable...

    I support all the different packet formats for bundled mail, as well as playing with new formats that help support a 5D FTN network, and/or accessing mail over low bandwidth links.


    ...依俺
    --- SBBSecho 3.20-Linux
    * Origin: I'm playing with ANSI+videotex - wanna play too? (21:2/116)
  • From Avon@21:1/101 to All on Sun Apr 7 16:17:42 2024
    On 07 Apr 2024 at 10:40a, Avon pondered and said...

    well a bit hit and miss, seems stats posted OK to the FSX_STA echo but there was a wobble with the BinkP traffic report sending to the
    fsxnet.nz website. I've pulled a few leavers and had a coffee.. let's
    see how tonight goes.

    More playing this afternoon, tried to pair back the Galactic Dynasty and For Honour reports into one post each vs two. Have also altered the Subject text for most stats reports posted as echomail and (hopefully) bunched them up so they post in a logical order - interbbs, net1, net4 ... time will tell, we'll see overnight what happens.

    A work in progress.

    Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From AKAcastor@21:1/162 to Al on Sun Apr 7 15:28:48 2024
    Binkd is the main protocol used these days but ftp or
    even EMSI with a modem (if you have one). Some mailers
    do EMSI over telnet. Mine does but these are few and far
    between. I think net 3 might have such a thing.

    I am interested in testing EMSI over telnet (and over modem), I have BinkleyTerm setup but haven't actually run mail through it. One of these days I might try connecting to your system with mail if you don't mind me testing with your system.

    I am connected at net 1, 3 and 4 for example. I forget
    now why I did that but that is the way things have come
    together.

    Do you send/receive mail through multiple nets? Any trouble with dupes?

    I think Avon will give a better, more complete answer
    but that's how I remeber it.

    Thanks for the recap of fsxNet history, it's exactly what I have been wondering about. Curious about any more details anybody else remembers and wants to fill in. :)


    Chris/akacastor

    --- Maximus 3.01
    * Origin: Another Millennium - Canada - another.tel (21:1/162)
  • From AKAcastor@21:1/162 to Deon on Sun Apr 7 15:35:46 2024
    So I run Hub 3 - with something that I've created. My
    aim is self-service adminstration and to reduce some of
    the mundane activities required when running a distributed hub.

    Very cool system you have built, a great project!

    Currently implemented is IPv6 & IPv4 connectivity to
    BINKP, EMSI/Zmodem. You can use tor, zerotier, or TLS
    for any of those protocols. I'd even set up an API to
    get mail if there are others that would use it - and
    I'll probably do that when there is another clrhgouz hub...

    Are there other systems using tor, zerotier, or TLS? Cool to have such a variety of connection options.

    I even started putting together a BBS frontend to
    clrghouz - styled on videotex (which is something that
    used to work on in my younger days) - but that's far from being usable...

    I never got to use a videotex system, as far as I recall. I read a bit about Minitel, but never used it, and I'm even less familiar with other videotex systems. Without knowing anything about it, I like the idea already. :)

    I support all the different packet formats for bundled
    mail, as well as playing with new formats that help
    support a 5D FTN network, and/or accessing mail over low bandwidth links.

    That's an awesome setup, sounds like a lot of fun to play with. I am still living in a 3D world over here! :)


    Chris/akacastor

    --- Maximus 3.01
    * Origin: Another Millennium - Canada - another.tel (21:1/162)
  • From deon@21:2/116 to AKAcastor on Mon Apr 8 09:17:46 2024
    Re: Re: NET 4 Stats
    By: AKAcastor to Deon on Sun Apr 07 2024 03:35 pm

    Howdy,

    Very cool system you have built, a great project!

    Thanks. I've actually enjoyed making it - if anything, I did so to pickup some different skills that I could use elsewhere...

    Are there other systems using tor, zerotier, or TLS? Cool to have such a variety of connection options.

    There are. TQWnet mail transfers with the main hub are over zerotier, some nodes poll and collect mail over TLS and tor.

    I never got to use a videotex system, as far as I recall. I read a bit about Minitel, but never used it, and I'm even less familiar with other videotex systems. Without knowing anything about it, I like the idea already. :)

    Australia's implementation of Videotex was similar to Minitel - probably more correctly similar to Prestel (the UK implementation).

    While Videotex is Mode 7 graphics, 40x25, I've actually implemented "AnsiTex", the same user interface but with ANSI graphics 80x25. My current BBS (Synchronet) is using an AnsiTex shell that I've been dabling with over the years. It too is half baked (page,navigation and message reading works OK, but I need to write a frame and msg editor to make useful).


    ...依俺
    --- SBBSecho 3.20-Linux
    * Origin: I'm playing with ANSI+videotex - wanna play too? (21:2/116)
  • From deon@21:2/116 to AKAcastor on Mon Apr 8 09:32:30 2024
    Re: Re: NET 4 Stats
    By: AKAcastor to Al on Sun Apr 07 2024 03:28 pm

    Howdy,

    I am interested in testing EMSI over telnet (and over modem), I have BinkleyTerm setup but haven't actually run mail through it. One of these days I might try connecting to your system with mail if you don't mind me testing with your system.

    You can test with Hub 3 - just let me know and I'll enable your address to receive/send mail.

    Be aware, Zmodem doesnt like uneven sides of a network pipe, and serial port buffers are smaller and empty slower than a TCP window. I wrote my Zmodem with the idea to control timings (so that it doesnt time out waiting for an ACK) and to use a smaller buffer size (so that faster side always has something to do before dying of boredom).

    I need to surface this tuning items to the end user to see if it helps, but havent had anybody who needed it yet. So if you have timeout issues (and use Hub 3) let me know...


    ...依俺
    --- SBBSecho 3.20-Linux
    * Origin: I'm playing with ANSI+videotex - wanna play too? (21:2/116)
  • From Exodus@21:1/144 to Akacastor on Sun Apr 7 20:37:57 2024

    I am interested in testing EMSI over telnet (and over modem), I have

    I quit doing this years back as FD over telnet had horrible Zmodem issues sometimes. It would just resend, resend, resend. Only reason is I got away from it was the bots killing me. So I went with the Net2BBS option and wrote my own blocking bot door to load before the BBS. Plus I also didn't have 4 nodes of FD weighing down resources for no reason waiting for a call.

    ... Which version of the truth would you prefer today?

    --- Renegade v1.35/DOS
    * Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.rgbbs.info (21:1/144)
  • From Al@21:4/106 to AKAcastor on Sun Apr 7 18:38:26 2024
    I am interested in testing EMSI over telnet (and over modem), I have BinkleyTerm setup but haven't actually run mail through it.

    I don't think I have ever had a session with BinkleyTerm, so that would be an interesting test.

    One of these days I might try connecting to your system with mail if you don't mind me testing with your system.

    By all means, test away. We should (theoretically) be able to send netmail back and forth with EMSI/Telnet as is.

    If you do this, let me know your hostname and port so I can reply.

    We could also setup a secure session to test echomail if you like. Let me know and we'll get it done.

    I am connected at net 1, 3 and 4 for example. I forget
    now why I did that but that is the way things have come
    together.

    Do you send/receive mail through multiple nets? Any trouble with dupes?

    When net 1 (or 3 or 4) sends out a message my node will be listed in the seenbys so the other nets won't send my node the message. If net 2 or 5 send out a message to the hubs my node will not be listed in the seenbys so I will get it from net 1, 3 and 4 (at least I should) so I do get a good number of dupes. The first message gets tossed as expected and the dupes are just dropped.

    If you arrange things like this you want a tosser that handles dupes properly.

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-6
    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)
  • From Exodus@21:1/144 to Al on Sun Apr 7 22:36:35 2024
    By all means, test away. We should (theoretically) be able to send netmail back and forth with EMSI/Telnet as is.

    It works ... was doing this 20 years ago on telnet. Zmodem just craps out on most mailers.

    ... Don't worry... It's under warranty.

    --- Renegade v1.35/DOS
    * Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.rgbbs.info (21:1/144)
  • From AKAcastor@21:1/162 to Deon on Sun Apr 7 20:11:10 2024
    There are. TQWnet mail transfers with the main hub are
    over zerotier, some nodes poll and collect mail over TLS
    and tor.

    Very cool there's this kind of diversity of connection types for FTN mail transfer.

    While Videotex is Mode 7 graphics, 40x25, I've actually
    implemented "AnsiTex", the same user interface but with
    ANSI graphics 80x25. My current BBS (Synchronet) is
    using an AnsiTex shell that I've been dabling with over
    the years. It too is half baked (page,navigation and
    message reading works OK, but I need to write a frame
    and msg editor to make useful).

    Great project!


    Chris/akacastor

    --- Maximus 3.01
    * Origin: Another Millennium - Canada - another.tel (21:1/162)
  • From Al@21:4/106 to Exodus on Sun Apr 7 21:08:04 2024
    By all means, test away. We should (theoretically) be able to send netmail >> back and forth with EMSI/Telnet as is.

    It works ... was doing this 20 years ago on telnet. Zmodem just craps out on most mailers.

    Yep, BBBS support Zmodem but I think it prefers Hydra if it's supported by the remote mailer.

    I have not been able to use EMSI/Telnet with FD or MBSE but I have has success with other mailers.

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-6
    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)
  • From Avon@21:1/101 to All on Tue Apr 9 08:52:13 2024
    On 07 Apr 2024 at 04:17p, Avon pondered and said...

    More playing this afternoon, tried to pair back the Galactic Dynasty and For Honour reports into one post each vs two. Have also altered the Subject text for most stats reports posted as echomail and (hopefully) bunched them up so they post in a logical order - interbbs, net1, net4
    ... time will tell, we'll see overnight what happens.

    these games reports seems to be posting OK to the stats echo along with the NET 4 stats. I can see an error in the NET 4 BinkP traffic (it's posting content twice)... also will need to separate out fileboxes further as the NET 4 data is now getting caught up in the NET 1 queue reports.. Gah.

    Next steps .. tidy up the above issues, then looking to add NET 3 data to the FSX_STA echo based on what Deon is sending me each night for the website.

    Also looking to start sending inter-bbs game stats info to fsxnet.nz as well.

    Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From Avon@21:1/101 to All on Tue Apr 9 20:39:41 2024
    On 09 Apr 2024 at 08:52a, Avon pondered and said...

    these games reports seems to be posting OK to the stats echo along with the NET 4 stats. I can see an error in the NET 4 BinkP traffic (it's posting content twice)... also will need to separate out fileboxes

    double posting of NET 4 BinkP traffic should be fixed in next update in FSX_STA

    Next steps .. tidy up the above issues, then looking to add NET 3 data
    to the FSX_STA echo based on what Deon is sending me each night for the website.

    Hopefully this will also start to post to FSX_STA in the next 24 hours.

    posting content twice)... also will need to separate out fileboxes
    further as the NET 4 data is now getting caught up in the NET 1 queue reports.. Gah.

    Not done, a pain to sort but will look to do so.

    Also looking to start sending inter-bbs game stats info to fsxnet.nz as well.

    Will likely aim to tackle this in the coming 24/48 hours, next cab off the rack.

    Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From Roon@21:4/148 to AKAcastor on Wed Apr 10 21:59:39 2024
    Hello AKAcastor,

    07 Apr 24 15:28, you wrote to Al:

    Binkd is the main protocol used these days but ftp or
    even EMSI with a modem (if you have one). Some mailers
    do EMSI over telnet. Mine does but these are few and far
    between. I think net 3 might have such a thing.

    I am interested in testing EMSI over telnet (and over modem), I have BinkleyTerm setup but haven't actually run mail through it. One of
    these days I might try connecting to your system with mail if you
    don't mind me testing with your system.

    you can check my xenia/2 as well on the bbs's port. bbs.roonbbs.hu:1212

    I am connected at net 1, 3 and 4 for example. I forget
    now why I did that but that is the way things have come
    together.

    Do you send/receive mail through multiple nets? Any trouble with
    dupes?

    afaik, the dupe checker solves it pretty good, based on msgids and seen-bys

    Regards,
    --
    dp

    telnet://bbs.roonsbbs.hu:1212 <<=-

    ... Uptime: 12d 6h 29m 14s
    --- GoldED/2 1.1.4.7+EMX
    * Origin: Roon's BBS - Budapest, HUNGARY (21:4/148)