• Houskeeping Posts

    From Avon@21:1/101 to All on Mon Jan 9 21:09:06 2023
    Dan is doing some tidying up of NET 4 at preset and tomorrow I'll post my usual housekeeping post/update to fsx_gen ... but it occurs to me perhaps I should be x-posting it to fsx_net also so that as nodes are added/removed there's a track of this recorded in this echo. Which kinda seems like the right place to also note such stuff. Thoughts?

    I think it's still a good move to post updates to fsx_gen still also as that's where it's been established such updates are shared with the network.

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  • From deon@21:2/116 to Avon on Mon Jan 9 19:33:17 2023
    Re: Houskeeping Posts
    By: Avon to All on Mon Jan 09 2023 09:09 pm

    Howdy,

    usual housekeeping post/update to fsx_gen ... but it occurs to me perhaps I should be x-posting it to fsx_net also so that as nodes are added/removed there's a track of this recorded in this echo. Which kinda seems like the right place to also note such stuff. Thoughts?

    It makes sense to me that fsx_net is the place to talk about the network.

    I think it's still a good move to post updates to fsx_gen still also as that's where it's been established such updates are shared with the network.

    Does it need to be in two places tho?


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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to deon on Mon Jan 9 22:39:35 2023
    On 09 Jan 2023 at 07:33p, deon pondered and said...

    Howdy,

    hey ;-)

    It makes sense to me that fsx_net is the place to talk about the network.

    I think it's still a good move to post updates to fsx_gen still also as that's where it's been established such updates are shared with the net

    Does it need to be in two places tho?

    I guess i have just been habitually doing those posts there from the days of just one echomail area, but yeah i take your point. If it were just posted here Id need to let folks know as I am not convinced all nodes are linked to
    this echo.. so I do worry that the reach of such posts may not be as great if only posted here.

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  • From deon@21:2/116 to Avon on Mon Jan 9 21:14:01 2023
    Re: Re: Houskeeping Posts
    By: Avon to deon on Mon Jan 09 2023 10:39 pm

    Howdy,

    just one echomail area, but yeah i take your point. If it were just posted here Id need to let folks know as I am not convinced all nodes are linked to this echo.. so I do worry that the reach of such posts may not be as great if only posted here.

    Well, all you can do is say to everyone, "check you are linked to FSX_NET" to make sure you get updates on the network.

    For those who dont check (because they didnt read the message), they are probably dormanent nodes anyway with the systems on autopilot. When they come back from being away, there is no guarantee that they would read it wherever it was posted ...

    It gives me an idea for clrghouz - I should be able to give you a view of who is subscribed to each echo. I already can tell (it wont be 100% accurate unless I get all hubs feeding clrghouz) which echos a node is subscribed to...

    This is agency: https://clrghouz.bbs.dege.au/system/view/11


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  • From Oli@21:3/102 to deon on Mon Jan 9 13:09:57 2023
    deon wrote (2023-01-09):

    I think it's still a good move to post updates to fsx_gen still also
    as that's where it's been established such updates are shared with
    the network.

    Does it need to be in two places tho?

    Do we want the multiple "Welcome Sysop Z in FsxNet!" in FSX_NET? Or do the guys who post welcome messages not read FSX_NET?

    Or should we educate users to cross-reply welcome messages to FSX_GEN?



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  • From Ogg@21:4/106.21 to deon on Mon Jan 9 08:10:00 2023
    Hello deon!

    This is agency: https://clrghouz.bbs.dege.au/system/view/11

    An interesting presentation on echo availability and activity.
    Nice job.


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  • From Gamgee@21:2/138 to deon on Mon Jan 9 07:54:00 2023
    deon wrote to Avon <=-

    Re: Houskeeping Posts
    By: Avon to All on Mon Jan 09 2023 09:09 pm

    Howdy,

    usual housekeeping post/update to fsx_gen ... but it occurs to me perhaps I should be x-posting it to fsx_net also so that as nodes are added/removed there's a track of this recorded in this echo. Which kinda seems like the right place to also note such stuff. Thoughts?

    It makes sense to me that fsx_net is the place to talk about the
    network.

    Agreed. I don't think they need to be in fsx_gen, which is already "overcrowded".

    I think it's still a good move to post updates to fsx_gen still also as that's where it's been established such updates are shared with the network.

    Does it need to be in two places tho?

    No, in my opinion.



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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to deon on Wed Jan 11 10:24:55 2023
    On 09 Jan 2023 at 09:14p, deon pondered and said...

    Well, all you can do is say to everyone, "check you are linked to
    FSX_NET" to make sure you get updates on the network.

    yes and no, I could opt to make some echos mandatory and ask all HUBs to link nodes to them so that certain key messages do at least make it to nodes vs the hit and miss of will they/have they opted to sub the echomail area or not?

    For those who dont check (because they didnt read the message), they are probably dormanent nodes anyway with the systems on autopilot. When they come back from being away, there is no guarantee that they would read it wherever it was posted ...

    yes agreed, this can be the case if away for a week or a month or more.

    It gives me an idea for clrghouz - I should be able to give you a view
    of who is subscribed to each echo. I already can tell (it wont be 100% accurate unless I get all hubs feeding clrghouz) which echos a node is subscribed to...
    This is agency: https://clrghouz.bbs.dege.au/system/view/11

    thanks will take a look now, I think such a report would be very helpful.

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Gamgee on Wed Jan 11 10:29:07 2023
    On 09 Jan 2023 at 07:54a, Gamgee pondered and said...

    Agreed. I don't think they need to be in fsx_gen, which is already "overcrowded".

    I don't think fsx_gen is overcrowded, when you say that what do you mean?

    Does it need to be in two places tho?

    No, in my opinion.

    Noted, I'm leaning towards both still or at least fsx_gen as has been done in the past.

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  • From deon@21:2/116 to Avon on Wed Jan 11 08:42:56 2023
    Re: Re: Houskeeping Posts
    By: Avon to deon on Wed Jan 11 2023 10:24 am

    Well, all you can do is say to everyone, "check you are linked to FSX_NET" to make sure you get updates on the network.

    yes and no, I could opt to make some echos mandatory and ask all HUBs to link nodes to them so that certain key messages do at least make it to nodes vs the hit and miss of will they/have they opted to sub the echomail area or not?

    Yes and no too right.

    Well you can do that, but if their tosser doesnt have the area defined - and is not configured to create echo's then those mails only go into the badarea (or fill up their inbound with bad packets).

    Folks here are adults (well some of us are), so they dont need to spoon fed. :)

    If you wanted to make sure that folks new network information was in FSX_NET, a regulard post (say monthly) to the FSX_GEN (and others?) the summary of the echoareas in FSX.



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  • From Gamgee@21:2/138 to Avon on Tue Jan 10 19:04:00 2023
    Avon wrote to Gamgee <=-

    On 09 Jan 2023 at 07:54a, Gamgee pondered and said...

    Agreed. I don't think they need to be in fsx_gen, which is already "overcrowded".

    I don't think fsx_gen is overcrowded, when you say that what do
    you mean?

    Well, just that it's already the "catch-all" area, which I think gets
    more traffic than any other area.

    > de> Does it need to be in two places tho?

    No, in my opinion.

    Noted, I'm leaning towards both still or at least fsx_gen as has
    been done in the past.

    Okay, it's not a huge deal either way. Just seems to me that the "housekeeping" posts are directly related to network/ops and that
    therefore the fsx_net area is a good fit.



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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Gamgee on Thu Jan 12 10:43:32 2023
    On 10 Jan 2023 at 07:04p, Gamgee pondered and said...

    I don't think fsx_gen is overcrowded, when you say that what do
    you mean?

    Well, just that it's already the "catch-all" area, which I think gets more traffic than any other area.

    ok thanks.

    Noted, I'm leaning towards both still or at least fsx_gen as has
    been done in the past.

    Okay, it's not a huge deal either way. Just seems to me that the "housekeeping" posts are directly related to network/ops and that therefore the fsx_net area is a good fit.

    Yeah I can also see that too. Thanks for the comments.

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to deon on Thu Jan 12 10:45:43 2023
    On 11 Jan 2023 at 08:42a, deon pondered and said...

    Yes and no too right.

    Well you can do that, but if their tosser doesnt have the area defined - and is not configured to create echo's then those mails only go into the badarea (or fill up their inbound with bad packets).

    Yes I can understand how that can/could happen.

    Folks here are adults (well some of us are), so they dont need to spoon fed. :)

    Spoon fed?

    If you wanted to make sure that folks new network information was in FSX_NET, a regulard post (say monthly) to the FSX_GEN (and others?) the summary of the echoareas in FSX.

    'was in' or 'was seen' in fsx_net ?

    Not sure how many bot posts I want to do outside of fsx_bot

    Thanks for the thoughts, good to riff about this stuff.

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  • From Nigel Reed@nospam@nospam.com to Avon on Sun Jan 15 04:18:24 2023
    On Mon, 9 Jan 2023 21:09:06 +1300
    "Avon" <avon@21:1/101> wrote:

    Dan is doing some tidying up of NET 4 at preset and tomorrow I'll
    post my usual housekeeping post/update to fsx_gen ... but it occurs
    to me perhaps I should be x-posting it to fsx_net also so that as
    nodes are added/removed there's a track of this recorded in this
    echo. Which kinda seems like the right place to also note such stuff. Thoughts?

    If you only post network updates to fsx_gen then it's most likely I
    will not read them. I generally skim the group and will read the
    housekeeping posts if I see them, so unless you make it send out beyond
    any of the dross, it's not getting seen.

    Now post in fsx_net and there's every chance it'll be seen because, I
    thought, that's where you were going to post network updates. If not,
    there's no point in it.
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