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    From Avon@21:1/101 to All on Sun Jan 22 10:59:13 2023
    Hi all

    Just a query for those hooked into the 21:1/10 Usenet gateway.

    Does anyone experience issues of stuff they post on their BBS to a newsgroup coming back to them via the gateway as a new message a few hours later?

    So you end up with two messages of the same content, one being your original post out via the gateway to the newsgroup and the second being a copy of the post coming back into your BBS from the gateway.

    This should not be happening as own messages should be swatted down by the gateway software but I have a report it's not working and want to check if others have this issue also via 21:1/10 gate?

    Thanks!

    Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to All on Sun Jan 22 20:57:05 2023
    On 22 Jan 2023 at 10:59a, Avon pondered and said...

    Does anyone experience issues of stuff they post on their BBS to a newsgroup coming back to them via the gateway as a new message a few
    hours later?

    Hmm, looks like I did find an issue and *think* I may have fixed it now, but for those of you who do use the Usenet gateway I'd be interested to hear if you a) were having probs with dupe posts of your content coming back into your feed from the gate and b) if that's now stopped after my config tweak.

    Thanks!

    Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From Oli@21:3/102 to Avon on Sun Jan 22 12:27:53 2023
    Avon wrote (2023-01-22):

    Hi all

    Just a query for those hooked into the 21:1/10 Usenet gateway.

    Does anyone experience issues of stuff they post on their BBS to a newsgroup coming back to them via the gateway as a new message a few
    hours later?

    This should not be happening as own messages should be swatted down by
    the gateway software but I have a report it's not working and want to
    check if others have this issue also via 21:1/10 gate?

    Which gateway software are you using?


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  • From Blue White@21:4/134 to Avon on Sun Jan 22 10:17:44 2023
    Avon wrote to All <=-

    Hmm, looks like I did find an issue and *think* I may have fixed it
    now, but for those of you who do use the Usenet gateway I'd be
    interested to hear if you a) were having probs with dupe posts of your content coming back into your feed from the gate and b) if that's now stopped after my config tweak.

    Avon,
    I was having the issue. I will keep an eye on it and let you know if it
    seems to have disappeared. Thanks!


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  • From tenser@21:1/101 to Avon on Mon Jan 23 08:15:31 2023
    On 22 Jan 2023 at 08:57p, Avon pondered and said...

    Hmm, looks like I did find an issue and *think* I may have fixed it now, but for those of you who do use the Usenet gateway I'd be interested to hear if you a) were having probs with dupe posts of your content coming back into your feed from the gate and b) if that's now stopped after my config tweak.

    There's a USENET gateway? Tell me more....

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From Avon@21:1/101 to tenser on Mon Jan 23 11:40:19 2023
    On 23 Jan 2023 at 08:15a, tenser pondered and said...

    There's a USENET gateway? Tell me more....

    Have a look in the text file in the infopack :)

    Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From tenser@21:1/101 to Avon on Tue Jan 24 02:04:48 2023
    On 23 Jan 2023 at 11:40a, Avon pondered and said...

    On 23 Jan 2023 at 08:15a, tenser pondered and said...

    There's a USENET gateway? Tell me more....

    Have a look in the text file in the infopack :)

    I did. It appears this only gates USENET newsgroups
    into FTN; I'd be very interested in picking up a feed
    of FSX groups via NNTP.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From DustCouncil@21:1/227 to Avon on Mon Jan 23 20:28:14 2023
    Just a query for those hooked into the 21:1/10 Usenet gateway.

    Does anyone experience issues of stuff they post on their BBS to a newsgroup coming back to them via the gateway as a new message a few
    hours later?

    On my Mystic system, a post to alt.test will show as new immediately as I post (within a second). It will not, however, reappear hours later as new as if it is somehow being copied back to me from the gateway as a new message.

    I've done this test twice on alt.test leaving 24 hours before checking back with a newscan.

    Hope this helps. Honestly I've had no problems of any kind with the Usenet gateway.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Shipwrecks & Shibboleths [San Francisco, CA - USA] (21:1/227)
  • From ogg@21:2/147 to DustCouncil on Mon Jan 23 15:11:38 2023
    On 23 Jan 2023, DustCouncil said the following...

    Just a query for those hooked into the 21:1/10 Usenet gateway.

    Does anyone experience issues of stuff they post on their BBS to a newsgroup coming back to them via the gateway as a new message a few hours later?

    On my Mystic system, a post to alt.test will show as new immediately as
    I post (within a second). It will not, however, reappear hours later as new as if it is somehow being copied back to me from the gateway as a
    new message.

    I've done this test twice on alt.test leaving 24 hours before checking back with a newscan.

    Hope this helps. Honestly I've had no problems of any kind with the Usenet gateway.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/12/24 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Shipwrecks & Shibboleths [San Francisco, CA - USA] (21:1/227)

    I'm not seeing any issues as well. All is good.

    ogg
    Sysop, Altair IV BBS
    altairiv.ddns.net:2323

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  • From Al@21:4/106.2 to tenser on Mon Jan 23 13:56:43 2023
    Hello tenser,

    Have a look in the text file in the infopack :)

    I did. It appears this only gates USENET newsgroups
    into FTN; I'd be very interested in picking up a feed
    of FSX groups via NNTP.

    You can do this from a Synchronet BBS that is running the nntp server. fsxNet as well as whatever FTNs are available there.

    End of the Line is one Synchronet BBS that is running an nntp server (I believe).

    You would need to log in and create an account on one of those BBSs as usual to be able to write messages. Some of those BBSs may allow anyone to read but posting requires a login.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From tenser@21:1/101 to Al on Tue Jan 24 11:51:01 2023
    On 23 Jan 2023 at 01:56p, Al pondered and said...

    You can do this from a Synchronet BBS that is running the nntp server. fsxNet as well as whatever FTNs are available there.

    End of the Line is one Synchronet BBS that is running an nntp server (I believe).

    You would need to log in and create an account on one of those BBSs as usual to be able to write messages. Some of those BBSs may allow anyone
    to read but posting requires a login.

    Ttyl :-),

    Thanks, Al, that sounds useful. I wonder how hard it would be
    to peer with my existing NNTP setup?

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From Al@21:4/106 to tenser on Mon Jan 23 15:04:58 2023
    You would need to log in and create an account on one of those BBSs as
    usual to be able to write messages. Some of those BBSs may allow anyone
    to read but posting requires a login.

    Thanks, Al, that sounds useful. I wonder how hard it would be
    to peer with my existing NNTP setup?

    I have not done this myself so I don't have details but there is a node getting his BBS feed of nets (including fido) by nntp and it seems to work.

    Nelgin is the sysop and End of the Line BBS and he could give you better details of how that could work.

    Any Synchronet BBS would work. I bring up End of the Line because Nelgin is active in the community and takes care of his BBS.

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-6
    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (21:4/106)
  • From Avon@21:1/101 to DustCouncil on Tue Jan 24 12:08:46 2023
    On 23 Jan 2023 at 08:28p, DustCouncil pondered and said...

    Does anyone experience issues of stuff they post on their BBS to a newsgroup coming back to them via the gateway as a new message a few hours later?

    On my Mystic system, a post to alt.test will show as new immediately as
    I post (within a second). It will not, however, reappear hours later as new as if it is somehow being copied back to me from the gateway as a
    new message.

    I've done this test twice on alt.test leaving 24 hours before checking back with a newscan.

    Hope this helps. Honestly I've had no problems of any kind with the Usenet gateway.

    It does, The system was sending things back and not picking up on that a message had originated from itself. I made a change and I think it's now fixed. I think :)

    Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From Avon@21:1/101 to ogg on Tue Jan 24 12:09:14 2023
    On 23 Jan 2023 at 03:11p, ogg pondered and said...

    I'm not seeing any issues as well. All is good.

    Phew, thanks for the confirmation and checking.

    Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From Avon@21:1/101 to tenser on Tue Jan 24 12:10:43 2023

    On 24 Jan 2023 at 11:51a, tenser pondered and said...

    Thanks, Al, that sounds useful. I wonder how hard it would be
    to peer with my existing NNTP setup?

    I could also offer it (I think) via Agency BBS with the Mystic NNTP server. I'd need to check as it's not something I have played with in some time.

    Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From Al@21:4/106 to Avon on Mon Jan 23 15:42:52 2023
    I could also offer it (I think) via Agency BBS with the Mystic NNTP server. I'd need to check as it's not something I have played with in some time.

    That would make a good test of Mystic's nntp service. I have never done that.

    I just had a peek at the nntp server setup in ./mystic -cfg. There is also an ssl port listed there although it is blank by default. Synchronet uses port 563 by default for the ssl port. It would be interesting to know how that works.

    BBBS can do this too, although it does it like it was 1995. No ssl and no utf8 support. BBBS can peer but it has no nntp server for users to access.

    I might be able to use ssl with the right command line, but still.. no server. Bummer.

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  • From tenser@21:1/101 to Avon on Wed Jan 25 04:23:12 2023
    On 24 Jan 2023 at 12:10p, Avon pondered and said...

    Thanks, Al, that sounds useful. I wonder how hard it would be
    to peer with my existing NNTP setup?

    I could also offer it (I think) via Agency BBS with the Mystic NNTP server. I'd need to check as it's not something I have played with in
    some time.

    I'd be interested in that if you have bandwidth to mess around
    with it.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin, New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)
  • From nugax@21:1/167 to tenser on Thu Mar 2 11:23:18 2023
    MSGID: 21:1/167 01F2B1AB
    PID: CyberBBS v1.0.10
    On 24 Jan 23 11:51:01, tenser wrote:
    On 23 Jan 2023 at 01:56p Al pondered and said...

    You can do this from a Synchronet BBS that is running the nntp server. fsxNet as well as whatever FTNs are available there.

    End of the Line is one Synchronet BBS that is running an nntp server (I believe).

    You would need to log in and create an account on one of those BBSs as usual to be able to write messages. Some of those BBSs may allow anyone to read but posting requires a login.

    Ttyl :-)

    Thanks Al that sounds useful. I wonder how hard it would be
    to peer with my existing NNTP setup?

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 (Linux/64)
    * Origin: Agency BBS | Dunedin New Zealand | agency.bbs.nz (21:1/101)


    I used to use NNTP and a iphone app to read/write netmail on both mystic
    and sbbs. Worked fine. Considering writing a NNTP server for cyberbbs
    at some point once i iron out regular echomail. I want to put in a smtp
    server as well so those are top of my list.

    -Nugax (cbbs)


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    * Origin: CyberBBS WHQ BBS | http://www.cyberbbs.com (21:1/167)