Hello all, just wondering if anybody does anything with "distributed
Anyway, if you have, or are, also participating with BOINC, I'd like to hear about it. It's one of those things that can make you feel like maybe you've done a little bit of good in advancing some scientific research. Kind of satisfying stuff.
I've basically been involved with BOINC projects on and off since BOINC started. In 2019, when I built my current desktop PC, I chose a fairly high-end consumer CPU and dedicated graphics card because I wanted to continue running BOINC projects. It can generate significant heat with your PC though, as it can push your PC to its limits. That's one reason
I don't run it all the time (plus, of course, it can push up your
electric bill).
StormTrooper wrote to Gamgee <=-
Anyway, if you have, or are, also participating with BOINC, I'd like to hear about it. It's one of those things that can make you feel like
maybe you've done a little bit of good in advancing some scientific research. Kind of satisfying stuff.
Can't say I know of BOINC at all... I used to run the DNETC
client once... haven't looked at that in years though.
StormTrooper wrote to Nightfox <=-
I've basically been involved with BOINC projects on and off since BOINC started. In 2019, when I built my current desktop PC, I chose a fairly high-end consumer CPU and dedicated graphics card because I wanted to continue running BOINC projects. It can generate significant heat with your PC though, as it can push your PC to its limits. That's one reason
I don't run it all the time (plus, of course, it can push up your
electric bill).
One of the reasons I liked the old DNETC client was you could
throttle it at will and assign all cores or part thereof meaning
you could manage the load reasonably well. They also had the best
looking stats pages ;)
I don't run it all the time (plus, of course, it can push up your electric bill).
Hello all, just wondering if anybody does anything with "distributed computing" projects. Specifically the "BOINC" project. It's designed
to let you contribute your computer's "wasted" CPU cycles for something beneficial. If you have any computers that are always on but not really doing all that much, they might be a good candidate for something like this. I've been doing the projects known as "Einstein" and "Universe" for a couple of years now, and maybe they've gotten some benefit from
it. In my case I have an Raspberry Pi 4 running for some random tasks like periodic dynamic DNS updates, idling in some IRC channels, sending me some automated reminder emails from cron jobs, and working on the BOINC projects. Most of these tasks run in TMUX windows/panes, so I can detach from them and they continue running until I re-attach and check/use them again. Very handy to just SSH back into the RPi and resume where I left off.
Anyway, if you have, or are, also participating with BOINC, I'd like to hear about it. It's one of those things that can make you feel like maybe you've done a little bit of good in advancing some scientific research. Kind of satisfying stuff.
As energy prices go up these wasted CPU cycles become quite expensive. My bbs is running on an old Xeon X5690 and I notice the energy draw if the CPU gets maxed out. I measured my server closet at about about 160 watts in total idling which is about 1 GBP per day in UK.
Our power prices are becoming quite hideous.. already up some 160% and expect ing more of the same. But I noticed some time back some of my
"higher performance" systems which were pretty long in the tooth were
quite power hungry... The OctoCore sabretooth system sucked about 140W by itself I think it was, and the quad XEONs weren't much better... I kinda down graded to Core2s after that... made a huge dent in the power bill.
boraxman wrote to Gamgee <=-
Hello all, just wondering if anybody does anything with "distributed computing" projects. Specifically the "BOINC" project. It's designed
to let you contribute your computer's "wasted" CPU cycles for something beneficial. If you have any computers that are always on but not really doing all that much, they might be a good candidate for something like this. I've been doing the projects known as "Einstein" and "Universe"
for a couple of years now, and maybe they've gotten some benefit from
it. In my case I have an Raspberry Pi 4 running for some random tasks like periodic dynamic DNS updates, idling in some IRC channels, sending
me some automated reminder emails from cron jobs, and working on the
BOINC projects. Most of these tasks run in TMUX windows/panes, so I can detach from them and they continue running until I re-attach and
check/use them again. Very handy to just SSH back into the RPi and
resume where I left off.
I did run seti@home a while back, as well as I think protein
folding.
IT's not quite true that it uses "wasted cycles" as it does max
out your CPU and GPU, leaving your computer running warm and
sucking juice. Being backgrounded tasks they won't interfere,
and for a raspberry pi it probably won't make much of a
difference in terms of use.
I'm questioning how much a single board computer could really
contribute, but I suppose it something.
Anyway, if you have, or are, also participating with BOINC, I'd like to hear about it. It's one of those things that can make you feel like
maybe you've done a little bit of good in advancing some scientific research. Kind of satisfying stuff.
It is good to contribute, but in the end I didn't like leaving my
computer on, especially in summer when BOINC would keep it
running warm. (This was a desktop PC).
I'm locked into a 3 year natural gas price, so that was sort of lucky planning. Not bad in that situation, but the electricity prices are going nuts. Hoping there is some type of energy price crash later this summer and I can find another electricity provider that is less in the fall.
It is indeed a small amount, but if there are 100,000 doing a small amount, you now have a pretty decent amount. Some folks run seriously powerful computers that are dedicated just for these tasks. I'm talking major high-end stuff.
I have several computers running 24x7x365 here. Do you not have air conditioning in your house? The computers do not affect the temperature of the house at all, which is always somewhere around 72-75 degrees F.
Spectre wrote to Gamgee <=-
It is indeed a small amount, but if there are 100,000 doing a small amount, you now have a pretty decent amount. Some folks run seriously powerful computers that are dedicated just for these tasks. I'm talking major high-end stuff.
I tried DNETC on the OctoCored AMD.. if I let it have its head...
all cores full pelt, the thing would reliably overheat, and prior
to overheating it was burning ~200W...
I have several computers running 24x7x365 here. Do you not have air conditioning in your house? The computers do not affect the temperature of the house at all, which is always somewhere around 72-75 degrees F.
I don't have any AC here.. I'm only running a core2 quad, a
sophos UTM 110 Atom dual core, and a thecus NAS, these reliably
lift the temperature of my lounge/kitchen area 3-4 degrees C over ambient...
One of the reasons I liked the old DNETC client was you could throttle it at will and assign all cores or part thereof meaning you could manage the load reasonably well. They also had the best looking stats pages ;)
pokeswithastick wrote to Nightfox <=-
On 16/07/2022 10:52 am Nightfox said...
I don't run it all the time (plus, of course, it can push up your
electric bill).
As energy prices go up these wasted CPU cycles become quite expensive.
My bbs is running on an old Xeon X5690 and I notice the energy draw if
the CPU gets maxed out. I measured my server closet at about about 160 watts in total idling which is about 1 GBP per day in UK.
I haven't used that client, but if it's anything like BOINC stuff, you
can configure it as to how much CPU/Mem it is allowed to use. Agreed
that letting it go maximum is not a good idea.
Wow, OK. I live in a hot climate and can't imagine not having AC...
Maybe only run some BOINC in the winter... ;-)
Same here. I was paying under 5 cents/kwh last summer. We are up
over 8 cents now, and I saw this fall it will be closing in on 9.5
cents - so almost double in one year.
I don't see any relief in the short to mid term... the expecations are of the problem getting worse before any long term improvement. Here it
appears to be driven by Global LNG pricing, that and the fact we've turned off perfectly functional coal power with no replacement anywhere near
ready to pick up the slack. A second of our idiocies is not ensuring
enough supply for local use before selling the rest on the open market.
It comes down to supply and demand. We reduced our supply and have a
high demand. Not a good combination, but is very correctible.
Ah, don't you love when a country has to pay "market prices" to use its OWN natural resources?
Our power prices are becoming quite hideous.. already up some 160% and expect ing more of the same. But I noticed some time back some of my "higher performance" systems which were pretty long in the tooth were quite power hungry... The OctoCore sabretooth system sucked about 140W by itself I think it was, and the quad XEONs weren't much better... I kinda down graded to Core2s after that... made a huge dent in the power bill.
Same here. I was paying under 5 cents/kwh last summer. We are up over 8 cents now
I'm locked into a 3 year natural gas price, so that was sort of lucky planning. No
ovider that is less in the fall.
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I see your 8 cents/kwh and raise to 16.
boraxman wrote to Weatherman <=-
Ah, don't you love when a country has to pay "market prices" to use its OWN natural resources?
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