The Millionaire wrote to All <=-
Music and movies have catchphrases. Do you remember some of them?
Music and movies have catchphrases. Do you remember some of them?
Music and movies have catchphrases. Do you remember some of them?
No. Absolutely not.
Gamgee wrote to The Millionaire <=-
Music and movies have catchphrases. Do you remember some of them?
No. Absolutely not.
Dr. What wrote to Gamgee <=-
Gamgee wrote to The Millionaire <=-
Music and movies have catchphrases. Do you remember some of them?
No. Absolutely not.
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think
it means.
No. Absolutely not.
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Music and movies have catchphrases. Do you remember some of them?
No. Absolutely not.
McDoob wrote to Gamgee <=-
Music and movies have catchphrases. Do you remember some of them?
No. Absolutely not.
"You know, I thought you were stupid, friend. But I
underestimated you; you're a total freakin' retard!" - Waterworld
Seems very apropos, and now you have one to try and remember for
the future. (o_-)
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"You know, I thought you were stupid, friend. But I
underestimated you; you're a total freakin' retard!" - Waterworld
Seems very apropos, and now you have one to try and remember for
the future. (o_-)
Why the personal attack? I was answering somebody else's question and all of a sudden you're doing this. Not appropriate, McNoob.
Your BBS is no longer reachable. Shouldn't it be de-listed from FSX?
McDoob wrote to Gamgee <=-
"You know, I thought you were stupid, friend. But I
underestimated you; you're a total freakin' retard!" - Waterworld
Seems very apropos, and now you have one to try and remember for
the future. (o_-)
Why the personal attack? I was answering somebody else's question and
all of a sudden you're doing this. Not appropriate, McNoob.
Why the accusation? I was contributing to the thread, instead of
trying to disrupt it, like yourself. Just because you like to
attack people doesn't mean everyone does. Not appropriate,
hobbit.
Your BBS is no longer reachable. Shouldn't it be de-listed from FSX?
Whatever you say, mister Echo Police. But, since my bbs *IS*
reachable (I am currently on it), you are once again wrong. It's
just not accessible for you. No trolls allowed, sorry not sorry.
It is NOT reachable, and before you bother claiming you've "blocked"
me (or my IP address), it isn't reachable from anywhere, as I've
checked.
You were NOT contributing, you were attacking me, on a post made nearly
a week ago. You contributed nothing, as always.
That's a lie. It is NOT reachable, and before you bother claiming
you've "blocked" me (or my IP address), it isn't reachable from
anywhere, as I've checked. If you're down, and done with your 3-month adventure as being a "sysop", let Avon know so you can be removed.
It looks like your DNS name may have expired. I can resolve sytes.net
and www.sytes.net but not your hostname.
If one knew the current IP address, one would have no problem at all logging in.
That is correct. I have simply to renew my DNS to bring it fully online. I
If one knew the current IP address, one would have no problem at all logging in.
And how often have you connected to somewhere by its IP address?
My system spends a fair amount of time trying to deliver your Fido mail
to an address that doesn't resolve.
Can I put your setup here on "poll only" ?
I have an alternate DNS address already set up. Can I give you that in Netma instead?
Whatever you say, man. You can say the sky is neon green, it doesn't make it true. And what have you contributed? Oh, right...nothing...
... As a matter of fact, it IS a banana in my pocket!
It looks like your DNS name may have expired. I can resolve sytes.net and www.sytes.net but not your hostname.
That is correct. I have simply to renew my DNS to bring it fully online. I j like how much it annoys certain trolls, so I figured I'd leave it that way f a day or two. Not to mention, if certain trolls are trying to gain access, i probably safer.
If one knew the current IP address, one would have no problem at all logging in.
Re: Re: BBS Not Reachable
By: McDoob to Warpslide on Tue May 10 2022 06:22 pm
If one knew the current IP address, one would have no problem at all logging in.
And how often have you connected to somewhere by its IP address?
Nightfox
"You know, I thought you were stupid, friend. But I underestimated you; you're a total freakin' retard!" - Waterworl
Seems very apropos, and now you have one to try and remember for the future. (o_-)
Why the personal attack? I was answering somebody else's question an all of a sudden you're doing this. Not appropriate, McNoob.
Why the accusation? I was contributing to the thread, instead of trying
to disrupt it, like yourself. Just because you like to attack people doesn't mean everyone does. Not appropriate, hobbit.
And this wasn't me telling TM what to (or not to) post, either.
At most, it's a suggestion, but really it was just a comment on another's suggestion. Wildly different than some of the posts
made by those we are forced to defend TM against.
More word-smithing to try and deflect from your behavior, which is nothing but two-faced and hypocritical. It's very obvious to anyone reading this. If any of your little buddies had any balls, they'd chime in and agree with me. Oh, and I love your claim of "we are forced to defend TM against..." Hahahaha, what a joke.
them, do not adhere to the values of fsxNet and are unwanted in fsxNet.
them, do not adhere to the values of fsxNet and are unwanted in
fsxNet.
"Do not adhere to the values"/"Do not align to our values" is one of those phrases that sends chills down my spine.
them, do not adhere to the values of fsxNet and are unwanted in fsxNet.
"Do not adhere to the values"/"Do not align to our values" is one of
those phrases that sends chills down my spine.
them, do not adhere to the values of fsxNet and are unwanted in
fsxNet.
"Do not adhere to the values"/"Do not align to our values" is one of phrases that sends chills down my spine.
I appreciate that Avon is trying to keep things civil in this network. Would you rather there be a hands-off attitude and have anyone say what they want without pushback?
Nightfox
Please keep your echomail posts constructive, helpful and kind. I've
seen that you can do this. But if you find you can't then consider
finding another FTN that will be better suited to your needs. This is my final warning on this subject. Keep this up and I will de-list you from the network.
It is fair that you would give us both the same warning, and for my part, I sincerely apologize. As you say, I can indeed do better.
To everyone on fsxNet, I apologize as well. This is not how I wish to represent myself. I will take active measures on my end to ensure that this situation doesn't repeat itself...again...
I'm sorry. I let my own anger and negativity take control, and I let fsxNet (and everyone in it) down. If it happens again, I *deserve* to be de-listed.
McDoob
SysOp, PiBBS
... The only place I want data loss is on my credit card!
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Very well written apology there McDoob. But Gamgee on the other hand, that's a different story altogether. He won't apologize. He thinks he never does anything wrong.
them, do not adhere to the values of fsxNet and are unwanted in
fsxNet.
"Do not adhere to the values"/"Do not align to our values" is on phrases that sends chills down my spine.
I appreciate that Avon is trying to keep things civil in this network Would you rather there be a hands-off attitude and have anyone say wh they want without pushback?
What I mean is that this phrase is used by companies and institutions to fire/cancel/remove people because of their private views and morals. People have been dismissed for not subscribing to fringe ideas with this phrase used as justification.
Zealots are using seemingly innocent justifications to act in an awful manner.
I'm sure Avon is not using it in this manner, nevertheless seeing it
makes me wary.
It is fair that you would give us both the same warning, and for my
part, I sincerely apologize. As you say, I can indeed do better.
I'm sorry. I let my own anger and negativity take control, and I let fsxNet (and everyone in it) down. If it happens again, I *deserve* to be de-listed.
I don't profess to get to right all the time, nor that folks who have come and gone from fsxNet feel that I have acted fast enough or quick enough or seen the 'issue' as they have seen it etc. All I can do is my best and be mindful that we all see things differently and react in different ways
I think its less important whether you get it right or wrong, but you're the backstop and when its needed you say something. We can all get
stuff wrong, the important part is to own it, learn from it, and move
on. Most of us learn fastest from getting things wrong so no biggy
there. Have at it, and keep doing what you do...
them, do not adhere to the values of fsxNet and are unwanted in
fsxNet.
"Do not adhere to the values"/"Do not align to our values" is
one of those phrases that sends chills down my spine.
You need to think of this as a benevolent dictatorship... Avon is your friendly commissar at the top.
Hi there :)
Thanks for your clarification etc. where I am coming from relates to this..
[snip]
So my expectation (not unsurprisingly) is that folks operating on fsxNet have agreed to conduct themselves with the above goals and values in mind.. so when I wrote to a couple of members not adhering to them this
is where I was coming from.
It is clear in fsxnet.txt that the risks of not doing so include de-listing etc. but that's not my preferred route to take, rather my
hope is the community can self moderate (and does :)) and 99% of members active in the network are self aware enough to realize when they are straying way off (what I think are) pretty obvious behaviours / values. There is that 1-5% of the time where I feel I need to step in and say something, often someone else has beaten me to it. I'm grateful it's
seen to be a community/team concern.
I'm not in FTN networks to spend all my time moderating and/or pressing next to bypass stuff I don't want to read because it contains combative antisocial or unkind content that I didn't come here for. I think others here feel the same way :)
I don't profess to get to right all the time, nor that folks who have
come and gone from fsxNet feel that I have acted fast enough or quick enough or seen the 'issue' as they have seen it etc. All I can do is my best and be mindful that we all see things differently and react in different ways etc.
I am super mindful that the joys of echomail mean you can infer a ton of emotion / tone / sentiment into something written by the original poster that is simply not there. But I have also seen deliberate trolling as
well :(
Door nazi! ;)
Door nazi! ;)
Chuckle, puts me in mind of Samuel L Jackson in Iron Skies, after they
hit him with the Albiniser... :)
Spec
That is a movie that I've been wanting to watch, but when I start to watch it, get annoyed and wonder why I've wanted to watch it. Perhaps because Laibach contributed to the soundtrack.
I don't recall the soundtrack being offensive, but I don't recall
anything memorable about it either. You need to take the whole thing for what it is... but I found it to be good stuff, and amusing..
Spec
them, do not adhere to the values of fsxNet and are unwanted in fsxNet.
"Do not adhere to the values"/"Do not align to our values" is one of those phrases that sends chills down my spine.
"Do not adhere to the values"/"Do not align to our values" is one of th phrases that sends chills down my spine.
Wait until you submit a piece of technical documentation for publication and somebody tells you that your example scripts for setting up
databases don't adhere to the values of the documentation team or somesuch.
--
gopher://gopher.richardfalken.com/1/richardfalken
I don't want to delist anyone but I've made my views clear on this subject. My advice is if you're feeling in a combative mood it's best to walk away from fsxNet echos for a week or so before circling back when things have cooled off.
I appreciate that Avon is trying to keep things civil in this network. Would you rather there be a hands-off attitude and have anyone say whatI ended up disconnecting from Dovenet for the time being because I get sick of Jas Hurd. We should try to be civil if possible.
they want without pushback?
I appreciate that Avon is trying to keep things civil in this network. Would you rather there be a hands-off attitude and have anyone say what they want without pushback?
I ended up disconnecting from Dovenet for the time being because I get sick of Jas Hurd. We should try to be civil if possible.
I ended up disconnecting from Dovenet for the time being because I get sick of Jas Hurd. We should try to be civil if possible.
Are there published "rules" anywhere? BBSes always were more "common sense" rules, but that was back in the 90s...
What BBS software are you using? Synchronet has a twit list that you
can add names to if you don't want to see someone's posts on your BBS.
I agree he is often uncivil.. :/
2twisty wrote to Utopian Galt <=-
I ended up disconnecting from Dovenet for the time being because I get sick of Jas Hurd. We should try to be civil if possible.
Are there published "rules" anywhere? BBSes always were more "common sense" rules, but that was back in the 90s...
IMHO, people were always less likely to be rude on BBSes and networks
that were real names. Back before the Internet, people were not as paranoid about using their real name but, with Internet connectivity and various Identity crimes on the rise I can see why they don't want to now.
I had assumed that the BBS community would be immune from this foolishness, but I have recently been proved wrong. Yes, I'm talking
about you.
I had assumed that the BBS community would be immune from this foolishness, but I have recently been proved wrong. Yes, I'm talking
about you.
Yes, and no. There are published rules for FidoNet, but not for fsxNet.
https://www.fidonet.org/policy4.txt
For the most part its ignored... seriously... and maybe rightfully so. Theres still references to modems and zone mail hour and how a "satanic BBS" may be denied from obtaining a node number. Its really dated and often pedantic.
But when its necessary for someone to troll or to have the last word in some stupid argument, all of the sudden its treated like gospel and everyone becomes a lawyer. Especially with the phrases "Don't be excessively annoying" and "Don't allow yourself to be easily annoyed".
Sometimes, when someone harasses you and you put someone on ignore, it's best just to let it go. I know in the past people have gotten on my nerves, and sometimes they say things that still do, but you'll feel better for it if you let it go. Otherwise they're living in your head.
Still, I did notice on your BBS someone has been constantly harrassing
you with creating stupid accounts etc, and I don't know the extent of
it, but that kind of stalking / harassment is not on at all. anywhere.
While coming back to BBSing I've tried to give everyone a clean slate in my head, there are still some that drive me up the wall. It can be hard, but just ignore it.
I wasn't aware that you frequented PiBBS. My apologies that it hasn't
been updated recently. I am often busy with work this time of year.
Because of recent events there, I have asked my various hub controllers
to mark my node as private. Also, pibbs.sytes.net will be permanently deactivated soon. Please netmail me if you wish to update your phone
book!
I really am trying...
2twisty wrote to Utopian Galt <=-
Are there published "rules" anywhere? BBSes always were more "common sense" rules, but that was back in the 90s...
McDoob wrote to Blue White <=-
Back before the internet, people had to stand behind their words, or
get their butts whooped for them. Today, anyone who is online is a 'keyboard warrior'. Because 'you can't touch me behind my screen'.
I had assumed that the BBS community would be immune from this foolishness, but I have recently been proved wrong. Yes, I'm talking
about you.
apam wrote to McDoob <=-
Sometimes, when someone harasses you and you put someone on ignore,
it's best just to let it go. I know in the past people have gotten on
my nerves, and sometimes they say things that still do, but you'll feel better for it if you let it go. Otherwise they're living in your head.
Still, I did notice on your BBS someone has been constantly harrassing
you with creating stupid accounts etc, and I don't know the extent of
it, but that kind of stalking / harassment is not on at all. anywhere.
Again, nothing new to the BBS world. Back when I ran a BBS, I had to clean up at least 1 account that violated the rules every week or so.
... or as the WOPR would have put it:
Yes, and no. There are published rules for FidoNet, but not for fsxNet.
Yes, and no. There are published rules for FidoNet, but not for fsxNe
Re fsxNet there's fsxnet.txt ...
apam wrote to Dr. What <=-
That doesn't make it right though, we're supposed to be older and wiser now. Also not talking about random rule breakers.
Maybe it's part of the nostalgic trip?
Maybe it's part of the nostalgic trip?
I think it's more just human nature.
Ah, thank you. I probably should have thought of that. I know it's part
of the infopack, but is there also a web-link for that text file?
McDoob wrote to Dr. What <=-
I had mistakenly assumed that such a small community as today's
BBS-land would not have the same issue, given that we all share a
common interest. But as you say, people are people, and not everyone is going to get along.
Lesson learned.
What BBS software are you using? Synchronet has a twit list that youI have Synchronet and Winserver for qwknets.
can add names to if you don't want to see someone's posts on your BBS.
I agree he is often uncivil.. :/
But when its necessary for someone to troll or to have the last word inBeing on echomail networks is not an entitlement. However I self police myself. If drama is going to happen I do pull back.
some
stupid argument, all of the sudden its treated like gospel and everyone becomes a lawyer. Especially with the phrases "Don't be excessively annoying" and "Don't allow yourself to be easily annoyed".
Not you, Blue White, specifically. The person who that was directed at will know it's directed at him.
that were real names. Back before the Internet, people were not as paranoid about using their real name but, with Internet connectivity and various Identity crimes on the rise I can see why they don't want to now.
Adept wrote to Blue White <=-
As it is, I have no faith in my
past self to have had remotely sensible thoughts.
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