• Anxiety (Get Nervous)

    From The Millionaire@21:1/183 to All on Thu Mar 3 11:06:13 2022
    This was a song by Pat Benatar back in the 1980s. People like me face this problem on a daily basis. If you are one of those people, how do you deal with this serious illness?

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  • From Warpslide@21:3/110 to The Millionaire on Thu Mar 3 15:54:03 2022
    On 03 Mar 2022, The Millionaire said the following...

    This was a song by Pat Benatar back in the 1980s. People like me face
    this problem on a daily basis. If you are one of those people, how do
    you deal with this serious illness?

    CBD Oil Capsules, 30-50mg once or twice a day and limiting caffeine.

    I choose the ones that have zero THC in them so that I can actually work during the day instead of hitting up the vending machine every 20 or 30 minutes, plus CBD doesn't get you high so you're still ok to drive.

    These ones seem to do the trick, for me anyway: https://ocs.ca/products/cbd-50-capsules-dosecann https://ocs.ca/products/omega-cbd-soft-gels-noon-night

    (Other provinces carry the same/similar products, in case you're not in Ontario)

    I choose the capsules because I can't stand the smell/taste of actual weed.


    Jay

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  • From Blue White@21:4/134 to The Millionaire on Thu Mar 3 15:38:51 2022
    The Millionaire wrote to All <=-

    This was a song by Pat Benatar back in the 1980s. People like me face
    this problem on a daily basis. If you are one of those people, how do
    you deal with this serious illness?

    Medication, mindfullness, and keeping a regular schedule. Ironically, the pandemic actually helped mine a lot. We went on work-from-home and not being crammed together in the office has really, really helped. I am able to cope with it better at home because there are not always people dropping by my
    desk (or yelling over the walls) to interrupt my train of thought. I also
    have more control over my environment here, which helps.

    If we ever go back to working in the office on a regular basis, I may be in trouble.



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  • From boraxman@21:1/101 to Blue White on Fri Mar 4 19:32:17 2022
    Medication, mindfullness, and keeping a regular schedule. Ironically,
    the pandemic actually helped mine a lot. We went on work-from-home and not being crammed together in the office has really, really helped. I
    am able to cope with it better at home because there are not always
    people dropping by my desk (or yelling over the walls) to interrupt my train of thought. I also have more control over my environment here, which helps.

    If we ever go back to working in the office on a regular basis, I may be in trouble.


    The pandemic also helped me a little too, until the goverment started putting in all these mandates and tracking requirements, that was more stressful than any fear about sickness.

    But I tend to try and solve the problems that cause anxiety, examine what is causing it and try to remove the cause.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to The Millionaire on Fri Mar 4 20:06:00 2022
    On 03-03-22 11:06, The Millionaire wrote to All <=-

    This was a song by Pat Benatar back in the 1980s. People like me face
    this problem on a daily basis. If you are one of those people, how do
    you deal with this serious illness?


    Ecercise (I'm a competitive sprinter, so I do take it to an extreme ;) ) and keeping good company, as well as having routines and systems in place. Working on therapy, but covid restrictions are still getting in the way, despite easing.


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Warpslide on Fri Mar 4 20:09:00 2022
    On 03-03-22 15:54, Warpslide wrote to The Millionaire <=-

    I choose the ones that have zero THC in them so that I can actually
    work during the day instead of hitting up the vending machine every 20
    or 30 minutes, plus CBD doesn't get you high so you're still ok to
    drive.

    I tried CBD oil once. Seemed to make a marginal difference. Actually, the CBD oil had more effect on back stiffness than anxiety, which initially caught me by surprise.


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to boraxman on Fri Mar 4 20:14:00 2022
    On 03-04-22 19:32, boraxman wrote to Blue White <=-

    The pandemic also helped me a little too, until the goverment started putting in all these mandates and tracking requirements, that was more stressful than any fear about sickness.

    The pandemic made little difference, but in an unrelated development, I was more financially secure at the time, which helped. Purely coincdental though, we received a substantial inheritance, but now it's being invested in a new houde, and we'll have a mortgage soon.

    But I tend to try and solve the problems that cause anxiety, examine
    what is causing it and try to remove the cause.

    In my case, the causes are hard to pin down. I had started EMDR therapy, but covid keeps ghetting in the way, because it requires face to face contact in my case, and that hasn't been possible for most of the past 2 years.


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  • From boraxman@21:1/101 to Vk3jed on Fri Mar 4 23:20:20 2022
    The pandemic made little difference, but in an unrelated development, I was more financially secure at the time, which helped. Purely
    coincdental though, we received a substantial inheritance, but now it's being invested in a new houde, and we'll have a mortgage soon.


    At the time, I thought part of the reason for my calm was because something was going to happen which would stir things up, which would result in change. Realising that mother nature still had more power than man, than those who decide how our lives should be, was somehow comforting.

    In my case, the causes are hard to pin down. I had started EMDR
    therapy, but covid keeps ghetting in the way, because it requires face
    to face contact in my case, and that hasn't been possible for most of
    the past 2 years.


    They can be hard to pin down, but I find you shouldn't overthink. Sometimes a stray thought will enter my head, something vague, hard to pin down and I'll feel anxious. What I do, is ignore it, and concentrate on those things I *know* are pressing issues and problems. If I work on the problems I know, then the vague anxieties become less of a problem.

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  • From Blue White@21:4/134 to boraxman on Fri Mar 4 15:01:06 2022
    boraxman wrote to Blue White <=-

    The pandemic also helped me a little too, until the goverment started putting in all these mandates and tracking requirements, that was more stressful than any fear about sickness.

    I can see where that would not help for sure. Luckily, Kentucky (my US
    state) made suggestions but never got too authoritarian about it. I
    believe I would not have done so well in Australia or, as of late, in
    Canada.

    But I tend to try and solve the problems that cause anxiety, examine
    what is causing it and try to remove the cause.

    Yes, that helps, too. Some of my anxiety tended to start, or manefest, as physiological problems (like strange pains or feeling faint). If I was
    able to take a second and think about what was happening right before the symptom started, I could usually figure out what triggered it and make a "correction."



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  • From boraxman@21:1/101 to Blue White on Sat Mar 5 13:06:32 2022
    Yes, that helps, too. Some of my anxiety tended to start, or manefest,
    as physiological problems (like strange pains or feeling faint). If I
    was able to take a second and think about what was happening right
    before the symptom started, I could usually figure out what triggered it and make a "correction."


    Sometimes, (often during the early evening, often used to be Sundays) I would get this sudden sense of dread, or something wrong. I would have to check what was going on my in my life and remind myself that the feeling is not justified. Often it had to do with some vague, undefined worry about what I need to do for school/work.

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  • From seeLive@21:2/128 to The Millionaire on Sat Mar 5 12:55:42 2022
    On 03 Mar 2022, The Millionaire said the following...
    This was a song by Pat Benatar back in the 1980s. People like me face
    this problem on a daily basis. If you are one of those people, how do
    you deal with this serious illness?

    Very sorry to hear that. I know people who suffer with it and know it can be quite crippling... I understand that Cognitive Behavioural Therapy (CBT) can have a very positive impact and get people back to happier more productive lives... It basically teaches you to recognise and understand the cause(s) and to respond differently.... It has helped many people in the states, but would imagine it is available around the globe... good luck!


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to boraxman on Sun Mar 6 21:06:00 2022
    On 03-04-22 23:20, boraxman wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    At the time, I thought part of the reason for my calm was because something was going to happen which would stir things up, which would result in change. Realising that mother nature still had more power
    than man, than those who decide how our lives should be, was somehow comforting.

    Yeah the pandemic itself didn't really bother me much. The bigger issue was how to deal with the measures used to control the pandemic, with constantly changing rules. I did adapt fairly successfully, though at a cost of my ability to manage a lot of day to day things, which was always severely
    imited.

    In my case, the causes are hard to pin down. I had started EMDR
    therapy, but covid keeps ghetting in the way, because it requires face
    to face contact in my case, and that hasn't been possible for most of
    the past 2 years.


    They can be hard to pin down, but I find you shouldn't overthink. Sometimes a stray thought will enter my head, something vague, hard to
    pin down and I'll feel anxious. What I do, is ignore it, and
    concentrate on those things I *know* are pressing issues and problems.
    If I work on the problems I know, then the vague anxieties become less
    of a problem.

    Yeah, overthinking is an issue, but so is being blindsided by something unexpected, then finding there's this whole web of stuff behind it, that's messy to deal with (and mostly still poorly understood).



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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to The Millionaire on Fri Mar 4 07:45:00 2022
    The Millionaire wrote to All <=-

    This was a song by Pat Benatar back in the 1980s. People like me face
    this problem on a daily basis. If you are one of those people, how do
    you deal with this serious illness?

    Breathing. Meditation. Mindfulness. There's a technique called "Noting"
    where you meditate, and when distractions come along, step outside of it and calmly categorize the distration as Feeling or Thinking. By taking a step outside and labeling it, you let it fall by the wayside without focusing on it. The image one guided meditation uses is brushing a cloud off of a
    tabletop with a feather. That trains your mind to be able to analyze trains
    of thought, step back from them, and address them.

    Another technique is called RAIN. Recognize the emotion that you're feeling, Allow the experience to be there, just as it is, investigate with interest
    and care, and nurture with self-compassion.

    It helps to understand the cause of the experience, and lessens the emotion
    - as well as gives you a head start on managing the causes.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Blue White on Fri Mar 4 07:51:00 2022
    Blue White wrote to The Millionaire <=-

    Medication, mindfullness, and keeping a regular schedule. Ironically,
    the pandemic actually helped mine a lot. We went on work-from-home and not being crammed together in the office has really, really helped. I
    am able to cope with it better at home because there are not always
    people dropping by my desk (or yelling over the walls) to interrupt my train of thought. I also have more control over my environment here, which helps.

    2020, despite the issues, had its advantages. Both kids were home, so I was able to help them with planning and focus. We all took our lunches together outside on a porch and had some family time together. I've spent the last 2 years improving my home office to the point where going into the office
    feels unproductive.

    I got into the habit of morning meditation, something I couldn't do easily with a daily 45 minute commute, and that helped my state of mind greatly.

    We have multiple collaboration tools, and were able to manage having our
    usual meeting cadence without issue. We were pretty heavy into instant messaging when we were in the office, so that transitioned well to remote work.



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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Vk3jed on Fri Mar 4 07:53:00 2022
    Vk3jed wrote to Warpslide <=-

    I tried CBD oil once. Seemed to make a marginal difference. Actually, the CBD oil had more effect on back stiffness than anxiety, which initially caught me by surprise.

    I'm more old school. I've had good luck in the past with St. John's Wort for daytime mood elevation and Valerian root to help me get to sleep.

    Guided meditation where you relax your body area by area works like a charm for me to get to sleep. I just need to root around for my earbuds when I
    wake up!


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Vk3jed on Fri Mar 4 07:55:00 2022
    Vk3jed wrote to boraxman <=-

    The pandemic made little difference, but in an unrelated development, I was more financially secure at the time, which helped. Purely
    coincdental though, we received a substantial inheritance, but now it's being invested in a new houde, and we'll have a mortgage soon.

    I had a nest egg from a company I'd spent quite a bit of time with, so we
    were fortunate to know that if my wife or I (or both of us!) lost our jobs that we'd have some cushion.

    I'm immensely grateful for that. I know others who have had horrible experiences during the pandemic.


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  • From Warpslide@21:3/110 to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed Mar 9 10:23:53 2022
    On 04 Mar 2022, poindexter FORTRAN said the following...

    Breathing. Meditation. Mindfulness. There's a technique called "Noting" where you meditate, and when distractions come along, step outside of it and calmly categorize the distration as Feeling or Thinking.

    The image one guided meditation uses is brushing a cloud off of a
    tabletop with a feather. That trains your mind to be able to
    analyze trains of thought, step back from them, and address them

    This sounds like the approach Headspace uses: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjI9v-VYwZY

    While their app is can be quite pricey, they have lots of free videos on YouTube (like the one above) and even some sessions on Netflix if you already subscribe to that.


    Jay

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  • From Utopian Galt@21:4/108 to Poindexter Fortran on Wed Mar 9 18:10:07 2022
    BY: poindexter FORTRAN(21:4/122)


    I had a nest egg from a company I'd spent quite a bit of time with, so
    we
    were fortunate to know that if my wife or I (or both of us!) lost our
    jobs
    that we'd have some cushion.

    I'm immensely grateful for that. I know others who have had horrible experiences during the pandemic.
    I had a mix of saved money and the government aid during the 4 months I was unemployed where I was able to get dental surgery done and I was also able to survive one month being unemployed w/o a job or unemployment.


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  • From Blue White@21:4/134 to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Mar 10 15:54:07 2022
    poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Blue White <=-

    2020, despite the issues, had its advantages. Both kids were home, so I was able to help them with planning and focus. We all took our lunches together outside on a porch and had some family time together. I've
    spent the last 2 years improving my home office to the point where
    going into the office feels unproductive.

    I don't have any family living here at the moment, but I can say that my lunches have been better since I can plan to make something at lunch time instead of planning something to carry into the office. I also feel more unproductive on the few days I am in the office.

    We have multiple collaboration tools, and were able to manage having
    our usual meeting cadence without issue. We were pretty heavy into
    instant messaging when we were in the office, so that transitioned well
    to remote work.

    Yes, we had gotten into those also, and it really helped.



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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Mar 11 21:26:00 2022
    On 03-04-22 07:53, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    I'm more old school. I've had good luck in the past with St. John's
    Wort for daytime mood elevation and Valerian root to help me get to
    sleep.

    I've proven relatively resistant to herbal and similar interventions. I also seem highly resistant to sedation.

    Guided meditation where you relax your body area by area works like a charm for me to get to sleep. I just need to root around for my earbuds when I wake up!

    I'm somewhat hypersensitive and these sorts of things tend not to induce sleep.


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Mar 11 21:31:00 2022
    On 03-04-22 07:55, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    I had a nest egg from a company I'd spent quite a bit of time with, so
    we were fortunate to know that if my wife or I (or both of us!) lost
    our jobs that we'd have some cushion.

    Our income was pretty much unaffected by the pandemic or the job market. But the extra money certainly made things easier.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Warpslide on Thu Mar 10 06:37:00 2022
    Warpslide wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    This sounds like the approach Headspace uses: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjI9v-VYwZY

    While their app is can be quite pricey, they have lots of free videos
    on YouTube (like the one above) and even some sessions on Netflix if
    you already subscribe to that.

    You're exactly right, although it's a common visualization.


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