• Old Vs New Movies

    From The Millionaire@21:1/183 to All on Sun Feb 27 12:40:18 2022
    What's your perspective on this subject?

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  • From seeLive@21:2/128 to The Millionaire on Sun Feb 27 21:17:58 2022
    On 27 Feb 2022, The Millionaire said the following...
    What's your perspective on this subject?

    That's a tough one... they are generally so tightly culturally aligned to the times they are made, but of course, some few definitely stand the test of time and transcend that tight coupling, though...

    We just watched the old 'To catch a thief' with Cary Grant and Grace Kelly... it was wonderful to see a good old Hitchcock flick...

    And, then there's 'The Matrix' and 'Blade Runner', the truly epic 'Lord of the Rings' and all the other amazing modern movies...

    I think if you're open to it, you can see the good in all of them...


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to The Millionaire on Mon Feb 28 15:56:00 2022
    On 02-27-22 12:40, The Millionaire wrote to All <=-

    What's your perspective on this subject?


    Apples vs oranges - they're different, both good in their own way.


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  • From Arelor@21:2/138 to seeLive on Mon Feb 28 03:29:45 2022
    Re: Re: Old Vs New Movies
    By: seeLive to The Millionaire on Sun Feb 27 2022 09:17 pm

    And, then there's 'The Matrix' and 'Blade Runner', the truly epic 'Lord of t Rings' and all the other amazing modern movies...


    I don't want to be a bummer, but films from the 90s are already 30 to 20 years old. That does not count as modern anymore.

    I think Western producers have been reliably producing utter crap since 2016. There are some honorable exceptions, but as of late we are only getting films about licensed IPs, reboots, remakes, and not-so-thinly veiled propaganda. It is creative bankrupcy of the worst kind. Most of the few movies that are better than that are cheap popcorn fun rather than genuine great pieces.

    Asian entertainment is not following this trend, so they are one of the few bastions still holding.

    In any case, I am of the opinion that there are enough movies already made. There are more filmed hours than I could watch in my lifetime. A meteor could splat Hollywood flat as far as I care, because I would just keep enjoying old films from the silent era to the 60s anyway.


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  • From boraxman@21:1/101 to The Millionaire on Mon Feb 28 23:09:39 2022
    What's your perspective on this subject?


    There are good new movies?

    Why haven't I heard about them!

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  • From Arelor@21:2/138 to boraxman on Mon Feb 28 12:06:18 2022
    Re: Re: Old Vs New Movies
    By: boraxman to The Millionaire on Mon Feb 28 2022 11:09 pm

    What's your perspective on this subject?


    There are good new movies?

    Why haven't I heard about them!

    I think the most recent movie that is somehow good is Upgrade, in which a disabled guy gets a computer implant to overcome his disability and uses his new computer-powered abilities to try and find the people who killed his wife.

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  • From McDoob@21:4/135 to The Millionaire on Mon Feb 28 13:28:57 2022
    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4354756/

    'Nuff said.

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  • From Mike Dippel@21:4/175 to Arelor on Mon Feb 28 16:09:04 2022
    On 28 Feb 2022, Arelor said the following...
    Re: Re: Old Vs New Movies
    I think the most recent movie that is somehow good is Upgrade, in which a disabled guy gets a computer implant to overcome his disability and uses his new computer-powered abilities to try and find the people who killed his wife.

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    I'm checking it out now. Thanks for the suggestion.

    Mike Dippel

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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to Arelor on Tue Mar 1 09:31:55 2022
    Re: Re: Old Vs New Movies
    By: Arelor to seeLive on Mon Feb 28 2022 03:29 am

    I don't want to be a bummer, but films from the 90s are already 30 to 20 years old. That does not count as modern anymore.

    Noo!! They can't be more than 5-10 years old.. :P
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  • From seeLive@21:2/128 to McDoob on Tue Mar 1 21:25:39 2022
    On 28 Feb 2022, McDoob said the following...
    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4354756/

    'Nuff said.

    Cool... never heard of it, but will give it a watch... thanks, McDoob!


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  • From seeLive@21:2/128 to McDoob on Wed Mar 2 18:36:16 2022
    On 28 Feb 2022, McDoob said the following...
    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4354756/

    'Nuff said.

    ... and, 'The Queen's Gambit'... it was so well done that the chess world had a huge increase in membership because of it... destined to be a classic!


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  • From Nigel Reed@nospam@nospam.com to The Millionaire on Thu Mar 3 00:12:01 2022
    On Sun, 27 Feb 2022 12:40:18 -0800
    "The Millionaire" <the.millionaire@21:1/183> wrote:

    What's your perspective on this subject?


    I've tired of drawn out fight scenes, over exaggerated and obviously
    fake explosions, CGI graphics and the like.

    Now, some movies do call for stuff like that, The Matrix springs to
    mind, but it's like every action movie is the same these days.
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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to seeLive on Sat Mar 5 13:45:07 2022
    On 02 Mar 2022 at 06:36p, seeLive pondered and said...

    ... and, 'The Queen's Gambit'... it was so well done that the chess
    world had a huge increase in membership because of it... destined to be
    a classic!

    great movie, I have suggested this one to my father to watch, he's just got netflix... it's 2022 :)

    #funfact did folks know we have an echo for chatting about movies, tv etc.? :)

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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to Avon on Sat Mar 5 11:15:21 2022
    Re: Re: Old Vs New Movies
    By: Avon to seeLive on Sat Mar 05 2022 01:45 pm

    ... and, 'The Queen's Gambit'... it was so well done that the chess
    world had a huge increase in membership because of it... destined to
    be a classic!

    great movie, I have suggested this one to my father to watch, he's just got netflix... it's 2022 :)

    Movie? I thought The Queen's Gambit was a TV mini-series?

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  • From seeLive@21:2/128 to Avon on Sat Mar 5 14:28:21 2022
    On 05 Mar 2022, Avon said the following...
    great movie, I have suggested this one to my father to watch, he's just got netflix... it's 2022 :)

    yeah, same... It's truly a different world for our parents... that's why they need us to help them navigate it... ;-)

    #funfact did folks know we have an echo for chatting about movies, tv etc.? :)

    Sorry, I even carry that one on my BBS... :-/ I will try to help keep things where they belong... I can imagine things would get pretty messy if not... Thanks, for the friendly reminder!


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  • From hyjinx@21:1/126 to seeLive on Sat Mar 19 22:55:46 2022
    On 27 Feb 2022, The Millionaire said the following...
    What's your perspective on this subject?
    We just watched the old 'To catch a thief' with Cary Grant and Grace Kelly it was wonderful to see a good old Hitchcock flick...
    And, then there's 'The Matrix' and 'Blade Runner', the truly epic 'Lord of Rings' and all the other amazing modern movies...

    I seem to feel that with the exception of a couple of handfuls of movies, the last decent movies were released around the turn of the millenium. Don't get
    me wrong, some of them are perfectly palatable, in the same way that going
    for a McDonalds after a night out on the turps is not unpleasant at the time. But it's all very over-produced, for the money.

    For me, the movies of the 80s and 90s were often cheesy yes, but boy, did
    they have some great stories and genuinely heart warming moments too. I have
    a hard time thinking of better movies than Back to the Future, Indiana Jones, Star Wars IV-V, basically most of the Spielberg stuff and that sorta era. The Matrix part 1 was kinda like a final curtain call on truly original epics.

    Change my mind!

    Cheers,
    Al


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  • From Arelor@21:2/138 to hyjinx on Sun Mar 20 10:00:34 2022
    Re: Re: Old Vs New Movies
    By: hyjinx to seeLive on Sat Mar 19 2022 10:55 pm

    I seem to feel that with the exception of a couple of handfuls of movies, th last decent movies were released around the turn of the millenium. Don't get me wrong, some of them are perfectly palatable, in the same way that going for a McDonalds after a night out on the turps is not unpleasant at the time But it's all very over-produced, for the money.

    For me, the movies of the 80s and 90s were often cheesy yes, but boy, did they have some great stories and genuinely heart warming moments too. I have a hard time thinking of better movies than Back to the Future, Indiana Jones Star Wars IV-V, basically most of the Spielberg stuff and that sorta era. Th Matrix part 1 was kinda like a final curtain call on truly original epics.

    Change my mind!

    I think it was streaming and online distribution which crashed movie quality, because it changed the return of investment expectation for any movie that was not a total blockbuster and had a whole lot of megabucks thrown into its marketing only.

    THe summary of my opinion, which I have expressed everywhere in many Othernets, is that distributors incentivize producing lots of cheap movies instead of a few high quality movie in order to build catalogues to offer their customers.

    The year I consider the inflection point past which the movie engine started producing trash consistently is 2016. I can't pinpoint the reason but I have observed that movies I picked up from streaming services which were released after 2016 had astronomically low chances of being any good, with few honorable exceptions. Also, some old actors which use to pick great movies started to get desperate for some reason and started signing up for trash productions around that date (I am looking at you, Cage and Willis).

    The last film I would actively recommend as an awesome piece is Upgrade from 2018.


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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to The Millionaire on Tue Mar 22 11:16:00 2022
    What's your perspective on this subject?

    Oblique.


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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Nightfox on Sun Apr 17 11:05:23 2022
    On 05 Mar 2022 at 11:15a, Nightfox pondered and said...

    ... and, 'The Queen's Gambit'... it was so well done that the chess
    world had a huge increase in membership because of it... destined to
    be a classic!

    great movie, I have suggested this one to my father to watch, he's ju got netflix... it's 2022 :)

    Movie? I thought The Queen's Gambit was a TV mini-series?

    My bad, yep you're correct it's a mini series... I wonder if they will find enough will power and creativity to create a season 2..?

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to seeLive on Sun Apr 17 11:10:16 2022
    On 05 Mar 2022 at 02:28p, seeLive pondered and said...

    On 05 Mar 2022, Avon said the following...
    great movie, I have suggested this one to my father to watch, he's ju got netflix... it's 2022 :)

    yeah, same... It's truly a different world for our parents... that's why they need us to help them navigate it... ;-)

    I helped my Dad navigate Apple TV hardware and got him started on apps for Netflix, Disney + and Amazon Prime :)

    #funfact did folks know we have an echo for chatting about movies, tv etc.? :)

    Sorry, I even carry that one on my BBS... :-/ I will try to help keep things where they belong... I can imagine things would get pretty messy
    if not... Thanks, for the friendly reminder!

    No stress, I figured I'd mention it only in that the echo was set up for such bater but hey banter in echo is welcome ... but yeah give that one a go if you're able :)

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