It's Sunday and I wanted to sleep in a bit. My bedroom window faces
east, which means that the sun is way too bright at 8:00 a.m.
I figure that when we switch to DST, there is a chance that it won't be
so bright and I can sleep in a bit.
Florida has already passed legislation to stay on DST, but
it hasn't yet gone into effect. I wish they would do so
for a number of reasons. [...]
live in a golf cart community but I can't leave the gated area after sundown.
It's Sunday and I wanted to sleep in a bit. My bedroom window faces east, which means that the sun is way too bright at 8:00 a.m.
I figure that when we switch to DST, there is a chance that it won't be so bright and I can sleep in a bit.
Florida has already passed legislation to stay on DST, but
it hasn't yet gone into effect. I wish they would do so
for a number of reasons. [...]
The debate in NorthAmerica (at least the Ontario, Quebec, and
upper eastern States) ..is to stay on EDT. DST makes more
sense, since it would provide sunlight into the later afternoon
in the winter time.
live in a golf cart community but I can't leave the gated area after sundown.
Huh? Don't you have the freedom to come and go at ANY time?
Sounds like the strange community depicted in the 60's TV
series "The Prisoner".
It's Sunday and I wanted to sleep in a bit. My bedroom window faces east, which means
that the sun is way too bright at 8:00 a.m.
I figure that when we switch to DST, there is a chance that it won't be so bright and I
can sleep in a bit.
Florida has already passed legislation to stay on DST, but it hasn't yet gone into effect. I
wish they would do so for a number of reasons. I live in a golf cart community but I
can't leave the gated area after sundown. During the months of DST my wife and I can
go to church at 4:00 PM on a Saturday in our cart and then head to a local restaurant
without fear of being out after sundown.
In a nutshell, a chance for extra sleep and more chance for recreation in the evening.
Any thoughts?
Mike Dippel
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Mike Dippel wrote to All <=-
It's Sunday and I wanted to sleep in a bit. My bedroom window
faces east, which means that the sun is way too bright at 8:00
a.m.
I figure that when we switch to DST, there is a chance that it
won't be so bright and I can sleep in a bit.
Florida has already passed legislation to stay on DST, but it
hasn't yet gone into effect. I wish they would do so for a
number of reasons. I live in a golf cart community but I can't
leave the gated area after sundown. During the months of DST my
wife and I can go to church at 4:00 PM on a Saturday in our cart
and then head to a local restaurant without fear of being out
after sundown.
In a nutshell, a chance for extra sleep and more chance for
recreation in the evening.
Any thoughts?
On 02-20-22 10:09, Mike Dippel wrote to All <=-
It's Sunday and I wanted to sleep in a bit. My bedroom window faces
east, which means
that the sun is way too bright at 8:00 a.m.
I figure that when we switch to DST, there is a chance that it won't be
so bright and I
can sleep in a bit.
Florida has already passed legislation to stay on DST, but it hasn't
yet gone into effect. I
wish they would do so for a number of reasons. I live in a golf cart community but I
can't leave the gated area after sundown. During the months of DST my wife and I can
go to church at 4:00 PM on a Saturday in our cart and then head to a
local restaurant
without fear of being out after sundown.
In a nutshell, a chance for extra sleep and more chance for recreation
in the evening.
Mike Dippel wrote to All <=-
Florida has already passed legislation to stay on DST, but it hasn't
yet gone into effect. I wish they would do so for a number of reasons.
I live in a golf cart community but I can't leave the gated area after sundown. During the months of DST my wife and I can go to church at
4:00 PM on a Saturday in our cart and then head to a local restaurant without fear of being out after sundown.
In a nutshell, a chance for extra sleep and more chance for recreation
in the evening.
Any thoughts?
Staying on DST in the Winter is not going to make much of a difference. It will still get dark early.
It's Sunday and I wanted to sleep in a bit. My bedroom window faces east, which means that the sun is way too bright at 8:00 a.m.
Florida has already passed legislation to stay on DST, but it hasn't yet gone into effect. I wish they would do so for a number of reasons. I live
I love Daylight Savings Time. More sun for fun. Plain and simple. The days go faster too. :-P
Re: Daylight Savings Time
By: Mike Dippel to All on Sun Feb 20 2022 10:09 am
It's Sunday and I wanted to sleep in a bit. My bedroom window faces east,
which means that the sun is way too bright at 8:00 a.m.
Where do you live? In the US, daylight saving time starts on March 13.
Florida has already passed legislation to stay on DST, but it hasn't yet
gone into effect. I wish they would do so for a number of reasons. I live
I've heard Oregon has thought of doing that. I'd wonder if it would mess with
historical timekeeping at all though. If we stayed on DST, then that would mean the year we switch to DST and stay that way, records would show that year
as having one less hour (since we would skip ahead and not go back). If we were to stop changing the clocks, I thought it might be better to stay on standard time.
Nightfox
Avon wrote to Blue White <=-
Staying on DST in the Winter is not going to make much of a difference.
It will still get dark early.
Here I will soon move away from daylight savings time to standard time
as the clocks go back an hour I think in early April. The nights get longer quickly then.
skip ahead and not go back). If we were to stop changing the clocks, I thought it might be better to stay on standard time.
Mike Dippel wrote to Nightfox <=-
I live in the Tampa, FL area. I love DST so much that I wouldn't
want to eliminate it. Give me all the daylight I can get and I
will be a happy dude!
I live in the Tampa, FL area. I love DST so much that I wouldn't
want to eliminate it. Give me all the daylight I can get and I
will be a happy dude!
Whether or not DST is engaged has no bearing whatsoever on the amount of daylight available in a given day.
Nightfox wrote to The Millionaire <=-
There's still the same amount of sun during the day. I've heard a
saying where daylight saving time is like cutting a strip of blanket
from the top and sewing it to the bottom of the blanket and expecting
the blanket to be longer.
Nightfox wrote to The Millionaire <=-
There's still the same amount of sun during the day. I've heard a
saying where daylight saving time is like cutting a strip of blanket
from the top and sewing it to the bottom of the blanket and expecting
the blanket to be longer.
The whole purpose of Daylight "Saving" Time was to adjust our normal work hours to correspond to when the sun was up.
While Franklin proposed it way back when, it really didn't get pushed until companies like Ford created factories designed to take advantage of natural light (if it's sunny in the building, we don't need to pay for electric lights).
I live in the Tampa, FL area. I love DST so much that I wouldn't want to eliminate it. Give me all the daylight I can get and I
will be a happy dude!
Whether or not DST is engaged has no bearing whatsoever on the amount of daylight available in a given day.
I live in the Tampa, FL area. I love DST so much that I wouldn't want to eliminate it. Give me all the daylight I can get and I will be a happy dude!
I live in the Tampa, FL area. I love DST so much that I wouldn't
want to eliminate it. Give me all the daylight I can get and I
will be a happy dude!
Whether or not DST is engaged has no bearing whatsoever on the amount of
daylight available in a given day.
This. I believe someone else said it earlier:
It's comparable to taking an inch off the top of a blanket, adding it to the bottom, and expecting that blanket to be longer.
Sort of...and I get that...but here in Indiana I wish we would just go
DST and stay that way. Having an hour of daylight at the end of the blanket...er day...means more disc golf, more POTA ham radio
activations, more time sitting on the patio working on my tow tan.
On 02-23-22 09:31, Nightfox wrote to Mike Dippel <=-
I've heard Oregon has thought of doing that. I'd wonder if it would
mess with historical timekeeping at all though. If we stayed on DST,
then that would mean the year we switch to DST and stay that way,
records would show that year as having one less hour (since we would
skip ahead and not go back). If we were to stop changing the clocks, I thought it might be better to stay on standard time.
On 02-24-22 14:52, Brian Murrey wrote to McDoob <=-
Sort of...and I get that...but here in Indiana I wish we would just go
DST and stay that way. Having an hour of daylight at the end of the blanket...er day...means more disc golf, more POTA ham radio
activations, more time sitting on the patio working on my tow tan.
McDoob wrote to Brian Murrey <=-
I certainly agree that there should not be any twice-yearly time
changes, but I think which particular time isn't important. DST,
Standard, whatever. Just pick one, and stick with it! \(@_@)/
March 13, 2022. So DST is coming soon! :-)
Vk3jed wrote to Nightfox <=-
And besides, going further back in history, several _days_ don't exist, because of the switch from the Julian to Gregorian calendar. The exact number of days depends on where you're talking about - different
countries switched calendars in different years, with Russia being
among the last in the early 20th century.
Orbitman wrote to Mike Dippel <=-
Not a fan of the time change.
Pushing the clock ahead one hour does not give one more daylight. The hours of daylight remain the same. DST interrupts the natural cycle of things. Days are longer in the summer than winter. It's supposed to be that way.
I'm most likely in the minority here...but I know many who detest DST
as I do.
Orbitman wrote to Mike Dippel <=-
Not a fan of the time change.
Pushing the clock ahead one hour does not give one more daylight. The
hours of daylight remain the same. DST interrupts the natural cycle of
things. Days are longer in the summer than winter. It's supposed to be
that way.
I'm most likely in the minority here...but I know many who detest DST as
I do.
You are not the only one here who feels that way. Where I live, there seem
to be a lot of people who really don't realize that DST <> more daylight. They seem to think that if DST were to go away that the total amount of daylight would drop.
On 02-25-22 07:48, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I spoke to a woman who'd grown up in the Soviet Union, and she
mentioned that they celebrated "Old New Year" and "New New Year" where
she came from.
Old was for family and was a quiet affair, New was the celebratory, go
out and get drunk version. Although I think Vodka was involved with
both days.
On 02-27-22 09:21, Blue White wrote to Orbitman <=-
You are not the only one here who feels that way. Where I live, there seem to be a lot of people who really don't realize that DST <> more daylight. They seem to think that if DST were to go away that the total amount of daylight would drop.
Brian Murrey wrote to Blue White <=-
You are not the only one here who feels that way. Where I live, there seem
to be a lot of people who really don't realize that DST <> more daylight. They seem to think that if DST were to go away that the total amount of daylight would drop.
Not at all. I don't think anyone thinks that.
I would like to just pick one and keep it year round. 29 states in the
US already do that, Indiana hasn't yet.
Vk3jed wrote to Blue White <=-
On 02-27-22 09:21, Blue White wrote to Orbitman <=-
You are not the only one here who feels that way. Where I live, there seem to be a lot of people who really don't realize that DST <> more daylight. They seem to think that if DST were to go away that the total amount of daylight would drop.
Sure the amount of daylight won't change. The question is how _useful_ that daylight is. Changing the clock is one way to move more daylight hours to a more "useful" evening hour, during the longer summer days.
It's not the only way, we could simply alter our schedule year round to follow the sun, but that seems harder for many people (and industries) than changing clocks to approximate this.
You are not the only one here who feels that way. Where I live, ther seemYes, they do. I have met them.
to be a lot of people who really don't realize that DST <> more dayli They seem to think that if DST were to go away that the total amount daylight would drop.
Not at all. I don't think anyone thinks that.
I would like to just pick one and keep it year round. 29 states in th US already do that, Indiana hasn't yet.Indiana used to be one of the few states that did. Some idiots messed it up. I don't think that 29 states stay on one time year-round.
The Godfather wrote to Blue White <=-
Indiana used to be one of the few states that did. Some idiots messed it up. I don't think that 29 states stay on one time year-round.
I wish Indiana would stop daylight savings. It makes no sense here .. North and Southern Indiana are on CST, yet central Indiana is on EST.
It's stupid. It was great when we didn't have to worry about changing
the clocks. Arizona, which I lived for a couple years, was also incredible for that reason.
Live from Hamco Indiana ..
On 03-02-22 15:44, Blue White wrote to Vk3jed <=-
What makes it more useful is in the eye of the beholder. For me, it
moves daylight away from a useful hour (before 8am) to somewhere that
is not useful (after 8pm). Sunlight in the morning is more beneficial
to your seratonin levels. More sunlight in the afternoon/evening does nothing for it.
The original "idea" for DST was floated by Benjamin Franklin as a joke. When he was in France, the French liked sleeping in very late and not keeping regular hours, which made it difficult to meet with them. He joked that they should switch the clocks so the "lazy" French could be places on time.
Unfortunately, many years later, someone heard of his idea and missed
the joke.
When I used to visit Speedway for time trials every year, I loved that about my visit. It got dark when it was supposed to. They started observing DST and screwed everything up.
When I used to visit Speedway for time trials every year, I loved that
about my visit. It got dark when it was supposed to. They started
observing DST and screwed everything up.
Yeah and it makes zero sense. Both southern and Northern Indiana are now on CST, and yet the middle of the state (Indianapolis) is on EST. I mean we are literally one state. It's incredibly confusing.
Vk3jed wrote to Blue White <=-
You have a very good point. FOr me, the sunlight in the evening is
more useful. Morning sun is nice, but before about 6-6:30, it starts
to become a nuisance (I'm rarely asleep or even in bed by sunrise).
You are not the only one here who feels that way. Where I live, there seem to be a lot of people who really don't realize that DST <> more daylight. They seem to think that if DST were to go away that the total amount of daylight would drop.
Sure the amount of daylight won't change. The question is how _usefu that daylight is. Changing the clock is one way to move more dayligh hours to a more "useful" evening hour, during the longer summer days. It's not the only way, we could simply alter our schedule year round follow the sun, but that seems harder for many people (and industries than changing clocks to approximate this.
What makes it more useful is in the eye of the beholder. For me, it
moves daylight away from a useful hour (before 8am) to somewhere that is not useful (after 8pm). Sunlight in the morning is more beneficial to your seratonin levels. More sunlight in the afternoon/evening does nothing for it.
Orbitman wrote to Blue White <=-
Hence, upsetting the "natural rhythm" of things.
lol...this conversation could continue until the end of time and
nothing would change. There will be those who think DST serves no
purpose and those that think it does. Having more daylight at the end
of the day serves no purpose for me. As I work Mon-Fri, I do all my outdoor things on the weekend. I like to get an early start on mowing, etc. so having to wait until the sun is up enough to see is ridiculous.
It could. I am sure there are benefits in the Summer months for some purposes, but I don't think the people in this area who want it year-round have thought it through much. In December/January, there is not enough daylight, period, so trying to stay on DST isn't going to gain them much, and would make it stay dark really late in the morning.
Nightfox wrote to Blue White <=-
Re: Re: Daylight Savings Time
By: Blue White to Orbitman on Thu Mar 10 2022 03:57 pm
It could. I am sure there are benefits in the Summer months for some purposes, but I don't think the people in this area who want it year-round have thought it through much. In December/January, there is not enough daylight, period, so trying to stay on DST isn't going to gain them much, and would make it stay dark really late in the morning.
That's a good point. In the winter, on standard time, it gets
dark here around 4:30PM on the days when we have the shortest
sunlight, so if we were on DST year round, it would get dark
around 3:30PM.
That's a good point. In the winter, on standard time, it gets
dark here around 4:30PM on the days when we have the shortest sunlight, so if we were on DST year round, it would get dark
around 3:30PM.
I think that's backwards. If you were on DST year round, it would get dark at 5:30 instead of 4:30 (not at 3:30). The problem is that it
would still be dark in the morning until like 8:00AM or something.
On 03-04-22 07:57, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I cared more about evening sunlight when I was working in an office. Coming home in the summer months and having a little bit of daylight
left made me feel like I didn't spend all of my day cooped up inside, breathing circulated air.
On 03-10-22 16:42, Nightfox wrote to Blue White <=-
That's a good point. In the winter, on standard time, it gets dark
here around 4:30PM on the days when we have the shortest sunlight, so
if we were on DST year round, it would get dark around 3:30PM.
I would get to work at 8:30 am, and the sun would be peeking just
over the horizon. I would leave at about 5:00 pm, and it would already
be dark. That's *with* 'daylight savings mode' enabled...
That's a good point. In the winter, on standard time, it gets
dark here around 4:30PM on the days when we have the shortest
sunlight, so if we were on DST year round, it would get dark
around 3:30PM.
I think that's backwards. If you were on DST year round, it would get
dark at 5:30 instead of 4:30 (not at 3:30). The problem is that it
would still be dark in the morning until like 8:00AM or something.
That's a good point. In the winter, on standard time, it gets dark
here around 4:30PM on the days when we have the shortest sunlight,
so if we were on DST year round, it would get dark around 3:30PM.
Umm, I think you got that backwards. DST makes everything look an hour later on the clock, so it would get dark around 5:30pm in your example, not 3:30.
Personally, I have never understood the point of this silly tradition of changing our clocks twice a year. There's no savings; the amount of daylight is exactly the same. It might have made a bit of sense, especially to those who live a bit further south, when we were dependent on sunlight in order to see. But even then, it also makes sense to just get up at a different time, without actually changing the clock!
That's why I would always make sure I took a lunch and made a point of going for a drive, just so I could see daylight for a little bit. The days where I get too busy to take a lunch are always depressing.
That's when I found the joys of a tanning bed, not get actually get a
tan (I think that's impossible for someone as neon white as I am), but just enough to get a jolt of (artificial sunshine) which really helps
with the winter blahs. (5 minutes at a time once or twice per week).
Hmm. Interesting idea. I sometimes suffer from the winter blues myself. Perhaps I should get myself a sunlamp...
I noticed the other day that they're not there anymore. I'm not sure if their shady practices or covid that killed their business, but either
way I was happy to see they're gone.
On 03-11-22 09:17, Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Yeah, after I posted that, I realized it was backwards. I deleted the message from my BBS, but it looks like it had already sent.
That's a good point. In the winter, on standard time, it gets
dark here around 4:30PM on the days when we have the shortest
sunlight, so if we were on DST year round, it would get dark
around 3:30PM.
I think that's backwards. If you were on DST year round, it would get
dark at 5:30 instead of 4:30 (not at 3:30). The problem is that it
would still be dark in the morning until like 8:00AM or something.
Not a fan of the time change.
Pushing the clock ahead one hour does not give one more daylight. The hour of daylight remain the same. DST interrupts the natural cycle of things. D are longer in the summer than winter. It's supposed to be that way.
I'm most likely in the minority here...but I know many who detest DST as I
hyjinx wrote to Orbitman <=-
Oh I definitely detest DST. It can get lost! I'm so envious that the
USA is likely to be getting rid of it!
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