See subject for the key question.
I know it's popular for, ahem, 'files' but is it still utilised for conversational topics?
Mewcenary wrote to All <=-
Hey all,
See subject for the key question.
I know it's popular for, ahem, 'files' but is it still utilised
for conversational topics?
See subject for the key question.
I know it's popular for, ahem, 'files' but is it still utilised for conversational topics?
I had a quick browse via groups.google.com and it seemed to be about
99.9% noise to signal.
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Hey all,
See subject for the key question.
I know it's popular for, ahem, 'files' but is it still utilised for conversational topics?
I had a quick browse via groups.google.com and it seemed to be about 99.9% noise to signal.
I had a quick browse via groups.google.com and it seemed to be about
99.9% noise to signal.
Atreyu wrote to Mewcenary <=-
On 09 Feb 22 18:47:43, Mewcenary said the following to All:
See subject for the key question.
I know it's popular for, ahem, 'files' but is it still utilised for conversational topics?
I hub Usenet here... it is 99% dead except for politics... and Dr. Who.
I had a quick browse via groups.google.com and it seemed to be about
99.9% noise to signal.
I hub Usenet here... it is 99% dead except for politics... and Dr. Wh
I *think* the FIDO Raspberry Pi echo is gated from Usenet and is usually active.
As always, after the initial question is answered, threads tend
to continue on ad infinitum with random speculation and naval gazing.
That at least hasn't changed, even if much of it is uninteresting.
tenser wrote (2022-02-10):
As always, after the initial question is answered, threads tend
to continue on ad infinitum with random speculation and naval gazing. That at least hasn't changed, even if much of it is uninteresting.
Isn't this a property (feature or bug?) of many online conversations? Happens in web forums, chat groups, echomail ...
Most of the times I like it better than the Discourse-like aggressive auto-locking of threads or too much moderating.
I hub Usenet here... it is 99% dead except for politics... and Dr. Who
I *think* the FIDO Raspberry Pi echo is gated from Usenet and is usually active.
See subject for the key question.
Hey all,
See subject for the key question.
I know it's popular for, ahem, 'files' but is it still utilised for conversational topics?
Thanks to the likes of cleanfeed which is run by most, if not all
usenet servers, a lot of the spam is filtered out. I have 3 peers and
get very little on those groups I monitor.
People that spam should be put into dungeons and left in shackles for a year or
two. Spam ruins everything, spam by phone, by e-mail, usenet, a blight
on the world.
OMG! YES! \(@_@)/
It's pretty bad, when you need an ad-blocker on your browser, and on your email, AND on your phone!
Only an ad company would think spam was a good idea. And this is why
we're dealing with so much spam! Because adverts are money!
And you wonder why some of us are leaving Face(Ad)book behind?
McDoob
I get spam calls by phone, either automated, or some shoddy company, or
a scammer, and the phone company claims it can't do anything. I just don't believe it. They track and trace everyone now...
OMG! YES! \(@_@)/
It's pretty bad, when you need an ad-blocker on your browser, and on yo email, AND on your phone!
Only an ad company would think spam was a good idea. And this is why we're dealing with so much spam! Because adverts are money!
And you wonder why some of us are leaving Face(Ad)book behind?
McDoob
I get spam calls by phone, either automated, or some shoddy company, or a scammer, and the phone company claims it can't do anything. I just don't believe it. They track and trace everyone now...
I think the phone companies are on board with the phone spamming schemes. I don't think phone spamming can render profits enough for the spammer unless they are getting a very cheap phone contract which allows them to make so many calls. That requires the collaboration of some phone
provider that knows what is going on.
I think the phone companies are on board with the phone spamming schemes.
I don't think phone spamming can render profits enough for the spammer unless they are getting a very cheap phone contract which allows them to make so many calls. That requires the collaboration of some phone
provider that knows what is going on.
It sucks because I have heard, more than once, of a doctor having to
phone a patient from our clinic in order to tell her something urgent,
and never having the call received because the patient didn't recognize the phone number and thought it was just another mexican trying to sell her a new TV set.
I think the phone companies are on board with the phone spamming scheme I don't think phone spamming can render profits enough for the spammer unless they are getting a very cheap phone contract which allows them t make so many calls. That requires the collaboration of some phone provider that knows what is going on.
Clearly, you've never heard of VoIP...
Do you really believe that every scammer is hard-wired?
Give your head a shake, if you hear a rattle, find a doctor. Don't call, because (s)he'll hang up on you...
Do you really think that scammers haven't found the internet?
If so, call a mortician.
McDoob
SysOp, PiBBS
pibbs.sytes.net
That is a possibility that there is collusion. I've wondered about the cost them of making all these calls. I've been getting spam SMS's, on average on a day, maybe more about some package that is trying to be delivered. They m be sending thousands of these, as I know others are getting them too.
I think the phone companies are on board with the phone spamming schemes.
I don't think phone spamming can render profits enough for the spammer unless they are getting a very cheap phone contract which allows them to make so many calls. That requires the collaboration of some phone provider that knows what is going on.
It sucks because I have heard, more than once, of a doctor having to phone
a patient from our clinic in order to tell her something urgent, and never having the call received because the patient didn't recognize the phone number and thought it was just another mexican trying to sell her a new TV set.
I have wondered if they are using stolen resources for their campaings. Surely, it is cheaper for them to send SMS if they have hacked some ISP computerand are using the ISP's resources instead of their own.
On the other hand, it seems most calls come from regular companies which probably would not resort to hacking somebody else's computer to sell
you a new TV. Maybe they subcontract the campaigns with some shady
company who does not care if they have to hack and lie and steal in
order to sell you anything, who knows...
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I don't know about you, but for a while all these callers, when asked where they were calling from, would give the same answer. They would claim to be Albert Park, Melbourne. So either these different companies were using the same office, or there was a standard line/lie they used. I believe the latt
I have never asked them where they are hailing from, but if somebody
with a heavy Mexican accent told me he was calling from Melbourne, I
would be surprised XD
It looks like people trying to sell you ISP services in Spain call from South America, and people trying to sell you software or holiday plans call from somewhere in Spain.
I have never asked them where they are hailing from, but if somebody with a heavy Mexican accent told me he was calling from Melbourne, I would be surprised XD
It looks like people trying to sell you ISP services in Spain call from South America, and people trying to sell you software or holiday plans call from somewhere in Spain.
They used to be Indian accents, but I think they caught on and realised that people were hanging up the moment they heard that accent. So now they generally don't have accents.
I don't hang up because of the accent. I hang up the moment I detect it
is a call center.
Lots of these orgs are using robocallers. A computer calls you, and when you pick the phone up, they pass the call to an employee. It takes about
a second for the employee to pick it up, so you can detect it is a call center because of the artificial delay. There is also the fact that a
lot of call centers are really cheap and use no background nopise
filters, so you can hear other employees spamming people in the background.
I think the phone companies are on board with the phone spamming
schemes.
I don't think phone spamming can render profits enough for the spammer unless
they are getting a very cheap phone contract which allows them to make
so many
calls. That requires the collaboration of some phone provider that
knows what is going on.
It sucks because I have heard, more than once, of a doctor having to
phone a
patient from our clinic in order to tell her something urgent, and
never having
the call received because the patient didn't recognize the phone
number and
thought it was just another mexican trying to sell her a new TV set.
Yikes, here in New Zealand, we have voice mail where callers can leave a message if the phone isn't answered. They should ask about that. I'm sure that's available in other countries too.
Yikes, here in New Zealand, we have voice mail where
callers can leave a message if the phone isn't answered.
They should ask about that. I'm sure that's available in
other countries too.
Depending on the carrier, here in North America, voice mail is
only activated when the cellphone is ON.
Depending on the carrier, here in North America, voice mail is
only activated when the cellphone is ON.
lolwut?
When my phone is off is when I'd most want people to be able to leave a message.
I know. I thought mine would do that too, but it doesn't. A
call will only be steered to Vmail only if I don't answer the
call after a few rings. If the phone is turned off, a caller
gets something like "The user is currently unavailable.. Try
again later."
Depending on the carrier, here in North America, voice mail is
only activated when the cellphone is ON.
^^^^^Depending on the carrier, here in North America, voice mail is
only activated when the cellphone is ON.
That has never been the case for me. Any cell service I've had, which included voicemail, has always sent callers direct to voicemail if my
phone was off. Then again, there have been many carriers. Perhaps I was just lucky.
phone was off. Then again, there have been many carriers. Perhaps I wa just lucky.^^^^^
LOL. I'm with LuckyMobile!
I guess that really makes me UN-lucky.
Meanwhile.. I discovered that my phone has 3 Callforwarding
settings:
All 3 are configured to redirect calls to another number. Maybe
if I disable [2], the calls will go to Vmail.
Meanwhile.. I discovered that my phone has 3 Callforwarding
settings:
So, that's a phone 'feature'? Meaning it has nothing to do with your service provider?
All 3 are configured to redirect calls to another number. Maybe
if I disable [2], the calls will go to Vmail.
I would assume this to be the case, especially if incoming
calls are being forwarded when your phone is off. But, did
you not also say that callers *are* reaching your voicemail
when you're busy or not answering? Are the forwarding
numbers all the same, and is that your voicemail?
I have never made use of call forwarding. Having only one
phone, it makes no sense for me to do so.
But I undid the "Forward if No Reply" and changed it to the
Luckymobile v-mail number. Maybe that will now redirect
unanswered calls when the phone is off. Will try it later.
It can be fun though. Send them to 1-888-447-5594 !!! :D
I get spam calls by phone, either automated, or some shoddy
company, or a scammer, and the phone company claims it can't do
anything.
So, maybe this is more of a non-EU problem? :)
Regards,
Anna
On 02-13-22 19:41, Ogg wrote to JoE DooM <=-
I know. I thought mine would do that too, but it doesn't. A
call will only be steered to Vmail only if I don't answer the
call after a few rings. If the phone is turned off, a caller
gets something like "The user is currently unavailable.. Try
again later."
So, maybe this is more of a non-EU problem? :)
I suggest you to come to Spain and enjoy our phone spam. I am aware
we are a third world country in Europe, but still European
nevertheless :-)
Am 15.02.22 schrieb Arelor@21:2/138 in FSX_GEN:
Hallo Arelor,
So, maybe this is more of a non-EU problem? :)
I suggest you to come to Spain and enjoy our phone spam. I am aware
we are a third world country in Europe, but still European
nevertheless :-)
Oh, I didn't know that it is a problem there, sorry.
(And I don't think that Spain is sth. like a 3rd world country!)
I thought that the regulations against phone spam are working in all
EU countries... Sad to hear that that's not the case...
Regards,
Anna
There is a difference between it being illegal, and it not being done.
I can't legally take an order for delivering a gift package to a third party, for example. You can't pay me to send a Christmas box full of Christmas soap to your parents, because your parents would need to
authorize me to use their personal identifying data (address) and to allow me to give such data to the logistics agency in order to make the delivery.
Which is moronic, and as such, everybody in the industry is ignoring this and sending loads of unauthorized gifts on behalf of relatives and whatnot.
Oh, okay o.O I haven't thought about that yet. But it sounds like
something out of the GDPR :)
So in theory, if I buy something and enter some else's address as the delivery address, that could be illegal?!
On 02-13-22 19:41, Ogg wrote to JoE DooM <=-
I know. I thought mine would do that too, but it doesn't. A
call will only be steered to Vmail only if I don't answer the
call after a few rings. If the phone is turned off, a caller
gets something like "The user is currently unavailable.. Try
again later."
That's weird. We get voicemail if the phone is off. Can choose that through configuring the diversions.
I don't like how voicemail is
implemented - having to call back. I remember the first (analogue) phone
I had (which belonged to the company I was working for) had a less fiddly way of accessing voicemail, but since GSM, the <read text> <dial number> <wade through the menu> sequence has annoyed me greatly. I think it's the read and delete text message step that annoys me, instead of having a function on reading that allows me to both delete the text and call the mailbox.
On 02-20-22 14:24, Ogg wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Problem solved. Apparently, I had configured "If
unreachable.." to another number (my shop number). The idea
being that if the phone was off, the calls would reach me at
the shop. But.. since I never really gave out my cell number,
it was moot! LOL. But that was at the early stages after
just having subscribed to a cell service (LuckyMobile) and I
was just exploring the options on the device.
I'm not sure what you mean.. but checking vmail is easy here;
[1] call the vmail "service" [2] enter pin [3] hear messages.
It's really no different calling one's own answering machine
connected to a landline.
I'm not sure what you mean.. but checking vmail is easy here;
[1] call the vmail "service" [2] enter pin [3] hear messages.
It's really no different calling one's own answering machine
connected to a landline.
And that's where things differed. I used to check the landline when I got home - see the light flashing, press the
play" button. :D
The act of having to call back is a deal breaker for me, because the
timing may not be right, and after that I forget. :)
And there's another
variant of voicemail ping pong that happens.
Party A calls Party B.
Party B is slow to answer, phone stops ringing just as they pick it up. Party A leaves voicemail.
Meanwhile Party B calls Party A back, gets Party A's voicemail, leaves message...
:D
On 02-21-22 13:15, Ogg wrote to Vk3jed <=-ght flashing, press the
play" button. :D
But.. didn't yours have the ability to broadcast your message
from remote (without you being at home)? In that situation,
you have to call your home number and enter the code to
activate the playback. That's no different how vmail works with
an established cellphone service.
Sounds to me you need a service that calls YOU to remind you
that you have unheard messages! LOL
And there's another
variant of voicemail ping pong that happens.
Party A calls Party B.
Party B is slow to answer, phone stops ringing just as they pick it up. Party A leaves voicemail.
Meanwhile Party B calls Party A back, gets Party A's voicemail, leaves message...
:D
Haven't experienced that complete senario myself - only the
first part. After leaving a message, I'd get a call from B
asking "you called?" Me, A, says "yeah.. I left a message". B
says, oh.. haven't checked that yet. It's just a bunch of
needless repetition and wasted time on the phone.
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