• Bryan Adams

    From The Millionaire@21:1/183 to All on Sun Jan 30 18:18:00 2022
    Bryan Adams will be releasing a new album in March. It will be titled "So Happy It Hurts".

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  • From Zip@21:1/202 to The Millionaire on Mon Jan 31 13:08:27 2022
    Hello The Millionaire!

    On 30 Jan 2022, The Millionaire said the following...
    Bryan Adams will be releasing a new album in March. It will be titled
    "So Happy It Hurts".

    That's nice!

    Still have my "Waking Up the Neighbours" CD in the bookshelf here... :-D

    Best regards
    Zip

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  • From The Millionaire@21:1/183 to Zip on Mon Jan 31 13:14:50 2022

    Hello The Millionaire!

    On 30 Jan 2022, The Millionaire said the following...

    That's nice!

    Still have my "Waking Up the Neighbours" CD in the bookshelf here... :-D

    Best regards
    Zip

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    That album was 74:55 on the CD. Longest studio album he ever recorded.

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  • From Zip@21:1/202 to The Millionaire on Tue Feb 1 17:29:30 2022
    Hello The Millionaire!

    On 31 Jan 2022, The Millionaire said the following...
    Still have my "Waking Up the Neighbours" CD in the bookshelf here... :-D
    That album was 74:55 on the CD. Longest studio album he ever recorded.

    Yes, I remember quite a number of good (and long) songs on that one...

    Best regards
    Zip

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  • From The Millionaire@21:1/183 to Zip on Tue Feb 1 09:29:47 2022

    Hello The Millionaire!

    On 31 Jan 2022, The Millionaire said the following...

    Yes, I remember quite a number of good (and long) songs on that one...

    Best regards
    Zip

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    Can you imagine how hard it was to get all those songs perfectly timed on the CD?

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  • From Orbitman@21:2/131 to Zip on Tue Feb 1 14:10:57 2022
    On 01 Feb 2022, Zip said the following...

    Hello The Millionaire!

    On 31 Jan 2022, The Millionaire said the following...
    Still have my "Waking Up the Neighbours" CD in the bookshelf here..
    That album was 74:55 on the CD. Longest studio album he ever recorded

    Yes, I remember quite a number of good (and long) songs on that one...

    What a great album! I still have mine. Of course, I never throw away music ;)

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  • From Zip@21:1/202 to The Millionaire on Wed Feb 2 11:06:46 2022
    Hello The Millionaire!

    On 01 Feb 2022, The Millionaire said the following...
    Can you imagine how hard it was to get all those songs perfectly timed
    on the CD?

    I can only imagine -- speaking of that, how often did (or do) CDs exceed the 74 min capacity limit (as per the standard) in practice?

    Best regards
    Zip

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  • From Zip@21:1/202 to Orbitman on Wed Feb 2 11:11:03 2022
    Hello Orbitman!

    On 01 Feb 2022, Orbitman said the following...
    Yes, I remember quite a number of good (and long) songs on that one..
    What a great album! I still have mine. Of course, I never throw away
    music ;)

    :-)

    Actually I *did* purge some CDs a few years ago, but kept most...

    Transferred the "good" songs to 320 kbps CBR MP3s, which is good enough for me (casual listening).

    But keeping the "good" CDs as some time I might want to switch to FLAC or something similar...

    Best regards
    Zip

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  • From The Millionaire@21:1/183 to Zip on Wed Feb 2 10:51:20 2022

    Hello The Millionaire!

    On 01 Feb 2022, The Millionaire said the following...

    I can only imagine -- speaking of that, how often did (or do) CDs exceed the 74 min capacity limit (as per the standard) in practice?

    Best regards
    Zip

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    Pet Shop Boys - Discography was 76:24.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Zip on Thu Feb 3 07:05:00 2022
    Zip wrote to The Millionaire <=-

    I can only imagine -- speaking of that, how often did (or do) CDs
    exceed the 74 min capacity limit (as per the standard) in practice?

    Global Communication's album, 76:14, is 76 minutes and 14 seconds long.

    What a coincidence that is!


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  • From Zip@21:1/202 to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Feb 4 10:50:09 2022
    Hello poindexter FORTRAN!

    On 03 Feb 2022, poindexter FORTRAN said the following...
    Global Communication's album, 76:14, is 76 minutes and 14 seconds long. What a coincidence that is!

    :-D :-D

    I wonder if any CD players had problems playing these slightly longer discs?

    (80 min CD-Rs came long, but were maybe targeted more towards fitting
    more data rather than more music...)

    Best regards
    Zip

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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to Zip on Fri Feb 4 09:38:20 2022
    Re: Re: Bryan Adams
    By: Zip to The Millionaire on Wed Feb 02 2022 11:06 am

    Can you imagine how hard it was to get all those songs perfectly
    timed on the CD?

    I can only imagine -- speaking of that, how often did (or do) CDs exceed the 74 min capacity limit (as per the standard) in practice?

    I thought the standard had been extended to 80 minutes? When CD burners and CD-R discs first came out, I remember them first being 650MB or 74 minutes, and then they went to 700MB or 80 minutes.

    I think it has been fairly rare to see a music CD that is filled to capacity. And the same issue has happened with cassette tapes and vinyl records too. There were some songs that were even shortened to fit onto the vinyl record version. One example is Dire Straits' "Brothers In Arms" album - I heard that album was recorded digitally (intended to sound its best on a CD), but they also released the album on vinyl, and they had to shorten their song "Money For Nothing" for the vinyl release in order for everything to fit.

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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to Zip on Fri Feb 4 09:43:52 2022
    Re: Re: Bryan Adams
    By: Zip to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Feb 04 2022 10:50 am

    I wonder if any CD players had problems playing these slightly longer discs?

    (80 min CD-Rs came long, but were maybe targeted more towards fitting
    more data rather than more music...)

    I very rarely had any problems playing 80 minute CD-R discs in the CD players I had. But at the time, I also had CD players that had been made around that time, so maybe they were made to read thoe discs.

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  • From boraxman@21:1/101 to Zip on Sat Feb 5 14:12:56 2022
    I wonder if any CD players had problems playing these slightly longer discs?

    (80 min CD-Rs came long, but were maybe targeted more towards fitting
    more data rather than more music...)

    Best regards


    The 80 minute CD's were targeted more for increased data. I did use some for audio, and never recall any issues with CD players. You were more likely to get a problem with CD players from cheap disks which had poor dye.

    The 80 minute CD's basically had a tighter spiral, which was likely within the tolerance of what most, but possibly not the oldest, cd players could handle.

    There were disks which were even longer, but then you'd be risking incompatibility problems.

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  • From The Millionaire@21:1/183 to All on Fri Feb 4 18:06:27 2022
    ECDs aka Enhanced CDs were also pretty cool too back in the late 1990s. Sarah McLachlan - Surfacing was one of them.

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  • From The Millionaire@21:1/183 to Zip on Fri Feb 4 18:18:53 2022


    That album was 74:55 on the CD. Longest studio album he ever recorded.

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    It was DDD also which was a bonus.

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  • From Zip@21:1/202 to Nightfox on Sat Feb 5 10:15:30 2022
    Hello Nightfox!

    On 04 Feb 2022, Nightfox said the following...
    I very rarely had any problems playing 80 minute CD-R discs in the CD players I had. But at the time, I also had CD players that had been
    made around that time, so maybe they were made to read thoe discs.

    Yep, same thing here, maybe they were adapted to the added capacity...

    Best regards
    Zip

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  • From Zip@21:1/202 to boraxman on Sat Feb 5 10:17:03 2022
    Hello boraxman!

    Thank you for your reply!

    On 05 Feb 2022, boraxman said the following...
    The 80 minute CD's basically had a tighter spiral, which was likely
    within the tolerance of what most, but possibly not the oldest, cd
    players could handle.

    Thanks for the info! Yep, sounds logical.

    Best regards
    Zip

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  • From Zip@21:1/202 to The Millionaire on Sat Feb 5 10:20:48 2022
    Hello The Millionaire!

    On 04 Feb 2022, The Millionaire said the following...
    That album was 74:55 on the CD. Longest studio album he ever recorded.
    It was DDD also which was a bonus.

    Ah, yes, sounds like a good thing for a CD. :)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPARS_code

    (I didn't know DDD was so early -- I thought it might had started sometime around the early 90s...)

    Best regards
    Zip

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  • From The Millionaire@21:1/183 to Zip on Sat Feb 5 11:02:23 2022

    Hello The Millionaire!

    On 04 Feb 2022, The Millionaire said the following...

    Ah, yes, sounds like a good thing for a CD. :)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPARS_code

    (I didn't know DDD was so early -- I thought it might had started sometime around the early 90s...)

    Best regards
    Zip

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    Corey Hart - Fields Of Fire was DDD and that was 1986.

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  • From Blue White@21:4/134 to Nightfox on Sat Feb 5 11:15:45 2022
    I think it has been fairly rare to see a music CD that is filled to capacity. And the same issue has happened with cassette tapes and
    vinyl records too. There were some songs that were even shortened to
    fit onto the vinyl record version. One example is Dire Straits'
    "Brothers In Arms" album - I heard that album was recorded digitally (intended to sound its best on a CD), but they also released the album
    on vinyl, and they had to shorten their song "Money For Nothing" for
    the vinyl release in order for everything to fit.

    It was one of the first all digital albums. Another interesting tidbit is
    that the cassette version had a longer version of that song than the CD, as well as longer versions of a couple of other songs.

    Another band that did the opposite... the Cure's "Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss
    Me" CD is short a track from the album and cassette, because it would not
    fit on the CD. That is the only CD I have that I know of that is shorter
    than the album version.


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  • From Nightfox@21:1/137 to Blue White on Sat Feb 5 14:20:49 2022
    Re: Re: Bryan Adams
    By: Blue White to Nightfox on Sat Feb 05 2022 11:15 am

    album on vinyl, and they had to shorten their song "Money For
    Nothing" for the vinyl release in order for everything to fit.

    It was one of the first all digital albums. Another interesting tidbit is that the cassette version had a longer version of that song than the CD, as well as longer versions of a couple of other songs.

    Interesting.. I suppose that may be because there wasn't enough room on the CD? I might want to buy the cassette now.. :P (I have a USB cassette player so I could digitize a cassette if I wanted to)

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to The Millionaire on Sat Feb 5 14:51:00 2022
    The Millionaire wrote to All <=-

    ECDs aka Enhanced CDs were also pretty cool too back in the late 1990s. Sarah McLachlan - Surfacing was one of them.

    I had that one - put it in a computer and you'd get a menu of multimedia to choose from. I think it was an attempt to stop you from being able to rip
    the audio, as the computer would recognize the data partition and
    (hopefully) ignore the audio part.


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  • From The Millionaire@21:1/183 to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun Feb 6 10:06:46 2022


    I had that one - put it in a computer and you'd get a menu of multimedia to choose from. I think it was an attempt to stop you from being able to rip the audio, as the computer would recognize the data partition and
    (hopefully) ignore the audio part.

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    I was able to record the audio manually in real time. Ripping was however prohibited on the CD due to the way that it was burned.

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  • From Blue White@21:4/134 to Nightfox on Mon Feb 7 15:57:05 2022
    Nightfox wrote to Blue White <=-

    It was one of the first all digital albums. Another interesting tidbit is that the cassette version had a longer version of that song than the CD, as well as longer versions of a couple of other songs.

    Interesting.. I suppose that may be because there wasn't enough room
    on the CD? I might want to buy the cassette now.. :P (I have a USB cassette player so I could digitize a cassette if I wanted to)

    I don't know if that was the reason, or if they were just "bonus length"
    tracks for buying the cassette. :)




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