• Re: New BBS in the works.

    From Havok@21:4/10 to Al on Sat Apr 25 18:47:52 2020
    Re: Re: New BBS in the works.
    By: Al to Havok on Sat Feb 22 2020 07:17 pm


    Give Magicka a try and give your feedback and ideas to Apam. It's not Renegade or VA I know, but it's off the a good start.

    I may but right now I'm trying to learn SBBS and it's kind of fun learning!



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  • From Havok@21:4/10 to apam on Sat Apr 25 18:55:37 2020
    Re: Re: New BBS in the works.
    By: apam to Havok on Sun Feb 23 2020 02:04 pm

    Do you have any coding skills? Writing a BBS isn't too hard if you break it down into smaller pieces. The hardest part is integrating the older technologies I think like squish or JAM or FTN etc. If you use squish or JAM then you can use HPT as a tosser and binkd as a mailer and focus on the BBS.

    Hello apam, better late then never to reply!

    No I don't have much of any skills in coding.

    But being I built concept cars for GM Engineering give me a surface plate
    and flag I can start from the ground up and build a car from start to
    finish that drives to a truck and then to the Auto Shows.

    My son being around me playing and building computers did follow your path.
    I guess we all have some kind of skill set.

    And yes your good at yours!


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  • From bbsing@21:1/101 to Vk3jed on Tue Jan 5 21:06:05 2021
    On 27 Feb 2020 at 02:34p, Vk3jed pondered and said...
    incornations of my HMB to prove that! :D The biggest weakness of the
    HMB was a 16M size limit for the _entire_ messagebase. When your messagebase has close to 200 echos (plus netmail), and many of those
    areas are fairly active, it makes the messagebase very susceptible to being overloaded. Once you break the 16M limit, ugly things happen,
    like everything gets scrambled, and weird crossposts happen!

    Hi Vk3jed,

    When you say crosspost, what is that?

    I'm using qwk packs and offline readers as a bbs user, and I'm seeing errors
    on many of the messages in the qwk packs. I'm using multimail 0.52, and terminate 5.0's mail reader. Both systems behave differently.

    Multimail shows the message count for an area, but the area index has many messages that have error 0 message for the message line.

    In Terminate's (old dos program) the messages from field looks missing and
    the messages body runs through the from, and subject. Each message looks to contain several messages.

    Things just looked mangled.

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  • From Al@21:4/106.1 to bbsing on Tue Jan 5 00:42:26 2021
    Re: Re: New BBS in the works.
    By: bbsing to Vk3jed on Tue Jan 05 2021 09:06 pm

    When you say crosspost, what is that?

    I think vk3jed was speaking of issues that can happen if a hudson message base grows beyond it's limits.

    I'm using qwk packs and offline readers as a bbs user, and I'm seeing errors on many of the messages in the qwk packs. I'm using multimail 0.52, and terminate 5.0's mail reader. Both systems behave differently.

    That's an odd one. Both MultiMail and Terminate have nice message readers. Terminate has an excellent point reader built in.

    Things just looked mangled.

    Do you see that with all the QWK packets you download or is that on a particular BBS?

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to bbsing on Tue Jan 5 21:28:00 2021
    On 01-05-21 21:06, bbsing wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    On 27 Feb 2020 at 02:34p, Vk3jed pondered and said...
    incornations of my HMB to prove that! :D The biggest weakness of the
    HMB was a 16M size limit for the _entire_ messagebase. When your messagebase has close to 200 echos (plus netmail), and many of those
    areas are fairly active, it makes the messagebase very susceptible to being overloaded. Once you break the 16M limit, ugly things happen,
    like everything gets scrambled, and weird crossposts happen!

    Hi Vk3jed,

    When you say crosspost, what is that?

    With a corrupt HMB, messages would find their way into the wrong area and even get exported to the wrong echos!

    I'm using qwk packs and offline readers as a bbs user, and I'm seeing errors on many of the messages in the qwk packs. I'm using multimail
    0.52, and terminate 5.0's mail reader. Both systems behave differently.

    Hmm, I don't recognise any of the symptoms you're describing. :( When I had a corrupt messagebase, I could still download messages into Bluewave (that's what I used back then), but they were all in the wrong areas, almost randomaly scattered throughout the messagebase. Only fix was to delete the messagebase and start again. I can't recall if multiple message bodies ended up with the one header or anything weird like that, it was a very long time ago!

    Anyway, looks like you have some form of corruption somewhere.


    Multimail shows the message count for an area, but the area index has
    many messages that have error 0 message for the message line.

    In Terminate's (old dos program) the messages from field looks missing
    and the messages body runs through the from, and subject. Each message looks to contain several messages.

    Things just looked mangled.

    Definitely something's corrupted!


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  • From Bob Roberts@21:2/118 to Vk3jed on Tue Jan 5 08:46:52 2021
    I'm using qwk packs and offline readers as a bbs user, and I'm
    seeing errors on many of the messages in the qwk packs. I'm using
    multimail 0.52, and terminate 5.0's mail reader. Both systems behave differently.

    Hmm, I don't recognise any of the symptoms you're describing. :( When I had a corrupt messagebase, I could still download messages into Bluewave (that's what I used back then), but they were all in the wrong areas, almost randomaly scattered throughout the messagebase. Only fix was to delete the messagebase and start again. I can't recall if multiple message

    It could be something to do with the QWK export settings from the hosting BBS. Perhaps a missing CONTROL.DAT or incorrect QWKE setting?

    Multimail should support QWKE just fine. Not sure about Terminate. Back when I used Terminate it was just a comm program.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Bob Roberts on Wed Jan 6 19:29:00 2021
    On 01-05-21 08:46, Bob Roberts wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    It could be something to do with the QWK export settings from the
    hosting BBS. Perhaps a missing CONTROL.DAT or incorrect QWKE setting?

    I know the wrong QWK settings on the BBS end cause packets to fail to open in Multimail. Haven't seen that sort of corruption though.

    Multimail should support QWKE just fine. Not sure about Terminate.
    Back when I used Terminate it was just a comm program.

    Yeah Multimail opens QWKE fine - I'm doing it now. :)


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  • From TheMadGamerMan@21:1/190 to Havok on Thu Nov 5 03:16:54 2020
    I'd give anything to have your skill set and move to redoing the old source code to Renegade or Virtual Advance 5.0 source code.

    You and me both.

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  • From apam@21:1/126 to Al on Sun Feb 23 13:51:18 2020

    So far I have logins and signups working and reading squish
    message bases.

    I'd love to see squish and *.msg support in Magicka. I don't think
    I'd use *.msg for a lot but there are times when *.msg support
    comes in handy. Makenl only has support for *.msg and some games
    use *.msg to attach files to be sent to other nodes. The GAC games
    come to mind.

    I don't think I will be adding squish support to magicka, from what I
    can tell JAM is better. .MSG could be useful though.

    I haven't actually setup netmail on the BBS yet but I wonder, does
    Magicka do AKA matching, so if I write a netmail to an fsxNet node
    it uses my fsxNet AKA and if I write one in fidonet it uses my
    fidonet AKA?

    Magicka uses per network netmail bases, rather than one big netmail
    base. So you would have a netmail base in your fsxnet conference and it
    would use that aka, and one in your fidonet conference and it would use
    that aka.

    Andrew

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  • From apam@21:1/126 to Havok on Sun Feb 23 14:04:46 2020

    So I was bored yesterday and started on a new BBS package
    (because that's what I do when I am bored).

    I'd give anything to have your skill set and move to redoing the
    old source code to Renegade or Virtual Advance 5.0 source code.

    I had thought someone was working on renegade?

    I had a look at the source for forum but the license was terrible so i
    slowly backed away from it :) It's probably better to start from scratch
    than redoing something old I think, just because people have no
    expectations and there is no legal worries.

    Do you have any coding skills? Writing a BBS isn't too hard if you break
    it down into smaller pieces. The hardest part is integrating the older technologies I think like squish or JAM or FTN etc. If you use squish or
    JAM then you can use HPT as a tosser and binkd as a mailer and focus on
    the BBS.

    It would be cool to get more people interested in BBS development, at
    one point years ago I started a tutorial, though I don't think anyone
    was really interested. I find it fun, though I know it's not for
    everyone.

    Andrew

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to apam on Sun Feb 23 19:30:38 2020

    On 23 Feb 2020 at 12:04p, apam pondered and said...

    I'm a bit tired of working on it today, so might pick it up later.

    Anyway, just having fun. :)

    That's the main thing :)

    I think when you can scratch an itch of curiosity things can get interesting very quickly.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to bbsing on Fri Dec 17 19:28:00 2021
    On 01-05-21 21:06, bbsing wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    When you say crosspost, what is that?

    Messages get posted to the wrong area. This happens if the corruption happens between new messages getting posted and them getting scanned for forwarding to other BBSs. Because the headers are all screwed up, they get sent to the wrong echo.

    I'm using qwk packs and offline readers as a bbs user, and I'm seeing errors on many of the messages in the qwk packs. I'm using multimail
    0.52, and terminate 5.0's mail reader. Both systems behave differently.


    Multimail shows the message count for an area, but the area index has
    many messages that have error 0 message for the message line.

    In Terminate's (old dos program) the messages from field looks missing
    and the messages body runs through the from, and subject. Each message looks to contain several messages.

    Things just looked mangled.

    Yep, seen that too. :)


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Bob Roberts on Fri Dec 17 19:30:00 2021
    On 01-05-21 08:46, Bob Roberts wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    It could be something to do with the QWK export settings from the
    hosting BBS. Perhaps a missing CONTROL.DAT or incorrect QWKE setting?

    We were talking about the effects of a corrupt Hudson messagebase.


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