Hello All. New Winpoint user here, after many years away from Fidonet.

Installation was painless, especially compared to the days of struggling to get X00/Binkley/QuickBBS, and all of the required axilliary programs running.

One nagging issue I am having, it that during message entry, every character I type appears to be followed by a space, no matter what font or font size I try.

Also, after I first got it configured and running, I exited by hitting the "X" in the upper right corner. I suspect that this didn't properly close all of the files, because I got an error when I tried to run it again. Reinstalling, and telling it to overwrite the configuration files got it fixed. Since then, I have used FILE|EXIT to quit, and haven't had any trouble. Is this a known issue?


Regards,
Al Thompson
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Hello Al!

*** Sunday 13.02.22 at 23:57:40, Al Thompson wrote to All:

Hello All. New Winpoint user here, after many years away from Fidonet.

Welcome back and welcome to the world of WinPoint :-)

Installation was painless,

Excellent :)

especially compared to the days of struggling to get
X00/Binkley/QuickBBS, and all of the required axilliary programs running.

Ah yes, happy days! ;)

One nagging issue I am having, it that during message entry, every character I type appears to be followed by a space, no matter what font
or font size I try.

I've *never* seen that happen here.

Also, after I first got it configured and running, I exited by hitting
the "X" in the upper right corner.

I *always* do that.

I suspect that this didn't properly close all of the files, because I got an error when I tried to run it again.

No errors here, how strange ??

Do you remember what the error message was?

Reinstalling, and telling it to overwrite the configuration files got it fixed. Since then, I have used FILE|EXIT to quit, and haven't had any trouble.

Well, at least you've fixed it :)

Is this a known issue?

Nope.

Regards,
Martin

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//Hello Martin,//

Welcome back and welcome to the world of WinPoint :-)

I've missed the Fidonet community.

One nagging issue I am having, it that during message entry, every
character I type appears to be followed by a space, no matter what font
or font size I try.

I've never seen that happen here.

It's not a deal breaker for me. I have a screenshot comparing the text spacing in the message reading window compared to the text entry window, which I, of course, can't attach. I'll try sending it to you vie netmail.


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I forgot to ask...do I need to worry about getting a nodelist and compiling it?


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Hello Al!

*** Monday 14.02.22 at 10:48:57, Al Thompson wrote to Martin Foster:

I forgot to ask...do I need to worry about getting a nodelist and compiling it?

If you don't intend sending crash netmail(s), doing file requests or sending *direct* file attaches, then you don't need a nodelist.

Just a word on file attaches:
Some SysOps don't allow in-transit files through their systems, so it's always best to send them Crash/Direct. In that case, you would need an installed/compiled nodelist.

Regards,
Martin

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Hello Al!

*** Monday 14.02.22 at 10:29:29, Al Thompson wrote to Martin Foster:

Welcome back and welcome to the world of WinPoint :-)

I've missed the Fidonet community.

Awwwww, how sweet :-)))

One nagging issue I am having, it that during message entry, every
character I type appears to be followed by a space, no matter what font
or font size I try.

I've never seen that happen here.

It's not a deal breaker for me. I have a screenshot comparing the text spacing in the message reading window compared to the text entry window, which I, of course, can't attach. I'll try sending it to you vie
netmail.

OK but I may not get it, see my previous message.

Regards,
Martin

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On 2022 Feb 14 05:29:28, you wrote to Martin Foster:

It's not a deal breaker for me. I have a screenshot comparing the
text spacing in the message reading window compared to the text entry window, which I, of course, can't attach. I'll try sending it to you
vie netmail.

why not just post it to some image hosting site and then post a link to it in a message? that's how it is done in many other venues and software packages...

)\/(ark

"The soul of a small kitten in the body of a mighty dragon. Look on my majesty, ye mighty, and despair! Or bring me catnip. Your choice. Oooh, a shiny thing!"
... No mercy from the edge of a blade. Dare escape & learn the price to be paid.
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on *14.02.22* at *12:40:52* You wrote in area *WINPOINT*
to *Al Thompson* about *"New Winpoint user"*.

On 2022 Feb 14 05:29:28, you wrote to Martin Foster:

It's not a deal breaker for me. I have a screenshot comparing the
text spacing in the message reading window compared to the text entry
window, which I, of course, can't attach. I'll try sending it to you
vie netmail.

why not just post it to some image hosting site and then post a link to
it in a message? that's how it is done in many other venues and software packages...

Try this:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/shkdwvyuzceccsi/example.jpg?dl=0

This window on the left is the message view window, and on the right is the text in the message entry window. You can see that even quoted text is spaced differently.
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//Hello Martin,//

on *14.02.22* at *11:51:28* You wrote in area *WINPOINT*
to *Al Thompson* about *"New Winpoint user"*.

Hello Al!

*** Monday 14.02.22 at 10:48:57, Al Thompson wrote to Martin Foster:

I forgot to ask...do I need to worry about getting a nodelist and
compiling it?

If you don't intend sending crash netmail(s), doing file requests or sending direct file attaches, then you don't need a nodelist.

Since nearly everyone uses the internet to transfer mail now, is there any disadvantage to crashmail? Is it frowned on?
--- WinPoint 398.2
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on *14.02.22* at *12:40:52* You wrote in area *WINPOINT*
to *Al Thompson* about *"New Winpoint user"*.

It's not a deal breaker for me. I have a screenshot comparing the
text spacing in the message reading window compared to the text entry
window, which I, of course, can't attach. I'll try sending it to you
vie netmail.

why not just post it to some image hosting site and then post a link to
it in a message? that's how it is done in many other venues and software packages...

For some reason, the one I tried sharing isn't working. Try this one instead:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/c7igaos1wu7joy5/example.jpg?dl=0
--- WinPoint 398.2
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Hello Al!

*** Tuesday 15.02.22 at 4:48:10, Al Thompson wrote to mark lewis:

on 14.02.22 at 12:40:52 You wrote in area WINPOINT to Al Thompson about "New Winpoint user".

On 2022 Feb 14 05:29:28, you wrote to Martin Foster:

It's not a deal breaker for me. I have a screenshot comparing the
text spacing in the message reading window compared to the text entry
window, which I, of course, can't attach. I'll try sending it to you
vie netmail.

why not just post it to some image hosting site and then post a link to
it in a message? that's how it is done in many other venues and software
packages...

Try this:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/shkdwvyuzceccsi/example.jpg?dl=0

When I point my browser at that URL, it reports "This file was deleted" :(

Regards,
Martin

--- WinPoint 398.2
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Hello Al!

*** Tuesday 15.02.22 at 9:42:11, Al Thompson wrote to Martin Foster:

I forgot to ask...do I need to worry about getting a nodelist and
compiling it?

If you don't intend sending crash netmail(s), doing file requests or
sending direct file attaches, then you don't need a nodelist.

Since nearly everyone uses the internet to transfer mail now, is there
any disadvantage to crashmail?

Nope.

Is it frowned on?

OH!
I dare not answer that one :-/

Regards,
Martin

--- WinPoint 398.2
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Hello Al!

*** Tuesday 15.02.22 at 9:45:37, Al Thompson wrote to mark lewis:

[snip]

why not just post it to some image hosting site and then post a link to
it in a message? that's how it is done in many other venues and software
packages...

For some reason, the one I tried sharing isn't working. Try this one instead:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/c7igaos1wu7joy5/example.jpg?dl=0

Yes, that works and I can see exactly what the problem is.

Regards,
Martin

--- WinPoint 398.2
* Origin: WinPoint Test Rig - UK - (2:280/464.27)

On 2022 Feb 14 23:48:10, you wrote to me:

This window on the left is the message view window, and on the right
is the text in the message entry window. You can see that even quoted
text is spaced differently.

are you using the same font for both viewing and composing?
which font(s) are you using?
are they mono-spaced or variable spaced?

note: i don't use winpoint (or windows at all) but my questions and comments may lead one to a solution...

)\/(ark

"The soul of a small kitten in the body of a mighty dragon. Look on my majesty, ye mighty, and despair! Or bring me catnip. Your choice. Oooh, a shiny thing!"
... Always look for the calculations that go with a calculated risk.
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If you don't intend sending crash netmail(s), doing file requests or
sending direct file attaches, then you don't need a nodelist.

Since nearly everyone uses the internet to transfer mail now, is there any disadvantage to crashmail? Is it frowned on?

No, it's not frowned on. It's the way to go today.

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Hello Al Thompson!

** On Monday 14.02.22 - 05:48, Al Thompson wrote to Martin Foster:

I forgot to ask...do I need to worry about getting a nodelist and compiling it?

You SHOULD give it a go just to experience the fine Nodelist
Viewer! [F9]

--
../|ug

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* Origin: My Westcoast Point (1:153/757.21)

//Hello August,//

on *15.02.22* at *13:42:00* You wrote in Area *WINPOINT*
to *Al Thompson* about *"New Winpoint user"*.

I forgot to ask...do I need to worry about getting a nodelist and
compiling it?

You SHOULD give it a go just to experience the fine Nodelist
Viewer! [F9]

Thanks for appreciating that one. Since it exists (at least 20 years), no one ever mentioned it :)

Regards,
Tim
--- WinPoint 399.2
* Origin: Original WinPoint Origin! (2:240/1120.29)

//Hello Al,//

on *15.02.22* at *9:45:37* You wrote in Area *WINPOINT*
to *mark lewis* about *"New Winpoint user"*.

For some reason, the one I tried sharing isn't working. Try this one instead:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/c7igaos1wu7joy5/example.jpg?dl=0

BTW: What operating system are you using?

Regards,
Tim
--- WinPoint 399.2
* Origin: Original WinPoint Origin! (2:240/1120.29)

Hello Tim,

On Tuesday 15.02.22, you wrote to August Abolins:

You SHOULD give it a go just to experience the fine Nodelist
Viewer! [F9]

Thanks for appreciating that one. Since it exists (at least 20 years), no one ever mentioned it :)

It's just one of the handiest NL lookup tools I've seen. :D


../|ug
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Wie gehts!

Newbie user here, my Deutsch is horrid, I have looked in the docs I can read and still have a question. Can I change the origin line to something else?

If yes, can I get some pointers as to where I can make this change?

Danke


Regards,
Brian Indy
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//Hello Tim,//

on *15.02.22* at *21:04:33* You wrote in area *WINPOINT*
to *Al Thompson* about *"Re: New Winpoint user"*.

Hello Al,

on 15.02.22 at 9:45:37 You wrote in Area WINPOINT to mark lewis about
"New Winpoint user".

For some reason, the one I tried sharing isn't working. Try this one
instead:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/c7igaos1wu7joy5/example.jpg?dl=0

BTW: What operating system are you using?

WIN 10
--- WinPoint 398.2
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Hi Brian,

Tuesday February 15 2022 20:40, you wrote to All:

Wie gehts!
Newbie user here, my Deutsch is horrid, I have looked in the docs I
can read and still have a question. Can I change the origin line to something else?

If yes, can I get some pointers as to where I can make this change?

File - Options - Tab:Text Groups
if there is nothing in here, create one
in the selection box in the middle of the window you can select between:

new mails (header)
new mails (footer)
replies (header)
replies (footer)
forwards (header)
forwards (footer)
comments (header)
comments (footer)
Origins <===

Danke

Regards,
Brian Indy
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regards, uli ;-)

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//Hello Ulrich,//

on *16.02.22* at *7:20:11* You wrote in area *WINPOINT*
to *Brian Indy* about *"Change origin Line?"*.

US> File - Options - Tab:Text Groups

if there is nothing in here, create one
in the selection box in the middle of the window you can select between:

new mails (header)
new mails (footer)
replies (header)
replies (footer)
forwards (header)
forwards (footer)
comments (header)
comments (footer)
Origins <===

Thank you very much, that did the trick for me.


Regards,
Brian Indy
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Hello mark!

### Monday 14.02.22 at 07:40, mark lewis wrote to Al Thompson:

It's not a deal breaker for me. I have a screenshot comparing the
text spacing in the message reading window compared to the text entry
window, which I, of course, can't attach. I'll try sending it to you
vie netmail.

why not just post it to some image hosting site and then post a link to
it in a message? that's how it is done in many other venues and software packages...

Yes, that seems to be the current way of doing it.

Regards,
Martin

--- OpenXP 5.0.51
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Hello August!

### Tuesday 15.02.22 at 19:59, August Abolins wrote to Tim Schattkowsky:

You SHOULD give it a go just to experience the fine Nodelist
Viewer! [F9]

Thanks for appreciating that one. Since it exists (at least 20 years),
no one ever mentioned it :)

It's just one of the handiest NL lookup tools I've seen. :D

Yeah, me too :)

Regards,
Martin

--- OpenXP 5.0.51
* Origin: Sitting on the fence (2:310/31.3)

El 15/2/22 a las 08:06, Martin Foster escribió:

Hello Al!

*** Tuesday 15.02.22 at 9:45:37, Al Thompson wrote to mark lewis:

[snip]
ml>> why not just post it to some image hosting site and then post a link to
ml>> it in a message? that's how it is done in many other venues and software
ml>> packages...

AT> For some reason, the one I tried sharing isn't working. Try this one
AT> instead:

AT> https://www.dropbox.com/s/c7igaos1wu7joy5/example.jpg?dl=0

Yes, that works and I can see exactly what the problem is.

I have same issue for new message, this is windows server 2016 (spanish)
and i remember that same on windows 2003:

https://postimg.cc/WdHfFznX
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//Hello Martin,//

on *16.02.2022* at *13:21:00* You wrote in Area *WINPOINT*
to *August Abolins* about *"experience the fine Nodelist Viewer [F9]"*.

Hello August!

### Tuesday 15.02.22 at 19:59, August Abolins wrote to Tim Schattkowsky:

You SHOULD give it a go just to experience the fine Nodelist
Viewer! [F9]

Thanks for appreciating that one. Since it exists (at least 20 years),
no one ever mentioned it :)

It's just one of the handiest NL lookup tools I've seen. :D

Yeah, me too :)

Thanks :)

Regards,
Tim
--- WinPoint 399.2
* Origin: Original WinPoint Origin! (2:240/1120.29)

//Hello Fernando,//

on *16.02.22* at *15:22:02* You wrote in Area *WINPOINT*
to *Martin Foster* about *"Re: New Winpoint user"*.

El 15/2/22 a las 08:06, Martin Foster escribió:

Hello Al!

*** Tuesday 15.02.22 at 9:45:37, Al Thompson wrote to mark lewis:

[snip]
ml>> why not just post it to some image hosting site and then post a
link to
ml>> it in a message? that's how it is done in many other venues and
software
ml>> packages...

AT> For some reason, the one I tried sharing isn't working. Try this
one
AT> instead:

AT> https://www.dropbox.com/s/c7igaos1wu7joy5/example.jpg?dl=0

Yes, that works and I can see exactly what the problem is.

I have same issue for new message, this is windows server 2016 (spanish) and i remember that same on windows 2003:

Can you check if Lucida Console is installed on the system and configured for the editor in WP?

Regards,
Tim
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