• ArchLinux

    From GRYPHON@46:1/116 to ACCESS DENIED on Thu Jan 31 19:20:17 2019
    On 08/22/14, Access Denied said the following...

    Hello g00r00,

    On 21 Aug 14 17:53, g00r00 wrote to Access Denied:

    I'm sold! I'll have to give it a chance sometime.

    Right now I am using Ubuntu 14, having recently switched from Mint Linux 13. I usually pick whatever I can find that has the packages I want, so I have little to no code compiling.

    The main difference with Archlinux is that after you install, you have a barebones command line system with a package manager. After that, you
    add what YOU want, not what they think you want. :)

    So a simple:

    pacman -S xorg [gnome/kde/fluxbox/whatever]

    Will get you X and a desktop environment of your choice in about 5
    minutes or less, depending on whether you install kde or fluxbox (big
    meta packaged desktop environment compared to a very small lightweight window manager).

    I switched to Ubuntu because it had SDL2 at the time, when most other didn't.

    Looks like:

    pacman -S sdl2

    wants to install sdl2 and all it's dependencies. :)

    pacman -Syu

    updates your entire system.

    pacman -Rsu

    removes package(s) and it's dependencies as well as any unneeded
    packages (if dependencies weren't removed but a package was at some point).

    The list goes on.. But it's short and sweet and to the point. I don't
    have anything on here that's not being used. :)

    My only attempt at installing Arch Linux was on my Pi. It seemed to install great, but then *after* the install it wanted to configure the swap space.
    But there was no more space on the drive to add it, because it was all used during the install. Is that a problem that is specific to the Pi install?
    Can it be worked into the initial installation, so that I don't have to configure swap after the fact?

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  • From ACCESS DENIED@46:1/701 to GRYPHON on Thu Jan 31 19:20:17 2019
    Hello Gryphon,

    On 23 Aug 14 21:05, Gryphon wrote to Access Denied:

    My only attempt at installing Arch Linux was on my Pi. It seemed to install great, but then *after* the install it wanted to configure the swap space. But there was no more space on the drive to add it,
    because it was all used during the install. Is that a problem that is specific to the Pi install? Can it be worked into the initial installation, so that I don't have to configure swap after the fact?

    I don't have a Pi, so I can't tell you honestly if it's the Pi version specific, though I've never had a problem with anything related to swap on anything I've installed Arch wise.

    I've definitely never had to redo the swap configuration after the initial install. Was it maybe a typo when initially setting up your /etc/fstab? If not that, then maybe there is something odd with the Pi version. *shrug* Sorry I can't be more help on that one. :(

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From GRYPHON@46:1/116 to ACCESS DENIED on Thu Jan 31 19:20:17 2019
    On 08/23/14, Access Denied said the following...

    Hello Gryphon,

    On 23 Aug 14 21:05, Gryphon wrote to Access Denied:

    My only attempt at installing Arch Linux was on my Pi. It seemed to install great, but then *after* the install it wanted to configure th swap space. But there was no more space on the drive to add it, because it was all used during the install. Is that a problem that i specific to the Pi install? Can it be worked into the initial installation, so that I don't have to configure swap after the fact?

    I don't have a Pi, so I can't tell you honestly if it's the Pi version specific, though I've never had a problem with anything related to swap
    on anything I've installed Arch wise.

    I've definitely never had to redo the swap configuration after the
    initial install. Was it maybe a typo when initially setting up your /etc/fstab? If not that, then maybe there is something odd with the Pi version. *shrug* Sorry I can't be more help on that one. :(

    It has been a bit, so I don't remember the details exactly. I don't remember setting up the fstab, and I don't remember getting the option. I suppose I could try it again. This is one of the good things about having a pi. It can be used to for evaluating several different OSes.

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  • From ACCESS DENIED@46:1/701 to GRYPHON on Thu Jan 31 19:20:17 2019
    Hello Gryphon,

    On 24 Aug 14 09:15, Gryphon wrote to Access Denied:

    It has been a bit, so I don't remember the details exactly. I don't remember setting up the fstab, and I don't remember getting the
    option. I suppose I could try it again. This is one of the good
    things about having a pi. It can be used to for evaluating several different OSes.

    Even though I've used Gentoo for over a decade, and Arch for long enough now where I'm comfortable with it, I still recommend (if you can do so with another

    machine, or outside your VM or whatever) having the install guide handy and skimming through it while you install. Every once in awhile on gentoo I would forget to install dhcpcd (which is part of the Gentoo handbook installation process, obviously) and be screwed until I did so, not thinking about what I had missed during the install.

    So yeah, having the distro specific install guide handy on a text based distro installation is always a plus. :)

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From MERCYFUL FATE@46:1/140 to ACCESS DENIED on Thu Jan 31 19:20:17 2019
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    Hello Gryphon,

    On 23 Aug 14 21:05, Gryphon wrote to Access Denied:

    My only attempt at installing Arch Linux was on my Pi. It seemed to install great, but then *after* the install it wanted to configure the
    swap space. But there was no more space on the drive to add it,
    because it was all used during the install. Is that a problem that is specific to the Pi install? Can it be worked into the initial
    installation, so that I don't have to configure swap after the fact?

    I don't have a Pi, so I can't tell you honestly if it's the Pi version specific, though I've never had a problem with anything related to swap on anything I've installed Arch wise.

    I've definitely never had to redo the swap configuration after the initial install. Was it maybe a typo when initially setting up your /etc/fstab? If not that, then maybe there is something odd with the Pi version. *shrug* Sorry I can't be more help on that one. :(
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Usualy a swap partition is created during the install process, did you not create one before hand, or was it too small in size. You might also be able
    to setup a swap file in some instances..

    https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Swap

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  • From BCW142@1:124/5013 to GRYPHON on Thu Jan 31 19:20:24 2019
    Re: ArchLinux
    By: Gryphon to Access Denied on Sat Aug 23 2014 21:05:00

    My only attempt at installing Arch Linux was on my Pi. It seemed to install great, but then *after* the install it wanted to configure the swap space. But there was no more space on the drive to add it, because it was all used during the install. Is that a problem that is specific to the Pi install? Can it be worked into the initial installation, so that I don't have to configure swap after the fact?
    Something is odd there, swap was no problem and I had installed Arch on two SD cards when I was frist using my Pi. I do find it odd they use SD space for swap, but they do with that weird /dev/mmcblk0pX stuff where X is 1-9, hmm my current swap doesn't show up that way with Raspbian, but it is only 102396. Was that on 4G, 8G, 16G, 32G? The current normal is 8G and it's enough for quite a bit. I just setup a B+ with 3T USB drive (MyBook). If you have hard drive space you can make a small swap partition with gparted or the like and use swapon and swapoff in the scripts to use it. I often do that by hand on my USB Stick installs as it depends on the system I boot with them and swap isn't used much except for web broswers.

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  • From GRYPHON@46:1/116 to BCW142 on Thu Jan 31 19:20:24 2019
    On 09/17/14, bcw142 said the following...

    Re: ArchLinux
    By: Gryphon to Access Denied on Sat Aug 23 2014 21:05:00

    My only attempt at installing Arch Linux was on my Pi. It seemed to in great, but then *after* the install it wanted to configure the swap spa But there was no more space on the drive to add it, because it was all during the install. Is that a problem that is specific to the Pi insta Can it be worked into the initial installation, so that I don't have to configure swap after the fact?
    Something is odd there, swap was no problem and I had installed Arch on two SD cards when I was frist using my Pi. I do find it odd they use SD space for swap, but they do with that weird /dev/mmcblk0pX stuff where X is 1-9, hmm my current swap doesn't show up that way with Raspbian, but
    it is only 102396. Was that on 4G, 8G, 16G, 32G? The current normal is
    8G and it's enough for quite a bit. I just setup a B+ with 3T USB drive (MyBook). If you have hard drive space you can make a small swap
    partition with gparted or the like and use swapon and swapoff in the scripts to use it. I often do that by hand on my USB Stick installs as
    it depends on the system I boot with them and swap isn't used much
    except for web broswers.

    Migrating to a different OS is on my plate of things to do, not just for the Pi, but for my BBS machine. I'm going to try to resintstall Arch on the Pi
    and see if I can catach any issues like this on my 2nd time around. I have an 8GB card, so there's plenty of room.

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