Hello All!


From the Anglo-Saxon Rune Poem (Rune version):

ᚠᛇᚻ᛫ᛒᛦᚦ᛫ᚠᚱᚩᚠᚢᚱ᛫ᚠᛁᚱᚪ᛫ᚷᛖᚻᚹᛦᛚ� ��ᚢᛗ
ᛋᚳᛖᚪᛚ᛫ᚦᛖᚪᚻ᛫ᛗᚪᚾᚾᚪ᛫ᚷᛖᚻᚹᛦᛚᚳ᛫ᛗ� ��ᚳᛚᚢᚾ᛫ᚻᛦᛏ᛫ᛞᚫᛚᚪᚾ
ᚷᛁᚠ᛫ᚻᛖ᛫ᚹᛁᛚᛖ᛫ᚠᚩᚱ᛫ᛞᚱᛁᚻᛏᚾᛖ᛫ᛞᚩ� ��ᛖᛋ᛫ᚻᛚᛇᛏᚪᚾ᛬

Kees

--- RaspberryPoint v0.1.141209 GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5--b20170303
* Origin: Some say UTF-8 is the solution, but is it? (2:280/5006.4)

Hello Kees,

On Thursday March 09 2017 21:15, you wrote to All:

From the Anglo-Saxon Rune Poem (Rune version):

ᚠᛇᚻ᛫ᛒᛦᚦ᛫ᚠᚱᚩᚠᚢᚱ᛫ᚠᛁᚱᚪ᛫ᚷᛖᚻ� ��ᛦᛚ� ��ᚢᛗ

I can't read it. Perhaps something went worng on your end:


=== Cut ===

CHKWF8 1.2 beta 20170309 UTF-8 well formed sequence test.
(C) 2015-2017, Michiel van der Vlist, PA0MMV (2:280/5555)

File: u.msg

26 lines read.
20 lines found with ASCII only.
0 lines found with well formed UTF-8 sequences.
6 lines found with an ill formed UTF-8 sequence.
0 lines found with a BOM.

=== Cut ===

It would seem it is not UTF-8...


Cheers, Michiel

--- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20110320
* Origin: Blijf Tønijn (2:280/5555)

Hello Kees!

09 Mar 17 21:15, I wrote to All:

That does not seem to work very well. (:

Hello All!

From the Anglo-Saxon Rune Poem (Rune version):

ᚠᛇᚻ᛫ᛒᛦᚦ᛫ᚠᚱᚩᚠᚢᚱ᛫ᚠᛁᚱᚪ᛫ᚷᛖᚻᚹ� �� ᛚ� ��ᚢᛗ

ᛋᚳᛖᚪᛚ᛫ᚦᛖᚪᚻ᛫ᛗᚪᚾᚾᚪ᛫ᚷᛖᚻᚹᛦᛚᚳ� �� ᛗ� ��ᚳᛚᚢᚾ᛫ᚻᛦᛏ᛫ᛞᚫᛚᚪᚾ

ᚷᛁᚠ᛫ᚻᛖ᛫ᚹᛁᛚᛖ᛫ᚠᚩᚱ᛫ᛞᚱᛁᚻᛏᚾᛖ᛫� �� ᚩ� ��ᛖᛋ᛫ᚻᛚᛇᛏᚪᚾ᛬

Kees

--- RaspberryPoint v0.1.141209 GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5--b20170303
* Origin: Some say UTF-8 is the solution, but is it? (2:280/5006.4)

Kees

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5
* Origin: As for me, all I know is that, I know nothing. (2:280/5003.4)

Hello Michiel!

I tried it again in a different echo and looked at the intermediate file
that is picked up by Golded. That file is still correct and definately at
UTF-8 file. So Golded is the culprit. I have not looked at it properly, but
I have the impression that the runes are represented in UTF-8 by 3byte codes.

I will think of a method to bypass golded and see what happens then.

09 Mar 17 21:42, you wrote to me:

ᚠᛇᚻ᛫ᛒᛦᚦ᛫ᚠᚱᚩᚠᚢᚱ᛫ᚠᛁᚱᚪ᛫ᚷᛖᚻ�
��ᛦᛚ� ��ᚢᛗ

MvdV> I can't read it. Perhaps something went worng on your end:


MvdV> === Cut ===

MvdV> CHKWF8 1.2 beta 20170309 UTF-8 well formed sequence test.
MvdV> (C) 2015-2017, Michiel van der Vlist, PA0MMV (2:280/5555)

MvdV> File: u.msg

MvdV> 26 lines read.
MvdV> 20 lines found with ASCII only.
MvdV> 0 lines found with well formed UTF-8 sequences.
MvdV> 6 lines found with an ill formed UTF-8 sequence.
MvdV> 0 lines found with a BOM.

MvdV> === Cut ===

MvdV> It would seem it is not UTF-8...


MvdV> Cheers, Michiel

MvdV> --- GoldED+/W32-MINGW 1.1.5-b20110320
MvdV> * Origin: Blijf Tønijn (2:280/5555)

Kees

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5
* Origin: As for me, all I know is that, I know nothing. (2:280/5003.4)

Greetings, Michiel!

From the Anglo-Saxon Rune Poem (Rune version):

I can't read it.

I doubt much people even have rune font installed, but here it is:

ᚠᛇᚻ·ᛒᚣᚦ·ᚠᚱᚩᚠᚢᚱ·ᚠᛁᚱᚪ·ᚷᛖᚻᚹᚣᛚᚳᚢᛗ:
ᛋᚳᛠᛚ·ᚦᛠᚻ·ᛗᚪᚾᚾᚪ·ᚷᛖᚻᚹᚣᛚᚳ·ᛗᛁᚳᛚᚢᚾ·ᚻᚣᛏ·ᛞᚫᛚᚪᚾ
ᚷᛁᚠ·ᚻᛖ·ᚹᛁᛚᛖ·ᚠᚩᚱ·ᛞᚱᛁᚻᛏᚾᛖ·ᛞᚩᛗᛖᛋ·ᚻᛚᛇᛏᚪᚾ⋮

ᚢᚱ·ᛒᚣᚦ·ᚪᚾᛗᚩᛞ·ᚩᚾᛞ·ᚩᚠᛖᚱᚻᚣᚱᚾᛖᛞ: ᚠᛖᛚᚪᚠᚱᛖᚳᚾᛖ·ᛞᛇᚱ:ᚠᛇᛏᛖᚦ·ᛗᛁᛞ·ᚻᚩᚱᚾᚢᛗ
ᛗᚫᚱᛖ·ᛗᚩᚱᛋᛏᚪᛈᚪ:ᚦᚫᛏ·ᛁᛋ·ᛗᚩᛞᛁᚷ·ᚹᚢᚻᛏ⋮

ᚦᚩᚱᚾ·ᛒᚣᚦ·ᚦᛠᚱᛚᛖ·ᛋᚳᛠᚱᛈ:ᚦᛖᚷᚾᚪ·ᚷᛖᚻᚹᚣᛚᚳᚢᛗ
ᚪᚾᚠᛖᛝ·ᚣᛋ·ᚣᚠᚣᛚ:ᚢᚾᚷᛖᛗᛖᛏᚢᛗ·ᚱᛖᚦᛖ ᛗᚪᚾᚾᚪ·ᚷᛖᚻᚹᛖᛚᚳᚢᛗ:ᚦᛖ·ᚻᛁᛗ·ᛗᛁᛞ·ᚱᛖᛋᛏᛖᚦ⋮

ᚩᛋ·ᛒᚣᚦ·ᚩᚱᛞᚠᚱᚢᛗᚪ·ᚫᛚᛖᚱᛖ·ᛋᛈᚱᚫᚳᛖ:
ᚹᛁᛋᛞᚩᛗᛖᛋ·ᚹᚱᚪᚦᚢ·ᚩᚾᛞ·ᚹᛁᛏᛖᚾᚪ·ᚠᚱᚩᚠᚢᚱ
ᚪᚾᛞ·ᛇᚱᛚᚪ·ᚷᛖᚻᚹᚪᛗ·ᛠᛞᚾᚣᛋ·ᚩᚾᛞ·ᛏᚩᚻᛁᚷᚻᛏ⋮

ᚱᚪᛞ·ᛒᚣᚦ·ᚩᚾ·ᚱᛖᚳᚣᛞᛖ·ᚱᛁᚾᚳᚪ·ᚷᛖᚻᚹᚣᛚᚳᚢᛗ
ᛋᛖᚠᛏᛖ·ᚩᚾᛞ·ᛋᚹᛁᚦᚻᚫᛏ:ᚦᚪᛗᚦᛖ·ᛋᛁᛏᛏᛖᚦ·ᚩᚾ·ᚢᚠᚪᚾ
ᛗᛠᚱᛖ·ᛗᚫᚷᛖᚾᚻᛠᚱᛞᚢᛗ·ᚩᚠᛖᚱ·ᛗᛁᛚᛈᚪᚦᚪᛋ⋮

ᚳᛖᚾ·ᛒᚣᚦ·ᚳᚹᛁᚳᛖᚱᚪ·ᚷᛖᚻᚹᚪᛗ:ᚳᚢᚦ·ᚩᚾ·ᚠᚣᚱᛖ
ᛒᛚᚪᚳ·ᚩᚾᛞ·ᛒᛇᚱᚻᛏᛚᛁᚳ:ᛒᚣᚱᚾᛖᚦ·ᚩᚠᛏᚢᛋᛏ
ᚦᚫᚱ·ᚻᛁ·ᚫᚦᛖᛚᛁᛝᚪᛋ·ᛁᚾᚾᛖ·ᚱᛖᛋᛏᚪᚦ⋮

ᚷᚣᚠᚢ·ᚷᚢᛗᛖᚾᚪ·ᛒᚣᚦ·ᚷᛚᛖᚾᚷ·ᚪᚾᛞ·ᚻᛖᚱᛖᚾᚣᛋ:
ᚹᚱᚪᚦᚢ·ᚪᚾᛞ·ᚹᚣᚱᚦᛋᚳᚣᛈᛖ·ᚪᚾᛞ·ᚹᚱᚫᚳᚾᛖ·ᚷᛖᚻᚹᚪᛗ
ᚪᚱ·ᚪᚾᛞ·ᚫᛏᚹᛁᛋᛏ:ᚦᛖ·ᛒᚣᚦ·ᚩᚦᚱᚪ·ᛚᛠᛋ⋮

ᚹᛖᚾᚾᛖ·ᛒᚱᚢᚳᛖᚦ:ᚦᛖ·ᚳᚪᚾ·ᚹᛠᚾᚪ·ᛚᚣᛏ ᛋᚪᚱᛖᛋ·ᚪᚾᛞ·ᛋᚩᚱᚷᛖ·ᚪᚾᛞ·ᚻᛁᛗ·ᛋᚣᛚᚠᚪ·ᚻᚫᚠᚦ
ᛒᛚᚫᛞ·ᚪᚾᛞ·ᛒᛚᚣᛋᛋᛖ·ᚪᚾᛞ·ᛠᚳ·ᛒᚣᚱᚷᚪ·ᚷᛖᚾᛁᚷᚻᛏ⋮

ᚻᚫᚷᛚ·ᛒᚣᚦ·ᚻᚹᛁᛏᚢᛋᛏ·ᚳᚩᚱᚾᚪ: ᚻᚹᚣᚱᚠᛏ·ᚻᛁᛏ·ᚩᚠ·ᚻᛇᚠᚩᚾᛖᛋ·ᛚᚣᚠᛏᛖ: ᚹᛠᛚᚳᚪᚦ·ᚻᛁᛏ·ᚹᛁᚾᛞᛖᛋ·ᛋᚳᚢᚱᚪ:ᚹᛇᚱᚦᛖᚦ·ᚻᛁ·ᛏᚩ·ᚹᚫᛏᛖᚱᛖ·ᛋᚣᚦᚦᚪᚾ⋮

ᚾᚣᛞ·ᛒᚣᚦ·ᚾᛠᚱᚢ·ᚩᚾ·ᛒᚱᛇᛋᛏᚪ: ᚹᛇᚱᚦᛖᚦ·ᚻᛁ·ᚦᛠᚻ·ᚩᚠᛏ·ᚾᛁᚦᚪ·ᛒᛠᚱᚾᚢᛗ
ᛏᚩ·ᚻᛖᛚᛈᛖ·ᚪᚾᛞ·ᛏᚩ·ᚻᚫᛚᛖ·ᚷᛖᚻᚹᚫᚦᚱᛖ·ᚷᛁᚠ·ᚻᛁ·ᚻᛁᛋ·ᚻᛚᚣᛋᛏᚪᚦ·ᚫᚱᚩᚱ⋮

ᛁᛋ·ᛒᚣᚦ·ᚩᚠᛖᚱᚳᛠᛚᛞ:ᚢᚾᚷᛖᛗᛖᛏᚢᛗ·ᛋᛚᛁᛞᚩᚱ
ᚷᛚᛁᛋᚾᚪᚦ·ᚷᛚᚫᛋᚻᛚᚢᛏᛏᚢᚱ·ᚷᛁᛗᛗᚢᛗ·ᚷᛖᛚᛁᚳᚢᛋᛏ:
ᚠᛚᚩᚱ·ᚠᚩᚱᛋᛏᛖ·ᚷᛖᚹᚩᚱᚢᚻᛏ:ᚠᚫᚷᛖᚱ·ᚪᚾᛋᚣᚾᛖ⋮

ᛄᛖᚱ·ᛒᚣᚦ·ᚷᚢᛗᛖᚾᚪ·ᚻᛁᚻᛏ:ᚦᚩᚾᚾᛖ·ᚷᚩᛞ·ᛚᚫᛏᛖᚦ
ᚻᚪᛚᛁᚷ·ᚻᛇᚠᚩᚾᛖᛋ·ᚳᚣᚾᛁᚾᚷ:ᚻᚱᚢᛋᚪᚾ·ᛋᚣᛚᛚᚪᚾ
ᛒᛇᚱᚻᛏᛖ·ᛒᛚᛖᛞᚪ·ᛒᛇᚱᚾᚢᛗ·ᚩᚾᛞ·ᚦᛠᚱᚠᚢᛗ⋮

ᛇᚻ·ᛒᚣᚦ·ᚢᛏᚪᚾ·ᚢᚾᛋᛗᛖᚦᛖ·ᛏᚱᛇᚹ: ᚻᛠᚱᛞ·ᚻᚱᚢᛋᚪᚾ·ᚠᚫᛋᛏ:ᚻᚣᚱᛞᛖ·ᚠᚣᚱᛖᛋ:
ᚹᚣᚱᛏᚱᚢᛗᚢᚾ·ᚢᚾᛞᛖᚱᚹᚱᛖᚦᚣᛞ:ᚹᚣᚾ·ᚩᚾ·ᛖᚦᛚᛖ⋮

ᛈᛇᚱᚦ·ᛒᚣᚦ·ᛋᚣᛗᛒᛚᛖ·ᛈᛚᛖᚷᚪ·ᚪᚾᛞ·ᚻᛚᛖᚻᛏᛖᚱ
ᚹᛚᚪᚾᚳᚢᛗ·ᚩᚾ·ᛗᛁᛞᛞᚢᛗ:ᚦᚪᚱ·ᚹᛁᚷᚪᚾ·ᛋᛁᛏᛏᚪᚦ
ᚩᚾ·ᛒᛇᚱᛋᛖᛚᛖ·ᛒᛚᛁᚦᛖ·ᚫᛏᛋᚩᛗᚾᛖ⋮

ᛇᛚᚻᛋᛖᚳᚷ·ᛠᚱᛞ·ᚻᚫᚠᚦ·ᚩᚠᛏᚢᛋᛏ·ᚩᚾ·ᚠᛖᚾᚾᛖ
ᚹᛖᛉᛖᚦ·ᚩᚾ·ᚹᚪᛏᚢᚱᛖ:ᚹᚢᚾᛞᚪᚦ·ᚷᚱᛁᛗᛗᛖ:
ᛒᛚᚩᛞᛖ·ᛒᚱᛖᚾᛖᚦ·ᛒᛇᚱᚾᚪ·ᚷᛖᚻᚹᚣᛚᚳᚾᛖ·ᚦᛖ·ᚻᛁᛗ·ᚫᚾᛁᚷᚾᛖ·ᚩᚾᚠᛖᚾᚷ·ᚷᛖᛞᛖᚦ⋮

ᛋᛁᚷᛖᛚ·ᛋᛖᛗᚪᚾᚾᚢᛗ·ᛋᚣᛗᛒᛚᛖ·ᛒᛁᚦ·ᚩᚾ·ᚻᛁᚻᛏᛖ:
ᚦᚩᚾᚾᛖ·ᚻᛁ·ᚻᛁᚾᛖ·ᚠᛖᚱᛁᚪᚦ·ᚩᚠᛖᚱ·ᚠᛁᛋᚳᛖᛋ·ᛒᛖᚦ:
ᚩᚦ·ᚻᛁ·ᛒᚱᛁᛗᚻᛖᛝᛖᛋᛏ·ᛒᚱᛁᚾᚷᛖᚦ·ᛏᚩ·ᛚᚪᚾᛞᛖ⋮

ᛏᛁᚱ·ᛒᛁᚦ·ᛏᚪᚳᚾᚪ·ᛋᚢᛗ:ᚻᛠᛚᛞᛖᚦ·ᛏᚱᚣᚹᚪ·ᚹᛖᛚ
ᚹᛁᚦ·ᚫᚦᛖᛚᛁᛝᚪᛋ:ᚪ·ᛒᛁᚦ·ᚩᚾ·ᚠᚫᚱᚣᛚᛞᛖ
ᚩᚠᛖᚱ·ᚾᛁᚻᛏᚪ·ᚷᛖᚾᛁᛈᚢ·ᚾᚫᚠᚱᛖ·ᛋᚹᛁᚳᛖᚦ⋮

ᛒᛇᚱᚳ·ᛒᚣᚦ·ᛒᛚᛖᛞᚪ·ᛚᛠᛋ:ᛒᛖᚱᛖᚦ·ᛖᚠᚾᛖ·ᛋᚹᚪ·ᚦᛠᚻ
ᛏᚪᚾᚪᛋ·ᛒᚢᛏᚪᚾ·ᛏᚢᛞᛞᛖᚱ:ᛒᛁᚦ·ᚩᚾ·ᛏᛖᛚᚷᚢᛗ·ᚹᛚᛁᛏᛁᚷ:
ᚻᛠᚻ·ᚩᚾ·ᚻᛖᛚᛗᛖ·ᚻᚱᚣᛋᛏᛖᛞ·ᚠᚫᚷᛖᚱᛖ:ᚷᛖᛚᚩᛞᛖᚾ·ᛚᛠᚠᚢᛗ:ᛚᚣᚠᛏᛖ·ᚷᛖᛏᛖᛝᛖ⋮

ᛖᚻ·ᛒᚣᚦ·ᚠᚩᚱ·ᛇᚱᛚᚢᛗ·ᚫᚦᛖᛚᛁᛝᚪ·ᚹᚣᚾ:
ᚻᚩᚱᛋ·ᚻᚩᚠᚢᛗ·ᚹᛚᚪᚾᚳ:ᚦᚫᚱ·ᚻᛁᛗ·ᚻᚫᛚᛖᚦ·ᚣᛗᛒᛖ
ᚹᛖᛚᛖᚷᛖ·ᚩᚾ·ᚹᛁᚳᚷᚢᛗ·ᚹᚱᛁᛉᛚᚪᚦ·ᛋᛈᚱᚫᚳᛖ·ᚪᚾᛞ·ᛒᛁᚦ·ᚢᚾᛋᛏᚣᛚᛚᚢᛗ·ᚫᚠᚱᛖ·ᚠᚱᚩᚠᚢᚱ⋮

ᛗᚪᚾ·ᛒᚣᚦ·ᚩᚾ·ᛗᚣᚱᚷᚦᛖ·ᚻᛁᛋ·ᛗᚪᚷᚪᚾ·ᛚᛇᚠ:
ᛋᚳᛠᛚ·ᚦᛠᚻ·ᚪᚾᚱᚪ·ᚷᛖᚻᚹᚣᛚᚳ·ᚩᚦᚱᚢᛗ·ᛋᚹᛁᚳᚪᚾ:
ᚠᚩᚱᚦᚢᛗ·ᛞᚱᛁᚻᛏᛖᚾ·ᚹᚣᛚᛖ·ᛞᚩᛗᛖ·ᛋᛁᚾᛖ·ᚦᚫᛏ·ᛠᚱᛗᛖ·ᚠᛚᚫᛋᚳ·ᛇᚱᚦᚪᚾ·ᛒᛖᛏᚫᚳᚪᚾ⋮

ᛚᚪᚷᚢ·ᛒᚣᚦ·ᛚᛇᛞᚢᛗ·ᛚᚪᛝᛋᚢᛗ·ᚷᛖᚦᚢᚻᛏ:
ᚷᛁᚠ·ᚻᛁ·ᛋᚳᚢᛚᚢᚾ·ᚾᛖᚦᚪᚾ·ᚩᚾ·ᚾᚪᚳᚪᚾ·ᛏᛠᛚᛏᚢᛗ
ᚪᚾᛞ·ᚻᛁ·ᛋᚫᚣᚦᚪ·ᛋᚹᚣᚦᛖ·ᛒᚱᛖᚷᚪᚦ·ᚪᚾᛞ·ᛋᛖ·ᛒᚱᛁᛗᚻᛖᛝᛖᛋᛏ·ᛒᚱᛁᛞᛚᛖᛋ·ᚾᛖ·ᚷᚣᛗᛖᚦ⋮

ᛁᛝ·ᚹᚪᛋ·ᚫᚱᛖᛋᛏ·ᛗᛁᛞ·ᛠᛋᛏᛞᛖᚾᚢᛗ ᚷᛖᛋᛖᚹᛖᚾ·ᛋᛖᚳᚷᚢᚾ:ᚩᚦ·ᚻᛖ·ᛋᛁᚦᚦᚪᚾ·ᛖᛋᛏ
ᚩᚠᛖᚱ·ᚹᚫᚷ·ᚷᛖᚹᚪᛏ:ᚹᚫᚾ·ᚫᚠᛏᛖᚱ·ᚱᚪᚾ:ᚦᚢᛋ·ᚻᛠᚱᛞᛁᛝᚪᛋ·ᚦᚩᚾᛖ·ᚻᚫᛚᛖ·ᚾᛖᛗᛞᚢᚾ⋮

ᛟᚦᛖᛚ·ᛒᚣᚦ·ᚩᚠᛖᚱᛚᛇᚠ·ᚫᚷᚻᚹᚣᛚᚳᚢᛗ·ᛗᛖᚾ:
ᚷᛁᚠ·ᚻᛁ·ᛗᚩᛏ·ᚦᚫᚱ·ᚱᛁᚻᛏᛖᛋ·ᚪᚾᛞ·ᚷᛖᚱᚣᛋᚾᛖᚪ·ᚩᚾ
ᛒᚱᚢᚳᚪᚾ·ᚩᚾ·ᛒᚩᛚᛞᛖ·ᛒᛚᛠᛞᚢᛗ·ᚩᚠᛏᚪᛋᛏ⋮

ᛞᚫᚷ·ᛒᚣᚦ·ᛞᚱᛁᚻᛏᚾᛖᛋ·ᛋᚩᚾᛞ:ᛞᛇᚱᛖ·ᛗᚪᚾᚾᚢᛗ:
ᛗᚫᚱᛖ·ᛗᛖᛏᚩᛞᛖᛋ·ᛚᛇᚻᛏ:ᛗᚣᚱᚷᚦ·ᚪᚾᛞ·ᛏᚩᚻᛁᚻᛏ
ᛠᛞᚷᚢᛗ·ᚪᚾᛞ·ᛠᚱᛗᚢᛗ:ᛠᛚᛚᚢᛗ·ᛒᚱᛁᚳᛖ⋮

ᚪᚳ·ᛒᚣᚦ·ᚩᚾ·ᛇᚱᚦᚪᚾ·ᛖᛚᛞᚪ·ᛒᚣᚱᚾᚢᛗ ᚠᛚᚫᛋᚳᛖᛋ·ᚠᚩᛞᚩᚱ·ᚠᛖᚱᛖᚦ·ᚷᛖᛚᚩᛗᛖ ᚩᚠᛖᚱ·ᚷᚪᚾᚩᛏᛖᛋ·ᛒᚫᚦ:ᚷᚪᚱᛋᛖᚳᚷ·ᚠᚪᚾᛞᚪᚦ·ᚻᚹᚫᚦᛖᚱ·ᚪᚳ·ᚻᚫᛒᛒᛖ·ᚫᚦᛖᛚᛖ·ᛏᚱᛇᚹᛖ⋮

ᚫᛋᚳ·ᛒᛁᚦ·ᚩᚠᛖᚱᚻᛠᚻ:ᛖᛚᛞᚢᛗ·ᛞᚣᚱᛖ ᛋᛏᛁᚦ·ᚩᚾ·ᛋᛏᚪᚦᚢᛚᛖ:ᛋᛏᛖᛞᛖ·ᚱᛁᚻᛏᛖ·ᚻᚣᛚᛏ:
ᚦᛠᚻ·ᚻᛁᛗ·ᚠᛇᚻᛏᚪᚾ·ᚩᚾ·ᚠᛁᚱᚪᛋ·ᛗᚩᚾᛁᚷᛖ⋮

ᚣᚱ·ᛒᚣᚦ·ᚫᚦᛖᛚᛁᛝᚪ·ᚪᚾᛞ·ᛇᚱᛚᚪ·ᚷᛖᚻᚹᚫᛋ
ᚹᚣᚾ·ᚪᚾᛞ·ᚹᚣᚱᚦᛗᚣᚾᛞ:ᛒᚣᚦ·ᚩᚾ·ᚹᛁᚳᚷᛖ·ᚠᚫᚷᛖᚱ:
ᚠᚫᛋᛏᛚᛁᚳ·ᚩᚾ·ᚠᚫᚱᛖᛚᛞᛖ:ᚠᚣᚱᛞᚷᛠᛏᛖᚹᚪ·ᛋᚢᛗ⋮

ᛡᚱ·ᛒᚣᚦ·ᛠᚠᛁᛉ·ᚪᚾᛞ·ᚦᛠᚻ·ᚪ·ᛒᚱᚢᚳᛖᚦ ᚠᚩᛞᚱᛖᛋ·ᚩᚾ·ᚠᚩᛚᛞᚪᚾ:ᚻᚪᚠᚪᚦ·ᚠᚫᚷᛖᚱᚾᛖ·ᛠᚱᛞ
ᚹᚫᛏᚱᛖ·ᛒᛖᚹᚩᚱᛈᛖᚾ:ᚦᚫᚱ·ᚻᛖ·ᚹᚣᚾᚾᚢᛗ·ᛚᛇᚠᚪᚦ⋮

ᛠᚱ·ᛒᚣᚦ·ᛖᚷᛚᛖ·ᛇᚱᛚᚪ·ᚷᛖᚻᚹᚣᛚᚳᚢᚾ: ᚦᚩᚾᚾᛖ·ᚠᚫᛋᛏᛚᛁᚳᛖ·ᚠᛚᚫᛋᚳ·ᚩᚾᚷᛁᚾᚾᛖᚦ:ᚻᚱᚪᚹ·ᚳᚩᛚᛡᚾ:ᚻᚱᚢᛋᚪᚾ:ᚳᛇᛋᚪᚾ
ᛒᛚᚪᚳ·ᛏᚩ·ᚷᛖᛒᛖᛞᛞᚪᚾ:ᛒᛚᛖᛞᚪ·ᚷᛖᛞᚱᛇᛋᚪᚦ·ᚹᚣᚾᚾᚪ·ᚷᛖᚹᛁᛏᚪᚦ:ᚹᛖᚱᚪ·ᚷᛖᛋᚹᛁᚳᚪᚦ⋮

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Hello Kees,

On Thursday March 09 2017 22:51, you wrote to me:

I tried it again in a different echo and looked at the intermediate
file that is picked up by Golded. That file is still correct and definately at UTF-8 file. So Golded is the culprit. I have not looked
at it properly, but I have the impression that the runes are
represented in UTF-8 by 3byte codes.

Three byte codes should be no problem. The Euro sign (�) is coded in three bytes.


Cheers, Michiel

--- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20161221
* Origin: Blijf Tønijn (2:280/5555)

Hello Konstantin!

Looks good on this side, on a Python based message reader.

10 Mar 17 09:56, you wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

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I understand that you use Claws as a client, but what NNTP server software do
you use and what gateway between NNTP and HTP?

Kees

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5
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Hello Kees,

On Thursday March 09 2017 22:51, you wrote to me:

I tried it again in a different echo and looked at the intermediate
file that is picked up by Golded. That file is still correct and definately at UTF-8 file. So Golded is the culprit. I have not looked
at it properly, but I have the impression that the runes are
represented in UTF-8 by 3byte codes.

Three byte codes should be no problem. The Euro sign (€) is coded in three


Cheers, Michiel

--- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20161221
* Origin: Blijf Tønijn (2:280/5555)

Konnichi wa, *Kees-kun*! Aogu manako oyobi uketamawaru waga koe!
Tomodachi _Kees van Eeten_ tsukuru airon _Konstantin Kuzov_
Nichiji - /*10 ��� 17 11:20*/, Daizai - /*Poetry for who can read it.*/:

--- Claws Mail 3.14.0 (GTK+ 2.24.30; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
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I understand that you use Claws as a client, but what NNTP server software do you use and what gateway between NNTP and HTP?

On 2:5019/40 I'm currently using heavily modified version of jamnntpd. It uses smapi library (current 1.9) from hpt project and it works directly with fido databases without any middleware gating. it can use hpt configuration files as a source for echoes/users (with name/address lock). And also supports iconv in addition to old xlat-tables codepage translations. If I remember right there are also some additions like sasl/gssapi authentication and other various tweaks for weird nntp clients. Also as a bonus it present FGHI url in every message. ^_^

There were also nntp server on 2:5019/400 (https://fido.g0x.ru/) which used mysql database as a backend for echoes/users and also supported UTF-8 fully back then, but source codes of that part were lost.
Maybe one day I will find some time and desire to finish project started in 2011 for fullfeatured gating software in C which stores everything in sql database (postgresql + pgsql) and can provide classic fido access, nntp and modern ajax-like web interface with clean api for 3d-party applications.

Ganbatte, *Kees*!

[_N0SF3R@TU_]
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Hello Konstantin!

10 Mar 17 23:09, you wrote to me:

Konnichi wa, *Kees-kun*! Aogu manako oyobi uketamawaru waga koe!
Tomodachi _Kees van Eeten_ tsukuru airon _Konstantin Kuzov_
Nichiji - /*10 Мар 17 11:20*/, Daizai - /*Poetry for who can read it.*/:

I will take it that your Japanese words mean well. ;)

Thanks for your extensive answer.

Kees

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5
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Hello Konstantin!

10 Mar 17 23:09, you wrote to me:

On 2:5019/40 I'm currently using heavily modified version of jamnntpd. It uses smapi library (current 1.9) from hpt project and it works directly

Your words inspired me to look at what the runes would look like on an other
system of mine. I have a RaspberryPi running Binkd/Crashmail/Jamnntpd.

When I connected with the newsreader built in Thunderbird, the Runes were
properly.

That encouraged me to install smapinntpd on another RapsberryPi, 2:280/5006
I run a directory connected Husky/Golded point with a squish Database.
There I installed smapinntpd. That repeated the result theat was obtained with
Jamnntpd as can be expected.

With that done the next challenge is to get the reverse route going, as well
as making smapinntpd IPv6 aware.

Kees

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5
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Hello Konstatin,

I am misusing your message to Michiel as a test.


On 03/10/2017 10:56 AM, Konstantin Kuzov -> Michiel van der Vlist wrote:

Greetings, Michiel!

From the Anglo-Saxon Rune Poem (Rune version):

I can't read it.

I doubt much people even have rune font installed, but here it is:

ᚠᛇᚻ·ᛒᚣᚦ·ᚠᚱᚩᚠᚢᚱ·ᚠᛁᚱᚪ·ᚷᛖᚻᚹᚣᛚᚳᚢᛗ:
ᛋᚳᛠᛚ·ᚦᛠᚻ·ᛗᚪᚾᚾᚪ·ᚷᛖᚻᚹᚣᛚᚳ·ᛗᛁᚳᛚᚢᚾ·ᚻᚣᛏ·ᛞᚫᛚᚪᚾ
ᚷᛁᚠ·ᚻᛖ·ᚹᛁᛚᛖ·ᚠᚩᚱ·ᛞᚱᛁᚻᛏᚾᛖ·ᛞᚩᛗᛖᛋ·ᚻᛚᛇᛏᚪᚾ⋮

ᚢᚱ·ᛒᚣᚦ·ᚪᚾᛗᚩᛞ·ᚩᚾᛞ·ᚩᚠᛖᚱᚻᚣᚱᚾᛖᛞ:
ᚠᛖᛚᚪᚠᚱᛖᚳᚾᛖ·ᛞᛇᚱ:ᚠᛇᛏᛖᚦ·ᛗᛁᛞ·ᚻᚩᚱᚾᚢᛗ
ᛗᚫᚱᛖ·ᛗᚩᚱᛋᛏᚪᛈᚪ:ᚦᚫᛏ·ᛁᛋ·ᛗᚩᛞᛁᚷ·ᚹᚢᚻᛏ⋮

ᚦᚩᚱᚾ·ᛒᚣᚦ·ᚦᛠᚱᛚᛖ·ᛋᚳᛠᚱᛈ:ᚦᛖᚷᚾᚪ·ᚷᛖᚻᚹᚣᛚᚳᚢᛗ
ᚪᚾᚠᛖᛝ·ᚣᛋ·ᚣᚠᚣᛚ:ᚢᚾᚷᛖᛗᛖᛏᚢᛗ·ᚱᛖᚦᛖ
ᛗᚪᚾᚾᚪ·ᚷᛖᚻᚹᛖᛚᚳᚢᛗ:ᚦᛖ·ᚻᛁᛗ·ᛗᛁᛞ·ᚱᛖᛋᛏᛖᚦ⋮

ᚩᛋ·ᛒᚣᚦ·ᚩᚱᛞᚠᚱᚢᛗᚪ·ᚫᛚᛖᚱᛖ·ᛋᛈᚱᚫᚳᛖ:
ᚹᛁᛋᛞᚩᛗᛖᛋ·ᚹᚱᚪᚦᚢ·ᚩᚾᛞ·ᚹᛁᛏᛖᚾᚪ·ᚠᚱᚩᚠᚢᚱ
ᚪᚾᛞ·ᛇᚱᛚᚪ·ᚷᛖᚻᚹᚪᛗ·ᛠᛞᚾᚣᛋ·ᚩᚾᛞ·ᛏᚩᚻᛁᚷᚻᛏ⋮

ᚱᚪᛞ·ᛒᚣᚦ·ᚩᚾ·ᚱᛖᚳᚣᛞᛖ·ᚱᛁᚾᚳᚪ·ᚷᛖᚻᚹᚣᛚᚳᚢᛗ
ᛋᛖᚠᛏᛖ·ᚩᚾᛞ·ᛋᚹᛁᚦᚻᚫᛏ:ᚦᚪᛗᚦᛖ·ᛋᛁᛏᛏᛖᚦ·ᚩᚾ·ᚢᚠᚪᚾ
ᛗᛠᚱᛖ·ᛗᚫᚷᛖᚾᚻᛠᚱᛞᚢᛗ·ᚩᚠᛖᚱ·ᛗᛁᛚᛈᚪᚦᚪᛋ⋮

ᚳᛖᚾ·ᛒᚣᚦ·ᚳᚹᛁᚳᛖᚱᚪ·ᚷᛖᚻᚹᚪᛗ:ᚳᚢᚦ·ᚩᚾ·ᚠᚣᚱᛖ
ᛒᛚᚪᚳ·ᚩᚾᛞ·ᛒᛇᚱᚻᛏᛚᛁᚳ:ᛒᚣᚱᚾᛖᚦ·ᚩᚠᛏᚢᛋᛏ
ᚦᚫᚱ·ᚻᛁ·ᚫᚦᛖᛚᛁᛝᚪᛋ·ᛁᚾᚾᛖ·ᚱᛖᛋᛏᚪᚦ⋮

ᚷᚣᚠᚢ·ᚷᚢᛗᛖᚾᚪ·ᛒᚣᚦ·ᚷᛚᛖᚾᚷ·ᚪᚾᛞ·ᚻᛖᚱᛖᚾᚣᛋ:
ᚹᚱᚪᚦᚢ·ᚪᚾᛞ·ᚹᚣᚱᚦᛋᚳᚣᛈᛖ·ᚪᚾᛞ·ᚹᚱᚫᚳᚾᛖ·ᚷᛖᚻᚹᚪᛗ
ᚪᚱ·ᚪᚾᛞ·ᚫᛏᚹᛁᛋᛏ:ᚦᛖ·ᛒᚣᚦ·ᚩᚦᚱᚪ·ᛚᛠᛋ⋮

ᚹᛖᚾᚾᛖ·ᛒᚱᚢᚳᛖᚦ:ᚦᛖ·ᚳᚪᚾ·ᚹᛠᚾᚪ·ᛚᚣᛏ
ᛋᚪᚱᛖᛋ·ᚪᚾᛞ·ᛋᚩᚱᚷᛖ·ᚪᚾᛞ·ᚻᛁᛗ·ᛋᚣᛚᚠᚪ·ᚻᚫᚠᚦ
ᛒᛚᚫᛞ·ᚪᚾᛞ·ᛒᛚᚣᛋᛋᛖ·ᚪᚾᛞ·ᛠᚳ·ᛒᚣᚱᚷᚪ·ᚷᛖᚾᛁᚷᚻᛏ⋮

ᚻᚫᚷᛚ·ᛒᚣᚦ·ᚻᚹᛁᛏᚢᛋᛏ·ᚳᚩᚱᚾᚪ: ᚻᚹᚣᚱᚠᛏ·ᚻᛁᛏ·ᚩᚠ·ᚻᛇᚠᚩᚾᛖᛋ·ᛚᚣᚠᛏᛖ:
ᚹᛠᛚᚳᚪᚦ·ᚻᛁᛏ·ᚹᛁᚾᛞᛖᛋ·ᛋᚳᚢᚱᚪ:ᚹᛇᚱᚦᛖᚦ·ᚻᛁ·ᛏᚩ·ᚹᚫᛏᛖᚱᛖ·ᛋᚣᚦᚦᚪᚾ⋮

ᚾᚣᛞ·ᛒᚣᚦ·ᚾᛠᚱᚢ·ᚩᚾ·ᛒᚱᛇᛋᛏᚪ: ᚹᛇᚱᚦᛖᚦ·ᚻᛁ·ᚦᛠᚻ·ᚩᚠᛏ·ᚾᛁᚦᚪ·ᛒᛠᚱᚾᚢᛗ
ᛏᚩ·ᚻᛖᛚᛈᛖ·ᚪᚾᛞ·ᛏᚩ·ᚻᚫᛚᛖ·ᚷᛖᚻᚹᚫᚦᚱᛖ·ᚷᛁᚠ·ᚻᛁ·ᚻᛁᛋ·ᚻᛚᚣᛋᛏᚪᚦ·ᚫᚱᚩᚱ⋮

ᛁᛋ·ᛒᚣᚦ·ᚩᚠᛖᚱᚳᛠᛚᛞ:ᚢᚾᚷᛖᛗᛖᛏᚢᛗ·ᛋᛚᛁᛞᚩᚱ
ᚷᛚᛁᛋᚾᚪᚦ·ᚷᛚᚫᛋᚻᛚᚢᛏᛏᚢᚱ·ᚷᛁᛗᛗᚢᛗ·ᚷᛖᛚᛁᚳᚢᛋᛏ:
ᚠᛚᚩᚱ·ᚠᚩᚱᛋᛏᛖ·ᚷᛖᚹᚩᚱᚢᚻᛏ:ᚠᚫᚷᛖᚱ·ᚪᚾᛋᚣᚾᛖ⋮

ᛄᛖᚱ·ᛒᚣᚦ·ᚷᚢᛗᛖᚾᚪ·ᚻᛁᚻᛏ:ᚦᚩᚾᚾᛖ·ᚷᚩᛞ·ᛚᚫᛏᛖᚦ
ᚻᚪᛚᛁᚷ·ᚻᛇᚠᚩᚾᛖᛋ·ᚳᚣᚾᛁᚾᚷ:ᚻᚱᚢᛋᚪᚾ·ᛋᚣᛚᛚᚪᚾ
ᛒᛇᚱᚻᛏᛖ·ᛒᛚᛖᛞᚪ·ᛒᛇᚱᚾᚢᛗ·ᚩᚾᛞ·ᚦᛠᚱᚠᚢᛗ⋮

ᛇᚻ·ᛒᚣᚦ·ᚢᛏᚪᚾ·ᚢᚾᛋᛗᛖᚦᛖ·ᛏᚱᛇᚹ: ᚻᛠᚱᛞ·ᚻᚱᚢᛋᚪᚾ·ᚠᚫᛋᛏ:ᚻᚣᚱᛞᛖ·ᚠᚣᚱᛖᛋ:
ᚹᚣᚱᛏᚱᚢᛗᚢᚾ·ᚢᚾᛞᛖᚱᚹᚱᛖᚦᚣᛞ:ᚹᚣᚾ·ᚩᚾ·ᛖᚦᛚᛖ⋮

ᛈᛇᚱᚦ·ᛒᚣᚦ·ᛋᚣᛗᛒᛚᛖ·ᛈᛚᛖᚷᚪ·ᚪᚾᛞ·ᚻᛚᛖᚻᛏᛖᚱ
ᚹᛚᚪᚾᚳᚢᛗ·ᚩᚾ·ᛗᛁᛞᛞᚢᛗ:ᚦᚪᚱ·ᚹᛁᚷᚪᚾ·ᛋᛁᛏᛏᚪᚦ
ᚩᚾ·ᛒᛇᚱᛋᛖᛚᛖ·ᛒᛚᛁᚦᛖ·ᚫᛏᛋᚩᛗᚾᛖ⋮

ᛇᛚᚻᛋᛖᚳᚷ·ᛠᚱᛞ·ᚻᚫᚠᚦ·ᚩᚠᛏᚢᛋᛏ·ᚩᚾ·ᚠᛖᚾᚾᛖ
ᚹᛖᛉᛖᚦ·ᚩᚾ·ᚹᚪᛏᚢᚱᛖ:ᚹᚢᚾᛞᚪᚦ·ᚷᚱᛁᛗᛗᛖ:
ᛒᛚᚩᛞᛖ·ᛒᚱᛖᚾᛖᚦ·ᛒᛇᚱᚾᚪ·ᚷᛖᚻᚹᚣᛚᚳᚾᛖ·ᚦᛖ·ᚻᛁᛗ·ᚫᚾᛁᚷᚾᛖ·ᚩᚾᚠᛖᚾᚷ·ᚷᛖᛞᛖᚦ⋮

ᛋᛁᚷᛖᛚ·ᛋᛖᛗᚪᚾᚾᚢᛗ·ᛋᚣᛗᛒᛚᛖ·ᛒᛁᚦ·ᚩᚾ·ᚻᛁᚻᛏᛖ:
ᚦᚩᚾᚾᛖ·ᚻᛁ·ᚻᛁᚾᛖ·ᚠᛖᚱᛁᚪᚦ·ᚩᚠᛖᚱ·ᚠᛁᛋᚳᛖᛋ·ᛒᛖᚦ:
ᚩᚦ·ᚻᛁ·ᛒᚱᛁᛗᚻᛖᛝᛖᛋᛏ·ᛒᚱᛁᚾᚷᛖᚦ·ᛏᚩ·ᛚᚪᚾᛞᛖ⋮

ᛏᛁᚱ·ᛒᛁᚦ·ᛏᚪᚳᚾᚪ·ᛋᚢᛗ:ᚻᛠᛚᛞᛖᚦ·ᛏᚱᚣᚹᚪ·ᚹᛖᛚ
ᚹᛁᚦ·ᚫᚦᛖᛚᛁᛝᚪᛋ:ᚪ·ᛒᛁᚦ·ᚩᚾ·ᚠᚫᚱᚣᛚᛞᛖ
ᚩᚠᛖᚱ·ᚾᛁᚻᛏᚪ·ᚷᛖᚾᛁᛈᚢ·ᚾᚫᚠᚱᛖ·ᛋᚹᛁᚳᛖᚦ⋮

ᛒᛇᚱᚳ·ᛒᚣᚦ·ᛒᛚᛖᛞᚪ·ᛚᛠᛋ:ᛒᛖᚱᛖᚦ·ᛖᚠᚾᛖ·ᛋᚹᚪ·ᚦᛠᚻ
ᛏᚪᚾᚪᛋ·ᛒᚢᛏᚪᚾ·ᛏᚢᛞᛞᛖᚱ:ᛒᛁᚦ·ᚩᚾ·ᛏᛖᛚᚷᚢᛗ·ᚹᛚᛁᛏᛁᚷ:
ᚻᛠᚻ·ᚩᚾ·ᚻᛖᛚᛗᛖ·ᚻᚱᚣᛋᛏᛖᛞ·ᚠᚫᚷᛖᚱᛖ:ᚷᛖᛚᚩᛞᛖᚾ·ᛚᛠᚠᚢᛗ:ᛚᚣᚠᛏᛖ·ᚷᛖᛏᛖᛝᛖ⋮

ᛖᚻ·ᛒᚣᚦ·ᚠᚩᚱ·ᛇᚱᛚᚢᛗ·ᚫᚦᛖᛚᛁᛝᚪ·ᚹᚣᚾ:
ᚻᚩᚱᛋ·ᚻᚩᚠᚢᛗ·ᚹᛚᚪᚾᚳ:ᚦᚫᚱ·ᚻᛁᛗ·ᚻᚫᛚᛖᚦ·ᚣᛗᛒᛖ
ᚹᛖᛚᛖᚷᛖ·ᚩᚾ·ᚹᛁᚳᚷᚢᛗ·ᚹᚱᛁᛉᛚᚪᚦ·ᛋᛈᚱᚫᚳᛖ·ᚪᚾᛞ·ᛒᛁᚦ·ᚢᚾᛋᛏᚣᛚᛚᚢᛗ·ᚫᚠᚱᛖ·ᚠᚱᚩᚠᚢᚱ⋮

ᛗᚪᚾ·ᛒᚣᚦ·ᚩᚾ·ᛗᚣᚱᚷᚦᛖ·ᚻᛁᛋ·ᛗᚪᚷᚪᚾ·ᛚᛇᚠ:
ᛋᚳᛠᛚ·ᚦᛠᚻ·ᚪᚾᚱᚪ·ᚷᛖᚻᚹᚣᛚᚳ·ᚩᚦᚱᚢᛗ·ᛋᚹᛁᚳᚪᚾ:
ᚠᚩᚱᚦᚢᛗ·ᛞᚱᛁᚻᛏᛖᚾ·ᚹᚣᛚᛖ·ᛞᚩᛗᛖ·ᛋᛁᚾᛖ·ᚦᚫᛏ·ᛠᚱᛗᛖ·ᚠᛚᚫᛋᚳ·ᛇᚱᚦᚪᚾ·ᛒᛖᛏᚫᚳᚪᚾ⋮

ᛚᚪᚷᚢ·ᛒᚣᚦ·ᛚᛇᛞᚢᛗ·ᛚᚪᛝᛋᚢᛗ·ᚷᛖᚦᚢᚻᛏ:
ᚷᛁᚠ·ᚻᛁ·ᛋᚳᚢᛚᚢᚾ·ᚾᛖᚦᚪᚾ·ᚩᚾ·ᚾᚪᚳᚪᚾ·ᛏᛠᛚᛏᚢᛗ
ᚪᚾᛞ·ᚻᛁ·ᛋᚫᚣᚦᚪ·ᛋᚹᚣᚦᛖ·ᛒᚱᛖᚷᚪᚦ·ᚪᚾᛞ·ᛋᛖ·ᛒᚱᛁᛗᚻᛖᛝᛖᛋᛏ·ᛒᚱᛁᛞᛚᛖᛋ·ᚾᛖ·ᚷᚣᛗᛖᚦ⋮

ᛁᛝ·ᚹᚪᛋ·ᚫᚱᛖᛋᛏ·ᛗᛁᛞ·ᛠᛋᛏᛞᛖᚾᚢᛗ ᚷᛖᛋᛖᚹᛖᚾ·ᛋᛖᚳᚷᚢᚾ:ᚩᚦ·ᚻᛖ·ᛋᛁᚦᚦᚪᚾ·ᛖᛋᛏ
ᚩᚠᛖᚱ·ᚹᚫᚷ·ᚷᛖᚹᚪᛏ:ᚹᚫᚾ·ᚫᚠᛏᛖᚱ·ᚱᚪᚾ:ᚦᚢᛋ·ᚻᛠᚱᛞᛁᛝᚪᛋ·ᚦᚩᚾᛖ·ᚻᚫᛚᛖ·ᚾᛖᛗᛞᚢᚾ⋮

ᛟᚦᛖᛚ·ᛒᚣᚦ·ᚩᚠᛖᚱᛚᛇᚠ·ᚫᚷᚻᚹᚣᛚᚳᚢᛗ·ᛗᛖᚾ:
ᚷᛁᚠ·ᚻᛁ·ᛗᚩᛏ·ᚦᚫᚱ·ᚱᛁᚻᛏᛖᛋ·ᚪᚾᛞ·ᚷᛖᚱᚣᛋᚾᛖᚪ·ᚩᚾ
ᛒᚱᚢᚳᚪᚾ·ᚩᚾ·ᛒᚩᛚᛞᛖ·ᛒᛚᛠᛞᚢᛗ·ᚩᚠᛏᚪᛋᛏ⋮

ᛞᚫᚷ·ᛒᚣᚦ·ᛞᚱᛁᚻᛏᚾᛖᛋ·ᛋᚩᚾᛞ:ᛞᛇᚱᛖ·ᛗᚪᚾᚾᚢᛗ:
ᛗᚫᚱᛖ·ᛗᛖᛏᚩᛞᛖᛋ·ᛚᛇᚻᛏ:ᛗᚣᚱᚷᚦ·ᚪᚾᛞ·ᛏᚩᚻᛁᚻᛏ
ᛠᛞᚷᚢᛗ·ᚪᚾᛞ·ᛠᚱᛗᚢᛗ:ᛠᛚᛚᚢᛗ·ᛒᚱᛁᚳᛖ⋮

ᚪᚳ·ᛒᚣᚦ·ᚩᚾ·ᛇᚱᚦᚪᚾ·ᛖᛚᛞᚪ·ᛒᚣᚱᚾᚢᛗ ᚠᛚᚫᛋᚳᛖᛋ·ᚠᚩᛞᚩᚱ·ᚠᛖᚱᛖᚦ·ᚷᛖᛚᚩᛗᛖ ᚩᚠᛖᚱ·ᚷᚪᚾᚩᛏᛖᛋ·ᛒᚫᚦ:ᚷᚪᚱᛋᛖᚳᚷ·ᚠᚪᚾᛞᚪᚦ·ᚻᚹᚫᚦᛖᚱ·ᚪᚳ·ᚻᚫᛒᛒᛖ·ᚫᚦᛖᛚᛖ·ᛏᚱᛇᚹᛖ⋮

ᚫᛋᚳ·ᛒᛁᚦ·ᚩᚠᛖᚱᚻᛠᚻ:ᛖᛚᛞᚢᛗ·ᛞᚣᚱᛖ ᛋᛏᛁᚦ·ᚩᚾ·ᛋᛏᚪᚦᚢᛚᛖ:ᛋᛏᛖᛞᛖ·ᚱᛁᚻᛏᛖ·ᚻᚣᛚᛏ:
ᚦᛠᚻ·ᚻᛁᛗ·ᚠᛇᚻᛏᚪᚾ·ᚩᚾ·ᚠᛁᚱᚪᛋ·ᛗᚩᚾᛁᚷᛖ⋮

ᚣᚱ·ᛒᚣᚦ·ᚫᚦᛖᛚᛁᛝᚪ·ᚪᚾᛞ·ᛇᚱᛚᚪ·ᚷᛖᚻᚹᚫᛋ
ᚹᚣᚾ·ᚪᚾᛞ·ᚹᚣᚱᚦᛗᚣᚾᛞ:ᛒᚣᚦ·ᚩᚾ·ᚹᛁᚳᚷᛖ·ᚠᚫᚷᛖᚱ:
ᚠᚫᛋᛏᛚᛁᚳ·ᚩᚾ·ᚠᚫᚱᛖᛚᛞᛖ:ᚠᚣᚱᛞᚷᛠᛏᛖᚹᚪ·ᛋᚢᛗ⋮

ᛡᚱ·ᛒᚣᚦ·ᛠᚠᛁᛉ·ᚪᚾᛞ·ᚦᛠᚻ·ᚪ·ᛒᚱᚢᚳᛖᚦ
ᚠᚩᛞᚱᛖᛋ·ᚩᚾ·ᚠᚩᛚᛞᚪᚾ:ᚻᚪᚠᚪᚦ·ᚠᚫᚷᛖᚱᚾᛖ·ᛠᚱᛞ
ᚹᚫᛏᚱᛖ·ᛒᛖᚹᚩᚱᛈᛖᚾ:ᚦᚫᚱ·ᚻᛖ·ᚹᚣᚾᚾᚢᛗ·ᛚᛇᚠᚪᚦ⋮

ᛠᚱ·ᛒᚣᚦ·ᛖᚷᛚᛖ·ᛇᚱᛚᚪ·ᚷᛖᚻᚹᚣᛚᚳᚢᚾ: ᚦᚩᚾᚾᛖ·ᚠᚫᛋᛏᛚᛁᚳᛖ·ᚠᛚᚫᛋᚳ·ᚩᚾᚷᛁᚾᚾᛖᚦ:ᚻᚱᚪᚹ·ᚳᚩᛚᛡᚾ:ᚻᚱᚢᛋᚪᚾ:ᚳᛇᛋᚪᚾ
ᛒᛚᚪᚳ·ᛏᚩ·ᚷᛖᛒᛖᛞᛞᚪᚾ:ᛒᛚᛖᛞᚪ·ᚷᛖᛞᚱᛇᛋᚪᚦ·ᚹᚣᚾᚾᚪ·ᚷᛖᚹᛁᛏᚪᚦ:ᚹᛖᚱᚪ·ᚷᛖᛋᚹᛁᚳᚪᚦ⋮

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Kees van Eeten

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Konstantin Kuzov : Michiel van der Vlist

From the Anglo-Saxon Rune Poem (Rune version):

I can't read it.

I doubt much people even have rune font installed, but here it is:

ᚠᛇᚻ·ᛒᚣᚦ·ᚠᚱᚩᚠᚢᚱ·ᚠᛁᚱᚪ·ᚷᛖᚻᚹᚣᛚᚳᚢᛗ:
ᛋᚳᛠᛚ·ᚦᛠᚻ·ᛗᚪᚾᚾᚪ·ᚷᛖᚻᚹᚣᛚᚳ·ᛗᛁᚳᛚᚢᚾ·ᚻᚣᛏ·ᛞᚫᛚᚪᚾ
ᚷᛁᚠ·ᚻᛖ·ᚹᛁᛚᛖ·ᚠᚩᚱ·ᛞᚱᛁᚻᛏᚾᛖ·ᛞᚩᛗᛖᛋ·ᚻᛚᛇᛏᚪᚾ⋮

...

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This is how it shows here with Seamonkey.

http://cow.dy.fi/capture.png

'Tommi

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ᚦᚩᚾᚾᛖ·ᚠᚫᛋᛏᛚᛁᚳᛖ·ᚠᛚᚫᛋᚳ·ᚩᚾᚷᛁᚾᚾᛖᚦ:ᚻᚱᚪᚹ·ᚳᚩᛚᛡᚾ:ᚻᚱᚢᛋᚪᚾ:ᚳᛇᛋᚪᚾ

Looks fine to me.

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'Tommi

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Op 10-3-2017 om 09:56 schreef 25019/40.1:

Greetings, Michiel!

From the Anglo-Saxon Rune Poem (Rune version):

I can't read it.

I doubt much people even have rune font installed, but here it is:

ᚠᛇᚻ·ᛒᚣᚦ·ᚠᚱᚩᚠᚢᚱ·ᚠᛁᚱᚪ·ᚷᛖᚻᚹᚣᛚᚳᚢᛗ:

[ ... ]

ᛒᛚᚪᚳ·ᛏᚩ·ᚷᛖᛒᛖᛞᛞᚪᚾ:ᛒᛚᛖᛞᚪ·ᚷᛖᛞᚱᛇᛋᚪᚦ·ᚹᚣᚾᚾᚪ·ᚷᛖᚹᛁᛏᚪᚦ:ᚹᛖᚱᚪ·ᚷᛖᛋᚹᛁᚳᚪᚦ⋮

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I do seem to have a rune font installed.
Guess that comes standard with Windows 10 or with Microsoft Office.

Chris

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On 3/10/2017 9:56 AM, Konstantin Kuzov -> Michiel van der Vlist wrote:

I doubt much people even have rune font installed, but here it is:

ᚠᛇᚻ·ᛒᚣᚦ·ᚠᚱᚩᚠᚢᚱ·ᚠᛁᚱᚪ·ᚷᛖᚻᚹᚣᛚᚳᚢᛗ:
ᛋᚳᛠᛚ·ᚦᛠᚻ·ᛗᚪᚾᚾᚪ·ᚷᛖᚻᚹᚣᛚᚳ·ᛗᛁᚳᛚᚢᚾ·ᚻᚣᛏ·ᛞᚫᛚᚪᚾ
ᚷᛁᚠ·ᚻᛖ·ᚹᛁᛚᛖ·ᚠᚩᚱ·ᛞᚱᛁᚻᛏᚾᛖ·ᛞᚩᛗᛖᛋ·ᚻᛚᛇᛏᚪᚾ⋮

Apparantly I do, but had to use something other than Golded to read it. :)

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Nick

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Greetings, Kees!

With that done the next challenge is to get the reverse route
going, as well as making smapinntpd IPv6 aware.

Dunno if we need to go to IPV6 echo... But porting to ipv6 is pretty trivial: =====================================================================
diff -urN ganjanntpd-1.9/main.c ganjanntpd-1.9-ipv6/main.c
--- ganjanntpd-1.9/main.c 2017-02-27 23:41:23.000000000 +0300
+++ ganjanntpd-1.9-ipv6/main.c 2017-03-13 12:59:42.872717283 +0300
@@ -223,16 +223,6 @@

cfg_logfile=argv[++c];
}
- else if(stricmp(arg,"-ip")==0 || stricmp(arg,"-ipaddress")==0)
- {
- if(c+1 == argc)
- {
- printf("Missing argument for %s%s\n",argv[c],src);
- return(FALSE);
- }
-
- cfg_ipaddr=argv[++c];
- }
else if(stricmp(arg,"-config")==0)
{
if(filename)
@@ -359,7 +349,6 @@
fprintf(fp,"users \"%s\"\n",cfg_usersfile);
fprintf(fp,"xlat \"%s\"\n",cfg_xlatfile);
fprintf(fp,"hostname \"%s\"\n",cfg_hostname);
- fprintf(fp,"ipaddress \"%s\"\n",cfg_ipaddr);
fprintf(fp,"logfile \"%s\"\n",cfg_logfile);
fprintf(fp,"%snoecholog\n",cfg_noecholog ? "" : "#");
fprintf(fp,"%sdebug\n",cfg_debug ? "" : "#");
@@ -401,7 +390,7 @@
{
SOCKET sock;
int error,res;
- struct sockaddr_in local;
+

Greetings, Chris!

ᛒᛚᚪᚳ·ᛏᚩ·ᚷᛖᛒᛖᛞᛞᚪᚾ:ᛒᛚᛖᛞᚪ·ᚷᛖᛞᚱᛇᛋᚪᚦ·ᚹᚣᚾᚾᚪ·ᚷᛖᚹᛁᛏᚪᚦ:ᚹᛖᚱᚪ·ᚷᛖᛋᚹᛁᚳᚪᚦ⋮

I do seem to have a rune font installed.
Guess that comes standard with Windows 10 or with Microsoft Office.

Yeah, maybe for Windows that's true. For me none of my linux systems have installed font capable of displaying runes. Same situation on android nougat phone with RR rom.

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Hello Konstantin!

Thaks,that works.

13 Mar 17 13:19, you wrote to me:

Greetings, Kees!

With that done the next challenge is to get the reverse route
going, as well as making smapinntpd IPv6 aware.

Dunno if we need to go to IPV6 echo... But porting to ipv6 is pretty trivial: =====================================================================
diff -urN ganjanntpd-1.9/main.c ganjanntpd-1.9-ipv6/main.c
--- ganjanntpd-1.9/main.c 2017-02-27 23:41:23.000000000 +0300
+++ ganjanntpd-1.9-ipv6/main.c 2017-03-13 12:59:42.872717283 +0300

Kees

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