On Oct 30, 3:14apm, Ron <or...@dslnorthwest.net> wrote:LOL. This reminds me of a physics class I was taking in college a few
Watching The Savage Curtain Today has gotten me a bit intrigued by the scanner in the transporter room. Spock looks into it and tells Kirk
about a mineral-like lifeform with claws, but how does he know this?
Did Spock actually *see* this creature through this device or does it
only give a chemical analysis-- and if so, how does Spock come up with
a full description from a list of chemicals and minerals?
First Spock tells about the creature, then he says there are human readings; two different types of descriptions from one device! And I
seem to remember it being used a couple of times before, but not the episodes..?
Ron
Maybe it was like that thing the Romper Room lady had. Scary how she
could she all those kids.
Yeah, but in the name of "imagination", you're telling him to not
imagine anything, and just shut up and accept whatever he sees without question. That's anti-imagination.
LOL. This reminds me of a physics class I was taking in college a fewThey could instantly beam a flying camera wherever they wanted and get
years back called "Science In Science Fiction" where the physics
teacher had us watching Star Trek IV and he saw Kirk ayell "Put it on
the screen!" and he was wondering how they could get a picture of the
whales and the approaching whaling boat on that Klingon view screen.
ah, the magic of technology, heh heh...
Ever since The Corbomite Maneuver I've wondered about the Enterprise'sLOL. This reminds me of a physics class I was taking in college a few
years back called "Science In Science Fiction" where the physics
teacher had us watching Star Trek IV and he saw Kirk ayell "Put it on
the screen!" and he was wondering how they could get a picture of the whales and the approaching whaling boat on that Klingon view screen.
ah, the magic of technology, heh heh...
They could instantly beam a flying camera wherever they wanted and get
a picture from it.
Rik
Oh Geez,....even Patrick Mcgoohan probably laughed at people who claimed to have figured out details of that show.Whoever told the set designer to build a giant two-seater see-saw must
...Don't get me wrong,...It's still great, and even better if you watch it while "under the influence".
With Balok, they didn't specifically say, but I'd assumed that Spock
had intercepted a visual message from Balok to his home base.
...Don't get me wrong,...It's still great, and even better if you watch it while "under the influence".- Hide quoted text -
"Graeme" <graemec...@aol.com> wrote in messageUhura didn't get anything--- it was Bailey, the navigator, who pulled
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With Balok, they didn't specifically say, but I'd assumed that Spock
had intercepted a visual message from Balok to his home base.
I didn't think so,
because neither Uhura nor Spock mentioned any messages.
(Whereas later in the ep, Uhura intercepts just such a message.)
Now if the Fesarius had been properly shielded, such scanning wouldn'tThe other somewhat unexplained side to that is how could Balok digest
work. aBut Balok said that he had actually permitted Spock's scans to
pick up "his" image (actually his dummy's image).
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On Nov 2, 8:58aam, "Steven L." <sdlit...@earthlink.net> wrote:
"Graeme" <graemec...@aol.com> wrote in message
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With Balok, they didn't specifically say, but I'd assumed that Spock
had intercepted a visual message from Balok to his home base.
I didn't think so,
because neither Uhura nor Spock mentioned any messages.
(Whereas later in the ep, Uhura intercepts just such a message.)
Uhura didn't get anything--- it was Bailey, the navigator, who pulled
that funky ear piece out of nowhere in his console and picked up the
message. I always thought that was bizarre but they never did it
again.
Now if the Fesarius had been properly shielded, such scanning wouldn't work. aBut Balok said that he had actually permitted Spock's scans to
pick up "his" image (actually his dummy's image).
-- Steven L.- Hide quoted text -
The other somewhat unexplained side to that is how could Balok digest
all the information out of the Enterprise's computer banks in such a
short period time--- enough even to know about Dr. Jeckyll and Mr.
Hyde? Did he memorize everyting in that big head of his, Talosian-
style? :-)
UHURA: "Negative. His signal is growing weak.If the mother ship doesn't hear it, does it make any noise?
Sir, I doubt the mother ship heard it."
"Ron" <or...@dslnorthwest.net> wrote in message
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That was the *second* message: the very first one Bailey receivedOn Nov 2, 8:58 am, "Steven L." <sdlit...@earthlink.net> wrote:
"Graeme" <graemec...@aol.com> wrote in message
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With Balok, they didn't specifically say, but I'd assumed that Spock had intercepted a visual message from Balok to his home base.
I didn't think so,
because neither Uhura nor Spock mentioned any messages.
(Whereas later in the ep, Uhura intercepts just such a message.)
Uhura didn't get anything--- it was Bailey, the navigator, who pulled
that funky ear piece out of nowhere in his console and picked up the message. I always thought that was bizarre but they never did it
again.
[later in the episode...]
UHURA: a"A signal, Captain.
It's very weak.
It's Balok.
It's a distress signal to the Fesarius.
His engines...are out...
His life-sustaining system
isn't operating.
The message is repeating, sir."
KIRK: "Any reply?"
UHURA: "Negative. His signal is growing weak.
Sir, I doubt the mother ship heard it."
-- Steven L.- Hide quoted text -
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On Nov 3, 7:38aam, "Steven L." <sdlit...@earthlink.net> wrote:
"Ron" <or...@dslnorthwest.net> wrote in message
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On Nov 2, 8:58 am, "Steven L." <sdlit...@earthlink.net> wrote:
"Graeme" <graemec...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:55abff54-80b6-48cf-978d-f098c4cb776a@s10g2000yqa.googlegroups.com:
With Balok, they didn't specifically say, but I'd assumed that Spock had intercepted a visual message from Balok to his home base.
I didn't think so,
because neither Uhura nor Spock mentioned any messages.
(Whereas later in the ep, Uhura intercepts just such a message.)
Uhura didn't get anything--- it was Bailey, the navigator, who pulled that funky ear piece out of nowhere in his console and picked up the message. I always thought that was bizarre but they never did it
again.
[later in the episode...]
UHURA: a"A signal, Captain.
It's very weak.
It's Balok.
It's a distress signal to the Fesarius.
His engines...are out...
His life-sustaining system
isn't operating.
The message is repeating, sir."
KIRK: "Any reply?"
UHURA: "Negative. His signal is growing weak.
Sir, I doubt the mother ship heard it."
-- Steven L.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
That was the *second* message: the very first one Bailey received
which makes you wonder what th hell was going on there and why does a navigator have a communications ear piece in the first place?
"Ron" <or...@dslnorthwest.net> wrote in message
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On Nov 3, 7:38 am, "Steven L." <sdlit...@earthlink.net> wrote:
"Ron" <or...@dslnorthwest.net> wrote in message
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On Nov 2, 8:58 am, "Steven L." <sdlit...@earthlink.net> wrote:
"Graeme" <graemec...@aol.com> wrote in message
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With Balok, they didn't specifically say, but I'd assumed that
Hmmm, but doesn't it seem rather odd that they write-in and create thehad intercepted a visual message from Balok to his home base.
I didn't think so,
because neither Uhura nor Spock mentioned any messages.
(Whereas later in the ep, Uhura intercepts just such a message.)
Uhura didn't get anything--- it was Bailey, the navigator, who pulled that funky ear piece out of nowhere in his console and picked up the message. I always thought that was bizarre but they never did it
again.
[later in the episode...]
UHURA: "A signal, Captain.
It's very weak.
It's Balok.
It's a distress signal to the Fesarius.
His engines...are out...
His life-sustaining system
isn't operating.
The message is repeating, sir."
KIRK: "Any reply?"
UHURA: "Negative. His signal is growing weak.
Sir, I doubt the mother ship heard it."
-- Steven L.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
That was the *second* message: the very first one Bailey received
which makes you wonder what th hell was going on there and why does a navigator have a communications ear piece in the first place?
Bailey said something about hearing the message via his "navigation
beam". aI guess the idea there was for the navigator to receive
navigation data broadcast to him with his own ear piece.
With these early episodes, Roddenberry & Co. still hadn't tied down the procedures followed by the bridge crew.
On Nov 3, 1:04apm, "Steven L." <sdlit...@earthlink.net> wrote:
"Ron" <or...@dslnorthwest.net> wrote in message
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On Nov 3, 7:38 am, "Steven L." <sdlit...@earthlink.net> wrote:
"Ron" <or...@dslnorthwest.net> wrote in message
news:dd59a94e-fcf2-4856-b1c9-984867e1148d@u37g2000prh.googlegroups.com:
On Nov 2, 8:58 am, "Steven L." <sdlit...@earthlink.net> wrote:
"Graeme" <graemec...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:55abff54-80b6-48cf-978d-f098c4cb776a@s10g2000yqa.googlegroups.com:Spock
With Balok, they didn't specifically say, but I'd assumed that
Maybe her line was busy so it rang over to Bailey.had intercepted a visual message from Balok to his home base.
I didn't think so,
because neither Uhura nor Spock mentioned any messages.
(Whereas later in the ep, Uhura intercepts just such a message.)
Uhura didn't get anything--- it was Bailey, the navigator, who pulled that funky ear piece out of nowhere in his console and picked up the message. I always thought that was bizarre but they never did it again.
[later in the episode...]
UHURA: "A signal, Captain.
It's very weak.
It's Balok.
It's a distress signal to the Fesarius.
His engines...are out...
His life-sustaining system
isn't operating.
The message is repeating, sir."
KIRK: "Any reply?"
UHURA: "Negative. His signal is growing weak.
Sir, I doubt the mother ship heard it."
-- Steven L.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
That was the *second* message: the very first one Bailey received
which makes you wonder what th hell was going on there and why does a navigator have a communications ear piece in the first place?
Bailey said something about hearing the message via his "navigation
beam". aI guess the idea there was for the navigator to receive
navigation data broadcast to him with his own ear piece.
With these early episodes, Roddenberry & Co. still hadn't tied down the procedures followed by the bridge crew.
Hmmm, but doesn't it seem rather odd that they write-in and create the
part of Uhura, a communications officer, only to have Bailey-- the
navigation officer-- ato receive the message? Why didn't Uhura just
pick up the message in the first place?
On Nov 3, 4:36apm, Ron <or...@dslnorthwest.net> wrote:
On Nov 3, 1:04apm, "Steven L." <sdlit...@earthlink.net> wrote:
"Ron" <or...@dslnorthwest.net> wrote in message
news:e6edf80f-e175-4064-9b07-9fbc43d51dd3@gk10g2000vbb.googlegroups.com:
On Nov 3, 7:38 am, "Steven L." <sdlit...@earthlink.net> wrote:
"Ron" <or...@dslnorthwest.net> wrote in message
news:dd59a94e-fcf2-4856-b1c9-984867e1148d@u37g2000prh.googlegroups.com:
On Nov 2, 8:58 am, "Steven L." <sdlit...@earthlink.net> wrote:
"Graeme" <graemec...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:55abff54-80b6-48cf-978d-f098c4cb776a@s10g2000yqa.googlegroups.com:Spock
With Balok, they didn't specifically say, but I'd assumed that
pulledhad intercepted a visual message from Balok to his home base.
I didn't think so,
because neither Uhura nor Spock mentioned any messages.
(Whereas later in the ep, Uhura intercepts just such a message.)
Uhura didn't get anything--- it was Bailey, the navigator, who
thethat funky ear piece out of nowhere in his console and picked up
Uhura was talking to Customer Support about her crappy ear piece; otmessage. I always thought that was bizarre but they never did it again.
[later in the episode...]
UHURA: "A signal, Captain.
It's very weak.
It's Balok.
It's a distress signal to the Fesarius.
His engines...are out...
His life-sustaining system
isn't operating.
The message is repeating, sir."
KIRK: "Any reply?"
UHURA: "Negative. His signal is growing weak.
Sir, I doubt the mother ship heard it."
-- Steven L.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
That was the *second* message: the very first one Bailey received
which makes you wonder what th hell was going on there and why does a navigator have a communications ear piece in the first place?
Bailey said something about hearing the message via his "navigation beam". aI guess the idea there was for the navigator to receive navigation data broadcast to him with his own ear piece.
With these early episodes, Roddenberry & Co. still hadn't tied down the procedures followed by the bridge crew.
Hmmm, but doesn't it seem rather odd that they write-in and create the
part of Uhura, a communications officer, only to have Bailey-- the navigation officer-- ato receive the message? Why didn't Uhura just
pick up the message in the first place?
Maybe her line was busy so it rang over to Bailey.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
On Nov 1, 2:48 pm, "Bast" <faken...@nomail.invalid> wrote:
Oh Geez,....even Patrick Mcgoohan probably laughed at people who claimed to >> have figured out details of that show.
...Don't get me wrong,...It's still great, and even better if you watch it >> while "under the influence".
Whoever told the set designer to build a giant two-seater see-saw must
have had something in mind. I just want to know if he was under the influence.
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