• How to add other echo message boards?

    From tmcca@1:103/705 to All on Sat Aug 10 19:08:37 2024
    I am confused on how to add other message boards like AmigaNet; HobbyNet, etc. I know about running in init-fidonet.ini and selecting the correct number. After, that I am not sure what to do. Sorry, I am new and maybe a stupid ?.
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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to tmcca on Sat Aug 10 19:34:48 2024
    Re: How to add other echo message boards?
    By: tmcca to All on Sat Aug 10 2024 07:08 pm

    I am confused on how to add other message boards like AmigaNet; HobbyNet, etc. I know about running in init-fidonet.ini and selecting the correct number. After, that I am not sure what to do. Sorry, I am new and maybe a stupid ?.

    init-fidonet.ini is just a data file for use by init-fidonet.js. So you run init-fidonet.js, not init-fidonet.ini.

    Depending on the network you're joining, if they have an echolist available for download, the script will automatically download the echolist and import it into SCFG for you.

    That's what this step is: "Download and import an EchoList (list of FidoNet message areas) in SCFG->Message Areas" and it's automated when running init-fidonet.js, you'll get prompted (if the echolist is retrievable via http or https) if you want to download and install it. Just answer 'Y' to that prompt.
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  • From Gamgee@1:103/705 to tmcca on Sun Aug 11 07:29:00 2024
    tmcca wrote to All <=-

    I am confused on how to add other message boards like AmigaNet;
    HobbyNet, etc. I know about running in init-fidonet.ini and selecting
    the correct number. After, that I am not sure what to do. Sorry, I am
    new and maybe a stupid ?.

    It's pretty well documented on the Wiki. You'll have to spend some time reading and putting some effort into it, though. I suggest you start
    here:

    https://wiki.synchro.net/howto:fidonet

    If you have more specific questions after that, come back and ask.



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  • From tmcca@1:103/705 to Gamgee on Sun Aug 11 06:52:51 2024
    I got FidoNet setup waiting for node address now.

    I am trying to figure out how to add HobbyNet. Thanks
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  • From tmcca@1:103/705 to Gamgee on Mon Aug 12 05:43:23 2024

    I got the message board setup and did areafix. I got a reply back and said had messages. However, the message board not updating the messages. Obviously, have something wrong here. I got 2 addresses 954:895/2 mystic-hobbies.com which I think is hub and my node is 954:895/71.
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  • From Rixter@1:103/705 to Gamgee on Mon Aug 12 13:02:15 2024
    Are there any notes somewhere on how to setup fsx net on synchronet? I did not see any in the “wiki”. I saw your screen name in a series called back to the bbs. He mentioned you by name. It was a show talking about message networks on bbs systems.

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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Rixter on Mon Aug 12 17:12:08 2024
    Re: Re: How to add other echo message boards?
    By: Rixter to Gamgee on Mon Aug 12 2024 01:02 pm

    Are there any notes somewhere on how to setup fsx net on synchronet? I did not see any in the "wiki". I saw your screen name in a series called back to
    the bbs. He mentioned you by name. It was a show talking about message networks on bbs systems.

    Use the init-fidonet.js script as detailed here: https://wiki.synchro.net/howto:fidonet

    But choose fsxNet in the initial prompt.
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  • From Gamgee@1:103/705 to Rixter on Mon Aug 12 19:33:00 2024
    Rixter wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Are there any notes somewhere on how to setup fsx net on synchronet? I
    did not see any in the wiki. I saw your screen name in a series called back to the bbs. He mentioned you by name. It was a show talking about message networks on bbs systems.

    Basically all FTN message networks work the same. If you've already got FidoNet working, just make FSXnet the same way, obviously with different
    node numbers, but the concept is exactly the same. I actually find it
    easier to edit ../ctrl/sbbsecho.ini by hand, it's pretty
    straightforward. Also, although I've never used it, there is that "init-fido.js" (probably not the exactly correct name) setup script that automates much of it. Run that and pick FSX.

    If you have specific questions after that, ask them here.



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  • From Rixter@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Mon Aug 12 21:38:58 2024
    Re: Re: How to add other echo message boards?
    By: Rixter to Gamgee on Mon Aug 12 2024 01:02 pm

    Use the init-fidonet.js script as detailed here: https://wiki.synchro.net/howto:fidonet

    But choose fsxNet in the initial prompt.
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  • From tmcca@1:103/705 to Rixter on Wed Aug 14 21:03:21 2024

    I got the message base working. I am confused on the file area part. Where and how do I add file part for the Node and Info pack. I was told need to make two files.
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  • From Gamgee@1:103/705 to tmcca on Thu Aug 15 08:05:00 2024
    tmcca wrote to Rixter <=-

    I got the message base working. I am confused on the file area part.
    Where and how do I add file part for the Node and Info pack. I was told need to make two files.

    Honestly, what you really need to do is READ some documentation.

    Here: https://wiki.synchro.net/



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  • From echicken@1:103/705 to tmcca on Thu Aug 15 20:18:24 2024
    Re: Re: How to add other echo message boards?
    By: tmcca to Rixter on Wed Aug 14 2024 21:03:21

    I got the message base working. I am confused on the file area part. Where and how do I add file part for the Node and Info pack. I was told need to make two files.

    You'll need to subscribe to file echoes if you haven't already. Generally this means you'll send a message to FileFix at your hub telling it to connect you. Ask your hub operator for details on how to do this.

    You'll need to configure TickIT to process the inbound files:

    https://wiki.synchro.net/module:tickit

    and probably create local file libraries and directories (via scfg) to drop the files into.

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  • From tmcca@1:103/705 to echicken on Fri Aug 16 17:45:47 2024
    Ok, I got some progress made file area bbs and fidonet areatag HNET_. I got it working for amiganet. Hobby net the files goin into fido/unimported folder so obviously something I have wrong but don't know what.

    when I send a filefix to hub I add +HNET_INFO and HNET_NODE. Am I missing something here?
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  • From echicken@1:103/705 to tmcca on Fri Aug 16 23:40:00 2024
    Re: Re: How to add other echo message boards?
    By: tmcca to echicken on Fri Aug 16 2024 17:45:47

    got it working for amiganet. Hobby net the files goin into fido/unimported folder so obviously something I have wrong but don't know what.

    In a situation like this I'd really comb through the settings for the working and non-working one side by side and try to spot the differences.

    when I send a filefix to hub I add +HNET_INFO and HNET_NODE. Am I missing something here?

    Were you given a FileFix / AreaFix password by your hub operator, and are you using that as the subject line in the netmail that you send to it?

    Are you getting any response to your netmail to FileFix, even to tell you there was an error?

    Does FileFix respond to a LIST command? Are you sure you have the area names correct?

    Can you send netmail to other addresses on HobbyNet, like AreaFix or the hub operator, and receive a response?

    I haven't used FileFix in many years, so that's all I've got for now.

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  • From tmcca@1:103/705 to echicken on Sun Aug 18 16:38:36 2024

    I tried another Netmail AmigaNet same thing. I made a file directory named it AmigaNet and sent a filefix to hub. I got response back said it was imported but to where? I don't see it. very strange as it says getting AMYLIST echoed. I am at a loss.
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  • From Gamgee@1:103/705 to tmcca on Sun Aug 18 20:44:00 2024
    tmcca wrote to echicken <=-

    I tried another Netmail AmigaNet same thing. I made a file directory
    named it AmigaNet and sent a filefix to hub. I got response back said
    it was imported but to where? I don't see it. very strange as it says getting AMYLIST echoed. I am at a loss.

    Look at your 'tickit.ini' file (in /sbbs/ctrl). Then, *READ* the top
    part of the file where it explains how to set it up. Then, read it
    again. Then set it up properly.

    This is all documented well on the Wiki.



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  • From echicken@1:103/705 to tmcca on Sun Aug 18 22:03:16 2024
    Re: Re: How to add other echo message boards?
    By: tmcca to echicken on Sun Aug 18 2024 16:38:36

    I tried another Netmail AmigaNet same thing. I made a file directory named it AmigaNet and sent a filefix to hub. I got response back said it was imported but to where? I don't see it. very strange as it says getting AMYLIST echoed. I am at a loss.

    Where the files are going to depends on how you configured TickIT.
    There's a global "Dir" setting in tickit.ini that says which of your file directories is used by default if a directory hasn't been configured for a particular echo. So if you have this configured, check that directory.

    You might have an [AMYLIST] section in tickit.ini with a "Dir" setting, which would be where incoming files go to.

    Note that when I say "directory" here, I don't mean just a path on disk, but a File Directory within a File Library as configured via scfg.

    https://wiki.synchro.net/module:tickit

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  • From tmcca@1:103/705 to echicken on Sun Aug 18 19:57:56 2024
    I ran jsexec init-tickit.js and got the following:

    [AMYLIST]
    Dir=MAIN_AMYLIST
    Handler=tickit/nodelist_handler.js
    HandlerArg={"domain":"amiganet" ,"match":"AmyList.1*", "nlmatch":"AmyList.*"} Forcereplace = true
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  • From tmcca@1:103/705 to echicken on Sun Aug 18 21:03:23 2024
    here is my sbbsecho log

    2024-08-18 23:43:36 SBBSecho (PID 6620) exiting with error level 0, Bundles(1 unpacked, 0 sent), Packets(20 imported, 0 sent), NetMail(1 imported, 0 exported, 0 packed), EchoMail(72 imported, 0 exported)
    2024-08-18 23:44:20 Importing D:\sbbs\fido\inbound\0b67b3e5.pkt (Type 2e, 0.3KB) from 39:902/0 to 39:902/556
    2024-08-18 23:44:20 FILEFIX (39:902/0) To: Thomas Mccaffery (39:902/556) Imported
    2024-08-18 23:44:20 SBBSecho (PID 12784) exiting with error level 0, Packets(1 imported, 0 sent), NetMail(1 imported, 0 exported, 0 packed)

    here is my new tickit.ini:
    [AMYLIST]
    Links=
    Dir=main_amiganet
    ForceReplace=true
    path=../fido/unimported
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  • From tmcca@1:103/705 to echicken on Sun Aug 18 21:09:27 2024
    Links=39:902/556
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  • From Gamgee@1:103/705 to tmcca on Mon Aug 19 07:44:00 2024
    tmcca wrote to echicken <=-

    here is my sbbsecho log

    2024-08-18 23:43:36 SBBSecho (PID 6620) exiting with error level 0, Bundles(1 unpacked, 0 sent), Packets(20 imported, 0 sent), NetMail(1 imported, 0 exported, 0 packed), EchoMail(72 imported, 0 exported) 2024-08-18 23:44:20 Importing D:\sbbs\fido\inbound\0b67b3e5.pkt (Type
    2e, 0.3KB) from 39:902/0 to 39:902/556
    2024-08-18 23:44:20 FILEFIX (39:902/0) To: Thomas Mccaffery
    (39:902/556) Imported
    2024-08-18 23:44:20 SBBSecho (PID 12784) exiting with error level 0, Packets(1 imported, 0 sent), NetMail(1 imported, 0 exported, 0 packed)

    here is my new tickit.ini:
    [AMYLIST]
    Links=
    Dir=main_amiganet
    ForceReplace=true
    path=../fido/unimported

    Please look at your ../ctrl/tickit.ini file.

    Yes, actually *READ* it.

    Check out the part near the top there, where it points out that you
    can't have both "Dir" and "Path" defined at the same time. There is
    some other interesting stuff there too. Please *READ* it.

    Also read the Wiki instructions regarding Tickit.



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  • From Rixter@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Mon Aug 19 14:44:21 2024
    Re: How to add other echo message boards?
    By: tmcca to All on Sat Aug 10 2024 07:08 pm

    init-fidonet.ini is just a data file for use by init-fidonet.js. So you run init-fidonet.js, not init-fidonet.ini.

    Depending on the network you're joining, if they have an echolist available for download, the script will automatically download the echolist and import it into SCFG for you.

    That's what this step is: "Download and import an EchoList (list of FidoNet message areas) in SCFG->Message Areas" and it's automated when running init-fidonet.js, you'll get prompted (if the echolist is retrievable via http or https) if you want to download and install it. Just answer 'Y' to that prompt.
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    I am setting up FSXNET myself right now. I do not want to set up FIDONET yet. Do I make FSXNET my main? I know you have main and aka. Do I have to run fidoin and fidoout if I am not using fido net to start? I noticed I got a bunch of message packets from FSXNET and they are sitting in my inbound folder. How do I get them to propagate into the actual message area? I got my node ID from FSXnet and the fsxnet.na file came in just fine. I used the javascript setup which works really well btw. If I try to run FIDOIN and FIDOUT right now I get a message from windows that the program has encountered a problem and must shut down and I have to hit OK to a screen prompt. It also creates a sbbsecho.bsy file in the ctrl directory. I have been watching your YOUTUBE video and reading up on fidonet tossers and echocfg. Before you guys tear into me I am trying. I am reading the documentation. Any tips would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to Rixter on Mon Aug 19 12:13:40 2024
    Re: How to add other echo message boards?
    By: Rixter to Digital Man on Mon Aug 19 2024 02:44 pm

    I am setting up FSXNET myself right now. I do not want to set up FIDONET yet. Do I make FSXNET my main? I know you have main and aka. Do I have to run fidoin and fidoout if I am not using fido net to start?

    Yes. And the init-fidonet script enables those timed events for you, automatically.

    I noticed I got
    a bunch of message packets from FSXNET and they are sitting in my inbound folder. How do I get them to propagate into the actual message area?

    SBBSecho is the utility that does this. It's called a "tosser" (or tosser/scanner or EchoMail program). SBBSecho is normally run via the FIDOIN and FIDOOUT timed events (which are also triggered via semaphore file, e.g. from your FTN mailer, e.g. BinkIT).

    I got
    my node ID from FSXnet and the fsxnet.na file came in just fine. I used the javascript setup which works really well btw. If I try to run FIDOIN and FIDOUT right now I get a message from windows that the program has encountered a problem and must shut down and I have to hit OK to a screen prompt.

    That's definitely unexpected. This sounds similar to your SEXYZ problem. Again, I suggest updating your version of SBBSecho to the lateset and greatest and let us know if the problem persists.
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  • From tmcca@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Mon Aug 19 14:40:15 2024
    I ran the init-fidonet and getting this after:
    BINKPOLL Connection to f2.n895.z954.example.com:24554 failed (Error: No such host is known. ).
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  • From Digital Man@1:103/705 to tmcca on Mon Aug 19 15:22:44 2024
    Re: How to add other echo message boards?
    By: tmcca to Digital Man on Mon Aug 19 2024 02:40 pm

    I ran the init-fidonet and getting this after:
    BINKPOLL Connection to f2.n895.z954.example.com:24554 failed (Error: No such host is known. ).

    Looks like you're trying to use DNS-lookup for the node 951:895/2. Instead, specify the IP address or hostname for that node in your echocfg->Linked Nodes configuration ... BinkP Settings... Host.
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  • From Rixter@1:103/705 to tmcca on Mon Aug 19 20:33:34 2024
    I ran the init-fidonet and getting this after:
    BINKPOLL Connection to f2.n895.z954.example.com:24554 failed (Error: No such host is known. ).

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    Replace example.com with actual domain. That stands out to me. 🤞 good luck. I hope it works.

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  • From Rixter@1:103/705 to Digital Man on Mon Aug 19 20:36:38 2024
    Re: How to add other echo message boards?
    By: Rixter to Digital Man on Mon Aug 19 2024 02:44 pm

    Yes. And the init-fidonet script enables those timed events for you, automatically.

    SBBSecho is the utility that does this. It's called a "tosser" (or tosser/scanner or EchoMail program). SBBSecho is normally run via the FIDOIN and FIDOOUT timed events (which are also triggered via semaphore file, e.g. from your FTN mailer, e.g. BinkIT).

    That's definitely unexpected. This sounds similar to your SEXYZ problem. Again, I suggest updating your version of SBBSecho to the lateset and greatest and let us know if the problem persists.
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    Ok thank you. I did replace them. 😎 sexyz and sbbsecho that is.

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