Hi all
question.. i have fsxnet as my main "addresS" as that was the first FTN I managed to get going and so forth.
i also have micronet and fido as "alternates" (for want of a better way of putting it).
the question is, when someone netmails me from fido, it automatically replys with an FSX net address.
obviously i have either screwed something up (highly likely) or im missing something (equally as likely).
as of right now i found the "let user pick source address" in SCFG, but that's not ideal I'd love for it to automatically pickt he right FTN in a netmail.
echos are working fine after the same thign was pointed out to me and how to fix that one :D Just netmail i've been struggling with.
as of right now i found the "let user pick source address" in SCFG, but that's not ideal I'd love for it toThe built-in netmailing feature in Synchronet has the logic to match the source zone:net with the destination zone:net (or
automatically pickt he right FTN in a netmail.
echos are working fine after the same thign was pointed out to me and how to fix that one :D Just netmail i've been
struggling with.
just zone) automatically. Is the person netmailing you from fido netmailing from a different zone than yours?
Charles Blackburn wrote to Digital Man <=-
yea i was in zone 1 he was in zone 2.
regards
Charles Blackburn
Charles Blackburn wrote to Digital Man <=-
yea i was in zone 1 he was in zone 2.There seems to be something wrong with your Shift key.
regards
Charles Blackburn
Re: Automatic Network selection for netmail
By: Digital Man to Charles Blackburn on Sat Oct 08 2022 19:58:30
as of right now i found the "let user pick source address" in SCFG, but that's not ideal I'd love for it toThe built-in netmailing feature in Synchronet has the logic to match the source zone:net with the destination zone:net (or
automatically pickt he right FTN in a netmail.
echos are working fine after the same thign was pointed out to me and how to fix that one :D Just netmail i've been
struggling with.
just zone) automatically. Is the person netmailing you from fido netmailing from a different zone than yours?
yea i was in zone 1 he was in zone 2.
Charles Blackburn wrote to Gamgee <=-
yea i was in zone 1 he was in zone 2.
regards
Charles Blackburn
There seems to be something wrong with your Shift key.
huh ?
i might be old but im easily confused :D
Charles Blackburn wrote to Gamgee <=-
There seems to be something wrong with your Shift key.
huh ?
i might be old but im easily confused :D
Well.... was trying to be humorous about it... but. The Shift key. You know, the one that when held down and then a letter key is pressed,
makes that letter appear as a CAPITALIZED letter. You know, the
generally accepted correct way to write a proper sentence in English.
The way they taught you in school.
The rest of my comment was regarding 'MRO', who also never capitalizes anything, and well..... you know.
Charles Blackburn wrote to Gamgee <=-
There seems to be something wrong with your Shift key.
huh ?
i might be old but im easily confused :D
Well.... was trying to be humorous about it... but. The Shift key. You know, the one that when held down and then a letter key is pressed,
makes that letter appear as a CAPITALIZED letter. You know, the
noooo really? i thought that's what the CAPS LOCK button was for :P
generally accepted correct way to write a proper sentence in English.anyt
The way they taught you in school.
The rest of my comment was regarding 'MRO', who also never capitalizes
hing, and well..... you know.
yea i know, but i'm too lazy to do that. it doesn't make it any
less readable :D
Re: Automatic Network selection for netmail
By: Charles Blackburn to Digital Man on Sun Oct 09 2022 08:12 am
> yea i was in zone 1 he was in zone 2.
Well that explains why. Synchronet doesn't know that zone 1 and zone 2 are part of the same "network".
The built-in netmailing feature in Synchronet has the logic to match the source zone:net with the destination zone:net (or
just zone) automatically. Is the person netmailing you from fido netmailing from a different zone than yours?
yea i was in zone 1 he was in zone 2.
Well that explains why. Synchronet doesn't know that zone 1 and zone 2 are part of the same "network".
dragon wrote to Digital Man <=-
Re: Automatic Network selection for netmail
By: Charles Blackburn to Digital Man on Sun Oct 09 2022 08:12 am
> yea i was in zone 1 he was in zone 2.
Well that explains why. Synchronet doesn't know that zone 1 and zone
2 are part of the same "network".
Is there a way to let Synchronet know that zones 1 through 4 are
all in Fidonet?
Charles Blackburn wrote to Digital Man <=-the
Re: Automatic Network selection for netmail
By: Digital Man to Charles Blackburn on Sun Oct 09 2022
16:33:09
The built-in netmailing feature in Synchronet has the logic to match
source zone:net with the destination zone:net (ornetmail
just zone) automatically. Is the person netmailing you from fido
ing from a different zone than yours?
yea i was in zone 1 he was in zone 2.
Well that explains why. Synchronet doesn't know that zone 1 and zone 2 are
part of the same "network".
is there any way outside of "selecting manually" the origin
address to do it?
for example, i noticed in (i think it was) echobbs where you
specify your hubs. I have 1:xxx/xxx and 1:ALL - can i do 2:ALL ?
Subject: Re: Automatic Network selection for netmail
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On 10/9/2022 19:33, Digital Man wrote:
Re: Automatic Network selection for netmail
By: Charles Blackburn to Digital Man on Sun Oct 09 2022 08:12 am
> yea i was in zone 1 he was in zone 2.
Well that explains why. Synchronet doesn't know that zone 1 and zone 2 are part of the same "network".
Is there a way to let Synchronet know that zones 1 through 4 are all in Fidonet?
dragon wrote to Digital Man <=-
Re: Automatic Network selection for netmail
By: Charles Blackburn to Digital Man on Sun Oct 09 2022 08:12 am
> yea i was in zone 1 he was in zone 2.
Well that explains why. Synchronet doesn't know that zone 1 and zone
2 are part of the same "network".
Is there a way to let Synchronet know that zones 1 through 4 are
all in Fidonet?
Certainly. From my /sbbs/ctrl/sbbsecho.ini :
[domain:fidonet]
Zones = 1,2,3,4
DNSSuffix = binkp.net
NodeList = /sbbs/fido/nodelist/NODELIST.217
(that last line may vary according to your preferences)
You should have a "domain" declaration section for each network that
your system is connected to.
dragon wrote to Digital Man <=-dr> Is there a way to let Synchronet know that zones 1 through 4 are
dr> all in Fidonet?
Certainly. From my /sbbs/ctrl/sbbsecho.ini :
[domain:fidonet]
Zones = 1,2,3,4
DNSSuffix = binkp.net
NodeList = /sbbs/fido/nodelist/NODELIST.217
(that last line may vary according to your preferences)
You should have a "domain" declaration section for each network that
your system is connected to.
> You should have a "domain" declaration section for each network that
> your system is connected to.
Synchronet (e.g. sbbs) doesn't read/use the sbbsecho.ini file, so it doesn't know anything about FTN domains.
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On 10/10/2022 13:38, Digital Man wrote:
> You should have a "domain" declaration section for each network that
> your system is connected to.
Synchronet (e.g. sbbs) doesn't read/use the sbbsecho.ini file, so it doesn't know anything about FTN domains.
Wouldn't it make more sense if it did?
Digital Man wrote to Gamgee <=-
Re: Re: Automatic Network selection for netmail
By: Gamgee to dragon on Mon Oct 10 2022 08:11 am
Well that explains why. Synchronet doesn't know that zone 1 and zone
2 are part of the same "network".
Is there a way to let Synchronet know that zones 1 through 4 are
all in Fidonet?
Certainly. From my /sbbs/ctrl/sbbsecho.ini :
[domain:fidonet]
Zones = 1,2,3,4
DNSSuffix = binkp.net
NodeList = /sbbs/fido/nodelist/NODELIST.217
(that last line may vary according to your preferences)
You should have a "domain" declaration section for each network that
your system is connected to.
Synchronet (e.g. sbbs) doesn't read/use the sbbsecho.ini file, so
it doesn't know anything about FTN domains.
Re: Re: Automatic Network selection for netmail
By: dragon to Digital Man on Mon Oct 10 2022 02:42 pm
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> On 10/10/2022 13:38, Digital Man wrote:
>
> > > You should have a "domain" declaration section for each network that
> > > your system is connected to.
>
> > Synchronet (e.g. sbbs) doesn't read/use the sbbsecho.ini file, so it
> > doesn't know anything about FTN domains.
>
> Wouldn't it make more sense if it did?
Synchronet doesn't support 5D FTN addresses, nor do I see a need for it to, so no: I don't think it'd make more sense if sbbs used the sbbsecho.ini file for this purpsoe.
Digital Man wrote to Gamgee <=-
Re: Re: Automatic Network selection for netmail
By: Gamgee to dragon on Mon Oct 10 2022 08:11 am
Well that explains why. Synchronet doesn't know that zone 1 and zone
2 are part of the same "network".
Is there a way to let Synchronet know that zones 1 through 4 are
all in Fidonet?
Certainly. From my /sbbs/ctrl/sbbsecho.ini :
[domain:fidonet]
Zones = 1,2,3,4
DNSSuffix = binkp.net
NodeList = /sbbs/fido/nodelist/NODELIST.217
(that last line may vary according to your preferences)
You should have a "domain" declaration section for each network that
your system is connected to.
Synchronet (e.g. sbbs) doesn't read/use the sbbsecho.ini file, so
it doesn't know anything about FTN domains.
But.... we're talking about netmail... Isn't netmail sent with
sbbsecho?
When I write a netmail to someone in Zone 2, the choice of originating
FTN address defaults to my Zone 1 address. Same if I write to Zone 3 or
4. If I write to Zone 21, it "knows" to default to my Zone 21 address
as originator.
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Subject: Re: Automatic Network selection for netmail
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On 10/10/2022 18:19, Digital Man wrote:
Re: Re: Automatic Network selection for netmail
By: dragon to Digital Man on Mon Oct 10 2022 02:42 pm
> Subject: Re: Automatic Network selection for netmail
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> On 10/10/2022 13:38, Digital Man wrote:
>
> > > You should have a "domain" declaration section for each network that
> > > your system is connected to.
>
> > Synchronet (e.g. sbbs) doesn't read/use the sbbsecho.ini file, so it
> > doesn't know anything about FTN domains.
>
> Wouldn't it make more sense if it did?
Synchronet doesn't support 5D FTN addresses, nor do I see a need for it to, so no: I don't think it'd make more sense if sbbs used the sbbsecho.ini file for this purpsoe.
OK. So I must be missing something. Is it possible for a Fidonet zone
1 node to exchange netmail with a Fidonet zone 2 node via a Synchronet BBS?
Digital Man wrote to Gamgee <=-
Re: Re: Automatic Network selection for netmail
By: Gamgee to Digital Man on Mon Oct 10 2022 09:39 pm
Is there a way to let Synchronet know that zones 1 through 4 are
all in Fidonet?
Certainly. From my /sbbs/ctrl/sbbsecho.ini :
[domain:fidonet]
Zones = 1,2,3,4
DNSSuffix = binkp.net
NodeList = /sbbs/fido/nodelist/NODELIST.217
You should have a "domain" declaration section for each network that
your system is connected to.
Synchronet (e.g. sbbs) doesn't read/use the sbbsecho.ini file, so
it doesn't know anything about FTN domains.
But.... we're talking about netmail... Isn't netmail sent with
sbbsecho?
Normally, yes, but that's not strictly required. SBBSecho is the officially supported FTN tosser/scanner, but it hasn't always
been the *only* one.
When I write a netmail to someone in Zone 2, the choice of originating
FTN address defaults to my Zone 1 address. Same if I write to Zone 3 or
4. If I write to Zone 21, it "knows" to default to my Zone 21 address
as originator.
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What are you puzzled about?
What are you puzzled about?
I guess I'm puzzled at how defining the FTN domains in sbbsecho.ini
isn't the correct answer to the original question about having FidoNet
know it uses Zones 1-4. It sure seems to be doing that on my system.
Charles Blackburn wrote to Gamgee <=-
There seems to be something wrong with your Shift key.
noooo really? i thought that's what the CAPS LOCK button was for :PThat's similar to the Shift key, but not the same.
yea i know, but i'm too lazy to do that. it doesn't make it anyWell, actually it does.
less readable :D
It also makes you seem like MRO, which is not a good thing. Only people who dropped out of school at about 4th/5th grade write like that.
Really. Do yourself a favor and write like an adult.
dragon wrote to Digital Man <=-
Re: Automatic Network selection for netmail
By: Charles Blackburn to Digital Man on Sun Oct 09 2022 08:12 am
Is there a way to let Synchronet know that zones 1 through 4 are
all in Fidonet?
Certainly. From my /sbbs/ctrl/sbbsecho.ini :
[domain:fidonet]
Zones = 1,2,3,4
DNSSuffix = binkp.net
NodeList = /sbbs/fido/nodelist/NODELIST.217
When I write a netmail to someone in Zone 2, the choice of originating
FTN address defaults to my Zone 1 address. Same if I write to Zone 3 or
4. If I write to Zone 21, it "knows" to default to my Zone 21 address
as originator.
Normally, yes, but that's not strictly required. SBBSecho is the
officially supported FTN tosser/scanner, but it hasn't always
been the *only* one.
Okay.... but for most (nearly all) current SBBS sysops, it's what is being used, I'd guess. I understand what you're saying about *SBBS* not using sbbsecho.ini, but for all intents and purposes, the *BBS system*
is using it for knowing how to send/route netmail.
Digital Man wrote to Gamgee <=-
Re: Re: Automatic Network selection for netmail
By: Gamgee to Digital Man on Tue Oct 11 2022 05:37 pm
What are you puzzled about?
I guess I'm puzzled at how defining the FTN domains in sbbsecho.ini
isn't the correct answer to the original question about having FidoNet
know it uses Zones 1-4. It sure seems to be doing that on my system.
The original question was about having Synchronet (sbbs) set the
default source address to another zone within the same
network/domain when replying a netmail message. I think my recent
commit addresses the request.
When I write a netmail to someone in Zone 2, the choice of originatingThat may have something to do with how you set up your FTN addresses in SCFG. If your default address is a Z1 address, it is probably going to use that one for any other zones it does not find a
FTN address defaults to my Zone 1 address. Same if I write to Zone 3 or
4. If I write to Zone 21, it "knows" to default to my Zone 21 address
as originator.
match for.
There are also some settings in sbbsecho.ini, but I am not sure if it uses those for picking the zone to put on the netmail
or only to route it, i.e.
[node:2:ALL]
(stuff removed)
Route = 1:154/10
[node:3:ALL]
(stuff removed)
Route = 1:154/10
[node:4:ALL]
(stuff removed)
Route = 1:154/10
Okay.... but for most (nearly all) current SBBS sysops, it's what is being used, I'd guess. I understand what you're
saying about *SBBS* not using sbbsecho.ini, but for all intents and purposes, the *BBS system*
is using it for knowing how to send/route netmail.
Yeah, that's basically how I think of it. Since sbbsecho is included with Synchronet (and I think has been since I started
using Synchronet), I tend to think of sbbsecho as a component of Synchronet/SBBS. And sbbsecho seems to do the job, and I
don't know of another tosser I'd rather use in place of it.
don't know of another tosser I'd rather use in place of it.
as a brit, "tosser" has multiple connotations :D
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