Why are the version numbers different for Windows and Linux Synchronet BBS?
Re: Versions
By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Sun Jan 02 2022 12:56 pm
Hi Rob,
In case not aware, Janis closed up on the 31st. We are reworking the filebone.
To get them hatched out (you may have taken care of that already) but get them to Vince Cohen or Dallas Hinton (or me). Announcements in the wings shortly. If you need emails: I am at cshenk54@yahoo.com.
More info later as a filebone redevelops.
Re: Versions
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Sun Jan 02 2022 11:59 am
They're not. If you're talking about Vertrauen (i.e. cvs.synchro.net versus vert.synchro.net), that just means I haven't re-build/run all instances of sbbs on Vertrauen yet.
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Why is there no YouTube video for 3.19b?
Re: Versions
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Mon Jan 03 2022 07:22 pm
Because you haven't made one yet. :-P
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Re: Versions
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Mon Jan 03 2022 07:22 pm
Because you haven't made one yet. :-P
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The Millionaire wrote to Digital Man <=-
I was abashed to see a new version.
Now that's what I call a fantastic surprise! :-)
The Millionaire wrote to Digital Man <=-
Why is there no YouTube video for 3.19b?
Why would there be?
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The Millionaire wrote to Gamgee <=-
Why would there be?
There was one for 3.18b.
Why is there no YouTube video for 3.19b?
Ahhh, so there was! I sometimes forget that people use SBBS on Windows.
Thanks for reminding me! ;-)
Nightfox wrote to Gamgee <=-
Ahhh, so there was! I sometimes forget that people use SBBS on Windows. Thanks for reminding me! ;-)
I've been running Synchronet on Windows since I started using
Synchronet. I've thought of switching it over to Linux but just
haven't yet.
Re: Re: Versions
By: Gamgee to The Millionaire on Tue Jan 04 2022 08:47 pm
I've been running Synchronet on Windows since I started using Synchronet. I've thought of switching it over to Linux but just haven't yet.
Nightfox
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Linux is a great alternative to Windows. I ran it before when I had a desktop pc and loved it.
Re: Re: Versions
By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Wed Jan 05 2022 12:35 pm
Linux is a great alternative to Windows. I ran it before when I had a desktop pc and loved it.
I have a second PC running Linux (which I use as a Plex media server, among other things). I actually have my BBS running in a Windows virtual machine on that PC. So far I've kept my BBS in Windows, partly because if it's not broken then don't fix it. It would take some work to get it migraded to Linux, though I imagine it probably wouldn't be too difficult. I do have one Win32 door set up on my BBS (Ambroshia: Test of Time), which has been played before by some users on my BBS, but I'm not sure how much it would be missed.
Linux is a great alternative to Windows. I ran it before when I had a desktop pc and loved it.
You can actually run *both*, like I do. So long as the Linux-sbbs
instance and the Windows-sbbs instances have access to the same sbbs directory tree, they can live together harmoneously, serving a
different set of nodes each (that the purpose of the
FirstNode/LastNode values in your sbbs.ini file). I actually run 3
instances of sbbs: Win7-32 on bbs.synchronet, Win10-64 on
vert.synchro.net and Debian-Linux-64 on cvs.synchro.net.
I have a second PC running Linux (which I use as a Plex media server,
among other things). I actually have my BBS running in a Windows
virtual machine on that PC. So far I've kept my BBS in Windows,
You can actually run *both*, like I do. So long as the Linux-sbbs instance and the Windows-sbbs instances have access to the same sbbs directory tree, they can live together harmoneously, serving a different set of nodes each (that the purpose of the FirstNode/LastNode values in your sbbs.ini file). I actually run 3 instances of sbbs: Win7-32 on bbs.synchronet, Win10-64 on vert.synchro.net and Debian-Linux-64 on cvs.synchro.net.
If you want to know more about how to do that, just ask. There may be a wiki page on it already or I if not, I should write one.
Re: Re: Versions
By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Wed Jan 05 2022 12:35:54
Can't you install it on your I-Pad? It would be a really great way for you to do the things with the stuff.
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I've wondered about that. I might try doing that to make sure I have a working setup in Linux before fully moving my Synchronet over to Linux (if I ever end up doing that).
You can actually run *both*, like I do. So long as the Linux-sbbs instance and the Windows-sbbs instances have access to the same sbbs directory tree, they can live together harmoneously, serving a
different set of nodes each (that the purpose of the
FirstNode/LastNode values in your sbbs.ini file). I actually run 3 instances of sbbs: Win7-32 on bbs.synchronet, Win10-64 on vert.synchro.net and Debian-Linux-64 on cvs.synchro.net.
That's fascinating. When you say each instances have access, do you mean like via SMB shared drive/folders?
Aside, I was musing the other day -- would it be possible to launch Linux doors/xtrn programs from Win32 SBBS using WSL2 on the same machine? I'm
not sure how the output would be piped to the user, but since Win now has the ability to directly launch a linux kernal... that would be pretty
slick. I'm sure this is a naive assumption, tho :)
Almost anything's possible with enough effort.
Re: Re: Versions
By: Digital Man to Robbie Whiting on Thu Jan 06 2022 11:53 am
Almost anything's possible with enough effort.
is that another take on "Anything's a dildo if you're brave enough"
Re: Re: Versions
By: MRO to Digital Man on Thu Jan 06 2022 04:58 pm
Never heard that one. <smirk>
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On 01-05-22 17:40, Digital Man wrote to Nightfox <=-
You can actually run *both*, like I do. So long as the Linux-sbbs
instance and the Windows-sbbs instances have access to the same sbbs directory tree, they can live together harmoneously, serving a
different set of nodes each (that the purpose of the FirstNode/LastNode values in your sbbs.ini file). I actually run 3 instances of sbbs:
Win7-32 on bbs.synchronet, Win10-64 on vert.synchro.net and Debian-Linux-64 on cvs.synchro.net.
If you want to know more about how to do that, just ask. There may be a wiki page on it already or I if not, I should write one.
On 01-05-22 17:40, Digital Man wrote to Nightfox <=-
You can actually run *both*, like I do. So long as the Linux-sbbs instance and the Windows-sbbs instances have access to the same sbbs directory tree, they can live together harmoneously, serving a different set of nodes each (that the purpose of the FirstNode/LastNode values in your sbbs.ini file). I actually run 3 instances of sbbs: Win7-32 on bbs.synchronet, Win10-64 on vert.synchro.net and Debian-Linux-64 on cvs.synchro.net.
If you want to know more about how to do that, just ask. There may be a wiki page on it already or I if not, I should write one.
Interesting. Definitely deserves a Wiki page, if there isn't one already.
I've been running Synchronet on Windows since I started using Synchronet. I've thought of switching it over to Linux but just haven't yet.
Nightfox
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Linux is a great alternative to Windows. I ran it before when I had a desktop pc and loved it.
You can actually run *both*, like I do. So long as the Linux-sbbs
instance and the Windows-sbbs instances have access to the same
sbbs directory tree, they can live together harmoneously, serving
Interesting. Definitely deserves a Wiki page, if there isn't one
already.
I'll probably do that, but the main information needed is on this wiki page already: http://wiki.synchro.net/config:sbbs.ini (search for "instance")
Linux is a great alternative to Windows. I ran it before when I had
a desktop pc and loved it.
I switched because of the 16 bit door games, but I am considering using an old windows machine and switching back now with that NTVM hack. Probably not out of laziness though. I am also hesitant to upgrade with my linux skills being basic.
Re: Re: Versions
By: Digital Man to Tony Langdon on Thu Jan 06 2022 10:14 pm
You can actually run *both*, like I do. So long as the Linux-sbbs DM>> instance and the Windows-sbbs instances have access to the same
sbbs directory tree, they can live together harmoneously, serving
Interesting. Definitely deserves a Wiki page, if there isn't one
already.
I'll probably do that, but the main information needed is on this wiki page already: http://wiki.synchro.net/config:sbbs.ini (search for "instance")
I started to wonder how two different instances could handle telnet, RLogin, SSH, etc. on the same ports - I was going to check the wiki and see what's there regarding this.
Re: Re: Versions
By: The Lizard Master to The Millionaire on Fri Jan 07 2022 11:57 am
Linux is a great alternative to Windows. I ran it before when I had
a desktop pc and loved it.
I switched because of the 16 bit door games, but I am considering using an old windows machine and switching back now with that NTVM hack. Probably not out of laziness though. I am also hesitant to upgrade with my linux skills being basic.
It seems that NTVDM hack may only work on Windows up to 10. I tried installing it on my Windows 11 desktop and had some trouble (it gave an error when trying to install one of its pieces, and I still couldn't run 16-bit DOS software).
Also, Microsoft Security Essentials in Windows 11
keeps reporting that it found a virus or some kind of malware in that NTVDM hack..
It seems that NTVDM hack may only work on Windows up to 10. I tried
installing it on my Windows 11 desktop and had some trouble (it gave
an error when trying to install one of its pieces, and I still
couldn't run 16-bit DOS software).
It does reportedly work on Windows 11 however (I have not tried myself): https://github.com/leecher1337/ntvdmx64
Also, Microsoft Security Essentials in Windows 11
keeps reporting that it found a virus or some kind of malware in that
NTVDM hack..
False positive, just mark it as such.
Linux is a great alternative to Windows. I ran it before when I had
a desktop pc and loved it.
I have a second PC running Linux (which I use as a Plex media server, among other things). I actually have my BBS running in a Windows virtual machine on that PC. So far I've kept my BBS in Windows, partly because if it's not broken then don't fix it. It would take some work to get it migraded to Linux, though I imagine it probably wouldn't be too difficult. I do have one Win32 door set up on my BBS (Ambroshia: Test of Time), which has been played before by some users on my BBS, but I'm not sure how much it would be missed.
Re: Re: Versions
By: Nightfox to The Millionaire on Wed Jan 05 2022 01:12 pm
I'm just curious why you downvoted this reply of mine? I didn't say anything negative to you. You also downvoted several others of my posts in this thread which weren't even in reply to you.
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Re: Versions
By: Carol Shenkenberger to Digital Man on Mon Jan 03 2022 08:17 pm
Re: Versions
By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Sun Jan 02 2022 12:56 pm
Hi Rob,
In case not aware, Janis closed up on the 31st. We are reworking the filebone.
To get them hatched out (you may have taken care of that already) but get them to Vince Cohen or Dallas Hinton (or me). Announcements in the wings shortly. If you need emails: I am at cshenk54@yahoo.com.
More info later as a filebone redevelops.
Okay, thanks for keeping me up to date. I have not hatched Synchronet releas --
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The Millionaire wrote to Gamgee <=-
Why don't we call a truce here ok? Stop downvoting and I will as
well. Sounds fair enough to me.
The Millionaire wrote to Nightfox <=-anything
Re: Re: Versions
By: Nightfox to The Millionaire on Wed Jan 05 2022 01:12 pm
I'm just curious why you downvoted this reply of mine? I didn't say
negative to you. You also downvoted several others of my posts in this thread which weren't even in reply to you.
I am trying to prove a point to Gamgee. Sorry Nightfox.
BTW, kudos to SBBS for some rather robust dup checking.
anything
How is downvoting Nightfox's messages "proving" anything to me?
Jesus you're a strange one.
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Why don't we call a truce here ok? Stop downvoting and I will as
well. Sounds fair enough to me.
Stop upvoting EVERY SINGLE ONE of your OWN POSTS.
On 01-06-22 22:14, Digital Man wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
Interesting. Definitely deserves a Wiki page, if there isn't one already.
I'll probably do that, but the main information needed is on this wiki page already: http://wiki.synchro.net/config:sbbs.ini (search for "instance") --
digital man (rob)
On 01-07-22 09:25, Nightfox wrote to Digital Man <=-
I started to wonder how two different instances could handle telnet, RLogin, SSH, etc. on the same ports - I was going to check the wiki and see what's there regarding this.
Why don't we call a truce here ok? Stop downvoting and I will as well. Sounds fair enough to me.
Stop upvoting EVERY SINGLE ONE of your OWN POSTS.
Does this have any practical affect?
Exactly. Did anyone really lose or gain anything from the vote regardless if it was up or down?
Exactly. Did anyone really lose or gain anything from the vote regardless if it was up or down?
In reality it doesn't do much. Votes here are mostly a way of saying "I
saw
and liked/disliked your message" without having to write out a reply.
If the voting feature was more widely-used, then we could use votes for sorting, showing, hiding messages, but there just isn't enough uptake to make that worthwhile at the moment.
Stop upvoting EVERY SINGLE ONE of your OWN POSTS.
Does this have any practical affect?
If the voting feature was more widely-used, then we could use votes for sorting, showing, hiding messages, but there just isn't enough uptake to make that worthwhile at the moment.
Re: Re: Versions
By: The Lizard Master to Gamgee on Sat Jan 08 2022 12:18 pm
Stop upvoting EVERY SINGLE ONE of your OWN POSTS.
Does this have any practical affect?
It just seems a little tacky/odd to upvote one's own messages. If I see that a message has been upvoted or downvoted, it's at least a sign that the message was liked or disliked. I might be curious who upvoted/downvoted it, and when I see that someone has upvoted their own message, it just seems odd. It's like someone patting themsef on the back, proud of what they've posted. But otherwise it does no harm..
These are bbses, not reddit.
back to bbses, i feel this voting thing was interesting in concept, but when implimented it just didn't pan out. bbs people dont want to vote or u
I'd hope messages wouldn't be auto-sorted or auto-hidden based on their votes. I'd still like to read the messages in the same order they were written regardless of their votes.
Re: Re: Versions
By: echicken to Sys64738 on Tue Jan 11 2022 05:02 pm
If the voting feature was more widely-used, then we could use votes for sorting, showing, hiding messages, but there just isn't enough uptake to make that worthwhile at the moment.
I'd hope messages wouldn't be auto-sorted or auto-hidden based on their votes. I'd still like to read the messages in the same order they were written regardless of their votes.
I've also seen some online forum sites (such as Reddit) that will hide messages if they have too many downvotes, but sometimes I'm curious what was said that made so many people downvote it.
It just seems a little tacky/odd to upvote one's own messages. If I
see that a message has been upvoted or downvoted, it's at least a sign
that the message was liked or disliked. I might be curious who
upvoted/downvoted it, and when I see that someone has upvoted their
own message, it just seems odd. It's like someone patting themsef on
the back, proud of what they've posted. But otherwise it does no
harm..
maybe they are trolling you because they know you would look
back to bbses, i feel this voting thing was interesting in concept, but when implimented it just didn't pan out. bbs people dont want to vote or upvote or downvote posts.
The internal message reader in Synchronet has this option:
List Messages
H Highest ranked msgs
Which takes into account replies and votes.
maybe they are trolling you because they know you would look
I continually see The Millionaire upvote his own messages on Dove-net. I somehow doubt he has been doing that to troll everyone here the whole time.
I continually see The Millionaire upvote his own messages on Dove-net. I somehow doubt he has been doing that to troll everyone here the whole time.
I continually see The Millionaire upvote his own messages on Dove-net.
I somehow doubt he has been doing that to troll everyone here the
whole time.
How do you "see" that? Normally, only the original poster gets notified of up or down-votes of their own posts.
Re: Re: Versions
By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Tue Jan 11 2022 06:27 pm
I continually see The Millionaire upvote his own messages on Dove-net.
I somehow doubt he has been doing that to troll everyone here the
whole time.
How do you "see" that? Normally, only the original poster gets notified of up or down-votes of their own posts.
When reading a message, the reader tells you how many upvotes & downvotes the message has. In my message reader, I had added a sysop command to view the tally information (included who voted on it). Normally it shows The Millionaire's messages have an upvote, and the tally information shows The Millionaire voted on it.
When reading a message, the reader tells you how many upvotes &
downvotes the message has. In my message reader, I had added a sysop
command to view the tally information (included who voted on it).
Normally it shows The Millionaire's messages have an upvote, and the
tally information shows The Millionaire voted on it.
Ah, I see, a special feature of DDMessageReader. :-)
On other platforms I scroll past most content without 'liking' or upvoting it. It's not that it's a lot of extra effort, but I can't be bothered. I'm sure I'm not alone in this, and we have a much smaller pool of potential voters here, so there are very few votes.
harm..
maybe they are trolling you because they know you would look
I continually see The Millionaire upvote his own messages on Dove-net. I somehow doubt he has been doing that to troll everyone here the whole time.
I continually see The Millionaire upvote his own messages on Dove-net.
I somehow doubt he has been doing that to troll everyone here the
whole time.
are you SURE? you seem to be monitoring it and it bothers you.
and he's doing it a lot. and you check it each time.
sounds like successful trolling to me.
A while ago I noticed pretty much all of his posts had an upvote, and I thought that was odd since people rarely use the voting feature. I started checking and saw that all his upvotes were his own. It doesn't bother me, it just seems odd that someone would upvote their own posts.
A while ago I noticed pretty much all of his posts had an upvote,
and I thought that was odd since people rarely use the voting
feature. I started checking and saw that all his upvotes were his
own. It doesn't bother me, it just seems odd that someone would
upvote their own posts.
Never heard of Reddit, huh? ;)
When reading a message, the reader tells you how many upvotes & downvotes the message has. In my message reader, I had added a sysop command to view the tally information (included who voted on it). Normally it shows The Millionaire's messages have an upvote, and the tally information shows The Millionaire voted on it.
are you SURE? you seem to be monitoring it and it bothers you.
and he's doing it a lot. and you check it each time.
sounds like successful trolling to me.
How do you know I check it each time?
A while ago I noticed pretty much all of his posts had an upvote, and I thought that was odd since people rarely use the voting feature. I started checking and saw that all his upvotes were his own. It doesn't bother me, it just seems odd that someone would upvote their own posts.
Re: Re: Versions
By: Shaun Buzza to Nightfox on Wed Jan 12 2022 12:52 pm
A while ago I noticed pretty much all of his posts had an upvote,
and I thought that was odd since people rarely use the voting
feature. I started checking and saw that all his upvotes were his
own. It doesn't bother me, it just seems odd that someone would
upvote their own posts.
Never heard of Reddit, huh? ;)
I use Reddit. What about it?
Re: Re: Versions
By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Tue Jan 11 2022 06:40 pm
thats too bad. maybe votes should be anonymous
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When reading a message, the reader tells you how many upvotes &
downvotes the message has. In my message reader, I had added a sysop
command to view the tally information (included who voted on it).
Normally it shows The Millionaire's messages have an upvote, and the
tally information shows The Millionaire voted on it.
thats too bad. maybe votes should be anonymous
I'd hope messages wouldn't be auto-sorted or auto-hidden based on their votes. >'d still like to read the messages in the same order they were written regardle
s of their votes.
I continually see The Millionaire upvote his own messages on Dove-net. I some
w doubt he has been doing that to troll everyone here the whole time.
He may be falsely assuming that it causes his messages to be more likely to be read, as it would on a social media platform.
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I continually see The Millionaire upvote his own messages on Dove-net. I
w doubt he has been doing that to troll everyone here the whole time.
He may be falsely assuming that it causes his messages to be more
likely to be read, as it would on a social media platform.
The Millionaire wrote to Dumas Walker <=-
He may be falsely assuming that it causes his messages to be more likely to be read, as it would on a social media platform.
I don't give a XXXX either way if my messages are read or not. I
just like to talk with people and that's it. I don't upvote my
messages to make people read them, I upvote because I think I had something great to express myself with.
some
That's absolutely the reason, with a side helping of making it appear
that he is a profoundly knowledgeable and well-versed contributor to
all things SBBS. Even though he has never run it. Hahahaha
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Hahahahaha! That's the funniest thing I've read all day.
What a load of horsefeathers.
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people read them, I upvote because I think I had something great to express myself with.
He may be falsely assuming that it causes his messages to be more likely to >> be read, as it would on a social media platform.
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I don't give a XXXX either way if my messages are read or not. I just like to talk with people and that's it. I don't upvote my messages to make people read
them, I upvote because I think I had something great to express myself with.
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Re: Re: Versions
By: MRO to Nightfox on Wed Jan 12 2022 12:48 pm
When reading a message, the reader tells you how many upvotes &
downvotes the message has. In my message reader, I had added a sysop
command to view the tally information (included who voted on it).
Normally it shows The Millionaire's messages have an upvote, and the
tally information shows The Millionaire voted on it.
thats too bad. maybe votes should be anonymous
Why is it "too bad"?
Nightfox
I continually see The Millionaire upvote his own messages on Dove-net. I some
w doubt he has been doing that to troll everyone here the whole time.
He may be falsely assuming that it causes his messages to be more likely to be read, as it would on a social media platform.
I upvote because I think I had something great to express myself with.
Aside, I was musing the other day -- would it be possible to launch Linux doors/xtrn programs from Win32 SBBS using WSL2 on the same machine? I'mAssuming it's in /mnt/c/sbbs/xtrn/doorname or similar...
not sure how the output would be piped to the user, but since Win now has
the ability to directly launch a linux kernal... that would be pretty
slick. I'm sure this is a naive assumption, tho :)
He may be falsely assuming that it causes his messages to be more likely to
be read, as it would on a social media platform.
but he's right. he's getting the attention he wants.
What a load of horsefeathers.
Dumas Walker wrote to GAMGEE <=-
What a load of horsefeathers.
Colonel Potter, is that you? :D
What a load of horsefeathers.
Colonel Potter, is that you? :D
All I can think of was the episode where Corporal Max Klinger was
trying to forge Colonel Potter's signature (Sherman T. Potter). As
it turned out, Potter denied it, telling Klinger "You put too much
swoop on the T". <G>
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