I have had a couple of users ask, so...

Am I correct in telling them that there is no way to directly download a
file or QWK packet from the ftelnet session?


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Re: ftelnet and downloads
By: Dumas Walker to ALL on Thu May 06 2021 04:54 pm

I have had a couple of users ask, so...

Am I correct in telling them that there is no way to directly download a file or QWK packet from the ftelnet session?

They should be able to download via ftelnet using the YMODEM-G protocol (it supports only YMODEM-G).
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I have had a couple of users ask, so...

Am I correct in telling them that there is no way to directly download a
file or QWK packet from the ftelnet session?

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I download through ECWEB4 from the files area and works for me no problem.

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They should be able to download via ftelnet using the YMODEM-G protocol (it su
orts only YMODEM-G).

That does not work here. The result is "<filename> not downloaded!".

I tried it with Firefox 86.0 on a 64-bit ubuntu machine. I was in a
private window, if that should matter at all.


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Re: ftelnet and downloads
By: Dumas Walker to DIGITAL MAN on Fri May 07 2021 02:11 pm

They should be able to download via ftelnet using the YMODEM-G protocol (it su
orts only YMODEM-G).

That does not work here. The result is "<filename> not downloaded!".

I tried it with Firefox 86.0 on a 64-bit ubuntu machine. I was in a
private window, if that should matter at all.

You do have to start the download in fTelnet (e.g. client Menu->Download). YMODEM-G is not an auto-start protocol like ZMODEM.
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You do have to start the download in fTelnet (e.g. client Menu->Download). YMOD
M-G is not an auto-start protocol like ZMODEM.

I had forgotten that. It seemed to reject it pretty fast, though. I will
have to try it again and see if I can get the download started before it
throws the error.


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You do have to start the download in fTelnet (e.g. client Menu->Download). YMODEM-G is not an auto-start protocol like >ZMODEM.

Hmmm... there is no menu in my ftelnet window to choose Download from. Where are you seeing that? What browsers does that work with?

I tried right-clicking in the ftelnet window in a Firefox session but the menu that came up didn't include any download choices... only choices about saving the image and a few other options you normally get when right-clicking in a web browser.

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Re: ftelnet and downloads
By: Dumas Walker to Digital Man on Mon May 10 2021 02:26 pm

You do have to start the download in fTelnet (e.g. client Menu->Download). YMODEM-G is not an auto-start protocol like >ZMODEM.

Hmmm... there is no menu in my ftelnet window to choose Download from.
Where are you seeing that?

https://1drv.ms/u/s!ApZPvWcrEaRQxbBph8ug0-oZpZnmDw?e=M6LfWP

What browsers does that work with?

Any that support HTML5 I think.

I tried right-clicking in the ftelnet window in a Firefox session but the menu that came up didn't include any download choices... only choices about saving the image and a few other options you normally get when right-clicking in a web browser.

It's not a right-click menu.
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Re: ftelnet and downloads
By: Dumas Walker to Digital Man on Mon May 10 2021 02:26 pm

https://1drv.ms/u/s!ApZPvWcrEaRQxbBph8ug0-oZpZnmDw?e=M6LfWP

I am using ecwebv3 and am not seeing that menu on the main page where the ftelnet option is.

Any that support HTML5 I think.

I assume that Firefox 86.0 does.

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Re: ftelnet and downloads
By: Dumas Walker to Digital Man on Tue May 11 2021 09:35 am

Re: ftelnet and downloads
By: Dumas Walker to Digital Man on Mon May 10 2021 02:26 pm

https://1drv.ms/u/s!ApZPvWcrEaRQxbBph8ug0-oZpZnmDw?e=M6LfWP

I am using ecwebv3 and am not seeing that menu on the main page where the ftelnet option is.

It's available when using the legacy/runemaster Web UI or ecwebv4. There's likely an ftelnet option you can set to enable it or maybe you just need to upgrade ftelnet to a newer version which includes the download option.
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Re: ftelnet and downloads
By: Dumas Walker to Digital Man on Tue May 11 2021 09:35 am

I am using ecwebv3 and am not seeing that menu on the main page where the ftelnet option is.

There is an option in modopts.ini, ftelnet_menubar=true that will enable a few things, this is one of them if I remember right.

I tried this but never had success with it. If you do I'd like to hear about it.

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Re: ftelnet and downloads
By: Al to Dumas Walker on Tue May 11 2021 09:14 pm

Re: ftelnet and downloads
By: Dumas Walker to Digital Man on Tue May 11 2021 09:35 am

I am using ecwebv3 and am not seeing that menu on the main page where the ftelnet option is.

There is an option in modopts.ini, ftelnet_menubar=true that will enable a few things, this is one of them if I remember right.

I tried this but never had success with it. If you do I'd like to hear about it.

Good find!

I do have that too:
modopts.ini:
[web]
ftelnet_menubar = true
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Al wrote:

Re: ftelnet and downloads
By: Dumas Walker to Digital Man on Tue May 11 2021 09:35 am

I am using ecwebv3 and am not seeing that menu on the main page where the
ftelnet option is.

There is an option in modopts.ini, ftelnet_menubar=true that will enable a few things, this is one of them if I remember right.

I tried this but never had success with it. If you do I'd like to hear about it.

There's no ftelnet_menubar in modopts.ini

Neither is there reference to it in the ftelnet.js file either.

Anyway, menu only has Connect, Disconnect, Copy, Paste, Keyboard, and Full Screen. Nothing about downloading.

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Re: Re: ftelnet and downloads
By: Nelgin to Al on Wed May 12 2021 11:20 am

Al wrote:

Re: ftelnet and downloads
By: Dumas Walker to Digital Man on Tue May 11 2021 09:35 am

I am using ecwebv3 and am not seeing that menu on the main page where the
ftelnet option is.

There is an option in modopts.ini, ftelnet_menubar=true that will enable a few things, this is one of them if I remember right.

I tried this but never had success with it. If you do I'd like to hear about it.

There's no ftelnet_menubar in modopts.ini

Then you can add it. It's documented at http://wiki.synchro.net/config:webv4

Neither is there reference to it in the ftelnet.js file either.

It's referenced in webv4/pages/000-home.xjs

Anyway, menu only has Connect, Disconnect, Copy, Paste, Keyboard, and Full Screen. Nothing about downloading.

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Re: Re: ftelnet and downloads
By: Nelgin to Al on Wed May 12 2021 11:20 am

Anyway, menu only has Connect, Disconnect, Copy, Paste, Keyboard, and Full Screen. Nothing about downloading.

http://acgs.alleycatbbs.com/images/ftelnet.png

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It's available when using the legacy/runemaster Web UI or ecwebv4. There's lik
y an ftelnet option you can set to enable it or maybe you just need to upgrade
telnet to a newer version which includes the download option.

I pointed mine to the webv4 directory and still got the same thing.

I add the option for the toolbar to modopts, which turned the toolbar on
but it still does not have a download option, and synchronet still aborts
the transfer almost immediately... so if I did have one I doubt I would
have a chance to select it.

How do you upgrade the ftelnet used with synchronet?

I checked the ..\webv4\lib\ftelnet.js. It has a function to pull the
splash and appears to be looking for settings.ftelnet_splash which is in modopts.ini. It also has this section:

function get_variant() {
if (!settings) return 'norip.noxfer';
return (settings.ftelnet_rip ? 'rip' : 'norip') + '.' +
(settings.ftelnet_xfer ? 'xfer' : 'noxfer');
}

I tried adding ftelnet_xfer=true, ftelnet_xfer=xfer, and ftelnet_xfer to modopts but no dice. What is this function looking for?

Also, is there a place where one can see what URL was built to make the
ftelnet call? That is where the result of this function ultimately appears
to go.


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There is an option in modopts.ini, ftelnet_menubar=true that will enable a few
hings, this is one of them if I remember right.

I tried this but never had success with it. If you do I'd like to hear about i

Thanks that turned the menu bar on all right, but still no joy with downloading.


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