• Re: [WINServer] Error & Template files

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    In the HTTP\TEMPLATE and HTTP\ERROR where you defined the web path for
    the VDG.

    What is the Web Path for your VDG?



    On 11/25/2018 5:21 PM, David King wrote:
    Hi


    Can someone please advise where the template & error files should be
    placed for a Virtual Domain ?

    Also where can I find a list of the error files that are needed /
    allowed likewise with the error files.

    Regards

    Dave

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    Its actually http\errors\ not http\error\

    Read this online help

    http://www.winserver.com/public/aup/Wildcat-Create-Virtual-Domain.htm

    Its also in the AUP.CHM search for virtual domains.

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    On 11/25/2018 5:46 PM, Hector Santos wrote:
    In the HTTP\TEMPLATE and HTTP\ERROR where you defined the web path for
    the VDG.

    What is the Web Path for your VDG?



    On 11/25/2018 5:21 PM, David King wrote:
    Hi


    Can someone please advise where the template & error files should be
    placed for a Virtual Domain ?

    Also where can I find a list of the error files that are needed /
    allowed likewise with the error files.

    Regards

    Dave



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    On 11/26/2018 7:56 AM, David King wrote:


    OK I have a file withing the \errors\custom directory called notfound.html
    which should, I believe return for a page not found.

    When I enter: http://www.military.world/errors/custom/notfound.html the page
    displays correctly.
    The local directory location for this is d:\web\Military
    World\errors\custom\notfound.html
    The Virtual Domain points to its public director as d:\web\Military World\

    However if I enter http://www.military.world/nonexistantpage.html which is a
    non-existent page I get the standard wildcat Error 404 page rather than my custom page.
    I accept that I maybe doing something wrong but I am confused as to what ?

    Hi David,

    This is a very good support question. I will answer in the mailing
    list since it will benefit others.

    Ok, as of 7.0.454.4, these are stock files in the http\errors\ subfolder

    - 2012/06/11 03:14:04 | 3922 | http\errors\readme_errors.txt
    - 2012/05/29 02:54:41 | 2905 | http\errors\errors.wct
    - 2008/12/25 11:45:32 | 772 | http\errors\NoClientAccess.wct
    - 2008/09/24 21:15:48 | 473 | http\errors\NotFound.wct
    - 2002/07/12 06:34:58 | 600 | http\errors\NotValidated.htm
    - 2007/03/02 14:25:30 | 2415 | http\errors\NotValidated.wct
    - 2008/01/07 08:28:40 | 1802 | http\errors\passwordchange.wct
    - 2009/03/14 19:35:18 | 80 | http\errors\SignupAlreadyDone.wct
    - 2002/07/12 04:27:38 | 208 | http\errors\SignupDupeAccount.htm
    - 2009/01/17 06:40:24 | 1580 | http\errors\UserNotLoggedIn.wct
    - 2012/06/11 03:14:31 | 144 | http\errors\verinfo.dat

    You made a copy of your default wcat HTTP\template and HTTP\Errors
    into your VDG

    d:\web\Military World\errors\

    The AUP Virtual Domains help explains what needs to be copied to a new VDG

    http://www.winserver.com/public/aup/Wildcat-Create-Virtual-Domain.htm

    So now you want to customize the http\errors\notfound.wct, so you created

    d:\web\Military World\errors\custom\notfound.html

    and it doesn't work for you, you don't see your custom web page.

    The solution:

    The custom replacement is not NotFound.html but NotFound.wct, so
    rename it notfound.wct and you will see it work. The trick is match
    the file name of the stock template you are customizing. So in this
    case, you want to replace notfound.wct, not notfound.html.

    Hope this helps


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  • From winserver.support@winserver.com@1:124/5013 to All on Mon Nov 26 08:45:58 2018
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    Small follow up.

    If there was a reason you really needed to use the extension .HTM(L), then
    you have to remove the stock http\errors\notfound.wct.

    The reasons is this:

    A URL page could not be found, so wcWEB starts to do:

    - check for http\errors\notfound.wct
    - if found, check for a http\custom\notfound.wct
    - if not found, check for http\errors\notfound.htm
    - if found, check for a http\custom\notfound.htm
    - if not found, use internal not found message.

    Thats the sequence.


    On 11/26/2018 9:18 AM, Hector Santos wrote:
    On 11/26/2018 7:56 AM, David King wrote:


    OK I have a file withing the \errors\custom directory called
    notfound.html which should, I believe return for a page not found.

    When I enter: http://www.military.world/errors/custom/notfound.html
    the page displays correctly.
    The local directory location for this is d:\web\Military
    World\errors\custom\notfound.html
    The Virtual Domain points to its public director as d:\web\Military
    World\

    However if I enter http://www.military.world/nonexistantpage.html
    which is a non-existent page I get the standard wildcat Error 404
    page rather than my custom page.
    I accept that I maybe doing something wrong but I am confused as to
    what ?

    Hi David,

    This is a very good support question. I will answer in the mailing
    list since it will benefit others.

    Ok, as of 7.0.454.4, these are stock files in the http\errors\ subfolder

    - 2012/06/11 03:14:04 | 3922 | http\errors\readme_errors.txt
    - 2012/05/29 02:54:41 | 2905 | http\errors\errors.wct
    - 2008/12/25 11:45:32 | 772 | http\errors\NoClientAccess.wct
    - 2008/09/24 21:15:48 | 473 | http\errors\NotFound.wct
    - 2002/07/12 06:34:58 | 600 | http\errors\NotValidated.htm
    - 2007/03/02 14:25:30 | 2415 | http\errors\NotValidated.wct
    - 2008/01/07 08:28:40 | 1802 | http\errors\passwordchange.wct
    - 2009/03/14 19:35:18 | 80 | http\errors\SignupAlreadyDone.wct
    - 2002/07/12 04:27:38 | 208 | http\errors\SignupDupeAccount.htm
    - 2009/01/17 06:40:24 | 1580 | http\errors\UserNotLoggedIn.wct
    - 2012/06/11 03:14:31 | 144 | http\errors\verinfo.dat

    You made a copy of your default wcat HTTP\template and HTTP\Errors
    into your VDG

    d:\web\Military World\errors\

    The AUP Virtual Domains help explains what needs to be copied to a new
    VDG


    http://www.winserver.com/public/aup/Wildcat-Create-Virtual-Domain.htm

    So now you want to customize the http\errors\notfound.wct, so you created

    d:\web\Military World\errors\custom\notfound.html

    and it doesn't work for you, you don't see your custom web page.

    The solution:

    The custom replacement is not NotFound.html but NotFound.wct, so
    rename it notfound.wct and you will see it work. The trick is match
    the file name of the stock template you are customizing. So in this
    case, you want to replace notfound.wct, not notfound.html.

    Hope this helps



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    On 11/26/2018 10:44 AM, David King wrote:
    Hector

    OK so following your chronology the following:

    - check for http\errors\notfound.wct
    Entered: http://www.military.world/errors/notfound.wct
    Response: Error 00000002 Template File Not Found:
    wc:\http\errors\notfound.wct - Contact Web Master

    This is clearly a problem with your VDG setup.


    What I do know is that the page (notfound.html) exists but for some reason
    Wildcat isn't displaying it.

    For some reason Wildcat appears to search for the .wct and .htm
    extensions but not .html like it does elsewhere. I think that maybe
    the issue ? (please correct if I am wrong!)

    You are mixing things up. I am afraid I may confuse you.

    First, you need to get the VDG paths correct because if you get an
    ERROR 2 (FILE NOT FOUND) with your direct URL request:

    http://www.military.world/errors/notfound.wct

    then the folder does not exist or the file does not exist. Its that
    simple.

    Second, mixing up the ideas of *.WCT and *.HTM and *.HTML files and
    wcWEB treats them.

    Rather than to figure out what is confusing to you, lets begin with
    these two basic concepts:

    - Wildcat Template (WCT) HTML files
    - Pure HTML Files

    When you enter a URL in the browser, with the extension:

    .WCT Wildcat will process this file as a Template File
    .HTM(L) Wildcat will DUMP this file to the browser, not process.

    Again, that is WHEN you enter the URL yourself.

    This is MUCH different than how it works internally NOT ENTERING A
    URL, but how an WCX or WCWEB expects to do.

    Internally, it can be an WCX or wcWEB itself who is using the files in
    the http\template and http\errors folders. There are many optional
    file to dedending on the event. If WCX or WCWEB wants to do a
    template, despite the file name and extension, they will called:

    TemplateInit(filename, parameters)

    That begins the template processor and it doesn't matter what the
    extension is.

    This is why all the files in the HTTP\TEMPLATE\* are templates, even
    though there are mixed bags of *.HTM and *.WCT and also *.INC files.
    All templates because almost all of them are used by WCX applications
    or the wcWEB directly.

    For example, when you click "/client?who.wcn", wcWEB will run "/code/HTML-WHO.WCX" which will do the following:

    TemplateInit("WHOS_ONLINE.HTM","")

    to display the who's online.

    But if you did this directly,

    http://military.world/template/WHOS_ONLINE.HTM

    its not going to be processed as a templates. You're not support to
    access those files directly. This is why there are a mixture of *.HTM
    and *.WCT and even *.INC. It was all designed to be run via a WCX and
    not entered directly.

    So what about the HTTP\ERRORS\ folder?

    The files in the http\ERRORS\ folder and some other files in the
    HTTP\* and also HTTP\PUBLIC\*, the sequence I provided to you MAY
    apply, it depends.

    But look at it this way, NO ONE enters:

    http://www.military.world/errors/notfound.wct

    The concept of a "Not Found" display is as a response to a real not
    found problem like really have a non-existing file:

    http://www.military.world/MISSING.html

    Now the sequence I provided applies to the original idea of a
    "NOTFOUND.HTM" file:

    wcWEB sees MISSING.HTML does not exist, so it starts with setting the
    response path and file name using pseudo code logic:

    // Logic for Not found concept

    responsePath = "http\errors\"
    responseFile = "notfound.htm"

    // now check for .wct version

    If Exists(ForceExtension(responsePath+responseFile,"wct")) then
    responseFile = "notfound.wct"
    end if

    // now check for responsefile in custom path:

    If Exists(responsePath+"custom\"+responseFile) then
    responsePath = responsePath+"custom\"
    end if

    // now process *.WCT or dump *.HTM

    if GetExtension(ResponsePath+ResponseFile) = "WCT" then
    // we got a template file
    TemplateInit(ResponsePath+ResponseFile,"")
    // do a bunch of template stuff as it prints
    // to the browsers
    else
    // just dump to the browser, not processing
    PrintFile(ResponsePath+ResponseFile)
    end if

    Thats the basic idea. This is done for many files. Read the file:

    http\errors\readme_errors.txt

    The same logic is true for some other files in the HTTP\* and
    HTTP\PUBLIC\*, like:

    http\closed.wct or htm
    http\public\newuser.wct or htm

    and many more optional files that can be templates or pure html.

    I hope all this gives you some insight. The history is such that
    people only had *.HTM(l) and not *.WCT. Only over time, that we wanted
    to give them some template processing power, so if there was a
    matching *.WCT file, then the *.WCT was used.

    Fix the VDG path.



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    In the HTTP\TEMPLATE and HTTP\ERROR where you defined the web path for
    the VDG.

    What is the Web Path for your VDG?



    On 11/25/2018 5:21 PM, David King wrote:
    Hi


    Can someone please advise where the template & error files should be
    placed for a Virtual Domain ?

    Also where can I find a list of the error files that are needed /
    allowed likewise with the error files.

    Regards

    Dave

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