• RE: [WINServer] HTML Who is Online

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    Technically, for the web interface, I believe you ARE using a WCX for the web clients (files, messages, who is online, etc). But, I may be wrong.



    From: listadmin-winserver@winserver.com <listadmin-winserver@winserver.com> On Behalf Of Terry Roati
    Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 2:14 AM
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    Subject: [WINServer] HTML Who is Online



    Hello Hector,



    I am not using any WCX.



    When I log in as Sysop it is ok.







    When I log in as a Regular user, it doesn’t show a user.







    Just to let you know that when I tried to compile html-who.wcc it has errors.


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    From: Hector Santos <winserver.support@winserver.com>
    Organization: Santronics Software, Inc
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    Yes, there are 6/7 basic/stock WCN (Wildcat! Navigator Clients) for
    wcNAV and wcWeb:

    FILE.WCN File client
    MESSAGE.WCN Mail client
    WHO.WCN "Who's onLine" client
    CHAT.WCN Chat Client
    PERSONAL.WCN "Your Settings", well thats the idea, client
    TERM.WCN Terminal Client (Console)
    SYSOP.WCN Sysop Menu (WEB ONLY)

    So if you connected via WcNavigator, and it launch the browser and you
    one of the links, or via wcWEB login you checked the WcNavigator
    checkbox, then the special .WCN extension tells wcWEB what to do next:

    WCNAV: Run the client-side XXXXXX.EXE wcNAV client using registered
    browser association.

    WCWEB: Run the server-side HTML-xxxxxx.WCX client for WEB interfaces.

    A thing of beauty!!!

    --
    Hector, Engineering & Technical Support
    Santronics Software, Inc.
    http://www.santronics.com (sales)
    http://www.winserver.com (support)
    http://www.winserver.com/AupInfo (Online AUP Help)
    Office: 305-248-3204

    On 11/24/2018 3:09 PM, robert.wolfe@robertwolfe.org wrote:
    Technically, for the web interface, I believe you ARE using a WCX for
    the web clients (files, messages, who is online, etc). But, I may be wrong.

    *From:* listadmin-winserver@winserver.com
    <listadmin-winserver@winserver.com> *On Behalf Of *Terry Roati
    *Sent:* Saturday, November 24, 2018 2:14 AM
    *To:* WINServer@winserver.com
    *Subject:* [WINServer] HTML Who is Online

    Hello Hector,

    I am not using any WCX.

    When I log in as Sysop it is ok.

    When I log in as a Regular user, it doesn’t show a user.

    Just to let you know that when I tried to compile html-who.wcc it has
    errors.



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    I am using http (built in web interfaces of WINS) and have checked the access levels for WCX and Clients which are all ok. It is only Who’s Online with a issue, Files, Messages, Chat and Properties etc are ok.

    I checked and I am not using any WCX for Who’s Online HTML.

    From: listadmin-winserver@winserver.com <listadmin-winserver@winserver.com> On Behalf Of robert.wolfe@robertwolfe.org
    Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2018 6:09 AM
    To: WINServer@winserver.com
    Subject: RE: [WINServer] HTML Who is Online

    Technically, for the web interface, I believe you ARE using a WCX for the web clients (files, messages, who is online, etc). But, I may be wrong.

    From: listadmin-winserver@winserver.com<mailto:listadmin-winserver@winserver.com> <listadmin-winserver@winserver.com<mailto:listadmin-winserver@winserver.com>> On Behalf Of Terry Roati
    Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 2:14 AM
    To: WINServer@winserver.com<mailto:WINServer@winserver.com>
    Subject: [WINServer] HTML Who is Online


    Hello Hector,



    I am not using any WCX.



    When I log in as Sysop it is ok.



    [cid:image001.png@01D484AA.9F8F9180]



    When I log in as a Regular user, it doesn’t show a user.



    [cid:image002.png@01D484AA.9F8F9180]



    Just to let you know that when I tried to compile html-who.wcc it has errors.



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    Actually, I believe the web interface calls html-who.wcx which I believe in built into the WILDCAT.WCL archive. Hector, please correct me if I am wrong and set the record straight.



    From: listadmin-winserver@winserver.com <listadmin-winserver@winserver.com> On Behalf Of Terry Roati
    Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 6:42 PM
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    I am using http (built in web interfaces of WINS) and have checked the access levels for WCX and Clients which are all ok. It is only Who’s Online with a issue, Files, Messages, Chat and Properties etc are ok.



    I checked and I am not using any WCX for Who’s Online HTML.



    From: listadmin-winserver@winserver.com <mailto:listadmin-winserver@winserver.com> <listadmin-winserver@winserver.com <mailto:listadmin-winserver@winserver.com> > On Behalf Of robert.wolfe@robertwolfe.org <mailto:robert.wolfe@robertwolfe.org>
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    Technically, for the web interface, I believe you ARE using a WCX for the web clients (files, messages, who is online, etc). But, I may be wrong.



    From: listadmin-winserver@winserver.com <mailto:listadmin-winserver@winserver.com> <listadmin-winserver@winserver.com <mailto:listadmin-winserver@winserver.com> > On Behalf Of Terry Roati
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    Hello Hector,



    I am not using any WCX.



    When I log in as Sysop it is ok.







    When I log in as a Regular user, it doesn’t show a user.







    Just to let you know that when I tried to compile html-who.wcc it has errors.


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    Yes, HTML-WHO.WCX is built in. So if you have a standalone
    HTML-WHO.WCX, you might want to delete it unless you have something customized.

    Ok, checking this out, it appears to be an issue related to Virtual
    Domain Groups (VDG) and the access profiles. I was able to repeat the
    problem and to make a long story short, you have to make sure the
    domain the user used in the URL is in the VDG listing and not rely on
    the default host name which may not be the same.

    For example, on my home machine, I have "home.winserver.com" domain,
    but in my VDG setup I havethe computer name "HDEV21" setup as the
    default domain. I don't have "Home.winserver.com" in the table/.

    What that means is this, when the user uses the domain
    home.winserver.com in the URL for the browser, WcWEB will lookup home.winserver.com in your VDG table to get the access data. If the
    domain is not listed, it will use the one marked as the default. For
    me, that was HDEV21 and the access profiles was set to allow "New
    User" so it should of worked. But the template was skipping the node
    display because it was using the new "WHO.VDG" template variables that regulates how the virtual domains are displayed in Who's Online.

    In the WHOS_ONLINE.HTM, template, it has these options:

    <!--[ Set VDG Related Template Options ]-->

    @set Who.VDG = 1@ @//@ set 1 to enable vdg support
    @set Who.VDG.Column = 0@ @//@ set 1 to show column
    @set Who.VDG.Filter = 1@ @//@ set 0 - show all, 1 - current, 2
    - user, 3 - accessible

    This is complex and I have to remember my design details, but the idea
    was to give you control over what the user the can see. Overall, for
    the "normal" user, you don't want home to see who's online for other
    domains. So the ideas were:

    0 Show all user nodes, master sysop, administrator, etc.
    1 Show nodes only with the same current domain of the user
    2 Show only the user node (private idea)
    3 Show the domains the user has access too.

    Again, I'm on complexity design recall, but doing some debugging, with
    the Who.VDG.Filter=1, the user's current domain was blank so it didn't
    show the nodes. I have to see why it was blank but it appears it is
    because, I didn't have a "home.winserver.com" VDG domain.

    To prove that this was the problem, I removed the home.winserver.com
    from VDG and then use the url http://hdev21 and it worked.

    So its related to the VDG and somehow the default is not set in the
    connection node records.

    Your solution for now is:

    1) Make sure the URL domain is also in the VDG table, make sure the
    access profiles are set.

    and/or you can play with the template:

    2) Put a copy of WHOS_ONLINE.HTM into the http\template\custom folder,
    and edit it. Play with the WHO.VDG option, set it to 0.

    @SET WHO.VDG = 0@

    and see what happens. It will be interesting if you have many virtual
    domains to see how it will display.

    Keep in mind that this appears to be minor bug with the default domain
    not being set in the TConnectionInfo record for the node. Penciled in
    for review, but you have a solution by setting the URL domain in the VDG.





    On 11/24/2018 8:06 PM, robert.wolfe@robertwolfe.org wrote:
    Actually, I believe the web interface calls html-who.wcx which I
    believe in built into the WILDCAT.WCL archive. Hector, please
    correct me if I am wrong and set the record straight.

    *From:* listadmin-winserver@winserver.com
    <listadmin-winserver@winserver.com> *On Behalf Of *Terry Roati
    *Sent:* Saturday, November 24, 2018 6:42 PM
    *To:* WINServer@winserver.com
    *Subject:* RE: [WINServer] HTML Who is Online

    I am using http (built in web interfaces of WINS) and have checked the
    access levels for WCX and Clients which are all ok. It is only Who’s Online with a issue, Files, Messages, Chat and
    Properties
    etc are ok.

    I checked and I am not using any WCX for Who’s Online HTML.

    *From:* listadmin-winserver@winserver.com <mailto:listadmin-winserver@winserver.com>
    <listadmin-winserver@winserver.com <mailto:listadmin-winserver@winserver.com>> *On Behalf Of *robert.wolfe@robertwolfe.org <mailto:robert.wolfe@robertwolfe.org>
    *Sent:* Sunday, November 25, 2018 6:09 AM
    *To:* WINServer@winserver.com <mailto:WINServer@winserver.com>
    *Subject:* RE: [WINServer] HTML Who is Online

    Technically, for the web interface, I believe you ARE using a WCX for
    the web clients (files, messages, who is online, etc). But, I may be
    wrong.

    *From:* listadmin-winserver@winserver.com <mailto:listadmin-winserver@winserver.com>
    <listadmin-winserver@winserver.com <mailto:listadmin-winserver@winserver.com>> *On Behalf Of *Terry Roati *Sent:* Saturday, November 24, 2018 2:14 AM
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    *Subject:* [WINServer] HTML Who is Online

    Hello Hector,

    I am not using any WCX.

    When I log in as Sysop it is ok.

    When I log in as a Regular user, it
    doesn’t show a user.

    Just to let you know that when I tried to compile html-who.wcc it has
    errors.



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    Hello Hector,

    Spot on the money as usual, as you suggested I turned VDG off using @SET WHO.VDG = 0@ and it solved my issue.

    I only have the one domain so can't help you testing with more domains.

    I understand your logic to be able to control what each domain can see which makes sense for a business.

    I was surprised no one else picked this up. It was only because I am in the process of rebuilding my BBS and testing the setup I came across it.

    Thanks to all.

    Terry Roati

    -----Original Message-----
    From: listadmin-winserver@winserver.com <listadmin-winserver@winserver.com> On Behalf Of Hector Santos
    Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2018 1:23 PM
    To: WINServer@winserver.com
    Subject: Re: [WINServer] HTML Who is Online

    Yes, HTML-WHO.WCX is built in. So if you have a standalone HTML-WHO.WCX, you might want to delete it unless you have something customized.

    Ok, checking this out, it appears to be an issue related to Virtual Domain Groups (VDG) and the access profiles. I was able to repeat the problem and to make a long story short, you have to make sure the domain the user used in the URL is in the VDG listing and not rely on the default host name which may not be the same.

    For example, on my home machine, I have "home.winserver.com" domain, but in my
    VDG setup I havethe computer name "HDEV21" setup as the default domain. I don't have "Home.winserver.com" in the table/.

    What that means is this, when the user uses the domain home.winserver.com in the URL for the browser, WcWEB will lookup home.winserver.com in your VDG table
    to get the access data. If the domain is not listed, it will use the one marked as the default. For me, that was HDEV21 and the access profiles was set to allow "New User" so it should of worked. But the template was skipping the node display because it was using the new "WHO.VDG" template variables that regulates how the virtual domains are displayed in Who's Online.

    In the WHOS_ONLINE.HTM, template, it has these options:

    <!--[ Set VDG Related Template Options ]-->

    @set Who.VDG = 1@ @//@ set 1 to enable vdg support
    @set Who.VDG.Column = 0@ @//@ set 1 to show column
    @set Who.VDG.Filter = 1@ @//@ set 0 - show all, 1 - current, 2
    - user, 3 - accessible

    This is complex and I have to remember my design details, but the idea was to give you control over what the user the can see. Overall, for the "normal" user, you don't want home to see who's online for other
    domains. So the ideas were:

    0 Show all user nodes, master sysop, administrator, etc.
    1 Show nodes only with the same current domain of the user
    2 Show only the user node (private idea)
    3 Show the domains the user has access too.

    Again, I'm on complexity design recall, but doing some debugging, with the Who.VDG.Filter=1, the user's current domain was blank so it didn't show the nodes. I have to see why it was blank but it appears it is because, I didn't have a "home.winserver.com" VDG domain.

    To prove that this was the problem, I removed the home.winserver.com from VDG and then use the url http://hdev21 and it worked.

    So its related to the VDG and somehow the default is not set in the connection node records.

    Your solution for now is:

    1) Make sure the URL domain is also in the VDG table, make sure the access profiles are set.

    and/or you can play with the template:

    2) Put a copy of WHOS_ONLINE.HTM into the http\template\custom folder, and edit
    it. Play with the WHO.VDG option, set it to 0.

    @SET WHO.VDG = 0@

    and see what happens. It will be interesting if you have many virtual domains to see how it will display.

    Keep in mind that this appears to be minor bug with the default domain not being set in the TConnectionInfo record for the node. Penciled in for review, but you have a solution by setting the URL domain in the VDG.





    On 11/24/2018 8:06 PM, robert.wolfe@robertwolfe.org wrote:
    Actually, I believe the web interface calls html-who.wcx which I
    believe in built into the WILDCAT.WCL archive. Hector, please
    correct me if I am wrong and set the record straight.

    *From:* listadmin-winserver@winserver.com <listadmin-winserver@winserver.com> *On Behalf Of *Terry Roati
    *Sent:* Saturday, November 24, 2018 6:42 PM
    *To:* WINServer@winserver.com
    *Subject:* RE: [WINServer] HTML Who is Online

    I am using http (built in web interfaces of WINS) and have checked the access levels for WCX and Clients which are all ok. It is only Who’s Online with a issue, Files, Messages, Chat and
    Properties
    etc are ok.

    I checked and I am not using any WCX for Who’s Online HTML.

    *From:* listadmin-winserver@winserver.com <mailto:listadmin-winserver@winserver.com> <listadmin-winserver@winserver.com <mailto:listadmin-winserver@winserver.com>> *On Behalf Of *robert.wolfe@robertwolfe.org <mailto:robert.wolfe@robertwolfe.org>
    *Sent:* Sunday, November 25, 2018 6:09 AM
    *To:* WINServer@winserver.com <mailto:WINServer@winserver.com>
    *Subject:* RE: [WINServer] HTML Who is Online

    Technically, for the web interface, I believe you ARE using a WCX for
    the web clients (files, messages, who is online, etc). But, I may be wrong.

    *From:* listadmin-winserver@winserver.com <mailto:listadmin-winserver@winserver.com> <listadmin-winserver@winserver.com <mailto:listadmin-winserver@winserver.com>> *On Behalf Of *Terry Roati *Sent:* Saturday, November 24, 2018 2:14 AM
    *To:* WINServer@winserver.com <mailto:WINServer@winserver.com>
    *Subject:* [WINServer] HTML Who is Online

    Hello Hector,

    I am not using any WCX.

    When I log in as Sysop it is ok.

    When I log in as a Regular user, it
    doesn’t show a user.

    Just to let you know that when I tried to compile html-who.wcc it has errors.



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    Santronics Software, Inc. https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.santronics .com&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C9aa70934195d457f7b7308d65285662a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb 435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636787130228832844&amp;sdata=KMjiCVFZzFkl1Ep7XLr4L0Ke UkeGXYILekMsdV1vsfk%3D&amp;reserved=0 (sales) https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.winserver. com&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C9aa70934195d457f7b7308d65285662a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb4 35aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636787130228832844&amp;sdata=HLHVU1qEJ3iWRwaTFpIGaUQvB cVWB32KcQW8B4TrmmQ%3D&amp;reserved=0 (support) https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.winserver. com%2FAupInfo&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C9aa70934195d457f7b7308d65285662a%7C84df9e7f e9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636787130228832844&amp;sdata=tfkkKxEkVJ89Pzi 1zrY38T3HdapaN4bInUY8Jzbe1Jo%3D&amp;reserved=0 (Online AUP Help)
    Office: 305-248-3204



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    Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2018 15:50:13 -0500
    From: Hector Santos <winserver.support@winserver.com>
    Organization: Santronics Software, Inc
    User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.8.1
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    To: WINServer@winserver.com
    Subject: Re: [WINServer] HTML Who is Online
    References: <FR1P152MB029445AAFA1922A0DFCE14FBD5D50@FR1P152MB0294.LAMP152.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
    <025101d48431$993a0f50$cbae2df0$@robertwolfe.org> <FR1P152MB0294BFC15A452F895662BA50D5D60@FR1P152MB0294.LAMP152.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
    <11c301d4845b$28ad3f80$7a07be80$@robertwolfe.org> <5BFA1578.80507@winserver.com> <FR1P152MB0294BBFA1D95DDBD2A9268B5D5D60@FR1P152MB0294.LAMP152.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM> In-Reply-To: <FR1P152MB0294BBFA1D95DDBD2A9268B5D5D60@FR1P152MB0294.LAMP152.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------090101090109010609030307"

    Ok, just keep in mind that the template for whos_online will be
    updated, so you that don't need to edit it. In fact, I just
    remembered this:

    If you create the optional custom template file:

    http\template\who-options.wct

    This allows you to override the who_onlines.htm template options. who_onlines.htm checks for this optional file with this command:

    <!--[ Optional Override of options ]-->
    @ExistInclude "wc:\http\template\who-options.wct"@

    So create this file and add the set who.vdg macro;

    @set Who.VDG=0@

    This allows you to continue using the stock whos_online.htm template.

    I recommend ou should delete it now from the custom folder and create
    the who-options.wct instead. Then you will be upgrade ready.

    Thanks




    On 11/24/2018 11:42 PM, Terry Roati wrote:
    Hello Hector,

    Spot on the money as usual, as you suggested I turned VDG off using @SET
    WHO.VDG = 0@ and it solved my issue.

    I only have the one domain so can't help you testing with more domains.

    I understand your logic to be able to control what each domain can see which
    makes sense for a business.

    I was surprised no one else picked this up. It was only because I am in the
    process of rebuilding my BBS and testing the setup I came across it.

    Thanks to all.

    Terry Roati

    -----Original Message-----
    From: listadmin-winserver@winserver.com <listadmin-winserver@winserver.com>
    On Behalf Of Hector Santos
    Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2018 1:23 PM
    To: WINServer@winserver.com
    Subject: Re: [WINServer] HTML Who is Online

    Yes, HTML-WHO.WCX is built in. So if you have a standalone HTML-WHO.WCX, you
    might want to delete it unless you have something customized.

    Ok, checking this out, it appears to be an issue related to Virtual Domain
    Groups (VDG) and the access profiles. I was able to repeat the problem and to make a long story short, you have to make sure the domain the user used in the URL is in the VDG listing and not rely on the default host name which may not be the same.

    For example, on my home machine, I have "home.winserver.com" domain, but in
    my VDG setup I havethe computer name "HDEV21" setup as the default domain. I don't have "Home.winserver.com" in the table/.

    What that means is this, when the user uses the domain home.winserver.com in
    the URL for the browser, WcWEB will lookup home.winserver.com in your VDG table
    to get the access data. If the domain is not listed, it will use the one marked as the default. For me, that was HDEV21 and the access profiles was set to allow "New User" so it should of worked. But the template was skipping the node display because it was using the new "WHO.VDG" template variables that regulates how the virtual domains are displayed in Who's Online.

    In the WHOS_ONLINE.HTM, template, it has these options:

    <!--[ Set VDG Related Template Options ]-->

    @set Who.VDG = 1@ @//@ set 1 to enable vdg support
    @set Who.VDG.Column = 0@ @//@ set 1 to show column
    @set Who.VDG.Filter = 1@ @//@ set 0 - show all, 1 - current, 2
    - user, 3 - accessible

    This is complex and I have to remember my design details, but the idea was to
    give you control over what the user the can see. Overall, for the "normal" user, you don't want home to see who's online for other
    domains. So the ideas were:

    0 Show all user nodes, master sysop, administrator, etc.
    1 Show nodes only with the same current domain of the user
    2 Show only the user node (private idea)
    3 Show the domains the user has access too.

    Again, I'm on complexity design recall, but doing some debugging, with the
    Who.VDG.Filter=1, the user's current domain was blank so it didn't show the nodes. I have to see why it was blank but it appears it is because, I didn't have a "home.winserver.com" VDG domain.

    To prove that this was the problem, I removed the home.winserver.com from VDG
    and then use the url http://hdev21 and it worked.

    So its related to the VDG and somehow the default is not set in the
    connection node records.

    Your solution for now is:

    1) Make sure the URL domain is also in the VDG table, make sure the access
    profiles are set.

    and/or you can play with the template:

    2) Put a copy of WHOS_ONLINE.HTM into the http\template\custom folder, and
    edit it. Play with the WHO.VDG option, set it to 0.

    @SET WHO.VDG = 0@

    and see what happens. It will be interesting if you have many virtual domains
    to see how it will display.

    Keep in mind that this appears to be minor bug with the default domain not
    being set in the TConnectionInfo record for the node. Penciled in for review, but you have a solution by setting the URL domain in the VDG.





    On 11/24/2018 8:06 PM, robert.wolfe@robertwolfe.org wrote:
    Actually, I believe the web interface calls html-who.wcx which I
    believe in built into the WILDCAT.WCL archive. Hector, please
    correct me if I am wrong and set the record straight.

    *From:* listadmin-winserver@winserver.com
    <listadmin-winserver@winserver.com> *On Behalf Of *Terry Roati
    *Sent:* Saturday, November 24, 2018 6:42 PM
    *To:* WINServer@winserver.com
    *Subject:* RE: [WINServer] HTML Who is Online

    I am using http (built in web interfaces of WINS) and have checked the
    access levels for WCX and Clients which are all ok. It is only
    Who’s Online with a issue, Files, Messages, Chat and Properties
    etc are ok.

    I checked and I am not using any WCX for Who’s Online HTML.

    *From:* listadmin-winserver@winserver.com
    <mailto:listadmin-winserver@winserver.com>
    <listadmin-winserver@winserver.com
    <mailto:listadmin-winserver@winserver.com>> *On Behalf Of
    *robert.wolfe@robertwolfe.org <mailto:robert.wolfe@robertwolfe.org>
    *Sent:* Sunday, November 25, 2018 6:09 AM
    *To:* WINServer@winserver.com <mailto:WINServer@winserver.com>
    *Subject:* RE: [WINServer] HTML Who is Online

    Technically, for the web interface, I believe you ARE using a WCX for
    the web clients (files, messages, who is online, etc). But, I may be
    wrong.

    *From:* listadmin-winserver@winserver.com
    <mailto:listadmin-winserver@winserver.com>
    <listadmin-winserver@winserver.com
    <mailto:listadmin-winserver@winserver.com>> *On Behalf Of *Terry Roati
    *Sent:* Saturday, November 24, 2018 2:14 AM
    *To:* WINServer@winserver.com <mailto:WINServer@winserver.com>
    *Subject:* [WINServer] HTML Who is Online

    Hello Hector,

    I am not using any WCX.

    When I log in as Sysop it is ok.

    When I log in as a Regular user, it doesnâ€â„à ƒâ€šÃ‚¢t show a user.

    Just to let you know that when I tried to compile html-who.wcc it has
    errors.



    --
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    Santronics Software, Inc.

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    https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.winserver. com%2FAupInfo&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7C9aa70934195d457f7b7308d65285662a%7C84df9e7f e9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636787130228832844&amp;sdata=tfkkKxEkVJ89Pzi 1zrY38T3HdapaN4bInUY8Jzbe1Jo%3D&amp;reserved=0 (Online AUP Help)
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  • From winserver.support@winserver.com@1:124/5013 to All on Sun Nov 25 15:08:28 2018
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    From: Hector Santos <winserver.support@winserver.com>
    Organization: Santronics Software, Inc
    User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.8.1
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    To: WINServer@winserver.com
    Subject: Re: [WINServer] HTML Who is Online
    References: <FR1P152MB029445AAFA1922A0DFCE14FBD5D50@FR1P152MB0294.LAMP152.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
    <025101d48431$993a0f50$cbae2df0$@robertwolfe.org> <FR1P152MB0294BFC15A452F895662BA50D5D60@FR1P152MB0294.LAMP152.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
    <11c301d4845b$28ad3f80$7a07be80$@robertwolfe.org> <5BFA1578.80507@winserver.com> <FR1P152MB0294BBFA1D95DDBD2A9268B5D5D60@FR1P152MB0294.LAMP152.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>
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    Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------030805050402060806080103"

    Terri, Create the file in the CUSTOM folder:

    http\template\CUSTOM\who-options.wct

    not in the stock folder:

    http\template\who-options.wct



    On 11/25/2018 3:50 PM, Hector Santos wrote:
    Ok, just keep in mind that the template for whos_online will be
    updated, so you that don't need to edit it. In fact, I just
    remembered this:

    If you create the optional custom template file:

    http\template\who-options.wct

    This allows you to override the who_onlines.htm template options. who_onlines.htm checks for this optional file with this command:

    <!--[ Optional Override of options ]-->
    @ExistInclude "wc:\http\template\who-options.wct"@

    So create this file and add the set who.vdg macro;

    @set Who.VDG=0@

    This allows you to continue using the stock whos_online.htm template.

    I recommend ou should delete it now from the custom folder and create
    the who-options.wct instead. Then you will be upgrade ready.

    Thanks




    On 11/24/2018 11:42 PM, Terry Roati wrote:
    Hello Hector,

    Spot on the money as usual, as you suggested I turned VDG off using
    @SET WHO.VDG = 0@ and it solved my issue.

    I only have the one domain so can't help you testing with more domains.

    I understand your logic to be able to control what each domain can
    see which makes sense for a business.

    I was surprised no one else picked this up. It was only because I am
    in the process of rebuilding my BBS and testing the setup I came
    across it.

    Thanks to all.

    Terry Roati

    -----Original Message-----
    From: listadmin-winserver@winserver.com
    <listadmin-winserver@winserver.com> On Behalf Of Hector Santos
    Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2018 1:23 PM
    To: WINServer@winserver.com
    Subject: Re: [WINServer] HTML Who is Online

    Yes, HTML-WHO.WCX is built in. So if you have a standalone
    HTML-WHO.WCX, you might want to delete it unless you have something
    customized.

    Ok, checking this out, it appears to be an issue related to Virtual
    Domain Groups (VDG) and the access profiles. I was able to repeat
    the problem and to make a long story short, you have to make sure
    the domain the user used in the URL is in the VDG listing and not
    rely on the default host name which may not be the same.

    For example, on my home machine, I have "home.winserver.com"
    domain, but in my VDG setup I havethe computer name "HDEV21" setup
    as the default domain. I don't have "Home.winserver.com" in the
    table/.

    What that means is this, when the user uses the domain
    home.winserver.com in the URL for the browser, WcWEB will lookup
    home.winserver.com in your VDG table to get the access data. If the
    domain is not listed, it will use the one marked as the default. For
    me, that was HDEV21 and the access profiles was set to allow "New
    User" so it should of worked. But the template was skipping the
    node display because it was using the new "WHO.VDG" template
    variables that regulates how the virtual domains are displayed in
    Who's Online.

    In the WHOS_ONLINE.HTM, template, it has these options:

    <!--[ Set VDG Related Template Options ]-->

    @set Who.VDG = 1@ @//@ set 1 to enable vdg support
    @set Who.VDG.Column = 0@ @//@ set 1 to show column
    @set Who.VDG.Filter = 1@ @//@ set 0 - show all, 1 - current, 2
    - user, 3 - accessible

    This is complex and I have to remember my design details, but the
    idea was to give you control over what the user the can see.
    Overall, for the "normal" user, you don't want home to see who's
    online for other
    domains. So the ideas were:

    0 Show all user nodes, master sysop, administrator, etc.
    1 Show nodes only with the same current domain of the user
    2 Show only the user node (private idea)
    3 Show the domains the user has access too.

    Again, I'm on complexity design recall, but doing some debugging,
    with the Who.VDG.Filter=1, the user's current domain was blank so it
    didn't show the nodes. I have to see why it was blank but it
    appears it is because, I didn't have a "home.winserver.com" VDG domain.

    To prove that this was the problem, I removed the home.winserver.com
    from VDG and then use the url http://hdev21 and it worked.

    So its related to the VDG and somehow the default is not set in the
    connection node records.

    Your solution for now is:

    1) Make sure the URL domain is also in the VDG table, make sure the
    access profiles are set.

    and/or you can play with the template:

    2) Put a copy of WHOS_ONLINE.HTM into the http\template\custom
    folder, and edit it. Play with the WHO.VDG option, set it to 0.

    @SET WHO.VDG = 0@

    and see what happens. It will be interesting if you have many
    virtual domains to see how it will display.

    Keep in mind that this appears to be minor bug with the default
    domain not being set in the TConnectionInfo record for the node.
    Penciled in for review, but you have a solution by setting the URL
    domain in the VDG.





    On 11/24/2018 8:06 PM, robert.wolfe@robertwolfe.org wrote:
    Actually, I believe the web interface calls html-who.wcx which I
    believe in built into the WILDCAT.WCL archive. Hector, please >>> correct me if I am wrong and set the record straight.

    *From:* listadmin-winserver@winserver.com
    <listadmin-winserver@winserver.com> *On Behalf Of *Terry Roati
    *Sent:* Saturday, November 24, 2018 6:42 PM
    *To:* WINServer@winserver.com
    *Subject:* RE: [WINServer] HTML Who is Online

    I am using http (built in web interfaces of WINS) and have checked the
    access levels for WCX and Clients which are all ok. It is only
    Whoâ€â„Ã⠀šÃ‚¢s Online with a issue,
    Files, Messages, Chat and Properties
    etc are ok.

    I checked and I am not using any WCX for
    Whoâ€â„Ã⠀šÃ‚¢s Online HTML.

    *From:* listadmin-winserver@winserver.com
    <mailto:listadmin-winserver@winserver.com>
    <listadmin-winserver@winserver.com
    <mailto:listadmin-winserver@winserver.com>> *On Behalf Of
    *robert.wolfe@robertwolfe.org <mailto:robert.wolfe@robertwolfe.org>
    *Sent:* Sunday, November 25, 2018 6:09 AM
    *To:* WINServer@winserver.com <mailto:WINServer@winserver.com>
    *Subject:* RE: [WINServer] HTML Who is Online

    Technically, for the web interface, I believe you ARE using a WCX for
    the web clients (files, messages, who is online, etc). But, I may be
    wrong.

    *From:* listadmin-winserver@winserver.com
    <mailto:listadmin-winserver@winserver.com>
    <listadmin-winserver@winserver.com
    <mailto:listadmin-winserver@winserver.com>> *On Behalf Of *Terry Roati
    *Sent:* Saturday, November 24, 2018 2:14 AM
    *To:* WINServer@winserver.com <mailto:WINServer@winserver.com>
    *Subject:* [WINServer] HTML Who is Online

    Hello Hector,

    I am not using any WCX.

    When I log in as Sysop it is ok.

    When I log in as a Regular user, it
    doesnââââ⠀šÂ¬Ã…¡Ã‚¬Ã¢â€ žÂ¢t
    show a user.

    Just to let you know that when I tried to compile html-who.wcc it has
    errors.



    --
    Hector, Engineering & Technical Support
    Santronics Software, Inc.
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    Technically, for the web interface, I believe you ARE using a WCX for the web clients (files, messages, who is online, etc). But, I may be wrong.



    From: listadmin-winserver@winserver.com <listadmin-winserver@winserver.com> On Behalf Of Terry Roati
    Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 2:14 AM
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    Hello Hector,



    I am not using any WCX.



    When I log in as Sysop it is ok.







    When I log in as a Regular user, it doesn€€€€€€€€t show a user.







    Just to let you know that when I tried to compile html-who.wcc it has errors.


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    From: Hector Santos <winserver.support@winserver.com>
    Organization: Santronics Software, Inc
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    Yes, there are 6/7 basic/stock WCN (Wildcat! Navigator Clients) for
    wcNAV and wcWeb:

    FILE.WCN File client
    MESSAGE.WCN Mail client
    WHO.WCN "Who's onLine" client
    CHAT.WCN Chat Client
    PERSONAL.WCN "Your Settings", well thats the idea, client
    TERM.WCN Terminal Client (Console)
    SYSOP.WCN Sysop Menu (WEB ONLY)

    So if you connected via WcNavigator, and it launch the browser and you
    one of the links, or via wcWEB login you checked the WcNavigator
    checkbox, then the special .WCN extension tells wcWEB what to do next:

    WCNAV: Run the client-side XXXXXX.EXE wcNAV client using registered
    browser association.

    WCWEB: Run the server-side HTML-xxxxxx.WCX client for WEB interfaces.

    A thing of beauty!!!

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    On 11/24/2018 3:09 PM, robert.wolfe@robertwolfe.org wrote:
    Technically, for the web interface, I believe you ARE using a WCX for
    the web clients (files, messages, who is online, etc).€€ But, I may be wrong.

    *From:* listadmin-winserver@winserver.com
    <listadmin-winserver@winserver.com> *On Behalf Of *Terry Roati
    *Sent:* Saturday, November 24, 2018 2:14 AM
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    *Subject:* [WINServer] HTML Who is Online

    Hello Hector,

    I am not using any WCX.

    When I log in as Sysop it is ok.

    When I log in as a Regular user, it doesn€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€t show a user.

    Just to let you know that when I tried to compile html-who.wcc it has
    errors.



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    I checked and I am not using any WCX for Who€€€s Online HTML.

    From: listadmin-winserver@winserver.com <listadmin-winserver@winserver.com> On Behalf Of robert.wolfe@robertwolfe.org
    Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2018 6:09 AM
    To: WINServer@winserver.com
    Subject: RE: [WINServer] HTML Who is Online

    Technically, for the web interface, I believe you ARE using a WCX for the web clients (files, messages, who is online, etc). But, I may be wrong.

    From: listadmin-winserver@winserver.com<mailto:listadmin-winserver@winserver.com> <listadmin-winserver@winserver.com<mailto:listadmin-winserver@winserver.com>> On Behalf Of Terry Roati
    Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 2:14 AM
    To: WINServer@winserver.com<mailto:WINServer@winserver.com>
    Subject: [WINServer] HTML Who is Online


    Hello Hector,



    I am not using any WCX.



    When I log in as Sysop it is ok.



    [cid:image001.png@01D484AA.9F8F9180]



    When I log in as a Regular user, it doesn€€€€€€€€t show a user.



    [cid:image002.png@01D484AA.9F8F9180]



    Just to let you know that when I tried to compile html-who.wcc it has errors.



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