Technically, for the web interface, I believe you ARE using a WCX for
the web clients (files, messages, who is online, etc). But, I may be wrong.
*From:* listadmin-winserver@winserver.com
<listadmin-winserver@winserver.com> *On Behalf Of *Terry Roati
*Sent:* Saturday, November 24, 2018 2:14 AM
*To:* WINServer@winserver.com
*Subject:* [WINServer] HTML Who is Online
Hello Hector,
I am not using any WCX.
When I log in as Sysop it is ok.
When I log in as a Regular user, it doesn’t show a user.
Just to let you know that when I tried to compile html-who.wcc it has
errors.
Actually, I believe the web interface calls html-who.wcx which IProperties
believe in built into the WILDCAT.WCL archive. Hector, please
correct me if I am wrong and set the record straight.
*From:* listadmin-winserver@winserver.com
<listadmin-winserver@winserver.com> *On Behalf Of *Terry Roati
*Sent:* Saturday, November 24, 2018 6:42 PM
*To:* WINServer@winserver.com
*Subject:* RE: [WINServer] HTML Who is Online
I am using http (built in web interfaces of WINS) and have checked the
access levels for WCX and Clients which are all ok. It is only Who’s Online with a issue, Files, Messages, Chat and
etc are ok.doesn’t show a user.
I checked and I am not using any WCX for Who’s Online HTML.
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<listadmin-winserver@winserver.com <mailto:listadmin-winserver@winserver.com>> *On Behalf Of *robert.wolfe@robertwolfe.org <mailto:robert.wolfe@robertwolfe.org>
*Sent:* Sunday, November 25, 2018 6:09 AM
*To:* WINServer@winserver.com <mailto:WINServer@winserver.com>
*Subject:* RE: [WINServer] HTML Who is Online
Technically, for the web interface, I believe you ARE using a WCX for
the web clients (files, messages, who is online, etc). But, I may be
wrong.
*From:* listadmin-winserver@winserver.com <mailto:listadmin-winserver@winserver.com>
<listadmin-winserver@winserver.com <mailto:listadmin-winserver@winserver.com>> *On Behalf Of *Terry Roati *Sent:* Saturday, November 24, 2018 2:14 AM
*To:* WINServer@winserver.com <mailto:WINServer@winserver.com>
*Subject:* [WINServer] HTML Who is Online
Hello Hector,
I am not using any WCX.
When I log in as Sysop it is ok.
When I log in as a Regular user, it
Just to let you know that when I tried to compile html-who.wcc it has
errors.
Actually, I believe the web interface calls html-who.wcx which IProperties
believe in built into the WILDCAT.WCL archive. Hector, please
correct me if I am wrong and set the record straight.
*From:* listadmin-winserver@winserver.com <listadmin-winserver@winserver.com> *On Behalf Of *Terry Roati
*Sent:* Saturday, November 24, 2018 6:42 PM
*To:* WINServer@winserver.com
*Subject:* RE: [WINServer] HTML Who is Online
I am using http (built in web interfaces of WINS) and have checked the access levels for WCX and Clients which are all ok. It is only Who’s Online with a issue, Files, Messages, Chat and
etc are ok.doesn’t show a user.
I checked and I am not using any WCX for Who’s Online HTML.
*From:* listadmin-winserver@winserver.com <mailto:listadmin-winserver@winserver.com> <listadmin-winserver@winserver.com <mailto:listadmin-winserver@winserver.com>> *On Behalf Of *robert.wolfe@robertwolfe.org <mailto:robert.wolfe@robertwolfe.org>
*Sent:* Sunday, November 25, 2018 6:09 AM
*To:* WINServer@winserver.com <mailto:WINServer@winserver.com>
*Subject:* RE: [WINServer] HTML Who is Online
Technically, for the web interface, I believe you ARE using a WCX for
the web clients (files, messages, who is online, etc). But, I may be wrong.
*From:* listadmin-winserver@winserver.com <mailto:listadmin-winserver@winserver.com> <listadmin-winserver@winserver.com <mailto:listadmin-winserver@winserver.com>> *On Behalf Of *Terry Roati *Sent:* Saturday, November 24, 2018 2:14 AM
*To:* WINServer@winserver.com <mailto:WINServer@winserver.com>
*Subject:* [WINServer] HTML Who is Online
Hello Hector,
I am not using any WCX.
When I log in as Sysop it is ok.
When I log in as a Regular user, it
Just to let you know that when I tried to compile html-who.wcc it has errors.
Hello Hector,WHO.VDG = 0@ and it solved my issue.
Spot on the money as usual, as you suggested I turned VDG off using @SET
I only have the one domain so can't help you testing with more domains.makes sense for a business.
I understand your logic to be able to control what each domain can see which
I was surprised no one else picked this up. It was only because I am in theprocess of rebuilding my BBS and testing the setup I came across it.
Thanks to all.On Behalf Of Hector Santos
Terry Roati
-----Original Message-----
From: listadmin-winserver@winserver.com <listadmin-winserver@winserver.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2018 1:23 PMmight want to delete it unless you have something customized.
To: WINServer@winserver.com
Subject: Re: [WINServer] HTML Who is Online
Yes, HTML-WHO.WCX is built in. So if you have a standalone HTML-WHO.WCX, you
Ok, checking this out, it appears to be an issue related to Virtual DomainGroups (VDG) and the access profiles. I was able to repeat the problem and to make a long story short, you have to make sure the domain the user used in the URL is in the VDG listing and not rely on the default host name which may not be the same.
For example, on my home machine, I have "home.winserver.com" domain, but inmy VDG setup I havethe computer name "HDEV21" setup as the default domain. I don't have "Home.winserver.com" in the table/.
What that means is this, when the user uses the domain home.winserver.com inthe URL for the browser, WcWEB will lookup home.winserver.com in your VDG table
In the WHOS_ONLINE.HTM, template, it has these options:give you control over what the user the can see. Overall, for the "normal" user, you don't want home to see who's online for other
<!--[ Set VDG Related Template Options ]-->
@set Who.VDG = 1@ @//@ set 1 to enable vdg support
@set Who.VDG.Column = 0@ @//@ set 1 to show column
@set Who.VDG.Filter = 1@ @//@ set 0 - show all, 1 - current, 2
- user, 3 - accessible
This is complex and I have to remember my design details, but the idea was to
domains. So the ideas were:Who.VDG.Filter=1, the user's current domain was blank so it didn't show the nodes. I have to see why it was blank but it appears it is because, I didn't have a "home.winserver.com" VDG domain.
0 Show all user nodes, master sysop, administrator, etc.
1 Show nodes only with the same current domain of the user
2 Show only the user node (private idea)
3 Show the domains the user has access too.
Again, I'm on complexity design recall, but doing some debugging, with the
To prove that this was the problem, I removed the home.winserver.com from VDGand then use the url http://hdev21 and it worked.
So its related to the VDG and somehow the default is not set in theconnection node records.
Your solution for now is:profiles are set.
1) Make sure the URL domain is also in the VDG table, make sure the access
and/or you can play with the template:edit it. Play with the WHO.VDG option, set it to 0.
2) Put a copy of WHOS_ONLINE.HTM into the http\template\custom folder, and
@SET WHO.VDG = 0@to see how it will display.
and see what happens. It will be interesting if you have many virtual domains
Keep in mind that this appears to be minor bug with the default domain notbeing set in the TConnectionInfo record for the node. Penciled in for review, but you have a solution by setting the URL domain in the VDG.
On 11/24/2018 8:06 PM, robert.wolfe@robertwolfe.org wrote:
Actually, I believe the web interface calls html-who.wcx which I
believe in built into the WILDCAT.WCL archive. Hector, please
correct me if I am wrong and set the record straight.
*From:* listadmin-winserver@winserver.com
<listadmin-winserver@winserver.com> *On Behalf Of *Terry Roati
*Sent:* Saturday, November 24, 2018 6:42 PM
*To:* WINServer@winserver.com
*Subject:* RE: [WINServer] HTML Who is Online
I am using http (built in web interfaces of WINS) and have checked the
access levels for WCX and Clients which are all ok. It is only
Who’s Online with a issue, Files, Messages, Chat and Properties
etc are ok.
I checked and I am not using any WCX for Who’s Online HTML.
*From:* listadmin-winserver@winserver.com
<mailto:listadmin-winserver@winserver.com>
<listadmin-winserver@winserver.com
<mailto:listadmin-winserver@winserver.com>> *On Behalf Of
*robert.wolfe@robertwolfe.org <mailto:robert.wolfe@robertwolfe.org>
*Sent:* Sunday, November 25, 2018 6:09 AM
*To:* WINServer@winserver.com <mailto:WINServer@winserver.com>
*Subject:* RE: [WINServer] HTML Who is Online
Technically, for the web interface, I believe you ARE using a WCX for
the web clients (files, messages, who is online, etc). But, I may be
wrong.
*From:* listadmin-winserver@winserver.com
<mailto:listadmin-winserver@winserver.com>
<listadmin-winserver@winserver.com
<mailto:listadmin-winserver@winserver.com>> *On Behalf Of *Terry Roati
*Sent:* Saturday, November 24, 2018 2:14 AM
*To:* WINServer@winserver.com <mailto:WINServer@winserver.com>
*Subject:* [WINServer] HTML Who is Online
Hello Hector,
I am not using any WCX.
When I log in as Sysop it is ok.
When I log in as a Regular user, it doesnâ€â„à ƒâ€šÃ‚¢t show a user.
Just to let you know that when I tried to compile html-who.wcc it has
errors.
--
Hector, Engineering & Technical Support
Santronics Software, Inc.
Office: 305-248-3204
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Ok, just keep in mind that the template for whos_online will be
updated, so you that don't need to edit it. In fact, I just
remembered this:
If you create the optional custom template file:
http\template\who-options.wct
This allows you to override the who_onlines.htm template options. who_onlines.htm checks for this optional file with this command:
<!--[ Optional Override of options ]-->
@ExistInclude "wc:\http\template\who-options.wct"@
So create this file and add the set who.vdg macro;
@set Who.VDG=0@
This allows you to continue using the stock whos_online.htm template.
I recommend ou should delete it now from the custom folder and create
the who-options.wct instead. Then you will be upgrade ready.
Thanks
On 11/24/2018 11:42 PM, Terry Roati wrote:
Hello Hector,
Spot on the money as usual, as you suggested I turned VDG off using
@SET WHO.VDG = 0@ and it solved my issue.
I only have the one domain so can't help you testing with more domains.
I understand your logic to be able to control what each domain can
see which makes sense for a business.
I was surprised no one else picked this up. It was only because I am
in the process of rebuilding my BBS and testing the setup I came
across it.
Thanks to all.
Terry Roati
-----Original Message-----
From: listadmin-winserver@winserver.com
<listadmin-winserver@winserver.com> On Behalf Of Hector Santos
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2018 1:23 PM
To: WINServer@winserver.com
Subject: Re: [WINServer] HTML Who is Online
Yes, HTML-WHO.WCX is built in. So if you have a standalone
HTML-WHO.WCX, you might want to delete it unless you have something
customized.
Ok, checking this out, it appears to be an issue related to Virtual
Domain Groups (VDG) and the access profiles. I was able to repeat
the problem and to make a long story short, you have to make sure
the domain the user used in the URL is in the VDG listing and not
rely on the default host name which may not be the same.
For example, on my home machine, I have "home.winserver.com"
domain, but in my VDG setup I havethe computer name "HDEV21" setup
as the default domain. I don't have "Home.winserver.com" in the
table/.
What that means is this, when the user uses the domain
home.winserver.com in the URL for the browser, WcWEB will lookup
home.winserver.com in your VDG table to get the access data. If the
domain is not listed, it will use the one marked as the default. For
me, that was HDEV21 and the access profiles was set to allow "New
User" so it should of worked. But the template was skipping the
node display because it was using the new "WHO.VDG" template
variables that regulates how the virtual domains are displayed in
Who's Online.
In the WHOS_ONLINE.HTM, template, it has these options:
<!--[ Set VDG Related Template Options ]-->
@set Who.VDG = 1@ @//@ set 1 to enable vdg support
@set Who.VDG.Column = 0@ @//@ set 1 to show column
@set Who.VDG.Filter = 1@ @//@ set 0 - show all, 1 - current, 2
- user, 3 - accessible
This is complex and I have to remember my design details, but the
idea was to give you control over what the user the can see.
Overall, for the "normal" user, you don't want home to see who's
online for other
domains. So the ideas were:
0 Show all user nodes, master sysop, administrator, etc.
1 Show nodes only with the same current domain of the user
2 Show only the user node (private idea)
3 Show the domains the user has access too.
Again, I'm on complexity design recall, but doing some debugging,
with the Who.VDG.Filter=1, the user's current domain was blank so it
didn't show the nodes. I have to see why it was blank but it
appears it is because, I didn't have a "home.winserver.com" VDG domain.
To prove that this was the problem, I removed the home.winserver.com
from VDG and then use the url http://hdev21 and it worked.
So its related to the VDG and somehow the default is not set in the
connection node records.
Your solution for now is:
1) Make sure the URL domain is also in the VDG table, make sure the
access profiles are set.
and/or you can play with the template:
2) Put a copy of WHOS_ONLINE.HTM into the http\template\custom
folder, and edit it. Play with the WHO.VDG option, set it to 0.
@SET WHO.VDG = 0@
and see what happens. It will be interesting if you have many
virtual domains to see how it will display.
Keep in mind that this appears to be minor bug with the default
domain not being set in the TConnectionInfo record for the node.
Penciled in for review, but you have a solution by setting the URL
domain in the VDG.
On 11/24/2018 8:06 PM, robert.wolfe@robertwolfe.org wrote:
Actually, I believe the web interface calls html-who.wcx which I
believe in built into the WILDCAT.WCL archive. Hector, please >>> correct me if I am wrong and set the record straight.
*From:* listadmin-winserver@winserver.com
<listadmin-winserver@winserver.com> *On Behalf Of *Terry Roati
*Sent:* Saturday, November 24, 2018 6:42 PM
*To:* WINServer@winserver.com
*Subject:* RE: [WINServer] HTML Who is Online
I am using http (built in web interfaces of WINS) and have checked the
access levels for WCX and Clients which are all ok. It is only
Whoâ€â„Ã⠀šÃ‚¢s Online with a issue,
Files, Messages, Chat and Properties
etc are ok.
I checked and I am not using any WCX for
Whoâ€â„Ã⠀šÃ‚¢s Online HTML.
*From:* listadmin-winserver@winserver.com
<mailto:listadmin-winserver@winserver.com>
<listadmin-winserver@winserver.com
<mailto:listadmin-winserver@winserver.com>> *On Behalf Of
*robert.wolfe@robertwolfe.org <mailto:robert.wolfe@robertwolfe.org>
*Sent:* Sunday, November 25, 2018 6:09 AM
*To:* WINServer@winserver.com <mailto:WINServer@winserver.com>
*Subject:* RE: [WINServer] HTML Who is Online
Technically, for the web interface, I believe you ARE using a WCX for
the web clients (files, messages, who is online, etc). But, I may be
wrong.
*From:* listadmin-winserver@winserver.com
<mailto:listadmin-winserver@winserver.com>
<listadmin-winserver@winserver.com
<mailto:listadmin-winserver@winserver.com>> *On Behalf Of *Terry Roati
*Sent:* Saturday, November 24, 2018 2:14 AM
*To:* WINServer@winserver.com <mailto:WINServer@winserver.com>
*Subject:* [WINServer] HTML Who is Online
Hello Hector,
I am not using any WCX.
When I log in as Sysop it is ok.
When I log in as a Regular user, it
doesnââââ⠀šÂ¬Ã…¡Ã‚¬Ã¢â€ žÂ¢t
show a user.
Just to let you know that when I tried to compile html-who.wcc it has
errors.
--
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Santronics Software, Inc.
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Technically, for the web interface, I believe you ARE using a WCX for
the web clients (files, messages, who is online, etc).€€ But, I may be wrong.
*From:* listadmin-winserver@winserver.com
<listadmin-winserver@winserver.com> *On Behalf Of *Terry Roati
*Sent:* Saturday, November 24, 2018 2:14 AM
*To:* WINServer@winserver.com
*Subject:* [WINServer] HTML Who is Online
Hello Hector,
I am not using any WCX.
When I log in as Sysop it is ok.
When I log in as a Regular user, it doesn€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€t show a user.
Just to let you know that when I tried to compile html-who.wcc it has
errors.
Sysop: | Nelgin |
---|---|
Location: | Plano, TX |
Users: | 513 |
Nodes: | 10 (1 / 9) |
Uptime: | 00:29:00 |
Calls: | 8,291 |
Calls today: | 4 |
Files: | 15,520 |
Messages: | 928,887 |