On 02-06-23 01:01, Aaron Thomas <=-
spoke to All about Balloons Aint Common <=-
Trump confirmed my suspicion today by saying "That never happened
while I was in office."
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On 02-06-23 01:01, Aaron Thomas <=-
spoke to All about Balloons Aint Common <=-
Trump confirmed my suspicion today by saying "That never happened while I was in office."
Question: Is he telling a lie with that statement, or was he just not aware that it did happen while he was in office?
Trump confirmed my suspicion today by saying "That never happened while I was in office."
Question: Is he telling a lie with that statement, or was he just not aware that it did happen while he was in office?
Trump confirmed my suspicion today by saying "That never happened
while I was in office."
Question: Is he telling a lie with that statement, or was he just not
aware that it did happen while he was in office?
I've never caught President Trump in a lie before, especially not in a lie pertaining to national security.
Already in 2017 this wall was set up in NYC:
On 02-07-23 06:39, Gregory Deyss <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Balloons Aint Common <=-
Trump confirmed my suspicion today by saying "That never happened
while I was in office."
Question: Is he telling a lie with that statement, or was he just not aware that it did happen while he was in office?
As I mentioned previously.
The following video explains this perfectly.
Source: Fox Business
tinyurl.com/3m8rtvfz
That is all the proof that anyone should need.
On 02-07-23 13:27, Aaron Thomas <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Balloons Aint Common <=-
Trump confirmed my suspicion today by saying "That never happened
while I was in office."
Question: Is he telling a lie with that statement, or was he just not aware that it did happen while he was in office?
I've never caught President Trump in a lie before, especially not in a
lie pertaining to national security.
On 02-07-23 16:28, Mike Powell <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Balloons Aint Common <=-
Trump confirmed my suspicion today by saying "That never happened
while I was in office."
Question: Is he telling a lie with that statement, or was he just not
aware that it did happen while he was in office?
There has been some waffling about whether or not there were balloons during his time in office, including a claim that there were but,
unlike Biden, Trump was never told of the incursions.
So that is a valid question you have asked.
Mike Powell wrote to DALE SHIPP <=-
There has been some waffling about whether or not there were balloons during his time in office, including a claim that there were but,
unlike Biden, Trump was never told of the incursions.
And those lies are only the ones told in public. Does not include
e.g. lies told to IRS, investors and bankers about the value of his properties...
Already in 2017 this wall was set up in NYC:
Correction, this was in 2020.
2017 was when WaPo made it's list (it seems to be behind a pay wall).
Trump confirmed my suspicion today by saying "That never happened
while I was in office."
Question: Is he telling a lie with that statement, or was he just not
aware that it did happen while he was in office?
There has been some waffling about whether or not there were balloons
during his time in office, including a claim that there were but,
unlike Biden, Trump was never told of the incursions.
That is my belief.
So that is a valid question you have asked.
Of course it is valid -- but notice how some are in denial mode instead of simply acknowledging the truth.
Trump confirmed my suspicion today by saying "That never happened
while I was in office."
Question: Is he telling a lie with that statement, or was he just not
aware that it did happen while he was in office?
There has been some waffling about whether or not there were balloons during his time in office, including a claim that there were but, unlike Biden, Trump was never told of the incursions.
So that is a valid question you have asked.
If that was the case, then why hasn't that person been repremanded?
I'm sure that not telling the President about such an event was a clear dereliction of duty - if not worse.
This "Balloons were coming over during Trump" smells like a distraction.
There has been some waffling about whether or not there were balloons during his time in office, including a claim that there were but,
unlike Biden, Trump was never told of the incursions.
That is my belief.
So that is a valid question you have asked.
Of course it is valid -- but notice how some are in denial mode instead
of simply acknowledging the truth.
250/1The Biden folks were looking at data from during the Trump era and they have found a data that suggests that they alleged to have found a Chinese Spy Balloon that crashed around Hawaii. Would this be the so-called incursion that they are referencing that is [After the Fact] that is by the way still from a nameless schmuck who happens to be a Trump hater and furthermore does not have the nads or the courage to go on record as he prefers hide behind the five walls of the Pentagon..
On 02-07-23 06:39, Gregory Deyss <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Balloons Aint Common <=-
Trump confirmed my suspicion today by saying "That never happened while I was in office."
Question: Is he telling a lie with that statement, or was he just no aware that it did happen while he was in office?
As I mentioned previously.
The following video explains this perfectly.
Source: Fox Business
tinyurl.com/3m8rtvfz
That video (which I have now watched twice) does not say that it did not happen. It says that he (and other cabinet officials) say they never heard about them. OTOH, the Pentagon says that balloons did enter USA space during the Trump years. They are the experts.
That is all the proof that anyone should need.
That is proof of nothing WRT my question. Look again at my question above.
On 02-08-23 08:14, Ib Joe <=-
spoke to Bj”rn Felten about Re: Trump has never told <=-
And those lies are only the ones told in public. Does not include
e.g. lies told to IRS, investors and bankers about the value of his properties...
This is not true... Like everyone... Trump thought his properties were valued at one level while others think they are valued at an other level. Just look at ANY real estate transaction... Seller
thinks their property is awesome and they want top dollar
whereas the buyer doesn't think so and they find some price
that they agree upon...
On 02-08-23 22:04, Gregory Deyss <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Balloons Aint Common <=-
That video (which I have now watched twice) does not say that it did not happen. It says that he (and other cabinet officials) say they never heard about them. OTOH, the Pentagon says that balloons did enter USA space during the Trump years. They are the experts.
That is all the proof that anyone should need.
That is proof of nothing WRT my question. Look again at my question above.
1. There was no spy balloon from any country (within the Trump era)
that traveled in the U.S. as long or as far as this one did that was
from last week.
2. If they wanted to wait to shoot it down over water, then why was
this Chinese Spy Balloon not shot down off the coast of Alaska which is also over water.
Mike Powell wrote to Dr. What <=-
If you have read any of the Twitter files, it is pretty obvious that
some government agencies were certainly acting with more autonomy than
one might imagine,
and that there were also some that were actually
trying to prevent other agencies from being successful in their work.
On 02-08-23 08:14, Ib Joe <=-
spoke to Bj”rn Felten about Re: Trump has never told <=-
And those lies are only the ones told in public. Does not include e.g. lies told to IRS, investors and bankers about the value of his properties...
This is not true... Like everyone... Trump thought his properties wer valued at one level while others think they are valued at an other level. Just look at ANY real estate transaction... Seller
thinks their property is awesome and they want top dollar
whereas the buyer doesn't think so and they find some price
that they agree upon...
The problem with your statement is that Trump put a value on a property that was high when applying for a bank loan, and then a low value on the *same* property when reporting to the IRS.
2. If they wanted to wait to shoot it down over water, then why was
this Chinese Spy Balloon not shot down off the coast of Alaska which is also over water.
Simple reason: they did not know about it then. They only knew about it
once it had entered over populated areas.
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On 02-08-23 22:04, Gregory Deyss <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Balloons Aint Common <=-
That video (which I have now watched twice) does not say that it did happen. It says that he (and other cabinet officials) say they never heard about them. OTOH, the Pentagon says that balloons did enter US space during the Trump years. They are the experts.
That is all the proof that anyone should need.
That is proof of nothing WRT my question. Look again at my question above.
1. There was no spy balloon from any country (within the Trump era) that traveled in the U.S. as long or as far as this one did that was from last week.
The Pentagon reports I read about did not say how long or how far the balloons traveled. Nor did they say when they discovered the data that showed that balloons had entered USA territory.Do you honestly believe the U.S. has no method of detection at the or near
Simple reason: they did not know about it then. They only knew about it once it had entered over populated areas.You mean when it was noticed by the American People.
On 02-09-23 09:00, Ib Joe <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Trump has never told <=-
And those lies are only the ones told in public. Does not include
e.g. lies told to IRS, investors and bankers about the value of his properties...
This is not true... Like everyone... Trump
thought his properties wer
valued at one level while others think they are valued at an other
level. Just look at ANY real estate transaction... Seller
thinks their property is awesome and they want top dollar
whereas the buyer doesn't think so and they find some price
that they agree upon...
The problem with your statement is that Trump put a value on a property that was high when applying for a bank loan, and then a low value on the *same* property when reporting to the IRS.
That's not true... I do taxes and have for over 30 years...
If someone wanted to screw the IRS out of money one would
want to inflate the value of the properties with the IRS
because depreciation is a percentage of the value of the
property.... ie the higher the property the bigger the tax
break.
The NY state attorney investigating this dropped this a
while back, and did so publicly, because THEY found that
Trumps properties assessed less than current market
values... As it related to the IRS.
Now they are back at looking at the payment to a stripper
as part of campaign finance issue... Good luck with
that... Trump funded his one campaign and used his own
money...
On 02-09-23 16:55, Mike Powell <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Balloons Aint Common <=-
2. If they wanted to wait to shoot it down over water, then why was this Chinese Spy Balloon not shot down off the coast of Alaska which is also over water.
Simple reason: they did not know about it then. They only knew about it once it had entered over populated areas.
Except that contradicts other things the US government said when China tried to deny it, i.e. that the US had known about it since shortly
after it was launched from mainland China, which is how we knew it came from there.
US *citizens* knew about it after it crossed into sparsely populated Montana and they photographed it. The US Government didn't admit knowledge until it was over populated areas but, by their own
admission, they knew it was lauched from mainland China.
If citizens had not seen it, I am guessing the government would never
had said a word about it and probably wouldn't have gone to the trouble
of shooting it down after the fact.
On 02-09-23 21:02, Gregory Deyss <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Balloons Aint Common <=-
On 02-09-23 09:00, Ib Joe <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Trump has never told <=-
What you say is true when the property is still being owned. In that Trump may well want to inflate property values above their real value. Simiarly when listing a property value for applying for a bank loan.
But, when looking at property taxes from the state, etc., he would gain
by deflating the property value.
The real point is that Trump would place different valuations on his properties dependent on what he was doing.
Caveat Emptor <---
Which would not explain why the payment was done from his firm and from Cohen's personal account.
I think that Mike's post gives the best explanation of the whole series
of events.
1. These Chinese survey balloons had been going on for some time.
The government decided not to do any thing about them --
and classified their existence. (reason unclear).
2. They probably made a judgement call at some level that they were not really a threat.
then the government's hand was forced and that they had to make some public
statement,
which included waiting until over water and only then shooting it down.
On the whole, there are parallels to the U2 flights over the Soviet
Union.
The Soviets made no public news about them until they had the
ability to shoot a U2 down at their high altitude.
The only difference is that the ability to shoot down one of the balloon flights was already developed.
was2. If they wanted to wait to shoot it down over water, then why
which isthis Chinese Spy Balloon not shot down off the coast of Alaska
also over water.
Simple reason: they did not know about it then. They only knew aboutit
once it had entered over populated areas.
Except that contradicts other things the US government said whenChina
tried to deny it, i.e. that the US had known about it since shortlycame
after it was launched from mainland China, which is how we knew it
from there.
I had not heard that. Probably that fact was classified until their
hand was forced by citizens noticing it.
US *citizens* knew about it after it crossed into sparsely populated
Montana and they photographed it. The US Government didn't admit
knowledge until it was over populated areas but, by their own
admission, they knew it was lauched from mainland China.
If citizens had not seen it, I am guessing the government would nevertrouble
had said a word about it and probably wouldn't have gone to the
of shooting it down after the fact.
Given the veracity of your statement, I think you have the best explanation yet.
Trump funded his one campaign and used his own money...
The real point is that Trump would place different valuations on his properties dependent on what he was doing.
US *citizens* knew about it after it crossed into sparsely populated Montana and they photographed it. The US Government didn't admit knowledge until it was over populated areas but, by their own
admission, they knew it was lauched from mainland China.
If citizens had not seen it, I am guessing the government would never had said a word about it and probably wouldn't have gone to the trouble of shooting it down after the fact.
Given the veracity of your statement, I think you have the best
explanation yet.
On the whole, there are parallels to the U2 flights over the Soviet
Union. The Soviets made no public news about them until they had the
ability to shoot a U2 down at their high altitude.
On 02-10-23 09:02, Ib Joe <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Trump has never told <=-
Which would not explain why the payment was done from his firm and from Cohen's personal account.
Can you please site a law that was broken?? Please help me
understand. If there was a law that was broken they would
have used it a long time ago. NT state, the feds and the
IRS have been busting his balls for 7-8 years and have
found nothing to hang their hat on yet.
BTW, if you know the law he's broken tell the feds because
they've spent all this time looking and apparently they
should have just asked you.
On 02-10-23 17:57, Lee Lofaso <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Balloons Aint Common <=-
The government decided not to do any thing about them --
Donald Trump (president at the time) chose to do nothing about them.
and classified their existence. (reason unclear).
2. They probably made a judgement call at some level that they were not really a threat.
Unlike the orange clown who chose not to say a word about spy balloons flying over US airspace during his term in office,
Trump knew of at least three spy balloons flying over our airspace
and chose to do nothing, and swept it all under the rug so there would
be no news reports of his own incompetence.
The US military had the ability to shoot down all three spy balloons
that flew over US airspace during the Trump years. Why didn't Trump authorize them to be shot down? What was that reason again?
On 02-10-23 16:18, Mike Powell <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Balloons Aint Common <=-
If citizens had not seen it, I am guessing the government would never had said a word about it and probably wouldn't have gone to the trouble of shooting it down after the fact.
Given the veracity of your statement, I think you have the best
explanation yet.
Considering the possibility that it happened during a previous administration and the President was not told then, I half-wonder if
the public detecting it was also the reason the President was told
about it this time.
On 02-10-23 16:24, Mike Powell <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Balloons Aint Common <=-
On the whole, there are parallels to the U2 flights over the Soviet
Union. The Soviets made no public news about them until they had the ability to shoot a U2 down at their high altitude.
They made a big deal about it once they could shoot one down. :) I
wonder if they kept the SR-71 flights under similar cover, since they never were able to shoot one of those down. I am pretty sure the
Soviet military knew about those, and I know the North Koreans did.
They made a big deal about it once they could shoot one down. :) I wonder if they kept the SR-71 flights under similar cover, since they never were able to shoot one of those down. I am pretty sure the
Soviet military knew about those, and I know the North Koreans did.
The SR-71 could leave its base in central US, do a fly by mission over
Cuba and be halfway home before the Cubans could alert their
anti-aircraft stations. IMO, it is a shame that they decommissioned the SR-71.
Which would not explain why the payment was done from his firm and from
Cohen's personal account.
Can you please site a law that was broken?? Please help me
understand. If there was a law that was broken they would
have used it a long time ago. NT state, the feds and the
IRS have been busting his balls for 7-8 years and have
found nothing to hang their hat on yet.
The case being referenced has to do with payments to porn stars he had affairs with, in order to hush them prior to the 2016 elections. What
has been claimed is that such payments were campaign expenses but had
not been declared as such.
BTW, if you know the law he's broken tell the feds because
they've spent all this time looking and apparently they
should have just asked you.
All I know is what I have read or heard from public sources.
The feds know that and more.
The government decided not to do any thing about them --
Donald Trump (president at the time) chose to do nothing about them.
There has been no evidence that he even knew about them.
and classified their existence. (reason unclear).
2. They probably made a judgement call at some level that they were not
really a threat.
Unlike the orange clown who chose not to say a word about spy balloons
flying over US airspace during his term in office,
You are assuming that Trump was informed about them.
That may not be true.
Trump knew of at least three spy balloons flying over our airspace
and chose to do nothing, and swept it all under the rug so there would
be no news reports of his own incompetence.
You are assuming that Trump was informed about them.
That may not be true.
The US military had the ability to shoot down all three spy balloons
that flew over US airspace during the Trump years. Why didn't Trump
authorize them to be shot down? What was that reason again?
You are assuming that Trump was informed about them.
That may not be true.
On 02-11-23 22:35, Lee Lofaso <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Trump has never told <=-
David Duke was convicted of income tax evasion (a far worse offense
than what Edwards was convicted of) and sentenced to one year in the penitentiary.
But it is okay for Donald Trump to lie about his taxes? Why does
he get an exemption and not David Duke?
Trump funded his one campaign and used his own money...
That last candidate for president who accepted public financing
was true American patriot John McCain - in 2008.
The case being referenced has to do with payments to porn stars he had affairs with, in order to hush them prior to the 2016 elections. What
has been claimed is that such payments were campaign expenses but had
not been declared as such.
All I know is what I have read or heard from public sources. The feds know that and more.
Possibly because of the DOJ ruling not to charge a sitting President. Trump no longer has that protection, nor is he exempt from state
charges.
David Duke was convicted of income tax evasion (a far worse offense
than what Edwards was convicted of) and sentenced to one year in the
penitentiary.
But it is okay for Donald Trump to lie about his taxes? Why does
he get an exemption and not David Duke?
Possibly because of the DOJ ruling not to charge a sitting President.
Trump no longer has that protection, nor is he exempt from state
charges.
Trump funded his one campaign and used his own money...
That last candidate for president who accepted public financing
was true American patriot John McCain - in 2008.
McCain was a RINO who belonged to the uni-party.
There are people on the left and right who are trying to destroy the country...
BTW, I don't think McCain was self funded...
On 02-12-23 12:34, Gregory Deyss <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Trump has never told <=-
Possibly because of the DOJ ruling not to charge a sitting President. Trump no longer has that protection, nor is he exempt from state
charges.
You and lefty friends will never understand. You're going to believe whatever it is that swings left, and before you say that I would do the same w/ anything that swings right, consider this.
Conservatives have the greatest ability and the most
potential to be analytical
using logic and considering all of the facts,
we do not manufacture lies nor do
we ignore the serious issues of the day.
Take Immigration for example. The left tells us that all is well.
When it is far from being well.
Take Inflation for another example.
The left tells us that all is well. When it is far from being well.
Have you seen the prices in the supermarket?
Source: https://www.thecentersquare.com
Title: Biden touts falling food prices when they are actually rising Site: https://tinyurl.com/39d6s5d4
Cereals and bakery products prices saw no change in December but rose 16.1% in the last year.
Meats, poultry, fish, and eggs rose 1% in December and 7.7% in the
last year. Dairy and related products prices declined 0.3% in December
but rose 15.3% in the last year.
Fruits and vegetable prices declined 0.6% in December but rose 8.4% in
the last year.
Nonalcoholic beverages and beverage materials prices rose 0.1% in
December and 12.4% in the last year.
BLS "other food at home" category saw a 0.4% increase in December and
a 13.9% increase in the last year.
Take Immigration for example.
There has been little evidence of that here and elsewhere. In fact, for many conservatives they only believe what they heard on ultra-right entertainment channels (e.g. Fox news)Fox has been nearly perfect specially the Sean Hannity has broken through the lies many many times. Newsmax has been another one that has been great.
Yes, and that is only one part of inflation. I have seen gasoline
prices coming down. I don't shop at any supermarket enough to have reliable data.
Rose 16.1%Source: https://www.thecentersquare.com
Title: Biden touts falling food prices when they are actually rising Site: https://tinyurl.com/39d6s5d4
Cereals and bakery products prices saw no change in December but rose 16.1% in the last year.
Rose 15.3%Meats, poultry, fish, and eggs rose 1% in December and 7.7% in the last year. Dairy and related products prices declined 0.3% in Decembe but rose 15.3% in the last year.
Rose 8.4%Fruits and vegetable prices declined 0.6% in December but rose 8.4% i the last year.
Rose 13.9%Nonalcoholic beverages and beverage materials prices rose 0.1% in December and 12.4% in the last year.
BLS "other food at home" category saw a 0.4% increase in December and a 13.9% increase in the last year.
In other words, if your figures are reliable, inflation on grocerySadly no look at the last percentage at the end of each what I have supplied they are not only up but way up.
prices is coming down.
John McCain was the Republican nominee for President in 2008.
The last presidential candidate of either major party who accepted
public financing.
Every presidential candidate (Democrat and Republican) since
John McCain in 2008 was self funded -
* Barack Obama (2008, 2012)
* Mitt Romney (2012)
* Donald Trump (2016, 2020)
* Hillary Clinton (2016)
* Joe Biden (2020)
NYC does not want them, now they are busing these people to Upstate NY. Immigration has direct consequence to the downtrodden experiences of un-employment, lack of housing and social welfare.Take Immigration for example.
Why? How does that affect you? Do you really think that is the most important thing on the minds of the US people. Compared to inflation,
debt raising, unemployment, housing, drug and oil price gauging or
social welfare?
John McCain was the Republican nominee for President in 2008.
The last presidential candidate of either major party who accepted
public financing.
Then I have miss explained myself... When I said public financing I meant public in the sense that people donate to the election.
When people donate money to that cause there are lays that regulate how you
spend that money...
All this falls under the campaign finance laws.
As this may have related to Trump....
Trump's 2016 campaign was mostly self-funded, he asked the public not to give him money...
He had a side chick named Stormy Daniels...whom he paid her ~$180K to shut her mouth...
She chose not to and was used by Trump's political rivals...
and was discarded like trash when it didn't work.
Because Stormy broke the original deal that got her the $180K she owes Trump
$300K in damages.
Now Stormy is giving BJ's in back allies just to get something warm in her stomach.... Democrats use and discard people at will to get whatever power
is needed to advance their agenda
Every presidential candidate (Democrat and Republican) since
John McCain in 2008 was self funded -
* Barack Obama (2008, 2012)
* Mitt Romney (2012)
* Donald Trump (2016, 2020)
* Hillary Clinton (2016)
* Joe Biden (2020)
All the people mentioned above did not self fund, all were funded by donations.
Barry Obama was only worth a couple 100,000 when he ran back in 2007/8
Barack Obama net worth 2004 $300,002
Barack Obama net worth 2005 $1,800,004
Barack Obama net worth 2006 $799,006
Barack Obama net worth 2007 $4,689,008
Barack Obama net worth 2008 $3,665,505
Barry didn't have enough personal money to self fund so he took public donations.
To my knowledge Trump, in 2016, was the only self-funded presidential campaign in my lifetime anyway...
John Kerry lent his campaign $6,000,000 to start it and paid himself back once people had donated enough money for him to do so.
On 02-13-23 07:01, Gregory Deyss <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Trump has never told <=-
Yes, and that is only one part of inflation. I have seen gasoline
prices coming down. I don't shop at any supermarket enough to have reliable data.
Gasoline is still higher, then what it was pre-Biden.
Surely you eat don't you, so where do you go for groceries.
It almost sounds like you want to pretend that these high food prices aren't happening.
Cereals and bakery products prices saw no change
in December but rose
16.1% in the last year.
Rose 16.1%
Meats, poultry, fish, and eggs rose 1% in December and 7.7% in the
last year. Dairy and related products prices
declined 0.3% in Decembe
but rose 15.3% in the last year.
Rose 15.3%
Fruits and vegetable prices declined 0.6% in
December but rose 8.4% i
the last year.
Rose 8.4%
Nonalcoholic beverages and beverage materials prices rose 0.1% in
December and 12.4% in the last year.
BLS "other food at home" category saw a 0.4%
increase in December and
a 13.9% increase in the last year.
Rose 13.9%
In other words, if your figures are reliable, inflation on grocery
prices is coming down.
Nice try they are even higher right now since December of 2022It almost sounds like you want to pretend that these high food prices aren't happening.
I don't pretend any such thing. My statement was that I do not shop enough to have reliable personal data.
Cereals and bakery products prices saw no change
in December but rose
16.1% in the last year.
Rose 16.1%
Rose earlier but recent month has no change.
Nice try they are even higher right now since December of 2022Meats, poultry, fish, and eggs rose 1% in December and 7.7% in the last year. Dairy and related products prices
declined 0.3% in Decembe
but rose 15.3% in the last year.
Rose 15.3%
Rose earlier but recent month has no change.
Nice try they are even higher right now since December of 2022Fruits and vegetable prices declined 0.6% in
December but rose 8.4% i
the last year.
Rose 8.4%
Rose earlier but recent month has no change.
Nice try they are even higher right now since December of 2022Nonalcoholic beverages and beverage materials prices rose 0.1% in December and 12.4% in the last year.
BLS "other food at home" category saw a 0.4%
increase in December and
a 13.9% increase in the last year.
Rose 13.9%
Rose earlier but recent month has no change.
No they are not coming down, at all.
In other words, if your figures are reliable, inflation on grocery prices is coming down.
I was not quoting anything positive with inflation coming because it is not, that is a fantasy. To suggest that it is disingenuous or out of touch.
Why is it that you quote a positive move on inflation coming down, but focus on how bad it used to be?
Why is it that you quote a positive move on inflation coming down, but
focus on how bad it used to be?
pricesIt almost sounds like you want to pretend that these high food
aren't happening.
I don't pretend any such thing. My statement was that I do not shop
enough to have reliable personal data.
Cereals and bakery products prices saw no change
in December but rose
16.1% in the last year.
Rose 16.1%
Rose earlier but recent month has no change.
Nice try they are even higher right now since December of 2022
Just look for yourself, you will find out.
You want to twist this or pretend this is not happening, but it is.
theMeats, poultry, fish, and eggs rose 1% in December and 7.7% in
last year. Dairy and related products prices
declined 0.3% in Decembe
but rose 15.3% in the last year.
Rose 15.3%
Rose earlier but recent month has no change.
Nice try they are even higher right now since December of 2022
Just look for yourself, you will find out.
You want to twist this or pretend this is not happening, but it is.
Fruits and vegetable prices declined 0.6% in
December but rose 8.4% i
the last year.
Rose 8.4%
Rose earlier but recent month has no change.
Nice try they are even higher right now since December of 2022
Just look for yourself, you will find out.
You want to twist this or pretend this is not happening, but it is.
inNonalcoholic beverages and beverage materials prices rose 0.1%
December and 12.4% in the last year.
BLS "other food at home" category saw a 0.4%
increase in December and
a 13.9% increase in the last year.
Rose 13.9%
Rose earlier but recent month has no change.
Nice try they are even higher right now since December of 2022
Just look for yourself, you will find out.
You want to twist this or pretend this is not happening, but it is.
groceryIn other words, if your figures are reliable, inflation on
prices is coming down.
No they are not coming down, at all.
You are either out of touch, or your meals are supplied for you. Like you said ie: restaurants or via the community.
Why is it that you quote a positive move on inflation coming down,but
focus on how bad it used to be?
I was not quoting anything positive with inflation coming because it is not,
that is a fantasy. To suggest that it is disingenuous or out of touch.
On 02-14-23 07:05, Gregory Deyss <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Trump has never told <=-
Why is it that you quote a positive move on inflation coming down, but focus on how bad it used to be?
I was not quoting anything positive with inflation coming because it
is not, that is a fantasy. To suggest that it is disingenuous or out of touch.
On 02-14-23 17:19, Mike Powell <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Inflation (was: Trump has <=-
Why is it that you quote a positive move on inflation coming down, but
focus on how bad it used to be?
I think it is the difference between the percentage growth, or
decrease, in inflation vs. the price of things.
You can say that inflation is slowing, which means the price is still going up but not as fast, or decreasing, which means it is no longer
going up BUT also means that prices are not necessarily back down to
where they were when the inflation period started.
Mike Powell wrote to DALE SHIPP <=-
-- The economist they interviewed stated that, while it has slowed,
none of this slowing has anything to do with government attempts to
slow it down. He said that the results of those attempts have yet to
show anything, good or bad.
-- The economist they interviewed stated that, while it has slowed,
none of this slowing has anything to do with government attempts to
slow it down. He said that the results of those attempts have yet to
show anything, good or bad.
The Ignorant Elitists seem to think that people are complete morons. So if food goes up in price, for example, they seem to think that people will buy just as much food and other products.
Economics 101 shows that when prices go up, people buy less.
Getting more complicated, in a market where necessities go up for a while, people put off buying large, long term purchases (like cars and houses). But
like I said, the Ignorant Elitists can't understand this simple idea -
or they just like to believe that people are no different than sheep.
I think it is the difference between the percentage growth, or
decrease, in inflation vs. the price of things.
You can say that inflation is slowing, which means the price is still going up but not as fast, or decreasing, which means it is no longer going up BUT also means that prices are not necessarily back down to where they were when the inflation period started.
By George, I think you've got it. As I said to Gregory, I was making no independent statement about inflation other than to point out the
meaning of what he quoted.
On 02-15-23 16:42, Mike Powell <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Inflation (was: Trum <=-
By George, I think you've got it. As I said to Gregory, I was making no independent statement about inflation other than to point out the
meaning of what he quoted.
I have a BSBA so I should hope I understand it, even when it is
difficult to convince my wallet of such. :)
On 02-15-23 22:05, Lee Lofaso <=-
spoke to Ron L. about Inflation (was: Trump has <=-
think that people will
buy just as much food and other products.
People buy as much food as they can, as everybody has to eat.
Economics 101 shows that when prices go up, people buy less.
Getting more complicated, in a market where
necessities go up for a while,
people put off buying large, long term purchases (like cars and houses).
I was not quoting anything positive with inflation coming because it is not, that is a fantasy. To suggest that it is disingenuous or out touch.
If you carefully read what you posted, you will see that it was you that said that inflation was not as much as it had been. To suggest
otherwise is to hide behind your perception that inflation is still on
the rise and to not accept the data that you have provided.
Gregory Deyss wrote to Dale Shipp <=-
with provided meals. What you are doing, as I see it, your trying to
twist or taking out of context what I have said.
The real truth is you only read partially what I said but did not acknowledge w/ a deliberate intention, so it would seem.
think that people will
buy just as much food and other products.
People buy as much food as they can, as everybody has to eat.
When prices go up, people shift their buying. For example, more pasta
and less steak.
Economics 101 shows that when prices go up, people buy less.
Mostly true -- if they have a choice.
When the price of utilities goes up, there is not much they can do.
When they have to commute 20 miles a day, they still have to buy the same amount of gas -- and thus have less money for other things.
Getting more complicated, in a market where necessities go up RL>for awhile, people put off buying large, long term purchases (like RL>cars and houses).
True.
By George, I think you've got it. As I said to Gregory, I was making no independent statement about inflation other than to point out the
meaning of what he quoted.
I have a BSBA so I should hope I understand it, even when it is difficult to convince my wallet of such. :)
BS = Bachelor of Science, BA = Bachelor of Arts -- but I've not seen
them together like that. Double major?
On 02-16-23 16:13, Mike Powell <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Inflation (was: Trum <=-
I have a BSBA so I should hope I understand it, even when it is difficult to convince my wallet of such. :)
BS = Bachelor of Science, BA = Bachelor of Arts -- but I've not seen
them together like that. Double major?
Bachelor of Science in Business Administration. Maybe I am using it wrong. :)
Mike Powell wrote to DALE SHIPP <=-
I have a BSBA so I should hope I understand it, even when it is difficult to convince my wallet of such. :)
BS = Bachelor of Science, BA = Bachelor of Arts -- but I've not seen
them together like that. Double major?
Bachelor of Science in Business Administration. Maybe I am using it wrong. :)
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